RE: Grabbson
This message is from: "Cheryl Gioia" Hi Valerie, Yes I did get Grabbson. He is having a blast here.or I hope so anyway. He is babysitting our youngsters and out in the pasture with the geldings. I didn't breed him when I got him. I just wanted to get to know him. He is such a gentle boy. I will be breeding him this year and I'd like to get him driving. I'd like to take him to Blue Earth NEXT year. Cheryl "The ride is the objective, the destination is the excuse!" Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Grabbson
This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com Oh I am glad you got Grabbson, I always wondered how that went. Are you enjoying him? He is a relative of my mare. Valerie Columbia, CT Get your fix. Click here for reliable handyman services! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw35FcfbLWszTFXzZATnhPAFjo6WViZiL81Ek07Xs9eh3ToWK/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Grabbson
This message is from: "Michele Noonan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congrats Cheryl.. Your husband will soon be like mine and when Lisa calls he HIDES the Checkbook. Lisa has been wonderful about finding fjords for us. She found us our first stallion old Eric. Then she found us a couple of really nice older fjord mares.So When Lisa Calls, Mike Hides (or tries, but it never works) Good Job Lisa! Congrats Cheryl and Yeah! to the fjordlist for putting the info out there too! PS. Corinne, you can keep your snow, you don't need to send it over to Montana, really you don't! Michele Noonan Stevensville, MT This message is from: "Cheryl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Hello all , I just wanted to announce that I am the proud new owner of Grabbson. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Grabbson
This message is from: Linda Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cheryl, I'm SO happy that you are giving Grabbson a home. He deserves to retire in wonderful home. If I had a ranch, I would have taken him but I don't so couldn't. You are a jewel. Lisa tried to save Nils, my Sigrid's (Boomah's) sire but was too late. I'm so glad you were in time. Linda T The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yea! CherylLinda Jo Baker Lottie"Oh what a tangled web we weave,when first we practise to deceive"Sir Walter Scott> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com> Subject: Grabbson> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:13:29 -0600> > This message is from: "Cheryl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > Hello all ,> > I just wanted to announce that I am the proud new owner of Grabbson.> > I am so looking forward to his arrival here in Colorado. He is looking> forward to moving here also.he just doesn't know it yet.> > I have been reading with great interest everything that has been written> about him lately.> > Thanks to Lisa P for the kind words and the late night phone call. I'm glad> you posted the info from Les. Otherwise I wouldn't have ,yet,"another"> fine horse!> > Cheryl> > > > > > Cheryl Gioia, Owner> > 1843 CR 132> > Elizabeth CO 80107> > www.finefjords.com> > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at:> http://tinyurl.com/rcepw> > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Grabbson
This message is from: "Terry Hale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cheryl, I know lots of us have been following Grabbson. Whew! Congratulations and thanks for stepping up. He sounds like an awesome horse! Roni Graham, WA - Original Message - From: "Cheryl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mystery. Com" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:13 PM Subject: Grabbson This message is from: "Cheryl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all , I just wanted to announce that I am the proud new owner of Grabbson. I am so looking forward to his arrival here in Colorado. He is looking forward to moving here also.he just doesn't know it yet. I have been reading with great interest everything that has been written about him lately. Thanks to Lisa P for the kind words and the late night phone call. I'm glad you posted the info from Les. Otherwise I wouldn't have ,yet,"another" fine horse! Cheryl Cheryl Gioia, Owner 1843 CR 132 Elizabeth CO 80107 www.finefjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Congratulations Cheryl!!! We all REALLY appreciate your efforts. Gail -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cheryl Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mystery. Com Subject: Grabbson This message is from: "Cheryl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all , I just wanted to announce that I am the proud new owner of Grabbson. I am so looking forward to his arrival here in Colorado. He is looking forward to moving here also.he just doesn't know it yet. I have been reading with great interest everything that has been written about him lately. Thanks to Lisa P for the kind words and the late night phone call. I'm glad you posted the info from Les. Otherwise I wouldn't have ,yet,"another" fine horse! Cheryl Cheryl Gioia, Owner 1843 CR 132 Elizabeth CO 80107 www.finefjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Grabbson
This message is from: "Cheryl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all , I just wanted to announce that I am the proud new owner of Grabbson. I am so looking forward to his arrival here in Colorado. He is looking forward to moving here also.he just doesn't know it yet. I have been reading with great interest everything that has been written about him lately. Thanks to Lisa P for the kind words and the late night phone call. I'm glad you posted the info from Les. Otherwise I wouldn't have ,yet,"another" fine horse! Cheryl Cheryl Gioia, Owner 1843 CR 132 Elizabeth CO 80107 www.finefjords.com The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I knew someone would step up..the fjord world is great!! LindaLinda Jo Baker Lottie"Oh what a tangled web we weave,when first we practise to deceive"Sir Walter Scott> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:35:31 -0400> Subject: Re: Grabbson> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com> > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Linda - thank you for posting this!! I cannot quite explain why I am so > involved with this guy and worried about him. But this morning I was > thinking about sitting down and emailing every breeder I could find to talk about > him. On behalf of all the breeders in the US who will NOT have to hear from > me on a topic I know nothing about, thank you!!> > Kate> with Joe (who I guess is Grabbson's nephew)> and Della (who does like to keep track of the studs)> > **> > In a message dated 4/18/2008 6:32:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:> > This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> Les emailed me this morning...Grabbson has a new home and will not be > going to auction. > > Linda> > > > > > > > > **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car > listings at AOL Autos. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)> > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at:> http://tinyurl.com/rcepw> > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Grabbson
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda - thank you for posting this!! I cannot quite explain why I am so involved with this guy and worried about him. But this morning I was thinking about sitting down and emailing every breeder I could find to talk about him. On behalf of all the breeders in the US who will NOT have to hear from me on a topic I know nothing about, thank you!! Kate with Joe (who I guess is Grabbson's nephew) and Della (who does like to keep track of the studs) ** In a message dated 4/18/2008 6:32:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Les emailed me this morning...Grabbson has a new home and will not be going to auction. Linda **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
good news/Grabbson
This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Les emailed me this morning...Grabbson has a new home and will not be going to auction. Linda Linda Jo Baker Lottie "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive" Sir Walter Scott The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Grabbson
This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Actually, Grabbson ... looked pretty nice though the driver/trainer left a lot to be desired Grabbson may have been hitched and driven ... but as far as really understanding or enjoying his job ... well ... I have my doubts, given what I know about the person who "trained" him. DeeAnna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Actually, Grabbson was trained to drive by someone Tim Hamlett hired. I don't think he was driven extensively, but he did show at Blue Earth at least one year. He looked pretty nice though the driver/trainer left a lot to be desired. -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NFHR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 Dogs (and horses, cm) are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. -Roger Caras Sarchasm (n) The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone interested in this stallion.talk to Les. He is asking VERY little for him.. Yes, I thought, too, of Grabbson being gelded... Just so little time. LJBL Linda Jo Baker Lottie"Oh what a tangled web we weave,when first we practise to deceive"Sir Walter Scott > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Subject: RE: Grabbson > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:08:36 -0700 > > This message is from: > > Jean, > Unfortunately the stallion was not trained for anything but breeding. :-(. > This is why he has not sold as of yet. He is related to our mares, so we > have not been interested in him... or we would have worked a deal with Les > or actually even his prior owner. > He is gentle and if anyone wants a good horse... he would be it... even > gelded, I am sure he could have a handicap rider... since they have a leader > and two side walkers... What I have seen of him... He would tolerate this > very much... matter of fact he would enjoy it. Fjords LOVE a job to do... > this stallion needs a job... > > Rune will be at Sisters only Thursday evening and Friday during the day... > He is delivering two other horses (non Fjords) for a lady that is selling > them... He could meet Les there or... Les does not have to go to Sisters... > if someone steps up to the plate... however... with the economics as it > is... Only the people in EUROPE and afford him... :-) (Humor (pause) you > all...) I rather prefer the NOK 7 to 10 to a dollar than 4 to 5 to a > dollar... No offence to the Norwegians... it is just a reflection of our > economy... > > Catherine Lassesen > Hestehaven - "The Horse Garden" > & Hundehaven - "The Dog Heaven" > www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1-541-825-3027 > Southern Oregon > > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, Unfortunately the stallion was not trained for anything but breeding. :-(. This is why he has not sold as of yet. He is related to our mares, so we have not been interested in him... or we would have worked a deal with Les or actually even his prior owner. He is gentle and if anyone wants a good horse... he would be it... even gelded, I am sure he could have a handicap rider... since they have a leader and two side walkers... What I have seen of him... He would tolerate this very much... matter of fact he would enjoy it. Fjords LOVE a job to do... this stallion needs a job... Rune will be at Sisters only Thursday evening and Friday during the day... He is delivering two other horses (non Fjords) for a lady that is selling them... He could meet Les there or... Les does not have to go to Sisters... if someone steps up to the plate... however... with the economics as it is... Only the people in EUROPE and afford him... :-) (Humor (pause) you all...) I rather prefer the NOK 7 to 10 to a dollar than 4 to 5 to a dollar... No offence to the Norwegians... it is just a reflection of our economy... Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - "The Horse Garden" & Hundehaven - "The Dog Heaven" www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-541-825-3027 Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Grabbson
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wouldn't Grabbson find a home faster if he was a gelding? He is still young and a fine horse. Most do not want a stallion. Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Grabbson
This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fjord Lovers...I hope if any of you are even miminally considering bring Grabbson to your farm you will contact Les and talk to him. He so wants a good home for him. I simply have NO experience with a stallion, nor do I want to breed outside mares (he is my mare's sire) so my farm is not where he belongs. However, I so hope someone will work with Les . he is very willing to work with anyone regarding pricing to find a good home. He is practically giving this stallion away...please, think about it. LJBL Linda Jo Baker Lottie "Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practise to deceive" Sir Walter Scott The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know what a wonderful horse Tank has been and many other of his sons and daughters have been wonderful family horses, etc. And...I am concerned about the loss of "family horses" as the breed goes more and more toward highly athletic, long legged, lighter built Fjords. Gail The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Grabbson
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gunnar is also a son of Grabb/Guldua. Does not sound like my boy inherited the personalities of Grabb Jean Gayle PS I do not know when Gunnar was neutered. Have lost my horse language Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Grabbson / age
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/14/2008 3:29:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thank you, Lisa, for sharing this news. > > My heart is so sad to hear that this stallion is, once again, needing a new > home. If I recall, he is quite old? > > I have no money to purchase him, nor do I have the experience to handle a > stallion, but, I sure hope someone in the fjord world will provide Grabbson > with a place to live out his years. > Thanks Linda. Grabbson is 23 years young. He is far from old IMHO. We have the honor of standing another aged stallion here, Leidjo, from Anvil's Acres, age 25. I have not ever seen a healthier, more beautiful example of aged studs, and he is still producing wonderful foals for us and enjoying his harum here. Last year, Leidjo gave us 2 beautiful fillys, one grey. I expect another Leidjo foal around June 1, and this year I will be breeding him to several other nice mares. These aged stallions just keep on truckin I wouldnt worry much about his age, more about preserving these nice old bloodlines. Lisa ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Grabbson
This message is from: "Cynthia Madden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know Grabbson. I met him years ago when his first owner, Bill Stephenson, in Nebraska owned him and he is Tank's father. I saw him go to Tim and then to Les. I know all these people and they have loved this horse. Les has written me about his need to sell Grabbson and he only has the horse's best interest at heart. I can't take him or I would. He is a grand old man and represents valuable bloodlines to the breed. I hope someone will take him and give him a good and final home. He deserves it. I have a great picture of Bill and Grabbson. It is obvious they had a lot of affection for each other. Bill had a lot of love of this horse and sold him shortly before he died. I know what a wonderful horse Tank has been and many other of his sons and daughters have been wonderful family horses, etc. -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NFHR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 Dogs (and horses, cm) are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. -Roger Caras Sarchasm (n) The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: Linda Lottie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you, Lisa, for sharing this news. My heart is so sad to hear that this stallion is, once again, needing a new home. If I recall, he is quite old? I have no money to purchase him, nor do I have the experience to handle a stallion, but, I sure hope someone in the fjord world will provide Grabbson with a place to live out his years. I have given several older horses (mares) retirement homes in the past years. The rewards are priceless. Last week I found my 25 year old QH mare dead in the pasture. She simply died...period. Up until that day she was eating and running and being the good ole' girl she always was. I miss her so much. I also know she knew she was loved - she waited for her muzzle smooch every morning before feeding. I hope I read very soon that someone is going to provide Grabbson a forever home. I have one of his daughters..Lena, and she is incredible. With a heavy heartLinda Baker Lottie in Wisconsin Linda Jo Baker Lottie"Oh what a tangled web we weave,when first we practise to deceive"Sir Walter Scott > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:41:31 -0400 > Subject: Grabbson > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Hi List ! > > After reading some of the comments about Grabbson going to auction I called > my old friend from CA. Les Hoagland and asked him to write something to the > list which we had already talked about. > This is NOT a " rescue " Fjord. Far from it. From what I know.Les loves > this horse and is only interested in getting him a great home. He has been to > the Small Farmers Journal auction before and has seen good Fjords get good > homes. > > With the bloodlines of Grabb, and the nice Fjords that Grabbson has > produced, I cant understand why someone hasnt scooped him up. If I didnt have > 4 > intact males here right now, Jeff and I would have brought him here for > breeding. > > Mike may have to correct me on this, but as far as I know, Grabbson is > one of only 2 remaining son's of Grabb in N. America. ( Leik being the other ) > Grabbson has thrown 50 NFHR registered offspring, many grey, so he carries a > grey gene. He has thrown as many foals as his popular sire here. Les reports > to > me that he is NOT hard to handle, in fact is quite easy to be around. > > " Nils " ( Grabb X Siri ) who lived not too far from me was sent off to > Mexico on a long ride to nowhere by someone who had bought him from a very > uncaring owner. I missed being able to get him by one week. He had been > abandoned in a large pasture for a couple of years and was injured.and > running ( > and breeding ) his own daughters, QH's ect.. After giving people many years of > good, sound, nice Fjords to someone to make money on tourest rides, this was > his fate. > > I do not expect that Grabbson will meet with the same fate. I have also seen > Fjords go through the SFJ auction and they usually get a good price as well > as new homes. Someone should give Les a call and make an offer IMHO ! > > Anywayhere is what I recieved last night from them. Lisa > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Lisa > Margaret & I have been working very hard in trying to get Grabbson into a > good home. One that will keep his blood lines in the Registry. We have > advertised > him in many places and talked him up to many people. This last place we are > trying is the Small Farmer Journal Auction and we choose that action because > it > has drawn more Fjord buyers in the past and does not draw the " Meat crowd ". > Due to my health and other reasons we can no longer keep him here. After > all, it was through an auction at Waverly that I was able to get Grabbson. > After > that auction I was contacted by so many people about how wonderful his foals > were. So I'm hoping that someone else can take advantage of a good opportunity > to have a GREAT STALLION at a reasonable price. So Lisa, I hope that you can > help me get the word out that Grabbson is going to the Small Farmer Journal > Auction on April 20. We hope that he finds the right home. > Les > Les & Margaret Hoagland > Callahan, CA > > > > > ** > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. > (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Grabbson
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! After reading some of the comments about Grabbson going to auction I called my old friend from CA. Les Hoagland and asked him to write something to the list which we had already talked about. This is NOT a " rescue " Fjord. Far from it. From what I know.Les loves this horse and is only interested in getting him a great home. He has been to the Small Farmers Journal auction before and has seen good Fjords get good homes. With the bloodlines of Grabb, and the nice Fjords that Grabbson has produced, I cant understand why someone hasnt scooped him up. If I didnt have 4 intact males here right now, Jeff and I would have brought him here for breeding. Mike may have to correct me on this, but as far as I know, Grabbson is one of only 2 remaining son's of Grabb in N. America. ( Leik being the other ) Grabbson has thrown 50 NFHR registered offspring, many grey, so he carries a grey gene. He has thrown as many foals as his popular sire here. Les reports to me that he is NOT hard to handle, in fact is quite easy to be around. " Nils " ( Grabb X Siri ) who lived not too far from me was sent off to Mexico on a long ride to nowhere by someone who had bought him from a very uncaring owner. I missed being able to get him by one week. He had been abandoned in a large pasture for a couple of years and was injured.and running ( and breeding ) his own daughters, QH's ect.. After giving people many years of good, sound, nice Fjords to someone to make money on tourest rides, this was his fate. I do not expect that Grabbson will meet with the same fate. I have also seen Fjords go through the SFJ auction and they usually get a good price as well as new homes. Someone should give Les a call and make an offer IMHO ! Anywayhere is what I recieved last night from them. Lisa Hi Lisa Margaret & I have been working very hard in trying to get Grabbson into a good home. One that will keep his blood lines in the Registry. We have advertised him in many places and talked him up to many people. This last place we are trying is the Small Farmer Journal Auction and we choose that action because it has drawn more Fjord buyers in the past and does not draw the " Meat crowd ". Due to my health and other reasons we can no longer keep him here. After all, it was through an auction at Waverly that I was able to get Grabbson. After that auction I was contacted by so many people about how wonderful his foals were. So I'm hoping that someone else can take advantage of a good opportunity to have a GREAT STALLION at a reasonable price. So Lisa, I hope that you can help me get the word out that Grabbson is going to the Small Farmer Journal Auction on April 20. We hope that he finds the right home. Les Les & Margaret Hoagland Callahan, CA ** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp0030002850) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is it possible that the Norwegians might be interested in frozen semen from Grabbson? If the Norwegians are concerned about losing the draft heritage part of the breed, it might make sense to send it back this way. I have no idea how Grabbson would evaluate as a drafty Fjord, but it is a thought. Gail
RE: Grabbson
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This sounds like something that would be appropriate for a foundation to handle. There would still be issues, of course, but it would make sense that a charitable foundation that is interested in breed improvement/etc could take tax deductible donations of semen. (This could be one of the better tax write-offs eversimilar to the now-banned practice of painters "painting tax deductions" that negated their entire income each yearmaking all of their income tax deductible. Come to think of it, from the stallion's point of view, this might be one of the BEST ways of generating tax deductions EVER!) :) Gail
Re: Grabbson
This message is from: "bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Many breeds deposit semen samples in a gene bank from their foundation stock and I'm wondering if this has been a consideration with the registry in the past? Maybe this came up before, but not to my recollection. Mike, has that ever come up? Not that I am aware of. I don't see where the Registry would fit into this anyway. The semen wouldn't be the property of the Registry unless it was a donation or something. If it was a donation then whose decision would it be as to when to use it, how much to charge for it etc, etc... Mike GOOD POINT. I think other breeds have done this in the interest of breeding back to original lines if necessary, say for instance an immunity problem ever surfaced, in fact I read somewhere that often two different gene banks are used, just in case. I suppose it is the rough equivalency of horticulturists preserving ancient seeds. Thanks for your response. Ruthie, nw mt US
Re: Grabbson
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:23 AM 12/20/2005, you wrote: This message is from: "bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> About 6 years ago on this list there were a rash of letters posted here that profiled a good many of the original stallions... I kept those in a hard copy file and took them out this morning, when I saw Grabbson's name, and read about his sire Grabb from an account of Doctor Brian Jacobsen's... it is priceless! He said some lovely things about about this noteworthy stallion! Many breeds deposit semen samples in a gene bank from their foundation stock and I'm wondering if this has been a consideration with the registry in the past? Maybe this came up before, but not to my recollection. Mike, has that ever come up? Not that I am aware of. I don't see where the Registry would fit into this anyway. The semen wouldn't be the property of the Registry unless it was a donation or something. If it was a donation then whose decision would it be as to when to use it, how much to charge for it etc, etc... Mike Ruthie, nw mt, US === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grabbson
This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I first met Grabbson when he was owned by Bill Steavenson, just 20 miles north of Omaha and before he was sold to Iowa. I still have a picture I took of Bill and Grabbson. He loved that stallion! Tank is a Grabbson offspring I have owned for 10 years. He is personable and mellow and an overall great Fjord! I was so happy when Grabbson went to California knowing he would have great home. I hope someone will buy this horse and give him the home and job he deserves. -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 2nd annual Christmas Carriage Ornaments available at: http://www.geocities.com/zcdc_nm/2005Ornaments An unconscious people, an indoctrinated people, a people fed only on partisan information and opinion that confirm their own bias, a people made morbidly obese in mind and spirit by the junk food of propaganda, is less inclined to put up a fight, to ask questions and be skeptical. That kind of orthodoxy can kill a democracy or worse. - Bill Moyers, National Conference on Media Reform St. Louis, Missouri May 15, 2005
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This message is from: "bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Listers; Just a good word for Les and his stallion, Grabbson. IMO, Grabbson is part of that legendary group of "the beginning" of the fjords in this country. Linda I am always keenly interested in Fjord foundation stock here in the US, it has long been a dream of mine that their bios could be compiled for posterity's sake. I recall this was one of the objectives the Breeder's Committee proposed. About 6 years ago on this list there were a rash of letters posted here that profiled a good many of the original stallions... I kept those in a hard copy file and took them out this morning, when I saw Grabbson's name, and read about his sire Grabb from an account of Doctor Brian Jacobsen's... it is priceless! He said some lovely things about about this noteworthy stallion! Many breeds deposit semen samples in a gene bank from their foundation stock and I'm wondering if this has been a consideration with the registry in the past? Maybe this came up before, but not to my recollection. Mike, has that ever come up? Ruthie, nw mt, US
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This message is from: "Linda Lottie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Listers; Just a good word for Les and his stallion, Grabbson. I own Skyview Erika..out of Bibi and Grabbson.and many of you know how wonderful she is. Her temperment, work ethic, and presence makes her a favorite at my farm. Her son, coming 4, is a darling and has taken to driving like an ole' pro. IMO, Grabbson is part of that legendary group of "the beginning" of the fjords in this country. My hope is for a wonderful, loving home for this ole' guy. Linda in WI .. owner of three very "hair stickin' out" fjordsit has been COLD :( Linda Baker Lottie "this is a process, take time, there is no hurry, do not be hurried, and believe that little by little life will be correct"
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I am sorry but I failed to mention that Grabbson's sire was Grab, who was known as the " Stallion of the Century " and both Grab & Grabbson were in the article about Stallions that have contributed to the Fjord Breed. Also Grabbson has produced 46 ++ progeny at least 6 were gray. This is just to add information about this great Stallion that is for sale. Les & Margaret Hoagland Callahan, California
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail, > So is there anyone of those who are going who wants to purchase him?or > There are quite a few people going, from my understanding, plus some of the UEF members will also be going with funds to make sure some of the high risk Fjords, including Grabbson, are purchased. Lynda Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjords Quality Fjords--Equine Transportation--Hand-braided Tack & Accessories White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 FAX: 775-383-6813 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords United Equine Foundation http://www.unitedequinefoundation.org/homepage.htm Lynda C. Welch President, PMU and Breed Specific Division [EMAIL PROTECTED] UEF Fjord rescue email group: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cynthia - my thoughts exactly re Grabbson - thanks for sharing the history with us. Linda in MN
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/25/2003 12:47:55 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << >Grabbson has been around since well before the >evaluation system and the many new imported horses.I >believe that until fairly recently he represented some >of the best of the breed. It is my understanding that Grabbson is considered "at risk" by the UEF and will be under careful watch to see that he is not purchased by meat buyers. Those of you who are new to the fjordlist may not be aware of the interesting story of Grabbson's sire.Grabb. There is a lengthy discussion in the archives. The history of Grabb is facinating and such an important part of the early importation of fjords to America .. IMO Grabbson deserves to live out his life in a caring and safe home. It is with pride I tell my friends and family how our fabulous fjord community is supporting Tim Hamlett and his fjord friends. It sounds like there will be quite a contingent of "fjord enthusiasts" at the Waverly sale - my daughter and I hope to attend but unfortunately, my husband is keeping the checkbook and my Visa card at home that day :(AW, he's no fun - haha!! Enjoy the day everyone - Linda in MN -2 with a warm up on the way
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This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So is there anyone of those who are going who wants to purchase him?or is he in the "rescue" category at this point? > >Grabbson has been around since well before the >evaluation system and the many new imported horses.I >believe that until fairly recently he represented some >of the best of the breed.
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This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have known Grabbson since before he was sold to Tim. He was sold by Harold Jacobson to Bill Steavenson who sold him to Tim just after I bought Tank from Steavenson. Bill loved this horse. I have a picture of him with his arm around Grabbson's neck taken five years before I bought Tank and the first time I got to meet Fjords after seeing my first one. Many of you know Tank, who has been a great Fjord ambassodor for Fjords since I bought him at age two from Steavenson. We just attended a Jeff Morse driving clinic (more later) and Jeff called him talented (any problems with him are mostly driver caused - no surprise there). Tank has great personality, smarts, and "talent." We have down two CDE's and will be doing more. He has been a healthy and happy horse in the nine years I have owned him. My grandaughters started riding him and driving him at age six and seven when they came to visit and at Blue Earth for several years. I am uploading a picture of Tank under his registered name of Hjerte Barn (means "apple of my eye") into the NFHR pedigree search if any are interested in a picture of one of Grabbson's get. Grabbson has been around since well before the evaluation system and the many new imported horses.I believe that until fairly recently he represented some of the best of the breed. Maybe at 18, his time has passed as an important stallion, there are now better ones. However, I think he deserves to be saved. I wish I could do it. = Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is a picture of Grabbson in Tim Hamlett's ads in every issue of the Fjord Herald for the last 2 years,as well as the "Record Book" in case anyone is interested. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, +25 today >I have a Grabbson grand daughter and she's quite a nice horse. Never been >evaluated, but a good horse nonetheless. She's very much like how Linda >Lottie described her Lena. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Lori Lemley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a Grabbson grand daughter and she's quite a nice horse. Never been evaluated, but a good horse nonetheless. She's very much like how Linda Lottie described her Lena. Lori Lemley Conway, Arkansas
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This message is from: SUSAN GIARGIARI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List! Sue g. here. I have been following the conversations about the Waverly Auction and Tim's horses all going.just to let folks know..Dick and I met Tim and his wife the first year we went to the Libby, MT show...he is a very well meaning man! Friendly, loved his horses. Then I was reaquanted(sp?) with him about 3 years when I went to Norway. His wife had died, not sure when, and he was like a lost soul. He really had a hard time with most things...a few of us kept tabs on him to make sure he was ok. He really has a good heart and I know that if his comment was.I just want them gone...I would almost bet that he is in a depression... I have been there. When you are at the bottom, you just need things done and can't think about it in sane terms. I had a flock of 40 sheep, knew each and every one, had lambs every year from them, and the year that Dick had his first back surgery, we adopted Anthony, all the sheep were ready to lamb.and two litters of Great Pyrene! es were due a week apart..and we had two belgiums, a percheron and her filly, two paint fillysand I had to take care of all of it.needless to say, there came a time when I had to let something go,, I couldn't do it anymore...I sold the whole flock and when they were goneI knew that something was not right in my mind. They were a part of me, each and every one. But I couldn't care for them any more in the way that they needed so I let them go. To hear that Tim has said, He just wants them gonethat is what I said to. It doesn't make it right, it was what I had to do to survive mentally at the time.I just wanted to speak up in Tim's corner and if I had the money!! I would be at Waverly trying to get what I could to help make sure they got into good hands! A little while back , Sam, from Barefoot Farms had asked some questions on this fjord list about a foal that she had that she thought might be a grey. It is a colt, and it is out of Selma, who is a Grabbson daughter. Selma is a grey mare and we bred her to LLA Hilmar. She had a colt, Yngvar! We didn't get over to Sam's until about a month ago and as soon as I saw the colt right up close..I knew I was seeing my first Grey foal! I had never seen a grey that youngJulie Will had told me that when the foal is born, you will see a "Check" mark above each eye that is Blackand it will look like the foal has black eye make up on..the brown dunsof which we have seen plenty of! have a brown "check" mark.. The striping already apparent on this foal's legs is very striking..just like his dam, Selma's. Selma is an awesome mare. She belonged to Castlefjords until a few years ago and when Sam bought her... she was in foal. The stallion was a b! rown dun and Selma had a grey filly, Floyel. Then she was bred last year to a brown dun, Hilmar, and she has a grey colt. I think she also had a few other foals, greys. Dick loves this mare and we have her at the farm here in Northfield , MA as a little trade off! We have the pasture and fields for the foals to get great excercise and she gets to take my mares to use for her riding camps! On a sad note, Floyel was owned by a young girl named, Lia, who bought her from Sam. We took her to the NY Fjord show and Lia was going to enter Horse College in Morrisville, NY where the NFHR Evaluation was held last year. So Floyel stayed on to board at Julie's. Sam got a call last week from Lia and Floyel had to be put down. Please say some prayers for Daryll, Julie's husband at Old Hickory Farm as they have lost one older mare, a different young horse, and Floyel, and I am pretty sure that there was one other horse on the sick list. Floyel was thought to have died from colic...her colon was up over her back? not where it should have been. Lia is home now from college for a break and helping Sam at Barefoot.good for her to keep going and being with her friends! On a happier note, we went to our first Sleigh Rally in Granby, MA last weekend! Talk about cold,,it was only in the teenswe drove our box farm sled with Selma and Hilmar as a team. For practice we had Yngvar hitched to his mom's work harness,,, he was quite the little show off! When he was at Sam's still he would walk all over his mom and never got reprimanded by her..so he also thought it was ok to walk all over the people too! Sam and her husband, Rod, had a lot of fun bringing him in and out with mom from the paddock! When he got to our farm and was put out with his mom, Hilmar, and two other weanlings, Yasmine(Dena/Konggard) and Yuri(Stella/Hilmar).he didn't want to leave mom's side! He has learned all his manners now,amazing what a little time spent in the "herd
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Listers; With the news that Tim Hamlett is liquidating his herd I thought I would talk about my mare, Lena, who is out of Grabbson, Tim' s 18 year old stallion. >From past post's, you already know how much we love Lena ... she is the first mare I have ever owned, first mare in foal I have ever owned and gave us our first foal, Hasse. From the time we brought her home she has been easy to work with, I have never been afraid of her, her occassional "bossiness" is easily dealt with and she is smart!! She was a great mom - is a good pasture mate - loves attention and grooming. I feel she is a nice specimen of a fjordhorse - a nice mover - great temperment - good work ethic - and she is nice to look at. Lena is by no means "perfect" - but, she did not cost $12,000 either. She has not been evaluated - will be this fall. While I am interested in her evaluation score I did not buy her to reproduce - I bought her to ride/drive and enjoy for many years. Whether I rebreed her is unknown - at this point 5 horses is plenty for me!!! Some comment has been made about Grabbson not being trained. I have a quarterhorse that is out of a well known quarterhorse stallion from Wisconsin. My daughter and I visited the stallions home and discovered he is not trained - is never ridden - used for breeding only - but, he has thrown wonderful pleasure prospects in the past 20 years. If anyone is contemplating buying one of Tim's fjords and would like to see an offspring of Grabbson please come see my Lena - I would be happy to show her to you. Linda Lottie in Corcoran MN
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This message is from: Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cynthia wrote ... >>> When you get your farm, can we come visit? <<< Of course, Fjord people are always welcome! Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Dorina ~ NFR Aagot ~
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This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DeeAnna, If you want to see one Grabbson type, you can view pictures of Tank. There are some on the Fjord Mailing List site at http://members.home.net/smcilree There are some pictures of him at Blue Earth last year and on Saskia's page (also accessible from the site), there are some good pictures of him the previous year. BTW, just a reminder, that questions about the list, like the one about unsubscribing, are all answered under the FAQ section on the site. Meredith, You should also consult with your county extension agent regarding pasture and how or if to reseed it. They are going to be familiar with what grows best in your area, especially if you also have some advice from the list as to what is best for Fjord pasture. Good luck! When you get your farm, can we come visit? Cynthia Madden mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Omaha, Nebraska USA
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 6:15 AM Subject: Re: Grabbson >>Thanks Mike for Cliff's address. I can not find the Karen Brown who bought Gunnar from Cliff yet. Jean Gayle Wa. State where it is fairly mild and showers.
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This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:47 AM 2/11/99 -0800, you wrote: >This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Mike just for info Gunnar was foaled in Colo. Jean > >>GUNNAR NFR-W-058-G >>Foaled July 1, 1983 >>Bred by HAROLD C. JACOBSEN, DELAND, FL Yes you are correct Jean. The info that comes from the database gives the breeders current address. There is a different field that has the foaling location.
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike just for info Gunnar was foaled in Colo. Jean -Original Message- From: Mike May, Registrar NFHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 5:38 AM Subject: Re: Grabbson >This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >At 11:35 PM 2/10/99 -0500, you wrote: >>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>Jean, >> >>Who is Gunnar's dam and what year was he born? > > >GUNNAR NFR-W-058-G >Foaled July 1, 1983 >Bred by HAROLD C. JACOBSEN, DELAND, FL > > > BAGGE N-1477 > GULLRING N-1576 > GULLDOKKA N-9490 >GRABB N-1651 N-A-026-S > TORBJORN N-1417 > IVANA N-12275 > FLINKA N-12276 > > LIDAREN N-1653 > FELDER N-1707 > GORUNN N-12804 >GULLDUA N-13969 > JENSAR N-1598 > GULLBORG N-13173 > ASE N-12473 > > > >=== > >Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry >Mike May, Registrar >Voice 716-872-4114 >FAX 716-787-0497 > >http://www.nfhr.com >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:35 PM 2/10/99 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Jean, > >Who is Gunnar's dam and what year was he born? GUNNAR NFR-W-058-G Foaled July 1, 1983 Bred by HAROLD C. JACOBSEN, DELAND, FL BAGGE N-1477 GULLRING N-1576 GULLDOKKA N-9490 GRABB N-1651 N-A-026-S TORBJORN N-1417 IVANA N-12275 FLINKA N-12276 LIDAREN N-1653 FELDER N-1707 GORUNN N-12804 GULLDUA N-13969 JENSAR N-1598 GULLBORG N-13173 ASE N-12473 === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Brian, Gunnar was foaled 83-07-01 and Gulldua was the dam. Jean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Grabbson >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Jean, > >Who is Gunnar's dam and what year was he born? > >Brian Jacobsen > >___ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean Gayle wrote: I was told by someone that Grabb often had get with long bodies and short legs?? Jean, Grabb did have a nice long back and did pass a good back and topline on to his foals. The majority of his offspring to my knowledge have been of about average height, so I'm not sure where someone came up with the short legs. It does seem true though that Grabb's grandchildren are consistently good sized horses, often 14.2 hands. Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean, Who is Gunnar's dam and what year was he born? Brian Jacobsen ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have Gunnar son of Grabb. I was told by someone that Grabb often had get with long bodies and short legs?? But that the second generation was near perfect?? Gunnar is a small but powerful horse with a more refined head and short stout legs and much hair! A tail to die for. Isnt that what makes the fjord? Jean Gayle :)) -Original Message- From: . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 1:27 PM Subject: Grabbson >This message is from: "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Tim Hamlett (whose wife Phyllis recently passed away) owns the stallion >Grabbson. While there's been some great stories of Grabb, his father, I >haven't heard much about Grabbson. Does anyone have an opinion about the >qualities of this particular stallion or his offspring, either pro or con? > >Thanks in advance, >DeeAnna >
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This message is from: Cynthia Madden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Before Tim bought Grabbson about 5 years ago, he was owned by Bill Steavenson of Fontenelle, Nebraska who bought him from Harold Jacobson. Bill had Grabbson and four mares that he bred every year. We bought Tank from Bill in 1994. At that time, Grabbson was already at Tim's farm, but still co-ownership with Bill. Soon after that, I believe Bill sold out his share to Tim. We first met Bill and Grabbson five years before that (1989) right after I had discovered Fjords. I have a wonderful picture of Bill and Grabbson taken at that time. (Bill died in 1997). They had a very good relationship with each other. If you are interested in knowing about Grabbson's get, I can only tell you about Tank who I think is one of the most wonderful horses around. He has personality and presence. He is smart and trains very easily. He does have the inherited Fjord weight problem (not limited to Grabbson get). Bill Falck can tell you a lot about Grabbson's lines and what he thinks of his sons and daughters. You will have to get Sharon to get him to use the Internet or just give him a call. Cynthia Madden mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Omaha, Nebraska USA
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This message is from: "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tim Hamlett (whose wife Phyllis recently passed away) owns the stallion Grabbson. While there's been some great stories of Grabb, his father, I haven't heard much about Grabbson. Does anyone have an opinion about the qualities of this particular stallion or his offspring, either pro or con? Thanks in advance, DeeAnna
