[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the > > antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: > > > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, traditionally > > to be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels together: > > > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice > > is reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahmasthan or > > "sacred heart" of one's homeland. > > > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's sandals, I > would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were you, unless you > wish to end up in Kansas! * * On re-perusing my copy of the Book of Dzyan (Astral Edition), I found another half-stanza just prior to the Brahmasthan-mantra given above, which may actually throw some more light on the subject. It runs: "Brihat eva soham-bhala" (often later transliterated as "Bihat eva so-ham-bhala") Which when prepended to the previous mantra, gives us: "Brihat eva soham-bhala, Thahaar snau paleh salaikah OM!" Now, I know my place and I am (obviously) but a humble homebody, a domestic amateur and no erudite University professor, but "soham-bhala," meaning perhaps, "That am I certainly (or sun-like?)" looks like a possible primordial source for the term Sambhala: later transliterated by the Tibetans as Shambhala, and meaning the blissful place or Pure Land, a sort of heaven on earth; humanity's perfect home. Perhaps the best translation of soham-bhala would be, "That clearly am I" or "That clear light am I". This sun-like clarity also points to Shambhala as being the residence of our Soul or Sol at our Sacred Heart (Hrit-chakra; Solar Plexus) -- which is Brahma's place, the Brahmastan. Thus Shambhala = Brahmastan = our divine center, heaven on earth: that sacred-heart chakra in our divine body which lies midway between our right heart (Venus) and our spleen (Mars). In traditional astrology, that place was given to the Sun; now we know it properly to belong to the illumined Earth, Earth as it IS, as appreciated in humility's surrender into the clear light of perfection, stripped of all intellectual superimposition and belief: our paradisal home indeed!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
* * Works for me! I was just using the Indra-Brahma-Rudra model here; but I too can easily see the black holes as yonis or Mother-matter-matrices of Unconditional Love. Vishnu for me can comfortably be the Matter-Mother, Shiva the Spirit-Father, and Brahma the Sol-Soul-child of either sex. Perhaps then we as males would be more likely to see the inner golden Brahma-singularity as male awareness, the Divine Son, and the outer golden Brahma-maya-reflection as the female body of creation, the Divine Daughter... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > Yes, thanks, I was referring to the earlier post and feel I better understand > what you're trying to say. It is, I must say, somewhat convoluted, though > that's what the universe is, always folding back in on itself, intellectual > and masculine. Where's the feminine in all this? In the outer universe, I > always saw the dissolution occurring when the great central suns threw > themselves in the great central black holes, and all the different parts of > the galaxies and universes followed in their own places and ways, with all > that collapsing back into the one, true singularity, which then re-entered > the vacuum state. And I always thought of the black holes as the yonis of > the universe, i.e. the archetypal feminine aspect of the divine mother. > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:31 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > My apologies -- that should be "Shiva's centrifugal energy-HA! of > > dissolution" -- which would be an internal view of Shiva exploding or > > dissolving outward from our central-point Brahma-singularity, in what would > > externally be the white-hole of Vishnu's centripetal establishment and > > loving, coalescing support for Brahma's radiant, equatorial, rotational > > golden-ring or disc of manifest creation. And then outwardly, Shiva's > > external black-hole destruction of manifest creation, actually brings us > > down the rabbit-hole or worm-hole of our inner Vishnu's loving coalescence > > into our inner Brahmic singularity-point. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:58 AM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > > As to your infrared-ultraviolet query, it appears Kundalini will > > > > > generally throw out ALL of our old junk as she is housecleaning from > > > > > basement to attic (and back); this can feel like a personal assault > > > > > if we are attached to any of it...and we usually are :-) > > > > > > > > > Yes, I understand this but was hoping for an explication of your > > > > original reference to infrared and ultraviolet. I just tried to find > > > > it, both in my saved posts and on the FFL website, but, for some > > > > reason, couldn't. If I remember right you were associating them with > > > > two of the Vedic Gods as they fit into your model in a way I didn't > > > > understand. Could you run that by me again? Not sure why I want it, > > > > but, if you will, humor me. > > > > > > * * I believe Ravi brought up the ultra-violated joke, in response to > > > Jim's suggesting you had been X-Rayed. So I just brought up the other end > > > of the spectrum with infra-rediwhipped. > > > > > > Perhaps you are referring to an earlier post where I suggested that > > > traditionally Indra-Vishnu (or his avatar, Krishna) is Sattva, the > > > blue-shifted end of the spectrum, while Rudra is the Tamas, the > > > red-shifted end, with Brahma ruling as Rajas, the gold sphere-and-disk at > > > the middle, the visible universe. > > > > > > However, this outwardly makes Rudra the slowest-vibrating end, which > > > correlates with our exoteric conventional understanding of Tamas as being > > > the resistance of inert matter, but not really with our inward > > > understanding of genuine Tamas as being Shiva's centripetal energy-HA! of > > > dissolution. > > > > > > Again, it appears to be a matter of viewpoint -- the inner-reality's > > > Vishnu is the outer-reality's Shiva, and vice-versa. > > > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Yes, thanks, I was referring to the earlier post and feel I better understand what you're trying to say. It is, I must say, somewhat convoluted, though that's what the universe is, always folding back in on itself, intellectual and masculine. Where's the feminine in all this? In the outer universe, I always saw the dissolution occurring when the great central suns threw themselves in the great central black holes, and all the different parts of the galaxies and universes followed in their own places and ways, with all that collapsing back into the one, true singularity, which then re-entered the vacuum state. And I always thought of the black holes as the yonis of the universe, i.e. the archetypal feminine aspect of the divine mother. On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:31 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > My apologies -- that should be "Shiva's centrifugal energy-HA! of > dissolution" -- which would be an internal view of Shiva exploding or > dissolving outward from our central-point Brahma-singularity, in what would > externally be the white-hole of Vishnu's centripetal establishment and > loving, coalescing support for Brahma's radiant, equatorial, rotational > golden-ring or disc of manifest creation. And then outwardly, Shiva's > external black-hole destruction of manifest creation, actually brings us down > the rabbit-hole or worm-hole of our inner Vishnu's loving coalescence into > our inner Brahmic singularity-point. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:58 AM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > > As to your infrared-ultraviolet query, it appears Kundalini will > > > > generally throw out ALL of our old junk as she is housecleaning from > > > > basement to attic (and back); this can feel like a personal assault if > > > > we are attached to any of it...and we usually are :-) > > > > > > > Yes, I understand this but was hoping for an explication of your original > > > reference to infrared and ultraviolet. I just tried to find it, both in > > > my saved posts and on the FFL website, but, for some reason, couldn't. If > > > I remember right you were associating them with two of the Vedic Gods as > > > they fit into your model in a way I didn't understand. Could you run that > > > by me again? Not sure why I want it, but, if you will, humor me. > > > > * * I believe Ravi brought up the ultra-violated joke, in response to Jim's > > suggesting you had been X-Rayed. So I just brought up the other end of the > > spectrum with infra-rediwhipped. > > > > Perhaps you are referring to an earlier post where I suggested that > > traditionally Indra-Vishnu (or his avatar, Krishna) is Sattva, the > > blue-shifted end of the spectrum, while Rudra is the Tamas, the red-shifted > > end, with Brahma ruling as Rajas, the gold sphere-and-disk at the middle, > > the visible universe. > > > > However, this outwardly makes Rudra the slowest-vibrating end, which > > correlates with our exoteric conventional understanding of Tamas as being > > the resistance of inert matter, but not really with our inward > > understanding of genuine Tamas as being Shiva's centripetal energy-HA! of > > dissolution. > > > > Again, it appears to be a matter of viewpoint -- the inner-reality's Vishnu > > is the outer-reality's Shiva, and vice-versa. > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Thanks, R, and thanks for explicating the LLL On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:16 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > Thanks for the "all kidding aside," if, indeed, it's literal. A lot of the > > humor I find in FFL goes completely over my head and I find myself often at > > a loss in winnowing the "serious" from the mirth. Haven't much found > > mantras of any kind useful for some time. Your experience is different? > > * * Dear Mark, > > Yes, it's literal. I wouldn't worry overmuch about winnowing the "serious" > from the mirth; I don't, and I don't think our devatas or I-particles do; our > body-politic is very literal and our constituents appear to take everything > seriously mirthfully, once we give them our full attention. > > Virtually all of my "humor" is a serious attempt at self-expression and > self-reference, a resonance which eventually may tickle us. Mirth if it > arises is simply the blissful dissolution, Shiva's perfect Tamo-guna > badaBOOM! (or ah-uh-OOM!): an explosive punchline to the serious joke of > gravely loving self-recognition through the wormhole (or down the > rabbit-hole) of our torus-Hiranyagharba. (If it works, it bombs. If it bombs, > it works.) > > No, upon Awakening, mantra became essentially useless for transcending as > there was no longer anywhere to "go" to transcend, clearly we ARE or it IS > all that perfection which we had sought. (Which doesn't mean that we don't on > occasion apparently err, sometimes egregiously, and have to apologize and > make atonement; that is part of perfection too. Atonement or At-One-Ment is a > necessary ingredient of a dynamic creator-creature marriage and co-creation. > After Awakening, our "program" continues 24/7, and is a program of hands-on > Universe Management, trial and error all the way.) > > However, mantras can still be most useful for bringing various of our devatas > or I-particles and their realms to our attention, and some of them may have a > very great deal indeed to show us. > > That OM! * SHRI! * RAM! * JAI! * RAM! * JAI! * JAI! * RAM! apears to be a > signature-frequency for that realm of Rama's throne-roomand of course, > his sandals. (I didn't even consciously encounter the story of Rama's "empty" > throne and his exile until after the fact. For that matter, Maharishi himself > showed me the same drama -- of his still and always being very powerfully > "present" on his apparently-vacant seat -- back on the Science and Veda > course in 1981 and I didn't fully get it then, either.) > > (And I apologize for bringing this up yet again, but I simply couldn't let > her go out in the world without one final costume-adjustment: > > "And remember! Four out of five *transcendentals* recommend JAI JAI RAM for > their patients who *choose* RAM!" > > There. That's probably the best we're going to do with THAT. For Now.) > > *Love*Light*Laughter* always, > > R. > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
My apologies -- that should be "Shiva's centrifugal energy-HA! of dissolution" -- which would be an internal view of Shiva exploding or dissolving outward from our central-point Brahma-singularity, in what would externally be the white-hole of Vishnu's centripetal establishment and loving, coalescing support for Brahma's radiant, equatorial, rotational golden-ring or disc of manifest creation. And then outwardly, Shiva's external black-hole destruction of manifest creation, actually brings us down the rabbit-hole or worm-hole of our inner Vishnu's loving coalescence into our inner Brahmic singularity-point. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:58 AM, RoryGoff wrote: > > > As to your infrared-ultraviolet query, it appears Kundalini will > > > generally throw out ALL of our old junk as she is housecleaning from > > > basement to attic (and back); this can feel like a personal assault if we > > > are attached to any of it...and we usually are :-) > > > > > Yes, I understand this but was hoping for an explication of your original > > reference to infrared and ultraviolet. I just tried to find it, both in my > > saved posts and on the FFL website, but, for some reason, couldn't. If I > > remember right you were associating them with two of the Vedic Gods as they > > fit into your model in a way I didn't understand. Could you run that by me > > again? Not sure why I want it, but, if you will, humor me. > > * * I believe Ravi brought up the ultra-violated joke, in response to Jim's > suggesting you had been X-Rayed. So I just brought up the other end of the > spectrum with infra-rediwhipped. > > Perhaps you are referring to an earlier post where I suggested that > traditionally Indra-Vishnu (or his avatar, Krishna) is Sattva, the > blue-shifted end of the spectrum, while Rudra is the Tamas, the red-shifted > end, with Brahma ruling as Rajas, the gold sphere-and-disk at the middle, the > visible universe. > > However, this outwardly makes Rudra the slowest-vibrating end, which > correlates with our exoteric conventional understanding of Tamas as being the > resistance of inert matter, but not really with our inward understanding of > genuine Tamas as being Shiva's centripetal energy-HA! of dissolution. > > Again, it appears to be a matter of viewpoint -- the inner-reality's Vishnu > is the outer-reality's Shiva, and vice-versa. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:58 AM, RoryGoff wrote: > > As to your infrared-ultraviolet query, it appears Kundalini will generally > > throw out ALL of our old junk as she is housecleaning from basement to > > attic (and back); this can feel like a personal assault if we are attached > > to any of it...and we usually are :-) > > > Yes, I understand this but was hoping for an explication of your original > reference to infrared and ultraviolet. I just tried to find it, both in my > saved posts and on the FFL website, but, for some reason, couldn't. If I > remember right you were associating them with two of the Vedic Gods as they > fit into your model in a way I didn't understand. Could you run that by me > again? Not sure why I want it, but, if you will, humor me. * * I believe Ravi brought up the ultra-violated joke, in response to Jim's suggesting you had been X-Rayed. So I just brought up the other end of the spectrum with infra-rediwhipped. Perhaps you are referring to an earlier post where I suggested that traditionally Indra-Vishnu (or his avatar, Krishna) is Sattva, the blue-shifted end of the spectrum, while Rudra is the Tamas, the red-shifted end, with Brahma ruling as Rajas, the gold sphere-and-disk at the middle, the visible universe. However, this outwardly makes Rudra the slowest-vibrating end, which correlates with our exoteric conventional understanding of Tamas as being the resistance of inert matter, but not really with our inward understanding of genuine Tamas as being Shiva's centripetal energy-HA! of dissolution. Again, it appears to be a matter of viewpoint -- the inner-reality's Vishnu is the outer-reality's Shiva, and vice-versa.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau wrote: > > Thanks for the "all kidding aside," if, indeed, it's literal. A lot of the > humor I find in FFL goes completely over my head and I find myself often at a > loss in winnowing the "serious" from the mirth. Haven't much found mantras > of any kind useful for some time. Your experience is different? * * Dear Mark, Yes, it's literal. I wouldn't worry overmuch about winnowing the "serious" from the mirth; I don't, and I don't think our devatas or I-particles do; our body-politic is very literal and our constituents appear to take everything seriously mirthfully, once we give them our full attention. Virtually all of my "humor" is a serious attempt at self-expression and self-reference, a resonance which eventually may tickle us. Mirth if it arises is simply the blissful dissolution, Shiva's perfect Tamo-guna badaBOOM! (or ah-uh-OOM!): an explosive punchline to the serious joke of gravely loving self-recognition through the wormhole (or down the rabbit-hole) of our torus-Hiranyagharba. (If it works, it bombs. If it bombs, it works.) No, upon Awakening, mantra became essentially useless for transcending as there was no longer anywhere to "go" to transcend, clearly we ARE or it IS all that perfection which we had sought. (Which doesn't mean that we don't on occasion apparently err, sometimes egregiously, and have to apologize and make atonement; that is part of perfection too. Atonement or At-One-Ment is a necessary ingredient of a dynamic creator-creature marriage and co-creation. After Awakening, our "program" continues 24/7, and is a program of hands-on Universe Management, trial and error all the way.) However, mantras can still be most useful for bringing various of our devatas or I-particles and their realms to our attention, and some of them may have a very great deal indeed to show us. That OM! * SHRI! * RAM! * JAI! * RAM! * JAI! * JAI! * RAM! apears to be a signature-frequency for that realm of Rama's throne-roomand of course, his sandals. (I didn't even consciously encounter the story of Rama's "empty" throne and his exile until after the fact. For that matter, Maharishi himself showed me the same drama -- of his still and always being very powerfully "present" on his apparently-vacant seat -- back on the Science and Veda course in 1981 and I didn't fully get it then, either.) (And I apologize for bringing this up yet again, but I simply couldn't let her go out in the world without one final costume-adjustment: "And remember! Four out of five *transcendentals* recommend JAI JAI RAM for their patients who *choose* RAM!" There. That's probably the best we're going to do with THAT. For Now.) *Love*Light*Laughter* always, R.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:58 AM, RoryGoff wrote: > As to your infrared-ultraviolet query, it appears Kundalini will generally > throw out ALL of our old junk as she is housecleaning from basement to attic > (and back); this can feel like a personal assault if we are attached to any > of it...and we usually are :-) > Yes, I understand this but was hoping for an explication of your original reference to infrared and ultraviolet. I just tried to find it, both in my saved posts and on the FFL website, but, for some reason, couldn't. If I remember right you were associating them with two of the Vedic Gods as they fit into your model in a way I didn't understand. Could you run that by me again? Not sure why I want it, but, if you will, humor me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Thanks for the "all kidding aside," if, indeed, it's literal. A lot of the humor I find in FFL goes completely over my head and I find myself often at a loss in winnowing the "serious" from the mirth. Haven't much found mantras of any kind useful for some time. Your experience is different? On Aug 2, 2011, at 8:58 AM, RoryGoff wrote: > (Reposting, now with new and improved mantra! And remember! Four out of five > transcendentists recommend JAI JAI RAM for their patients who chant RAM!) > > > On 08/01/2011 02:48 PM, emptybill wrote: > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > * * Forgot to mention -- even Hollywood made (four) exposes on the > dangers of "om" alone... > > All kidding aside -- Mark, in my travels to other realms I once came upon > Rama's empty throne (presumably with His sandals on it, though I didn't think > to look), utterly surrounded by a multitude of devotees chanting OM SHRI RAM > JAI RAM JAI JAI RAM with a devotion almost more intense than I could > withstand. First time I ever heard the phrase; having tasted its source I can > recommend it highly, if it appeals to you. > > As to your infrared-ultraviolet query, it appears Kundalini will generally > throw out ALL of our old junk as she is housecleaning from basement to attic > (and back); this can feel like a personal assault if we are attached to any > of it...and we usually are :-) > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
I wish Maui, but my guess would be India, maybe Allahabad. If I decide to retire there, I'll definitely give it a shot. On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:52 PM, RoryGoff wrote: > * * Yes, I suppose it's worth a shot, though I suppose if it actually worked > some bigots might make fun of one for being a little light in the loafers, or > at least a friend of Dorothy. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I say give it a shot - how can you resist such a thing? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > > > > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the > > > > antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: > > > > > > > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > > > > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > > > > > > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, > > > > traditionally to be used only while standing erect and pressing the > > > > heels together: > > > > > > > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > > > > > > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but > > > > thrice is reputed to experience passage through space to the > > > > Brahamasthan or "sacred heart" of one's homeland. > > > > > > > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's > > > sandals, I would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were > > > you, unless you wish to end up in Kansas! > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
(Reposting, now with new and improved mantra! And remember! Four out of five transcendentists recommend JAI JAI RAM for their patients who chant RAM!) > On 08/01/2011 02:48 PM, emptybill wrote: > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > * * Forgot to mention -- even Hollywood made (four) exposes on the dangers of "om" alone... All kidding aside -- Mark, in my travels to other realms I once came upon Rama's empty throne (presumably with His sandals on it, though I didn't think to look), utterly surrounded by a multitude of devotees chanting OM SHRI RAM JAI RAM JAI JAI RAM with a devotion almost more intense than I could withstand. First time I ever heard the phrase; having tasted its source I can recommend it highly, if it appeals to you. As to your infrared-ultraviolet query, it appears Kundalini will generally throw out ALL of our old junk as she is housecleaning from basement to attic (and back); this can feel like a personal assault if we are attached to any of it...and we usually are :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > * * Forgot to mention -- even Hollywood made (four) exposes on the dangers of "om" alone... All kidding aside -- Mark, in my travels to other realms I once came upon Rama's empty throne (presumably with His sandals on it, though I didn't think to look), utterly surrounded by a multitude of devotees chanting OM SHRI RAM JAI JAI RAM with a devotion almost more intense than I could withstand. First time I ever heard the phrase; having tasted its source I can recommend it highly, if it appeals to you. As to your infrared-ultraviolet query, it appears Kundalini will generally throw out ALL of our old junk as she is housecleaning from basement to attic (and back); this can feel like a personal assault if we are attached to any of it...and we usually are :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
* * Yes, I suppose it's worth a shot, though I suppose if it actually worked some bigots might make fun of one for being a little light in the loafers, or at least a friend of Dorothy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > I say give it a shot - how can you resist such a thing? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > > > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > > > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the > > > antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: > > > > > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > > > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > > > > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, > > > traditionally to be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels > > > together: > > > > > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > > > > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice > > > is reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or > > > "sacred heart" of one's homeland. > > > > > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's sandals, > > I would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were you, unless > > you wish to end up in Kansas! > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Free airfare! Too bad Dorothy didn't come from Maui! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the > > antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: > > > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, traditionally > > to be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels together: > > > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice > > is reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or > > "sacred heart" of one's homeland. > > > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's sandals, I > would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were you, unless you > wish to end up in Kansas! >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
I say give it a shot - how can you resist such a thing? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the > > antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: > > > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, traditionally > > to be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels together: > > > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice > > is reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or > > "sacred heart" of one's homeland. > > > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's sandals, I > would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were you, unless you > wish to end up in Kansas! >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised > transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the antiquated > final "a" of "thahara", thus: > "OM Iswara thahaar tis, > OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. > > Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, traditionally to > be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels together: > > "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; > Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" > > When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice is > reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or "sacred > heart" of one's homeland. > * * But Mark, though you are indeed in possession of the Master's sandals, I would *not* try them on with this mantra at home, if I were you, unless you wish to end up in Kansas!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardwillytexwilliams" wrote: > > RoryGoff: > > I was once given the mantra > > "OM Iswara thahara tis,"... > > > Mariska Hargitay! > * * Ha! In the interests of clarity, I should probably have used the revised transliteration, lengthening the penultimate "a" and dropping the antiquated final "a" of "thahara", thus: "OM Iswara thahaar tis, OM Iswara thahaar tis," etc. Here is a similar but lesser-known mantra I once ran across, traditionally to be used only while standing erect and pressing the heels together: "Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM; Thahaar snau pale salaikah OM!" When wearing holy sandals of Mastery, one reciting this mantra but thrice is reputed to experience passage through space to the Brahamasthan or "sacred heart" of one's homeland.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
> > "OM Iswara thahara tis" > > emptybill: > This sounds Indonesian... > Pak Subud.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
RoryGoff: > I was once given the mantra > "OM Iswara thahara tis,"... > Mariska Hargitay!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
unless you are a Brahmin, thats absolute not Maharishi's teaching. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" wrote: > > not for women or householders > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > > > ����������������������������� > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > reading... > > > > Just what I heard... > > > > > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > > using > > > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
not for women or householders --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > ����������������������������� > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > reading... > > > Just what I heard... > > > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > using > > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > (Alex, if you count each of my punning posts as two, I seriously > > will only be able to post 25 a week! I ask you homey, where is > > the heart in THAT?) > > Heart? I'm sitting here in my SS uniform, butching it up, and throwing my > weight around on FFL. I have no use for all that mushy heart stuff. If I > don't become a burly, hee-man, master of the universe, my life has no value > at all, and it's just too damn bad if your posting gets cut in half as a > result of my quest for what's *truly* important. > * * Alex, you Schatzi Nazi! In one fellacious swoop you confirm TP's most brutal reflection -- er, projection...err, *insight* -- yeah, that's the ticket! -- *and* manage to cut my flaming bullshit in half (an a posteriori image for posterity). TP will be so gratified and shatisfied, his labor reduced by half! You big bully, you, you're worse than Lincoln. Your tyrannical aggression may leave me no choice but to take all my slaves -- why they're like family you know, they can't take care of themselves, and besides I guarantee we'll be phasing out slavery soon, sometime in the next century or two, about the same time we stop using illegal immigrant labor -- and go home. Nothing sucks seeds like secession! You can't squash the butternut! Don't tread on the copperhead! Et cetera ad nauseam!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Om by itself is useful to pacify vata (probably why it is added in the first place. By itself it would be an adjunct mantra that you would only use when vata is deranged though you can also use Ram for the same purpose. On 08/01/2011 02:48 PM, emptybill wrote: > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > … > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > everything you had, to lose your wealth... >>> So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > reading... >>> Just what I heard... >> Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > using >> mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. >> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
"OM Iswara thahara tis" This sounds Indonesian. I thought they were all Muslims. Except for the East Timors where they are Christians. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > Right. I was once given the mantra "OM Iswara thahara tis," and it works beautifully for me as a householder. (I find it really hits home if you sound it out in your heart a number of times quickly.) > > (Alex, if you count each of my punning posts as two, I seriously will only be able to post 25 a week! I ask you homey, where is the heart in THAT?) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote: > > > > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > reading... > > > > Just what I heard... > > > > > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > > using > > > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > (Alex, if you count each of my punning posts as two, I seriously > will only be able to post 25 a week! I ask you homey, where is > the heart in THAT?) Heart? I'm sitting here in my SS uniform, butching it up, and throwing my weight around on FFL. I have no use for all that mushy heart stuff. If I don't become a burly, hee-man, master of the universe, my life has no value at all, and it's just too damn bad if your posting gets cut in half as a result of my quest for what's *truly* important.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Right. I was once given the mantra "OM Iswara thahara tis," and it works beautifully for me as a householder. (I find it really hits home if you sound it out in your heart a number of times quickly.) (Alex, if you count each of my punning posts as two, I seriously will only be able to post 25 a week! I ask you homey, where is the heart in THAT?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. > > > > A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to > use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. > > > > When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" > as part of the phoneme set. > > > > BTW, it works just fine. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) > was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > reading... > > > Just what I heard... > > > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers > using > > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
MMY advised against using "om" alone as a single mantra. A former MIU Sankkya-Yoga scholar pointed out to me that it was safe to use if combined as part of a larger mantra string of phonemes. When I received a meditation mantra from SSRS it included "om" as part of the phoneme set. BTW, it works just fine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the reading... > > Just what I heard... > > Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers using > mantras without Omkara. Go Figure. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was > > > > not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose > > > > everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, > > > > that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > > > reading... > > > > Just what I heard... > > > > > > MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for > > > the householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on > > > the passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their > > > chanting with OMmmm... > > > > > > > FWIW: > > > > As I've told before, 'om' is a rather common word in Swedish > > (preposition: about,etc. / adverb: again / conjunction: if). > > "Despite that", Sweden seems to be amongst the wealthiest countries > > in the whole world, eh? > > > > Furthermore, there are words like 'kom' (came), som (as, etc.) > > dom (colloquial 'them'), and stuff... :o > > > > Om hon sku veta, som dom... (If she knew [sku veta!] as do those...) > > > > You need to get some Platonic smarts Card! > > It's the reference of the word, not the word itself > that counts. 'Om' (pa Svenska) is the same "token' as 'om' in > New Age English, but these linguistic tokens refer to quite > distinct abstract entities. > > Just as, for example, the Swedish linguistic token "baksida" > refers (I think) to "rear" in English (as in the rear of a > building, and not to your backside, your 'arse'). > > Or 'fart' - which most amusingly for little minds such > as mine is (I think) in Swedish 'Jazz' (or speed, velocity, > pace, start, go, going, force, energy, push, impetus, verve, > clip, swing, snap, pep, zing, zip, ginger, trade). > > Or "Naturen" - which in Swedish refers to the Platonic entity > 'countryside', and not "The Nature". > > No? > You're absolutely right! Actually, in Finnish the form 'om' might, in some contexts, be even more frequent than in Swedish, because, before labial consonants (m, p), the third person singular present tense form of the verb 'to be' or 'to have', 'on', often changes in colloquial speech to 'om', through sandhi, in this case partial regressive assimilation. For example On minulla soma... ([There] is "for" me a cute... > I have a cute...) ...might in colloquial speech appear as Om mulla soma...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote: > > Seems to be a never ending discussion... Indeed ! This is what Maharishi wrote about " OM", take it or leave it. "Om" is the Mantra for the Sanyasi. The Sanyasi repeats "Om" "Om" > "Om". It is given to him at the time of 'Sanyas - Diksha', at the time > when he has completely renounced attachment to the world. Renunciation > and detachment increase with the repetition of 'Om'. 'Om' is chanted > aloud by a Sanyasi to put on end to his desires. Desires are destroyed > by loudly chanting the mantra 'Om'. And if there is any desire deeply > rooted in the mind of a Sanyasi, the chanting of 'Om' will result in the > destruction of the object of such desire in order to make the Sanyasi, > wholly desireless. The Sanyasi thus attains Peace through the > renunciation and destruction of desires, whereas the peace comes to the > householder when his needs are satisfied, when his desires are > fulfilled. The mantras for the householders have the effect of > fulfilling the desires. > > > > If unfortunately, the householder begins to repeat the pranava Mantra > viz. 'Om', 'Om' 'Om' he experiences destructive effects in his material > life. The effect starts with monetary loss and then goes on to destroy > objects of affection, one by one. Such a man, when he finds loss of > money and separation from the dear ones, he is reduced to utter > peacelessness and frustration. Where is the chance of spiritual > development or experience of Peace and happiness for such a dejected > soul? The path of peacelessness and misery in the world, cannot lead to > Eternal happiness. If the man is proceeding towards Eternal happiness > every day he should feel the increase of peace and happiness, and this > alone will assure him that he is proceeding towards abiding peace and > eternal happiness. If you walk towards the light you should be able to > feel the increase of light at every step. If you are spending some time > in devotion to God, you should feel peace and happiness in life. If you > are not feeling peace and happiness you should be wise enough to doubt > the correctness of your devotion, you should be wise enough to think > that your method of devotion is wrong, that the Mantras that you are > repeating do not suit you. The mantras that suit the Sanyasis can never > suit the householders. Hundreds of God-loving and God-fearing families, > have been ruined due to the destructive effects of Sanyasa Mantra viz. > "Om". "Om" destroys desires and also destroys the objects of desires and > therefore it produces calmness of mind and renunciation and detachment > from material life only to Sanyasis when they repeat Om; to them it > brings the experience of peace of mind and from this experience they > generally recommend the chanting of 'Om' to their followers. But when a > householder repeats 'Om', he experiences that as long as he is repeating > 'Om' he feels peace of mind, but when he comes out to indulge in > business or household work, he finds he finds that the air is against > his desire and schemes. The silencing effect on the mind and destructive > effects in material life, both are lived side by side. Some people say > that we should ignore material life in regard to the devotional > practices and Mantras. But this is a fool's ideology. Can you possibly > ignore the considerations of material life, when the Mantras do affect > it? > > (BEacon Light) > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
Seems to be a never ending discussion... thanks "wgm4u" for the reminder [:">] and MMY continues in accordance with Guru Dev's teaching : Do not live in a fool's paradise. "Select a path which will make you happier in your material life also. Do not live in a fool's paradise. Do not think that your sufferings end miseries of today will work as reservations in the galleries of heaven for tomorrow. Be peaceful and happy in the present and try to make this state permanent. This is the path of Deliverance in Life Jeevan-Mukti, the most exalted state in human existence, the state of abiding Peace and Eternal Bliss. And this you are entitled to have through correct and suitable Sadhana. And because the Mantras play an important role in the field of Sadhana, you must be very very careful in the selection of the Mantra. The theory of Mantras is the theory of sound. It is most scientific and natural. Ladies should never repeat any Mantra beginning with Om. The pronunciation of Om is like fire to the ladies. This is the practical experience of many devoted ladies who repeated 'Om Namah Shivaya' or 'Om Namonarayanaya' or 'Om Namo Bhagwate Vasudevaya' or any such mantra beginning with Om. It cannot be God's wish that you should suffer in your devotion to him. Do not cling to the unhelpful Mantras. The moment you find you have got into the wrong train, it is wise to get down from it as soon as possible. It is foolish to stick on to the wrong train and go wherever it takes you. I hold that the devotees of the Almighty God should not suffer at all. 'That is the fundamental condition of the path to Eternal Bliss. I hold that bliss or happiness should increase at every step till we get into the realm of eternal happiness. I hold that the devotees of the god should enjoy peace and happiness at every stage, because he is the fountain head of all peace and happiness. It cannot be that our march towards the light should at any stage increase the darkness before us. The march towards the Anant Anandam must give the experience of increase of Anandam at every step and in every walk of life. The devotee of the Almighty cannot suffer. If he is found to suffer, he cannot be said to be a devotee of God. lt pains me when I find people suffering in the name of God and devotion. I offer an open invitation to such aspirants and seekers of God. I invite them to come out of their miserable devotion, and step into the peaceful blissful chambers of Sadhana, blessed and illumined by the divine radiance of Shri Guru Deva. I invite them to put an end to their sufferings and peacelessness and crown their day to day life with success peace and joy. Do not waste time and life. Life is to enjoy. So come on to the field of all joy. The gates of all glories of life are open for you. "Make hay when the sun shines". Avail the opportunity in hand and enjoy life to the fullest." see http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/Beacon.htm and Guru Dev's (Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati) similiar view/advise but let's ask Preacher [:D] Buck [:x] BTW another story is the experience of "Shunyaakaasha"and this beautiful transcendental combination of A-kaara, U-kaara, and Ma-kaara IMHO(E) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you had, to lose your wealth... > > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the reading... > > > > Just what I heard... > > > > > > MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for the householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on the passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their chanting with OMmmm... > > > > > > Did you meet a wealthy Pundit, ever ? > > > "Om" is the Mantra for the Sanyasi. The Sanyasi repeats "Om" "Om" "Om". It is given to him at the time of 'Sanyas - Diksha', at the time when he has completely renounced attachment to the world. Renunciation and detachment increase with the repetition of 'Om'. 'Om' is chanted aloud by a Sanyasi to put on end to his desires. Desires are destroyed by loudly chanting the mantra 'Om'. And if there is any desire deeply rooted in the mind of a Sanyasi, the chanting of 'Om' will result in the destruction of the object of such desire in order to make the Sanyasi, wholly desireless. The Sanyasi thus attains Peace through the renunciation and destruction of desires, whereas the peace comes to the householder when his needs are satisfied, when his desires are fulfilled. The mantras for the householders have the effect of fulfillin
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not > > > to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything > > > you had, to lose your wealth... > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that > > > contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > > reading... > > > Just what I heard... > > > > MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for the > > householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on the > > passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their > > chanting with OMmmm... > > > > FWIW: > > As I've told before, 'om' is a rather common word in Swedish > (preposition: about,etc. / adverb: again / conjunction: if). > "Despite that", Sweden seems to be amongst the wealthiest countries > in the whole world, eh? > > Furthermore, there are words like 'kom' (came), som (as, etc.) > dom (colloquial 'them'), and stuff... :o > > Om hon sku veta, som dom... (If she knew [sku veta!] as do those...) > You need to get some Platonic smarts Card! It's the reference of the word, not the word itself that counts. 'Om' (pa Svenska) is the same "token' as 'om' in New Age English, but these linguistic tokens refer to quite distinct abstract entities. Just as, for example, the Swedish linguistic token "baksida" refers (I think) to "rear" in English (as in the rear of a building, and not to your backside, your 'arse'). Or 'fart' - which most amusingly for little minds such as mine is (I think) in Swedish 'Jazz' (or speed, velocity, pace, start, go, going, force, energy, push, impetus, verve, clip, swing, snap, pep, zing, zip, ginger, trade). Or "Naturen" - which in Swedish refers to the Platonic entity 'countryside', and not "The Nature". No?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > Om hon sku veta, som dom... (If she knew [sku veta!] as do those...) > Attempt at an "improved" version: Om hon skulle veta om dom, som talar om honom om och om igen... If she would know about them, who speak about him[sic!] again and again...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
On 07/31/2011 08:15 PM, Robert wrote: > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not > > to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you > > had, to lose your wealth... > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that > contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the reading... > Just what I heard... Plenty of Indian millionaires using Omkara. Plenty of broke TMers using mantras without Omkara. Go Figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not > > > to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything > > > you had, to lose your wealth... > > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that > > > contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > > reading... > > > Just what I heard... > > > > MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for the > > householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on the > > passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their > > chanting with OMmmm... > > > Did you meet a wealthy Pundit, ever ? "Om" is the Mantra for the Sanyasi. The Sanyasi repeats "Om" "Om" "Om". It is given to him at the time of 'Sanyas - Diksha', at the time when he has completely renounced attachment to the world. Renunciation and detachment increase with the repetition of 'Om'. 'Om' is chanted aloud by a Sanyasi to put on end to his desires. Desires are destroyed by loudly chanting the mantra 'Om'. And if there is any desire deeply rooted in the mind of a Sanyasi, the chanting of 'Om' will result in the destruction of the object of such desire in order to make the Sanyasi, wholly desireless. The Sanyasi thus attains Peace through the renunciation and destruction of desires, whereas the peace comes to the householder when his needs are satisfied, when his desires are fulfilled. The mantras for the householders have the effect of fulfilling the desires. If unfortunately, the householder begins to repeat the pranava Mantra viz. 'Om', 'Om' 'Om' he experiences destructive effects in his material life. The effect starts with monetary loss and then goes on to destroy objects of affection, one by one. Such a man, when he finds loss of money and separation from the dear ones, he is reduced to utter peacelessness and frustration. Where is the chance of spiritual development or experience of Peace and happiness for such a dejected soul? The path of peacelessness and misery in the world, cannot lead to Eternal happiness. If the man is proceeding towards Eternal happiness every day he should feel the increase of peace and happiness, and this alone will assure him that he is proceeding towards abiding peace and eternal happiness. If you walk towards the light you should be able to feel the increase of light at every step. If you are spending some time in devotion to God, you should feel peace and happiness in life. If you are not feeling peace and happiness you should be wise enough to doubt the correctness of your devotion, you should be wise enough to think that your method of devotion is wrong, that the Mantras that you are repeating do not suit you. The mantras that suit the Sanyasis can never suit the householders. Hundreds of God-loving and God-fearing families, have been ruined due to the destructive effects of Sanyasa Mantra viz. "Om". "Om" destroys desires and also destroys the objects of desires and therefore it produces calmness of mind and renunciation and detachment from material life only to Sanyasis when they repeat Om; to them it brings the experience of peace of mind and from this experience they generally recommend the chanting of 'Om' to their followers. But when a householder repeats 'Om', he experiences that as long as he is repeating 'Om' he feels peace of mind, but when he comes out to indulge in business or household work, he finds he finds that the air is against his desire and schemes. The silencing effect on the mind and destructive effects in material life, both are lived side by side. Some people say that we should ignore material life in regard to the devotional practices and Mantras. But this is a fool's ideology. Can you possibly ignore the considerations of material life, when the Mantras do affect it? (BEacon Light)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not > > to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you > > had, to lose your wealth... > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that > > contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > reading... > > Just what I heard... > > MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for the > householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on the > passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their chanting > with OMmmm... Did you meet a wealthy Pundit, ever ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not > > to be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you > > had, to lose your wealth... > > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that > > contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the > > reading... > > Just what I heard... > > MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for the > householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on the > passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their chanting > with OMmmm... > FWIW: As I've told before, 'om' is a rather common word in Swedish (preposition: about,etc. / adverb: again / conjunction: if). "Despite that", Sweden seems to be amongst the wealthiest countries in the whole world, eh? Furthermore, there are words like 'kom' (came), som (as, etc.) dom (colloquial 'them'), and stuff... :o Om hon sku veta, som dom... (If she knew [sku veta!] as do those...)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not to > be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you had, > to lose your wealth... > So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that > contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the reading... > Just what I heard... MMY believed OM was a recluse Mantra only and did not recommend it for the householder. I believe he blamed the poor of condition of India on the passive inducing OM mantra, although the pundits always start their chanting with OMmmm...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > FWIW, the first sound of Rgveda is 'a' (*short* a-sound): > > agnim iiLe purohitaM, > yajñasya devam RtvijaM > hotaaraM ratnadhaatamam. > > The first line contains the following vowels: > > a, i, ii (long i-sound), e, u, o , i, a. > > Please, look at the devanaagarii alphabet here, > especially 'VOWELS - FULL FORM': > > http://sanskrit.farfromreal.com/index.php?x=writ_alpha > > If we ignore the long vowels, most of them are included > in the first line: > > a, i, u, e (sandhi of a + i), o (sandhi of a + u) > > Those not included are: > > R (vocalic r-sound), L (vocalic l-sound, quite rare) > and diphthongs 'ai' (diachronically aa + i, methinks) > and 'au' (aa + u). > The vocalic R-sound on the second line (R-tvi-jam), and *long* a-sound (aa or A or a: or a_ or any other of the numerous ways to indicate the length of Sanskrit vowels in ASCII) on the third! The L in iiLe is *not* the vocalic/syllabic L-sound...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
FWIW, the first sound of Rgveda is 'a' (*short* a-sound): agnim iiLe purohitaM, yajñasya devam RtvijaM hotaaraM ratnadhaatamam. The first line contains the following vowels: a, i, ii (long i-sound), e, u, o , i, a. Please, look at the devanaagarii alphabet here, especially 'VOWELS - FULL FORM': http://sanskrit.farfromreal.com/index.php?x=writ_alpha If we ignore the long vowels, most of them are included in the first line: a, i, u, e (sandhi of a + i), o (sandhi of a + u) Those not included are: R (vocalic r-sound), L (vocalic l-sound, quite rare) and diphthongs 'ai' (diachronically aa + i, methinks) and 'au' (aa + u).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
>
>
> "Try to chant in a soft voice." -Karunamayi
>
> >
> > "Amma has advised us to chant "Om" before and after meditation because this
> > helps to "fence" and hold the energy that is created during meditation. It
> > is like putting walls up on both side of a river. When the river grows due
> > to heavy rainfall, its waters will be contained and channeled instead of
> > spreading across the land and leaking away."
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG.
> > > > > > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout
> > > > > > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from
> > > > > > > "Aum"):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM).
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi
> > > > > stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't
> > > > > mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using
> > > > > Aaaum," what did you mean?
> > > >
> > > > I know we're getting older Judy, but did you put on your glasses? The
> > > > post heading is "and started usning Aaa", not Aum, MMY dropped the
> > > > um, Si? MMY doesn't use Aum at all anymore that I know of..
> > > >
> > >
> > > That's *not* an English spelling thing.
> > >
> > > Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon:
> > >
> > > 1 aum ind. the sacred syllable of the shuudras (see 3. %{au}).
> > >
> > > So 'au' in 'aum' rhymes with 'how', and 'o' in 'om' (approximately)
> > > with 'oo' in 'door'. (Being originally the combination aka sandhi of 'a'
> > > and 'u', 'o' is always pronounced long in [classical] Sanskrit).
> > >
> >
>
>From what I heard, M told the Mother Divine course, that Om (Aum) was not to
>be used as a mantra, as it's use would cause you to lose everything you had,
>to lose your wealth...
So, in any reading of the Vedic Literature which Mother Divine used, that
contained the sound Om (Aum) would be avoided, or taken out of the reading...
Just what I heard...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
"Before and after meditation chant the holy sound "Om" nine times. Please
close your eyes at this point and keep them closed until meditation is
completed."
>
>
> "Try to chant in a soft voice." -Karunamayi
>
> >
> > "Amma has advised us to chant "Om" before and after meditation because this
> > helps to "fence" and hold the energy that is created during meditation. It
> > is like putting walls up on both side of a river. When the river grows due
> > to heavy rainfall, its waters will be contained and channeled instead of
> > spreading across the land and leaking away."
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG.
> > > > > > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout
> > > > > > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from
> > > > > > > "Aum"):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM).
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi
> > > > > stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't
> > > > > mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using
> > > > > Aaaum," what did you mean?
> > > >
> > > > I know we're getting older Judy, but did you put on your glasses? The
> > > > post heading is "and started usning Aaa", not Aum, MMY dropped the
> > > > um, Si? MMY doesn't use Aum at all anymore that I know of..
> > > >
> > >
> > > That's *not* an English spelling thing.
> > >
> > > Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon:
> > >
> > > 1 aum ind. the sacred syllable of the shuudras (see 3. %{au}).
> > >
> > > So 'au' in 'aum' rhymes with 'how', and 'o' in 'om' (approximately)
> > > with 'oo' in 'door'. (Being originally the combination aka sandhi of 'a'
> > > and 'u', 'o' is always pronounced long in [classical] Sanskrit).
> > >
> >
>
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
"Try to chant in a soft voice." -Karunamayi
>
> "Amma has advised us to chant "Om" before and after meditation because this
> helps to "fence" and hold the energy that is created during meditation. It
> is like putting walls up on both side of a river. When the river grows due
> to heavy rainfall, its waters will be contained and channeled instead of
> spreading across the land and leaking away."
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG.
> > > > > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout
> > > > > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from
> > > > > > "Aum"):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum
> > > > >
> > > > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM).
> > > >
> > > > I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi
> > > > stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't
> > > > mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using
> > > > Aaaum," what did you mean?
> > >
> > > I know we're getting older Judy, but did you put on your glasses? The
> > > post heading is "and started usning Aaa", not Aum, MMY dropped the
> > > um, Si? MMY doesn't use Aum at all anymore that I know of..
> > >
> >
> > That's *not* an English spelling thing.
> >
> > Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon:
> >
> > 1 aum ind. the sacred syllable of the shuudras (see 3. %{au}).
> >
> > So 'au' in 'aum' rhymes with 'how', and 'o' in 'om' (approximately)
> > with 'oo' in 'door'. (Being originally the combination aka sandhi of 'a'
> > and 'u', 'o' is always pronounced long in [classical] Sanskrit).
> >
>
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
The Oracle Speaketh! Is this a corallary to M's the Abathya Abetya?, (someone help me here, "the unmanifest sutra") "Amma has advised us to chant "Om" before and after meditation because this helps to "fence" and hold the energy that is created during meditation. It is like putting walls up on both side of a river. When the river grows due to heavy rainfall, its waters will be contained and channeled instead of spreading across the land and leaking away."
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
"Amma has advised us to chant "Om" before and after meditation because this
helps to "fence" and hold the energy that is created during meditation. It is
like putting walls up on both side of a river. When the river grows due to
heavy rainfall, its waters will be contained and channeled instead of spreading
across the land and leaking away."
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > >
> > > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG.
> > > > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout
> > > > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from
> > > > > "Aum"):
> > > > >
> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum
> > > >
> > > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM).
> > >
> > > I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi
> > > stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't
> > > mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using
> > > Aaaum," what did you mean?
> >
> > I know we're getting older Judy, but did you put on your glasses? The post
> > heading is "and started usning Aaa", not Aum, MMY dropped the um, Si?
> > MMY doesn't use Aum at all anymore that I know of..
> >
>
> That's *not* an English spelling thing.
>
> Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon:
>
> 1 aum ind. the sacred syllable of the shuudras (see 3. %{au}).
>
> So 'au' in 'aum' rhymes with 'how', and 'o' in 'om' (approximately)
> with 'oo' in 'door'. (Being originally the combination aka sandhi of 'a' and
> 'u', 'o' is always pronounced long in [classical] Sanskrit).
>
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > But as I say, I haven't spoken to him recently. You might > try asking him about it, but he's a little hard to get > hold of these days. I spoke to him last night and he ask me to tell you to stop the smart aleck comments or he was going to freeze your mantra! (It takes 1000 lifetimes to unfreeze one, so you wouldn't want that to happen now would you!)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess OM is too Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM...
> > > >
> > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG.
> > > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout
> > > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from
> > > > "Aum"):
> > > >
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum
> > >
> > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM).
> >
> > I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi
> > stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't
> > mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using
> > Aaaum," what did you mean?
>
> I know we're getting older Judy, but did you put on your glasses? The post
> heading is "and started usning Aaa", not Aum, MMY dropped the um, Si? MMY
> doesn't use Aum at all anymore that I know of..
>
That's *not* an English spelling thing.
Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon:
1 aum ind. the sacred syllable of the shuudras (see 3. %{au}).
So 'au' in 'aum' rhymes with 'how', and 'o' in 'om' (approximately)
with 'oo' in 'door'. (Being originally the combination aka sandhi of 'a' and
'u', 'o' is always pronounced long in [classical] Sanskrit).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess OM is too Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM... > > > > > > > > > > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG. > > > > > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout > > > > > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from > > > > > > "Aum"): > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum > > > > > > > > > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM). > > > > > > > > I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi > > > > stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't > > > > mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using > > > > Aaaum," what did you mean? > > > > > > I know we're getting older Judy, but did you put on your > > > glasses? The post heading is "and started usning Aaa", not > > > Aum, MMY dropped the um, Si? MMY doesn't use Aum at all > > > anymore that I know of.. > > > > Since the first line of your post was, "I guess OM is too > > Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM..." I assumed > > the subject heading had gotten chopped off at the end, as > > often happens here. > > Ok, got it. > > > As to whether MMY is still using Aum, I don't know, I > > haven't spoken with him lately. > > If you've been listening to the MMY channel he often uses > Aaaa to refer to the first syllable of the Ved, he used to > refer to this as OM, I believe. Probably not. The Aaa of the first syllable of the Rig Veda is the A in Aum, as I understand it, the sound of creation (Brahma). The U in Aum is the sound of maintenance (Vishnu) and the M is dissolution (Shiva). I.e., Aaa is the beginning and Aum is the whole ball of wax. But as I say, I haven't spoken to him recently. You might try asking him about it, but he's a little hard to get hold of these days. > MMY in 1964, "From that eternal silence a hum starts and > this hum is called OM", could this be what MMY now calls > A? What's wrong with OM?, ooh, too controversial? > (smacks of Hinduism)? Right, MMY has been especially avoiding any hint of Hinduism in recent years. > Perhaps MMY is now trying to excise the word OM or AUM > from the Vedic vernacular of the NEW age of Maharishi VEd? Possibly. Maybe Robin is correct and he had to agree to drop all that Vedic stuff before St. Peter would let him in the gates to see the Lord. (Only I don't think any Vedic pundit worth his salt would stand for it). > > FWIW, you don't have to respond. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess OM is too Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM... > > > > > > > > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG. > > > > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout > > > > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from > > > > > "Aum"): > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum > > > > > > > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM). > > > > > > I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi > > > stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't > > > mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using > > > Aaaum," what did you mean? > > > > I know we're getting older Judy, but did you put on your > > glasses? The post heading is "and started usning Aaa", not > > Aum, MMY dropped the um, Si? MMY doesn't use Aum at all > > anymore that I know of.. > > Since the first line of your post was, "I guess OM is too > Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM..." I assumed > the subject heading had gotten chopped off at the end, as > often happens here. Ok, got it. > As to whether MMY is still using Aum, I don't know, I > haven't spoken with him lately. If you've been listening to the MMY channel he often uses Aaaa to refer to the first syllable of the Ved, he used to refer to this as OM, I believe. MMY in 1964, "From that eternal silence a hum starts and this hum is called OM", could this be what MMY now calls A? What's wrong with OM?, ooh, too controversial? (smacks of Hinduism)? Perhaps MMY is now trying to excise the word OM or AUM from the Vedic vernacular of the NEW age of Maharishi VEd? (Only I don't think any Vedic pundit worth his salt would stand for it). FWIW, you don't have to respond.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I guess OM is too Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM... > > > > > > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG. > > > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout > > > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from > > > > "Aum"): > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum > > > > > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM). > > > > I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi > > stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't > > mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using > > Aaaum," what did you mean? > > I know we're getting older Judy, but did you put on your > glasses? The post heading is "and started usning Aaa", not > Aum, MMY dropped the um, Si? MMY doesn't use Aum at all > anymore that I know of.. Since the first line of your post was, "I guess OM is too Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM..." I assumed the subject heading had gotten chopped off at the end, as often happens here. As to whether MMY is still using Aum, I don't know, I haven't spoken with him lately. And I have no idea now what the hell you were talking about anyway. What does "started using Aaa" mean?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > > > I guess OM is too Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM... > > > > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG. > > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout > > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from > > > "Aum"): > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum > > > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM). > > I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi > stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't > mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using > Aaaum," what did you mean? I know we're getting older Judy, but did you put on your glasses? The post heading is "and started usning Aaa", not Aum, MMY dropped the um, Si? MMY doesn't use Aum at all anymore that I know of..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > > > I guess OM is too Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM... > > > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG. > > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout > > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from > > "Aum"): > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum > > And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM). I guess I was misled by your subject heading, "Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaum." If you didn't mean that he'd, you know, stopped using OM and started using Aaaum," what did you mean?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > > > I guess OM is too Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM... > > "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG. > The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout > (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from > "Aum"): > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum And your point is? (MMY doesn't use the term AUM or OM).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi stopped using OM and started using Aaaa.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u" wrote: > > I guess OM is too Hindu, and therefore Religious? AaUM... "Aum" is an alternate spelling in our alphabet, BillyG. The Wikipedia article uses the "Aum" spelling throughout (the article is titled "Om," but it's a redirect from "Aum"): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum
