manes and fallen crests
This message is from: "Debby Stai" My pony was half shetland, and had a thick upper crest and a thick mane that got very heavy when it was allowed to get long. I'd never seen a "broken" crest before. I wouldn't want to see it happen to any of my fjords, not anyone elses fjords or any breed for that matter. I was giving some information, what had happened to my little guy. His mane only fell on one side, I have seen horses, even fjords, when manes get thick, they fall on both sides of the neck. I'd think it not be an issue, weight distribution. I've had other breeds, all of mine had manes that fell on the "right" side except for one, a quarterhorse, who's fell on the left side. We were told they should fall on the right side, one can use the mane to help pull themselves up on their horse, never should pull on the saddle, and pulling oneself up with the mane on the left side seems to be more difficult. Of course, with those clipped manes of the fjords, one hasn't mane to grab. I did leave a grab strap of mane at the withers one time, just didn't look right. I am short, I used a large step up block, no pulling. All of the fjords I've had and the one I still have, all have thick manes. Wish sometimes they weren't so thick but its what makes them beautiful when their manes are kept clean and taken care of, their tails too. I still have my Herbies and Langs tails, just haven't had the desire to send them off to make bracelets or whatever. I'm on a driving list and someone mentioned they'd sent theirs off to someone and never got their bracelets, couldn't contact or get return calls from the person that was to have done the bracelets. Can't recall the name. So that is a worry. Debby Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
growing manes on fjords
This message is from: "Debby Stai" I just think it makes them look so shaggy and unkept. The trainer where Ynde is, keeps Yndes quite short, as she shows Andalusian mares, in hand, and theirs are kept short too. She does a great job with Yndes. And who doesn't like to show off that wonderful powerful neck. And one can even trim the mane to make the neck look longer, or thinner in places it might look to thick. Now the forelock, and the tail, all for letting them get long and thick. The trainer tells me Yndes is long and thick, which of course I knew. But she washes mostly around the tailbone, the roots and the ends where it needs it, but the brushing takes a long time. I use to keep it braided but she feels they need that long thick tail loose to swat at the flies, whereas I feel if they use their tail to swat at flies, they break the ends of the tail hairs and end up with thinner tails. But she is like me, she fly sprays and she has an indoor fly system, so Ynde doesn't really have to swat much. Debby Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
fjord manes
This message is from: "Debby" I just did my Langs mane. Love it! Standing tall and the white is white. I just think how wonderful to show off such a beautiful neck. When we have had other breeds, we've always kept short manes, probably because we've always ridden english, but I just LOVE a beautiful neck. I do have a small pony who'd always had the thick topline, and I always kept his mane short, driven dressage...but several years ago, when I'd had to board him while we were looking for property, I ended up having to keep him at a place where he had pipe fencing over a roof for a stall, and when the wind was blowing and raining, I felt it better to let it grow and keep him warm. MISTAKE. The ligaments gave out and the muscle fell over. Once that happens, thats it. I'd first tried braiding it over the other side, even attaching some weights. Didn't work. Then just ended up cutting the mane, so it would stop pulling on the muscle and do more damage. You can physically push it upright, but it can't stand up on its own. Bummer. Debby in Tx Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Fjord Manes
This message is from: Jane Brackett Hi Sue, Both my Fjords have long manes. Osa's is thinner and falls very nicely. I have kept it long for the most part for 10 years now. On two occasions I trimmed it again in the traditional manner and it stood up just fine after a few days. No neck rolling. Geilo has a much thicker mane, enough for at least 4 horses! I kept his trimmed for years thinking that it would never grow out and fall nicely. Then about 5 years ago, it was just too cold one day that I went out to trim and he was fidgeting more than ever (he hates to be groomed, weird horse), so I just gave up. For several months he looked like he'd stuck his nose in the light socket, complete wild man hair. But now it's gorgeous, long, thick and no neck rolling. So, my advice, if you don't show, let it grow. Extra warm in winter, lots more fly swatting ability in the summer, and I think it looks great. Jane, Maine where we are about to loose all our pretty leaves and hunter orange coats are coming out of the closet. Always afraid some over excited hunter will think those pretty yellow ponies are deer. On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Sue Harrison wrote: This message is from: "Sue Harrison" Hi...I probably have a dumb question, but here goes.I am thinking of letting my Fjord geldings mane grow out and Randy (hubby) is telling me that his neck might roll with the weight of all that extra hair Is this possible? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fjord Manes
This message is from: "Sue Harrison" Hi...I probably have a dumb question, but here goes.I am thinking of letting my Fjord geldings mane grow out and Randy (hubby) is telling me that his neck might roll with the weight of all that extra hair Is this possible? Do any of you let their manes grow? I would love to see pictures if you do. Sue in N.B. ( Storm and Peppin's mom) Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
doing manes
This message is from: "Debby" I find that when I wet their hair with a mane and tail spray, love the rosewater one...then it stands up better and the scissors cut much better. And I do it in layers. And do you find that you have to do one side about 2/3rds up and then change to the other side to finish that side, as they hair at the top, by the poll, tends to grow forward and wants to lay down, so me being right handed, the left top is the hardest as is the right bottom, close to the withers. It would work if husband and I both did one, as he's a leftie...but then we never cut them the same. He tends to cut a straight line...I like to cut with it lower at the withers and taller towards the poll, giving my guy a look of a longer topline.. I just keep spraying and cutting, till its done. It is tiring though, but they look so nice, especially this time of the year. Do the tails at the same time, bang them, if you let them get too long, they'll step on them when they back up, and they'll lose their thickness. Debby in Tx Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: trimming shears for manes
This message is from: "Kristie Strange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'm a terrible mane trimmer, so I'm bad about letting Izzy's get long. She looks like Sid Vicious! :D -KRistie Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: trimming shears for manes
This message is from: Debbie Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all, I use Fiskars and they work great. I don't have much luck with clippers. I just trimmed by boys mane today. It is shocking how fast it grows! I try to trim at least every 2 weeks so it doesn't get too long. The key is to wet it down real well with a spray bottle. --- On Fri, 11/28/08, Carol Trujillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Carol Trujillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: trimming shears for manes > To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 11:20 PM > This message is from: "Carol Trujillo" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I use tin snips (from Home Depot) for the first cut, then > fine tune with > curved scissors. The tin snips are a bit heavy to hold for > long periods but > sure do a better cutting job than scissors. > > Carol in California > > Important FjordHorse List Links: > Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e > FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
trimming shears for manes
This message is from: "Carol Trujillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I use tin snips (from Home Depot) for the first cut, then fine tune with curved scissors. The tin snips are a bit heavy to hold for long periods but sure do a better cutting job than scissors. Carol in California Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: Fjord manes are DANGEROUS
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lisa - Try to have a good 17th of May even thought you are one handed for a while. Two words... cordless clippers... :-) Hugs! Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - "The Horse Garden" & Hundehaven - "The Dog Heaven" www.hestehaven.com / [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-541-825-3027 Southern Oregon The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Fjord manes are DANGEROUS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List. Ok, tonight was interesting to say the least, so I thought that I might as well warn others or give a good laugh anyway. After having a very nice day and taking a good friend to her Birthday lunch, I returned home and thought that I might worm a few horses. Yesterday my friend Sarah and I did 14. So8 to go, no biggie. Gave a short round pen lesson to my turning 2 yr old colt, hes a real sweetie and loves to " get it right " for me, so kept it short leaving him out there to cool off and enjoy a good roll. Went to the young filly's pasture and brought up Solveig. She walked into her halter, left her buddy, went through the gate nicely and came up into the barn, where I tied her up to Fjreda's stall. I have been doing some winterizing everyone with the warm weather finally here, and pulling off tons of coats, cutting off goat hairs and doing MANES.so. Got the wormer ready for both of the fillys and grabbed a sizzors and curry. I started brushing at her head and worked my way down her chest. front leg, topline to her belly and started moving down her rump, which is about the last NORMAL moment I had for awhile. I swear that I do not know really what happend next, only that it happend fast. Pretty un-dramatic to be honest, only that either she either kicked out ( ??? ) or somehow Fjreda and her spooked each other playing kissy face through the barn stall or ?? but I got knocked back rather hard. The curry hit the ground, but Solveig didnt look spooked or guilty, and I remained on my feet, and as quickly as it started it was over, except The sizzors. ( this is the sort of funny part ) They were still closed but stuck in my arm. You know the ( tender ) fleshy part underneigh about 1/2 way between your wrist and elbow ? Of course I just kept looking at the sizzors and thinking " hummm, wonder if this is going to be bad ? " Maybe a total of 3 long seconds. Then, the sizzors fell out of my arm and onto the barn floor ( this is the not so funny part ) and the blood started. Nothing happend for another 10 seconds ( time it took for my brain to comprehend it all ) and I had thoughts like, " CRAP " < not really the word that come to mind, and " ok, its bad enough " and " oh yea, Im home alone, CRAP " All the while I was sort of chuckleing in a weird way because it WAS sort of funny, right ? I mean, even Steven King in THE SHINING, or Spielburg with " JAWS " never came up with a sizzors stuck in an arm, right ? Like...what kind of a dork has sizzors AND a curryand all the while Im dripping a rather impressive red puddle onto my cement barn floor. Soo, with one hand ( of COURSE I had to stick my left arm, and Im really, really left handed ) I untied Solveig and led her back out to her pasture, where she again was a good girl and nicely went into her area with her buddy Snow Flyer, and I noticed that there were now bloody fingerprints on the gate latch 'cause I had to use my left hand to open it. Sort of gross, but looking at bloody fingerprints made me a little woozy, which is not good because Im normally a little woozy even without sticking a sizzors in my arm. I walked back through the barn, now leaving a trail for the bloodhounds, and went up to my house, realizing that Sarah, my friend who lives across the road and is a vet tech. ( good with ick and stuff ) was also not home. I was determined not to have to go to my one idiot neighbor for a ride to the ER, in fact Im pretty sure I would rather bleed to death than have to ask him ANYTHING that important. So, I got my arm into the sink and tried to wash off the blood, now flowing down to my elbow, and the motion of bending my arm all the way made it start to have a tiny, narrow, but again rather impressive SPURT. Still no pain, just feeling a little sick with realizing that I wasnt going to fix this with SUPER GLUE, and I did need some help. W ! No pain, just a small sting. I still thought " HECK, Im a Nurse, no problem " where the #$%^&*((*& ( CRAP didnt cut it anymore ) was a towel that I didnt want to ruin, where was my cell phone, where were some first aid things, duh ? Cody was at work, cooking at CHILI's and didnt answer his cell phoneeither did Sarah. Jeff is on duty in CA. and I never DID reach him tonight, maybe he will read it here first, HA ! So, Im pretty much standing with my arm in the sink, and I called CHILI's TO GO # which I had written down in my phone book. I was on hold for 5 min. with some really sucky music then I got the TO GO guy and told him to pull Cody off the grill and have him come home, but not fast. My EMT son ( yes, Im a proud mom ) got a semi-sterile 4X4 pack and found some VET WRAP in my Search and Rescue
Re: bit seats, teeth, manes
This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My negative response to the bit seat question was probably too harsh, and I'm sorry. I don't think of minor filing of a point as a bit seat, although I suppose it technically is, I think of this as good dental care for comfort and long term health. The kind of bit seat that makes me a bit nutty are the kind that remove most of teeth to make a place for a bit. I didn't mean to insinuate that anyone using the former was unkind or used rough hands. :-) One of our Fjords, Nils, had an odd and interesting thing happening in his mouth in '07 that I hadn't seen in any horse before. His front most lower molars were tipping forward - actually rotating in the way they grew from vertical to tilting at a 45º angle forwards. I had vets out to mildly file them round two times as they continued to change, and now they seem to be holding still. At age 18 it was an interesting change. He is a really stoic fellow, but his discomfort was apparent overnight from one day to the next, and the area was inflamed. He had some days off from work (he is a school horse), a little bute to make him comfy, and I continue to keep an eagle eye on both his mouth and the hands at the other end of the reins to be sure he is always comfy. I roached Nils' mane all the way down yesterday - it was getting so long and is so darn thick and wide that I couldn't keep it tidy any more without lopping it off. I felt funny taking it down so far, but it'll grow back, and be so handsome once again in the Spring! His half sister, Lite Jenta, aka Buttermilk Biscuit, is living the wild horse life with her little band of two ponies and a weanling (warmblood - she's almost as tall as the fjord, and taller than the ponies!). Biscuit's mane is lying all the way down and looks gorgeous and zany-wild. I need to roach it too so she is elegant and ready for work with students next month, but it has been really fun to see it grow out and be wild. (And it's sure been one less thing for me to keep up with!) I don't know why I suddenly feel like Spring really will happen - it's colder than usual, we've had oodles of rain and frozen temps this winter, etc., etc. Maybe it's just that I can feed at 5:00 without a headlamp on? Maybe it's that I feel bad if I haven't fed by 8:00 because it's been light so much longer by then? I think it's everything, plus just looking at a brighter light at the end of the Winter tunnel, I guess. It seems like weather everywhere has been so extreme of late, I hope everyone is doing ok. Emily The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Tools for Trimming Manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use the big spring-opening Fiskars shears with cushioned handles for the coarse cutting, a smaller sewing scissors for fine trimming, and a Wahl Arco SE cordless trimmer for the bridle path and a little touch up here and there. I can see why some use clippers to trim the mane, but I prefer the shears. They can quickly remove large amounts of hair with less risk of a serious miscut. Shears also produce fewer of those stubby hair bits that get into everything, including down my neck. And shears are quieter than any clipper, even my very quiet Arco clippers. I like my peace and quiet. DeeAnna The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Tools for Trimming Manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks to all for the great advice on mane trimming! I'm sure both my hand and Molson will be grateful...especially if this makes the job quicker. I actually did resort to electric clippers last time, but I just don't have the finesse to do a good job with them yet. Cindy -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I'm looking for recommendations on scissors or other tools for trimming a > thick > Fjord mane. I have been using some really nice, sharp scissors intended for > human hair, and they do work great. But they are small and have thin metal > handles, and my hand is almost paralyzed by the time I finish the job! Surely > there must be a source for some sharp, padded scissors or shears out there, > but > I haven't been able to find it. > > Any assistance/recommendations would be much appreciated. > > Cindy > Kalamazoo, MI > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Tools for Trimming Manes
This message is from: wendee berman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Try a sewing or dressmaking supply website or store. You want shears rather than scissors because they are heavier. I got mine at Joanne's in the upholstery section. Don't remember the brand but they can be used for cutting heavy duty upholstery materials like tapestry and damask. then you'll want to keep your lighter weight scissors to make tiny little corrections. I like the idea of cutting when the mane is wet. Definitely going to try that. After all, beauticians always wet or dampen hair before cutting it. (Don't know about barbers.) Wendee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm looking for recommendations on scissors or other tools for trimming a thick Fjord mane. I have been using some really nice, sharp scissors intended for human hair, and they do work great. But they are small and have thin metal handles, and my hand is almost paralyzed by the time I finish the job! Surely there must be a source for some sharp, padded scissors or shears out there, but I haven't been able to find it. Any assistance/recommendations would be much appreciated. Cindy Kalamazoo, MI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Scissors for Fjord Manes
This message is from: "June Wheeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Cindy - This same list clued me into the best scissors I've ever used for trimming - got them at Lowe's in the wallpaper/interiors section. I don't have the name handy but they have sturdy purple plastic handle grips and are a whopping 11" long, and sharp! I just wet my Bjorn's mane and the cutting is so much easier. As they are so easy to use, I tend to keep after his mane more frequently and he looks really good for months. Hope this helps - anyone out there remember the brand name of those scissors? June Mendoza Wheeler, St. Paul, MN * Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:50:41 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tools for Trimming Manes This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm looking for recommendations on scissors or other tools for trimming a thick Fjord mane. I have been using some really nice, sharp scissors intended for human hair, and they do work great. But they are small and have thin metal handles, and my hand is almost paralyzed by the time I finish the job! Surely there must be a source for some sharp, padded scissors or shears out there, but I haven't been able to find it. Any assistance/recommendations would be much appreciated. Cindy Kalamazoo, MI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Tools for Trimming Manes
This message is from: "fjords" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I use Wiss stainless steel scissors and they work great! My husband gave them to me and he can't remember where he got them. They work great on all manes, stay sharp a long time and can be re-sharpened, too. I just "Googled" and here is a link showing the ones I have. http://cutlerymania.com/scissors/ProductInformation.asp?ProductID=583 I really think the key to using scissors and getting a great cut is making sure the mane is wet when you cut it. If you cut the mane when it is dry you don't get the nice smooth outline that you do when it's wet. Gotta love these Fjord manes! :-) Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Tools for Trimming Manes
This message is from: Emily Wigley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would also be interested in hearing about a good scissors (shears) supplier. I'd actually like some great shears for banging tails. I just came into the house for a break after trimming Buttermilk Biscuit's mane. It is thick, and a different challenge than her half brother's, Nils', mane to do. His is thicker but her's is coarser. Today I used my cordless clippers and it does a great job. The last time I did Nils' mane I used my really big body clippers to take it down to length, and I'll be touching it up with the little clippers. I do my two in the stepped style - black higher and square, white a step down. I can not imagine using shears for the manes, but I'm quite comfy with clippers after years of doing body clips on other breeds (and last year a trace clip on Biscuit -- ooh she looked cute), and hair cuts for our son and my hubby. Emily The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Tools for Trimming Manes
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Cindy, Try the serrated Fiskars. They last long and work well. You might have to look in a place like Home Depot - that's where I got mine. Good luck, Peg Knutsen www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord/ - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: Tools for Trimming Manes This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm looking for recommendations on scissors or other tools for trimming a thick Fjord mane. I have been using some really nice, sharp scissors intended for human hair, and they do work great. But they are small and have thin metal handles, and my hand is almost paralyzed by the time I finish the job! Surely there must be a source for some sharp, padded scissors or shears out there, but I haven't been able to find it. Any assistance/recommendations would be much appreciated. Cindy Kalamazoo, MI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Tools for Trimming Manes
This message is from: Eric Kozowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I'm looking for recommendations on scissors or other tools for trimming a > thick Fjord mane. I have been using some really nice, sharp scissors > intended for human hair, and they do work great. But they are small and have > thin metal handles, and my hand is almost paralyzed by the time I finish the > job! Surely there must be a source for some sharp, padded scissors or shears > out there, but I haven't been able to find it. > > Any assistance/recommendations would be much appreciated. > I use electric clippers. -- Eric Kozowski The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Tools for Trimming Manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm looking for recommendations on scissors or other tools for trimming a thick Fjord mane. I have been using some really nice, sharp scissors intended for human hair, and they do work great. But they are small and have thin metal handles, and my hand is almost paralyzed by the time I finish the job! Surely there must be a source for some sharp, padded scissors or shears out there, but I haven't been able to find it. Any assistance/recommendations would be much appreciated. Cindy Kalamazoo, MI The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
RE: Manes & Tails & their care
This message is from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My Fjord Amie's tail brushes out really nice. I use a pin brush like mine. Don't use Cowboy Magic Detangler on any Yorkies! Mine turned into a fluffball with more tangles than when I started. I normally use Mane & Tail detangler on her but mine was in travel trailer and froze. Gotta get more for the dog. Fjord tail doing fine. Cheryl Knee Athol ID > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com> Subject: Re: Manes & Tails & their care> Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 11:30:33 -0700> > This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > I use Cowboy "detangler", hope that is what it is called. Just squeezing it > down the length of the tail and it requires little to free it up to comb. > Makes your hands quite slick also. Jean Gayle> > > > > > > Author of:> 'The Colonel's Daughter"> Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949> Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press> 7403 Blaine Rd> Aberdeen, WA 98520 > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at:> http://tinyurl.com/rcepw> > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Manes & Tails & their care
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I use Cowboy "detangler", hope that is what it is called. Just squeezing it down the length of the tail and it requires little to free it up to comb. Makes your hands quite slick also. Jean Gayle Author of: 'The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949 Send: $20 to Three Horse's Press 7403 Blaine Rd Aberdeen, WA 98520 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Manes & Tails & their care
This message is from: Robin Churchill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I like to keep the tails untangled but never use a brush, I hand pick them or gently use a wide-tooth comb after spraying with Lazer sheen or putting some other detangler on them starting at the bottom and working my way up. I try to keep them reasonably clean and put a lot of conditioner on after washing. I don't comb/pick them every day because I just don't have time. I know that some people think that it makes them lose more hair if you fool with them. They do lose a lot if nothing has been done with them for a while then you comb them but I think those were going to fall out any way. If you are gentle and untangle regularly, you don't lose many hairs. I think if you start tearing at them with a brush then a lot of hair breaks/pulls out. Just my preference. Robin in Florida --- fjords <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "fjords" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > What are your preferences and why? > > > > What are your favorite shampoos/conditioners, etc.? > > > > Taffy Mercer > > Kennewick, WA > > The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: > http://tinyurl.com/rcepw > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Manes & Tails & their care
This message is from: "fjords" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There seem to be two main schools of thought on mane & tail care - brush regularly and brush as little as possible. What are your preferences and why? What are your favorite shampoos/conditioners, etc.? Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Trimming manes
This message is from: "Green Valley Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:17:19 -0600 From: "Jeanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Mane trimming and styling, mistakes and more Jeanne- Thanks for the kind words. I really do enjoy trimming manes. I usually try to trim manes after the horses are worked or have eaten because they are happy to stand still. It's not as easy if they know their buddies are all going out to play. I use a Fiskars soft touch scissors. To get the shape I first comb through the mane with a long tooth comb; then cut a swatch at the withers and behind the bridle path leaving it about 1 to1-1/2 inches tall; step back and look where you think the highest point should be (someplace above the point of the shoulder) ; cut a swatch that in 3 to 4 inches tall. I would then make another swatch half way between the center and the front and another half way between the center and the back. Connect your swatches making a nice arch.Some manes are so easy and others with curls and cowlicks can be more challenging. If you want two levels, cut as above and then go back and trim each side of the white about 1/2 inch. If you want to see pictures, check out our website www.greenvalleyfarm.com or www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ and type fiedler in the owner box. This message is from: "Jeanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Main Trimming: In my opinion, Sophie Fiedler, Green Valley Farm, has the 'market cornered' on the technique. If you've ever had the opportunity to visit GVF, every horse on their place has a perfectly trimmed mane ALL THE TIME. Even her youngsters (and I mean babies!) mane's are always perfect. I've seen her trim, and I believe (correct me if I'm wrong, Sophie!) all she uses is scissors. The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
trimming manes
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have always used Fiskar scissors for trimming manes. Getting a Fiskar sharpener in Norway helped, but Dan Watanabe turned me on to the serrated Fiscars. I got mine at Home Depot. Their advantage is that they grip, so I don't have to slide the scissors backwards with each cut as I do with the non-serrated blades. Some prefer to do a wet mane - I like to do it dry, and it's rare that I don't do a next-day touchup. I find the task soothing. Usually. Of course, I'm not doing 8 Fjords anymore, just His Majesty, who often falls asleep while being trimmed. Ho hum. Apparently, my singing lulls him to sleep or else he's trying his best to ignore it - either way, it sure makes trimming easier. I don't roach, even though Erlend's mane is thick, partly because I want to have him looking as presentable as possible for visitors. Hair grows faster in the Spring, so this means I need to trim almost every two weeks. On another topic, thinking of Dan reminds me that he has threatened to write his own Herald article about our "challenging" trip to Winona, from his perspective. Something about what it's like to transport this particular elderly lady across the country and back Thankfully, he hasn't. So far. Peg Peg Knutsen www.horsehumor.net www.fairpoint.net/~kffjord/ The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: Many long manes...many thanks!
This message is from: "Lois Berenyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ha ha ha. That's what I get for doing quick math in my head. She's 14.1 so that would be, according to my calculator, 57 inches off the ground. But, sometimes that feels like 16.1 hands anyway when the hips are stiff and the mounting block is "too short". Lois - Original Message - From: "Jean Ernest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:49 PM Subject: Re: Many long manes...many thanks! This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 65 inches off the ground? My Goodness, how tall IS she? That would at least 16-1 Hands! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly sunny and 15 degrees. At 12:06 PM 10/26/2005 -0400, you wrote: I think it's because she's half the size of the others and is "just different" but there is quite a curiousity about her and most long-time horse owners there have never seen a Fjord in the flesh. Most of the riders are older women and some have looked quite enviously at her wide back that is only 65 inches off the ground.
Re: Many long manes...many thanks!
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 65 inches off the ground? My Goodness, how tall IS she? That would at least 16-1 Hands! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, partly sunny and 15 degrees. At 12:06 PM 10/26/2005 -0400, you wrote: >I think it's because she's half the size of the others and is "just different" >but there is quite a curiousity about her and most long-time horse owners >there have never seen a Fjord in the flesh. Most of the riders are older >women and some have looked quite enviously at her wide back that is only 65 >inches off the ground.
Re: Many long manes...many thanks!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] When my Fjord's mane gets long she looks like an icelandic. Suzan -Original Message- From: Ruth Bushnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:09:02 -0600 Subject: Re: Many long manes...many thanks! This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This message is from: "Lois Berenyi" ... From my own perspective it appears that the white and yellow duns probably "wear" long hair better than dark .<> Of course some of the Fjords could have naturally thinner or thicker necks regardless of mane length but it's possible the length of the mane could > create an illusion one way or the otherLois GOOD POINT Lois... maybe weak necklines on FJ's could be camouflaged with long hair, buyer beware! Maybe the roached mane is an acquired preference, given time and enough exposure to Fjords? I don't recall that I once-upon-a-time even liked a roached mane! (BF--before Fjords) But now I get itchy scissor fingers if I see a long one, hah ...and, a Fjord is not a Fjord without that roached mane! I would imagine that an acceptably grown out mane would have largely to do with the WIDTH of the mane... some Fjords have much thinner manes, that might hang quite well, but many have EXTRA-EXTRA wide manes that are a bear to trim and I imagine they would look too full and unruly if they were long. This mane WIDTH thing might also have a lot to do with whether or not the mane pulls the neck muscles over when long ...as I have seen instances where a long mane can pull the dorsal pattern into undulation, quite visible when retrimmed. Another consideration in a long mane might be how it was regarded at show. The NFHR Judge's Rule Book states under conformation; "the mane is cut short and stands erect, trimmed in a crescent shape along the curve of the neck." and again under grooming presentation; "mane: upright, clipped even or with 1/4" to 1/2" of black stripe standing above the white crest. Ruthie, nw mt US ...where it's raining! sighhh.
Re: Many long manes...many thanks!
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This message is from: "Lois Berenyi" ... From my own perspective it appears that the white and yellow duns probably "wear" long hair better than dark .<> Of course some of the Fjords could have naturally thinner or thicker necks regardless of mane length but it's possible the length of the mane could create an illusion one way or the otherLois GOOD POINT Lois... maybe weak necklines on FJ's could be camouflaged with long hair, buyer beware! Maybe the roached mane is an acquired preference, given time and enough exposure to Fjords? I don't recall that I once-upon-a-time even liked a roached mane! (BF--before Fjords) But now I get itchy scissor fingers if I see a long one, hah ...and, a Fjord is not a Fjord without that roached mane! I would imagine that an acceptably grown out mane would have largely to do with the WIDTH of the mane... some Fjords have much thinner manes, that might hang quite well, but many have EXTRA-EXTRA wide manes that are a bear to trim and I imagine they would look too full and unruly if they were long. This mane WIDTH thing might also have a lot to do with whether or not the mane pulls the neck muscles over when long ...as I have seen instances where a long mane can pull the dorsal pattern into undulation, quite visible when retrimmed. Another consideration in a long mane might be how it was regarded at show. The NFHR Judge's Rule Book states under conformation; "the mane is cut short and stands erect, trimmed in a crescent shape along the curve of the neck." and again under grooming presentation; "mane: upright, clipped even or with 1/4" to 1/2" of black stripe standing above the white crest. Ruthie, nw mt US ...where it's raining! sighhh.
Many long manes...many thanks!
This message is from: "Lois Berenyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks to all of you who sent or posted photos of long manes in all their glory. My Fjord mare is boarded in a hunter/jumper/event barn where most of her stablemates are 17 hand warmbloods. It turns out she is the favorite and I think it's because she's half the size of the others and is "just different" but there is quite a curiousity about her and most long-time horse owners there have never seen a Fjord in the flesh. Most of the riders are older women and some have looked quite enviously at her wide back that is only 65 inches off the ground. I've printed out most of the photos and will put them up in the barn kitchen for comments. It should be interesting to hear what non-fjordies think. From my own perspective it appears that the white and yellow duns probably "wear" long hair better than the darker duns do. In some of the photos the longer mane made the neck appear thinner and longer whereas I think sometimes the arched cropped mane makes some Fjords look too thick through the neck. Of course some of the Fjords could have naturally thinner or thicker necks regardless of mane length but it's possible the length of the mane could create an illusion one way or the other. I wonder if long hair would make me look thinner or just "messy"?? Thanks again Lois in coastal NC where it's cool enough for the reptiles to go underground
Re: Fjords with long manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I personally prefer a cut mane, but if you haven't seen Guusje, check out this website: _http://www.xs4all.nl/~dirkadel/guusjesfanclub/menueng.html_ (http://www.xs4all.nl/~dirkadel/guusjesfanclub/menueng.html) He has that real fairy tale look, and he is a Red Dun so the stripe is much more subtle (his mane seems to be thinner and finer too...). Jamie In the Mountains SW of Denver, CO
Long manes and Driving
This message is from: "Pasqual, Patricia A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I did let Elph's mane grow long just one time. It fell over beautifully, I thought he looked pretty cute. I did do one show that way, but felt like I had better be winning some ribbons before I buck that tradition again. It didn't do any harm (like "fall over permanently" as I had been warned by some) - when I went back to "tradition" I hogged the mane, and it grew back very quickly and is now properly roached. In fact, I am getting to be quite the expert and it has never looked so good. This w/e I think I'm going to try a fancy design with the clippers in a deep "V" shape, just for fun. We had a lovely driving w/e, the party for the 36 year old saddlebred was very fun, beautiful sunny cool day, and the carriage rides were a big hit with the kids. Elph really got a good workout that day, must have gone around the hay field about 12 times! Tish and Elph in Minneapolis
Re: Fjords with long manes
This message is from: "Curtis Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In regards to long manes, generally, the Fjord's mane hair is too course to lay flat like the other breeds. That's why in most of the pictures you see long manes, the mane looks messy. This is not always the case. Here are a couple photos of Fjords with long manes: http://www.deepcreekfjords.com/long_manes.html. Rhonda Taylor can give you more information about Hannah (Tigger). On Tigger, it shows that the mane can lie flat, but only after many years. On Tigger, I like the way the guard (white) hairs from the opposite side highlight the mane on top of the neck. In Lara's case, the guard hairs on the opposite side stand straight up. I have seen many long mane Fjords with manes like Lara's. By the way, if you cut the long mane to normal length, it will take awhile for the entire mane to stand straight again. One way to fix this problem is to roach the mane all the way to the neck. I normally just cut the mane much shorter than normal, not worrying about the contour of the mane. For the next mane trim the Fjord gets I can contour the mane to the correct shape for a Fjord. This works for us. Take care! Curt and Marsha Mathias, WV -- Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 23:22:15 -0400 From: "Lois Berenyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fjords with long manes This message is from: "Lois Berenyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The fellow boarders at my barn are fascinated with my Fjord mare. For some reason they keep asking me what they look like with grown-out manes. I haven't seen too many photos myself and the ones I have seen have been of rather messy, unruly manes. If anyone has an interesting photo of a Fjord with a long mane I'd appreciate it if it were emailed to me. Personally I'd be interested in seeing a long mane that was groomed to lie flat and neat if such a thing is possible. Please email photos if you have them! Lois Berenyi in lovely, autumnal NC -- [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]
Fjords with long manes
This message is from: "Lois Berenyi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The fellow boarders at my barn are fascinated with my Fjord mare. For some reason they keep asking me what they look like with grown-out manes. I haven't seen too many photos myself and the ones I have seen have been of rather messy, unruly manes. If anyone has an interesting photo of a Fjord with a long mane I'd appreciate it if it were emailed to me. Personally I'd be interested in seeing a long mane that was groomed to lie flat and neat if such a thing is possible. Please email photos if you have them! Lois Berenyi in lovely, autumnal NC
Re: Foal manes
This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, Thanks! I just didn't know what the right way was. I know he is not registered but he is purebred and want him to represent fjords well. He gets a lot of exposure because we have a deli at the front of our property. A lot of people know what Fjords are now. Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose Corresponding Secretary FASTeam http://www.myturnabout.com
Re: Foal manes
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do what you want! If you can't bear to cut his curls yet, let it grow for awhile. I waited a long time before cutting BJorken's and saved a lock of his baby curls! LOL. Or Cut it if you wish..shape like the adults. It is your call! Jean in very smoky Fairbanks, Alaska, with record temps..80 today. >My colt is six weeks old. His mane is now standing up but the ends have curls >on them. If it gets much longer it will start to flop over. Should I trim >it? Shave it off? Leave it alone?
Foal manes
This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My colt is six weeks old. His mane is now standing up but the ends have curls on them. If it gets much longer it will start to flop over. Should I trim it? Shave it off? Leave it alone? Thanks, Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose Corresponding Secretary FASTeam http://www.myturnabout.com
Re: manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/3/05 2:45:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I've had several horses come to me with manes completely grown over - I > mean > totally like a normal horse's > wait a minute! i thought fjords WERE the normal horses :) laurie, who has a date with oz this weekend for his haircut
Re: Manes
This message is from: "Ruth Bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lisa re "she will not let me use the clippers". I trained my mare to clippers by letting her watch the gelding being clipped and then when I went to do her I ran the clippers (going) all over my face and arms. She watched and when I moved to do her she could have cared less. Jean G. ONE OF those horse 'gurus' on the RFD channel suggested using a hair dryer, to introduce them to the sound of clippers. Ruthie, nw mt US
Re: Manes
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lisa re "she will not let me use the clippers". I trained my mare to clippers by letting her watch the gelding being clipped and then when I went to do her I ran the clippers (going) all over my face and arms. She watched and when I moved to do her she could have cared less. Jean G. Author "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: manes, Blue Earth & Fiskars
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've had several horses come to me with manes completely grown over - I mean totally like a normal horse's - I have not roached any - I can't as they are not here long enough to have it grow back and look nice for buyers or the owners. It IS possible to save a mane without cutting it all off. Takes a few hours but it is doable. Glad to hear of all of you who DO use the Fiskars Brand of scissors! They sent me product and it appears at this time, we will give a pair of them along with trophies at the Blue Earth Show - ANOTHER reason to come to the Blue Earth Show! The scissors they sent me are all the new ones with titanium coating and they are even better than the old ones! Another sponsor I'm working with is Seneca Foods, they have the Green Giant Brand - what do you all think about getting a can of peas, green beans or corn ...just joking. I am putting the finishing touches on the show schedule, class discriptions and so forth right now, they will be handed out at the Winter Meeting in Winona on Feb 18 - if any of you want a tenative schedule to see what we're planning, and are not attending the MWFHC winter meeting -contact me with your full address and I'll send one off to you - Pat Holland
Re: Manes
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> hi Lisa, Yes cut it all off, most of us use scissors..Fiskars seem to be popular. In fact I hear Fiskars has sponserd a Fjord event or something! Anyway, when it is flopped over it works best to just cut if off, then let it grow in and shape it then. It won't stand up once it is flopped over. Their manes ARE coarser Than other breeds, and it would be oily I think if it has been long for awhile. She does look and sound like she is a purebred! Have fun! Jean in Fairbanks, ALaska, -35F this monring..Waiting for spring! > I just cut Fjiona's mane with scissors. . Anyway >the mane is three inches long and flopped over. Do I wait and let it stand up >or do I clip it off and let it grown in? Also I noticed that her mane is >courser than my other horses and somewhat oily. Is that normal for this >breed? >Lisa Wiley
Re: Manes
This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marsha, I have cordless clippers so I just figured I would take them out with me daily when I am clicker training her. Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ http://www.geocities.com/summerct/horses.html http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: Manes
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lisa - Harrison does not do clippers either. I got a pair of the spring loaded scissors from Office Depot (I think Fiskars makes them) and roached his mane by hand with scissors. Of course he has done this before so stood very still, but it sounds like your mare might stand still also. It really didn't take all that long at all. Tamara Fallbrook Ca ' On Tuesday, February 1, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Lisa Wiley wrote: This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marsha, She would not let me use the clippers so I will try the mousse. I can get them near her head but she gets scared. I am going to work with them everyday to get her used to them. Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ http://www.geocities.com/summerct/horses.html http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: Manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/1/2005 11:48:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hint on mane trimming---wear something hairproof as your outer layer, like a grooming smock, or a nylon jacket. Do NOT wear a flannel shirt, sweatshirt, or loose-knit anything, as the short stubby pieces of hair will embed in the fabric and poke you all day! Been there *** OH YEAH! Nothing like a shirt full of Fjord mane hair. Ow! / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA _www.Brigid.Clickryder.com_ (http://www.brigid.clickryder.com/)
Re: Manes
This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karen, I understand freezing. It is in the upper twenties today and sunny and it feels wonderful after all the cold we have had. Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ http://www.geocities.com/summerct/horses.html http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: Manes
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > She would not let me use the clippers so I will try the mousse. I can get > them near her head but she gets scared. I am going to work with them > everyday to get her used to them. When I first got my old Nansy mare, I tried trimming her mane with clippers. She didn't care, but her mane was so thick (nearly 3" wide at her poll) and coarse, that I would dull 2 sets of blades on one trim! I soon learned how to do it with scissors---yes, even when she had rubbed her mane to shreds, and I essentially roached her to let it grow out. For the sake of training, do get your mare used to clippers. But for shortening her mane so it'll grow out right, scissors will do the job just fine. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: Manes
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Floppy overgrown mane woes? One answer: roach! And yes, this can be done just as easily w/ a nice pair of (Fiskars) scissors as w/ a set of clippers. Don't mess w/ trying to get the mane "back" in shape by a little trimming here & there. Just "cut" to the chase it get it ALL off; you will be surprised at just how fast and how nicely it grows in, and thenafter MUCH easier to manage w/ a trim whenever it gets 1/2" - 3'4" overgrown...you can see the line too. ...With 8 fjordies here to care for, I do not mess around anymore. winter = roaching time ;-)) Except dear Rosie (Jorunn, she is allowed to go au natural - it's just "her" look, and w/ as many nice babies shes produced, she can look her lovely, long black & white wavy-maned self foreverKmac, in the Icebox, aka N. Nevada, freezing fog + all.. Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegeesOriginal Message Follows From: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: Subject: Re: Manes Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:51:33 -0500 This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marsha, She would not let me use the clippers so I will try the mousse. I can get them near her head but she gets scared. I am going to work with them everyday to get her used to them. Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ http://www.geocities.com/summerct/horses.html http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: Manes
This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marsha, She would not let me use the clippers so I will try the mousse. I can get them near her head but she gets scared. I am going to work with them everyday to get her used to them. Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ http://www.geocities.com/summerct/horses.html http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: Manes
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just cut Fjiona's mane with scissors. It was very > long and probably has not been cut in a very long time. [...] > the mane is three inches long and flopped over. Do I wait and let it stand up > or do I clip it off and let it grown in? Also I noticed that her mane is > courser than my other horses and somewhat oily. Is that normal for this > breed? Sometimes, a flopped-over mane will straighten on its own, or with a little help from some hair mousse. Most folks here have reported best results roaching it down to nothing, and letting it regrow. Now is a good time of year to do that. Fjords generally have coarser mane hair than most light-horse breeds---which is what makes it stand up so nicely! Even within the Fjord breed, mane texture varies. My old Nansy mare had a very coarse and oily mane; my husband's gelding, Rom, has a mane that is much softer (his forelock actually gets waves in it) and finer in texture, without so much oil. Interestingly, Rom does not make much smegma on his sheath, whereas my gelding, Sleepy, whose mane is a little oilier, is a complete grease pit "down there". Nansy also made a lot of smegma between the halves of her udder, and really appreciated it when I cleaned it for her. Hint on mane trimming---wear something hairproof as your outer layer, like a grooming smock, or a nylon jacket. Do NOT wear a flannel shirt, sweatshirt, or loose-knit anything, as the short stubby pieces of hair will embed in the fabric and poke you all day! Been there Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Re: Manes
This message is from: Tamara Rousso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Lisa - I was advised to roach Harrison's mane. His was overgrown also and flopping over on the sides. It has grown back very nicely and as long as I stay on top of trimming it stays upright like it should. His mane is very, very coarse. Tamara Fallbrook www.algedifarm.com On Tuesday, February 1, 2005, at 07:21 AM, Lisa Wiley wrote: Do I wait and let it stand up or do I clip it off and let it grown in?
Manes
This message is from: "Lisa Wiley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I know there has been information written on manes and I have saved it. I have a question though. I just cut Fjiona's mane with scissors. It was very long and probably has not been cut in a very long time. I think maybe it has in her past because she just stood there and let me do it. Not this is a PMU mare and she is so good I think that maybe she was someone's fjord and ended up there. She was not bred on this farm. They say she is purebred. Anyway the mane is three inches long and flopped over. Do I wait and let it stand up or do I clip it off and let it grown in? Also I noticed that her mane is courser than my other horses and somewhat oily. Is that normal for this breed? Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ http://www.geocities.com/summerct/horses.html http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: Manes and Blankets
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Krist Martinsen wrote: My question is, who knows where I can find a waterproof turnout sheet that will fit the deep neck of a Fjord and will not be too long for a shorter horse as a Fjord. I have had Weatherbetta and even with altering them, they are less than disirable for our Fjords. Please help before Per and Otto go on strike. Try Brubacher's Harness, http://www.brubachersharness.ca I had them custom-make their wool-lined rain rug in 72" with the neck opening from a 78" pattern. Works great. Lori Albrough Moorefield Ontario (20 minutes from Brubacher's - lucky me) http://www.bluebirdlane.com
Manes and Blankets
This message is from: "Krist Martinsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just want to tell you what I use for trimming manes. They are a pair of roaching shears for horses made in Sheffeld England and are probably about 75 years old (my age). They have a long cutting edge which makes it very simple to get a nice flow to the top edge of the mane. They are still available from England. We have always used Fiskars until given these roaching shears by an old friend who got them from his father. My question is, who knows where I can find a waterproof turnout sheet that will fit the deep neck of a Fjord and will not be too long for a shorter horse as a Fjord. I have had Weatherbetta and even with altering them, they are less than disirable for our Fjords. Please help before Per and Otto go on strike. Thanks. Krist
Re: manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 10/18/04 9:22:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I like to keep their manes trimmed, and I do think that a trimmed mane > holds less ice and will not "part". I just think it looks better too. > Thanks for all the advice on trimming manes. I guess I will get out the shears and get to work and then this spring, Peg has graciously offered to come out and teach me how to do it right! I have my second PMU (almost) Fjord filly arriving tomorrow (she is 7/8 Fjord). My 12 year old son won her in a raffle and he is very excited to own his own horse! I sure hope that wonderful Fjord temperament will be dominant! (And I want the cute mane, but that is secondary to the personality!). Patty
Manes?
This message is from: "Douglas Knutsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all, Well, of course, manes should continue to be trimmed through winter. Some use this season to roach the mane entirely, so that they can start over with a fresh cut in the Spring. Remember that the mane grows faster in the Spring. Yes, especially "cresty" Fjords [like our own MVF Fatso] can have their crests "broken"by the weight of an untrimmed mane. Like many young ladies, our girls complain if their hair and nails are not done regularly. They simply don't look their best My personal best is 5 manes in one day, but my arthritic thumbal joints complain if I do more than 3 per day. And that is with good scissors [Fiskars]. I will, [will, will, will] be going to Norway next Spring for the Stallion Evaluations and the Young Stock Shows! There, will look again for more of the handy Fiskars sharpeners - they are a godsend! I found my one sharpener in the hardware section of the big general store in Nordfjordeid, but they were not there the last time I looked. We had quite a downpour today! It was comforting to observe that our Fjords do have enough sense to come in out of the rain. Poor little Soren still wants his mommy, even though he is weaned and lives with brother Windson and Princess Yenna. They are good to him, but Soren does not find trying to nurse from Windson very rewarding. At least they play. Today, the game was Windson grabsYennas tail and holds on while they circle like carousel horses. Soren looked confused, and couldn't figure out how he could get into the game. At the end of the month, Soren will go to live the life of a pampered baby stallion at the home of Solveig and Dan Watanabe. Lucky boy! He will arrive at about the same time as their new baby daughter. Hang in there, Solveig! Sadie looks forward to being able to return to the herd and get everyone back in shape. As lead mare, she takes her responsibilities very seriously. It is wonderful to see her getting her figure and weight back. Vilde carries our only foal for next year. What will we get from these new bloodlines? Whatever we get, the foal will move like a dream. OK, time for bed. Bye, Peg Peg Knutsen www.elltel.net/kffjord/
manes in winter
This message is from: "janet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't think a long mane is an asset in winter if you are likely to have ice. I left my gelding's mane grow last year and wound up trimming it after an ice storm. The trimmed manes were dry and ice free, where as the long hair on the untrimmed mane meant my gelding had a mop of ice against his neck. Janet
trimming manes in winter
This message is from: "Leo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> those of you who live in areas that have very cold winters.do you ever let their mane go natural in the winter? i am thinking of midwinter minnesota, 10 below zero, and not wanting to stand in the barn trimming hair :)... how hard is it to then trim it back in the spring? *** roach the mane just before the permafrost arrives (around thanksgiving), and then again during the february thaw, and you will be able to skip over the cold weather. I let my gelding's mane grow out just to see what it would look like, it was cute and bushy, but a real mess in the spring ice storms. It was not too difficult to trim in the spring, but I guess I found I preferred to work with horses with a trimmed mane. btw...hate to break it to you... but we get a tad bit colder than -10. A decade ago we had a 3 week streak where it never got above -30! Janet in east central MN
Natural as opposed to trimmed manes...
This message is from: Ingrid Ivic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hhmmm, my take on the mane question? I suppose we've had both "LOOKS" here. The traditional, perfectly trimmed arc on most of my herd (stallion included)...then my two beautiful, natural look mares. The trimmed mane is neat and tidy...but, I don't find our mares grown out manes looking "askew" or otherwise. No different than any other breed, if kept nicely groomed. Easy enough to start again...just cut it all off & be diligent thereafter. I have two horses of another breed here, in addition to my beloved Fjordies. They are prized for their long locks and feathers. Owners of that breed would be bashed for trimming ANY hair. It's all about tradition and convention I suppose. Ingrid Embroidered Apparel Customized Art & Gifts Please visit my Web Page Store: http://www.fullmoonfarm.us *** Please visit my eBay store: http://www.stores.ebay.com/faithfulfamiliars http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/fjord_and_friesian
Re: Manes
This message is from: "Jon A. Ofjord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:53 AM 3/27/2004 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> First of all - according to the Digest rules I have to introduce myself. Some of you may remember me, but its been two years since I last wrote on the list. My name is Pat Holland and I live in northwestern Illinois... As far as clipping of the legs - I won't even go there - those of you whom know me know I never let my clippers cool down. : Hey, Pat! Great to have you back on the list! As far as the clipper thing goes, I'll have to agree with you on that one, :-) However, your horses always look so well groomed! Its great to be back - on the Digest and most importantly back with you Fjord people whom have proven to be, without a doubt my friends. Glad to have you back. Mary O. Jon & Mary Ofjord North Coast Fjords Grand Marais, MN 55604
Re: Manes
This message is from: "Pat Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> First of all - according to the Digest rules I have to introduce myself. Some of you may remember me, but its been two years since I last wrote on the list. My name is Pat Holland and I live in northwestern Illinois. I was intensely involved with the Fjords back then- now I have my own place (newly built), on my home farm,...I've been training for the public for nearly a year now and many of my old Fjord friends have been very supportive and encouraging, many sending me horses to train and/or sell - and its simply wonderful. Anyway - I wanted to comment on Paula Chmura's question about the mane trimming and it flopping over. Last fall I received a couple of Fjords in with long overgrown manes - flopped over - one mane was very thick, the other fairly fine. My first inclination as I heard from other Fjord people before was that you had to roach it. I didn't want to do that as I had a buyer coming in a week, and wanted to present the horses in "Fjord style". I found it can be done with some diligence - and alot of time. Everyday I wet the mane and slowly took alittle off - constantly combing it. - the one with the thick mane was the hardest because the black in the center was in curves and twirled together. Oddly enough I got it all strait and standing without drastic measures. As far as clipping of the legs - I won't even go there - those of you whom know me know I never let my clippers cool down. : ) Its great to be back - on the Digest and most importantly back with you Fjord people whom have proven to be, without a doubt my friends. Pat Holland Illinois
Fwd: Tempermanent, Advertising, Manes
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Another from the Fjord List This message is from: "Fleharty, Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'll try to make this short to address all three issues. I have said before that I really think my Fjords are unusually good about tempermanent. I just took two young geldings (one year old) to a Small Farm Trade Show last evening. This was only the second time for them to be loaded in the trailed. They stepped right in and are out at the show now impressing everyone on how wonderful they are behaving. This sells their behavior more than anything else. People are so impressed with my babies and yearlings that anyone can touch them anywhere and pick up feet. That is what will sell them. My veterinarian and farrier tell other people about their dispositions all the time. Advertising pays--the Dexter Cattle Association spends big bucks on advertising and right now the prices are reflecting the demand. We also had a program on the TV station mentioned and received over 1,600 inquiries from that program alone. If we get the message out and show that Fjords can fit all needs--not just show horses but just great riding horses, cart horses, (and yes with and without trimmed manes). I have a lady who wants a pair to plow her garden--she doesn't care about a trimmed mane. Manes--(I guess I should be burned at the stake) I don't trim my mares--I don't show them and people who have seen them are amazed at how pretty they are. I trimmed my stallion because his mane was a mess and I have trimmed my two little geldings because they are my sales tool at this show. A trimmed mane doesn't make them a better horse and helps with flies since mine are always outside. I agree, I haven't sold any this year and if I don't, I may have to take them to a sale--I can't keep them all. But I need to do a better job of advertising and that's what we are trying to do. It's not their fault--they will sell themselves if only the right people see them and know about them. Rosemary in Missouri === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bushy Manes
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, grumpy Gunnar's mane is so thick there is no way it could "tangle". I am calling him "grumpy" again as he tried to nip me twice the other night when I was leading him. When will he learn that nipping the boss comes with some heavy language and a crop!!! Jean G Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946-49 $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Bushy Manes
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't spend much time grooming my Fjords, especially in the winter. However I do like to keep their manes trimmed. I feel that it shows they are cared for, and my fjords, at least, look awful when their manes get long! However my friend who has a stallion and several mares and a gelding, trims the mares and gelding, but quite often lets the stallion's mane grow long (it is really long right now) His mane tends to fall over when it gets longer than 2-3 inches. my friend periodically trims it and was debating whether to trim it for the winter, but was out-voted by the rest of the family as he looks so nice wih the long mane! I too feel like it is keeping up with tradition to trim it in the traditional style, but also think it is much easier to care for trimming it regularly than having to worry about it getting all messy and tangled. With a freshly trimmed mane and a little brushing, my fjords look all spiffed up! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tempermanent, Advertising, Manes
This message is from: "Fleharty, Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'll try to make this short to address all three issues. I have said before that I really think my Fjords are unusually good about tempermanent. I just took two young geldings (one year old) to a Small Farm Trade Show last evening. This was only the second time for them to be loaded in the trailed. They stepped right in and are out at the show now impressing everyone on how wonderful they are behaving. This sells their behavior more than anything else. People are so impressed with my babies and yearlings that anyone can touch them anywhere and pick up feet. That is what will sell them. My veterinarian and farrier tell other people about their dispositions all the time. Advertising pays--the Dexter Cattle Association spends big bucks on advertising and right now the prices are reflecting the demand. We also had a program on the TV station mentioned and received over 1,600 inquiries from that program alone. If we get the message out and show that Fjords can fit all needs--not just show horses but just great riding horses, cart horses, (and yes with and without trimmed manes). I have a lady who wants a pair to plow her garden--she doesn't care about a trimmed mane. Manes--(I guess I should be burned at the stake) I don't trim my mares--I don't show them and people who have seen them are amazed at how pretty they are. I trimmed my stallion because his mane was a mess and I have trimmed my two little geldings because they are my sales tool at this show. A trimmed mane doesn't make them a better horse and helps with flies since mine are always outside. I agree, I haven't sold any this year and if I don't, I may have to take them to a sale--I can't keep them all. But I need to do a better job of advertising and that's what we are trying to do. It's not their fault--they will sell themselves if only the right people see them and know about them. Rosemary in Missouri
RE: Testing "Manes"
This message is from: "Casanova, Julie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sofia, I don't let my Fjord manes grown long. I personally like them trimmed. I love doing it and it makes them look so nice. I just think they would look raggy if left long. To each their own, but I enjoy them clipped. I have seen recently that people are doing different things with the clipped mane. Like on was trimmed as usual then every other inch of white down the mane was an inch removed so it almost looked checkered. It was pretty neat looking and one looked jagged like a saw blade, too much trouble for me, but it was nice seeing them get creative. I have found just shoving your fingers through the side of the mane all the way down gives the black stripe a jagged look, usually only seen from the saddle. It is very interesting. Julie Lakeville, Minnesota -Original Message- From: Sofia jagbrant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:14 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: Testing "Manes" This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ohh, please don't let your fjords have long mane =O Even if it is up to the owner, I think we would keep the fine tradition from Norway. Many fjords with long mane do not look like "real" fjord, they look more like Icelandics. And the mane become very heavy at many fjords. I have don't seen one fjord with long mane witch I have think been beautiful. But, but... By the way, very welcome to this nice list :-) Nice to have you hear. //Sofia (in Sweden, who cut the mane yesterday) - Original Message - From: "Casanova, Julie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: RE: Testing > This message is from: "Casanova, Julie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello Tish, > > It is nice to hear from a fellow Minnesotan on the list. I live in Lakeville > with my two Fjords, a mare and her son a gelding. So you have left > your Fjords mane grown long, like quarter horse long?? How does that > look? I don't know that I have ever seen one with a long mane. Anyway, > do you drive > or ride or both? I am new to the list, so I don't know too many people > on the list yet. > > Julie > Lakeville, Minnesota > > -Original Message- > From: Pasqual, Patricia A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:45 AM > To: Fjord (E-mail) > Subject: Testing > > > This message is from: "Pasqual, Patricia A" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have sent a few messages to the list recently, but never saw them in > the digest. Didn't get a bounce back either. So, just testing. > > A brief word on manes - I have been conducting and experiment since > last fall, allowing Elph's mane to grow. It looks beautiful, and with > a bit of Cowboy Magic it all stays to one side. Heresy, I know, but I > rather like it. > > Tish and Elph in Snowy Minneapolis
Re: Testing "Manes"
This message is from: "Sofia jagbrant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ohh, please don't let your fjords have long mane =O Even if it is up to the owner, I think we would keep the fine tradition from Norway. Many fjords with long mane do not look like "real" fjord, they look more like Icelandics. And the mane become very heavy at many fjords. I have don't seen one fjord with long mane witch I have think been beautiful. But, but... By the way, very welcome to this nice list :-) Nice to have you hear. //Sofia (in Sweden, who cut the mane yesterday) - Original Message - From: "Casanova, Julie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: RE: Testing > This message is from: "Casanova, Julie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello Tish, > > It is nice to hear from a fellow Minnesotan on the list. I live in Lakeville > with my two Fjords, a mare and her son a gelding. So you have left your > Fjords mane grown long, like quarter horse long?? How does that look? I > don't know that I have ever seen one with a long mane. Anyway, do you drive > or ride or both? I am new to the list, so I don't know too many people on > the list yet. > > Julie > Lakeville, Minnesota > > -Original Message- > From: Pasqual, Patricia A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:45 AM > To: Fjord (E-mail) > Subject: Testing > > > This message is from: "Pasqual, Patricia A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I have sent a few messages to the list recently, but never saw them in the > digest. Didn't get a bounce back either. So, just testing. > > A brief word on manes - I have been conducting and experiment since last > fall, allowing Elph's mane to grow. It looks beautiful, and with a bit of > Cowboy Magic it all stays to one side. Heresy, I know, but I rather like > it. > > Tish and Elph in Snowy Minneapolis
Re: Bushy Manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have some information on shipping from Europe to Los Angeles as I did this last year with a warmblood from Germany. I think the price I paid is the usual fare. It cost $3,700 to fly one horse direct from Amsterdam to Los Angeles (one way). I think it is somewhat cheaper if you are shipping more than one horse. The horse is then held in mandatory quarantine for 3 days if it is a gelding and I believe longer for stallions and mares. The quarantine price is $1,850 which includes UDSA testing, blood work, etc. which is all done by law. There is no way to bring in a horse without this. One of the quarantine stations is LA is called "Jet Pets" and their number is 310-823-3731. The agent that arranged the air transport was Guido Klatte at International Horse Transport. His number is +49-172-5283210 . I'm sure there are other agents but this was the one recommended to me and he is very reputable and takes care of all the transport details. Horses need a passport to travel international. I hope this information is helpful. Elaine Olsen
Re: Bushy Manes
This message is from: william jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A question from Barcelona Spain: Would anyone in the Fjord group have information on shipping horses to California or any other point in the U.S. from either Amsterdam or Frankfurt? I have received variable price quotes and am not sure what the average might be. I am also concerned with the price/security factor. I would appreciate any help. Sincerely, William Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I keep my fjord's manes roached because it makes the chrome show better. The black dorsal stripe is flashy. Now the real reason. It is much cleaner, I don't have a bunch of hair under the collar so less chance to get a sore there. It is also one less thing to comb. I do leave a tail right over the withers in case I get a stupid moment & want to jump on bareback to go for a ride. This "tail" provides a handle for the children that always want to get up on the horses. Even though no one expressed interest the harness I had for sale is no longer for sale as the owner decided to keep it. Another bargain lost. I do still have C-1404 for sale if you need a horse to teach you, & your horses the ropes in harness work. Joel Harman Brass Ring Ranch farming & logging with fjords Mosier OR Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
Bushy Manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I keep my fjord's manes roached because it makes the chrome show better. The black dorsal stripe is flashy. Now the real reason. It is much cleaner, I don't have a bunch of hair under the collar so less chance to get a sore there. It is also one less thing to comb. I do leave a tail right over the withers in case I get a stupid moment & want to jump on bareback to go for a ride. This "tail" provides a handle for the children that always want to get up on the horses. Even though no one expressed interest the harness I had for sale is no longer for sale as the owner decided to keep it. Another bargain lost. I do still have C-1404 for sale if you need a horse to teach you, & your horses the ropes in harness work. Joel Harman Brass Ring Ranch farming & logging with fjords Mosier OR Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
Re: Collars and Manes
This message is from: SUSAN GIARGIARI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Eileen! We use draft harness and collars quite a bit and just make sure when the collar is put on that the mane isn't pulled back or stuck ..we run our hand up inside to have the mane be upright.not that it isn't "squished" for a bit but it comes right back to being normal and you usually can't tell there was a collar on it!. It does help if the mane is kept trimmed,I know some thin manes can stay standing straight up and be about six or seven inches tall! This then will show some "messy hairs" after having a collar on... When I use my driving harness which has the strap for the breast collar...it doesn't leave a "mark" where it was even after a "four day travel " with a wagon train from southern to norther VT. I wouldn't cut anything out for either of these.collar or breast collar strap..just make sure your mane is cut and keep it trimmed..no marks should show!! Hope this helps! Sue in Northfield, MA where the sun has been out fo! r three days and the temps have been in the 60's !
Re: Trimming Manes and weather
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 7/13/2002 6:07:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The best > part is if you goof up, it will always grow back out. Very well said!! Don't let that mane intimidate you, it's just hair. ;) Just comb it good and imagine that arch, then start snipping. Good Luck! Amy Amy Evers Dun Lookin' Fjords Redmond, OR Fjord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trimming Manes and weather
This message is from: The Mercers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Just do it. Use a good pair of Fiskars. They cost about $15. The best > part is if you goof up, it will always grow back out.< Well, I did it. Lisken no longer looks like a baby with curly, fluffy long mane. What change it made in her looks! I gave her a full bath at the same time. She looks pretty good right now - of course I know she'll go roll in the dirt somewhere and undo it all. Ü She loves to roll after standing in the irrigation sprinklers, too. >Forgot where you live, but it must be in the southwest. Yes?< Central Washington state. Who ever named this state the "evergreen state" never visited the east side of the state! It's been over 105* all week. > "Built FJORD tough"< > Carol M. , On Golden Pond, Northern Wisconsin< I love the "built FJORD tough!" Lisken was born April 28th so is a "Taurus" so we'd jokingly thought about calling her "Quad-L's Fjord Taurus." We're a Ford family and of course Fjord is just Ford with a "J!" Ü Have a great day everyone, Taffy Mercer in HOT central Washington state
Re: Trimming Manes and weather
This message is from: "Carol J. Makosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Mercers wrote: > This message is from: The Mercers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi All, > > Well, it's time for me to do my first mane trimming. Anyone have some > good hints as to what works best for them? I also have to trim my 2 1/2 > month old filly's mane for the first time. How do you start? Hi, Just do it. Use a good pair of Fiskars. They cost about $15. The best part is if you goof up, it will always grow back out. There should be plenty of chat and info about this in the archives. Forgot where you live, but it must be in the southwest. Yes? Good luck on the manes. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
Trimming Manes and weather
This message is from: The Mercers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi All, Well, it's time for me to do my first mane trimming. Anyone have some good hints as to what works best for them? I also have to trim my 2 1/2 month old filly's mane for the first time. How do you start? She looks like Little Orphan Annie with the gorgeous mane of red curls which is now turning the standard black and cream as it grows out. It was 107* here at the farm today. In town it was up to 117* according to a thermometers at a bank. I gave all three Fjords a good washing to cool them off and we installed Arizona misters in the paddock area to help cool it a few degrees. Keep cool! Taffy Mercer
Re: Clippin' Manes
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Original Message Follows From: Steve and Mary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For just zooming down the mane all in one shot, best to use the orange handled regular Fiskars. They're sharp, last a long time, are quiet and precise. Just teach your horse to lick your hand so she puts her head down for you. Then you can just stand there nonchalantly and snip all the way down. Mary Dixon and Finne the wonder fjord I like your tip Mary about them putting their heads down! The only horse who would not oblige me this is my stallion Sven. He takes a very dim view of me cutting his precious mane, and stands stock still ntil I start to cut, then he wiggles his neck. Brat! I love the way the Fiskars scissors work.They are the BEST IMO. I found I can purchase them at my local landscape supply vendor...landscapers use them for cutting weed barrier fabric. The nice big scissors run me $8.00 there. Think I am gonna buy a mess of 'em and use them for awards at the Turlock Show. Would anyone appreciate that? kmac _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Clippin' Manes
This message is from: Steve and Mary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I use a nice pair of Fiskars sewing scissors (thanks Bernadine Karns for the great tip!). I was already quite proficient in using them precisely from my nearly ten years of making my polymer dog breed jewelry ( which was sold nationally in galleries, art shops and dog shows). You can use the squeezie kind (nice for details, such as making fjord stripeswhere you snip off an inch of white every five inches or so so the black showsthat's how Finne is right now) or for cutting the white a bit lower so the black is higher in the middle (how I did him for the Novi Horse Expo in Nov), the traditional way. For just zooming down the mane all in one shot, best to use the orange handled regular Fiskars. They're sharp, last a long time, are quiet and precise. Just teach your horse to lick your hand so she puts her head down for you. Then you can just stand there nonchalantly and snip all the way down. Mary Dixon and Finne the wonder fjord
cut manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Could be that the Vikings trimmed the Fjord's manes because they were so thick they became entangled in the reins. A very long time ago in my barrel racing, Gymkhana, days I had an appaloosa (mostly quarter horse in background) with such a thick mane I had to roach it so that it wouldn't tangle in the reins, making neck reining difficult. Sue C
RE: manes, mules, Turlock
This message is from: "Cindy Vallecillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Carole, Oh well, here I go again. Once you start me up You need to go to the Pre-Eval Clinic that Karen McCarthy is having at her ranch in Carson City, NV on July 7th and 8th. There is going to be a mane trimming demo!!! I am getting way too excited about all this! Cindy Vallecillo The Cove, San Bruno, California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 6:00 AM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: manes, mules, Turlock This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, so when I get desperate I will take off my mule's mane to start over, but otherwise, just like the Fjord, she gets her mane trimmed into a nice arch! No, I do NOT keep it roached!!! YUK!! It is a bit shorter than the Fjord's, though. I am taking my gelding, Nattmann, to Turlock. Besides wanting to have some idea on my own as to how "typically Fjordy" he is, it helps the breeder to know that they are on the right track, too, with their breeding program. So, it isn't as much of a futile effort to take a gelding to an evaluation as one might think, but can be very constructive for both the owner and the breeder! But, how could any breeder go wrong with these cuties??!!! So, there's my thought on the subjectand "GOOD!" for all you bringing geldings!!! Back to manesthe white is gone in the middle of Nattmann's mane.oops, oh well! So, I am supposed to evenly clip the white 1/4" below the black, and have it look GOOD??!?! So far my efforts are definitely sub par! Anyone in Turlock doing manes for those of us that are scissor/mane challenged so that we may present our Fjords to their best advantage in the evaluation and for the show!??!?!??!?!? (We at least can do the halter class). Carole Sweet Modesto, CA
manes, mules, Turlock
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, so when I get desperate I will take off my mule's mane to start over, but otherwise, just like the Fjord, she gets her mane trimmed into a nice arch! No, I do NOT keep it roached!!! YUK!! It is a bit shorter than the Fjord's, though. I am taking my gelding, Nattmann, to Turlock. Besides wanting to have some idea on my own as to how "typically Fjordy" he is, it helps the breeder to know that they are on the right track, too, with their breeding program. So, it isn't as much of a futile effort to take a gelding to an evaluation as one might think, but can be very constructive for both the owner and the breeder! But, how could any breeder go wrong with these cuties??!!! So, there's my thought on the subjectand "GOOD!" for all you bringing geldings!!! Back to manesthe white is gone in the middle of Nattmann's mane.oops, oh well! So, I am supposed to evenly clip the white 1/4" below the black, and have it look GOOD??!?! So far my efforts are definitely sub par! Anyone in Turlock doing manes for those of us that are scissor/mane challenged so that we may present our Fjords to their best advantage in the evaluation and for the show!??!?!??!?!? (We at least can do the halter class). Carole Sweet Modesto, CA
RE: manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/18/2000 7:16:52 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Any > suggestions? I think it would be hard to thin it, and I really detest the > idea of shaving it for the winter, because everyone who ever sees Jon is > always intrigued by his mane. He looks so cute, i couldn't trim it. So, any > ideas? > Thanks! > Katy and Jon The best thing to do would be to shave it off this winter. If left alone... after a couple of years, it possibly will weaken his crest and break it over. If it is growing as fast as you say, it will most certainly be back before you know it !!! Lou Check out our website http://hometown.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.html";>DoubleDay Farm - Paint & Miniature Horses
Re: BDF Jason and Manes
This message is from: "katy/liz/bill/cha/afa/eda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carol- You recently mentioned hunting with BDF Jason in a well-known PA hunt? THat isn't Radnor Hunt or Cheshire Hunt, by any chance? If so, we live really close to Radnor! I liked your story about hunting. Hopefully Jon and I will be doing that some day! Another question: Do fjords' manes get thicker in the winter? Jon's just got rapidly thicker for some strange reason... I've been cutting it regularly, and keeping it about 3 inches high, but it is flopping over. Any suggestions? I think it would be hard to thin it, and I really detest the idea of shaving it for the winter, because everyone who ever sees Jon is always intrigued by his mane. He looks so cute, i couldn't trim it. So, any ideas? Thanks! Katy and Jon
Re: missing digest/Manes
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One of my Fjords has a mane with a lot of this soft hair on the very upper poart of his neck. I just trim it off. His mane also does not stand up very well in that area but I hold it upright to trim then it curls down after the trim, only a short area back of his ears. It actually looks pretty good when I trim his mane pretty short. Gives a nice arch at the pole. I trim HIS mane with an inch of theblack showing. All my Fjords are different in their mane styles so I have to do a style to suit the horse. And yes, one side ALWAYS looks better! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, the First day of the Fair and it ISN'T RAINING...yet! (could the weatherman/Fair tradition be wrong?) Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Manes, NZ fencing, Names, snaps
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yes Peg, I am glad you did not take up singing as an avocation. I can see the crowded auditorium clearing out! Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
Manes, NZ fencing, Names, snaps
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi all- Just want to respond to a few items. Thanks, Meridith, for the mention of Erlend's mane. That head shot only picture has a pretty good trim. I wish the one he's wearing on the flyer we sent out were a little different - thinner at the withers - but, oh well. Anyway, my thing is to sing to the Fjordies while I'm trimming their manes. Pepper once fell asleep, and the rest seem to get more, rather than less, restless. Since my sons exhibited these two reactions to my singing when they were little, maybe I should learn to whistle... I want to mention that I have a friend whose horse ran into New Zealand type fencing and was killed, so I'm still in favor of the kind that will break. I may be the only one, but I find those French safety snaps difficult to operate with my arthritic thumbs. It's the twisting. I use the pull-down ones, even though they can be opened accidently. Again, I'd rather have that than a struggling horse I had no chance of freeing. There are a couple of web sites which feature male and female Scandinavian baby names. Very helpful. Any good search engine should find them. And finally, I just finished a 3-day clinic given by Kelley Mills, my trainer/instructor/mentor/friend, covering various non-traditional approaches to horse care, such as accupressure, herbs, etc. She speaks all around the country on various aspects of horse care, and runs a very successful horse rescue operation. She also incorporates Feldenkreis and Alexander techniques into her riding instruction to help us stop pounding on the backs of our horses. Or horses and Fjords, she might say if she's in one of those moods The info was a lot, but a good beginning. Bye now, I have to go touch Willie filly. Peg Knutsen http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Re: Trimming Manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I buy scissors from the leather supply store, they run about $12 a pair. The scissors are for cutting leather, and are wonderful for Fjord manes. I spray them with the lubricant I use for my clippers, the pair I am currently using have been in use 2 years and are still as good as new. I trim 2 Fjords (soon to be 3) every 6 weeks. Sue Clark-Sorger Crown Oak Fjords Sandia Park NM
Re[2]: Trimming Manes
This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean-- Wednesday, March 29, 2000, you wrote: > FISKARS! Look up all the posts on the FISKARS scissors in the archives. > They have them at the craft and hardware stores. I just got the new spring > loaded ones with the grey handle ($18) and BOY are they ever nice! I noticed they just started stocking the Soft Touch Fiskars at our local Sam's Clubs stores. I believe they were priced at $14. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA It's never the horse, it's always the rider. --Old Cavalry Adage
Re: Trimming Manes
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 04:49 PM 3/29/00 +0800, you wrote: This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well I cut Gwendellins mane for the first time today. I can't say it's a perfect job, but it turned out pretty good I think! I would like to have recommendations of types of scissors that work best for this procedure? The Fiskars are by far the best for mane trimming. Here is a picture of the ones that work the best: http://industrial.fiskars.com/scissors/products/9911.html for the little fine work try these: http://industrial.fiskars.com/scissors/products/9921.html Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trimming Manes
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> FISKARS! Look up all the posts on the FISKARS scissors in the archives. They have them at the craft and hardware stores. I just got the new spring loaded ones with the grey handle ($18) and BOY are they ever nice! you hand doesn't get tired. I have had the large ones with the orange handles and they do great but these new "soft touch" Fiskars are even better! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where mild weather has returned after two days of winter again. +42F and rising! >Well I cut Gwendellins mane for the first time today. I can't say it's a >perfect job, but it turned out pretty good I think! I would like to have >recommendations of types of scissors that work best for this procedure? Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trimming Manes
This message is from: "Sarah Vogeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well I cut Gwendellins mane for the first time today. I can't say it's a perfect job, but it turned out pretty good I think! I would like to have recommendations of types of scissors that work best for this procedure? Her mane is quite thick, and the ones I used were intended to cut human hair, but they still weren't sharp enough... I would ultimately prefer to use clippers, but if I made a boo boo, it would really show up! Thanks for your help, Jan! It was quite wonderful to cut my very own Fjord's mane! I couldn't have done it without your instruction! _ Sarah Vogeley New Forest Farm Charlottesville, VA
Re: manes
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sorry solate in getting back to you. You send the hair to : (this IS the real address, ok?) Frankie Dougal, Jordan Valley, Oregon, 97910 tel.(208) 583-2303 call her and tell her how much you have, and how much she will charge. Starts at $25.oo I think. Karen From: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: Subject: Re: manes Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:20:51 -0800 This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> karen, where do you send the hair and how much does it cost? denise __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: manes
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> karen, where do you send the hair and how much does it cost? denise
Re: manes
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...Just a little snippet as relates to manes: if any of you ever let them grow out long enough to flop over, and, if you ride western, you can have very nice mane hair mecates (the BEST kind!) made up. I have a set of romal rein, mecate, and a "get down" rope all made primarily of baby hair. I just sent another bunch of hair (appx 4.5 lbs) and an waiting for the resulting ropes... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Re: manes Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 03:48:08 EST This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/10/00 10:59:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Lou that's an excellent idea, the timing would work great. It always looks s funny when they have just had their manes roached! BUT, I actually got out today and took care of the manes I have just the three Fjords and I attacked their manes with my Fiskars!!! It was a "balmy" 42 degrees and the sun was shining. Ori looks and feels like a new woman ... she has such a thick mane, it seems impossible to tame. But, it's quite >> I do it every year to Lars, right after the Christmas parades, so he is ready for the St Pat's parades in March. Merek __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/11/00 6:22:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << So the tops of their necks don't get cold after roaching their manes??? Somehow, I have always worried/wondered about that. Obviously, Lars has never complained ... Sarah Nagel where it's still in the 20's or teens at night. >> I don't know if that could happen, but he lives indoors, so it is not a concern on Long Island. Merek
Re: manes
This message is from: "Carl & Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> original message: >I do it every year to Lars, right after the Christmas parades, so he is ready >for the St Pat's parades in March. Merek > Dear Merek So the tops of their necks don't get cold after roaching their manes??? Somehow, I have always worried/wondered about that. Obviously, Lars has never complained ... Sarah Nagel where it's still in the 20's or teens at night.
Re: manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/10/00 10:59:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Lou that's an excellent idea, the timing would work great. It always looks s funny when they have just had their manes roached! BUT, I actually got out today and took care of the manes I have just the three Fjords and I attacked their manes with my Fiskars!!! It was a "balmy" 42 degrees and the sun was shining. Ori looks and feels like a new woman ... she has such a thick mane, it seems impossible to tame. But, it's quite >> I do it every year to Lars, right after the Christmas parades, so he is ready for the St Pat's parades in March. Merek
Re: manes
This message is from: "Carl & Sarah Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Original Message- >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sarah, roach them now, and by springtime they will be grown out just about >right !!! >Lou Lou that's an excellent idea, the timing would work great. It always looks soooo funny when they have just had their manes roached! BUT, I actually got out today and took care of the manes I have just the three Fjords and I attacked their manes with my Fiskars!!! It was a "balmy" 42 degrees and the sun was shining. Ori looks and feels like a new woman ... she has such a thick mane, it seems impossible to tame. But, it's quite nice looking now! The other two are the younger ones, they don't stand so still, but their manes aren't nearly as thick and unruly, and were much easier and faster to do. Sarah Nagel, who has showered and changed, but still finding "fjord" hairs.
Re: manes
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 02/10/2000 5:00:37 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Sarah Nagel in sunny Northern Idaho with some manes standing up tall and > "funny looking" and other manes that are about 6 inches wide and 6 inches > tall Sarah, roach them now, and by springtime they will be grown out just about right !!! Lou Check out our website http://members.aol.com/dbldayfarm/index.htm";>DoubleDay Farm Miniature & Paint Horses
