[Flexradio] Wonder Radio

2008-07-07 Thread daves
ZS6AVM Wrote:

 

I spoke to a friend in VK (VK7ZE) on 20M yesterday, he mentioned that
he'd spoken to a Ham in the States who was using the Wonder Radio (1Watt
version driving a 100W PA)

The conditions were poor so I couldn't get the call of the State Side
Station he had mentioned

I was wondering if the Ham in question reads this Reflector, if so,
perhaps he could provide us with some feedback with regards his
impressions of the Wonder Radio

 

Regards

 

Dave J

(the only Flexer in Southern Africa, or perhaps even in Africa ??)


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[Flexradio] Transmitting on MARS frequencies

2008-07-07 Thread Charles Greene
GM,

How do I get Power SDR to transmit on MARS frequencies, 4032 KHZ USB, 
for example?

Chas, W1CG


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Re: [Flexradio] Transmitting on MARS frequencies

2008-07-07 Thread Ray, K9DUR
Chas,

It is not only PowerSDR, but also firmware in the Flex-5000 that limits
transmit frequencies.  It can be done, but you will need to contact
FlexRadio support to resolve this.

73, Ray, K9DUR



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Re: [Flexradio] Ham Radio Deluxe and PowerSDR/Flex5000A

2008-07-07 Thread David Beumer WA3FDB
I also tried to get the Eterlogic virtual com port to work with HRD and MixW
- it hung trying to connect with HRD and a gave a connection error with
MixW.

I'm using XP Pro SP3

Dave - WA3FDB

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Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Ham Radio Deluxe and PowerSDR/Flex5000A

Okay I spent some time trying to get Eterlogic virtual com port to work 
with HDR and PowerSDR. I couldn't get the HDR frequency display to update. 
It would get the initial freq from PowerSDR and freeze.

Hope someone can get this to work and educate the rest of us.

Art - KA4M


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[Flexradio] Future VHF/UHF transverter and RFIO versions

2008-07-07 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Hello Flexers,
 
I had a couple of customers who wanted to know if the planned future VHF/UHF
internal transverter requires the new HFRIO ASSY 34 board.  The answer is NO
unless you want to operate full duplex on satellites.  The ASSY 27 board
will work fine for normal half duplex operation.

Regards,
Gerald
 
Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
President
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Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-535-4713


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Re: [Flexradio] RX1 in/out issue with FLEX5000

2008-07-07 Thread Kevin Hartley
I too have a similar issue as Mike.  Mine is a 1070khz 25Kw station 3 miles
away, images of it showing up all over the dial on my brand new 5000A using
PwrSDR 1.12 (the version it shipped with).  Therefore I too am looking for a
RX1/2/loop solution.  If there¹s any others with the similar issues,  who¹ve
found a solution, it would be appreciated if you shared it.

I don¹t get this issue with my FT-9000, IC746 or JST-245 on the same
antenna.  Only my Flex 5000A w/ATU has thee AM BC signal images up  down
the dial...  Its my only complaint about the radio¹s RX.

Thanks! 
Kevin  VE7OVY


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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:01:25 -0500
From: Mike Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Flexradio] RX1 in/out issue with FLEX5000
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250

Hello to all,
 
I have an issue here with a 50KW AM BC station about 6 miles away. I have
IMD/spurs/carriers all the way up from 160M to past 20M. The signal strength
of the AM 640kc station is -3dbm on the flex meter and I have crud all over
hell's half acre up thru the bands...most are just above the QRN, but
sometimes not ;-)This AM powerhouse always mixes with another station
beating together on frequencies that show up across the bands.
 
I purchased a KIWA BCB reject filter and put it in the RX1/2 in/out loop and
use the antenna selection option to put this inline and it definitely knocks
down the 640kc AM 70db when the flex is in GEN mode tuned to 640kc. The
problem is that when the BCB filter is inline with RX1 loop, I have major
intermod all over the bands...on 20M I heard CHU this afternoon at 14.030,
+/- propagation and AM carriers all over the spectrum, some are S9+10 in DSB
mode on 20M. 
 
If I take the KIWA BCB reject filter and put it inline with the antenna in
any ANT1/2/3 port life is good...all the crud is gone, but I can't TX with
the KIWA BCB filter.
 
Anyone care to figure this one out? I know W9NQN TX/RX filters are an
option, but a $60 RX only should have worked IMHO.
 
Enjoy what's left of our holiday weekend!
 
Mike, K4EAR
 
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Frank Brickle
Jeff --

Is there any chance you have saved the original recordings as WAVEs,
including the source files? If so, can you post them as 48kHz
flac-compressed?

The mp3 encoding and then re-expansion to 44.1kHz rather than 48 introduce
an array of spectral distortions all on their own.

73 and thanks
Frank
AB2KT

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some friends of mine and I often meet on 80 meters to operate in
 wideband audio mode (4k to 5k audio) on SSB.  (Yes, I know that this
 isn't recommended operating practice,but we do it early in the evening
 before the band becomes occupied, so (hopefully) we aren't bothering
 anyone, and it sure does sound good.)  Anyway, there have been a few
 complaints about my audio.  I've been fighting this problem since
 January, and I've tried a number of things to improve the audio, but
 nothing has helped.  Neither Gerald nor John at Flex have had any luck
 replicating my problem - it seems I'm the only one experiencing it.

 Anyway - I'm at wit's end trying to figure out what the heck is going
 on, and so I thought I'd try the massive brain power on the reflector to
 see if anyone here might have any ideas.  I'm open to all suggestions!

 To get an idea of what I'm experiencing, you can go to my Blog.  The URL
 is:  http://k6jca.blogspot.com/

 There are three different audio tests.  If you could, please take a
 listen.  Is there distortion, or am I imagining things?  If you do hear
 distortion, any ideas of what to do?

 Suggestions, advice, and comments are welcome!  And by the way, if any
 of you run a Heil PR-40 directly into your Flex, what settings for TX EQ
 do you use?

 Thanks!

 - Jeff, k6jca



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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Lee A Crocker
I was tuning the low end of 75 the other night and came to the conclusion we 
replaced a empty CW band with an empty SSB band.  I think any activity is 
warranted.

73  W9OY



  
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Jeff Anderson
Hi Frank,

Thanks for the reply!  I can probably post any sort of format, but you 
may have to help me out a bit - I don't know what flac-compression is.

The original Flex WAV files (recorded at 96 ksps) are on the order of 10 
MB each.  To get them down to a reasonable size and to record two files 
side-by-side (because it makes comparisons much easier), I played both 
back (using the Playback feature of the Flex WAVE tab) through the 
Edirol FA66 on one of my SDR-1000's.  I connected the FA66's analog 
output to the analog input of my Delta-44 on the computer I use with my 
other SDR-1000 (via a patch cable), and I recorded them using the free 
version of Audacity.  The record sample rate was set to 44.1 KHz.

I then used Audacity to edit out some of the silence time between the 
two recordings, and I converted the file to an MP3 using their 
recommended mp3 plug-in.

Audacity can also export as a WAV file (although I've never tried this), 
and I can change its sample rate to 48K.  Would something like this be 
acceptable?  (And is flac-compression an option for WAV file generation?)

Or I could post the original Flex WAV files - zipping them up will 
reduce their size somewhat, but they'll still be HUGE.  The advantage, 
though, is that there won't be any distortion introduced by this 
process, and anyone can listen to them (as long as they have a Flex 
radio) in their full, 96 ksps glory.

By the way - I should mention that the mp3 files that I posted sound 
surprisingly similar to the original files (to me at least - I can't 
tell any difference), but I'd be happy to try something else.

Thanks again, and 73!

- Jeff, k6jca

P.S.  I'll be away from the computer for awhile.  Will hope to respond 
later this evening...

Frank Brickle wrote:
 Jeff --

 Is there any chance you have saved the original recordings as WAVEs, 
 including the source files? If so, can you post them as 48kHz 
 flac-compressed?

 The mp3 encoding and then re-expansion to 44.1kHz rather than 48 
 introduce an array of spectral distortions all on their own.

 73 and thanks
 Frank
 AB2KT

 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some friends of mine and I often meet on 80 meters to operate in
 wideband audio mode (4k to 5k audio) on SSB.  (Yes, I know that this
 isn't recommended operating practice,but we do it early in the evening
 before the band becomes occupied, so (hopefully) we aren't bothering
 anyone, and it sure does sound good.)  Anyway, there have been a few
 complaints about my audio.  I've been fighting this problem since
 January, and I've tried a number of things to improve the audio, but
 nothing has helped.  Neither Gerald nor John at Flex have had any luck
 replicating my problem - it seems I'm the only one experiencing it.

 Anyway - I'm at wit's end trying to figure out what the heck is going
 on, and so I thought I'd try the massive brain power on the
 reflector to
 see if anyone here might have any ideas.  I'm open to all suggestions!

 To get an idea of what I'm experiencing, you can go to my Blog.
  The URL
 is:  http://k6jca.blogspot.com/

 There are three different audio tests.  If you could, please take a
 listen.  Is there distortion, or am I imagining things?  If you do
 hear
 distortion, any ideas of what to do?

 Suggestions, advice, and comments are welcome!  And by the way, if any
 of you run a Heil PR-40 directly into your Flex, what settings for
 TX EQ
 do you use?

 Thanks!

 - Jeff, k6jca



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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Edwin Marzan

Hi Jeff,
 
I've heard another flex 5000 user sound like that. It has almost a digital 
processed type sound. A group of Flexers in my area use W2IHY Boxes for better 
sound, especially with the PR40 although personally I don't feel that hardware 
should be required to make a software radio sound better.
 
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread n1dz
I am using the SDR1000 remotely. Made both cw and voice qsos. The delay is less 
than 1 second and the audio sounds slightly distorted with an occasional drop 
out.
Pc anywhere and skype. Using VAC to handle the connections.
73 Maarten n1dz

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Date:  Mon Jul 7, 2008 1:32 pm
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Hi Frank,



Thanks for the reply!  I can probably post any sort of format, but you 

may have to help me out a bit - I don't know what flac-compression is.



The original Flex WAV files (recorded at 96 ksps) are on the order of 10 

MB each.  To get them down to a reasonable size and to record two files 

side-by-side (because it makes comparisons much easier), I played both 

back (using the Playback feature of the Flex WAVE tab) through the 

Edirol FA66 on one of my SDR-1000's.  I connected the FA66's analog 

output to the analog input of my Delta-44 on the computer I use with my 

other SDR-1000 (via a patch cable), and I recorded them using the free 

version of Audacity.  The record sample rate was set to 44.1 KHz.



I then used Audacity to edit out some of the silence time between the 

two recordings, and I converted the file to an MP3 using their 

recommended mp3 plug-in.



Audacity can also export as a WAV file (although I've never tried this), 

and I can change its sample rate to 48K.  Would something like this be 

acceptable?  (And is flac-compression an option for WAV file generation?)



Or I could post the original Flex WAV files - zipping them up will 

reduce their size somewhat, but they'll still be HUGE.  The advantage, 

though, is that there won't be any distortion introduced by this 

process, and anyone can listen to them (as long as they have a Flex 

radio) in their full, 96 ksps glory.



By the way - I should mention that the mp3 files that I posted sound 

surprisingly similar to the original files (to me at least - I can't 

tell any difference), but I'd be happy to try something else.



Thanks again, and 73!



- Jeff, k6jca



P.S.  I'll be away from the computer for awhile.  Will hope to respond 

later this evening...



Frank Brickle wrote:

 Jeff --



 Is there any chance you have saved the original recordings as WAVEs, 

 including the source files? If so, can you post them as 48kHz 

 flac-compressed?



 The mp3 encoding and then re-expansion to 44.1kHz rather than 48 

 introduce an array of spectral distortions all on their own.



 73 and thanks

 Frank

 AB2KT



 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Some friends of mine and I often meet on 80 meters to operate in

 wideband audio mode (4k to 5k audio) on SSB.  (Yes, I know that this

 isn't recommended operating practice,but we do it early in the evening

 before the band becomes occupied, so (hopefully) we aren't bothering

 anyone, and it sure does sound good.)  Anyway, there have been a few

 complaints about my audio.  I've been fighting this problem since

 January, and I've tried a number of things to improve the audio, but

 nothing has helped.  Neither Gerald nor John at Flex have had any luck

 replicating my problem - it seems I'm the only one experiencing it.



 Anyway - I'm at wit's end trying to figure out what the heck is going

 on, and so I thought I'd try the massive brain power on the

 reflector to

 see if anyone here might have any ideas.  I'm open to all suggestions!



 To get an idea of what I'm experiencing, you can go to my Blog.

  The URL

 is:  http://k6jca.blogspot.com/



 There are three different audio tests.  If you could, please take a

 listen.  Is there distortion, or am I imagining things?  If you do

 hear

 distortion, any ideas of what to do?



 Suggestions, advice, and comments are welcome!  And by the way, if any

 of you run a Heil PR-40 directly into your Flex, what settings for

 TX EQ

 do you use?





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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread k5nwa
At 12:27 PM 7/7/2008, you wrote:
I was tuning the low end of 75 the other night and came to the 
conclusion we replaced a empty CW band with an empty SSB band.  I 
think any activity is warranted.

73  W9OY

I have always wondered when I read articles talking about crowded 
conditions on 75M, my experience from the central part of the country 
is that while there are usually quite a few QSO's and nets going on 
for the most part the band is mostly empty space.


Cecil
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000A in Tulsa, Oklahoma area

2008-07-07 Thread Jimmy Jones
Look Up W5KO


On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 17:27 +, Gary - W7FG wrote:

 By chance anyone in the Tulsa area (NE Oklahoma) using a 5000A and 
 willing to show it off?
 
 Gary - W7FG
 918-333-7893
 
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Jimmy Jones
Are you talking about the distortion that's inherent in the 5000 ? 
I've heard that it's a problem with the DAC in the soundcard.
I don't believe the 5000 will be an audio aficionados radio in it's
present state. 

The 1000 doesn't seem to have this problem (at least not with the
firebox or fa66)
I've seen guys with 1000's run computer mics and make them sound like a
million bucks.
You can't do that with the 5000.



On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 08:42 -0700, Jeff Anderson wrote:

 Some friends of mine and I often meet on 80 meters to operate in 
 wideband audio mode (4k to 5k audio) on SSB.  (Yes, I know that this 
 isn't recommended operating practice,but we do it early in the evening 
 before the band becomes occupied, so (hopefully) we aren't bothering 
 anyone, and it sure does sound good.)  Anyway, there have been a few 
 complaints about my audio.  I've been fighting this problem since 
 January, and I've tried a number of things to improve the audio, but 
 nothing has helped.  Neither Gerald nor John at Flex have had any luck 
 replicating my problem - it seems I'm the only one experiencing it.
 
 Anyway - I'm at wit's end trying to figure out what the heck is going 
 on, and so I thought I'd try the massive brain power on the reflector to 
 see if anyone here might have any ideas.  I'm open to all suggestions!
 
 To get an idea of what I'm experiencing, you can go to my Blog.  The URL 
 is:  http://k6jca.blogspot.com/
 
 There are three different audio tests.  If you could, please take a 
 listen.  Is there distortion, or am I imagining things?  If you do hear 
 distortion, any ideas of what to do?
 
 Suggestions, advice, and comments are welcome!  And by the way, if any 
 of you run a Heil PR-40 directly into your Flex, what settings for TX EQ 
 do you use?
 
 Thanks!
 
 - Jeff, k6jca
 
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Bob McGwier
http://flac.sourceforge.net/

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Member: ARRL, AMSAT, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats,
NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC.
Trample the slow   Hurdle the dead


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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:31 PM
To: Frank Brickle
Cc: Reflector Flex-Radio
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the reply!  I can probably post any sort of format, but you 
may have to help me out a bit - I don't know what flac-compression is.



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Re: [Flexradio] [OT] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Thompson_Peter
Here in the NE my experience has been that trying to organize a Sat
evening SSB sked in anywhere but the extra portion of the 75m phone band
is extremely difficult.  I love the 'extra' space we now have down at
3600 - plenty of room there.  Of course I have to work on a few of my
friends to upgrade otherwise I have to put my panadapter to work to find
a vacant spot in the General portion of the band.  On more than one
occasion recently there was no room!

Pete, N3EVL

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 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:02 PM
 To: Flex Radio
 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!
 
 At 12:27 PM 7/7/2008, you wrote:
 I was tuning the low end of 75 the other night and came to the
 conclusion we replaced a empty CW band with an empty SSB band.  I
 think any activity is warranted.
 
 73  W9OY
 
 I have always wondered when I read articles talking about crowded
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Dale Boresz
I completely disagree. I have both radios, and the TX from both sounds 
superb using the Behringer UB-802 as a mic preamp only (no EQ) into the 
Line In on the 5K, and the Heil PR-40, with the EQ handled by PowerSDR.

A few seconds listening to John, W5GI on his FLEX-5000 might convince you...

73, Dale
WA8SRA


Jimmy Jones wrote:
 Are you talking about the distortion that's inherent in the 5000 ? 
 I've heard that it's a problem with the DAC in the soundcard.
 I don't believe the 5000 will be an audio aficionados radio in it's
 present state. 

 The 1000 doesn't seem to have this problem (at least not with the
 firebox or fa66)
 I've seen guys with 1000's run computer mics and make them sound like a
 million bucks.
 You can't do that with the 5000.



 On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 08:42 -0700, Jeff Anderson wrote:

   
 Some friends of mine and I often meet on 80 meters to operate in 
 wideband audio mode (4k to 5k audio) on SSB.  (Yes, I know that this 
 isn't recommended operating practice,but we do it early in the evening 
 before the band becomes occupied, so (hopefully) we aren't bothering 
 anyone, and it sure does sound good.)  Anyway, there have been a few 
 complaints about my audio.  I've been fighting this problem since 
 January, and I've tried a number of things to improve the audio, but 
 nothing has helped.  Neither Gerald nor John at Flex have had any luck 
 replicating my problem - it seems I'm the only one experiencing it.

 Anyway - I'm at wit's end trying to figure out what the heck is going 
 on, and so I thought I'd try the massive brain power on the reflector to 
 see if anyone here might have any ideas.  I'm open to all suggestions!

 To get an idea of what I'm experiencing, you can go to my Blog.  The URL 
 is:  http://k6jca.blogspot.com/

 There are three different audio tests.  If you could, please take a 
 listen.  Is there distortion, or am I imagining things?  If you do hear 
 distortion, any ideas of what to do?

 Suggestions, advice, and comments are welcome!  And by the way, if any 
 of you run a Heil PR-40 directly into your Flex, what settings for TX EQ 
 do you use?

 Thanks!

 - Jeff, k6jca



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[Flexradio] 5000A Radio Hangs Up

2008-07-07 Thread Dave Agsten
I've run into an issue where PowerSDR hangs up when I open another window on my 
PC. For example, if I open Yahoo mail and read an e-mail, the radio goes silent 
and I have to stop PowerSDR and start it to operate. As soon as I do anything 
with a mail message again, it does the same thing. This did not happen with the 
the version prior to 1.12.0. Any suggestions?

Tnx es 73,
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Re: [Flexradio] 5000A Radio Hangs Up

2008-07-07 Thread Tim Ellison
Yep, don't check you mail, you should be playing radio :-)

If your Firewire driver is not in Safe Mode 1, change it to SM1.

I have this problem with MS Outlook.  For some unknown reason, it is 
responsible for some hardware generating a lot of high latency DPCs.  There 
were some things I did that helped some, they are:

1.) Updated the video driver.
2.) Updated the NIC driver (it may be in your chipset driver package if it is 
on the mother board)

If you are using a laptop and/or Vista, the problems can be worse.

PowerSDR v1.12.0 is more CPU intensive especially if you have an RX2 installed 
which is probably why you are seeing the problems now.

BTW, my opening statement also has a bit of truth in it.  I don't run Outlook 
anymore when running PowerSDR with an RX2 even though my CPU utilization is 
well below 20% on a multi-core Intel CPU running XP.  Go figure.


-Tim

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To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] 5000A Radio Hangs Up

I've run into an issue where PowerSDR hangs up when I open another window on my 
PC. For example, if I open Yahoo mail and read an e-mail, the radio goes silent 
and I have to stop PowerSDR and start it to operate. As soon as I do anything 
with a mail message again, it does the same thing. This did not happen with the 
the version prior to 1.12.0. Any suggestions?

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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Dale Boresz
Jimmy,

I've used both the Delta-44 and the FA-66 with the 1000. As for the 5K, 
I can only judge by the ones I've heard on the air and my own, and 
whether I use a PR-40 or an HC5 cartridge, it sounds very good, with no 
trace of audible distortion. I listened to Jeff's recording and I agree 
that the second half of the recording sounds quite bad. I'm only saying 
that I have not heard that on the air, and certainly haven't heard it 
from my 5K. For that reason, I wouldn't expect that the problem is due 
to any inherent shortcoming in the DAC, or all FLEX-5000's would sound 
that way, and they do not.

Regarding the monitoring setup, I've used the Icom 746PRO set to it's 
3.6K 'Sharp' bandwidth, while monitoring the audio from the rear panel 
(cleaner and wider bandwidth than the headphone jack) with several pairs 
of headphones, including (at various times) the following models:
Beyerdynamic DT-880
Beyerdynamic DT-990
Grado Labs SR125
Grado Labs SR325

The monitored audio has been very clean with all of them, with no change 
in character regardless of whether I run 1 watt or 100 watts.

I'd be happy to set up a sked sometime to run some comparative tests.

73, Dale
WA8SRA





Jimmy Jones wrote:
 It's certainly your right to disagree Dale but I've heard the same 
 comments from two of the best ears that I know. If they say it's 
 distorted you can bet the house on it that it is. I'm talking about 
 guys that tell me when I'm a 1/2 cycle off frequency and nitpick like 
 that. I hear this same distortion in the 5000 too and my ears are 
 terrible. I don't see it as a show stopper but it isn't flex perfect 
 like it should be.
 I've seen several guys struggle to get the 5000 sounding decent (and 
 they did eventually)

 The SDR 1000 on the other hand is no struggle at all to get sounding 
 good and it doesn't have that weird distortion like the 5000.
 The guys that I've talked to on the 5000 that sounded good were 
 running very ,very expensive mics. The guys running Heil mics had 
 typical communications sounding audio and you could no doubt hear the 
 distortion.
 The 1000 doesn't really care. Most any mic sounds good on the 1000.

 You didn't say what sound card you were running with your 1000 Dale?


 On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 16:03 -0400, Dale Boresz wrote:
 I completely disagree. I have both radios, and the TX from both sounds 
 superb using the Behringer UB-802 as a mic preamp only (no EQ) into the 
 Line In on the 5K, and the Heil PR-40, with the EQ handled by PowerSDR.

 A few seconds listening to John, W5GI on his FLEX-5000 might convince you...

 73, Dale
 WA8SRA


 Jimmy Jones wrote:
  Are you talking about the distortion that's inherent in the 5000 ? 
  I've heard that it's a problem with the DAC in the soundcard.
  I don't believe the 5000 will be an audio aficionados radio in it's
  present state. 
 
  The 1000 doesn't seem to have this problem (at least not with the
  firebox or fa66)
  I've seen guys with 1000's run computer mics and make them sound like a
  million bucks.
  You can't do that with the 5000.
 
 
 
  On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 08:42 -0700, Jeff Anderson wrote:
 

  Some friends of mine and I often meet on 80 meters to operate in 
  wideband audio mode (4k to 5k audio) on SSB.  (Yes, I know that this 
  isn't recommended operating practice,but we do it early in the evening 
  before the band becomes occupied, so (hopefully) we aren't bothering 
  anyone, and it sure does sound good.)  Anyway, there have been a few 
  complaints about my audio.  I've been fighting this problem since 
  January, and I've tried a number of things to improve the audio, but 
  nothing has helped.  Neither Gerald nor John at Flex have had any luck 
  replicating my problem - it seems I'm the only one experiencing it.
 
  Anyway - I'm at wit's end trying to figure out what the heck is going 
  on, and so I thought I'd try the massive brain power on the reflector to 
  see if anyone here might have any ideas.  I'm open to all suggestions!
 
  To get an idea of what I'm experiencing, you can go to my Blog.  The URL 
  is:  http://k6jca.blogspot.com/
 
  There are three different audio tests.  If you could, please take a 
  listen.  Is there distortion, or am I imagining things?  If you do hear 
  distortion, any ideas of what to do?
 
  Suggestions, advice, and comments are welcome!  And by the way, if any 
  of you run a Heil PR-40 directly into your Flex, what settings for TX EQ 
  do you use?
 
  Thanks!
 
  - Jeff, k6jca
 
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
Jeff, a couple questions.
What version of the code are you running? Have you tried different versions
to see if it affects the sound?
If you back off the mike gain does it still sound grainy?
Are you feeding the 5000 output into a dummy load for your recording?
Have you tried it on a different band to see if it's RF?
The third recording sounds slightly better then the first two when you back
away from the mic.
My 1KSDR had this problem until I added an EQplus in front of it. Working
with Julius (W2IHY), I knew this was RF but I couldn't get rid of it. Maybe
I didn't have the correct ferrite beads or bypassing. But adding the EQplus
fixed it for me.
I also use a PR40 and my shack is directly under my W5GI antenna.
As a side note, if you are ever looking for software to measure THD, I use
the following from www.ymec.com. They have a 30 trial that you could measure
THD with. Since this is amateur equipment and not commercial grade I have
not done this with my radio gear but I might be a fun test.

Jerry, WB0UZW




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Anderson
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:43 AM
To: Reflector Flex-Radio
Subject: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

Some friends of mine and I often meet on 80 meters to operate in 
wideband audio mode (4k to 5k audio) on SSB.  (Yes, I know that this 
isn't recommended operating practice,but we do it early in the evening 
before the band becomes occupied, so (hopefully) we aren't bothering 
anyone, and it sure does sound good.)  Anyway, there have been a few 
complaints about my audio.  I've been fighting this problem since 
January, and I've tried a number of things to improve the audio, but 
nothing has helped.  Neither Gerald nor John at Flex have had any luck 
replicating my problem - it seems I'm the only one experiencing it.

Anyway - I'm at wit's end trying to figure out what the heck is going 
on, and so I thought I'd try the massive brain power on the reflector to 
see if anyone here might have any ideas.  I'm open to all suggestions!

To get an idea of what I'm experiencing, you can go to my Blog.  The URL 
is:  http://k6jca.blogspot.com/

There are three different audio tests.  If you could, please take a 
listen.  Is there distortion, or am I imagining things?  If you do hear 
distortion, any ideas of what to do?

Suggestions, advice, and comments are welcome!  And by the way, if any 
of you run a Heil PR-40 directly into your Flex, what settings for TX EQ 
do you use?

Thanks!

- Jeff, k6jca



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Re: [Flexradio] 5000A Radio Hangs Up

2008-07-07 Thread Neal Campbell
I know this might not be feasible to a lot of people but I keep my
shack computer for solely ham radio activities and use other computers
for email, development, etc. How is the best way to do this? Buy a KVM
switch (keyboard, video, mouse) so you can switch from one computer to
the other with the touch of a button or keyboard command. At Casa del
Crappo I use a triple monitor setup with two of the monitors
switchable between three different computers.

73
Neal

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep, don't check you mail, you should be playing radio :-)

 If your Firewire driver is not in Safe Mode 1, change it to SM1.

 I have this problem with MS Outlook.  For some unknown reason, it is 
 responsible for some hardware generating a lot of high latency DPCs.  There 
 were some things I did that helped some, they are:

 1.) Updated the video driver.
 2.) Updated the NIC driver (it may be in your chipset driver package if it is 
 on the mother board)

 If you are using a laptop and/or Vista, the problems can be worse.

 PowerSDR v1.12.0 is more CPU intensive especially if you have an RX2 
 installed which is probably why you are seeing the problems now.

 BTW, my opening statement also has a bit of truth in it.  I don't run Outlook 
 anymore when running PowerSDR with an RX2 even though my CPU utilization is 
 well below 20% on a multi-core Intel CPU running XP.  Go figure.


 -Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Agsten
 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 6:44 PM
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] 5000A Radio Hangs Up

 I've run into an issue where PowerSDR hangs up when I open another window on 
 my PC. For example, if I open Yahoo mail and read an e-mail, the radio goes 
 silent and I have to stop PowerSDR and start it to operate. As soon as I do 
 anything with a mail message again, it does the same thing. This did not 
 happen with the the version prior to 1.12.0. Any suggestions?

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Re: [Flexradio] 5000A Radio Hangs Up

2008-07-07 Thread Bob Maser
If you decide to use a KVM, I've been using one for about 2 years and it 
really works great.  I have about 6 of them left that I'm not going to need. 
$20 each plus some help on the shipping but you will need to find the 
cables. Needs no outboard power.   My KVM is for 2 computers sharing 1 each 
Keyboard, Video monitor, Mouse.  Made by Cybex SwitchView.

Bob  W6TR
- Original Message - 
From: Neal Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] 5000A Radio Hangs Up


I know this might not be feasible to a lot of people but I keep my
 shack computer for solely ham radio activities and use other computers
 for email, development, etc. How is the best way to do this? Buy a KVM
 switch (keyboard, video, mouse) so you can switch from one computer to
 the other with the touch of a button or keyboard command. At Casa del
 Crappo I use a triple monitor setup with two of the monitors
 switchable between three different computers.

 73
 Neal

 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Tim Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep, don't check you mail, you should be playing radio :-)

 If your Firewire driver is not in Safe Mode 1, change it to SM1.

 I have this problem with MS Outlook.  For some unknown reason, it is 
 responsible for some hardware generating a lot of high latency DPCs. 
 There were some things I did that helped some, they are:

 1.) Updated the video driver.
 2.) Updated the NIC driver (it may be in your chipset driver package if 
 it is on the mother board)

 If you are using a laptop and/or Vista, the problems can be worse.

 PowerSDR v1.12.0 is more CPU intensive especially if you have an RX2 
 installed which is probably why you are seeing the problems now.

 BTW, my opening statement also has a bit of truth in it.  I don't run 
 Outlook anymore when running PowerSDR with an RX2 even though my CPU 
 utilization is well below 20% on a multi-core Intel CPU running XP.  Go 
 figure.


 -Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Agsten
 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 6:44 PM
 To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
 Subject: [Flexradio] 5000A Radio Hangs Up

 I've run into an issue where PowerSDR hangs up when I open another window 
 on my PC. For example, if I open Yahoo mail and read an e-mail, the radio 
 goes silent and I have to stop PowerSDR and start it to operate. As soon 
 as I do anything with a mail message again, it does the same thing. This 
 did not happen with the the version prior to 1.12.0. Any suggestions?

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[Flexradio] HamScope and TTY with VAC

2008-07-07 Thread Dennis Petrich
Dear Abby,

I'm not hearing voices anymore when monitoring PSK31 thanks to you-alls 
comments yesterday.  But I have one more problem I'll need you-alls help to 
solve

I'm using HamScope with MMTTY's RTTY engine and when I select RTTY in HamScope 
the signal goes away (the tace in the Hamscope window goes flat-line).  Looks 
like the Virtual Audio Cable connection gets broken every time I select RTTY.  
If I select any other mode everything works just fine...so what am I doing 
wrong?  

I noticed HamScope software allows you to make VAC connections but the MMTTY 
engine I saw doesn't?  Hope this isn't one of those catch 22's?

Thanks in advance for your help, Dennis, k0eoo
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Jeff Anderson
Thanks to everyone for their replies and suggestions.

To answer some of the questions I've received...

1.  I've run IMD tests on both the 1K and the 5K and at various powers 
(3 dB steps).

2.  The problem seems to be independent of code version.

3.  All tests are made into a dummy load.

4.  The PR-40 is connected directly to the Balanced Line In of the 5K.

5.  I don't run the compandor or compressor.  And I keep the mic signal 
below 0 dB.

6.  I don't believe it's a problem with mic gain, or rf feedback into 
the mic, or something else in the input stages.  I believe that my third 
recording (the July 6 recording) bears out this conclusion.  If I listen 
to the signal at the TX Driver output, it sounds fine to me - if there 
was any sort of problem with the mic (gain or rf feedback, etc.) you'd 
hear it here, too, because we're well past the mic input circuits.  But 
I don't hear any noticable distortion at this stage.  It's only after 
the *next* stage in the TX chain, at the PA output, that I hear the 
distortion - that is, the second half of the third recording (this 
audible distortion correlates well with the differences between driver 
stage IMD and final stage IMD).

Why do I have a problem and others (such as Dale) don't?  Is there 
something wrong with the way I'm testing this?  Is there something in my 
voice timbre that's not in other voices and that exacerbates this 
problem?  Is it something else?  I've no idea.  Dale sent a screenshot 
of his eq settings.  I'll give these a try tomorrow...

Keep those suggestions coming!  Thanks again for your help, and 73,

- Jeff, k6jca



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Re: [Flexradio] HamScope and TTY with VAC

2008-07-07 Thread Tim Ellison
One note when setting up VAC as your default Windows sound card, disable ALL 
windows sounds or you will be QRMing the world with dings, beeps and burps that 
Windoze makes if you are transmitting when Windoze wants to make its own sounds 
at the same time.

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000923.htm


-Tim

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To: 'Dennis Petrich'
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Subject: Re: [Flexradio] HamScope and TTY with VAC

Dennis:

There is a detailed write up on how to hook things up under VAC in the 
knowledge data, which has a search engine.

MMSSTV, MMTTY, etc. have a less than flexible sound system interface.
Typically the only way to use it is to set VAC Cable 1 as the system default 
record channel and VAC Cable 2 as the system default playback channel in the 
control panel sound control page.  You then connect MMTTY or MMSSTV to the 
default sound device and connect PowerSDR to the alternative ends in the VAC 
control panel in it.

Bob
N4HY


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Member: ARRL, AMSAT, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC.
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Petrich
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:58 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] HamScope and TTY with VAC

Dear Abby,

I'm not hearing voices anymore when monitoring PSK31 thanks to you-alls 
comments yesterday.  But I have one more problem I'll need you-alls help to 
solve

I'm using HamScope with MMTTY's RTTY engine and when I select RTTY in HamScope 
the signal goes away (the tace in the Hamscope window goes flat-line).  Looks 
like the Virtual Audio Cable connection gets broken every time I select RTTY.  
If I select any other mode everything works just fine...so what am I doing 
wrong?

I noticed HamScope software allows you to make VAC connections but the MMTTY 
engine I saw doesn't?  Hope this isn't one of those catch 22's?

Thanks in advance for your help, Dennis, k0eoo 
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Frank Brickle
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

5.  I don't run the compandor or compressor.  And I keep the mic signal
 below 0 dB.


Regardless, there's about 6dB of compression on the distorted versions, in
all three runs. It's impossible to miss if you look at spectrograms of
corresponding high-amplitude vowel segments in each half.

That is *not* present on a typical F5K, and you can be sure it has nothing
to do with the D/A/D components.

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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Dale Boresz
Jeff,

FWIW, I was never able to make the balanced input work with my PR-40. I 
always ended up with extra grunge in the audio. When I use the standard 
microphone input on the front panel it worked much better, but the 
arrangement that produces the best audio for me is to use the Line In 
jack on the rear panel in conjunction with a mic preamp. I like the idea 
of driving the radio with a larger amplitude low source impedance than 
with a higher impedance very small signal (like the direct output of the 
microphone).

Dale


Jeff Anderson wrote:
 Thanks to everyone for their replies and suggestions.

 To answer some of the questions I've received...

 1.  I've run IMD tests on both the 1K and the 5K and at various powers 
 (3 dB steps).

 2.  The problem seems to be independent of code version.

 3.  All tests are made into a dummy load.

 4.  The PR-40 is connected directly to the Balanced Line In of the 5K.

 5.  I don't run the compandor or compressor.  And I keep the mic signal 
 below 0 dB.

 6.  I don't believe it's a problem with mic gain, or rf feedback into 
 the mic, or something else in the input stages.  I believe that my third 
 recording (the July 6 recording) bears out this conclusion.  If I listen 
 to the signal at the TX Driver output, it sounds fine to me - if there 
 was any sort of problem with the mic (gain or rf feedback, etc.) you'd 
 hear it here, too, because we're well past the mic input circuits.  But 
 I don't hear any noticable distortion at this stage.  It's only after 
 the *next* stage in the TX chain, at the PA output, that I hear the 
 distortion - that is, the second half of the third recording (this 
 audible distortion correlates well with the differences between driver 
 stage IMD and final stage IMD).

 Why do I have a problem and others (such as Dale) don't?  Is there 
 something wrong with the way I'm testing this?  Is there something in my 
 voice timbre that's not in other voices and that exacerbates this 
 problem?  Is it something else?  I've no idea.  Dale sent a screenshot 
 of his eq settings.  I'll give these a try tomorrow...

 Keep those suggestions coming!  Thanks again for your help, and 73,

 - Jeff, k6jca



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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Jeff Anderson
To answer some recent questions...

Frank, I agree, I'm sure the distortion is not in the ADC/DAC components 
(nor software, nor input stages) either, because I don't hear it at the 
5K PA's *driver stage* output, which is well after the output DAC (ref: 
1st half of 6 July recording).  The problem only pops up at the output 
of the *final* stage.

And this is why (per Dale's comment) I don't think it's a problem with 
the balanced line input.  If this input was causing the audio to sound 
grundgy, then I'd expect to hear it at the PA Driver stage, too (1st 
half of 6 July recording).  But I don't.  (But maybe I'm missing 
something really obvious, or doing something wrong.  Suggestions?).

Per Jim - this 5K (my second one) is right out of the box, and I didn't 
recal PA bias (I shouldn't have to, right?).  By the way, I had this 
exact same problem with my first 5K, too, and I could not fix the 
problem despite numerous bias recalibrations as well as experiments with 
various bias settings, so I'm skeptical that recalibrating bias will 
have any appreciable effect.  Still, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try.  
I'll try to get to this tomorrow.

Thanks again!

- Jeff


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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Frank Brickle
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Frank, I agree, I'm sure the distortion is not in the ADC/DAC components
 (nor software, nor input stages) either, because I don't hear it at the
 5K PA's *driver stage* output, which is well after the output DAC (ref:
 1st half of 6 July recording).  The problem only pops up at the output
 of the *final* stage.


What's peculiar about the compression is that it's soft, not clipped. You
have to wonder about the leveler settings.

73
Frank
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Re: [Flexradio] TX Audio Quality Help, please!

2008-07-07 Thread Jeff Anderson
I agree, it's peculiar.  But again - if it's a leveler issue (i.e. 
software) I'd expect to hear it at the PA driver, too.  But I don't (but 
perhaps others do?  Ref:  1st half of 6 July test).  By the way, I just 
checked, and the Leveler has been OFF (box not checked) for all of my 
tests.  The only TX effect I have enabled is TX EQ, which is set to the 
same EQ values for all of my tests.

What I wonder is this:  can distortion at RF (rather than at AF) have 
this same soft compression effect, after the RF is demodulated? 

- Jeff

Frank Brickle wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Jeff Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

 Frank, I agree, I'm sure the distortion is not in the ADC/DAC
 components
 (nor software, nor input stages) either, because I don't hear it
 at the
 5K PA's *driver stage* output, which is well after the output DAC
 (ref:
 1st half of 6 July recording).  The problem only pops up at the output
 of the *final* stage.


 What's peculiar about the compression is that it's soft, not 
 clipped. You have to wonder about the leveler settings.

 73
 Frank
 AB2KT

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