[FairfieldLife] Maharishi and the Beatles

2009-07-24 Thread nablusoss1008
http://tinyurl.com/m5lhem




[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh Yogi BBC 1967

2009-07-24 Thread nablusoss1008
http://tinyurl.com/kkwfug




[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Guru Dev, part II

2009-07-24 Thread pranamoocher
Very nice- thanks for posting that.
Recall it clearly from TTC- Always a beautiful talk to hear again from
MMY.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@...
wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/nfadau




[FairfieldLife] Maharishi, unique film, Rishikesh, India, 1968

2009-07-24 Thread nablusoss1008
http://tinyurl.com/ndow27



[FairfieldLife] The Beatles in India 1968 (part 2)

2009-07-24 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbDR8IpkkTUfeature=related



[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: CSA

2009-07-24 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote:
   
 From MVCCSA.com superb, fresh Maharishi Vedic Organic Agriculture 
produce, the best I've ever had!  Good variety.  Fifteen weeks worth 
of full boxes $30/week, half boxes $15, paid up front.  Weekly 
pickups on Thursdays.  The full boxes have been a wonderful value I 
share with two friends, so my cost is $10/week!
Dick
   
   This is in Fairfield ?
  



  Yep, sure is. 
 
 Ok, technically, no it's not in Fairfield (or in Vedic City, for that 
 matter.) It's six miles north of Fairfield in unincorporated Jefferson County.
 
 Here's a link to a satellite view that shows the two greenhouses. My 
 recollection is that the Vedic City greenhouse is the long skinny one on the 
 left.
 
 http://is.gd/1JpvU [maps.yahoo.com]


***

Kinda close to hog heaven, no?




[FairfieldLife] Do Angels Exist?

2009-07-24 Thread John
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ18J5fmgX8feature=related



[FairfieldLife] Re: The life of a Saint; Maharishi on Guru Dev

2009-07-24 Thread John
Nabs,

Nice post.  Thanks, and keep up the good work.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/nh5pp6





[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Seelisberg

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:

 The mid 70's when all the weirdness was beginning to flower. 

Wouldn't it be fascinating if the locals always
believed that these hotels were haunted, and that
anyone who stayed in them would become possessed?  

Basis for a good movie, that. Entire spiritual
movement becomes possessed and obsessed with money
as a result of staying in the wrong hotels.  :-)

Which reminds me...Shemp, when we were on our Sidhis
course, did you ever meet the guy who came around
taking photos of the place? He was a location scout
for Stanley Kubrick, looking for a hotel in which to
film the then-in-development The Shining. They fin-
ally settled on the hotel in Colorado, of course, but
wouldn't it have been appropriate if they'd picked
our hotel in St. Moritz?  :-)


 --- On Thu, 7/23/09, michael vedamer...@... wrote:
 
 From: michael vedamer...@...
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's Seelisberg [4 Attachments]
 To: 
 Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 7:07 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 [Attachment(s) from michael included below]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 .
 
 
 
 Scroll down for English version!
 
 
 
 
 
 Hallo liebe Leute!
 
 Anbei sende ich Euch eine Initiative von Kurt Matti, einem befreundeten 
 TM-Lehrer. Er bittet darum, dass ein jeder von Euch, der diesen Aufruf 
 erhält, diesen bitte an so viele interessierte Menschen weiterleiten möge wie 
 möglich. Es geht um das Maharishi-Capital in Seelisberg, wo MMY 12 Jahre lang 
 gelebt hat. (Wie Ihr wisst, ist geplant, Seelisberg zu veräussern.)
 
 Zu seinem Text möchte ich folgendes ergänzen:
 
 In den letzten Jahren (ich weiss nicht mehr, ob es anlässlich einer 
 Mittwochs-Pressekonferenz war), wurde Maharishi mal gefragt, wie das für ihn 
 gewesen sei, dass er Seelisberg verlassen hätte. Wie genau die Frage 
 formuliert wurde, weiss ich nicht mehr, aber an die prägnante Antwort 
 erinnere ich mich sehr genau; er
  sagte:
 
 I never left Seelisberg! =
 
 Ich habe Seelisberg nie verlassen!
 
 -  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 
 
 Daran müssen wir uns erinnern, wenn wir diesen Aufruf hier lesen.
 
 Jai Guru Dev
 
 Irma
 
 
 
 
 
 Kurt Matti schreibt:
 
 
 
 
 
 Erfolg für Maharishis Seelisberg
 
 1000 Unterschriften bis 1.Aug.09
 
 
 
 Bitte treten Sie dem 1000-er Komitee bei, das folgende Ziele verfolgt:
 
 § Erhaltung der Seelisberger Maharishi-Hotels Sonnenberg und Kulm
 
 § Renovation und Ausbau der Anlagen: Parking, Kulm-Osteingang etc
 
 § Kaufmännische Nutzung der Hotels und Anlagen
     - zB durch eine Vedische Alters Residenz
     - zB Ausbau des Angebots der MAV Klinik
     - zB durch
  professionelle MERU-Aktivitäten: Artikel in Fachpresse,
 Kongresse,
     - zB durch ayurvedische Top-Restauration:  Busreisen, Hochzeiten,
 etc.
     - zB Untervermietungen, Co-operationen (mit
 Versicherungs-Gesellschaft?)
 
 § Gewinnanteile für Brahmastan Indien, und dergleichen
 
 § Beschaffung von Kapital zur Verwirklichung dieser realistischen Ziele
 
 Ich weiss, dass wir etwas bewirken können!  Denken Sie das auch?
 Bitte kopieren/senden Sie dieses mail an Gleichgesinnte Ihrer
 Adressliste
 (Bandwurm-mails vermeiden! ) und benützen Sie diese Umfrage:
 
 http://www.doodle.com/h463cbd86fizebfv
 
 Herzliche Grüsse aus Luzern
 Kurt Matti
 
 Jai Guru Dev
 **
 
 
 In English:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Success for Maharishi's
  Seelisberg
 1000 signatures until  Aug. 1. 2009
 
 ---
 
 Please join the comitee 1000 to reach the following goals:
 
 § Preserve the Maharishi-hotels Sonnenberg and Kulm in Seelisberg
 
 § Restore and extend the properties: add parking, east-entrance to
 Kulm, ect.
 
 § commercial use of the hotels and grounds
     - with a Vedic Senior Residence
     - with extention of services of the MAV-clinic
     - with professional  MERU-activities: articles in science media,
 conferences
     - with ayurvedic top-restauration; bus groupes, weddings etc.
     - with sub leasing, co-operations (with health insurance?)
 
 § profit shares to support Brahmastan, India and similar
 
 § generate funds to realise these realistic goals
 
 I know that we can effect the decisions!  Yes we can!  Do you
  think
 the same?
 Please copy/send this mail to many like minded friends, today  (avoid
 snake-mails)
 And sign the list at:  http://www.doodle.com/h463cbd86fizebfv
 
 cordial greetings from Switzerland
 Kurt Matti
 
 Jai Guru Dev
 **
 
 
 
 Kurt Matti
 Kapuzinerweg 9
 6006 Luzern, Switzerland
 tel: +41 41 420 67 01
 fx:  +41 41 420 67 30
 panor...@...
 
 
 
 
 http://www.doodle.com/h463cbd86fizebfv
 
 
 
 
 Bilder:    

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   Have you had an opportunity to listen to Bevanji's lecture 
   on this topic Nabby?
 
 Bevan is no Bevanji to me but a Gurubai. He's a sincere 
 disciple in a league and on a level you obviously know 
 anything about. 

Especially during those special evenings when 
devotees such as Nabby got to rub the Gurubai's
enormous body with sesame oil and roll around
with him in the Inner Sanctum Of Specialness.
You can tell from the fervor in his voice that
Nabby misses those evenings a great deal.

Isn't it fascinating how Germans tend to gravi-
tate towards and glorify man love, as long as
it's called something else? The SS officers used
to do exactly the same thing back in Hitler's day.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Perception vs. Reality

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
That was a great impression of an offended fem-
inist, Raunchy. Really.

And I really liked your invention of the phrase
poking the badger as a synonym for mastur-
bating using a vibrator...that's very colorful, and
helps us to envisage what's really happening on
your end when you write these messages.

Could you do me a favor and do a similar impres-
sion of an offended toaster or an offended amoeba
next, to put my thesis to the test and see whether
you really are as laughable doing that as you are
pretending to be a feminist?

It's all in the interest of science.

BTW, here's a graphic I thought you'd like,
you being a fan of Woo Woo and ritam and all
that TM-believing-in-having-your-wishes-
fulfilled stuff. It clearly shows the down
side *for the goddess* of being prayed to by
humans...you never know what might happen:

  [http://seemikedraw.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/fairy-god-mother-c.gif]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
  wrote:
  
   Sexist men are like badgers. Poke them with a stick labeled
   sexist and watch what happens.
 
  I don't particularly think much of FFL poster Y, because
  she is consistently stupid, devoid of original thought, mono-
  topical to the extreme, not particularly attractive in a
  physical sense, abusive, elitist, ill-informed, and generally
  an affront to the entire concept of 'humanness' as I under-
  stand it, much less the concept of spiritual.
 
  Only one letter different. But did you somehow think that I
  might have been describing Raunchydog and Judy Stein? And if
  I had been, did you think misognyny (hatred of women)?
 
  If so, they have you wrapped.
 
  There was only one letter different. They would have you
  believe that that letter makes all the difference, and that
  someone saying what one thinks of a person *as a person* is
  somehow all about them being a woman.
 
  The two women in question would be equally despicable and
  unlikeable if they were men, or toasters, or amoebas. Don't
  lose sight of that...
 

 Well, how about that? Poking the badger with a stick really works. It
got Barry's attention, now he's REALLY pissed. The more Judy and
Raunchydog call him out on sexism, the more he escalates his sexist
vitriol.

 Today Barry launched a lying ad hominem fest against Judy and
Raunchydog. Bring it on Barry, you should have learned by now you're
only setting yourself up for another smack down:

 despicable:
 [Of course not, no one despises me except Barry]

 unlikeable:
 [A lot of people like me, even LOVE me, everyone except Barry]

 stupid:
 [Not stupid, definitely not stupid]

 devoid of original thought:
 [Ha! I write poetry almost as good as Bruce Cockburn's Bone in my
Ear Geez!]

 mono-topical to the extreme:
 [inadvertent irony, Barry has ranted against the TMO almost everyday
for 15 plus years]

 not particularly attractive [physically]:
 [a criticism usually reserved for women, not men, which blows Barry's
x/y comparison to bits]

 abusive:
 [take a shower after reading Barry, he says he's an asshole. I agree.]

 elitist:
 [See below]

 ill-informed:
 [Barry knows about movies but not much about politics]

 generally an affront to the entire concept of 'humanness' as I under-
 stand it, much less the concept of spiritual.:
 [Geez, now isn't that an over the top ad hominem attack? An excellent
example of Barry's elitism]

 Here's the bottom line about why Barry has gone off the rails ad
hominem attack mode:

 Judy wrote:

 See, the interesting thing is, I've never considered Barry my
enemy. That's *his* term. He thinks of me as *his* enemy...
 ...any strong woman whose views don't agree with his and who is
willing to confront him...scare the *daylights* out of him. It isn't
that we're scary; it's that Barry is terrified of women who stand up to
him.

 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/225337

 Barry has yet to deny this statement. Unless we hear from him
otherwise, let's assume Judy's assessment about his strong women hang up
is true. He would love us to shut up about sexism...it ain't
happening...poking the Badger is fun AND necessary.





[FairfieldLife] Poking The Badger -- a manual for beginners

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
For those interested in learning the technique that
Raunchydog has referred to recently -- Poking The
Badger -- I pass along the following. It is a list
of instructions gleaned from the vedic literature,
in particular the GottaGetoff Sutra. 

Be warned, because it is said right in that sutra 
that this practice and other related practices of 
TM (Toxic Masturbation) are very powerful, and can 
possibly lead the spiritual aspirant astray, into 
the realms of madness and obsession. Practiced 
properly, however, Poking The Badger and other 
forms of Toxic Masturbation can result in the 
achievement the state of CC (Cosmic Cuntitude) 
within a short five to eight year period.

1. First prepare your environment. On your puja 
table place your laptop (connected to the Internet,
of course) and your TM Helper device. (Make sure 
that the Toxic Masturbation Helper's batteries 
are fully charged, or your Poking The Badger exper-
ience may not be as satisfying as it should be.)

2. Log in to your favorite location for practicing
Toxic Masturbation in public, such as a spiritual
chat forum or a political forum on which some 
posters have failed to bow down properly to you
or to Saint Hillary.

3. Fire up your TM Helper. That 'BZZ' sound you
hear is the sound of the Cosmic OM, allowing you
to find a resonance with Cosmic Goddessitudeness.
Apply the TM Helper as directed on the label.

4. Next, pick a victim for your Poking The Badger
session. It need not be a spit man; it could 
just as easily be a woman who has failed to bow
down to you in the past. The only essential thing
is that the victim has to have written you off
as a bad bet and have a track record of NEVER 
responding to any of your brilliant arguments as
if they were really brilliant, or worth dealing
with at all. This is important, because if you pick 
someone who actually treats you as if *anything* 
you could ever say could possibly be worth arguing 
about, steps 5 through 7 below won't work properly.

5. With your TM Helper switched on and firmly in
place, write a stinging post calling the victim
on his or her sexism and Send it off. In the post,
be sure to include another fantasy argument that
means nothing to anyone in the world except your-
self, that the victim is supposed to respond to
or refute in some way.

6. Sit back and wait for the victim to fail to
respond. This may take the form of ignoring you
completely, of laughing at you, or of pointing
out that the thing he or she is supposed to 
respond to is ridiculous and not worth wasting 
time on, or that YOU are ridiculous and not worth 
wasting time on. In the study of Toxic Masturbation,
this is what we call foreplay.

7. When the victim has thus set him- or herself
up for what we call nailing, deliver the pièce
de résistance and nail them. Turn your TM
Helper up a couple of notches and type: HA! 
Gotcha! You failed to respond to my brilliant
made-up argument. I win!!! You have *proved* 
yourself to be sexist! and press Send.

8. At this point, for most Toxic Masturbation prac-
titioners the objective of Poking The Badger is 
achieved and they can sit back and share a ciga-
rette with their TM Helper. But if it doesn't work 
the first time, just repeat step #7 several more 
times, saying the same thing over and over until 
you reach the state of cumadhi.

9. Practice as necessary until you attain CC.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary called a funny lady by NKoreans

2009-07-24 Thread Vaj


On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:57 AM, raunchydog wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote:

 BillyG wrote:
  ...can you imagine her as President?
 
 Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,
 refers to the belief or attitude that one gender
 or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less
 valuable than the other...

 Sexism:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism


Sexism Willy Tex? Ya think? The guys dissing Hillary in this thread  
are the usual suspects, of course. Does it occur to any of them  
that Hillary's statement is correct and North Korean is wrong?


Here's what sparked North Korea's rather churlishly personal attack:

Hillary: What we've seen is this constant demand for attention,and  
maybe it's the mother in me or the experience that I've had with  
small children and unruly teenagers and people who are demanding  
attention — don't give it to them, they don't deserve it, they are  
acting out.


In fact Hillary is right on. There is a look at me, look at me  
quality to all things North Korea. They launched a test missile on  
July 4th! Geez! And they are making nukes! Geez! You want to side  
with these guys? Geez!



And it's old news for this weird regime. They've been playing the  
'look at me!, look at me!' game for years. Hillary nailed it and did  
so very appropriately, like a mature human being observing leaders  
who act like children. The Koreans response was hilarious, but not  
surprising given their usual immature game-playing.


It sounds to me like Hill also did a fantastic job in India and is  
proving herself to be a first rate statesman. It seems as if 'the  
world likes our Hillary'. I personally think we should all be very  
proud of the work she's doing, she's certainly part of the improving  
image of the US in the world. Obama couldn't have chosen a better  
person.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: CSA

2009-07-24 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote:

  From MVCCSA.com superb, fresh Maharishi Vedic Organic Agriculture 
 produce, the best I've ever had!  Good variety.  Fifteen weeks worth 
 of full boxes $30/week, half boxes $15, paid up front.  Weekly 
 pickups on Thursdays.  The full boxes have been a wonderful value I 
 share with two friends, so my cost is $10/week!
 Dick

This is in Fairfield ?
   
 
 
 
   Yep, sure is. 
  
  Ok, technically, no it's not in Fairfield (or in Vedic City, for that 
  matter.) It's six miles north of Fairfield in unincorporated Jefferson 
  County.
  
  Here's a link to a satellite view that shows the two greenhouses. My 
  recollection is that the Vedic City greenhouse is the long skinny one on 
  the left.
  
  http://is.gd/1JpvU [maps.yahoo.com]
 
 
 ***
 
 Kinda close to hog heaven, no?

Hog heaven? I have only a vague recollection of a hog heaven sign somewhere 
north of FF on Highway 1. If there's a large-scale hog operation in this area, 
we're certainly not smelling it down here on 155th street, directly south of 
the greenhouses.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Quantum Theory of Reality

2009-07-24 Thread Peter

This is what is known as pseudo science. It is filled with explanatory concepts 
that have no empirical grounding and for the most part not open to any 
empirical validation. Its how people not familiar with science think. It very 
similar to medieval philosophy filled with homunculi and God's love. Silly 
stuff primarily because the explanatory models are never open for empirical 
validation. Any physicist working in quantum mechanics recognizes that no 
matter how unusual sounding their model, it ultimately needs to be open to 
empirical validation.  

--- On Thu, 7/23/09, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Quantum Theory of Reality
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 5:03 PM
 To All:
 
 After attempting to understanding the current scientific
 ideas relating to the quantum world, it appears that MMY's
 ideas about the basis of consciousness are just as valid and
 could be used as the standard model to describe the
 behaviour of the quantum phenomena.
 
 MMY has stated that the potential of consciousness can be
 understood in his triune relationship of the
 Rishi--Devata--Chandas.  Rishi is the observer, Devata
 is the process of observing, and Chandas is the
 observed.  In other words, the potential of
 consciousness is a dynamic whole until it manifests into
 reality, or Chandas.
 
 Similarly, physicists have observed that the atom contains
 all of the potential of what it will do in the real
 world.  It can go forward and backward in time. 
 It can also be in the local area of existence or be outside
 it, meaning that the atom can operate anywhere in the
 universe.
 
 In other words, it is through the atom and its particle
 components that the manifestations of consciousness
 occur.  From scientific tests, physicists have found
 that the behaviour of the atom and particles in it are
 affected or influenced when it is observed or
 measured.  In common parlance, it would mean that our
 thoughts influence the behaviour of the atom. 
 Consequently, it affects our physical existence.
 
 In other words the atom is the ultimate nano-bot. 
 It is a machine that carries out its function relying on the
 commands of consciousness.  So, the old WYSZWYG acronym
 applies, what you see is what you get.  As such, if
 one maintains a garbage thought, he or she gets garbage
 out.  Conversely, a pleasant thought can automatically
 benefit our physical reality, such as our own physical
 body.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 To subscribe, send a message to:
 fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
 
 Or go to: 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
 and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Perception vs. Reality

2009-07-24 Thread raunchydog
Barry hates being laughed at. Now he's REALLY, REALLY mad. I'm not offended by 
his sexism, I think it's funny that the harder I poke him (fuck him over) with 
a stick labeled sexist, the madder he gets and the more he obliges by showing 
us how sexist he is. Barry likes to push buttons, he says so. I don't like to 
push buttons, but Barry's sexist button is so pushable, I just can't help 
myself. 

Like Judy said, See, the interesting thing is, I've never considered Barry my 
enemy. That's *his* term. He thinks of me as *his* enemy...any strong woman 
whose views don't agree with his and who is willing to confront him...scare the 
*daylights* out of him. It isn't that we're scary; it's that Barry is terrified 
of women who stand up to him. 

Amen, sister.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 That was a great impression of an offended fem-
 inist, Raunchy. Really.
 
 And I really liked your invention of the phrase
 poking the badger as a synonym for mastur-
 bating using a vibrator...that's very colorful, and
 helps us to envisage what's really happening on
 your end when you write these messages.
 
 Could you do me a favor and do a similar impres-
 sion of an offended toaster or an offended amoeba
 next, to put my thesis to the test and see whether
 you really are as laughable doing that as you are
 pretending to be a feminist?
 
 It's all in the interest of science.
 
 BTW, here's a graphic I thought you'd like,
 you being a fan of Woo Woo and ritam and all
 that TM-believing-in-having-your-wishes-
 fulfilled stuff. It clearly shows the down
 side *for the goddess* of being prayed to by
 humans...you never know what might happen:
 
   [http://seemikedraw.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/fairy-god-mother-c.gif]
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
   wrote:
   
Sexist men are like badgers. Poke them with a stick labeled
sexist and watch what happens.
  
   I don't particularly think much of FFL poster Y, because
   she is consistently stupid, devoid of original thought, mono-
   topical to the extreme, not particularly attractive in a
   physical sense, abusive, elitist, ill-informed, and generally
   an affront to the entire concept of 'humanness' as I under-
   stand it, much less the concept of spiritual.
  
   Only one letter different. But did you somehow think that I
   might have been describing Raunchydog and Judy Stein? And if
   I had been, did you think misognyny (hatred of women)?
  
   If so, they have you wrapped.
  
   There was only one letter different. They would have you
   believe that that letter makes all the difference, and that
   someone saying what one thinks of a person *as a person* is
   somehow all about them being a woman.
  
   The two women in question would be equally despicable and
   unlikeable if they were men, or toasters, or amoebas. Don't
   lose sight of that...
  
 
  Well, how about that? Poking the badger with a stick really works. It
 got Barry's attention, now he's REALLY pissed. The more Judy and
 Raunchydog call him out on sexism, the more he escalates his sexist
 vitriol.
 
  Today Barry launched a lying ad hominem fest against Judy and
 Raunchydog. Bring it on Barry, you should have learned by now you're
 only setting yourself up for another smack down:
 
  despicable:
  [Of course not, no one despises me except Barry]
 
  unlikeable:
  [A lot of people like me, even LOVE me, everyone except Barry]
 
  stupid:
  [Not stupid, definitely not stupid]
 
  devoid of original thought:
  [Ha! I write poetry almost as good as Bruce Cockburn's Bone in my
 Ear Geez!]
 
  mono-topical to the extreme:
  [inadvertent irony, Barry has ranted against the TMO almost everyday
 for 15 plus years]
 
  not particularly attractive [physically]:
  [a criticism usually reserved for women, not men, which blows Barry's
 x/y comparison to bits]
 
  abusive:
  [take a shower after reading Barry, he says he's an asshole. I agree.]
 
  elitist:
  [See below]
 
  ill-informed:
  [Barry knows about movies but not much about politics]
 
  generally an affront to the entire concept of 'humanness' as I under-
  stand it, much less the concept of spiritual.:
  [Geez, now isn't that an over the top ad hominem attack? An excellent
 example of Barry's elitism]
 
  Here's the bottom line about why Barry has gone off the rails ad
 hominem attack mode:
 
  Judy wrote:
 
  See, the interesting thing is, I've never considered Barry my
 enemy. That's *his* term. He thinks of me as *his* enemy...
  ...any strong woman whose views don't agree with his and who is
 willing to confront him...scare the *daylights* out of him. It isn't
 that we're scary; it's that Barry is terrified of women who stand up to
 him.
 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/225337
 
  Barry has yet to 

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc

2009-07-24 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 Isn't it fascinating how Germans tend to gravi-
 tate towards and glorify man love, as long as
 it's called something else? The SS officers used
 to do exactly the same thing back in Hitler's day.


The Turq accuses me of being gay and the Vaj says I could use sarin and become 
a massmurderer.

What does that tell you about the two socalled Buddhists on FFL and their 
Guru, the Dolly Lama ?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary called a funny lady by NKoreans

2009-07-24 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:57 AM, raunchydog wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_reply@ wrote:
  
   BillyG wrote:
...can you imagine her as President?
   
   Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,
   refers to the belief or attitude that one gender
   or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less
   valuable than the other...
  
   Sexism:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
  
 
  Sexism Willy Tex? Ya think? The guys dissing Hillary in this thread  
  are the usual suspects, of course. Does it occur to any of them  
  that Hillary's statement is correct and North Korean is wrong?
 
  Here's what sparked North Korea's rather churlishly personal attack:
 
  Hillary: What we've seen is this constant demand for attention,and  
  maybe it's the mother in me or the experience that I've had with  
  small children and unruly teenagers and people who are demanding  
  attention — don't give it to them, they don't deserve it, they are  
  acting out.
 
  In fact Hillary is right on. There is a look at me, look at me  
  quality to all things North Korea. They launched a test missile on  
  July 4th! Geez! And they are making nukes! Geez! You want to side  
  with these guys? Geez!
 
 
 And it's old news for this weird regime. They've been playing the  
 'look at me!, look at me!' game for years. Hillary nailed it and did  
 so very appropriately, like a mature human being observing leaders  
 who act like children. The Koreans response was hilarious, but not  
 surprising given their usual immature game-playing.
 
 It sounds to me like Hill also did a fantastic job in India and is  
 proving herself to be a first rate statesman. It seems as if 'the  
 world likes our Hillary'. I personally think we should all be very  
 proud of the work she's doing, she's certainly part of the improving  
 image of the US in the world. Obama couldn't have chosen a better  
 person.


Wow! What a surprise. Thanks, Vaj for giving credit where credit is due. I 
agree. Hillary is doing a great job as SOS. However, why do you think the North 
Korean's response was hilarious? It wasn't just immature, it pulled out all 
the trite sexist slurs usually reserved for women.  If they had insulted Obama 
using racial slurs, would you think it hilarious?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Poking The Badger -- a manual for beginners

2009-07-24 Thread raunchydog
Now Barry is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY mad. He's so mad he just blew a gasket and 
the circuitry on his computer trying to screw himself...again. The lady doth 
protest too much, methinks. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 For those interested in learning the technique that
 Raunchydog has referred to recently -- Poking The
 Badger -- I pass along the following. It is a list
 of instructions gleaned from the vedic literature,
 in particular the GottaGetoff Sutra. 
 
 Be warned, because it is said right in that sutra 
 that this practice and other related practices of 
 TM (Toxic Masturbation) are very powerful, and can 
 possibly lead the spiritual aspirant astray, into 
 the realms of madness and obsession. Practiced 
 properly, however, Poking The Badger and other 
 forms of Toxic Masturbation can result in the 
 achievement the state of CC (Cosmic Cuntitude) 
 within a short five to eight year period.
 
 1. First prepare your environment. On your puja 
 table place your laptop (connected to the Internet,
 of course) and your TM Helper device. (Make sure 
 that the Toxic Masturbation Helper's batteries 
 are fully charged, or your Poking The Badger exper-
 ience may not be as satisfying as it should be.)
 
 2. Log in to your favorite location for practicing
 Toxic Masturbation in public, such as a spiritual
 chat forum or a political forum on which some 
 posters have failed to bow down properly to you
 or to Saint Hillary.
 
 3. Fire up your TM Helper. That 'BZZ' sound you
 hear is the sound of the Cosmic OM, allowing you
 to find a resonance with Cosmic Goddessitudeness.
 Apply the TM Helper as directed on the label.
 
 4. Next, pick a victim for your Poking The Badger
 session. It need not be a spit man; it could 
 just as easily be a woman who has failed to bow
 down to you in the past. The only essential thing
 is that the victim has to have written you off
 as a bad bet and have a track record of NEVER 
 responding to any of your brilliant arguments as
 if they were really brilliant, or worth dealing
 with at all. This is important, because if you pick 
 someone who actually treats you as if *anything* 
 you could ever say could possibly be worth arguing 
 about, steps 5 through 7 below won't work properly.
 

Gee, Barry must think I'm really important, so important that he wants to spend 
time bowing down to me in this post.

 5. With your TM Helper switched on and firmly in
 place, write a stinging post calling the victim
 on his or her sexism and Send it off. In the post,
 be sure to include another fantasy argument that
 means nothing to anyone in the world except your-
 self, that the victim is supposed to respond to
 or refute in some way.
 
 6. Sit back and wait for the victim to fail to
 respond. This may take the form of ignoring you
 completely, of laughing at you, or of pointing
 out that the thing he or she is supposed to 
 respond to is ridiculous and not worth wasting 
 time on, or that YOU are ridiculous and not worth 
 wasting time on. In the study of Toxic Masturbation,
 this is what we call foreplay.
 

Sez Barry, responding by not responding. He thinks he's the victim of mockery 
in this scenario. So true. 

 7. When the victim has thus set him- or herself
 up for what we call nailing, deliver the pièce
 de résistance and nail them. Turn your TM
 Helper up a couple of notches and type: HA! 
 Gotcha! You failed to respond to my brilliant
 made-up argument. I win!!! You have *proved* 
 yourself to be sexist! and press Send.
 
 8. At this point, for most Toxic Masturbation prac-
 titioners the objective of Poking The Badger is 
 achieved and they can sit back and share a ciga-
 rette with their TM Helper. But if it doesn't work 
 the first time, just repeat step #7 several more 
 times, saying the same thing over and over until 
 you reach the state of cumadhi.
 
 9. Practice as necessary until you attain CC.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: CSA

2009-07-24 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
   j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote:
 
   From MVCCSA.com superb, fresh Maharishi Vedic Organic Agriculture 
  produce, the best I've ever had!  Good variety.  Fifteen weeks 
  worth 
  of full boxes $30/week, half boxes $15, paid up front.  Weekly 
  pickups on Thursdays.  The full boxes have been a wonderful value I 
  share with two friends, so my cost is $10/week!
  Dick
 
 This is in Fairfield ?

  
  
  
Yep, sure is. 
   
   Ok, technically, no it's not in Fairfield (or in Vedic City, for that 
   matter.) It's six miles north of Fairfield in unincorporated Jefferson 
   County.
   
   Here's a link to a satellite view that shows the two greenhouses. My 
   recollection is that the Vedic City greenhouse is the long skinny one on 
   the left.
   
   http://is.gd/1JpvU [maps.yahoo.com]
  
  
  ***
  
  Kinda close to hog heaven, no?
 
 Hog heaven? I have only a vague recollection of a hog heaven sign somewhere 
 north of FF on Highway 1. If there's a large-scale hog operation in this 
 area, we're certainly not smelling it down here on 155th street, directly 
 south of the greenhouses.


Alex, how do you like the big pig's attire? The people who live on that 
property love their pig.  They dress it up in seasonal costumes. It has 
appeared as the Easter Bunny, a Halloween witch, and Santa. They should dress 
it as a pork chop. Now, that would be funny. Anyway it's one of the more 
interesting things to see driving north on HWY 1. I don't get any whiff of hog 
confinement when I drive by there. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Isn't it fascinating how Germans tend to gravi-
  tate towards and glorify man love, as long as
  it's called something else? The SS officers used
  to do exactly the same thing back in Hitler's day.
 
 The Turq accuses me of being gay ...

I did NOT accuse you of being gay. If you want
to get all oiled up and sweaty with Bevan, that
is absolutely FINE with me...I don't think there
is anything wrong with that. 

Being gay is nothing that you should apologize 
for, Nabby. I just think you'd be happier being
gay if you stop hiding it behind all this bhakti
language. If you're madly in love with the men
in your life (Maharishi, Bevan, Benny Creme,
Maitreya, etc.) why not just SAY you're madly in
love with the men in your life. You don't have to
pretend it's spiritual love. We understand.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Poking The Badger -- a manual for beginners

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote:

 Now Barry is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY mad. 

Raunchy, I think you need to clarify a few things 
for us. When YOU respond to someone poking fun at
you by writing one of your lame revenge fantasies,
you seem to view that as creative and as winning.
You often declare, as does your sister in insanity,
that you aren't angry or mad at all when you do this.

However, when someone like myself reacts to you by
laughing my way through a satire of your act on FFL
as a weird form of masturbation, suddenly I'm mad.

Can you explain this seeming double standard to us?

It seems to me that YOU are the one reacting strongly,
so strongly that many would term you hysterical. It
seems to me that, by comparison, my attempts to poke
fun at that which deserveth to be poked fun at are 
quite reserved by comparison. 

I did not attempt to portray your masturbatory prac-
tices in a negative light or shame you for them. In
fact, I supplied a scriptural basis for why you believe
them valuable, and why you practice them. That's not
mad or angry, that's compassion. 

I'm *proud* of you for finally coming out of the Poking
The Badger closet and owning up to...uh...Getting Off
As You Post as the legitimate spiritual practice it is.
Good for you. 

Now if you could just be as honest about your real feel-
ings for Hillary, I think we'd ALL have more respect
for you. You might have a better chance with her, too.
I hear she hates closet types. 

Honesty *IS* the key, Raunchy. The more open you are 
about your real motivations, the more people will respect
you for them. People would *understand* the desire to get 
into Hillary's size 14 knickers, whereas they wouldn't
understand as readily the compulsion to keep talking,
talking, talking about a political has-been as if she
were still relevant. 

See my point, Raunch? It's like I've explained to Nabby
today. We have *no problem* with his unrequited love for
Bevan, when presented *as* unrequited love. It's when he
feels the need to dress it up as bhakti that we all
suspect that he's being less than honest. 


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  For those interested in learning the technique that
  Raunchydog has referred to recently -- Poking The
  Badger -- I pass along the following. It is a list
  of instructions gleaned from the vedic literature,
  in particular the GottaGetoff Sutra. 
  
  Be warned, because it is said right in that sutra 
  that this practice and other related practices of 
  TM (Toxic Masturbation) are very powerful, and can 
  possibly lead the spiritual aspirant astray, into 
  the realms of madness and obsession. Practiced 
  properly, however, Poking The Badger and other 
  forms of Toxic Masturbation can result in the 
  achievement the state of CC (Cosmic Cuntitude) 
  within a short five to eight year period.
  
  1. First prepare your environment. On your puja 
  table place your laptop (connected to the Internet,
  of course) and your TM Helper device. (Make sure 
  that the Toxic Masturbation Helper's batteries 
  are fully charged, or your Poking The Badger exper-
  ience may not be as satisfying as it should be.)
  
  2. Log in to your favorite location for practicing
  Toxic Masturbation in public, such as a spiritual
  chat forum or a political forum on which some 
  posters have failed to bow down properly to you
  or to Saint Hillary.
  
  3. Fire up your TM Helper. That 'BZZ' sound you
  hear is the sound of the Cosmic OM, allowing you
  to find a resonance with Cosmic Goddessitudeness.
  Apply the TM Helper as directed on the label.
  
  4. Next, pick a victim for your Poking The Badger
  session. It need not be a spit man; it could 
  just as easily be a woman who has failed to bow
  down to you in the past. The only essential thing
  is that the victim has to have written you off
  as a bad bet and have a track record of NEVER 
  responding to any of your brilliant arguments as
  if they were really brilliant, or worth dealing
  with at all. This is important, because if you pick 
  someone who actually treats you as if *anything* 
  you could ever say could possibly be worth arguing 
  about, steps 5 through 7 below won't work properly.
  
 
 Gee, Barry must think I'm really important, so important that he wants to 
 spend time bowing down to me in this post.
 
  5. With your TM Helper switched on and firmly in
  place, write a stinging post calling the victim
  on his or her sexism and Send it off. In the post,
  be sure to include another fantasy argument that
  means nothing to anyone in the world except your-
  self, that the victim is supposed to respond to
  or refute in some way.
  
  6. Sit back and wait for the victim to fail to
  respond. This may take the form of ignoring you
  completely, of laughing at you, or of pointing
  out that the thing he or she is supposed to 
  respond to is ridiculous and not worth wasting 
  time 

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc

2009-07-24 Thread Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  Have you had an opportunity to listen to Bevanji's lecture on this  
  topic Nabby?
 
 Bevan is no Bevanji to me but a Gurubai. He's a sincere disciple in a league 
 and on a level you obviously know anything about.

In English you don't need to say Gurubai, just Bi is sufficient.
 
 Without him being aware of this he has made a very strong application for 
 Discipleship to the Masters of Wisdom, many of Whom are real Buddhists. 

Hmmm, that's interesting, would one need a medium to contact these 'Masters of 
Wisdom' or are they in the phone book?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Poking The Badger -- a manual for beginners

2009-07-24 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 24, 2009, at 9:26 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@...  
wrote:


Now Barry is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY mad.


Raunchy, I think you need to clarify a few things
for us. When YOU respond to someone poking fun at
you by writing one of your lame revenge fantasies,
you seem to view that as creative and as winning.
You often declare, as does your sister in insanity,
that you aren't angry or mad at all when you do this.

However, when someone like myself reacts to you by
laughing my way through a satire of your act on FFL
as a weird form of masturbation, suddenly I'm mad.

Can you explain this seeming double standard to us?


I can--she's nuts. :)  And willing to do anything,
like Judy, to draw someone back in.  Just ignore her.

Sal



[FairfieldLife] Turq sets the trap . . .

2009-07-24 Thread do.rflex


...and they bite every time


  [bait_71593.jpg]



























[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary called a funny lady by NKoreans

2009-07-24 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Jul 24, 2009, at 1:57 AM, raunchydog wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_reply@ wrote:
  
   BillyG wrote:
...can you imagine her as President?
   
   Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,
   refers to the belief or attitude that one gender
   or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less
   valuable than the other...
  
   Sexism:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
  
 
  Sexism Willy Tex? Ya think? The guys dissing Hillary in this thread  
  are the usual suspects, of course. Does it occur to any of them  
  that Hillary's statement is correct and North Korean is wrong?
 
  Here's what sparked North Korea's rather churlishly personal attack:
 
  Hillary: What we've seen is this constant demand for attention,and  
  maybe it's the mother in me or the experience that I've had with  
  small children and unruly teenagers and people who are demanding  
  attention — don't give it to them, they don't deserve it, they are  
  acting out.
 
  In fact Hillary is right on. There is a look at me, look at me  
  quality to all things North Korea. They launched a test missile on  
  July 4th! Geez! And they are making nukes! Geez! You want to side  
  with these guys? Geez!
 
 
 And it's old news for this weird regime. They've been playing the  
 'look at me!, look at me!' game for years. Hillary nailed it and did  
 so very appropriately, like a mature human being observing leaders  
 who act like children. The Koreans response was hilarious, but not  
 surprising given their usual immature game-playing.
 
 It sounds to me like Hill also did a fantastic job in India and is  
 proving herself to be a first rate statesman. It seems as if 'the  
 world likes our Hillary'. I personally think we should all be very  
 proud of the work she's doing, she's certainly part of the improving  
 image of the US in the world. Obama couldn't have chosen a better  
 person.

I think the NKoreans have a point, sometimes she DOES look like a pensioner 
shopping, and boy can she smile for the cameras, that's what we need in a SOS.  
Pelosi is also a very good smiler, perhaps she could be a senior beauty queen, 
what da ya think?  They're so sweet.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Turq sets the trap . . .

2009-07-24 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:28 AM, do.rflex wrote:


...and they bite every time


Using up all their posts in the process--
how dumb can you get?

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary called a funny lady by NKoreans

2009-07-24 Thread Vaj


On Jul 24, 2009, at 11:19 AM, BillyG. wrote:

I think the NKoreans have a point, sometimes she DOES look like a  
pensioner shopping, and boy can she smile for the cameras, that's  
what we need in a SOS. Pelosi is also a very good smiler, perhaps  
she could be a senior beauty queen, what da ya think? They're so  
sweet.



To me Hillary looks younger--like 10 years younger. To me that says  
she's really in her element and enjoying what she does; self-actualized.


Pelosi, to me, looks ravaged by stress. She's in over her head.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq sets the trap . . .

2009-07-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:

 On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:28 AM, do.rflex wrote:
 
  ...and they bite every time
 
 Using up all their posts in the process--
 how dumb can you get?



They can't help themselves.



 
 Sal





[FairfieldLife] Mindsight, cutting meditation research

2009-07-24 Thread Vaj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr4Od7kqDT8

Dr. Dan Siegel, MD, father of modern attachment psychiatry and  
meditation researcher on Google Tech Talks Personal Growth Series  
speaks on Mindsight, the new science of personal transformation.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq sets the trap . . .

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:28 AM, do.rflex wrote:
 
   ...and they bite every time
 
  Using up all their posts in the process--
  how dumb can you get?

 They can't help themselves.

It's the word VICTOR on the trap. I think they've
interpreted that as meaning, I win.  :-)

  [http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/NAN4694.jpg]





[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq sets the trap . . .

2009-07-24 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
  
   On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:28 AM, do.rflex wrote:
  
...and they bite every time
  
   Using up all their posts in the process--
   how dumb can you get?
 
  They can't help themselves.
 
 It's the word VICTOR on the trap. I think they've
 interpreted that as meaning, I win.  :-)
 
   [http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/NAN4694.jpg]



Maybe someone could take bets on how many posts the resident FFL post out 
wonder uses up in response to this.








[FairfieldLife] Mindsight, cutting edge meditation research

2009-07-24 Thread Vaj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr4Od7kqDT8

Dr. Dan Siegel, MD, father of modern attachment psychiatry and  
meditation researcher on Google Tech Talks Personal Growth Series  
speaks on Mindsight, the new science of personal transformation.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum Theory of Reality

2009-07-24 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 To All:
 
 After attempting to understanding the current scientific ideas relating to 
 the quantum world, it appears that MMY's ideas about the basis of 
 consciousness are just as valid and could be used as the standard model to 
 describe the behaviour of the quantum phenomena.
 
 MMY has stated that the potential of consciousness can be understood in his 
 triune relationship of the Rishi--Devata--Chandas.  Rishi is the observer, 
 Devata is the process of observing, and Chandas is the observed.  In other 
 words, the potential of consciousness is a dynamic whole until it manifests 
 into reality, or Chandas.
 
 Similarly, physicists have observed that the atom contains all of the 
 potential of what it will do in the real world.  It can go forward and 
 backward in time.  It can also be in the local area of existence or be 
 outside it, meaning that the atom can operate anywhere in the universe.
 
 In other words, it is through the atom and its particle components that the 
 manifestations of consciousness occur.  From scientific tests, physicists 
 have found that the behaviour of the atom and particles in it are affected or 
 influenced when it is observed or measured.  In common parlance, it would 
 mean that our thoughts influence the behaviour of the atom.  Consequently, it 
 affects our physical existence.
 
 In other words the atom is the ultimate nano-bot.  It is a machine that 
 carries out its function relying on the commands of consciousness.  So, the 
 old WYSZWYG acronym applies, what you see is what you get.  As such, if one 
 maintains a garbage thought, he or she gets garbage out.  Conversely, a 
 pleasant thought can automatically benefit our physical reality, such as our 
 own physical body.



Yea, good analogy.  

Gets back to 
Reducing dissonance and the Noble cause
of what to do about non-meditators.

JGD, 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq sets the trap . . .

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
   
On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:28 AM, do.rflex wrote:
   
 ...and they bite every time
   
Using up all their posts in the process--
how dumb can you get?
  
   They can't help themselves.
  
  It's the word VICTOR on the trap. I think they've
  interpreted that as meaning, I win.  :-)
  
[http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/NAN4694.jpg]
 
 Maybe someone could take bets on how many posts the resident 
 FFL post out wonder uses up in response to this.

I already made my bet, in an earlier post. 

I suspect, given the buildup to one of her
by-now-predictable meltdowns we've been seeing
lately, that she'll have used up at least 20 of 
her 50 posts by Saturday night's Post Count 
post. That is, within the first 24 hours.

Of course, being Judy, there is a strong pos-
sibility taht she will make only 19 posts by 
that time (so that she can say Barry was wrong, 
I win!), wait for the Saturday night Post 
Count post, and then make another ten or so 
more before going to sleep. My overall bet 
is that she posts out completely before 
Tuesday. As I said, the signs of an impending 
meltdown are just too clear to ignore.

As for Raunchy, she rarely posts out completely
because once Judy is gone for the week she's 
afraid to get into it with other posters without 
Big Jude around to rush in and protect her. Besides,
she's not the most creative crayon in the box, so 
I'm betting that she won't be able to think up 
enough stuff to write about to post out herself 
by the time Judy does, and thus won't get to 50 
for the week at all.

Off's...uh...off for the week, so he posted out
early. :-) With Nabby, who alternates between com-
pulsive bash the Buddhists posts and his version
of global good news, I imagine the issue will be
how many new crop circles are found next week. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum Theory of Reality

2009-07-24 Thread yifuxero
---thx, the potential of the atom pertains to relative causes, even if we can't 
trace all of the steps in a chain of causation.
The potential of pure Consciousness is different type of usage of the term 
and doesn't apply to participation in the world of causes and effects.
 If various What-the-Bleep New Agers (including the likes of Hagelin) are 
claiming that realization of the Unified Field of pure Consciousness leads to 
extraordinary results in the real world; look again at the record.
  History tends to point a direct connection between SHAKTI levels and the 
attainment of Siddhis; irrspective of one's realization the Self. (the Self 
doesn't participate in causations, but Shakti does);...so logic would tell us 
those with the greatest storehouse of Shakti would possess the most power 
Siddhis.
 Examples: Guru Dev, Sri Aurubindo; and various other Divine Mother Devotees 
such as Ramakrishna were known to exhibit genuine Sidhis, and a logical 
conclusion (imo) is that their storeshouse of Shakti made the Siddhis possible.
  MMY's anti-religious stance may have through some of the baby (Shakti) out 
with the bathwater; since although MMY's Yagya program generates Shakti, he and 
current TMO followers give no outward credit to the power of 
Shakti.(claiming it's all The Unified Field).


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  To All:
  
  After attempting to understanding the current scientific ideas relating to 
  the quantum world, it appears that MMY's ideas about the basis of 
  consciousness are just as valid and could be used as the standard model to 
  describe the behaviour of the quantum phenomena.
  
  MMY has stated that the potential of consciousness can be understood in his 
  triune relationship of the Rishi--Devata--Chandas.  Rishi is the observer, 
  Devata is the process of observing, and Chandas is the observed.  In other 
  words, the potential of consciousness is a dynamic whole until it manifests 
  into reality, or Chandas.
  
  Similarly, physicists have observed that the atom contains all of the 
  potential of what it will do in the real world.  It can go forward and 
  backward in time.  It can also be in the local area of existence or be 
  outside it, meaning that the atom can operate anywhere in the universe.
  
  In other words, it is through the atom and its particle components that the 
  manifestations of consciousness occur.  From scientific tests, physicists 
  have found that the behaviour of the atom and particles in it are affected 
  or influenced when it is observed or measured.  In common parlance, it 
  would mean that our thoughts influence the behaviour of the atom.  
  Consequently, it affects our physical existence.
  
  In other words the atom is the ultimate nano-bot.  It is a machine that 
  carries out its function relying on the commands of consciousness.  So, the 
  old WYSZWYG acronym applies, what you see is what you get.  As such, if 
  one maintains a garbage thought, he or she gets garbage out.  Conversely, a 
  pleasant thought can automatically benefit our physical reality, such as 
  our own physical body.
 
 
 
 Yea, good analogy.  
 
 Gets back to 
 Reducing dissonance and the Noble cause
 of what to do about non-meditators.
 
 JGD,





[FairfieldLife] New Hope for Peace and an End to the Israel-Palestine Conflict

2009-07-24 Thread do.rflex


As the Obama Administration begins a new chapter in the search for peace 
between Israel and Palestine, four American statesmen, Jimmy Carter, James A. 
Baker, Brent Scowcroft and Zbigniew Brzezinski call for strong American 
Presidential leadership and outline a comprehensive American plan for a two 
state peace that will ensure security for Israel and freedom for Palestine. 


Part One [9 1/2 minutes runtime]: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMbBYCM4SWANR=1


Part Two [11 minutes runtime]: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wophN2YoIsAfeature=channel



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq sets the trap . . .

2009-07-24 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
   
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
 On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:28 AM, do.rflex wrote:

   
 ...and they bite every time
 
 Using up all their posts in the process--
 how dumb can you get?
   
 They can't help themselves.
 
 It's the word VICTOR on the trap. I think they've
 interpreted that as meaning, I win.  :-)

   [http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/NAN4694.jpg]
   
 Maybe someone could take bets on how many posts the resident 
 FFL post out wonder uses up in response to this.
 

 I already made my bet, in an earlier post. 

 I suspect, given the buildup to one of her
 by-now-predictable meltdowns we've been seeing
 lately, that she'll have used up at least 20 of 
 her 50 posts by Saturday night's Post Count 
 post. That is, within the first 24 hours.

 Of course, being Judy, there is a strong pos-
 sibility taht she will make only 19 posts by 
 that time (so that she can say Barry was wrong, 
 I win!), wait for the Saturday night Post 
 Count post, and then make another ten or so 
 more before going to sleep. My overall bet 
 is that she posts out completely before 
 Tuesday. As I said, the signs of an impending 
 meltdown are just too clear to ignore.

 As for Raunchy, she rarely posts out completely
 because once Judy is gone for the week she's 
 afraid to get into it with other posters without 
 Big Jude around to rush in and protect her. Besides,
 she's not the most creative crayon in the box, so 
 I'm betting that she won't be able to think up 
 enough stuff to write about to post out herself 
 by the time Judy does, and thus won't get to 50 
 for the week at all.

 Off's...uh...off for the week, so he posted out
 early. :-) With Nabby, who alternates between com-
 pulsive bash the Buddhists posts and his version
 of global good news, I imagine the issue will be
 how many new crop circles are found next week. :-)
Judy often contradicts herself and if you say so then she'll demand 
where and of course we know she'll say it is not a contradiction.  But 
anyone who is bothering to read the exchanges will see the 
contradictions.  By the end of the exchange this last week she claimed 
that I said she had watched Naomi Wolf's video when actually I pointed 
out both by quote and message links that she hadn't.  She just SO HAS TO 
BE RIGHT that she often boxes herself into a corner.



[FairfieldLife] Re: New Hope for Peace and an End to the Israel-Palestine Conflict

2009-07-24 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 
 
 As the Obama Administration begins a new chapter in the search for peace 
 between Israel and Palestine, four American statesmen, Jimmy Carter, James A. 
 Baker, Brent Scowcroft and Zbigniew Brzezinski call for strong American 
 Presidential leadership and outline a comprehensive American plan for a two 
 state peace that will ensure security for Israel and freedom for Palestine. 
 
 
 Part One [9 1/2 minutes runtime]: 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMbBYCM4SWANR=1
 
 
 Part Two [11 minutes runtime]: 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wophN2YoIsAfeature=channel

Hey where's Hillary?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum Theory of Reality

2009-07-24 Thread John
Peter,

It appears that MMY knew that his idea relating to the trinal components of 
consciousness cannot be tested in scientific empirical tests.  He was a 
physicist.  In science, there is a level of matter that cannot be measured due 
to its minute size, the Heisenberg principle (as far as I can remember).  At 
the present state of technology, scientists do not have the capability to 
measure these minute levels of existence.

Like MMY, scientists often used thought experiments to test their ideas.  These 
scientists included Einstein, Bohr and Schroedinger.  There is a school of 
thought among physicists which favor the role of consciousness in the quantum 
world.  From my understanding, Hagelin seems to be pushing the consciousness 
factor (MMY's ideas) into the understanding of the quantum.

Nonetheless, the Hadron Collider in Switzerland is supposed to answer much of 
the speculation regarding the missing particles, including one theoretical 
boson.  If they find this particle, then the physicists should be able to 
formulate the Grand Unification Theory.  As a side note, Hawking, a famous 
physicists from England, placed a bet that the scientists will not find the 
theoretical particles, but would find other discoveries that would befuddle the 
theoreticians even more.

Until such time, the jury is still out in making any pronouncement regarding 
the validity of MMY's idea.
















--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutp...@... wrote:

 
 This is what is known as pseudo science. It is filled with explanatory 
 concepts that have no empirical grounding and for the most part not open to 
 any empirical validation. Its how people not familiar with science think. It 
 very similar to medieval philosophy filled with homunculi and God's love. 
 Silly stuff primarily because the explanatory models are never open for 
 empirical validation. Any physicist working in quantum mechanics recognizes 
 that no matter how unusual sounding their model, it ultimately needs to be 
 open to empirical validation.  
 
 --- On Thu, 7/23/09, John jr_...@... wrote:
 
  From: John jr_...@...
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Quantum Theory of Reality
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 5:03 PM
  To All:
  
  After attempting to understanding the current scientific
  ideas relating to the quantum world, it appears that MMY's
  ideas about the basis of consciousness are just as valid and
  could be used as the standard model to describe the
  behaviour of the quantum phenomena.
  
  MMY has stated that the potential of consciousness can be
  understood in his triune relationship of the
  Rishi--Devata--Chandas.  Rishi is the observer, Devata
  is the process of observing, and Chandas is the
  observed.  In other words, the potential of
  consciousness is a dynamic whole until it manifests into
  reality, or Chandas.
  
  Similarly, physicists have observed that the atom contains
  all of the potential of what it will do in the real
  world.  It can go forward and backward in time. 
  It can also be in the local area of existence or be outside
  it, meaning that the atom can operate anywhere in the
  universe.
  
  In other words, it is through the atom and its particle
  components that the manifestations of consciousness
  occur.  From scientific tests, physicists have found
  that the behaviour of the atom and particles in it are
  affected or influenced when it is observed or
  measured.  In common parlance, it would mean that our
  thoughts influence the behaviour of the atom. 
  Consequently, it affects our physical existence.
  
  In other words the atom is the ultimate nano-bot. 
  It is a machine that carries out its function relying on the
  commands of consciousness.  So, the old WYSZWYG acronym
  applies, what you see is what you get.  As such, if
  one maintains a garbage thought, he or she gets garbage
  out.  Conversely, a pleasant thought can automatically
  benefit our physical reality, such as our own physical
  body.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  To subscribe, send a message to:
  fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
  
  Or go to: 
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  and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Turq sets the trap . . .

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 Judy often contradicts herself and if you say so then she'll 
 demand where and of course we know she'll say it is not a 
 contradiction. But anyone who is bothering to read the exchanges 
 will see the contradictions.  

That is rather fascinating. I've never seen
anything quite like it. What I've come to 
believe it is is initiator envy. 

That is, if you've watched the things that 
Judy believes in firmly, many of them have 
the same quality -- they were told to her by 
someone to whom she granted authority status, 
so she just accepted what they said without 
ever questioning it for a moment. If you call 
her on this she'll deny it, of course, but I 
think anyone who has watched her posts for 
some years will agree. To win her compulsive
arguments, she almost always falls back on
citing some authority.

The thing is, now that she's old and approaching
death, what she seems to want most is to be per-
ceived as having authority status HERSELF. 

She wants others to hear the things that she 
says and immediately accept them as Truth, the
way *she* did with what Maharishi said and what
the intiators said, and as she does still with
the news sources *she* considers authoritative. 
( Remember, we're talking about someone who is
willing to call a film director a Christian
bigot based *only* on what one of her chosen 
authorities said, without ever having seen 
the movie herself. I rest my case. )

And she finds it tremendously frustrating when 
that doesn't happen when *she* speaks, and people 
treat her as nothing more than one more voice in 
the crowd, someone whose pronouncements and 
claims of truth have no more validity or value 
or truth in them than anyone else's. 

What else can explain the levels of frustration
we see in her when someone *doesn't* accept what
she says as true just because she said it? She
sees this, and believes ( because she's...uh...
a little crazy ) that it must be because someone
has LIED about her, so she freaks out and attacks
the person or persons she believes have somehow 
sabotaged her divine credibility.

The thing is, the whole *reasoning* is bent. Sane
people just don't automatically believe what some-
one else says. Stupid people and cultists do that. 

Having been one for so many decades, she must have
come to believe that *everyone* is like her, and
that if she just corrects enough of these lies
that have been told about her, they'll react to
her the way that *she* reacted to the people *she*
believed just because they said something.

I really think this is the issue. As someone here
pointed out not long ago, Maharishi's instructions
to many TM teachers was that they should give the 
impression of never having been wrong, and never
admit to have made a mistake of any kind. That is
the act that Judy *bought* for so many decades, 
and so she somehow believes that if she runs this
same act herself that people will buy *her* auth-
ority the way she bought the authority of the TM
teachers who ran this number on her. 

Of course, all of this may just be rationalization
on my part, and not be why she acts the way she
acts at all. The truth may be much simpler -- she 
may actually be crazier than many of us think, and 
this inability to ever admit having been wrong may 
just be normal, everyday megalomania. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Racial profiling and the Gates case

2009-07-24 Thread shempmcgurk
Here is what is confusing me about the Gates case.

I have heard commentators say that Gates was racially profiled by the 
policeman who came to his home.  Although Gates may have been profiled by the 
neighbor who made the initial call to police/911 that started this whole thing 
off, there certainly wasn't any racial profiling done on the part of the police 
officer that went to the house.

Why?  

Because race wasn't a consideration in determining whether Gates had 
committed an illegal act.  The cop was already looking for a black male, as 
described by the neighbor.  Had a crime been committed and a black was stopped 
by a policeman on the street near where the crime was committed solely because 
of his skin color then, yes, this would have been racial profiling.  But in 
this case ONLY blacks were suspected because that is what the identity of the 
suspect was described as.

Here is the Wiki definition of racial profiling:

Racial profiling is the inclusion of racial or ethnic characteristics in 
determining whether a person is considered likely to commit a particular type 
of crime or an illegal act or to behave in a 'predictable' manner. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindsight, cutting edge meditation research

2009-07-24 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr4Od7kqDT8
 
 Dr. Dan Siegel, MD, father of modern attachment psychiatry and  
 meditation researcher on Google Tech Talks Personal Growth Series  
 speaks on Mindsight, the new science of personal transformation.


Om, Neurons that fire together wire together as integrative process.
Isn't that a definition of meditation?

Fabulous stuff vaj.  Thanks for posting this link.
Seems is very cutting edge.

 Does comes back again to what are we going to do about that non-meditator
unhealthy public influence all around us?  Those non-meditators are such a 
damned drag.  

Does this guy have public health proposal as a plan to reduce non-meditation?  
Pay people to meditate like David Lynch Foundation or Howard Settle?  Given all 
the worthy research and thot about it, what would be his policy initiatives 
towards more mindfulness?

Teach it systematically in public schools to each generation and rid the world 
of non-meditation generation by generation?

He's a scientist with no apparent affiliation other than UCLA.  Just as mental 
health policy, he might be able to get away with it.  Evidently would change 
the world.  I wish him well.


-D in FF




[FairfieldLife] Art Break

2009-07-24 Thread TurquoiseB
Q: What do these photographs all have in common?

  [http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_05/biro1SWNS_599x800.jpg]
  [http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/bicartW0202_800x578.jpg]

  [http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/bicartW0202_800x1166.jpg]

A: They're not photographs. They are all paintings, done
on canvas using ballpoint pens as paint:

  [http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_05/biroSWNS_600x800.jpg]

See:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-511688/Simply-birolliant--incred\
ible-10ft-photographs-drawn-ballpoint-pen.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-511688/Simply-birolliant--incre\
dible-10ft-photographs-drawn-ballpoint-pen.html





Re: [FairfieldLife] Racial profiling and the Gates case

2009-07-24 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 24, 2009, at 3:48 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:


Here is what is confusing me about the Gates case.

I have heard commentators say that Gates was racially profiled by  
the policeman who came to his home.  Although Gates may have been  
profiled by the neighbor who made the initial call to police/911  
that started this whole thing off, there certainly wasn't any racial  
profiling done on the part of the police officer that went to the  
house.


Why?

Because race wasn't a consideration in determining whether Gates  
had committed an illegal act. The cop was already looking for a  
black male, as described by the neighbor.  Had a crime been  
committed and a black was stopped by a policeman on the street near  
where the crime was committed solely because of his skin color then,  
yes, this would have been racial profiling.  But in this case ONLY  
blacks were suspected because that is what the identity of the  
suspect was described as.


I sort of agree with shemp... I must be feeling worse than I thought.
What it definitely is, though, is a sad comment on our times
and our sense of community.  His own neighbor didn't recognize
him?  How sad is that.

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindsight, cutting edge meditation research

2009-07-24 Thread Vaj


On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:49 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:

Does this guy have public health proposal as a plan to reduce non- 
meditation? Pay people to meditate like David Lynch Foundation or  
Howard Settle? Given all the worthy research and thot about it, what  
would be his policy initiatives towards more mindfulness?


For children, innerkids.org but also mindfulness is taught in most  
major hospitals in the US and abroad. HH the Dalai Lama has requested  
he and other scientists do what religion, theistic and non-theistic,  
have failed to do, and bring peace by creating a non-sectarian  
meditation method or methods for the masses. See:


http://home.earthlink.net/~vajranatha/Site_6/Movie.html

(requires Quicktime)



Teach it systematically in public schools to each generation and rid  
the world of non-meditation generation by generation?


Already being done.



He's a scientist with no apparent affiliation other than UCLA. Just  
as mental health policy, he might be able to get away with it.  
Evidently would change the world. I wish him well.


He's affiliated with the Mind and Life Institute, probably the most  
important scientific effort ever regarding meditation and includes  
some of the finest scientific minds on the planet. He's also  
affiliated with the Garrison Institute which helps with the  
intersection of contemplation and engaged action in the world. He's  
also involved in yearly meditation retreats that introduce meditation  
to scientists.


http://www.mindandlife.org/

http://www.garrisoninstitute.org/home.php

[FairfieldLife] Obama calls officer Crowley and makes statement on Gates issue

2009-07-24 Thread do.rflex


So at the end of the conversation there was a discussion 
about -- my conversation with Sergeant Crowley, there 
was discussion about he and I and Professor Gates having 
a beer here in the White House.  We don't know if that's 
scheduled yet -- (laughter) -- but we may put that together.
 
He also did say he wanted to find out if there was a way 
of getting the press off his lawn.  (Laughter.)  I informed 
him that I can't get the press off my lawn.  (Laughter.)  
He pointed out that my lawn is bigger than his lawn.  (Laughter.)  But if 
anybody has any connections to the Boston press, 
as well as national press, Sergeant Crowley would be happy 
for you to stop trampling his grass.


- - President Obama made a surprise appearance in the White House briefing room 
to say he could have calibrated his words differently when he suggested 
Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting Harvard professor Henry Lewis 
Gates, Jr.


STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT
 
James S. Brady Press Briefing Room
 
2:33 P.M. EDT
 
THE PRESIDENT:  Hey, it's a cameo appearance.  Sit down, sit down.  I need to 
help Gibbs out a little bit here.
 
QAre you the new press secretary?
 
THE PRESIDENT:  If you got to do a job, do it yourself.  (Laughter.)
 
I wanted to address you guys directly because over the last day and a half 
obviously there's been all sorts of controversy around the incident that 
happened in Cambridge with Professor Gates and the police department there.
 
I actually just had a conversation with Sergeant Jim Crowley, the officer 
involved.  And I have to tell you that as I said yesterday, my impression of 
him was that he was a outstanding police officer and a good man, and that was 
confirmed in the phone conversation -- and I told him that.
 
And because this has been ratcheting up -- and I obviously helped to contribute 
ratcheting it up -- I want to make clear that in my choice of words I think I 
unfortunately gave an impression that I was maligning the Cambridge Police 
Department or Sergeant Crowley specifically -- and I could have calibrated 
those words differently.  And I told this to Sergeant Crowley.
 
I continue to believe, based on what I have heard, that there was an 
overreaction in pulling Professor Gates out of his home to the station.  

I also continue to believe, based on what I heard, that Professor Gates 
probably overreacted as well.  My sense is you've got two good people in a 
circumstance in which neither of them were able to resolve the incident in the 
way that it should have been resolved and the way they would have liked it to 
be resolved.
 
The fact that it has garnered so much attention I think is a testimony to the 
fact that these are issues that are still very sensitive here in America.  So 
to the extent that my choice of words didn't illuminate, but rather contributed 
to more media frenzy, I think that was unfortunate.
 
What I'd like to do then I make sure that everybody steps back for a moment, 
recognizes that these are two decent people, not extrapolate too much from the 
facts -- but as I said at the press conference, be mindful of the fact that 
because of our history, because of the difficulties of the past, you know, 
African Americans are sensitive to these issues.  

And even when you've got a police officer who has a fine track record on racial 
sensitivity, interactions between police officers and the African American 
community can sometimes be fraught with misunderstanding.
 
My hope is, is that as a consequence of this event this ends up being what's 
called a teachable moment, where all of us instead of pumping up the volume 
spend a little more time listening to each other and try to focus on how we can 
generally improve relations between police officers and minority communities, 
and that instead of flinging accusations we can all be a little more reflective 
in terms of what we can do to contribute to more unity.  Lord knows we need it 
right now -- because over the last two days as we've discussed this issue, I 
don't know if you've noticed, but nobody has been paying much attention to 
health care.  (Laughter.)
 
I will not use this time to spend more words on health care, although I can't 
guarantee that that will be true next week.  I just wanted to emphasize that -- 
one last point I guess I would make.  There are some who say that as President 
I shouldn't have stepped into this at all because it's a local issue.  I have 
to tell you that that part of it I disagree with.  The fact that this has 
become such a big issue I think is indicative of the fact that race is still a 
troubling aspect of our society.  Whether I were black or white, I think that 
me commenting on this and hopefully contributing to constructive -- as opposed 
to negative -- understandings about the issue, is part of my portfolio.
 
So at the end of the conversation there was a discussion about -- my 
conversation with Sergeant Crowley, there was discussion about he and I and 

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc

2009-07-24 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 
 The Turq **accuses** me of being gay 

Your choice of word accuses indicates that you believe that being gay is a 
wrong/bad/evil. You may believe this consciously, but if you don't, your choice 
of word indicates that you believe it unconsciously.

accuse: to charge with a fault or offense


Buddhist Joke in Two Acts

Act One
A Buddhist monk stepped up to a hot dog vendor, contemplating what to have for 
lunch.  Seeing a line behind the monk, the vendor became impatient, and 
demanded from the monk, What do you want?  The monk handed him $20 and 
replied, Make me one with everything! 

Act Two
The vendor handed the monk his hot dog and started taking care of the next man 
on line.   Wait, said the monk.  Where's my change?  The vendor gazed at 
the monk and answered, Change must come from within.

Written by Robert Johnson  





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Turq sets the trap . . .

2009-07-24 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Of course, all of this may just be rationalization
 on my part, and not be why she acts the way she
 acts at all. The truth may be much simpler -- she 
 may actually be crazier than many of us think, and 
 this inability to ever admit having been wrong may 
 just be normal, everyday megalomania. :-)
Or like I said in the exchange, she's a pitta type (she's admitted as 
being such) and pitta types don't like to be wrong.  I ought to know 
because that's my main dosha too.   ;-)  

Of course it is the primary dosha for many westerners and many on FFL.  
It makes for intense, heated debates.  But many pittas prefer to be 
careful not to stick their necks out too much.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Doing Sanyama on Universal Health Care'

2009-07-24 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 Om I need sumbodytotake care of me om
 
 --- On Fri, 7/24/09, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote:
 
snip,,
   Probably be some care for a while but the old people will be advised to 
not waste it and, do without.  check it out.



[FairfieldLife] The Latest Advance in Vedic Agriculture

2009-07-24 Thread Mike Doughney
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE56M3G020090723

Naked girls plow fields for rain
Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:35pm EDT

PATNA, India (Reuters) - Farmers in an eastern Indian state have asked their 
unmarried daughters to plow parched fields naked in a bid to embarrass the 
weather gods to bring some badly needed monsoon rain, officials said on 
Thursday.

Witnesses said the naked girls in Bihar state plowed the fields and chanted 
ancient hymns after sunset to invoke the gods. They said elderly village women 
helped the girls drag the plows.

They (villagers) believe their acts would get the weather gods badly 
embarrassed, who in turn would ensure bumper crops by sending rains, Upendra 
Kumar, a village council official, said from Bihar's remote Banke Bazaar town.

This is the most trusted social custom in the area and the villagers have 
vowed to continue this practice until it rains very heavily.

India this year suffered its worst start to the vital monsoon rains in eight 
decades, causing drought in some states.

(Writing by Bappa Majumdar Editing by Sugita Katyal)



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Latest Advance in Vedic Agriculture

2009-07-24 Thread shempmcgurk
Works for me.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Doughney m...@... wrote:

 http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE56M3G020090723
 
 Naked girls plow fields for rain
 Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:35pm EDT
 
 PATNA, India (Reuters) - Farmers in an eastern Indian state have asked their 
 unmarried daughters to plow parched fields naked in a bid to embarrass the 
 weather gods to bring some badly needed monsoon rain, officials said on 
 Thursday.
 
 Witnesses said the naked girls in Bihar state plowed the fields and chanted 
 ancient hymns after sunset to invoke the gods. They said elderly village 
 women helped the girls drag the plows.
 
 They (villagers) believe their acts would get the weather gods badly 
 embarrassed, who in turn would ensure bumper crops by sending rains, Upendra 
 Kumar, a village council official, said from Bihar's remote Banke Bazaar town.
 
 This is the most trusted social custom in the area and the villagers have 
 vowed to continue this practice until it rains very heavily.
 
 India this year suffered its worst start to the vital monsoon rains in eight 
 decades, causing drought in some states.
 
 (Writing by Bappa Majumdar Editing by Sugita Katyal)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum Theory of Reality

2009-07-24 Thread dhamiltony2k5
 
 Until such time, the jury is still out in making any pronouncement regarding 
 the validity of MMY's idea.
 


Om heck. U don't need no pronouncement, is self-evident.  Not a meditator?  
Learn to meditate, git your meditation checked, report for some forest academy 
time and actually do the practice.  Be mindful.  Maharishi was essentially 
right, you'd see.  Don't git yourself hung up waiting on just a bozon or 
whatever.

 
 
and its particle
   components that the manifestations of consciousness
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   affected or influenced when it is observed or
   measured.  In common parlance, it would mean that our
   thoughts influence the behaviour of the atom. 
   Consequently, it affects our physical existence.
   
   In other words the atom is the ultimate nano-bot. 
   It is a machine that carries out its function relying on the
   commands of consciousness.  So, the old WYSZWYG acronym
   applies, what you see is what you get.  As such, if
   one maintains a garbage thought, he or she gets garbage
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Latest Advance in Vedic Agriculture

2009-07-24 Thread Vaj

What, no YouTube link?

On Jul 24, 2009, at 6:51 PM, Mike Doughney wrote:


http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE56M3G020090723

Naked girls plow fields for rain
Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:35pm EDT

PATNA, India (Reuters) - Farmers in an eastern Indian state have  
asked their unmarried daughters to plow parched fields naked in a  
bid to embarrass the weather gods to bring some badly needed monsoon  
rain, officials said on Thursday.


Witnesses said the naked girls in Bihar state plowed the fields and  
chanted ancient hymns after sunset to invoke the gods. They said  
elderly village women helped the girls drag the plows.


They (villagers) believe their acts would get the weather gods  
badly embarrassed, who in turn would ensure bumper crops by sending  
rains, Upendra Kumar, a village council official, said from Bihar's  
remote Banke Bazaar town.


This is the most trusted social custom in the area and the  
villagers have vowed to continue this practice until it rains very  
heavily.


India this year suffered its worst start to the vital monsoon rains  
in eight decades, causing drought in some states.


(Writing by Bappa Majumdar Editing by Sugita Katyal)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Out of here!

2009-07-24 Thread Bhairitu
WillyTex wrote:
 Too boring, sexist pundits, just like the TMO.

 Google Groups:
 http://tinyurl.com/c7b4oo
 Too%20boring.%20%20Google%20Groups:%20http://tinyurl.com/c7b4oo 

   
Yup, Willy's back to giving his darshans on a.m.t.




[FairfieldLife] Pundits flying

2009-07-24 Thread bob_brigante
 [Global Country of World Peace]


[FairfieldLife] The birth of Brahman

2009-07-24 Thread bob_brigante

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In the Vedic Civilization the administration was based on the highest
level of consciousness. Maharishi has explained that the ideal
administration has its seat in the silence of pure consciousness,
Brahman. The birth of Brahman, pure consciousness, is on that delicate
level of existence and intelligence where the birth of silence is from
activity and the birth of activity is from silence. Brahman integrates
these opposite values of silence and activity. Silence is Gyanshakti
(Gyan = knowledge, Shakti = power) and activity is Kriyashakti (Kriya =
action, Shakti = power). Brahman is made of these two opposite values,
silence and dynamism, but at the same time it remains completely
unified. On this level there is no difference between silence and
dynamism. This field of the perfect union of the two opposite values
qualifies as the supreme level of administration. This field of
administration is a field of all possibilities. By associating with this
level of consciousness, the government keeps all knowledge and the
application of this knowledge lively in the collective consciousness of
the people.
  [National Maharishi Yagya® Performances]
National Maharishi Yagya Performances to
Establish a Perfect Government In Your Country

Administering an Ideal Society

Starting on the Day of Lasting Achievements (27th April, 2009) a series
of special Maharishi Yagya® performances has begun in India,
requested by responsible citizens who have come forward to sponsor
National Maharishi Yagya performances for their country. For those
countries that have found supporters, new sets of National Maharishi
Yagya performances commence on:

1. 25th July to 4th August 2009 (First Set)
2. 6th August to 16th August 2009 (Second Set)

Contributing to these National Maharishi Yagya performances brings
threefold benefits:

1) Participation makes you the instrument through which the effects of
the Maharishi Yagya program flow to your country;

2) this also makes you a primary beneficiary in Maharishi's global
plan to create Heaven on Earth; and

3) it gives you the rare opportunity to accumulate life-supporting
effects for your own life by supporting Maharishi's world-wide plan.

Every Country has the Government which it Deserves

Maharishi has brought to light the principle that to have a better
government, the country has to improve its deserving ability by raising
its collective consciousness. The quality of government depends on the
quality of the collective consciousness of the people. When the
collective consciousness of the country is united and coherent, then one
individual, a king, can represent all the divergent interests of the
people. When the collective consciousness disintegrates and different
interest groups appear in the country, then democracy is born. Each
group has its own representatives who meet as a body to work out a
solution for the whole country. When the collective consciousness
deteriorates further and fighting among the interest groups occurs even
outside the halls of government, then democratic rules fail to establish
peace and harmony in the country. After some time the desire for harmony
and unity grows in the collective consciousness of the people and a
dictator appears to end the unrest and administer the country by force.

In the past decades we have seen the world come to a state of war and
destruction, which brought humanity to the brink of extinction. It was
only through Maharishi's untiring efforts to bring peace to the
world and invincibility to all countries that world consciousness has
started to rise and the global danger has been averted. In more recent
years we have seen dictatorships, including the dictatorship of the
proletariat,  mostly disappear from political life. The time is now
favoring the rise of world consciousness to a level which supports a
Vedic civilization.

Ideal Government is Based in Silence

In the Vedic Civilization the administration was based on the highest
level of consciousness. Maharishi has explained that the ideal
administration has its seat in the silence of pure consciousness,
Brahman. The birth of Brahman, pure consciousness, is on that delicate
level of existence and intelligence where the birth of silence is from
activity and the birth of activity is from silence. Brahman integrates
these opposite values of silence and activity. Silence is Gyanshakti
(Gyan = knowledge, Shakti = power) and activity is Kriyashakti (Kriya =
action, Shakti = power). Brahman is made of these two opposite values,
silence and dynamism, but at the same time it remains completely
unified. On this level there is no difference between silence and
dynamism. This field of the perfect union of the two opposite values
qualifies as the supreme level of administration. This field of
administration is a field of all possibilities. By associating with this
level of consciousness, the government keeps all knowledge and the
application 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Doing Sanyama on Universal Health Care'

2009-07-24 Thread Mike Dixon
Yep, that's where all the savings come in. Most health care dollars are spent 
in the last years of life and thats' when it will be rationed. If you're 
retired and living past normal life expectency, *no major surgery or expensive 
health care for you*! Just take these pills and enjoy the ride. It will be your 
duty to cross over. They are planning councilors for the elderly. Wow! no more 
social security or medical bills for that one!

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Doing Sanyama on Universal Health Care'
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:17 PM


  



--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:

 Om I need sumbodytotake care of me om
 
 --- On Fri, 7/24/09, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ ... wrote:
 
snip,,
Probably be some care for a while but the old people will be advised to not 
waste it and, do without. check it out.

















  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Doing Sanyama on Universal Health Care'

2009-07-24 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 Yep, that's where all the savings come in. Most health care dollars are spent 
 in the last years of life and thats' when it will be rationed. If you're 
 retired and living past normal life expectency, *no major surgery or 
 expensive health care for you*! Just take these pills and enjoy the ride. It 
 will be your duty to cross over. They are planning councilors for the 
 elderly. Wow! no more social security or medical bills for that one!
 
 --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote:
 
snip,
  Seems odd that people would approve of such a plan when they soon might be 
victims of it.
   Wonder if there would be exceptions for someone say seventy plus that goes 
to work every day and contributes to the economy.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Doing Sanyama on Universal Health Care'

2009-07-24 Thread Bhairitu
Why not pay a bonus to people who stay healthy?

Mike Dixon wrote:
 Yep, that's where all the savings come in. Most health care dollars are spent 
 in the last years of life and thats' when it will be rationed. If you're 
 retired and living past normal life expectency, *no major surgery or 
 expensive health care for you*! Just take these pills and enjoy the ride. It 
 will be your duty to cross over. They are planning councilors for the 
 elderly. Wow! no more social security or medical bills for that one!

 --- On Fri, 7/24/09, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com wrote:


 From: Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Doing Sanyama on Universal Health Care'
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 10:17 PM


   



 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote:
   
 Om I need sumbodytotake care of me om

 --- On Fri, 7/24/09, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ ... wrote:

 
 snip,,
 Probably be some care for a while but the old people will be advised to not 
 waste it and, do without. check it out.

















   
   




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Doing Sanyama on Universal Health Care'

2009-07-24 Thread It's just a ride
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Yep, that's where all the savings come in. Most health care dollars are spent 
 in the last years of life and thats' when it will be rationed. If you're 
 retired and living past normal life expectency, *no major surgery or 
 expensive health care for you*! Just take these pills and enjoy the ride. It 
 will be your duty to cross over. They are planning councilors for the 
 elderly. Wow! no more social security or medical bills for that one!


We also spend a lot of unnecessary money on people with the Gay
Plague.  We will save a lot when we stop doing this.  If you want to
contract HIV, then have the money to pay for your treatment.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindsight, cutting edge meditation research

2009-07-24 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:49 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
 
  Does this guy have public health proposal as a plan to reduce non- 
  meditation? Pay people to meditate like David Lynch Foundation or  
  Howard Settle? Given all the worthy research and thot about it, what  
  would be his policy initiatives towards more mindfulness?
 
 For children, innerkids.org but also mindfulness is taught in most  
 major hospitals in the US and abroad. HH the Dalai Lama has requested  
 he and other scientists do what religion, theistic and non-theistic,  
 have failed to do, and bring peace by creating a non-sectarian  
 meditation method or methods for the masses. See:
 
 http://home.earthlink.net/~vajranatha/Site_6/Movie.html
 
 (requires Quicktime)
 
 
  Teach it systematically in public schools to each generation and rid  
  the world of non-meditation generation by generation?
 
 Already being done.
 
 
  He's a scientist with no apparent affiliation other than UCLA. Just  
  as mental health policy, he might be able to get away with it.  
  Evidently would change the world. I wish him well.
 
 He's affiliated with the Mind and Life Institute, probably the most  
 important scientific effort ever regarding meditation and includes  
 some of the finest scientific minds on the planet. He's also  
 affiliated with the Garrison Institute which helps with the  
 intersection of contemplation and engaged action in the world. He's  
 also involved in yearly meditation retreats that introduce meditation  
 to scientists.
 
 http://www.mindandlife.org/
 
 http://www.garrisoninstitute.org/home.php


These 2 organizations sound wonderful - and also remind me of what I thought 
MMY was going to be able to do over time with his plans and ideas.  It may be 
rationalization, but I do feel that MMY and the TMO created a softening and 
more aware world and scientific culture which is now ready to accept meditation 
and the programs being offered by the Buddhist way.  Thank goodness someone as 
grounded, practical and compassionate  as HHTDL is around, and he is willing to 
be honest.  Science is now on board, and the technology is now there to really 
do some meaningful research on meditators.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindsight, cutting edge meditation research

2009-07-24 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:49 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
  
   Does this guy have public health proposal as a plan to reduce non- 
   meditation? Pay people to meditate like David Lynch Foundation or  
   Howard Settle? Given all the worthy research and thot about it, what  
   would be his policy initiatives towards more mindfulness?
  
  For children, innerkids.org but also mindfulness is taught in most  
  major hospitals in the US and abroad. HH the Dalai Lama has requested  
  he and other scientists do what religion, theistic and non-theistic,  
  have failed to do, and bring peace by creating a non-sectarian  
  meditation method or methods for the masses. See:
  
  http://home.earthlink.net/~vajranatha/Site_6/Movie.html
  
  (requires Quicktime)
  
  
   Teach it systematically in public schools to each generation and rid  
   the world of non-meditation generation by generation?
  
  Already being done.
  
  
   He's a scientist with no apparent affiliation other than UCLA. Just  
   as mental health policy, he might be able to get away with it.  
   Evidently would change the world. I wish him well.
  
  He's affiliated with the Mind and Life Institute, probably the most  
  important scientific effort ever regarding meditation and includes  
  some of the finest scientific minds on the planet. He's also  
  affiliated with the Garrison Institute which helps with the  
  intersection of contemplation and engaged action in the world. He's  
  also involved in yearly meditation retreats that introduce meditation  
  to scientists.
  
  http://www.mindandlife.org/
  
  http://www.garrisoninstitute.org/home.php
 
 
 These 2 organizations sound wonderful - and also remind me of what I thought 
 MMY was going to be able to do over time with his plans and ideas.  It may be 
 rationalization, but I do feel that MMY and the TMO created a softening and 
 more aware world and scientific culture which is now ready to accept 
 meditation and the programs being offered by the Buddhist way.  Thank 
 goodness someone as grounded, practical and compassionate  as HHTDL is 
 around, and he is willing to be honest.  Science is now on board, and the 
 technology is now there to really do some meaningful research on meditators.

I meant to add that I hope that these Buddhist research studies end up 
benefitting other styles of meditation - Someone (outside the TMO) may then 
have a model to use to study TM and its effects and we could get some facts 
instead of wishful thinking.




[FairfieldLife] 'Attuning to Buddha'

2009-07-24 Thread Robert
While in Seattle, a couple of years ago...
I had a pretty intense experience with a Shaman there...

Anyway, he told me that one of my 'Guides'...is Buddha.
I said, are you sure, it isn't Maharishi, I asked?
No, Buddha, he said, in his Polish accent...
Though he is Polish, he's pretty good, having studied with a Shaman there and 
here...

Anyway, here is the mantra:

   ~[Secret mantra]~
   Shr  Buddham  Namah  Om

In order to attune to Buddha
Feelings of compassion, detachment, unconditional love, abundance, and so 
on...all of those attributes attributed to Buddha...

Vaj, I believe has studied much in this area, and would be invited to list all 
of the attributes of Buddha, that he is familiar with, or has heard of or 
studied





  


[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Attuning to Buddha'

2009-07-24 Thread yifuxero
---http://sferadharmy.pl/english/Hsuan_Hua.jpeg


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote:

 While in Seattle, a couple of years ago...
 I had a pretty intense experience with a Shaman there...
 
 Anyway, he told me that one of my 'Guides'...is Buddha.
 I said, are you sure, it isn't Maharishi, I asked?
 No, Buddha, he said, in his Polish accent...
 Though he is Polish, he's pretty good, having studied with a Shaman there and 
 here...
 
 Anyway, here is the mantra:
 
~[Secret mantra]~
Shr  Buddham  Namah  Om
 
 In order to attune to Buddha
 Feelings of compassion, detachment, unconditional love, abundance, and so 
 on...all of those attributes attributed to Buddha...
 
 Vaj, I believe has studied much in this area, and would be invited to list 
 all of the attributes of Buddha, that he is familiar with, or has heard of or 
 studied





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama calls officer Crowley and makes statement on Gates issue

2009-07-24 Thread raunchydog
Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police.
http://tinyurl.com/ywgfxn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8feature=related



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindsight, cutting edge meditation research

2009-07-24 Thread yifuxero
--Results will be superficial window dressing due to widespread potential 
opposition by Christian Fundamenalists.

- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:49 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
   
Does this guy have public health proposal as a plan to reduce non- 
meditation? Pay people to meditate like David Lynch Foundation or  
Howard Settle? Given all the worthy research and thot about it, what  
would be his policy initiatives towards more mindfulness?
   
   For children, innerkids.org but also mindfulness is taught in most  
   major hospitals in the US and abroad. HH the Dalai Lama has requested  
   he and other scientists do what religion, theistic and non-theistic,  
   have failed to do, and bring peace by creating a non-sectarian  
   meditation method or methods for the masses. See:
   
   http://home.earthlink.net/~vajranatha/Site_6/Movie.html
   
   (requires Quicktime)
   
   
Teach it systematically in public schools to each generation and rid  
the world of non-meditation generation by generation?
   
   Already being done.
   
   
He's a scientist with no apparent affiliation other than UCLA. Just  
as mental health policy, he might be able to get away with it.  
Evidently would change the world. I wish him well.
   
   He's affiliated with the Mind and Life Institute, probably the most  
   important scientific effort ever regarding meditation and includes  
   some of the finest scientific minds on the planet. He's also  
   affiliated with the Garrison Institute which helps with the  
   intersection of contemplation and engaged action in the world. He's  
   also involved in yearly meditation retreats that introduce meditation  
   to scientists.
   
   http://www.mindandlife.org/
   
   http://www.garrisoninstitute.org/home.php
  
  
  These 2 organizations sound wonderful - and also remind me of what I 
  thought MMY was going to be able to do over time with his plans and ideas.  
  It may be rationalization, but I do feel that MMY and the TMO created a 
  softening and more aware world and scientific culture which is now ready to 
  accept meditation and the programs being offered by the Buddhist way.  
  Thank goodness someone as grounded, practical and compassionate  as HHTDL 
  is around, and he is willing to be honest.  Science is now on board, and 
  the technology is now there to really do some meaningful research on 
  meditators.
 
 I meant to add that I hope that these Buddhist research studies end up 
 benefitting other styles of meditation - Someone (outside the TMO) may then 
 have a model to use to study TM and its effects and we could get some facts 
 instead of wishful thinking.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum Theory of Reality

2009-07-24 Thread guyfawkes91
 Don't git yourself hung up waiting on just a bozon or whatever.
 
  
If the Higgs boson doesn't show up then super-symmetric particle theories will 
have to be junked. If super-symmetric theories are junked then so are 
super-symmetric string theories, including Hagelin's favorite variant. The 
implication would then be that there's an exact correlation between the 
structure of Vedic literature and a theory of physics which has turned out to 
be garbage. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Racial profiling and the Gates case

2009-07-24 Thread gullible fool

 
When Obama commented on this during his speech the other night, I had the 
thought How come so much news of worldwide interest happens within two miles 
of my home? Is it that The Hub of the Universe thing?
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Fri, 7/24/09, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com wrote:


From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Racial profiling and the Gates case
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:08 PM









On Jul 24, 2009, at 3:48 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:


Here is what is confusing me about the Gates case.

I have heard commentators say that Gates was racially profiled by the 
policeman who came to his home.  Although Gates may have been profiled by the 
neighbor who made the initial call to police/911 that started this whole thing 
off, there certainly wasn't any racial profiling done on the part of the police 
officer that went to the house.

Why?  

Because race wasn't a consideration in determining whether Gates had 
committed an illegal act. The cop was already looking for a black male, as 
described by the neighbor.  Had a crime been committed and a black was stopped 
by a policeman on the street near where the crime was committed solely because 
of his skin color then, yes, this would have been racial profiling.  But in 
this case ONLY blacks were suspected because that is what the identity of the 
suspect was described as.



I sort of agree with shemp... I must be feeling worse than I thought.
What it definitely is, though, is a sad comment on our times
and our sense of community.  His own neighbor didn't recognize
him?  How sad is that.



Sal






  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindsight, cutting edge meditation research

2009-07-24 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 waybac...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:49 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
   
Does this guy have public health proposal as a plan to reduce non- 
meditation? Pay people to meditate like David Lynch Foundation or  
Howard Settle? Given all the worthy research and thot about it, what  
would be his policy initiatives towards more mindfulness?
   
   For children, innerkids.org but also mindfulness is taught in most  
   major hospitals in the US and abroad. HH the Dalai Lama has requested  
   he and other scientists do what religion, theistic and non-theistic,  
   have failed to do, and bring peace by creating a non-sectarian  
   meditation method or methods for the masses. See:
   
   http://home.earthlink.net/~vajranatha/Site_6/Movie.html
   
   (requires Quicktime)
   
   
Teach it systematically in public schools to each generation and rid  
the world of non-meditation generation by generation?
   
   Already being done.
   
   
He's a scientist with no apparent affiliation other than UCLA. Just  
as mental health policy, he might be able to get away with it.  
Evidently would change the world. I wish him well.
   
   He's affiliated with the Mind and Life Institute, probably the most  
   important scientific effort ever regarding meditation and includes  
   some of the finest scientific minds on the planet. He's also  
   affiliated with the Garrison Institute which helps with the  
   intersection of contemplation and engaged action in the world. He's  
   also involved in yearly meditation retreats that introduce meditation  
   to scientists.
   
   http://www.mindandlife.org/
   
   http://www.garrisoninstitute.org/home.php
  
  
  These 2 organizations sound wonderful - and also remind me of what I 
  thought MMY was going to be able to do over time with his plans and ideas.  
  It may be rationalization, but I do feel that MMY and the TMO created a 
  softening and more aware world and scientific culture which is now ready to 
  accept meditation and the programs being offered by the Buddhist way.  
  Thank goodness someone as grounded, practical and compassionate  as HHTDL 
  is around, and he is willing to be honest.  Science is now on board, and 
  the technology is now there to really do some meaningful research on 
  meditators.
 
 I meant to add that I hope that these Buddhist research studies end up 
 benefitting other styles of meditation - Someone (outside the TMO) may then 
 have a model to use to study TM and its effects and we could get some facts 
 instead of wishful thinking.


This is extremely interesting.
Is the TM research really that bad?  I am told it is quite good actually.  Bell 
shaped curve that is pretty good. Some bad stuff originally but some really 
good stuff too that came on.

So is this Siegel guy collaborating at all with Hagelin and folks at 
MUM on this kind of study?  Or are the TMOs, outliers?  Seems in looking that 
this guy is pretty universal.  What do the TMO'ers say about this stuff?

Just wondering if they have met with this guy Siegel or UCLA? Communicated?

-D in FF