Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus 
proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-)

That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, 
considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist 
because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on 
me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in 
which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with 
something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her 
mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. 

Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the 
determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. 
Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them 
instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-)

IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday 
when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* 
challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on 
phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions 
of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds 
determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their 
attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. 
Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative 
way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. 

And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be 
reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing 
grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or 
something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, 
and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they 
honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing 
has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. 

Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- 
clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something 
that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a 
funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the 
new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. 

Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem 
to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear 
many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much 
less replying to or debating with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every 
week they seem to have to react to almost everything I post, restarting their 
stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I 
have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright 
determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react 
even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the 
more I ignore them. 

So every so often I throw them a bone and rap about how I really see them, so 
they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate 
for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic 
stalkbots they are.  :-)  :-)  :-)



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :



FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination 
is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from 
the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by 
the previous action.

Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this 
is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new 
understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always 
defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a 
world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the 
worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :


No.  It's that you can't prove either
free will or pre-destiny.  So why bother?  Enjoy your pattern. :-D 

On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 


Have
you ever considered the possibility that those who
believe in a determinist universe are just too
dull to imagine the world they see around them any
other way?  :-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The two perspectives converge if you go far enough back in time and leave out 
quantum mechanics. 

 In fact, the billiard ball playing deity is a very common perspective for 
the Natural Philosophers where God created the universe, set up initial 
conditions, and stepped aside.
 

 

 Free Will is just a philosophical out that people created to allow for Faith 
and Sin.
 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Yes, I do know, but actually, I was responding to Bhairitu, not Barry. Really 
just a point of possible general interest for anyone following these 
discussions. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination 
is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from 
the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by 
the previous action.
 

 Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this 
is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new 
understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always 
defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a 
world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the 
worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 No.  It's that you can't prove either free will or pre-destiny.  So why 
bother?  Enjoy your pattern. :-D 
 
 On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   

 Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a 
determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around 
them any other way?  :-)
 



 
 









[FairfieldLife] No earth??

2014-05-13 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Moving through space: By Samyama on the relationship between the body and space 
(akasha) and by concentrating on the lightness of cotton, passage through space 
can be attained. While sutra 3.40 described levitation, this sutra describes 
moving through space. 
 Note the quality of opposites: A universal principle is relatively easy to see 
in this sutra. The samyama is on the relationship between the body and space. 
This results in the body having a lightness that is likened to cotton. The 
samyama allows a releasing or a cessation of the process of heaviness or earth 
element. Then, the natural lightness is experienced. It is not that a new 
quality of lightness is being attained or added on. Rather, it is a ceasing to 
be connected with the quality of earth or heaviness of body. Over and over, 
this process or practice (1.2 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.2) 
of cessation of identity (1.4 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.4) 
is repeated until the Self comes shining through (1.3 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.3). 
 Attainments and obstacles: As with the other subtle experiences this is seen 
to be both an attainment and an obstacle, and is set aside (Yoga Sutras of 
Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle experiences 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm) with non-attachment (1.15 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-11216.htm#1.15). 
 
 
 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm 
 
 Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle ex... 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Yoga Sutras: Extensive practical 
explanations of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. The Yoga Sutras succinctly 
outlines Yoga Meditation for Self-Realiz...
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
It's all just multi-personal, pantheistic solipsism, you know. 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus 
proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-)

That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, 
considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist 
because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on 
me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in 
which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with 
something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her 
mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. 

Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the 
determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. 
Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them 
instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-)

IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday 
when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* 
challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on 
phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions 
of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds 
determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their 
attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. 
Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative 
way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. 

And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be 
reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing 
grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or 
something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, 
and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they 
honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing 
has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. 

Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- 
clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something 
that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a 
funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the 
new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. 

Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem 
to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear 
many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much 
less replying to or debating with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every 
week they seem to have to react to almost everything I post, restarting their 
stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I 
have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright 
determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react 
even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the 
more I ignore them. 

So every so often I throw them a bone and rap about how I really see them, so 
they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate 
for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic 
stalkbots they are.  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
 FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination 
is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from 
the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by 
the previous action.
 

 Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this 
is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new 
understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always 
defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a 
world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the 
worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 No.  It's that you can't prove either free will or pre-destiny.  So why 
bother?  Enjoy your pattern. :-D 
 
 On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   

 Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a 
determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around 
them any other way?  :-)
 



 








 


 













[FairfieldLife] Re: No earth??

2014-05-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
So much for all the discussion of hopping like frogs found in many different 
texts with respect to mastery of the air. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote :

 Moving through space: By Samyama on the relationship between the body and 
space (akasha) and by concentrating on the lightness of cotton, passage through 
space can be attained. While sutra 3.40 described levitation, this sutra 
describes moving through space.
 Note the quality of opposites: A universal principle is relatively easy to see 
in this sutra. The samyama is on the relationship between the body and space. 
This results in the body having a lightness that is likened to cotton. The 
samyama allows a releasing or a cessation of the process of heaviness or earth 
element. Then, the natural lightness is experienced. It is not that a new 
quality of lightness is being attained or added on. Rather, it is a ceasing to 
be connected with the quality of earth or heaviness of body. Over and over, 
this process or practice (1.2 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.2) 
of cessation of identity (1.4 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.4) 
is repeated until the Self comes shining through (1.3 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.3).
 Attainments and obstacles: As with the other subtle experiences this is seen 
to be both an attainment and an obstacle, and is set aside (Yoga Sutras of 
Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle experiences 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm) with non-attachment (1.15 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-11216.htm#1.15).
 
 
 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm
 
 Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle ex... 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Yoga Sutras: Extensive practical 
explanations of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. The Yoga Sutras succinctly 
outlines Yoga Meditation for Self-Realiz...


 
 View on www.swamij.com http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 





[FairfieldLife] Re: A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread merudanda
O my dear big L  traveler in Umberto Eco`s hyperreality  sipping  from the 
horror vacui bowl at the Faith in Fake Lounge, ..
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :It's all just 
multi-personal, pantheistic solipsism, you know. L our dearest Lazarus, 
stranded all alone in the gas station of love having to use the self-service 
pumps...
Welcome to the Second Centennial Convention of the Interuniversal Society for 
Eschatological Pantheistic Multiple-Ego Solipsism at Fairy Field Light


 
Snipe -snipee snip snip snip
 



 








 


 















[FairfieldLife] Re: A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread merudanda

 Correction below

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 O my dear big L  traveler in Umberto Eco`s hyperreality -land- of- the 
-harmless-free -celebrating -the wild-sipping  from the horror vacui bowl at 
the Faith in Fake Lounge, ..with straw hat and lollipops
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote cogito 
interruptus-esque :It's all just multi-personal, pantheistic solipsism, you 
know. L our dearest Lazarus, stranded all alone in the gas station of love 
having to use the self-service pumps...
Welcome to the Second Centennial Convention of the Interuniversal Society for 
Eschatological Pantheistic Multiple-Ego Solipsism at Fairy Field Light


 
Snipe -snipee snip snip snip
 



 








 


 

















Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If I may summarize: 

 You feel that your ability to enrage and insult others, and for them to 
respond in kind, is a hallmark of your ultimate freedom as a human being, your 
ability to exert your Free Will, to demonstrate your 'control'. 
 

 Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an 
unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul, and if that is what gets you off, 
you have truly reached the bottom of your barrel. You attempt to make a 
distinction, between those who fall for your crap, and those who don't, while 
being well aware, Barry, that you cherry-pick who to insult, and how much, on 
here. 
 

 You have never had anything but roses waiting for Curtis, and a few others. I 
doubt very much if you referred to your good and close friend, Curtis, with 
some of the language you fling at others, he would not tolerate you for long.
 

 We watch you spin your hamster wheel, ecstatic over your 'free will', and your 
meanness - your ability to both take out your spiritual frustrations on others, 
and your inability to recognize such a deep flaw within yourself. As Bhairatu 
said, enjoy your pattern - the rest of us remain incredulous at your emotional 
blindness, and on-line stupidity. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus 
proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-)

That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, 
considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist 
because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on 
me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in 
which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with 
something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her 
mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. 

Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the 
determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. 
Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them 
instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-)

IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday 
when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* 
challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on 
phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions 
of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds 
determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their 
attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. 
Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative 
way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. 

And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be 
reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing 
grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or 
something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, 
and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they 
honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing 
has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. 

Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- 
clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something 
that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a 
funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the 
new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. 

Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem 
to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear 
many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much 
less replying to or debating with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every 
week they seem to have to react to almost everything I post, restarting their 
stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I 
have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright 
determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react 
even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the 
more I ignore them. 

So every so often I throw them a bone and rap about how I really see them, so 
they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate 
for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic 
stalkbots they are.  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
 FWIW, determinism and predestination 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-13 Thread merudanda
interesting point and observation
see more below
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :

 Even someone like me with genuine, diagnosed-by-a-doctor OCD, can transcend 
just fine. Obsessing about TM is Just Another Obsession and doesn't interfere 
with the practice any more than any other obsession -it's all just thinking, 
afterall, and if you can obsess, er, think, you can meditate. 

 L
 It reflect the recent  study by Radomsky which shows that it's not the 
unwanted, intrusive thoughts that are the problem -- it's what you make of 
those thoughts  People with OCD and related problems are very much like 
everyone else.Almost everyone has these kinds of thoughts. They're normal, 
and they're a part of being human,
Happen to review not long ago these article -.Still have the pdf files -Being a 
little busy but just in case  you are interested can-may send it next time 
attached
.http://www.researchgate.net/publication/260269497_Introduction_A_global_perspective_on_unwanted_intrusive_thoughts
 
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/260269497_Introduction_A_global_perspective_on_unwanted_intrusive_thoughts

The surveys were taken in different countries with different cultures and 
languages, (13 countries across six continents, including  Canada, Argentina, 
Australia, France, Greece, Hong Kong, Iran, Israel, Italy, Sierra Leone, Spain, 
Turkey and the United States)potentially making it hard to directly compare the 
responses. ( Some of the more interesting differences that emerged were 
associated with the fact that some languages/cultures do not have a simple term 
or expression for ‘intrusive’: the  IITIS questionnaire  has to be translated 
in nine languages English, Cantonese, French,Greek, Hebrew, Italian, Persian, 
Spanish, and Turkish.)
Also, the survey questions may not have turned up an accurate number of 
intrusive thoughts among the participants and the study only looks at college 
students, not older or younger people, it still provides the first empirical 
evidence that obsessions might have their origins in the normal thought 
processes that characterize the stream of consciousness.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211364914000177 
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211364914000177
here some more at the journal site
http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-obsessive-compulsive-and-related-disorders/recent-articles/
 
http://www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-obsessive-compulsive-and-related-disorders/recent-articles/

If you are interested  can send you a additional special issue on a global 
perspective on unwanted intrusive thoughts  with a commentary by Professor Jack 
Rachman who  situate the current findings within the historical context of 
intrusions and cognitive-behavioral approaches to OCD. Professor Rachman can be 
considered the “founder of intrusive thoughts”, at least in reference to OCD.
A sample quote: 
Not all uninvited thoughts are unacceptable. Some are pleasant,some amusing, 
and some can be creative. For example Mozart and Beethoven described how some 
of their musical thoughts “intruded”. Mozart's often arrived fully formed, and 
Beethoven had many that “pounded into his head.”

Reviewing was easy since the study acknowledges several caveats that could 
affect the reliability of its findings and the remaining caveats was covered  
by Professor Jack Rachman`s commentary.

BTW my dear Lazarus: Assuming that you have transcended quite often during a 
assuming long period of time.--your NS could-may be  accustomed to the silent 
aspect of your mind and you feel-consider thought as noise  and somehow painful 
and therefore intrusive and compulsive?
Happen quite often...just saying


-sniper snip
 

 












  




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/13/2014 7:31 AM, merudanda wrote:
 it's all just thinking, afterall, and if you can obsess, er, think, 
 you can meditate.
 
That's what I'm saying!

If TM is just thinking tings over, how could it harm your brain? Doesn't 
everyone think at least once a twice a day? Is anyone out there still 
saying the practice of basic TM can what, mess up your mind?

It has not been established that the mind can cause physical change at 
will - except for a few cases (maybe a hundred)  of mind-over-matter, 
that have ever been recorded. There is one case of levitation mentioned 
on alt.skeptic,  but it was discredited in about two minutes. There have 
been at least one eye-witness account of levitation posted to FFL, but 
nobody seems to want talk about. Go figure.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/13/2014 7:20 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an 
 unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul
 
This, if accurate, is quite a fall from grace. At one time Barry and 
Curtis had aspirations to be spiritual teachers. They must have believed 
all that TM stuff, the meditation and the flying, but they did a 180 at 
some point in their lives, AFTER spending what, twenty years in the 
service of the movement. What happened?

According to Curtis, he changes his mind almost every day, so he may 
have changed it back 180 again today. But, Barry is another case - he 
did his 180 as well, but then he came up against THE CORRECTOR on the 
internet - that's when he went bat-shit crazy posting to FFL. It's not 
complicated. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk 
to, I guess.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No earth??

2014-05-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/13/2014 2:22 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 So much for all the discussion of hopping like frogs found in many 
 different texts with respect to mastery of the air.
 
Levitating from a stage, with no visible means of physical support, in 
front of a large group of people, is probably the larger challenge. The 
first thing to do is light up some punk. Next, what you have to do is 
serve some tasty refreshments at the door.

Then, start the low-bass drumming real slow. When all the people are all 
seated and stoned, fill the whole room with smoke. It's complicated

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Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 If I may summarize: 

 You feel that your ability to enrage and insult others, and for them to 
respond in kind, is a hallmark of your ultimate freedom as a human being, your 
ability to exert your Free Will, to demonstrate your 'control'. 
 

 Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an 
unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul, and if that is what gets you off, 
you have truly reached the bottom of your barrel. You attempt to make a 
distinction, between those who fall for your crap, and those who don't, while 
being well aware, Barry, that you cherry-pick who to insult, and how much, on 
here. 
 

 You have never had anything but roses waiting for Curtis, and a few others. I 
doubt very much if you referred to your good and close friend, Curtis, with 
some of the language you fling at others, he would not tolerate you for long.
 

 We watch you spin your hamster wheel, ecstatic over your 'free will', and your 
meanness - your ability to both take out your spiritual frustrations on others, 
and your inability to recognize such a deep flaw within yourself. As Bhairatu 
said, enjoy your pattern - the rest of us remain incredulous at your emotional 
blindness, and on-line stupidity. 
 

 If this is an example of enlightened insight, I'll salute it. Biggest of Macs, 
Fleetest of thought it is good to have you back with your no-shit wisdom and 
down-to-earth common sense. Plus, you really have Bawee's number (even if it is 
a big 0).
 

 More comments below just because, like Judy said, fish in a barrel:
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus 
proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-)
 

 The only cue you provide is for others to whip out the air freshener after 
you've left the room.
 
That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, 
considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist 
because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on 
me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in 
which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with 
something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her 
mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. 
 

 Apparently Judy was responding to the other Barry, not Baw so you can 
scratch that theory off the list.

Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the 
determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. 
Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them 
instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-)
 

 Bawee, there is no we here. You and you alone here exist in a universe of 
your own making complete with fun house mirrors that make the ugly guy look 
more beautiful than he is (in his own eyes).

IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday 
when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* 
challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on 
phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions 
of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds 
determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their 
attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. 
Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative 
way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. 
 

 Trip away, stumble around all you want. This is nothing new. In fact, not one 
hackneyed sentence you have written above reveals anything fresh or interesting 
about you or anything else. What you consistently fail to realize is that you 
challenge no one with your articles or your thoughts. What you do, however, 
is remind me of someone I will try my damnedest to never emulate. 

And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be 
reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing 
grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or 
something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, 
and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they 
honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing 
has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. 
 

 I have no buttons Bawee. They don't exist. What exists is an innate dislike 
of ignorance and gratuitous mean-spirited people. You are both of those things. 
And until you finally fail to consistently exhibit these traits and as long as 
I happen to read something you regurgitate here that highlights those traits I 
will 

Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 If I may summarize: 

 You feel that your ability to enrage and insult others, and for them to 
respond in kind, is a hallmark of your ultimate freedom as a human being, your 
ability to exert your Free Will, to demonstrate your 'control'. 
 

 Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an 
unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul, and if that is what gets you off, 
you have truly reached the bottom of your barrel. You attempt to make a 
distinction, between those who fall for your crap, and those who don't, while 
being well aware, Barry, that you cherry-pick who to insult, and how much, on 
here. 
 

 You have never had anything but roses waiting for Curtis, and a few others. I 
doubt very much if you referred to your good and close friend, Curtis, with 
some of the language you fling at others, he would not tolerate you for long.
 

 We watch you spin your hamster wheel, ecstatic over your 'free will', and your 
meanness - your ability to both take out your spiritual frustrations on others, 
and your inability to recognize such a deep flaw within yourself. As Bhairatu 
said, enjoy your pattern - the rest of us remain incredulous at your emotional 
blindness, and on-line stupidity. 
 

 If this is an example of enlightened insight, I'll salute it. Biggest of Macs, 
Fleetest of thought it is good to have you back with your no-shit wisdom and 
down-to-earth common sense. Plus, you really have Bawee's number (even if it is 
a big 0).
 

 More comments below just because, like Judy said, fish in a barrel:
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus 
proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-)
 

 The only cue you provide is for others to whip out the air freshener after 
you've left the room.
 
That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, 
considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist 
because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on 
me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in 
which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with 
something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her 
mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. 
 

 Apparently Judy was responding to the other Barry, not Baw so you can 
scratch that theory off the list.

Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the 
determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. 
Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them 
instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-)
 

 Bawee, there is no we here. You and you alone here exist in a universe of 
your own making complete with fun house mirrors that make the ugly guy look 
more beautiful than he is (in his own eyes).

IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday 
when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* 
challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on 
phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions 
of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds 
determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their 
attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. 
Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative 
way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. 
 

 Trip away, stumble around all you want. This is nothing new. In fact, not one 
hackneyed sentence you have written above reveals anything fresh or interesting 
about you or anything else. What you consistently fail to realize is that you 
challenge no one with your articles or your thoughts. What you do, however, 
is remind me of someone I will try my damnedest to never emulate. 

And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be 
reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing 
grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or 
something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, 
and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they 
honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing 
has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. 
 

 I have no buttons Bawee. They don't exist. What exists is an innate dislike 
of ignorance and gratuitous mean-spirited people. You are both of those things. 
And until you finally fail to consistently exhibit these traits and as long as 
I happen to read something you regurgitate here that highlights those traits I 
will 

Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/12/2014 3:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a 
determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see 
around them any other way?  :-)


Asking the important questions. Apparently there are no informants on 
this list that believe in determinism as you have defined it. You are 
either free or you are bound. If you are bound, there's no need for 
yoga; if bound, by what means can we free ourselves?



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-13 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
John, me and The Byrds agree with you (-:
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On Monday, May 12, 2014 2:52 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  
Share,

To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven.

Ecclesiastes 3:1



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :


John, the older I get, the more I realize that it's such a huge universe, big 
enough for all possibilities, for throwing out all the old rules (-:

On Monday, May 12, 2014 2:32 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
Lawson,

I find your comments to be generally similar to what I'm trying to say.  My 
comments are in red letters below:



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :


You're assuming that transcending means letting go of a specific kind of 
thought, rather than thoughts i general.

Transcending refers to letting go of any thoughts.  But ultimately the 
thought of God's existence, for atheists, non-theists and agnostics, will come 
into mind while in meditation or outside of meditation.  If
they cannot transcend the thought that there is no God, then they cannot let 
go of their individual self to merge with the cosmic Self.




Thoughts are transcended during TM not because we hold onto specific thoughts 
during TM, but because we have been taught that it isn't necessary to attempt 
to control the mind during TM practice so we stop trying to control what 
happens next.

Correct.  I agree with this.


Given the correct circumstances, aka starting TM, the mind will automatically 
start to settle down.

I agree.

That is all transcending
means. 

Now, it is possible that the nervous system will settle down to the point where 
there are abrupt and obvious changes in breathing and heart rate and alpha-1 
EEG coherence which researchers believe are due to an abrupt change in activity 
in certain parts of the thalamus, but that has nothing to do with belief, but 
only with specific conditions in the thalamus triggered, at times, by 
TM-practice.

I agree.  I've made a longer comment to Xeno about the difference between the 
individual self and the cosmic or universal Self.  I saw your comments to that 
reply.  I'll address those comments next.

And the thalamus doesn't think or have beliefs, according to any theory I 
have heard. It is an important data switching center and helps regulate 
states of consciousness,
breathing, etc., but doesn't do much data-processing in any way that would be 
related to belief. Belief and not-belief are influences on TM only so much as 
they interfere with allowing the practice to go on its own.

I agree.  But the individual self, sooner or later, should merge with the 
cosmic Self.  When this is done, then cosmic consciousness can be attained.  
According to the TM practice, this could happen automatically.  But it appears 
to me that the atheists, who are TMers, are consciously resisting this natural 
process to progress.  So, it may take them longer to attain cosmic 
consciousness, or maybe they don't really care to achieve this state of 
consciousness.

Far more detrimental to TM is the internet habit of seeking out the online 
version of the Teacher Training notes available online and mentally
correlating that with what you are taught, as you are taught. This likely sets 
up extraneous connections in parts of the brain that wouldn't exist in people 
who learned TM without having first read the TT notes, and likely disrupts the 
activity that effortlessly thinking the mantra brings to bear in a localized 
way simply because there's so little prior intellectual connections established 
to bring more distant centers of the brain into play when meditation activity 
happens.

I never stated anything related to Teacher Training notes.  So, I can't address 
this point.

Innocence of practice may well have a genuine physical significance.

On the other hand, one could also argue that obsessively worrying about when 
one will encounter God during TM is far more detrimental to the practice of TM
than not worrying about God in the first place.

I agree.


I would say that a non-believer, all other things being equal, is more likely 
to transcend than a Believer.

It all depends on the individual's personality and physiology.  But, in the 
final analysis, the individual self would have to be transcended to merge with 
the cosmic Self.  If the atheist, who is a meditator, consciously resists this 
natural process by thoughts and actions, then he or she cannot cannot attain 
cosmic consciosness IMO.



L



---In
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :


Lawson,

What is wrong with the statement that I made?  Please, explain.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :


I think you're in the wrong meditation discussion forum or that you need to go 
get checked.


L








[FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel

2014-05-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Just a note for those who may be following Game Of Thrones on HBO, or 
wherever you get it. Mild spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet, but I 
just had to rap about how magnificent Peter Dinklage was in the latest episode, 
The Laws of Gods and Men. 

As some critics have already noted, this episode is pretty much a shoe-in to be 
the one that Mr. Dinklage will submit as his Emmy nomination reel when time 
comes to do so. I hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe 
award he won in 2012.

In the time since, he has risen from Supporting Role to top billed on the 
series, and with good reason. While Cersei Lannister may be the most hated 
character (although I personally lean more towards Ramsay Snow in that regard), 
Tyrion is by far the most loved. He has the most star power, and reputedly 
has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as well, in a series known for its 
incredibly handsome hunks. And he's a dwarf. 

That's a big thing to transcend, both in the plot of this epic work, and in 
real life. In this episode, standing in the dock on trial for his life, we 
watch Tyrion deal with a series of disappointments and betrayals that would 
sink a man twice his size and reduce him to helpless depression and surrender. 
Instead, he rises to the occasion, and to the full measure of his 4'5 (1.35 m) 
stature and delivers one of the great courtroom speeches ever delivered 
onscreen. 

In it, as Tyrion rails about what it's felt like to be on trial for being a 
dwarf his whole life, and the occasional anger he feels about this, we can 
*feel* Peter Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage transcended 
that trial and that anger, and now is near the top of the acting hierarchy. 
Good for him. And hopefully good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I 
haven't read the books, so what happens to him is still a mystery to me. I look 
forward to it being resolved, but hopefully not before a few more speeches like 
this one. 

[FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although 
Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I 
can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who 
don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and 
runs on air. Really. 


Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air

 
   Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air
With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as a 
gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the 
Airpod...  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes! it's so *European*! We all must have oneor even two!
On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:37 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
  
Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although 
Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I 
can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who 
don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and 
runs on air. Really. 


Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air

 
   Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air
With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as a 
gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the 
Airpod...  
View on www.core77.com Preview by Yahoo  


  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel

2014-05-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I have read all the books and surprisingly, Tyrion is one of the FEW characters 
that has longevity in the series - he cheats death any number of times.

On Tue, 5/13/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014, 2:30 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Just a note for those who may be following Game
 Of Thrones on HBO, or wherever you get it. Mild
 spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet, but I just
 had to rap about how magnificent Peter Dinklage was in the
 latest episode, The Laws of Gods and Men. 
 
 As
 some critics have already noted, this episode is pretty much
 a shoe-in to be the one that Mr. Dinklage will submit as his
 Emmy nomination reel when time comes to do so. I
 hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe
 award he won in 2012.
 
 In the time since, he has risen
 from Supporting Role to top billed
 on the series, and with good reason. While Cersei Lannister
  may be the most hated character (although I personally lean
 more towards Ramsay Snow in that regard), Tyrion is by far
 the most loved. He has the most star power, and
 reputedly has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as
 well, in a series known for its incredibly handsome hunks.
 And he's a dwarf. 
 
 That's a big thing to
 transcend, both in the plot of this epic work, and in real
 life. In this episode, standing in the dock on trial for his
 life, we watch Tyrion deal with a series of disappointments
 and betrayals that would sink a man twice his size and
 reduce him to helpless depression and surrender. Instead, he
 rises to the occasion, and to the full measure of his
 4'5 (1.35 m) stature and delivers one of the great
 courtroom speeches ever delivered onscreen. 
 
 In it, as Tyrion rails about what
 it's felt like to be on trial for being a dwarf his
 whole life, and the
  occasional anger he feels about this, we can *feel* Peter
 Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage
 transcended that trial and that anger, and now is near the
 top of the acting hierarchy. Good for him. And hopefully
 good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I haven't
 read the books, so what happens to him is still a mystery to
 me. I look forward to it being resolved, but hopefully not
 before a few more speeches like this one. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Uh-oh, Barry's having another ego-crisis. 600-plus words' worth. 

 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus 
proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-)

That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, 
considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist 
because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on 
me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in 
which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with 
something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her 
mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. 

Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the 
determinist robots on this forum have to post and decide *not* to respond. 
Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them 
instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-)

IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday 
when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* 
challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on 
phenomena that some people are attached to and consider spiritual -- visions 
of God and lucid dreaming. A few people, who obviously have their minds 
determined by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their 
attachments, felt that they had to respond by attacking me personally. 
Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative 
way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. 

And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be 
reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing 
grudges so that they can get the person who said something in a new way or 
something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, 
and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they 
honestly feel that they have to somehow try to get the person whose writing 
has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. 

Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- 
clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something 
that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a 
funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the 
new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. 

Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem 
to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear 
many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much 
less replying to or debating with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every 
week they seem to have to react to almost everything I post, restarting their 
stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I 
have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright 
determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react 
even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the 
more I ignore them. 

So every so often I throw them a bone and rap about how I really see them, so 
they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate 
for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic 
stalkbots they are.  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
 FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination 
is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from 
the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by 
the previous action.
 

 Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this 
is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new 
understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always 
defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a 
world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the 
worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 No.  It's that you can't prove either free will or pre-destiny.  So why 
bother?  Enjoy your pattern. :-D 
 
 On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   

 Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a 
determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around 
them any other way?  :-)
 



 








 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel

2014-05-13 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
 


  
I have read all the books and surprisingly, Tyrion is one of the FEW characters 
that has longevity in the series - he cheats death any number of times.


Nice to know, I guess, but please don't tell me any more. I intentionally 
didn't read the books so I could enjoy the series.



On Tue, 5/13/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014, 2:30 PM

Just a note for those who may be following Game
Of Thrones on HBO, or wherever you get it. Mild
spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet, but I just
had to rap about how magnificent Peter Dinklage was in the
latest episode, The Laws of Gods and Men. 

As
some critics have already noted, this episode is pretty much
a shoe-in to be the one that Mr. Dinklage will submit as his
Emmy nomination reel when time comes to do so. I
hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe
award he won in 2012.

In the time since, he has risen
from Supporting Role to top billed
on the series, and with good reason. While Cersei Lannister
may be the most hated character (although I personally lean
more towards Ramsay Snow in that regard), Tyrion is by far
the most loved. He has the most star power, and
reputedly has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as
well, in a series known for its incredibly handsome hunks.
And he's a dwarf. 

That's a big thing to
transcend, both in the plot of this epic work, and in real
life. In this episode, standing in the dock on trial for his
life, we watch Tyrion deal with a series of disappointments
and betrayals that would sink a man twice his size and
reduce him to helpless depression and surrender. Instead, he
rises to the occasion, and to the full measure of his
4'5 (1.35 m) stature and delivers one of the great
courtroom speeches ever delivered onscreen. 

In it, as Tyrion rails about what
it's felt like to be on trial for being a dwarf his
whole life, and the
occasional anger he feels about this, we can *feel* Peter
Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage
transcended that trial and that anger, and now is near the
top of the acting hierarchy. Good for him. And hopefully
good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I haven't
read the books, so what happens to him is still a mystery to
me. I look forward to it being resolved, but hopefully not
before a few more speeches like this one. 













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Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

 Couple comments below...
 

 

 

 That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, 
considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word determinist 
because I knew that Judy would feel she had to respond to it by ragging on 
me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in 
which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with 
something she believes in, she has to lash out and get him, at least in her 
mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. 

 

 Apparently Judy was responding to the other Barry, not Baw so you can 
scratch that theory off the list.
 

 I think he's referring here to an earlier post of mine responding to his 
one-liner, in which all I did was repeat exactly what he said but changed 
determinist to free will. Amazing that he didn't anticipate how easily that 
lame remark could be turned against him. (Not to mention that my version is 
more appropriate, given that determinists do imagine the world they see around 
them in a different way from the free will they actually experience, but free 
will advocates can't imagine anything but what they experience.)

 

 (more snip)
 

 I think what's really got him going (aside from the humiliation of his 
extraordinarily stupid comments about Nabby's and my Bible discussion) is that 
I didn't comment at all on the two articles he posted, except for asking about 
lucid dreaming being mystical or spiritual, which I'd never heard before. 
He was expecting a big reaction from me but didn't get one, and that always 
makes him furious.
 

 You no more ignore Judy and I than we ignore you. I don't take you seriously 
and I certainly don't respect you but I don't ignore you. Obviously I don't 
seek your response when I make comments about the drivel you write here. You 
don't engage in conversations you simply sermonize. You talk at people not to 
them and you run from real engagement by simply hurling insults the moment 
anyone actually tries to converse with you. In this way, and in many others, 
you are a fuck up and a failure and you run scared.

 

 Dittoes. Also amazing that he thinks folks still believe this crap, if they 
ever did.
 

 (snip)
 

 

 Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a 
determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around 
them any other way?  :-)
 



 








 


 


















Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas 
and KIAs being driven.  If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in the 
US it will get sold here.  I live in a refinery town and my guess the 
company engineers are the ones who buy these first. :-D


On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and 
although Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a 
vehicle this small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among 
city dwellers in Europe, who don't really need anything larger. 
Besides, it produces zero emissions, and runs on air. Really.


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RE: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
Seems like it wouldn't pass a crash test, unless significantly modified. No
front bumpers even. 

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:03 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

 

  

I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas and
KIAs being driven.  If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in the US it
will get sold here.  I live in a refinery town and my guess the company
engineers are the ones who buy these first. :-D 

On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com  [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  

Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although
Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this
small, I can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in
Europe, who don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero
emissions, and runs on air. Really. 

 

Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air
http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_2
3193.asp 

 



 
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3193.asp 


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as a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-13 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share, 

 I love that song too.  I'm still wondering about the details as to why they 
used the words from Ecclesiastes.  And, that song was made when the hippie 
movement was fairly strong.
 

 This quote can also apply to jyotish.  So, it covers all the affairs of people 
on this earth.


[FairfieldLife] Angels Fly

2014-05-13 Thread raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 As my seven-year anniversary of being on the IA course nears, I felt compelled 
to give an overview of my experiences in hopes that it may be of value.
  
 Using every trick in the book; every tool in the box, to squeeze every bit of 
evolutionary potential out of every moment, has yielded a rich harvest of 
varied and profound experiences.
  
 But, I needed to pierce the veil of chhandas and achieve escape velocity, 
beyond the cloudy atmosphere of collective consciousness, to reach the real, 
true, genuine and consistent experiences, that could not be denied by the most 
jaded of intellects, nor could have they been contrived out of some unconscious 
desire for self-aggrandizement.
  
 So, rather than provide a long litany of flashy ephemeral displays of 
pyrotechnics and eye-candy, I will attempt, given the limitations of language, 
to comprehensively, yet concisely convey those bench-marks and watershed 
moments, when a new, more expanded and stable state of being, was achieved.
  
 Now, please bear in mind, these occurred over time.  But, if I had to describe 
their overall pattern of development, I would say that I would be going along, 
day to day, thinking maybe that nothing was happening, but steadily putting my 
time in.  Then there would be a gathering of momentum, an increase in tempo and 
variety, to crescendo at an event horizon, a transcendental quantum leap, then 
I would find myself waking up in the realization of a new state of being and 
style of functioning.  This process repeated itself, again and again, over time.
  
 A key component discovered, which significantly changed the whole nature and 
color of my experiences, having grown up in a society where fatigue is 
considered a caffeine deficiency, and that is, my friends, rest is king.
  
 Silence penetrated, then inundated, until it permeated every particle and 
fiber of my being; bubbling, percolating and roaring with the deafening impact 
of a great waterfall disappearing into a calm, clear pool of peace that passes 
all understanding.
  
 Then, over time, within this peace, blossomed a restfully alert state of 
poise, where I spontaneously found myself, assuming the royal pace of an 
elephant, while pouncing like a tiger in all directions:  I am still as a 
mountain; flowing like a great river.
  
 Then again, over time, within this state of poise, blossomed a power, which 
passed into my experience without effort or labor.  And, I found things 
steadily coming my way, and coming my way without that awful effort that 
destroys the peace of mind of the majority of mankind.  And, I feel such deep 
ease, enfolded in the arms of infinite divine love, taking care of me.
  
 I experience myself as the center and circumference; the point and the whole.  
The sutras weaving point-to-whole, and whole-to-point, into an exquisite 
tapestry of vibrant awareness.  The sutras are multi-faceted gems, each of 
unique character and hue, dropping into the ocean of my being, reverberating 
out to whole and back again.  The returning waves crossing the outgoing waves 
forming vertices, that become planes of primordial geometry.  I do not 
experience this geometry as static, but as a stable harmonic resonance of 
divine musical vibration.  Yet this geometry also contains a dynamic flowing 
quality, with a funnel style hole, that goes completely through a sphere that 
continually flows in, around and on itself.  This archetypal geometry, with its 
dynamic flow, clusters and generates the plethora of forms and phenomena found 
manifest everywhere in my experience.  And, I really have to thank Maharishi 
for giving me a backstage pass to the universe:  a golden ticket to the 
symphony of creation behind Vishwakarman's  magic show.
  
 A shift took place in my awareness from experiencing consciousness existing 
within and a function of my physiology, to my body existing within and as my 
consciousness; as an individualized, ever changing state of wholeness, moving 
within my Self.  And I found myself able to experientially discriminate the 
successive states of my own material manifestation:  I can see, feel, hear, 
taste etc air, fire, water, earth and even the mineral densities of self. But, 
even at the greatest depth of density I experience the gold of universal soul; 
I see the brilliance of indwelling light; I feel the fire of boundless divine 
love.  Yet, this light does not blind, and this fire does not burn, but 
continually fills me with ever expanding delight.  And while I am able to 
discriminate these individual stages, it remains one stream of awareness; one 
infinite reverberation.  Then, over time, I found myself able to do the same 
with other individualized aspects of Self, be it person, place or thing.
  
 In terms of right action, I went from needing a long logical reasoning 
process, which only yielded about 50% results, essentially the probability of a 
coin toss, to the next stage where I was able to apprehend right action, but 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-13 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
'The kingdom of go is within you'
 

English is kind of ambiguous in this phrase. A more literal translation would 
be 'the kingdom of god is in of you' and the word 'you' is second person plural 
in Greek but English does not make that distinction except by context, and the 
context does not make very clear the plural 'you' in English translations. 

 A SAMPLING OF TRANSLATIONS
 

 WILLIAM TYNDALE (the first English translation, 1526)   LUKE 17:20–21
 When he was demaunded of ye pharises when the kyngdome of God shuld come: he 
answered them and sayde: The kyngdome of God cometh not with waytinge for. 
Nether shall men saye: Loo here loo there. For beholde the kyngdome of God is 
with in you.

 

 KING JAMES VERSION (1604) LUKE 17:20–21
 And when hee was demanded of the Pharises, when the kingdome of God should 
come, hee answered them, and said, The kingdome of God commeth not with 
obseruation. Neither shall they say, Loe here, or loe there: for behold, the 
kingdome of God is within you.
 

 COMPLETE JEWISH BIBLE  LUKE 17:20–21 (c) 1998 David Stern
 The P'rushim asked Yeshua when the Kingdom of God would come. The Kingdom of 
God, he answered, does not come with visible signs; nor will people be able 
to say, 'Look! Here it is!' or, 'Over there!' Because, you see, the Kingdom of 
God is among you.
 

 DOUAY-RHEIMS (1899)  LUKE 17:20–21
 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come? he 
answered them, and said: The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 
Neither shall they say: Behold here, or behold there. For lo, the kingdom of 
God is within you.
 

 NEW ENGLISH TRANSLATION (2005)  LUKE 17:20–21
 Now at one point the Pharisees asked Jesus when the kingdom of God was coming, 
so he answered, The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, 
nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'There!' For indeed, the kingdom of 
God is in your midst.
 

 GOSPEL OF THOMAS (in Coptic, English translation 1959) LOG. 3

 But the kingdom is within you and it is without you. If you know yourselves, 
then you will be know and you will know that you are the sons of the living 
father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you are 
poverty.
 

 GOSPEL OF THOMAS (in Coptic, English translation 1959) LOG. 113
 His disciples said to him when will the kingdom come? It will not come by 
expectation they will not say 'see here' or 'see there' but the kingdom of the 
father is spread upon the earth and men do not see it.
 

 Note that in none of the early manuscripts are there upper and lower case 
letters, just a single case, and there is no punctuation either. The terms 
upper and lower case come from moveable type typesetting
 

 ==
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :

 More esoteric/gnostic early Christian writings such as the Gospel of Thomas 
are far more clear in their mystical phrasing concerning the Kingdom of 
Heaven, though, of course, they aren't considered canon by any modern form of  
Christianity. 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 P.S.: The complete sentence is, The Kingdom of God is within/among/in the 
midst of you--you meaning the Pharisees. You can't leave off the you 
without seriously misrepresenting what Jesus was saying. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Actually, there's major scholarly disagreement with the translation within. 
Jesus was directly addressing the Pharisees, after all, not making a general 
statement; and he'd made it crystal clear that he thought they were corrupt 
inside and out. Just contextually, it's extremely unlikely he was saying the 
Kingdom of God was within the Pharisees. Most translations other than the KJV 
have among or in the midst of or similar, referring to the Pharisees' 
inability to recognize Jesus as the representative of God's Kingdom.
 

 Organized religions don't talk much about transcending simply because they 
lack the methods to achieve it. The Kingdom of God is within  must the most 
revolutionary concept in Christianity yet is rarely or even never discussed out 
of fear the Church would loose it's grip on the people.

 
















   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :

 More esoteric/gnostic early Christian writings such as the Gospel of Thomas 
are far more clear in their mystical phrasing concerning the Kingdom of 
Heaven, though, of course, they aren't considered canon by any modern form of  
Christianity. 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 P.S.: The complete sentence is, The Kingdom of God is within/among/in the 
midst of you--you meaning the Pharisees. You can't leave off the you 
without seriously misrepresenting what Jesus was saying. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Actually, there's major scholarly disagreement with the translation within. 
Jesus was directly addressing the Pharisees, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-13 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
'The kingdom of god is within you'

 

English is kind of ambiguous in this phrase. A more literal translation would 
be 'the kingdom of god is in of you' and the word 'you' is second person plural 
in Greek but English does not make that distinction except by context, and the 
context does not make very clear the plural 'you' in English translations. 

 A SAMPLING OF TRANSLATIONS
 

 WILLIAM TYNDALE (the first English translation, 1526)   LUKE 17:20–21
 When he was demaunded of ye pharises when the kyngdome of God shuld come: he 
answered them and sayde: The kyngdome of God cometh not with waytinge for. 
Nether shall men saye: Loo here loo there. For beholde the kyngdome of God is 
with in you.

 

 KING JAMES VERSION (1604) LUKE 17:20–21
 And when hee was demanded of the Pharises, when the kingdome of God should 
come, hee answered them, and said, The kingdome of God commeth not with 
obseruation. Neither shall they say, Loe here, or loe there: for behold, the 
kingdome of God is within you.
 

 COMPLETE JEWISH BIBLE  LUKE 17:20–21 (c) 1998 David Stern
 The P'rushim asked Yeshua when the Kingdom of God would come. The Kingdom of 
God, he answered, does not come with visible signs; nor will people be able 
to say, 'Look! Here it is!' or, 'Over there!' Because, you see, the Kingdom of 
God is among you.
 

 DOUAY-RHEIMS (1899)  LUKE 17:20–21
 And being asked by the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come? he 
answered them, and said: The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 
Neither shall they say: Behold here, or behold there. For lo, the kingdom of 
God is within you.
 

 NEW ENGLISH TRANSLATION (2005)  LUKE 17:20–21
 Now at one point the Pharisees asked Jesus when the kingdom of God was coming, 
so he answered, The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, 
nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'There!' For indeed, the kingdom of 
God is in your midst.
 

 GOSPEL OF THOMAS (in Coptic, English translation 1959) LOG. 3

 But the kingdom is within you and it is without you. If you know yourselves, 
then you will be know and you will know that you are the sons of the living 
father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you are 
poverty.
 

 GOSPEL OF THOMAS (in Coptic, English translation 1959) LOG. 113
 His disciples said to him when will the kingdom come? It will not come by 
expectation they will not say 'see here' or 'see there' but the kingdom of the 
father is spread upon the earth and men do not see it.
 

 Note that in none of the early manuscripts are there upper and lower case 
letters, just a single case, and there is no punctuation either. The terms 
upper and lower case come from moveable type typesetting
 

 ==

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :

 More esoteric/gnostic early Christian writings such as the Gospel of Thomas 
are far more clear in their mystical phrasing concerning the Kingdom of 
Heaven, though, of course, they aren't considered canon by any modern form of  
Christianity. 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 P.S.: The complete sentence is, The Kingdom of God is within/among/in the 
midst of you--you meaning the Pharisees. You can't leave off the you 
without seriously misrepresenting what Jesus was saying. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Actually, there's major scholarly disagreement with the translation within. 
Jesus was directly addressing the Pharisees, after all, not making a general 
statement; and he'd made it crystal clear that he thought they were corrupt 
inside and out. Just contextually, it's extremely unlikely he was saying the 
Kingdom of God was within the Pharisees. Most translations other than the KJV 
have among or in the midst of or similar, referring to the Pharisees' 
inability to recognize Jesus as the representative of God's Kingdom.
 

 Organized religions don't talk much about transcending simply because they 
lack the methods to achieve it. The Kingdom of God is within  must the most 
revolutionary concept in Christianity yet is rarely or even never discussed out 
of fear the Church would loose it's grip on the people.

 















  


Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I tend not to agree with Barry about free will, but then this is a subject 
whose resolution seems impossible to determine. One of my early spiritual 
experiences was about free will and determinism. My interpretation of that 
experience was that they were equivalent, like the faces on the same coin, 
differing views of the same process. I had been having experiences like this 
for about two years. I had also just learned TM a few weeks before, and it did 
not seem to be the trigger for such experiences, though it may have greased the 
wheels a bit. Experiences like this come when the mind is fully engaged with 
the world.
 

 One of the first spiritual techniques I encountered were insults. Now normally 
insults do not result in spiritual awakening or even understanding, but in a 
proper context they can. I do not think FFL, even though it nominally is about 
spirituality, is a useful context. Insults in a useful context however can 
highlight conditioned responses. Whether or not there is such a thing as free 
will, the human sense of freedom depends on how many output options we have 
available for a given input. With some people, if you say to them, 'you are a 
fucking goddamn ass hole, and your mother slept with a dog' your best option is 
probably to run for your life.
 

 So I was sitting with this group, doing guided meditations etc., before I 
learned Zen meditation, and before other techniques and before I learned TM, 
and the instructor started hurling insults. Some people got really upset, would 
stand up and say they felt really insulted and that they deserved some respect. 
They did not get any. But later on it became evident that this was a technique 
to highlight one's conditioned responses to verbal input. It was the context of 
this particular event that made the insults a piece of valuable information and 
experience, because what followed them provided the insight into what was 
really happening in our minds.
 

 The following historical story highlights a use of the technique:
 
















 The Prime Minister of the Tang Dynasty was a national hero for his success as 
both a statesman and military leader. But despite his fame, power, and wealth, 
he considered himself a humble and devout Buddhist. Often he visited his 
favourite Zen master to study under him, and they seemed to get along very 
well. The fact that he was prime minister apparently had no effect on their 
relationship, which seemed to be simply one of a revered master and respectful 
student.















 
















 One day, during his usual visit, the Prime Minister asked the master, Your 
Reverence, what is egotism according to Buddhism? The master's face turned 
red, and in a very condescending and insulting tone of voice, he shot back, 
What kind of stupid question is that!?















 
















 This unexpected response so shocked the Prime Minister that he became sullen 
and angry. The Zen master then smiled and said, THIS, Your Excellency, is 
egotism.















 

 Take a thermostat. It has basically one or two outputs to input. The 
temperature goes down, it closes a circuit and starts a heater; when the 
temperature rises, it opens the circuit and the heater stops. A slightly more 
complex system adds cooling: if the room gets too warm, it starts air 
conditioning as well. Some people do have about this many options to respond to 
input, even though the neural networks in the brain are far far more complex 
than a thermostat. Part of spiritual discipline is dealing consciously with 
one's conditioning that limits responses. Now in TM philosophy, the processes 
of de-conditioning, and the understanding of conditioning do not seem so 
overtly expressed as in some other traditions. In Zen, koans deal with various 
facets of the mind's conditioning by forcing an experience that goes beyond 
bipolar logic. On FFL, most responses to certain kinds of verbal input, what 
appears to be an insult, is simply to respond with another insult. Thus you 
have elevated your consciousness to the status of a simple thermostat.
 

 So part of the game of 'becoming free' is to widen options of response to 
inputs. We have lots of conditioned responses, some of them hard wired (the 
knee jerk reflex for example), but quite a lot are programmed into us by our 
parents and culture. Look at any government where there are parliaments with 
two more or less equal parties with opposing views, and you can predict 
responses of the two sides fairly accurately. Spiritual practises like 
meditation help to loosen the mind's grip in this respect, but some form of 
conscious highlighting the fact we have such conditioned responses really needs 
to be in operation. It is difficult to be really aware of how mechanical we are 
until 'Brahman consciousness' begins to settle in. It is only then that the 
mind becomes aware of how much its interpretation of the world of experience 
(that is, all of it) is simply a 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angels Fly

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is a fun read - the key element, to me, being the very dynamic, yet 
coherent, aspect of the whole process [of enlightenment]. Refreshing, too, to 
read the account of someone established in Being, vs. the 'experts' on here, 
with a lifetime total, of a couple weeks of witnessing under their belt. Thanks 
for sharing, Raunchy -  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote :

 

 
 As my seven-year anniversary of being on the IA course nears, I felt compelled 
to give an overview of my experiences in hopes that it may be of value.
  
 Using every trick in the book; every tool in the box, to squeeze every bit of 
evolutionary potential out of every moment, has yielded a rich harvest of 
varied and profound experiences.
  
 But, I needed to pierce the veil of chhandas and achieve escape velocity, 
beyond the cloudy atmosphere of collective consciousness, to reach the real, 
true, genuine and consistent experiences, that could not be denied by the most 
jaded of intellects, nor could have they been contrived out of some unconscious 
desire for self-aggrandizement.
  
 So, rather than provide a long litany of flashy ephemeral displays of 
pyrotechnics and eye-candy, I will attempt, given the limitations of language, 
to comprehensively, yet concisely convey those bench-marks and watershed 
moments, when a new, more expanded and stable state of being, was achieved.
  
 Now, please bear in mind, these occurred over time.  But, if I had to describe 
their overall pattern of development, I would say that I would be going along, 
day to day, thinking maybe that nothing was happening, but steadily putting my 
time in.  Then there would be a gathering of momentum, an increase in tempo and 
variety, to crescendo at an event horizon, a transcendental quantum leap, then 
I would find myself waking up in the realization of a new state of being and 
style of functioning.  This process repeated itself, again and again, over time.
  
 A key component discovered, which significantly changed the whole nature and 
color of my experiences, having grown up in a society where fatigue is 
considered a caffeine deficiency, and that is, my friends, rest is king.
  
 Silence penetrated, then inundated, until it permeated every particle and 
fiber of my being; bubbling, percolating and roaring with the deafening impact 
of a great waterfall disappearing into a calm, clear pool of peace that passes 
all understanding.
  
 Then, over time, within this peace, blossomed a restfully alert state of 
poise, where I spontaneously found myself, assuming the royal pace of an 
elephant, while pouncing like a tiger in all directions:  I am still as a 
mountain; flowing like a great river.
  
 Then again, over time, within this state of poise, blossomed a power, which 
passed into my experience without effort or labor.  And, I found things 
steadily coming my way, and coming my way without that awful effort that 
destroys the peace of mind of the majority of mankind.  And, I feel such deep 
ease, enfolded in the arms of infinite divine love, taking care of me.
  
 I experience myself as the center and circumference; the point and the whole.  
The sutras weaving point-to-whole, and whole-to-point, into an exquisite 
tapestry of vibrant awareness.  The sutras are multi-faceted gems, each of 
unique character and hue, dropping into the ocean of my being, reverberating 
out to whole and back again.  The returning waves crossing the outgoing waves 
forming vertices, that become planes of primordial geometry.  I do not 
experience this geometry as static, but as a stable harmonic resonance of 
divine musical vibration.  Yet this geometry also contains a dynamic flowing 
quality, with a funnel style hole, that goes completely through a sphere that 
continually flows in, around and on itself.  This archetypal geometry, with its 
dynamic flow, clusters and generates the plethora of forms and phenomena found 
manifest everywhere in my experience.  And, I really have to thank Maharishi 
for giving me a backstage pass to the universe:  a golden ticket to the 
symphony of creation behind Vishwakarman's  magic show.
  
 A shift took place in my awareness from experiencing consciousness existing 
within and a function of my physiology, to my body existing within and as my 
consciousness; as an individualized, ever changing state of wholeness, moving 
within my Self.  And I found myself able to experientially discriminate the 
successive states of my own material manifestation:  I can see, feel, hear, 
taste etc air, fire, water, earth and even the mineral densities of self. But, 
even at the greatest depth of density I experience the gold of universal soul; 
I see the brilliance of indwelling light; I feel the fire of boundless divine 
love.  Yet, this light does not blind, and this fire does not burn, but 
continually fills me with ever expanding delight.  And while I am able to 
discriminate these individual stages, it remains one stream of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Glad you got the smack down - See, you can behave yourself, as this post 
demonstrates, and you are back on safe ground (TV). One quarter gold star, for 
you (that's motivation, son...). 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Just a note for those who may be following Game Of Thrones on HBO, or 
wherever you get it. Mild spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet, but I 
just had to rap about how magnificent Peter Dinklage was in the latest episode, 
The Laws of Gods and Men. 

As some critics have already noted, this episode is pretty much a shoe-in to be 
the one that Mr. Dinklage will submit as his Emmy nomination reel when time 
comes to do so. I hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe 
award he won in 2012.

In the time since, he has risen from Supporting Role to top billed on the 
series, and with good reason. While Cersei Lannister may be the most hated 
character (although I personally lean more towards Ramsay Snow in that regard), 
Tyrion is by far the most loved. He has the most star power, and reputedly 
has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as well, in a series known for its 
incredibly handsome hunks. And he's a dwarf. 

That's a big thing to transcend, both in the plot of this epic work, and in 
real life. In this episode, standing in the dock on trial for his life, we 
watch Tyrion deal with a series of disappointments and betrayals that would 
sink a man twice his size and reduce him to helpless depression and surrender. 
Instead, he rises to the occasion, and to the full measure of his 4'5 (1.35 m) 
stature and delivers one of the great courtroom speeches ever delivered 
onscreen. 

In it, as Tyrion rails about what it's felt like to be on trial for being a 
dwarf his whole life, and the occasional anger he feels about this, we can 
*feel* Peter Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage transcended 
that trial and that anger, and now is near the top of the acting hierarchy. 
Good for him. And hopefully good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I 
haven't read the books, so what happens to him is still a mystery to me. I look 
forward to it being resolved, but hopefully not before a few more speeches like 
this one. 



 






RE: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, but they can advertise it as from the same car family as, and I hate to 
admit it, Jaguar (now produced by India's Tata Motors).
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 Seems like it wouldn’t pass a crash test, unless significantly modified. No 
front bumpers even. 
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:03 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India


  
  
 I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas and KIAs 
being driven.  If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in the US it will get 
sold here.  I live in a refinery town and my guess the company engineers are 
the ones who buy these first. :-D 

On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
 Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although 
Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I 
can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who 
don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and 
runs on air. Really. 

  

 Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air 
http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp
  
 
http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp
 Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air 
http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp
 
 With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as 
a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the 
Airpod...



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A fave of mine, too. Written by Pete Seeger, and made famous by the Byrds. 
Here's Pete, on God, from wikipedia:
 

 When asked about his religious or spiritual views, Seeger replied: I feel 
most spiritual when I’m out in the woods. I feel part of nature 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism. Or looking up at the stars. [I used to 
say] I was an atheist. Now I say, it’s all according to your definition of God. 
According to my definition of God, I’m not an atheist. Because I think God is 
everything. Whenever I open my eyes I’m looking at God. Whenever I’m listening 
to something I’m listening to God.
 

 ;-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Share, 

 I love that song too.  I'm still wondering about the details as to why they 
used the words from Ecclesiastes.  And, that song was made when the hippie 
movement was fairly strong.
 

 This quote can also apply to jyotish.  So, it covers all the affairs of people 
on this earth.



 
  



[FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-13 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in 
the next election. 
 

 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-13 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fleetwood, 

 Thanks for that info.  Now everybody knows a little bit more about this Byrd 
song.
 

 From what remember, Qoheleth was the author of Ecclesiastes from which this 
passage came from.  At first glance, this passage sounds more of a lament of 
life in general.  But, since it got included in the OT, there must some hidden 
meaning behind it.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel

2014-05-13 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sorry about the spoiler Turq - I wasn't thinking. I will tell you this and it 
does not reveal anything about the show - in some ways the show is superior to 
and more enjoyable than the books because one of the reasons there are so many 
books and they are so long is that Martin gives you a tremendous amount of back 
story that explains the history and motivations of the families that don't 
really have to do with the current story except to explain why this lord hates 
that lord and so on. The show ignores or cuts through what is not really 
relevant right now. I mean you will be in the middle of seeing what Jon Snow is 
doing and then you have to read page after page of history before you are 
brought back to current events.

On Tue, 5/13/14, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014, 2:52 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   I have read all the books and surprisingly, Tyrion
 is one of the FEW characters that has longevity in the
 series - he cheats death any number of times.
 
 
 
 On Tue, 5/13/14, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
 [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel
 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
  Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2014, 2:30 PM
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 

 
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 the
 
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  As
 
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 his
 
  Emmy nomination reel when time comes to do so.
 I
 
  hope it will win him an Emmy to go with the Golden Globe
 
  award he won in 2012.
 
  
 
  In the time since, he has risen
 
  from Supporting Role to top
 billed
 
  on the series, and with good reason. While Cersei
 Lannister
 
   may be the most hated character (although I personally
 lean
 
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 far
 
  the most loved. He has the most star power,
 and
 
  reputedly has the one of the biggest groupie statuses as
 
  well, in a series known for its incredibly handsome
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 real
 
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 great
 
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  In it, as Tyrion rails about what
 
  it's felt like to be on trial for being a dwarf his
 
  whole life, and the
 
   occasional anger he feels about this, we can *feel*
 Peter
 
  Dinklage's similar railing, and anger. But Dinklage
 
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 the
 
  top of the acting hierarchy. Good for him. And hopefully
 
  good for Tyrion in the coming episodes, too. I
 haven't
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread merudanda
Britishjaguar, yes now owned  by   Tata Motors since 2008 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/
The airy article says:  They enlisted the help of MDI,.. Actually The Air 
Car according to  air-pressed- google- engine- has been in development for 
twenty years already by MIDI-Motor Development International SA   a French -not 
British company (incorporated in Luxembourg) whose tech-chic atelier lies in 
Carros, a palmy industrial suburb of Nice, France. Guy and Cyril Nègre (a 
self-taught mechanic who studied philosophy and worked in French carmaker 
Renault’s advertising department in the 1960s before setting up his first 
engine-design shop.), the father-and-son team behind MDI, runs out of money so 
Tata (and other  countries) licensed  MDI's technology with the aim of 
producing and selling compressed air cars in India.. 
Pneumatic propulsion was high tech in the late 19th century, when 
compressed-air engines and equipment became commonplace in Europe and North 
America. Networks of compressed-air piping vied with then-nascent electrical 
grids to power machine tools, railway hoists, and switch-yards, among other 
heavy gear. A compressed-air propulsion system for trams was already invented 
by Louis Mékarski  and tested in Paris in 1876 and introduced to the tramways 
of Nantes in 1879.
Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system 
 
 Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system The Mekarski system was a 
compressed-air propulsion system for trams invented by Louis Mékarski or Louis 
Mékarsky (the correct spelling is uncertai...
 
 
 
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No independent testing laboratory has assessed the AirPod’s performance.  The 
two big B`s poster at FFL( who seems to work  both  secretly hard on a design 
for a Vedic Car with the MVP and M.Golden Dome compressed air producer) will 
tell you and  confirm this:
In the computer industry that’s known as vaporware, an appellation that seems 
oddly appropriate for a car that runs on air.
But my dear fleeting wood , do not cry for Jaguar and the British! According to 
this report the British are the only one who are friendly enough to give  
always a helping hand for this kind of car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
 
 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Jeremy takes the extreme sport of 
Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of 
celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help ke...
 
 
 
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Love and how you say---
have a nice day

[FairfieldLife] 5/13-Maharishi: The normality of Brahman

2014-05-13 Thread Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]
Purusha member Dave Hooper e-mails quotes from Maharishi such as this and the 
one I sent you about mothers on Sunday. If you would like to receive them, you 
can e-mail and request him to add you to his list.


MAHARISH: This sutra* teaches the normality of Brahman and warns the aspirant 
not to make any fuss about it. It is a normal, natural state. Live it is as it 
is. Finished.  (Laughter)

VERNON KATZ: I wish we had something to make a fuss about. (Laughter)

MAHARISHI: It's a normal, natural state. Live it as it is. Finished.

JEMIMA PITTMAN: Well, it sounds good enough, Maharishi, but . . .

MAHARISHI: We have only to start living it.

~Srinagar, Kashmir, India -- Summer 1969~
~Conversations with Maharishi, Volume 1 -- Edited by Dr. Vernon Katz -- 2011~

​
*In this instance, Maharishi is referring to one of the Brahma Sutras​

* * * * * * * 
1. TM Media Alert (USA):
 Creativity, Transcendental Meditation and Brain Integration -- tm-women.org 
-- Linda Egenes/ May 12, 2014

2. TM Media Alert (USA):
 Dr. Pamela Peeke: Transcendental Meditation is good science (video) -- 
Frequency.com -- May 12, 2014

​Jai Guru Dev​


-- 
David Hooper
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Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
At $10K US it would cost too much for a simple car especially if the 
trikke car (Elio) is going to sell for less than $7K.  As for crash 
tests people do ride around on motobikes and mopeds.  A few mods might 
make it pass but how much energy does it use to pump it up?  The 
reason that smart cars haven't exactly taken off is their mileage is not 
that much difference from something  like a Toyota Yaris.


On 05/13/2014 12:48 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


Yes, but they can advertise it as from the same car family as, and I 
hate to admit it, Jaguar (now produced by India's Tata Motors).




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

Seems like it wouldn’t pass a crash test, unless significantly 
modified.No front bumpers even.


*From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:03 AM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas 
and KIAs being driven.  If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in 
the US it will get sold here.  I live in a refinery town and my guess 
the company engineers are the ones who buy these first. :-D


On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... 
mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:


*/Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata
Motors, and although Americans probably won't be able to
conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I can ensure you
that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who
don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero
emissions, and runs on air. Really. /*

*/Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air

http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp/*





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http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp




Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air

http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp


With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol
a tough sell as a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit
on the perfect time to debut the Airpod...



View on *www.core77.com*

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-13 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
The dumbass Democrats need to look for someone else, someone younger who 
will appeal to younger voters. But I don't think they get it any 
better than the Republicans do.


On 05/13/2014 01:06 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as 
president in the next election.



In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in 
her first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a 
major factor in her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely 
that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing 
that she will not run for the office.



http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html






[FairfieldLife] Re: 5/13-Maharishi: The normality of Brahman

2014-05-13 Thread nablusoss1008

 You can also order Conversations with Maharishi vol. 1 from MUM, highly 
recommendable. Lot's of very interesting topics, the translation and 
commentaries to the Brahma Sutras being one of the best. Maharishi's humor and 
Vernon's constant nagging coming as a good nr 2 :-) 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

 Purusha member Dave Hooper e-mails quotes from Maharishi such as this and the 
one I sent you about mothers on Sunday. If you would like to receive them, you 
can e-mail and request him to add you to his list.



 




 




 MAHARISH: This sutra* teaches the normality of Brahman and warns the aspirant 
not to make any fuss about it. It is a normal, natural state. Live it is as it 
is. Finished.  (Laughter)



 




 VERNON KATZ: I wish we had something to make a fuss about. (Laughter)



 




 MAHARISHI: It's a normal, natural state. Live it as it is. Finished.



 




 JEMIMA PITTMAN: Well, it sounds good enough, Maharishi, but . . .



 




 MAHARISHI: We have only to start living it.



 




 ~Srinagar, Kashmir, India -- Summer 1969~
 ~Conversations with Maharishi, Volume 1 -- Edited by Dr. Vernon Katz -- 2011~



 




 ​


*In this instance, Maharishi is referring to one of the Brahma Sutras​
 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A 'Reliant Robin'! The guy up the block works on old British cars, and  I've 
seen one of those parked around here. Also a two-seater, bubble-top, right-hand 
drive, that the owner rides around in, with his dalmatian in the passenger 
seat, looking as if the dog is driving. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Britishjaguar, yes now owned  by   Tata Motors since 2008 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/
The airy article says:  They enlisted the help of MDI,.. Actually The Air 
Car according to  air-pressed- google- engine- has been in development for 
twenty years already by MIDI-Motor Development International SA   a French -not 
British company (incorporated in Luxembourg) whose tech-chic atelier lies in 
Carros, a palmy industrial suburb of Nice, France. Guy and Cyril Nègre (a 
self-taught mechanic who studied philosophy and worked in French carmaker 
Renault’s advertising department in the 1960s before setting up his first 
engine-design shop.), the father-and-son team behind MDI, runs out of money so 
Tata (and other  countries) licensed  MDI's technology with the aim of 
producing and selling compressed air cars in India.. 
Pneumatic propulsion was high tech in the late 19th century, when 
compressed-air engines and equipment became commonplace in Europe and North 
America. Networks of compressed-air piping vied with then-nascent electrical 
grids to power machine tools, railway hoists, and switch-yards, among other 
heavy gear. A compressed-air propulsion system for trams was already invented 
by Louis Mékarski  and tested in Paris in 1876 and introduced to the tramways 
of Nantes in 1879.
Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system
 
 Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system The Mekarski system was a 
compressed-air propulsion system for trams invented by Louis Mékarski or Louis 
Mékarsky (the correct spelling is uncertai...


 
 View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system
 Preview by Yahoo 
 




No independent testing laboratory has assessed the AirPod’s performance.  The 
two big B`s poster at FFL( who seems to work  both  secretly hard on a design 
for a Vedic Car with the MVP and M.Golden Dome compressed air producer) will 
tell you and  confirm this:
In the computer industry that’s known as vaporware, an appellation that seems 
oddly appropriate for a car that runs on air.
But my dear fleeting wood , do not cry for Jaguar and the British! According to 
this report the British are the only one who are friendly enough to give  
always a helping hand for this kind of car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
 
 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Jeremy takes the extreme sport of 
Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of 
celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help ke...


 
 View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is 
an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say 
anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and 
then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain 
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, 
nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says 
it all. :-) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in 
the next election. 
 

 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html





[FairfieldLife] Re: 5/13-Maharishi: The normality of Brahman

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good to know, for us brainwashed cult members - Thank you!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 You can also order Conversations with Maharishi vol. 1 from MUM, highly 
recommendable. Lot's of very interesting topics, the translation and 
commentaries to the Brahma Sutras being one of the best. Maharishi's humor and 
Vernon's constant nagging coming as a good nr 2 :-) 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote :

 Purusha member Dave Hooper e-mails quotes from Maharishi such as this and the 
one I sent you about mothers on Sunday. If you would like to receive them, you 
can e-mail and request him to add you to his list.



 




 




 MAHARISH: This sutra* teaches the normality of Brahman and warns the aspirant 
not to make any fuss about it. It is a normal, natural state. Live it is as it 
is. Finished.  (Laughter)



 




 VERNON KATZ: I wish we had something to make a fuss about. (Laughter)



 




 MAHARISHI: It's a normal, natural state. Live it as it is. Finished.



 




 JEMIMA PITTMAN: Well, it sounds good enough, Maharishi, but . . .



 




 MAHARISHI: We have only to start living it.



 




 ~Srinagar, Kashmir, India -- Summer 1969~
 ~Conversations with Maharishi, Volume 1 -- Edited by Dr. Vernon Katz -- 2011~



 




 ​


*In this instance, Maharishi is referring to one of the Brahma Sutras​
 




 * * * * * * * 



 1. TM Media Alert (USA):


 Creativity, Transcendental Meditation and Brain Integration -- tm-women.org 
http://tm-women.org/ -- Linda Egenes/ May 12, 2014
 




 2. TM Media Alert (USA):


 Dr. Pamela Peeke: Transcendental Meditation is good science (video) -- 
Frequency.com http://Frequency.com/ -- May 12, 2014
 




 ​Jai Guru Dev​



 




 




 -- 



 David Hooper



 1000 Purusha Place, Suite 219



 Romney, WV 26757




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-13 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bhairitu, 

 The Democrats better start looking for another presidential candidate now.  It 
would appear that Biden is a shoo-in for the candidacy.  But he will be running 
a weak period during the election.  So, he's vulnerable to a loss at the polls.
 

 Elizabeth Warren has a strong chart for career.  But she will be running a 
weak period as well during the election.  As such, it would be wise for her not 
to run.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 The dumbass Democrats need to look for someone else, someone younger who will 
appeal to younger voters.  But I don't think they get it any better than the 
Republicans do.
 
 On 05/13/2014 01:06 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president 
in the next election. 
 
 
 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html
 

 





[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread merudanda
Are you sure it was a dalmatian?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 A 'Reliant Robin'! The guy up the block works on old British cars, and  I've 
seen one of those parked around here. Also a two-seater, bubble-top, right-hand 
drive, that the owner rides around in, with his dalmatian in the passenger 
seat, looking as if the dog is driving. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Britishjaguar, yes now owned  by   Tata Motors since 2008 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/
The airy article says:  They enlisted the help of MDI,.. Actually The Air 
Car according to  air-pressed- google- engine- has been in development for 
twenty years already by MIDI-Motor Development International SA   a French -not 
British company (incorporated in Luxembourg) whose tech-chic atelier lies in 
Carros, a palmy industrial suburb of Nice, France. Guy and Cyril Nègre (a 
self-taught mechanic who studied philosophy and worked in French carmaker 
Renault’s advertising department in the 1960s before setting up his first 
engine-design shop.), the father-and-son team behind MDI, runs out of money so 
Tata (and other  countries) licensed  MDI's technology with the aim of 
producing and selling compressed air cars in India.. 
Pneumatic propulsion was high tech in the late 19th century, when 
compressed-air engines and equipment became commonplace in Europe and North 
America. Networks of compressed-air piping vied with then-nascent electrical 
grids to power machine tools, railway hoists, and switch-yards, among other 
heavy gear. A compressed-air propulsion system for trams was already invented 
by Louis Mékarski  and tested in Paris in 1876 and introduced to the tramways 
of Nantes in 1879.
Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system
 
 Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system The Mekarski system was a 
compressed-air propulsion system for trams invented by Louis Mékarski or Louis 
Mékarsky (the correct spelling is uncertai...


 
 View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system
 Preview by Yahoo 
 




No independent testing laboratory has assessed the AirPod’s performance.  The 
two big B`s poster at FFL( who seems to work  both  secretly hard on a design 
for a Vedic Car with the MVP and M.Golden Dome compressed air producer) will 
tell you and  confirm this:
In the computer industry that’s known as vaporware, an appellation that seems 
oddly appropriate for a car that runs on air.
But my dear fleeting wood , do not cry for Jaguar and the British! According to 
this report the British are the only one who are friendly enough to give  
always a helping hand for this kind of car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
 
 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Jeremy takes the extreme sport of 
Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of 
celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help ke...


 
 View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 



Love and how you say---
have a nice day





RE: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sometimes when traveling by car, I'd have the CB radio turned on.  It was 
always funny to hear truckers referring to little cars like these, should they 
get in an accident, as becoming a paper weight 

 Come to think of it, the CB radio is quite an enduring technology.
 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 Seems like it wouldn’t pass a crash test, unless significantly modified. No 
front bumpers even. 
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:03 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India


  
  
 I'm seeing smart cars all around town and the smaller Toyotas, Hondas and KIAs 
being driven.  If it gets crash tested so it can be sold in the US it will get 
sold here.  I live in a refinery town and my guess the company engineers are 
the ones who buy these first. :-D 

On 05/13/2014 07:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
 Go figure. This cute little beast is from India's Tata Motors, and although 
Americans probably won't be able to conceive of driving a vehicle this small, I 
can ensure you that it will be a big hit among city dwellers in Europe, who 
don't really need anything larger. Besides, it produces zero emissions, and 
runs on air. Really. 

  

 Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air 
http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp
  
 
http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp
 Airpod, the Car That Runs on Air 
http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp
 
 With gas prices rising and the massive drought making ethanol a tough sell as 
a gas alternative, India's Tata Motors has hit on the perfect time to debut the 
Airpod...



 View on www.core77.com 
http://www.core77.com/blog/transportation/airpod_the_car_that_runs_on_air_23193.asp

 Preview by Yahoo
 
  
  
  


  

 









Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-13 Thread raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hillary doesn't need young people to win. They don't vote unless it's for the 
Messiah. She needs independents, which is looking pretty good for her in the 
polls. 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination | RealClearPolitics 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

 
 
 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html
 
 
 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination | R... 
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html
 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
hmmm, perhaps a spotted corgi...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Are you sure it was a dalmatian?

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 A 'Reliant Robin'! The guy up the block works on old British cars, and  I've 
seen one of those parked around here. Also a two-seater, bubble-top, right-hand 
drive, that the owner rides around in, with his dalmatian in the passenger 
seat, looking as if the dog is driving. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Britishjaguar, yes now owned  by   Tata Motors since 2008 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/26/officially-official-tata-buys-jaguar-land-rover-for-2-3-billio/
The airy article says:  They enlisted the help of MDI,.. Actually The Air 
Car according to  air-pressed- google- engine- has been in development for 
twenty years already by MIDI-Motor Development International SA   a French -not 
British company (incorporated in Luxembourg) whose tech-chic atelier lies in 
Carros, a palmy industrial suburb of Nice, France. Guy and Cyril Nègre (a 
self-taught mechanic who studied philosophy and worked in French carmaker 
Renault’s advertising department in the 1960s before setting up his first 
engine-design shop.), the father-and-son team behind MDI, runs out of money so 
Tata (and other  countries) licensed  MDI's technology with the aim of 
producing and selling compressed air cars in India.. 
Pneumatic propulsion was high tech in the late 19th century, when 
compressed-air engines and equipment became commonplace in Europe and North 
America. Networks of compressed-air piping vied with then-nascent electrical 
grids to power machine tools, railway hoists, and switch-yards, among other 
heavy gear. A compressed-air propulsion system for trams was already invented 
by Louis Mékarski  and tested in Paris in 1876 and introduced to the tramways 
of Nantes in 1879.
Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system
 
 Mekarski system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system The Mekarski system was a 
compressed-air propulsion system for trams invented by Louis Mékarski or Louis 
Mékarsky (the correct spelling is uncertai...


 
 View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mekarski_system
 Preview by Yahoo 
 




No independent testing laboratory has assessed the AirPod’s performance.  The 
two big B`s poster at FFL( who seems to work  both  secretly hard on a design 
for a Vedic Car with the MVP and M.Golden Dome compressed air producer) will 
tell you and  confirm this:
In the computer industry that’s known as vaporware, an appellation that seems 
oddly appropriate for a car that runs on air.
But my dear fleeting wood , do not cry for Jaguar and the British! According to 
this report the British are the only one who are friendly enough to give  
always a helping hand for this kind of car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8
 
 Rolling a Reliant Robin - Top Gear - BBC 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 Jeremy takes the extreme sport of 
Reliant Robin rolling to the streets of Barnsley, aided by a string of 
celebrities who just happen to be on hand to help ke...


 
 View on www.youtube.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQh56geU0X8 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 



Love and how you say---
have a nice day







[FairfieldLife] Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It

2014-05-13 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]

Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It


   

Written by  http://www.newslo.com/author/alex-kuzio/ Alex Kuzio May 12th 2014

 

WASHINGTON – Republican Senator Marco Rubio (FL), a prominent Christian and 
noted skeptic of climate change science, yesterday argued that Americans  
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-rubio-denies-climate-change-20140511-story.html
 should resist efforts by the federal government to curb carbon dioxide 
emissions. Sen. Rubio, who is a likely candidate for president in 2016, said 
that such programs would be “against God’s Will,” since “for all we know, God 
wants the Earth to get warmer.”

Speaking at a luncheon with potential donors, Rubio admitted that “it’s getting 
more and more difficult to deny that the Earth is getting hotter—just look at 
the new NASA report.”

Rubio was referring to two studies  
http://www.businessinsider.com/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-means-2014-5 
released Monday which indicate that the “melting of the Western Antarctic Ice 
sheet is unstoppable, and the glaciers are doomed to collapse and melt into the 
sea,” which will raise sea levels significantly, leaving much of the world’s 
coastal cities underwater.

“So yeah, I don’t deny it’s happening,” Rubio said. “But what we absolutely 
cannot say for sure is that a warming Earth is not just part of God’s plan,” 
Rubio explained. “God knows what He’s doing, and it pleases Him to see half of 
Manhattan underwater and Miami wiped out completely, then we cannot stand in 
His way.”

Rubio is a Roman Catholic, although he and his family practiced as Mormons for 
a time. He has said that he believes “with all [his] heart that God still 
destines for us an even better future and the opportunity to continue to serve 
as an inspiration to the world.”

Today Rubio said that climate change doesn’t necessarily dash the hopes for a 
better future. “God destines us for a better future, and rising sea levels are 
a part of that, then it must be for the best,” he said.

Rubio’s remarks follow those he made on Sunday, when he told “This Week” host 
George Stephanopoulos that he does not believe climate change is the result of 
human activity.

“I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our 
climate the way these scientists are portraying it… [and] I do not believe that 
the laws that they propose we pass will do anything about it, except it will 
destroy our economy,” Rubio added.

Today the senator clarified those remarks. “What I meant was that Jesus Himself 
is probably responsible for global warming,” he said. “I can’t tell you exactly 
why he’s doing it, but that’s what Faith is for—trusting that Jesus is warming 
up the planet so we can all live in water parks or something equally awesome.”



[FairfieldLife] Re: Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It

2014-05-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I can't find any other newsource that quotes him saying things quite that 
extreme about God and Jesus and coimate change. 

 

 THis feels more like something The Onion might write, but you never know.
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :

 Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It


 Written by Alex Kuzio http://www.newslo.com/author/alex-kuzio/ May 12th 2014
  

 WASHINGTON – Republican Senator Marco Rubio (FL), a prominent Christian and 
noted skeptic of climate change science, yesterday argued that Americans should 
resist efforts 
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-rubio-denies-climate-change-20140511-story.html
 by the federal government to curb carbon dioxide emissions. Sen. Rubio, who is 
a likely candidate for president in 2016, said that such programs would be 
“against God’s Will,” since “for all we know, God wants the Earth to get 
warmer.”
 Speaking at a luncheon with potential donors, Rubio admitted that “it’s 
getting more and more difficult to deny that the Earth is getting hotter—just 
look at the new NASA report.”
 Rubio was referring to two studies released Monday 
http://www.businessinsider.com/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-means-2014-5 
which indicate that the “melting of the Western Antarctic Ice sheet is 
unstoppable, and the glaciers are doomed to collapse and melt into the sea,” 
which will raise sea levels significantly, leaving much of the world’s coastal 
cities underwater.
 “So yeah, I don’t deny it’s happening,” Rubio said. “But what we absolutely 
cannot say for sure is that a warming Earth is not just part of God’s plan,” 
Rubio explained. “God knows what He’s doing, and it pleases Him to see half of 
Manhattan underwater and Miami wiped out completely, then we cannot stand in 
His way.”
 Rubio is a Roman Catholic, although he and his family practiced as Mormons for 
a time. He has said that he believes “with all [his] heart that God still 
destines for us an even better future and the opportunity to continue to serve 
as an inspiration to the world.”
 Today Rubio said that climate change doesn’t necessarily dash the hopes for a 
better future. “God destines us for a better future, and rising sea levels are 
a part of that, then it must be for the best,” he said.
 Rubio’s remarks follow those he made on Sunday, when he told “This Week” host 
George Stephanopoulos that he does not believe climate change is the result of 
human activity.
 “I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic changes to our 
climate the way these scientists are portraying it… [and] I do not believe that 
the laws that they propose we pass will do anything about it, except it will 
destroy our economy,” Rubio added.
 Today the senator clarified those remarks. “What I meant was that Jesus 
Himself is probably responsible for global warming,” he said. “I can’t tell you 
exactly why he’s doing it, but that’s what Faith is for—trusting that Jesus is 
warming up the planet so we can all live in water parks or something equally 
awesome.”







[FairfieldLife] Conversations withe Maharishi: The normality of Brahman

2014-05-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Conversations with Maharishi By Dr. Vernon Katz Hardcover, 393 pages Published 
in 2011 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Speaks about Full Development of Human 
Consciousness
 The majestic panoramas of Lake Tahoe in California and the Kashmir Valley in 
the Himalayas provided the ideal settings for the conversations in this book. 
It was there in 1968 and 1969 that Maharishi began his as-yet-unpublished 
commentary on the Brahma Sutra, a key text of the timeless wisdom of Vedanta. 
The penetrating questions asked by Dr. Katz inspired deep insights from 
Maharishi on the nature and development of higher states of consciousness. 
Through Maharishi's words, the ultimate reality of life becomes meaningful and 
practical for people living today: anyone can awaken the wholeness of 
consciousness within. These conversations are suffused with bliss and serve as 
a tribute to Maharishi's legacy of knowledge for full development of the human 
heart and mind.
 Maharishi: People will enjoy this book. They will enjoy your insight. 
VK: I haven't any insight. It's your wisdom they will enjoy, and they will 
enjoy it all the more when set against my ignorance. 
Maharishi: See what insight you have!
 Dr. Vernon Katz brought such huge delight to Maharishi. His sweet and lovable 
nature was one thing-but his powerful and highly discriminating intellect and 
his repeated enquiries to Maharishi inspired Maharishi so much. Maharishi in 
conversation with Vernon brought out wave upon wave of the highest knowledge to 
satisfy Vernon's thirst to understand fully the Brahm Vidya that Maharishi was 
expounding to the world. And Maharishi loved him for it. Vernon's role has been 
a singular one in the history of Maharishi's unfoldment of Total Knowledge from 
the Vedic tradition. We are all grateful to him for what he has done for all of 
us, and for sharing his fascinating conversations with Maharishi in this book. 
- Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister Global Country of World Peace, President 
Maharishi University of Management
 In this long-awaited book, we join Dr. Vernon Katz as he sits by Maharishi's 
side, and we listen in on these exhilarating conversations about the highest 
potential of human life. We are on the scene as Maharishi brings to light the 
precious knowledge of enlightenment in its original purity and completeness. 
This book presents a clear exposition of this timeless wisdom along with the 
delight of being with Maharishi personally, in itself a treasure. - Dr. Craig 
Pearson, author, The Complete Book of Yogic Flying and The Supreme Awakening 
(in press)
 About the Author 
Vernon Katz is a trustee and a visiting professor at Maharishi University of 
Management, Fairfield, Iowa, U.S.A. He earned a first class honours degree and 
a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford University. His thesis on Indian 
philosophy was supervised by Dr. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, the eminent 
philosopher who became India's second president.
 Vernon's work with Maharishi on the Vedic literature began in 1962, when 
Maharishi invited him to assist with translation of the Bhagavad- Gita. 
Maharishi's insights into Vedic knowledge and its practical application for 
human life will be upheld and will benefit life for millennia to come. The 
conversations in this book give the reader a glimpse into a precious phase in 
the emergence of Maharishi's knowledge.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversations withe Maharishi: The normality of Brahman

2014-05-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That is true. Is a really good book in conversation where you get to hear their 
sense of humor and Maharishi's depth around all this spiritual stuff. For 
academic reasons I have been reading through the sequence of a lot of earlier 
large format publications that Maharishi produced once the Heidelberg color 
presses were purchased to look at the historical progression through them. This 
Conversations with Maharishi book, though a recent post-humus book, drops in to 
that 1960's period of Maharishi's Being with the BGita and the Brahma Sutras. 
-Buck
 

nablusoss1008 writes: Conversations with Maharishi vol. 1 from MUM, highly 
recommendable. Lot's of very interesting topics, the translation and 
commentaries to the Brahma Sutras being one of the best. Maharishi's humor and 
Vernon's constant nagging coming as a good nr 2 :-) 
 Conversations with Maharishi By Dr. Vernon Katz Hardcover, 393 pages Published 
in 2011 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Speaks about Full Development of Human 
Consciousness
 The majestic panoramas of Lake Tahoe in California and the Kashmir Valley in 
the Himalayas provided the ideal settings for the conversations in this book. 
It was there in 1968 and 1969 that Maharishi began his as-yet-unpublished 
commentary on the Brahma Sutra, a key text of the timeless wisdom of Vedanta. 
The penetrating questions asked by Dr. Katz inspired deep insights from 
Maharishi on the nature and development of higher states of consciousness. 
Through Maharishi's words, the ultimate reality of life becomes meaningful and 
practical for people living today: anyone can awaken the wholeness of 
consciousness within. These conversations are suffused with bliss and serve as 
a tribute to Maharishi's legacy of knowledge for full development of the human 
heart and mind.
 Maharishi: People will enjoy this book. They will enjoy your insight. 
VK: I haven't any insight. It's your wisdom they will enjoy, and they will 
enjoy it all the more when set against my ignorance. 
Maharishi: See what insight you have!
 Dr. Vernon Katz brought such huge delight to Maharishi. His sweet and lovable 
nature was one thing-but his powerful and highly discriminating intellect and 
his repeated enquiries to Maharishi inspired Maharishi so much. Maharishi in 
conversation with Vernon brought out wave upon wave of the highest knowledge to 
satisfy Vernon's thirst to understand fully the Brahm Vidya that Maharishi was 
expounding to the world. And Maharishi loved him for it. Vernon's role has been 
a singular one in the history of Maharishi's unfoldment of Total Knowledge from 
the Vedic tradition. We are all grateful to him for what he has done for all of 
us, and for sharing his fascinating conversations with Maharishi in this book. 
- Dr. Bevan Morris, Prime Minister Global Country of World Peace, President 
Maharishi University of Management
 In this long-awaited book, we join Dr. Vernon Katz as he sits by Maharishi's 
side, and we listen in on these exhilarating conversations about the highest 
potential of human life. We are on the scene as Maharishi brings to light the 
precious knowledge of enlightenment in its original purity and completeness. 
This book presents a clear exposition of this timeless wisdom along with the 
delight of being with Maharishi personally, in itself a treasure. - Dr. Craig 
Pearson, author, The Complete Book of Yogic Flying and The Supreme Awakening 
(in press)
 About the Author 
Vernon Katz is a trustee and a visiting professor at Maharishi University of 
Management, Fairfield, Iowa, U.S.A. He earned a first class honours degree and 
a doctorate in philosophy from Oxford University. His thesis on Indian 
philosophy was supervised by Dr. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, the eminent 
philosopher who became India's second president.
 Vernon's work with Maharishi on the Vedic literature began in 1962, when 
Maharishi invited him to assist with translation of the Bhagavad- Gita. 
Maharishi's insights into Vedic knowledge and its practical application for 
human life will be upheld and will benefit life for millennia to come. The 
conversations in this book give the reader a glimpse into a precious phase in 
the emergence of Maharishi's knowledge.
 Price: $39.00
 Item# F06
 

 

 
 Also, Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/ 
 
 http://www.mumpress.com/
 
 Maharishi University Press http://www.mumpress.com/ Maharishi University of 
Management Press offers you the latest, most comprehensive collections of 
books, videos, CD's and tapes on Maharishi's...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-13 Thread raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton 
is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have 
been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted 
and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many 
of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. 
 Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH
Disgusting, unfounded speculation. 
http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is 
an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say 
anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and 
then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain 
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, 
nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says 
it all. :-) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in 
the next election. 
 

 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html







[FairfieldLife] Bernie in Iowa

2014-05-13 Thread raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sen. Bernie Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall of 
Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats.
 

 Join us for the CCD’s largest fundraiser of the year. This is not an event to 
be missed! There will be a pre-dinner social hour with Congressman Dave 
Loebsack and Senator Jack Hatch, followed by dinner and a keynote address by 
Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders.
 

 If you cannot obtain tickets online, please contact Jean Pardee at 242-8111 or 
jmpar...@mchsi.com
 

 Bernie Sanders may also be heard on Fairfield Iowa’s community radio station,  
KRUU-FM
 

 KRUU’s Dennis Raimondi is interviewing Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders on 
Tuesday, May 13 .
 

 Speaking Freely airs Tuesdays 1pm-2pm CT [rebroadcast Thursday, 8am].
 

 
 Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County Dems Event | Blog for Iowa 
http://www.blogforiowa.com/2014/05/13/senator-bernie-sanders-to-speak-at-clinton-county-dems-event/
 
 
 
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 Senator Bernie Sanders To Speak At Clinton County ... 
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for 2014″ hosted by the Clinton County Democrats. Join us for the CCD’s 
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[FairfieldLife] Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Om, is Hillary a meditator?   Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being 
talked about elsewhere.  Just wondering what this has to do with FFL?  Or is it 
spam?  Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating 
community?  How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary?  How 
would you read the meditator community on Hillary?  The spiritual vote here, 
would it go for Hillary?   -Buck
 

 Raunchydog writes:

 With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton 
is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have 
been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted 
and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many 
of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. 
 Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH
 Disgusting, unfounded speculation. 
http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is 
an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say 
anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and 
then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain 
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, 
nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says 
it all. :-) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in 
the next election. 
 

 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html









[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-13 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 To refresh your memory:
 

 Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.
 

 What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Om, is Hillary a meditator?   Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being 
talked about elsewhere.  Just wondering what this has to do with FFL?  Or is it 
spam?  Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating 
community?  How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary?  How 
would you read the meditator community on Hillary?  The spiritual vote here, 
would it go for Hillary?   -Buck
 

 Raunchydog writes:

 With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton 
is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have 
been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted 
and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many 
of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. 
 Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH
 Disgusting, unfounded speculation. 
http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is 
an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say 
anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and 
then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain 
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, 
nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says 
it all. :-) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in 
the next election. 
 

 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html











Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-13 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Hillary is just another corporatist candidate.  Wake up!

On 05/13/2014 05:12 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Hillary doesn't need young people to win. They don't vote unless it's 
for the Messiah. She needs independents, which is looking pretty good 
for her in the polls. 2016 - 2016 Democratic Presidential Nomination | 
RealClearPolitics 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No, you selectively copied that out of context. 

 The guideline is:
 

 Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth 
and liberation everywhere.

 

 -Buck
 
A FFL Moderator writes:
 

 To refresh your memory: 

 Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.
 

 What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Om, is Hillary a meditator?   Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being 
talked about elsewhere.  Just wondering what this has to do with FFL?  Or is it 
spam?  Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating 
community?  How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary?  How 
would you read the meditator community on Hillary?  The spiritual vote here, 
would it go for Hillary?   -Buck
 

 Raunchydog writes:

 With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton 
is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have 
been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted 
and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many 
of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. 
 Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH
 Disgusting, unfounded speculation. 
http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is 
an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say 
anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and 
then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain 
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, 
nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says 
it all. :-) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in 
the next election. 
 

 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html











  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It

2014-05-13 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

James Watt II?

On 05/13/2014 06:16 PM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



  Senator Rubio: If God Wants the Climate to Change, We Must Let It

Written by Alex Kuzio http://www.newslo.com/author/alex-kuzio/ /May 
12th 2014/


WASHINGTON – Republican Senator Marco Rubio (FL), a prominent 
Christian and noted skeptic of climate change science, yesterday 
argued that Americans should resist efforts 
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-rubio-denies-climate-change-20140511-story.html by 
the federal government to curb carbon dioxide emissions. Sen. Rubio, 
who is a likely candidate for president in 2016, said that such 
programs would be “against God’s Will,” since “for all we know, God 
/wants /the Earth to get warmer.”


Speaking at a luncheon with potential donors, Rubio admitted that 
“it’s getting more and more difficult to deny that the Earth is 
getting hotter—just look at the new NASA report.”


Rubio was referring to two studies released Monday 
http://www.businessinsider.com/west-antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-means-2014-5 which 
indicate that the “melting of the Western Antarctic Ice sheet is 
unstoppable, and the glaciers are doomed to collapse and melt into the 
sea,” which will raise sea levels significantly, leaving much of the 
world’s coastal cities underwater.


“So yeah, I don’t deny it’s happening,” Rubio said. “But what we 
absolutely /cannot /say for sure is that a warming Earth is not just 
part of God’s plan,” Rubio explained. “God knows what He’s doing, and 
it pleases Him to see half of Manhattan underwater and Miami wiped out 
completely, then we cannot stand in His way.”


Rubio is a Roman Catholic, although he and his family practiced as 
Mormons for a time. He has said that he believes “with all [his] heart 
that God still destines for us an even better future and the 
opportunity to continue to serve as an inspiration to the world.”


Today Rubio said that climate change doesn’t necessarily dash the 
hopes for a better future. “God destines us for a better future, and 
rising sea levels are a part of that, then it must be for the best,” 
he said.


Rubio’s remarks follow those he made on Sunday, when he told “This 
Week” host George Stephanopoulos that he does not believe climate 
change is the result of human activity.


“I do not believe that human activity is causing these dramatic 
changes to our climate the way these scientists are portraying it… 
[and] I do not believe that the laws that they propose we pass will do 
anything about it, except it will destroy our economy,” Rubio added.


Today the senator clarified those remarks. “What I /meant /was that 
Jesus Himself is probably responsible for global warming,” he said. “I 
can’t tell you exactly /why /he’s doing it, but that’s what Faith is 
for—/trusting /that Jesus is warming up the planet so we can all live 
in water parks or something equally awesome.”







[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ranchydog could certainly attempt to give some spiritual or FFL context as to 
dumping these posts here.  She knows the rules.  This is pure spam and a lazy 
writer's cheap shot diluting the drink of the salon of spiritual and FFL 
conversation of FFL here otherwise.  Enforce the unifying code of FFL 
guidelines Rick has given us about spamming FFL or you will let this place down 
entirely into the gutter for lack of any over-seeing moderating discipline.  
Beware the spammer and spammer beware on FFL,   

 -Buck
 

 

 No, you selectively copied that out of context.
 

 The guideline is:
 

 Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth 
and liberation everywhere.

 

 -Buck
 
A FFL Moderator writes:
 

 To refresh your memory: 

 Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.
 

 What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand?  It 
is called spam, without any attempt at context.  Lacking attempt at context has 
long been a standard Rick has used against spammers. 

 Om, is Hillary a meditator?   Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being 
talked about elsewhere.  Just wondering what this has to do with FFL?  Or is it 
spam?  Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating 
community?  How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary?  How 
would you read the meditator community on Hillary?  The spiritual vote here, 
would it go for Hillary?   -Buck
 

 Raunchydog writes:

 With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton 
is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have 
been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted 
and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many 
of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. 
 Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH
 Disgusting, unfounded speculation. 
http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is 
an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say 
anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and 
then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain 
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, 
nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says 
it all. :-) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in 
the next election. 
 

 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html











  




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-13 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
What part of topics of interest did you not understand?  Do you think 
you are the only seeker here (or finder for that matter)?


On 05/13/2014 07:33 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


No, you selectively copied that out of context.


The guideline is:

Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) 
of truth and liberation everywhere.


-Buck

A FFL Moderator writes:

To refresh your memory:

Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of 
discussion about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, 
politics, economics, morality and higher states of consciousness, drug 
laws, evolution vs. creationism, enlightenment, advaita, 
reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, 
dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, kundalini, celibacy, 
sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, Buddhism, Hinduism, 
Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.


What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

Om, is Hillary a meditator?   Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and 
being talked about elsewhere.  Just wondering what this has to do with 
FFL?  Or is it spam?  Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the 
Fairfield meditating community?  How's about a question, would 
meditators vote for Hillary?  How would you read the meditator 
community on Hillary?  The spiritual vote here, would it go for Hillary?

-Buck

Raunchydog writes:
With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary 
Clinton is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive 
anti-Hillary themes have been dusted off for yet another political 
cycle; these are carefully-crafted and patently false talking points 
designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many of the themes are rooted 
in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. Latest talking 
point: /NEW/ Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH

Disgusting, unfounded speculation.

http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but 
Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, 
who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, 
personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never 
said she had brain damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and 
underhanded, but brilliant, nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for 
him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says it all. :-)



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as 
president in the next election.



In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in 
her first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a 
major factor in her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely 
that she will address this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing 
that she will not run for the office.



http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html






Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-13 Thread raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So who isn't a corporatist? Obama? Or didn't you know that when you voted for 
him? 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-13 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Buck, you're a disgrace. You inveigh against spam but you don't even know 
what it is. 

 And it's hard to believe the dishonesty of referring to Alex as A 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Ranchydog could certainly attempt to give some spiritual or FFL context as to 
dumping these posts here.  She knows the rules.  This is pure spam and a lazy 
writer's cheap shot diluting the drink of the salon of spiritual and FFL 
conversation of FFL here otherwise.  Enforce the unifying code of FFL 
guidelines Rick has given us about spamming FFL or you will let this place down 
entirely into the gutter for lack of any over-seeing moderating discipline.  
Beware the spammer and spammer beware on FFL,   

 -Buck
 

 

 No, you selectively copied that out of context.
 

 The guideline is:
 

 Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth 
and liberation everywhere.

 

 -Buck
 
A FFL Moderator writes:
 

 To refresh your memory: 

 Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.
 

 What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand?  It 
is called spam, without any attempt at context.  Lacking attempt at context has 
long been a standard Rick has used against spammers. 

 Om, is Hillary a meditator?   Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being 
talked about elsewhere.  Just wondering what this has to do with FFL?  Or is it 
spam?  Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating 
community?  How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary?  How 
would you read the meditator community on Hillary?  The spiritual vote here, 
would it go for Hillary?   -Buck
 

 Raunchydog writes:

 With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton 
is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have 
been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted 
and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many 
of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. 
 Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH
 Disgusting, unfounded speculation. 
http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is 
an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say 
anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and 
then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain 
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, 
nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says 
it all. :-) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in 
the next election. 
 

 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html











  






[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-13 Thread raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ah ha! Buck wins the battle of semantics but remains powerless to control the 
wild beasts of FFL. Don't give up, Buck. The place wouldn't be the same without 
you.  Do you know that Newspeak is the only language in the world whose 
vocabulary gets smaller every year?...It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction 
of words. Orwell 1984 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 No, you selectively copied that out of context. 

 The guideline is:
 

 Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth 
and liberation everywhere.

 

 -Buck
 
A FFL Moderator writes:
 

 To refresh your memory: 

 Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.
 

 What part of Pretty much any topic is fair game. do you not understand?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

 Om, is Hillary a meditator?   Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being 
talked about elsewhere.  Just wondering what this has to do with FFL?  Or is it 
spam?  Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating 
community?  How's about a question, would meditators vote for Hillary?  How 
would you read the meditator community on Hillary?  The spiritual vote here, 
would it go for Hillary?   -Buck
 

 Raunchydog writes:

 With 2016 speculation ramping up, the public commentary about Hillary Clinton 
is following predictable patterns. Several pervasive anti-Hillary themes have 
been dusted off for yet another political cycle; these are carefully-crafted 
and patently false talking points designed to dehumanize and demean her. Many 
of the themes are rooted in the sexism and misogyny that permeate our culture. 
 Latest talking point: NEW Anti-Hillary Theme #11: HER HEALTH
 Disgusting, unfounded speculation. 
http://peterdaou.com/2014/01/guide-to-anti-hillary-themes/#more-2616 
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpeterdaou.com%2F2014%2F01%2Fguide-to-anti-hillary-themes%2F%23more-2616h=-AQEZacpvs=1

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is 
an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say 
anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and 
then wields his innuendo, like a master, I never said she had brain 
damage Brilliant - unprincipled, scummy, and underhanded, but brilliant, 
nonetheless. The nickname GW Bush had for him, was, Turd Blossom. Kinda says 
it all. :-) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Karl Rove is questioning Hillary Clinton's health for running as president in 
the next election. 
 

 In her jyotish chart, it shows that she will be running a weak Sun in her 
first house.  So, that means that this health issue will be a major factor in 
her decision to run for the presidency.  It is likely that she will address 
this point on February 17, 2015 by announcing that she will not run for the 
office.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/rove-hillary-clinton-brain-damage-135738855.html











  





[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-13 Thread raunchy...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Buck has had too much to drink at Fairfield Life's Spiritual Saloon. Somebody 
take his keys. He shouldn't be driving his high horse tonight.
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-13 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
My observation is that Buck tends to be a bit giddy whenever he drives his 
horse, period. 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog@... wrote :

 Buck has had too much to drink at Fairfield Life's Spiritual Saloon. Somebody 
take his keys. He shouldn't be driving his high horse tonight.