RE: Truck Advice - Dodge Death Wobble?
This message is from: Hope and Horses hopeandhor...@live.com How interesting and incredibly timely that this topic came up right now. We have happily been a die-hard Dodge family for over a decade. But about 6 months ago our truck (2007 1 ton Cummins 4WD quad cab srw long box w/manual transmission) had the dreaded Dodge Death Wobble (see link below or google it if you haven't heard of it). We thought we had it fixed...but on the way back from looking at a horse on Sunday, it happened again. I thank God we had decided not to haul the trailer and bring the horse back that day, that we were in the right-hand lane on the freeway, and that we were not on a curve. We were able to safely let the truck come to a stop, but it could have been so much worse. We have done a great deal of research on this problem, and have replaced every part suggested to fix the problemwe are done. From what I understand from what's posted online, it is possible for any heavy duty truck to have this problem, but much less likely on the GMCs and Chevys because they have a different type of suspension than the Dodges and some of the Fords. We are planning to trade the Dodge in on a GMC or Chevy Duramaxhas anyone had this issue with their Duramax? I've heard nothing but good things about the Duramax and the Allison Transmissionsso I'm hopeful we are making the safe and right choice for our family and our horses. I don't ever want to experience the dreaded death wobble again. Any input would be greatly appreciated - thank you! -Barb http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/1305dp_curring_death_wobble_tightening_up_ your_steering/ However, when it comes to trucks, pulling a big load, I'll take the Dodge, 1 ton diesel, dual rear wheels[for safety] and exhaust break. I have owned both, also have many friends over the years, all favor the Dodge. Good luck, Jerry, in NW Wa. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Truck Advice - Dodge Death Wobble Fords too?
This message is from: Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org I could not get the link to work for me, but interestingly, we had this problem with a Ford F250. We did everything that was suggested by the dealer, including a new axel, new tires, differential joints, Steering shaft, etc., etc., and the truck would go along okay for a while, but the steering wheel would suddenly start to wobble or bounce up and down. I even took a video of it to show the dealer. Nothing we did made it any better. The fix came when we traded it for another F250-Heavy Duty, which we still have at 12 years old. The dealer gave us a very nice deal when we traded in the old truck. We never did find out what caused the problem. Mary Ofjord North Coast Services, LLC 218-387-1879 This message is from: Hope and Horses hopeandhor...@live.com had the dreaded Dodge Death Wobble Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Truck Advice - Dodge Death Wobble Fords too?
This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com Hmmthe front end on our 1993 F250 has always felt loose. We did get the front end rebuilt recently, so maybe that fixed it, but I know Karen McCarthy had an F250 that had a similar front end feel, and I remember her saying something about, they all have it. Gail On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org wrote: This message is from: Mary Ofjord ma...@boreal.org I could not get the link to work for me, but interestingly, we had this problem with a Ford F250. We did everything that was suggested by the dealer, including a new axel, new tires, differential joints, Steering shaft, etc., etc., and the truck would go along okay for a while, but the steering wheel would suddenly start to wobble or bounce up and down. I even took a video of it to show the dealer. Nothing we did made it any better. The fix came when we traded it for another F250-Heavy Duty, which we still have at 12 years old. The dealer gave us a very nice deal when we traded in the old truck. We never did find out what caused the problem. Mary Ofjord North Coast Services, LLC 218-387-1879 This message is from: Hope and Horses hopeandhor...@live.com had the dreaded Dodge Death Wobble Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Truck Advice
This message is from: Me Kint me.k...@yahoo.com Brian's advice is the best Talk with a good mechanic!A good mechanic has a Book they go buy as far as cost of repairs. Ours told us the same that Ford was the highest several years ago when we consulted him. Your mechanic can explain what their reference guide means to you. Also what their over all experience has been with trucks they have a wealth of information. If you don't have a good mechanic, find one thru word of mouth of others. From Mary's iPad PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS EMAIL. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Truck Advice - Dodge Death Wobble Fords too?
This message is from: Karen McCarthy weeg...@hotmail.com Hi Gail, No I don't remember referring to all Ford's having this death wobble issue. My truck suffered from a loose steering issue which was remedied by a simple trip to the Ford dealer. Tire inflation and frame were a-ok. I have a 99' F250 7.3L and so far, so good, no major issues. Of course it helps to have Dave doting after it ;-) We're real luddites here, all of our vehicles are old, easier to maintain. I have the 'fanciest' vehicles, a 2000 VW Golf TDI and the 99' F250. They both have computers, whohoo! Of course Dave's bale wagon has a computer in it too ;-) I remember meeting you guys at the Red Bluff Gelding sale (in 2004?) and you Jim were driving a Lexus with a built-in navigation system. I thought that was pretty high-tech. Now, yawn. Enjoying a springlike day here; even caught the 1st fly zipping 'round my kitchen. I'm not fooled though. March is not to be trusted here in central Oregon... Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Truck Advice - Dodge Death Wobble Fords too?
This message is from: Amy Evers fjord...@aol.com This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com Hmmthe front end on our 1993 F250 has always felt loose. We did getthe front end rebuilt recently, so maybe that fixed it, but I know KarenMcCarthy had an F250 that had a similar front end feel, and I remember hersaying something about, they all have it. Funny... I have a 1992 F250 with the 460. I have NEVER had either steering or frame problems with it. And, it still gets about 10-12 mpg empty and 8-10 towing. (actually, I got 15.5 mpg on the freeway last weekend running between 70 75 miles per hour. I DO however have a friend that bought a Chevy HD a couple years ago and after the FIRST TIME towing had issues. took it back to the dealership and they found that the frame had bent from towing their gooseneck, on paved roads. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Truck Advice
This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com Hi All, I am trying to figure out what to do about buying another truck, or fixing the one I have. My situation is as follows: I have a 2007 F350 long box crew cab dually diesel truck 4x4 that gets about 12 miles to a gallon. It replaced a 1993 F250 regular cab 4x4 truck with a 460 engine that gets even less miles, especially when towing. The F250 is still in the family but is showing signs of a dead transmission (cost $3K to $4K). It has about 165,000 miles on the 460. The radiator may be compromised on it as it tends to get hot when driven slowly on desert roads with the AC on. I just rebuilt the brakes and the front end on the F250. The seats on the F250 are not comfortable. One thing about the F250 is that it has the old body frame which causes it to have an enormous turning radius. Much larger than the 2 foot longer F350. Both of our trucks have gooseneck and bumper hitches. We love the F350. It is the Lariat edition and the seats are comfortable, the engine braking makes horse hauling a dreamlove the truck. I would like to have a spare truck. We are finding that we would like to leave our camper on our truck all the time, which means we need a truck that can haul our three horse Silverlite when needed. What I am thinking of doing is trying to get a newer truck that mimics the F350 we love, but is not such a big investment. By mimics, I mean engine braking, somewhat better mileage than the F250, 4 wheel drive, long box, with tow package and better turning radius. Either a crew cab or extra cab. Probably a crew cab. What I do not know is where the Ford trucks changed radically...so I know what years are suitable. Opinions? Gail Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Truck Advice
This message is from: jerry jfri...@comcast.net Hi Gail, Asking a question like this to a 100 people you will probably get a 100 different reasons to buy one truck over another one, we all have our favorites. I am a Ford person. However, when it comes to trucks, pulling a big load, I'll take the Dodge, 1 ton diesel, dual rear wheels[for safety] and exhaust break. I have owned both, also have many friends over the years, all favor the Dodge. 4WD's all require more room for turning,, Dodge, is a little better here. [expect 11-12 miles miles to the gallon with a big load,,,18-20 empty, both makes] Good luck, Jerry, in NW Wa. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fw: Truck Info--regarding hauling a gooseneck with a short bed
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com - Forwarded Message - From: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com To: EmailUser bolinsj boli...@myshorelink.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 7:46 AM Subject: Re: Truck Info We got the short bed, but if you are going to pull a 5th wheel or Gooseneck, you will have to get a Slider Hitch installed in the bed, or experience the same event Lindy Hild went through. We went with the HD model which rides harder than the regular 2500, but we can haul up to 2600 pounds I have the short bed now and I have one of those hitch extender balls which has made it a little easier although I hauled it for a long time without with no problem but I am aware of the potential and was just careful. I don't know the difference but the guy that delivered our trailer because they didn't have it right when we went to pick it up was an experienced trailer hauler and he put it through the back window of his boss' short bed pickup--don't remember what brand that was.. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Fwd: Truck
This message is from: Me Kint me.k...@yahoo.com From Mary's iPad PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS EMAIL. Begin forwarded message: We have a BrenderUp trailer a Ram 2500 Diesel. We don't even know we are pulling a trailer with this truck. The trailer has inertia brakes which are no comparison to electric brakes. I don't know if any other companies have this type of trailer brakesthey are far superior plus you don't have to have a special system in your truck. (We've had electric brakes trailer in the past). We don't have the full size bed the shorter bed has been very adequate. We can get our Running Brook cart in if you want to go into driving. We have the extended cab our truck seats 6 which we need when daughter grand kids come to visit. We have the usual power steering, brakes, AC, radio, CD player, power mirrors--but not high end, cloth seats. We have chrome bumpers which for durability is important. We also have 4 x 4 which we need because of our dirt roads can be a problem in the winter wet muddy roads. No problems with the truck so far. Purchased new in 2005, have about ! 80,000 miles. This truck has electrical hook up trailer ready. Different trailers have different plugs. You may need an adaptor or change your plug. It is a must to have a proper heavy duty radiator/transmission system. We have a friend who pulled a trailer (RV) with a 1500 ram had trouble with over heating of his system on a long haul (not flat roads). From Mary's iPad PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS EMAIL. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Truck PS
This message is from: Me Kint me.k...@yahoo.com We had steps put on also because the 4 x 4 is high up to get in. This is not a smooth ride on our bumpy dirt roads due to the heavy suspension system but is fine on the highway. I personally would be uncomfortable with a dually truck because I am depth perception challenged it is easy to side swipe those duallys. Our trailer is a bumper pull. From Mary's iPad PLEASE REMOVE ALL E-MAIL ADDRESSES BEFORE SENDING OR FORWARDING THIS EMAIL. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
RE: Truck PS
This message is from: Gail Russell g...@zeliga.com Our truck has a wide running board that extends back to the bed. I wonder if it would need a narrower, and less user friendly, running board if it did not have the dually wheels sticking out anyway? It is important to be able to get up into the bed easily. it is easy to side swipe those duallys. Our trailer is a bumper pull. Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw FH_L Shirts: http://tinyurl.com/8yky94l
Re: Truck and trailer
This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com Yes in Bonita Springs which is about 40 minutes south of me. I just thought if anyone was interested, I could send them the ad and even possibly go look at it for them. My friend had some lady from Ohio buy her horse trailer and I bought one in Indiana once--probably wouldn't do it again but who knows? If it is the right trailer at the right price, might be worth it. Robin From: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Truck and trailer This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com This horse trailer is in Fla? From: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:27 AM Subject: Truck and trailer This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com If anyone is in the market for a truck and/or trailer, there was a nice-looking four-star two horse bumper pull and an F-150 with 42K miles on it for sale on craigslist here. The woman said she was getting out of horses so she was selling them. She was asking 9k for the trailer and 15.5k for the truck but probably is negotiable. I have a four-star and they are good trailers. Just thought I would mention it. If anyone is interested, e-mail me privately and I can send you the listing Robin in Florida where it is certainly stinkin hot, muggy and miserable--did I mention buggy? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: Truck and trailer
This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com Just a tad too far from me, seeing I'm in MaineI have a trailer but like everything else, it's getting old...just had some work done on it will last for awhile yetthanks for the info From: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Truck and trailer This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com Yes in Bonita Springs which is about 40 minutes south of me. I just thought if anyone was interested, I could send them the ad and even possibly go look at it for them. My friend had some lady from Ohio buy her horse trailer and I bought one in Indiana once--probably wouldn't do it again but who knows? If it is the right trailer at the right price, might be worth it. Robin From: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:16 AM Subject: Re: Truck and trailer This message is from: S K windyacre...@yahoo.com This horse trailer is in Fla? From: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:27 AM Subject: Truck and trailer This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com If anyone is in the market for a truck and/or trailer, there was a nice-looking four-star two horse bumper pull and an F-150 with 42K miles on it for sale on craigslist here. The woman said she was getting out of horses so she was selling them. She was asking 9k for the trailer and 15.5k for the truck but probably is negotiable. I have a four-star and they are good trailers. Just thought I would mention it. If anyone is interested, e-mail me privately and I can send you the listing Robin in Florida where it is certainly stinkin hot, muggy and miserable--did I mention buggy? Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Fwd: Last chance for truck tickets
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Full-name: Chareata Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:34:19 EDT Subject: Last chance for truck tickets To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5003 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain The drawing for the truck is at the Auction Sat. night - so let me know if you haven't gotten yours and want some/one. Yes we take visa, master card, personal checks, first born as long as they work, horse trade. Got the idea? Robyn F-350 totally loaded $100.00 a piece less than 700 sold **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
truck for 4 horse
This message is from: Don Brackett [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm sorry! I know this has been discussed for ever and again, but I can't seem to make the archives work! I am buying a 4 horse hawk, slant load. Empty weight 6,300 lbs. Max capacity 12,000lbs. I am also looking at trucks to haul it with. I have as many recommendations as sales people I've talked to!!! Will a 3/4 Chevy 2500HD with the duramax and allison work (GVW is 9,200) or should I go up to the 1 ton dually diesel (GVW 11,400)? These are two specific trucks we've found nearby with decent prices. Sorry to rehash but thank you! Jane in rainy Maine The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
buying trailor and truck
This message is from: CHERYL GARNICA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RE: trailers: Looked into the specifics this summer, haven't bought yet either. Asked around and googled it, also good article on what to look for in Horse Illustrated couple of months ago. If you haven't bought a truck yet, then calculate the total wt. you will tow. Should include trailer wt. plus horse wt. maximum, plus tack/feed/anything else you will put in the trailer to tow. Then look for truck that can actually pull that wt. loaded. Manufacturers book that comes with truck has the figures and how to calculate what you can safely tow. May want to add 300# at least for margin of error to your loaded wt. just to be safe (or so I was told!). Besides unsafe overloading trailer wt. wise, the stability of it and engine or transmission burn out rate high if overloaded for what truck can pull. If you have the truck alreadystill figure out the max wt it can tow, still add up your figures. I have an F 150 and figured (maybe erroneously!) that with tack, two horses 2300# approx. etc, I'd be looking into an aluminum or lighter trailer. Someone told me that some of the F 250 engines are the same as the 150sso you gotta go back to the gear ration/wt ratio stuff. Think I googled an article on it...if I come across it I'll post the site. Hope it helps...most guys that tow get into these numbers and can be good source of advice...I don't always believe the sales people... Cheryl in S. Cal
truck 'n trailer
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Vanessa - probably a lot of people who know more about this than I do, but 11 years ago we bought a new 2 horse Kingston bumper-pull to use to take my daughter to Pony Club functions. Kingstons are very popular here in the NE. I am still using it all the time, and it still looks great. The only thing we have had to do is plug a couple of tires, no trouble yet with the floor or hitch. We do take good care of it, pulling the mats out in the fall and checking all, waxing as far up as I can reach with a mounting block, and getting the hubs packed about every 2 years. I used to pull it with a 6 cyl Ford Explorer, 21 mpg. It was weak, but did over 9 years of work with the standard transmission giving out at 170,000. Now I have a Toyota Tundra, ext cab, 8cyl, 17mpg. It is a lot better, but I wish I had a smaller car for errands. They don't make a vehicle that is small, gets great gas mileage and pulls a horse trailer too. I do have friends who use a Brederup and are quite happy with it, pull it with a smaller SUV. Just my 2 cents. Valerie Columbia, CT
Re: truck just broke down
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Debbie, Thank you! Martie and John helped us out right after I posted yesterday. Thank you again for checking, that is very kind of you! Lynda In a message dated 3/4/2005 11:26:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: do you still need someone to help you I am in NJ Debbie Thanks much, references are available. Lynda and Daniel Bailey's White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/index.html
Truck for sale in NW Washington
This message is from: Russ Laurie Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1978 Ford F-250 Trailer Special, 460, Auto, PB, PS, tilt steering, cruise control, extended cab, running boards, 1 ton suspension, heavy duty transmission, transmission cooler (full tow package). Front and rear receiver hitch, fold down gooseneck hitch, spray in liner (Rhino). Trailer brake controller, dual batteries, good tires. Body in good shape, minimal rust. 140,000 miles. 2 owners. Great towing vehicle! $2500 OBO. 360-678-1551 (evenings best) Located on Whidbey Island. Laurie Lamb
Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: shawna smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Has anyone ever tried a Weight Distribution System for the trailer hitch? These are rated very well, but I was wondering if any of you had experience with them. Thanks again, Jayne Jayne, I haul a 16ft. stock trailer with a 1-ton Ford and can haul 1-4 horses. It is equipped with a weight distribution system (load leveler). I always use it. This system is excellent in preventing sway and increasing stability of the load. I would call it mandatory for your Dakota, but it will not make towing with a light-weight pick-up fool-proof. However it will be very beneficial to you. I have in the past, when hauling 1 horse short distance, just hooked up straight to the bumper and could feel a big difference. Good Luck!! Shawna
Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 3/19/2003 10:51:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our most recent upgrade has been to a 2002 Toyota Tundra (still 4WD, V8, towing capacity 7000 lb). Man, what a difference! Now, my only problem towing on the freeway is keeping the rig under 70 mph! So you did get the Tundra after all! Mine is still going strong, after a bizarre transmission problem. Some small part broke, lodging itself in other parts, causing a $2400 repair! The transmission guy swore this was the best transmission on the market and this is the first time he's ever seen a problem. Great, so it's just MY Tundra. Of course the warranty had expired 5 minutes earlier... Bottom line---one can tow with too small vehicles, IF they are Toyotas. ;-) I hear that. Did this with my Toyota Tacoma, although it probably wasn't such a hot idea. I'd say I got away with it but I wouldn't recommend it. I'm sure it put a heck of a stress on the engine. Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html;Fjordings West/A
Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayne, I have an older two horse, oversized 2300 lb trailer towed by my 3/4 ton 1987 ford truck. I think the sway bars add stability altho the trailer tows quite smoothly on it's own. Just a little less movement with the bars. Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA Author:The Colonel's Daughter $20 PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jayne Malueg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have looked at some WW trailers that weigh around 2,000 lbs. This is more than our horses (smaller Fjords)and in a good range for the truck to tow. I think you earlier mentioned that you were getting young Fjords? Be sure to allow for growth! They do tend to fill out Has anyone ever tried a Weight Distribution System for the trailer hitch? I've had some experience towing with small vehicles. We started out with a 1982 4-cylinder Toyota pickup (4WD, 2000-lb towing capacity), a small 2-horse trailer that claimed to have curb weight of 1500 lb, and a 400-lb donkey. This was all perfectly legal, and actually worked quite well, even in the steep mountains where we lived. The donkey eventually acquired a couple of Fjord friends (1100 and 900 lb), and the little pickup was starting to struggle when it was asked to pull both horses together. (We still got where we were going, just weren't setting any land speed records.) So, we upgraded---to a 1990 Toyota 4-Runner (again 4WD, V6, rated to tow 3500 lb). That put us back to legal again, and worked well. But then one of the Fjords decided he didn't like being shoe-horned into the small trailer, so we ended up getting a 2-horse slant-stock trailer (which I heartily recommend, for its versatility; I use mine slant-rear). Trouble is, that weighed 2600 lb, a great deal of which was tongue weight, and in crosswinds, it sometimes felt like the trailer was trying to wag the 4-Runner. That was when we added a weight-distributing hitch, which solved the squirrely feel of the trailer. As the 4-Runner aged, it became less able to haul that trailer around. Our most recent upgrade has been to a 2002 Toyota Tundra (still 4WD, V8, towing capacity 7000 lb). Man, what a difference! Now, my only problem towing on the freeway is keeping the rig under 70 mph! Bottom line---one can tow with too small vehicles, IF they are Toyotas. ;-) Given what my neighbor has said lately about his Dodge trucks, I don't think I'd want to try towing on the line with a small Dodge. And, a weight-distributing hitch is good insurance, no matter what you're towing with. Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon
Thanks for the truck and trailer help!
This message is from: Jayne Malueg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To summarize the concerns I would say that trailer weight, hills and stopping are the biggies. We have looked at some WW trailers that weigh around 2,000 lbs. This is more than our horses (smaller Fjords)and in a good range for the truck to tow. Hills are nearly a foreign word in this area. There is barely inclines much less real hills. We will likely haul to Northern WI, but only the last bit of that route has some rolling hills - still not very big. The truck and trailers we have looked at have brakes so that should be fine. I think we will need to be very alert and plan ahead in driving as suggested. We don't intend to travel in any high traffic, but one always needs to think of the unexpected. Has anyone ever tried a Weight Distribution System for the trailer hitch? These are rated very well, but I was wondering if any of you had experience with them. Thanks again, Jayne Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
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This message is from: Joanna Crell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ok truck hustler, glad david didn't read that post the keyboard would be all fulla saliva! so I told robyn to get with you, I lost her number under some pile here. She was telling me about a sort of green house structure to ride and drive in not too long ago. I'm curious. Yes I heard that sucking sound. I thought it was the sound of a vortex originating in the south, the epicenter being jesse helms. pulling out of new hampshire heading next to where lunacy truly has a stronghold.Every election year I pray that just a litlle bitty twister will touch down and lift up the most offensive of the gang,and whirl 'em around abunch, give them an awakening or maybe just take them away. but there are so many!! Mealy mouthed silver spooned snakes that make ordinary humans want to wreac some major havoc. You like Bill Bradley cause he's tall, I know it! what else could it be? He's kinda snippy don't you think? I was failing Algebra when the Knicks were on top. I can remember his game like it was yesterday. I was the only girl in a tutoring class and my buddies would share the paper with me cause they played hoop with my father BWM and brother bwb and some of their coolness helped my day go by easier.We used to laugh alot. You never really imagine that people who play games for a living will turn into presidents or anything. oh well. guess it pays to go to school. see you later, have a safe trip.Joanna === Joanna Crell - David Folger Willowind Therapeutic Riding Center Mt.Desert Island, Maine 04609 Phone FAX(207) 288-9506 http//www.willowind.org
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This message is from: Dave McWethy [EMAIL PROTECTED] If anyone is looking for a nice truck, you might want to talk to Pete Wells. He needs to sell this truck for reasons he says below. This truck has had infinite good care, and I think the price is attractive. I just got a 2000 Dodge diesel, my second, and think they're terrific. For Sale: 1998.5 Dodge 3500 1 ton pickup truck Cummins diesel 5.9 l, 24 valve ISB engine Quad Cab, long bed, 4x4, AT, 3.55 LSD rear Color: Brilliant white with Mist Gray cloth interior Factory options include: 4 wheel ABS Power drivers seat Power windows Power Door Locks Tow package Sliding rear window Air conditioning Cruise control AM FM Cassette with 4 speakers Full carpet and plush cloth upholstery Aftermarket options include: Turbo Boost Gauge and Transmission temperature gauges mounted on A pillar / Exhaust Gas Temperature gauge mounted on dash / PacBrake exhaust brake and torque converter lockup switch so you can get the most out of the exhaust brake / Mopar mud flaps front and rear / Smittybilt step bars / Tow bar with 1 7/8 ball / Factory service manual / Headlight wiring harness that isolates head light power from factory switch allowing use of higher power bulbs (100/80 installed) / Leer hard tonneau cover, Thick rubber bed mat / Turbo Life Saver circuit that allows truck to run from 1 to 5 minutes after removing the key and cool off the expensive turbo / ESPAR heater with two remotes and programmable console ($1800 option, installed) - this is a miniature oil burning furnace that preheats engine and cab. Can be used to preheat engine on cold starts where block heater plug in is unavailable, or to clear frost and snow from cab windows / Stainless steel fender trim / Hitch receiver mounted brake light / Heavy duty rubber floor mats, front and rear Gray chino seat covers, front and rear Extra oil and fuel filters Currently showing 31,600 miles and is in very good condition, inside and out. Covered under Dodge 36 month / 36,000 mile warranty Dodge 7 year / 75,000 mile transferable extended warranty Dodge 7 year / 100,000 mile engine warranty Asking price $28,000 Will consider delivery anywhere in US for traveling costs. And for the big question, if it's such a great truck, why am I selling it? Two years ago, I bought it with the intent of putting a Lance truck camper in the back and doing some traveling with my wife. As it made sense to buy the truck before we bought the camper, I went ahead and ordered what we thought we needed to do the job. Nine days after ordering the truck, my back went out on me and I was out of work. Having the money all set aside and fully expecting to return to work, when it came in, I went ahead and bought it. Two years later and two spinal fusions later, it doesn't appear I will ever be returning to work, and much as I love this truck, it doesn't make sense as a commuter vehicle for me. So if you, or anyone you know is interested, have them take a look. Carson Pete Wells 171 West Road Canterbury, NH 03224 (603) 783-4732 email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:34 PM 3/18/99 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi everyone - this is Nancy - think we have finally decided on getting a 3/4 ton chevy pickup truck - does any one have any opinions or short bed versus long bed with a gooseneck trailer? Thanks - can't wait till we have everything together and are mobile! The thing to watch out for with the short/long bed is the type of trailer your going to have. Some trailers require a long bed for the turning clearance to the cab. I am not sure if any of the common horse trailers are this way or not but I guess I would be looking at them first and talking to the trailer dealers before buying the truck. I know this is true for some 5th wheel camp type trailers. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi everyone - this is Nancy - think we have finally decided on getting a 3/4 ton chevy pickup truck - does any one have any opinions or short bed versus long bed with a gooseneck trailer? Thanks - can't wait till we have everything together and are mobile!
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This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good for you Nancy! Forget that F-150! You're right about it being mind boggling with all the truck and trailer choices out there. Like I said before, take your time and look around at what others are doing and when you go to look at trailers take your cart along if at all possible. Softouch makes a very nice aluminum trailer, that's what I have. Their workmanship is excellent. Good luck shopping! Laurie Pittman http://www.angelfire.com/wa/torshome
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This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave Smith Motors Hassle-Free Buying 1-800-635-8000 But no not call on a Saturday, they are too busy. They have DODGE, CHEVROLET, GMC They offer truck at the most unheard of prices Call them and see. Sure you have to fly in and pick up your truck... They will met you at the airport. But they will save you $$. I recommend DODGE if you can afford it. We have a 150 Ford and are leasing a Chevy and own a DODGE. We LOVE our DODGE. Diesel, dual wheels for hauling, 5 speed. Great to gear down steep hills. My wish list... the new 4 door ;o). I can WISH for a long time! ;o)
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This message is from: Paula Steinmetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also agree that a 150 is not enough truck! I just sold mine for some of the reasons the others have mentioned. Not enough power being the main reason - even with a 351 V8 and 3.55 rear end gearing - it was not enough truck for hauling over even the minor hills we have in this part of otherwise flat country. I would recommend at least a 250, and gas powered. Paula in somewhat warmer Wisconsin
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This message is from: Frederick J. (Fred) Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Nancy and Ernie, The other comments on the board, in reply to your question, are right on. I would especially emphasize the two vehicle. We use a Ford 250 with a BIG 460 cubic inch GAS engine. Fred Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, Washington USA you wrote: Hi - this is Nancy and Ernie from NH - we are in the market for getting our first truck and trailer - we want a trailer that would house both Sonnie and a meadowbrook carriage. We are thinking of getting a Ford F150 and a gooseneck 2 horse stock trailer. Does anyone have any suggestions about wether this combination is adequate. We would appreciate any info. Thanks everyone! Nancy
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This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda, I agree with Joe and Denise that you should get a bigger trailer. I often haul 2 horses and my cart and I had looked at a 3 horse trailer. I soon realized that it just wasn't enough. I can just about promise that you wouldn't be satisfied for long.Take your cart along if you can when looking at trailers so you can see how it fits. Also, it makes a big difference if you can remove the shafts for hauling. Get a ramp if you can, it makes loading so much easier! Good luck! Laurie Pittman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 4:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: Truck and trailer This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from Linda in Mn. We, too, are in the market for a trailer and plan to pull with an F-250. Am thinking of getting a three-horse trailer for two horses and a cart. I am not sure I am allowing enough room for the cart and two horses. Have looked at both the stock-type and the more enclosed type. What is a ramp tail?? Appreciate your comments about your trailer experiences.
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This message is from: Joe Denise Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps ramp tail is an inappropriate term. By that I meant that the back of the trailer is enclosed by a full width/full height swing door, behind which is a ramp (about 4' high) that closes up from the bottom of the trailer. When we open the trailer, first the ramp is released (with an Eberhart latch, which is the kind you see on the semi-trailers ... much more secure than just a pin or ordinary latch) and comes down to create a ramp from the road surface up into the trailer, then the big back door is released and swings open to allow entry into the trailer. Because of the ramp, its easy to roll wagons, carriages, forecarts, whatever up into the trailer. Our smaller trailer does not have a ramp, and I really don't think it makes a difference to the horses. They seem just as willing to step into a trailer as walk up a ramp. The ramp sure does help, though, in loading a wagon. Again, I think the bigger the trailer you can afford and feel comfortable handling, the more likely it will be adequate for you as your needs expand. We have been lucky to find GOOD used aluminum trailers. A word of caution about aluminum trailers though (from a metallurgical engineer); acid and aluminum don't mix. Most acids can eventually distroy the alumina layer that gives aluminum its corrosion resistance. One should frequently wash out the floors of aluminum trailers after use so that the urine and manure don't create a corrosion problem (if you see white power on aluminum, this is not good)
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from Linda in Mn. We, too, are in the market for a trailer and plan to pull with an F-250. Am thinking of getting a three-horse trailer for two horses and a cart. I am not sure I am allowing enough room for the cart and two horses. Have looked at both the stock-type and the more enclosed type. What is a ramp tail?? Appreciate your comments about your trailer experiences.
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This message is from: Laurie Pittman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 1:49 PM Subject: Truck and trailer This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi - this is Nancy and Ernie from NH - we are in the market for getting our first truck and trailer - we want a trailer that would house both Sonnie and a meadowbrook carriage. We are thinking of getting a Ford F150 and a gooseneck 2 horse stock trailer. Does anyone have any suggestions about wether this combination is adequate. We would appreciate any info. Thanks everyone! Nancy No! A 150 is not enough, it may seem ok at first but you will wear out the transmission, and you won't have enough power. Get at least an F-250 and one that is set up for towing. I towed with a 150 for a few years and thought it was ok, but I ended up having to get the transmission rebuilt. Then I went to a F-250 Trailer Special. It has 1 ton suspension, 1 ton brake system, and a heavy duty transmission, with a 460 engine. Now maybe you don't need that big of an engine, but I'd much rather has too much power than not enough! Also this tows so much better than a 150. Much more stable! This is a 78 model, by the way, not a fancy new truck that costs a fortune. I love this truck. I do agree with getting a gooseneck. I have one now and I'll never haul a bumper pull again if I can help it. I have a 4 horse gooseneck and I can get it in and out of places I would never take my 2 horse bumper pull. A gooseneck also tows much nicer. I'm not sure that a 2 horse trailer will work for you though. Being a stock trailer it might, but if you can, load your cart into it before you buy and see if it will fit and leave room for your horse. Personally I like to load my cart first, then the horses. That way if you ever get in a wreck, God forbid, you don't have to unload your cart to get to your horse. That was one thing that really bothered me about hauling with my 2 horse. I think I would look at a 3 horse trailer myself. I haven't looked at stock trailer in awhile, but if it opens up into the tack room you might be able to load the cart up front. Also, does it have a ramp? I avoided these for years thinking I didn't want or need one. But I got tired of dealing with boards to load my cart (I have to do all this by myself) so my new trailer also has a ramp. I love it! Wouldn't be without it. No problem with the horses either. I also added a stud divider to the center of the trailer. Sometimes I pack a lot of stuff in around the cart and this way if we had a wreck, none of the equipment would get to the horses. Well, this is all just my opinion, but I have been hauling for about 20 years, so I think I can speak from experience. There are lots of ways you can go with the type of trailer you get. Just put a lot of thought into what you really want and look around at what others have done. Just DON'T skimp on the truck!! Also, have you considered aluminum? Well worth it if you can. This is my 4th trailer and I wanted it to be my last so I got aluminum this time. Lasts longer, holds its value much better, and being lighter is easier on your truck. Didn't mean to get so long winded. Hope I was some help. Good luck! Laurie Pittman www.angelfire.com/wa/torshome
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This message is from: Joe Denise Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have had horses of various types and trailers to haul them for many years now. Currently, we have both bumper-pull and gooseneck trailers. Two are 4-Star trailers (one 22ft custom-built bumper-pull and - 28ft 6 horse gooseneck), one is a Gooseneck stock trailer, one is a Neckover bumper-pull stock trailer, with assorted others. The bumper-pulls are nice ... easier to hook up, but we generally just use them locally and use the goosenecks for longer hauls. I feel the goosenecks are safer on the roads at highway speeds. We have hauled horses all over the country with a number of runs up and down the AlCan highway between Montana and Alaska using both types. I wish we had started out with the trailers we now have. I do think the aluminum trailers are worth the money; less weight, easier to keep up, safer floors. We have used a Circle J steel and a Logan steel in the past ... they are nice too. Our preferred trailers are the 4-Stars. Because of the easy-going attitudes of the fjords, we do not use dividers in the big one and have put up to 8 horses in it. It is 8ft wide with the horse compartment 24ft long. The versatility is great. It has a ramp tail, so we can put 2 horses with a wagon or carriage in, or any number of horses in it. Our recommendation would be don't buy something too small. If you get something that is just adequate for your present needs, you'll probably be trading it in for a larger one soon. On the matter of the truck, I would not try to haul much with a half-ton of any type. We use a one-ton Ford with a flat-bed. It has a 7.3 liter diesel, which gives us the power, but when we get another truck it will be at least a 1.5 ton (F 450 to F 650). I have driven diesel powered trucks for many years and do like them, but our next will be a gas-powered. Some years ago (about 5, I think), the feds forced refiners to cut the sulfur content of diesel fuel. That might have helped the pollution, but it sure hurts the longevity of the engines. Sulfur provided the lubricity needed for the injector pumps. If you get a diesel and want it to last 150,000+ miles (and who wouldn't?), you'll need to put a lubricity additive into each tankful. Gets expensive and a bother. Good luck with your selection.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi - this is Nancy and Ernie from NH - we are in the market for getting our first truck and trailer - we want a trailer that would house both Sonnie and a meadowbrook carriage. We are thinking of getting a Ford F150 and a gooseneck 2 horse stock trailer. Does anyone have any suggestions about wether this combination is adequate. We would appreciate any info. Thanks everyone! Nancy
