date:20110727

MZ,



One of the great things about controlling your own show
is that you control the episode numbers. Obviously 7 has
your name on it. I'm sure many would love to hear
your responses now and we'll worry about back filling later.

This link will give you examples of Proust Confessions Questions and 
Confidences Questions. You could take 20 of these and give the answers
or alternatively take the road less travelled and just give 20 answers
and watch your fans on FFL fill in some fascinating (and maybe
not so fascinating questions). Don't make me beg, I have to do something
till we get started on that thing we can't talk about any more. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proust_Questionnaire

[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)

Would the question be?



"What has none of the entertainment value of the audio book "The Moor's Last 
Sign"?



From: seventhray1 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:44:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)


  
Got a question for you Bob, if you don't mind.  The family returned recently 
from a vacation out west.  From Snowmass Co. we went to Zion Nat'l Park, then 
to the Grand Canyon, then to Bryce Canyon, then back to Snowmass.  (and to and 
from Denver) And what kept the three kids from fighting too much (and the wife 
and me entertained),  was  fifteen hours of listening to "Rebecca" by Daphne 
DuMaurier.  I know you are kind of a stickler for what constitutes good 
fiction, but I have to say that we were really captivated by the book.  And her 
descriptions might possibly be considered to be "excessively loquacious" but I 
thought they created a vivid picture. I was  a little disappointed by the 
ending, but everything else worked for us.  The other audio books we have 
enjoyed while traveling are  books by Dave Barry and Ridley Pearson.  Very 
enjoyable.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> I apologize in advance for the "excessively loquacious" nature of this post,Â 
> 
> I asked the wife what that meant and she said: "If you don't want to beÂ 
> thought of a pompous ass, just say you're being a "Chatty Cathy".
> 
> Ravi,
> 
> I was thrilled when you took the time
> to answer my post a second time. In fact,
> I was so thrilled I took your advice andÂ 
> watched your interview on BatGap. I was not disappointed!Â 
> It tookÂ all-the limited vessel, that I am to take in just a small
> fraction of the illumination you and Rick shared
> in the interview.Â 
> 
> It happened like aÂ thunderbolt!!!Â 
> It was like the ugly head of my Kundalini
> snarled and almost gave me whip lash as my
 heart
> chakra blossomed and the illumination poured inÂ 
> like a cool spring on a hot summers day.Â 
> 
> Of course youÂ know to what I refer because as we both know you set theÂ 
> whole lilaÂ up (not Ricks cat-as much as I love Rick, I can promise
> you there will be no Dan Rather moments of letting half the screen
> "go black" on ZomGas. I thought your look of "what the f**k" was fully 
> justified)
> sorry where was I? Oh yes the "lila" you set in motion. I get it my friend 
> and as
> you hoped I'm ready to grab the proverbial "Brahma bull" by the horns.Â 
> As you know, what I'm referring to is that thousand petal-ed gem you plantedÂ 
> for meÂ at 24:10 into the interview. That koan or Thor's hammer that broke my 
> final
> resistance, where you opened up and explained everything we need to know 
> about "Zombies".Â 
> As
 muchÂ as I hate to distract anyone from MZ's post, I have to say Ned Wynn's 
email exchange
> on Big M's short shorts has nothing on this. When i heard and saw you speak 
> "truth
> to power" (after all it is Ricks show) about Zombies I knew what you had been 
> saying to me
> all a long. For a clearer explanation please check out this clip on you tube. 
> Its about one ofÂ 
> my favourite hero's in the history of cinema, General George Armstrong Custer 
> in "Little Big Man".
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejssO2XqFcI
> 
> So I now understand you want me to go ahead and complete the 
> questionnaireÂ for you
> based on the ample content you have soÂ graciously provided.
> 
> For starters, I've decided to take your lead and take a stand
> and use an acronymÂ (imitation being the "...sincerest form of flattery")
> So henceforthÂ Zombie...will be
 called:Â ZomGas with the followingÂ 
> being our first show.Â 
> 
> ZomGas 1: (Guest Ravi Yogi)
> 
> 1. Your favourite qualities in a woman?
> 
> A woman who loves me like my mother and always wears Â whiteÂ 
> 
> 2. Your favourite qualities in a man?
> 
> 
> See answer #1.
> 
> 3. Your favourite virtue?
> 
> Selfless devotion to my next female disciple.Â 
> 
> 4. Your favourite occupation?Â 
> 
> Being interviewed on ZomGas.
> 
> 5. What do you appreciate the most in your friends?
> 
> Their listening skills.
> 
> 6.Â Your main fault?
> 
> Loving too much.
> 
> 7. Your idea of happiness?
> 
> Reading WN's posts.
> 
> 8.Â Your idea of misery?
> 
> Reading Turq'sposts.
> 
>
 9.Â If not yourself, who would you be?
> 
> Ravi Yogi Yogi (Yogi), the third honorificÂ needed to avoid beingÂ 
> confused with that other glorious guy that uses a doubleÂ handle
> to avoid being confused with the Sitar player.
> 
> 10.Â Where would you like to live?
> 
> San Jose
> 
> 11.Â Your favourite colour?
> 
> See #1
> 
> 12.Â Your favourite heroes in fiction?
> 
> Lord Rama
> 
> 13.Â What characters in history do you most dislike?
> 
> Gandhi and MLK.
> 
> 14.Â Your favourite names?
> 
> Ravi and Yogi.
> 
> 15.Â What I hate the most?
> 
> Posters who won't take a stand.
> 
> 16.Â The military event I admire the most?
> 
> The MahabharataÂ 
> 
> 17.Â

[FairfieldLife] Re: alternative theory regarding MZ

"the self-same principle that Ravi was (condescendingly, I must say, (it
takes one to know one)) trying to explain to me way back when."
Mark, I have been (intentionally) condescending to others ("low vibe"
writer types) but not when I was responding to you, sorry if it appeared
otherwise. Your heart-centeredness  became evident to me as you posted
more. A beautiful post BTW.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> Yes, Jim (how long does it take, here, to put names to email
addresses?), I, too, find this true and beautiful, with one possible
exception.  The heart, the true heart (IME, E & U), has no need
whatsoever for story gratification.  The true heart, the lion heart, is
a far better organ of perception/knower than the mind.  It's the heart,
or hearts, of the inner frozen children that need constant soothing, the
"heart", if you will, of the ego complex, of our woundedness and our
pain, or I guess one could say, and perhaps more simply and truly, and,
in so doing dissolve this "exception," the wounded parts of our heart. 
It's the stories that are the defense mechanisms that help us in our
long, misguided efforts to keep our pain away.  Of course, this may not
apply to MZ, or any other particular individual, but, I believe, it
applies to most of us.
>
> What may more aptly apply to MZ (for all the profound things that have
occurred between us, and, yes, they truly are profound, just how much so
I have yet to see, I really do not yet know him well, as I have not had
the time to follow his suggestion and read all that he has written here,
nor do I think I will need to) is that he is using his intellect to
sincerely advance his spiritual growth through the towering edifice
created by the west's paramount religious institution (at least in terms
of it's effect on the west) and, yes, some of the world's purest souls
and highest thinkers (perhaps I will have to look into Aquinas),
combined with the highly developed qualities of his intuition (for me,
there's something I call inner knowing that is distinct from and goes
beyond intuition).  How many have spent lifetimes lost in this structure
(of course, he would "know" they are not lost but are getting found,
and, perhaps, the only ones getting found)?  We agree, I think, that the
mind, the intellect, no matter how developed and pure must always fall
short of true knowing.  The truth of things is "unfathomable" and better
known by the heart.  To know it one must lay the mind and everything
else aside and become it.  To do this, one must put oneself through
whatever it takes to strip everything else away and become the truly,
truly, truly empty vessel.
>
> And, to this: the universe within us will never accept any story as
the the ultimate truth, I would add that the Satguru, God and the
universe, both the universe within and without (which you all may, of
course, have already agreed are one, though I still find it useful to
distinguish them) and, sometimes, the good guru, will totally knock the
shit out of us, if we force it/him/her to, the self-same principle that
Ravi was (condescendingly, I must say, (it takes one to know one))
trying to explain to me way back when.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Resume/A Job

I would second Bhairitu's advice on removing any references that point
to your age, so no photo, no graduation dates, removing old and
non-relevant work experiences. Age based discrimination is probably on
of the subtle discrimination that seems to be unavoidable.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> And thank you to everyone who was kind enough to give me advice.  I
will start going through them soon but want to retain some of my 50.
>
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:23 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
>
> > Thanks to both of you to help others reading this thread!
> > These tips will help me a lot too!
> > I am grateful. : )
> > Thanks to Mark for being bold enough to post a resume'.
> > The world is a good place!
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@
wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you for this great advice. Â I'm glad to hear that pics
aren't the way to go - seems to promote discrimination to some degree.
Â I agree with the "down on flashy" advice, but simple, clean
structure is always appreciated - hence the nudge to Mark on that. Â
In my business...it was a requirement.
> > > Its good practice to have lunch with other professional friends
and practice how to network. Â I went to a class once called
"marketing for engineers"...not always a primary skill of these types of
thinkers, but good to practice. Â And, everyone I know who has gotten
a job of late, hasn't gotten it by sending out resumes, but through the
grace of a contact that knew they could do the job, as you mentioned.
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Bhairitu noozguru@
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:28 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well as someone who had to pour through resumes to hire people I
have my
> > >
> > > two bits too. Too me a flashy looking resume didn't mean anything
more
> > >
> > > than the applicant had "a flashy looking resume." It really tell
me
> > >
> > > anything as to whether they could do the job or not. One of my
best
> > >
> > > hires was an engineer whose resume was about 5 unformatted pages
long
> > >
> > > and mainly just a dump of everything he had done. If HR had done
> > >
> > > filtering for me it his would have gone into the trash can. But he
came
> > >
> > > in and had a program that showed his skills which was what we were
> > >
> > > looking for.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A couple thoughts on Mark's, contrary to what's been said due to
Mark's
> > >
> > > age NO PICTURE. In fact hide age as much as possible. This is
> > >
> > > especially true if the hiring manager is half Mark's age. Put the
> > >
> > > degrees earned in but no dates. Also limit the employment trail to
a
> > >
> > > decade or so. Fool 'em into thinking you're a youngster so you get
an
> > >
> > > interview.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On networking, some people can do it and do it well. But others
can
> > >
> > > not.. But that doesn't mean they won't be any good at the job.
There
> > >
> > > are "people people" and there are "things people." For some jobs
you
> > >
> > > may definitely need a people person but for others like computer
> > >
> > > programming it isn't so important.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some people interview well and others don't. You can easily wind
up
> > >
> > > with someone who is flashy at the interview and can't do the job.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Right now the employment scene is just plain silly. Even back in
the
> > >
> > > day we were warned about "gaps in employment". But if I had to
apply
> > >
> > > for the job I held I might not have even gotten an interview. The
> > >
> > > reason I was given the job was that I was an outside contractor
for the
> > >
> > > company and they knew my work. So the interview consisted of "you
want
> > >
> > > the job" and "when can you start?" I interviewed people who took
some
> > >
> > > time out to learn new things. I found that a good sign. HR often
had
> > >
> > > lame ideas anyway. This article sums up the issue and do read the
> > >
> > > comments. They will tell you more about the job scene than the
article:
> > >
> > >
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/business/help-wanted-ads-exclude-the-l\
ong-term-jobless.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've been saying for years that putting well educated and
experienced
> > >
> > > people out of work for anything more than short time is a recipe
for
> > >
> > > revolution.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/27/2011 01:04 AM, Denise Evans wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Mark:
> > >
> > > > Lookin good - adventurous of you to post it here :) I have a
friend who's a VP in a consulting firm that gave me some advice on my
resume...
> > >
> > > > 1) Use an up-to-date format and fontI would block yours a
bit differently and add a few "rules/lines" t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Yeah regardless of Mark's opinions he seems a very heart centered
person, I'm sure that David guy spun his comments as mostly anti-TM.
Criticizing Mark's views is one thing, but regardless of his views we
should wish him luck on the sandals and the job.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
>
>
> Turq,
>
> Everyone is entitled to their opinion... you, me, Mark, etc.
> As I read posts and get to know people on here,
> it becomes obvious how a particular person is going to respond.
> Again, people on here seem to fit into two camps, each with some bias.
Despite
> the way I composed my posts, I don't feel I fit into one
> particular camp or another as your responses reflect. I was
> just pointing out things that I felt were . inconsistent.
> I guess there was some value because my posts did spur quite
> a lot of response both supportive and non-supportive. Nothing
> wrong with the debate even though that was not my intent. I
> recognize that people have strong opinions both pro and con
> about Maharishi and the Movement, and that's going to
> affect their take on what I said whether or not I made a valid point.
> I'm confident Mark is the same Mark I use to know in the 70s
> and as such is a good person. My intent was to point out
> what he did, not comment on who he is. I had an issue with what
> he said and was motivated to say something about it, to voice
> my opinion. I'm sure Mark's heart is the same as it was when
> I knew him 40 years ago. Even though I disagree with what he
> has done, he was, and likely still is, a good person.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > Ted,
> >
> > I wanted to write to congratulate you on your posts about
> > Mark so far, but also to chide you a bit for not being as
> > On The Program as you should be, TM-organization-wise.
> >
> > In your first posts on the subject, you correctly pointed
> > out that Mark being out of work was entirely his fault for
> > not following every instruction given him by Maharishi, and
> > that it wasn't related in any way to the 14+ million other
> > Americans who are currently in the same position.
> >
> > Then, exhibiting the TLC (Tough Love Compassion) that Maha-
> > rishi taught, you did everything in your power to prevent
> > him from selling an asset that many (including many strong
> > TMers) would find valuable. Again, I congratulate you for
> > that, because anyone who says anything less than compli-
> > mentary about Maharishi MUST be punished, and severely.
> > I'm sure that many lurkers here (and many pro-TM posters)
> > joined you in hoping that Mark would starve to death in
> > some dark alley, the way that any such heretic deserved
> > to do.
> >
> > Now, in this post, you try again to keep him from finding
> > a job, which is admirable, but in my opinion not *nearly*
> > enough. Mark must be made to PAY for speaking his mind,
> > and speaking openly to a filmmaker about Maharishi, and
> > telling the truth. This is as heretical an offense today
> > as it was in the Middle Ages, and IMO should be punished
> > the same way.
> >
> > As one of the Inquisitors of the Age Of Enlightenment, I
> > recommend that you stop all this polite "sweet truth"
> > pussyfooting around and just cut to the chase. Burn Mark
> > at the stake. If possible, in front of a large cheering
> > crowd of your fellow devout TMers.
> >
> > I did a little Googling, and have found that Builder's
> > Emporium is having a sale this week on tar, pitch, and
> > large bundles of firewood. I would take advantage of
> > this if I were you, because in today's economy you might
> > not be able to count on even Invincibility to keep you
> > employed, and thus able to buy the "tools of your trade."
> >
> > When you perform this holy yagya of purification, don't
> > forget to bring the proper clean white handkerchief and
> > a piece of fresh fruit to throw into the flames along
> > with him. You might also want to consider adding the
> > following verse to the puja itself: "Offering Mark to
> > the flames of liberation, I bow down." I'm pretty
> > sure that Maharishi wouldn't mind.
> >
> > Turq
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> > >
> > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > >
> > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I
> > > thought was the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the
> > > sandals of a man (Maharishi) who was criticized by the
> > > seller(Mark)in a film (David Wants To Fly).
> > >  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it
> > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

Thanks to Barry for initiating this thread, I have been enjoying
everyone's experiences on this thread. Being a lover of Osho and his
discourses which always ended with profane, irreverent jokes, I always
have a blast myself. Unlike my online persona here I always mock myself
in my personal interactions - my jokes of being high on Amma, high on
divine vodka, or being bipolar, paranoid schizophrenic always shock and
amuse people at Amma's.
I skip the spiritual and DSM references at work, but really stretch the
limits with my playful, sarcastic humor. When my supervisor remarked
that I was very funny, I remarked seriously that I have always been
accused of being funny and that I deny these allegations, which only
amused them more. With reference to a nasty colleague at work, I
remarked that she was probably sex deprived and I could sleep with her
to in the interest of team spirit (she's not pretty BTW :-)). Of course
I manage to piss off quite a few. I have plenty more but will save
everyone from a long post.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
wrote:
>
>
> Trying to think if I had any interesting experiences in the initiation
> room. Really none that I can think of.  I did initiate a guy with the
> last name Finer during the Washington campaign.  We both got a kick
> about my continued talk about the mantra becoming "finer"
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" raunchydog@
> wrote:
> >
> > I had a guy show up for initiation smelling of alcohol and probably
> drunk. I wasn't sure if he was sober enough to be initiated but I
> initiated him. He came for the first night of checking smelling of
> alcohol. I asked him to see me after the meeting and he ducked out.
> Never saw him again. Poor bastard.
> >
> > John Lyons was a beautiful man when I heard him give an introductory
> lecture in 1972. He was so luscious I was ready to start TM before he
> said a word. Then he broke the news: Two weeks waiting for using
> recreational drugs. Really? I was disappointed but unlike the drunk I
> initiated, I decided to have a good experience and wait the two weeks.
I
> told my boyfriend I was going to start TM and had to give up pot. He
> said, "I'll teach you to meditate. All you have to do is rub your eyes
> and you'll see colors." Sex with him was definitely better than his
> advice. I started TM and he dumped me for another girl, a girl with
> kaleidoscope eyes.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I thought I'd ask the question, since the subject of
> > > humor or the lack thereof along spiritual paths is still
> > > on my mind. There was a time, back before fun was declared
> > > Off The Program, when funny TMO stories abounded. Here are
> > > two of mine, both puja-related. Neither happened to me, but
> > > they are funny. At least to me.
> > >
> > > In the first incident, a male TM teacher was initiating a
> > > female student, and at the part of the puja where one waves
> > > a little dish of flaming camphor around. A fiery piece of
> > > the camphor fell out of the dish and onto the larger tray
> > > in which he'd placed his entire supply of camphor. A wall
> > > of flame erupted from the tray, several feet high. Thinking
> > > quickly, he looked around the room and found a large empty
> > > flower pot, which he upended over the flaming tray and the
> > > now-scorched white tablecloth, continued the puja, and
> > > instructed the student. At the end of her first meditation,
> > > he said "Slowly open the eyes," and then "It was good?," or
> > > whatever it was that we were supposed to say.
> > >
> > > She replied, "Yes, the meditation itself was good, but I
> > > found myself thinking about when you made the table explode
> > > into flame. Could we do that part again?"
> > >
> > > The second incident also involves a male TM teacher and
> > > a female student, in this case a very attractive one. She
> > > arrived on time for her initiation, bearing the fresh
> > > flowers and fruit she'd been told to bring. But while
> > > preparing the puja table, the initiator noticed that
> > > instead of the clean white handkerchief she'd been told
> > > to bring, she had brought a large white sheet. Folding
> > > it as small as he could he performed the puja and taught
> > > her TM and everything was great.
> > >
> > > At the end of the first night of checking, still curious,
> > > he asked the woman why she'd brought a sheet instead of
> > > a handkerchief. Blushing furiously, she told the initiator
> > > that the night before the instruction she had gone out to
> > > a bar and had met a guy and mentioned to him that she was
> > > going to learn TM the next day.
> > >
> > > He said, "Oh yeah, TM. I've learned that."
> > >
> > > She asked, naturally curious, "So what are the fruit and
> > > the flowers and the handkerchief I've been asked to bring
> > > for?
> > >
> > > The guy said, "Well, the fruit and flowers are kind of
> > > symbolic of

[FairfieldLife] Rowing to Doha-Scene 4-(was conflict in fiction)

INT. DICK BOWMAN'S HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN IOWA CORNFIELD



Dick, The Brunette, Agents Costa and Agent Hairwellwalk into 
a large living room in the Bowman residence. The walls are 
covered in posters of  men and woman of many ages,  dressed in
clothing from numerous cultures, some smiling and attractive- while others
look like escapees from the space cantina in STAR WARS. Agent Costa
stops in front of an image of a famous young female with a Scientology Logo
behind her.

AGENT COSTA
Who are they?

DICK
Guests I've interviewed about their awakening.

AGENT HAIRWELL
Who cares who they are. We're on to you Bowman 
and your cozy little forum. 

The Brunette smiles.

DICK
What are you talking about.

AGENT COSTA
Chris, let me handle this. Mr. Bowman
we have reports from a group calling themselves
"PURITY OF THE TEACHING". They claim you and a 
number of your forum posters are conspiring 
to help a foriegn government take over News
Corp, particularly the Wall Street Journal.

BRUNETTE (laughing out loud)

Dickie, I didn't think you had it in you. 

AGENT HAIRWELL (Glaring at the Brunette, long enough to look at all of her)
This isn't funny lady, your husband is accused of some serious crimes.

BRUNETTE
He's not my husband, he's my TM teacher. My husband is in the hospital.

AGENT HAIRWELL
TM, what the h*ll is that, sounds anti-Christian to me.

BRUNETTE
Its a technique for improving social behaviour, so obviously it
has nothing to do with Christianity. 

Hairwellstarts moving toward the Brunette.

DICK
This is ridiculous. I moderate an open 
forum for individuals interested in 
spiritual ideas. Granted, it gets a little weird 
from time to time but there is nothing subversive about it.

AGENT HAIRWELL
Then you won't mind helping us 
go under cover and monitor some of
this harmless posting.

DICK
I certainty do mind. You're familiar
with the first amendment and the establishment 
clause?

Suddenly Dick spins around and his face is pressed 
against the window. We hear the sound of cuffs tighteningshut.

AGENT HAIRWELL
And are you familiar with the Patriot Act 
you dildo? 

The Brunette runs toward Dick who's hands are cuffed 
with his face being pressed against the 
window by Agent Hairwell. 

BRUNETTE

You sexist pig.


AGENT COSTA
Chris, slow down.

Through the window, from Dick's POV, we see Terry and the Zebra, with the
unicorn horn, lift off the ground and begin to assent toward the heavens. Terry 
cuts loose
with his bean shooter and we hear the rapid repeat of hard beans hitting the 
window.
The sound of another set of cuffs closing fills the room.

CUT TO:

The spacecraft hovers over the Bowman farmhouse. Through the ship left windows 
we see Shankar, NN and Wally their faces pressed against the glass. 

CLOSE UP on the right ship window we see Maharishi with a big smile on his 
face. 
We pull back to see the Zebra Unicorn with Terry on its back hovering outside 
Maharishi's
window.

We hear a deep poetic voice, as if over a loud speakers:

"Ash-had al-la ilaha llah"

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?


Trying to think if I had any interesting experiences in the initiation
room. Really none that I can think of.  I did initiate a guy with the
last name Finer during the Washington campaign.  We both got a kick
about my continued talk about the mantra becoming "finer"


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" 
wrote:
>
> I had a guy show up for initiation smelling of alcohol and probably
drunk. I wasn't sure if he was sober enough to be initiated but I
initiated him. He came for the first night of checking smelling of
alcohol. I asked him to see me after the meeting and he ducked out.
Never saw him again. Poor bastard.
>
> John Lyons was a beautiful man when I heard him give an introductory
lecture in 1972. He was so luscious I was ready to start TM before he
said a word. Then he broke the news: Two weeks waiting for using
recreational drugs. Really? I was disappointed but unlike the drunk I
initiated, I decided to have a good experience and wait the two weeks. I
told my boyfriend I was going to start TM and had to give up pot. He
said, "I'll teach you to meditate. All you have to do is rub your eyes
and you'll see colors." Sex with him was definitely better than his
advice. I started TM and he dumped me for another girl, a girl with
kaleidoscope eyes.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > I thought I'd ask the question, since the subject of
> > humor or the lack thereof along spiritual paths is still
> > on my mind. There was a time, back before fun was declared
> > Off The Program, when funny TMO stories abounded. Here are
> > two of mine, both puja-related. Neither happened to me, but
> > they are funny. At least to me.
> >
> > In the first incident, a male TM teacher was initiating a
> > female student, and at the part of the puja where one waves
> > a little dish of flaming camphor around. A fiery piece of
> > the camphor fell out of the dish and onto the larger tray
> > in which he'd placed his entire supply of camphor. A wall
> > of flame erupted from the tray, several feet high. Thinking
> > quickly, he looked around the room and found a large empty
> > flower pot, which he upended over the flaming tray and the
> > now-scorched white tablecloth, continued the puja, and
> > instructed the student. At the end of her first meditation,
> > he said "Slowly open the eyes," and then "It was good?," or
> > whatever it was that we were supposed to say.
> >
> > She replied, "Yes, the meditation itself was good, but I
> > found myself thinking about when you made the table explode
> > into flame. Could we do that part again?"
> >
> > The second incident also involves a male TM teacher and
> > a female student, in this case a very attractive one. She
> > arrived on time for her initiation, bearing the fresh
> > flowers and fruit she'd been told to bring. But while
> > preparing the puja table, the initiator noticed that
> > instead of the clean white handkerchief she'd been told
> > to bring, she had brought a large white sheet. Folding
> > it as small as he could he performed the puja and taught
> > her TM and everything was great.
> >
> > At the end of the first night of checking, still curious,
> > he asked the woman why she'd brought a sheet instead of
> > a handkerchief. Blushing furiously, she told the initiator
> > that the night before the instruction she had gone out to
> > a bar and had met a guy and mentioned to him that she was
> > going to learn TM the next day.
> >
> > He said, "Oh yeah, TM. I've learned that."
> >
> > She asked, naturally curious, "So what are the fruit and
> > the flowers and the handkerchief I've been asked to bring
> > for?
> >
> > The guy said, "Well, the fruit and flowers are kind of
> > symbolic offerings used by the teacher in the ceremony
> > that precedes the initiation. The handkerchief is to
> > cover yourself with when you both get naked."
> >
> > The funniest thing, if you think about it, is that she
> > believed him, and showed up anyway.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)

Well I could do sanyama on that monkey tail post.  That was a keeper if
ever there was one.  I'm also enjoying the Landau dialogues.  I admit
back around 283700 the Judy posting were kind of like a splash of cold
water.  Reality check sort of thing.  Can't really give Nabby or Richard
much time.  Of course Ravi is a sure stop along the way.  Too bad about
MZ.  Just can't abide that action.  But can sometimes catch the high
points on a reply post.  I'm making my way thr0ugh it, but it's just
about bed time, and I still have to take a shower.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
>
> To make it easy you should divide the catching up it into 4 equal
parts,
> one Judy - Curtis posts, masked zebra posts part1, masked zebra posts
> part 2 (the posts might be a 3 or 4 but the time will the same) and
the
> rest :-)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ravi. I had a week with little internet or phone service. But
> > back at it now, and trying to catch up on my posts. Problem is that
> > we're having a good spell here at FFL, and it's taking some time!
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey just as I was thinking of sending an - "hey where the hell are
> you
> > > Steve?" message, welcome back !!
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

2011-07-27 Thread raunchydog

I had a guy show up for initiation smelling of alcohol and probably drunk. I 
wasn't sure if he was sober enough to be initiated but I initiated him. He came 
for the first night of checking smelling of alcohol. I asked him to see me 
after the meeting and he ducked out. Never saw him again. Poor bastard.

John Lyons was a beautiful man when I heard him give an introductory lecture in 
1972. He was so luscious I was ready to start TM before he said a word. Then he 
broke the news: Two weeks waiting for using recreational drugs. Really? I was 
disappointed but unlike the drunk I initiated, I decided to have a good 
experience and wait the two weeks. I told my boyfriend I was going to start TM 
and had to give up pot. He said, "I'll teach you to meditate. All you have to 
do is rub your eyes and you'll see colors." Sex with him was definitely better 
than his advice. I started TM and he dumped me for another girl, a girl with 
kaleidoscope eyes.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I thought I'd ask the question, since the subject of
> humor or the lack thereof along spiritual paths is still
> on my mind. There was a time, back before fun was declared
> Off The Program, when funny TMO stories abounded. Here are 
> two of mine, both puja-related. Neither happened to me, but
> they are funny. At least to me.
> 
> In the first incident, a male TM teacher was initiating a
> female student, and at the part of the puja where one waves
> a little dish of flaming camphor around. A fiery piece of
> the camphor fell out of the dish and onto the larger tray
> in which he'd placed his entire supply of camphor. A wall
> of flame erupted from the tray, several feet high. Thinking 
> quickly, he looked around the room and found a large empty 
> flower pot, which he upended over the flaming tray and the 
> now-scorched white tablecloth, continued the puja, and 
> instructed the student. At the end of her first meditation, 
> he said "Slowly open the eyes," and then "It was good?," or
> whatever it was that we were supposed to say.
> 
> She replied, "Yes, the meditation itself was good, but I
> found myself thinking about when you made the table explode 
> into flame. Could we do that part again?"
> 
> The second incident also involves a male TM teacher and
> a female student, in this case a very attractive one. She
> arrived on time for her initiation, bearing the fresh 
> flowers and fruit she'd been told to bring. But while 
> preparing the puja table, the initiator noticed that 
> instead of the clean white handkerchief she'd been told
> to bring, she had brought a large white sheet. Folding
> it as small as he could he performed the puja and taught
> her TM and everything was great. 
> 
> At the end of the first night of checking, still curious,
> he asked the woman why she'd brought a sheet instead of
> a handkerchief. Blushing furiously, she told the initiator
> that the night before the instruction she had gone out to
> a bar and had met a guy and mentioned to him that she was
> going to learn TM the next day. 
> 
> He said, "Oh yeah, TM. I've learned that."
> 
> She asked, naturally curious, "So what are the fruit and
> the flowers and the handkerchief I've been asked to bring
> for?
> 
> The guy said, "Well, the fruit and flowers are kind of
> symbolic offerings used by the teacher in the ceremony 
> that precedes the initiation. The handkerchief is to 
> cover yourself with when you both get naked." 
> 
> The funniest thing, if you think about it, is that she
> believed him, and showed up anyway.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)

To make it easy you should divide the catching up it into 4 equal parts,
one Judy - Curtis posts, masked zebra posts part1, masked zebra posts
part 2 (the posts might be a 3 or 4 but the time will the same) and the
rest :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Ravi.  I had a week with little internet or phone service.  But
> back at it now, and trying to catch up on my posts.  Problem is that
> we're having a good spell here at FFL, and it's taking some time!
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote:
> >
> > Hey just as I was thinking of sending an - "hey where the hell are
you
> > Steve?" message, welcome back !!
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)

Thanks Ravi.  I had a week with little internet or phone service.  But
back at it now, and trying to catch up on my posts.  Problem is that
we're having a good spell here at FFL, and it's taking some time!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
>
> Hey just as I was thinking of sending an - "hey where the hell are you
> Steve?" message, welcome back !!
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
> wrote:
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)

Hey just as I was thinking of sending an - "hey where the hell are you
Steve?" message, welcome back !!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" 
wrote:
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inside Scientology


Now there's an idea for a movie.  All fictionalized of course.   Someone
breaks into the headquarters of a cult organization (Scientology), which
has many celebrities as adherents, and removes their personal records
and so begins the story.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eustace10679  wrote:
>
> Reporter Janet Reitman Peers 'Inside Scientology'
>
> Audio for this story from All Things Considered will be available at
approx. 7:00 p.m. ET
>
> July 23, 2011
>
> In the 1930s, L. Ron Hubbard was a pulp fiction writer, best known for
his fantasy and science fiction stories. But after an attempt at
Hollywood screenwriting, Hubbard decided to go a different route.
>
> In 1950, he published Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health,
a self-help book that became a bestseller and launched a new religion.
>
> That religion was Scientology, and six decades since it began, much is
still unclear about the church, its history and its current leader,
David Miscavige, who took over shortly after Hubbard's death.
>
> Journalist Janet Reitman spent more than five years combing through
confidential papers and memos, visiting various Scientology centers and
interviewing church members past and present for her book, Inside
Scientology: The Story of America's Most Secretive Religion.
>
> Reitman tells weekends on All Things Considered host Guy Raz that
under Miscavige the church has grown.
>
> "He has given it a certain mainstream appeal," she says, "[and] he's
put an emphasis on building churches, expanding their physical
presence."
>
> But this expansion has not come without its costs, the author
explains. Miscavige's leadership style has caused some high-ranking
members, including former spokesperson Mike Rinder, to leave and form
their own independent movement.
>
> "He has made Scientology itself very rigid," Reitman says, "and within
the management of Scientology, he's imposed an incredibly punitive
system where people basically live in fear of him."
>
> The Celebrity Factor
>
> Some of the Church's most famous members are celebrities such as Tom
Cruise, John Travolta and Kirstie Alley. Reitmen says these members are
often subjected to a more intense form of "auditing" â" what
Scientologists refer to as "spiritual counseling."
>
> "The members reveal a tremendous amount of personal information," she
explains. "So that stuff is all basically filed away. The innermost
secrets, the most personal secrets, are part of the record of the Church
of Scientology. And, you know, would they release that information if
somebody like Cruise or Travolta decided to leave and denounce the
church? That I think is a credible fear."
>
> Scientology also has been scrutinized for the way it is "militantly
against" psychiatry and psychiatric drugs, Reitman says. The church has
created an alternative drug-treatment program called Narconon.
>
> "The Church of Scientology you know, sort of presents an alternative,
and I'm not sure that alternative is workable," Reitman says. "I think
that alternative can be very harmful depending on how far you go with it
and that's what I think is threatening."
>
> The Church Responds
>
> When given an opportunity to respond, the Church of Scientology sent
NPR an 11-page statement that began: "Ms. Reitman's book is filled with
inaccuracies. It is neither scholarly nor well-researched and bears no
resemblance to an "inside" story."
>
>
http://www.npr.org/2011/07/23/138475723/reporter-janet-reitman-peers-ins\
ide-scientology
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 1 (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)


Got a question for you Bob, if you don't mind.  The family returned
recently from a vacation out west.  From Snowmass Co. we went to Zion
Nat'l Park, then to the Grand Canyon, then to Bryce Canyon, then back to
Snowmass.  (and to and from Denver) And what kept the three kids from
fighting too much (and the wife and me entertained),  was  fifteen hours
of listening to "Rebecca" by Daphne DuMaurier.  I know you are kind of a
stickler for what constitutes good fiction, but I have to say that we
were really captivated by the book.  And her descriptions might possibly
be considered to be "excessively loquacious" but I thought they created
a vivid picture.  I was  a little disappointed by the ending, but
everything else worked for us.  The other audio books we have enjoyed
while traveling are  books by Dave Barry and Ridley Pearson.  Very
enjoyable.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> I apologize in advance for the "excessively loquacious" nature of this
post,Â
>
> I asked the wife what that meant and she said: "If you don't want to
beÂ
> thought of a pompous ass, just say you're being a "Chatty Cathy".
>
> Ravi,
>
> I was thrilled when you took the time
> to answer my post a second time. In fact,
> I was so thrilled I took your advice andÂ
> watched your interview on BatGap. I was not disappointed!Â
> It tookÂ all-the limited vessel, that I am to take in just a small
> fraction of the illumination you and Rick shared
> in the interview.Â
>
> It happened like aÂ thunderbolt!!!Â
> It was like the ugly head of my Kundalini
> snarled and almost gave me whip lash as my heart
> chakra blossomed and the illumination poured inÂ
> like a cool spring on a hot summers day.Â
>
> Of course youÂ know to what I refer because as we both know you set
theÂ
> whole lilaÂ up (not Ricks cat-as much as I love Rick, I can promise
> you there will be no Dan Rather moments of letting half the screen
> "go black" on ZomGas. I thought your look of "what the f**k" was fully
justified)
> sorry where was I? Oh yes the "lila" you set in motion. I get it my
friend and as
> you hoped I'm ready to grab the proverbial "Brahma bull" by the
horns.Â
> As you know, what I'm referring to is that thousand petal-ed gem you
plantedÂ
> for meÂ at 24:10 into the interview. That koan or Thor's hammer
that broke my final
> resistance, where you opened up and explained everything we need to
know about "Zombies".Â
> As muchÂ as I hate to distract anyone from MZ's post, I have to say
Ned Wynn's email exchange
> on Big M's short shorts has nothing on this. When i heard and saw you
speak "truth
> to power" (after all it is Ricks show) about Zombies I knew what you
had been saying to me
> all a long. For a clearer explanation please check out this clip on
you tube. Its about one ofÂ
> my favourite hero's in the history of cinema, General George Armstrong
Custer in "Little Big Man".
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejssO2XqFcI
>
> So I now understand you want me to go ahead and complete the
questionnaireÂ for you
> based on the ample content you have soÂ graciously provided.
>
> For starters, I've decided to take your lead and take a stand
> and use an acronymÂ (imitation being the "...sincerest form of
flattery")
> So henceforthÂ Zombie...will be called:Â ZomGas with the
followingÂ
> being our first show.Â
>
> ZomGas 1: (Guest Ravi Yogi)
>
> 1. Your favourite qualities in a woman?
>
> A woman who loves me like my mother and always wears Â whiteÂ
>
> 2. Your favourite qualities in a man?
>
>
> See answer #1.
>
> 3. Your favourite virtue?
>
> Selfless devotion to my next female disciple.Â
>
> 4. Your favourite occupation?Â
>
> Being interviewed on ZomGas.
>
> 5. What do you appreciate the most in your friends?
>
> Their listening skills.
>
> 6.Â Your main fault?
>
> Loving too much.
>
> 7. Your idea of happiness?
>
> Reading WN's posts.
>
> 8.Â Your idea of misery?
>
> Reading Turq'sposts.
>
> 9.Â If not yourself, who would you be?
>
> Ravi Yogi Yogi (Yogi), the third honorificÂ needed to avoid
beingÂ
> confused with that other glorious guy that uses a doubleÂ handle
> to avoid being confused with the Sitar player.
>
> 10.Â Where would you like to live?
>
> San Jose
>
> 11.Â Your favourite colour?
>
> See #1
>
> 12.Â Your favourite heroes in fiction?
>
> Lord Rama
>
> 13.Â What characters in history do you most dislike?
>
> Gandhi and MLK.
>
> 14.Â Your favourite names?
>
> Ravi and Yogi.
>
> 15.Â What I hate the most?
>
> Posters who won't take a stand.
>
> 16.Â The military event I admire the most?
>
> The MahabharataÂ
>
> 17.Â The natural talent I'd like to be gifted with?
>
> I would like to know more scatological references.
>
> 18.Â What is your present state of mind?
>
> How would I know, I'm not writing this.
>
> 19.Â For what fault have you most toleration?
>
> "excessively loquacious" posting
>
>
> 20.Â Your favourite motto.
>
> Woman, love me like my mother and treat me like a guru and we'll get a
long just fine.
> Â
>
>
> __

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Oh, you're so welcome!  I'm so glad I'm here, for now.  It's been of great 
benefit to me.

On Jul 27, 2011, at 1:52 PM, RoryGoff wrote:

> Now THAT really tickles me! 
> 
> Thank you for Being Here, Mark :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> >
> > This video is priceless, I'd never seen it, thank you, o, all true, with, 
> > yes, of course, one exception, not not-holy, but holy and sexy and 
> > perverted and charming and lovable and criminal and a trillion other 
> > things... We really can put it all together because we really are all there 
> > is, and, more so, that which is beyond.
> > 
> > All together now, all you need is/ stop denying and avoiding everything, 
> > yes, with love. Let's all do that, together, right...
> > 
> > Glad you're enjoying my rants.
> > 
> > m
> 
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword


On Jul 27, 2011, at 1:12 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:16 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > But she didn't spend nearly as much time with M as with R. 
> > > > And, of course, two others who "saw" him fly and disappear. 
> > > 
> > > You can find thousands of people who saw that.
> > 
> > And do you hold it was actual seeing of physical events or 
> > images he was able to fill people's minds with?
> 
> I honestly can't say. I know that I experienced these
> things, not just once or twice but on a weekly or monthly
> basis for 14 years. So did hundreds of people in the same
> room or on desert trips. But as far as I know there were
> no video cameras present, so I really don't know whether
> they would record what I and others saw. 
> 
Thank you for your honesty.

> > > > Of course we know how he spiraled out of here. 
> > > 
> > > Sad. The guy had so much potential, and pissed it away.
> > 
> > Yeah, glad his main squeeze didn't go with him. Ending 
> > your life seems to be more prevalent in the tantric Buddhist 
> > traditions, though TM has those who sacrificed themselves 
> > in that way. 
> 
> By now you may have read my followup post. One of the 
> reasons I am considered a bit of a heretic by Rama TBs
> is that I attribute his suicide not only to hubris but 
> to a drug called Valium. As far as I can tell, both from
> personal observation and from first-hand accounts from
> people who were closer to him than I was, he was pre-
> scribed the drug as a muscle relaxant to help him get
> over a sports injury. But he seemed to like its effects,
> and got heavily addicted. I certainly saw its debilitating
> effects in the last years I was around him. Anyway, on the
> label of every jar of Valium, in BIG LETTERS, are words 
> to the effect of "DO NOT ATTEMPT TO STOP TAKING 
> THIS DRUG QUICKLY, BY GOING 'COLD TURKEY.' 
> ONE OF THE BIGGEST RISKS IN DOING THIS IS
> THE DANGER OF SUICIDAL THOUGHTS OR ACTUAL
> SUICIDE." So what does Mr. I-can-handle-it do? He tried
> to stop taking it overnight, cold turkey. Four days later
> he was dead, a suicide. Just sayin'. 
> 
And thanks for this info, I didn't know.

> > You probably knew of my friend, I won't mention her name here. 
> > Rama used to tell certain groups that she was his best student.
> 
> Her initials may have been LL. If so, she is one of the
> TB Rama students who would probably cross the street 
> rather than encounter me. :-)
> 
> > > > And, of course, that's another thing we loved so much about 
> > > > being with M, how much and how warmly he and we all laughed 
> > > > together.
> > > 
> > > In the early years. I left when laughter started 
> > > to be actually frowned upon.
> > 
> > laughter stopped in M's presence? When was that?
> 
> Not so much in his presence. It was still permitted to
> laugh at his joke and plays on words. But it began to
> be frowned upon at TM centers, and at National, where
> I worked for the last year or so of my TM period. 
> 
Yes, that's what I would have thought.
m
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

Thank you, Turq, for your kind words and thoughtful reply.  I appreciate it.
In order to have seen M's darshan at it's finest, one had to spend years in 
close proximity.
Though often sublime, there were certain, rare times, when it ascended to 
astonishing heights.
My guess would be that, at those times, he did surpass Rama's similar times, 
but, perhaps, many other times, Rama surpassed him.
But who's counting and, of course, it doesn't really matter.  Like I said, I'm 
sorry I missed him, but it wasn't meant to be.
And thanks for the job advice.
The folks at my old job, though, aren't kindly disposed.  I was fired for 
cause.  (Yes, folks, I colluded with my subconscious, for a complex variety of 
reasons, to so hijack myself.)
So this puts a rather large wrinkle in my securing a new position and, of 
course, disqualifies me from unemployment benefits.  (I am, as yet, undecided 
about appealing.)
m

On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:57 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there anyone here who spent long and equal time with 
> > > M and Rama? 
> > 
> > Besides me, you mean. 14 years each.
> > 
> > > I have one friend who felt that Rama's darshan blew M's away. 
> > 
> > I would have to agree. 
> 
> Mark, I was rushing somewhere earlier, thus the brevity
> of my reply. I'll try to do more justice to a reply in
> this post, since you have brought up the guy's name a
> couple of times and seem honestly curious.
> 
> To put my view in some perspective, I never spent any-
> where near the time you did in close proximity to MMY,
> but I did get to meet and work with him "close up" many
> times during the period when I was a TM State Coordinator
> and was Stan Crowe's second-in-command in the Western
> Regional Office. I usually don't talk all that much about
> Rama here, but it's been on my mind lately because I find
> myself part of a new online forum among 90+ former Rama
> students, pretty much the most contact I've had with any
> of them since 1996. So it's been on my mind.
> 
> Pretty much everything I have to say about him is in a 
> book I wrote about my time with him called Road Trip Mind.
> The price is right, if you're curious -- it's online, free,
> at: http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/index.html
> 
> If you choose to peruse it, please bear in mind that I am
> held in pretty much the same regard by Rama True Believers
> as you might be by TM True Believers. I bailed from his
> study a couple of years before he offed himself, and even
> though I carried through on my promise to him to write a
> book about my time with him, it is far from the Party Line.
> I struggled long and hard trying to come up with some way
> that I could write about him and yet remain true to myself.
> If it has any value in the canon of "books about spiritual
> teachers," that value is probably that it's a "seeker's
> tale," not another tale about another perfect teacher. I
> tried my best to be honest in it, and tell the story *as
> I saw it*. You can find books about him by more...uh...
> serious students at this link:
> http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/index.html
> 
> One of the reasons I'm replying is to second the comments
> of many on this forum. I love the stories you tell, and the
> way you tell them. There is a refreshing honesty there that
> is sadly missing from many attempts to tell the story of
> that most confusing of beings, a Supposedly Enlightened
> Teacher. 
> 
> One of the things Rama once said was that in his opinion 
> there could never be any such thing as *the* definitive 
> book about any spiritual teacher. He felt that the only
> thing that could do any of them justice was 20 to 30 books,
> all written by different people and told from their per-
> spective, and all of them mutually contradictory. I feel
> the same way about any attempt to tell Maharishi's story.
> I'd love to see your attempt added to the canon. If not
> for publication, in posts here or on a blog of some sort.
> I think you have a unique voice, and that your view of
> what it was like to spend time with him would do much to 
> "fill in the gaps" of the story of a complex individual.
> 
> On the job front, I second the advice here to NOT put your
> photo on your resume. In Europe that is standard, but that
> is Europe. I've been an HR person in the past, and I know
> that many US companies have a rule that if they receive a
> resume containing a photo it goes straight into the trash,
> unread. The reason is that they cannot take the chance of
> being accused of "racial profiling" in their hiring 
> practices. I also second the notion of "networking," and
> talking to people you worked with in your former company,
> and any contacts you developed outside the company as
> part of doing your job. Good luck, on all fronts.
> 
> Turq (Barry Wright)
> 
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

I am sorry I offended you. Both MMY and GD transformed my life in ways I never 
could have imagined, indeed brought me back to life in many ways. All I can 
offer is that I have enjoyed irreverent humor all of my life, and probably 
always will.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nablusos, You know that expectation we all have when someone starts to 
> > say something, and then we finish the phrase in our minds, and they say 
> > something else instead? That is why both of these things tickle me. I mean 
> > no disrespect for either of them. I would love to tell them my jokes! 
> > Perhaps it is my utter comfort with, and love for both of them that makes 
> > the joke a funny one to me.  
> 
> 
> It's not so funny to me Jim, but if you said this to Maharishi he might 
> bellylaugh ! (I've seen these utter absurb happenings in his presence many 
> times) 
> 
> If you study the tapes from DC 1983 you will find several such hilarious 
> occasions when someones comment made everyone laugh and Maharishi would laugh 
> along :-) In the end we found ourselves laughing so hard with Maharishi noone 
> knew what we laughed about anymore :-)
> 
> Your utter comfort is a good thing, it spills over also to me.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:

> Your utter comfort is a good thing, it spills over also to me.


It is also a fascinating phenomena. As a very young child She spoke to me 
indirectly. If you would like to expand on your comfort towards the divine, 
perhaps from an early age, I would be all ears. As would many here on FFL.

[FairfieldLife] Re: More "for"

2011-07-27 Thread emptybill


Vag and Jaina (Barry-atric-I) are both tag-team naysayers.  Sanskrit
differentiates these two.



Thus an "aastika" (it is) accepts the truth of the Veda.

While the "naastika" (it isn't) denies the truth of the
Veda.



I therefore propose that we call these two by

proper Vedic titles - i.e. the Naastika-s

(the Nasty-s for short).



So do you think the Nasty-s will clarify it enough?

..







--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams"
 wrote:

> emptybill:
> > So you are saying Turg believes in a
> > soul-monad?
> >
> "But one of the things that I can wholeheartedly
> recommend is that the minimal effort expended to
> prefer Self to self-importance in activity might
> be worth the expense." - TurquoiseB
>
> Self = Soul-Monad, Soul, Spirit.
>
> If you believe in reincarnation, there must be a
> 'Soul-Monad' that does the reincarnating, otherwise,
> what is it, exactly, that reincarnates?
>
> If there is a Soul-Monad, is it one, or many?
>
> If many, then there must be billions of 'Souls'
> floating around somewhere in space, right?
>
> Everything exists in time and space, right?
>
> Otherwise, it would be 'transcendental', beyond
> normal perception.
>
> So, it looks like Turq believes in a 'Self' that
> is transcendental, or a Soul-Monad, like an
> Over-Soul.
>
> Apparently Turq does NOT believe the ultimate
> reality is a dualism, so from 'monad' we get
> 'monism' - Turq's belief in One Self or Soul
> that reincarnates into many - one soul or self
> for each person.
>
> Go figure.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Hi Nablusos, You know that expectation we all have when someone starts to say 
> something, and then we finish the phrase in our minds, and they say something 
> else instead? That is why both of these things tickle me. I mean no 
> disrespect for either of them. I would love to tell them my jokes! Perhaps it 
> is my utter comfort with, and love for both of them that makes the joke a 
> funny one to me.  


It's not so funny to me Jim, but if you said this to Maharishi he might 
bellylaugh ! (I've seen these utter absurb happenings in his presence many 
times) 

If you study the tapes from DC 1983 you will find several such hilarious 
occasions when someones comment made everyone laugh and Maharishi would laugh 
along :-) In the end we found ourselves laughing so hard with Maharishi noone 
knew what we laughed about anymore :-)

Your utter comfort is a good thing, it spills over also to me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

You are welcome. 
It was not long ago that I did, thank you. 
Shani is the only culprit and that is temporary. : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Nabby, you fit the title to the subject with your posts on this thread. lol
> 
> 
> Lovely, thanks. And yes; do get a personal checking !
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Nabby, you fit the title to the subject with your posts on this thread. lol


Lovely, thanks. And yes; do get a personal checking !

[FairfieldLife] Re: More "for"



emptybill:
> So you are saying Turg believes in a 
> soul-monad?
> 
"But one of the things that I can wholeheartedly 
recommend is that the minimal effort expended to 
prefer Self to self-importance in activity might 
be worth the expense." - TurquoiseB 

Self = Soul-Monad, Soul, Spirit.

If you believe in reincarnation, there must be a
'Soul-Monad' that does the reincarnating, otherwise, 
what is it, exactly, that reincarnates? 

If there is a Soul-Monad, is it one, or many? 

If many, then there must be billions of 'Souls' 
floating around somewhere in space, right?

Everything exists in time and space, right?

Otherwise, it would be 'transcendental', beyond
normal perception. 

So, it looks like Turq believes in a 'Self' that 
is transcendental, or a Soul-Monad, like an 
Over-Soul. 

Apparently Turq does NOT believe the ultimate 
reality is a dualism, so from 'monad' we get 
'monism' - Turq's belief in One Self or Soul
that reincarnates into many - one soul or self
for each person.

Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

Nabby, you fit the title to the subject with your posts on this thread. lol
 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > Nabi.. let it go and take it as it comes.
> 
> 
> Mike; thank you for the reminder !
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

I thought your people were my people. 
OH Priced is right, the sequels will draw loads at the BO.
Gotta chapter growin right here. 
Scene 4 half way down the page
The moderators could do some good negotiating too, with the people, whose names 
are not but people of people of yours or my or theirs.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> My people will be calling your people to discuss residuals.
> 
> For more see: Rowing to Doha-Scene 4- (was conflict in Fiction)
> 
> 
> From: obbajeeba 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:20:15 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> Ahh. Thank you for bringing up the question.  What is the definition of: 
> "Know thy audience?" 
> The audience, could it be this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vaKllPg7k
> or this?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar4X-VK7p_I
> 
> A panel of FFL, who is?  : )
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > Obbajeeba, I wasn't saying life is either spiritual or worldly, just that 
> > to mix the two in terms of expression, while attempting to conduct business 
> > doesn't work very well. I am not condoning an absence of spirituality, 
> > whatever that may be, in one's life, at all. Just the opposite. "Know thy 
> > audience", though.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > "In's and out's of spiritual drama,"  happen all the time. For instance 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFwqUoO1JA a sickly stomach I felt when I 
> > > heard this song years ago, before the internet. There was a time I 
> > > questioned as to why John Lennon had an early demise and a meditating 
> > > person once told me it was because JL wrote that song. Years later, I am 
> > > understanding John's questioning purpose to the song. Is it very normal 
> > > for spiritual growth to go dual? 
> > > Then of course, I hear and read, Yoko (who performs on the above 
> > > recording) was present at the DLF CBW concert at the Radio City Music 
> > > Hall in 2009, and I am sure a donor to the DLF, so all is well now to 
> > > create money for the cause. This is a good example of "In's and 
> > > Out's."...and back "In."  Typical.
> > > Spiritual growth and investments in tax deductions for artists to keep 
> > > their name going, go hand in hand in the non profit world of music and 
> > > art. 
> > >  Mark is a creative being telling of his adventures and I am enjoying 
> > > reading them here on FFL.  : )
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > tedadams108, I think Mark will learn soon enough the difference between 
> > > > getting caught up in the ins and outs of spiritual drama, and what it 
> > > > actually takes to survive in the world. Better late than never...
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > > > 
> > > > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > > > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man 
> > > > > (Maharishi) who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > > >  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > > > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > > > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" 
> > > > > and dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > > > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > > > takes to speak so negatively about an organiz

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Nabi.. let it go and take it as it comes.


Mike; thank you for the reminder !

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Nabi.. let it go and take it as it comes.


Thank's :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

2011-07-27 Thread Mike Dixon

Nabi.. let it go and take it as it comes.

From: nablusoss1008 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in 
the TMO?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Two of the jokes on standard TM speak I enjoyed the most:
> > > 
> > > Instead of saying, "Jai Guru Dev" at the conclusion of group meditation, 
> > > saying, "Jai Edgar Hoover". 
> > > 
> > > Also, back when MUM was called MIU, I enjoyed calling it the "Maharishi 
> > > International House Of Pancakes", or MI-HOP.:-) 
> > 
> > 
> > I find your comments disrespectful, it's surprising. Towards a Yogi who (I 
> > was there when he said it) sacrified his whole life to usher in the Age of 
> > Enlightenment that you, me, and your grandchildren will enjoy forever into 
> > eternity.
> 
> 
> When Maharishi left the Himalayas it was not because he wanted to. He was 
> pushed towards a future which is forever insrcibed in the history of men. 
> 
> By History itself, by The Masters of Wisdom.
> 
> Your life was transformed by the sacrifises of Maharishi. 
> 

Would you have been introduced to the Lotus Feet of His Divinity Brahmananda 
Saraswathi, Maitreya's oldest and foremost disciple, without the tireless 
efforts of Maharishi ?

In my opinion we are not even eligble to utter Maharishi's name; much less 
ridiculing his efforts like you just did.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One in five American men don't work: Where's the outrage?

2011-07-27 Thread Tom Pall

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:44 PM, sparaig  wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall  wrote:
>>
>> http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/07/25/unemployment-job-skills-training/?iid=HP_LN
>>
>
> Gee, one in 2 African American men don't work, where's the outrage?
> On some reservations, its like 2/3 during parts of the year.
>
> L.


You don't remember the wry joke about the million man march?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

2011-07-27 Thread Tom Pall

Before group meditation we had a group checking.  The teacher asked
when we open our eyes whether we had any thoughts.  This woman shook
her head to signify no.  So we closed our eyes again.   He asked
again.  She said she had no thoughts.  He did this on and on and
eventually told he she was having thoughts and moved on with the
checking.

On my CIC flying block at Cobb we had a very wild bunch.  There was a
fiddler from Boston.  After lights out we gathered outside and began
dancing to the music of the fiddler.  A couple nights straight
eventually the teachers came out and told us to stop the music, stop
dancing and go to bed.

On one of my residence course at the Holiday inn in Hollywood, Florida
some of us went to the bar to just take in the atmosphere.  There we
came upon our teachers, a man and a woman, having an intimate beer
together.  No, they didn't ask us to join them.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

Hi Nablusos, You know that expectation we all have when someone starts to say 
something, and then we finish the phrase in our minds, and they say something 
else instead? That is why both of these things tickle me. I mean no disrespect 
for either of them. I would love to tell them my jokes! Perhaps it is my utter 
comfort with, and love for both of them that makes the joke a funny one to me.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > Two of the jokes on standard TM speak I enjoyed the most:
> > 
> > Instead of saying, "Jai Guru Dev" at the conclusion of group meditation, 
> > saying, "Jai Edgar Hoover". 
> > 
> > Also, back when MUM was called MIU, I enjoyed calling it the "Maharishi 
> > International House Of Pancakes", or MI-HOP.:-) 
> 
> 
> I find your comments disrespectful, it's surprising.  Towards a Yogi who (I 
> was there when he said it) sacrified his whole life to usher in the Age of 
> Enlightenment that you, me, and your grandchildren will enjoy forever into 
> eternity.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

2011-07-27 Thread Tom Pall

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 6:24 AM, tedadams108  wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros and 
> cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. I'll 
> write the first check.

Can you get an IA badge?   Go hang around the men who are on IA.
Very few if any go there because they're busy men who have it all
together.  Get talking to some of the guys, especially the ones on
some sort of stipend (US and Canada) or just room and board
(everywhere else).  You don't find the world's role models getting on
or staying on IA for months.   Confusion is rampant.   Like the guy
who kept giving me websites of guys who promise to make you a
millionaire like him.   How does he make is his money?   By collecting
hundreds to thousands of dollars showing people how to make millions
by teaching people how to teach people how to make millions by
teaching people how to make millions.   The guy gave me these URLs
with a straight face and shared them with me like they were his secret
stash of gold bars.   Asking for my honest opinion.   Kept talking
about how he could go back to live in the Philippines where though
it's hot, he can afford to get laid.   On and on.  And that's just one
of the many guys on IA rambling on, stumbling along.   After meeting
such people, I'm no longer bemused by confused people nor people who
seem to have no modesty in presenting their plight, looking for a
cure, a fix and doing it in a restaurant, going from table to table.

Now I ask you, parenthetically, these very confused men.   How much
does their doing program in the dome add to the coherence of IA and to
the world?  One wonders.  The TMO and its programs remind me of West
Virginia, where people tell me those who had the get up and go got up
and left.   Some of the ones who stayed behind post here.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Two of the jokes on standard TM speak I enjoyed the most:
> > > 
> > > Instead of saying, "Jai Guru Dev" at the conclusion of group meditation, 
> > > saying, "Jai Edgar Hoover". 
> > > 
> > > Also, back when MUM was called MIU, I enjoyed calling it the "Maharishi 
> > > International House Of Pancakes", or MI-HOP.:-) 
> > 
> > 
> > I find your comments disrespectful, it's surprising.  Towards a Yogi who (I 
> > was there when he said it) sacrified his whole life to usher in the Age of 
> > Enlightenment that you, me, and your grandchildren will enjoy forever into 
> > eternity.
> 
> 
> When Maharishi left the Himalayas it was not because he wanted to. He was 
> pushed towards a future which is forever insrcibed in the history of men. 
> 
> By History itself, by The Masters of Wisdom.
> 
> Your life was transformed by the sacrifises of Maharishi. 
> 


Would you have been introduced to the Lotus Feet of His Divinity Brahmananda 
Saraswathi, Maitreya's oldest and foremost disciple, without the tireless 
efforts of Maharishi ?

In my opinion we are not even eligble to utter Maharishi's name; much less 
ridiculing his efforts like you just did.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > Two of the jokes on standard TM speak I enjoyed the most:
> > 
> > Instead of saying, "Jai Guru Dev" at the conclusion of group meditation, 
> > saying, "Jai Edgar Hoover". 
> > 
> > Also, back when MUM was called MIU, I enjoyed calling it the "Maharishi 
> > International House Of Pancakes", or MI-HOP.:-) 
> 
> 
> I find your comments disrespectful, it's surprising.  Towards a Yogi who (I 
> was there when he said it) sacrified his whole life to usher in the Age of 
> Enlightenment that you, me, and your grandchildren will enjoy forever into 
> eternity.

When Maharishi left the Himalayas it was not because he wanted to. He was 
pushed towards a future which is forever insrcibed in the history of men. 

By History itself, by The Masters of Wisdom.

Your life was transformed by the sacrifises of Maharishi. 

Would you have been introduced to His Holiness Brahmananda Saraswathi without 
the tireless efforts of Maharishi ?

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Two of the jokes on standard TM speak I enjoyed the most:
> 
> Instead of saying, "Jai Guru Dev" at the conclusion of group meditation, 
> saying, "Jai Edgar Hoover". 
> 
> Also, back when MUM was called MIU, I enjoyed calling it the "Maharishi 
> International House Of Pancakes", or MI-HOP.:-) 

I find your comments disrespectful, it's surprising.  Towards a Yogi who (I was 
there when he said it) sacrified his whole life to usher in the Age of 
Enlightenment that you, me, and your grandchildren will enjoy forever into 
eternity.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

2011-07-27 Thread RoryGoff

Now THAT really tickles me! 

Thank you for Being Here, Mark :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> This video is priceless, I'd never seen it, thank you, o, all true, with, 
> yes, of course, one exception, not not-holy, but holy and sexy and perverted 
> and charming and lovable and criminal and a trillion other things...   We 
> really can put it all together because we really are all there is, and, more 
> so, that which is beyond.
> 
> All together now, all you need is/ stop denying and avoiding everything, yes, 
> with love.  Let's all do that, together, right...
> 
> Glad you're enjoying my rants.
> 
> m

[FairfieldLife] Re: More "for"

2011-07-27 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:

> Barry's post #51036 was unkind. But that was six years ago.
> Some loosening up of the darker shades of thought must have
> occurred in that time, unless evolution of experience has
> frozen in time for both of you.

Well, possibly Barry's darker shades of thought have
loosened up in the last year; he hasn't made any such
posts since April 2010. Prior to that, they were fairly
regular. I was the main target, but one other woman was
occasionally included.

He's been preoccupied with fantasies about my sex life
(or rather, fantasies about my lack of sex life, which
always gives me a chuckle) since well before FFL, way
back on the Usenet newsgroup alt.meditation.transcendental,
where we first encountered each other in 1995.

The interesting thing about #51036 was that he made it
before I ever arrived on FFL, only eight days after he
had made his first post here. I found it by accident
when I was reviewing some of the past traffic.

I'm not sure what my own evolution of experience has to
do with it, though.

This is my 50th for the week. Back soon.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Mark,

The following is the beginning of the post you made
where you enclosed a link to your website which included
your address.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

I'll take it.  I'm not proud.  I can even take credit cards.  No donations of 
less than a dollar accepted.  See:
http://www.sky5.com/pay.htm

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> Wow, I did, why on earth for?  Yes, of course that's right, but 4432 Alabama 
> Ave Apt A is better.  That's how good my memory is...  Can you direct me to 
> the post so I can see why I did that?  I know I put my email address at the 
> bottom of my first post.
> 
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:32 PM, tedadams108 wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Mark,
> > 
> > I have your address, you posted it in a previous response.
> > 
> > 4432A Alabama Ave, Los Alamos, NM, 87544
> > 
> > If this is not correct let me know, otherwise I will
> > send the money to the above address.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > >
> > > Gee, how can you do that without my address? Better go to the website.
> > > 
> > > On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:57 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Mark,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm sending you a cashier's check in amount of $20. I know it's 
> > > > not much but it's all I feel I can afford in this economy. I hope
> > > > it helps. If things improve with me financially I'll follow up
> > > > with more. Hopefully others on here will follow my lead and lend you
> > > > a helping hand. Feel free to post on here when you receive the check.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll take it. I'm not proud. I can even take credit cards. No 
> > > > > donations of less than a dollar accepted. See:
> > > > > http://www.sky5.com/pay.htm
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you really still think I only hold M and TM and everything TM 
> > > > > related with only contempt and ridicule? If so, you have a huge blind 
> > > > > spot.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And, regarding my situation, if things remain as as, I'll be homeless 
> > > > > and penniless in about four months. And, here I am, spending all my 
> > > > > time on FFL... (No, I haven't expended one more iota of energy on 
> > > > > selling M's sandals since this whole thing began, though, today, 
> > > > > hopefully, I will get around to taking their photo with a camera I 
> > > > > borrowed from a neighbor.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > But, really, Ted, if that is your name, I think there is some deeper 
> > > > > purpose in your reactions to me. If I trigger you so effectively, 
> > > > > there must be some important thing or things we have in common.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Perhaps your bringing up the sweet truth so long ago has something to 
> > > > > do with this. I was thinking I'd respond to that but then decided to 
> > > > > let others deal with it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But it's probably more my seeming chutzpah, over the top opportunism 
> > > > > and hypocrisy.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you're willing, take the time to look deeply into yourself to see 
> > > > > what's really going on here. Everything "out there" is a reflection 
> > > > > of what's "in here." The things that trigger us are the things we 
> > > > > haven't fully met with and processed within ourselves. If you really 
> > > > > come up with it, interactions between us might become fruitful.
> > > > > 
> > > > > m
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought 
> > > > > > was 
> > > > > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man 
> > > > > > (Maharishi) who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > > > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > > > > Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > > > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > > > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > > > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > > > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > > > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > > > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > > > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > > > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > > > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > > > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > > > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > > > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to 
> > > > > > be 
> > > > > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > > > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Where are O's former girlfriends??? - Scary!! or a good laugh - joke

2011-07-27 Thread WLeed3

 From: eb7...@dejazzd.com
To: wle...@aol.com
Sent: 7/25/2011 1:39:09 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Fwd: Where are O's former  girlfriends??? - Scary!!

Begin forwarded message:

From:  "Lois  Kaufman" <_otherpaw@myactv.net_ (mailto:other...@myactv.net) >

Date:  July  24, 2011 4:15:56 PM EDT

To: "Lois Kaufman" <_otherpaw@myactv.net_ (mailto:other...@myactv.net) >

Subject:  Where are O's former  girlfriends??? - Scary!!

Reply-To:  <_otherpaw@myactv.net_ (mailto:other...@myactv.net) >

WHERE ARE THE  GIRLFRIENDS?

I hadn't thought about this -  but where are O's past girlfriends - surely 
he had at  least one? No past girl friends popping up anywhere?  Strange - 
strange to the point of being downright  weird!

OK, this is just  plain old common sense, no political agendas for either  
side. Just common knowledge for citizens of a country,  especially American 
citizens, who know every little tidbit  about every other president (and 
their wives) that even  know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe 
and  was accused of adultery, or that Lincoln never went to  school or 
Kennedy wore a back brace or Truman played the  piano.

We are Americans! Our Media vets these  things out! We are known for our 
humanitarian interests  and caring for our 'fellow man.' We care, but none of 
us  know one single humanizing fact about the history of our  own president. 

Honestly, and this is a  personal thing ... but it's bugged me for years 
that no  one who ever dated him ever showed up. Taken his charisma,  which 
caused the women to be drawn to him so obviously  during his campaign, looks 
like some lady would not have  missed the opportunity 

We all know  about JFK's magnetism, McCain was no monk, Palin's  courtship 
and even her athletic prowess were probed.  Biden's aneurisms are no secret. 
 Look at Cheney and  Clinton-we all know about their heart problems. How 
could  I have left out Wild Bill before or during the White  House? 

Nope... not one lady has stepped  up and said, "He was s shy," or "What 
a great  dancer!" 
Now look at the rest of what we know...  no classmates, not even the 
recorder for the Columbia  class notes ever heard of him.

Who was the  best man at his wedding? Start there. Check for groomsmen.  
Then get the footage of the graduation  ceremony. 

Has anyone talked to the  professors? Isn't it odd that no one is bragging 
that they  knew him or taught him or lived with  him.

When did he meet Michele and how? Are  there photos? Every president 
provides the public with all  their photos, etc. for their library. What has he 

released? Nada - other than what was in this so-called  biography! And 
experts who study writing styles, etc.  claim it was not O's own words or 
typical 
of his speech  patterns, etc.

Does this make any of you  wonder?

Ever wonder why no one ever came  forward from Obama's past, saying they 
knew him, attended  school with him, was his friend, etc. ? 
Not one  person has ever come forward from his past.
This should  really be a cause for great concern. Did you see the movie  
titled, The Manchurian Candidate?

Let's face  it. As insignificant as we all are... someone whom we went  to 
school with remembers our name or face...someone  remembers we were the 
clown or the dork or the brain or  the quiet one or the bully or something 
about 
 us.

George Stephanopoulos, ABC News said the  same thing during the 2008 
campaign. 
Even George  questions why no one has acknowledged that the president  was 
in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or  made impromptu speeches 
on campus.  
Stephanopoulos was a classmate of Obama at  Columbia-class of 1984.
He says he never had a single  class with him.
Since he is such a great orator, why  doesn't anyone in Obama's college 
class remember him?  
And, why won't he allow Columbia to release his  records?
Do you like millions of others, simply assume  all this is explainable - 
even though no one  can?

NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT  COLUMBIA

Looking for evidence of Obama's  past, Fox News contacted  400 Columbia 
University students from the period when  Obama claims to have been there, but 
not  one remembers him. For example,Wayne  Allyn Root was (like Obama) a 
political science major at  Columbia , who graduated in 1983.  In 2008, Root 
says  of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that  knew him, and 
they all know  me. I don't have a single classmate who ever  knew Barack 
Obama at Columbia ... EVER!

Nobody  recalls him.

Root adds that he was, "Class of  '83 political science, pre-law" and says, 
"You don't get  more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my life,  
don't know anyone who ever met him."

At our  20th class reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the  speaker 
of the class?  Me.  No one ever heard of  Barack!  An

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:16 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > >
> > > But she didn't spend nearly as much time with M as with R. 
> > > And, of course, two others who "saw" him fly and disappear. 
> > 
> > You can find thousands of people who saw that.
>  
> And do you hold it was actual seeing of physical events or 
> images he was able to fill people's minds with?

I honestly can't say. I know that I experienced these
things, not just once or twice but on a weekly or monthly
basis for 14 years. So did hundreds of people in the same
room or on desert trips. But as far as I know there were
no video cameras present, so I really don't know whether
they would record what I and others saw. 

> > > Of course we know how he spiraled out of here. 
> > 
> > Sad. The guy had so much potential, and pissed it away.
>  
> Yeah, glad his main squeeze didn't go with him. Ending 
> your life seems to be more prevalent in the tantric Buddhist 
> traditions, though TM has those who sacrificed themselves 
> in that way. 

By now you may have read my followup post. One of the 
reasons I am considered a bit of a heretic by Rama TBs
is that I attribute his suicide not only to hubris but 
to a drug called Valium. As far as I can tell, both from
personal observation and from first-hand accounts from
people who were closer to him than I was, he was pre-
scribed the drug as a muscle relaxant to help him get
over a sports injury. But he seemed to like its effects,
and got heavily addicted. I certainly saw its debilitating
effects in the last years I was around him. Anyway, on the
label of every jar of Valium, in BIG LETTERS, are words 
to the effect of "DO NOT ATTEMPT TO STOP TAKING 
THIS DRUG QUICKLY, BY GOING 'COLD TURKEY.' 
ONE OF THE BIGGEST RISKS IN DOING THIS IS
THE DANGER OF SUICIDAL THOUGHTS OR ACTUAL
SUICIDE." So what does Mr. I-can-handle-it do? He tried
to stop taking it overnight, cold turkey. Four days later
he was dead, a suicide. Just sayin'. 

> You probably knew of my friend, I won't mention her name here. 
> Rama used to tell certain groups that she was his best student.

Her initials may have been LL. If so, she is one of the
TB Rama students who would probably cross the street 
rather than encounter me. :-)

> > > And, of course, that's another thing we loved so much about 
> > > being with M, how much and how warmly he and we all laughed 
> > > together.
> > 
> > In the early years. I left when laughter started 
> > to be actually frowned upon.
>  
> laughter stopped in M's presence?  When was that?

Not so much in his presence. It was still permitted to
laugh at his joke and plays on words. But it began to
be frowned upon at TM centers, and at National, where
I worked for the last year or so of my TM period.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job

2011-07-27 Thread Bhairitu

On 07/27/2011 10:23 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
>
>> Well as someone who had to pour through resumes to hire people I have my
>> two bits too.  Too me a flashy looking resume didn't mean anything more
>> than the applicant had "a flashy looking resume."  It really tell me
>> anything as to whether they could do the job or not.  One of my best
>> hires was an engineer whose resume was about 5 unformatted pages long
>> and mainly just a dump of everything he had done.  If HR had done
>> filtering for me it his would have gone into the trash can.  But he came
>> in and had a program that showed his skills which was what we were
>> looking for.
>>
>> A couple thoughts on Mark's, contrary to what's been said due to Mark's
>> age NO PICTURE.  In fact hide age as much as possible.  This is
>> especially true if the hiring manager is half Mark's age.  Put the
>> degrees earned in but no dates.  Also limit the employment trail to a
>> decade or so.  Fool 'em into thinking you're a youngster so you get an
>> interview.
> Great idea, Bhair.  And as long as we're trying to
> fool 'em, why not go all the way and fool 'em into
> thinking you're someone else entirely? Using a
> different name would do the trick nicely.
>   So I would advise Mark to ditch his common name
> for something really attention-getting~~how about
> Orion Landau, say, or Ludacris Landau?   Jasper
> Landau might work, or even Abdul-Jabaar Landau.
> I mean, it beats actually *doing* something other
> than whining on an internet forum about how
> desperate your situation is and then doing absolutely
> nothing when good suggestions are offered.
>
> Sal

Of course I wouldn't advise using a different name.  Most all of my 
recommendations you'll find at current websites about writing resumes.   
Mark's layout wasn't bad but as someone suggested it should be shorter 
and these days unless you're under 40 tipping anyone to your age is not 
considered a good idea.  Let them find that out when you're face to 
face.  And a cover letter selling yourself is also a good idea which 
someone also suggested.  You may tailor those to the busieness you're 
applying for.

One such site:
http://www.bestsampleresume.com/

Of course sending your resume out is just fine as businesses don't like 
to pay recruiter fees.  BUT in cases of executive searches some 
companies only will use a recruiter.

And Mark hasn't been out of work long enough to worry.  And Mark also 
might consider taking his skills and marketing them as a consultant. 
Also in his area the spiritual background may not be a negative at all.  
It may be a plus for some employers.  Same can be true in the Bay Area.  
In fact the founder of the company I worked for interested in such 
things.  And same with the HR VP.

One funny thing was interviewing after I left my in house gig.  
Questions were: "why are you giving up on the fun".  Well that person 
never contracted and apparently thought that beating the bushes for 
contracts and working at home would be fun.  Working at home is great.  
Beating the bushes: not!   Working at home takes self discipline and 
some people don't have it.  I know, I had to bring in some folks that 
were falling behind working at home.  One even thanked me for doing so.

One recruiter had a habit of sending me out for mismatched positions.  
They would send me for a project lead and the manager would read of my 
mid level management and start sweating probably thinking I might take 
his job.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> >
> > Is there anyone here who spent long and equal time with 
> > M and Rama?  
> 
> Besides me, you mean. 14 years each.
> 
> > I have one friend who felt that Rama's darshan blew M's away.  
> 
> I would have to agree. 

Mark, I was rushing somewhere earlier, thus the brevity
of my reply. I'll try to do more justice to a reply in
this post, since you have brought up the guy's name a
couple of times and seem honestly curious.

To put my view in some perspective, I never spent any-
where near the time you did in close proximity to MMY,
but I did get to meet and work with him "close up" many
times during the period when I was a TM State Coordinator
and was Stan Crowe's second-in-command in the Western
Regional Office. I usually don't talk all that much about
Rama here, but it's been on my mind lately because I find
myself part of a new online forum among 90+ former Rama
students, pretty much the most contact I've had with any
of them since 1996. So it's been on my mind.

Pretty much everything I have to say about him is in a 
book I wrote about my time with him called Road Trip Mind.
The price is right, if you're curious -- it's online, free,
at: http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/index.html

If you choose to peruse it, please bear in mind that I am
held in pretty much the same regard by Rama True Believers
as you might be by TM True Believers. I bailed from his
study a couple of years before he offed himself, and even
though I carried through on my promise to him to write a
book about my time with him, it is far from the Party Line.
I struggled long and hard trying to come up with some way
that I could write about him and yet remain true to myself.
If it has any value in the canon of "books about spiritual
teachers," that value is probably that it's a "seeker's
tale," not another tale about another perfect teacher. I
tried my best to be honest in it, and tell the story *as
I saw it*. You can find books about him by more...uh...
serious students at this link:
http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/index.html

One of the reasons I'm replying is to second the comments
of many on this forum. I love the stories you tell, and the
way you tell them. There is a refreshing honesty there that
is sadly missing from many attempts to tell the story of
that most confusing of beings, a Supposedly Enlightened
Teacher. 

One of the things Rama once said was that in his opinion 
there could never be any such thing as *the* definitive 
book about any spiritual teacher. He felt that the only
thing that could do any of them justice was 20 to 30 books,
all written by different people and told from their per-
spective, and all of them mutually contradictory. I feel
the same way about any attempt to tell Maharishi's story.
I'd love to see your attempt added to the canon. If not
for publication, in posts here or on a blog of some sort.
I think you have a unique voice, and that your view of
what it was like to spend time with him would do much to 
"fill in the gaps" of the story of a complex individual.

On the job front, I second the advice here to NOT put your
photo on your resume. In Europe that is standard, but that
is Europe. I've been an HR person in the past, and I know
that many US companies have a rule that if they receive a
resume containing a photo it goes straight into the trash,
unread. The reason is that they cannot take the chance of
being accused of "racial profiling" in their hiring 
practices. I also second the notion of "networking," and
talking to people you worked with in your former company,
and any contacts you developed outside the company as
part of doing your job. Good luck, on all fronts.

Turq (Barry Wright)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Resume/A Job

And thank you to everyone who was kind enough to give me advice.  I will start 
going through them soon but want to retain some of my 50.
 
On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:23 PM, obbajeeba wrote:

> Thanks to both of you to help others reading this thread! 
> These tips will help me a lot too! 
> I am grateful. : ) 
> Thanks to Mark for being bold enough to post a resume'. 
> The world is a good place!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for this great advice. Â I'm glad to hear that pics aren't the 
> > way to go - seems to promote discrimination to some degree. Â I agree with 
> > the "down on flashy" advice, but simple, clean structure is always 
> > appreciated - hence the nudge to Mark on that. Â In my business...it was a 
> > requirement.
> > Its good practice to have lunch with other professional friends and 
> > practice how to network. Â I went to a class once called "marketing for 
> > engineers"...not always a primary skill of these types of thinkers, but 
> > good to practice. Â And, everyone I know who has gotten a job of late, 
> > hasn't gotten it by sending out resumes, but through the grace of a contact 
> > that knew they could do the job, as you mentioned.
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > 
> > From: Bhairitu 
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:28 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Â 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Well as someone who had to pour through resumes to hire people I have my 
> > 
> > two bits too. Too me a flashy looking resume didn't mean anything more 
> > 
> > than the applicant had "a flashy looking resume." It really tell me 
> > 
> > anything as to whether they could do the job or not. One of my best 
> > 
> > hires was an engineer whose resume was about 5 unformatted pages long 
> > 
> > and mainly just a dump of everything he had done. If HR had done 
> > 
> > filtering for me it his would have gone into the trash can. But he came 
> > 
> > in and had a program that showed his skills which was what we were 
> > 
> > looking for.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A couple thoughts on Mark's, contrary to what's been said due to Mark's 
> > 
> > age NO PICTURE. In fact hide age as much as possible. This is 
> > 
> > especially true if the hiring manager is half Mark's age. Put the 
> > 
> > degrees earned in but no dates. Also limit the employment trail to a 
> > 
> > decade or so. Fool 'em into thinking you're a youngster so you get an 
> > 
> > interview.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On networking, some people can do it and do it well. But others can 
> > 
> > not.. But that doesn't mean they won't be any good at the job. There 
> > 
> > are "people people" and there are "things people." For some jobs you 
> > 
> > may definitely need a people person but for others like computer 
> > 
> > programming it isn't so important.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Some people interview well and others don't. You can easily wind up 
> > 
> > with someone who is flashy at the interview and can't do the job.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Right now the employment scene is just plain silly. Even back in the 
> > 
> > day we were warned about "gaps in employment". But if I had to apply 
> > 
> > for the job I held I might not have even gotten an interview. The 
> > 
> > reason I was given the job was that I was an outside contractor for the 
> > 
> > company and they knew my work. So the interview consisted of "you want 
> > 
> > the job" and "when can you start?" I interviewed people who took some 
> > 
> > time out to learn new things. I found that a good sign. HR often had 
> > 
> > lame ideas anyway. This article sums up the issue and do read the 
> > 
> > comments. They will tell you more about the job scene than the article:
> > 
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/business/help-wanted-ads-exclude-the-long-term-jobless.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I've been saying for years that putting well educated and experienced 
> > 
> > people out of work for anything more than short time is a recipe for 
> > 
> > revolution.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 07/27/2011 01:04 AM, Denise Evans wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Mark:
> > 
> > > Lookin good - adventurous of you to post it here :) I have a friend who's 
> > > a VP in a consulting firm that gave me some advice on my resume...
> > 
> > > 1) Use an up-to-date format and fontI would block yours a bit 
> > > differently and add a few "rules/lines" to give it better structure, and 
> > > maybe update the header font. 
> > 
> > > 2)Add a picture - Are you averse to putting your picture in the left hand 
> > > corner?...I've been resisting this because I don't photograph well, but I 
> > > am told this is becoming standard practice in many companies...they want 
> > > to see what you look like first :) 
> > 
> > > 3) If you can hit the high points in a well designed resume in one page - 
> > > that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Wow, I did, why on earth for?  Yes, of course that's right, but 4432 Alabama 
Ave Apt A is better.  That's how good my memory is...  Can you direct me to the 
post so I can see why I did that?  I know I put my email address at the bottom 
of my first post.

On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:32 PM, tedadams108 wrote:

> 
> Mark,
> 
> I have your address, you posted it in a previous response.
> 
> 4432A Alabama Ave, Los Alamos, NM, 87544
> 
> If this is not correct let me know, otherwise I will
> send the money to the above address.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> >
> > Gee, how can you do that without my address? Better go to the website.
> > 
> > On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:57 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Mark,
> > > 
> > > I'm sending you a cashier's check in amount of $20. I know it's 
> > > not much but it's all I feel I can afford in this economy. I hope
> > > it helps. If things improve with me financially I'll follow up
> > > with more. Hopefully others on here will follow my lead and lend you
> > > a helping hand. Feel free to post on here when you receive the check.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'll take it. I'm not proud. I can even take credit cards. No donations 
> > > > of less than a dollar accepted. See:
> > > > http://www.sky5.com/pay.htm
> > > > 
> > > > Do you really still think I only hold M and TM and everything TM 
> > > > related with only contempt and ridicule? If so, you have a huge blind 
> > > > spot.
> > > > 
> > > > And, regarding my situation, if things remain as as, I'll be homeless 
> > > > and penniless in about four months. And, here I am, spending all my 
> > > > time on FFL... (No, I haven't expended one more iota of energy on 
> > > > selling M's sandals since this whole thing began, though, today, 
> > > > hopefully, I will get around to taking their photo with a camera I 
> > > > borrowed from a neighbor.)
> > > > 
> > > > But, really, Ted, if that is your name, I think there is some deeper 
> > > > purpose in your reactions to me. If I trigger you so effectively, there 
> > > > must be some important thing or things we have in common.
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps your bringing up the sweet truth so long ago has something to 
> > > > do with this. I was thinking I'd respond to that but then decided to 
> > > > let others deal with it.
> > > > 
> > > > But it's probably more my seeming chutzpah, over the top opportunism 
> > > > and hypocrisy.
> > > > 
> > > > If you're willing, take the time to look deeply into yourself to see 
> > > > what's really going on here. Everything "out there" is a reflection of 
> > > > what's "in here." The things that trigger us are the things we haven't 
> > > > fully met with and processed within ourselves. If you really come up 
> > > > with it, interactions between us might become fruitful.
> > > > 
> > > > m
> > > > 
> > > > On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > > > 
> > > > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > > > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man 
> > > > > (Maharishi) who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > > > Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > > > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > > > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" 
> > > > > and dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > > > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > > > takes to speak so negatively about an organizati

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword


On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:16 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> >
> > Is there anyone here who spent long and equal time with 
> > M and Rama? 
> 
> Besides me, you mean. 14 years each.
> 
great
> 
> > I have one friend who felt that Rama's darshan blew M's away. 
> 
> I would have to agree. 
> 
> 
thanks, too bad I missed it

> > But she didn't spend nearly as much time with M as with R. 
> > And, of course, two others who "saw" him fly and disappear. 
> 
> You can find thousands of people who saw that.
> 
> 
And do you hold it was actual seeing of physical events or images he was able 
to fill people's minds with?

> > Of course we know how he spiraled out of here. 
> 
> Sad. The guy had so much potential, and pissed it away.
> 
Yeah, glad his main squeeze didn't go with him.  Ending your life seems to be 
more prevalent in the tantric Buddhist traditions, though TM has those who 
sacrificed themselves in that way.  You probably knew of my friend, I won't 
mention her name here.  Rama used to tell certain groups that she was his best 
student.
> 
> > And, of course, that's another thing we loved so much about 
> > being with M, how much and how warmly he and we all laughed 
> > together.
> 
> In the early years. I left when laughter started 
> to be actually frowned upon.
> 
laughter stopped in M's presence?  When was that?

> 
> > On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:10 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > 
> > > What is the sound that causes the most disparate reactions in people?
> > > Some can hear this sound and react with fury in the moment of hearing
> > > it, and seemingly hold on to that fury for years, basing whole vendettas
> > > on it. Others can hear the same sound and join in, as if adding harmony
> > > to an already-sweet song. To the former, this sound closes the door on
> > > any possible future communication or resonance with the person or
> > > persons who laughed at them forever; it is perceived as an affront that
> > > can never be forgiven, an offense that should and must be punished. To
> > > the latter, the same sound actually *opens* doors to enhanced
> > > communication and increased resonance; it is perceived as an invitation
> > > to expand one's awareness, both of self and of the world.
> > > 
> > > The sound in question is laughter. In particular, the sound of other
> > > people laughing at you.
> > > 
> > > I've heard this sound a lot, because I studied with a spiritual teacher
> > > who used it as almost a mahavakya to facilitate breakthroughs to higher
> > > states of attention. Rama would poke merciless fun at us, his students,
> > > often in front of an audience of hundreds of other students.
> > > 
> > > Whatever else he might have been, Rama was a natural comedian, as fast
> > > on his feet as Robin Williams; he could find something funny in almost
> > > any situation. He specialized in "finding the funny" in situations that
> > > almost everyone around him treated with deadly seriousness. One of the
> > > things that almost every spiritual aspirant takes seriously is their
> > > self -- its stories, its importance, and above all its very seriousness.
> > > This 'tude is seemingly endemic to the spiritual seeker, and often to
> > > the spiritual path itself, as reflected by the very language that path
> > > uses. A "good" student is described as a "serious" student; a "proper"
> > > attitude to the study itself is described as "taking it seriously."
> > > 
> > > Color me not convinced of this. I'm with Christian philosopher G.K.
> > > Chesterton, who said, "Seriousness is not a virtue." Not only do I agree
> > > with him that there is no virtue in seriousness, I have come to believe
> > > that seriousness is the very antithesis of spiritual practice. I believe
> > > this because the few human beings I have encountered on this planet whom
> > > I would suspect of being enlightened or close to it were funny as hell;
> > > they could find a joke in *anything*. Including themselves.
> > > 
> > > Rama felt similarly. What was best about him is that he wisely included
> > > himself in the list of "viable targets for humor." He was remarkably
> > > self-effacing, and made himself the butt of his own jokes as often as he
> > > did us. In my 14-odd (very odd) years with him, I shared the limelight
> > > with him many times, and became the butt of many of his jokes.
> > > 
> > > Some of them roasted me mercilessly, and resulted in many of my fellow
> > > students joining in the laughter. This presented me with a koan: "What
> > > is the sound of one person not laughing, in a room full of laughing
> > > people?" Fortunately, in almost every case I decided that the answer to
> > > that koan was "An absolute boob who has started to take himself FAR too
> > > seriously," lightened the fuck up, and joined in the laughter.
> > > 
> > > I rank doing so right up there with my highest satori experiences in
> > > this life. Without exception, every time I managed to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume


Mark,

I have your address, you posted it in a previous response.

4432A Alabama Ave, Los Alamos, NM, 87544


If this is not correct let me know, otherwise I will
send the money to the above address.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> Gee, how can you do that without my address?  Better go to the website.
> 
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:57 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Mark,
> > 
> > I'm sending you a cashier's check in amount of $20. I know it's 
> > not much but it's all I feel I can afford in this economy. I hope
> > it helps. If things improve with me financially I'll follow up
> > with more. Hopefully others on here will follow my lead and lend you
> > a helping hand. Feel free to post on here when you receive the check.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll take it. I'm not proud. I can even take credit cards. No donations 
> > > of less than a dollar accepted. See:
> > > http://www.sky5.com/pay.htm
> > > 
> > > Do you really still think I only hold M and TM and everything TM related 
> > > with only contempt and ridicule? If so, you have a huge blind spot.
> > > 
> > > And, regarding my situation, if things remain as as, I'll be homeless and 
> > > penniless in about four months. And, here I am, spending all my time on 
> > > FFL... (No, I haven't expended one more iota of energy on selling M's 
> > > sandals since this whole thing began, though, today, hopefully, I will 
> > > get around to taking their photo with a camera I borrowed from a 
> > > neighbor.)
> > > 
> > > But, really, Ted, if that is your name, I think there is some deeper 
> > > purpose in your reactions to me. If I trigger you so effectively, there 
> > > must be some important thing or things we have in common.
> > > 
> > > Perhaps your bringing up the sweet truth so long ago has something to do 
> > > with this. I was thinking I'd respond to that but then decided to let 
> > > others deal with it.
> > > 
> > > But it's probably more my seeming chutzpah, over the top opportunism and 
> > > hypocrisy.
> > > 
> > > If you're willing, take the time to look deeply into yourself to see 
> > > what's really going on here. Everything "out there" is a reflection of 
> > > what's "in here." The things that trigger us are the things we haven't 
> > > fully met with and processed within ourselves. If you really come up with 
> > > it, interactions between us might become fruitful.
> > > 
> > > m
> > > 
> > > On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > > 
> > > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man 
> > > > (Maharishi) who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > > Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" 
> > > > and dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > > > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > > > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation 
> > > > is that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the 
> > > > pros and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > > > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some 
> > > > money. I'll write the first check.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Not too

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Gee, how can you do that without my address?  Better go to the website.

On Jul 27, 2011, at 10:57 AM, tedadams108 wrote:

> 
> Mark,
> 
> I'm sending you a cashier's check in amount of $20. I know it's 
> not much but it's all I feel I can afford in this economy. I hope
> it helps. If things improve with me financially I'll follow up
> with more. Hopefully others on here will follow my lead and lend you
> a helping hand. Feel free to post on here when you receive the check.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> >
> > I'll take it. I'm not proud. I can even take credit cards. No donations of 
> > less than a dollar accepted. See:
> > http://www.sky5.com/pay.htm
> > 
> > Do you really still think I only hold M and TM and everything TM related 
> > with only contempt and ridicule? If so, you have a huge blind spot.
> > 
> > And, regarding my situation, if things remain as as, I'll be homeless and 
> > penniless in about four months. And, here I am, spending all my time on 
> > FFL... (No, I haven't expended one more iota of energy on selling M's 
> > sandals since this whole thing began, though, today, hopefully, I will get 
> > around to taking their photo with a camera I borrowed from a neighbor.)
> > 
> > But, really, Ted, if that is your name, I think there is some deeper 
> > purpose in your reactions to me. If I trigger you so effectively, there 
> > must be some important thing or things we have in common.
> > 
> > Perhaps your bringing up the sweet truth so long ago has something to do 
> > with this. I was thinking I'd respond to that but then decided to let 
> > others deal with it.
> > 
> > But it's probably more my seeming chutzpah, over the top opportunism and 
> > hypocrisy.
> > 
> > If you're willing, take the time to look deeply into yourself to see what's 
> > really going on here. Everything "out there" is a reflection of what's "in 
> > here." The things that trigger us are the things we haven't fully met with 
> > and processed within ourselves. If you really come up with it, interactions 
> > between us might become fruitful.
> > 
> > m
> > 
> > On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > 
> > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) 
> > > who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" and 
> > > dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> > > that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros 
> > > and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. 
> > > I'll write the first check.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd 
> > > > let you know.
> > > > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting 
> > > > firm in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> > > > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > > > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> > > > skills, please let me know. The link is:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Resume/A Job

Thanks to both of you to help others reading this thread!  
These tips will help me a lot too!  
 I am grateful. : )  
Thanks to Mark for being bold enough to post a resume'. 
The world is a good place!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans  wrote:
>
> Thank you for this great advice. Â I'm glad to hear that pics aren't the way 
> to go - seems to promote discrimination to some degree. Â I agree with the 
> "down on flashy" advice, but simple, clean structure is always appreciated - 
> hence the nudge to Mark on that. Â In my business...it was a requirement.
> Its good practice to have lunch with other professional friends and practice 
> how to network. Â I went to a class once called "marketing for 
> engineers"...not always a primary skill of these types of thinkers, but good 
> to practice. Â And, everyone I know who has gotten a job of late, hasn't 
> gotten it by sending out resumes, but through the grace of a contact that 
> knew they could do the job, as you mentioned.
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
> From: Bhairitu 
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:28 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
>   Well as someone who had to pour through resumes to hire people I have 
> my 
> 
> two bits too.  Too me a flashy looking resume didn't mean anything more 
> 
> than the applicant had "a flashy looking resume."  It really tell me 
> 
> anything as to whether they could do the job or not.  One of my best 
> 
> hires was an engineer whose resume was about 5 unformatted pages long 
> 
> and mainly just a dump of everything he had done.  If HR had done 
> 
> filtering for me it his would have gone into the trash can.  But he came 
> 
> in and had a program that showed his skills which was what we were 
> 
> looking for.
> 
> 
> 
> A couple thoughts on Mark's, contrary to what's been said due to Mark's 
> 
> age NO PICTURE.  In fact hide age as much as possible.  This is 
> 
> especially true if the hiring manager is half Mark's age.  Put the 
> 
> degrees earned in but no dates.  Also limit the employment trail to a 
> 
> decade or so.  Fool 'em into thinking you're a youngster so you get an 
> 
> interview.
> 
> 
> 
> On networking, some people can do it and do it well.  But others can 
> 
> not..  But that doesn't mean they won't be any good at the job.  There 
> 
> are "people people" and there are "things people."  For some jobs you 
> 
> may definitely need a people person but for others like computer 
> 
> programming it isn't so important.
> 
> 
> 
> Some people interview well and others don't.  You can easily wind up 
> 
> with someone who is flashy at the interview and can't do the job.
> 
> 
> 
> Right now the employment scene is just plain silly.  Even back in the 
> 
> day we were warned about "gaps in employment".  But if I had to apply 
> 
> for the job I held I might not have even gotten an interview.  The 
> 
> reason I was given the job was that I was an outside contractor for the 
> 
> company and they knew my work.   So the interview consisted of "you want 
> 
> the job" and "when can you start?"  I interviewed people who took some 
> 
> time out to learn new things.  I found that a good sign.  HR often had 
> 
> lame ideas anyway.  This article sums up the issue and do read the 
> 
> comments.  They will tell you more about the job scene than the article:
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/business/help-wanted-ads-exclude-the-long-term-jobless.html
> 
> 
> 
> I've  been saying for years that putting well educated and experienced 
> 
> people out of work for anything more than short time is a recipe for 
> 
> revolution.
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/27/2011 01:04 AM, Denise Evans wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mark:
> 
> > Lookin good - adventurous of you to post it here :)  I have a friend who's 
> > a VP in a consulting firm that gave me some advice on my resume...
> 
> > 1) Use an up-to-date format and fontI would block yours a bit 
> > differently and add a few "rules/lines" to give it better structure, and 
> > maybe update the header font.  
> 
> > 2)Add a picture - Are you averse to putting your picture in the left hand 
> > corner?...I've been resisting this because I don't photograph well, but I 
> > am told this is becoming standard practice in many companies...they want to 
> > see what you look like first :)
> 
> > 3) If you can hit the high points in a well designed resume in one page - 
> > that's ideal.  Not sure you need all that on the back end quite that far 
> > back - could consolidate it into 3 bullets under a single category maybe.  
> 
> > Don't take this wrong...I did a lot of proposals and resume's in my line of 
> > work, so I edit by nature.
> 
> > I'm in a design class right nowit's all about being bold and creative 
> > in the sell.
> 
> > I have about 6 versions of resumes.
> 
> > Network, network..

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> Is there anyone here who spent long and equal time with 
> M and Rama?  

Besides me, you mean. 14 years each.

> I have one friend who felt that Rama's darshan blew M's away.  

I would have to agree. 

> But she didn't spend nearly as much time with M as with R.  
> And, of course, two others who "saw" him fly and disappear.  

You can find thousands of people who saw that.

> Of course we know how he spiraled out of here.  

Sad. The guy had so much potential, and pissed it away.

> And, of course, that's another thing we loved so much about 
> being with M, how much and how warmly he and we all laughed 
> together.

In the early years. I left when laughter started 
to be actually frowned upon.

> On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:10 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> 
> > What is the sound that causes the most disparate reactions in people?
> > Some can hear this sound and react with fury in the moment of hearing
> > it, and seemingly hold on to that fury for years, basing whole vendettas
> > on it. Others can hear the same sound and join in, as if adding harmony
> > to an already-sweet song. To the former, this sound closes the door on
> > any possible future communication or resonance with the person or
> > persons who laughed at them forever; it is perceived as an affront that
> > can never be forgiven, an offense that should and must be punished. To
> > the latter, the same sound actually *opens* doors to enhanced
> > communication and increased resonance; it is perceived as an invitation
> > to expand one's awareness, both of self and of the world.
> > 
> > The sound in question is laughter. In particular, the sound of other
> > people laughing at you.
> > 
> > I've heard this sound a lot, because I studied with a spiritual teacher
> > who used it as almost a mahavakya to facilitate breakthroughs to higher
> > states of attention. Rama would poke merciless fun at us, his students,
> > often in front of an audience of hundreds of other students.
> > 
> > Whatever else he might have been, Rama was a natural comedian, as fast
> > on his feet as Robin Williams; he could find something funny in almost
> > any situation. He specialized in "finding the funny" in situations that
> > almost everyone around him treated with deadly seriousness. One of the
> > things that almost every spiritual aspirant takes seriously is their
> > self -- its stories, its importance, and above all its very seriousness.
> > This 'tude is seemingly endemic to the spiritual seeker, and often to
> > the spiritual path itself, as reflected by the very language that path
> > uses. A "good" student is described as a "serious" student; a "proper"
> > attitude to the study itself is described as "taking it seriously."
> > 
> > Color me not convinced of this. I'm with Christian philosopher G.K.
> > Chesterton, who said, "Seriousness is not a virtue." Not only do I agree
> > with him that there is no virtue in seriousness, I have come to believe
> > that seriousness is the very antithesis of spiritual practice. I believe
> > this because the few human beings I have encountered on this planet whom
> > I would suspect of being enlightened or close to it were funny as hell;
> > they could find a joke in *anything*. Including themselves.
> > 
> > Rama felt similarly. What was best about him is that he wisely included
> > himself in the list of "viable targets for humor." He was remarkably
> > self-effacing, and made himself the butt of his own jokes as often as he
> > did us. In my 14-odd (very odd) years with him, I shared the limelight
> > with him many times, and became the butt of many of his jokes.
> > 
> > Some of them roasted me mercilessly, and resulted in many of my fellow
> > students joining in the laughter. This presented me with a koan: "What
> > is the sound of one person not laughing, in a room full of laughing
> > people?" Fortunately, in almost every case I decided that the answer to
> > that koan was "An absolute boob who has started to take himself FAR too
> > seriously," lightened the fuck up, and joined in the laughter.
> > 
> > I rank doing so right up there with my highest satori experiences in
> > this life. Without exception, every time I managed to break through the
> > self importance of seriousness, I found my self dwindling to the tiny,
> > mischevious, and genuinely laughable imp it really was, and being
> > replaced by Self. There is IMO very little in life as liberating as
> > being able to laugh at oneself, and one's self.
> > 
> > IMO, the proper "soundtrack" of the movie or soap opera that is the
> > pathway to enlightenment is laughter. If your path doesn't have a "laugh
> > track," you might want to consider grabbing the remote and changing the
> > channel.
> > 
> > The sound of laughter -- especially when people are laughing at you --
> > is a double-edged sword. It presents you with a koan. You can choose to
> > reply to that koan with outrage and anger, or you c

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

Ha-Ha- wonder if that encouraged or discouraged them??

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
>
> 
>  I remember back in the day, during the Merv wave, a lot
> of initiations were taking place. One Saturday evening,
> after the last person was initiated and left to meditate, those who were 
> involved...teachers, helpers, etc., decided to go out to dinner.
> Unfortunately they forgot about the last initiate. A few hours later
>  when we returned to the center we noticed a pair of 
> shoes outside the door of the initiation room. When we opened the 
> door the initiate was still meditating. The only thing we would 
> say was "Was it easy."?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > Two of the jokes on standard TM speak I enjoyed the most:
> > 
> > Instead of saying, "Jai Guru Dev" at the conclusion of group meditation, 
> > saying, "Jai Edgar Hoover". 
> > 
> > Also, back when MUM was called MIU, I enjoyed calling it the "Maharishi 
> > International House Of Pancakes", or MI-HOP.:-) 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > turquoiseb:
> > > > What are the funniest stories from your 
> > > > days in the TMO?
> > > >
> > > Well, the funniest 'TMO Puja' story' for me 
> > > actually happened on the a.m.t Google Group. 
> > > 
> > > Everyone knows that the TM puja ingredients 
> > > consist of water, sandalwood powder, camphor, 
> > > fruit, flowers, and a white hankie. 
> > > 
> > > Not paraffin candles or punk incense! 
> > > 
> > > But, did you know that 'DHMO' used in the TM 
> > > Puja can kill you - it's highly toxic
> > > 
> > > LoL!
> > > 
> > > "I've done hundreds of TM Pujas. The only 
> > > 'ingredients' used are water, incense, fruit, 
> > > flowers, a candle, a white handkerchief and 
> > > camphor.
> > > 
> > > I've never heard of DHMO. Perhaps you could 
> > > clarify what the hell you are talking about, 
> > > eh?
> > > 
> > > BTW, I went to the website you provided. The 
> > > stuff seems to be toxic. So is nuclear waste. 
> > > But how do you connect DMHO with the TM Puja?"  
> > > 
> > > Subject: Re: DHMO update
> > > Author: John Manning
> > > Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> > > Date: March 16, 2004
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3b2l3k9
> > > 
> > > "It's pure, unadulterated, 100% sandalwood
> > > powder, babe.  If you weren't too much of an 
> > > alarmist hoping to suck attention to ask, you 
> > > might actually find *out* rather than guess.  
> > > :-)" 
> > > 
> > > Subject: Re: DHMO update
> > > Author: Uncle Tantra
> > > Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> > > Date: March 17, 2004
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3b2l3k9
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

This video is priceless, I'd never seen it, thank you, o, all true, with, yes, 
of course, one exception, not not-holy, but holy and sexy and perverted and 
charming and lovable and criminal and a trillion other things...   We really 
can put it all together because we really are all there is, and, more so, that 
which is beyond.

All together now, all you need is/ stop denying and avoiding everything, yes, 
with love.  Let's all do that, together, right...

Glad you're enjoying my rants.

m
 
On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:41 AM, obbajeeba wrote:

> "In's and out's of spiritual drama," happen all the time. For instance 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFwqUoO1JA a sickly stomach I felt when I 
> heard this song years ago, before the internet. There was a time I questioned 
> as to why John Lennon had an early demise and a meditating person once told 
> me it was because JL wrote that song. Years later, I am understanding John's 
> questioning purpose to the song. Is it very normal for spiritual growth to go 
> dual? 
> Then of course, I hear and read, Yoko (who performs on the above recording) 
> was present at the DLF CBW concert at the Radio City Music Hall in 2009, and 
> I am sure a donor to the DLF, so all is well now to create money for the 
> cause. This is a good example of "In's and Out's."...and back "In." Typical.
> Spiritual growth and investments in tax deductions for artists to keep their 
> name going, go hand in hand in the non profit world of music and art. 
> Mark is a creative being telling of his adventures and I am enjoying reading 
> them here on FFL. : )
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > tedadams108, I think Mark will learn soon enough the difference between 
> > getting caught up in the ins and outs of spiritual drama, and what it 
> > actually takes to survive in the world. Better late than never...
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > 
> > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) 
> > > who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" and 
> > > dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> > > that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros 
> > > and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. 
> > > I'll write the first check.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd 
> > > > let you know.
> > > > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting 
> > > > firm in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> > > > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > > > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> > > > skills, please let me know. The link is:
> > > > http://www.sky5.com/resume.html
> > > > Many thanks, m
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Double-Edged Sword

Is there anyone here who spent long and equal time with M and Rama?  I have one 
friend who felt that Rama's darshan blew M's away.  But she didn't spend nearly 
as much time with M as with R.  And, of course, two others who "saw" him fly 
and disappear.  Of course we know how he spiraled out of here.  And, of course, 
that's another thing we loved so much about being with M, how much and how 
warmly he and we all laughed together.

On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:10 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

> What is the sound that causes the most disparate reactions in people?
> Some can hear this sound and react with fury in the moment of hearing
> it, and seemingly hold on to that fury for years, basing whole vendettas
> on it. Others can hear the same sound and join in, as if adding harmony
> to an already-sweet song. To the former, this sound closes the door on
> any possible future communication or resonance with the person or
> persons who laughed at them forever; it is perceived as an affront that
> can never be forgiven, an offense that should and must be punished. To
> the latter, the same sound actually *opens* doors to enhanced
> communication and increased resonance; it is perceived as an invitation
> to expand one's awareness, both of self and of the world.
> 
> The sound in question is laughter. In particular, the sound of other
> people laughing at you.
> 
> I've heard this sound a lot, because I studied with a spiritual teacher
> who used it as almost a mahavakya to facilitate breakthroughs to higher
> states of attention. Rama would poke merciless fun at us, his students,
> often in front of an audience of hundreds of other students.
> 
> Whatever else he might have been, Rama was a natural comedian, as fast
> on his feet as Robin Williams; he could find something funny in almost
> any situation. He specialized in "finding the funny" in situations that
> almost everyone around him treated with deadly seriousness. One of the
> things that almost every spiritual aspirant takes seriously is their
> self -- its stories, its importance, and above all its very seriousness.
> This 'tude is seemingly endemic to the spiritual seeker, and often to
> the spiritual path itself, as reflected by the very language that path
> uses. A "good" student is described as a "serious" student; a "proper"
> attitude to the study itself is described as "taking it seriously."
> 
> Color me not convinced of this. I'm with Christian philosopher G.K.
> Chesterton, who said, "Seriousness is not a virtue." Not only do I agree
> with him that there is no virtue in seriousness, I have come to believe
> that seriousness is the very antithesis of spiritual practice. I believe
> this because the few human beings I have encountered on this planet whom
> I would suspect of being enlightened or close to it were funny as hell;
> they could find a joke in *anything*. Including themselves.
> 
> Rama felt similarly. What was best about him is that he wisely included
> himself in the list of "viable targets for humor." He was remarkably
> self-effacing, and made himself the butt of his own jokes as often as he
> did us. In my 14-odd (very odd) years with him, I shared the limelight
> with him many times, and became the butt of many of his jokes.
> 
> Some of them roasted me mercilessly, and resulted in many of my fellow
> students joining in the laughter. This presented me with a koan: "What
> is the sound of one person not laughing, in a room full of laughing
> people?" Fortunately, in almost every case I decided that the answer to
> that koan was "An absolute boob who has started to take himself FAR too
> seriously," lightened the fuck up, and joined in the laughter.
> 
> I rank doing so right up there with my highest satori experiences in
> this life. Without exception, every time I managed to break through the
> self importance of seriousness, I found my self dwindling to the tiny,
> mischevious, and genuinely laughable imp it really was, and being
> replaced by Self. There is IMO very little in life as liberating as
> being able to laugh at oneself, and one's self.
> 
> IMO, the proper "soundtrack" of the movie or soap opera that is the
> pathway to enlightenment is laughter. If your path doesn't have a "laugh
> track," you might want to consider grabbing the remote and changing the
> channel.
> 
> The sound of laughter -- especially when people are laughing at you --
> is a double-edged sword. It presents you with a koan. You can choose to
> reply to that koan with outrage and anger, or you can choose to lighten
> the fuck up and join in the laughter. Or, even better, take the joke
> that you are the butt of and riff on it, not only joining in with the
> laughter but "piling on" and provoking an even bigger laugh.
> 
> I've been reminded of such an occasion recently on the Rama-oriented
> forum I've mentioned recently. One woman recapitulated one of her
> all-time highest experiences with the dude. It was at one of our formal
> dinners -- the guys all we

[FairfieldLife] Re: George Clooney for President

2011-07-27 Thread John

With an acting background, Ronald Reagan became president.  Clooney could do 
the same.  His grey hair would fit the part as a president.  He can follow the 
lines in the old movie, "The Making of a President" which starred Robert 
Redford.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> That's the plot of an upcoming film called "Ides Of March," conceived
> of, co-written by, directed by and starring...uh...George Clooney. Can't
> wait. Story at the link.
> 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/ides-of-march-poster-george-clo\
> oney-ryan-gosling_n_910573.html
>  ooney-ryan-gosling_n_910573.html>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job

2011-07-27 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Bhairitu wrote:

> Well as someone who had to pour through resumes to hire people I have my 
> two bits too.  Too me a flashy looking resume didn't mean anything more 
> than the applicant had "a flashy looking resume."  It really tell me 
> anything as to whether they could do the job or not.  One of my best 
> hires was an engineer whose resume was about 5 unformatted pages long 
> and mainly just a dump of everything he had done.  If HR had done 
> filtering for me it his would have gone into the trash can.  But he came 
> in and had a program that showed his skills which was what we were 
> looking for.
> 
> A couple thoughts on Mark's, contrary to what's been said due to Mark's 
> age NO PICTURE.  In fact hide age as much as possible.  This is 
> especially true if the hiring manager is half Mark's age.  Put the 
> degrees earned in but no dates.  Also limit the employment trail to a 
> decade or so.  Fool 'em into thinking you're a youngster so you get an 
> interview.

Great idea, Bhair.  And as long as we're trying to 
fool 'em, why not go all the way and fool 'em into
thinking you're someone else entirely? Using a 
different name would do the trick nicely.
 So I would advise Mark to ditch his common name
for something really attention-getting~~how about 
Orion Landau, say, or Ludacris Landau?   Jasper
Landau might work, or even Abdul-Jabaar Landau.
I mean, it beats actually *doing* something other
than whining on an internet forum about how
desperate your situation is and then doing absolutely
nothing when good suggestions are offered.

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

My people will be calling your people to discuss residuals.

For more see: Rowing to Doha-Scene 4- (was conflict in Fiction)


From: obbajeeba 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 6:20:15 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume


  


Ahh. Thank you for bringing up the question.  What is the definition of: "Know 
thy audience?" 
The audience, could it be this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vaKllPg7k
or this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar4X-VK7p_I

A panel of FFL, who is?  : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Obbajeeba, I wasn't saying life is either spiritual or worldly, just that to 
> mix the two in terms of expression, while attempting to conduct business 
> doesn't work very well. I am not condoning an absence of spirituality, 
> whatever that may be, in one's life, at all. Just the opposite. "Know thy 
> audience", though.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > "In's and out's of spiritual drama,"  happen all the time. For instance 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFwqUoO1JA a sickly stomach I felt when I 
> > heard this song years ago, before the internet. There was a time I 
> > questioned as to why John Lennon had an early demise and a meditating 
> > person once told me it was because JL wrote that song. Years later, I am 
> > understanding John's questioning purpose to the song. Is it very normal for 
> > spiritual growth to go dual? 
> > Then of course, I hear and read, Yoko (who performs on the above recording) 
> > was present at the DLF CBW concert at the Radio City Music Hall in 2009, 
> > and I am sure a donor to the DLF, so all is well now to create money for 
> > the cause. This is a good example of "In's and Out's."...and back "In."  
> > Typical.
> > Spiritual growth and investments in tax deductions for artists to keep 
> > their name going, go hand in hand in the non profit world of music and art. 
> >  Mark is a creative being telling of his adventures and I am enjoying 
> > reading them here on FFL.  : )
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > tedadams108, I think Mark will learn soon enough the difference between 
> > > getting caught up in the ins and outs of spiritual drama, and what it 
> > > actually takes to survive in the world. Better late than never...
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > > 
> > > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man 
> > > > (Maharishi) who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > >  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" 
> > > > and dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > > > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > > > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation 
> > > > is that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the 
> > > > pros and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > > > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some 
> > > > money. I'll write the first check.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any

Re: [FairfieldLife] ZomGas 3 - A Reverse Zombie - (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)

Sal,

Thank you for your questions, all of them excellent. I have only one screaming 
teenager so my heart goes out to you.

When they are screaming the loudest just go to this link to know what one of 
your fans thinks of you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TqLmDhOdEc&feature=related




From: Sal Sunshine 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:53:04 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ZomGas 3 - A Reverse Zombie - (was Zombie in My 
Gas Tank)


  
On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Bob Price wrote:
Sal,
>
>
>
>I hope you realize, besides MZ, you're the only one I would do a reverse 
>Zombie for. 
> And I guess I can't insist on anything as civilized as using the 
>Proust Questionnaire
>(the heart and soul of Zombie) to provide questions to my answers?
>
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proust_Questionnaire
>
>
>
>As I'm sure you would expect, we have a placeholder, with your name, on ZomGas 
>2.
>
>
>And Mr. AZGREY, ratings whore that I am, I have to thank you for this 
>innovation.
>That said, put any thought of residuals out of your mind.

Bob, what you are proposing actually takes EFFORT,
and if there's one thing I usually can't manage, it's that.
Nevertheless, in between dealing with 3 screaming 
teenagers and trying to recover from my latest nervous
breakdown, I will take a crack at several that interest
me.

My answers for ZomGas 3 (in no particular order):
>
>1. Hanging with people that are right ALL the time.
>
>
>2. Smart, funny-leggy brunette, mid thirties with a Mediterranean accent.
>
>What is the very first siddhi?  (Official or non)

3. Wealth
>
>What is the very last one?

4. Generosity
>
>What one quality characterizes our once and fearless
leader, MMY?
5. Toughness
>
>
>6. Film director
>
>What do only the very desperate or the very
bored frequently engage in?

7. Posting on FFL
>
>Not sure, but I think it's a famous nickname in
one of Tennessee William's plays, put in mainly
because you probably forgot about Rosebud.
8.  Blue Roses
>
>Always found his novels boring, and I never got
past the cover.

9.  John le Carre
>
>You don't say?

10 Lao Tse
>
>I have plenty of it~~now shut up and stop asking
all these questions. 

11. Tolerance
>
>Inspirations for the modern GOP.

12. Hitler, Constantine the Great and Pol Pot
>
>I don't know, but it sounds yummy.

13. Lebanese food and pink grapefruit Perrier
>
>Was this what drove Hitler out of Russia?

14.  Battle of Stalingrad.
>
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>15.  What goes around comes around if you're not fast enough.
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>What's that got to do, got to do with it?

16.  Love
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>17.  Paranoid optimism
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>A...

18.  In the arms of my wife.
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>Two great but seriously f*cked composers

19.  Mozart and Henry the Eighth
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>Two great modern artists with the same first name.
20.  Mark Rothco and Marc Chagall
>
Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Ted,



So much low hanging fruit 
and so little time.




tedadams108 




but I thought it was a place
to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. 

I had thought this award should go to Willy (see snip below)
For naming such an illustrious group of analysts,

I was planning to suggest to him
we take the Texas bull by the horns
and establish the "FFL-Cliff Clavin award" for excellence.
But after reading your post this morning I say you take it
hands down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6GTZrcoWEM&feature=related


For more see: Rowing to Doha-Scene 4- (was conflict in fiction)

richardwillytexwilliams 




So, I get your point, but listen up, Pal, the 
only reason I'm still a reader here is because 
of you, Judy, BillyG, and Lawson. You're they 
only one's that seem to be really interested 
in discussing the mechanics of consciousness 
without going bat-shit crazy, you know what I 
mean? LoL!

For more see: Rowing to Doha-Scene 4- (was conflict in fiction)


tedadams108 




I demand first refusal on Charlie's Earth shoes.
As the only TM teacher who could handle a 
hockey puck Charlie's "The Man"!

For more see: Rowing to Doha-Scene 4- (was conflict in fiction)



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[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?


 I remember back in the day, during the Merv wave, a lot
of initiations were taking place. One Saturday evening,
after the last person was initiated and left to meditate, those who were 
involved...teachers, helpers, etc., decided to go out to dinner.
Unfortunately they forgot about the last initiate. A few hours later
 when we returned to the center we noticed a pair of 
shoes outside the door of the initiation room. When we opened the 
door the initiate was still meditating. The only thing we would 
say was "Was it easy."?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
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> Instead of saying, "Jai Guru Dev" at the conclusion of group meditation, 
> saying, "Jai Edgar Hoover". 
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> Also, back when MUM was called MIU, I enjoyed calling it the "Maharishi 
> International House Of Pancakes", or MI-HOP.:-) 
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams"  
> wrote:
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> > > What are the funniest stories from your 
> > > days in the TMO?
> > >
> > Well, the funniest 'TMO Puja' story' for me 
> > actually happened on the a.m.t Google Group. 
> > 
> > Everyone knows that the TM puja ingredients 
> > consist of water, sandalwood powder, camphor, 
> > fruit, flowers, and a white hankie. 
> > 
> > Not paraffin candles or punk incense! 
> > 
> > But, did you know that 'DHMO' used in the TM 
> > Puja can kill you - it's highly toxic
> > 
> > LoL!
> > 
> > "I've done hundreds of TM Pujas. The only 
> > 'ingredients' used are water, incense, fruit, 
> > flowers, a candle, a white handkerchief and 
> > camphor.
> > 
> > I've never heard of DHMO. Perhaps you could 
> > clarify what the hell you are talking about, 
> > eh?
> > 
> > BTW, I went to the website you provided. The 
> > stuff seems to be toxic. So is nuclear waste. 
> > But how do you connect DMHO with the TM Puja?"  
> > 
> > Subject: Re: DHMO update
> > Author: John Manning
> > Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> > Date: March 16, 2004
> > http://tinyurl.com/3b2l3k9
> > 
> > "It's pure, unadulterated, 100% sandalwood
> > powder, babe.  If you weren't too much of an 
> > alarmist hoping to suck attention to ask, you 
> > might actually find *out* rather than guess.  
> > :-)" 
> > 
> > Subject: Re: DHMO update
> > Author: Uncle Tantra
> > Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> > Date: March 17, 2004
> > http://tinyurl.com/3b2l3k9
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More "for"

2011-07-27 Thread emptybill

So you are saying Turg believes in a soul-monad?
Jiva means "living being" but not a "soul-monad".

However if we look at the Jaina-s (Jains) which
is pronounced "jIna" then it does make sense.

Their tag team works together and thus
their nom guerre works together.

Vag + jIna = vagina.

Thus the truth is now revealed.
All we needed was the FFL speculum!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams"
 wrote:

>
> emptybill:
> > That anther clue that the term "Soul-Monad" is
> > Theosophical speculation...
> >
> Doesn't matter - it's what the Turq says he believes
> in: the Soul-Monad; the Being; the Inner-Self.
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> The Monad: Your Soul, Your Higher-Self, Your Spirit.
> http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/rc4/hrc4-07.shtml
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Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?

2011-07-27 Thread Bhairitu

Knowing some ayurveda is useful.  Insomnia is often related to a vata 
imbalance though in summer excess pitta can cause it.  Cooling and 
calming herbs are useful.  Spearmint tea is cooling for pitta and 
somewhat calming for vata.  Comfrey is also a good tea to use.  Dr. 
Lad's vata tea consists of equal amounts of cumin, coriander and 
ginger.  But if pitta might be an issue reduce or omit the ginger.  Even 
back in the 1980s I kept a bottle of valerian root tablets next to my 
bed to allay insomnia.  "Ram" is a calming mantra for vata.
I've also successfully used this tribal mantra to bring on sleep:
http://www.intentblog.com/archives/2007/02/health_tip_of_t_1.html

On 07/27/2011 09:40 AM, Denise Evans wrote:
> Sleep deprivation is a chronic issue - does TM allow you to nap at will?
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> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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>> benefits with few, if any, side effects, it would be a
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>> Transcendental Meditation
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>> 1979.[2] At the same time he began a research fellowship with Fredrick 
>> Goodwin at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, 
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>> eventually became the director of seasonal studies at the institute and in 
>> 1985 led research with 160 participants on the effects of SAD and later 
>> studied the psycho-physiological phenomena of "spring fever". [5][6]
> If TM were a drug, it would be an unapproved one. First put in the
> market because of it's wonderful effects then quickly taken off the
> market because of its horrific side effects. This happens with drugs
> all the time as clinicians start noting dangerous side effects with a
> wider population than in the studies, though many of the ontoward side
> effects observed during clinical trials are swept under the rug.
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> with the ability to waste lives at least as often as heroin.
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> because although they have a profile where the dangerous side effects
> are about as frequent as their useful properties, these drugs are
> prescribed in tightly monitored situations. That's not the situation
> with TM, where it's get everyone to buy it and many to use it 8 hours
> a day and if there's a problem, get more rest, take more time before
> going into activity after taking the drug, something good is happening
> or it's the patient's fault, they weren't suitable for the drug.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume


Mark,

I'm sending you a cashier's check in amount of $20. I know it's 
not much but it's all I feel I can afford in this economy. I hope
it helps. If things improve with me financially I'll follow up
with more. Hopefully others on here will follow my lead and lend you
a helping hand. Feel free to post on here when you receive the check.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> I'll take it.  I'm not proud.  I can even take credit cards.  No donations of 
> less than a dollar accepted.  See:
> http://www.sky5.com/pay.htm
> 
> Do you really still think I only hold M and TM and everything TM related with 
> only contempt and ridicule?  If so, you have a huge blind spot.
> 
> And, regarding my situation, if things remain as as, I'll be homeless and 
> penniless in about four months.  And, here I am, spending all my time on 
> FFL...  (No, I haven't expended one more iota of energy on selling M's 
> sandals since this whole thing began, though, today, hopefully, I will get 
> around to taking their photo with a camera I borrowed from a neighbor.)
> 
> But, really, Ted, if that is your name, I think there is some deeper purpose 
> in your reactions to me.  If I trigger you so effectively, there must be some 
> important thing or things we have in common.
> 
> Perhaps your bringing up the sweet truth so long ago has something to do with 
> this.  I was thinking I'd respond to that but then decided to let others deal 
> with it.
> 
> But it's probably more my seeming chutzpah, over the top opportunism and 
> hypocrisy.
> 
> If you're willing, take the time to look deeply into yourself to see what's 
> really going on here.  Everything "out there" is a reflection of what's "in 
> here."  The things that trigger us are the things we haven't fully met with 
> and processed within ourselves.  If you really come up with it, interactions 
> between us might become fruitful.
> 
> m
> 
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > To Whom It May Concern:
> > 
> > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) 
> > who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > (David Wants To Fly).
> > Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" and 
> > dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> > that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros 
> > and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. 
> > I'll write the first check.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > >
> > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd 
> > > let you know.
> > > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting 
> > > firm in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> > > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> > > skills, please let me know. The link is:
> > > http://www.sky5.com/resume.html
> > > Many thanks, m
> > >
> > 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 4 - A Reverse Zombie - (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)

Thank you this. My only tweak is giving your interview its own whole number, 

this will be needed for the award season. There are obviously a number of your
questions that will be nominated, in an number of categories, at the annual 
"ZomGas" 
awards. My favourite is question 12 although many others are standouts.

I will also take this opportunity to cross market my series. I know you 
understand
the commercial demands of the marketplace. I had thought of starting my cross 
marketing
campaign on a tedadams108 post, notwithstanding his inflamed passions, but I 
have something
else I think he richly deserves.

For more see:

Rowing to Doha -Scene 4 - (was conflict in fiction) 

From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:14:35 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 3 - A Reverse Zombie - (was Zombie in My 
Gas Tank)

Bob, I'm not Sal, being neither as attractive nor as
funny as her fans have suggested. Heck, I'm not even
sure I'd ever have fans. But I'll play Karnak and 
give these answers a shot because it seems like a 
fun way to pass some time.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> My answers for ZomGas 3 (in no particular order):
> 
> 1. Hanging with people that are right ALL the time.

Q: What is the real rationale behind the TMO's "dome 
pass" policy?

> 2. Smart, funny-leggy brunette, mid thirties with a 
> Mediterranean accent.

Q: What does Bevan Morris look like when he cruises
the drag queen bars on his nights off?

> 3. Wealth

Q: What did Maharishi really hope to "accomplish" by
"doing less and accomplishing more?"

> 4. Generosity

Q: What does the TMO call lowering the price for learning
TM, the 4 required advanced techniques, and the TM-Sidhi
technique from $15,000 to $9000?

> 5. Toughness

Q: What is the quality most required to make it through 
one of Bevan Morris' speeches without laughing?

> 6. Film director

Q: What does David Lynch, now that he has become the 
subject of someone else's movie, wish that he'd stayed
instead of becoming a sock puppet for the TMO?

> 7. Posting on FFL

Q: What activity can simultaneously enable some people
to take themselves less seriously and learn to laugh
at themselves, but in others cause them to take them-
selves even more seriously and live a life character-
ized by near-constant rage? 

> 8. Blue Roses

Q: Given the flower metaphor that poets throughout the 
centuries have used to describe the female genitalia,
what do you call the female counterpart of the sexual 
frustration that in men would be called "blue balls?"

> 9. John le Carre

Q: Given the author's ability to make fat, dumpy, 
nondescript, and basically uninteresting George Smiley 
a hero, who does Bevan Morris hope will write his 
biography?

> 10 Lao Tse

Q: Which author, taunted by detractors who said "No way" 
when he claimed that he could write a book about the 
spiritual path that wasn't a rehash of every other 
spiritual book ever written, replied "Way"

> 11. Tolerance

Q: How does the Course Office explain the practice of
allowing people who have had their dome passes taken
away to continue to live in Fairfield, or at all?

> 12. Hitler, Constantine the Great and Pol Pot

Q: Given the living world leaders Maharishi praised 
and named as honorary Governors of the Age of Enlight-
enment, which deceased world leaders would be at the 
top of his list if they'd still been alive?

> 13. Lebanese food and pink grapefruit Perrier

Q: What lunch combination would you least like to see
a second time, if hit by a sudden bout of seasickness?

> 14. Battle of Stalingrad.

Q: How do some TMers view the experience of having to
post on a free speech forum like Fairfield Life?

> 15. What goes around comes around if you're not fast enough.

Q: How does a dog explain why it keeps chasing its tail,
even though it never seems to catch it?

> 16. Love

Q: What do MUM Course Office officials call taking away 
someone's dome pass?

> 17. Paranoid optimism

Q: What does a long-tailed cat feel, eyeing a mouse on the 
other side of a room full of people in rocking chairs, just
before deciding to go for it?

> 18. In the arms of my wife.

Q: What is the place that most men simultaneously consider 
the best place in the world for them, but the worst place
in the world for other men?

> 19. Mozart and Henry the Eighth 

Q: Who, besides Lewis and Clark and Sacagawea, appeared
as characters in the episode of the Simpsons entitled 
"Margical History Tour?"

> 20. Mark Rothko and Marc Chagall

Q: Who are two modern artists of Russian heritage whose 
works you are actually relieved that you can't afford?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job

Thank you for this great advice.  I'm glad to hear that pics aren't the way to 
go - seems to promote discrimination to some degree.  I agree with the "down on 
flashy" advice, but simple, clean structure is always appreciated - hence the 
nudge to Mark on that.  In my business...it was a requirement.
Its good practice to have lunch with other professional friends and practice 
how to network.  I went to a class once called "marketing for engineers"...not 
always a primary skill of these types of thinkers, but good to practice.  And, 
everyone I know who has gotten a job of late, hasn't gotten it by sending out 
resumes, but through the grace of a contact that knew they could do the job, as 
you mentioned.

--- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu  wrote:

From: Bhairitu 
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:28 AM

  Well as someone who had to pour through resumes to hire people I have my 

two bits too.  Too me a flashy looking resume didn't mean anything more 

than the applicant had "a flashy looking resume."  It really tell me 

anything as to whether they could do the job or not.  One of my best 

hires was an engineer whose resume was about 5 unformatted pages long 

and mainly just a dump of everything he had done.  If HR had done 

filtering for me it his would have gone into the trash can.  But he came 

in and had a program that showed his skills which was what we were 

looking for.

A couple thoughts on Mark's, contrary to what's been said due to Mark's 

age NO PICTURE.  In fact hide age as much as possible.  This is 

especially true if the hiring manager is half Mark's age.  Put the 

degrees earned in but no dates.  Also limit the employment trail to a 

decade or so.  Fool 'em into thinking you're a youngster so you get an 

interview.

On networking, some people can do it and do it well.  But others can 

not..  But that doesn't mean they won't be any good at the job.  There 

are "people people" and there are "things people."  For some jobs you 

may definitely need a people person but for others like computer 

programming it isn't so important.

Some people interview well and others don't.  You can easily wind up 

with someone who is flashy at the interview and can't do the job.

Right now the employment scene is just plain silly.  Even back in the 

day we were warned about "gaps in employment".  But if I had to apply 

for the job I held I might not have even gotten an interview.  The 

reason I was given the job was that I was an outside contractor for the 

company and they knew my work.   So the interview consisted of "you want 

the job" and "when can you start?"  I interviewed people who took some 

time out to learn new things.  I found that a good sign.  HR often had 

lame ideas anyway.  This article sums up the issue and do read the 

comments.  They will tell you more about the job scene than the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/business/help-wanted-ads-exclude-the-long-term-jobless.html

I've  been saying for years that putting well educated and experienced 

people out of work for anything more than short time is a recipe for 

revolution.

On 07/27/2011 01:04 AM, Denise Evans wrote:

> Hi Mark:

> Lookin good - adventurous of you to post it here :)  I have a friend who's a 
> VP in a consulting firm that gave me some advice on my resume...

> 1) Use an up-to-date format and fontI would block yours a bit differently 
> and add a few "rules/lines" to give it better structure, and maybe update the 
> header font.  

> 2)Add a picture - Are you averse to putting your picture in the left hand 
> corner?...I've been resisting this because I don't photograph well, but I am 
> told this is becoming standard practice in many companies...they want to see 
> what you look like first :)

> 3) If you can hit the high points in a well designed resume in one page - 
> that's ideal.  Not sure you need all that on the back end quite that far back 
> - could consolidate it into 3 bullets under a single category maybe.  

> Don't take this wrong...I did a lot of proposals and resume's in my line of 
> work, so I edit by nature.

> I'm in a design class right nowit's all about being bold and creative in 
> the sell.

> I have about 6 versions of resumes.

> Network, networkI got two interviews out of past contacts before I 
> decided to go to school and take the summer off...I've been too beat to do 
> much of anything. 

> Unemployment has been good to me...able to get some time off with the kids in 
> for the first time in many, many, a year.  Gluten-free is treating me well.  
> Dropped 15 pounds and stabilized at just 10 too high.  Things are lookin up!

>

> --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Mark Landau  wrote:

>

> From: Mark Landau

> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job

> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 6:18 P

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

Two of the jokes on standard TM speak I enjoyed the most:

Instead of saying, "Jai Guru Dev" at the conclusion of group meditation, 
saying, "Jai Edgar Hoover". 

Also, back when MUM was called MIU, I enjoyed calling it the "Maharishi 
International House Of Pancakes", or MI-HOP.:-) 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams"  
wrote:
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> turquoiseb:
> > What are the funniest stories from your 
> > days in the TMO?
> >
> Well, the funniest 'TMO Puja' story' for me 
> actually happened on the a.m.t Google Group. 
> 
> Everyone knows that the TM puja ingredients 
> consist of water, sandalwood powder, camphor, 
> fruit, flowers, and a white hankie. 
> 
> Not paraffin candles or punk incense! 
> 
> But, did you know that 'DHMO' used in the TM 
> Puja can kill you - it's highly toxic
> 
> LoL!
> 
> "I've done hundreds of TM Pujas. The only 
> 'ingredients' used are water, incense, fruit, 
> flowers, a candle, a white handkerchief and 
> camphor.
> 
> I've never heard of DHMO. Perhaps you could 
> clarify what the hell you are talking about, 
> eh?
> 
> BTW, I went to the website you provided. The 
> stuff seems to be toxic. So is nuclear waste. 
> But how do you connect DMHO with the TM Puja?"  
> 
> Subject: Re: DHMO update
> Author: John Manning
> Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> Date: March 16, 2004
> http://tinyurl.com/3b2l3k9
> 
> "It's pure, unadulterated, 100% sandalwood
> powder, babe.  If you weren't too much of an 
> alarmist hoping to suck attention to ask, you 
> might actually find *out* rather than guess.  
> :-)" 
> 
> Subject: Re: DHMO update
> Author: Uncle Tantra
> Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
> Date: March 17, 2004
> http://tinyurl.com/3b2l3k9
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> I'll take it.  I'm not proud.  I can even take credit cards.  No donations of 
> less than a dollar accepted.  See:
> http://www.sky5.com/pay.htm
> 
> Do you really still think I only hold M and TM and everything TM related with 
> only contempt and ridicule?  If so, you have a huge blind spot.
> 
> And, regarding my situation, if things remain as as, I'll be homeless and 
> penniless in about four months.  And, here I am, spending all my time on 
> FFL...  (No, I haven't expended one more iota of energy on selling M's 
> sandals since this whole thing began, though, today, hopefully, I will get 
> around to taking their photo with a camera I borrowed from a neighbor.)
> 
> But, really, Ted, if that is your name, I think there is some deeper purpose 
> in your reactions to me.  If I trigger you so effectively, there must be some 
> important thing or things we have in common.
> 
> Perhaps your bringing up the sweet truth so long ago has something to do with 
> this.  I was thinking I'd respond to that but then decided to let others deal 
> with it.
> 
> But it's probably more my seeming chutzpah, over the top opportunism and 
> hypocrisy.
> 
> If you're willing, take the time to look deeply into yourself to see what's 
> really going on here.  Everything "out there" is a reflection of what's "in 
> here."  The things that trigger us are the things we haven't fully met with 
> and processed within ourselves.  If you really come up with it, interactions 
> between us might become fruitful.
> 
> m
> 
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, tedadams108 wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > To Whom It May Concern:
> > 
> > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) 
> > who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > (David Wants To Fly).
> > Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" and 
> > dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> > that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros 
> > and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. 
> > I'll write the first check.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > >
> > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd 
> > > let you know.
> > > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting 
> > > firm in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> > > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> > > skills, please let me know. The link is:
> > > http://www.sky5.com/resume.html
> > > Many thanks, m
> > >
> > 
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume


Turq,

Everyone is entitled to their opinion... you, me, Mark, etc.
As I read posts and get to know people on here,
it becomes obvious how a particular person is going to respond.
Again, people on here seem to fit into two camps, each with some bias. Despite
the way I composed my posts, I don't feel I fit into one 
particular camp or another as your responses reflect. I was
just pointing out things that I felt were . inconsistent.
I guess there was some value because my posts did spur quite
a lot of response both supportive and non-supportive. Nothing
wrong with the debate even though that was not my intent. I 
recognize that people have strong opinions both pro and con
about Maharishi and the Movement, and that's going to
affect their take on what I said whether or not I made a valid point. 
I'm confident Mark is the same Mark I use to know in the 70s
and as such is a good person. My intent was to point out 
what he did, not comment on who he is. I had an issue with what
he said and was motivated to say something about it, to voice
my opinion. I'm sure Mark's heart is the same as it was when
I knew him 40 years ago. Even though I disagree with what he
has done, he was, and likely still is, a good person.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Ted, 
> 
> I wanted to write to congratulate you on your posts about
> Mark so far, but also to chide you a bit for not being as
> On The Program as you should be, TM-organization-wise.
> 
> In your first posts on the subject, you correctly pointed
> out that Mark being out of work was entirely his fault for
> not following every instruction given him by Maharishi, and
> that it wasn't related in any way to the 14+ million other
> Americans who are currently in the same position. 
> 
> Then, exhibiting the TLC (Tough Love Compassion) that Maha-
> rishi taught, you did everything in your power to prevent
> him from selling an asset that many (including many strong
> TMers) would find valuable. Again, I congratulate you for 
> that, because anyone who says anything less than compli-
> mentary about Maharishi MUST be punished, and severely. 
> I'm sure that many lurkers here (and many pro-TM posters)
> joined you in hoping that Mark would starve to death in
> some dark alley, the way that any such heretic deserved 
> to do. 
> 
> Now, in this post, you try again to keep him from finding
> a job, which is admirable, but in my opinion not *nearly*
> enough. Mark must be made to PAY for speaking his mind,
> and speaking openly to a filmmaker about Maharishi, and
> telling the truth. This is as heretical an offense today
> as it was in the Middle Ages, and IMO should be punished 
> the same way.
> 
> As one of the Inquisitors of the Age Of Enlightenment, I
> recommend that you stop all this polite "sweet truth"
> pussyfooting around and just cut to the chase. Burn Mark
> at the stake. If possible, in front of a large cheering
> crowd of your fellow devout TMers. 
> 
> I did a little Googling, and have found that Builder's
> Emporium is having a sale this week on tar, pitch, and
> large bundles of firewood. I would take advantage of
> this if I were you, because in today's economy you might
> not be able to count on even Invincibility to keep you
> employed, and thus able to buy the "tools of your trade."
> 
> When you perform this holy yagya of purification, don't
> forget to bring the proper clean white handkerchief and
> a piece of fresh fruit to throw into the flames along
> with him. You might also want to consider adding the
> following verse to the puja itself: "Offering Mark to 
> the flames of liberation, I bow down." I'm pretty
> sure that Maharishi wouldn't mind.
> 
> Turq
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> >
> > To Whom It May Concern:
> > 
> > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I 
> > thought was the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the 
> > sandals of a man (Maharishi) who was criticized by the 
> > seller(Mark)in a film (David Wants To Fly).
> >  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to 
> > be Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > be the T

Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?

Sleep deprivation is a chronic issue - does TM allow you to nap at will?

--- On Fri, 7/22/11, Vaj  wrote:

From: Vaj 
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 5:00 AM

On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:27 AM, cardemaister  wrote:
>
>
> "If Transcendental Meditation were a drug, conferring so many
> benefits with few, if any, side effects, it would be a
> billion-dollar blockbuster."
>
> - Norman E. Rosenthal, Transcendence: Healing and Transformation Through 
> Transcendental Meditation
>
> Wiki:
>
> Rosenthal began a private practice in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. in 
> 1979.[2] At the same time he began a research fellowship with Fredrick 
> Goodwin at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, 
> Maryland. [3]This was the beginning of a 20 year career with the NIMH as a 
> Researcher, Research Fellow, and Senior Researcher.[2][4] Rosenthal 
> eventually became the director of seasonal studies at the institute and in 
> 1985 led research with 160 participants on the effects of SAD and later 
> studied the psycho-physiological phenomena of "spring fever". [5][6]

If TM were a drug, it would be an unapproved one. First put in the
market because of it's wonderful effects then quickly taken off the
market because of its horrific side effects. This happens with drugs
all the time as clinicians start noting dangerous side effects with a
wider population than in the studies, though many of the ontoward side
effects observed during clinical trials are swept under the rug.

TM would be eventually be classified as a Schedule I drug in the US,
with the ability to waste lives at least as often as heroin.

There are dangerous drugs which are put on and kept on the market
because although they have a profile where the dangerous side effects
are about as frequent as their useful properties, these drugs are
prescribed in tightly monitored situations. That's not the situation
with TM, where it's get everyone to buy it and many to use it 8 hours
a day and if there's a problem, get more rest, take more time before
going into activity after taking the drug, something good is happening
or it's the patient's fault, they weren't suitable for the drug.
LOL!
Actually, if TM were a drug there'd be massive lawsuits as it was found out the 
research results were fudged and/or faked to exaggerate the desire outcome.
Sound crazy? This is actually what happened quite recently when TM researchers 
were found fudging data to make TM look better than it ever was. An old trend 
in this very dishonest org - ever since Keith Wallace was found manipulating 
the baseline on TM research of metabolic rate, falsely making it look like TM 
reduced metabolic rate wildly. 
It turns out TM reduces metabolic rate no differently than napping (which is 
actually what the majority of TMers are doing).
Of course some anonymous person would leak the chart found in of the FFL files 
section which shows that TM is actually the worst of all techniques for 
reducing BP. Even regular mantra meditation was better! WTF?
TM TBs would start laying on the train tracks in FF again and trying to jump 
from the three story buildings downtown. Overdoses of Amrit Kalash would send 
physicians scrambling for insulin. Sidhas would introduce garlic into their 
diets and begin mating like rabbits. MUM students would burn their silk asana 
pants in campus-wide protests. Robin Carlsen would drop pamphlets on the dome, 
while blasting Lady Gaga from loudspeakers. 
The pamphlets would be so long, no one would read them and everything would 
return to normal.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

I'll take it.  I'm not proud.  I can even take credit cards.  No donations of 
less than a dollar accepted.  See:
http://www.sky5.com/pay.htm

Do you really still think I only hold M and TM and everything TM related with 
only contempt and ridicule?  If so, you have a huge blind spot.

And, regarding my situation, if things remain as as, I'll be homeless and 
penniless in about four months.  And, here I am, spending all my time on FFL... 
 (No, I haven't expended one more iota of energy on selling M's sandals since 
this whole thing began, though, today, hopefully, I will get around to taking 
their photo with a camera I borrowed from a neighbor.)

But, really, Ted, if that is your name, I think there is some deeper purpose in 
your reactions to me.  If I trigger you so effectively, there must be some 
important thing or things we have in common.

Perhaps your bringing up the sweet truth so long ago has something to do with 
this.  I was thinking I'd respond to that but then decided to let others deal 
with it.

But it's probably more my seeming chutzpah, over the top opportunism and 
hypocrisy.

If you're willing, take the time to look deeply into yourself to see what's 
really going on here.  Everything "out there" is a reflection of what's "in 
here."  The things that trigger us are the things we haven't fully met with and 
processed within ourselves.  If you really come up with it, interactions 
between us might become fruitful.

m

On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:24 AM, tedadams108 wrote:

> 
> 
> To Whom It May Concern:
> 
> As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) who 
> was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> (David Wants To Fly).
> Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" and 
> dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> worthy to be put in your resume. 
> Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros and 
> cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. I'll 
> write the first check.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> >
> > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd let 
> > you know.
> > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting firm 
> > in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> > skills, please let me know. The link is:
> > http://www.sky5.com/resume.html
> > Many thanks, m
> >
> 
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job

2011-07-27 Thread Bhairitu

Well as someone who had to pour through resumes to hire people I have my 
two bits too.  Too me a flashy looking resume didn't mean anything more 
than the applicant had "a flashy looking resume."  It really tell me 
anything as to whether they could do the job or not.  One of my best 
hires was an engineer whose resume was about 5 unformatted pages long 
and mainly just a dump of everything he had done.  If HR had done 
filtering for me it his would have gone into the trash can.  But he came 
in and had a program that showed his skills which was what we were 
looking for.

A couple thoughts on Mark's, contrary to what's been said due to Mark's 
age NO PICTURE.  In fact hide age as much as possible.  This is 
especially true if the hiring manager is half Mark's age.  Put the 
degrees earned in but no dates.  Also limit the employment trail to a 
decade or so.  Fool 'em into thinking you're a youngster so you get an 
interview.

On networking, some people can do it and do it well.  But others can 
not..  But that doesn't mean they won't be any good at the job.  There 
are "people people" and there are "things people."  For some jobs you 
may definitely need a people person but for others like computer 
programming it isn't so important.

Some people interview well and others don't.  You can easily wind up 
with someone who is flashy at the interview and can't do the job.

Right now the employment scene is just plain silly.  Even back in the 
day we were warned about "gaps in employment".  But if I had to apply 
for the job I held I might not have even gotten an interview.  The 
reason I was given the job was that I was an outside contractor for the 
company and they knew my work.   So the interview consisted of "you want 
the job" and "when can you start?"  I interviewed people who took some 
time out to learn new things.  I found that a good sign.  HR often had 
lame ideas anyway.  This article sums up the issue and do read the 
comments.  They will tell you more about the job scene than the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/26/business/help-wanted-ads-exclude-the-long-term-jobless.html

I've  been saying for years that putting well educated and experienced 
people out of work for anything more than short time is a recipe for 
revolution.

On 07/27/2011 01:04 AM, Denise Evans wrote:
> Hi Mark:
> Lookin good - adventurous of you to post it here :)  I have a friend who's a 
> VP in a consulting firm that gave me some advice on my resume...
> 1) Use an up-to-date format and fontI would block yours a bit differently 
> and add a few "rules/lines" to give it better structure, and maybe update the 
> header font.  
> 2)Add a picture - Are you averse to putting your picture in the left hand 
> corner?...I've been resisting this because I don't photograph well, but I am 
> told this is becoming standard practice in many companies...they want to see 
> what you look like first :)
> 3) If you can hit the high points in a well designed resume in one page - 
> that's ideal.  Not sure you need all that on the back end quite that far back 
> - could consolidate it into 3 bullets under a single category maybe.  
> Don't take this wrong...I did a lot of proposals and resume's in my line of 
> work, so I edit by nature.
> I'm in a design class right nowit's all about being bold and creative in 
> the sell.
> I have about 6 versions of resumes.
> Network, networkI got two interviews out of past contacts before I 
> decided to go to school and take the summer off...I've been too beat to do 
> much of anything. 
> Unemployment has been good to me...able to get some time off with the kids in 
> for the first time in many, many, a year.  Gluten-free is treating me well.  
> Dropped 15 pounds and stabilized at just 10 too high.  Things are lookin up!
>
> --- On Tue, 7/26/11, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> From: Mark Landau
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 6:18 PM
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>Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought 
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> I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting firm in 
> charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
>
> I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
>
> If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> skills, please let me know.  The link is:
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?



turquoiseb:
> What are the funniest stories from your 
> days in the TMO?
>
Well, the funniest 'TMO Puja' story' for me 
actually happened on the a.m.t Google Group. 

Everyone knows that the TM puja ingredients 
consist of water, sandalwood powder, camphor, 
fruit, flowers, and a white hankie. 

Not paraffin candles or punk incense! 

But, did you know that 'DHMO' used in the TM 
Puja can kill you - it's highly toxic

LoL!

"I've done hundreds of TM Pujas. The only 
'ingredients' used are water, incense, fruit, 
flowers, a candle, a white handkerchief and 
camphor.

I've never heard of DHMO. Perhaps you could 
clarify what the hell you are talking about, 
eh?

BTW, I went to the website you provided. The 
stuff seems to be toxic. So is nuclear waste. 
But how do you connect DMHO with the TM Puja?"  

Subject: Re: DHMO update
Author: John Manning
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: March 16, 2004
http://tinyurl.com/3b2l3k9

"It's pure, unadulterated, 100% sandalwood
powder, babe.  If you weren't too much of an 
alarmist hoping to suck attention to ask, you 
might actually find *out* rather than guess.  
:-)" 

Subject: Re: DHMO update
Author: Uncle Tantra
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: March 17, 2004
http://tinyurl.com/3b2l3k9

[FairfieldLife] "Europa"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlZwK3NedGY

[FairfieldLife] Re: More "for"

2011-07-27 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius

Thank you for your reply. I have a busy day or two ahead, and I want to digest 
this, but I am not dropping it. Just a few comments in the meantime. While 
spiritual traditions often 'recommend' specific types of behaviour, 
enlightenment itself does not prescribe or proscribe any kind of behaviour; 
whatever the world does is what happens. The conceptual view of the world we 
have determines much of the reality of what we see in it, how we interpret 
events, and how we think other people are. These concepts are different for 
every person, and their reality is not universal, they exist only the world of 
our mind. Barry's post #51036 was unkind. But that was six years ago. Some 
loosening up of the darker shades of thought must have occurred in that time, 
unless evolution of experience has frozen in time for both of you. It's a 
stress. Stress blocks the ability to appreciate in a simple direct way and 
appreciation then comes through in a tortured constricted manner. I infer that 
by analogy because I had a streak like that in me when in my 20s; I am not even 
sure it is completely gone, but it has been significantly worn away. Life does 
not have the requirement that you 'like' Barry and vice versa. There are no 
contradictions on the level of being, only in the mind do they exist; it is the 
resolution of those contradictions in the wider field of experience that brings 
us peace, but those contradictions still remain as contradictions in the mind, 
in logic. Everything one sees in the world, even our mental projections, is 
authentic, and absolute; lack of tolerance for what is absolute gets one 
nowhere. This does not mean you cannot change the world or cannot make it a 
better place, but you have to flow with the world because it is far more vast 
than anyone's individuality.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Xeno, but I'm not playing, for a couple of reasons.
> > > Just for one thing, I don't think it's an accident that
> > > you've picked the female side of this long-running dispute
> > > to characterize as having a "large emotional component." I
> > > decline to cooperate with that perspective.
> >
> 
> > If you think from some kind of feminist perspective I am 
> > characterising you on the basis of gender differences,
> > you should put that aside.
> 
> Let's put it this way, it was a bad way to start. I'm sure
> you mean well, but you extend the offense by referring to
> it dismissively as "some kind of feminist perspective."
> 
> I'm just not interested in dealing with that, sorry.
> 
> 
> > I, newbe on this forum, am not concerned with the past so
> > much. I did look up Barry's first post on this forum, and
> > I found it hilarious.
> 
> Try post #51036, see if you find that hilarious. It's far
> from the only one of its kind. You'll have to forgive me
> if I'm highly dubious that a man who enjoyed making that
> kind of post in his late 50s is likely to have undergone
> much of a change by his mid-60s in the way he thinks.
> 
> 
> > > Finally, I have to wonder if you picked the wrong post of
> > > mine to use as the basis of your commentary. It was a simple
> > > observation about the hypocrisy of Barry's post in light of
> > > things he's said previously. I fail to see how that could
> > > be construed as anything but analytical, and his post sure
> > > didn't involve much in the way of "nuance" in that regard.
> > 
> > Seeing hypocricy is a subtle form of ad hominem.
> 
> Oh, please. It's a criticism.
> 
> > If someone is inconsistent, even deliberately so, to point
> > out what they say *now* as opposed to *then* and concluding
> > that as a result of that what they say *now* must therefore
> > be false is a logical error.
> 
> That wasn't what I concluded. There's no way to tell which
> is "true" and which is "false" (I assume you mean which of
> the two he believes). The point is that he made a
> recommendation of a practice the purported results of which
> do not show up in his behavior--to the contrary--and he sees
> no problem with that whatsoever; whereas he has repeatedly
> made a *huge* deal of TMers not behaving according to some
> standard of enlightened perfection and concluding that
> therefore TM doesn't work. I seriously doubt he even sees
> the contradiction.
> 
> That's one of my major criticism of him. I see him as an
> intellectual fraud (and as a phony in most other respects
> as well). I have little tolerance for inauthenticity.
> 
> And I think I'll stop there for now.
>

[FairfieldLife] For Nabby - ‪The Message of the Pleiadians‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-27 Thread Rick Archer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRta1xu6FY 
 
&feature=player_embedded

[FairfieldLife] George Clooney for President

That's the plot of an upcoming film called "Ides Of March," conceived
of, co-written by, directed by and starring...uh...George Clooney. Can't
wait. Story at the link.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/ides-of-march-poster-george-clo\
oney-ryan-gosling_n_910573.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] ZomGas 3 - A Reverse Zombie - (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)

2011-07-27 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Bob Price wrote:

> Sal,
> 
> I hope you realize, besides MZ, you're the only one I would do a reverse 
> Zombie for. 
>  And I guess I can't insist on anything as civilized as using the Proust 
> Questionnaire
> (the heart and soul of Zombie) to provide questions to my answers?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proust_Questionnaire
> 
> As I'm sure you would expect, we have a placeholder, with your name, on 
> ZomGas 2.
> 
> And Mr. AZGREY, ratings whore that I am, I have to thank you for this 
> innovation.
> That said, put any thought of residuals out of your mind.

Bob, what you are proposing actually takes EFFORT,
and if there's one thing I usually can't manage, it's that.
Nevertheless, in between dealing with 3 screaming 
teenagers and trying to recover from my latest nervous
breakdown, I will take a crack at several that interest
me.


> My answers for ZomGas 3 (in no particular order):

> 
> 1. Hanging with people that are right ALL the time.
> 
> 2. Smart, funny-leggy brunette, mid thirties with a Mediterranean accent.
> 
What is the very first siddhi?  (Official or non)
> 3. Wealth
> 
What is the very last one?
> 4. Generosity
> 
What one quality characterizes our once and fearless
leader, MMY?
> 5. Toughness
> 
> 6. Film director
> 
What do only the very desperate or the very
bored frequently engage in?
> 7. Posting on FFL
> 
Not sure, but I think it's a famous nickname in
one of Tennessee William's plays, put in mainly
because you probably forgot about Rosebud.
> 8.  Blue Roses
> 
Always found his novels boring, and I never got
past the cover.
> 9.  John le Carre
> 
You don't say?
> 10 Lao Tse
> 
I have plenty of it~~now shut up and stop asking
all these questions. 
> 11. Tolerance
> 
Inspirations for the modern GOP.
> 12. Hitler, Constantine the Great and Pol Pot
> 
I don't know, but it sounds yummy.
> 13. Lebanese food and pink grapefruit Perrier
> 
Was this what drove Hitler out of Russia?
> 14.  Battle of Stalingrad.
> 
> 15.  What goes around comes around if you're not fast enough.
> 
What's that got to do, got to do with it?
> 16.  Love
> 
> 17.  Paranoid optimism
> 
A...
> 18.  In the arms of my wife.
> 
Two great but seriously f*cked composers
> 19.  Mozart and Henry the Eighth
> 
Two great modern artists with the same first name.
> 20.  Mark Rothco and Marc Chagall
> 

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

2011-07-27 Thread curtisdeltablues

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> To Whom It May Concern:

I was concerned when I read it.

> 
> As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) who 
> was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> (David Wants To Fly).

I think he was selling the sandals not his opinion of the wearer, which were 
mixed.  And he obviously has maintained some of the beliefs about their 
magicness so that is not inconsistent with selling them to someone who shares 
that belief.  Personally if the price was low enough I would buy them as a 
piece of kitsch pop culture.  I would like to display them next to a pair of 
Gaga shoes.

>  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.

I was thinking that being inspired to write is the enjoyment of FFL...

> Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc.

I wonder which of these your post will represent.

 First it 
> was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> was the place to do so.

I can't think of a better place to offer the sandals than here, and it sparked 
all sorts of great discussions.  Of course he could post them on one of the 
movements many open discussion forums where people meet to share ideas under 
the umbrella of encouraging free speech.  Wait..there is a problem with this 
idea but it escapes me now.

 Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so.

I suspect because he wants to get a job and his resume is designed to discuss 
his relevant work experience rather then raise red flags about the employer's 
impressions of words like "Maharishi".  When I got my first job using a resume 
I didn't talk about teaching TM, I talked about marketing a stress reduction 
technique through seminars.

But of course your resume, if you have one, does the same thing so your 
criticism seems unfair.

 I have the
> same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is> some 
> personal gain to be had?

I hope you will post your resume where you emphasize how you felt about former 
employers over your work experience with them.  Either you have never written a 
resume or you are being unfair or both.  I have had butthead bosses and used my 
work experience for them on resumes.  Their buttheadedness was not the relevant 
point for prospective bosses to consider.  And your characterization of his 
complex feelings for Maharishi lacks the balance his own views have.

 I know we've all debated "the paradox" and dimensions both "unilateral" and 
"multilateral" but my point is
> pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> to articulate their agenda.

Sorry to disappoint but your post is gunna get some attention and reaction.  
And I am expressing a POV not an agenda since I don't know either you or Mark.

< I just question the chutzpah it
> takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> worthy to be put in your resume.

Seriously have you had a few jobs in your life?  Ever thought one sucked or 
that your boss was an asshole? Did you still do good work that might be 
relevant for a prospective employer to consider?  I get it that you have a 
problem with Mark's attitudes toward Maharishi but this case you are trying to 
build is seriously bogus.

> Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> that would cause you to do this.>

Make a resume that makes him look employable?  I think just not having a job 
would be enough motivation.

< Perhaps instead of us debating the pros and cons of sandal selling or job 
hunting and
> resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. I'll 
> write the first check.

You are kicking a guy when he is down.  The lack of compassion you express is 
revolting.  If you want to read a "spiritual" response read Denise's kind 
response full of good advice and encouragement.

I'm glad Mark found a group to interact with online that can give the guy a 
little wind beneath his wings.  Most of us have been in his shoes and most of 
us have come out of s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Or their likeness!  Hah!

Now the Gelflings, I must say http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Gelfling  they 
appear harmless. : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Ha Ha - could be, though I personally wouldn't want to hang out with them!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Ahh. Thank you for bringing up the question.  What is the definition of: 
> > "Know thy audience?"  
> > The audience, could it be this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vaKllPg7k
> > or this?
> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar4X-VK7p_I
> > 
> > A panel of FFL, who is?  : )
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Obbajeeba, I wasn't saying life is either spiritual or worldly, just that 
> > > to mix the two in terms of expression, while attempting to conduct 
> > > business doesn't work very well. I am not condoning an absence of 
> > > spirituality, whatever that may be, in one's life, at all. Just the 
> > > opposite. "Know thy audience", though.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "In's and out's of spiritual drama,"  happen all the time. For instance 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFwqUoO1JA  a sickly stomach I felt 
> > > > when I heard this song years ago, before the internet. There was a time 
> > > > I questioned as to why John Lennon had an early demise and a meditating 
> > > > person once told me it was because JL wrote that song. Years later, I 
> > > > am understanding John's questioning purpose to the song. Is it very 
> > > > normal for spiritual growth to go dual?  
> > > > Then of course, I hear and read, Yoko (who performs on the above 
> > > > recording) was present at the DLF CBW concert at the Radio City Music 
> > > > Hall in 2009, and I am sure a donor to the DLF, so all is well now to 
> > > > create money for the cause. This is a good example of "In's and 
> > > > Out's."...and back "In."  Typical.
> > > > Spiritual growth and investments in tax deductions for artists to keep 
> > > > their name going, go hand in hand in the non profit world of music and 
> > > > art. 
> > > >  Mark is a creative being telling of his adventures and I am enjoying 
> > > > reading them here on FFL.  : )
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > tedadams108, I think Mark will learn soon enough the difference 
> > > > > between getting caught up in the ins and outs of spiritual drama, and 
> > > > > what it actually takes to survive in the world. Better late than 
> > > > > never...
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought 
> > > > > > was 
> > > > > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man 
> > > > > > (Maharishi) who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > > > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > > > >  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > > > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > > > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > > > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > > > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > > > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > > > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > > > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > > > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > > > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > > > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > > > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > > > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to 
> > > > > > be 
> > > > > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > > > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > > > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > > > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > > > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there 
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the 
> > > > > > paradox" and dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my 
> > > > > > point is
> > > > > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > > > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > > > > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > > > > > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > > > > > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial 
> > > > > > situ

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

Hahahahaha! Those are great! Thanks for sharing!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I thought I'd ask the question, since the subject of
> humor or the lack thereof along spiritual paths is still
> on my mind. There was a time, back before fun was declared
> Off The Program, when funny TMO stories abounded. Here are 
> two of mine, both puja-related. Neither happened to me, but
> they are funny. At least to me.
> 
> In the first incident, a male TM teacher was initiating a
> female student, and at the part of the puja where one waves
> a little dish of flaming camphor around. A fiery piece of
> the camphor fell out of the dish and onto the larger tray
> in which he'd placed his entire supply of camphor. A wall
> of flame erupted from the tray, several feet high. Thinking 
> quickly, he looked around the room and found a large empty 
> flower pot, which he upended over the flaming tray and the 
> now-scorched white tablecloth, continued the puja, and 
> instructed the student. At the end of her first meditation, 
> he said "Slowly open the eyes," and then "It was good?," or
> whatever it was that we were supposed to say.
> 
> She replied, "Yes, the meditation itself was good, but I
> found myself thinking about when you made the table explode 
> into flame. Could we do that part again?"
> 
> The second incident also involves a male TM teacher and
> a female student, in this case a very attractive one. She
> arrived on time for her initiation, bearing the fresh 
> flowers and fruit she'd been told to bring. But while 
> preparing the puja table, the initiator noticed that 
> instead of the clean white handkerchief she'd been told
> to bring, she had brought a large white sheet. Folding
> it as small as he could he performed the puja and taught
> her TM and everything was great. 
> 
> At the end of the first night of checking, still curious,
> he asked the woman why she'd brought a sheet instead of
> a handkerchief. Blushing furiously, she told the initiator
> that the night before the instruction she had gone out to
> a bar and had met a guy and mentioned to him that she was
> going to learn TM the next day. 
> 
> He said, "Oh yeah, TM. I've learned that."
> 
> She asked, naturally curious, "So what are the fruit and
> the flowers and the handkerchief I've been asked to bring
> for?
> 
> The guy said, "Well, the fruit and flowers are kind of
> symbolic offerings used by the teacher in the ceremony 
> that precedes the initiation. The handkerchief is to 
> cover yourself with when you both get naked." 
> 
> The funniest thing, if you think about it, is that she
> believed him, and showed up anyway.
>

[FairfieldLife] What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

I thought I'd ask the question, since the subject of
humor or the lack thereof along spiritual paths is still
on my mind. There was a time, back before fun was declared
Off The Program, when funny TMO stories abounded. Here are 
two of mine, both puja-related. Neither happened to me, but
they are funny. At least to me.

In the first incident, a male TM teacher was initiating a
female student, and at the part of the puja where one waves
a little dish of flaming camphor around. A fiery piece of
the camphor fell out of the dish and onto the larger tray
in which he'd placed his entire supply of camphor. A wall
of flame erupted from the tray, several feet high. Thinking 
quickly, he looked around the room and found a large empty 
flower pot, which he upended over the flaming tray and the 
now-scorched white tablecloth, continued the puja, and 
instructed the student. At the end of her first meditation, 
he said "Slowly open the eyes," and then "It was good?," or
whatever it was that we were supposed to say.

She replied, "Yes, the meditation itself was good, but I
found myself thinking about when you made the table explode 
into flame. Could we do that part again?"

The second incident also involves a male TM teacher and
a female student, in this case a very attractive one. She
arrived on time for her initiation, bearing the fresh 
flowers and fruit she'd been told to bring. But while 
preparing the puja table, the initiator noticed that 
instead of the clean white handkerchief she'd been told
to bring, she had brought a large white sheet. Folding
it as small as he could he performed the puja and taught
her TM and everything was great. 

At the end of the first night of checking, still curious,
he asked the woman why she'd brought a sheet instead of
a handkerchief. Blushing furiously, she told the initiator
that the night before the instruction she had gone out to
a bar and had met a guy and mentioned to him that she was
going to learn TM the next day. 

He said, "Oh yeah, TM. I've learned that."

She asked, naturally curious, "So what are the fruit and
the flowers and the handkerchief I've been asked to bring
for?

The guy said, "Well, the fruit and flowers are kind of
symbolic offerings used by the teacher in the ceremony 
that precedes the initiation. The handkerchief is to 
cover yourself with when you both get naked." 

The funniest thing, if you think about it, is that she
believed him, and showed up anyway.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: alternative theory regarding MZ

Yes, Jim (how long does it take, here, to put names to email addresses?), I, 
too, find this true and beautiful, with one possible exception.  The heart, the 
true heart (IME, E & U), has no need whatsoever for story gratification.  The 
true heart, the lion heart, is a far better organ of perception/knower than the 
mind.  It's the heart, or hearts, of the inner frozen children that need 
constant soothing, the "heart", if you will, of the ego complex, of our 
woundedness and our pain, or I guess one could say, and perhaps more simply and 
truly, and, in so doing dissolve this "exception," the wounded parts of our 
heart.  It's the stories that are the defense mechanisms that help us in our 
long, misguided efforts to keep our pain away.  Of course, this may not apply 
to MZ, or any other particular individual, but, I believe, it applies to most 
of us.

What may more aptly apply to MZ (for all the profound things that have occurred 
between us, and, yes, they truly are profound, just how much so I have yet to 
see, I really do not yet know him well, as I have not had the time to follow 
his suggestion and read all that he has written here, nor do I think I will 
need to) is that he is using his intellect to sincerely advance his spiritual 
growth through the towering edifice created by the west's paramount religious 
institution (at least in terms of it's effect on the west) and, yes, some of 
the world's purest souls and highest thinkers (perhaps I will have to look into 
Aquinas), combined with the highly developed qualities of his intuition (for 
me, there's something I call inner knowing that is distinct from and goes 
beyond intuition).  How many have spent lifetimes lost in this structure (of 
course, he would "know" they are not lost but are getting found, and, perhaps, 
the only ones getting found)?  We agree, I think, that the mind, the intellect, 
no matter how developed and pure must always fall short of true knowing.  The 
truth of things is "unfathomable" and better known by the heart.  To know it 
one must lay the mind and everything else aside and become it.  To do this, one 
must put oneself through whatever it takes to strip everything else away and 
become the truly, truly, truly empty vessel.

And, to this: the universe within us will never accept any story as the the 
ultimate truth, I would add that the Satguru, God and the universe, both the 
universe within and without (which you all may, of course, have already agreed 
are one, though I still find it useful to distinguish them) and, sometimes, the 
good guru, will totally knock the shit out of us, if we force it/him/her to, 
the self-same principle that Ravi was (condescendingly, I must say, (it takes 
one to know one)) trying to explain to me way back when.

On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:31 AM, Ravi Yogi wrote:

> Jim, thanks that's beautiful.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > The key word is "story". As far as I can tell, all living things attempt to 
> > continuously solve problems, like a spider spinning a web to increase its 
> > capability to feed itself, or a cheetah sprinting at 70 mph for the same 
> > purpose. 
> > 
> > For us humans, problem solving takes on another dimension, in that we like 
> > to solve problems not just for food and shelter, but to explain ourselves 
> > to ourselves. Given that we have the ability to directly apprehend the 
> > Infinite, a limited story of ourselves or others told by the intellect to 
> > satisfy the heart will never be absolutely true, or absolutely satisfying. 
> > 
> > Towards that end though, much as RC/MZ has done, some of us strive mightily 
> > to build a towering intellectual edifice that we can easily reference and 
> > therefore solve the "problem" of our feelings about ourselves or something 
> > we perceive to be external. We attempt to solve all of our problems with 
> > one or many grand stories.
> > 
> > However, the universe within us will never accept any story as the the 
> > ultimate truth, and so constantly, innocently changes our feelings about 
> > ourselves and the world we create in order to give the house of cards we 
> > have built a gentle push from time to time and have us begin anew.
> > 
> > Once we begin to live the impermanence of any story (including too, the 
> > intellectual fixation that there are no stories, aka Turq) we are on our 
> > way to really understanding ourselves and living our universal nature.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote:
> > >
> > > "I have never heard that MMY declared Robin to be fully enlightened with
> > > no more growth possible. only that his experiences were sufficiently
> > > valid to have him describe them to other TM teachers."
> > > Thanks for the clarification Lawson, makes sense to me. However Robin's
> > > story seems to be much more dramatic and just doesn't seem to add up.
> 
> 
>

[FairfieldLife] #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-27 Thread raunchydog

We don't need a 3rd party. We need to primary Obama with a Democrat who will
stand up and say Obama doesn't represent the party of FDR, he represents the
blood suckers on Wall Street. Bernie Sanders agrees we should primary Obama
hoping it would push Obama further to the left. It's not going to happen. Obama
has a lock on plenty of money for a campaign that would (if 2008 is any lesson)
trash the reputation of the challenger, have the DNC cheat for him and play the
race card for good measure. Obama is on the right, has always been on the right
and will stay on the right regardless of a primary.

The debt ceiling debate is just kabuki to make the rubes believe that the only
choice, Flimflam Man has to save the county from defaulting on its debt is
sacrifice Social Security and Medicare when in truth that is exactly what Obama
was hired to do.

If Obama were a Democrat, he would have stopped all the Republican crazy talk
about the debt ceiling by simply saying he would invoke the 14th Amendment.
Bill Clinton said he would invoke the constitutional option to raise the debt
ceiling "without hesitation, and force the courts to stop me" in order to
prevent a default. Now, there's a president with some balls.

http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/07/19/bill-clinton-says-he-would-use-the-14th-amendment/

For the past few weeks, Obama has shown no interest in involving Democrats in
"negotiating" with Boehner, Cantor or McConnell because he couldn't have gotten
away with unilaterally offering up programs to help the poor and women. Obama
has continually lied about the strength and solvency of the social safety net
and now he has accomplished what George W. Bush and every Republican before him
could only dream of doing, destroy FDR's New Deal.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Ha Ha - could be, though I personally wouldn't want to hang out with them!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Ahh. Thank you for bringing up the question.  What is the definition of: 
> "Know thy audience?"  
> The audience, could it be this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vaKllPg7k
> or this?
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar4X-VK7p_I
> 
> A panel of FFL, who is?  : )
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > Obbajeeba, I wasn't saying life is either spiritual or worldly, just that 
> > to mix the two in terms of expression, while attempting to conduct business 
> > doesn't work very well. I am not condoning an absence of spirituality, 
> > whatever that may be, in one's life, at all. Just the opposite. "Know thy 
> > audience", though.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > "In's and out's of spiritual drama,"  happen all the time. For instance 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFwqUoO1JA  a sickly stomach I felt when 
> > > I heard this song years ago, before the internet. There was a time I 
> > > questioned as to why John Lennon had an early demise and a meditating 
> > > person once told me it was because JL wrote that song. Years later, I am 
> > > understanding John's questioning purpose to the song. Is it very normal 
> > > for spiritual growth to go dual?  
> > > Then of course, I hear and read, Yoko (who performs on the above 
> > > recording) was present at the DLF CBW concert at the Radio City Music 
> > > Hall in 2009, and I am sure a donor to the DLF, so all is well now to 
> > > create money for the cause. This is a good example of "In's and 
> > > Out's."...and back "In."  Typical.
> > > Spiritual growth and investments in tax deductions for artists to keep 
> > > their name going, go hand in hand in the non profit world of music and 
> > > art. 
> > >  Mark is a creative being telling of his adventures and I am enjoying 
> > > reading them here on FFL.  : )
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > tedadams108, I think Mark will learn soon enough the difference between 
> > > > getting caught up in the ins and outs of spiritual drama, and what it 
> > > > actually takes to survive in the world. Better late than never...
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > > > 
> > > > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > > > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man 
> > > > > (Maharishi) who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > > >  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > > > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > > > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" 
> > > > > and dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > > > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > > > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > > > > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > > > > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial 
> > > > > situation is that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us 
> > > > > debating the pros and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > > > > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some 
> > > > > money. I'll write the first check.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?),

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume



Ahh. Thank you for bringing up the question.  What is the definition of: "Know 
thy audience?"  
The audience, could it be this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57vaKllPg7k
or this?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar4X-VK7p_I

A panel of FFL, who is?  : )


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Obbajeeba, I wasn't saying life is either spiritual or worldly, just that to 
> mix the two in terms of expression, while attempting to conduct business 
> doesn't work very well. I am not condoning an absence of spirituality, 
> whatever that may be, in one's life, at all. Just the opposite. "Know thy 
> audience", though.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > "In's and out's of spiritual drama,"  happen all the time. For instance 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFwqUoO1JA  a sickly stomach I felt when I 
> > heard this song years ago, before the internet. There was a time I 
> > questioned as to why John Lennon had an early demise and a meditating 
> > person once told me it was because JL wrote that song. Years later, I am 
> > understanding John's questioning purpose to the song. Is it very normal for 
> > spiritual growth to go dual?  
> > Then of course, I hear and read, Yoko (who performs on the above recording) 
> > was present at the DLF CBW concert at the Radio City Music Hall in 2009, 
> > and I am sure a donor to the DLF, so all is well now to create money for 
> > the cause. This is a good example of "In's and Out's."...and back "In."  
> > Typical.
> > Spiritual growth and investments in tax deductions for artists to keep 
> > their name going, go hand in hand in the non profit world of music and art. 
> >  Mark is a creative being telling of his adventures and I am enjoying 
> > reading them here on FFL.  : )
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > tedadams108, I think Mark will learn soon enough the difference between 
> > > getting caught up in the ins and outs of spiritual drama, and what it 
> > > actually takes to survive in the world. Better late than never...
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > > 
> > > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man 
> > > > (Maharishi) who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > > >  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" 
> > > > and dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > > > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > > > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation 
> > > > is that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the 
> > > > pros and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > > > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some 
> > > > money. I'll write the first check.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought 
> > > > > I'd let you know.
> > > > > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting 
> > > > > firm in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other 
> > > > > things.
> > > > > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > > > > If any of y

[FairfieldLife] Re: More "for"



emptybill:
> That anther clue that the term "Soul-Monad" is 
> Theosophical speculation...
> 
Doesn't matter - it's what the Turq says he believes 
in: the Soul-Monad; the Being; the Inner-Self.

The Monad: Your Soul, Your Higher-Self, Your Spirit.
http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/rc4/hrc4-07.shtml

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Obbajeeba, I wasn't saying life is either spiritual or worldly, just that to 
mix the two in terms of expression, while attempting to conduct business 
doesn't work very well. I am not condoning an absence of spirituality, whatever 
that may be, in one's life, at all. Just the opposite. "Know thy audience", 
though.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> "In's and out's of spiritual drama,"  happen all the time. For instance 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFwqUoO1JA  a sickly stomach I felt when I 
> heard this song years ago, before the internet. There was a time I questioned 
> as to why John Lennon had an early demise and a meditating person once told 
> me it was because JL wrote that song. Years later, I am understanding John's 
> questioning purpose to the song. Is it very normal for spiritual growth to go 
> dual?  
> Then of course, I hear and read, Yoko (who performs on the above recording) 
> was present at the DLF CBW concert at the Radio City Music Hall in 2009, and 
> I am sure a donor to the DLF, so all is well now to create money for the 
> cause. This is a good example of "In's and Out's."...and back "In."  Typical.
> Spiritual growth and investments in tax deductions for artists to keep their 
> name going, go hand in hand in the non profit world of music and art. 
>  Mark is a creative being telling of his adventures and I am enjoying reading 
> them here on FFL.  : )
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > tedadams108, I think Mark will learn soon enough the difference between 
> > getting caught up in the ins and outs of spiritual drama, and what it 
> > actually takes to survive in the world. Better late than never...
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > > 
> > > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) 
> > > who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > > (David Wants To Fly).
> > >  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" and 
> > > dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> > > that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros 
> > > and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. 
> > > I'll write the first check.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd 
> > > > let you know.
> > > > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting 
> > > > firm in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> > > > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > > > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> > > > skills, please let me know.  The link is:
> > > > http://www.sky5.com/resume.html
> > > > Many thanks, m
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: More "for"



> > I, newbe on this forum, am not concerned with the past 
> > so much. I did look up Barry's first post on this forum, 
> > and I found it hilarious...
> >
authfriend: 
> That's one of my major criticism of him. I see him as an
> intellectual fraud (and as a phony in most other respects
> as well). I have little tolerance for inauthenticity.
> 
"Some of us, myself and millions of Buddhists included, 
don't believe in God, either..."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/51114

"Traditionally Buddhists throughout the Buddhist world 
consider that the universe contains more beings in it than 
are normally visible to humans. Buddhists have no objection 
to the existence of the Hindu Gods.

Nevertheless, Buddhists can't take refuge in the gods 
because the gods are not Buddha. That is, they are not 
enlightened." 

"Buddhist Thought"
by Paul Williams
Routledge, 2000

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

Ted, 

I wanted to write to congratulate you on your posts about
Mark so far, but also to chide you a bit for not being as
On The Program as you should be, TM-organization-wise.

In your first posts on the subject, you correctly pointed
out that Mark being out of work was entirely his fault for
not following every instruction given him by Maharishi, and
that it wasn't related in any way to the 14+ million other
Americans who are currently in the same position. 

Then, exhibiting the TLC (Tough Love Compassion) that Maha-
rishi taught, you did everything in your power to prevent
him from selling an asset that many (including many strong
TMers) would find valuable. Again, I congratulate you for 
that, because anyone who says anything less than compli-
mentary about Maharishi MUST be punished, and severely. 
I'm sure that many lurkers here (and many pro-TM posters)
joined you in hoping that Mark would starve to death in
some dark alley, the way that any such heretic deserved 
to do. 

Now, in this post, you try again to keep him from finding
a job, which is admirable, but in my opinion not *nearly*
enough. Mark must be made to PAY for speaking his mind,
and speaking openly to a filmmaker about Maharishi, and
telling the truth. This is as heretical an offense today
as it was in the Middle Ages, and IMO should be punished 
the same way.

As one of the Inquisitors of the Age Of Enlightenment, I
recommend that you stop all this polite "sweet truth"
pussyfooting around and just cut to the chase. Burn Mark
at the stake. If possible, in front of a large cheering
crowd of your fellow devout TMers. 

I did a little Googling, and have found that Builder's
Emporium is having a sale this week on tar, pitch, and
large bundles of firewood. I would take advantage of
this if I were you, because in today's economy you might
not be able to count on even Invincibility to keep you
employed, and thus able to buy the "tools of your trade."

When you perform this holy yagya of purification, don't
forget to bring the proper clean white handkerchief and
a piece of fresh fruit to throw into the flames along
with him. You might also want to consider adding the
following verse to the puja itself: "Offering Mark to 
the flames of liberation, I bow down." I'm pretty
sure that Maharishi wouldn't mind.

Turq

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
>
> To Whom It May Concern:
> 
> As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I 
> thought was the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the 
> sandals of a man (Maharishi) who was criticized by the 
> seller(Mark)in a film (David Wants To Fly).
>  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to 
> be Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there 
> is some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the 
> paradox" and dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but 
> my point is pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of 
> posts for people to articulate their agenda. I just question the 
> chutzpah it takes to speak so negatively about an organization 
> and yet find it worthy to be put in your resume. 
> Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial 
> situation is that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of 
> us debating the pros and cons of sandal selling or job hunting 
> and resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you 
> some money. I'll write the first check.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> >
> > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd let 
> > you know.
> > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting firm 
> > in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> > skills, please let me know.  T

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

"In's and out's of spiritual drama,"  happen all the time. For instance 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpFwqUoO1JA  a sickly stomach I felt when I 
heard this song years ago, before the internet. There was a time I questioned 
as to why John Lennon had an early demise and a meditating person once told me 
it was because JL wrote that song. Years later, I am understanding John's 
questioning purpose to the song. Is it very normal for spiritual growth to go 
dual?  
Then of course, I hear and read, Yoko (who performs on the above recording) was 
present at the DLF CBW concert at the Radio City Music Hall in 2009, and I am 
sure a donor to the DLF, so all is well now to create money for the cause. This 
is a good example of "In's and Out's."...and back "In."  Typical.
Spiritual growth and investments in tax deductions for artists to keep their 
name going, go hand in hand in the non profit world of music and art. 
 Mark is a creative being telling of his adventures and I am enjoying reading 
them here on FFL.  : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> tedadams108, I think Mark will learn soon enough the difference between 
> getting caught up in the ins and outs of spiritual drama, and what it 
> actually takes to survive in the world. Better late than never...
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > To Whom It May Concern:
> > 
> > As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> > the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) 
> > who was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> > (David Wants To Fly).
> >  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> > flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> > the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> > Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> > to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> > was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> > of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> > shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> > attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> > was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> > you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> > a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> > Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> > be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> > same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> > resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> > condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> > some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" and 
> > dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> > pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> > to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> > takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> > worthy to be put in your resume. 
> > Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> > that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros 
> > and cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> > resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. 
> > I'll write the first check.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> > >
> > > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd 
> > > let you know.
> > > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting 
> > > firm in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> > > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> > > skills, please let me know.  The link is:
> > > http://www.sky5.com/resume.html
> > > Many thanks, m
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

Eeyore speaks!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> What is the sound that causes the most disparate reactions in people?
> Some can hear this sound and react with fury in the moment of hearing
> it, and seemingly hold on to that fury for years, basing whole vendettas
> on it. Others can hear the same sound and join in, as if adding harmony
> to an already-sweet song. To the former, this sound closes the door on
> any possible future communication or resonance with the person or
> persons who laughed at them forever; it is perceived as an affront that
> can never be forgiven, an offense that should and must be punished. To
> the latter, the same sound actually *opens* doors to enhanced
> communication and increased resonance; it is perceived as an invitation
> to expand one's awareness, both of self and of the world.
> 
> The sound in question is laughter. In particular, the sound of other
> people laughing at you.
> 
> I've heard this sound a lot, because I studied with a spiritual teacher
> who used it as almost a mahavakya to facilitate breakthroughs to higher
> states of attention. Rama would poke merciless fun at us, his students,
> often in front of an audience of hundreds of other students.
> 
> Whatever else he might have been, Rama was a natural comedian, as fast
> on his feet as Robin Williams; he could find something funny in almost
> any situation. He specialized in "finding the funny" in situations that
> almost everyone around him treated with deadly seriousness. One of the
> things that almost every spiritual aspirant takes seriously is their
> self -- its stories, its importance, and above all its very seriousness.
> This 'tude is seemingly endemic to the spiritual seeker, and often to
> the spiritual path itself, as reflected by the very language that path
> uses. A "good" student is described as a "serious" student; a "proper"
> attitude to the study itself is described as "taking it seriously."
> 
> Color me not convinced of this. I'm with Christian philosopher G.K.
> Chesterton, who said, "Seriousness is not a virtue." Not only do I agree
> with him that there is no virtue in seriousness, I have come to believe
> that seriousness is the very antithesis of spiritual practice. I believe
> this because the few human beings I have encountered on this planet whom
> I would suspect of being enlightened or close to it were funny as hell;
> they could find a joke in *anything*. Including themselves.
> 
> Rama felt similarly. What was best about him is that he wisely included
> himself in the list of "viable targets for humor." He was remarkably
> self-effacing, and made himself the butt of his own jokes as often as he
> did us. In my 14-odd (very odd) years with him, I shared the limelight
> with him many times, and became the butt of many of his jokes.
> 
> Some of them roasted me mercilessly, and resulted in many of my fellow
> students joining in the laughter. This presented me with a koan: "What
> is the sound of one person not laughing, in a room full of laughing
> people?" Fortunately, in almost every case I decided that the answer to
> that koan was "An absolute boob who has started to take himself FAR too
> seriously," lightened the fuck up, and joined in the laughter.
> 
> I rank doing so right up there with my highest satori experiences in
> this life. Without exception, every time I managed to break through the
> self importance of seriousness, I found my self dwindling to the tiny,
> mischevious, and genuinely laughable imp it really was, and being
> replaced by Self. There is IMO very little in life as liberating as
> being able to laugh at oneself, and one's self.
> 
> IMO, the proper "soundtrack" of the movie or soap opera that is the
> pathway to enlightenment is laughter. If your path doesn't have a "laugh
> track," you might want to consider grabbing the remote and changing the
> channel.
> 
> The sound of laughter -- especially when people are laughing at you --
> is a double-edged sword. It presents you with a koan. You can choose to
> reply to that koan with outrage and anger, or you can choose to lighten
> the fuck up and join in the laughter. Or, even better, take the joke
> that you are the butt of and riff on it, not only joining in with the
> laughter but "piling on" and provoking an even bigger laugh.
> 
> I've been reminded of such an occasion recently on the Rama-oriented
> forum I've mentioned recently. One woman recapitulated one of her
> all-time highest experiences with the dude. It was at one of our formal
> dinners -- the guys all wearing tuxedos, the women in evening dresses; I
> think we were having dinner at the Pierre in NYC. At any rate, that
> night she was feeling "off," having sunk into a period of taking herself
> and the study far too seriously. Rama, himself dressed in a tux, walked
> up to the table at which she was sitting with about ten other students,
> and "made the rounds," making some comment about each of their state

[FairfieldLife] The Double-Edged Sword

What is the sound that causes the most disparate reactions in people?
Some can hear this sound and react with fury in the moment of hearing
it, and seemingly hold on to that fury for years, basing whole vendettas
on it. Others can hear the same sound and join in, as if adding harmony
to an already-sweet song. To the former, this sound closes the door on
any possible future communication or resonance with the person or
persons who laughed at them forever; it is perceived as an affront that
can never be forgiven, an offense that should and must be punished. To
the latter, the same sound actually *opens* doors to enhanced
communication and increased resonance; it is perceived as an invitation
to expand one's awareness, both of self and of the world.

The sound in question is laughter. In particular, the sound of other
people laughing at you.

I've heard this sound a lot, because I studied with a spiritual teacher
who used it as almost a mahavakya to facilitate breakthroughs to higher
states of attention. Rama would poke merciless fun at us, his students,
often in front of an audience of hundreds of other students.

Whatever else he might have been, Rama was a natural comedian, as fast
on his feet as Robin Williams; he could find something funny in almost
any situation. He specialized in "finding the funny" in situations that
almost everyone around him treated with deadly seriousness. One of the
things that almost every spiritual aspirant takes seriously is their
self -- its stories, its importance, and above all its very seriousness.
This 'tude is seemingly endemic to the spiritual seeker, and often to
the spiritual path itself, as reflected by the very language that path
uses. A "good" student is described as a "serious" student; a "proper"
attitude to the study itself is described as "taking it seriously."

Color me not convinced of this. I'm with Christian philosopher G.K.
Chesterton, who said, "Seriousness is not a virtue." Not only do I agree
with him that there is no virtue in seriousness, I have come to believe
that seriousness is the very antithesis of spiritual practice. I believe
this because the few human beings I have encountered on this planet whom
I would suspect of being enlightened or close to it were funny as hell;
they could find a joke in *anything*. Including themselves.

Rama felt similarly. What was best about him is that he wisely included
himself in the list of "viable targets for humor." He was remarkably
self-effacing, and made himself the butt of his own jokes as often as he
did us. In my 14-odd (very odd) years with him, I shared the limelight
with him many times, and became the butt of many of his jokes.

Some of them roasted me mercilessly, and resulted in many of my fellow
students joining in the laughter. This presented me with a koan: "What
is the sound of one person not laughing, in a room full of laughing
people?" Fortunately, in almost every case I decided that the answer to
that koan was "An absolute boob who has started to take himself FAR too
seriously," lightened the fuck up, and joined in the laughter.

I rank doing so right up there with my highest satori experiences in
this life. Without exception, every time I managed to break through the
self importance of seriousness, I found my self dwindling to the tiny,
mischevious, and genuinely laughable imp it really was, and being
replaced by Self. There is IMO very little in life as liberating as
being able to laugh at oneself, and one's self.

IMO, the proper "soundtrack" of the movie or soap opera that is the
pathway to enlightenment is laughter. If your path doesn't have a "laugh
track," you might want to consider grabbing the remote and changing the
channel.

The sound of laughter -- especially when people are laughing at you --
is a double-edged sword. It presents you with a koan. You can choose to
reply to that koan with outrage and anger, or you can choose to lighten
the fuck up and join in the laughter. Or, even better, take the joke
that you are the butt of and riff on it, not only joining in with the
laughter but "piling on" and provoking an even bigger laugh.

I've been reminded of such an occasion recently on the Rama-oriented
forum I've mentioned recently. One woman recapitulated one of her
all-time highest experiences with the dude. It was at one of our formal
dinners -- the guys all wearing tuxedos, the women in evening dresses; I
think we were having dinner at the Pierre in NYC. At any rate, that
night she was feeling "off," having sunk into a period of taking herself
and the study far too seriously. Rama, himself dressed in a tux, walked
up to the table at which she was sitting with about ten other students,
and "made the rounds," making some comment about each of their states of
attention that night, from his point of view. He got to her, stopped,
and said, "You are awfully serious lately. You should masturbate more."

She replied immediately and instinctively, "More?"

Everyone cracked up, including him.

[FairfieldLife] Well who'd have thunk it?

2011-07-27 Thread PaliGap

Ever wondered what could be a more important 
determinant of GDP growth than a country's political 
regime type?

Some Finnish whitecoats think they have the answer:

Male Organ and Economic Growth: Does Size Matter?
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"This paper explores the link between economic 
development and penile length between 1960 and 1985. 
It estimates an augmented Solow model utilizing the 
Mankiw-Romer-Weil 121 country dataset. The size of 
male organ is found to have an inverse U- shaped 
relationship with the level of GDP in 1985. It can 
alone explain over 15% of the variation in GDP. The 
GDP maximizing size is around 13.5 centimetres, and a 
collapse in economic development is identified as the 
size of male organ exceeds 16 centimetres. Economic 
growth between 1960 and 1985 is negatively associated 
with the size of male organ, and it alone explains 20% 
of the variation in GDP growth. With due reservations 
it is also found to be more important determinant of 
GDP growth than country's political regime type. 
Controlling for male organ slows convergence and 
mitigates the negative effect of population growth on 
economic development slightly. Although all evidence 
is suggestive at this stage, the `male organ 
hypothesis' put forward here is robust to exhaustive 
set of controls and rests on surprisingly strong 
correlations."

https://helda.helsinki.fi/handle/10138/27239?show=full

(A hoax? ed.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

tedadams108, I think Mark will learn soon enough the difference between getting 
caught up in the ins and outs of spiritual drama, and what it actually takes to 
survive in the world. Better late than never...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tedadams108  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> To Whom It May Concern:
> 
> As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
> the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) who 
> was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
> (David Wants To Fly).
>  Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
> flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
> the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
> Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
> to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
> was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
> of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
> shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
> attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
> was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
> you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
> a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
> Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
> be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
> same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
> resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
> condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
> some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" and 
> dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
> pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
> to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
> takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
> worthy to be put in your resume. 
> Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is 
> that would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros and 
> cons of sandal selling or job hunting and
> resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. I'll 
> write the first check.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
> >
> > Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd let 
> > you know.
> > I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting firm 
> > in charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> > I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> > If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> > skills, please let me know.  The link is:
> > http://www.sky5.com/resume.html
> > Many thanks, m
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's sandals and Marks resume

To Whom It May Concern:

As you may be aware, a few days ago I commented on what I thought was 
the hypocrisy of trying to capitalize on the sandals of a man (Maharishi) who 
was criticized by the seller(Mark)in a film
(David Wants To Fly).
 Opinions on both sides of the pro/con camps
flooded in. Just when I felt I could once again sit back and enjoy
the posts on FFL, something else has caused me to respond.
Maybe I don't understand the forum, but I thought it was a place
to share in philosophical ideas, spiritual debate, etc. First it 
was selling sandals to make some money, now it's a resume in hopes
of getting a job. I mean I have a pair of Charlie Donahue's earth
shoes I would sell (for the right price), and wouldn't mind
attracting more customers in my business, but didn't think this
was the place to do so. Anyway, regarding the resume Mark,
you state that you were the personal assistant to the Founder of
a worldwide educational organization called the World Plan Executive
Council in Seelisburg Switzerland. The Founder wouldn't happen to be 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would it, and the organization wouldn't
be the TM Movement would it? If so, why not just say so. I have the
same concern as I did about the sandals. Why put on the
resume that you worked for an organization which you have repeatedly
condemned and ridiculed? Like the sandals, it's justified if there is
some personal gain to be had? I know we've all debated "the paradox" and 
dimensions both "unilateral" and "multilateral" but my point is
pretty simple and not meant to generate dozens of posts for people
to articulate their agenda. I just question the chutzpah it
takes to speak so negatively about an organization and yet find it
worthy to be put in your resume. 
Maybe I'm not appreciating just how difficult your financial situation is that 
would cause you to do this. Perhaps instead of us debating the pros and cons of 
sandal selling or job hunting and
resume posting, we could just take a collection and send you some money. I'll 
write the first check.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau  wrote:
>
> Not too sure about protocol here yet (is there any?), but I thought I'd let 
> you know.
> I lost my job June 6 as Accounting Manager for a high tech consulting firm in 
> charge of AP, AR, payroll and responsible for many other things.
> I just put my resume up (not too professionally) on my web site.
> If any of you know of any company anywhere that might be able to use my 
> skills, please let me know.  The link is:
> http://www.sky5.com/resume.html
> Many thanks, m
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: alternative theory regarding MZ

Yes, a result of many tumbled houses of cards!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi"  wrote:
>
> Jim, thanks that's beautiful.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" 
> wrote:
> >
> > The key word is "story". As far as I can tell, all living things
> attempt to continuously solve problems, like a spider spinning a web to
> increase its capability to feed itself, or a cheetah sprinting at 70 mph
> for the same purpose.
> >
> > For us humans, problem solving takes on another dimension, in that we
> like to solve problems not just for food and shelter, but to explain
> ourselves to ourselves. Given that we have the ability to directly
> apprehend the Infinite, a limited story of ourselves or others told by
> the intellect to satisfy the heart will never be absolutely true, or
> absolutely satisfying.
> >
> > Towards that end though, much as RC/MZ has done, some of us strive
> mightily to build a towering intellectual edifice that we can easily
> reference and therefore solve the "problem" of our feelings about
> ourselves or something we perceive to be external. We attempt to solve
> all of our problems with one or many grand stories.
> >
> > However, the universe within us will never accept any story as the the
> ultimate truth, and so constantly, innocently changes our feelings about
> ourselves and the world we create in order to give the house of cards we
> have built a gentle push from time to time and have us begin anew.
> >
> > Once we begin to live the impermanence of any story (including too,
> the intellectual fixation that there are no stories, aka Turq) we are on
> our way to really understanding ourselves and living our universal
> nature.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote:
> > >
> > > "I have never heard that MMY declared Robin to be fully enlightened
> with
> > > no more growth possible. only that his experiences were sufficiently
> > > valid to have him describe them to other TM teachers."
> > > Thanks for the clarification Lawson, makes sense to me. However
> Robin's
> > > story seems to be much more dramatic and just doesn't seem to add
> up.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: ZomGas 3 - A Reverse Zombie - (was Zombie in My Gas Tank)

Bob, I'm not Sal, being neither as attractive nor as
funny as her fans have suggested. Heck, I'm not even
sure I'd ever have fans. But I'll play Karnak and 
give these answers a shot because it seems like a 
fun way to pass some time.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price  wrote:
>
> My answers for ZomGas 3 (in no particular order):
> 
> 1. Hanging with people that are right ALL the time.

Q: What is the real rationale behind the TMO's "dome 
pass" policy?

> 2. Smart, funny-leggy brunette, mid thirties with a 
> Mediterranean accent.

Q: What does Bevan Morris look like when he cruises
the drag queen bars on his nights off?

> 3. Wealth

Q: What did Maharishi really hope to "accomplish" by
"doing less and accomplishing more?"

> 4. Generosity

Q: What does the TMO call lowering the price for learning
TM, the 4 required advanced techniques, and the TM-Sidhi
technique from $15,000 to $9000?

> 5. Toughness

Q: What is the quality most required to make it through 
one of Bevan Morris' speeches without laughing?

> 6. Film director

Q: What does David Lynch, now that he has become the 
subject of someone else's movie, wish that he'd stayed
instead of becoming a sock puppet for the TMO?

> 7. Posting on FFL

Q: What activity can simultaneously enable some people
to take themselves less seriously and learn to laugh
at themselves, but in others cause them to take them-
selves even more seriously and live a life character-
ized by near-constant rage? 

> 8. Blue Roses

Q: Given the flower metaphor that poets throughout the 
centuries have used to describe the female genitalia,
what do you call the female counterpart of the sexual 
frustration that in men would be called "blue balls?"

> 9. John le Carre

Q: Given the author's ability to make fat, dumpy, 
nondescript, and basically uninteresting George Smiley 
a hero, who does Bevan Morris hope will write his 
biography?

> 10 Lao Tse

Q: Which author, taunted by detractors who said "No way" 
when he claimed that he could write a book about the 
spiritual path that wasn't a rehash of every other 
spiritual book ever written, replied "Way"

> 11. Tolerance

Q: How does the Course Office explain the practice of
allowing people who have had their dome passes taken
away to continue to live in Fairfield, or at all?

> 12. Hitler, Constantine the Great and Pol Pot

Q: Given the living world leaders Maharishi praised 
and named as honorary Governors of the Age of Enlight-
enment, which deceased world leaders would be at the 
top of his list if they'd still been alive?

> 13. Lebanese food and pink grapefruit Perrier

Q: What lunch combination would you least like to see
a second time, if hit by a sudden bout of seasickness?

> 14. Battle of Stalingrad.

Q: How do some TMers view the experience of having to
post on a free speech forum like Fairfield Life?

> 15. What goes around comes around if you're not fast enough.

Q: How does a dog explain why it keeps chasing its tail,
even though it never seems to catch it?

> 16. Love

Q: What do MUM Course Office officials call taking away 
someone's dome pass?

> 17. Paranoid optimism

Q: What does a long-tailed cat feel, eyeing a mouse on the 
other side of a room full of people in rocking chairs, just
before deciding to go for it?

> 18. In the arms of my wife.

Q: What is the place that most men simultaneously consider 
the best place in the world for them, but the worst place
in the world for other men?

> 19. Mozart and Henry the Eighth 

Q: Who, besides Lewis and Clark and Sacagawea, appeared
as characters in the episode of the Simpsons entitled 
"Margical History Tour?"

> 20. Mark Rothko and Marc Chagall

Q: Who are two modern artists of Russian heritage whose 
works you are actually relieved that you can't afford?

Re: [FairfieldLife] One in five American men don't work: Where's the outrage?

Ah...the new world order againI'm starting to see areas of overlapthis 
is good!  
I work every day at staying in surrenderenough not to move into full on 
panic.  At this point, while I am a lone supporter of our President's efforts 
to manage this disaster, ,whether they pull it together or it blows, I'm ready 
for worst-case scenario. I've got our camping/backpacking gear.  I am partial 
to strong coffee in the AM so should stock up on that and water and food and 
fuel.  EXCEPTI might need a gun (joke) - don't have one of those yet :)  

--- On Tue, 7/26/11, Bhairitu  wrote:

From: Bhairitu 
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] One in five American men don't work: Where's the 
outrage?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 9:39 AM

  We might just boil it down to "there's no ditches that need to be dug."  

Maybe that will make the point clear to the OO's (outwardly oblivious).  

The revolution started a while back.  So far it is mostly online.  Plant 

memes and see where they go.  Others will pick them up and carry them 

elsewhere.  Post on other blogs and newstory comments.  After all, it's 

a tug-a-war and you have to pull hard to take it any sensible direction.

Some trends analysts believe that the economy will crash, probably 

wiping out many of the big corporations.  Local businesses will revive 

themselves, new ones spring up and we'll discover community again.  

We'll help each other out.  Empty Walmarts will become bazaars for 

people to sell things they make or grow.  We have plenty of great 

technology that won't be going away we can make use of even it if sits 

on a plateau and doesn't evolve for decades.  After all, people just 

come up with this stuff for their own rice bowl. ;-)

On 07/25/2011 06:51 PM, Denise Evans wrote:

> First person accounts are the most interesting thing on this forum - except 
> for the great pics and video clips and interesting perspectives (that don't 
> get mired in articulate nonsense).  I liked the post that said that the 
> versions that are posted here are only first drafts.  Too true and too funny.

> I'm with you on the paradigm change.  I'm 48 and honestly, worked a lot of 
> labor jobs in my 20's so didn't get going on a family and career until my 
> 30's - so I always figured I had a decade to make up - which I did.  How does 
> one go about starting a revolution?  What are the values as a society that we 
> are going to forward as the agenda...it all seems to break down in the "how." 
>  We should not be fear-based in our decision-making process as a country.  
> "It's a short trip from the cradle to the crypt"...we won't be conscious of 
> our past lives in our future lives - enlightenment or no enlightenment - 
> whaddya we have to lose by taking a stand in this one?  Oh yes, 
> blacklisting

> I just am learning how to cook...my kids want a home-cooked meal...eating out 
> is hum drum for them.  I am loving the basics.  I cleaned my house...so 
> satisfyingno more housecleaner.  My life as a corporate slave was a 
> personal disaster and fraught with family sacrifice and I don't want to go 
> back.   I may have to rent the house out is the irony in all this..never did 
> get to enjoy it.

> Yes, it is the lower-income, fixed-income seniors and our/my generation, in 
> particular, that are going to face a tough future.  We have no pensions - I 
> have little savings.  I tell my daughter who is heading off to college - 
> "Honey, it is up to you to save the world"..."no pressure"..."expect that I 
> will live with you."  Tee Hee.

> Read the big article today about how much money the CEO's are making in 2011? 
>  And we want to give that category a tax break?  Seriously?  

>

> I just attended my first class in XHTML - $329 for the very basics - way too 
> much money for such basic info.  Easy, breezy.  I have decided that I should 
> have gone into the programming industry (yes, I know XHTML is not real 
> programming).  

> You got into an industry that is currently relevant and therefore, pays well. 
> Learned a little on the history of the Internet and Web - fascinating.  I 
> always wondered who was running the show.   

>

> --- On Mon, 7/25/11, Bhairitu  wrote:

>

> From: Bhairitu

> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] One in five American men don't work: Where's the 
> outrage?

> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

> Date: Monday, July 25, 2011, 12:30 PM

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Resume/A Job