Re: Bailey is anemic
Hi Belinda, I read your post at the anemia group...I am going to try to tell you what we gave Bandy at first.. We used a terumo syringe with the orange needle, I think it was 25 guage..it is a 1cc syringe..he weighed about 6# then and we gave him.07cc. The first mark on it is .1 so that isn't very much. (little more than 1/2 of one tenth of a cc) I hope I am making sense of this.. His first bottle whichwas 1cc total was $133. So it lasted quite awhile...I think he received 14 shots with 1cc.. I would have to go back to get his records to see how many we gave him...he may have received 3 in a week more than once..I think it had to be every 3 to 4 days...for a week or 2 with weekly checkings of his PCV...His amazingly went up in 2 wks..My vet said she had one other kitty that took almost 9 wks to see a big change...of just 2 to 3 points...Bandy's went to as high as 35 after about 3 wks then sorta just has been staying in the 20's until his last check up.. when he did reach 30 we cut back to 2x a week then once a week until we stopped the end of Aug.. I'm sorry if I have totally confused you..it is hard to explain...I will be going out to Bandy's vets next week so I will look at his records to see exactly what we did.. Our best to you and Bailey, Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
Bailey and OT
Prayers that Bailey improves fast for you Belinda - so difficult when they are not wanting to eat - your heart just sinks. OT My friend has a 9 month old persian (blue) kitten. For the last 2 months he has let it out in to his back garden and watched it wandering around but a few days ago it jumped a 6 foot fence and wandered off and didn't come back so all were in deep worry as he was nowhere to be seen. I told him to try and keep calm as people here had got cats backs after 10-14 days. I said it sounds strange but that I and others here believe cats and some other animals have a sixth sense and that he should keep sending his thoughts out to guide his kitten home - piture him coming home form places around the area. I thought he may laugh at that idea but he said he did do it and then after 3 days he had a dream of his kitten walkin gin through the door - that day an elderly lady found him and took him home. So all relieved the kitten is back home - I told him to keep kittie indoors in my overprotective cat mommy manner. Aside form FeLV and FIV risks - there is also risk of traffic accident and also being stolen - Persians don't come cheap. Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
Re: How to pill a Cat
Hilarious! --- Steph E Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Borrowed from COTH board -- How to give a cat a pill... 1. Pick up cat and cradle it in the crook of your left arm as if holding a baby. Position right forefinger and thumb on either side of cat's mouth and gently apply pressure to cheeks while holding pill in right hand. As cat opens mouth, pop pill into mouth. Allow cat to close mouth and swallow. 2. Retrieve pill from floor and cat from behind sofa. Cradle cat in left arm and repeat process. 3. Retrieve cat from bedroom, and throw soggy pill away. 4. Take new pill from foil wrap, cradle cat in left arm, holding rear paws tightly with left hand. Force jaws open and push pill to back of mouth with right forefinger. Hold mouth shut for a count of ten. 5. Retrieve pill from goldfish bowl and cat from top of wardrobe. Call spouse from garden. 6. Kneel on floor with cat wedged firmly between knees, hold front and rear paws. Ignore low growls emitted by cat. Get spouse to hold head firmly with one hand while forcing wooden ruler into mouth. Drop pill down ruler and rub cat's throat vigorously. 7. Retrieve cat from curtain rail, get another pill from foil wrap. Make note to buy new ruler and repair curtains. Carefully sweep shattered figurines and vases from hearth and set to one side for gluing later. 8. Wrap cat in large towel and get spouse to lie on cat with head just visible from below armpit. Put pill in end of drinking straw, force mouth open with pencil and blow down drinking straw. 9. Check label to make sure pill not harmful to humans, drink 1 beer to take taste away. Apply Band-Aid to spouse's forearm and remove blood from carpet with cold water and soap. 10. Retrieve cat from neighbor's shed. Get another pill. Open another beer. Place cat in cupboard, and close door on to neck, to leave head showing. Force mouth open with dessert spoon. Flick pill down throat with elastic band. 11. Fetch screwdriver from garage and put cupboard door back on hinges. Drink beer. Fetch bottle of scotch. Pour shot, drink. Apply cold compress to cheek and check records for date of last tetanus shot. Apply whiskey compress to cheek to disinfect. Toss back another shot. Throw Tee shirt away and fetch new one from bedroom. 12. Call fire department to retrieve the damn cat from across the road. Apologize to neighbor who crashed into fence while swerving to avoid cat. Take last pill from foil wrap. 13. Tie the little bastard's front paws to rear paws with garden twine and bind tightly to leg of dining table, find heavy-duty pruning gloves from shed. Push pill into mouth followed by large piece of filet steak. Be rough about it. Hold head vertically and pour 2 pints of water down throat to wash pill down. 14. Consume remainder of scotch. Get spouse to drive you to the emergency room, sit quietly while doctor stitches fingers and forearm and removes pill remnants from right eye. Call furniture shop on way home to order new table. 15. Arrange for SPCA to collect mutant cat from hell and call local pet shop to see if they have any hamsters. HOW TO GIVE A DOG A PILL 1. Wrap it in bacon. 2. Toss it in the air __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: Update on my cat and moving
Kevin, You've done more than what a lot of people in your situation would have done for Marilyn. Sometimes life's circumstances put us in between a rock and a hard place and all we can do is our best. I'll keep Marilyn is my prayers and hopefully, you will come home soon! Good luck overseas. :) Wendy --- Kevin Blaisdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to thank all those who have helped me with info and encouragement. I need to follow up to make the exact moving arrangement, but it looks like a generous shelter in IL is going to be able to accomadate Marilyn. On the down side the follow up IFA test came back positive. I knew the chances were slim to none of her somehow not having it, but after being told how doomed she was and then having her live her for almost 3yrs without any sign of sickness I had to wonder. I have mixed feelings now. I am grateful someone is willing to take her, but a bit sad she won't have the relative luxury so far. All I can hope is that it is relatively comfortable and maybe she will benefit from cat companionship I was unable to provide. As it is sometimes I wonder if she is happy being converted to a trapped indoor cat, but I had to do something about all the doomed litters she was contributing to the neighborhood. Since I have heard a lot about stress being bad for FeLV+ I also am concered about this upheaval causing something to come on. It would really be disappointing for her to be healthy all this time and then suddenly become ill while I am gone. But I have come to realize while a lot of things didn't work in her favor hopefully however this turns out whatever I did made things better if far from ideal. I only hope everything works out for myself as well as for Marilyn over the next year or so. Thank You, Kevin __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Sub-Q for Stretch an update on her
Thank you Hideyo. I might need your help. I am waiting for an email for Terrence. He emailed me this morning and said the Rx never came, so I called the vet and the tech said that the doctor never keeps an Rx pad, so he couldn't write the Rx. All he could do is sign off if the company faxes them the order. (They could have just told me that yesterday!) So I emailed the company back and told them that's the only way the doc would sign off and I'm waiting to hear if the company will fax them. If they don't, I'll have to cancel the order. On a positive note, when I got off work last night, I took some tuna in to Stretch (and the other kitties of course), and Stretch ate ALL that I had put on her plate (probably a 3rd of a can), and then she went to the food bowl, and started eating dry food! I was so excited. Her labored breathing seems to be decreasing a little each day, so maybe it's possible that she did have pneumonia. I don't know. I just always associate pneumonia with coughing and runny nose, etc., but Stretch didn't have any of that. So we are very hopeful now, and happy. Thanks to all of you guys who prayed for Stretch to recover. We really appreciate it! Maybe by Monday, we'll see a complete turn around! :) Wendy --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, if for some reason, your vet won't do it, just let me know - I can probably order for you on line (I use a different company, but I have a prescription there already, too) and have it shipped to you so that you can get a whole case of fluid which should last for a long time... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sub-Q for Stretch Hi guys, Well, yesterday I ran into a problem trying to get sub-Q fluids for Stretch. The vet I originally took him to charges $30/35 for a set up, which I thought was crazy. So I called another vet, who said they'd have to talk to my vet since they hadn't seen my cat, which I didn't want in case it might tick off the vet, or they'd have to see my cat, which would mean another $30 office visit on top of paying for the fluid set up. So I started looking online at the link that Belinda (I think) provided and found a really great priced company called Direct Medical, Inc. I called Terrence Henry at 800-316-4993 and spoke to him. He was VERY nice and helped me with all my questions. He directed me to their website: http://www.dmi2.com/ and I clicked on online catalog and then CRF (chronic renal failure) customers and then CRF products and I was there. I ordered one Abbott lactated ringer bag for $2, an Abbott IV set/venal set for $2.99, a 100 ct. of needles (4 varieties of guages to choose from) for $7.50, and another lactated ringer/IV tubing set with 2 needles for $3.95 (it was cheaper to do this than order 2 bags and 2 IV sets). This totalled about $16.00, which I thought was great. Shipping was another $7, and handling another $7, so after all was said and done, I still spent $30, but I have a whole bunch of needles, 2 bags, and 2 IV sets for what I would have paid for 1 set. So I think I did ok. He said it should arrive in about 2 days via UPS ground. I did have to have my vet fax over an Rx to their 800 fax number, which was a pain because that's not my vet's usual procedure, and I am still waiting to hear if he will, but if not, I'm sure something will be worked out. Anyway, thanks to everyone for all your help with Stretch and I am feeling pretty confident about doing this. I hope she feels so much better after the first fluid. My nephew will probably freak out because he hates needles, but after he sees me do it, and sees the cat is ok, he'll be fine. Stretch was found outside playing with her sister when my nephew got off the bus yesterday, and hasn't been lying around like she was, and has been eating a little, so I know she is feeling better. Her breathing is still somewhat labored, but for now she is stable, thank goodness. Thanks again so much, :) Wendy __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: Sub-Q for Stretch an update on her
Wendy, Such good news about Stretch! When Patches had pneumonia, she was not coughing or anything, just hunched up and looked like she felt really sick. She may have had some mucous around her nose, but that's it. I took her to the emergency vet and she had pneumonia. She got Baytril and Immuno-regulin and I think it took her almost a week to feel like herself again. That was about 3 years ago, knock on wood. Michelle
Re: Bailey and OT
Kerry Michelle All, Bailey is still holding his own, I am actively syringe feeding now, and got a total of 125cc's into him yesterday, he was 8lbs. 4oz yesterday and I weighted him before his 30cc breakfast and he was 8lbs 5oz, so he didn't lose anymore weight since yesterday. He seems to be toerating the syringing better and I am paying attention to his signals, when he starts to struggle hard, we are done, it is usually at the 30 or 40cc mark, so he must be getting full and letting me know by really struggling. Up until he struggles I think he has resigned himself to the fact that he is going to get syringed and now seems to tolerate it OK. I gave him about 10cc's too much for his last meal yesterday he had started to struggle quite a bit and I gave him 10 more cc's, he looked pretty uncomfortable for a good hour after wards, but didn't throw it back up, so I am paying closer attention to him and it seems to be working well. He still isn't eating more than a few bites on his own. I'm hoping once he starts to feel better he will start eating, but if not we'll be fine. I didn't give him the epogen last night because there was a question on the anemia list as to the dosage, all of them are doing the 2000 vial size and mine is a 1 vial size, some seemed to think that was too strong a dosage so I put a call into my vet and she was off yesterday so I hope to hear from her today (she is probably getting alittle tired of me questioning everything) :), but OH well, better to be safe than sorry so she'll just have to hate me. I just wish he didn't feel so bony, I'm used to Bailey being on the plump side :( Thanks everyone for the support and suggestions ... -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Sub-Q for Stretch an update on her
Wendy, I'm glad to hear Stretch is feeling better and eating!! -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?
Bonnie, Ask your vet about giving him a dexamethasone shot. It really makes them feel better, even when they are really sick. And sometimes helps with anemia. It may be contraindicated because of his kidney and thyroid problems, though, I don't know. Michelle In a message dated 1/5/2006 10:42:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fu is pretty wiped out, Michelle. He can barely move, but I think thefolic acid has helped a little. When he looks like he had to go to thelittle box, I carry him there and support him while goes - or tries to go. I'm hand-feeding him a/d with Fancy Feast beef liver mixed in. I've gotsome beef liver on hand that I'll cook up for him later. Bonnie
RE: Need your help with Stretch
Wendy,I had a cat that was just plain hornery. He had to be sedated at the vet's a lot of times because he would growl, bite, etc... (and no, he wasn't feral, he was just mean! lol) Anyway, I could handle him much better at home than they could at the office.When I gave him sub-q he would try to walk around, squirm, etc... wouldn't get mad, just wouldn't be still and I didn't want to set him off. I would sit with a little can of treats and give him treats when I gave him fluids. That made him want to stay with me.Just an idea that might help.t"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wendy, I'm barely keeping up with posts but see you're looking at giving fluids---believe me, if I can do it anyone can! I'm as clumsy and squeamish as they come! A housecall vet showed me last year without me asking otherwise I know I would never have asked/learned. I get the impression that any vet or tech worth their salt should be happy to demonstrate. (They know it's a tremendous waste of $$$ to have a vet/tech do it when you can do it yourself. Better to save the $$$ for everything else.)Like anything new, have someone experienced like eg a vet or tech or shelter volunteer show you how it's done. It really is very simple. It's not like a vein has to be found--the needles just goes under the skin--you just grasp the skin on either the left or right side of the cat, and pull it up into a "tent" shape---the demonstrator will show you where--insertthe needle, then unlock the water flow, and watch the numbers on the bag until the prescribed amount has been administered. I do it with my foster, Pookie, every 2 days, and it takes about 2 mins. It's actually quite a bonding experience, I feel. The experts say a dehydrated cat always feels immediately better. (I give Pookie a Feline Greenie treat immediately after, so that makes him feel good too. It also makes me feel good that I can do this for Pookie as I think maybe not all the shelter's foster parents have yet learned to give subQs.)Someone else on this list said recently they felt mortifiedby the early-day mistakes they made--not sure if this was in reference to subQs or something else. But that sure rang a bell with me. I either was not told at all, or it wasn't stressed, by the housecall vet that a NEW needle had to be used every time (for sharpness--just one use blunts the needle; and sterility reasons---when you withdraw a needle it hastissue on it. Someone else will put me right if I haven't quite explained this properly.) This is second nature to medical people but not necessarily to laypeople!! So I recall now with some anguish my sessions with poor Caramel, who being feral, was already stressed out by my having to catch him and pin him down (with help of friend) to give him fluids. I probably hydrated him 5 times and I don't believe I changed the needle once. This only dawned on me recently when I was being briefed by the shelter re Pookie.I felt and still feel terrible about poor Caramel. It took me a little while to get to a point with Pookie where I was only using one needle per session--sometimes I'd prick my own finger before even getting to him, which meant a change of needle was required. Or, he would move suddenly and the needle would slip out, again requiring a new needle. Something else I'll mention---the first time I had to change a bag, I was totally baffled afterdoing it because I couldn't see the fluid line in the bag, so there was no way to tell how much was being administered. The simple solution was to detach and reattach the "tubing" from the fluidbag--doing that introduced air, and that allowed the fluid line to become visible. But I'm no scientistsomeone had to tell me that. And by the time I found out what to do, I'd wasted half the bag in an effort to "find the fluid line"!Also, if everthe fluid seems not to be flowing I give the little oblong fluid reservoir a squeeze and that seems to solve that prob.What else? Well, it's a bit of a fiddle at the beginning endowed as we are with only 2 hands, but 3 areas to control---cat, needle and bag. But practice makes, if not entirely perfect, less imperfect!Good luck! It's def easier than learning to ride a bike! And a great skill for a cat mom/dad to have! Kerry PS One more thing---I hear from my shelter counsellor contact that fluids are much cheaper online. Needles too. I think I was ripped off by the housecall vet. I paid $41 for delivery of one bag.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 9:21 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need your help with Stretch Hey Wendy,Your vet will show you how to do it and tell you how much to give and how often. One bag holds 1000 mL and typically you give 100-200 mL throughout the day so a a bag will last a while.It IS hard when you first start, but you build up your confidence as you
Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
This is a Katrina rescue whose owners have not been found due to be PTS on MONDAY due to testing pos for FIV Anyone here have any ideas Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Aaron Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:50 AM To: Stealth Volunteers Subject: Re: [stealthvolunteers] >From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help This is cat that needs adoption before it is euthanized: Pretty thing LeAnne G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:34:55 -0600 From: KittiCo Cat Rescue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: URGENT NEED - Katrina Cat in Desperate Situation One of the rescued Katrina cats is going to be euthanized on Monday and we are trying to keep this from happening. When we brought back the 128 Katrina rescue cats, several rescue groups stepped forward to take 2-3 cats each (the bulk of them remained with us). Another group from this area took four cats. We have found the owners of three of them, but the fourth one has not been reunited. Here's the problem: this cat has tested positive for feline AIDS. It's a healthy cat. It's a SWEET cat. She's a loving lap cat who loves to hang out with you and watch TV. And, she's beautiful. But she has AIDS. She's about 10 years old and doesn't look her age. The only sign of her age is a few missing upper teeth. To see a picture of her go to: www.kittico.org/graphics/camille.jpg. She's a beauty! The group that took her has a policy of euthanizing cats that have tested positive for AIDS. They extended the policy because of the 90- day hold on Katrina cats, but now they need the space to rescue others. The foster who has kept her all this time can no longer keep her. They have given us until Monday morning and if we can't find a place for her to go, she will be euthanized. Not because of anything she's done. Not because she's unhealthy. But, because somewhere along the line, she picked up feline AIDS. She could possibly have been born with it. Feline AIDS is not transmittable to people. It's not transmittable to dogs. But, it is transmittable to other cats. It's not likely, but it is possible. It's normally transmitted by sex or fighting. Cats with AIDS (FIV) can live a normal life. Cats with feline leukemia usually have shortened lives, but AIDS positive cats are just like any other cats. It's like AIDS in humans . . . a secondary infection - not the AIDS - is what causes their demise. Here's how you can help. Call your Aunt who lives alone. Call your retired cousin and his wife. Call your mom. Call everybody you've ever known in your whole life. See if they have a place in their heart for a sweet, loving cat who was rescued from a horrible situation in New Orleans, kept in a loving home for several months and is now going to be killed by her rescuers. It can't hurt to try - and maybe somebody will come through and save this beautiful girl. Please email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, or call: 214-826-6903, ext. 1, if you can you help. Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Aaron Stealth Volunteer - Washington State Reuniting Katrina pets with their owners. Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group stealthvolunteers on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: Sub-Q for Stretch an update on her
Wendy,In the meantime, if I were you I would syringe some pedialyte into Stretch. In fact, I don't think it would hurt just to pour some into the water dishes so he might get some that way. The main advantage of the sub-q is it has the electrolytes. Pedialyte has those too. The other advantage is you can force the fluids with the sub-q. It would take a lot of syringing to syringe that much pedialyte into stretch, but any bit would help I'm sure.twendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Hideyo. I might need your help. I amwaiting for an email for Terrence. He emailed me thismorning and said the Rx never came, so I called thevet and the tech said that the doctor never keeps anRx pad, so he couldn't write the Rx. All he could dois sign off if the company faxes them the order. (They could have just told me that yesterday!) So Iemailed the company back and told them that's the onlyway the doc would sign off and I'm waiting to hear ifthe company will fax them. If they don't, I'll haveto cancel the order. On a positive note, when I got off work last night, Itook some tuna in to Stretch (and the other kitties ofcourse), and Stretch ate ALL that I had put on herplate (probably a 3rd of a can), and then she went tothe food bowl, and started eating dry food! I was soexcited. Her labored breathing seems to be decreasinga little each day, so maybe it's possible that she didhave pneumonia. I don't know. I just alwaysassociate pneumonia with coughing and runny nose,etc., but Stretch didn't have any of that. So we arevery hopeful now, and happy. Thanks to all of youguys who prayed for Stretch to recover. We reallyappreciate it! Maybe by Monday, we'll see a completeturn around!:)Wendy--- Hideyo Yamamoto<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Wendy, if for some reason, your vet won't do it, just let me know - I can probably order for you on line (I use a different company, but I have a prescription there already, too) and have it shipped to you so that you can get a whole case of fluid which should last for a long time... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 11:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Sub-Q for Stretch Hi guys, Well, yesterday I ran into a problem trying to get sub-Q fluids for Stretch. The vet I originally took him to charges $30/35 for a set up, which I thought was crazy. So I called another vet, who said they'd have to talk to my vet since they hadn't seen my cat, which I didn't want in case it might tick off the vet, or they'd have to see my cat, which would mean another $30 office visit on top of paying for the fluid set up. So I started looking online at the link that Belinda (I think) provided and found a really great priced company called Direct Medical, Inc. I called Terrence Henry at 800-316-4993 and spoke to him. He was VERY nice and helped me with all my questions. He directed me to their website: http://www.dmi2.com/ and I clicked on online catalog and then CRF (chronic renal failure) customers and then CRF products and I was there. I ordered one Abbott lactated ringer bag for $2, an Abbott IV set/venal set for $2.99, a 100 ct. of needles (4 varieties of guages to choose from) for $7.50, and another lactated ringer/IV tubing set with 2 needles for $3.95 (it was cheaper to do this than order 2 bags and 2 IV sets). This totalled about $16.00, which I thought was great. Shipping was another $7, and handling another $7, so after all was said and done, I still spent $30, but I have a whole bunch of needles, 2 bags, and 2 IV sets for what I would have paid for 1 set. So I think I did ok. He said it should arrive in about 2 days via UPS ground. I did have to have my vet fax over an Rx to their 800 fax number, which was a pain because that's not my vet's "usual procedure", and I am still waiting to hear if he will, but if not, I'm sure something will be worked out. Anyway, thanks to everyone for all your help with Stretch and I am feeling pretty confident about doing this. I hope she feels so much better after the first fluid. My nephew will probably freak out because he hates needles, but after he sees me do it, and sees the cat is ok, he'll be fine. Stretch was found outside playing with her sister when my nephew got off the bus yesterday, and hasn't been lying around like she was, and has been eating a little, so I know she is feeling better. Her breathing is still somewhat labored, but for now she is stable, thank goodness. Thanks again so much, :) Wendy__ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
Title: Message Where is the cat? Transport available or no? I'll fwd this to everyone I know, along with the location info. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:23 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help This is a Katrina rescue whose owners have not been found due to be PTS on MONDAY due to testing pos for FIV Anyone here have any ideas Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of AaronSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:50 AMTo: Stealth VolunteersSubject: Re: [stealthvolunteers] From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help This is cat that needs adoption before it is euthanized: Pretty thing "LeAnne G." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:34:55 -0600From: "KittiCo Cat Rescue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: URGENT NEED - Katrina Cat in Desperate SituationOne of the rescued Katrina cats is going to be euthanized on Monday andwe are trying to keep this from happening.When we brought back the 128 Katrina rescue cats, several rescue groupsstepped forward to take 2-3 cats each (the bulk of them remained withus). Another group from this area took four cats. We have found theowners of three of them, but the fourth one has not been reunited. Here's the problem: this cat has tested positive for feline AIDS. It's ahealthy cat. It's a SWEET cat. She's a loving lap cat who loves to hangout with you and watch TV. And, she's beautiful. But she has AIDS. She'sabout 10 years old and doesn't look her age. The only sign of her age isa few missing upper teeth. To see a picture of her go to: www.kittico.org/graphics/camille.jpg. She's a beauty! The group that took her has a policy of euthanizing cats that havetested positive for AIDS. They extended the policy because of the 90-day hold on Katrina cats, but now they need the space to rescue others.The foster who has kept her all this time can no longer keep her. Theyhave given us until Monday morning and if we can't find a place for herto go, she will be euthanized. Not because of anything she's done. Notbecause she's unhealthy. But, because somewhere along the line, shepicked up feline AIDS. She could possibly have been born with it.Feline AIDS is not transmittable to people. It's not transmittable todogs. But, it is transmittable to other cats. It's not likely, but it ispossible. It's normally transmitted by sex or fighting. Cats with AIDS(FIV) can live a normal life. Cats with feline leukemia usually haveshortened lives, but AIDS positive cats are just like any other cats.It's like AIDS in humans . . . a secondary infection - not the AIDS - iswhat causes their demise.Here's how you can help. Call your Aunt who lives alone. Call yourretired cousin and his wife. Call your mom. Call everybody you've everknown in your whole life. See if they have a place in their heart for asweet, loving cat who was rescued from a horrible situation in NewOrleans, kept in a loving home for several months and is now going to bekilled by her rescuers. It can't hurt to try - and maybe somebody willcome through and save this beautiful girl.Please email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, or call: 214-826-6903, ext. 1,if you can you help. Yahoo! PhotosRing in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Aaron Stealth Volunteer - Washington StateReuniting Katrina pets with their owners. Yahoo! PhotosRing in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "stealthvolunteers" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from
RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
I asked Gloria to fwd to FIV list - I am not yet on the new one. I called and committed to this kitty if no other solution can be found. It is in the Dallas area. FIV is not an issue with our rescue group - we mix negs and positives with our vet's blessing. If another solution is available it would be better on our end, but we won't let this kitty die! I left a message and will wait for a callback from them."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the cat? Transport available or no? I'll fwd this to everyone I know, along with the location info. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:23 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs helpThis is a Katrina rescue whose owners have not been found due to be PTS on MONDAY due to testing pos for FIV Anyone here have any ideas Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of AaronSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:50 AMTo: Stealth VolunteersSubject: Re: [stealthvolunteers] From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help This is cat that needs adoption before it is euthanized: Pretty thing"LeAnne G." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:34:55 -0600From: "KittiCo Cat Rescue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: URGENT NEED - Katrina Cat in Desperate SituationOne of the rescued Katrina cats is going to be euthanized on Monday andwe are trying to keep this from happening.When we brought back the 128 Katrina rescue cats, several rescue groupsstepped forward to take 2-3 cats each (the bulk of them remained withus). Another group from this area took four cats. We have found theowners of three of them, but the fourth one has not been reunited. Here's the problem: this cat has tested positive for feline AIDS. It's ahealthy cat. It's a SWEET cat. She's a loving lap cat who loves to hangout with you and watch TV. And, she's beautiful. But she has AIDS. She'sabout 10 years old and doesn't look her age. The only sign of her age isa few missing upper teeth. To see a picture of her go to: www.kittico.org/graphics/camille.jpg. She's a beauty! The group that took her has a policy of euthanizing cats that havetested positive for AIDS. They extended the policy because of the 90-day hold on Katrina cats, but now they need the space to rescue others.The foster who has kept her all this time can no longer keep her. Theyhave given us until Monday morning and if we can't find a place for herto go, she will be euthanized. Not because of anything she's done. Notbecause she's unhealthy. But, because somewhere along the line, shepicked up feline AIDS. She could possibly have been born with it.Feline AIDS is not transmittable to people. It's not transmittable todogs. But, it is transmittable to other cats. It's not likely, but it ispossible. It's normally transmitted by sex or fighting. Cats with AIDS(FIV) can live a normal life. Cats with feline leukemia usually haveshortened lives, but AIDS positive cats are just like any other cats.It's like AIDS in humans . . . a secondary infection - not the AIDS - iswhat causes their demise.Here's how you can help. Call your Aunt who lives alone. Call yourretired cousin and his wife. Call your mom. Call everybody you've everknown in your whole life. See if they have a place in their heart for asweet, loving cat who was rescued from a horrible situation in NewOrleans, kept in a loving home for several months and is now going to bekilled by her rescuers. It can't hurt to try - and maybe somebody willcome through and save this beautiful girl.Please email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, or call: 214-826-6903, ext. 1,if you can you help. Yahoo! PhotosRing in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Aaron Stealth Volunteer - Washington StateReuniting Katrina pets with their owners.Yahoo! PhotosRing in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "stealthvolunteers" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or
Re: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
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RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
Title: Message Oh, Susan---that's wonderful news. I have no Dallas contacts, so I'd ideally need to know if transport is poss before fwding. She is beautifulthose eyes.Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:40 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Crosspost: >From Kittico Katrina Cat needs helpI asked Gloria to fwd to FIV list - I am not yet on the new one. I called and committed to this kitty if no other solution can be found. It is in the Dallas area. FIV is not an issue with our rescue group - we mix negs and positives with our vet's blessing. If another solution is available it would be better on our end, but we won't let this kitty die! I left a message and will wait for a callback from them."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the cat? Transport available or no? I'll fwd this to everyone I know, along with the location info. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:23 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help This is a Katrina rescue whose owners have not been found due to be PTS on MONDAY due to testing pos for FIV Anyone here have any ideas Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of AaronSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:50 AMTo: Stealth VolunteersSubject: Re: [stealthvolunteers] From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help This is cat that needs adoption before it is euthanized: Pretty thing "LeAnne G." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:34:55 -0600From: "KittiCo Cat Rescue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: URGENT NEED - Katrina Cat in Desperate SituationOne of the rescued Katrina cats is going to be euthanized on Monday andwe are trying to keep this from happening.When we brought back the 128 Katrina rescue cats, several rescue groupsstepped forward to take 2-3 cats each (the bulk of them remained withus). Another group from this area took four cats. We have found theowners of three of them, but the fourth one has not been reunited. Here's the problem: this cat has tested positive for feline AIDS. It's ahealthy cat. It's a SWEET cat. She's a loving lap cat who loves to hangout with you and watch TV. And, she's beautiful. But she has AIDS. She'sabout 10 years old and doesn't look her age. The only sign of her age isa few missing upper teeth. To see a picture of her go to: www.kittico.org/graphics/camille.jpg. She's a beauty! The group that took her has a policy of euthanizing cats that havetested positive for AIDS. They extended the policy because of the 90-day hold on Katrina cats, but now they need the space to rescue others.The foster who has kept her all this time can no longer keep her. Theyhave given us until Monday morning and if we can't find a place for herto go, she will be euthanized. Not because of anything she's done. Notbecause she's unhealthy. But, because somewhere along the line, shepicked up feline AIDS. She could possibly have been born with it.Feline AIDS is not transmittable to people. It's not transmittable todogs. But, it is transmittable to other cats. It's not likely, but it ispossible. It's normally transmitted by sex or fighting. Cats with AIDS(FIV) can live a normal life. Cats with feline leukemia usually haveshortened lives, but AIDS positive cats are just like any other cats.It's like AIDS in humans . . . a secondary infection - not the AIDS - iswhat causes their demise.Here's how you can help. Call your Aunt who lives alone. Call yourretired cousin and his wife. Call your mom. Call everybody you've everknown in your whole life. See if they have a place in their heart for asweet, loving cat who was rescued from a horrible situation in NewOrleans, kept in a loving home for several months and is now going to bekilled by her rescuers. It can't hurt to try - and maybe somebody willcome through and save this beautiful girl.Please email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, or call: 214-826-6903, ext. 1,if you can you help. Yahoo! PhotosRing in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Aaron Stealth Volunteer - Washington StateReuniting Katrina pets with their owners.
Re: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
In a message dated 1/6/06 11:40:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I called and committed to this kitty if no other solution can be found. That's wonderful to hear... What a sweet face... Imagine, surviving the hurricane, only to end up being euthanized This poor, old girl definitely deserves to live out her golden years as a "pampered" furbaby. Bless you your group! Patti
Re: Crosspost: kittico........I will take her
Hey folks I only read half the emails... I am in mansfield between dallas and ft worth I will take her and she can live her days with me. who do I contact? see our available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 817-453-4888
RE: OT ear mite treatment
Nina, I have a whole box of Acarexx if you need it - my vet gave me a whole box at their cost so if you need it, let me know. My vet says that it should be fine to use on kittens and directions says so, too but you know me,, I am just paranoid and dont really trust everything I hear from my vets when coming to side effects on drugs (from my experience, they are way too optimistic.) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: OT ear mite treatment Hi Hideyo, I've only used Acarexx on grown kitties. I wish I could buy the stuff over the counter, it works just great with one application and I've never seen any side effects. I've never used it on kittens though. If I were you, I'd dilute it with some olive oil, (I've heard that mineral oil is not as good an option). If the nasty little buggers persist after a day, or so, you could dose again. What does your vet say? Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, I need to treat my kitten and kitties with ear mites and have a medicine called Ararrex (with IVIC something ) has anyone experience any side effects in kittens?
RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
I will post to the group after they return my call - will ask about transportation. Luckily, if all else totally fails we are close enough to drive in a weekend. Plus we have a wonderful volunteer pilot who flew 11 hours to Orlando to pick up a Katrina kitty and bring to us iin Little Rock - we flew commercial to deliver to owner in Phoenix. And he more recently flew from Little Rock to Ft. Smith AR and then to Jacksonville Fl to pick up and deliver a little blind kitten to one of our rescue group's founders who now lives in Jax -- for adoption. Talk about a real hero - this man IS."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, Susan---that's wonderful news. I have no Dallas contacts, so I'd ideally need to know if transport is poss before fwding. She is beautifulthose eyes.Kerry-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan LoeschSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:40 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs helpI asked Gloria to fwd to FIV list - I am not yet on the new one. I called and committed to this kitty if no other solution can be found. It is in the Dallas area. FIV is not an issue with our rescue group - we mix negs and positives with our vet's blessing. If another solution is available it would be better on our end, but we won't let this kitty die! I left a message and will wait for a callback from them."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the cat? Transport available or no? I'll fwd this to everyone I know, along with the location info. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ChrisSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:23 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs helpThis is a Katrina rescue whose owners have not been found due to be PTS on MONDAY due to testing pos for FIV Anyone here have any ideas Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of AaronSent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:50 AMTo: Stealth VolunteersSubject: Re: [stealthvolunteers] From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help This is cat that needs adoption before it is euthanized: Pretty thing"LeAnne G." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:34:55 -0600From: "KittiCo Cat Rescue" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: URGENT NEED - Katrina Cat in Desperate SituationOne of the rescued Katrina cats is going to be euthanized on Monday andwe are trying to keep this from happening.When we brought back the 128 Katrina rescue cats, several rescue groupsstepped forward to take 2-3 cats each (the bulk of them remained withus). Another group from this area took four cats. We have found theowners of three of them, but the fourth one has not been reunited. Here's the problem: this cat has tested positive for feline AIDS. It's ahealthy cat. It's a SWEET cat. She's a loving lap cat who loves to hangout with you and watch TV. And, she's beautiful. But she has AIDS. She'sabout 10 years old and doesn't look her age. The only sign of her age isa few missing upper teeth. To see a picture of her go to: www.kittico.org/graphics/camille.jpg. She's a beauty! The group that took her has a policy of euthanizing cats that havetested positive for AIDS. They extended the policy because of the 90-day hold on Katrina cats, but now they need the space to rescue others.The foster who has kept her all this time can no longer keep her. Theyhave given us until Monday morning and if we can't find a place for herto go, she will be euthanized. Not because of anything she's done. Notbecause she's unhealthy. But, because somewhere along the line, shepicked up feline AIDS. She could possibly have been born with it.Feline AIDS is not transmittable to people. It's not transmittable todogs. But, it is transmittable to other cats. It's not likely, but it ispossible. It's normally transmitted by sex or fighting. Cats with AIDS(FIV) can live a normal life. Cats with feline leukemia usually haveshortened lives, but AIDS positive cats are just like any other cats.It's like AIDS in humans . . . a secondary infection - not the AIDS - iswhat causes their demise.Here's how you can help. Call your Aunt who lives alone. Call yourretired cousin and his wife. Call your mom. Call everybody you've everknown in your whole life. See if they have a place in their heart for asweet, loving cat who was rescued from a horrible situation in NewOrleans, kept in a loving home for several months and is now going to bekilled by her rescuers. It can't hurt to try - and maybe somebody willcome through and save this beautiful girl.Please email: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, or call: 214-826-6903, ext. 1,if you can you help.
I will take the FIV cat
I left a message with kittico.,. where can I email them? that is messed up to put a 10 year old down for fiv,.
RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
Wow! What an awesome guy!
--- Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I will post to the group after they return my call -
will ask about transportation. Luckily, if all else
totally fails we are close enough to drive in a
weekend. Plus we have a wonderful volunteer pilot
who flew 11 hours to Orlando to pick up a Katrina
kitty and bring to us iin Little Rock - we flew
commercial to deliver to owner in Phoenix. And he
more recently flew from Little Rock to Ft. Smith AR
and then to Jacksonville Fl to pick up and deliver a
little blind kitten to one of our rescue group's
founders who now lives in Jax -- for adoption. Talk
about a real hero - this man IS.
MacKenzie, Kerry N.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh,
Susan---that's wonderful news. I have no Dallas
contacts, so I'd ideally need to know if transport
is poss before fwding. She is beautifulthose
eyes.Kerry
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Susan Loesch
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:40 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat
needs help
I asked Gloria to fwd to FIV list - I am not yet on
the new one. I called and committed to this kitty
if no other solution can be found. It is in the
Dallas area. FIV is not an issue with our rescue
group - we mix negs and positives with our vet's
blessing. If another solution is available it would
be better on our end, but we won't let this kitty
die! I left a message and will wait for a callback
from them.
MacKenzie, Kerry N.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Where is the cat? Transport available or no?
I'll fwd this to everyone I know, along with the
location info.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:23 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs
help
This is a Katrina rescue whose owners have not
been found
due to be PTS on MONDAY due to testing
pos for FIV
Anyone here have any ideas
Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Aaron
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:50 AM
To: Stealth Volunteers
Subject: Re: [stealthvolunteers] From Kittico
Katrina Cat needs help
This is cat that needs adoption before it is
euthanized: Pretty thing
LeAnne G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:34:55 -0600
From: KittiCo Cat Rescue
Subject: URGENT NEED - Katrina Cat in Desperate
Situation
One of the rescued Katrina cats is going to be
euthanized on Monday and
we are trying to keep this from happening.
When we brought back the 128 Katrina rescue cats,
several rescue groups
stepped forward to take 2-3 cats each (the bulk of
them remained with
us). Another group from this area took four cats. We
have found the
owners of three of them, but the fourth one has not
been reunited.
Here's the problem: this cat has tested positive for
feline AIDS. It's a
healthy cat. It's a SWEET cat. She's a loving lap
cat who loves to hang
out with you and watch TV. And, she's beautiful. But
she has AIDS. She's
about 10 years old and doesn't look her age. The
only sign of her age is
a few missing upper teeth. To see a picture of her
go to:
www.kittico.org/graphics/camille.jpg. She's a
beauty!
The group that took her has a policy of euthanizing
cats that have
tested positive for AIDS. They extended the policy
because of the 90-
day hold on Katrina cats, but now they need the
space to rescue others.
The foster who has kept her all this time can no
longer keep her. They
have
Re: Crosspost: kittico........I will take her
AWESOME!! This is perfect. Contact LeAnne G at 214-826-6903. I called and got answering machine and left msg. When I looked back to get the phone number I noticed an email for LeAnne -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thank you![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks I only read half the emails... I am in mansfield between dallas and ft worth I will take her and she can live her days with me. who do I contact? see our available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 817-453-4888
RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
Amen to that!!wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! What an awesome guy!--- Susan Loesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I will post to the group after they return my call - will ask about transportation. Luckily, if all else totally fails we are close enough to drive in a weekend. Plus we have a wonderful volunteer pilot who flew 11 hours to Orlando to pick up a Katrina kitty and bring to us iin Little Rock - we flew commercial to deliver to owner in Phoenix. And he more recently flew from Little Rock to Ft. Smith AR and then to Jacksonville Fl to pick up and deliver a little blind kitten to one of our rescue group's founders who now lives in Jax -- for adoption. Talk about a real hero - this man IS. "MacKenzie, Kerry
N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Oh, Susan---that's wonderful news. I have no Dallas contacts, so I'd ideally need to know if transport is poss before fwding. She is beautifulthose eyes.Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Loesch Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help I asked Gloria to fwd to FIV list - I am not yet on the new one. I called and committed to this kitty if no other solution can be found. It is in the Dallas area. FIV is not an issue with our rescue group - we mix negs and positives with our vet's blessing. If another solution is available it would be better on our end, but
we won't let this kitty die! I left a message and will wait for a callback from them. "MacKenzie, Kerry N." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: @font-face { font-family: Wingdings; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: A Yummy Apology; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION:
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due to be PTS on MONDAY due to testing pos for FIV
Anyone here have any ideas
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:50 AM To: Stealth Volunteers Subject: Re: [stealthvolunteers] From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help This is cat that needs adoption before it is euthanized: Pretty thing "LeAnne G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 18:34:55 -0600 From: "KittiCo Cat Rescue" Subject: URGENT NEED - Katrina Cat in Desperate Situation One of the rescued Katrina cats is going to be
euthanized on Monday and we are trying to keep this from happening. When we brought back the 128 Katrina rescue cats, several rescue groups stepped forward to take 2-3 cats each (the bulk of them remained with us). Another group from this area took four cats. We have found the owners of three of them, but the fourth one has not been reunited. Here's the problem: this cat has tested positive for feline AIDS. It's a healthy cat. It's a SWEET cat. She's a loving lap cat who loves to hang out with you and watch TV. And, she's beautiful. But she has AIDS. She's about 10 years old and doesn't look her age. The only sign of her age is a few missing upper teeth. To see a picture of her go to: www.kittico.org/graphics/camille.jpg. She's a beauty! The group that took her has a policy of
euthanizing cats that have tested positive for AIDS. They extended the policy because of the 90- day hold on Katrina cats, but now they need the space to rescue others. The foster who has kept her all this time can no longer keep her. They have given us until Monday morning and if we can't find a place for her to go, she will be euthanized. Not because of anything she's done. Not because she's unhealthy. But, because somewhere along the line,
I will take her....
does anyone have an email for these people I WILL TAKE THE CAT FOREVER.
Re: Crosspost: kittico........I will take her
Karen, That is so sweet of you to take her! And maybe one day her owners will be able to find her. Wouldn't that be neat! And if not, I'm sure she will be happy and content with your love and care! :) Wendy --- Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AWESOME!! This is perfect. Contact LeAnne G at 214-826-6903. I called and got answering machine and left msg. When I looked back to get the phone number I noticed an email for LeAnne -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks I only read half the emails... I am in mansfield between dallas and ft worth I will take her and she can live her days with me. who do I contact? see our available orphans at: http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html Karen 817-453-4888 __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
PLEASE: I Know many of you guys dont know me but I am willing to help any positives that are in my area..Dallas/Ft worthkeep my rescue handy please I am trying to get the fiv cat now
RE: Crosspost: kittico........I will take her
I really haven't read everything on this posting! I am so happy that Karen can take the kitty! If for some reason, if it does not work out, I will take her! Hideyo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Crosspost: kitticoI will take her Karen, That is so sweet of you to take her! And maybe one day her owners will be able to find her. Wouldn't that be neat! And if not, I'm sure she will be happy and content with your love and care! :) Wendy --- Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AWESOME!! This is perfect. Contact LeAnne G at 214-826-6903. I called and got answering machine and left msg. When I looked back to get the phone number I noticed an email for LeAnne -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks I only read half the emails... I am in mansfield between dallas and ft worth I will take her and she can live her days with me. who do I contact? see our available orphans at: http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html Karen 817-453-4888 __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help
Cool I will forward your posting to FIVcats2 yahoo group, too! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Crosspost: From Kittico Katrina Cat needs help PLEASE: I Know many of you guys dont know me but I am willing to help any positives that are in my area..Dallas/Ft worthkeep my rescue handy please I am trying to get the fiv cat now
FW: [CRF] Re: i found a kitten and ...
She is looking for a home for a kitten - HELP! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of exposing_nabet Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CRF] Re: i found a kitten and ... Okay, you guys convinced me... I took the kitty to a vet (cost me $110). Just got back. He has mange! So they gave him a shot and antibiotics and a shampoo. Vet said in two weeks he should be good as new. Now I DO NOT want to keep him. I am going to make him healthy enough so he is adoptable. I should have time in two weeks to find a no - kill place ... I live in Miami, Florida. Anyone interested in a kitty??? te --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Melinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take him to the vet's [or call first] telling them you cannot keep him and chances are they will take him in and find a home for him [our vets office has done that a number of times that I know of]. Or as suggested find a no-kill shelther to take him. What about friends and neighbors - ask them if they would like a kittne. --- exposing_nabet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot keep him since i already have two cats and a dog, both healthy. I am reluctant to take this kitty to the shelter, since he looks terrible, I don't want to take him to vet, though I should All messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] are Copyright 2006 by the original author. Do not forward or excerpt to another group or nonmember without the author's permission. Any suggestions regarding medical matters are the opinion of the author. It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to verify all treatment descriptions and advice received with a qualified veterinarian. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
I would like to donate our unused meds.
I have some meds I would like to donate if anyone is interested and could use them. I have a full bottle of Prednisone, a bottle of homeopathic immune system booster drops, a bottle of homeopathic stress relief drops, a bottle of homeopathic nasal spray, a brand new tube of Nutri-Cal vitamin gel and a brand new, never used bottle of Clavimox. We don't have any other pets so we can't use them. I would hate to see them go to waste if they might help someone else. Just let me know. Chandra Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
Chandra, were are you located at? I could use all of that for the rescue and would gladly mail you the postage to send it. I am in texas. I have heartworm positive dogs that are on prednisone and go through as much clavamox as bleach around here... see our available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 817-453-4888
Chandra
Dear Chandra, I am so sorry to hear about Buddha's quick decline and passing. I know you must be heartbroken. Losing a companion of 14 years has got to be hard. It must have been bittersweet to have your family around to distract you, yet for you to try to put on a happy face and not grieve as much; I don't know how you got through the holidays. I was a wreck when Cricket was sick and died. I don't even know the person I became during that time. Your loss puts a huge, familiar lump in my throat and I hope that over time, your grief will subside. Thinking of all the good memories and how much love he must have felt from you should help ease your pain. You're in my thoughts and prayers. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
I am in Dallas, but don't worry about the postage. I would never think of asking anyone pay for the postage. Just let me know what your address is. Chandra --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chandra, were are you located at? I could use all of that for the rescue and would gladly mail you the postage to send it. I am in texas. I have heartworm positive dogs that are on prednisone and go through as much clavamox as bleach around here... see our available orphans at: _http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html_ (http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html) Karen 817-453-4888 Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: Crosspost: kittico........I will take her
Chris and all.. I have been on a million lists and this is without a doubt the best one I have every joined. The wisdom of these folks and the support they give .. I lurk mostly too since I dont have positives at the moment but these guys are the best. Karen
Re: cost of epogen/transfusion?
Michelle, Thanks for the suggestion, but Fu is already on Prednisone to keep his cancer in remission. I will ask the vet about the dex though. My Nina takes it in pill form for her IBD and asthma. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 6, 2006 10:16 am Subject: Re: cost of epogen/transfusion? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Bonnie, Ask your vet about giving him a dexamethasone shot. It really makes them feel better, even when they are really sick. And sometimes helps with anemia. It may be contraindicated because of his kidney and thyroid problems, though, I don't know. Michelle In a message dated 1/5/2006 10:42:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fu is pretty wiped out, Michelle. He can barely move, but I think the folic acid has helped a little. When he looks like he had to go to thelittle box, I carry him there and support him while goes - or tries to go. I'm hand-feeding him a/d with Fancy Feast beef liver mixed in. I've got some beef liver on hand that I'll cook up for him later. Bonnie
RE: Great news about my court case
Hideyo-I am thrilled for you! OK, as you say, nothing is definite, BUT the direction it's going in is most definitely encouraging and gives reason to hope that it will keep going right along that way!!! (Your lawyer's name is a good omen, too, I think!) We're all right behind you--keep posting when you get news and time! lots of love, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Great news about my court case Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great news about my court case regarding the pet limit law. The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion which specifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting next Monday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges against me for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense to pursuit it. Also, the city councilor who is working on new ordinance also agrees to drop the pet limit law from her proposal - she is planning to present her new ordinance at the city councilor meeting on 18th - IF, this ordinance is passed, Albuquerque will have no more pet limit law! I am going to meet with the city councilor, and Merry, and Viqui who is on advisory board on Animal services division next week before she introduces her new ordinance so that I can share all the research I have done to back up no pet limit law in case she needs to defend it during the meeting! I am just so excited about this! Nothing is 100%, but it's definitely going for a right direction!! Thank you everyone for all your support, and I will definitely keep you posted! hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Great news about my court case
Hideyo, this is wonderful!! Way to go!!Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great newsabout my court case regarding the pet limit law.The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion whichspecifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting nextMonday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges againstme for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense topursuit it.Also, the city councilor who is working on new ordinance also agrees todrop the pet limit law from her proposal - she is planning to presenther new ordinance at the city councilor meeting on 18th - IF, thisordinance is passed, Albuquerque will have no more pet limit law! I amgoing to meet with the city councilor, and Merry, and Viqui who is onadvisory board on Animal services division next week before sheintroduces her new ordinance so that I can share all the research I havedone to back up no pet limit law in case she needs to defend it duringthe meeting!I am just so excited about this! Nothing is 100%, but it's definitelygoing for a right direction!!Thank you everyone for all your support, and I will definitely keep youposted!
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
I still have Cricket's meds. Is there an address on the website you listed that I can send them to? Also, the IR has to be refrigerated, so I am not sure sending it through the mail is a good idea. Please advise and thanks. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi wendy we do all kinds of special needs and can use just about anything. I dont know if you guys have heard about all the fires we are expecting to get overloaded again shortly many of the kill shelters are picking up strays some with burns. a friend just took a heartworm postiive pit with 15% of her body burned... any meds of anysort are appreciated. see our available orphans at: _http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html_ (http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html) Karen 817-453-4888 __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: Great news about my court case
Hideyo, Fantastic news about your court case!!! Who knew?! What a turn of events! Someone up there is looking out for you...probably all your furbabies over the Rainbow Bridge. And probably Cricket too. I am so happy for you. Please keep us posted as to the results of the new ordinance. This could be a landmark situation that helps others who rescue animals. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: Great news about my court case
WooHoo Hideyo!! _ .-. ( \ (^.^) ) ) _) (,' / ,' / ( (\( --- me doing my happy dance for you!! \_)\\ )) / , / ( ( ( ) ;) ; (_/(_/ Kat (Mew Jersey) On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great news about my court case regarding the pet limit law. The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion which specifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting next Monday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges against me for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense to pursuit it.
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
Wendy brings up a good point. The Clavimox also has to be kept refrigerated. I can only think of two options, I have several frozen ice packs, the plastic kind you put in a cooler to keep things cool, so I can wrap up the Clavimox in a plastic baggy with one or two of the packs to help it try and stay cool and mail it out today, or I can wait and drive it over sometime at the beginnig of next week. I don't know that much about Clavimox and how much it would degrade the effects if it were to get warm while in transit. You probably know more than I do, so I will leave the decision up to you. I don't mind doing either one. Just let me know, Chandra --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have Cricket's meds. Is there an address on the website you listed that I can send them to? Also, the IR has to be refrigerated, so I am not sure sending it through the mail is a good idea. Please advise and thanks. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi wendy we do all kinds of special needs and can use just about anything. I dont know if you guys have heard about all the fires we are expecting to get overloaded again shortly many of the kill shelters are picking up strays some with burns. a friend just took a heartworm postiive pit with 15% of her body burned... any meds of anysort are appreciated. see our available orphans at: _http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html_ (http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html) Karen 817-453-4888 __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
Thanks for the help wendy I sure do appreciate it for get me not 304 hillcrest st mansfield tx 76063 dont send the IR it will go bad in the travel period. You guys are fantastic
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
Chandra, how far are you from Irving? we have a petsmart adoption in the irving location Sunday 4005 airport freeway i would love to meet you... would that be more convient? Karen
Re: Buddha, Chandra and Julian
I'm sorry, I'm such an idiot! I know you know I meant that helping Buddha cross WAS the most loving thing you could do for him. N Nina wrote: Chandra and Julian, I'm so, so sorry to hear about Buddha passing. The week of him being back to his old self was such a wonderful gift for all of you! I know that you cherished every minute of it. My sweet little Molly, the second of my felv litter to pass also had a tumor behind her eye that caused it to bulge. She wasn't with me, she had been adopted out before we knew of her status. The family she went to had been struggling so hard to help her get well and were on their way to the vet's when her eye burst from the pressure of the tumor. I only tell you this so you won't ever feel that your decision to help Buddha cross was the most loving thing you could have done for him. Everyone on this list knows that it doesn't matter how long, or short our time together is, we are never ready to say goodbye to our sweet loved ones with fur. You three have such a strong connection, it lives on still. I have no doubt that Buddha will somehow make his presence known to you to let you know that he's once again, healthy, happy and has never left you. Keep your heart and mind open to the signs that he continues to love you and that someday you'll be together again. Don't be surprised if another needy angel shows up at your door. I'm betting Buddha is bragging about you in Heaven. Much love to you in your sorrow, Nina
Re: Great news about my court case
Kat that is a really cute dancing body... wish I was that inventive
RE: I would like to donate our unused meds.
Title: Message The IR is overnighted from the supplier in a Polar box -- so maybe that would work if the cost of repeating the process was feasible? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:22 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: I would like to donate our unused meds. Thanks for the help wendy I sure do appreciate it for get me not 304 hillcrest st mansfield tx 76063 dont send the IR it will go bad in the travel period. You guys are fantastic =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Great news about my court case
Hideyo, yeaa, that's great! Congratulations on hanging in there, and looks like you (and we) are going to succeed! Gloria At 12:07 PM 1/6/2006, you wrote: Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great news about my court case regarding the pet limit law. The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion which specifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting next Monday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges against me for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense to pursuit it. Also, the city councilor who is working on new ordinance also agrees to drop the pet limit law from her proposal - she is planning to present her new ordinance at the city councilor meeting on 18th - IF, this ordinance is passed, Albuquerque will have no more pet limit law! I am going to meet with the city councilor, and Merry, and Viqui who is on advisory board on Animal services division next week before she introduces her new ordinance so that I can share all the research I have done to back up no pet limit law in case she needs to defend it during the meeting! I am just so excited about this! Nothing is 100%, but it's definitely going for a right direction!! Thank you everyone for all your support, and I will definitely keep you posted!
Re: Chandra-- how is Buddha doing?
Oh my god that sounds like what Taz went through! I did choose the surgery but he wouldn't wake up after it was all over. So I had to let him go as well. Very devastating for me!!! (his story below under Pet Memorial) In a message dated 1/6/2006 9:55:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last time I posted, Buddha was having his bestweek since being diagnosed with lymphoma at thebeginning of December. He was back to his old selfand acting as if he was feeling fine, however fourdays before Christmas he took a serious turn for theworst. The tumor behind his eye quickly began tocause the eye to bulge and protrude out of the socketand the pressure it put on his little brain began toeffect his other neurological functions. Hecompletely lost his appetite, the ability to see ineither eye, and to walk. Although he was conscious,he was fairly catatonic and had pretty much completelychecked-out by that point. We talked to the vet andshe said that there was no getting better from thatpoint and also that the eye would soon either pop outon its own, or we would have to have it removed, whichwe did not want to him to have to go through. So onthe 23rd we made the excruciating decision to help himlet go. Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Great news about my court case
YAY I'm so happy for you Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Chandra-- how is Buddha doing?
Chandra, Your in my thoughts andprayers. I know exactly what your going through. Do let the tears shed. It took me a year before I could open freely and talk about Taz without crying. Take care and Hugs! Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue
Re: Chandra-- how is Buddha doing?
You are right. I read Taz's memorial and it was EXACTLY the same thing. The tumor that we couldn't get to shrink was causing a large bump above and behind his left eye. By the end, the bump was half the height of his ear. I am so sorry Taz had to endure the same thing. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh my god that sounds like what Taz went through! I did choose the surgery but he wouldn't wake up after it was all over. So I had to let him go as well. Very devastating for me!!! (his story below under Pet Memorial) In a message dated 1/6/2006 9:55:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The last time I posted, Buddha was having his best week since being diagnosed with lymphoma at the beginning of December. He was back to his old self and acting as if he was feeling fine, however four days before Christmas he took a serious turn for the worst. The tumor behind his eye quickly began to cause the eye to bulge and protrude out of the socket and the pressure it put on his little brain began to effect his other neurological functions. He completely lost his appetite, the ability to see in either eye, and to walk. Although he was conscious, he was fairly catatonic and had pretty much completely checked-out by that point. We talked to the vet and she said that there was no getting better from that point and also that the eye would soon either pop out on its own, or we would have to have it removed, which we did not want to him to have to go through. So on the 23rd we made the excruciating decision to help him let go. Terrie Mohr TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Owner/Driver Check sites for available Siameses for adoption! http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/ Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group! http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescue http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.html http://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.html Petfinder.com Adopt a Homeless Pet! http://www.petfinder.com/ http://www.felineleukemia.org/ http://www.petloss.com/ TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS https://www.paypal.com/ http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: Buddha, Chandra and Julian
Nina, Thank you so much. I am very thankful that you shared Molly's story. It makes me feel so much better about the difficult decision we made to not let Buddha get to that point. Chandra --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chandra and Julian, I'm so, so sorry to hear about Buddha passing. The week of him being back to his old self was such a wonderful gift for all of you! I know that you cherished every minute of it. My sweet little Molly, the second of my felv litter to pass also had a tumor behind her eye that caused it to bulge. She wasn't with me, she had been adopted out before we knew of her status. The family she went to had been struggling so hard to help her get well and were on their way to the vet's when her eye burst from the pressure of the tumor. I only tell you this so you won't ever feel that your decision to help Buddha cross was the most loving thing you could have done for him. Everyone on this list knows that it doesn't matter how long, or short our time together is, we are never ready to say goodbye to our sweet loved ones with fur. You three have such a strong connection, it lives on still. I have no doubt that Buddha will somehow make his presence known to you to let you know that he's once again, healthy, happy and has never left you. Keep your heart and mind open to the signs that he continues to love you and that someday you'll be together again. Don't be surprised if another needy angel shows up at your door. I'm betting Buddha is bragging about you in Heaven. Much love to you in your sorrow, Nina chandra simms wrote: Michele and all the wonderful members of this group, I am sorry I have not written in a while, but it was a very hard holiday and I haven't really had the emotional strength to post until now. The last time I posted, Buddha was having his best week since being diagnosed with lymphoma at the beginning of December. He was back to his old self and acting as if he was feeling fine, however four days before Christmas he took a serious turn for the worst. The tumor behind his eye quickly began to cause the eye to bulge and protrude out of the socket and the pressure it put on his little brain began to effect his other neurological functions. He completely lost his appetite, the ability to see in either eye, and to walk. Although he was conscious, he was fairly catatonic and had pretty much completely checked-out by that point. We talked to the vet and she said that there was no getting better from that point and also that the eye would soon either pop out on its own, or we would have to have it removed, which we did not want to him to have to go through. So on the 23rd we made the excruciating decision to help him let go. My mother lives about 45 minutes away in Denton, so we buried him in the yard at her house and decided to just spend the week there. Neither Julian or I were anxious to get home and begin the process of packing away Buddha's things. Having all the visiting family in town really helped to provide a slight distraction, especially since I couldn't go much more than five minutes without crying for the first 2 days. Although I knew this time would eventually come and I was able to gather so much strength from all the advice and good wishes from this group over the past month, I was completely unprepared for the amount of grief I felt. Since he lived so long without any symptoms I think I was in denial that the day would ever actually come. I am almost ashamed of how lucky I feel to have had him in my life for 14 years, and my heart truly bleeds for those of you who lost your friends sooner and didn't have as much time together as we did. I will be forever grateful to all the members of this list and honestly don't think I could have endured the pain that the last month brought without you. I don't know how to go about it or if it is too late, but I would like for Buddha's name to be added to next Monday's candle light memorial service. If it is still possible that is. Could someone please tell me who I should contact for that. Once again, on behalf of Buddha, Julian and myself, thank you all so much! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking of him and hoping he is still feeling better. Please give us an update when you get a chance. Having been through the rollercoaster of lymphoma several times, I really feel for you and Jen, who has Ewok, and think about Buddha and Ewok multiple times throughout the day. I hope he is still feeling well, but know there are so many ups and downs. Please let us know how he is when you get a chance. Thinking of the two of you, Michelle Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
We live in the Lakewood area of East Dallas. I will have to double check with Julian to make sure we don't have any prior obligations, and if we don't, I would be happy to take a quick trip to Irving. What time will you be there? Chandra --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chandra, how far are you from Irving? we have a petsmart adoption in the irving location Sunday 4005 airport freeway i would love to meet you... would that be more convient? Karen Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Condolences to Chandra for Buddha
Chandra, When you did not write back I feared he was not doing well. I am so very sorry. I know the grief is excruciating. And yes, you were lucky to have him in your life for 14 years. Michelle
Re: Great news about my court case
Hideyo, this is so absolutely amazing!! Yay!! And you have helped others too! Michelle
RE: Great news about my court case
Michelle, I know its a bit too early to celebrate as new ordinance is not still changed for sure and may not be passed but I have to credit you so much for the outcome of this You have been just amazingly helpful to me.. I am so grateful to have you on my side.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great news about my court case Hideyo, this is so absolutely amazing!! Yay!! And you have helped others too! Michelle
Re: Great news about my court case
No, you were the one trying to change the ordinance. All I really did was give you tips for a hearing that you lost, and for a court case that never materialized, and helped find Merry. I am so happy for you, though. Michelle In a message dated 1/6/2006 3:42:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, I know it’s a bit too early to celebrate as new ordinance is not still changed for sure and may not be passed – but I have to credit you so much for the outcome of this – You have been just amazingly helpful to me.. I am so grateful to have you on my side..
Re: Great news about my court case
Awesome news, Hideyo! Terri in NJ =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Hideyo Yamamoto To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:07 PM Subject: RE: Great news about my court case Hi, Merry (my lawyer) called me this morning to share these great newsabout my court case regarding the pet limit law.The city is going to put a hold on the ordinance portion whichspecifies how many cats you can have at the city councilor meeting nextMonday. Which means that, they are also going to drop charges againstme for both civil and criminal cases as it no longer makes sense topursuit it.Also, the city councilor who is working on new ordinance also agrees todrop the pet limit law from her proposal - she is planning to presenther new ordinance at the city councilor meeting on 18th - IF, thisordinance is passed, Albuquerque will have no more pet limit law! I amgoing to meet with the city councilor, and Merry, and Viqui who is onadvisory board on Animal services division next week before sheintroduces her new ordinance so that I can share all the research I havedone to back up no pet limit law in case she needs to defend it duringthe meeting!I am just so excited about this! Nothing is 100%, but it's definitelygoing for a right direction!!Thank you everyone for all your support, and I will definitely keep youposted!
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
Hey Chandra, I have to be at Skyline High School tomorrow for a magnet fair, and would love to donate the IR to Karen, along with the other meds for Cricket. I don't still have the original container it came in, but I do have several of those cold paks in the fridge. I need to go by Boutique pet shop tomorrow to get brine shrimp after the fair around 1:15 since I will be in the area. If you want to meet me, I'd love to get the IR to you so you can get them to Karen. Let me know. Thanks, Wendy --- chandra simms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We live in the Lakewood area of East Dallas. I will have to double check with Julian to make sure we don't have any prior obligations, and if we don't, I would be happy to take a quick trip to Irving. What time will you be there? Chandra --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chandra, how far are you from Irving? we have a petsmart adoption in the irving location Sunday 4005 airport freeway i would love to meet you... would that be more convient? Karen Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: Buddha, Chandra and Julian
Goodnight, sweet Buddha... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:47 PM Subject: Buddha, Chandra and Julian Chandra and Julian,I'm so, so sorry to hear about Buddha passing. The week of him being back to his old self was such a wonderful gift for all of you! I know that you cherished every minute of it. My sweet little Molly, the second of my felv litter to pass also had a tumor behind her eye that caused it to bulge. She wasn't with me, she had been adopted out before we knew of her status. The family she went to had been struggling so hard to help her get well and were on their way to the vet's when her eye burst from the pressure of the tumor. I only tell you this so you won't ever feel that your decision to help Buddha cross was the most loving thing you could have done for him. Everyone on this list knows that it doesn't matter how long, or short our time together is, we are never ready to say goodbye to our sweet loved ones with fur. You three have such a strong connection, it lives on still. I have no doubt that Buddha will somehow make his presence known to you to let you know that he's once again, healthy, happy and has never left you. Keep your heart and mind open to the signs that he continues to love you and that someday you'll be together again. Don't be surprised if another needy angel shows up at your door. I'm betting Buddha is bragging about you in Heaven.Much love to you in your sorrow,Ninachandra simms wrote: Michele and all the wonderful members of this group, I am sorry I have not written in a while, but it was a very hard holiday and I haven't really had the emotional strength to post until now. The last time I posted, Buddha was having his best week since being diagnosed with lymphoma at the beginning of December. He was back to his old self and acting as if he was feeling fine, however four days before Christmas he took a serious turn for the worst. The tumor behind his eye quickly began to cause the eye to bulge and protrude out of the socket and the pressure it put on his little brain began to effect his other neurological functions. He completely lost his appetite, the ability to see in either eye, and to walk. Although he was conscious, he was fairly catatonic and had pretty much completely checked-out by that point. We talked to the vet and she said that there was no getting better from that point and also that the eye would soon either pop out on its own, or we would have to have it removed, which we did not want to him to have to go through. So on the 23rd we made the excruciating decision to help him let go. My mother lives about 45 minutes away in Denton, so we buried him in the yard at her house and decided to just spend the week there. Neither Julian or I were anxious to get home and begin the process of packing away Buddha's things. Having all the visiting family in town really helped to provide a slight distraction, especially since I couldn't go much more than five minutes without crying for the first 2 days. Although I knew this time would eventually come and I was able to gather so much strength from all the advice and good wishes from this group over the past month, I was completely unprepared for the amount of grief I felt. Since he lived so long without any symptoms I think I was in denial that the day would ever actually come. I am almost ashamed of how lucky I feel to have had him in my life for 14 years, and my heart truly bleeds for those of you who lost your friends sooner and didn't have as much time together as we did. I will be forever grateful to all the members of this list and honestly don't think I could have endured the pain that the last month brought without you. I don't know how to go about it or if it is too late, but I would like for Buddha's name to be added to next Monday's candle light memorial service. If it is still possible that is. Could someone please tell me who I should contact for that. Once again, on behalf of Buddha, Julian and myself, thank you all so much! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking of him and hoping he is still feeling better. Please give us an update when you get a chance. Having been through the rollercoaster of lymphoma several times, I really feel for you and Jen, who has Ewok, and think about Buddha and Ewok multiple times throughout the day. I hope he is still feeling well, but know there are so many ups and downs. Please let us know how he is when you get a chance. Thinking of the two of you, Michelle Love is not
RE: Great news about my court case
I am so sure that your Cricket was on my side, too along with my Garfunkle, George and all the furball babies that we have encountered or have not yet encountered. I have so many sad stories how responsible cat owners had to surrender their kitties to due to this ordinance and I really hope that this will make our furrball lives better a little bit.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Great news about my court case Hideyo, Fantastic news about your court case!!! Who knew?! What a turn of events! Someone up there is looking out for you...probably all your furbabies over the Rainbow Bridge. And probably Cricket too. I am so happy for you. Please keep us posted as to the results of the new ordinance. This could be a landmark situation that helps others who rescue animals. :) Wendy __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: Great news about my court case
I also realized that the pet limit law was born with the common MISCONCEPTION that more animals cause more problems and unfortunately, lots of people think its a common SENSE, but its really common misconception. And I have stats from animal care center to prove it (80% of complaints that animal service division receive in 2004 and 2005 are from a single animal household -) I think we almost have to undo the damage caused by the misconception and re-educate them that its not true.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Great news about my court case No, you were the one trying to change the ordinance. All I really did was give you tips for a hearing that you lost, and for a court case that never materialized, and helped find Merry. I am so happy for you, though. Michelle In a message dated 1/6/2006 3:42:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle, I know its a bit too early to celebrate as new ordinance is not still changed for sure and may not be passed but I have to credit you so much for the outcome of this You have been just amazingly helpful to me.. I am so grateful to have you on my side..
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
No problem Wendy. I would be happy to pick up Cricket's meds for Karen. Just give me a call when you leave Skyline and head over to the pet store. It is just a mile or so around the lake and down the road from us so it will only take me a few minutes to get there. --- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Chandra, I have to be at Skyline High School tomorrow for a magnet fair, and would love to donate the IR to Karen, along with the other meds for Cricket. I don't still have the original container it came in, but I do have several of those cold paks in the fridge. I need to go by Boutique pet shop tomorrow to get brine shrimp after the fair around 1:15 since I will be in the area. If you want to meet me, I'd love to get the IR to you so you can get them to Karen. Let me know. Thanks, Wendy --- chandra simms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We live in the Lakewood area of East Dallas. I will have to double check with Julian to make sure we don't have any prior obligations, and if we don't, I would be happy to take a quick trip to Irving. What time will you be there? Chandra --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chandra, how far are you from Irving? we have a petsmart adoption in the irving location Sunday 4005 airport freeway i would love to meet you... would that be more convient? Karen Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
RE: Buddha, Chandra and Julian
Nina, you have such a way to express the feelings and I love it I feel so totally agree with Nina, Chandra and Julian - Buddha's soul is still right besides you and have not left you -- so don't be too lonely... I know it's painful to not to be able to hold him anymore.. but in a way, he is probably much closer to you. I still talk to my Garfunkle every day like he is still there.. for some reason, I feel his presence as he is still here.. and I know that he is.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chandra simms Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Buddha, Chandra and Julian Nina, Thank you so much. I am very thankful that you shared Molly's story. It makes me feel so much better about the difficult decision we made to not let Buddha get to that point. Chandra --- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chandra and Julian, I'm so, so sorry to hear about Buddha passing. The week of him being back to his old self was such a wonderful gift for all of you! I know that you cherished every minute of it. My sweet little Molly, the second of my felv litter to pass also had a tumor behind her eye that caused it to bulge. She wasn't with me, she had been adopted out before we knew of her status. The family she went to had been struggling so hard to help her get well and were on their way to the vet's when her eye burst from the pressure of the tumor. I only tell you this so you won't ever feel that your decision to help Buddha cross was the most loving thing you could have done for him. Everyone on this list knows that it doesn't matter how long, or short our time together is, we are never ready to say goodbye to our sweet loved ones with fur. You three have such a strong connection, it lives on still. I have no doubt that Buddha will somehow make his presence known to you to let you know that he's once again, healthy, happy and has never left you. Keep your heart and mind open to the signs that he continues to love you and that someday you'll be together again. Don't be surprised if another needy angel shows up at your door. I'm betting Buddha is bragging about you in Heaven. Much love to you in your sorrow, Nina chandra simms wrote: Michele and all the wonderful members of this group, I am sorry I have not written in a while, but it was a very hard holiday and I haven't really had the emotional strength to post until now. The last time I posted, Buddha was having his best week since being diagnosed with lymphoma at the beginning of December. He was back to his old self and acting as if he was feeling fine, however four days before Christmas he took a serious turn for the worst. The tumor behind his eye quickly began to cause the eye to bulge and protrude out of the socket and the pressure it put on his little brain began to effect his other neurological functions. He completely lost his appetite, the ability to see in either eye, and to walk. Although he was conscious, he was fairly catatonic and had pretty much completely checked-out by that point. We talked to the vet and she said that there was no getting better from that point and also that the eye would soon either pop out on its own, or we would have to have it removed, which we did not want to him to have to go through. So on the 23rd we made the excruciating decision to help him let go. My mother lives about 45 minutes away in Denton, so we buried him in the yard at her house and decided to just spend the week there. Neither Julian or I were anxious to get home and begin the process of packing away Buddha's things. Having all the visiting family in town really helped to provide a slight distraction, especially since I couldn't go much more than five minutes without crying for the first 2 days. Although I knew this time would eventually come and I was able to gather so much strength from all the advice and good wishes from this group over the past month, I was completely unprepared for the amount of grief I felt. Since he lived so long without any symptoms I think I was in denial that the day would ever actually come. I am almost ashamed of how lucky I feel to have had him in my life for 14 years, and my heart truly bleeds for those of you who lost your friends sooner and didn't have as much time together as we did. I will be forever grateful to all the members of this list and honestly don't think I could have endured the pain that the last month brought without you. I don't know how to go about it or if it is too late, but I would like for Buddha's name to be added to next Monday's candle light memorial service. If it is still possible that is. Could someone please tell me who I should contact for that. Once again, on behalf of Buddha, Julian and myself,
Re: Chandra-- how is Buddha doing?
Chandra I am so sorry about Buddha,he was so lucky to be love by the two of you.And for so long,what a lucky guy.He is with my Maizee Grace now.God Bless you and thank you for being a loving furbaby mom. Sherrychandra simms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michele and all the wonderful members of this group,I am sorry I have not written in a while, but it was avery hard holiday and I haven't really had theemotional strength to post until now. The last time I posted, Buddha was having his bestweek since being diagnosed with lymphoma at thebeginning of December. He was back to his old selfand acting as if he was feeling fine, however fourdays before Christmas he took a serious turn for theworst. The tumor behind his eye quickly began tocause the eye to bulge and protrude out of the socketand the pressure it put on his little brain began toeffect his other neurological functions. Hecompletely lost his appetite, the ability to see ineither eye, and to walk. Although he was conscious,he was fairly catatonic and had pretty much completelychecked-out by that point. We talked to the vet andshe said that there was no getting better from thatpoint and also that the eye would soon either pop outon its own, or we would have to have it removed, whichwe did not want to him to have to go through. So onthe 23rd we made the excruciating decision to help himlet go. My mother lives about 45 minutes away in Denton, so weburied him in the yard at her house and decided tojust spend the week there. Neither Julian or I wereanxious to get home and begin the process of packingaway Buddha's things. Having all the visiting familyin town really helped to provide a slight distraction,especially since I couldn't go much more than fiveminutes without crying for the first 2 days. Although I knew this time would eventually come and Iwas able to gather so much strength from all theadvice and good wishes from this group over the pastmonth, I was completely unprepared for the amount ofgrief I felt. Since he lived so long without anysymptoms I think I was in denial that the day wouldever actually come. I am almost ashamed of how lucky I feel to have hadhim in my life for 14 years, and my heart truly bleedsfor those of you who lost your friends sooner anddidn't have as much time together as we did. I will be forever grateful to all the members of thislist and honestly don't think I could have endured thepain that the last month brought without you. I don't know how to go about it or if it is too late,but I would like for Buddha's name to be added to nextMonday's candle light memorial service. If it isstill possible that is. Could someone please tell me who I should contact forthat.Once again, on behalf of Buddha, Julian and myself, thank you all so much!--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking of him and hoping he is still feeling better. Please give us an update when you get a chance. Having been through the rollercoaster of lymphoma several times, I really feel for you and Jen, who has Ewok, and think about Buddha and Ewok multiple times throughout the day. I hope he is still feeling well, but know there are so many ups and downs. Please let us know how he is when you get a chance. Thinking of the two of you, Michelle Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living.__ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
Re: Jen-- How is Ewok?
Thanks, Michelle! Yep, Ewok is on daily pred...I actually took him to the oncologist this morning (his next appointment wasn't until next week) because he wasn't feeling well and (I believe) vomited last night... :( The tumor in his belly is crazy aggressive...the oncologist gave him a round of elspar as he responded well to that one before X-mas...but now that I think about it (as he wants to see Ewok in 2 weeks), the only reason Ewok was able to go two weeks between visits was because I gave him a dex shot when he started feeling bad about a week after the elspar shot...good thing I didn't cancel his appointment for next week! ;) So I asked the oncologist what I should expect as it would seem (to me, anyway) that the abdominal tumor will eventually win out as Ewok can barely make it a week between treatments. He surprised me by saying he isn't any more pessimistic than he was a few months ago (although I would have felt better if he had said less optimistic... ;) )...The oncologist still has a few tricks up his sleeve, so as long as Ewok is game, I'll continue to tote his skinny little butt back and forth between appointments. Ewok is just so cute, he's so used to the car by now...he sits shot-gun and watches the tree-tops go by...man, I'm going to miss this little boy!! :( Warm thoughts to Lucy and Patches!! Good luck with the raw! Several of my guys really enjoy it and I do think it's better for them...I always try to repay the favor that the chicken or turkey did for my guys by rescuing any critters (except for palmetto bugs...can't bring myself to rescue them just yet) that the cats may corner (mostly lizards and snakes)...Maggie got her paws on a lizard last week and I had to remind her that the turkey she just ate gave its life so that that little lizard could lead a long, fruitful life! :) Take care, Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 5, 2006 12:25 pm Subject: Re: Jen-- How is Ewok? Jen, SO glad to hear Ewok is still doing well!! Simon responded very well to the CCNU also. After that he got Adriamycin, which he did not respond well to, and I wished I had asked the oncologist to give him more CCNU instead. I think the oncologist was afraid that without switching the drugs each time he would become resistant. But I think they take longer to become resistant to CCNU. As for the steroids, is he still getting pred pills? The Depo shot is instead of the pred pills, or should be I think. The oncologist should know when the right time is to give another Depo shot if Ewok keeps looking good and does not seem to need it badly. Patches is feeling better from antibiotics and prednisone and is scheduled to have her two canines and possibly (but hopefully not) other teeth pulled next Wednesday morning. So please say a prayer or thought or whatever strikes you best for her! Lucy is tapering off the pred herself and seems to be doing ok-- fairly solid stool, though still not entirely normal. As for feeding raw meat, I am actually about to start feeding mine, or at least Lucy and maybe Patches, a raw diet. It is recommended for cats with chronic loose stools, on the feline IBD list serve. I ordered a supplement mix to put in with ground raw meat and organs. Being a vegan this is all very difficult for me (I had a nightmare last night that I had to have Lucy killed to be fed to an animal who needed to eat her to be healthy, which I think is my guild and discomfort at buying a dead turkey to help Lucy). But I think raw is ok, and maybe better, for them. The liver shake uses raw liver in it, and most people on this list feed that to cats when they are sick. All that said, I am totally nervous about starting the raw diet because I have read in some places that it is not good for immune-compromised cats. But I figure neither is inflamed intestines or struvite crystals, which raw is supposed to fix in many cats. Thanks for the update, and may he keep going strong! Michelle In a message dated 1/5/2006 1:17:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Michelle! So far, so good...the CCNU seems to be working! His appetite is up (although he's still not eating as much as I'd like to see him eat...he's put on a little weight, but he's still probably only around 9 lbs--he weighed
Re: Jen and Michelle
Oh, dear! How did you hurt your back, Nina? These days I'm injuring myself just getting out of bed in the morning...Take care of yourself and thanks for the email! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, January 5, 2006 7:58 pm Subject: Jen and Michelle Hello Ladies, I'm so pleased to hear how well Ewok, Lucy and Patches are doing! I've pulled my darn back so I'm not able to keep up with emails, just wanted you to know how thrilled I am to hear your guys are doing well. Michelle, besides your concerns about the poor turkey, I wouldn't worry too much about feeding raw. I'm sure you are going to be purchasing the best quality, freshest meats you can find and will be careful of how they are stored and served. There shouldn't be any worries about contamination under those circumstances. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jen, SO glad to hear Ewok is still doing well!! Simon responded very well to the CCNU also. After that he got Adriamycin, which he did not respond well to, and I wished I had asked the oncologist to give him more CCNU instead. I think the oncologist was afraid that without switching the drugs each time he would become resistant. But I think they take longer to become resistant to CCNU. As for the steroids, is he still getting pred pills? The Depo shot is instead of the pred pills, or should be I think. The oncologist should know when the right time is to give another Depo shot if Ewok keeps looking good and does not seem to need it badly. Patches is feeling better from antibiotics and prednisone and is scheduled to have her two canines and possibly (but hopefully not) other teeth pulled next Wednesday morning. So please say a prayer or thought or whatever strikes you best for her! Lucy is tapering off the pred herself and seems to be doing ok-- fairly solid stool, though still not entirely normal. As for feeding raw meat, I am actually about to start feeding mine, or at least Lucy and maybe Patches, a raw diet. It is recommended for cats with chronic loose stools, on the feline IBD list serve. I ordered a supplement mix to put in with ground raw meat and organs. Being a vegan this is all very difficult for me (I had a nightmare last night that I had to have Lucy killed to be fed to an animal who needed to eat her to be healthy, which I think is my guild and discomfort at buying a dead turkey to help Lucy). But I think raw is ok, and maybe better, for them. The liver shake uses raw liver in it, and most people on this list feed that to cats when they are sick. All that said, I am totally nervous about starting the raw diet because I have read in some places that it is not good for immune-compromised cats. But I figure neither is inflamed intestines or struvite crystals, which raw is supposed to fix in many cats. Thanks for the update, and may he keep going strong! Michelle In a message dated 1/5/2006 1:17:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Michelle! So far, so good...the CCNU seems to be working! His appetite is up (although he's still not eating as much as I'd like to see him eat...he's put on a little weight, but he's still probably only around 9 lbs--he weighed around 14 before this all started) and his energy level or old-self-self is back...he even felt good enough to wrestle a little with his buddy (Hermes--who has been waiting patiently for Ewok to feel up to playing) yesterday for the first time in about a month! I'm still watching him like a hawk as the oncologist won't be able to give him another treatment until next Friday. Ewok didn't eat much this morning (although he eagerly scarfed down some raw turkey--I know raw is probably a no-no, but I'm just thrilled to see him eat anything on his own). He's out and about, though...not hiding in the closet like he usually does when he's not feeling well. I haven't used dex or the combo shot since Christmas...but I know my regular vet is just around the corner in case I need anything...I'm hoping the steroid shots will be an option if Ewok starts feeling bad again before his oncologist's appointment! Fingers
Re: Jen-- How is Ewok?
Jen, You might want to stop the pred and give dex/depo shots instead. The depo is instead of pred, and is stronger and longer lasting. The fact that Ewok went two weeks or so without needing another depo shot says to me that he is not near the end yet. I would strongly suggest, if he is still not well tomorrow, taking him to the local vet and getting another dex/depo shot (or if all you got before was a dex shot, to ask for a combo dex/depo shot). Two weeks is not too soon for that when they have cancer. If you do these shots instead of pred, he will eventually need them every few days in order to keep feeling good, and that means it is getting closer to the end. But two weeks is not that short a time to need another one, in terms of lymphoma. So I would do it. Here's hoping Ewok feels better soon, Michelle
Re: Chandra-- how is Buddha doing?
Oh, Chandra...I'm so sorry to hear about Buddha! We're battling lymphoma here, too, and the emotional roller-coaster is really starting to take its toll. I'm ecstatic beyond belief one moment when I can see his old inquisitive, mischievious self in his eyes...and bawling the next when I imagine a future without him. Please know that you are in my thoughts...may Buddha find his way home swiftly... Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: chandra simms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 6, 2006 11:55 am Subject: Re: Chandra-- how is Buddha doing? Michele and all the wonderful members of this group, I am sorry I have not written in a while, but it was a very hard holiday and I haven't really had the emotional strength to post until now. The last time I posted, Buddha was having his best week since being diagnosed with lymphoma at the beginning of December. He was back to his old self and acting as if he was feeling fine, however four days before Christmas he took a serious turn for the worst. The tumor behind his eye quickly began to cause the eye to bulge and protrude out of the socket and the pressure it put on his little brain began to effect his other neurological functions. He completely lost his appetite, the ability to see in either eye, and to walk. Although he was conscious, he was fairly catatonic and had pretty much completely checked-out by that point. We talked to the vet and she said that there was no getting better from that point and also that the eye would soon either pop out on its own, or we would have to have it removed, which we did not want to him to have to go through. So on the 23rd we made the excruciating decision to help him let go. My mother lives about 45 minutes away in Denton, so we buried him in the yard at her house and decided to just spend the week there. Neither Julian or I were anxious to get home and begin the process of packing away Buddha's things. Having all the visiting family in town really helped to provide a slight distraction, especially since I couldn't go much more than five minutes without crying for the first 2 days. Although I knew this time would eventually come and I was able to gather so much strength from all the advice and good wishes from this group over the past month, I was completely unprepared for the amount of grief I felt. Since he lived so long without any symptoms I think I was in denial that the day would ever actually come. I am almost ashamed of how lucky I feel to have had him in my life for 14 years, and my heart truly bleeds for those of you who lost your friends sooner and didn't have as much time together as we did. I will be forever grateful to all the members of this list and honestly don't think I could have endured the pain that the last month brought without you. I don't know how to go about it or if it is too late, but I would like for Buddha's name to be added to next Monday's candle light memorial service. If it is still possible that is. Could someone please tell me who I should contact for that. Once again, on behalf of Buddha, Julian and myself, thank you all so much! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking of him and hoping he is still feeling better. Please give us an update when you get a chance. Having been through the rollercoaster of lymphoma several times, I really feel for you and Jen, who has Ewok, and think about Buddha and Ewok multiple times throughout the day. I hope he is still feeling well, but know there are so many ups and downs. Please let us know how he is when you get a chance. Thinking of the two of you, Michelle Love is not necessary to life, but it is what makes life worth living. __ Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
Re: Great news about my court case
wonderful news, hideyo! -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: Chandra-- how is Buddha doing?
aw, chandra, i'm so sorry. i'm glad that you and julian got to share so much wonderful time with him, and that he was blessed with your love--throughout the good times, and when it mattered so much, at the end of his journey here. GLOW to heal your hearts... thank you for sharing some of his life with us.-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: I would like to donate our unused meds.
I cant thank both of you enoughI need all the help I can get right now. Chandra, I will have scooter with me just to hang out he is the tiny doxie we recently raised the money for his cartwhat an awesome feeling to watch this boy come out of his shell and play he gets around now like nothing is wrong... I will be at petsmart Sunday around 1200 at the airport freeway location. I feel blessed just to know you guys... see our available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 817-453-4888
Re: Fu's red cell blood count
I have been thinking a lot about Fu, and I read the info on the site, emailed by someone else, saying that Tapazol can cause anemia and kidney damage. I am thinking there is a good chance that this is what has happened to Fu. I am wondering if it would make sense to decrease or stop the Tapazol, since the info said that such side effects stop after the drug is stopped. Our cat Percy was hyperthyroid for several years before she died at a month short of 20, and did not get any treatment for it because she also had slight kidney problems and the vet said the two would keep each other in check. She was horribly thin and ate a tremendous amount for her size, but lived quite happily like that for most of her elderly years. We finally started her on Tapazol when she was so think we could not believe she could live that way, and she died two days after starting it, and we always wondered if the meds did it. Anyway, what I am trying to say, is that the effects of hyperthyroidism may be less fatal, or fatal in a slower way, than the anemia if that is coming from the Tapazol, so it might be worth trying him off it. Michelle
Re: Fu's red cell blood count
I should have said in the last email that I meant to talk to the vet about it, or to people on the feline hyper-t group, not to just stop it because it may need to be tapered or may not be possible at all. Michelle
Re: Fu's red cell blood count
Michelle, Fu's been off the tapazole for about two days now, at the vet's suggestion. Thanks for thinking of him. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, January 6, 2006 8:59 pm Subject: Re: Fu's red cell blood count To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I have been thinking a lot about Fu, and I read the info on the site, emailed by someone else, saying that Tapazol can cause anemia and kidney damage. I am thinking there is a good chance that this is what has happened to Fu. I am wondering if it would make sense to decrease or stop the Tapazol, since the info said that such side effects stop after the drug is stopped. Our cat Percy was hyperthyroid for several years before she died at a month short of 20, and did not get any treatment for it because she also had slight kidney problems and the vet said the two would keep each other in check. She was horribly thin and ate a tremendous amount for her size, but lived quite happily like that for most of her elderly years. We finally started her on Tapazol when she was so think we could not believe she could live that way, and she died two days after starting it, and we always wondered if the meds did it. Anyway, what I am trying to say, is that the effects of hyperthyroidism may be less fatal, or fatal in a slower way, than the anemia if that is coming from the Tapazol, so it might be worth trying him off it. Michelle
Re: Fu's red cell blood count
Not any better though? Michelle In a message dated 1/6/2006 10:19:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michelle,Fu's been off the tapazole for about two days now, at the vet's suggestion.Thanks for thinking of him.Bonnie
Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?
I picked up a vial of Epogen for Fu tonight. The vet explained how to give it to him over the phone and the pharmacist was also very nice and spent some time showing me how to go about it. My question is...is it possible for there to be an immediate bad reaction? If so, I'll wait until morning when I can rush him to the vet. The pharmacist said I could call her tonight for another half hour (until 10pm CST) or she'll be available all weekend. I'm a little fearful and am thinking I might wait for tomorrow morning, but my little old fellow is so weak. So now I'll go walk Jasmine, our Katrina orphan and check for replies when we get back. Bonnie Thanks for your kind thoughts of my 19 year-old with many ailments, Bonnie and the Foozer
Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next?
I think, but am not positive, that it normally takes months for an adverse reaction to occur. But I would be afraid that any medicine could have an adverse reaction on Fu, given his age and condition. However, Epogen also takes a while to show any good effects, and Fu is already doing so poorly, that a part of me thinks you should just give it to him now. But maybe it is wise to wait until morning. Poor guy. But Bonnie, I hope you realize, even though it does not make this any easier to bear, that it is a miracle for Fu to live so long. He is like my friend Al, who died two years ago today a day short of his 98th birthday. I was with him on his last day, and I did not want him to go. But he was ready, and unafraid. He used to want to talk to me about death, as he felt ready and was very curious about what it would be like, and I was so freaked out at the thought of him dying that I could not talk about it and would tell him I did not think it was going to happen anytime soon. I wish now that I could have just dealt with it and talked to him about it, because he was ready and wanted to discuss it. I am not saying this because I think you ought to stop trying to make Fu better-- I am very aggressive in trying to make things better, and have always hated anyone saying that I should not try due to age or something like that (I almost punched the doctor when I took Al to the emergency room, three months before his death, and the doctor asked him if he wanted to be treated and, when Al said he did, commented that many people his age do not and are just ready to go!). I am just saying this because I think it is truly amazing that Fu has done as well as he has, that he has fought off so many conditions, and that you are incredible, absolutely incredible, for getting him this far. I used to think that seeing Percy get very old and die would be impossible to bear, having known her since I was 12. I used to be so fearful of losing her when I would see her at my parents'. But after adopting my positives and losing Josephine at 3 and Buddy at 1.5 years, I started looking at Percy with a sense of awe and gratitude that she had made it so far, and that she was going to die at the end of her life, the way things are supposed to be. I have been wanting to say something like this to you for a few days, but have had difficulty figuring out how to word it, because I do not want it to be taken as castigation in any way for your attempts to help Fu. While 19 is extremely old, I have heard of cats living into their 20's, and I think every cat should be given that chance. Michelle In a message dated 1/6/2006 10:28:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I picked up a vial of Epogen for Fu tonight. The vet explained how togive it to him over the phone and the pharmacist was also very nice andspent some time showing me how to go about it. My question is...is it possible for there to be an immediate badreaction? If so, I'll wait until morning when I can rush him to the vet.The pharmacist said I could call her tonight for another half hour(until 10pm CST) or she'll be available all weekend. I'm a littlefearful and am thinking I might wait for tomorrow morning, but my littleold fellow is so weak.So now I'll go walk Jasmine, our Katrina orphan and check for replieswhen we get back.Bonnie
Re: Have epogen for Fu - what to do next? (on death and dying)
Michelle, I think it was brave of you to put your thoughts into words and send them to Bonnie. It sometimes helps to have others comment on their own reactions to death and dying. Our western society is so intent on evading thoughts about death, let alone discussions about it. Thank you very much for sharing your experience with your elderly friend. It may give someone else the courage to discuss it with a loved one in similar circumstances. We were just talking about how special this list is, how sensitive to each other's needs and how supportive we are to each other. I think that comes from sharing the common bond of grief and our close proximity to death and disease. It certainly doesn't stop us from fighting with every fiber of our being to cheat it when we can, but it's become impossible for us to hide from death, and therefore we're more apt to face it and try to learn how to deal with it's inevitability in a more open manner. At least I know that is what has happened with me. I was just telling Kerry off-list that there are times when I feel I need a break from our loving group because each and every fur child's struggle effects me so deeply. The benefits so out weigh the pain, that I can't imagine leaving you. It's the same with our frail little angels, I would never trade knowing and loving them to spare the anguish of losing them. Much love to you all, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think, but am not positive, that it normally takes months for an adverse reaction to occur. But I would be afraid that any medicine could have an adverse reaction on Fu, given his age and condition. However, Epogen also takes a while to show any good effects, and Fu is already doing so poorly, that a part of me thinks you should just give it to him now. But maybe it is wise to wait until morning. Poor guy. But Bonnie, I hope you realize, even though it does not make this any easier to bear, that it is a miracle for Fu to live so long. He is like my friend Al, who died two years ago today a day short of his 98th birthday. I was with him on his last day, and I did not want him to go. But he was ready, and unafraid. He used to want to talk to me about death, as he felt ready and was very curious about what it would be like, and I was so freaked out at the thought of him dying that I could not talk about it and would tell him I did not think it was going to happen anytime soon. I wish now that I could have just dealt with it and talked to him about it, because he was ready and wanted to discuss it. I am not saying this because I think you ought to stop trying to make Fu better-- I am very aggressive in trying to make things better, and have always hated anyone saying that I should not try due to age or something like that (I almost punched the doctor when I took Al to the emergency room, three months before his death, and the doctor asked him if he wanted to be treated and, when Al said he did, commented that many people his age do not and are just ready to go!). I am just saying this because I think it is truly amazing that Fu has done as well as he has, that he has fought off so many conditions, and that you are incredible, absolutely incredible, for getting him this far. I used to think that seeing Percy get very old and die would be impossible to bear, having known her since I was 12. I used to be so fearful of losing her when I would see her at my parents'. But after adopting my positives and losing Josephine at 3 and Buddy at 1.5 years, I started looking at Percy with a sense of awe and gratitude that she had made it so far, and that she was going to die at the end of her life, the way things are supposed to be. I have been wanting to say something like this to you for a few days, but have had difficulty figuring out how to word it, because I do not want it to be taken as castigation in any way for your attempts to help Fu. While 19 is extremely old, I have heard of cats living into their 20's, and I think every cat should be given that chance. Michelle In a message dated 1/6/2006 10:28:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I picked up a vial of Epogen for Fu tonight. The vet explained how to give it to him over the phone and the pharmacist was also very nice and spent some time showing me how to go about it. My question is...is it possible for there to be an immediate bad reaction? If so, I'll wait until morning when I can rush him to the vet. The pharmacist said I could call her tonight for another half hour (until 10pm CST) or she'll be available all weekend. I'm a little fearful and am thinking I might wait for tomorrow morning, but my little old fellow is so weak. So now I'll go walk Jasmine, our Katrina orphan and check for replies when we get back. Bonnie
