Cold vs. warmblood; CA fires
This message is from: Linda Lehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The information on the Haflingers, both what Eike said and the person from the Swiss Pony Association, was interesting. Before I decided I liked Fjords better, I was on the Haflinger Friends List and there was some discussion on breeding in Arab. A Swedish breeder said she would never buy a Haflnger from Germany because some of them have so much Arab blood bred in. When you breed in the Arab, you get the refinement and floaty gaits, but, unfortunately, also the temperament. Those of you with Morgans know that many Morgans with a high percentage of bloodlines registered under Rule 2, which allowed breeding in Saddlebreds that were high percentage Morgan, i.e. Upwey Ben Don whose grandsire, Upwey King Peavine, was double-registered Morgan and Saddlebred, are much hotter than those that do not have those bloodlines. A Ben Don-Nocturne cross is about as hot as you can get in a horse. Lisa, when I see those CA fires on CNNI, I always think of Jeff and hope he is OK. Like Milli Ann, I feel sorry for those poor people who lost their homes. Those with only a few minutes to evacuate were fortunate to have escaped. I hope these fires are put out soon. The devastation is tremendous. Linda in Guben _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: CA fires, saying no to the vet
This message is from: "Chris Darrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RE Vet Care: If you think about it you will see how ever that Vets are recommending the exact same procedures that human doctors would for the same symptoms. The reason is they are required to properly diagnose the TRUE condition. If you then think of the cost of the procedure that the vet performs compared to the cost for a human patient the cost is much much much less. Yet the equipment required to do these tests cost as much or more for the vet to purchase then it does for a human doctor. I know lots of vets my girl friend is also in vet school (wants to work on equines yeah for me lol). Most vets do not recommend these tests just to inflate the bill but because they truly believe they are required to properly diagnose and treat a condition. Then us stewards of our animals health balk at the cost associated with the tests and would never think for a second NOT to do it if it was one of our human family members not a pet. Then the vet has to use only surface symptoms to try to diagnose and treat the condition and that can at times lead to a bad diagnoses and we then blame the poor vet who WE did not allow to perform the required tests to find the true condition when things go bad Just something to think about Chris On 10/28/07, Linda Lehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Linda Lehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Great posting, Lisa! Some people just show a lack of common sense and > selfishness in these situations and never think of what the smoke and > contaminants it contains does to their lungs or the lives of the rescuers who > have to go in to help them when it's almost too late. I admire Jeff and all > of the rescuers who put their lives on the line each and every day for others. > As we now know, two of the fires were arson. I hope they catch the > perpetrators and send them away where they can't do that anymore. I suspect > arsonists are similar to child molesters in that that they are never cured of > the urges and the most that can be done is to catch them and send them away to > protect the public. What do you think, Jean G? > > I thought of some simple, but common sense little things to prepare for an > emergency of any type while I was watching the fire news on CNNI. First, if > you take medication, have all your medication in one place so you can quickly > put it in a ziploc bag and then into a tote bag of some sort. Also do that > with contact lens solution and extra pairs of CL and glasses if you wear them. > These are things that you must take with you if you have to leave quickly. > You can put personal papers like birth certificates and marriage licenses, > Social Security and VA records in a folder to grab quickly and take with you. > This came in handy for me Monday when I had to take my very sick oldest cat to > a large vet clinic 2 hours away and the idiot local vet didn't tell me she was > going to send little Sonja there when I saw her on Sunday, but waited until I > brought her back at 3 PM Monday and we had to stay overnight so she could have > an ultrasound. Please pray for poor Sonja, she's very sick. > > Jerry, the article on saying no to your vet is excellent. I watch a German > program regularly, "Menschen, Tieren and Doktoren," (People, Animals and > Doctors) and always amazed at how many ultrasounds and CAT scans they do on > small animals of all types here. And I once saw a vet admit a horse to the > hospital and put him under general anesthesia just to geld him. Maybe it's > different now but I never saw that in the US. The doctor at this clinic where > I had Sonja recommended an endoscopy, but I had to decline because it is just > too expensive and I know the excellent vet I had in Mexico wouldn't want to do > that. We have to remember that we are the clients, the ones who pay the bill, > and the animals are the patients and we have to put limits on the vets > sometimes. > > I hope you are all safe and that Jeff will be able to come home soon. > > Linda in Guben > > > > _ > Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wl > mailtagline > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > > -- Chris Darrow Mobile: (303) 990-1140 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: CA fires, saying no to the vet
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linda, I hesitate to say anything about why people set fires, with out knowledge of who set, who looked and who told. As to cure, certainly does not always work as anything else but I do not hear of repeaters but I do not see such problems. Maybe some of the other therapists can give you an answer. It is dreadful. What has amazed me recently, is going out in Gunnar's field, (the remote Gunnar) and being nibbled, urged to pet and followed about everything I did. Rewiring electric fence. So I decided I was not paying enough attention and that he might be jealous of the three minis in the big field. They are super friendly!! So, now I go in with Gunnar as often as possible and enjoy the relationship I have waited for for seven years! Best wishes for your Kitty, they mean so much. Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
CA fires, saying no to the vet
This message is from: Linda Lehnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Great posting, Lisa! Some people just show a lack of common sense and selfishness in these situations and never think of what the smoke and contaminants it contains does to their lungs or the lives of the rescuers who have to go in to help them when it's almost too late. I admire Jeff and all of the rescuers who put their lives on the line each and every day for others. As we now know, two of the fires were arson. I hope they catch the perpetrators and send them away where they can't do that anymore. I suspect arsonists are similar to child molesters in that that they are never cured of the urges and the most that can be done is to catch them and send them away to protect the public. What do you think, Jean G? I thought of some simple, but common sense little things to prepare for an emergency of any type while I was watching the fire news on CNNI. First, if you take medication, have all your medication in one place so you can quickly put it in a ziploc bag and then into a tote bag of some sort. Also do that with contact lens solution and extra pairs of CL and glasses if you wear them. These are things that you must take with you if you have to leave quickly. You can put personal papers like birth certificates and marriage licenses, Social Security and VA records in a folder to grab quickly and take with you. This came in handy for me Monday when I had to take my very sick oldest cat to a large vet clinic 2 hours away and the idiot local vet didn't tell me she was going to send little Sonja there when I saw her on Sunday, but waited until I brought her back at 3 PM Monday and we had to stay overnight so she could have an ultrasound. Please pray for poor Sonja, she's very sick. Jerry, the article on saying no to your vet is excellent. I watch a German program regularly, "Menschen, Tieren and Doktoren," (People, Animals and Doctors) and always amazed at how many ultrasounds and CAT scans they do on small animals of all types here. And I once saw a vet admit a horse to the hospital and put him under general anesthesia just to geld him. Maybe it's different now but I never saw that in the US. The doctor at this clinic where I had Sonja recommended an endoscopy, but I had to decline because it is just too expensive and I know the excellent vet I had in Mexico wouldn't want to do that. We have to remember that we are the clients, the ones who pay the bill, and the animals are the patients and we have to put limits on the vets sometimes. I hope you are all safe and that Jeff will be able to come home soon. Linda in Guben _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wl mailtagline The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fires
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I, too, am praying for the safety of all those involved in the SoCal fires. This terrible disaster has really made me think about fire safety. My new home in South San Jose, CA, is heavenly, but it's also a huge fire danger area. This summer there were not less than three fires very close to home, one which actually started to come up our driveway before being put out! This precipitated a conversation between myself and my landlords about fire safety and evacuation plans. I was surprised to hear that they don't really know any of the neighbors. Now, I'm not very social and I like my privacy, but if I owned this property I would go around and introduce myself and offer an exchange of?housing for horses and pets in case of fire. Another concern is that their trailer, a 3-horse slant, has been sitting in the front yard since 2001 and is not in working condition. We talked about that, and I have asked around for recommendations for a trailer sales or repair shop. We have a total of seven horses here, three of whom are quite old and lame. Hopefully they can get a stock trailer and I can get at least a two-horse, maybe a! three, so we can quickly evacuate if needed. We also talked about our pets. I have a carrier for each cat, and they are kept assembled and within easy reach. Dogs can go in the back of my truck. Seems like a lot of work and expense, but the day may come when we need it, and we'll be glad we prepared! Brigid Wasson www.eponahorsemanship.com Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
fires
This message is from: "Beth Pulsifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thoughts and prayers going out to all having to deal with the awful fires... So happy to hear some good news today, from some on the list who have their homes still standing and also their horses and other pets safe. Good luck to everyone. Beth in Maine and very happy and thankful to be here!! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: fires
This message is from: "jerrell friz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you Jeff for all your hard work. I completely understand your line of work, and to do want you love to do. We are all praying for you. BE CAREFUL Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:30 AM Subject: fires This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list I do not normally post(Lisa is much better at it) I would like to thank every one who has posted and sent emails.the support from the fjord world has been great.?The last week has been hard to be away from home. I know that Lisa has been worried about me and wishes I was sitting in a safe fire station some where. But this is what I do and have never thought of doing any thing else. Thanks for the support.?I am off to the fire again? jeff pedersen For your security this Message has been checked for Viruses as a courtesy of Com-Pair Services! The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
fires
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list I do not normally post(Lisa is much better at it) I would like to thank every one who has posted and sent emails.the support from the fjord world has been great.?The last week has been hard to be away from home. I know that Lisa has been worried about me and wishes I was sitting in a safe fire station some where. But this is what I do and have never thought of doing any thing else. Thanks for the support.?I am off to the fire again? jeff pedersen Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re fires
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you Kate for the info from Australia. Very good, esp. re the halters. How many of us have leather halters anymore? It, the fire, is certainly a holocaust and one can just pray and send money. The world she is a changing! Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: San diego Fires
This message is from: Vic Faeo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sarah, I'm really hoping your horses will be okay. Are Maclom, Chili, and Nika the horses' names? Prayers, Vic - Original Message This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ,,, Maybe Malcom, Nika and chili are OK . It may be a day or so before I know for sure. For about 3 hours we thought we might need to evacuate the house in Bonita where we are staying (with our 2 dogs and 2 cats and 3 kids) but that bracnh of the fire has been put out. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fires
This message is from: "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My thoughts and prayers are with all of you, your friends and family that are in the path of these horrible fires. I can't imagine what you are going through, not knowing if someone is safe (human or pet, horse, etc.) and whether your house is still standing. Reena The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Fires in Calif.
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This fire and the comments make it sound worse than some of our wars!!! Terrifying. Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fires in Calif.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jeff is fine. All Fjord folks and friends are also good. Fire in Orange Co. has flared up again and a big header is now comming from Mojeska Canyon area.right up the hill from Jeffs Fire Station in Tustin. Homes going up as I write this. This is very bad as this canyon is right next to Silverado, never burned in recorded history. Temps are supposed to be 100 * today, not counting where the fire is. Horses in large stable right on Santiago Canyon Road evacuated of course..all of them are now at Orange Co. Fair grounds. They wont let people with animals into any evacuation center, so everyone with pets along, are living in their cars with family and animals. This includes all CA. evacuations, now totaling 300,000. Makes you think about what you carry in your vehicles. Many with 10 min. or less to get out.finding pet carriers, food, water for animals, let alone PEOPLE is impossible. After a good nights sleep, he is itching to get back out there. This time with his regular crew he hopes. Says he needs to keep an eye on his Captian, but I think its more about his new Fire Truck ! Waiting for a release from the Dr. to return to duty. No fast relief in sight for temps or winds today. Everyone today with horses that do not load in trailers quickly, go practice. Everyone who drives around ( or your teenagers ) with cars under a quarter tank of gas, go fill up. Sounds stupidbut people are running out of gas and running for their lives. Many " local " gas stations closed in CA. so people stuck with no wheels. Evacuation centers being evacuated again because fires burning into areas not thought threatened yesterday. Thanks for continued e-mails of support. I told Jeff about all of the Fjord folks checking in and he was amazed. I am not overly worried about himhes been doing this a long time and he is no risk taker like some of the rookies. I just feel terrible about those losing homes right now, pets, separated from family. Go hug yours. Lisa ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
San diego Fires
This message is from: Sarah Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I do not think there is a 100% safe place in San Diego at the moment! The good news is that the wind has died down and air support should be forthcoming. The number of horses that have been evacuated in astounding. Many more were unable to leave. My friend in dulzura brought her first 2 horses to my house and went back for her third. She was unable to get past the roadblock. Her husband had stayed with the horse, but his cell phone stopped working. It was a tense couple of hours until he showed up at our house. She still does not know the fate of her horse. It looked at if the fire would go around our house, but then it turned. We were packed, and took 2 horses with us. My student Monica took her horse and one of mine to her house several miles away - we thought it would be safer. I headed to the Lakeside rodeo grounds (Del Mar had announced they were at capacity.) only to hear that they were full. somebody told me they were taking livestock at Santana High - which proved to be false. I just got out my address book and started calling. Roberta Jackson of sweetwater farm said she'd take mine in. Dropped off 2 and went back to get another. Then Monica called and said she'd also had to evacuate and took her two down to spring valley, then they wouldn't let us back in. So 2 of my ponies are at Monica's house and Malcom is at my house and we can't get back in. This morning the fire came over the top of Mt. San Miguel. I could see it from the house I am staying in. this is not good news because our house is between the last place I saw the flame front and mt. San Miguel. Probably I do not have a house. Maybe all the brush abatement we have done will work. Maybe Malcom, Nika and chili are OK . It may be a day or so before I know for sure. For about 3 hours we thought we might need to evacuate the house in Bonita where we are staying (with our 2 dogs and 2 cats and 3 kids) but that bracnh of the fire has been put out. We had a fire plan, but this fire complelety was beyond what we could plan for! Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
So. CA fires - need a place to evacuate horses?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Having been through fire evacuations the last two years at our place, I know how nerve-wracking and exhausting it can be. Last year the Sawtooth fire came to within a few feet of our house. Thanks to about 200 firefighters who used our place as a base no buildings were lost. Yeah, those firefighters are amazing! All that to say, if anybody needs a place to bring horses (or yourselves) our place is available. We are about 45 minutes north of Palm Springs. So far no fires are close by us (there's hardly anything left to burn actually!) Give us a call at 760 363-6903 if we can help out. Hope those darn winds die down. Karen and Dudley Haines The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Forest Fires
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/12/2007 9:05:44 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Kit Davis has offered to put up > Mary and Jon Ofjord's and our horses if the fire comes to Grand Marais. > > My husband and I went to our log cabin on West Bearskin Lake this evening to > > try to "save" the structure from the fire if it comes to the cabin. It > seems so hopeless! My youngest son has been fighting the fires since last > Sunday and he told me tonight that the winds are supposed to change > tomorrow, so hopefully our cabin, and many others, will be spared. > Oh Philis, I will light another candle for your cabin ! Im glad that yours and Mary and Jons horses have a plan if they need to be moved. Dont wait too long moving them if it looks like you will need to. Cant tell you how many horror stories of horses set loose to fend for themselves, running panicked down highways with the EMS vehicles heading towards the fires Ive heard about. Pretty homes in the woods are so fragile, with the beauty of living with wooded lots and the danger of those same woods so close to structures.thinking about your guys today now, good-luck ! Lisa ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: forest fires
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Philis, I can certainly understand your anxiety! We had a summer like that in 2004, where fire was only 8 miles away from my home. funny, how the national news doesn't even mention Minnesota and Alaska, with our fires, even though Acreage is so much more. l guess only California and Florida count! We are holding are breath here, after a mild winker with very little snow and then an early breakup. Thank goodness we finally did get a little rain, but not enough. Hopefully there won't be some fool throwing a cigarette out his car window, or burning trash. Best of luck, hope you get through this unscathed! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, with big mosquitos and scattered showers today. Over 19 hours daylight This message is from: "Philis B. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We are experiencing some very devastating forest fires here in northeastern Minnesota in the "Arrowhead, Gunflint Trail" region. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: forest fires
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Almost sounds like you are living in California. I feel and can certainly understand your concerns. Our CA firefighters have saved our home once and saved many others in our general area. Jo Wilgus Gavilan Hills, CA ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
forest fires
This message is from: "Philis B. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We are experiencing some very devastating forest fires here in northeastern Minnesota in the "Arrowhead, Gunflint Trail" region. Many folks have lost their homes and Wilderness Canoe Base, a Christian camp for young people, lost around 50 buildings. Now only about five are standing and they are facing a summer season without a camp. About 18 horses have been evacuated from Gunflint Lodge, a big resort. They are corralled in our town hockey arena. We are seriously contemplating what to do with our six horses,(including a mare soon to foal). Kit Davis has offered to put up Mary and Jon Ofjord's and our horses if the fire comes to Grand Marais. My husband and I went to our log cabin on West Bearskin Lake this evening to try to "save" the structure from the fire if it comes to the cabin. It seems so hopeless! My youngest son has been fighting the fires since last Sunday and he told me tonight that the winds are supposed to change tomorrow, so hopefully our cabin, and many others, will be spared. So that you can understand the magnitude of this fire, it has burned well over 20,000 acres of forest and over 45 homes besides Wilderness Canoe Base and it's still going strong. Many people are displaced and some have no home to go back to. The fire is only 5% contained and because we have been in a two year drought, the fire could burn for along time to come. Back in 1999 our area experienced a big blowdown with 100 mile an hour winds. This fire is in part, a result of the blowdown that was not properly cleaned up. We all knew it was coming and now, here it is. Very sad. Philis Anderson Sawtooth Mountain Fjords Grand Marais, MN The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: only you can prevent hay fires
This message is from: "Brenda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Could you please tell me what site this chat is at. I am obviously on the list but don't know the website for it. Thanks ---Original Message--- From: Mike May Date: 8/15/2006 12:43:04 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: only you can prevent hay fires This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: only you can prevent hay fires Hay fires are a danger anytime small bales are stacked at 20% moisture or higher, or big bales at more than 16% moisture, warn Cornell University safety experts. They say the quickest way to detect hot hay is to drive a long pipe or rod into the center of the stack. Leave it in for 20 minutes and pull it out. If it's too hot to hold in your hand, the hot hay should be removed immediately. If you think you have a problem, monitor the stack temperature with a homemade probe. Take a 10' piece of ¾"-diameter steel pipe and drill eight holes about 3" from one end. Hammer that end together to form a sharp edge, drive the pipe into the stack and lower a thermometer to the end. Retrieve it after 10-15 minutes. Check the temperature daily if it's above 120 degrees; twice a day if it's 140-150 degrees, say the experts. At 150 degrees, the hay is entering the danger zone; check the temperature every two hours. If its between 150 and 160 degrees, start moving hay out of the stack. At 160 degrees or higher, call the fire department. Have firemen on site before moving any hay. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of imstp_chubbi_en.gif]
only you can prevent hay fires
This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: only you can prevent hay fires Hay fires are a danger anytime small bales are stacked at 20% moisture or higher, or big bales at more than 16% moisture, warn Cornell University safety experts. They say the quickest way to detect hot hay is to drive a long pipe or rod into the center of the stack. Leave it in for 20 minutes and pull it out. If it's too hot to hold in your hand, the hot hay should be removed immediately. If you think you have a problem, monitor the stack temperature with a homemade probe. Take a 10' piece of ¾"-diameter steel pipe and drill eight holes about 3" from one end. Hammer that end together to form a sharp edge, drive the pipe into the stack and lower a thermometer to the end. Retrieve it after 10-15 minutes. Check the temperature daily if it's above 120 degrees; twice a day if it's 140-150 degrees, say the experts. At 150 degrees, the hay is entering the danger zone; check the temperature every two hours. If its between 150 and 160 degrees, start moving hay out of the stack. At 160 degrees or higher, call the fire department. Have firemen on site before moving any hay.
Re: fires
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean we have finally had some "real" rain here and Gunnar is a mud ball. Still not enough yet to wet under the forest trees but supposed to be more. Hopefully it will drift North and South. Jean Gayle Author "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
fires
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Catherine, I can sure sympathize with your fire problem..and am praying that your place is safe. While we in Fairbanks, Alaska are no longer in danger from the big fire just north of us, we have been under a layer of dense smoke for more than a week here, from the big wildfires all around us. Thank goodness I don't have to worry about evacuation THIS time, as we did last month. But the smoke is limiting ALL outdoor activity. I sure hope YOUR fires get under control soon. We also have some of the #1 fire management teams up here from the Northwest, so I hope you folks have plenty of help. Usually by this time late in the summer, our fire season is over and most of our crews go south to help out in your areas. Here's praying for you and your animals! Jean in smoky Fairbanks, Alaska Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Charle's and the fires!!!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sure hope no news is good news. Where is KMac? Haven't heard from her sense the Carson City fires. Hope all in the path of Charles are OK. and the fire in Washington if nothing else are our friends away from all the smoke. Just want to hear all is well with everyone's pets. Farms and homes included.Hope someone will enlighten us as to what is going on in their area. Tillie Dun Lookin' Fjords Bud,Tillie & Amy Evers Redmond OR (541) 548-6018 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ridge/8589
Re: KMac and Fires in Carson City
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/16/2004 8:16:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karen McCarthy! Are you OK with those fires in Carson City? I was just thinking the same thing... Let us know Karen! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KMac and Fires in Carson City
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karen McCarthy! Are you OK with those fires in Carson City? Please let us all know how you are doing! Hopefully you are not in the fire area, or if you are I hope and pray you and your animlas and home are OK. Jean in smoky Fairbanks, Alaska, praying for rain here. will be 85 degrees today! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Libby Fires
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On today's Forest Service fire map http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/kootenai/fire/ it appears that there are quite a few fires north and west of Libby. Further, it appears that most of these fires have no personnel committed as yet. Could some of the local folks let us know if the fires are going to have any detrimental effect on the show. Cynthia and I have been planning on coming up there for the show, so I've been keeping pretty close tabs on the USFS fire reports, but I know sometimes things can look worse on a map than they truly are. Patty here in Libby, Will try and get you up to speed on our fire situation. Most of the fires are to the North and West of us, closer to Troy which is 18 miles west and up in the Yaak. At this time there are 167 fires burning. They only show the largest 90 on the map, of the 90, 33 of them have crews on them. They go after the ones that are a threat to lives and personal property first, but firefighters are really streached thin. None of the fires are in the Libby area, yet, more storms are expected by the weekend, dry lightening. It was really smokey in town yesterday until the afternoon winds picked up and cleared out the valley, good for us, bad for the fires. So far everything is on schedule for the show, Still working on arena after a redeo we had here, but nothing major. There are a few changes that alot of you will appreciate, some you may not, but the County had been really busy. Hope to see you in September. Patty
Re: Fires around Libby
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:53 PM 08/15/2000 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On today's Forest Service fire map http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/kootenai/fire/ > it appears that there are quite a few fires north and west of Libby. > Further, it appears that most of these fires have no personnel > committed as yet. Could some of the local folks let us know if the > fires are going to have any detrimental effect on the show. . Steve, In my personal unprofessional opinion, (not worth much) I think it's probably too soon to tell.. it's just not a predictable scenario. Much will depend on what happens with the weather. We are having increasingly cooler nights, 37* right now, and that's helping.. few clouds and heavier atmosphere yesterday. We were in Libby last evening and it looked fine. Many of those fires (map marks) are spot fires on the tops of high mountains (from dry lightening last week) and present no immediate problem. Many of these may be "unmanned" because they handle them by choppers packing big water buckets to and fro. I'm sure Sherry and Ron Dayton are keeping an eye on the situation, then there's Patty Peterson right outside of Libby to keep them posted. Maybe we'll hear from her later today, I'll see if I can locate her. Let's all hope and pray the Libby show is on, I can confidently say it looks like there's no problem at all at this time. Ruthie, nw mt
Fires around Libby
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On today's Forest Service fire map http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/kootenai/fire/ it appears that there are quite a few fires north and west of Libby. Further, it appears that most of these fires have no personnel committed as yet. Could some of the local folks let us know if the fires are going to have any detrimental effect on the show. Cynthia and I have been planning on coming up there for the show, so I've been keeping pretty close tabs on the USFS fire reports, but I know sometimes things can look worse on a map than they truly are. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Men are better when riding, more just and more understanding, and more alert and more at ease... --Edward Plantagenet(1373-1413)
Fires
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all - This fire scene in the West is really scarey! Our thoughts are with you, Noonans, Tripps, and any others who might be threatened. I spoke yesterday with Carol Ann Peltier in Libby, and they are still OK, though watchful. Ruthie, somehow I spaced your new web site URL, and would love to see it. Would you please re-send it on the Digest of privately? Thanks. Those Vallhunds are sure cute, but you know that song, "I was country when country wasn't cool"? I've had Goldens since before they were "In" [early 60's], so I'll probably never have a different breed, even tho I love most of them. Besides, what would I fill my vacum cleaner bags with if I didn't have all that nice, long blonde hair on the rug, couch, etc? Thanks for the wheelbarrow suggestion for flying hay. At least I wouldn't look like a confused Santa. Bye, Peg Knutsen http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Re: fungus, fires, dogs and chickens
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Bushnell's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Bushnell's" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Ruthie, how are you and others from out west doing > with the horrendous > >fires? I hope all are OK and people and animals > safe. > Michelle Noonan, her family and her Fjords, in the > Bitterroot Valley are of > concern. She wrote yesterday and spoke of the heavy > smoke atmosphere. > Pray for rain. Ruthie, We'll do just that! Seems even Gov. Mark is 'putting out the call' for prayer, according to our local paper. Keep safe. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/
Re: Update on Montana Fires
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fire is my worst, most feared enemy. I'll be saying some prayers for all of you close to the fire zone, and hoping that all humans and animals get through this. Fire season will be over soon, but not soon enough. Take good care of yourself. Pamela
Update on Montana Fires
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, we are all still fine, (cough cough) here in the Bitterroot Valley, the fire is about 20 miles from us, on the opposite side of the valley. The smoke is down right awful, the visibility at times is less than a 1/4 mile, Cant even see the barn and the pastures I'm gonna call some fellow Fjord owners in Victor tomorrow (Carol and Dan Tripp) the fire is closing in on that area, I think they are low enough in the valley, but I imagine the embers could be a potential threat I'm just not sure at what point the smoke is dangerous to my 4 bred mares? I'm gonna head out for a week or so and go visit friends in Western Washington, my old home town area. but will keep hubby here to help hold the fort down Our daughter Mandy is quite disappointed, they canceled 4H horse camp for next week and we got word today that the Ravalli County Fair that was due to start in about two weeks, Is officially canceled for now They are using the fair grounds to house evacuated animals Mandy's 4H group is seeking hay and monetary donations to help the animals, as all the owners lost their barns and hay piles due to fire. Thank God most of the homes, although not all, have not burned No fear though, I'm sure Libby will still be here in September, and the smoke isn't even bad up that way, we are about 4 1/2 hours from there Take care, II'll keep up on the post from my sisters computer, we are heading out of town Sunday The Noonan Family Stevensville, Montana
Re: fungus, fires, dogs and chickens
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have friends in Hamilton and Victor, Montana with horses (Arabs, not Fjords) and I have been tracking the Blodgett fire on the Web as it is right in their back yard. I don't think they will get burnt out as both of their homes are in open areas but I am sure the smoke is affecting them I visited them last year after the Libby Show so have a vivid image of the area. I have been looking at the pictures and info on the US FS website. Jean in rainy Fairbanks, Alaska where our fire season ended several weeks ago and we sent our fire crews to Montana >Michelle Noonan, her family and her Fjords, in the Bitterroot Valley are of >concern. She wrote yesterday and spoke of the heavy smoke atmosphere. These >ongoing temperatures in the 90's are most unusual, record breaking I >believe, and it is one scary scenario! They're predicting DRY thunder >storms tonight and everyone is getting skittish. > > Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fungus, fires, dogs and chickens
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Ruthie, how are you and others from out west doing with the horrendous >fires? I hope all are OK and people and animals safe. There's no problem up here in the extreme northwestern corner of Montana to date, keeping our fingers crossed, but the conditions are prime and extreme caution is mandated. Michelle Noonan, her family and her Fjords, in the Bitterroot Valley are of concern. She wrote yesterday and spoke of the heavy smoke atmosphere. These ongoing temperatures in the 90's are most unusual, record breaking I believe, and it is one scary scenario! They're predicting DRY thunder storms tonight and everyone is getting skittish. I don't handle heat well, that's why I'm lurking in the house talking too much =). Thanks for asking. However, the Fjordies don't seem to mind, meander up and down the creek bank looking for moist green munchies seemingly oblivious. Pray for rain. Ruthie
Re: fungus, fires, dogs and chickens
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I just had a call from the rescue people and Bertie has a home with three children which should >keep him busy and happy. That's good news Jean! T H R E E children!! The son of a gun deserved that, didn't he = Ruthie
Re: fungus, fires, dogs and chickens
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jane, I do have a fenced pen for the chickens but right now the "killer" drake is in it. My two ducks have ducklings so they have the freedom and the drake is banished for awhile. He will kill any babies and they are all his!! At least your Lab has an excuse, he is a bird dog. I just had a call from the rescue people and Bertie has a home with three children which should keep him busy and happy. My Fjord Gunnar did not care for Bertie and put on some wild displays of bucking and striking and kicking all at one time. Never hit him though. Gunnar has been full of old nick recently in our cooler weather. by the way he has started putting on his winter coat. Darn Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
fungus, fires, dogs and chickens
This message is from: Don & Jane Brackett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you all for all the "treatment recipes". A wealth of knowledge here. I keep printing info like this off for future reference. Ruthie, how are you and others from out west doing with the horrendous fires? I hope all are OK and people and animals safe. Jean, we have a chicken killer! :( We have had wonderful labs in the past and Hero is wonderful too except she wants to kill birds. After shredding a chicken when she was just 6 months old, we fenced the chickens in a large yard. We got her as a puppy too, so I think that if the urge to kill is there, there is not much you can do about it except to insure that they can't follow through. She's great with the kids and horses it just seems to be birds, though I don't trust her with the sheep. Jane, in humid and warm Maine
