Re: Patti could use your prayers

2006-07-13 Thread Gina WN
Patti, I don't know you as I am new to the group, but you are in my prayers.Gina  Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello group,I got the following email from Patti this morning. I had hoped that she was busy with other things and was just not in touch. I was able to speak to her on the phone and she's in really rough shape. She was in a terrible car accident. She was in a coma, but because of her brain injuries is having a hard time remembering things, so she couldn't tell me for how long. She said she can remember her current pets and things from 20 years ago, but she can't remember other pets she has lost. They are hoping her memory will return as she heals. She's lost her front teeth, her right cheek was crushed, broken ribs, brain and spinal
 injuries, loss of memory, numbness on the left side of her body and so much pain! She sure could use your good thoughts and prayers. She's having a hard time reading the posts because of her vision, but she did see my post asking about her. She kept repeating how you just never know what each day will bring. To add to her troubles, her ex-husband died of a heart attack while she was in the coma. I asked her if it would be okay to let everyone know what she's going through and she welcomed your prayers for her recovery. It's so true. You just never know...Blessings to everyone, please keep safe,Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dear Nina,  I had a car accident
 May 17 and was near death. Bad brain injury  spinal probs. Just got home from hosp.  I am not doing as I though. My vision is damaged too. I really am lucky to be here. (?)  I was not able to rad all mail..  Sorry.   Hope all is well with you.  SSay a prayer for mr. I need it.  Love, PattiNo heaven wil not ever Heaven be Unless my cats are there to welcome me.--epitaph in a pet cemetery  Tiggertales ~ a site about our beloved felines  
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2006-07-13 Thread Sherry DeHaan
I am so sorry to hear about your terrible accident,I have you in my thoughts and prayers for a full and speedyrecovery. You are one of the firstof many wonderfulpeople to welcome me to this group.I have kept one of your messages to me about Maizee,it made me feel a little better about everything that I had done for my sweet girl.I thank you and everyone here for that.God bless you.  Sherry 
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Patti

2006-07-13 Thread TatorBunz


Patti,
 I'm so sorry about your accident! 
You are so very lucky to be here and overcome your obstacles at this point. God has a purpose for you and he knows your a fighter for life.
I don't know what I can offer to help you, since I'm not in the position as well after having major surgery a few days ago. (reconstructive foot surgery)
My time is limited on how long I use the internet having problems sitting still and it hurts like hell. Normally, I can withstand pain but not on this one. Pain meds aren't really helping either.
Believe me, if we are within distance as a group/family please do let us know if there is anything we can do to help you. I have always said this was my other family this being such a caring and loving bunch of people.
You have always been there in the time of need when I needed it.
Don't be afraid to ask us if there is anything we can do to help you.
Your in my thoughts and prayers!
If you need to talk please feel free to call me...I'm here for you!
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To Patti

2006-07-13 Thread wendy
I'm so sorry to hear about your accident and your
ex-husband.  I know you must be reeling from all this,
so just know that we're out here praying for you. 
Hang in there girl!  It will get better!

:)
Wendy

--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello group,
 I got the following email from Patti this morning. 
 I had hoped that she 
 was busy with other things and was just not in
 touch.  I was able to 
 speak to her on the phone and she's in really rough
 shape.  She was in a 
 terrible car accident.  She was in a coma, but
 because of her brain 
 injuries is having a hard time remembering things,
 so she couldn't tell 
 me for how long.  She said she can remember her
 current pets and things 
 from 20 years ago, but she can't remember other pets
 she has lost.  They 
 are hoping her memory will return as she heals. 
 She's lost her front 
 teeth, her right cheek was crushed, broken ribs,
 brain and spinal 
 injuries, loss of memory, numbness on the left side
 of her body and so 
 much pain!  She sure could use your good thoughts
 and prayers.  She's 
 having a hard time reading the posts because of her
 vision, but she did 
 see my post asking about her.  She kept repeating
 how you just never 
 know what each day will bring.  To add to her
 troubles, her ex-husband 
 died of a heart attack while she was in the coma.  I
 asked her if it 
 would be okay to let everyone know what she's going
 through and she 
 welcomed your prayers for her recovery.  It's so
 true.  You just never 
 know...
 Blessings to everyone, please keep safe,
 Nina
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dear Nina,
  I had a car accident May 17 and was near death. 
 Bad brain injury  
  spinal probs.  Just got home from hosp.  I am not
 doing as I though.  
  My vision is damaged too.  I really am lucky to be
 here. (?)
  I was not able to rad all mail..
  Sorry. 
  Hope all is well with you.
  SSay a prayer for mr.  I need it.
  Love, Patti
 
 


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To Nina and others who read this thread: male calico and black girl kittens

2006-07-13 Thread wendy
I called the woman who posted about the calico male
and black female and she runs a rescue in Arlington,
right next to Dallas.  I was upset that she left her
post the way she did (ie. it's over).  She told me
that she did pts the kittens, which of course, upset
me to hear.  I asked her to please not leave us
hanging like that again as it was upsetting for us to
read that and not know what she meant.  I could hear
in her voice a lot of frustration at trying to get
them adopted out and that one of her personal cats had
contracted the FeLV from the kittens, according to
her.  She had bottle fed the two kittens and had had
them for a year, so she was clearly upset about the
situation.  She did not want to pts and said that she
had tried to get them adopted out for months, but was
concerned for all the other cats.  She did say that
later an IFA showed that her personal cat was
negative, so that's a good thing.  I told her a little
about what we've found out here about FeLV and urged
her to post back if she came across any more FeLV
positives in her rescue before pts.  I know this will
put your minds a little at rest, unrestfully.  I hope
we don't get anymore of these posts because they are
upsetting!

Wendy

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Re: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee

2006-07-13 Thread wendy
Please keep us posted on Madison Lee.  I hope she gets
good news!

:)
Wendy

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 same holds true for Madison.
 
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Re: Sam

2006-07-13 Thread Barb Moermond
It is so good to hear from you Helene! We've missed you!Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi, all! Though a longtime member of the list, have not communicated in a long time. I won't let that happen again.There were several questions-one from Michelle- about whether Sam was always positive. I don't think so. His mother, Delilah is neg. They came to me from a rescue place in 1993. I was assured that the had all of their vaccines- I had written documentation- so until 1999 they received routine vaccines yearly. In 1999 to my shock
 and dismay Sam tested positive (then we hadseveral mishaps, incorrect testing, andfaulty knowledge on the vet's part) and there you go.He is not an outside cat except when we go on the patio together.Got him into remission finally after a year of touch and go-hard work and love, etc..and words of wisdom from the FELV list.He has been fine until 3 weeks ago, when previous symptoms recurred. I give him all of his meds and fluids at home with my wonderful vet's blessing.   I really just thought the rescue remedy drops might make things betterHelene - here is what he is currently on:  SAMMY’S MEDS: (CURRENT 6/30/06)½ TAURINE PO DAILY   WINSTROL 2 MG PO 2X WK (*TUES/SAT)   B-COMPLEX ( PETTINIC) 2 CC PO 1X DAY   INTERFERON 1CC PO 1X DAY   7 DAYS ON-7 DAYS OFF  VIT B12 .25 CC 1X WK SUBCU ( *TUESDAY)   PROCRIT.07 CC 3X WK SUBCU. (140 mg.)(* MON-WEDS-FRI) This had been discontinued, now restarted.  LAXATONE ONE DOLLOP EVERY 2-3 DAYSBolus of 100cc Ringer’s Lactate subcu with # 21 gauge 1 “ needle daily He and Delilah also drink filtered water.  Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should impress.  Merely living his life, doing what
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Re: To Nina and others who read this thread: male calico and black girl kittens

2006-07-13 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



I know Carrie personally and I am shocked and surprised. You know I am 
disappointed with this entire state and the attitude towards animals. Animal 
controls shooting strays, gas chambers.just the fact you can shoot a dog if 
its treat to chickens...why I am surprised they have this attitude towards 
positives I will never know. I don't know any rescue people in this area with a 
open mind about positives. But then again Texas executes more people then the 
next five states combined. Its about time they come out of the dark ages. I am 
moving back east to be with my kids and hopefully its still the south but maybe 
they will have a better attitude. I offered to fly my vet on my buddy passes to 
a felv seminar and he declined. They simply are not interested. I am from NY and 
they say we are cold and cruel but never in my life have I ever been in a state 
that has little regard for human or animal life. Write a hot check any you wont 
see the light of day for a long time but commit animal abuse and you might get 
probation.sorry for venting. I watched the news last night about a guy with 
a bunch of wolf hybrids. breeding them of course. They had films of the wolves 
fightingthe great state of Texas has declared that "they are just being 
wolves and doing the same thing they would be doing in the wild." mean while the 
neighbors cant get any sleep with all the noise. BREEDING WOLVES NEEDS TO BE 
ILLEGAL. There is something seriously wrong with these people. The state seems 
to think if they have food water and shade the man has a right to make a 
living.
God help these people for they know not what they do. 
Karen

God help them all


Re: To Nina and others who read this thread: male calico and black girlkittens

2006-07-13 Thread Kat

Sleep soft dear little calico male and black female kitties...

You are now playing with our other precious fur-kids,
delighting the angels with your antics and your love.

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, wendy wrote:

 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:44:15 -0700 (PDT)
 From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: To Nina and others who read this thread: male calico and black
 girlkittens

 I called the woman who posted about the calico male
 and black female and she runs a rescue in Arlington,
 right next to Dallas.  I was upset that she left her
 post the way she did (ie. it's over).  She told me
 that she did pts the kittens, which of course, upset
 me to hear.  I asked her to please not leave us
 hanging like that again as it was upsetting for us to
 read that and not know what she meant.  I could hear
 in her voice a lot of frustration at trying to get
 them adopted out and that one of her personal cats had
 contracted the FeLV from the kittens, according to
 her.  She had bottle fed the two kittens and had had
 them for a year, so she was clearly upset about the
 situation.  She did not want to pts and said that she
 had tried to get them adopted out for months, but was
 concerned for all the other cats.  She did say that
 later an IFA showed that her personal cat was
 negative, so that's a good thing.  I told her a little
 about what we've found out here about FeLV and urged
 her to post back if she came across any more FeLV
 positives in her rescue before pts.  I know this will
 put your minds a little at rest, unrestfully.  I hope
 we don't get anymore of these posts because they are
 upsetting!

 Wendy

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Patty

2006-07-13 Thread roxanne allard






Patty-know that you are in my heart and prayers for a speedy recovery. Take care.

Roxanne









Karen and venting

2006-07-13 Thread Nina




Karen,
You go ahead and vent. I lived in Texas for two years in my youth and
that was enough for the rest of my life. There are good people, as
well as thoughtless ones there too, some of our list members are from
Texas, after all, but I know what a Hell it is to be surrounded by
ignorant, irresponsible humans. I live in CA, a fairly progressive
state, but my immediate neighborhood is a nightmare for animal care and
concern. My head is bloody from banging it against brick walls trying
to educate people here. I do so pray that the next place you find
yourself in surrounds you with loving, like minded people. It's my
dream too. Texas will be losing a champion for good, when they lose
you.
Take heart, you are not alone,
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  I know Carrie personally and I am shocked and surprised. You
know I am disappointed with this entire state and the attitude towards
animals. Animal controls shooting strays, gas chambers.just the
fact you can shoot a dog if its treat to chickens...why I am surprised
they have this attitude towards positives I will never know. I don't
know any rescue people in this area with a open mind about positives.
But then again Texas executes more people then the next five states
combined. Its about time they come out of the dark ages. I am moving
back east to be with my kids and hopefully its still the south but
maybe they will have a better attitude. I offered to fly my vet on my
buddy passes to a felv seminar and he declined. They simply are not
interested. I am from NY and they say we are cold and cruel but never
in my life have I ever been in a state that has little regard for human
or animal life. Write a hot check any you wont see the light of day for
a long time but commit animal abuse and you might get
probation.sorry for venting. I watched the news last night about a
guy with a bunch of wolf hybrids. breeding them of course. They had
films of the wolves fightingthe great state of Texas has declared
that "they are just being wolves and doing the same thing they would be
doing in the wild." mean while the neighbors cant get any sleep with
all the noise. BREEDING WOLVES NEEDS TO BE ILLEGAL. There is something
seriously wrong with these people. The state seems to think if they
have food water and shade the man has a right to make a living.
  God help these people for they know not what they do. 
  Karen
  
  God help them all
  




Re: To Nina and others who read this thread: male calico and black girl kittens

2006-07-13 Thread Tad Burnett




Hey Karen
 I just want to add that I know of 3 county shelters that took the
time themselves
to find special homes for FeLV+ cats... Road Island, New York State and
my own
Vermont... 
Tad

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  I know Carrie personally and I am shocked and surprised. You
know I am disappointed with this entire state and the attitude towards
animals. Animal controls shooting strays, gas chambers.just the
fact you can shoot a dog if its treat to chickens...why I am surprised
they have this attitude towards positives I will never know. I don't
know any rescue people in this area with a open mind about positives.
But then again Texas executes more people then the next five states
combined. Its about time they come out of the dark ages. I am moving
back east to be with my kids and hopefully its still the south but
maybe they will have a better attitude. I offered to fly my vet on my
buddy passes to a felv seminar and he declined. They simply are not
interested. I am from NY and they say we are cold and cruel but never
in my life have I ever been in a state that has little regard for human
or animal life. Write a hot check any you wont see the light of day for
a long time but commit animal abuse and you might get
probation.sorry for venting. I watched the news last night about a
guy with a bunch of wolf hybrids. breeding them of course. They had
films of the wolves fightingthe great state of Texas has declared
that "they are just being wolves and doing the same thing they would be
doing in the wild." mean while the neighbors cant get any sleep with
all the noise. BREEDING WOLVES NEEDS TO BE ILLEGAL. There is something
seriously wrong with these people. The state seems to think if they
have food water and shade the man has a right to make a living.
  God help these people for they know not what they do. 
  Karen
  
  God help them all
  




OT: FIP worry

2006-07-13 Thread Gary Murphy



Thank you, Kat, Tad, Chris and Hideyofor helping to calm me down. Reading of Patti's car accident also helped me put my little drama into perspective. Prayers to her and her fur babies. You just never know...
Temping everyone yesterday was quite the experience!My husband is dog/house sitting for his brother and wasn't home to help temp, so I tried to manage the four little wrigglers on my own. I had to do Dash and Will Feral twice because they wiggled right off the thermometer before it beeped. Moxie was not too bad, she doesn't care for too much contact, tolerates petting but doesn't enjoy it. She struggled a little, then resigned herself to it while giving me her cross little stare, just waiting for me to quit touching her. And then there was Scooter. He was laying on his side on top of his carpeted hidey-hole thing. He is the most jealousbaby, cries when he sees the others being petted. I just petted him and talked baby-talk to him and he was so happy he didn't even seem to notice the thermometer. No struggling at all. He got big brownie pointstowards"new favorite" with me. Anyway, they were all 101 or slightly less, so I feel much better. I've also read up more online.I am just going to take it a little slower on their vaccines and spay/neuters, to avoid too much stress at once. Their next appointment inAugust was for 2nd FeLV Elisa's,1st FeLV vaccine, Rabies, and surgery. I think now I will give them at least acouple of weeks to recover from the vaccines before starting surgeries.And a couple of weeks to recover from the surgery before slowlyintroducing them to Blue and the rest of the house. The extra confinement time is a bummer for us, but they have never known any different, so I don't think it will add too much to their stress.We play with them in the evening, and they sleep sprawled all over us, wake me up at 5:45 every morning with a nip on my arm to get their breakfast :o) Ifthey start showing more interest in getting out Imight be able to block things off so that I can expand their area by onemore room.Hideyo, thank you forthe tip on the wheat litter, that is what I've beenusing so it is a comfort to know it is helping. Thank you all again so much,
Beth



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Re: To Nina and others who read this thread: male calico and black girl kittens

2006-07-13 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



YES NORTHERN STATES
northern states and California seem to care. Is that why I am so 
fanatical about animal rights cause I am a Yankee?
Guess it doesn't matter. I have to remain positive and move on. I have 
babies here that need homes. I cant change all the attitudes but I can change 
some and every little bit helps.


RE: Sam

2006-07-13 Thread Helene Hand



Thank you, Nina! Have no idea what did it.no undue 
stress, etc. I had stopped the procrit a year ago since we 
figuredhis marrow was making RBCs.

Please tell me more about immuno-regulinand I will read 
up on it. It has a diabetic sound to it! (?) 
Helene


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
NinaSent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:22 PMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Sam
Hi Helene,I'm so sorry to hear Sam is not feeling well 
again. I just re-read the post you sent in Aug of 2005 about Sam's 
story. Was there anything that seemed to trigger this latest bout? 
What are his symptoms? Michelle, (and others), has had success with 
Immuno-Regulin, but I don't know if that would be appropriate for Sammy. 
Many prayers that your miracle boy bounces back once 
again!NinaHelene Hand wrote:

  
  Hi, all! 
  Though a longtime member of the list, have not communicated in a long time. I 
  won't let that happen again.
  
  There were several 
  questions-one from Michelle- about whether Sam was always positive. I don't 
  think so. His mother, Delilah is neg. They came to me from a rescue 
  place in 1993. I was assured that the had all of their vaccines- I had written 
  documentation- so until 1999 they received routine vaccines yearly. In 1999 to 
  my shock and dismay Sam tested positive (then we hadseveral mishaps, 
  incorrect testing, andfaulty knowledge on the vet's part) and 
  there you go.He is not an outside cat except when we go on the 
  patio together.Got him into remission finally after a year of touch and 
  go-hard work and love, etc..and words of wisdom from the FELV list.He 
  has been fine until 3 weeks ago, when previous symptoms recurred. I give 
  him all of his meds and fluids at home with my wonderful vet's blessing. 
  
  I really just 
  thought the rescue remedy drops might make things betterHelene 
  - here is what he is currently on:
  
  
  SAMMY’S 
  MEDS: (CURRENT 
6/30/06)
  
  ½ TAURINE 
  PO 
  DAILY 
  
  WINSTROL 2 MG 
  PO 2X WK (*TUES/SAT) 
  
  B-COMPLEX ( 
  PETTINIC) 2 CC PO 1X 
  DAY 
  INTERFERON 
  1CC PO 1X DAY 
  
  7 DAYS ON-7 DAYS 
  OFF
  VIT 
  B12 .25 CC 1X WK SUBCU ( 
  *TUESDAY) 
  
  PROCRIT.07 CC 
  3X WK SUBCU. (140 mg.)(* MON-WEDS-FRI) 
  This had been discontinued, now restarted.
  LAXATONE ONE 
  DOLLOP EVERY 2-3 DAYS
  
  Bolus of 
  100cc Ringer’s Lactate subcu with # 21 gauge 1 “ needle 
  daily He and Delilah also drink 
  filtered water.
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Re: Sam

2006-07-13 Thread Nina




Procrit is used to boost red blood cell production, so if that were
helping maybe the IR would too. I know there has been success with
anemia using it. Michelle can tell you more, and others have posted
sites about it. I'm sure you can Google it and come up with some
stuff. From what I understand about it, (I haven't used it, but I did
order some from Revival), it is a bacteria that is administered IV,
(Cindy and Smokey on the list used it subq with good results), that
helps the body by launching an attack against it and consequently
boosting the immune system to fight whatever else might be going on. I
know one of the side effect warnings include temp fever spike. I think
Michelle said she's given it to two or three of her kitties and only
one had the problem with fever. Another member, Kerry Roach had gotten
it to try for her kitty, Bandy, but if she's reported back on it, I
haven't seen her post. Here's the link to order: http://www.revivalanimal.com/product.asp?pn=31-020ss=immunoregulin

It's also called EqStim, (marketed for use in horses), but it's the
same med. If after discussing it with your vet, you think it might
help, you can order it direct without a prescription. They can
overnight it to you too.
Blessings,
Nina

Helene Hand wrote:

  
  
  
  Thank you, Nina! Have no idea
what did it.no undue stress, etc. I had stopped the procrit a
year ago since we figuredhis marrow was making RBCs.
  
  Please tell me more about
immuno-regulinand I will read up on it. It has a diabetic sound to
it! (?) Helene





Re: Whiskey

2006-07-13 Thread Belinda

  Hi Sherry,
  My sympathies on the loss of Whiskey.  I will get her on the service, 
was she positive and do you have a date please?


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Re: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee

2006-07-13 Thread Lora
Hi Everyone,

I called the vet's office yesterday around 4:30 P.M.
for an update on Madison's status and am happy to
report that she not only survived the general
anesthetic (isoflurane gas), but the operation itself!

Due to Madison's age I was SO worried about the use of
anesthetic, but she pulled through with flying colors.

We picked up Madison from the hospital this afternoon
and despite her condition, she acts perfectly normal.
As soon as she saw me she pratcially jumped into my
arms and when we touched she instantly started to purr
and kneed.

Here is the breakdown of the current events:

07-08-06 Extreral Examination- $15.00 dollars.

07-12-06 Amputation Surgery of Tumor- $80.00 dollars.
07-12-06 Lab Histopathology (biopsy of tumor)- $38.00.
07-12-06 Radiograph 10 X 12 (X-ray of chest)- 35.00.
07-12-06 Clavamox Drops (an antibiotic)- 14.00.

07-13-06 Current Total $182 (which is NOT a bad price
considering we are talking about possible cancer. I
which treatment for human cancer was this cheap!)

Keep in mind that this is just a running total,
because the postoperative appointment will be an
additional cost as well as any treatment for cancer IF
she has it. 

Madison's postoperative exam is scheduled for Saturday
July the 22nd. That is exactly ten (10) days from her
surgery date. Our veterinarian will remove her sutures
then.

Unlike an invasive spay operation which requires
dissolvable sutures, Madison's sugery was external
which required non-dissolvable sutures, hence the
postoperative appointment.

Our veterinarian used a vertical incision which is
approximating three (3) inches in length and resulted
in seventeen (17) individual stitches.

Although Madison was discharged withOUT any pain
medication she does not seem to mind. As soon as we
returned home she quickly inspected every room in the
house to ensure that everything was the way SHE left
it (such a queen) and then curled up on the back of
the couch (her reserved spot) to take a nap. If she
understands the severity of the situation, she clearly
does not care.

In addition to the surgery and biopsy our veterinarian
took an X-ray of her chest to confirm if there was any
cancer cells in that area. There was not, her chest
cavity can back clean and our veterinarian feels
confident that the tumor itself was contained.

The word contained is cancer jargon for meaning that
a small portion of tissue (usually an inch)
surrounding the tumor was clean or cancer-free.

In amputation surgery of a possible cancerous tumor,
surgeons typically remove some good tissue along
with the tumor in hopes that ALL of the cancerous
cells have been extracted from the body; thus
containing the cancer.

This technique is common practice in surgical oncology
i.e. colectomies, lumpectomies, mastectomies, etc. as
conventional cancer treatments. 

However, the biopsy report from the diagnostic
laboratory pathology department is expected to be
received on or before her postoperative appointment.

It will be then that our veterinarian will be able to
tell us if the tumor was benign or malignant and IF
the tumor was malignant what TYPE of cancer it is.

If Madison is dignosed with cancer we will discuss a
course of treatment i.e. chemotherapy,
radiation-therapy, immunotherapy, new/innovative
therapies, etc. then. As of right now, we are just
focused on Madison recovering from the surgery itself.

She made it over the first hurdle (the surgery) now if
she can just get over the next (the cancer.) We are
not out of the woods yet. Please continue to keep my
sweet Madison Lee in your thoughts and prayers. We
need all the positive healing vibes that we can get.

Thank you to everyone who has emailed replys and
posted their well-wishes. We sincerely appreciate it.

Hugs, Lora

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My cat has Felv and is pregnant

2006-07-13 Thread Reese J. Kiikka



My cat just had two blood tests at the vets 
office. He suggested that she get an abortion. Should we get a 
second blood test which must be sent away to confirm the diagnosis? She is 
already halfway through her pregnancy and it takes 7-10 days to get the test 
results.
thanks, Caresse


RE: Sam

2006-07-13 Thread Helene Hand



Thank you so much, Nina!!! . I will get on 
it.First I need to see if there are any unwanted interactions with anything I 
give him. Poor Sam-so many, many needle sticks over the years. Wish you 
could have a setup like a shunt or port as we have for people... I 
can doSCIV IM injections on people ( even family) without 
batting an eye- But my kitty babies?? No, no, no.

Helene


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
NinaSent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:28 PMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Sam
Procrit is used to boost red blood cell production, so if that were 
helping maybe the IR would too. I know there has been success with anemia 
using it. Michelle can tell you more, and others have posted sites about 
it. I'm sure you can Google it and come up with some stuff. From 
what I understand about it, (I haven't used it, but I did order some from 
Revival), it is a bacteria that is administered IV, (Cindy and Smokey on the 
list used it subq with good results), that helps the body by launching an attack 
against it and consequently boosting the immune system to fight whatever else 
might be going on. I know one of the side effect warnings include temp 
fever spike. I think Michelle said she's given it to two or three of her 
kitties and only one had the problem with fever. Another member, Kerry 
Roach had gotten it to try for her kitty, Bandy, but if she's reported back on 
it, I haven't seen her post. Here's the link to order: http://www.revivalanimal.com/product.asp?pn=31-020ss=immunoregulin 
It's also called EqStim, (marketed for use in horses), but it's the same 
med. If after discussing it with your vet, you think it might help, you 
can order it direct without a prescription. They can overnight it to you 
too.Blessings,NinaHelene Hand wrote:

  
  Thank you, Nina! Have no idea what did it.no undue 
  stress, etc. I had stopped the procrit a year ago since we 
  figuredhis marrow was making RBCs.
  
  Please tell me more about immuno-regulinand I will 
  read up on it. It has a diabetic sound to it! (?) 
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RE: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee

2006-07-13 Thread Helene Hand
Madison Lee is certainly in my thoughts and prayerssounds
sucessful!!!  Madison's surgery was only $20.00 more than Sam's blood work
this past week, and Delilah's blood work last week!!  Is Madison Lee a
Southern Kitty name, by any chance? Helene

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lora
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee

Hi Everyone,

I called the vet's office yesterday around 4:30 P.M.
for an update on Madison's status and am happy to report that she not only
survived the general anesthetic (isoflurane gas), but the operation itself!

Due to Madison's age I was SO worried about the use of anesthetic, but she
pulled through with flying colors.

We picked up Madison from the hospital this afternoon and despite her
condition, she acts perfectly normal.
As soon as she saw me she pratcially jumped into my arms and when we touched
she instantly started to purr and kneed.

Here is the breakdown of the current events:

07-08-06 Extreral Examination- $15.00 dollars.

07-12-06 Amputation Surgery of Tumor- $80.00 dollars.
07-12-06 Lab Histopathology (biopsy of tumor)- $38.00.
07-12-06 Radiograph 10 X 12 (X-ray of chest)- 35.00.
07-12-06 Clavamox Drops (an antibiotic)- 14.00.

07-13-06 Current Total $182 (which is NOT a bad price considering we are
talking about possible cancer. I which treatment for human cancer was
this cheap!)

Keep in mind that this is just a running total, because the postoperative
appointment will be an additional cost as well as any treatment for cancer
IF she has it. 

Madison's postoperative exam is scheduled for Saturday July the 22nd. That
is exactly ten (10) days from her surgery date. Our veterinarian will remove
her sutures then.

Unlike an invasive spay operation which requires dissolvable sutures,
Madison's sugery was external which required non-dissolvable sutures, hence
the postoperative appointment.

Our veterinarian used a vertical incision which is approximating three (3)
inches in length and resulted in seventeen (17) individual stitches.

Although Madison was discharged withOUT any pain medication she does not
seem to mind. As soon as we returned home she quickly inspected every room
in the house to ensure that everything was the way SHE left it (such a
queen) and then curled up on the back of the couch (her reserved spot) to
take a nap. If she understands the severity of the situation, she clearly
does not care.

In addition to the surgery and biopsy our veterinarian took an X-ray of her
chest to confirm if there was any cancer cells in that area. There was not,
her chest cavity can back clean and our veterinarian feels confident that
the tumor itself was contained.

The word contained is cancer jargon for meaning that a small portion of
tissue (usually an inch) surrounding the tumor was clean or cancer-free.

In amputation surgery of a possible cancerous tumor, surgeons typically
remove some good tissue along with the tumor in hopes that ALL of the
cancerous cells have been extracted from the body; thus containing the
cancer.

This technique is common practice in surgical oncology i.e. colectomies,
lumpectomies, mastectomies, etc. as conventional cancer treatments. 

However, the biopsy report from the diagnostic laboratory pathology
department is expected to be received on or before her postoperative
appointment.

It will be then that our veterinarian will be able to tell us if the tumor
was benign or malignant and IF the tumor was malignant what TYPE of cancer
it is.

If Madison is dignosed with cancer we will discuss a course of treatment
i.e. chemotherapy, radiation-therapy, immunotherapy, new/innovative
therapies, etc. then. As of right now, we are just focused on Madison
recovering from the surgery itself.

She made it over the first hurdle (the surgery) now if she can just get over
the next (the cancer.) We are not out of the woods yet. Please continue to
keep my sweet Madison Lee in your thoughts and prayers. We need all the
positive healing vibes that we can get.

Thank you to everyone who has emailed replys and posted their well-wishes.
We sincerely appreciate it.

Hugs, Lora

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Re: Whiskey

2006-07-13 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Belinda,she was not a positive,she was from Crash's shelter.I believe it was around the 4th that she passed.Thank you for adding her to the list  SherryBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Sherry,My sympathies on the loss of Whiskey. I will get her on the service, was she positive and do you have a date please?-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting  web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com 
	
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Re: test results

2006-07-13 Thread catatonya
I think vets 'have' to say there is a risk involved to cover themselves against lawsuits. Just like if you get put to sleep to have a tooth removal you have to sign that youare aware you could die but how many people really die from that Well since a few and far between have... you have to sign the form. I think that's what it is more than a vet seriously thinking the disease will be transmitted to a negative cat.tTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:belinda, have you ever seen any research about a VACCINATED negative ever turning positive from living with a positive? i have not--and the experiences of folks on this list as well as friends with positives and vaccinated negatives seems to bear this out i've
 come to think that, when they say the vaccine is only 85% effective, they're not talking about the whole cat population, but only the highly compromised parts--the very young and very old who are most at risk to start with. otherwise, how could 70% of unvaccinated, adult cats manage to throw the virus off consistently? friend is a BIG black cat at the sanctuary, who lived for years in the FeLV compound. he'd been a feral, and obviously tested positive before he came into our care. four years or so ago, he became very ill, to the daily fluids and force-feeding level. he pulled through that, and tho he's had a couple of bouts of other major uris and things, he's been very healthy for the last year and a half or so. for some reason, about a year ago, he was retested--something that isn't regularly done with the FeLVs. guess what--this little brat, who's been quite sickly at least 3 times that i know of, and who has been living exclusively
 with FeLVs, is NEGATIVE on the ifa he's now a huge, spoiled-rotten housecat, and his story really makes me wonder about how contagious this virus is, whether or not initial exposure immunizes them against subsequent--and in his case, constant--exposure, and such-like issues   On 7/12/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:As you said no test is 100% accurate, the IFA is the better test. The hard part, is your almost certainly not going to know when a cat was exposed so the accuracy of the test is always going to be questionable. A cat that tests positive may still be in the stage of trying to fight the virus
 off and may very well test negative at a later date. The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. -- Belinda  happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties  http://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens  http://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Service  http://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting  web
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Re: My cat has Felv and is pregnant

2006-07-13 Thread Gloria Lane
Don'dt know - I was in that situation and I chose the abortion - had her spayed, and she came thru like a champ.  It was much easier than having her go thru the birth, and having FELV kittens (if they were) and then what to do...Best of luck,GloriaOn Jun 28, 2005, at 3:36 PM, Reese J. Kiikka wrote:My cat just had two blood tests at the vets office.  He suggested that she get an abortion.  Should we get a second blood test which must be sent away to confirm the diagnosis?  She is already halfway through her pregnancy and it takes 7-10 days to get the test results.thanks, Caresse

Re: My cat has Felv and is pregnant

2006-07-13 Thread Tad Burnett




If your main concern is for the mother... The stress of going full term
will
probably shorten her life... If you allow her to nurse the kittens that
will
be even more stress on her

The kittens will probable be born neg. but will probable be exposed
during
the cleaning the follows birth and starts them breathing

If the kittens are very important to you and you are willing to do the
extra work ???
You can take them from the mother at the moment of birth (have to be on
your toes
to catch that moment) and clean them and get them breathing and then
feed them every
hour around the clock for the 1st week then taper off to every 2 hours
for a while

Or maybe find a lactating mother to take them... Perhaps one at a
shelter that is going
to be put down anyway because she will be at risk of contacting the
FeLV

If the kittens do get FeLV at that young age they usually have a hard
short life that ends
around 6 months...

Hope that helps you make the choice...
Tad

PS I thought I was going to have to make that choice too but luckily
the cat wasn't pregnant...


Gloria Lane wrote:
Don'dt know - I was in that situation and I chose the
abortion - had her spayed, and she came thru like a champ. It was much
easier than having her go thru the birth, and having FELV kittens (if
they were) and then what to do...
  
  
  Best of luck,
  
  
  Gloria
  
  
  
  
  On Jun 28, 2005, at 3:36 PM, Reese J. Kiikka wrote:
  
  
My cat just had two blood
tests at the vets office. He suggested that she get an abortion.
Should we get a second blood test which must be sent away to confirm
the diagnosis? She is already halfway through her pregnancy and it
takes 7-10 days to get the test results.
thanks, Caresse


  
  
  





Re: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee

2006-07-13 Thread catatonya
That is fantastic news!!! And the price is very good. I can't get a dental for less than $300!Haven't heard from you in a while.. does that mean you're now the proud parent of a baby person???tLora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Everyone,I called the vet's office yesterday around 4:30 P.M.for an update on Madison's status and am happy toreport that she not only survived the generalanesthetic (isoflurane gas), but the operation itself!Due to Madison's age I was SO worried about the use ofanesthetic, but she pulled through with flying colors.We picked up Madison from the hospital this afternoonand despite her condition, she acts perfectly normal.As soon as she saw me she pratcially jumped into
 myarms and when we touched she instantly started to purrand kneed.Here is the breakdown of the current events:07-08-06 Extreral Examination- $15.00 dollars.07-12-06 Amputation Surgery of Tumor- $80.00 dollars.07-12-06 Lab Histopathology (biopsy of tumor)- $38.00.07-12-06 Radiograph 10 X 12 (X-ray of chest)- 35.00.07-12-06 Clavamox Drops (an antibiotic)- 14.00.07-13-06 Current Total $182 (which is NOT a bad priceconsidering we are talking about "possible" cancer. Iwhich treatment for "human" cancer was this cheap!)Keep in mind that this is just a running total,because the postoperative appointment will be anadditional cost as well as any treatment for cancer IFshe has it. Madison's postoperative exam is scheduled for SaturdayJuly the 22nd. That is exactly ten (10) days from hersurgery date. Our veterinarian will remove her suturesthen.Unlike an invasive spay operation
 which requiresdissolvable sutures, Madison's sugery was externalwhich required non-dissolvable sutures, hence thepostoperative appointment.Our veterinarian used a vertical incision which isapproximating three (3) inches in length and resultedin seventeen (17) individual stitches.Although Madison was discharged withOUT any painmedication she does not seem to mind. As soon as wereturned home she quickly inspected every room in thehouse to ensure that everything was the way SHE leftit (such a queen) and then curled up on the back ofthe couch (her reserved spot) to take a nap. If sheunderstands the severity of the situation, she clearlydoes not care.In addition to the surgery and biopsy our veterinariantook an X-ray of her chest to confirm if there was anycancer cells in that area. There was not, her chestcavity can back clean and our veterinarian feelsconfident that the tumor itself was
 "contained."The word "contained" is cancer jargon for meaning thata small portion of tissue (usually an inch)surrounding the tumor was "clean" or cancer-free.In amputation surgery of a "possible" cancerous tumor,surgeons typically remove some "good" tissue alongwith the tumor in hopes that ALL of the cancerouscells have been extracted from the body; thus"containing" the cancer.This technique is common practice in surgical oncologyi.e. colectomies, lumpectomies, mastectomies, etc. asconventional cancer treatments. However, the biopsy report from the diagnosticlaboratory pathology department is expected to bereceived on or before her postoperative appointment.It will be then that our veterinarian will be able totell us if the tumor was benign or malignant and IFthe tumor was malignant what TYPE of cancer it is.If Madison is dignosed with cancer we will discuss acourse of
 treatment i.e. chemotherapy,radiation-therapy, immunotherapy, new/innovativetherapies, etc. then. As of right now, we are justfocused on Madison recovering from the surgery itself.She made it over the first hurdle (the surgery) now ifshe can just get over the next (the cancer.) We arenot out of the woods yet. Please continue to keep mysweet Madison Lee in your thoughts and prayers. Weneed all the positive healing vibes that we can get.Thank you to everyone who has emailed replys andposted their well-wishes. We sincerely appreciate it.Hugs, Lora__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Patti could use your prayers

2006-07-13 Thread catatonya
How terrible. Did you get her contact information to call and check on her. Does she have what she needs? I'm assuming she's on disability at this point... I would be happy to send a donation. I believe she lives with her daughter or her daughter lives with her?tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello group,I got the following email from Patti this morning. I had hoped that she was busy with other things and was just not in touch. I was able to speak to her on the phone and she's in really rough shape. She was in a terrible car accident. She was in a coma, but because of her brain injuries is having a hard time remembering things, so she couldn't tell me for how long. She said she can remember her current pets and things from 20 years
 ago, but she can't remember other pets she has lost. They are hoping her memory will return as she heals. She's lost her front teeth, her right cheek was crushed, broken ribs, brain and spinal injuries, loss of memory, numbness on the left side of her body and so much pain! She sure could use your good thoughts and prayers. She's having a hard time reading the posts because of her vision, but she did see my post asking about her. She kept repeating how you just never know what each day will bring. To add to her troubles, her ex-husband died of a heart attack while she was in the coma. I asked her if it would be okay to let everyone know what she's going through and she welcomed your prayers for her recovery. It's so true. You just never know...Blessings to everyone, please keep safe,Nina[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Dear Nina,  I had a car accident May 17 and was near death. Bad brain injury  spinal probs. Just got home from hosp.  I am not doing as I though. My vision is damaged too. I really am lucky to be here. (?)  I was not able to rad all mail..  Sorry.   Hope all is well with you.  SSay a prayer for mr. I need it.  Love, Patti

Transport

2006-07-13 Thread gdli
Some of you may remember me and my husband. We have taken in FeLV+ cats from
a few of you over the years.

We got a call tonight from a lady in Hopewell, Virginia (about 30 minutes
south of Richmond, Virginia). She had rescued a cat and was going to keep it
when she discovered that he was positive. We are willing to take the cat in,
but was wondering if any of you had contacts or know of an organization that
arranges transport. She said she would be willing to go part way, but
couldn't make it all the way to Louisville, Kentucky. The cat is being held
at a vet's office until something can be arranged. Please help us get this
little guy here. If you know of anybody coming this way, or even close, let
me know as soon as you can. I know there are volunteer transports but I'm
not sure how to get in touch with them.

You can respond to me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] THANKS SO MUCH!

Debbie Reinstedler





Re: Patti could use your prayers

2006-07-13 Thread Lernermichelle



I am so sorry. Sometimes it seems like the apocalypse is coming.
Michelle


Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-13 Thread Lernermichelle



Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I 
tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 for 
4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea with 
some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first time. 
I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new (duck) which I 
am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another appointment (canceled 
the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours away, for next 
Wednesday. I was going to try to take her tomorrow, but my mom has 
convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from the pred and 
not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal lymphoma. I feared it 
when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 days on 10 mg/day of pred 
and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went away and she even got 
constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was unlikely to happen with 
lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But now I don't know. She has 
never needed to be on so much pred for more than a few days before, and she has 
never lost so much weight (though she also has never been on an entirely protein 
diet before either). If she does not have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten 
much worse than it was. I am very depressed by this. If you can spare her 
some good thoughts and prayers, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Michelle


RE: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-13 Thread Tracy Weese



Don't wait, get her checked. One of my negative cats, Puddin'taine,started losing weight last year and I took him in to the vets' and we ran all kinds of tests and everything seemed to be finehe was almost ten and we thought maybe he was just losing a little as some cats dowell, then he began the vomiting and it was very bad w/dry food so I put him on wet food only which almost eliminated the vomiting...but he began to lose more weight and so..finally an xray which showed suspicious masses and an exploratory surgery which confirmed two areas in the abdomen/intestines.now we are going thru chemo and even with a good response, they won't give him more than 6-9 mos unless the cancer goes into remission, which it has not yet although he has improved and gained weight. I will continue to treat him as long as his quality of life is good, and it is right now, I'm hoping the next sonogram shows the masses shrinking

I wish I had not waited that year-I felt I was doing the right thing and felt like a fool when I kept taking him in saying "something was just not right" and I spent the money on all the blood tests/organ functioning tests/geriatric testsI didn't put a limit on it, but didn't keep going with the xrays/sonograms bec. everything was negative and the switch to wet food did seem to help -- my vets mentioned the xrays/sonograms, but even they did not seem to think we needed to keep going until the weight loss started again after the switch to all wet food.

The earlier you know if it islymphoma the better the outcome may becats do well w/chemo if caught in time. Have the xray or sonogram or take the step to have the exploratory surgery and biopsy, it will likely give you the answers you need.I'm guessing Lucy is FeLV+ and as I understand it, that will make the fight tougher so the sooner the better. 


You have my best wishes for a good outcome for Lucy.

Tracy

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: 7/13/2006 11:27:16 PM 
Subject: Please say a prayer for Lucy

Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 for 4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea with some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first time. I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new (duck) which I am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another appointment (canceled the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours away, for next Wednesday. I was going to try to take her tomorrow, but my mom has convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from the pred and not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal lymphoma. I feared it when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 days on 10 mg/day of pred and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went away and she even got constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was unlikely to happen with lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But now I don't know. She has never needed to be on so much pred for more than a few days before, and she has never lost so much weight (though she also has never been on an entirely protein diet before either). If she does not have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten much worse than it was. I am very depressed by this. If you can spare her some good thoughts and prayers, I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Michelle

Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-13 Thread Marylyn



Don't wait. 

I am sending lots of prayers. May all the angels surround you and 
Lucy. She is a dear little cat who loves you tremendously.






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

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  From: 
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  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:27 
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  Subject: Please say a prayer for 
  Lucy
  
  Lucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I 
  tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 
  for 4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea 
  with some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first 
  time. I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new 
  (duck) which I am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another 
  appointment (canceled the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours 
  away, for next Wednesday. I was going to try to take her tomorrow, but 
  my mom has convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from 
  the pred and not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal 
  lymphoma. I feared it when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 
  days on 10 mg/day of pred and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went 
  away and she even got constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was 
  unlikely to happen with lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But 
  now I don't know. She has never needed to be on so much pred for more than a 
  few days before, and she has never lost so much weight (though she also has 
  never been on an entirely protein diet before either). If she does not 
  have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten much worse than it was. I am very 
  depressed by this. If you can spare her some good thoughts and prayers, I 
  would appreciate it.
  Thanks,
  Michelle
  
  

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RE: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-13 Thread catatonya
Praying for Lucy here as well.tTracy Weese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Don't wait, get her checked. One of my negative cats, Puddin'taine,started losing weight last year and I took him in to the vets' and we ran all kinds of tests and everything seemed to be finehe was almost ten and we thought maybe he was just losing a little as some cats dowell, then he began the vomiting and it was very bad w/dry food so I put him on wet food only which almost eliminated the vomiting...but he began to lose more weight and so..finally an xray which showed suspicious masses and an exploratory surgery which confirmed two areas in the abdomen/intestines.now we are going thru chemo and
 even with a good response, they won't give him more than 6-9 mos unless the cancer goes into remission, which it has not yet although he has improved and gained weight. I will continue to treat him as long as his quality of life is good, and it is right now, I'm hoping the next sonogram shows the masses shrinkingI wish I had not waited that year-I felt I was doing the right thing and felt like a fool when I kept taking him in saying "something was just not right" and I spent the money on all the blood tests/organ functioning tests/geriatric testsI didn't put a limit on it, but didn't keep going with the xrays/sonograms bec. everything was negative and the switch to wet food did seem to help -- my vets mentioned the xrays/sonograms, but even they did not seem to think we needed to keep going until the weight loss started again after the switch to all wet
 food.The earlier you know if it islymphoma the better the outcome may becats do well w/chemo if caught in time. Have the xray or sonogram or take the step to have the exploratory surgery and biopsy, it will likely give you the answers you need.I'm guessing Lucy is FeLV+ and as I understand it, that will make the fight tougher so the sooner the better.   You have my best wishes for a good outcome for Lucy.Tracy- Original Message -   From:  
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: 7/13/2006 11:27:16 PM   Subject: Please say a prayer for LucyLucy was doing better, getting over her IBD flare-up I thought; but I tapered her down to 5 mg/day of pred yesterday (did 10 for a week, then 7.5 for 4 days, then 5 starting yesterday) and today she is worse-- some diarrhea with some blood, less interest in food, and under 8 pounds for the first time. I put her back on 10 mg pred today and cooked her something new (duck) which I am now afraid will mess her up even more. I made another appointment (canceled the last one) with the internist in Red Bank, 1.5 hours away, for next Wednesday. I was going to try to take
 her tomorrow, but my mom has convinced me thus far to wait and see if she gets better again from the pred and not take her if she does. I don't know. I fear intestinal lymphoma. I feared it when she first flared up 2 weeks ago, but then after 3 days on 10 mg/day of pred and eating just turkey her diarrhea totally went away and she even got constipated from lack of fiber, and I figured that was unlikely to happen with lymphoma and more likely to be a flare-up of IBD. But now I don't know. She has never needed to be on so much pred for more than a few days before, and she has never lost so much weight (though she also has never been on an entirely protein diet before either). If she does not have lymphoma, her IBD has gotten much worse than it was. I am very depressed by this. If you can spare her some good thoughts and prayers, I would appreciate it.  Thanks,  Michelle

RE: Special Need List Add-On: Madison Lee

2006-07-13 Thread Lora
Helene,

I never gave it much thought, but you know what,
Madison's name DOES sound Southern does it not? LOL.

As a matter of fact yeah, we resided in Southern
Indiana.

Huh. I never realized that I had named her after a
Southern Bell. I was just looking for a nice middle
name that sounded/looked good with the word Madison.

Most of my furkids have full names i.e. Temper Tail,
Felix Anthony, Sebastian Avery, Abigail Rayna, Tabitha
Shaylin, Gypsy Marie, Masion Lee, Mason Keith,
Dartagnan Montague, Whiney Alison, Begger Ray,
Mercedes Benz, etc. :)

They are just fun to say aloud when one of the furkids
gets into trouble and even funnier to watch when
people do a double-take expecting to see me scolding
at a child, not a cat! LOL!  

Lora


--- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Madison Lee is certainly in my thoughts and
prayerssounds sucessful!!!

Madison's surgery was only $20.00 more than Sam's
blood work this past week, and Delilah's blood work
last week!!

Is Madison Lee a Southern Kitty name, by any chance? 

Helene

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