Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I am sorry, but the removal of TM from the mysticism and traditions of the 
past, is a GOOD thing. I agree that having more knowledgeable teachers would be 
helpful, though to say that the goals of humanity cannot be achieved solely 
with TM is completely false, an ego trip that has evolved from TM's simplicity. 
Some people are just never happy. :-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well Pundit Bill, you're an expert on the Vedas so you should know.  You 
should also then know that TM is just "a meditation for the masses."  For that 
shanti mantras are generally given.  And as you know Maharishi originally just 
gave a shanti mantra.  Also in real systems instead of parrots you train people 
to be actual meditation teachers who give the mantra along with shaktipat.  
However Maharishi did not have the credentials to make those kind of teachers.
 
 On 09/26/2015 10:06 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   Bari2 opines:
 
 And TM really is "yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned 
elsewhere.
 
 So exactly what is "that" which is the "Sun" to TM's "mere" shadow?
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Well Pundit Bill, you're an expert on the Vedas so you should know.  You 
should also then know that TM is just "a meditation for the masses."  
For that shanti mantras are generally given.  And as you know Maharishi 
originally just gave a shanti mantra.  Also in real systems instead of 
parrots you train people to be actual meditation teachers who give the 
mantra along with shaktipat.  However Maharishi did not have the 
credentials to make those kind of teachers.


On 09/26/2015 10:06 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Bari2 opines:

And TM really is "yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned 
elsewhere.


So exactly what is "that" which is the "Sun" to TM's "mere" shadow?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Bari2 opines:

And TM really is "yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned elsewhere.

So exactly what is "that" which is the "Sun" to TM's "mere" shadow?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hi, Thanks for sharing your ideas. I am not really a big reader, nor do I have 
any association with the TM organization, so I am not the one to evaluate your 
writing further, or make a proposition to the TMers. That said, I wish you all 
the best with your pursuits. No doubt you have learned a great deal about 
yourself while writing the book. 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for your replys, apparantely it's just between you and I. Yes I am just 
throwing it out for people to chew on; I see more people are referring toTM as 
a step to enlightenment. It takes time; generations, I believe, for a concept 
to take hold. Maybe quicker with TM.
 

 I do appreciate your allowing me to chat a bit on the blog. I was hopeful 
other people would read the book and comment a bit, but thats not hapenning. I 
have another proposal for you ...I was planning to go with some advertising 
campaign on some of the social platforms. Spend a couple hundred dollars on 
advertising.
 I had the idea, why not spend the money on gifting to People that can relate 
to the experience of transcending. This book writing was a project, I had 
wished would provide me with some comment and feedback... to fill my days with 
a bit of passion in writing.
 

 There is an option on amazon to gift books to others on line. I haven't 
checked out the details of how to do so, but I am sure there is a way I could 
send the book for free to others who view this option on your blog.
 That may get you into trouble, with the guidelines, not filtering all work 
through the leaders of the TM org.
 That would be your call, you could read it and then decide if it would pass 
judgement.
 

 It makes no sence for me to continue on this site, since I am not a 
participant of the community. My interest: feedback on the book. 

 There are a few serious negative blog sites out there bashing the TM movement. 
I am an expression of what Maharishi wished for...an individual, regularily 
practicing TM, in the light of one's discipline. This is an art book, poetic, 
visually stimulating transcendental art; a subjective experience of meditating 
artist in activity: a positive fresh approach to understanding the one's value, 
and benefit of this meditation. 

 

 Unless u have another suggestion, I will move on, but I do appreciate the 
effort
 thanks...let me know what you decide
 

 Dave Ryan

 


 

 
 
 


 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:23 AM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People come 
to TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 'green 
cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world has 
some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the right 
direction. TM will always be around.Yes, the David Lynch Foundation is further 
integrating TM with Western thought. Thanks for sharing more about this book, 
and your thinking. I have no need to pick apart what you are saying, or 
belittle you, though I see what you are proposing as a natural process that we 
can engage with or not, according to our personal desires. The "world" will be 
fine, either way.:-)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved 
to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years 
TM has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 

  TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 

 When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.
 There is a major shift, again with TM under the watch of David Lynch 
Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will subside or flatten to a 
degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... These are the steps of 
progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. The 1% rule is limiting 
our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  Why not? Corporations 
rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.
 If TM were a n

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I've been saying this for years here on FFL.  In the 1970s, people's 
lifestyles allowed for nightly meetings and the 7 step teaching method.  
TM seems to be stuck in the 1970s while other schools of meditation will 
offer weekend courses much more accessible to people current 
lifestyles.  They are also not priced out of reason.  And TM really is 
"yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned elsewhere.  Back in 
the 70s this was all too new to the general public and a giggling guru 
quite a novelty.


On 09/26/2015 05:01 AM, Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has 
evolved to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: 
for 50 plus years TM has been associated with a meditation created 
from India. Most all people in the western world perceives this 
knowledge as outside their world.*Subsciously,* most westerners see TM 
and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, a foreign 
design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western 
thinking. The great minds of western science, art,... all western 
discipline may incorporate this knowledge of life, (conceived in 
India) into a construct of western thought.
 TM *today*, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is 
still**thought to be an Eastern construct with some, scientific 
validation. And because of this perception, millions of people will 
still resist this meditation because of its association to Eastern 
thought.
When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as 
something*one needs* for betterment of self. People buy this product 
because of its projective value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. 
Subsciously, most everybody, views TM outside their comfort circle.
There is a major shift, again with TM under the watch of David Lynch 
Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will subside or 
flatten to a degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... 
These are the ! steps of progress, the way knowledge unfolds over 
generations. The 1% rule is limiting our reach, we want to reach 
beyond our expectations.  Why not? Corporations rely on impacting 
larger percentages for survival.

If TM were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.
$250 dollars for a nike shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys.
MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL 
LONG TERM TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, 
BEGIN TO START TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS 
ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of 
stress, out of control and at the same time we may now begin speaking 
about greater genius, greater creativity, and greater goodness in the 
light of science.
*Envy or jealously *may be the catalyst, which pushes the masses over 
the edge, into desiring more than what they have. When the masses 
begin to see results manifest in other people who do TM, they will 
wake to the realization; this is my knowledge, not India's.
It's not an easy task to explain greater genius, resulting from TM. 
Start the process, it will unfold over time.


Certaintly, all will give thanks to the tradition of masters which 
protected and passed on, this knowledge of life. The tradition's of 
this teaching should be protected and maintained behind closed doors. 
Emphasis should be placed upon western thought.  As this knowledge 
spreads over time, if it is successful, than Western man will re 
package this technique in the light of their language. Only then will 
the masses take hold! to the degree, it should.


I understand people on blogs love to pick apart, said logic. I am not 
attached to these thoughts. I am just putting them out there for 
contemplation. Focus on the reach, not the weakness of each word or 
phrase. What I write is not truth, but relative impressions of the 
moment. Calling me an idiot, accomplishes nothing. Do better than I; I 
am at the bottom of such a measure, called genius. Even I, as dull as 
I am, can see imperfection.

Dave Ryan




On Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 PM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't 
going to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. 
Even Maharishi focused on very small groups to continue the world's 
evolution. There is no need for 99% or more of the population to 
meditate. It is all about creating a catalyst. "do less and accomplish 
more".


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a 
gateway to God, they would stand in line to learn it."


This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my 
point made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.
What I said was...People would line up at age 10 to receive their key 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thanks for your replys, apparantely it's just between you and I. Yes I am just 
throwing it out for people to chew on; I see more people are referring toTM as 
a step to enlightenment. It takes time; generations, I believe, for a concept 
to take hold. Maybe quicker with TM.
I do appreciate your allowing me to chat a bit on the blog. I was hopeful other 
people would read the book and comment a bit, but thats not hapenning. I have 
another proposal for you ...I was planning to go with some advertising campaign 
on some of the social platforms. Spend a couple hundred dollars on advertising. 
I had the idea, why not spend the money on gifting to People that can relate to 
the experience of transcending. This book writing was a project, I had wished 
would provide me with some comment and feedback... to fill my days with a bit 
of passion in writing.
There is an option on amazon to gift books to others on line. I haven't checked 
out the details of how to do so, but I am sure there is a way I could send the 
book for free to others who view this option on your blog.That may get you into 
trouble, with the guidelines, not filtering all work through the leaders of the 
TM org.That would be your call, you could read it and then decide if it would 
pass judgement.
It makes no sence for me to continue on this site, since I am not a participant 
of the community. My interest: feedback on the book. 
There are a few serious negative blog sites out there bashing the TM movement. 
I am an expression of what Maharishi wished for...an individual, regularily 
practicing TM, in the light of one's discipline. This is an art book, poetic, 
visually stimulating transcendental art; a subjective experience of meditating 
artist in activity: a positive fresh approach to understanding the one's value, 
and benefit of this meditation. 

Unless u have another suggestion, I will move on, but I do appreciate the 
effortthanks...let me know what you decide
Dave Ryan



 


 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:23 AM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
   

     I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People 
come to TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 
'green cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world 
has some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the right 
direction. TM will always be around.Yes, the David Lynch Foundation is further 
integrating TM with Western thought. Thanks for sharing more about this book, 
and your thinking. I have no need to pick apart what you are saying, or 
belittle you, though I see what you are proposing as a natural process that we 
can engage with or not, according to our personal desires. The "world" will be 
fine, either way.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved to: 
readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years TM 
has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 
 TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 
When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.There is a major shift, again with TM under the 
watch of David Lynch Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will 
subside or flatten to a degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... 
These are the steps of progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. 
The 1% rule is limiting our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  
Why not? Corporations rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.If TM 
were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.$250 dollars for a nike 
shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys. 
MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL LONG TERM 
TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, BEGIN TO START 
TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS 
REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of stress, out of control and at the same 
time 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People come to 
TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 'green 
cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world has 
some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the right 
direction. TM will always be around.Yes, the David Lynch Foundation is further 
integrating TM with Western thought. Thanks for sharing more about this book, 
and your thinking. I have no need to pick apart what you are saying, or 
belittle you, though I see what you are proposing as a natural process that we 
can engage with or not, according to our personal desires. The "world" will be 
fine, either way.:-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved 
to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years 
TM has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 

  TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 

 When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.
 There is a major shift, again with TM under the watch of David Lynch 
Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will subside or flatten to a 
degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... These are the steps of 
progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. The 1% rule is limiting 
our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  Why not? Corporations 
rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.
 If TM were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.
 $250 dollars for a nike shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys. 

 MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL LONG 
TERM TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, BEGIN TO START 
TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS 
REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of stress, out of control and at the same 
time we may now begin speaking about greater genius, greater creativity, and 
greater goodness in the light of science. 

 Envy or jealously may be the catalyst, which pushes the masses over the edge, 
into desiring more than what they have. When the masses begin to see results 
manifest in other people who do TM, they will wake to the realization; this is 
my knowledge, not India's.
 It's not an easy task to explain greater genius, resulting from TM. Start the 
process, it will unfold over time. 

 

 Certaintly, all will give thanks to the tradition of masters which protected 
and passed on, this knowledge of life. The tradition's of this teaching should 
be protected and maintained behind closed doors. Emphasis should be placed upon 
western thought.  As this knowledge spreads over time, if it is successful, 
than Western man will re package this technique in the light of their language. 
Only then will the masses take hold to the degree, it should.
 

 I understand people on blogs love to pick apart, said logic. I am not attached 
to these thoughts. I am just putting them out there for contemplation. Focus on 
the reach, not the weakness of each word or phrase. What I write is not truth, 
but relative impressions of the moment. Calling me an idiot, accomplishes 
nothing. Do better than I; I am at the bottom of such a measure, called genius. 
Even I, as dull as I am, can see imperfection.
 Dave Ryan

 

 

 


 On Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 PM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't going 
to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even Maharishi 
focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There is no 
need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all about creating a 
catalyst. "do less and accomplish more".
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to 
God, they would stand in line to learn it."
 

 This is Dave Rya

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved to: 
readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years TM 
has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 
 TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 
When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.There is a major shift, again with TM under the 
watch of David Lynch Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will 
subside or flatten to a degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... 
These are the steps of progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. 
The 1% rule is limiting our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  
Why not? Corporations rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.If TM 
were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.$250 dollars for a nike 
shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys. 
MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL LONG TERM 
TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, BEGIN TO START 
TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS 
REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of stress, out of control and at the same 
time we may now begin speaking about greater genius, greater creativity, and 
greater goodness in the light of science. 
Envy or jealously may be the catalyst, which pushes the masses over the edge, 
into desiring more than what they have. When the masses begin to see results 
manifest in other people who do TM, they will wake to the realization; this is 
my knowledge, not India's.It's not an easy task to explain greater genius, 
resulting from TM. Start the process, it will unfold over time. 

Certaintly, all will give thanks to the tradition of masters which protected 
and passed on, this knowledge of life. The tradition's of this teaching should 
be protected and maintained behind closed doors. Emphasis should be placed upon 
western thought.  As this knowledge spreads over time, if it is successful, 
than Western man will re package this technique in the light of their language. 
Only then will the masses take hold to the degree, it should.
I understand people on blogs love to pick apart, said logic. I am not attached 
to these thoughts. I am just putting them out there for contemplation. Focus on 
the reach, not the weakness of each word or phrase. What I write is not truth, 
but relative impressions of the moment. Calling me an idiot, accomplishes 
nothing. Do better than I; I am at the bottom of such a measure, called genius. 
Even I, as dull as I am, can see imperfection.Dave Ryan
 
 


 On Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 PM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
   

     Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't 
going to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even 
Maharishi focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There 
is no need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all about 
creating a catalyst. "do less and accomplish more".
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to 
God, they would stand in line to learn it."
This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my point 
made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.What I said was...People 
would line up at age 10to receivetheir key to unlock their God givenpotential 
as humanbeings.You may suggest TM is a gateway to God but doing so would 
require work, as you suggested, I agree with your theory. You said:
 "I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending"There in lies the problem... people outside 
of the TM movement, view us as part of a group who think a certain way. This is 
normal thinking, groups think as groups do. In a sense, a group, by it's nature 
removes it's thinking away from the whole. Others outside of the group are not 
included. We all unconsciously isol

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't going to 
meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even Maharishi 
focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There is no 
need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all about creating a 
catalyst. "do less and accomplish more". 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to 
God, they would stand in line to learn it."
 

 This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my point 
made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.
 What I said was...People would line up at age 10 to receive their key to 
unlock their God given potential as human beings.
 You may suggest TM is a gateway to God but doing so would require work, as you 
suggested, I agree with your theory. You said:

 "I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending"
 There in lies the problem... people outside of the TM movement, view us as 
part of a group who think a certain way. This is normal thinking, groups think 
as groups do. In a sense, a group, by it's nature removes it's thinking away 
from the whole. Others outside of the group are not included. We all 
unconsciously isolate each other's position by definition of who or what we 
claim to be. 

 Belief or identification of self, sets us apart from each other. Groups draw 
and groups alienate, by their nature.
 

 So... people view TM as something outside of their own world, thats how they 
think, TM people think a certain way and thats ok for them.

 What the TM movement has failed to do: is communicate to the world what TM 
really is. 

 The TM group should have said, I'm sorry, I'm your new neighbor, I found this 
key on the street next to your driveway, is this your key? Of course they would 
be delighted and excited to get their key back, they didn't have a spare key to 
drive their vehicle, now locked in garage. 

 I am glad you have your key back and I am happy to have found it for you. You 
must be excited, oh yes, that key opens my world to all that I am. enjoy...done
 When the movement speaks of TM, there is a personna of ownership...we're 
giving u this technique and these are the conditions. twice a day, only from 
us. 

 Once a person begins TM, then they know this knowledge is their's...it's what 
they have always wanted. A key to fulfillment. Prior to that, people think this 
knowledge of TM is outside of themselves...which it's not!!! TM and all that it 
represents, is the people's knowledge, it's not owned by the TM org. The TM 
people just found the owner's key, next to their driveway.
 

 This awareness of ownership, is not known by the masses. If they knew what TM 
was, they would tear down the doors to get back their possessions.
 

 

 

 
 


 On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 6:46 PM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Oh yeah, there are lots of meditations - I used TM as an example because it 
is mentioned in the book that began this discussion. The fellow who wrote it 
mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to God, they would stand in 
line to learn it. I am interested in exploring the reasons that may not happen. 
I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending, and subsequent integration - It can make 
life uncomfortable for awhile, dealing with whatever it uncovers. That's my 
theory, so far. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not all disciplines emphasize practicing meditation twice a day.  Some just 
emphasize using it as needed.  It's good to step out of the shadow of TM and 
it's narrow definitions and find out what other paths do.  I know, they may 
want to throw you out of the dome for that but other gurus will actually have 
you visit saints, temples, gurus and ashrams.  I think the restrictions were to 
keep the money flow tight.  And of course the guilt aspect of you won't be 
supporting world peace if you don't at least meditate or fly twice a day.  
That's a variation on the old "Master Game" called "sin."
 
 
 On 09/23/2015 04:21 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic "problem" 
with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be considered a technology, 
we are used to having our tech delivered with no downside, except cost. TM 
represents the benefits of tech; acceleration, expansion, ease, etc., but the 
integration of it all, the work, must still get done, to ensure continued 
benefits - like building our own TV, instead of buying one. Some people don't 
want to do all the work. Also, because it is an intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefits can be tricky, at best.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mai

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

"The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to 
God, they would stand in line to learn it."
This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my point 
made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.What I said was...People 
would line up at age 10to receivetheir key to unlock their God givenpotential 
as humanbeings.You may suggest TM is a gateway to God but doing so would 
require work, as you suggested, I agree with your theory. You said:
 "I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending"There in lies the problem... people outside 
of the TM movement, view us as part of a group who think a certain way. This is 
normal thinking, groups think as groups do. In a sense, a group, by it's nature 
removes it's thinking away from the whole. Others outside of the group are not 
included. We all unconsciously isolate each other's position by definition of 
who or what we claim to be. 
Belief or identification of self, sets us apart from each other. Groups draw 
and groups alienate, by their nature.
So... people view TM as something outside of their own world, thats how they 
think, TM people think a certain way and thats ok for them.
What the TM movement has failed to do: is communicate to the world what TM 
really is. 
The TM group should have said, I'm sorry, I'm your new neighbor, I found this 
key on the street next to your driveway, is this your key? Of course they would 
be delighted and excited to get their key back, they didn't have a spare key to 
drive their vehicle, now locked in garage. 
I am glad you have your key back and I am happy to have found it for you. You 
must be excited, oh yes, that key opens my world to all that I am. 
enjoy...doneWhen the movement speaks of TM, there is a personna of 
ownership...we're giving u this technique and these are the conditions. twice a 
day, only from us. 
Once a person begins TM, then they know this knowledge is their's...it's what 
they have always wanted. A key to fulfillment. Prior to that, people think this 
knowledge of TM is outside of themselves...which it's not!!! TM and all that it 
represents, is the people's knowledge, it's not owned by the TM org. The TM 
people just found the owner's key, next to their driveway.
This awareness of ownership, is not known by the masses. If they knew what TM 
was, they would tear down the doors to get back their possessions.


 


 On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 6:46 PM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
   

     Oh yeah, there are lots of meditations - I used TM as an example because 
it is mentioned in the book that began this discussion. The fellow who wrote it 
mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to God, they would stand in 
line to learn it. I am interested in exploring the reasons that may not happen. 
I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending, and subsequent integration - It can make 
life uncomfortable for awhile, dealing with whatever it uncovers. That's my 
theory, so far. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Not all disciplines emphasizepracticing meditation twice a day.  Some just 
emphasize using itas needed.  It's good to step out of the shadow of TM and 
it'snarrow definitions and find out what other paths do.  I know, theymay want 
to throw you out of the dome for that but other guruswill actually have you 
visit saints, temples, gurus and ashrams. I think the restrictions were to keep 
the money flow tight.  Andof course the guilt aspect of you won't be supporting 
world peaceif you don't at least meditate or fly twice a day.  That's 
avariation on the old "Master Game" called "sin."


On 09/23/2015 04:21 PM, olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]wrote:


  Those could be useful adjustments, though you still havethe basic "problem" 
with TM, of transcending twice a day-- If TM can be considered a technology, we 
are used tohaving our tech delivered with no downside, except cost.TM 
represents the benefits of tech; acceleration,expansion, ease, etc., but the 
integration of it all, thework, must still get done, to ensure continued 
benefits -like building our own TV, instead of buying one. Somepeople don't 
want to do all the work. Also, because it isan intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefitscan be tricky, at best.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Therewas a report on FFL about anIndian ayurvedic doctor who visited and 
offered toteach correctmeditation.  He maintained that TM was too "shotgun"and 
therewere better ways using ayurveda to teach meditation. I've beensaying this 
for years as the TM technique is prettymuch for pittaor rajasic types.  That 
might mean if you're a bitkapha TM mightbe fattening.  Some of  the Indian 
gurus will observea person forseveral days and give a mantra appropriate for 
theirtype.

On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesedwuz@...[Fair

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Oh yeah, there are lots of meditations - I used TM as an example because it is 
mentioned in the book that began this discussion. The fellow who wrote it 
mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to God, they would stand in 
line to learn it. I am interested in exploring the reasons that may not happen. 
I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending, and subsequent integration - It can make 
life uncomfortable for awhile, dealing with whatever it uncovers. That's my 
theory, so far.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not all disciplines emphasize practicing meditation twice a day.  Some just 
emphasize using it as needed.  It's good to step out of the shadow of TM and 
it's narrow definitions and find out what other paths do.  I know, they may 
want to throw you out of the dome for that but other gurus will actually have 
you visit saints, temples, gurus and ashrams.  I think the restrictions were to 
keep the money flow tight.  And of course the guilt aspect of you won't be 
supporting world peace if you don't at least meditate or fly twice a day.  
That's a variation on the old "Master Game" called "sin."
 
 
 On 09/23/2015 04:21 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic "problem" 
with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be considered a technology, 
we are used to having our tech delivered with no downside, except cost. TM 
represents the benefits of tech; acceleration, expansion, ease, etc., but the 
integration of it all, the work, must still get done, to ensure continued 
benefits - like building our own TV, instead of buying one. Some people don't 
want to do all the work. Also, because it is an intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefits can be tricky, at best.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 There was a report on FFL about an Indian ayurvedic doctor who visited and 
offered to teach correct meditation.  He maintained that TM was too "shotgun" 
and there were better ways using ayurveda to teach meditation.  I've been 
saying this for years as the TM technique is pretty much for pitta or rajasic 
types.  That might mean if you're a bit kapha TM might be fattening.  Some of  
the Indian gurus will observe a person for several days and give a mantra 
appropriate for their type.
 
 On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical means to 
liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work as 
described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness you 
mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, transcendental 
beings and might as well get on with it. I also see Maharishi as a great 
messenger, responding to the need of the times, to bring out the knowledge that 
he did, though I have no need to revere him as a personality. 
 

 As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who learned in the 
past have now set it aside. The intellectual case could be made certainly that 
it is a benefit for everyone, but each of us makes up our minds differently, 
and we are often drawn to spiritual practices for karmic reasons, in addition 
to a well reasoned approach. 
 

 Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is enough, imo, 
and that is now well established globally. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:ryandave177@... wrote :
 
 You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
  A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S A MESS
 
 #1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished writing 
it, as I witnessed what I wrote. 
 I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.
  
 In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
  In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies within: your 
potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi provided us with a key to 
unlock the pathway to what we already own: our birthright.
 
 So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this knowledge of 
life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is given, from Maharishi. 
Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key to turn on the veh! icle. Who 
owns the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are 
remembering and tapping into what we already possess. 
 If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 to 
receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.
 
 This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank God, 
Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Not all disciplines emphasize practicing meditation twice a day.  Some 
just emphasize using it as needed.  It's good to step out of the shadow 
of TM and it's narrow definitions and find out what other paths do.  I 
know, they may want to throw you out of the dome for that but other 
gurus will actually have you visit saints, temples, gurus and ashrams. I 
think the restrictions were to keep the money flow tight.  And of course 
the guilt aspect of you won't be supporting world peace if you don't at 
least meditate or fly twice a day.  That's a variation on the old 
"Master Game" called "sin."



On 09/23/2015 04:21 PM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic 
"problem" with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be 
considered a technology, we are used to having our tech delivered with 
no downside, except cost. TM represents the benefits of tech; 
acceleration, expansion, ease, etc., but the integration of it all, 
the work, must still get done, to ensure continued benefits - like 
building our own TV, instead of buying one. Some people don't want to 
do all the work. Also, because it is an intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefits can be tricky, at best.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

There was a report on FFL about an Indian ayurvedic doctor who visited 
and offered to teach correct meditation.  He maintained that TM was 
too "shotgun" and there were better ways using ayurveda to teach 
meditation. I've been saying this for years as the TM technique is 
pretty much for pitta or rajasic types.  That might mean if you're a 
bit kapha TM might be fattening.  Some of  the Indian gurus will 
observe a person for several days and give a mantra appropriate for 
their type.


On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesedwuz@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical
means to liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that
it can work as described. It is basically a tool for us to get
out of the dullness you mentioned, and get things moving again -
we are at our core, transcendental beings and might as well get
on with it. I also see Maharishi as a great messenger, responding
to the need of the times, to bring out the knowledge that he did,
though I have no need to revere him as a personality.


As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who
learned in the past have now set it aside. The intellectual case
could be made certainly that it is a benefit for everyone, but
each of us makes up our minds differently, and we are often drawn
to spiritual practices for karmic reasons, in addition to a well
reasoned approach.

Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is
enough, imo, and that is now well established globally.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
 A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY,
BEHAVIOR'S A MESS

#1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I
finished writing it, as I witnessed what I wrote.
I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.

In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
 In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies
within: your potential, unrealized intelligence and joy.
Maharishi provided us with a key to unlock the pathway to what we
already own: our birthright.

So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this
knowledge of life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is
given, from Maharishi. Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the
key to turn on the veh! icle. Who owns the vehicle?...we all do.
Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are remembering and
tapping into what we already possess.
If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah,
not interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up
at age 10 to receive their key to unlock their God given
potential as human beings.

This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life.
Thank God, Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the
work.

#2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant,
brilliance of mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my
subjective experience: as dull as I am, I am genius in moments as
it comes without effort.
Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one
realizes, I am more than what I thought, was capable.

#3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder.
Starting with chapter 3: realizing that habits and conditions of
mind, filter out, our love of life. Meditation is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic "problem" 
with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be considered a technology, 
we are used to having our tech delivered with no downside, except cost. TM 
represents the benefits of tech; acceleration, expansion, ease, etc., but the 
integration of it all, the work, must still get done, to ensure continued 
benefits - like building our own TV, instead of buying one. Some people don't 
want to do all the work. Also, because it is an intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefits can be tricky, at best. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 There was a report on FFL about an Indian ayurvedic doctor who visited and 
offered to teach correct meditation.  He maintained that TM was too "shotgun" 
and there were better ways using ayurveda to teach meditation.  I've been 
saying this for years as the TM technique is pretty much for pitta or rajasic 
types.  That might mean if you're a bit kapha TM might be fattening.  Some of  
the Indian gurus will observe a person for several days and give a mantra 
appropriate for their type.
 
 On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical means to 
liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work as 
described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness you 
mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, transcendental 
beings and might as well get on with it. I also see Maharishi as a great 
messenger, responding to the need of the times, to bring out the knowledge that 
he did, though I have no need to revere him as a personality. 
 

 As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who learned in the 
past have now set it aside. The intellectual case could be made certainly that 
it is a benefit for everyone, but each of us makes up our minds differently, 
and we are often drawn to spiritual practices for karmic reasons, in addition 
to a well reasoned approach. 
 

 Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is enough, imo, 
and that is now well established globally. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:ryandave177@... wrote :
 
 You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
  A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S A MESS
 
 #1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished writing 
it, as I witnessed what I wrote. 
 I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.
  
 In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
  In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies within: your 
potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi provided us with a key to 
unlock the pathway to what we already own: our birthright.
 
 So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this knowledge of 
life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is given, from Maharishi. 
Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key to turn on the veh! icle. Who 
owns the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are 
remembering and tapping into what we already possess. 
 If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 to 
receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.
 
 This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank God, 
Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the work.
 
 #2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant, brilliance of 
mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my subjective experience: as dull 
as I am, I am genius in moments as it comes without effort.
 Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one realizes, I am 
more than what I thought, was capable.
 
 #3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder. Starting 
with chapter 3:  realizing that habits and conditions of mind, filter out, our 
love of life. Meditation is a tool for a freshening sense.



 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

There was a report on FFL about an Indian ayurvedic doctor who visited 
and offered to teach correct meditation.  He maintained that TM was too 
"shotgun" and there were better ways using ayurveda to teach 
meditation.  I've been saying this for years as the TM technique is 
pretty much for pitta or rajasic types.  That might mean if you're a bit 
kapha TM might be fattening.  Some of  the Indian gurus will observe a 
person for several days and give a mantra appropriate for their type.


On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical means 
to liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work 
as described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness 
you mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, 
transcendental beings and might as well get on with it. I also see 
Maharishi as a great messenger, responding to the need of the times, 
to bring out the knowledge that he did, though I have no need to 
revere him as a personality.



As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who 
learned in the past have now set it aside. The intellectual case could 
be made certainly that it is a benefit for everyone, but each of us 
makes up our minds differently, and we are often drawn to spiritual 
practices for karmic reasons, in addition to a well reasoned approach.


Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is 
enough, imo, and that is now well established globally.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
 A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S 
A MESS


#1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished 
writing it, as I witnessed what I wrote.

I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.

In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
 In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies 
within: your potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi 
provided us with a key to unlock the pathway to what we already own: 
our birthright.


So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this 
knowledge of life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is 
given, from Maharishi. Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key 
to turn on the veh! icle. Who owns the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge 
is structured in consciousness, we are remembering and tapping into 
what we already possess.
If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 
to receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.


This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank 
God, Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the work.


#2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant, 
brilliance of mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my 
subjective experience: as dull as I am, I am genius in moments as it 
comes without effort.
Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one realizes, 
I am more than what I thought, was capable.


#3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder. 
Starting with chapter 3:  realizing that habits and conditions of 
mind, filter out, our love of life. Meditation is a tool for a 
freshening sense.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical means to 
liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work as 
described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness you 
mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, transcendental 
beings and might as well get on with it. I also see Maharishi as a great 
messenger, responding to the need of the times, to bring out the knowledge that 
he did, though I have no need to revere him as a personality.  

 As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who learned in the 
past have now set it aside. The intellectual case could be made certainly that 
it is a benefit for everyone, but each of us makes up our minds differently, 
and we are often drawn to spiritual practices for karmic reasons, in addition 
to a well reasoned approach. 
 

 Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is enough, imo, 
and that is now well established globally. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
 A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S A MESS

#1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished writing it, 
as I witnessed what I wrote. 
I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.
 
In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
 In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies within: your 
potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi provided us with a key to 
unlock the pathway to what we already own: our birthright.

So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this knowledge of 
life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is given, from Maharishi. 
Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key to turn on the vehicle. Who owns 
the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are 
remembering and tapping into what we already possess. 
If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 to 
receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.

This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank God, 
Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the work.

#2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant, brilliance of 
mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my subjective experience: as dull 
as I am, I am genius in moments as it comes without effort.
Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one realizes, I am 
more than what I thought, was capable.

#3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder. Starting with 
chapter 3:  realizing that habits and conditions of mind, filter out, our love 
of life. Meditation is a tool for a freshening sense.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
 A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S A MESS

#1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished writing it, 
as I witnessed what I wrote. 
I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.
 
In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
 In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies within: your 
potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi provided us with a key to 
unlock the pathway to what we already own: our birthright.

So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this knowledge of 
life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is given, from Maharishi. 
Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key to turn on the vehicle. Who owns 
the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are 
remembering and tapping into what we already possess. 
If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 to 
receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.

This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank God, 
Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the work.

#2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant, brilliance of 
mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my subjective experience: as dull 
as I am, I am genius in moments as it comes without effort.
Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one realizes, I am 
more than what I thought, was capable.

#3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder. Starting with 
chapter 3:  realizing that habits and conditions of mind, filter out, our love 
of life. Meditation is a tool for a freshening sense.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

HI, thanks for your info. I was curious where your comment came from. I don't 
live in Fairfield, nor do I shop much in the spiritual supermarket. I am always 
interested in how any of us puts our found spiritual gifts into practice. If I 
may take the lazy person's way out, what do you consider the three most 
important ideas in your book? 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 thanks for your reply,
 my comment on one pointedness... I have noticed many people around the world 
who teach and recommend disciplines of health, including meditation practice: 
don't actually regularily practice their recommended disciplines in daily 
living.
 Many play the part (seminaring themselves to death, thinking ...they are 
growing); wearing the cloth of perceived value. 

 

 When I was 19 years of age, before even starting TM or any kind of healthy 
thinking beyond high school, I made a personal decision: challenged myself to 
live a righteous lifestyle. To me that meant, being a good person in living, no 
matter what I become in life.
 Even the best people on the planet , are f... ups: I thought, now that's a 
tough goal. My mind was set, in that personal moment, one afternoon. To this 
day, I have followed that "good person" principle in all relationships. I've 
screwed up and made mistakes, but never have I faultered from the intention of 
good behavior. At work, in marriage, with strangers..the principle stands, 
unshakeable in all situations. 

 

 Simply put...that is my one pointed-ness in living. It requires integrity, 
honestly, and acceptance of others as is. 

 People talk a good game of living: few practice it on a daily basis. 

 What's it done for me? Nothing more than, I am proud of my choices and who 
I've become. Far from perfect: my intention is great.
 

 I enjoy this kind of back and forth, it fills a passion and keeps my mind 
thinking...thanks for that...

 Not sure what goes from here? I was hopeful some would read my book and I 
could have that give and take. I could care less about  selling the book for 
profit, but I have to charge enough to break even. If no one wants to buy it, I 
will eventually put it out for free on free book sites, I guess. You are in the 
middle of TM land...my book fits, a gift of sort for those who transcend. If I 
wanted money I would have wrote about sex, romance and violence. 

 

 I'm an expat, near the jungle on the border of Thailand and Mirimar, a bit 
crazy to do so, but not as crazy as living in Fairfield...no?

 

 Dave Ryan

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 


 On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:00 AM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Hi, and Welcome - I read the available excerpts of your book - I am curious 
about your statement below that you are more one pointed and disciplined than 
most. In what domain, and what has that done for you lately? :-)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thank you for invitation to FAIRFIELD GROUP
 My name is Dave Ryan, I have been practicing TM since 1972; Sidhi program: 
(govenor on 1976 flying course).
 Graduate of MIU: Santa Barbara, Calif...73-77...Fairfield to flying course; 
finished with a BIDS degree at MIU. 

 MS:Health Education, Univ of Colorado/UCLA, post graduate work, 78, 79.
 Created: Ryan's Brush Inc. 1984...Art creation in commercial and private 
settings.
 

 Retired from working America, 2009, at age 57.
 I currently live, travel and volunteer my services in South East Asia. Living 
a simple life.

 

 My reason for joining your group is simple: A book came through me: in a 
sense, without permission of self. Meaning it flowed from within (not unusual). 
The audience it was meant for: myself and people who are familiar with and 
experience finer levels of thought during Transcendental Meditation.
 

 I live, off the beaten path, in simple settings, by choice. I am not really 
connected to western civilization, except for this sharing: a bit of connection 
and feedback. I am more one pointed and disciplined, than most. 

 

 I wrote this book, plopped it on amazon KDP select program and as expected it 
sits with few takers. Out of respect, I am not using trademarked words of TM 
movement, thus my generic keywords are not tapping into people who transcend on 
a regular basis as I.
 I priced the book so most can afford and gave it away for free under KDP 
Select 5 day promotion. I had hope a TM'er would pick it up and they may 
connect to my blog for back and forth comment. The more negative the comment, 
the better as it shapes or challenges more projection of love, on my 
end...if that makes sense to you.

 

 It would certaintly enrich my life to share and challenge thought with those 
who experience greater awareness in thought. I am outside the box, a rebel of 
sort, and I am most certaintly respectful of Maharishi's wishes and 
expectations of us all.
   I did not ask permission or grace from within the TM org. to write or 
publish this book. Reason being, the book is n

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

thanks for your reply,my comment on one pointedness... I have noticed many 
people around the world who teach and recommend disciplines of health, 
including meditation practice: don't actually regularily practice their 
recommended disciplines in daily living.Many play the part (seminaring 
themselves to death, thinking ...they are growing); wearing the cloth of 
perceived value.


When I was 19 years of age, before even starting TM or any kind of healthy 
thinking beyond high school, I made a personal decision: challenged myself to 
live a righteous lifestyle. To me that meant, being a good person in living, no 
matter what I become in life. Even the best people on the planet , are f... 
ups: I thought, now that's a tough goal. My mind was set, in that personal 
moment, one afternoon. To this day, I have followed that "good person" 
principle in all relationships. I've screwed up and made mistakes, but never 
have I faultered from the intention of good behavior. At work, in marriage, 
with strangers..the principle stands, unshakeable in all situations.


Simply put...that is my one pointed-ness in living. It requires integrity, 
honestly, and acceptance of others as is.
People talk a good game of living: few practice it on a daily basis.
What's it done for me? Nothing more than, I am proud of my choices and who I've 
become. Far from perfect: my intention is great.
I enjoy this kind of back and forth, it fills a passion and keeps my mind 
thinking...thanks for that...
Not sure what goes from here? I was hopeful some would read my book and I could 
have that give and take. I could care less about  selling the book for profit, 
but I have to charge enough to break even. If no one wants to buy it, I will 
eventually put it out for free on free book sites, I guess. You are in the 
middle of TM land...my book fits, a gift of sort for those who transcend. If I 
wanted money I would have wrote about sex, romance and violence.


I'm an expat, near the jungle on the border of Thailand and Mirimar, a bit 
crazy to do so, but not as crazy as living in Fairfield...no?


Dave Ryan















 On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:00 AM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



     Hi, and Welcome - I read the available excerpts of your book - I am 
curious about your statement below that you are more one pointed and 
disciplined than most. In what domain, and what has that done for you lately? 
:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Thank you for invitation to FAIRFIELD GROUPMy name is Dave Ryan, I have been 
practicing TM since 1972; Sidhi program: (govenor on 1976 flying 
course).Graduate of MIU: Santa Barbara, Calif...73-77...Fairfield to flying 
course; finished with a BIDS degree at MIU.
MS:Health Education, Univ of Colorado/UCLA, post graduate work, 78, 79.Created: 
Ryan's Brush Inc. 1984...Art creation in commercial and private settings.
Retired from working America, 2009, at age 57.I currently live, travel and 
volunteer my services in South East Asia. Living a simple life.


My reason for joining your group is simple: A book came through me: in a sense, 
without permission of self. Meaning it flowed from within (not unusual). The 
audience it was meant for: myself and people who are familiar with and 
experience finer levels of thought during Transcendental Meditation.

I live, off the beaten path, in simple settings, by choice. I am not really 
connected to western civilization, except for this sharing: a bit of connection 
and feedback. I am more one pointed and disciplined, than most.


I wrote this book, plopped it on amazon KDP select program and as expected it 
sits with few takers. Out of respect, I am not using trademarked words of TM 
movement, thus my generic keywords are not tapping into people who transcend on 
a regular basis as I. I priced the book so most can afford and gave it away for 
free under KDP Select 5 day promotion. I had hope a TM'er would pick it up and 
they may connect to my blog for back and forth comment. The more negative the 
comment, the better as it shapes or challenges more projection of love, on 
my end...if that makes sense to you.
It would certaintly enrich my life to share and challenge thought with those 
who experience greater awareness in thought. I am outside the box, a rebel of 
sort, and I am most certaintly respectful of Maharishi's wishes and 
expectations of us all.  I did not ask permission or grace from within the TM 
org. to write or publish this book. Reason being, the book is not about TM, it 
is a subjective experience, a work of effortless discovery of clarity in 
thinking. Book addresses my subjective experience of connection to cosmos; man, 
woman and nature. Subjective experience comes as word. The book addresses 
politics, capitalism, human behavior and perception. 75 % of book is prose and 
verse leading, logic of mind. Over 150 images of my art, reflecting the themes 
of each verse.
So here is a link to my book if u

[FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hi, and Welcome - I read the available excerpts of your book - I am curious 
about your statement below that you are more one pointed and disciplined than 
most. In what domain, and what has that done for you lately? :-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thank you for invitation to FAIRFIELD GROUP
 My name is Dave Ryan, I have been practicing TM since 1972; Sidhi program: 
(govenor on 1976 flying course).
 Graduate of MIU: Santa Barbara, Calif...73-77...Fairfield to flying course; 
finished with a BIDS degree at MIU. 

 MS:Health Education, Univ of Colorado/UCLA, post graduate work, 78, 79.
 Created: Ryan's Brush Inc. 1984...Art creation in commercial and private 
settings.
 

 Retired from working America, 2009, at age 57.
 I currently live, travel and volunteer my services in South East Asia. Living 
a simple life.

 

 My reason for joining your group is simple: A book came through me: in a 
sense, without permission of self. Meaning it flowed from within (not unusual). 
The audience it was meant for: myself and people who are familiar with and 
experience finer levels of thought during Transcendental Meditation.
 

 I live, off the beaten path, in simple settings, by choice. I am not really 
connected to western civilization, except for this sharing: a bit of connection 
and feedback. I am more one pointed and disciplined, than most. 

 

 I wrote this book, plopped it on amazon KDP select program and as expected it 
sits with few takers. Out of respect, I am not using trademarked words of TM 
movement, thus my generic keywords are not tapping into people who transcend on 
a regular basis as I.
 I priced the book so most can afford and gave it away for free under KDP 
Select 5 day promotion. I had hope a TM'er would pick it up and they may 
connect to my blog for back and forth comment. The more negative the comment, 
the better as it shapes or challenges more projection of love, on my 
end...if that makes sense to you.

 

 It would certaintly enrich my life to share and challenge thought with those 
who experience greater awareness in thought. I am outside the box, a rebel of 
sort, and I am most certaintly respectful of Maharishi's wishes and 
expectations of us all.
   I did not ask permission or grace from within the TM org. to write or 
publish this book. Reason being, the book is not about TM, it is a subjective 
experience, a work of effortless discovery of clarity in thinking. Book 
addresses my subjective experience of connection to cosmos; man, woman and 
nature. Subjective experience comes as word. The book addresses politics, 
capitalism, human behavior and perception. 75 % of book is prose and verse 
leading, logic of mind. Over 150 images of my art, reflecting the themes of 
each verse.
 

 So here is a link to my book if u are curious..look inside the book of 463 
pages..u can pull up 10% for free to read.
 If u like the book's potential for discussion and enjoyment, I'll gift u a 
copy if you'll read it. You can tear it apart or not, just let me know if this 
book would be a benefit to this site. If not please let me know as well...book 
link below with reviews

 thanks 

 Dave Ryan
 

 
http://www.amazon.com/PIRATES-CALL-MAHARISHI-MAHESH-YOGI-ebook/dp/B0140UAU1O/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442278180&sr=1-1&keywords=a+pirates+call
 
http://www.amazon.com/PIRATES-CALL-MAHARISHI-MAHESH-YOGI-ebook/dp/B0140UAU1O/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442278180&sr=1-1&keywords=a+pirates+call