Re: [Finale] Mac OS issue
I hate to be so naivebut where is the preference file? Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 6:27 PM Lawrence David Eden wrote: > I solved my Crashing Finale problem by deleting the Finale Preferences > File. Hated setting everything up again, but Finale is now running > smoothly again. I wonder if this will fix Mike G’s problem as well. > > Larry Eden > > > On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Mike Greensill > wrote: > > > > I just did the same and Finale 25 has slowed noticeably. Also a strange > > behavior has returnedwhen I use the staff tool to alter the distance > > between stave, all the music on the staves disappears while I'm moving > them. > > > > Mike G. > > > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 4:02 AM Lawrence David Eden > > wrote: > > > >> Greetings and a word of warning to others: > >> > >> Yesterday, I installed the latest Security Update for Mac OS. (I am > >> running 10.13.6). I zapped the PRAM after I did the installation. > >> > >> When I opened Finale 25.5 to continue work on a project, my MIDI > settings > >> were different. Using Speedy when the score was displayed in transposed > >> pitch caused a return of the minor seconds sounding as I entered each > >> note. This was a problem that my colleagues on the List helped me fix > last > >> summer. Question is: was it the Security Update or the PRAM Zap that > >> changed things in Finale. > >> > >> Any ideas? Have any of you experienced this issue as well? > >> > >> Larry Eden > >> ___ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > >> > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Mac OS issue
I just did the same and Finale 25 has slowed noticeably. Also a strange behavior has returnedwhen I use the staff tool to alter the distance between stave, all the music on the staves disappears while I'm moving them. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 4:02 AM Lawrence David Eden wrote: > Greetings and a word of warning to others: > > Yesterday, I installed the latest Security Update for Mac OS. (I am > running 10.13.6). I zapped the PRAM after I did the installation. > > When I opened Finale 25.5 to continue work on a project, my MIDI settings > were different. Using Speedy when the score was displayed in transposed > pitch caused a return of the minor seconds sounding as I entered each > note. This was a problem that my colleagues on the List helped me fix last > summer. Question is: was it the Security Update or the PRAM Zap that > changed things in Finale. > > Any ideas? Have any of you experienced this issue as well? > > Larry Eden > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale 25
"But even so, feature-wise there is virtually no difference between 14.5 and 25." Robert Hardly seems worth it even for $99...especially when I'm quite happy with 2012. Love Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com cell - 707 235 5107 home - 707 967 9491 On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > The TGTools Mac 64-bit beta is definitely better than the TGTools Mac beta > for Fin14.5. > > My experience is that human playback is MUCH faster to start in 25 than > 14.5. > > I haven't seen the crash on exit. > > But even so, feature-wise there is virtually no difference between 14.5 and > 25. The main one I can think of (besides some playback tweaks) is that time > signatures can be hidden/show separately in score and part. > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Eric Dannewitz <ericd...@jazz-sax.com> > wrote: > > > I noticed it was faster than 2014.5 and that TGTools 64 bit seemed to > work > > better. > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Steve Parker <st...@pinkrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> The time signature dialogue can finally be clicked again, rather than > > dragged (as in versions up to 2014), but the key signature dialogue > (which > > was fine) can now not be clicked and has to be dragged. > > > > > > Further to this, the key sig box does have clickable arrows, but not > > when setting up from a template. > > > > > > Steve P. > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Finale mailing list > > > Finale@shsu.edu > > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Monday sale
Thanks folks...I think I'll stick with what I have and wait until this computer dies. I'm actually quite happy with 2012, it does everything I need. I have 2014 but don't like it much! Love Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com cell - 707 235 5107 home - 707 967 9491 On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Eric Dannewitz <ericd...@jazz-sax.com> wrote: > 10.9 can run 64 bit apps. You can check to see what your system is running > by opening terminal and doing “uname -a” > > RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 means 64 bit is running > RELEASE_I386 i386 is 32 bit. > > I’m sorta stuck on 10.9 due to a graphics card issue……i’d have to spend > some $$ to get a new graphics card. > > > > > On Nov 25, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Mike Greensill <m...@mikegreensill.com> > wrote: > > > > I'm thinking of doing it toobut what I can't seem to find is info on > > the system requirements. I'm still on 10.9.5. Is that too old for 64 bit? > > > > Love > > > > Mike G. > > > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > > cell - 707 235 5107 > > home - 707 967 9491 > > > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Dean Rosenthal < > deanrosent...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hello - > >> > >> Finale is having their "Cyber Monday" - Finale is $99. Worth the upgrade > >> from 2014.5? If so, why? Also, is the scanning music in feature using > TIFFs > >> gone - will look that up. Thanks for your input. > >> > >> Dean > >> > >> -- > >> Dean Rosenthal > >> www.deanrosenthal.org > >> www.stonespiece.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Finale mailing list > >> Finale@shsu.edu > >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> > >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > >> finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > >> > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Monday sale
I'm thinking of doing it toobut what I can't seem to find is info on the system requirements. I'm still on 10.9.5. Is that too old for 64 bit? Love Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com cell - 707 235 5107 home - 707 967 9491 On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Dean Rosenthal <deanrosent...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello - > > Finale is having their "Cyber Monday" - Finale is $99. Worth the upgrade > from 2014.5? If so, why? Also, is the scanning music in feature using TIFFs > gone - will look that up. Thanks for your input. > > Dean > > -- > Dean Rosenthal > www.deanrosenthal.org > www.stonespiece.com > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Finale vNext
WellI don't see shelling out $149 for what seems like almost no new features and no promises of bug fixes. When it comes down to it I'm thrilled with the way 2012 works, it does everything I need. I had no luck with 2014. Maybe if I got a new computer with all the latest mac operating systems I might be tempted. But I'm leery about upgrading because it seems that so many older programs won't work any more. Love Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com cell - 707 235 5107 home - 707 967 9491 On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:58 AM, j...@thomastudios.com <j...@thomastudios.com> wrote: > OK. I’ll get the ball rolling here. Just received my notification that > the last version of Finale is now available. I rarely jump on things right > away, preferring all the rest of you early-adopters to be extended beta > testers! > > For $149 uprgrade fee, this version, for me, has to be much FASTER, > especially with larger files, all or most of the old, ancient existing bugs > expunged (or close to it), on and on. > > Let’s start the discussion folks! > > > *** > J D Thomas > ThomaStudios > > > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Preferred method for entering notes/etc into finale 2012
I use "speedy" with a midi keyboard and find it's very, very quick for entering notes. Apparently the 'powers that be' at Finale much prefer "simple" but I just don'y see it myself. My biggest fear is that someday they'll dump "speedy". I use templates that I've created for almost all my projects from a full symphony score, to big band, to piano trio. Saves vast amounts of time and everything always looks as you would like it, from the fonts used to personal chords suffixes, page layout etc. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com http://www.shermusic.com/1883217768.php On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:26 AM, David H. Bailey <dhbaile...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 2/17/2016 1:57 PM, Martin Nickless wrote: > > As a relative newcomer to finale I would like to seek the opinion of > > people out there and which means They think is the quickest way to > > input notation etc into finale on the completion of a Pen and paper > > sketch Do most people tend to have templates already set up for the > > project they're about to start on ? I use a laptop and a midi > > keyboard but when I'm away from home can entering notes on the laptop > > manually also be a fast process also Last one which plug-ins are > > essential for speed Very best regards thank you Martin > > > > I use speedy entry -- sometimes with a midi keyboard but more frequently > using the computer's keyboard. Arrow keys up and down to select the > pitch, number keys to select the rhythm. If you switch between using a > midi keyboard and not using a midi keyboard to enter the music using > Speedy Entry be sure that the toggle Use Midi Device for input is > unchecked if you're using only the computer's keyboard or all you'll get > are rests. > > I don't usually use templates, preferring to set each new document up > precisely for that particular project. But then I don't usually work on > projects which have to be "just so" for a particular publisher. > > I don't find plug-ins to be helpful for entering the notation -- they're > great for things after the initial music entry but I find they get in > the way when I'm in the music entry phase of a project. > > > -- > David H. Bailey > dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com > http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Use Finale's Page Orientation option
As far as I can tell, all the fonts are embedded in the pdfs that I make this way. Mike 2016-01-07 19:41 GMT+01:00 Robert Patterson <rob...@robertgpatterson.com>: > MIke, I don't think that export pages to pdf embeds any fonts other than > Finale's music font(s). At least, it didn't used to. > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Mike Cholewa <m...@cholewa.nu> wrote: > > > How about exporting pdfs from the Graphics Tools: export pages to pdf? > > (In FInale 2012 the partname will be appended to the filename. Not so in > > Finmac2014) > > > > Mike > > > > 2016-01-07 19:01 GMT+01:00 Darcy James Argue <djar...@icloud.com>: > > > > > Hi Robert, > > > > > > I have never found a way to adjust page size other than adjusting it in > > > Page Setup. I'd be interested to know if there's a solution that works! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > - DJA > > > - > > > WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > > > > > > On Jan 7, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Robert Patterson > > <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I can't tell that the "Use Finale's Page Orientation Instead of the > > > > Printer's Page Orientation" option in Program Options has any effect. > > Can > > > > someone explain it to me? I would like Finale to generate PDF's based > > on > > > > the doc page size rather than the page setup size, but I can't seem > to > > > get > > > > it to work. > > > > > > > > This is most critical when the score and parts use different page > > sizes. > > > > ___ > > > > Finale mailing list > > > > Finale@shsu.edu > > > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Finale mailing list > > > Finale@shsu.edu > > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > > > ___ > > Finale mailing list > > Finale@shsu.edu > > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Line
Darcy introduced me to an excellent term for this; he calls it rhythmic authority. It means the player may not be putting rhythms down exactly according to the metronome, but he knows (and we can hear) exactly what his relationship to the ground pulse is. I had never heard it expressed so specifically before, and I use it all the time now. This is just so excellent. Darcy, can I quote you in the next edition of my book Playing for Singers? I talk about this very thing in terms of accompanying singers in out of tempo versesbut not so succinctly! Bravo. Love Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com cell - 707 235 5107 home - 707 967 9491 On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: Dear Barbara, Christopher and Darcy are spot on - exactly right about Bill's rhythmic authority. The trick is to listen and feel the pulse as Bill felt and expressed it, and it's far simpler than this transcription indicates. I played with Bill for about 6 years and his expression of underlying pulse was so clear that it was possible to play all the rubatos with him - always coordinated and without so much as the slightest head nod from Bill. Since that was not only possible but even easy, it should be possible to hear and notate this clearly. It is extraordinarily beautiful and worth doing. Where there may be useful information in this transcription is in the notation of some of the subdivisions in the melody. Good luck, Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: On Thu Jul 2, at ThursdayJul 2 4:52 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote: On 2-7-2015 22:44, Darcy James Argue wrote: This is a dismayingly wrong-headed, over-literal transcription. I know, I know. I'm taking the pedantry out. :) But what do these lines mean? Thank goodness you are doing that! This transcriber doesn't seem to hear ground pulse at all. Bill Evans had time so good he was almost a mutant, and we can hear it perfectly even in his rubato playing. Darcy introduced me to an excellent term for this; he calls it rhythmic authority. It means the player may not be putting rhythms down exactly according to the metronome, but he knows (and we can hear) exactly what his relationship to the ground pulse is. I had never heard it expressed so specifically before, and I use it all the time now. I thought at first the brackets might be a pedal marking, but no, it was only a coincidence at first. It seems that it might be an indication where Bill goes from separately articulated notes to a more legato phrasing. Perhaps any other writer would put a slur over the phrase. There is so much needless stuff in this notation that I would question the very need to indicate some of what he notated. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] So many problems with Finale 2014
Yes Eric...we've all tried trashing preferences and every other suggestionthe fact is that, for some unknown reason, for some of us 2014 is a disaster and unusable. Love Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com cell - 707 235 5107 home - 707 967 9491 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote: Have you tried trashing the preferences? That is probably more helpful than coming on this list and venting about a waste of time the program is. Finale 2014 is working great for me Sent from my iSomething -- Eric Dannewitz Musician/Polymath/Evil Genius http://www.ericdannewitz.com On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Alberto Guzmán Naranjo albe...@gmail.com wrote: It is so unfortunate the situation with Finale 2014, installed into a great iMac and permanently presenting problems: crashes, falls, it turns off. Who is responsible for all this wasted time? I paid for an expensive program and I’m not getting the service I’ve supposedly purchased. I feel so tired with all this bugs I Dream of time when we all was writing by hand. Merry Christmas Alberto Guzmán Naranjo Director de Orquesta - Compositor Profesor Titular Universidad del Valle ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] MakeMusic joins Peaksware
Here's a quote from the Sibelius blog that makes me think their long term plans are in the education and learning worlds and not the professional musician world. I'm going to be hanging on to 2012 for dear life :) Andy Stephens is now chairman of both MakeMusic and Peaksware.Gear said that “Andy made me aware of his investment in MakeMusic. His vision is to build a broader company with a common goal around developing platforms for deliberate practice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_%28learning_method%29#Deliberate_practice. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_%28learning_method%29#Deliberate_practice ) Andy asked me to re-imagine MakeMusic in the way we had built TrainingPeaks. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Will Roberts whrcompo...@fastmail.fm wrote: Good evening friends, Big news out of MakeMusic today. What does this mean for Finale? http://www.makemusic.com/documents/2014/08/makemusic-joins-peaksware-press-release.pdf http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/makemusic-joins-peaksware/ http://tcbmag.com/News/Recent-News/2014/August/MakeMusic,-A-115-Worker-Co-,-To-Leave-MN Best, -WR -- Will Roberts whrcompo...@fastmail.fm ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Ghost staff and the inability to add additional staves
Hi all, I have a file that has a ghost staff at the top of the document, only visible in scroll view- and it's just bar lines, nothing else. I can't select it, it doesn't show up in the staff usage list, or the score manager. Added to that, when I try to add staves to the bottom of the score, those same kind of staves appear in scroll view, but in page view they seem fine. Has anyone ever come across this problem? Currently, I have flown all of the information into a clean template for safety, but I sure would like to get to the bottom of this with score/part formatting in tact and see this file perform as I would normally expect it to. Thanks in advance for you help with this! By the way... the pertinent info: I'm working in Finale 2012 for Mac (10.7.5) Best, Mike ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] 2014 crashes
It just crashed when I was deleting a lyric, it seems many different actions can cause crashes, very unstable.Grrr. I'm back on 2012 except for projects I already started in '14. Mike G. imac 10.9.2 Finale 2014a www.mikegreensill.com On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:33 AM, John Roberts an...@nycap.rr.com wrote: Various things can trigger crashes, it seems. I was experiencing a similar problem, different trigger, but editing an expression always caused a crash. One of the things tech support suggested was removing the custom menu commands I'd created in Mac OS System Prefs/Keyboard/Shortcuts. It helped, though I still get an occasional crash. JR On 4/15/14, 2:20 PM, Ryan wrote: Anyone else experiencing this? Mac OS 10.8, Finale 2014a I'm creating a template in 2014. Whenever I try to change a staff name in the score manager, Finale crashes. Any change in that field seems to trigger the crash, as it happens when I try to change the font, or just type something new. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Any idea if/when there will be a patch B for 2014?
It's so slow and crashes all the timemost unusable upgrade ever. Back to 2012. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:56 AM, J D Thomas j...@thomastudios.com wrote: There is also a startup bug for those with Apple displays. Forced me back to the pre-A version. From the sounds of Chuck and Craig, that's where I'll stay. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Apr 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com wrote: There are a bunch of bugs in the A version. That smart find and paste is so messed up, it is practically unusable. Half the time, when copying hairpins, some of them get wildly wrong coordinates in the target measures, stretching them over 40 measures or something. And it no longer finds matches properly. It worked fine for me up through 2012. This is turning what should have been a 60 minute editing job into a 5 hour marathon because I have to apply all my slurs and hairpins manually. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
[Finale] Bill Duncan fonts and Mavericks
Has anyone had any trouble installing the Bill Duncan chord fonts in Mavericks? I haven't upgraded to that OS yet but I'm collaborating with someone who has, and is having trouble with the fonts being recognized by the OS. As always, any help is greatly appreciated! Best, Mike Casteel ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: finale-unsubscr...@shsu.edu
Re: [Finale] Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide -- a bookworth considering!
One of the reasons I went back to 2011 is because I couldn't get my head around the score manager...so I need a chapter that I can read and digest as if I was learning the program from scratch. Mike G. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:24 AM, John Witmer wit...@nctv.com wrote: Hey David, With your suggestion, I sat down with Mark's opus (Finale 2012 A Trailblazer Guide) in hand to learn how to use the Score Manager. There is no item in the table of contents about the SM so I looked in the index. There are 3 citations there, but they only talk about the SM to solve some very specific tasks. I wish there was a comprehensive chapter on the Score Manager. It is such a new concept for Finale that it deserves a more thorough treatment. Finale remains very much a teach yourself program! Chordially, John A Finale user since 1998 - Original Message - From: David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: [Finale] Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide -- a bookworth considering! Remember when Finale came with real, printed manuals? Don't you wish it still did? I just wanted to point out that people who are upgrading to Finale 2014 or purchasing Finale for the first time might want to purchase Mark Johnson's Finale 2014: A Trailblazer Guide to assist with the upgrade. Mark has been publishing these books for the past few upgrades and I have found them immensely helpful in navigating around the pitfalls of each new upgrade. Notable potential pitfalls are the ScoreManager (still -- many people haven't gotten used to how this works compared to the older Instrument List dialog) and the newly redesigned percussion dialog. These books are great for new users as well as long-time users who may have gotten entrenched in older workflows which have changed with these newer versions. It's especially helpful for people who haven't upgraded for a long time. You can order it from MakeMusic when you order your upgrade (or separately) or you can order it from amazon. [Disclaimer: Mark is a friend and he's using a quote from me on the cover, but other than that I have no business association with the sale of this book and don't make any money from the sale of the book, so this really is a friendly suggestion and not a ploy for me to earn money.] -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com http://www.davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac Mini or what? (Chris Bell)
Chris, I have a Mac mini and it has scored and played back everything from unaccompanied flute to full orchestra without a hitch using the Garritan sounds! Hope this helps! Mike McGowan On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: Send Finale mailing list submissions to finale@shsu.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to finale-requ...@shsu.edu You can reach the person managing the list at finale-ow...@shsu.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Finale digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Mac Mini or what? (Chris Bell) -- Forwarded message -- From: Chris Bell ch...@directionsinmusic.com To: finale@shsu.edu Cc: Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:57:37 +0100 Subject: Re: [Finale] Mac Mini or what? Get an iMac + extra screen On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:00 PM, GERALD BERG wrote: After a very long time I am upgrading my everything. The latest printer conversation was most edifying. I have an oldish Mac desktop and am wishing to upgrade it. I only need the desktop computer for music (so I don't need to go on a hi res junket) but do get a lot of instruments clanging away all at once. Also I wish to go for a multi monitor set up. Would the Mac mini work for this or should I get something a little more advanced? All suggestions welcome. TIA Gerald Berg ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- *Mike McGowanDirector of Instrumental MusicPanola College*[image: http://www.panola.edu/about/images/100honorroll-color.jpg] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] File manager error, when trying to save.
I am currently working on a symphony pops score in Finale 2010. I just tried to save it and got this message... While attempting to access the TemporySaveFile The file manager reported an error. So I thought I'd best make another copy of the score so I attempted to do a save as, but I got the same message. I then tried to globally copy everything in case I had to start a new template, and I got this messgae... While attempting to access the EnigmaTemp171185 The file manager reported an error. Any ideas, I'm too scared to close the file? Mike Greensill Finale 2010, intel iMac www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] File manager error, when trying to save.
Thanks GuysI did have auto save on, so I only lost 15 minutes workwhich the way my brain is working these days ain't much work! I opened it in 2012 and it seems OK. I was using 2010 because that's where my template was. Time to put in the work and get up to speed in 2012. Mike G. On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote: If AutoSave is on, then it is possible that the last one of those is OK - missing whatever happened in between, of course. If you can salvage an AS version, the next thing to do would be to check for a corrupted preference file. This used to happen a lot in 2010 - so much so that I always kept a copy of my preference file handy to use as a replacement when they got corrupted. I remember this same frustration - it happened often in 2010. Chuck On May 13, 2013, at 4:49 PM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: what about save as? i suppose the same thing, just checking ah, seem to have skipped the line where you mentioned this. also try auto-backup with same procedure you probably have only lost information back to the last save... (we hope) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Love Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com cell - 707 235 5107 home - 707 967 9491 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] F2012: How to stop chord playback for specific instruments?
The simplest way to avoid chord playback is go to the Chord Menu and un-check Enable Chord Playback. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Score Manager
I have to admit that I don't much like the 'score manager' and have gone back to 2010/11 for work that needs to be done in a hurry. Other innovations like 'linked parts' I seemed to have been able to integrate pretty quickly into my work flow. But there's part of me that thinks, this is a great program, it can do amazingly complicated things, and I know how to manipulate it...so I don't need anymore improvements. I'm wasting time learning new things that may or may not help me to write better music, but in the mean time I could be practicing, or actually writing more! Let's face it, as a notation program, Finale is already great. I'm fed up with $$$ per year for so-called improvements. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes
Hello all, I have encountered a problem with Bill Duncan's ChordSuf font- namely the (addX) suffix (it is not recognized, even if it is already in my library when typing into score). I can create it easily if I enter it manually (in the chord definition dialog box) but if I type into score it will not work. Nor will it work if I create the suffix from scratch in the chord suffix editor window. In each of those cases, I get unwanted characters. I suppose this has something to do with Finale's Unicode font support? Has anyone encountered this specific problem and is there a way around it? Many thanks! Mike Casteel ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes
Thanks for the tip, Doug. I will definitely be using this until we (hopefully) find a solution. It makes no sense to me how creating it in the chord definition dialog box garners the desired results but in other places there seems to be this disconnect. Nick Carter even sent me an updated font and FAN file- I just get different wrong characters. Here's hoping someone else has encountered this and has some ideas. Mike On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Doug Walter wrote: Hi Chuck and Mike, While this won't solve the underlying issue you're both talking about, I thought it would be worth mentioning another input method that can work in these situations that doesn't require using the mouse (which you may already know about). The drag is that is requires memorizing the suffix's placement in the library - the number of the box that it occupies (assuming the suffix exists already, of course). While in Type into Score, you type the letter name of the root, followed by a colon, followed by the number of the slot from the library (e.g. my add9 happens to be in slot 22, so if I type C:22 I get that symbol). If you don't have too many suffixes that you need to do this way, it's not too cumbersome, although obviously it would be preferable to be able to just type as we do for the other ones. Again, you probably know this already, but may not have had reason to use it in this context. Doug On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: I have a similar problem with sus4 suffixes. I assumed that it was because of the special keystrokes required to create the superscript text, key combinations I don't have reason to remember after having created the suffixes I need. I always have to enter those suffixes by going into dialog boxes and selecting them. If there is an easy Type Into Score method for this, I'd be grateful to know it too. Chuck On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Mike Casteel mike.cast...@mac.com wrote: Hello all, I have encountered a problem with Bill Duncan's ChordSuf font- namely the (addX) suffix (it is not recognized, even if it is already in my library when typing into score). I can create it easily if I enter it manually (in the chord definition dialog box) but if I type into score it will not work. Nor will it work if I create the suffix from scratch in the chord suffix editor window. In each of those cases, I get unwanted characters. I suppose this has something to do with Finale's Unicode font support? Has anyone encountered this specific problem and is there a way around it? Many thanks! Mike Casteel ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Bill Duncan chord suffix woes
Thanks Darcy! You and Chuck were the ones I had hoped to hear from about this. Unfortunately, it looks like we're stuck. I had already taken all of the steps you mentioned below. I had just hoped that I had missed a step in the process. Bummer. Thanks again to Doug for refreshing my memory about the :slot# method. Mike On Dec 17, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Mike, Adding Unicode support to Finale 2012 has, uh, complicated the use of Bill Duncan's fonts, which have always been a bit buggy from a font-encoding perspective. First, quit Finale, then make sure all the Duncan fonts are listed in the MacSymbolFonts.txt document -- located at ~/Library/Application Support/MakeMusic/Finale 2012/Configuration Files. (If you're on Lion or Mountain Lion, the user Library folder is hidden -- you'll need to hold down the option key while invoking the Go menu to access your Library.) After relaunching Finale, this should fix the problem with the suffix not displaying, even if it's already in your library -- or you should be able to create a new suffix from scratch. You still won't be able to use Type Into Score anymore for most Duncan suffixes, that is completely broken using this font in Finale 2012. You'll have to use the colon-followed-by-chord-ID method. I'd hoped that switching to the new OTF versions from NPC Imaging would fix these issues with the Bill Duncan fonts once and for all. Unfortunately, the NPC versions of the chord fonts are actually even worse, with many glyphs not displaying at all in Finale 2012. It would be great if these fonts could be fixed at some point, but I'm not sure whether demand for these fonts (only available as part of the Finale Productivity bundle) warrants the expense of sorting all these issues out once and for all. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Mike Casteel mike.cast...@mac.com wrote: Hello all, I have encountered a problem with Bill Duncan's ChordSuf font- namely the (addX) suffix (it is not recognized, even if it is already in my library when typing into score). I can create it easily if I enter it manually (in the chord definition dialog box) but if I type into score it will not work. Nor will it work if I create the suffix from scratch in the chord suffix editor window. In each of those cases, I get unwanted characters. I suppose this has something to do with Finale's Unicode font support? Has anyone encountered this specific problem and is there a way around it? Many thanks! Mike Casteel ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Navigating layers in Speedy Entry
In speedy you can use shift-arrow up/down for changing layers. Mike Den 03/05/2012 kl. 09.37 skrev Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net: In Windows, the shortcut keys for switching layers are Alt-Shift-n, where n is a number from 1 to 4. Not sure about Mac. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Taylor Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:15 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Navigating layers in Speedy Entry Can anyone kindly explain for me how I can navigate layers in Speedy Entry without having to take my hand off the number pad and grab the mouse? The manual says the keyboard shortcut is the double quote (inverted commas) key, similar to the single quote for changing voices, but in 20 years of using Finale I've never been able to make this work. Does it work for anybody or is it just me? I wonder if it could it be something to do with the differences between US and UK keyboard layouts. I've tried every key on my UK keyboard but maybe the keyboard mapping doesn't include this character. Can I enter a Unicode or ASCII code? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Navigating layers in Speedy Entry
I should say this works on Mac. Mike Den 03/05/2012 kl. 09.37 skrev Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net: In Windows, the shortcut keys for switching layers are Alt-Shift-n, where n is a number from 1 to 4. Not sure about Mac. Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Taylor Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:15 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Navigating layers in Speedy Entry Can anyone kindly explain for me how I can navigate layers in Speedy Entry without having to take my hand off the number pad and grab the mouse? The manual says the keyboard shortcut is the double quote (inverted commas) key, similar to the single quote for changing voices, but in 20 years of using Finale I've never been able to make this work. Does it work for anybody or is it just me? I wonder if it could it be something to do with the differences between US and UK keyboard layouts. I've tried every key on my UK keyboard but maybe the keyboard mapping doesn't include this character. Can I enter a Unicode or ASCII code? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] REALLY deleting items - can it be done?
Thanks to everyone for your replies. I dug in early this morning and finished the job. Tedious doesn't begin to describe it but I'm happy it's finished (all 700+ pages of it)! As for the problem - even though I received 2011 files, I think they were created with a much earlier version (back from the staff expression/score expression days). None of the existing expressions were categorized and would show up in the strangest places at the strangest times! Oh well, lesson learned. Thanks again! This list provides valuable information for so many. I hope you all have a wonderful holiday season. All the best, Mike Mike Casteel Nashville, TN mike.cast...@mac.com http://casteelmusicservice.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] REALLY deleting items - can it be done?
Hello all, I'm working on some scores that originated from someone else. My only task is to do simple part layout (for only a few of the many parts), however when I manage parts, random expressions show up in the parts (on every managed part stave) - expressions from staves that I previously deleted. I have tried Data Check (remove deleted items) but at this point, I'm at a loss as to how to streamline this process. My hunch is the person that did the initial input for these scores was careless in their expression assignment and that may be a bell I can't un-ring. Any insight you can give is greatly appreciated. Mike (2011 Mac) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hiding clefs in score view
Yes, the Staff Style does work. You have to use transposition set to clef. (If the instrument is transposing be sure that you choose the appropriate transposition.) Mike 2011/9/24 Jan Angermüller j...@angermueller.com Staff Style does not work as it hides all clefs - also the regular clefs at the beginning of each staff line. Only the extra clefs for hidden cue notes should be hidden. Jan Am 24.09.2011 00:13, schrieb J D Thomas: Staff Style? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Jan Angermüller wrote: Is there a way of hiding extra clefs in a measure only in score view ? The clefs are used for cue notes on a cue note layer which should only be shown in part view. The cue notes on the layer can be hidden in the document options, but I didn't find a way to hide the clefs. Thanks a lot for your help, Jan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Mange hilsner Mike Mike Cholewa Folkevej 19 DK-2820 Gentofte Denmark Phone + 45 3967 4004 Mob. +45 6077 5504 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Forcing ties to previous note
I'm working on an orchestration with a coda, where the first note of the coda, an eighth note, needs to have a backward tie, as it is tied to a note 40 bars earlier before you jump to the coda. But because the bar before the coda is empty (the bar going back to the D.S.), attempting to force a tie to a previous note doesn't work. Is there a way to get the tie to show up, other than faking it by creating slurs that look like ties on every note? I'm using FIN10 Mac for this project. Thanks, Stephen Lamb Nashville, TN Hi Stephen, If playback isn't an option, I would create a staff style that hides repeat endings and repeat bars. Make your to Coda bar a backwards repeat with 1st ending and the first bar of the Coda the 2nd ending - force the tie and hide the repeats. Best, Mike Casteel Nashville, TN ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Chord symbol library woes
I just arrived at my hotel for an out of town gig and was doing some last minute tweaking on a couple of charts this morning. I opened my files and the chord symbol suffixes were gibberish! The fonts are right (Bill Duncan ChordSym and ChordSuf) but the library is whacked. I'm working on a new MacBook Pro and I know that I have missed something in the porting over of fonts, FAN files or something. Any ideas? It seems to have more to do with the library than anything else. I have opened other files and the same thing happens in all of them. Many thanks! Mike ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Naming PDFs
Does anyone know of a way to logically name PDFs so they appear in score order within a folder? Back in the days of part extraction, it was easy to add the staff number (%n), but now with linked parts, it seems to have added a step in my process of managing large batches of PDFs. Thanks! Mike Casteel ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] part names
When I'm sure I'm finished with the score I still make a separate copy of the file for the parts. Then all I have to think about is what's needed for the parts and not give a damn if it affects anything in the score. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition
A lot of early and mid-20th century bands would switch cornet players to Eb tuba. They could read a non-transposed tuba part in treble clef and use cornet fingerings! Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote: To me it is an octave key in that low register. Look at the fingering: Eb 1 low eb 1-4 d 1-2 low d 1-2-4 Db 2-3 low db 2-3-4 c 1-3 low c 1-3-4 B 1-2-3 low b 1-2-3-4 So from eb down, pressing 4 lowers the pitch an octave Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. On May 10, 2010, at 10:40 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote: The Franco-Flemish band tradition writes for Eb and BBb tubas and for euphonium/bass trombone in transposed bass clef. On compensating low brasses the 4th valve is not an octave key. It is a fourth valve, as in the interval of a fourth. Like with a compensating horn the 4th valve loop is rerouted through the valves, and compensating loops are added to improve the pitch. The pitches of the two notes right above the open pedal note are sharp on compensating instruments unless one has a main tuning slide trigger like I have had mounted on my YEP-641 comp euphonium or a push rod like on my Marzan comp euph. Hirsbrunner and Miraphone have issued models with triggers on the valve slides. For technical reasons it is very complicated to apply triggers to compensating tubas, so I don’t have triggers on my compers in F, Eb, and BBb. The compensating F tubas are extremely rare and were only made in 1923, 1961 and a some point of time before 2000. My sample i s from 1923 and it was one of these Vaughan Williams wrote his conce rt for. There also are a few 3 valve compensating tubas in CC, but I haven’t come by one yet. Klaus --- On Tue, 5/11/10, Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu wrote: From: Williams, Jim jwilli...@franklincollege.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Slightly OT: Tuba Transposition To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 3:38 AM More tuba trivia: A four-valve non-compensating tuba is not fully chromatic in the low register. With an Eb tuba, 4 valves, no compensating, low a is 2-4, ab is 1-4, g is 2-3-4, gb is 1-3-4 (and sharp), f is 1-2-3-4 and very sharp and low e natural doesn't exist. For a BBb tuba with 4 valves, move everything down a fourth. With 4 valves and the automatic compensating system, tubas are fully chromatic down to the pedal note and the 4th valve is an octave key. So with the compensator, on an Eb tuba, low a natural is 2-4, ab is1-4, g is 1-2-4, gb is 2-3-4, f is 1-3-4, and low e natural is 1-2-3-4 and still a bit sharp. Again, for BBb tubas with 4 valves and compensation, move everything down a fourth. In British brass bands, all the tubas and euphoniums are four-valves with the compensating system. In your case, it depends upon the band. The compensating 4-valve tuba in BBb weighs as much as a Citroen. I could also say it sounds like one but I won't. Right now I am going to pick up my compensating four-valve euphonium and practice it instead of posting. Sent from my iPhone, so please pardon all the typos. On May 10, 2010, at 9:20 PM, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote: At 5:15 PM -0700 5/10/10, Ryan wrote: When a writing for tuba, the part should be written at sounding (concert) pitch, correct? If the performer is using an Eb tuba, they don't need a transposed part, do they? Here's the situation, a group in France wants some of my band music. However, they use Eb horns and Eb tubas. No problem to transpose the horn parts for them, but I thought that Eb Tubists read concert pitch parts and just learn different fingerings for the notes. Any low notes that are out of range (Ab and below) are automatically played an octave higher. Perhaps in France the current practice is different? Would the transposition be similar to that of the Bari Sax? It's a community group and I don't think the volunteer person (the librarian, I think) I'm dealing with is particularly musically inclined. Also, I'm sure that some things are getting lost in translation. Anyone have any idea what they're looking for? There are questions you need to ask, or else produce alternate parts for. Orchestral and band tubas in the U.S. all read from bass clef at concert pitch, yes. British brass band tubas, however, read from transposed parts in TREBLE CLEF. A French band could need either kind of part; it isn't possible to guess in advance. And yes, it would similar to a bari sax transposed part. As to the low range, it depends entirely on whether the Eb tubas are 3-valve or 4-valve. And you can't guess that without asking, either. With a 3-valve Eb tuba A natural is the lowest clear note, but notes below that, down to the pedal Eb, can be forced by an experienced player--not fun and not a great sound. With a 4-valve Eb that range is filled in and possible, but it's getting pretty low for an Eb
RE: [Finale] repeats and endings
Many of the old marches (certainly the ragtime marches) used an unusual repeat system: the first strain has a first ending, second ending which moves to the 2nd strain, and a fine' ending. After the third strain, one will D.S. back to the first strain and take the fine' ending. Although this seems simple, three endings after the first strain blew my little community college group away for the first few rehearsals. Consequently, modern editions of these old marches will write out the last return to A instead of a D.S. (I think somebody mentioned doing this in an earlier posting.) My two cents McGowan -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of John Howell Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:53 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] repeats and endings At 9:33 PM +0100 3/22/10, dc wrote: I have a piece with three endings, where 1 3 are identical. Is it kosher to put them both under the same bracket, say, with 1. 3. and then 2. Thanks, Dennis I would say not, unless what follows 3 is exactly what follows 1. The purpose of multiple endings is not only to accommodate open and closed endings but to send you on your way to the next section or back to a repeat mark. When sightreading there is more potential confusion in multiple endings if you actually have to READ what they say instead of just advancing to the next one in line. John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html We never play anything the same way once. Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Time Signatures in MS Word documents
Michael, This is what I do for my theory handouts, exams, etc: Any musical notation object like a time signature that I can not port over to Word using one of the notation fonts becomes an image file in Finale. That image file is then inserted into Word (or PowerPoint, Publisher, etc.) HTH McGowan -- From: Michael Lawlor m_law...@btinternet.com Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:54 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] OT Time Signatures in MS Word documents Does anyone have any suggestions on methods for typing/inserting time signatures in WORD documents, ideally so that the numbers are vertically in line? Michael Lawlor ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] ASIO, Finale 2010 and EMU 1616m HELP!
Howdy! I am a new member to this list, so please forgive in advance if this question has been answered. I am running finale 2010 on Dell XP box: dual processors, 4 gigs of ram, EMU 1616m audio. About a month ago, playback got REALLY weird: sometimes playback would continue after the end with sounds from a random section, during playback layered sounds would occur, and sometimes playback would not start at all! OK, I contacted Finale and tech support said the problem was the ASIO driver: change it to direct sound. However, even though I have deleted the old configuration files, the ASIOMME.dll driver still loads and the weird MIDI playback persists. This is driving me insane-I have eight big band charts I HAVE to finish for a client with the reference audio files in a couple of weeks. This setup worked great for months and then something changed! SAVE ME!! Mike McGowan ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2010 announced
I thought it might be interesting to copy and paste a posting from Andrew at MM that was on the Finale Forums. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com New Features in Finale 2010 Easier Percussion Entry. Entering percussion has been greatly simplified with on-screen feedback that displays the percussion instrument you are about to enter. New Percussion Layouts. Assigning the staff position and notehead for percussion instrument staves has never been easier with Finale's new percussion layouts. Percussion MIDI Maps. To assign the appropriate MIDI notes to your percussion parts automatically when you change the playback instrument, use the Percussion Map column of the Instrument List. Beat-attached Chord Symbols. Chord symbols are now beat-attached, and no longer require a host note or rest. Notes beneath chords can be edited autonomously. Improved Chord Playback. Chord symbols now play for the duration of the measure, or to the next chord symbol. Simply type N.C. (for no chord) to interrupt chord playback. Improved Chord Input. Type-in and/or Play-in chords without changing modes. Chord scaling. Chord symbols resize with the page automatically. Chords and fretboards can be scaled for a whole document in Document Options-Chords, or for a region using the Change Chord Assignments dialog box. Automatic Rehearsal Marks. Adding, deleting, and ordering rehearsal marks is now simple and completely automatic. Improved MusicXML. Finale’s updated MusicXML capabilities include enhanced recognition of chord symbols and fretboards. Alternate Notation. Finale now offers more control over what elements are shown or hidden when you apply alternate notation. Music Education Worksheets. Finale now includes hundreds of ready- made, educator-approved, music education worksheets. Improved Graphic Support. Finale now supports more graphic file types for import AND export. New import support includes JPEG, PNG, BMP, and GIF while new export support includes JPEG and PNG. Broadway Copyist Handwritten Music Notation Font. Finale 2010 includes the new Broadway Copyist music notation font, created by Robert Piechaud, designer of the esteemed November and Medieval music fonts. Inspired by the golden era of handwritten Broadway scores, the Broadway Copyist font offers a lighter appearance. Audio and Playback Enhancements (including support of VST/AU Effects Plug-ins). Finale 2010 now supports VST/AU effects plug-ins, includes the Garritan Ambience reverb plug-in, and offers expanded volume control. Export Lyrics. Finale’s Lyrics Tool makes it easy to export all or part of your lyrics to a word-processing document, and offers new controls to edit your lyrics (adding verse/chorus designations not found in your score, for example) before you export to the clipboard. Improved Scanning/SmartScore Lite Enhancements. Finale now includes SmartScore Lite version 5, offering the best music scanning ever. A new interface lets you specify the instrumentation of the scanned staves, ensuring transposing instruments are translated correctly. Improved Help. Not only is Finale easier to use, finding help when you need it is easier too! You will notice a cleaner Help Menu, convenient User Manual welcome screen, and improved topic organization. Powerful filters allow for targeted searches, which allow you to eliminate clutter and quickly identify the content you need. Fixes in Finale 2010 Chords and Fretboards Removing manual adjustments on chord symbols and fretboards no longer deselects their handles. Alignment arrows for positioning fretboards no longer continue to show when switching to a document without fretboards. Position Fretboards no longer becomes checked when no fretboards are showing, then switching from a document where they are. Copying Stack-copying and pasting music with a pickup measure no longer clears the pickup measure setting in the target document. Documentation The correct version of the EntryExercise.mus file is now installed in the Tutorials folder. Document Options The obsolete Expressions checkbox in Document Options-Music Spacing has been removed. Exercise Wizard NC and IL exercises are now installed. Expressions Inserting a non-stack selection preceding a measure containing a layer attached expression no longer hangs Finale. Layer Assignments for Expressions are now retained when copied. Adding staves to an extracted part no longer causes Expressions (that were used in the original score) to appear in the newly added staves. Deleting measures no longer causes Expressions assigned to Score Lists to disappear from parts. Keyboard shortcuts The shortcut for Insert from Clip File (Option-Command-I) is no longer conflicted with the shortcut for opening the Audio Unit Instruments dialog box. MIDI files In a MIDI file, notes tied to the last note of a Tuplet now
Re: [Finale] Fin2010 announced
After having watched the videos on the new chord entry and rehearsal marks featuresI think the rotters are going to draw me in again. The chord entry will sure save me a lot of timebut $99 worth? Arghh, I guess so. I bought the last upgrade just to be able to edit on multiple pages. I wish the upgrades were more like 2 years apart and therefore included more for your money. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2010 announced
I didn't notice on a quick scan of the promo ... is Fin 10 available as we speak? Dean No. They just want our money now. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] JW Space Systems in Finale 2009
I use regularly JW Space Systems in Finale 2009 without any problem. It seems to be the version of PDK Tools that's the culprit as I use the same version of JW Space Systems. My version of PDK Tools is 2.16. Please contact me if you still need this file. Mike -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Marc Shepherd Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:59 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] JW Space Systems in Finale 2009 I have recently upgraded to Finale 2009, after making do for several years with Finale 2005. One of the casualties seems to be the JW Space Systems plug-in. Finale 2009 hangs and then crashes whenever I attempt to run this plug-in. I have Windows version 2.10 of PDK Tools and version 1.08 of JW Space Systems. Both work fine on Finale 2005, the last version I used before 2009. Is this a known problem, and are there more up-to-date versions of either package? It is remarkable how much use I have gotten out of that tiny little plug-in. After all of these years, JW Space Systems has useful functionality that I have not found any other easy way of replicating. Any help would be appreciated. -- Marc Shepherd New York, NY oakap...@cris.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Speedy entry in Finale 2009?
I'm surprised they seemed to have dropped Speedy Note Entry from 2009. Have they? I won't be getting it if so..and I was about to order it. I was impressed with Bernards description of his conversion to simple entry, but speedy works so well for me..why would I want to invest all that time and frustration in learning a new method. There's beer to be consumed. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Functional harmony symbols font
Sibelius 5 comes with a TrueType font with functional harmony symbols (Opus Function Symbols). Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haroldo Mauro Jr. Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:52 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Functional harmony symbols font Hi, Does anyone know of a font that has functional harmony symbols? I've been looking around for the past two days but found nothing. Thank you Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbol fonts
Why isn't there a direct link to the Chord Suffix editor? Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Lyrics conundrum
I'm in the middle of a very long chart that originally had a D.S al Coda. But the page turns to go back were not workable so I'm going to write it straight through. The chart involves a vocal line with verse one and verse two lyrics on the original D.S.. So I copied the music and lyrics to the new measures I attached to the end of the chart. So now of course I need to get rid of verse two in the first section and verse one in the second section. Is there a way to do this, with mass mover or a plug-in? If I just try and erase verse one in the added section, it erases them in the first section as well. I presume because I copied them there. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] font for Bach style ornaments
You might try and download a Sibelius demo. In the Opus Special (and/or the Helsinki Special) font there are a couple of baroque style ornaments. As a commercial alternative to Ansgar Krause's font you might check out the GRUPETTO font from Bayard-Nizet. Mike -Original Message- - snip - I need one little ornament and I am not so happy to buy Ansgar Krause's font for that, are there freeware fonts for Bach style ornaments? The one I need looks somewhat like this: (/\/\/\) if you know what I mean... Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Staff List problem
I have just added two staves to an existing score and am trying to edit the staff lists to include the new staves. But the staff list dialogue box is completely unresponsive. It won't let me add anything on the score or the parts. Any ideas. Now I've made up a brand new template with the setup wizard and the same thing applies. Can't edit OR create new staff lists. This has happened to me before and I can't remember whether there's a solution or whether it just goes away. The question is, has this happened to anyone else? Finale 2007c. 17 powerbook. 1.5 megs RAM Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff List problem
Here's a weird thing. I have had this problem as follows. I put the mac to sleep with Finale, Safari and Mail open..and often when I wake it up Finale quits. Of course I now make sure I save before putting it to sleep. So it just happened again and guess what.I open the file I was working on and the Staff Lists are now working fine. Go figure. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] FinWin - Making Dolet be usable both with version 2005 and2006
Yes! Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of themark Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:00 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] FinWin - Making Dolet be usable both with version 2005 and2006 I installed Neuratron Photoscore v.3.00. When installing Dolet I had to choose only one path and decided to put it in 2005 plugins folder. Can I simply copy the files into 2006 plugins folder to make it available when using that version? Thanks Marcello ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Staff lists not responding
I know this subject came up in 2006 because it happened to me then, but I can't remember the solution. I can't seem to, either edit or produce new, staff lists in 2007a. This is on a document originally produced on an earlier Finale, 2002 I think, and copied and inserted into a 2007 template. The dialogue box is just unresponsive. Nothing happens when one clicks. BTW is anyone else still having the jumping pages problem in page view? And I also have an occasional strange happening when I produce a measure expression. I'll create it, choose This Staff Only and when I press OK it appears for an instant on the score then disappears. Nowhere to be found. I'll try it again and it's just fine. Mike Greensill - Finale 2007a - 17 mac powerbook www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] drum notation (jazz)
Chuck Thank you for sharing. Very, very helpful to look at your drum parts! Much to learn there. I have to admit that until recently often the one part I would still copy by hand was the drums. So much quicker. Christopher has solved one mystery.I was going to ask about the 3D effect for the sign and coda. And was sorry to hear of Bill Duncan's passing, I always meant to buy his fonts! I wonder if it will still be possible. I like the slightly larger time signatures and the thicker multimeasure rests. And Christopher makes a compelling argument for notating every measure. I've now done two projects in 2007a and so far I think I really like linked parts. But I'm sure that wouldn't have been the case If I hadn't closely followed all the experimenting and angsting done by all you folk. What a great list. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] drum notation (jazz)
Dear Chuck/Bob Would you be willing to share with us just a snippit of one of your drum parts. So that we can see your methods. I don't quite understand the slashes in layer 1 and cues in layer 3 part. Do you put the slashes, as usual in the middle of the stave to indicate time, and the cues when needed above the staff? How do you deal with long stretches of just playing? I produce multimeasure rests in the part, make them blank with staff styles, then use the expression tool to write in the staff PLAY 8 etc. just as if I was doing the part by hand. Is there an easier way? Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Engraver Time Font
I would have been glad to answer this question. But when I tried to access Bill Duncan's website I learned to my great dismay that he has passed away. His Finale Productivity Pack (the modified version of BigTime is a part of this pack) is a tremendous resource and help in my daily work with Finale. See for your self: http://www.gwmp.com/ You may this page which are is longer linked from the main page: http://www.gwmp.com/FinaleProductivityFrameset.htm Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:36 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Engraver Time Font Hi, I'm working on a score using the large time signatures from the Engraver Time font. But I need the cut-time character which isn't included. I seem to remember that someone had modified this font in the past to include this. Does anyone have any information where I can find this? Thanks in advance FM ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Joining again?
Hej Stig! Du kan subskribere på finalelisten her: http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Mange hilsner Mike Mike Cholewa Folkevej 19 DK-2820 Gentofte Denmark Phone (+45) 3967 4004 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stig Christensen Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 3:27 PM To: Finale List Subject: [Finale] Joining again? Hello, I have just returned from a long trip and now I have to do some work in Finale. Therefore I would like to rejoin the list. Is that possible? regards Stig Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] +4539902526/+4526212425 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale and playback and various ramblings.
I'm sure that everyones use of Finale differs in some way or another, but it does seem to me that if an as near as one can get it to live sounding home recording of what one has written is what you're after, then a separate program to achieve that would seem the most logical to me. My use of Finale is to write arrangements from big band to symphony pops. So I want to be able to enter notes as quickly as possible, hear them back with a reasonable facsimile of their corresponding sounds (the saxophones will forever sound crappy) and then be able to print out parts with less trouble and in less time than it used to take me to copy them by hand. And it's the last part where Finale could do with the most improvement. I love having all the tweaking tools that are essential to the engravers but I would like to see better music spacing and page layout that would look good automatically. Even though I'm not an engraver I do like to see the parts appear almost good enough to publish. I'm sure that achieving a standard that everyone would agree looks pretty good out of the box is almost impossible, but I sure wish it was better than it is now. The music spacing I especially find awful and even after using Finale for 15 years ( I'm sure it's my fault for not filling out all the measurments correctly, in all the various boxes) the distance between staves after I extract parts ALWAYS needs to be changed. I do feel, especially after reading the posts of the incredibly skilled and computer savvy folks on this list, that even though I'm a long time user and avid manual reader I can't help but think that, along with most computer programs, I only know half of it. Thanks for listening to the ramblings of a loyal Finale user. I don't need to told that Sibleus can do all of that :) I haven't learnt this program yet! Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?
I have experienced this behavior in WinFin2k7 too. It only concerns Speedy Entry. In Simple Entry there's no problem. I guess it's a bug. Mike Cholewa WinFin2k7 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Caldwell Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:11 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up? Perhaps I've gone temporarily insane (well, more insane than usual)... I try this in Speedy Entry with a MIDI keyboard: Enter C - C# - D I then try to force a natural on the D with '*'. Nothing happens. I can put one in parentheses, but not by itself. This doesn't happen to all notes though. It seems to occur in rising chromatic scales such as the example I give. I opened a default document and tried it again, same thing. I opened a default doc in Finale2k6, enter the same notes, and it gives me the natural as it should. It also works if I don't use a MIDI keyboard while in Speedy Entry. Could someone please tell me what program or document setting I am neglecting to notice in 2007, and then show me where Allen Funt is hiding??? This can't possibly be a bug. Thanks, Rich Caldwell MacFin2k7 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up?
In Speedy Entry try to enter c e f g, change the e to f flat (enharmonic flip), then try to hide the flat with *. I t isn't possible. I know you wouldn't probably want to hide this accidental but I have encountered situations where you would want to show the accidental after an enharmonic flip and it wasn't possible in speedy. I changed to Simple and it worked there. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhbailey Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:58 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Accidentals - what's up? Mike Cholewa wrote: I have experienced this behavior in WinFin2k7 too. It only concerns Speedy Entry. In Simple Entry there's no problem. I guess it's a bug. Mike Cholewa WinFin2k7 Maybe I'm not understanding the problem, but I just tried it in winfin2007, default document, single staff, entered C, C#, D -- then with the cursor on D I hit the * key and the natural shows up. Could you be more specific in listing the steps you're following where the natural isn't showing up? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] 2007 printing question MM's response
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Israels - snip - Finale 2007/Program Options/Save and Print/uncheck Use Finale's Page Orientation Instead of the Printer's Page Orientation - snip - Could someone please tell where this option resides in WinFin2k7? Is this a Mac only option? Under Finale 2007/Program Options I only have a save option not a print option. Mike ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] MacOSX Inserting ETF
Try to make an EPS of the page where you inserted the EPS and print this final EPS. It has worked on WinXP. In fact I've made a pdf of this final EPS. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Patterson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:18 AM To: Finale Subject: [Finale] MacOSX Inserting ETF I know there has been a lot of discussion about EPS and Finale's continuing lack of support. But I thought it had been addressed. Using Finale I created an incipit as an EPS. Now I want to reinsert it into another Finale file. This has always worked for me in the past, but I haven't done it in a while. (Probably not since before I switched to OS X.) Now when I print, I just get the crappy preview. Not the actual EPS. Any tips? -- Robert Patterson http://RobertGPatterson.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Donald Rice's Golden Age font
It seems that all the files in the zip file are corrupt. I have tried different extractors to no avail. However, the single file (GoldenAgeTitle.ttf) works ok. Zip files made on Mac may have a tendency to be corrupt. I have seen it before. It is better to use stuffit. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Williams, Jim Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:31 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Donald Rice's Golden Age font Has anyone tried it on Win XP? I have tried several things and can't get past the invalid font file thing. Advice??? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] subtext for alternate bass
I can't seem to find how to make subtext the default style for alternate bass chords rather than after root. BTW Dennis' suggestion for a page style feature is the most brilliant yet. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] subtext for alternate bass
If you are using the type into score option you just need to write something like D7_A Thanks Rafael..I didn't know that one! Yours Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] subtext for alternate bass
D|C (that's the shift backslash, vertical line) gives an alternate bass note at about a 45 degree angle down to the right.Christopher That's the one I was looking for! I thanked Rafael before I'd tried his method which turns out not to be the one I wanted. I also don't like the vertical arrangement. It's hard to sight read quickly. I always want the bass note to the right of the chord and I find the horizontal default to be hard on the eye. I now thank you both. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Midi solved-Thanks Hiro
Thanks so much Hiro, I finally received the MOTU Fastlane and it has solved my problems. Maybe the mac edition of Finale should come with a separate midi for dummies booklet, giving suggestions and warning against just using the usb connection. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] If it isn't one thing it's another
Dear Hiro and all The latest midi adventure is ..if I use soft synth, my keyboard only sounds if i'm in speedy entry. Any other tool and there's silence. If I use quicktime, it works all the time, but those sounds are crappy. I'm not gonna mess with GPO! Mike Greensill 2006c powerbook G3 2meg ram www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Continual midi problems
I'm back to having midi problems, can anyone help? Finale (2006c) will not recognize my midi keyboard (Radium 49 - USB connection) on my mac powerbook (10.4.5) both after I've put the computer to sleep and after it's been shut down. Here's the hoops I have to go to make it work: When I initially open Finale it tells me that it's expecting my keyboard etc. Sure enough the keyboard is greyed out in both the audio midi box and the midi set up box. I use scan for midi option in case it might work, but it never does. So I close Finale and restart the computer. I open Finale again and still it doesn't work. I close Finale and open it one more time and Hey Presto it works. BUT WHY IS THIS HAPPENING! It takes me 10 minutes just to start any work. Any ideas? Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Melody
Very nice piece John, I think you've nailed it except for a couple of points. And each and every style period has begun in reaction to that by returning to simplicity and emphasizing melody. John Unfortunately the current reaction to even the modest effort that it takes to appreciate the American Songbook has now resulted in the masses giving up melody as well. Rap! (a) anything worthwhile requires hard work, and that (b) anything that doesn't require hard work is not worthwhile. As an example of circular reasoning it is brilliant. As a description of reality it is not..John You seem to make the point that it's an either or situation. I think it's much greyer than that. The reason kids have given up melody is because they never get to sing it and never get to hear it. The appreciation of any music does take effort and our kids used to get it in school whether they wanted it or not. It was part of ones education. Now here in the States music is almost nonexistant in public schools. This was brought home to me a couple of years ago at a ballgame where I found myself amid a crowd of 12 and 13 year olds. Not one of them came anywhere close to being able to sing even a portion of the melody of Take Me Out To The Ballgame. If kids aren't taught melody they won't ever be able to hear it! It's not Latin but it's good for you. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Melody
But, almost nonexistent? Surely an exaggeration.Phil I only have local knowledge. And unfortunately here in the mostly wonderful city of San Francisco, except for the performing arts high school, music programs have disappeared and it's a continous fight to provde any music. I know this because I'm on the board of Music In Schools Today and we're attempting to remedy the situation. I know in the rich suburbs where parents invest in their schools things are OK, but here in the inner city, where the need for melodic inspiration may be greatest, the kids never get to sing. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com BTW I'm enjoying all the off-topic chatter, takes my mind off my current Finale troubles. Everyday I have to start the computer, open Finale, have it tell me that it's expecting midi blah blah, then unplug the usb connection of my keyboard, plug it back in, close Finale, restart the computer, re-open Finale and presto! It works. What is that? I have all the latest drivers etc. powerbook G4 - Radium 49 - Finale 2006c ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Fenton...the throwback
Perhaps I'm a throwback to an older era when people spoke more plainly and forcefully, and did not hedge their opinions in an attempt to disguise significant disagreement and, I guess, avoid conflict. David No David, you're not a throwback. You're a very modern, rude person. Who puts down, with venom, anyone who you percieve as naive, wrong and/or computer illiterate. And you do this in the environment of the internet where bombast doesn't have to be backed up by any physical courage. And the trouble is that you're very smart and have lot's of knowledge to add to this forum. So it's a pity that I delete your posts 90% of the time. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Midi problems with 2006c
Thanks for your input Hiro! I think you're right, it's not a Finale issue. I seem to have had midi problems ever since they did away with serial ports. When I got my latest computer ( powermac G4 laptop, with no serial ports) I tried to use my Fatar controller with a midiman, midi to usb, and could never get it to work. So I purchased a usb keyboard. (M-Audio Radium 49) on which I do use the power cord and I plug the usb straight into the computer, no hub. Though I need to get one. Being computer illiterate I don't know what host CPU is! I'll see if there's a newer driver. I did get it to work yesterday by fiddling with the midi/select controls on the Radium, god knows which ones , I kept pressing the reset and midi channel keys. But sure enough this morning, same thing. Nothing un-plugged or changed and yet it didn't work. Took me another 1/2 hr of fiddling and presto there it was. But it seems like a very un-scientific method. Should I get a better keyboard? Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Midi problems with 2006c
Mike, has your computer gone to sleep with Finale still running? Mathew Thanks Mathew. Yes, I do that all the time, though overnight I usually turn everything off. I did just download the newest driver for my keyboard so I'm hoping that will help. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Midi problems with 2006c
It seems that nearly every time I open Finale now it tells me that it's expecting blah, blah, blah midi device. Of course the midi device is still connected and turned on from the last time I opened Finale. Finale seems to have forgotten. So I go to midi set-up and sure enough the midi device is greyed out. BUT, nothing I do seems to have any affect in that dialogue box, I scan for midi devices , I set up a new configuration, blah, blah, blah, then after about an hours wasted time it'll suddenly decide to work. I don't know what I've done to set if off! Is this a preference's thing? Because I've had trouble with Finale forgetting them when I open it by double clicking on a file. Don't know if it's related but I've programmed Finale's start-up action be the launch window. But it never opens when start Finale. This incredibly annoying, I'm on a deadline and can't afford this waste of time! I've been a great supporter of Finale but since system X things seem to go wrong all the time. It used to be that all the posts on these forums were questions about how to use the program, now it's all about bugs! Mac Powerbook G4 - Radium 49 - Tiger Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Beaming question
I've forgotten how to prevent Finale from beaming across all 4 eight note beats when writing two eight notes, an eight note rest, then an eight note. I'm sure it's something in the time signature set up, but what? I'm in 4/4. I do remember how to split the beam with the slash key. P.S. Has anyone purchased Bill Duncan's articulation fonts? They do look quite wonderful. Mike Greensill - 17 powermac - Finale 2006b www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Beaming question
Options | Document Options | Beams Thanks guys, that's it! If only I could remember settings in Finale as well as tunes I learnt 40 years ago. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: RTFM, no. It shouldn't be necessary.
For all those who don't think it should be grouped with Transposition, where would you want to see it?Michael I'd be happy to see it in the Utilities menu in mass mover. That's often where I look for strange things. Mike Greensill www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Little Kazoo Band
On Nov 3, 2005, at 9:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:As you might guess, the "little kazoo band" remark is what set me off. Nobody had to put up with that, ever, and the assumption behind the remark that people *did* have to put up with it just annoys the hell out of me. I have to pop in here and make a little statement on behalf of the Luddites amongst us who are musicians first and computer geeks almost not at all. There seems to me to be folks who use Finale and seem to know the ins and out of every computer operating system and how to manipulate them. And don't tell me to learn about them, I'm still spending my life trying to find out how Mahler does that thing he does. I've always been intimidated by the midi aspect of Finale and in the early days of Finale ownership spent many a wasted hour going back and forth to "Computers and Music" in SF trying to get them to make it work. I'm always amazed that computers can do these amazingly complex tasks but can't tell me which wire to plug to which slot and then which dialogue box might apply to them.So I happily put up with the "little kazoo band" (actually i thought it was quite miraculous to hear my notes played back to me in any form) and the "little kazoo band" saved me much time in rehearsal because I discovered the wrong notes ahead of time. This is all leading up to saying that I appreciate the Garritan sounds and will buy the full set and the jazz band. BUT, along with the engravers, it's the writing of the notes and the printing of them out that is of prime importance. And in that regard Finale worked much better in whatever the last version was in system 9.Mike Greensill ( 1.67 GHz G4 powerbook 17" - Finale 2006a (sometimes) - 1.5GB memory )www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] recording backups
I have written Macsupport, and Scott Yoho (who is unfailingly responsive) at MM, but they have not encountered this and cannot reproduce it (and are therefor unconcerned about fixing it - they can't find it). ChuckI can't reproduce my crashes either and this is what's scary. It can ruin your work at any time.I remember recording with them in San Francisco - some 20 + years ago (string versions of Monk's music - not their most interesting work - nor mine). Chuck Kronos recorded 3 of my charts recently at Skywalker and pro tools was used as the main recording device along with DAT back-ups. The recording process was always somewhat mysterious to me, now it's like black magic!P.S. I like the Monk album!Mike Greensillwww.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] WinFin 2k2 help
Check if the folder descriptions in Finale.ini (\Program Files\Finale2002\) are correct. They are in the [Directories] - section of the Finale.ini files. You can view and change this file with notepad. I had this problem after reinstalling windows and still keeping my old Finale settings (copying from a backup archive). Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Noel Stoutenburg Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 5:52 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] WinFin 2k2 help Friends: I seem to remember having this problem before, and submitting a tech support request, but I cannot find the response I thought I received at the time. I suspect I'll need to submit a request to them again on this matter, but it's Saturday morning In order to accomodate a client, who is still working in 2k2b, I tried to start WINFin 2k2, only to have the attempt abort the boot process, giving an warning Box, giving an error message Ctree error 18 in CT:DETAIL 821. The forum provides no support on this issue, either. Can anyone help? ns ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Maestro PS font
Maybe it is the same fontset, but when I open a postscript font file from FinWin2004 in Fontlab the Unicode encoding is different from a FinWin 2005 font file. It is most important that, unless you have Adobe Type Manager installed, the fonts should NOT go to the PSFONT folder but to the Windows font folder. Just install the font as any other (truetype) font. As far as I remember the FinWin2004 installer puts the fonts in the PSFONTS folder. This has been changed in FinWin2005. The postscript fonts now go to the Windows font folder as both Win2k and WinXP have native support for postscript fonts. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen Fisher Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 4:12 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Maestro PS font All, We have *not* released new fonts for Finale 2005. The fonts are the same as 2004. The creation date of some files reverts to the date installed (don't ask me why, because I don't know). Dennis-- I was just wondering if you were trying to copy the PS fonts directly to the fonts folder, post-install, as they sit in the PSFONTS folder after install. If they're sitting in the PSFonts folder, they should work just fine. Search your system for win.ini. Is there a section called SoftFonts in it? Allen On 1/7/05 8:45 AM, d. collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] saith: Allen Fisher écrit: How are you installing the fonts? Simply running the install? Yes, is there any other way? Or are they on the CD anywhere? Is there any possibility to download the latest versions of the fonts anywhere? I'm reluctant to uninstall Finale and install it again (and lose my registration). Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Maestro PS font
You don't say which version of Finale use. MakeMusic has made new versions of the PS fonts in FinWin2005. These versions print fine both to pdf (Adobe Acrobat) and to eps (without font inclusion)! This works on WinXp. But to earlier versions of FinWin (prior 2005) the psfont/pdf/eps question was indeed problematic. You could try to reboot the computer after changing fonts (I have experienced font problems resolved after reboot). Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of d. collins Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:23 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Maestro PS font I tried to switch my Maestro font from TT to PS. All seemed to be fine on screen. But when I print to PDF, the Maestro font simply disappears (I mean it isn't replaced by some other font): the notes are simply gone, and the font doesn't appear in the font list. Do any of you use the PS version of Maestro with Windows? Do you have any problems with PDFs? This problem doesn't occur, by the way, with any other PS font. Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Double flats
You may also try TGTools Music Respell Notes as the Mass Edit Tool function will remove any articulation or text applied to the music. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Double flats Mass Edit menu, Respell Notes will change all enharmonics to whatever you have selected in the Enharmonic Spelling menu item under Options. Christopher On Dec 19, 2004, at 2:48 PM, Crystal Premo wrote: I intend to supply the client with the song in C, with all the double flats, and with the double flats changed. In this way, she will have the best of both worlds. People who ask me for transpositions are very frequently not the most skilled singers and are participating in musical theatre on a less sophisticated level than the discussion about this topic is being conducted. Given this, is there a simpler way to achieve altering the double flats other than manually? Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Double flats Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:00:05 -0500 At 7:49 AM -0500 12/19/04, dhbailey wrote: d. collins wrote: Crystal Premo écrit: I have a client who has had me transpose The Music That Makes Me Dance up a half step, and now wants to see all of the double flats eliminated. I can understand this, but is there an easy way to achieve this? There probably is, but then the music will we completely wrong, unless you change _all_ the notes and put the piece it in the same key with sharps. What was the original key? Dennis David H. Bailey: But then there are varying ways of being wrong in this situation -- there is the wrong of the music theory world which dictates that music must be within very narrowly defined paradigms involving scales and keys and woe to anybody who alters something just to make it easy to play. Then there is the wrong of being theoretically right but much harder to perform, with tons of double-flats or double-sharps which many musicians, amateur AND pro, have great difficulty playing without a lot of practice. In this case everyone is correct, and whatever Crystal does will be a compromise. But I would suggest that before making enharmonic decisions, the person making them, whether this is Crystal or her client, take into consideration the specific instrument and its fingerings. On a stringed instrument, for example, keys with many flats will be sight-read in a lower position, possibly half position, forcing the hand lower on the fingerboard. Mixing in naturals and/or sharps at random will disturb the visual look of the fingering patterns and make sightreading unnecessarily difficult, since the player will have to translate the accidentals mentally in real time. (Yes, better fingerings can be worked out, but I'm talking about sightreading here.) The same is true for woodwinds (especially if you get into the plethora of notes controlled by the two little fingers on clarinet), and to a lesser extent on brass instruments (which have no difficult individual fingerings, but can get into difficult fingering combinations). Pianists are used to double flats and sharps and they should be left as is. Mallet players are on their own! And nobody should score for harp without serious study of its limitations and requirements. John -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Double flats
Sorry my bad. I was thinking of MassEdit Retranscribe. You're right. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darcy James Argue Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Double flats Uh, what? No it doesn't! I use Mass Edit - Respell Notes all the time and I've never seen the behavior you describe. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 19 Dec 2004, at 03:21 PM, Mike Cholewa wrote: You may also try TGTools Music Respell Notes as the Mass Edit Tool function will remove any articulation or text applied to the music. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Smith Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Double flats Mass Edit menu, Respell Notes will change all enharmonics to whatever you have selected in the Enharmonic Spelling menu item under Options. Christopher On Dec 19, 2004, at 2:48 PM, Crystal Premo wrote: I intend to supply the client with the song in C, with all the double flats, and with the double flats changed. In this way, she will have the best of both worlds. People who ask me for transpositions are very frequently not the most skilled singers and are participating in musical theatre on a less sophisticated level than the discussion about this topic is being conducted. Given this, is there a simpler way to achieve altering the double flats other than manually? Crystal Premo [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Double flats Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 13:00:05 -0500 At 7:49 AM -0500 12/19/04, dhbailey wrote: d. collins wrote: Crystal Premo écrit: I have a client who has had me transpose The Music That Makes Me Dance up a half step, and now wants to see all of the double flats eliminated. I can understand this, but is there an easy way to achieve this? There probably is, but then the music will we completely wrong, unless you change _all_ the notes and put the piece it in the same key with sharps. What was the original key? Dennis David H. Bailey: But then there are varying ways of being wrong in this situation -- there is the wrong of the music theory world which dictates that music must be within very narrowly defined paradigms involving scales and keys and woe to anybody who alters something just to make it easy to play. Then there is the wrong of being theoretically right but much harder to perform, with tons of double-flats or double-sharps which many musicians, amateur AND pro, have great difficulty playing without a lot of practice. In this case everyone is correct, and whatever Crystal does will be a compromise. But I would suggest that before making enharmonic decisions, the person making them, whether this is Crystal or her client, take into consideration the specific instrument and its fingerings. On a stringed instrument, for example, keys with many flats will be sight-read in a lower position, possibly half position, forcing the hand lower on the fingerboard. Mixing in naturals and/or sharps at random will disturb the visual look of the fingering patterns and make sightreading unnecessarily difficult, since the player will have to translate the accidentals mentally in real time. (Yes, better fingerings can be worked out, but I'm talking about sightreading here.) The same is true for woodwinds (especially if you get into the plethora of notes controlled by the two little fingers on clarinet), and to a lesser extent on brass instruments (which have no difficult individual fingerings, but can get into difficult fingering combinations). Pianists are used to double flats and sharps and they should be left as is. Mallet players are on their own! And nobody should score for harp without serious study of its limitations and requirements. John -- John Susie Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Mac Finale to PC Finale
You should be sure that the file is named properly with an etf extension before it is emailed. Most Mac computers send mail attachments encoded with binhex. The PC cannot decode the attachment without knowing the right file format. You might try to decode the file with the Aladdin Stuffit expander (dropstuff). It should be a free download from Aladdin Systems. Mike Cholewa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Mac Finale to PC Finale Hi Everyone, Recently I received a file sent by someone that was saved using Finale 3.2 for Mac into an .ETF file, which are supposedly useful for just this purpose. I, however, cannot open it on my end using Finale 2002, 2004 or 2005. In each case, I get an invalid file type error message. This confuses me greatly as I have received files in the past with no problem. This time it is very time critical. The person is now sending me a hard copy via snail mail (even a day is slower than computers ;) ) And if I cannot make the file transfer work the music will need to be entered note by note. Is there something we can do to get the files to transfer? Thanks for all your help in advance. I am on the digest version, so if you can email me directly, I will receive the response much quicker. Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pelicanmusicpublishing.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Learning
Sounds interesting, where can I find them? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz Sent: den 24 september 2004 01:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Learning I remember asking about getting these months ago and. Where would one get these? Harold Owen wrote: Hi! Is there more resources around learning Finale like tutorials and videos. Would be interesting if lessons are combined with examples how different arrangements should look like in different situations. Best. Mike. Mike, Do you have my tutorials for Finale 2004? Hal -- ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Bracketed accidentals
The freeware font Fughetta contains accidentals with square brackets. You can find the music fonts Toccata and Fughetta here: http://www.efn.org/~bch/AboutFonts.html TrueType versions of the fonts are available for download. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Walsh Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 8:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Bracketed accidentals In a word, no. You would have to make your own substitute music font characters... RW On Wednesday, September 22, 2004, at 11:25 PM, d. collins wrote: Is there an easy way to get accidentals in square brackets instead of round brackets (parentheses)? Thanks, Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Learning
Hi! Is there more resources around learning Finale like tutorials and videos. Would be interesting if lessons are combined with examples how different arrangements should look like in different situations. Best. Mike. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale and Politics
I don¹t know what most of you do for a living but evidently it¹s closer akin to complaining and moaning than actually using Finale. 2005 must not be that bad after all, since you¹ve decided to devote as much space as you have to your political rantings. I¹m certainly appreciative of our little on-line community, but never ceased to be amazed at all of the hot air expended here on politics and even Finale issues from the same listers over and over. Stop bitching and get to work! Mike Casteel ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] EPS at last: Finale 2004c.r1 Updater pre-re
I have sort of got the eps export to work on WinXp. But it involves modifying of Finale's fonts (postscript T1), and it requires that Adobe Acrobat 6 is installed. Then it will work. I once delivered a job where I exported eps from Finwin03, imported to Word and made pdfs with Acrobat 6 that printed perfectly on Mac. But the eps import in Finwin - forget it. Btw it would be really, really nice to have this feature properly working on the PC platform. Maybe if the Unicode fonts will work on Mac, MakeMusic could make them work on Windows as well? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Beyenhof Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Brad Beyenhof Subject: Re: [Finale] EPS at last: Finale 2004c.r1 Updater pre-re On Friday, June 18, 2004, at 01:36 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Jun 2004 at 12:56, Brad Beyenhof wrote: The problem with EPS creation on the PC side is the fault of Windows XP, not of Finale... You mean the version of WinXP that was released 10 years ago (*ahem*) was the one that broke EPS creation on Windows? OK, fine, I overlooked that bit of his post. In either case, it's The fault of the OS and not the software. Put more plainly, it was broken before WinXP. And even if it *is* the fault of Windows for EPS not working properly, well, why is it there on the menu as a choice if it's never ever going to work on Windows? Well, through a lot of work (mostly trial and error) it is possible to get it to work. They should work around it, however they can, or they should completely remove the feature. If *some* people have gotten it to work (I admit I've never had entirely satisfactory dealings with Windows EPS export, though I have heard reports that it is possible), then I don't think it should be entirely abandoned. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://augmentedfourth.blogspot.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
