Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-) That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-) IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much less replying to or debating with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every week they seem to have to react to almost everything I post, restarting their stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the more I ignore them. So every so often I throw them a bone and rap about how I really see them, so they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic stalkbots they are. :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by the previous action. Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : No. It's that you can't prove either free will or pre-destiny. So why bother? Enjoy your pattern. :-D On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around them any other way? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
The two perspectives converge if you go far enough back in time and leave out quantum mechanics. In fact, the billiard ball playing deity is a very common perspective for the Natural Philosophers where God created the universe, set up initial conditions, and stepped aside. Free Will is just a philosophical out that people created to allow for Faith and Sin. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Yes, I do know, but actually, I was responding to Bhairitu, not Barry. Really just a point of possible general interest for anyone following these discussions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by the previous action. Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : No. It's that you can't prove either free will or pre-destiny. So why bother? Enjoy your pattern. :-D On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around them any other way? :-)
[FairfieldLife] No earth??
Moving through space: By Samyama on the relationship between the body and space (akasha) and by concentrating on the lightness of cotton, passage through space can be attained. While sutra 3.40 described levitation, this sutra describes moving through space. Note the quality of opposites: A universal principle is relatively easy to see in this sutra. The samyama is on the relationship between the body and space. This results in the body having a lightness that is likened to cotton. The samyama allows a releasing or a cessation of the process of heaviness or earth element. Then, the natural lightness is experienced. It is not that a new quality of lightness is being attained or added on. Rather, it is a ceasing to be connected with the quality of earth or heaviness of body. Over and over, this process or practice (1.2 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.2) of cessation of identity (1.4 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.4) is repeated until the Self comes shining through (1.3 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.3). Attainments and obstacles: As with the other subtle experiences this is seen to be both an attainment and an obstacle, and is set aside (Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle experiences http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm) with non-attachment (1.15 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-11216.htm#1.15). http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle ex... http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Yoga Sutras: Extensive practical explanations of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. The Yoga Sutras succinctly outlines Yoga Meditation for Self-Realiz... View on www.swamij.com http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
It's all just multi-personal, pantheistic solipsism, you know. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-) That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-) IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much less replying to or debating with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every week they seem to have to react to almost everything I post, restarting their stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the more I ignore them. So every so often I throw them a bone and rap about how I really see them, so they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic stalkbots they are. :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by the previous action. Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : No. It's that you can't prove either free will or pre-destiny. So why bother? Enjoy your pattern. :-D On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around them any other way? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: No earth??
So much for all the discussion of hopping like frogs found in many different texts with respect to mastery of the air. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote : Moving through space: By Samyama on the relationship between the body and space (akasha) and by concentrating on the lightness of cotton, passage through space can be attained. While sutra 3.40 described levitation, this sutra describes moving through space. Note the quality of opposites: A universal principle is relatively easy to see in this sutra. The samyama is on the relationship between the body and space. This results in the body having a lightness that is likened to cotton. The samyama allows a releasing or a cessation of the process of heaviness or earth element. Then, the natural lightness is experienced. It is not that a new quality of lightness is being attained or added on. Rather, it is a ceasing to be connected with the quality of earth or heaviness of body. Over and over, this process or practice (1.2 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.2) of cessation of identity (1.4 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.4) is repeated until the Self comes shining through (1.3 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.3). Attainments and obstacles: As with the other subtle experiences this is seen to be both an attainment and an obstacle, and is set aside (Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle experiences http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm) with non-attachment (1.15 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-11216.htm#1.15). http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle ex... http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Yoga Sutras: Extensive practical explanations of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. The Yoga Sutras succinctly outlines Yoga Meditation for Self-Realiz... View on www.swamij.com http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
O my dear big L traveler in Umberto Eco`s hyperreality sipping from the horror vacui bowl at the Faith in Fake Lounge, .. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :It's all just multi-personal, pantheistic solipsism, you know. L our dearest Lazarus, stranded all alone in the gas station of love having to use the self-service pumps... Welcome to the Second Centennial Convention of the Interuniversal Society for Eschatological Pantheistic Multiple-Ego Solipsism at Fairy Field Light Snipe -snipee snip snip snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
Correction below ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : O my dear big L traveler in Umberto Eco`s hyperreality -land- of- the -harmless-free -celebrating -the wild-sipping from the horror vacui bowl at the Faith in Fake Lounge, ..with straw hat and lollipops ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote cogito interruptus-esque :It's all just multi-personal, pantheistic solipsism, you know. L our dearest Lazarus, stranded all alone in the gas station of love having to use the self-service pumps... Welcome to the Second Centennial Convention of the Interuniversal Society for Eschatological Pantheistic Multiple-Ego Solipsism at Fairy Field Light Snipe -snipee snip snip snip
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
If I may summarize: You feel that your ability to enrage and insult others, and for them to respond in kind, is a hallmark of your ultimate freedom as a human being, your ability to exert your Free Will, to demonstrate your 'control'. Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul, and if that is what gets you off, you have truly reached the bottom of your barrel. You attempt to make a distinction, between those who fall for your crap, and those who don't, while being well aware, Barry, that you cherry-pick who to insult, and how much, on here. You have never had anything but roses waiting for Curtis, and a few others. I doubt very much if you referred to your good and close friend, Curtis, with some of the language you fling at others, he would not tolerate you for long. We watch you spin your hamster wheel, ecstatic over your 'free will', and your meanness - your ability to both take out your spiritual frustrations on others, and your inability to recognize such a deep flaw within yourself. As Bhairatu said, enjoy your pattern - the rest of us remain incredulous at your emotional blindness, and on-line stupidity. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-) That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-) IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much less replying to or debating with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every week they seem to have to react to almost everything I post, restarting their stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the more I ignore them. So every so often I throw them a bone and rap about how I really see them, so they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic stalkbots they are. :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FWIW, determinism and predestination
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
interesting point and observation see more below ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Even someone like me with genuine, diagnosed-by-a-doctor OCD, can transcend just fine. Obsessing about TM is Just Another Obsession and doesn't interfere with the practice any more than any other obsession -it's all just thinking, afterall, and if you can obsess, er, think, you can meditate. L It reflect the recent study by Radomsky which shows that it's not the unwanted, intrusive thoughts that are the problem -- it's what you make of those thoughts People with OCD and related problems are very much like everyone else.Almost everyone has these kinds of thoughts. They're normal, and they're a part of being human, Happen to review not long ago these article -.Still have the pdf files -Being a little busy but just in case you are interested can-may send it next time attached .http://www.researchgate.net/publication/260269497_Introduction_A_global_perspective_on_unwanted_intrusive_thoughts http://www.researchgate.net/publication/260269497_Introduction_A_global_perspective_on_unwanted_intrusive_thoughts The surveys were taken in different countries with different cultures and languages, (13 countries across six continents, including Canada, Argentina, Australia, France, Greece, Hong Kong, Iran, Israel, Italy, Sierra Leone, Spain, Turkey and the United States)potentially making it hard to directly compare the responses. ( Some of the more interesting differences that emerged were associated with the fact that some languages/cultures do not have a simple term or expression for ‘intrusive’: the IITIS questionnaire has to be translated in nine languages English, Cantonese, French,Greek, Hebrew, Italian, Persian, Spanish, and Turkish.) Also, the survey questions may not have turned up an accurate number of intrusive thoughts among the participants and the study only looks at college students, not older or younger people, it still provides the first empirical evidence that obsessions might have their origins in the normal thought processes that characterize the stream of consciousness. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211364914000177 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211364914000177 here some more at the journal site http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-obsessive-compulsive-and-related-disorders/recent-articles/ http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-obsessive-compulsive-and-related-disorders/recent-articles/ If you are interested can send you a additional special issue on a global perspective on unwanted intrusive thoughts with a commentary by Professor Jack Rachman who situate the current findings within the historical context of intrusions and cognitive-behavioral approaches to OCD. Professor Rachman can be considered the “founder of intrusive thoughts”, at least in reference to OCD. A sample quote: Not all uninvited thoughts are unacceptable. Some are pleasant,some amusing, and some can be creative. For example Mozart and Beethoven described how some of their musical thoughts “intruded”. Mozart's often arrived fully formed, and Beethoven had many that “pounded into his head.” Reviewing was easy since the study acknowledges several caveats that could affect the reliability of its findings and the remaining caveats was covered by Professor Jack Rachman`s commentary. BTW my dear Lazarus: Assuming that you have transcended quite often during a assuming long period of time.--your NS could-may be accustomed to the silent aspect of your mind and you feel-consider thought as noise and somehow painful and therefore intrusive and compulsive? Happen quite often...just saying -sniper snip
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
On 5/13/2014 7:31 AM, merudanda wrote: it's all just thinking, afterall, and if you can obsess, er, think, you can meditate. That's what I'm saying! If TM is just thinking tings over, how could it harm your brain? Doesn't everyone think at least once a twice a day? Is anyone out there still saying the practice of basic TM can what, mess up your mind? It has not been established that the mind can cause physical change at will - except for a few cases (maybe a hundred) of mind-over-matter, that have ever been recorded. There is one case of levitation mentioned on alt.skeptic, but it was discredited in about two minutes. There have been at least one eye-witness account of levitation posted to FFL, but nobody seems to want talk about. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
On 5/13/2014 7:20 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul This, if accurate, is quite a fall from grace. At one time Barry and Curtis had aspirations to be spiritual teachers. They must have believed all that TM stuff, the meditation and the flying, but they did a 180 at some point in their lives, AFTER spending what, twenty years in the service of the movement. What happened? According to Curtis, he changes his mind almost every day, so he may have changed it back 180 again today. But, Barry is another case - he did his 180 as well, but then he came up against THE CORRECTOR on the internet - that's when he went bat-shit crazy posting to FFL. It's not complicated. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, I guess. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No earth??
On 5/13/2014 2:22 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: So much for all the discussion of hopping like frogs found in many different texts with respect to mastery of the air. Levitating from a stage, with no visible means of physical support, in front of a large group of people, is probably the larger challenge. The first thing to do is light up some punk. Next, what you have to do is serve some tasty refreshments at the door. Then, start the low-bass drumming real slow. When all the people are all seated and stoned, fill the whole room with smoke. It's complicated --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : If I may summarize: You feel that your ability to enrage and insult others, and for them to respond in kind, is a hallmark of your ultimate freedom as a human being, your ability to exert your Free Will, to demonstrate your 'control'. Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul, and if that is what gets you off, you have truly reached the bottom of your barrel. You attempt to make a distinction, between those who fall for your crap, and those who don't, while being well aware, Barry, that you cherry-pick who to insult, and how much, on here. You have never had anything but roses waiting for Curtis, and a few others. I doubt very much if you referred to your good and close friend, Curtis, with some of the language you fling at others, he would not tolerate you for long. We watch you spin your hamster wheel, ecstatic over your 'free will', and your meanness - your ability to both take out your spiritual frustrations on others, and your inability to recognize such a deep flaw within yourself. As Bhairatu said, enjoy your pattern - the rest of us remain incredulous at your emotional blindness, and on-line stupidity. If this is an example of enlightened insight, I'll salute it. Biggest of Macs, Fleetest of thought it is good to have you back with your no-shit wisdom and down-to-earth common sense. Plus, you really have Bawee's number (even if it is a big 0). More comments below just because, like Judy said, fish in a barrel: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-) The only cue you provide is for others to whip out the air freshener after you've left the room. That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. Apparently Judy was responding to the other Barry, not Baw so you can scratch that theory off the list. Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-) Bawee, there is no we here. You and you alone here exist in a universe of your own making complete with fun house mirrors that make the ugly guy look more beautiful than he is (in his own eyes). IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. Trip away, stumble around all you want. This is nothing new. In fact, not one hackneyed sentence you have written above reveals anything fresh or interesting about you or anything else. What you consistently fail to realize is that you challenge no one with your articles or your thoughts. What you do, however, is remind me of someone I will try my damnedest to never emulate. And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. I have no buttons Bawee. They don't exist. What exists is an innate dislike of ignorance and gratuitous mean-spirited people. You are both of those things. And until you finally fail to consistently exhibit these traits and as long as I happen to read something you regurgitate here that highlights those traits I will
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : If I may summarize: You feel that your ability to enrage and insult others, and for them to respond in kind, is a hallmark of your ultimate freedom as a human being, your ability to exert your Free Will, to demonstrate your 'control'. Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul, and if that is what gets you off, you have truly reached the bottom of your barrel. You attempt to make a distinction, between those who fall for your crap, and those who don't, while being well aware, Barry, that you cherry-pick who to insult, and how much, on here. You have never had anything but roses waiting for Curtis, and a few others. I doubt very much if you referred to your good and close friend, Curtis, with some of the language you fling at others, he would not tolerate you for long. We watch you spin your hamster wheel, ecstatic over your 'free will', and your meanness - your ability to both take out your spiritual frustrations on others, and your inability to recognize such a deep flaw within yourself. As Bhairatu said, enjoy your pattern - the rest of us remain incredulous at your emotional blindness, and on-line stupidity. If this is an example of enlightened insight, I'll salute it. Biggest of Macs, Fleetest of thought it is good to have you back with your no-shit wisdom and down-to-earth common sense. Plus, you really have Bawee's number (even if it is a big 0). More comments below just because, like Judy said, fish in a barrel: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-) The only cue you provide is for others to whip out the air freshener after you've left the room. That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. Apparently Judy was responding to the other Barry, not Baw so you can scratch that theory off the list. Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-) Bawee, there is no we here. You and you alone here exist in a universe of your own making complete with fun house mirrors that make the ugly guy look more beautiful than he is (in his own eyes). IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. Trip away, stumble around all you want. This is nothing new. In fact, not one hackneyed sentence you have written above reveals anything fresh or interesting about you or anything else. What you consistently fail to realize is that you challenge no one with your articles or your thoughts. What you do, however, is remind me of someone I will try my damnedest to never emulate. And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. I have no buttons Bawee. They don't exist. What exists is an innate dislike of ignorance and gratuitous mean-spirited people. You are both of those things. And until you finally fail to consistently exhibit these traits and as long as I happen to read something you regurgitate here that highlights those traits I will
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
On 5/12/2014 3:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around them any other way? :-) Asking the important questions. Apparently there are no informants on this list that believe in determinism as you have defined it. You are either free or you are bound. If you are bound, there's no need for yoga; if bound, by what means can we free ourselves? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
John, me and The Byrds agree with you (-: The Byrds - Turn! Turn! Turn! The Byrds - Turn! Turn! Turn! View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo On Monday, May 12, 2014 2:52 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven. Ecclesiastes 3:1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, the older I get, the more I realize that it's such a huge universe, big enough for all possibilities, for throwing out all the old rules (-: On Monday, May 12, 2014 2:32 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Lawson, I find your comments to be generally similar to what I'm trying to say. My comments are in red letters below: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : You're assuming that transcending means letting go of a specific kind of thought, rather than thoughts i general. Transcending refers to letting go of any thoughts. But ultimately the thought of God's existence, for atheists, non-theists and agnostics, will come into mind while in meditation or outside of meditation. If they cannot transcend the thought that there is no God, then they cannot let go of their individual self to merge with the cosmic Self. Thoughts are transcended during TM not because we hold onto specific thoughts during TM, but because we have been taught that it isn't necessary to attempt to control the mind during TM practice so we stop trying to control what happens next. Correct. I agree with this. Given the correct circumstances, aka starting TM, the mind will automatically start to settle down. I agree. That is all transcending means. Now, it is possible that the nervous system will settle down to the point where there are abrupt and obvious changes in breathing and heart rate and alpha-1 EEG coherence which researchers believe are due to an abrupt change in activity in certain parts of the thalamus, but that has nothing to do with belief, but only with specific conditions in the thalamus triggered, at times, by TM-practice. I agree. I've made a longer comment to Xeno about the difference between the individual self and the cosmic or universal Self. I saw your comments to that reply. I'll address those comments next. And the thalamus doesn't think or have beliefs, according to any theory I have heard. It is an important data switching center and helps regulate states of consciousness, breathing, etc., but doesn't do much data-processing in any way that would be related to belief. Belief and not-belief are influences on TM only so much as they interfere with allowing the practice to go on its own. I agree. But the individual self, sooner or later, should merge with the cosmic Self. When this is done, then cosmic consciousness can be attained. According to the TM practice, this could happen automatically. But it appears to me that the atheists, who are TMers, are consciously resisting this natural process to progress. So, it may take them longer to attain cosmic consciousness, or maybe they don't really care to achieve this state of consciousness. Far more detrimental to TM is the internet habit of seeking out the online version of the Teacher Training notes available online and mentally correlating that with what you are taught, as you are taught. This likely sets up extraneous connections in parts of the brain that wouldn't exist in people who learned TM without having first read the TT notes, and likely disrupts the activity that effortlessly thinking the mantra brings to bear in a localized way simply because there's so little prior intellectual connections established to bring more distant centers of the brain into play when meditation activity happens. I never stated anything related to Teacher Training notes. So, I can't address this point. Innocence of practice may well have a genuine physical significance. On the other hand, one could also argue that obsessively worrying about when one will encounter God during TM is far more detrimental to the practice of TM than not worrying about God in the first place. I agree. I would say that a non-believer, all other things being equal, is more likely to transcend than a Believer. It all depends on the individual's personality and physiology. But, in the final analysis, the individual self would have to be transcended to merge with the cosmic Self. If the atheist, who is a meditator, consciously resists this natural process by thoughts and actions, then he or she cannot cannot attain cosmic consciosness IMO. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Lawson, What is wrong with the statement that I made? Please, explain. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : I think you're in the wrong meditation discussion forum or that you need to go get checked. L
[FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
Just a note for those who may be following Game Of Thrones on HBO, or wherever you get it. Mild spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet, but I just had to rap about how magnificent Peter Dinklage was in the latest episode, The Laws of Gods and Men. As some critics have already noted, this episode is pretty much a shoe-in to be the one that Mr. Dinklage will submit as his Emmy nomination reel when time comes to do so. I hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe award he won in 2012. In the time since, he has risen from Supporting Role to top billed on the series, and with good reason. While Cersei Lannister may be the most hated character (although I personally lean more towards Ramsay Snow in that regard), Tyrion is by far the most loved. He has the most star power, and reputedly has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as well, in a series known for its incredibly handsome hunks. And he's a dwarf. That's a big thing to transcend, both in the plot of this epic work, and in real life. In this episode, standing in the dock on trial for his life, we watch Tyrion deal with a series of disappointments and betrayals that would sink a man twice his size and reduce him to helpless depression and surrender. Instead, he rises to the occasion, and to the full measure of his 4'5 (1.35 m) stature and delivers one of the great courtroom speeches ever delivered onscreen. In it, as Tyrion rails about what it's felt like to be on trial for being a dwarf his whole life, and the occasional anger he feels about this, we can *feel* Peter Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage transcended that trial and that anger, and now is near the top of the acting hierarchy. Good for him. And hopefully good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I haven't read the books, so what happens to him is still a mystery to me. I look forward to it being resolved, but hopefully not before a few more speeches like this one.
[FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India
Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and runs on air. Really. Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the Airpod... View on www.core77.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India
Yes! it's so *European*! We all must have oneor even two! On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:37 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and runs on air. Really. Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the Airpod... View on www.core77.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
I have read all the books and surprisingly, Tyrion is one of the FEW characters that has longevity in the series - he cheats death any number of times. On Tue, 5/13/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014, 2:30 PM Just a note for those who may be following Game Of Thrones on HBO, or wherever you get it. Mild spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet, but I just had to rap about how magnificent Peter Dinklage was in the latest episode, The Laws of Gods and Men. As some critics have already noted, this episode is pretty much a shoe-in to be the one that Mr. Dinklage will submit as his Emmy nomination reel when time comes to do so. I hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe award he won in 2012. In the time since, he has risen from Supporting Role to top billed on the series, and with good reason. While Cersei Lannister may be the most hated character (although I personally lean more towards Ramsay Snow in that regard), Tyrion is by far the most loved. He has the most star power, and reputedly has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as well, in a series known for its incredibly handsome hunks. And he's a dwarf. That's a big thing to transcend, both in the plot of this epic work, and in real life. In this episode, standing in the dock on trial for his life, we watch Tyrion deal with a series of disappointments and betrayals that would sink a man twice his size and reduce him to helpless depression and surrender. Instead, he rises to the occasion, and to the full measure of his 4'5 (1.35 m) stature and delivers one of the great courtroom speeches ever delivered onscreen. In it, as Tyrion rails about what it's felt like to be on trial for being a dwarf his whole life, and the occasional anger he feels about this, we can *feel* Peter Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage transcended that trial and that anger, and now is near the top of the acting hierarchy. Good for him. And hopefully good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I haven't read the books, so what happens to him is still a mystery to me. I look forward to it being resolved, but hopefully not before a few more speeches like this one. #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185 -- #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp #yiv7953382185hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp #yiv7953382185ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp .yiv7953382185ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp .yiv7953382185ad p { margin:0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp .yiv7953382185ad a { color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-sponsor #yiv7953382185ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-sponsor #yiv7953382185ygrp-lc #yiv7953382185hd { margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-sponsor #yiv7953382185ygrp-lc .yiv7953382185ad { margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185actions { font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity { background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span { font-weight:700;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span:first-child { text-transform:uppercase;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span a { color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span span { color:#ff7900;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span .yiv7953382185underline { text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach { clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach div a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach img { border:none;padding-right:5px;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach label { display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach label a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 blockquote { margin:0 0 0 4px;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185bold { font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185bold a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 dd.yiv7953382185last p a { font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} #yiv7953382185
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
Uh-oh, Barry's having another ego-crisis. 600-plus words' worth. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-) That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-) IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much less replying to or debating with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every week they seem to have to react to almost everything I post, restarting their stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the more I ignore them. So every so often I throw them a bone and rap about how I really see them, so they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic stalkbots they are. :-) :-) :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by the previous action. Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : No. It's that you can't prove either free will or pre-destiny. So why bother? Enjoy your pattern. :-D On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around them any other way? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel I have read all the books and surprisingly, Tyrion is one of the FEW characters that has longevity in the series - he cheats death any number of times. Nice to know, I guess, but please don't tell me any more. I intentionally didn't read the books so I could enjoy the series. On Tue, 5/13/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014, 2:30 PM Just a note for those who may be following Game Of Thrones on HBO, or wherever you get it. Mild spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet, but I just had to rap about how magnificent Peter Dinklage was in the latest episode, The Laws of Gods and Men. As some critics have already noted, this episode is pretty much a shoe-in to be the one that Mr. Dinklage will submit as his Emmy nomination reel when time comes to do so. I hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe award he won in 2012. In the time since, he has risen from Supporting Role to top billed on the series, and with good reason. While Cersei Lannister may be the most hated character (although I personally lean more towards Ramsay Snow in that regard), Tyrion is by far the most loved. He has the most star power, and reputedly has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as well, in a series known for its incredibly handsome hunks. And he's a dwarf. That's a big thing to transcend, both in the plot of this epic work, and in real life. In this episode, standing in the dock on trial for his life, we watch Tyrion deal with a series of disappointments and betrayals that would sink a man twice his size and reduce him to helpless depression and surrender. Instead, he rises to the occasion, and to the full measure of his 4'5 (1.35 m) stature and delivers one of the great courtroom speeches ever delivered onscreen. In it, as Tyrion rails about what it's felt like to be on trial for being a dwarf his whole life, and the occasional anger he feels about this, we can *feel* Peter Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage transcended that trial and that anger, and now is near the top of the acting hierarchy. Good for him. And hopefully good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I haven't read the books, so what happens to him is still a mystery to me. I look forward to it being resolved, but hopefully not before a few more speeches like this one. #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185 -- #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp #yiv7953382185hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp #yiv7953382185ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp .yiv7953382185ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp .yiv7953382185ad p { margin:0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp .yiv7953382185ad a { color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-sponsor #yiv7953382185ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-sponsor #yiv7953382185ygrp-lc #yiv7953382185hd { margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-sponsor #yiv7953382185ygrp-lc .yiv7953382185ad { margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185actions { font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity { background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span { font-weight:700;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span:first-child { text-transform:uppercase;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span a { color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span span { color:#ff7900;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185activity span .yiv7953382185underline { text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach { clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach div a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach img { border:none;padding-right:5px;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach label { display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185attach label a { text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 blockquote { margin:0 0 0 4px;} #yiv7953382185 .yiv7953382185bold { font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} #yiv7953382185
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
Couple comments below... That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. Apparently Judy was responding to the other Barry, not Baw so you can scratch that theory off the list. I think he's referring here to an earlier post of mine responding to his one-liner, in which all I did was repeat exactly what he said but changed determinist to free will. Amazing that he didn't anticipate how easily that lame remark could be turned against him. (Not to mention that my version is more appropriate, given that determinists do imagine the world they see around them in a different way from the free will they actually experience, but free will advocates can't imagine anything but what they experience.) (more snip) I think what's really got him going (aside from the humiliation of his extraordinarily stupid comments about Nabby's and my Bible discussion) is that I didn't comment at all on the two articles he posted, except for asking about lucid dreaming being mystical or spiritual, which I'd never heard before. He was expecting a big reaction from me but didn't get one, and that always makes him furious. You no more ignore Judy and I than we ignore you. I don't take you seriously and I certainly don't respect you but I don't ignore you. Obviously I don't seek your response when I make comments about the drivel you write here. You don't engage in conversations you simply sermonize. You talk at people not to them and you run from real engagement by simply hurling insults the moment anyone actually tries to converse with you. In this way, and in many others, you are a fuck up and a failure and you run scared. Dittoes. Also amazing that he thinks folks still believe this crap, if they ever did. (snip) Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around them any other way? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India
I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas and KIAs being driven. If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in the US it will get sold here. I live in a refinery town and my guess the company engineers are the ones who buy these first. :-D On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and runs on air. Really. Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp image http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the Airpod... View on www.core77.com http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp Preview by Yahoo
RE: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India
Seems like it wouldn't pass a crash test, unless significantly modified. No front bumpers even. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:03 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas and KIAs being driven. If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in the US it will get sold here. I live in a refinery town and my guess the company engineers are the ones who buy these first. :-D On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and runs on air. Really. Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_2 3193.asp http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_2 3193.asp http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_2 3193.asp Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the Airpod... http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_2 3193.asp View on www.core77.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
Share, I love that song too. I'm still wondering about the details as to why they used the words from Ecclesiastes. And, that song was made when the hippie movement was fairly strong. This quote can also apply to jyotish. So, it covers all the affairs of people on this earth.
[FairfieldLife] Angels Fly
As my seven-year anniversary of being on the IA course nears, I felt compelled to give an overview of my experiences in hopes that it may be of value. Using every trick in the book; every tool in the box, to squeeze every bit of evolutionary potential out of every moment, has yielded a rich harvest of varied and profound experiences. But, I needed to pierce the veil of chhandas and achieve escape velocity, beyond the cloudy atmosphere of collective consciousness, to reach the real, true, genuine and consistent experiences, that could not be denied by the most jaded of intellects, nor could have they been contrived out of some unconscious desire for self-aggrandizement. So, rather than provide a long litany of flashy ephemeral displays of pyrotechnics and eye-candy, I will attempt, given the limitations of language, to comprehensively, yet concisely convey those bench-marks and watershed moments, when a new, more expanded and stable state of being, was achieved. Now, please bear in mind, these occurred over time. But, if I had to describe their overall pattern of development, I would say that I would be going along, day to day, thinking maybe that nothing was happening, but steadily putting my time in. Then there would be a gathering of momentum, an increase in tempo and variety, to crescendo at an event horizon, a transcendental quantum leap, then I would find myself waking up in the realization of a new state of being and style of functioning. This process repeated itself, again and again, over time. A key component discovered, which significantly changed the whole nature and color of my experiences, having grown up in a society where fatigue is considered a caffeine deficiency, and that is, my friends, rest is king. Silence penetrated, then inundated, until it permeated every particle and fiber of my being; bubbling, percolating and roaring with the deafening impact of a great waterfall disappearing into a calm, clear pool of peace that passes all understanding. Then, over time, within this peace, blossomed a restfully alert state of poise, where I spontaneously found myself, assuming the royal pace of an elephant, while pouncing like a tiger in all directions: I am still as a mountain; flowing like a great river. Then again, over time, within this state of poise, blossomed a power, which passed into my experience without effort or labor. And, I found things steadily coming my way, and coming my way without that awful effort that destroys the peace of mind of the majority of mankind. And, I feel such deep ease, enfolded in the arms of infinite divine love, taking care of me. I experience myself as the center and circumference; the point and the whole. The sutras weaving point-to-whole, and whole-to-point, into an exquisite tapestry of vibrant awareness. The sutras are multi-faceted gems, each of unique character and hue, dropping into the ocean of my being, reverberating out to whole and back again. The returning waves crossing the outgoing waves forming vertices, that become planes of primordial geometry. I do not experience this geometry as static, but as a stable harmonic resonance of divine musical vibration. Yet this geometry also contains a dynamic flowing quality, with a funnel style hole, that goes completely through a sphere that continually flows in, around and on itself. This archetypal geometry, with its dynamic flow, clusters and generates the plethora of forms and phenomena found manifest everywhere in my experience. And, I really have to thank Maharishi for giving me a backstage pass to the universe: a golden ticket to the symphony of creation behind Vishwakarman's magic show. A shift took place in my awareness from experiencing consciousness existing within and a function of my physiology, to my body existing within and as my consciousness; as an individualized, ever changing state of wholeness, moving within my Self. And I found myself able to experientially discriminate the successive states of my own material manifestation: I can see, feel, hear, taste etc air, fire, water, earth and even the mineral densities of self. But, even at the greatest depth of density I experience the gold of universal soul; I see the brilliance of indwelling light; I feel the fire of boundless divine love. Yet, this light does not blind, and this fire does not burn, but continually fills me with ever expanding delight. And while I am able to discriminate these individual stages, it remains one stream of awareness; one infinite reverberation. Then, over time, I found myself able to do the same with other individualized aspects of Self, be it person, place or thing. In terms of right action, I went from needing a long logical reasoning process, which only yielded about 50% results, essentially the probability of a coin toss, to the next stage where I was able to apprehend right action, but
[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
'The kingdom of go is within you' English is kind of ambiguous in this phrase. A more literal translation would be 'the kingdom of god is in of you' and the word 'you' is second person plural in Greek but English does not make that distinction except by context, and the context does not make very clear the plural 'you' in English translations. A SAMPLING OF TRANSLATIONS WILLIAM TYNDALE (the first English translation, 1526) LUKE 17:20–21 When he was demaunded of ye pharises when the kyngdome of God shuld come: he answered them and sayde: The kyngdome of God cometh not with waytinge for. Nether shall men saye: Loo here loo there. For beholde the kyngdome of God is with in you. KING JAMES VERSION (1604) LUKE 17:20–21 And when hee was demanded of the Pharises, when the kingdome of God should come, hee answered them, and said, The kingdome of God commeth not with obseruation. Neither shall they say, Loe here, or loe there: for behold, the kingdome of God is within you. COMPLETE JEWISH BIBLE LUKE 17:20–21 (c) 1998 David Stern The P'rushim asked Yeshua when the Kingdom of God would come. The Kingdom of God, he answered, does not come with visible signs; nor will people be able to say, 'Look! Here it is!' or, 'Over there!' Because, you see, the Kingdom of God is among you. DOUAY-RHEIMS (1899) LUKE 17:20–21 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come? he answered them, and said: The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say: Behold here, or behold there. For lo, the kingdom of God is within you. NEW ENGLISH TRANSLATION (2005) LUKE 17:20–21 Now at one point the Pharisees asked Jesus when the kingdom of God was coming, so he answered, The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'There!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is in your midst. GOSPEL OF THOMAS (in Coptic, English translation 1959) LOG. 3 But the kingdom is within you and it is without you. If you know yourselves, then you will be know and you will know that you are the sons of the living father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you are poverty. GOSPEL OF THOMAS (in Coptic, English translation 1959) LOG. 113 His disciples said to him when will the kingdom come? It will not come by expectation they will not say 'see here' or 'see there' but the kingdom of the father is spread upon the earth and men do not see it. Note that in none of the early manuscripts are there upper and lower case letters, just a single case, and there is no punctuation either. The terms upper and lower case come from moveable type typesetting == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : More esoteric/gnostic early Christian writings such as the Gospel of Thomas are far more clear in their mystical phrasing concerning the Kingdom of Heaven, though, of course, they aren't considered canon by any modern form of Christianity. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : P.S.: The complete sentence is, The Kingdom of God is within/among/in the midst of you--you meaning the Pharisees. You can't leave off the you without seriously misrepresenting what Jesus was saying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Actually, there's major scholarly disagreement with the translation within. Jesus was directly addressing the Pharisees, after all, not making a general statement; and he'd made it crystal clear that he thought they were corrupt inside and out. Just contextually, it's extremely unlikely he was saying the Kingdom of God was within the Pharisees. Most translations other than the KJV have among or in the midst of or similar, referring to the Pharisees' inability to recognize Jesus as the representative of God's Kingdom. Organized religions don't talk much about transcending simply because they lack the methods to achieve it. The Kingdom of God is within must the most revolutionary concept in Christianity yet is rarely or even never discussed out of fear the Church would loose it's grip on the people. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : More esoteric/gnostic early Christian writings such as the Gospel of Thomas are far more clear in their mystical phrasing concerning the Kingdom of Heaven, though, of course, they aren't considered canon by any modern form of Christianity. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : P.S.: The complete sentence is, The Kingdom of God is within/among/in the midst of you--you meaning the Pharisees. You can't leave off the you without seriously misrepresenting what Jesus was saying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Actually, there's major scholarly disagreement with the translation within. Jesus was directly addressing the Pharisees,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
'The kingdom of god is within you' English is kind of ambiguous in this phrase. A more literal translation would be 'the kingdom of god is in of you' and the word 'you' is second person plural in Greek but English does not make that distinction except by context, and the context does not make very clear the plural 'you' in English translations. A SAMPLING OF TRANSLATIONS WILLIAM TYNDALE (the first English translation, 1526) LUKE 17:20–21 When he was demaunded of ye pharises when the kyngdome of God shuld come: he answered them and sayde: The kyngdome of God cometh not with waytinge for. Nether shall men saye: Loo here loo there. For beholde the kyngdome of God is with in you. KING JAMES VERSION (1604) LUKE 17:20–21 And when hee was demanded of the Pharises, when the kingdome of God should come, hee answered them, and said, The kingdome of God commeth not with obseruation. Neither shall they say, Loe here, or loe there: for behold, the kingdome of God is within you. COMPLETE JEWISH BIBLE LUKE 17:20–21 (c) 1998 David Stern The P'rushim asked Yeshua when the Kingdom of God would come. The Kingdom of God, he answered, does not come with visible signs; nor will people be able to say, 'Look! Here it is!' or, 'Over there!' Because, you see, the Kingdom of God is among you. DOUAY-RHEIMS (1899) LUKE 17:20–21 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come? he answered them, and said: The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say: Behold here, or behold there. For lo, the kingdom of God is within you. NEW ENGLISH TRANSLATION (2005) LUKE 17:20–21 Now at one point the Pharisees asked Jesus when the kingdom of God was coming, so he answered, The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'There!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is in your midst. GOSPEL OF THOMAS (in Coptic, English translation 1959) LOG. 3 But the kingdom is within you and it is without you. If you know yourselves, then you will be know and you will know that you are the sons of the living father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you are poverty. GOSPEL OF THOMAS (in Coptic, English translation 1959) LOG. 113 His disciples said to him when will the kingdom come? It will not come by expectation they will not say 'see here' or 'see there' but the kingdom of the father is spread upon the earth and men do not see it. Note that in none of the early manuscripts are there upper and lower case letters, just a single case, and there is no punctuation either. The terms upper and lower case come from moveable type typesetting == ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : More esoteric/gnostic early Christian writings such as the Gospel of Thomas are far more clear in their mystical phrasing concerning the Kingdom of Heaven, though, of course, they aren't considered canon by any modern form of Christianity. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : P.S.: The complete sentence is, The Kingdom of God is within/among/in the midst of you--you meaning the Pharisees. You can't leave off the you without seriously misrepresenting what Jesus was saying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Actually, there's major scholarly disagreement with the translation within. Jesus was directly addressing the Pharisees, after all, not making a general statement; and he'd made it crystal clear that he thought they were corrupt inside and out. Just contextually, it's extremely unlikely he was saying the Kingdom of God was within the Pharisees. Most translations other than the KJV have among or in the midst of or similar, referring to the Pharisees' inability to recognize Jesus as the representative of God's Kingdom. Organized religions don't talk much about transcending simply because they lack the methods to achieve it. The Kingdom of God is within must the most revolutionary concept in Christianity yet is rarely or even never discussed out of fear the Church would loose it's grip on the people.
Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism
I tend not to agree with Barry about free will, but then this is a subject whose resolution seems impossible to determine. One of my early spiritual experiences was about free will and determinism. My interpretation of that experience was that they were equivalent, like the faces on the same coin, differing views of the same process. I had been having experiences like this for about two years. I had also just learned TM a few weeks before, and it did not seem to be the trigger for such experiences, though it may have greased the wheels a bit. Experiences like this come when the mind is fully engaged with the world. One of the first spiritual techniques I encountered were insults. Now normally insults do not result in spiritual awakening or even understanding, but in a proper context they can. I do not think FFL, even though it nominally is about spirituality, is a useful context. Insults in a useful context however can highlight conditioned responses. Whether or not there is such a thing as free will, the human sense of freedom depends on how many output options we have available for a given input. With some people, if you say to them, 'you are a fucking goddamn ass hole, and your mother slept with a dog' your best option is probably to run for your life. So I was sitting with this group, doing guided meditations etc., before I learned Zen meditation, and before other techniques and before I learned TM, and the instructor started hurling insults. Some people got really upset, would stand up and say they felt really insulted and that they deserved some respect. They did not get any. But later on it became evident that this was a technique to highlight one's conditioned responses to verbal input. It was the context of this particular event that made the insults a piece of valuable information and experience, because what followed them provided the insight into what was really happening in our minds. The following historical story highlights a use of the technique: The Prime Minister of the Tang Dynasty was a national hero for his success as both a statesman and military leader. But despite his fame, power, and wealth, he considered himself a humble and devout Buddhist. Often he visited his favourite Zen master to study under him, and they seemed to get along very well. The fact that he was prime minister apparently had no effect on their relationship, which seemed to be simply one of a revered master and respectful student. One day, during his usual visit, the Prime Minister asked the master, Your Reverence, what is egotism according to Buddhism? The master's face turned red, and in a very condescending and insulting tone of voice, he shot back, What kind of stupid question is that!? This unexpected response so shocked the Prime Minister that he became sullen and angry. The Zen master then smiled and said, THIS, Your Excellency, is egotism. Take a thermostat. It has basically one or two outputs to input. The temperature goes down, it closes a circuit and starts a heater; when the temperature rises, it opens the circuit and the heater stops. A slightly more complex system adds cooling: if the room gets too warm, it starts air conditioning as well. Some people do have about this many options to respond to input, even though the neural networks in the brain are far far more complex than a thermostat. Part of spiritual discipline is dealing consciously with one's conditioning that limits responses. Now in TM philosophy, the processes of de-conditioning, and the understanding of conditioning do not seem so overtly expressed as in some other traditions. In Zen, koans deal with various facets of the mind's conditioning by forcing an experience that goes beyond bipolar logic. On FFL, most responses to certain kinds of verbal input, what appears to be an insult, is simply to respond with another insult. Thus you have elevated your consciousness to the status of a simple thermostat. So part of the game of 'becoming free' is to widen options of response to inputs. We have lots of conditioned responses, some of them hard wired (the knee jerk reflex for example), but quite a lot are programmed into us by our parents and culture. Look at any government where there are parliaments with two more or less equal parties with opposing views, and you can predict responses of the two sides fairly accurately. Spiritual practises like meditation help to loosen the mind's grip in this respect, but some form of conscious highlighting the fact we have such conditioned responses really needs to be in operation. It is difficult to be really aware of how mechanical we are until 'Brahman consciousness' begins to settle in. It is only then that the mind becomes aware of how much its interpretation of the world of experience (that is, all of it) is simply a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Angels Fly
This is a fun read - the key element, to me, being the very dynamic, yet coherent, aspect of the whole process [of enlightenment]. Refreshing, too, to read the account of someone established in Being, vs. the 'experts' on here, with a lifetime total, of a couple weeks of witnessing under their belt. Thanks for sharing, Raunchy - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : As my seven-year anniversary of being on the IA course nears, I felt compelled to give an overview of my experiences in hopes that it may be of value. Using every trick in the book; every tool in the box, to squeeze every bit of evolutionary potential out of every moment, has yielded a rich harvest of varied and profound experiences. But, I needed to pierce the veil of chhandas and achieve escape velocity, beyond the cloudy atmosphere of collective consciousness, to reach the real, true, genuine and consistent experiences, that could not be denied by the most jaded of intellects, nor could have they been contrived out of some unconscious desire for self-aggrandizement. So, rather than provide a long litany of flashy ephemeral displays of pyrotechnics and eye-candy, I will attempt, given the limitations of language, to comprehensively, yet concisely convey those bench-marks and watershed moments, when a new, more expanded and stable state of being, was achieved. Now, please bear in mind, these occurred over time. But, if I had to describe their overall pattern of development, I would say that I would be going along, day to day, thinking maybe that nothing was happening, but steadily putting my time in. Then there would be a gathering of momentum, an increase in tempo and variety, to crescendo at an event horizon, a transcendental quantum leap, then I would find myself waking up in the realization of a new state of being and style of functioning. This process repeated itself, again and again, over time. A key component discovered, which significantly changed the whole nature and color of my experiences, having grown up in a society where fatigue is considered a caffeine deficiency, and that is, my friends, rest is king. Silence penetrated, then inundated, until it permeated every particle and fiber of my being; bubbling, percolating and roaring with the deafening impact of a great waterfall disappearing into a calm, clear pool of peace that passes all understanding. Then, over time, within this peace, blossomed a restfully alert state of poise, where I spontaneously found myself, assuming the royal pace of an elephant, while pouncing like a tiger in all directions: I am still as a mountain; flowing like a great river. Then again, over time, within this state of poise, blossomed a power, which passed into my experience without effort or labor. And, I found things steadily coming my way, and coming my way without that awful effort that destroys the peace of mind of the majority of mankind. And, I feel such deep ease, enfolded in the arms of infinite divine love, taking care of me. I experience myself as the center and circumference; the point and the whole. The sutras weaving point-to-whole, and whole-to-point, into an exquisite tapestry of vibrant awareness. The sutras are multi-faceted gems, each of unique character and hue, dropping into the ocean of my being, reverberating out to whole and back again. The returning waves crossing the outgoing waves forming vertices, that become planes of primordial geometry. I do not experience this geometry as static, but as a stable harmonic resonance of divine musical vibration. Yet this geometry also contains a dynamic flowing quality, with a funnel style hole, that goes completely through a sphere that continually flows in, around and on itself. This archetypal geometry, with its dynamic flow, clusters and generates the plethora of forms and phenomena found manifest everywhere in my experience. And, I really have to thank Maharishi for giving me a backstage pass to the universe: a golden ticket to the symphony of creation behind Vishwakarman's magic show. A shift took place in my awareness from experiencing consciousness existing within and a function of my physiology, to my body existing within and as my consciousness; as an individualized, ever changing state of wholeness, moving within my Self. And I found myself able to experientially discriminate the successive states of my own material manifestation: I can see, feel, hear, taste etc air, fire, water, earth and even the mineral densities of self. But, even at the greatest depth of density I experience the gold of universal soul; I see the brilliance of indwelling light; I feel the fire of boundless divine love. Yet, this light does not blind, and this fire does not burn, but continually fills me with ever expanding delight. And while I am able to discriminate these individual stages, it remains one stream of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
Glad you got the smack down - See, you can behave yourself, as this post demonstrates, and you are back on safe ground (TV). One quarter gold star, for you (that's motivation, son...). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Just a note for those who may be following Game Of Thrones on HBO, or wherever you get it. Mild spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet, but I just had to rap about how magnificent Peter Dinklage was in the latest episode, The Laws of Gods and Men. As some critics have already noted, this episode is pretty much a shoe-in to be the one that Mr. Dinklage will submit as his Emmy nomination reel when time comes to do so. I hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe award he won in 2012. In the time since, he has risen from Supporting Role to top billed on the series, and with good reason. While Cersei Lannister may be the most hated character (although I personally lean more towards Ramsay Snow in that regard), Tyrion is by far the most loved. He has the most star power, and reputedly has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as well, in a series known for its incredibly handsome hunks. And he's a dwarf. That's a big thing to transcend, both in the plot of this epic work, and in real life. In this episode, standing in the dock on trial for his life, we watch Tyrion deal with a series of disappointments and betrayals that would sink a man twice his size and reduce him to helpless depression and surrender. Instead, he rises to the occasion, and to the full measure of his 4'5 (1.35 m) stature and delivers one of the great courtroom speeches ever delivered onscreen. In it, as Tyrion rails about what it's felt like to be on trial for being a dwarf his whole life, and the occasional anger he feels about this, we can *feel* Peter Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage transcended that trial and that anger, and now is near the top of the acting hierarchy. Good for him. And hopefully good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I haven't read the books, so what happens to him is still a mystery to me. I look forward to it being resolved, but hopefully not before a few more speeches like this one.
RE: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India
Yes, but they can advertise it as from the same car family as, and I hate to admit it, Jaguar (now produced by India's Tata Motors). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Seems like it wouldn’t pass a crash test, unless significantly modified. No front bumpers even. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:03 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas and KIAs being driven. If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in the US it will get sold here. I live in a refinery town and my guess the company engineers are the ones who buy these first. :-D On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and runs on air. Really. Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the Airpod... View on www.core77.com http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
A fave of mine, too. Written by Pete Seeger, and made famous by the Byrds. Here's Pete, on God, from wikipedia: When asked about his religious or spiritual views, Seeger replied: I feel most spiritual when I’m out in the woods. I feel part of nature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism. Or looking up at the stars. [I used to say] I was an atheist. Now I say, it’s all according to your definition of God. According to my definition of God, I’m not an atheist. Because I think God is everything. Whenever I open my eyes I’m looking at God. Whenever I’m listening to something I’m listening to God. ;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Share, I love that song too. I'm still wondering about the details as to why they used the words from Ecclesiastes. And, that song was made when the hippie movement was fairly strong. This quote can also apply to jyotish. So, it covers all the affairs of people on this earth.
[FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend
Fleetwood, Thanks for that info. Now everybody knows a little bit more about this Byrd song. From what remember, Qoheleth was the author of Ecclesiastes from which this passage came from. At first glance, this passage sounds more of a lament of life in general. But, since it got included in the OT, there must some hidden meaning behind it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
Sorry about the spoiler Turq - I wasn't thinking. I will tell you this and it does not reveal anything about the show - in some ways the show is superior to and more enjoyable than the books because one of the reasons there are so many books and they are so long is that Martin gives you a tremendous amount of back story that explains the history and motivations of the families that don't really have to do with the current story except to explain why this lord hates that lord and so on. The show ignores or cuts through what is not really relevant right now. I mean you will be in the middle of seeing what Jon Snow is doing and then you have to read page after page of history before you are brought back to current events. On Tue, 5/13/14, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014, 2:52 PM I have read all the books and surprisingly, Tyrion is one of the FEW characters that has longevity in the series - he cheats death any number of times. On Tue, 5/13/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014, 2:30 PM Just a note for those who may be following Game Of Thrones on HBO, or wherever you get it. Mild spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet, but I just had to rap about how magnificent Peter Dinklage was in the latest episode, The Laws of Gods and Men. As some critics have already noted, this episode is pretty much a shoe-in to be the one that Mr. Dinklage will submit as his Emmy nomination reel when time comes to do so. I hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe award he won in 2012. In the time since, he has risen from Supporting Role to top billed on the series, and with good reason. While Cersei Lannister may be the most hated character (although I personally lean more towards Ramsay Snow in that regard), Tyrion is by far the most loved. He has the most star power, and reputedly has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as well, in a series known for its incredibly handsome hunks. And he's a dwarf. That's a big thing to transcend, both in the plot of this epic work, and in real life. In this episode, standing in the dock on trial for his life, we watch Tyrion deal with a series of disappointments and betrayals that would sink a man twice his size and reduce him to helpless depression and surrender. Instead, he rises to the occasion, and to the full measure of his 4'5 (1.35 m) stature and delivers one of the great courtroom speeches ever delivered onscreen. In it, as Tyrion rails about what it's felt like to be on trial for being a dwarf his whole life, and the occasional anger he feels about this, we can *feel* Peter Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage transcended that trial and that anger, and now is near the top of the acting hierarchy. Good for him. And hopefully good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I haven't read the books, so what happens to him is still a mystery to me. I look forward to it being resolved, but hopefully not before a few more speeches like this one. #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185 -- #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp #yiv7953382185hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp #yiv7953382185ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp .yiv7953382185ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp .yiv7953382185ad p { margin:0;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-mkp .yiv7953382185ad a { color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-sponsor #yiv7953382185ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-sponsor #yiv7953382185ygrp-lc #yiv7953382185hd { margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #yiv7953382185 #yiv7953382185ygrp-sponsor #yiv7953382185ygrp-lc .yiv7953382185ad {
[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India
Britishjaguar, yes now owned by Tata Motors since 2008 http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ The airy article says: They enlisted the help of MDI,.. Actually The Air Car according to air-pressed- google- engine- has been in development for twenty years already by MIDI-Motor Development International SA a French -not British company (incorporated in Luxembourg) whose tech-chic atelier lies in Carros, a palmy industrial suburb of Nice, France. Guy and Cyril Nègre (a self-taught mechanic who studied philosophy and worked in French carmaker Renault’s advertising department in the 1960s before setting up his first engine-design shop.), the father-and-son team behind MDI, runs out of money so Tata (and other countries) licensed MDI's technology with the aim of producing and selling compressed air cars in India.. Pneumatic propulsion was high tech in the late 19th century, when compressed-air engines and equipment became commonplace in Europe and North America. Networks of compressed-air piping vied with then-nascent electrical grids to power machine tools, railway hoists, and switch-yards, among other heavy gear. A compressed-air propulsion system for trams was already invented by Louis Mékarski and tested in Paris in 1876 and introduced to the tramways of Nantes in 1879. Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system The Mekarski system was a compressed-air propulsion system for trams invented by Louis Mékarski or Louis Mékarsky (the correct spelling is uncertai... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Preview by Yahoo No independent testing laboratory has assessed the AirPod’s performance. The two big B`s poster at FFL( who seems to work both secretly hard on a design for a Vedic Car with the MVP and M.Golden Dome compressed air producer) will tell you and confirm this: In the computer industry that’s known as vaporware, an appellation that seems oddly appropriate for a car that runs on air. But my dear fleeting wood , do not cry for Jaguar and the British! According to this report the British are the only one who are friendly enough to give always a helping hand for this kind of car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Jeremy takes the extreme sport of Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help ke... View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Preview by Yahoo Love and how you say--- have a nice day
[FairfieldLife] 5/13-Maharishi: The normality of Brahman
Purusha member Dave Hooper e-mails quotes from Maharishi such as this and the one I sent you about mothers on Sunday. If you would like to receive them, you can e-mail and request him to add you to his list. MAHARISH: This sutra* teaches the normality of Brahman and warns the aspirant not to make any fuss about it. It is a normal, natural state. Live it is as it is. Finished. (Laughter) VERNON KATZ: I wish we had something to make a fuss about. (Laughter) MAHARISHI: It's a normal, natural state. Live it as it is. Finished. JEMIMA PITTMAN: Well, it sounds good enough, Maharishi, but . . . MAHARISHI: We have only to start living it. ~Srinagar, Kashmir, India -- Summer 1969~ ~Conversations with Maharishi, Volume 1 -- Edited by Dr. Vernon Katz -- 2011~ *In this instance, Maharishi is referring to one of the Brahma Sutras * * * * * * * 1. TM Media Alert (USA): Creativity, Transcendental Meditation and Brain Integration -- tm-women.org -- Linda Egenes/ May 12, 2014 2. TM Media Alert (USA): Dr. Pamela Peeke: Transcendental Meditation is good science (video) -- Frequency.com -- May 12, 2014 Jai Guru Dev -- David Hooper 1000 Purusha Place, Suite 219 Romney, WV 26757 davehooper...@gmail.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India
At $10K US it would cost too much for a simple car especially if the trikke car (Elio) is going to sell for less than $7K. As for crash tests people do ride around on motobikes and mopeds. A few mods might make it pass but how much energy does it use to pump it up? The reason that smart cars haven't exactly taken off is their mileage is not that much difference from something like a Toyota Yaris. On 05/13/2014 12:48 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, but they can advertise it as from the same car family as, and I hate to admit it, Jaguar (now produced by India's Tata Motors). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Seems like it wouldn’t pass a crash test, unless significantly modified.No front bumpers even. *From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:03 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas and KIAs being driven. If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in the US it will get sold here. I live in a refinery town and my guess the company engineers are the ones who buy these first. :-D On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and runs on air. Really. /* */Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp/* image http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the Airpod... View on *www.core77.com* http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
The dumbass Democrats need to look for someone else, someone younger who will appeal to younger voters. But I don't think they get it any better than the Republicans do. On 05/13/2014 01:06 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: 5/13-Maharishi: The normality of Brahman
You can also order Conversations with Maharishi vol. 1 from MUM, highly recommendable. Lot's of very interesting topics, the translation and commentaries to the Brahma Sutras being one of the best. Maharishi's humor and Vernon's constant nagging coming as a good nr 2 :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote : Purusha member Dave Hooper e-mails quotes from Maharishi such as this and the one I sent you about mothers on Sunday. If you would like to receive them, you can e-mail and request him to add you to his list. MAHARISH: This sutra* teaches the normality of Brahman and warns the aspirant not to make any fuss about it. It is a normal, natural state. Live it is as it is. Finished. (Laughter) VERNON KATZ: I wish we had something to make a fuss about. (Laughter) MAHARISHI: It's a normal, natural state. Live it as it is. Finished. JEMIMA PITTMAN: Well, it sounds good enough, Maharishi, but . . . MAHARISHI: We have only to start living it. ~Srinagar, Kashmir, India -- Summer 1969~ ~Conversations with Maharishi, Volume 1 -- Edited by Dr. Vernon Katz -- 2011~ *In this instance, Maharishi is referring to one of the Brahma Sutras * * * * * * * 1. TM Media Alert (USA): Creativity, Transcendental Meditation and Brain Integration -- tm-women.org http://tm-women.org/ -- Linda Egenes/ May 12, 2014 2. TM Media Alert (USA): Dr. Pamela Peeke: Transcendental Meditation is good science (video) -- Frequency.com http://Frequency.com/ -- May 12, 2014 Jai Guru Dev -- David Hooper 1000 Purusha Place, Suite 219 Romney, WV 26757 davehoopermpp@... mailto:davehoopermpp@...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India
A 'Reliant Robin'! The guy up the block works on old British cars, and I've seen one of those parked around here. Also a two-seater, bubble-top, right-hand drive, that the owner rides around in, with his dalmatian in the passenger seat, looking as if the dog is driving. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Britishjaguar, yes now owned by Tata Motors since 2008 http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ The airy article says: They enlisted the help of MDI,.. Actually The Air Car according to air-pressed- google- engine- has been in development for twenty years already by MIDI-Motor Development International SA a French -not British company (incorporated in Luxembourg) whose tech-chic atelier lies in Carros, a palmy industrial suburb of Nice, France. Guy and Cyril Nègre (a self-taught mechanic who studied philosophy and worked in French carmaker Renault’s advertising department in the 1960s before setting up his first engine-design shop.), the father-and-son team behind MDI, runs out of money so Tata (and other countries) licensed MDI's technology with the aim of producing and selling compressed air cars in India.. Pneumatic propulsion was high tech in the late 19th century, when compressed-air engines and equipment became commonplace in Europe and North America. Networks of compressed-air piping vied with then-nascent electrical grids to power machine tools, railway hoists, and switch-yards, among other heavy gear. A compressed-air propulsion system for trams was already invented by Louis Mékarski and tested in Paris in 1876 and introduced to the tramways of Nantes in 1879. Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system The Mekarski system was a compressed-air propulsion system for trams invented by Louis Mékarski or Louis Mékarsky (the correct spelling is uncertai... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Preview by Yahoo No independent testing laboratory has assessed the AirPod’s performance. The two big B`s poster at FFL( who seems to work both secretly hard on a design for a Vedic Car with the MVP and M.Golden Dome compressed air producer) will tell you and confirm this: In the computer industry that’s known as vaporware, an appellation that seems oddly appropriate for a car that runs on air. But my dear fleeting wood , do not cry for Jaguar and the British! According to this report the British are the only one who are friendly enough to give always a helping hand for this kind of car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Jeremy takes the extreme sport of Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help ke... View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Preview by Yahoo Love and how you say--- have a nice day
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: 5/13-Maharishi: The normality of Brahman
Good to know, for us brainwashed cult members - Thank you! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You can also order Conversations with Maharishi vol. 1 from MUM, highly recommendable. Lot's of very interesting topics, the translation and commentaries to the Brahma Sutras being one of the best. Maharishi's humor and Vernon's constant nagging coming as a good nr 2 :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote : Purusha member Dave Hooper e-mails quotes from Maharishi such as this and the one I sent you about mothers on Sunday. If you would like to receive them, you can e-mail and request him to add you to his list. MAHARISH: This sutra* teaches the normality of Brahman and warns the aspirant not to make any fuss about it. It is a normal, natural state. Live it is as it is. Finished. (Laughter) VERNON KATZ: I wish we had something to make a fuss about. (Laughter) MAHARISHI: It's a normal, natural state. Live it as it is. Finished. JEMIMA PITTMAN: Well, it sounds good enough, Maharishi, but . . . MAHARISHI: We have only to start living it. ~Srinagar, Kashmir, India -- Summer 1969~ ~Conversations with Maharishi, Volume 1 -- Edited by Dr. Vernon Katz -- 2011~ *In this instance, Maharishi is referring to one of the Brahma Sutras * * * * * * * 1. TM Media Alert (USA): Creativity, Transcendental Meditation and Brain Integration -- tm-women.org http://tm-women.org/ -- Linda Egenes/ May 12, 2014 2. TM Media Alert (USA): Dr. Pamela Peeke: Transcendental Meditation is good science (video) -- Frequency.com http://Frequency.com/ -- May 12, 2014 Jai Guru Dev -- David Hooper 1000 Purusha Place, Suite 219 Romney, WV 26757 davehoopermpp@... mailto:davehoopermpp@...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Bhairitu, The Democrats better start looking for another presidential candidate now. It would appear that Biden is a shoo-in for the candidacy. But he will be running a weak period during the election. So, he's vulnerable to a loss at the polls. Elizabeth Warren has a strong chart for career. But she will be running a weak period as well during the election. As such, it would be wise for her not to run. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The dumbass Democrats need to look for someone else, someone younger who will appeal to younger voters. But I don't think they get it any better than the Republicans do. On 05/13/2014 01:06 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India
Are you sure it was a dalmatian? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : A 'Reliant Robin'! The guy up the block works on old British cars, and I've seen one of those parked around here. Also a two-seater, bubble-top, right-hand drive, that the owner rides around in, with his dalmatian in the passenger seat, looking as if the dog is driving. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Britishjaguar, yes now owned by Tata Motors since 2008 http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ The airy article says: They enlisted the help of MDI,.. Actually The Air Car according to air-pressed- google- engine- has been in development for twenty years already by MIDI-Motor Development International SA a French -not British company (incorporated in Luxembourg) whose tech-chic atelier lies in Carros, a palmy industrial suburb of Nice, France. Guy and Cyril Nègre (a self-taught mechanic who studied philosophy and worked in French carmaker Renault’s advertising department in the 1960s before setting up his first engine-design shop.), the father-and-son team behind MDI, runs out of money so Tata (and other countries) licensed MDI's technology with the aim of producing and selling compressed air cars in India.. Pneumatic propulsion was high tech in the late 19th century, when compressed-air engines and equipment became commonplace in Europe and North America. Networks of compressed-air piping vied with then-nascent electrical grids to power machine tools, railway hoists, and switch-yards, among other heavy gear. A compressed-air propulsion system for trams was already invented by Louis Mékarski and tested in Paris in 1876 and introduced to the tramways of Nantes in 1879. Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system The Mekarski system was a compressed-air propulsion system for trams invented by Louis Mékarski or Louis Mékarsky (the correct spelling is uncertai... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Preview by Yahoo No independent testing laboratory has assessed the AirPod’s performance. The two big B`s poster at FFL( who seems to work both secretly hard on a design for a Vedic Car with the MVP and M.Golden Dome compressed air producer) will tell you and confirm this: In the computer industry that’s known as vaporware, an appellation that seems oddly appropriate for a car that runs on air. But my dear fleeting wood , do not cry for Jaguar and the British! According to this report the British are the only one who are friendly enough to give always a helping hand for this kind of car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Jeremy takes the extreme sport of Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help ke... View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Preview by Yahoo Love and how you say--- have a nice day
RE: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India
Sometimes when traveling by car, I'd have the CB radio turned on. It was always funny to hear truckers referring to little cars like these, should they get in an accident, as becoming a paper weight Come to think of it, the CB radio is quite an enduring technology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Seems like it wouldn’t pass a crash test, unless significantly modified. No front bumpers even. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:03 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas and KIAs being driven. If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in the US it will get sold here. I live in a refinery town and my guess the company engineers are the ones who buy these first. :-D On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and runs on air. Really. Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the Airpod... View on www.core77.com http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Hillary doesn't need young people to win. They don't vote unless it's for the Messiah. She needs independents, which is looking pretty good for her in the polls. 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination | RealClearPolitics http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination | R... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination View on www.realclearpoliti... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html Preview by Yahoo
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India
hmmm, perhaps a spotted corgi... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Are you sure it was a dalmatian? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : A 'Reliant Robin'! The guy up the block works on old British cars, and I've seen one of those parked around here. Also a two-seater, bubble-top, right-hand drive, that the owner rides around in, with his dalmatian in the passenger seat, looking as if the dog is driving. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Britishjaguar, yes now owned by Tata Motors since 2008 http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/ The airy article says: They enlisted the help of MDI,.. Actually The Air Car according to air-pressed- google- engine- has been in development for twenty years already by MIDI-Motor Development International SA a French -not British company (incorporated in Luxembourg) whose tech-chic atelier lies in Carros, a palmy industrial suburb of Nice, France. Guy and Cyril Nègre (a self-taught mechanic who studied philosophy and worked in French carmaker Renault’s advertising department in the 1960s before setting up his first engine-design shop.), the father-and-son team behind MDI, runs out of money so Tata (and other countries) licensed MDI's technology with the aim of producing and selling compressed air cars in India.. Pneumatic propulsion was high tech in the late 19th century, when compressed-air engines and equipment became commonplace in Europe and North America. Networks of compressed-air piping vied with then-nascent electrical grids to power machine tools, railway hoists, and switch-yards, among other heavy gear. A compressed-air propulsion system for trams was already invented by Louis Mékarski and tested in Paris in 1876 and introduced to the tramways of Nantes in 1879. Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system The Mekarski system was a compressed-air propulsion system for trams invented by Louis Mékarski or Louis Mékarsky (the correct spelling is uncertai... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system Preview by Yahoo No independent testing laboratory has assessed the AirPod’s performance. The two big B`s poster at FFL( who seems to work both secretly hard on a design for a Vedic Car with the MVP and M.Golden Dome compressed air producer) will tell you and confirm this: In the computer industry that’s known as vaporware, an appellation that seems oddly appropriate for a car that runs on air. But my dear fleeting wood , do not cry for Jaguar and the British! According to this report the British are the only one who are friendly enough to give always a helping hand for this kind of car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Jeremy takes the extreme sport of Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help ke... View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Preview by Yahoo Love and how you say--- have a nice day
[FairfieldLife] Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It
Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It Written by http://www.newslo.com/author/alex-kuzio/ Alex Kuzio May 12th 2014 WASHINGTON – Republican Senator Marco Rubio (FL), a prominent Christian and noted skeptic of climate change science, yesterday argued that Americans http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-rubio-denies-climate-change-20140511-story.html should resist efforts by the federal government to curb carbon dioxide emissions. Sen. Rubio, who is a likely candidate for president in 2016, said that such programs would be “against God’s Will,” since “for all we know, God wants the Earth to get warmer.” Speaking at a luncheon with potential donors, Rubio admitted that “it’s getting more and more difficult to deny that the Earth is getting hotter—just look at the new NASA report.” Rubio was referring to two studies http://www.businessinsider.com/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-means-2014-5 released Monday which indicate that the “melting of the Western Antarctic Ice sheet is unstoppable, and the glaciers are doomed to collapse and melt into the sea,” which will raise sea levels significantly, leaving much of the world’s coastal cities underwater. “So yeah, I don’t deny it’s happening,” Rubio said. “But what we absolutely cannot say for sure is that a warming Earth is not just part of God’s plan,” Rubio explained. “God knows what He’s doing, and it pleases Him to see half of Manhattan underwater and Miami wiped out completely, then we cannot stand in His way.” Rubio is a Roman Catholic, although he and his family practiced as Mormons for a time. He has said that he believes “with all [his] heart that God still destines for us an even better future and the opportunity to continue to serve as an inspiration to the world.” Today Rubio said that climate change doesn’t necessarily dash the hopes for a better future. “God destines us for a better future, and rising sea levels are a part of that, then it must be for the best,” he said. Rubio’s remarks follow those he made on Sunday, when he told “This Week” host George Stephanopoulos that he does not believe climate change is the result of human activity. “I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our climate the way these scientists are portraying it… [and] I do not believe that the laws that they propose we pass will do anything about it, except it will destroy our economy,” Rubio added. Today the senator clarified those remarks. “What I meant was that Jesus Himself is probably responsible for global warming,” he said. “I can’t tell you exactly why he’s doing it, but that’s what Faith is for—trusting that Jesus is warming up the planet so we can all live in water parks or something equally awesome.”
[FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It
I can't find any other newsource that quotes him saying things quite that extreme about God and Jesus and coimate change. THis feels more like something The Onion might write, but you never know. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It Written by Alex Kuzio http://www.newslo.com/author/alex-kuzio/ May 12th 2014 WASHINGTON – Republican Senator Marco Rubio (FL), a prominent Christian and noted skeptic of climate change science, yesterday argued that Americans should resist efforts http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-rubio-denies-climate-change-20140511-story.html by the federal government to curb carbon dioxide emissions. Sen. Rubio, who is a likely candidate for president in 2016, said that such programs would be “against God’s Will,” since “for all we know, God wants the Earth to get warmer.” Speaking at a luncheon with potential donors, Rubio admitted that “it’s getting more and more difficult to deny that the Earth is getting hotter—just look at the new NASA report.” Rubio was referring to two studies released Monday http://www.businessinsider.com/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-means-2014-5 which indicate that the “melting of the Western Antarctic Ice sheet is unstoppable, and the glaciers are doomed to collapse and melt into the sea,” which will raise sea levels significantly, leaving much of the world’s coastal cities underwater. “So yeah, I don’t deny it’s happening,” Rubio said. “But what we absolutely cannot say for sure is that a warming Earth is not just part of God’s plan,” Rubio explained. “God knows what He’s doing, and it pleases Him to see half of Manhattan underwater and Miami wiped out completely, then we cannot stand in His way.” Rubio is a Roman Catholic, although he and his family practiced as Mormons for a time. He has said that he believes “with all [his] heart that God still destines for us an even better future and the opportunity to continue to serve as an inspiration to the world.” Today Rubio said that climate change doesn’t necessarily dash the hopes for a better future. “God destines us for a better future, and rising sea levels are a part of that, then it must be for the best,” he said. Rubio’s remarks follow those he made on Sunday, when he told “This Week” host George Stephanopoulos that he does not believe climate change is the result of human activity. “I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our climate the way these scientists are portraying it… [and] I do not believe that the laws that they propose we pass will do anything about it, except it will destroy our economy,” Rubio added. Today the senator clarified those remarks. “What I meant was that Jesus Himself is probably responsible for global warming,” he said. “I can’t tell you exactly why he’s doing it, but that’s what Faith is for—trusting that Jesus is warming up the planet so we can all live in water parks or something equally awesome.”
[FairfieldLife] Conversations withe Maharishi: The normality of Brahman
Conversations with Maharishi By Dr. Vernon Katz Hardcover, 393 pages Published in 2011 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Speaks about Full Development of Human Consciousness The majestic panoramas of Lake Tahoe in California and the Kashmir Valley in the Himalayas provided the ideal settings for the conversations in this book. It was there in 1968 and 1969 that Maharishi began his as-yet-unpublished commentary on the Brahma Sutra, a key text of the timeless wisdom of Vedanta. The penetrating questions asked by Dr. Katz inspired deep insights from Maharishi on the nature and development of higher states of consciousness. Through Maharishi's words, the ultimate reality of life becomes meaningful and practical for people living today: anyone can awaken the wholeness of consciousness within. These conversations are suffused with bliss and serve as a tribute to Maharishi's legacy of knowledge for full development of the human heart and mind. Maharishi: People will enjoy this book. They will enjoy your insight. VK: I haven't any insight. It's your wisdom they will enjoy, and they will enjoy it all the more when set against my ignorance. Maharishi: See what insight you have! Dr. Vernon Katz brought such huge delight to Maharishi. His sweet and lovable nature was one thing-but his powerful and highly discriminating intellect and his repeated enquiries to Maharishi inspired Maharishi so much. Maharishi in conversation with Vernon brought out wave upon wave of the highest knowledge to satisfy Vernon's thirst to understand fully the Brahm Vidya that Maharishi was expounding to the world. And Maharishi loved him for it. Vernon's role has been a singular one in the history of Maharishi's unfoldment of Total Knowledge from the Vedic tradition. We are all grateful to him for what he has done for all of us, and for sharing his fascinating conversations with Maharishi in this book. - Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister Global Country of World Peace, President Maharishi University of Management In this long-awaited book, we join Dr. Vernon Katz as he sits by Maharishi's side, and we listen in on these exhilarating conversations about the highest potential of human life. We are on the scene as Maharishi brings to light the precious knowledge of enlightenment in its original purity and completeness. This book presents a clear exposition of this timeless wisdom along with the delight of being with Maharishi personally, in itself a treasure. - Dr. Craig Pearson, author, The Complete Book of Yogic Flying and The Supreme Awakening (in press) About the Author Vernon Katz is a trustee and a visiting professor at Maharishi University of Management, Fairfield, Iowa, U.S.A. He earned a first class honours degree and a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford University. His thesis on Indian philosophy was supervised by Dr. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, the eminent philosopher who became India's second president. Vernon's work with Maharishi on the Vedic literature began in 1962, when Maharishi invited him to assist with translation of the Bhagavad- Gita. Maharishi's insights into Vedic knowledge and its practical application for human life will be upheld and will benefit life for millennia to come. The conversations in this book give the reader a glimpse into a precious phase in the emergence of Maharishi's knowledge. Price: $39.00 Item# F06 Also, Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/ http://www.mumpress.com/ Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/ Maharishi University of Management Press offers you the latest, most comprehensive collections of books, videos, CD's and tapes on Maharishi's... View on www.mumpress.com http://www.mumpress.com/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversations withe Maharishi: The normality of Brahman
That is true. Is a really good book in conversation where you get to hear their sense of humor and Maharishi's depth around all this spiritual stuff. For academic reasons I have been reading through the sequence of a lot of earlier large format publications that Maharishi produced once the Heidelberg color presses were purchased to look at the historical progression through them. This Conversations with Maharishi book, though a recent post-humus book, drops in to that 1960's period of Maharishi's Being with the BGita and the Brahma Sutras. -Buck nablusoss1008 writes: Conversations with Maharishi vol. 1 from MUM, highly recommendable. Lot's of very interesting topics, the translation and commentaries to the Brahma Sutras being one of the best. Maharishi's humor and Vernon's constant nagging coming as a good nr 2 :-) Conversations with Maharishi By Dr. Vernon Katz Hardcover, 393 pages Published in 2011 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Speaks about Full Development of Human Consciousness The majestic panoramas of Lake Tahoe in California and the Kashmir Valley in the Himalayas provided the ideal settings for the conversations in this book. It was there in 1968 and 1969 that Maharishi began his as-yet-unpublished commentary on the Brahma Sutra, a key text of the timeless wisdom of Vedanta. The penetrating questions asked by Dr. Katz inspired deep insights from Maharishi on the nature and development of higher states of consciousness. Through Maharishi's words, the ultimate reality of life becomes meaningful and practical for people living today: anyone can awaken the wholeness of consciousness within. These conversations are suffused with bliss and serve as a tribute to Maharishi's legacy of knowledge for full development of the human heart and mind. Maharishi: People will enjoy this book. They will enjoy your insight. VK: I haven't any insight. It's your wisdom they will enjoy, and they will enjoy it all the more when set against my ignorance. Maharishi: See what insight you have! Dr. Vernon Katz brought such huge delight to Maharishi. His sweet and lovable nature was one thing-but his powerful and highly discriminating intellect and his repeated enquiries to Maharishi inspired Maharishi so much. Maharishi in conversation with Vernon brought out wave upon wave of the highest knowledge to satisfy Vernon's thirst to understand fully the Brahm Vidya that Maharishi was expounding to the world. And Maharishi loved him for it. Vernon's role has been a singular one in the history of Maharishi's unfoldment of Total Knowledge from the Vedic tradition. We are all grateful to him for what he has done for all of us, and for sharing his fascinating conversations with Maharishi in this book. - Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister Global Country of World Peace, President Maharishi University of Management In this long-awaited book, we join Dr. Vernon Katz as he sits by Maharishi's side, and we listen in on these exhilarating conversations about the highest potential of human life. We are on the scene as Maharishi brings to light the precious knowledge of enlightenment in its original purity and completeness. This book presents a clear exposition of this timeless wisdom along with the delight of being with Maharishi personally, in itself a treasure. - Dr. Craig Pearson, author, The Complete Book of Yogic Flying and The Supreme Awakening (in press) About the Author Vernon Katz is a trustee and a visiting professor at Maharishi University of Management, Fairfield, Iowa, U.S.A. He earned a first class honours degree and a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford University. His thesis on Indian philosophy was supervised by Dr. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, the eminent philosopher who became India's second president. Vernon's work with Maharishi on the Vedic literature began in 1962, when Maharishi invited him to assist with translation of the Bhagavad- Gita. Maharishi's insights into Vedic knowledge and its practical application for human life will be upheld and will benefit life for millennia to come. The conversations in this book give the reader a glimpse into a precious phase in the emergence of Maharishi's knowledge. Price: $39.00 Item# F06 Also, Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/ http://www.mumpress.com/ Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/ Maharishi University of Management Press offers you the latest, most comprehensive collections of books, videos, CD's and tapes on Maharishi's... View on www.mumpress.com http://www.mumpress.com/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
[FairfieldLife] Bernie in Iowa
Sen. Bernie Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Join us for the CCD’s largest fundraiser of the year. This is not an event to be missed! There will be a pre-dinner social hour with Congressman Dave Loebsack and Senator Jack Hatch, followed by dinner and a keynote address by Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. If you cannot obtain tickets online, please contact Jean Pardee at 242-8111 or jmpar...@mchsi.com Bernie Sanders may also be heard on Fairfield Iowa’s community radio station, KRUU-FM KRUU’s Dennis Raimondi is interviewing Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders on Tuesday, May 13 . Speaking Freely airs Tuesdays 1pm-2pm CT [rebroadcast Thursday, 8am]. Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County Dems Event | Blog for Iowa http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County ... http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Join us for the CCD’s larges... View on www.blogforiowa.com http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
Hillary is just another corporatist candidate. Wake up! On 05/13/2014 05:12 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hillary doesn't need young people to win. They don't vote unless it's for the Messiah. She needs independents, which is looking pretty good for her in the polls. 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination | RealClearPolitics http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html image http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination | R... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination View on www.realclearpoliti... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It
James Watt II? On 05/13/2014 06:16 PM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It Written by Alex Kuzio http://www.newslo.com/author/alex-kuzio/ /May 12th 2014/ WASHINGTON – Republican Senator Marco Rubio (FL), a prominent Christian and noted skeptic of climate change science, yesterday argued that Americans should resist efforts http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-rubio-denies-climate-change-20140511-story.html by the federal government to curb carbon dioxide emissions. Sen. Rubio, who is a likely candidate for president in 2016, said that such programs would be “against God’s Will,” since “for all we know, God /wants /the Earth to get warmer.” Speaking at a luncheon with potential donors, Rubio admitted that “it’s getting more and more difficult to deny that the Earth is getting hotter—just look at the new NASA report.” Rubio was referring to two studies released Monday http://www.businessinsider.com/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-means-2014-5 which indicate that the “melting of the Western Antarctic Ice sheet is unstoppable, and the glaciers are doomed to collapse and melt into the sea,” which will raise sea levels significantly, leaving much of the world’s coastal cities underwater. “So yeah, I don’t deny it’s happening,” Rubio said. “But what we absolutely /cannot /say for sure is that a warming Earth is not just part of God’s plan,” Rubio explained. “God knows what He’s doing, and it pleases Him to see half of Manhattan underwater and Miami wiped out completely, then we cannot stand in His way.” Rubio is a Roman Catholic, although he and his family practiced as Mormons for a time. He has said that he believes “with all [his] heart that God still destines for us an even better future and the opportunity to continue to serve as an inspiration to the world.” Today Rubio said that climate change doesn’t necessarily dash the hopes for a better future. “God destines us for a better future, and rising sea levels are a part of that, then it must be for the best,” he said. Rubio’s remarks follow those he made on Sunday, when he told “This Week” host George Stephanopoulos that he does not believe climate change is the result of human activity. “I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our climate the way these scientists are portraying it… [and] I do not believe that the laws that they propose we pass will do anything about it, except it will destroy our economy,” Rubio added. Today the senator clarified those remarks. “What I /meant /was that Jesus Himself is probably responsible for global warming,” he said. “I can’t tell you exactly /why /he’s doing it, but that’s what Faith is for—/trusting /that Jesus is warming up the planet so we can all live in water parks or something equally awesome.”
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Ranchydog could certainly attempt to give some spiritual or FFL context as to dumping these posts here. She knows the rules. This is pure spam and a lazy writer's cheap shot diluting the drink of the salon of spiritual and FFL conversation of FFL here otherwise. Enforce the unifying code of FFL guidelines Rick has given us about spamming FFL or you will let this place down entirely into the gutter for lack of any over-seeing moderating discipline. Beware the spammer and spammer beware on FFL, -Buck No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? It is called spam, without any attempt at context. Lacking attempt at context has long been a standard Rick has used against spammers. Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
What part of topics of interest did you not understand? Do you think you are the only seeker here (or finder for that matter)? On 05/13/2014 07:33 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: /NEW/ Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016
So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for him?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Buck, you're a disgrace. You inveigh against spam but you don't even know what it is. And it's hard to believe the dishonesty of referring to Alex as A ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Ranchydog could certainly attempt to give some spiritual or FFL context as to dumping these posts here. She knows the rules. This is pure spam and a lazy writer's cheap shot diluting the drink of the salon of spiritual and FFL conversation of FFL here otherwise. Enforce the unifying code of FFL guidelines Rick has given us about spamming FFL or you will let this place down entirely into the gutter for lack of any over-seeing moderating discipline. Beware the spammer and spammer beware on FFL, -Buck No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? It is called spam, without any attempt at context. Lacking attempt at context has long been a standard Rick has used against spammers. Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without you. Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Orwell 1984 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : No, you selectively copied that out of context. The guideline is: Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. -Buck A FFL Moderator writes: To refresh your memory: Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc. What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary? How would you read the meditator community on Hillary? The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary? -Buck Raunchydog writes: With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH Disgusting, unfounded speculation. http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in the next election. In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her first house. So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in her decision to run for the presidency. It is likely that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the office. http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
Buck has had too much to drink at Fairfield Life's Spiritual Saloon. Somebody take his keys. He shouldn't be driving his high horse tonight.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?
My observation is that Buck tends to be a bit giddy whenever he drives his horse, period. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote : Buck has had too much to drink at Fairfield Life's Spiritual Saloon. Somebody take his keys. He shouldn't be driving his high horse tonight.