Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
That is great progress! tonya Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Animal Control is -- better than it used to be. We haven't been able to get them to round up the pack of dogs running in the area but in a miracle of a turn of events just a little while ago we found out that the head of AC is going to work with our rescue group on Operation Jack that our President just proposed to him -- a massive TNR effort in Jack's neighborhood. We determined that we needed to do this and got all our input during our searches for Jack. He is offering his facility to our vet -- and will sanction the altered animals and not pick them up -- we will ear-tip so AC will know what is what. I can't tell you what a development this is -- it is groundbreaking for this city -- such a big development that we can't really take it all in yet. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh my dear, be very careful. You're not going to find anyone being indulgent or open to education under those circumstances. How is Animal Control around there? Don't let those people think for a minute that you will be sticking your nose in their horrid business. Covert is definitely the word for dealing with that sort of thing. Just the thought makes my stomach churn. The dogs for protection people can sometimes be reached with reason and tact, (hard to do, but you have to approach them as if you do believe they have some feelings for their animals). There was a group of people, I can't remember the organization's name, that used to go door to door with things like run lines to install for dogs chained up. You know, a line strung from tree to tree, (or post to post), that would allow the dog a little more freedom of movement. They'd bring gifts of food and supplies and try to get their message out to the people that might be swayed. Bless their hearts, and your's too, it seems to be a never ending uphill battle. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Most of the dogs we have come across are strictly for protection - and we wonder how well cared for. The search team yesterday came across several yards full of what we think is fighting dogs in training -- we have to address that in addition to the cat issues.
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
Jack's personality is such that he never meets a stranger - human or feline. If he has lost his collar and ID it is very possible that someone has either taken him in or at least is feeding him. With the flyer coverage -- close to 100 in the area -- and out of the immediate area at grocery stores, restaurants, car washes, etc., where the residents might gather -- it is hard to believe someone hasn't seen the flyers and the reward. But it is still possible.I know Dianne is keeping food out but I will definitely suggest going out at that time. So many good ideas from all you guys. We all appreciate it. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such a bittersweet story about the neighborhood Jack's gone missing in. It sounds like so much good will be done in his honor. Isn't that just life in a nutshell? Since the folks in that area seem so kindly disposed to animals, I'm wondering if someone has taken Jackie in, or is at least keeping him fed. I know it must be cold out, but is your friend keeping a window or door ajar in case he wanders back home? Around 3am seems to be the time when they feel safe to attempt travel. Has your friend been going outside and shaking a package of dry food around that time? Since other's have been trapped, it sounds like traps are being set where he went missing. How fortunate for the ones that have been/will be helped. Thank you Jack, now COME HOME! Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Nina, thank you so much. Please do send prayers Jack's way. He disappeared on Jan. 1st and there hasn't been a day, hardly that someone from his family or our rescue group hasn't been on the streets looking for him and talking to people. I really do like the business card idea -- we did, in addition to flyers, half-size handbills -- half of an 81/2 x 11 page which we put on doors and gave to people - but the business cards are easier for people to hold on to. The neighborhood is really interesting -- an old downtown 'hood area where people are moving in and renovating old homes. Lots of boarded up homes, brushy areas mixed in with better cared for places. Last night a couple of kids brought a black cat to Dianne's (Jack's mom) door thinking it was Jack. It wasn't but Dianne took it in because it had an injured tail and took to vet this morning. She's also taken all unaltered animals she's trapped to be altered. Our rescue group has discovered in this search that this is the neighborhood where we want to begin to concentrate on tnr- we are calling our effort The Jackie Project in Jack's honor -- we have met many wonderful people with essentially zero resources who are willing to feed strays but can't afford spay neuter. Jack's nicknames are Jackie and Ducky. He is black but with a brownish tint in the sun. He has lots of sinus problems and lots of the time has the tip of his tongue sticking out. I have been amazed that every single person we have talked to -- including knocking on the door at all hours -- has been indredible -- not one single person has refused a request to let us check basements or walk their property -- and we have felt safe even though this is a neighborhood high in drug activity and police activity. Other than not finding Jack yet it has been a totally positive experience.
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
I am convinced that someone had taken Ursula in even though they knew that she was being searched for. Ursula, if I do say so myself, is quite a stunning Calico and I think the person just didn't want to give her up. One of the hints I had from the psychic was that Ursula could see a picket fence from the window she was sitting in. My house has a picket fence too, so I approached the other like-fenced houses in the neighborhood with the story, (they all think I'm nuts anyway), that I thought maybe Ursula might have gotten confused by the similarity and went into their yard. I was relentless in my search and I suspect that this person finally opened the door and let her out in the middle of the night. Of course I couldn't sleep while she was gone and I got up in the middle of the night to find her sitting outside our sliding glass door waiting to be let in. I had to blink twice to make sure I wasn't imagining her there. She was in great shape, not even hungry, that also made me suspect someone was trying to keep her as their own. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Jack's personality is such that he never meets a stranger - human or feline. If he has lost his collar and ID it is very possible that someone has either taken him in or at least is feeding him. With the flyer coverage -- close to 100 in the area -- and out of the immediate area at grocery stores, restaurants, car washes, etc., where the residents might gather -- it is hard to believe someone hasn't seen the flyers and the reward. But it is still possible.I know Dianne is keeping food out but I will definitely suggest going out at that time. So many good ideas from all you guys. We all appreciate it.
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
Wow, that is encouraging. Know what you mean about people thinking you are nuts! We don't venture far into some parts of the neighborhood with out a second or third person along -- but I think we've felt pretty safe because people kind of treat us like we are nuts -- and harmless!! Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am convinced that someone had taken Ursula in even though they knew that she was being searched for. Ursula, if I do say so myself, is quite a stunning Calico and I think the person just didn't want to give her up. One of the hints I had from the psychic was that Ursula could see a picket fence from the window she was sitting in. My house has a picket fence too, so I approached the other like-fenced houses in the neighborhood with the story, (they all think I'm nuts anyway), that I thought maybe Ursula might have gotten confused by the similarity and went into their yard. I was relentless in my search and I suspect that this person finally opened the door and let her out in the middle of the night. Of course I couldn't sleep while she was gone and I got up in the middle of the night to find her sitting outside our sliding glass door waiting to be let in. I had to blink twice to make sure I wasn't imagining her there. She was in great shape, not even hungry, that also made me suspect someone was trying to keep her as their own. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Jack's personality is such that he never meets a stranger - human or feline. If he has lost his collar and ID it is very possible that someone has either taken him in or at least is feeding him. With the flyer coverage -- close to 100 in the area -- and out of the immediate area at grocery stores, restaurants, car washes, etc., where the residents might gather -- it is hard to believe someone hasn't seen the flyers and the reward. But it is still possible. I know Dianne is keeping food out but I will definitely suggest going out at that time. So many good ideas from all you guys. We all appreciate it.
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
some cats have second homes, too--a friend has a calico (of course) who disappears every may, and comes home every september, fat and sassy and clearly well-cared for On 1/22/07, Susan Loesch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, that is encouraging. Know what you mean about people thinking you are nuts! We don't venture far into some parts of the neighborhood with out a second or third person along -- but I think we've felt pretty safe because people kind of treat us like we are nuts -- and harmless!! *Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: I am convinced that someone had taken Ursula in even though they knew that she was being searched for. Ursula, if I do say so myself, is quite a stunning Calico and I think the person just didn't want to give her up. One of the hints I had from the psychic was that Ursula could see a picket fence from the window she was sitting in. My house has a picket fence too, so I approached the other like-fenced houses in the neighborhood with the story, (they all think I'm nuts anyway), that I thought maybe Ursula might have gotten confused by the similarity and went into their yard. I was relentless in my search and I suspect that this person finally opened the door and let her out in the middle of the night. Of course I couldn't sleep while she was gone and I got up in the middle of the night to find her sitting outside our sliding glass door waiting to be let in. I had to blink twice to make sure I wasn't imagining her there. She was in great shape, not even hungry, that also made me suspect someone was trying to keep her as their own. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Jack's personality is such that he never meets a stranger - human or feline. If he has lost his collar and ID it is very possible that someone has either taken him in or at least is feeding him. With the flyer coverage -- close to 100 in the area -- and out of the immediate area at grocery stores, restaurants, car washes, etc., where the residents might gather -- it is hard to believe someone hasn't seen the flyers and the reward. But it is still possible. I know Dianne is keeping food out but I will definitely suggest going out at that time. So many good ideas from all you guys. We all appreciate it. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
My neighborhood is not nearly so friendly to animals as Jack's seems to be. They're not exactly abusive, but very, very neglectful. Lot's of Oh we love our dog, while they keep her chained up ignored in the front yard. It's the main reason our house is overflowing with fourleggers. When an animal goes missing, most of the folks around here don't even look for them, (or answer found ads in the paper), they just go get another one and their old pets end up at my house :( . They don't for a minute understand my dedication, but they usually treat me with indulgence. They think the way I perceive animal rights is crazy, but they seem to smile on my efforts anyway. It's very frustrating, but I keep trying to educate. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Wow, that is encouraging. Know what you mean about people thinking you are nuts! We don't venture far into some parts of the neighborhood with out a second or third person along -- but I think we've felt pretty safe because people kind of treat us like we are nuts -- and harmless!!
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
Most of the dogs we have come across are strictly for protection - and we wonder how well cared for. The search team yesterday came across several yards full of what we think is fighting dogs in training -- we have to address that in addition to the cat issues. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My neighborhood is not nearly so friendly to animals as Jack's seems to be. They're not exactly abusive, but very, very neglectful. Lot's of Oh we love our dog, while they keep her chained up ignored in the front yard. It's the main reason our house is overflowing with fourleggers. When an animal goes missing, most of the folks around here don't even look for them, (or answer found ads in the paper), they just go get another one and their old pets end up at my house :( . They don't for a minute understand my dedication, but they usually treat me with indulgence. They think the way I perceive animal rights is crazy, but they seem to smile on my efforts anyway. It's very frustrating, but I keep trying to educate. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Wow, that is encouraging. Know what you mean about people thinking you are nuts! We don't venture far into some parts of the neighborhood with out a second or third person along -- but I think we've felt pretty safe because people kind of treat us like we are nuts -- and harmless!!
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
Oh my dear, be very careful. You're not going to find anyone being indulgent or open to education under those circumstances. How is Animal Control around there? Don't let those people think for a minute that you will be sticking your nose in their horrid business. Covert is definitely the word for dealing with that sort of thing. Just the thought makes my stomach churn. The dogs for protection people can sometimes be reached with reason and tact, (hard to do, but you have to approach them as if you do believe they have some feelings for their animals). There was a group of people, I can't remember the organization's name, that used to go door to door with things like run lines to install for dogs chained up. You know, a line strung from tree to tree, (or post to post), that would allow the dog a little more freedom of movement. They'd bring gifts of food and supplies and try to get their message out to the people that might be swayed. Bless their hearts, and your's too, it seems to be a never ending uphill battle. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Most of the dogs we have come across are strictly for protection - and we wonder how well cared for. The search team yesterday came across several yards full of what we think is fighting dogs in training -- we have to address that in addition to the cat issues.
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
Your friend should put a note on her collar introducing herself! It would be nice to know where the heck she goes and I'm always looking for allies in my neighborhood. Nina TenHouseCats wrote: some cats have second homes, too--a friend has a calico (of course) who disappears every may, and comes home every september, fat and sassy and clearly well-cared for
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
Animal Control is -- better than it used to be. We haven't been able to get them to round up the pack of dogs running in the area but in a miracle of a turn of events just a little while ago we found out that the head of AC is going to work with our rescue group on Operation Jack that our President just proposed to him -- a massive TNR effort in Jack's neighborhood. We determined that we needed to do this and got all our input during our searches for Jack. He is offering his facility to our vet -- and will sanction the altered animals and not pick them up -- we will ear-tip so AC will know what is what. I can't tell you what a development this is -- it is groundbreaking for this city -- such a big development that we can't really take it all in yet. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh my dear, be very careful. You're not going to find anyone being indulgent or open to education under those circumstances. How is Animal Control around there? Don't let those people think for a minute that you will be sticking your nose in their horrid business. Covert is definitely the word for dealing with that sort of thing. Just the thought makes my stomach churn. The dogs for protection people can sometimes be reached with reason and tact, (hard to do, but you have to approach them as if you do believe they have some feelings for their animals). There was a group of people, I can't remember the organization's name, that used to go door to door with things like run lines to install for dogs chained up. You know, a line strung from tree to tree, (or post to post), that would allow the dog a little more freedom of movement. They'd bring gifts of food and supplies and try to get their message out to the people that might be swayed. Bless their hearts, and your's too, it seems to be a never ending uphill battle. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Most of the dogs we have come across are strictly for protection - and we wonder how well cared for. The search team yesterday came across several yards full of what we think is fighting dogs in training -- we have to address that in addition to the cat issues.
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
OMG that's fantastic!! A friend of mine has been trying to work with the shelter in her area to not pts tipped ferals. Her rescue group is now micro chipping all their tnr cats so that they know the colony to return them to. Small grueling steps can sometimes pay off. Oh so good for you guys! The icing on the cake would be for Jack to come home! Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Animal Control is -- better than it used to be. We haven't been able to get them to round up the pack of dogs running in the area but in a miracle of a turn of events just a little while ago we found out that the head of AC is going to work with our rescue group on Operation Jack that our President just proposed to him -- a massive TNR effort in Jack's neighborhood. We determined that we needed to do this and got all our input during our searches for Jack. He is offering his facility to our vet -- and will sanction the altered animals and not pick them up -- we will ear-tip so AC will know what is what. I can't tell you what a development this is -- it is groundbreaking for this city -- such a big development that we can't really take it all in yet.
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
We are literally in shock because it is such an unexpected thing. What a wonderful idea to microchip tnr cats! So far what we have been able to work out with AC was for our previous director to evaluate cats in the feral room to separate truly feral from just fractious. They he ok'd us taking any feral we could relocate. They still withhold the existence of a feral room from the general public when they go in searching for a cat they've lost. But the current situation sure beats the way it used to be -- the only way out of the feral room was to the euthanasia room. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OMG that's fantastic!! A friend of mine has been trying to work with the shelter in her area to not pts tipped ferals. Her rescue group is now micro chipping all their tnr cats so that they know the colony to return them to. Small grueling steps can sometimes pay off. Oh so good for you guys! The icing on the cake would be for Jack to come home! Nina Susan Loesch wrote: Animal Control is -- better than it used to be. We haven't been able to get them to round up the pack of dogs running in the area but in a miracle of a turn of events just a little while ago we found out that the head of AC is going to work with our rescue group on Operation Jack that our President just proposed to him -- a massive TNR effort in Jack's neighborhood. We determined that we needed to do this and got all our input during our searches for Jack. He is offering his facility to our vet -- and will sanction the altered animals and not pick them up -- we will ear-tip so AC will know what is what. I can't tell you what a development this is -- it is groundbreaking for this city -- such a big development that we can't really take it all in yet.
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
It's so ridiculous to think that just anyone could tell a frantic out-of-their-mind with fear house cat from a feral under those conditions. And for Heaven's sake, not giving people access to the feral room when they are searching for their cats is unconscionable. I hate going to the shelter, some of the worst of my haunting images come from those brave, stoic ferals waiting on death row. I'm always battling my sensitivities that make me want to pull the covers over my head with the NEED to get involved. Where do you live? I wish I had such wonderful like-minded people to join forces with. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: We are literally in shock because it is such an unexpected thing. What a wonderful idea to microchip tnr cats! So far what we have been able to work out with AC was for our previous director to evaluate cats in the feral room to separate truly feral from just fractious. They he ok'd us taking any feral we could relocate. They still withhold the existence of a feral room from the general public when they go in searching for a cat they've lost. But the current situation sure beats the way it used to be -- the only way out of the feral room was to the euthanasia room.
Re: OT - pet psychics/animal communicators - Nina
I'm in LIttle Rock, AR. Wish you were here to work with us!! Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's so ridiculous to think that just anyone could tell a frantic out-of-their-mind with fear house cat from a feral under those conditions. And for Heaven's sake, not giving people access to the feral room when they are searching for their cats is unconscionable. I hate going to the shelter, some of the worst of my haunting images come from those brave, stoic ferals waiting on death row. I'm always battling my sensitivities that make me want to pull the covers over my head with the NEED to get involved. Where do you live? I wish I had such wonderful like-minded people to join forces with. Nina Susan Loesch wrote: We are literally in shock because it is such an unexpected thing. What a wonderful idea to microchip tnr cats! So far what we have been able to work out with AC was for our previous director to evaluate cats in the feral room to separate truly feral from just fractious. They he ok'd us taking any feral we could relocate. They still withhold the existence of a feral room from the general public when they go in searching for a cat they've lost. But the current situation sure beats the way it used to be -- the only way out of the feral room was to the euthanasia room.
