Fw: Truck Info--regarding hauling a gooseneck with a short bed
This message is from: Robin Churchill - Forwarded Message - From: Robin Churchill To: EmailUser bolinsj Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: Re: Truck Info I have the short bed now and I have one of those hitch extender balls which has made it a little easier although I hauled it for a long time without with no problem but I am aware of the potential and was just careful. I don't know the difference but the guy that delivered our trailer because they didn't have it right when we went to pick it up was an experienced trailer hauler and he put it through the back window of his boss' short bed pickup--don't remember what brand that was.. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Horse hauling?
This message is from: Corinne Logan Anyone know of a shipper going coast to coast? We need to get a horse from Seattle area to Wisconsin. Anyone going on a road trip? Alternately we will be hauling out ourselves in a few weeks if someone needs a horse hauled ... Corinne Logan Willows Edge Farm Bothell, WA (425) 402-6781 www.willowsedgefarm.com Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
equipment for hauling horses
This message is from: Melinda Schumacher I'm considering getting a horse trailer and an appropriate vehicle for towing. Probably for two horses. I am wondering what vehicles and trailers any of you might recommend, and why you like them. thanks, Melinda in Granville Ohio horribly hot and humid with Mirakel the Boss and Norrman the Prankster Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Horse hauling
This message is from: Linda McThoy Patorni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for your advice. Linda On Mar 6, 2008, at 3:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > < of them > being loose, not constrained in any way. Do I need to put > shipping boots, or > any other protection? >> > > She was loose and had enough room to easily turn around, walk back and > forth, and could have laid down if she had been so inclined. Della > did not have > any shipping boots, nor did the other horses he transported on > that trip. If > you have someone you know is an uneasy traveler, or paws and > kicks, it's > probably a good idea. But I wouldn't put them on for my guys if I > was shipping > again. > > Kate > > > > > **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL > Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Linda McThoy Patorni [EMAIL PROTECTED] The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Horse hauling
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> She was loose and had enough room to easily turn around, walk back and forth, and could have laid down if she had been so inclined. Della did not have any shipping boots, nor did the other horses he transported on that trip. If you have someone you know is an uneasy traveler, or paws and kicks, it's probably a good idea. But I wouldn't put them on for my guys if I was shipping again. Kate **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: hauling harness
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Glad you enjoyed the Northwest. We do too. Next time you come through, let us know and we will invite you to visit. Peg Knutsen www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord/ - Original Message - From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 11:43 AM Subject: hauling harness This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm looking for ideas on how to transport and store harness.When I had a singles harness,I put it in a Rubbermaid Action Packer.It fit well and the lid would not blow offf in the back of the pick up because it locks down.Now that I have a pairs harness,it is much larger and heavier.Any ideas on what kind to buy and where or how to build one? Wheels might be nice. Thanks,Ellen in hot and humid Va p.s. to all you Oregon,Washington folks We just got back from our 30th anniversary trip.We wanted to go to the Pacific northwest because we never had been to the west coast.We both commented on how nice the people were.We certainly enjoyed your summer weather and I'm still filling up my photo album with the beautiful sights we saw. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
hauling harness
This message is from: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm looking for ideas on how to transport and store harness.When I had a singles harness,I put it in a Rubbermaid Action Packer.It fit well and the lid would not blow offf in the back of the pick up because it locks down.Now that I have a pairs harness,it is much larger and heavier.Any ideas on what kind to buy and where or how to build one? Wheels might be nice. Thanks,Ellen in hot and humid Va p.s. to all you Oregon,Washington folks We just got back from our 30th anniversary trip.We wanted to go to the Pacific northwest because we never had been to the west coast.We both commented on how nice the people were.We certainly enjoyed your summer weather and I'm still filling up my photo album with the beautiful sights we saw. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: when to stop when hauling
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pat, On the trip from MN to ID, we traveled no more than 8 hours a day and we stopped once a day for the horse to get out, per your instructions. We selected places where there was room and away from heavy traffic (when possible). You knew the horse and you handled him when he was out. We also had bathroom breaks for us humans and fuel breaks for the Dodge. :-) On the way to MN, I stopped for bathroom breaks and fuel break but did not unload the 3 horses I was hauling out. They were allowed a long lead so they could drop their head and they were given good clean grass hay to munch on. It was wetted down so that the horses get some moisture in them. I also did not drive more than 8 hours a day. (Mainly because I needed the rest.) At each overnight they would be hand walked for 15- 25 minutes and then turned out if possible for exercise, and then they were groomed and bedded down for the night. This process for 3 horses took a few hours, so that was why I only drove 8 hours maximum a day. (I was traveling by myself.) The roads were very easy compared to some of the back roads out west. It w mainly a straight shot. Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bumper sticker of the year: "If you can read this, thank a teacher -and, since it's in English, thank a soldier" The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
when to stop when hauling
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How often is "stopping often" in you opinion? Do you get them out and walk them around or just take a break from movement? On this particular trip with this particular horse we did stop maybe twice a day - and got him out. But this trip carried a bit more concern than I usually had to deal with. We had a 19 year old, that was being doctored from a respiratory issue acquired at the Anniversary Event. He had been stalled for 4 days at the event, and he was used to turnout. I left the event early Sunday because I had the opportunity to turn him out at Kathy Monroe's and Nancy Barmore's farm near the Winona facility - then he was loaded early the next morning for the long haul to Idaho. With a "normal" situation and with a younger horse I might not have gotten them out and about - just stopped the movement. We did stop each night and allow the horse to get his sea legs back. We utilized turnout paddocks instead of box stalls - The accommodations varied greatly when you stop at these "horse motels". In our case with a breeding stallion we lucked out and all went well. If your hauling long distance and want to use one of these kind of accommodations - ask, ask ask..friends ahead of time. Some of them are very nice,...others questionable. When we stopped at various times during the day (maybe twice a day ? - Catherine you can remind my memory here) and I led him around on a lunge tape - once at a rest area, another in a gas station parking lot, I think once in a Wal-Mart parking lot - places like that. However I do not recommend just stopping anywhere and taking your horse for a walk.. unless you know him VERY well. Hauling horses is a feel, each horse is different. You first have to know your individual horse and the trailer your hauling. Ventilation systems vary in each trailer. Ride in the back sometime - open and close the windows and vents and see for yourself where the air flows - sometimes the "sweat" your seeing on your horses is actually the condensation from poorly ventilated trailers. Hauling and stopping also depends on the road system your on - I-90 west of MN for the most part is level and an "easy" ride for a horse (also many parts of I-80 ) - from experience I've noticed many horses fall asleep and relax well on such a road - however if your stopping allot, or changing speeds, or adapting to curves and hills - it'll take its toll on the horse. A good driver is worth their weight in gold - someone who understands what they are hauling. Lastly - this horse already came with lots of hauling experience - I joked he had more road miles than a UPS truck - so take that into consideration when you load your horse for a trip. A young inexperienced horse with few road miles will need different attention. Pat H The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Hauling tips
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/27/2007 12:09:27 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > We stopped often and let him stretch and relax -" > > How often is "stopping often" in you opinion? Do you get them out and walk > them around or just take a break from movement? > > Hi Jerrie ! We hauled just over 16,000 miles in 2006. We plan our trips to give the Fjords no more than 10 hours of being in the trailer. 8 is even better. We stop every couple of hours for at least 20 min. to let them stand and relax. We do NOT unload them. Any professional hauler would agree that more accidents result in the loading and unloading process, or even worse.getting loose in some truck stop grass area, than safely leaving them in their trailer. We tie them with long leads so that they can get their heads down and sneeze or cough the road dust out. Dispite every trick, mine do not drink ( much if anything ) while trailering, although they all have water buckets hanging in front of them. We feed them early.allowing them to eat and drink their breakfast, than load up and go. Since they do not drink in the trailer, we do not hang hay in front of them. Once unloaded.we feed their " noon feed " with some extra salt or minerals to encourage drinking. When we see that they are eating and drinking normally, we give them their hay dinner. One problem that we DO have is, that mine are all potty trained at home not to poop in their inside stalls, so at layover places with closed box stalls we have to watch them or even take them outside somewhere to do their business. At shows, they seem to know that its a differant place and are happy to poop up their stalls galore. Usually laying down for a snooze in it just before a class BTW. We also have to UNBED any straw filled stalls in layover places, as they will eat it all night long. ; / ( stomache's full of dry straw, no drinking all the next day, oh ohhh ) Just MHO of course, Lisa ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: hauling horses
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pat, We have a 1994 Dodge Duel Wheel Diesel 1 ton truck with exhaust breaks and manual gears for hauling. Our large trailer is a 6 horse aluminum Featherlite ramp with emergency exit up front. It is an older model with the heavier axles. What makes the trip is the exhaust breaks and manual shift. The dual wheels are also a great feature. If I did not have them I would have had a big accident on the way to Winona due to a bad tire. I must give credit to Rune (my husband) for teaching me the ropes. He has a CDL and when we first drove together, he gave me good advice on traveling with big trucks. The trip Pat is talking about was a good one. Hostar hauled well and was very happy to be in the trailer. He is a very well behaved stallion. When in doubt, go bigger! You will be happier in the long run. Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden Bed, Barn, Breakfast, Baskets & Buhunds www.hestehaven.com Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: hauling horses
This message is from: "karl & Jerrie Froelch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pat wrote "... We stopped often and let him stretch and relax -" How often is "stopping often" in you opinion? Do you get them out and walk them around or just take a break from movement? Our mares always get very sweaty when they travel. This seems like an indication of stress to me although they show no other signs of being bothered by travel. They eat and drink and leave healthy droppings and step happily into the trailer every time. Jerrie Froelich The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
hauling horses
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Whatever Catherine Lassesen has to haul with -maybe she'll come onto the list and tell you what she has - but when we took Hostar back to Idaho - the trip went exceptionally well because of her unit. Or maybe its because Catherine is such an intuitive driver with livestock in tow - Hostar arrived after three days on the road in fantastic shape, 100% sound and content, even after becoming sick at the Winona Event. We stopped often and let him stretch and relax - I know her trailer was an older (better) Feathrlite - made much better than the new ones. I don't remember what kind of truck she had but she drove it like a seasoned long haul trucker driver - I never did publically thank Catherine for her work on that trip - it was long and tedious and it would have been hard to find a better companion for the trip. I'll always remember her great care and concern for the care of an animal I thought the world of. Thanks Catherine, your a gem and I'll always remember that trip with fond memories. Pat Holland The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
hauling to blue earth
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi. i am wondering if there is anyone else in minnesota that is going to blue earth that might have room to haul oz there for me. as you all might know, he is for sale, and if i can take him to blue earth, patti jo is willing to take him back to her place with her. i am hesitant to do it myself, since i am not 100% yet after my knee surgery. i get around fine, but i am not quite ready to deal with anything heavy duty yet. i am north of st. cloud, just outside of little falls. thanks laurie
hauling mileage rates
This message is from: "David McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I might not have seen every one of the posts about hauling, so might duplicate what someone has already said. Over the years I have done quite a few miles of hauling other people horses, and so can see it from that perspective. There are many factors to consider. I'll start with prices. A year and a half ago I was told by someone who routinely hauls horses that the going "normal" rate to be competitive at that time was $1.43 per loaded mile. As I say many factors come into play. If you are hauling four horses from next to your home, and headed for a place where you are picking up for more horses, this might be ideal. Except on highly traveled routes, like Route 95 north from Florida for instance, things rarely work out so well, and the prices have to be higher, sometimes much higher. Many hauls involve going significantly out of the way, for single horses, including driveways that are risky to turn around in. All of this involves time, expense, and the risk of damage to the vehicle. .. Another factor is the nature of the cargo. For a while I did some hauling of inanimate stuff. I was getting paid a dollar fifty a loaded mile, and the trips were convenient and most often with out an urgent timetable. By contrast, with horses, you are hauling potentially delicate live creatures. More than one horse, and you have opportunities for conflict or disease. You have some serious regulation requirements. A year ago last December I hauled two Morgans from Denver to New Hampshire. Lots of apologies, yes, but the vet did not have Coggins papers for me. I had another horse aboard, and a schedule, and left without them. The papers didn't catch up until eastern Nebraska. There's a stress factor in this kind of problem. Plus, I could have potentially endangered the first horse. The Morgans I picked up from a long-term serious breeder, and national judge. There should not have been any problems with paperwork, and yet there were. You have to do long-distance to have a chance at making any money at all. What does it cost in time and effort to strip the trailer and clean walls and floor with bleach, which I felt I owed to my customer (and to my horses). If I were to do any local hauling, I would start with a minimum charge. So I preferred long-distance, but also I quickly came to realize that the next best thing after the horses were loaded was the moment when they were unloaded at the other end. It made sense to get them there as quick as possible. Here is another factor. Quality of hauling makes a huge difference. Quality of trailer, quality of knowledge and skill of the driver, and his/her willingness to pay close attention to the animals no matter what inconvenience to him/her, attention to all the things that can cause problems with horses, all of these things matter a great deal. I so often hear the expression "you get what you paid for", but I feel there is a more random result. Your high price may be a disaster along with the same possibility for the low price. Horse trailering is not a uniform commodity. And in the last year, I learned (and believe I've posted here) the results of Budweiser's experience trailering horses and the protocols they've developed. Much as I preferred to do 800 miles days, Budweiser's experience recommends a total of 800 miles in three days, one of which is a rest day. This is backed up by a deep wealth of experience and analysis. I'm not sure how much my consistent success in long-distance trailering (quite a few 1000-2000 mile hauls) was doing things right, and how much was just pure luck. Looking at the pay, the wear and tear, and above all the risks, I don't expect to be doing this kind of work. I am glad that others are willing to, and many are very highly qualified. Nonetheless, as a horse owner, I would expect to worry the whole time my horses are en route. Hauling my horses myself at least lets me be on the scene, which makes a huge difference. 'Sall I know. Dave
HAULING
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In a message dated 6/23/2006 7:24:10 PM Mountain Standard Time,
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> i just got a quote from a company who shall remain nameless to haul oz
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> minnesota to patti jo's place on the other side of wisconsin.$450
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Hi List !
Since the topic is hauling, thought I would throw an offer out and
see if anyone needs a ride.
We are soon headed on several road trips with horse trailers, picking up
and delivering. We have to go to central CA and get a carriage as soon as it
arrives up in Solvang. If anyone is interested in a ride for their Fjord from
CA to S. UT through S. CA into Sin City than up, let me know. We have 3
stallions here availible for breeding this summer, and would be happy to bring
your
approved NFHR mare(s) here.
Than, we are headed all the way back to the upper Midwest, first to S.
WI, than up to N. WI. than back to UT. We have an empty trailer headed, and one
or 2 spots availible comming back.
Anyone needing transport give a shout. We will give a great rate to help
gas expenses.
We are not professional haulers, but do have years of uneventfull long
distance hauling. ( Figure if Jeff can drive a 30' Firetruck going code 3 in
Orange Co. CA traffic he is pretty good ) ( no, your horse wont be going code
3,
Jeff is Mr. 5 miles UNDER the speed limit always )
WARNING : He stops at every Sportsmans Warehouse's, and CABELAS.
* yes, I mean EVERY.
Lisa Pedersen * warm, sunny Cedar City, UTAH
Re: hauling
This message is from: "Reena Giola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> yes, well when we shipped Gustav from CA to MI it was $800 and it was the same when he was shipped from MI to AZ...I paid $1050 for Bogie to come to AZ from WI (for some reason it was a hard route for many shippers) so Kay, it doesn't surprise me with the price of gas that it was that much.Gas wasn't as high last year. Reena and Gustav AZ The adorable Bogie just came to me (SE MI) from Tucson to the tune of $1100 and change (Kay--MI) OUCH. that really sounds extreme, kay. my second quote from MN to patti jo's place was $350, from a place that regularly goes coast to coast and wouldn't ya know, the day i was pricing transport to send him, i got THREE inquiries about oz. go figure...... laurie, who is tired of hauling her knee around and is waiting not to patiently to feel normal againwhatever normal is...and normal is overrated anyhow :)
Re: hauling
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/23/06 8:24:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The adorable Bogie just came to me (SE MI) from Tucson to the tune of > $1100 and change > OUCH. that really sounds extreme, kay. my second quote from MN to patti jo's place was $350, from a place that regularly goes coast to coast and wouldn't ya know, the day i was pricing transport to send him, i got THREE inquiries about oz. go figure.. laurie, who is tired of hauling her knee around and is waiting not to patiently to feel normal againwhatever normal is...and normal is overrated anyhow :)
Re: hauling horses and Murray State
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I charge per mile from the time I leave my driveway to the time I return to my driveway. $1.50 per mile loaded or empty. Not only does one consider gas and wear and tear but your time as well needs to be part of the formula. Make sure your insurance covers hauling another horse besides the ones you own. If your hauling the horse out of state make sure the horse has current coggins and interstate health papers. Pat Holland - after a long trip hauling my daughter to look at colleges...(I didn't need coggins or interstate health papers with her ; ) .. anyone on this list an alumni of Murray State University in Murray, Kt. Beautiful place - she is majoring in Music Ed. Two days there and I came back with a southern accent..someone please call me from north Midwest - I need to hear that wonderful "Almost Canadian" accent - love it.
Re: Hauling a hor$$$e
This message is from: "Pam In Palmdale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kay, I know exactly what you mean, using the same shipper & for a shorter trip, my Renate's shipping charge was almost 3x what I paid last year, for a pregnant large draft mare. Unfortunately, sky high gas prices are really driving shipping charges up and for us regular people, out of state purchases will become a luxury. Pam In Palmdale - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 7:40 AM Subject: Re: Hauling a hor$$$e This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The adorable Bogie just came to me (SE MI) from Tucson to the tune of $1100 and change. They took good care of him but it is a lot of money for a regular person. I'm not arguing 'cause I'm not a professional hauler and I don't know everything involved nor do I have a list of suitable horse hotels between AZ and me. Still, Braveheart may have to take a second job. And it certainly put a dent in the new-saddle-for-Bogie fund. Ah, well. Kay
Re: Hauling a hor$$$e
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The adorable Bogie just came to me (SE MI) from Tucson to the tune of $1100 and change. They took good care of him but it is a lot of money for a regular person. I'm not arguing 'cause I'm not a professional hauler and I don't know everything involved nor do I have a list of suitable horse hotels between AZ and me. Still, Braveheart may have to take a second job. And it certainly put a dent in the new-saddle-for-Bogie fund. Ah, well. Kay
Re: hauling
This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All this talk of hauling horses for money, you'd better check with your insurance company. You'll probably find your regualr insurance does not cover "commercial" hauling. Karen _ Research and compare new cars side by side at carpoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F833884&_t=54321&_r=hotmail_endtext&_m=EXT
Re: hauling horses
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i just got a quote from a company who shall remain nameless to haul oz from minnesota to patti jo's place on the other side of wisconsin.$450 laurie Laurie that comes to about $1/mile one way which is normal for a horse transport company in my experience. -- Genie Dethloff Ann Arbor, Michigan
Re: hauling horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i just got a quote from a company who shall remain nameless to haul oz from minnesota to patti jo's place on the other side of wisconsin.$450 laurie
hauling
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hauling Rates For years the price has been anywhere from .50 a mile to 1.50 a mile. You must take into consideration ... fuel, oil, wear & tear on the trailer, & truck, INSURANCE cost... are you covered for hauling other people's horses and you must consider your time. Government allowance repaying for use of a personal vehicle for business is $ 0.485 per mile. If I haul as a favor for a friend or good client, I charge fuel plus any extra expenses. (meal on the road, hotel, horse hotel costs...) Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden Bed, Barn, Breakfast & Baskets Southern Oregon
Re: Hauling a horse
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Geniethis is a friend and I think $1.00 is fair. Twelve years ago we paid $.50 a mile for our trainer to haul. My friend is a poor vet student friend of my daughtersI'll give her a little break. But, still nice to know the going rate in case I am asked again. BTWnext week I am taking Sven to the city of Grantsburg Library for the summer kids reading program. I'll take Sven, my polka-dot Leapord App, and my sz A mini. Daughter Anne is helping. Hoping we get our photo in the paper. Whooohooo, fjords LJBL in WI On 6/22/06 5:04 PM, "Genie Dethloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I've always paid $1.00/mile. If it is a local trip or they are just > taking my horse, they would charge both ways. If it is on the way to > somewhere they are going anyway with other horses, then they charge > one way (mileage out of the main route is a little more per mile or > they charge both ways). Any charge less than $1.00/ mile would be a > "gift" to your friend.
Re: hauling
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Agree, Jeanand to be honest, I don't really like to haul others horsesjust not my thing. LJBL On 6/22/06 6:05 PM, "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thanks for all the input and to Linda for asking the question! Yes, I > think I will keep track of the miles and charge $.50 /mile round > trip. That is a good compromise I think, for my friend...who is really > just an acquaintance who just bought a Fjord last year! After all it IS > wear and tear on my truck and on me plus my time! > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska > > >> I charge .50 per mile for my birthday party service. I figure it helps with >> all the other expenses and wear and tear on your rig.
Re: hauling
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the input everyoneI think I'll go for around $.60 a mile. linda On 6/22/06 5:09 PM, "lhedelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "lhedelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Linda, > Definitely figure it round trip. > Laura
Re: hauling
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for all the input and to Linda for asking the question! Yes, I think I will keep track of the miles and charge $.50 /mile round trip. That is a good compromise I think, for my friend...who is really just an acquaintance who just bought a Fjord last year! After all it IS wear and tear on my truck and on me plus my time! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska I charge .50 per mile for my birthday party service. I figure it helps with all the other expenses and wear and tear on your rig.
Re: Hauling a horse
This message is from: Genie Dethloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've always paid $1.00/mile. If it is a local trip or they are just taking my horse, they would charge both ways. If it is on the way to somewhere they are going anyway with other horses, then they charge one way (mileage out of the main route is a little more per mile or they charge both ways). Any charge less than $1.00/ mile would be a "gift" to your friend. -- Genie Dethloff Ann Arbor, Michigan
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This message is from: "lhedelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linda, Definitely figure it round trip. Laura
hauling
This message is from: "lhedelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linda, I charge .50 per mile for my birthday party service. I figure it helps with all the other expenses and wear and tear on your rig. I don't think it is unreasonable. Where are you going? We've been looking for a paint for Sara for several months, and have recently expanded our search nation wide. We have a few we'd like to look at, but the expense of hauling a trailer to look at a horse you're not sure you're going to buyPerhaps we could share expenses?? Laura
Re: Hauling a horse
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jeanhummm, I am thinking more like 55 cents a milebut, that is including wear and tear on the vehicle and my time. I am wondering too, if I count the trip home in the calculations. Thanks for your thoughtsothers? Linda On 6/22/06 2:23 PM, "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am wondering the same thing. Considering the cost of gas you might > calculate how many miles per gallon your outfit gets (hauling a trailer > with horse in it) and start from there. > If my old 3/4 ton F250 gets 10 miles per gallon AT BEST when pulling a > loaded trailer ( more like 8 or less I think) and a gallon costs $2.90, > then it is at least $.29/ mile just for gas. So I think I am going to > charge $.30/ mile for the total trip on a local haul here: empty to pick up > horse, and full to the clinic, and then empty back home. Probably > about 40 miles @ $.30/mile or at least $12 to haul the horse TO the > clinic, and another $12 to haul the horse back to the owners home. And > that covers just the gas. I think I will charge her $25 to $30 total as > she is a friend. > > Does that sound reasonable to other folks? > > Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and will be 70 degrees today. > > > >> Hi...can someone give me an idea what I might charge to haul a horsedoes >> one charge by the mile? Linda in WI
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am wondering the same thing. Considering the cost of gas you might calculate how many miles per gallon your outfit gets (hauling a trailer with horse in it) and start from there. If my old 3/4 ton F250 gets 10 miles per gallon AT BEST when pulling a loaded trailer ( more like 8 or less I think) and a gallon costs $2.90, then it is at least $.29/ mile just for gas. So I think I am going to charge $.30/ mile for the total trip on a local haul here: empty to pick up horse, and full to the clinic, and then empty back home. Probably about 40 miles @ $.30/mile or at least $12 to haul the horse TO the clinic, and another $12 to haul the horse back to the owners home. And that covers just the gas. I think I will charge her $25 to $30 total as she is a friend. Does that sound reasonable to other folks? Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, sunny and will be 70 degrees today. Hi...can someone give me an idea what I might charge to haul a horsedoes one charge by the mile? Linda in WI
Hauling a horse
This message is from: Linda Lottie User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi...can someone give me an idea what I might charge to haul a horsedoes one charge by the mile? Linda in WI
Re: hauling Florida-Colorado-Florida
This message is from: "Nancy Newport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hauling horses from Florida to Colorado on June 19 - with the return trip around July 4. Will have room to haul 9-10 horses or carriages or whatever on the return trip. Please contact Bob or Brenda Giles in Florida for more information, 352-489-0867. Thanks, Nancy Newport Lyons, Colorado
Re: hauling from FL to PA and back 10/28-30
This message is from: Nancy Newport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List: I will be picking up a horse just north of Philly traveling from Gainesville, FL and back 10/28-30. I have a stock trailer and could take 2 horses up in separate stalls or 4 if they would tie together. I could also transport 2 carriages up. Coming back I could handle 2 additional horses or 1 carriage. This is a last minute trip, so if anyone needs a horse or carriage shipped let me know asap. Nancy Newport Gainesville, Florida 352-331-0356 Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/
Fjords for sale plus hauling to TX
This message is from: "Janne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greetings from ND. I am hauling a fjord to TX later this month. Have room for more either way down the corridor from NE N. Dakota to East TX or back. Reasonable rates. Also offering for sale older well broke to drive and do farm work type gelding. Drafty and strong. $4000, email for more info. He loves to work and needs a home that will use him more than we can. May even consider trade for young filly. email for info. Weanling colt by FSF Tor out of MF Stapastein Kaja. Great pride in his move, yet super gentle and easy going. $1800 These are owned by a friend who needs to cut back: Yearling filly, by FSF Tor out of Liv, super nice filly , offered at a great price, $1800. Price will go up come spring. She is leggy, tall, great expression and that beautiful head. Absolutely show quality filly. I may buy her myself. Lars and Bjorn. Full brother matching team of geldings, 3 and 4 years old. By Advent Hill Oliver, and out of Liv. Are now in training together and are doing super good. I cannot tell who is who of these two boys, they are so well mathced. About 14.1hh Can be reg,tho are currently not. email for price and more info. Two weanling colts, both by FSF Tor and one out of Sne the other out of Liv. Reasonable price. Janne Myrdal
Re: hauling with a Dogde Dakota
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayne, You might not have as much of a problem going as stopping. I'd check the weight of your trailer (our featherlite weighs 3300lbs), verify the weight of the horses(and think about how much they'll weigh when full grown), and then check the Dodge website or your owners manual. And don't get stuck behind anything super slow on any hills! Sara Prospective Fjord Owner & Current QH owner
Hauling horses
This message is from: "finally r farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I hope that this summer my family and my beloved three Fjords will be moving home to Washington State from Missouri. When we moved out to Missouri ( 3 years ago), the company that hired me paid for a commercial hauler whom I was very happy with. Now, we are going to haul them back, only this time no commercial hauler will be involved. So here are the questions. 1. How long can/should the horses be hauled for? 2. Should I put straw or something down for such a long trip?( Their feet will be wrapped.) 3. What should I do overnight? 4. What do I do about execerise? Is it better to take them out and just let them walk around or should I lunge them? 5. Feed consideration The trailer will most likely be a tandem axle, 3 or 4 horse, no air shocks (like commercial hauler had ) and a bumper pull. Anything that you think is an important consideration, please let me know Jeri in Missouri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: "truman matz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > to Judy, > sorry, I do not haul horses for others :-( > Janet = If you're ever looking for an extra job, perhaps you should!! BTW, the T/B mare is doing much better, (at least from what she was after the incident), although to her owner who knew her "when", she's got a long way to go. This mare is the daughter of Rose Argent, (hope that's right), whom I understand was pretty famous. Of course, the only two T/B's I was aware of were Secretariat and Man O War. Thanks to all who showed concern. Judy
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pat one more thing in regards to checking the trailer well. My first trailer was a beauty, a Cedilla of trailers made by Westline. They must have grown tired of the business because when I ordered an extra long extra high some eight years later it was a mess. I sent it back with thirty plus corrections needed. When I eventually loaded my big Charley horse I wondered about his tending to "canter" as we went along. It became the joke of my group about Charley cantering in his trailer. I thought it was just the newness to him. However, I began to get a pattern of this occurring when I applied the brakes. I had the brakes and wiring checked and sure enough there were exposed wires against the frame. Charley is an overly sensitive horse and can easily sense the electric fence is back on duty and when it is not. So in the trailer he was getting a charge whenever I applied the brakes. Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
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This message is from: Pat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with many of the points brought up with trailering horses. I can add a few though. The issue with the quality of the trailer is important. If the trailer sounds like a tin box when you load a horse, think what it feels like to the horse when your rattling down the road. Not reassuring at 65 mph on the interstate. The better constructed, the better the ride. Road vibration is tedious. Buy a trailer with different options for ventilation and change the air flow according to the time of day, time of year and weather. Notice if your trailer is collecting condensation. I am not comfortable with turning a horse free in a trailer, although when we import weanlings I did not tie them. But I adjusted the driving accordingly. I do not like full panels between horses, this is your main reason for a horse to scramble, and difficult to stop a horse from doing so once they have a scramble episode. One of the most important things is know your horse, if they are acting other than normal adjust whatever your doing. If your doing everything right their behavior should not be much different than at home. When I drive a trailer I've developed a feel for the movement in the back. I can almost tell which horse is moving. I am so paranoid about taking corners, accelerating and decelerating that when I get home and drive my car I drive the same way for a week. If your ever in Galena and see a green Bravada taking corners wide like a semi - its only me and you know I just came back from a trip with the horses.
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This message is from: Janet McNally <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Okay, for those of you with stock-type trailers, I'm curious. > > Do you tie your horses? If so, how? Facing forward, sideways, or > backwards? With a regular tie rope or an elastic type tie? How do you > minimize the potential for horses slipping and falling on curves or > hills or during an emergency stop? Hi, We have a regular 16 foot stock type gooseneck trailer. The goose neck gives you a smoother ride, and is much easier to get out of tight places. We installed a home made slant devider, so that the front 2-4 feet can be used as a tack room. The back then can haul 4 average horses on the slant, with the heads facing forward, although I've heard of people who alternated the horses too. This has worked extreemly well for us on very long trips, but as I said before, I insist on unloading the horses every 12 hours and at least standing still for 30 minutes every 3+ hours. Standing in a moving trailer is work, even for a horse, and I feel it is especially important to be sure the horses (and driver!) are rested before entering the mountains. I would never unload any horse, no matter how trustworthy, at a typical way side rest stop. It is much too easy for them to run out onto the highway if anything spooked them. Instead we have found that fair grounds or rodeo arenas are rather easy and plentiful to find and much safer, and if empty, you can turn them loose in the arena for a good romp and roll. I tie the horse with the lead rope, giving enough rope for lots of freedom, but never enough to get a foot over, and make sure that one horse cannot attempt to walk under another's neck. Sand provides the best traction on the floor, and some wood shavings over top of the sand can help absorbe urine. Before ever hauling horses, the driver should ride in the trailer around curves, with stops etc to get a feel for what it is like to travel back there. I read a study that found horses travelled best when facing to the rear of the trailer. They are better able to brace themselves in this possition, the slant is the next best thing. to Judy, sorry, I do not haul horses for others :-( Janet
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This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Okay, for those of you with stock-type trailers, I'm > curious. > > Do you tie your horses? If so, how? Facing forward, > sideways, or > backwards? With a regular tie rope or an elastic > type tie? How do you > minimize the potential for horses slipping and > falling on curves or > hills or during an emergency stop? We used to use a stock trailer to haul horses. They were tied on the diagonal, all facing the same side of the trailer with regular halter ropes. All rode fine. Then we bought a 'converted' stock trailer which had two solid divider tie stalls with mangers/tie rings and steel gates behind. The back one-third of the trailer was just an open space which was closed in by shutting the back door of the trailer and locking the slider door. This was a HEAVY steel trailer with a wood floor. We used it to haul all kinds of combinations of horses - from mares and babies to three adults. We always tied the two in the front 'stalls'(facing forward, usually)using trailer ties with 'quick release' snaps on one end. There was just one horse in the back part of the trailer - either a foal(hauled loose and bedded with straw) or an older horse(tied facing one side or the other - depending on which 'front horse' was most compatible with the 'back horse'). Must say we NEVER had ANY problems hauling horses with this trailer. We hauled Fjord mares, foals, mares WITH foals, fully harnessed Clydes, ponies - and everything in between. We always put either sawdust/wood chips or straw on the floors to help with footing and absorb liquids(which can be a major cause of horses slipping in the trailer). Later we bought a 'regular' two horse trailer - Circle J 'forward facing' with removable center divider. We hauled a pair of Fjord geldings in this trailer - tied in facing forward. Floor usually had some absorbent material on it for footing. The only problem we EVER had with this arrangement occurred when we put "mud cork" shoes on the hind feet of one of the geldings. He could not keep his feet under him with these "high heeled shoes" and so scrambled all over the trailer. It was the one and only time he ever fussed in the trailer, so it HAD to be the shoes. We removed the shoes and voila! he was fine again. I would never haul a horse with either 'sharp shoes'(for ice) or 'mud corks' in a trailer without a very good divider-preferable a solid divider all the way to the floor-to keep him from stepping on the horse next to him. It's bad enough if they step on themselves - even leg bandages sometimes do not prevent injury with these shoes. Possibly using very thick floor bedding - sand or sawdust? - would help this problem. I just chose to eliminate the problem by pulling the shoes. We have never had a horse fall in the trailer on curvy roads(you have to remember that there is 'live cargo' back there and drive sensibly) or in an emergency. Our emergency stop(a blown trailer tire) occurred with the 'front facing/tied in' trailer. Those boys hit the chest pads on the mangers, but never moved otherwise. They stayed in the trailer while the spare was put on, AND while the trailer was parked at the Les Schwaub dealership having new tires put on. They just stood there and slept or ate. These were Fjords of course - 4 year olds - so their naturally calm nature probably helped. Possibly a more 'frantic' breed might have lost it - who knows? > If you've used a "regular" horse trailer with > dividers and an open stock > trailer, what do you do differently when using the > stock trailer? We drove more 'defensively' with the stock trailer - realizing that the 'load' is more apt to shift in an emergency/unexpected maneuver. Be SURE you have a tow vehicle that's big enough, powerful enough, and properly equipped to handle that stock trailer!!! You DO NOT want the 'tail wagging the dog'!! Our tow vehicle for the stock trailer had duals in the rear because we also had a camper on the truck. We hauled the same trailer with a 'regular' truck(no duals) and no camper, which was also fine. Try to balance that load - and please use 'leveller bars' on a good sturdy properly installed hitch. Hope this helps. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com
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This message is from: "truman matz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yes. Juniper would agree with you. I bought the horse and she was a > wonderful loader. > Pamela ==The mare who had the trailer incident will easily load into anything. She's been an extremely easy horse to work with ever since my friend got her, and I can see how great she is just by the little time I've dealt with her here. I guess all that is just one more reason I question the whole situation. Judy
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This message is from: "truman matz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> how > were the horses standing in the trailer? Slant load? Straight load? Stock > trailer? Slant load, except for mare and foal who had the end of the trailer as a box. She unloaded just fine and was 100% after she got to roll. =To the best of my knowledge, this old mare has been on her feet ever since the incident. Think about the last time you took a Greyhound Bus anywhere. ===Been there, done that, and hope to never do it again!! ===I wish all of you a belated wish for Christmas blessings and a wonderful New Year. Judy > > Peaceful Holidays to All. > Pamela Garofalo
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This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > DeeAnna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay, for those of you with stock-type trailers, I'm curious. > > Do you tie your horses? If so, how? Facing forward, sideways, or > backwards? With a regular tie rope or an elastic type tie? How do you > minimize the potential for horses slipping and falling on curves or > hills or during an emergency stop? I have a 2-horse slant-stock trailer. When I'm hauling our 2 Fjord geldings, I load them facing slant-rear, with the divider between them. I tie them with "trailer ties" that I've custom-made to be the lengths that I need. The tie points are about 3' off the floor, and the tie lengths are such that the animals can just touch their noses to the floor. This gives them enough freedom to raise and lower their heads as needed, to balance against trailer motion. (It also gave the rear horse a little too much freedom to turn this way and that, bugging the front horse, so I added a second tie, back to the butt-chain loop, i.e. the rear horse is essentially in loose crossties.) My husband's gelding was a "poor hauler" in a standard straight-load (front-face) trailer. Going to slant-rear has greatly improved his trailering behavior, and lowered his stress levels. When I haul just the donkey, I give her the entire trailer, but tie her to the midpoint of the long side (same longish trailer tie; it's needed because she has been known to seek out and destroy wiring). She's short-coupled enough that she can stand any way that she pleases---seems to prefer either slant-rear or sideways. The studies I've read indicate that equines haul better when given at least some freedom to move around. They frequently orient themselves facing the rear of the trailer, which puts them in a better position to resist stopping forces (including the mini-stops that happen with each shift of the transmission). Freedom to move the head is important, as a horse can absorb a lot of turning and braking forces by swinging the head/neck as a counterweight. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay, for those of you with stock-type trailers, I'm curious. Do you tie your horses? If so, how? Facing forward, sideways, or backwards? With a regular tie rope or an elastic type tie? How do you minimize the potential for horses slipping and falling on curves or hills or during an emergency stop? If you've used a "regular" horse trailer with dividers and an open stock trailer, what do you do differently when using the stock trailer? Inquiring minds want to know and all that DeeAnna
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/23/01 11:34:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > My other mare likes to go diagonal facing the rear. I think forced > confinement causes lots of problems. Think about the last time you took a > Greyhound Bus anywhere. > Yes. Juniper would agree with you. I bought the horse and she was a wonderful loader. Then I bought my trailer. A straight load 2-horse. After one trip with me, she refused to get in! Well! It took a half hour of coaxing whenever I wanted to load her up. Asked my trainer about it, she had me move the divider over, so at the front, it is still dividing the middle, but at the back, it is hooked up to the right side of the trailer, making the trailer effectively a one horse slant load. After ONE trip with the divider this way, she is back to being a great loader again. Just point her nose into the trailer and in she goes! :) Smart horse. She tells me what she wants and needs, if I only listen! Pamela
Hauling
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've been following the thread ot trailering terrors. My question is how were the horses standing in the trailer? Slant load? Straight load? Stock trailer? I use a stock trailer and my horses brace themselves every which way to ease fatigue. The longest I have driven without a break for the horse was about 12 hours. That particular mare likes to rest one hip against the center gate. She unloaded just fine and was 100% after she got to roll. My other mare likes to go diagonal facing the rear. I think forced confinement causes lots of problems. Think about the last time you took a Greyhound Bus anywhere. Peaceful Holidays to All. Pamela Garofalo
Re: hauling fjords
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, list. I must second the vote of confidence for Bill Roberts, who has hauled for us as well. He is a really nice person, very reliable, and a good horseman too. Would recommend him highly. We have hauled horses long distance for many years, with mixed results. (We're talking Thoroughbreds here, not fjords). I always have the vet tube each one with mineral oil for the trip, if it'll be more than about 6 hours, to head off any impaction problems - this seems to be especially important during hot weather, when the stress of traveling combines with the heat of the day, and usually decreased water intake, to create a real problem for many horses. Mineral oil is not foolproof, of course, but does help keep things moving. Again, make sure your hauler will water the horses often - some of the commercial haulers are trying to make good time and tend to "forget" small details like the comfort of the horse! Good luck! Jan
Re: Show injury : ( hauling Fjords !
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! Greetings from warm, overcast, June " GLOOM " kind of So. Calif day. We showed the Fjords this weekend, and had fun, dispite Kaisers sudden slight lameness, during his Ride and Drive class.looks like he may have popped a splint. He is doing fine this evening, and will be laid off any work for awhile, till hes going sound again, and with our vets blessing. Looks like Jeff will be taking a single Fjord to the Calif. Classic event, as Kaiser will not be fit to continue the miles of training, trying to get ready for this wonderful 3 day event. Its held on one of the hottest days of the year, in So. Calif. and takes place over a X-country course set into a golf course/country clubbetter to win the best conditioned award, than the competition, we feel. The pair will wait. The Classic is in early Aug. more to follow at a later time. I could not improve much on Karens post regarding trailering long distances, except to say that my Fjords who came from Minnesota, did so with the group of them, hauling without episode during their week long trip. This was a weanling stud colt, a 2 yr. old filly, a 3 yr old gelding, and a bred mare with a 5 week foal at her side. The professional hauler from " Trails West " did a great job, discounted for multiple horses to the same location, and had his wife call me each evening to keep us informed of how they were doing. She told us that he would like to haul Fjords FULL TIME, as each night, they quietly unloaded into unfamiliar fairgrounds, ate a bite of hay, drank some water, and went to sleep. They hopped into the trailer the next morning, got themselves into their same positions, and hauled off again. He couldnt believe it. Im not sure what he was used to having in that huge trailer, but it wasnt as good, from then on.. We did not make Libby last year, but did in '97, and hauled 1580 miles one way from here to do so. After checking with several professional haulers, we decided for the most part to leave my mare in the trailer..as the most common injurys result from loading and unloading, along with whatever can happen at rest stops along the way. We stopped and let her rest every 3-4 hours, and did take her out for some light lunging mid-way during the day. She ate, drank and pooped like a champ, although was very tired with our trip, as we only allowed 2 full travel days to Libby. Will not do that again, and intend on taking 3 days to get there this year. I do advise to pad your horses legs well, and put a fly mask on if hauling with shavings or even want to protect against dust or whatever from flying into the eyes. She did much better WITH the partition to lean on, and was not having to balence by herself the whole way. Take a trailer ride for yourself, and you will see ! BTW, we did stable her each night along the way in overnight equine facilitys, and was impressed with all of them. This year we intend on taking a diff. route up through Or. into Wa. and over. It skips that endless hot desert drive, remember passing through Baker, midway from Los Vegas, it was 115 degrees at 1 AM. Not fun for man or beast for sure. Hope some of this helps, hauling horses can be very stressful, but the benifits of going to these Fjord gatherings, open driving stuff, and local pleasure events, outweighs the risk for us. 20 years of horse owning and hauling for me, all without any injury or illness. I want to thank all the folks who weekly show up on Sun. night for Fjord chat at PetsandVets. In the last 2 Sundays we had : Sarah Mandy Catherine Laurie Jon Mary Michele Jessica Cathy Jean Bernie Heith Margaret Cbene Angel Ridinon Melenda Lisa ( Pets owner ) PAV Aussie and meLisa PAV FJORDS That, along with a few from this week, who I didnt jot down, came in, talked Fjords for an hour or so, and left with a few more pieces of information, a few more BAD jokes, and some new friends. Come in and join us anytime.Take care everyone.drive a little fast, and wear your helmets !Lisa Pedersen
Hauling to Blue Earth
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] When we haul Tank from Omaha to Blue Earth, we just get up as early as possible and leave. It is about a 5-1/2 hour drive and we usually get there about 1 or 2pm. We try to come back on the same schedule. It takes advantage of the cool of the day as much as possible. We don't stop much unless we can park in some shade and open the door to get as much breeze as possible. Tank seems to travel pretty well this way. We load everything up the night before so that all we have to do is persuade him to load and then we take off. Cynthia Madden, Coordinator Office of Sponsored Programs & Research University of Nebraska at Omaha EAB 202, 6001 Dodge Street, Omaha, NE 68182-0210 Phone: (402) 554-2286 FAX: (402) 554-3698 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
