Re: [Flexradio] Dual Monitor Video Card issue for Power SDR v2.0.16

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Steve,

I purchased this card  at Fry's Electronics in Phoenix for about $50 ($80 with 
a 
$30 mail-in rebate).  It is a very good card -- for the money it is an 
excellent 
card.

BTW, this card with an ASUS M4A87TD EVO MB, an AMD Athlon X4 650 CPU and 4 Gig 
of decent memory scores just under 1500 on the Passmark performance test.

73,

Dan N4XWE





From: Neal Campbell 
To: Steve Floyd 
Cc: Flex Radio 
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 2:22:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Dual Monitor Video Card issue for Power SDR v2.0.16

Hi Steve

Depending on the resolution of the two monitors, you are probably pushing
that card's envelope.

I really like AMD/ATI video cards at the low-end price barrier. I know $50
might not seem low end but when you have guys with 4 bridged nVidia 470's in
one computer just to see the fake heads blown off bodies, then you know what
I mean!

Look at this one. XFX is a very good brand, the video chip is perfext for
PSDR machines as you are not paying for a  lot of 3D power, it has 1GB of
video ram so it can handle the 1900x1080 resolutions on both monitors, etx
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150450

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394






On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Steve Floyd  wrote:

> Flexers,
>
> Need some 2 output DVI-D Video Card advice here.
>
> I just upgraded to Power SDR v2.0.16 with my Flex5K.
> The Flex5K runs just fine, however I now notice a problem with slow or
> missed
> video updates with PowerSDR mostly in my second monitor.
> The new PowerSDR v2.0.16 has much more complex console video for the
> buttons,
> borders, etc.
>
> Setup:
> Dell Vostro 400 w/2 GB RAM
> Video Card:  ATI Radeon HD 2600 XP  , PCIe x 16 slot, (with 2 DVI-D
> outputs)
> 2 monitors used, both DELL 22" LCD.
>
> The PowerSDR console video (buttons, borders, graphics) for Power SDR is
> updating about twice as fast in monitor 1(Primary), than in monitor 2, when
> the
> PowerSDR window is enlarged or front panel back-lit options are changed.
>
> The slow or missed PowerSDR console video updates are really noticeable
> when
> either the "Fill Panadapter" either/or "Second Receiver" options are
> activated
> adding to the video to now be displayed.
> In all cases, the Panadapter spectrum sweeps are fine, just the console
> video
> updates such as the back-lights on buttons, and cpu meter, etc. are slow or
> missed.
>
> Console Button Active lights or the CPU usage meter for example, take a
> long
> time to update or never update.
> When I change from say 40 m to 80 m, the band button lights do not change
> to 80
> m (40 m stays lit), even though the radio did go to 80 m. I can stop, then
> start, PowerSDR and the 80m band button light will now be on.
> This is clearly a slow video issue in my PC driving 2 monitors.
>
> Is there a better video card choice for faster video updates to BOTH
> monitors?
> Currently have the Radeon HD 2600 XP, in a PCIe x 16 graphics slot with
> correct
> drivers.
> Typical PC cpu usage sits at 30%.
>
> Any recommendations for a new video card would be appreciated as I would
> like
> the PowerSDR console video to be quick in both monitors and update fast
> under
> all operating conditions.
> I do require 2 DVI-D video outputs.
> Or, is this a video card issue at all??
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
> W4YHD
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Teamspeak

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Brian,

Up to date instructions for using the Teamspeak 
server are at http://openhpsdr.org/teamspeak.html  General information about 
the HPSDRproject can be found at www.openhpsdr.org.  As Tim mentioned, the 
weekly Teamspeak sessions these days are slanted 
more toward the HPSDR activities.  

IMHO, the HPSDR 
project compliments the activities of Flex Radio Systems.  HPSDR is an 
experimenter's group populated by volunteers.  Their mission is all 
about advancing the state of the art of Software Defined Radio.  If you 
are interested in superb software and hardware SDR solutions from a very 
customer oriented organization, Flex Radio Systems is the answer.

73,

Dan N4XWE





From: Brian Fredrickson 
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 3:15:03 AM
Subject: [Flexradio] Teamspeak

Can somebody let me know what I need to do to log into the Flex Teamspeak 
weekly session?  Seems like some changes have been made to the server access 
and I can no longer log in.  Is the Flex Teamspeak user guide out of date?

Thanks,

Brian  VK1BF

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Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers

[Dan Babcock]

Rob,

I have used a Logitech 350USB headset successfully with the SDR-1000.  The 
connection to PowerSDRis through VAC (Virtual Audio Cable).  This setup works 
especially wellwith digital audio modes.  The only downsides are the audio 
chain willnot include the PowerSDR equalizer control and the stock headphones 
canbe a little hard on the ears after an hour.  The upsides are good 
audioreports, flexible, independant software routing of audio through eitherthe 
headset or speakers and a price of less than $50 at Office Max(Fabrique en 
Chine).  I have actually seen refurbished ones for under$20 on amazon.com.

BTW, It doesn't have to be a USB headset.  A USB desk microphone and USB 
speakers would work equally well.

73,

Dan N4XWE



- Original Message 
From: Robert Dennison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:19:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mics for flexers

Hi Trevor,

Thanks, Though I'm thinking desk or boom mike.  I'll look into the Shure.
  

vy 73
Rob



  

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[Flexradio] USB Headset for PowerSDR

[Dan Babcock]

A few months ago I mentioned the excellent audio results that I have achieved 
with PowerSDR, an "el cheapo" USB headset and VAC.  The headset that I use, a 
Logitech 350, is currently on sale at buy.com for $14.99 after a $12.50 Mail-in 
Rebate.  Ground shipping is free.  

This is NOT a headset that you would want to wear all day, everyday.  But IMO, 
it does give excellent audio results at a very reasonable price.  My 
recollection is that the price for mine was about $41 plus tax at either 
OfficeDepot, or OfficeMax, or Staples.  I have forgotten exactly where it was 
purchased.

73,

Dan N4XWE




   

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Larry,

Everyone is welcome.  We do the Linux meeting the same
way we do the regular Friday night session.  We have a "roll call" at
the beginning where we go down the list of attendees and everyone can
talk about their recent activities.  Then, we cover the special topic. 
The microphone is then open for whatever subjects are of interest to
the group.  We try to keep on topic but from time to time the
discussions do move off track.

Anyway, stop by if you have a chance. 

73,

Dan N4XWE



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From: Larry Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Dan Babcock
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:04:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting

Hi Dan...

Is
the meeting open to all? I am currently working on an SDR radio project
using LINUX (uClinux on Blackfin). Is there a way that I could
participate?


Thanks,
Larry


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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,



Well, I am back from a "most excellent adventure" in Dayton and ready
to resume the regular Thursday night SDRLUG meetings.  So this evening
in North America at 0100Z (6:00, 7:00, 8:00 or 9:00PM, depending on
your time zone) we will be getting together to discuss all things Linux.



Tonight our special topic will be HPSDR and what we will need in order to use  
Ozy and Janus with Linux.



73,



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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,

I am out traveling this week and will not have an opportunity to log in for the 
regular Thursday night SDRLUG meeting.  I will, however be available next 
Thursday and look forward to talking with everyone then.  

Thinking back this is the first meeting I have missed since the first of the 
year.  I am a little backed up on posting the audio from the past three 
meetings.  I will try to do that upon my return to Arizona next week.

73,

Dan N4XWE

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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting at 0100Z on TeamSpeak Featuring Ozy Testing

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,



Well, I am moving up in the world.  For last week's meeting I  was
connected to the internet via a "borrowed" wireless connection that was
picked up in the parking lot of the Best Western in Show Low, Arizona. 
I am assuming it is Show Low's version of a Community LAN.  This week I
am helping Scotty with the testing of the Ozy boards.  He has
graciously offered me a LAN connection at their facility in Tempe.  So
for a report on Ozy testing coupled with a discussion of current Linux
topics, tune in this evening, morning or afternoon depending on your
location at 0100Z.



>From your mobile reporter,



73,



Dan N4XWE


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[Flexradio] Software Defined Radio at the Dayton Hamvention

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,

With
the assistance of Dale Boresz,WA8SRA, and Eric Ellison, AA4SW, I have
published a web page that contains information about the many Software
Defined Radio Activities at the 2007 Dayton Hamvention.  We are just
getting a good start but so far I have included the SDR Forum abstracts
and some "rumors" about other SDR activities.  We will include more
information as it becomes available.  The URL for the web page is

http://www.hamsdr.com/dayton07sdr.aspx

If
you believe what has been posted is in error, if I have missed
something or you would like me to add another SDR related activity,
please let me know.  Thanks to Dale's efforts the web page is in a
format that is easily and quickly modifiable.

73,

Dan N4XWE





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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting On TeamSpeak

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,

Just a reminder that the regular Thursday night SDR Linux User Group
on TeamSpeak meeting is tomorrow evening (in the US) at 0200Z.  This is a 
chance to find
out what is new with Software Defined Radio and Linux.  You can also
find answers to questions that you may be having about Linux.  Stop by
and join in.  

The special topic this week is G4KLX's uWSDR program.  Jonathan is releasing an 
upgrade to his code this weekend.  Be the first on your block to use this very 
nice cross platform (Linux, Mac OSX and Windows) GUI.  It was originally 
developed as the all-mode Rig Control and DSP program for the uWave Software 
Defined Radio Project and has been adapted to work with the SoftRock RxTx.

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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,

Just a reminder that the SDR Linux User Group meeting is this evening (in the 
US) at 0200Z.  This is a chance to find out what is new with Software Defined 
Radio and Linux.  You can also find answers to questions that you may be having 
about Linux.  Stop by and join in.

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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group 02/09/07 Audio has been Uploaded

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,

The audio file from Thursday's SDR Linux User Group meeting on Teamspeak has 
been uploaded to HamSDR.com.  The direct link for the mp3 file is 
http://www.hamsdr.com/personaldirectory.aspx?id=497.   My apologies to Craig 
KC2LFI, the first 10 seconds of his conversation has "gone missing."  Thanks 
for everyone's participation.

73,

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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group on TeamSpeak

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Everyone,

After
a week of sporadic internet connectivity and a couple of 18 hour work
days, I am back up and running with over 400 emails in my inbox.  The
SDR Linux User Group meeting will be this evening at 0200Z.  That is
9:00 PM in the East and 6:00 PM in the West.  This evening our special
topics will be using Subversion and esvn and downloading files from an
svn repository.

Additionally, I would like to discuss having a
forum and a repository just for SDR Linux stuff.  There are a number of
options from using the existing dttsp-linux Yahoo group and Flex-Radio
forum to having our own set of dedicated resources.  

Hope that you can join us.

73,

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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,



Just a reminder that there will be another SDR Linux User Group meeting
tomorrow evening at 0200Z on TeamSpeak.  That is 9:00 PM on the East
coast and 6:00PM on the West coast.  BTW, the plan is to have a meeting
every Thursday night (in the US) until further notice.



This week the special topics will be downloading and installing Ubuntu
and (How Original!) configuring sound cards in ALSA and properly
setting aliases for sound card operation with OSS applications.



Please let me know if anyone would like to have an additional SDRLUG
meeting this Saturday at 1400Z.  For those of us in the Western US that
is an hour or two before the sun comes up.  It requires some extra
effort on my part to get out of bed that early this time of year, but I
am more than willing to do it if anyone is interested.



>From the mountains of Arizona, where we have had about a foot of very
wet snow over the past two weeks -- and I still refuse to buy a snow
shovel.



73,



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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group on TeamSpeak this Evening

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,

Just a reminder that the SDRLUG will be meeting
on TeamSpeak this evening at 0200 UTC (9:00 EST, 8:00 CST, 7:00 MST and
6:00 PST).  Our topics will be "Downloading and Burning ubuntu
Installation Disks" and "Installing a Dual-boot ubuntu and Windows XP
system."

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[Flexradio] Reprise of the SDR Linux User Group on TeamSpeak

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,

After taking a few months off to sort myself out after a move from Florida and 
Phoenix to the mountains of Arizona, I would like to restart the SDR Linux User 
Group sessions on TeamSpeak.  The first one will be on January 12 at 0100Z 
(Thursday at 6:00PM in the West and 9:00PM in the East).  We will follow that 
up with a meeting on January 13 at 1400Z for out friends in places where the 
0100Z session is at an inconvenient time.

Please let me know by email (n4xwe at yahoo.com) what topics you would like to 
cover.  Although I am more than willing to start things off, it is your group.  
Also, let me know if the times that I have "arbitrarily" chosen are convenient 
for everyone. 

There are many new and interesting events that have taken place in the Linux, 
SDR and amateur radio worlds since the group last met.

Happy New Year and 73,

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[Flexradio] Informal ubuntu Question and Answer Session

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,

Tomorrow evening EDST (More precisely 15 June Z to 0400Z) the SDR Linux 
User Group will be having an informal question and answer session for ubuntu 
users on TeamSpeak.  If you are using or are interested in using the ubuntu 
Linux distribution, please stop by.

The format is decidedly informal and will be geared to the beginning and 
intermediate level ubuntu user.

I have been working with ubuntu 6.06 (the Dapper Drake) since the RC release in 
late May.  IMHO, this distro is really slick.

For those that can't make it we will post an mp3 audio recording at HamSDR.com.

Dan N4XWE

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Re: [Flexradio] Ubuntu Linux Install question.

[Dan Babcock]

Hi John,

Which version of ubuntu are you installing?  

The most recent version 6.06 is due for final release this Thursday.  You might 
want to try installing the current 6.06 release candidate.  It is available at 
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/  The release candidate is stable, has an 
optimized and updated installer and can be easily upgraded when the final 
release appears.

I am not sure what the configuration of your system is but the issue of hanging 
during installation may have more to do with SATA drives than the dual CPU's.

There is a substantial amount of help available on the ubuntu.org website.   
There are a number of experienced Linux users that frequent the FlexRadio 
Reflector so posting here will probably get you a fairly quick response. 

If you have questions about Software Defined Radio and Linux there is also a 
Yahoo Group (dttsp-linux) that is oriented in that direction.

Welcome!!!

73,

Dan N4XWE



John L Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone installed Ubuntu on a dual 
processor machine, in particular a Dell
Pentium D? I get about 90% through and it hangs. It installs on a clone with
a AMD XP2600 ok.

John N1JM



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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group TeamSpeak Meeting on Saturday, May 27 at 1300Z

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Everyone,

We will have a SDRLUG meeting on May 27 at 1300Z on TeamSpeak.  

AB2KT and N4HY are doing the final spit polish and fingerprint removal on DttSP 
for Linux.  The ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" Release Candidate 1 was put into the 
public domain today and the final release is scheduled for next Thursday.  It 
is an exciting time for Linux and Software Defined Radio.

Ken, N9VV, and I have been talking about a weekly Wednesday night session on 
TeamSpeak to focus on aiding those that are just starting with ubuntu.  Please 
let us know if you are interested in learning or helping.

If anyone is interested in talking about what went on in Dayton, there will 
most likely be a few Hamvention attendees in the group.

73,

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Re: [Flexradio] test

[Dan Babcock]

Ken,

The FlexRadio reflector shares participants with the HPSDR reflector and the 
dttsp-linux and N2PK-VNA Yahoo Groups.  Right now the HPSDR reflector is very 
active.  To check out the HPSDR project or sign up for the reflector (if you 
haven't already) go to http://hpsdr.org/

73,

Dan N4XWE

Ken Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, but I also noticed that there are a 
number of messages in the archives
that I never received.  I think that there have been some glitches in the
forwarding mechanism.  If so, they seem to be fixed now.

Ken WR5H



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert McGwier
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:20 PM
To: Jim Lux
Cc: FlexRadio
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] test

There is lots of getting ready  to go to Dayton.  Gerald, Eric, John are 
getting their new office together at 12100 Technology Boulevard while 
getting the ROHS radios ready to ship.

Bob


Jim Lux wrote:
> At 03:18 PM 5/10/2006, KD5NWA wrote:
>   
>> No discussions of Beta software on the list, so it's quiet.
>> 
>
> yahoo group is quiet too.
>
> Jim 
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[Flexradio] Audio from the 06 May 1300Z SDR Linux User Group Mtg

[Dan Babcock]

Well maybe this post will have everything straightened out.  I generally use 
the Yahoo Mail browser based email client but it is becoming obvious that I 
need something better (or maybe it needs a better user).

Here it goes again.



The audio  from the 05 May 1300Z SDR Linux User Group meeting has been posted 
at www.HamSDR.com.

The direct link to the mp3 is  

 
 
Another very interesting meeting.  Thanks everyone.

Attendees

Bill-KD5TFD
 Eric-AA4SW
 Bob-VE3GKM
 Frank-AB2KT
 Cecil-KD5NWA
 Dale-WA8SRA
 Dan-N4XWE
 Edson-N1VTN
 Jerry-WB0UZW
 Jonathon-ON/G4KLX
 Ken-N9VV
 Larry-VE6VQ/W7
 Rick-VE3MM
 

Subjects covered include:

 
 HPSDR
 Linrad
 DttSP for Linux Source Code Manager
 Multiple processes and threads in Windows versus Linux
 Linux upgrades and  system uptime
 Security for remotely operated Operating Systems
 Remote debugging of systems
 AMSAT and SDR
 The next release of DttSP for Linux
 Baudline and Sound Card performance
 Baudline and DttSP-Shell
 Qt and DttSP-Shell
 IQ compensation
 USB to parallel port adapter control in Linux
 Ports of the PowerSDR code

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[Flexradio] Audio from the 05 April 1300Z SDR Linux User Group Meeting (With Link)

[Dan Babcock]

Sorry All, 

I forgot to put a link in the original posting.  BTW, the location in HamSDR is 
the SDR Linux User Group folder in the Public Download directory.

Direct Link is  

 

73, 

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[Flexradio] Audio from the 05 April 1300Z SDR Linux User Group Meeting

[Dan Babcock]

The audio  from the 05 May 1300Z SDR Linux User Group meeting has been posted 
at www.HamSDR.com.

Another very interesting meeting.  Thanks everyone.

Attendees
Bill-KD5TFD
 Eric-AA4SW
 Bob-VE3GKM
 Frank-AB2KT
 Cecil-KD5NWA
 Dale-WA8SRA
 Dan-N4XWE
 Edson-N1VTN
 Jerry-WB0UZW
 Jonathon-ON/G4KLX
 Ken-N9VV
 Larry-VE6VQ/W7
 Rick-VE3MM
 

Subjects covered include:
 
 HPSDR
 Linrad
 DttSP for Linux Source Code Manager
 Multiple processes and threads in Windows versus Linux
 Linux upgrades and system uptime
 Security for remotely operated Operating Systems
 Remote debugging of systems
 AMSAT and SDR
 The next release of DttSP for Linux
 Baudline and Sound Card performance
 Baudline and DttSP-Shell
 Qt and DttSP-Shell
 IQ compensation
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[Flexradio] [Reminder] SDR Linux User Group Meeting on Saturday, May 6 at 1300Z

[Dan Babcock]

Hello All,

This is a reminder.  In case you missed it the first time.


  There will be a Software Defined Radio Linux User Group (SDRLUG) meeting on 
TeamSpeak this Saturday, May 6 at 1300Z.   
  
We will have a "roll call" of signed in users that will be followed by an open 
discussion period.   Bring the group up to date on your activities.
  
There will be an update on the status of the next release of DttSP for  Linux.


  See you Saturday evening, morning or afternoon depending upon where you are 
located.

73


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[Flexradio] Source Code Manager for DttSP for Linux

[Dan Babcock]

Hello All,

We have found a Source Code Manager for DttSP for Linux.  It is Larry Gadallah, 
VE6VQ.  Larry brings to the DttSP for Linux project many years of experience 
with BSD and OS X as well as Linux.  

We are thrilled to have you as part of the team, Larry. 

And thanks to everyone that showed an interest in helping.

73,

Dan N4XWE


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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group TeamSpeak Meeting on Saturday, May 6 at 1300Z

[Dan Babcock]

Hello All,
  There will be a Software Defined Radio Linux User Group (SDRLUG) meeting on 
TeamSpeak this Saturday, May 6 at 1300Z.   
  We will have a "roll call" of signed in users that will be followed by an 
open discussion period.  Bring the group up to date on your activities.
  There will be an update on the status of the next release of DttSP for Linux.
  See you Saturday evening, morning or afternoon depending upon where you are 
located.
  The DttSP for Linux Development Team is looking for a Source Code Manager.  
This is a great opportunity for someone that wants to become more involved in 
the DttSP for Linux project.  Please take a look at the "Job Description" that 
is posted in the Public Download directory of the HamSDR.com website. The 
direct link is >http://www.hamsdr.com/dnld.aspx?id=218< If you are interested 
or have any questions, please send me an email at danbabc(at)yahoo.com.
   73,
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[Flexradio] Help Wanted: DttSP for Linux Source Code Manager

[Dan Babcock]

The DttSP for Linux Team needs a Source Code Manager.  =


Are you interested in learning more about the DttSP for Linux source code? =
 This is an excellent opportunity for someone to make an important contribu=
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ink is:
http://www.hamsdr.com/personaldirectory.aspx?id=3D218
If you are interested or have any questions, please contact me by email at =
danbabc(at)yahoo.com.

73,

Dan N4XWE




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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group on Friday, April 28 at 0100Z

[Dan Babcock]

Hello All,

We will be holding a Software Defined Radio Linux User Group (SDRLUG) meeti=
ng this Thursday evening at 9:00 pm EDST (Friday, April 28 at 0100Z) on Tea=
mSpeak.

  =

   We will use a "roll call" format followed by an open discussion period. =


This week's meeting will be a continuation of the ubuntu installation and u=
se topics that were discussed last week.  =


  =

  See you Thursday or Friday depending upon what day of the week it is in y=
our time zone.

GMT:   04/28/06  0100Z
ADT:04/27/06 10:00 PM
EDT:04/27/06  9:00 PM
CDT:04/27/06  8:00 PM
MDT:04/27/06  7:00 PM
PDT:04/27/06  6:00 PM
AKDT:  04/27/06  5:00 PM
HST:04/27/06  3:00 PM
IST: 04/28/06  6:30 AM
WST:   04/28/06  9:00 AM (Perth)
EST:04/28/06 11:00 AM (Sydney and Melbourne)

It's a big, big, big, big world.


 73,

 =

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[Flexradio] Audio for SDR Linux User Group 23 April at 1300Z

[Dan Babcock]

The audio  from the 23 April 1300Z SDR Linux User Group meeting has been po=
sted at www.HamSDR.com.

This TeamSpeak discussion focuses on the about to be released DttSP for Lin=
ux.  Frank Brickle highlights new aspects of the code.  Edson Pereira, the =
developer of DttSP-Shell and John Melton, the developer of the Java GUI for=
 DttSP discuss their projects.  Included are additional comments about usin=
g DttSP for EHF and SHF.

Participants:

Bill-KD5TFD
Cecil-KD5NWA
Dan-N4XWE
Edson-PU1JTE / N1VTN
Eric-AA4SW
Everett-KG6RYB
Frank-AB2KT
James- ALSA Development Team
John-G0ORX / N6LYT
Jonathon-ON/G4KLX
Ken-N9VV
Phil-K3IB
Tom-AA8YI

Thanks everyone for making this a fascinating discussion of the new DttSP c=
ode for Linux.

The direct link to the audio is:

http://www.hamsdr.com/dnld.aspx?id=3D207


73,

Dan N4XWE

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[Flexradio] Audio for SDR Linux User Group 21 April 0100Z

[Dan Babcock]

The audio  from the 21 April 0100Z SDR Linux User Group meeting has been po=
sted at HamSDR.com.

Even if you are not that interested in Linux,  the dialog from about 1:00 t=
o 2:00 into the recording is an extremely interesting discussion of the Sof=
tRock, codecs, DttSP  and a couple of other timely topics.

Participants:

Bill-KD5TFD
Eric-AA4SW
Bob-N4HY
Bob-VK4XV
Cecil-KD5NWA
Dale-WA8SRA
Dan-N4XWE
Dudley-WA5QPZ
Everett-KG6RYB
Jerry-WB0UZW
Ken-N9VV
Kirb-VE6IV
Phil-K3IB
Ramakrishnan-VU3RDD
Tony-KB9YIG

and Don Seglio Batuna  IH9something

Thanks everyone for making this a great meeting!!!

The link to the audio is:

http://www.hamsdr.com/dnld.aspx?id=3D190

The next SDRLUG meeting is on April 23 at 1300Z

73,

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Re: [Flexradio] [OT] Danger! Ubuntu 6.06 beta busted MBR/partition size

[Dan Babcock]

Ken,

Thanks for the report.

Based on a number of BAD experiences, I do not use the hard drive MBR for O=
S loading.  I use a 3.5" diskette configured as a GRUB boot disk.  You can =
pick this option during installation by telling the Installer to put GRUB o=
n /dev/fd0.  =


Provided your bios allows it, an even better option is a USB thumb drive.  =


I also keep a GRUB Floppy handy in case there is a problem after installati=
on.  There are at least fifty how-to's for creating and managing a GRUB Flo=
ppy but one of the best is at: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622

Frank's comment about mounting Beta's and such on a removable drive is exce=
llent advice.  =


73,

Dan N4XWE

Frank Brickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FWIW what originally sent me to Ub=
untu was trying to dual-boot XP and =

Linux by installing the new OS to an external USB2 drive. It's hopeless =

under SuSE. Clunky with Knoppix. Elementary with Ubuntu.

Nevertheless it's a little safer all around, if you want to play with =

beta OS releases, to do it someplace really safe like on a removable =

drive :-)

Once it's ripe, Xen will probably be a good environment for this too.

73
Frank
AB2KT

Philip M. Lanese wrote:
> Ken
> After the last experience with SUSE 10.0 I now use Partition Magic to clo=
ne copy
> drive 0 to drive 1 (backup), then play.
> =

> The two floppy disk set generated by PQ Magic will allow you to run PQM u=
nder DR
> DOS from floppy at boot and then you simply copy drive 1 back over drive =
0.
> Easy (if time consuming) restore, but READ DOCS first.
> =

> Phil. K3IB
> =

> - Original Message -
> From: "Ken N9VV" =

> =

> =

>>Hi, I just recovered Ubuntu 5.10 from a disaster trying to upgrade
>>to 6.06 beta. I mashed my MBR and it was a struggle to get back to a
>>bootable system.
> =

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Re: [Flexradio] [OT] Ubuntu 6.06 Beta Released

[Dan Babcock]

Ken,
 =

 Thanks for the heads up.
 =

 Please remember everyone, this is BETA software.  The official release of =
"Dapper Drake" is scheduled for early June.
 =

 If you install a Beta version, it is generally not a good idea to "upgrade=
" when the official release comes out.  What I am saying is when the offici=
al release appears you will be better served by reformatting the partition =
where the Beta was installed and reinstalling the official release from scr=
atch.
 =

 Adopting a paranoid to the nth degree position means that any work you hav=
e done in the Beta release should be destroyed along with the Beta release.
 =

 73,
 =

 Dan N4XWE

Ken - N9VV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: F.Y.I.

"The Ubuntu team is proud to present the beta release of Ubuntu 6.06
(Dapper Drake). With Ubuntu 6.06 Beta comes loads of bug fixes, a new
Look-and-Feel, a new Live-CD installer, GNOME 2.14.1 and much
more..."


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Re: [Flexradio] Linux Wishes

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Pete,
 =

 I have used John's Java GUI for dttsp with my SoftRock v5.0 and a DDS-60 V=
FO.  IMHO, it is a very, very nice piece of software.
 =

 The link to John's website is: http://microsat.homelinux.org/dttsp/
 =

 There is also a dttsp-linux Yahoo Group that has additional information ab=
out John's software and Edson Pereira's DttSP-Shell program.
 =

 The direct link is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dttsp-linux/
 =

 73,
 =

 Dan N4XWE
 =

 =


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few posts back, John Melton mentioned his J=
ava GUI.  John - care to give
us a brief overview of this GUI and its status?

Pete, N3EVL
 =


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =

> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert McGwier
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:20 PM
> To: w2agn
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Linux Wishes
> =

> w2agn wrote:
> > I see all the Linux discussion, which is interesting. I run =

> both Linux =

> > and Win2000. About the only thing I run Windows for any more is the =

> > SDR Console. What I would like is to be able to run my =

> SDR-1000 from =

> > Linux, just as I do from Win2000. I set up "Jack" at one time and =

> > dTTSP, but never could figure out how to get it to work with the =

> > SDR-1000. At the risk of being considered an idiot, I would =

> just like =

> > a nice GUI that would run my SDR-1000 without having to leave Linux.
> >   =

> Then you can be an idiot with the rest of us because we would =

> like that too!
> =

> Bob N4HY
> =

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> as charged!
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux distros

[Dan Babcock]

In my haste to finish the previous post, I neglected to mention:
 =

 8)  Ubuntu is usable out of the box as a "live distro."
 =

 9)  Ubuntu is free (as in beer).  There is no extra cost Enterprise additi=
on.  What you see is what you get.
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 73,
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux distros

[Dan Babcock]

   All,
 =

 I cannot help but chuckle when I see normally rational people become total=
ly irrational over Linux distributions.  The main reasons that ubuntu was s=
elected as the favored distribution for DttSP and are listed below.
  =

  1)  There are ubuntu supported packages for all of the dependencies that =
are required for compiling  DttSP.  In fact there are over 17,000 supported=
 packages.
  =

  2)  Ubuntu has an excellent system installer.  It isn't perfect, but it i=
s as good as any and better than most.  I have seen one instance where ubun=
tu would not install.  That was on an ASUS P4P800E - Deluxe motherboard.  I=
t was not an installer problem, it iwas a Southbridge controller problem.  =
The probability is high that this issue will be resolved in the next releas=
e of ubuntu.
  =

 3)  Ubuntu has a regular upgrade cycle.  Because ALSA modules are now comp=
iled into the kernel and many of us use the Delta 44, we need the added ALS=
A support that a recent stock kernel gives us.
  =

  4)  Ubuntu uses the Synaptic Program Manager.  Managing packages and depe=
ndencies is way too easy with Synaptic.
  =

  5)  Ubuntu has a comprehensive set of software development tools.  One co=
mmand, "sudo apt-get install build-essential" will make your ubuntu system =
development ready. =

  =

  6)  Seventy-seven amateur radio packages are supported by ubuntu.  Grante=
d some aren't worth the hard drive space they occupy, but it's the thought =
that counts.  There is a supported package for gnuradio.  My guess is the s=
ame will soon be true for DttSP.
  =

  7)  There is an excellent chance that ubuntu will be around five years fr=
om now.  Of the 200 distros that Jim Lux mentioned, how many will disappear=
 in the next two years?
  =

 I have said this many times before and I will say it again.  If you are tr=
uly comfortable with a different distribution and feel that it meets your n=
eeds, use it.  If you want support for DttSP and SDR related projects, use =
ubuntu.
  =

  73,
  =

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Re: [Flexradio] [hpsdr] Names of various projects...

[Dan Babcock]

Phil, Bob, Frank and Kirb:
 =

 Some years ago I set up an LLC to do some consulting work.  It was appropr=
iately called, I thought, Aerospace Consulting Partnership, LLC.  About six=
 months after filing the LLC paperwork with the Florida Secretary of State,=
  a three pound packet from a law firm in Chicago arrived with a cover lett=
er that claimed they held a trademark for the word Aerospace.  For a fee of=
 $15,000 they were willing to sell a license to me so that I could continue=
 operating my business without having to worry about them taking me to cour=
t.
 =

 I talked to an attorney about it.  He suggested I write a letter to the Co=
ok County Bar Association explaining in detail what had happened and lodgin=
g a complaint against the attorney whose name was on the cover letter. =

 =

 About a month later I received a from the Bar Association saying the attor=
ney had "elected to disassociate" himself from the company that claimed the=
y owned the trademark.
 =

 I believe that people have the right to protect their trade names and othe=
r Intellectual Property from misappropriation by others.  I do not believe =
that anyone has a superior right to the use of a common word.  If someone u=
sed FlexRadio, it is one thing.  Simply using the word Flex or Radio is som=
ething else.
 =

 It is normally better to ignore stuff from the theater of the absurd. Base=
d upon my previous experiences, I feel a comment is in order.
 =

 73, =

 =

 Dan N4XWE

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Then of course there's this: http://www.flexonline.com/
(man I hate it when they use my photo on the cover without permission)

Kirb - VE6IV
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>
> I love the way Matt handled it.  There is a FlexRadio as well =

> (www.flexradio.net).  Apparently Gerald has registered FlexRadio Systems =

> as a trademark.
>
> Thank goodness I am an academic and no lawyer.  This is all just too =

> confusing for me.
>
> Bob
>
>
> Philip Covington wrote:
>   =

>> * High Performance Software Defined Radio Discussion List *
>>
>> And how about Altera's FLEX 10K/A/E or FLEX 6000/A or FLEX 8000 parts?
>>
>> 73 de Phil N8VB
>>
>>
>> On 4/19/06, Frank Brickle =

 wrote:
>>   =

>> =

>>> I ran "Fl=EBx" up the flagpole but nobody saluted.
>>>
>>> Flex is a registered trademark belonging to Motorola, anyway. If anybody
>>> should be upset, they should, and it doesn't look like they are.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Frank
>>> AB2KT
>>>
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[Flexradio] Additional Meeting for SDR Linux User Group on Sunday April 23 at 1300Z

[Dan Babcock]

We have many SDR Linux users that are living in locatio=
ns where participating in a (USA) weekday evening meeting is not practical.=
 To accomodate everyone we will have another SDRLUG meeting on Sunday, Apri=
l 23 at 1300Z (0800 CDT, 0900 EDT, 1400 BST, 1830 IST, 2200 JST and 2200 WS=
T on TeamSpeak.  The Sunday meeting is in addition to our previously scedul=
ed meeting on Friday, April 21 at 0100Z.
 =

 =

 We will use a "roll call" format that is similar to the one used on the Fr=
iday night forum followed by an open discussion period.  The Friday (Thursd=
ay in USA) meeting will focus on ubuntu support issues.  The Sunday meeting=
 will focus on DttSP software development.   =

 =

 =

 If you are time limited on Sunday and have questions or comments but are u=
nable to stay for the entire meeting, please let me know.  I will do my bes=
t to move you to the front of the line.
 =

 =

 For those that might need a refresher here is a link to the TeamSpeak page=
 in the FlexRadio forums:   =

 =

 =

 >http://flex-radio.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3D1745<
 =

 =

 See you Thursday, Friday or Sunday.
 =

 =

 73,
 =

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting (21 April at 0100Z)

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Eric,
 =

 Just wanted to add that the ubuntu ISO DVD's are also available by BitTorr=
ent download.  For those who haven't used it, it is a peer to peer file tra=
nsfer system that is coordinated by a central server.  It is sometimes fast=
er than downloading from a mirror.
 =

 To find out more and download the BitTorrrent program go to: http://www.bi=
ttorrent.com/
 =

 To download a Torrent for an ubuntu DVD go to: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/r=
eleases/breezy/release/dvd/
 =

 I also have ubuntu DVD's for anyone that needs one.  Just drop me an e-mai=
l.  =

 =

 BTW, the next stable version of ubuntu is being released in June.
 =

 73,
 =

 Dan N4XWE
 =

 =


Eric Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Folks

Good LORD! Terrible getting old, and trying to keep the Cholesterol Low!

http://www.ubuntu.com/


Eric2


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Ellison
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:55 PM
To: 'Dan Babcock'; 'FlexRadio Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting (21 April at 0100Z)

Dan

Thanks!

Sorry for copying the post on the linux forum, which I also monitor here.
(That is for the folks using Outlook and using ["forum"] filter, like I do)!

Folks (Especially dyed in the wool Windows XP folks like myself)

Although there are hundreds of Distributions of Linux out there, Dan has
suggested the Ubuntu distribution of Linux which is very full featured. If
we settle on one distro, it will probably be easier on the experts to help
us with adding features. The problem the Experts seem to have is deciding on
one distribution of Linux within their group. The Ubuntu forum is a wealth
of knowledge and helpful folks. I would assume that there are other distro
groups which are the same, however, if we "Appliance operators" settle on
Ubuntu then we can help ourselves. There HAS to be some Linux structure like
Windows XP as a 'single platform' for the basis of this development.

Here is the website where you can get a very capable "Windowing" operating
system. When you get there, if you are a purely MS Windows operator and have
the capability of burning a CD choose the Live CD for Mac, Intel or AMD
machine. Burn the ISO image to a CD and tell your computer BIOS to boot from
CD. It will boot you to a test version of Ubuntu on your machine without
'hurting' your XP macine. It may not work, but then again it may. If it does
have problems you will know how to ask questions. IT DOES not change your
Windows installation AT ALL and is well worth the risk, if you want to try
something new! (We wouldn't be Flexers if we were not into the NEW!) =


If you have an old computer around that you can 'build up' then try the full
distribution.

Beware these ISO images are pretty big so if you are on dial-up. Start at
about 7 A.M your time and come back at 7 P.M. You can also purchase the
images on the website. If you want to experiment Dale or I can snail mail
you the current distro on CD. =


Think "Outside the Box"

We have some really outstanding programmers supporting this project in
software!  (Edson you listening? Come out of hiding mode! I have made the
initial effort!)

Eric2 - aa4sw






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Babcock
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:10 PM
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: [Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting (21 April at 0100Z)

Hello Fellow Flexers,
 =

 We will be holding our third Software Defined Radio Linux User Group
(SDRLUG) meeting this Thursday evening at 9:00 pm EDST (Friday, April 21 at
0100Z) on TeamSpeak.   =

   We will use a "roll call" format that is similar to the one used on the
Friday night forum followed by an open discussion period.  In addition to
bringing us up to date on your current activities, please let the group know
about your experience with installing (or attempting to install) ubuntu.   =

  We will also have an update on the status of the next release of DttSP for
Linux.
  One of the main objectives of this group is to attempt to provide
something of interest for every level of expertise with Linux.   =

  See you Thursday or Friday depending upon what day of the week it is in
your time zone.
 =

 73,
 =

 Dan N4XWE
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Re: [Flexradio] Am I Missing Something? Or Is Everyone?

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Lee,
 =

 Your points are well taken and eloquently stated as always.  BUT...
  =

  Using SVN is about as "trivial" as it gets in the computer world.  I am n=
ot sure that a person that cannot invest ten minutes of their time to learn=
 the rudiments of using SVN should be fiddling with any kind of code, much =
less alpha code.  =

  =

  I think we are making this issue about 100 times more difficult than it i=
s.
  =

  If you don't want to screw with SVN or alpha code, don't
  =

  If you want to give the beta code a try because it has a feature you cann=
ot live without, download the exe file from the Flex-Radio website and go a=
t it.
  =

  If you want to use only the stable release, no problem. =

  =

  Everyone is quickly forgetting that the difference between now and a few =
weeks ago is that today we have a full featured stable release.  In the not=
 too distant past it was often necessary to install the latest (alpha, beta=
, or whatever) release to have "complete" functionality of the radio.
  =

  My nickel's worth.
  =

  73,
  =

  Dan N4XWE
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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting (21 April at 0100Z)

[Dan Babcock]

Hello Fellow Flexers,
 =

 We will be holding our third Software Defined Radio Linux User Group (SDRL=
UG) meeting this Thursday evening at 9:00 pm EDST (Friday, April 21 at 0100=
Z) on TeamSpeak.   =

   We will use a "roll call" format that is similar to the one used on the =
Friday night forum followed by an open discussion period.  In addition to b=
ringing us up to date on your current activities, please let the group know=
 about your experience with installing (or attempting to install) ubuntu.   =

  We will also have an update on the status of the next release of DttSP fo=
r Linux.
  One of the main objectives of this group is to attempt to provide somethi=
ng of interest for every level of expertise with Linux.   =

  See you Thursday or Friday depending upon what day of the week it is in y=
our time zone.
 =

 73,
 =

 Dan N4XWE
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 =

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Re: [Flexradio] dttsp linux

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Brian,

Here are the instructions for downloading the DttSP source code from Source=
forge:
 =

This next series of text commands will download and install a directory  tr=
ee containing the source code files from the CVS server at Sourceforge  (ww=
w.sourceforge.net) to the system directory /usr/local/sdr.  The root of  th=
e source tree is the dttsp directory.  Depending on the volume of  Sourcefo=
rge server activity and the speed of your internet connection, it  may take=
 from a few seconds to a few minutes for the file transfers to  complete. =

 =

 Type in a terminal:
  =

  =

  =

cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/dttsp login
=

You will be asked for a password for CVS.  No password is required.  Press =
 the ENTER key.  There may be a warning that the /root/.cvspass file does  =
not exist.  Since .cvspass simply stores passwords and no password is  requ=
ired, we can ignore it. =

 =

  =

CVS password:[Enter]
=

  =

cvs -z3  -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/dttsp co -P dttsp
=

 You now have all of the source code that is require for compiling DttSP. A=
 couple of additional points.  You must have the correct permissions for  t=
he target directory.  I would suggets that you cut and paste the  informati=
on in the boxes into your terminal program.  The source can be  compiled by=
 any user.  If you have any questions, please let me know. =

73,  =

Dan N4XWE
 =


Brian Sherrod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I have a box for both Linux and Windows and would like to get the dttsp f=
or =

Linux, however I'm not having much luck using cvs. Never have used cvs =

before, so I'm sure it's a user problem.

Do I need to login using "cvs login" first? I've tried that, however it ask=
s =

for a password which I thought would be anoncvs which doesn't appear to wor=
k. =


I've tried to follow the instructions at:
http://dttsp.sourceforge.net/cvs.html

Any help appreciated.

Brian / w5ami

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Re: [Flexradio] Another Try -- Subversion, Alpha, Beta

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Don,
 =

 In what seeems like another lifetime I worked for a large corporation that=
 seemed to measure everything in memo inches.  My boss in those days gave m=
e some great advice on writing memos,  I think it translates pretty well to=
 asking for help on reflectors.
 =

 Five Rules of Memo Writing.
 =

 1.  One subject per memo.
 2.  Be Concise.
 3.  One subject per memo.
 4.  Don't editorialize.
 5.  One subject per memo.
 =

 I am glad that your difficulties with starting PowerSDR were resolved.  Th=
e answers to solving your problem saved me and no doubt many others a lot o=
f angst.  And I learned how to use SVN today.
 =

 In defense of those, including yours truly, who didn't quite get the point=
 of your original inquiry -- it took a couple of passes to figure out exact=
ly what you were asking.
 =

 73,
 =

 Dan N4XWE

Don AE5K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Everyone...

Earlier today I sent a message to the FlexRadio list with the subject
"Am I Missing Something? ..." which started an avalanche of "replies".
It involved my frustration at trying to get the latest alpha version of
PowerSDR from the SVN site running.

I found the problem later this afternoon.  The problem is that the
"Release" folder (from SVN) does not contain two dll files from
Microsoft that have been in the past included in the installation of
previous betas and releases.  Copying those two files into the alpha
folder allowed PowerSDR to work.

I would like to emphasize that stuff like this needs to be documented
somewhere so that others don't run into the same problem.

It was not my intention to start a big debate over the merits of
Subversion.  It is a neat program/system.  The URL that Chris mentioned
to just download the releases would have helped me and I'm sure that tip
will help others save on downloading time if they are not interested in
source files.

While I've got the floor, I'd like to try to clear up a misconception
that I had and I think that others had too.  Gerald has NOW made it
clear (I think) that Betas will continue to be posted on the website.
THIS IS NOT WHAT I HAD UNDERSTOOD from previous very recent postings on
the FlexRadio reflector, to wit:

> We are done FOREVER with releasing alpha and beta level =

> code via the web interface.
--Robert McGwier rwmcgwier at comcast.net
Fri Apr 14 06:28:27 CDT 2006

> As such, there will =

> be no more Beta (or what should have been called alpha) releases done on =

> the web site. =

--Robert McGwier rwmcgwier at comcast.net
Sat Apr 15 12:46:30 CDT 2006

I hope, Gerald, you see why there are some bad thoughts and confusion on
this reflector.  I was under the impression that only official releases
(such as 1.4.4 and 1.6.0) would be placed on the website for download;
your latest postings indicate otherwise.

Editorial (soapbox) comment: my posting this morning indicated I had
problems.  I felt it fell in that gray zone between cockpit problems and
bugs and that I might get advice and help from this list and was not a
candidate for the buglist.  I was WRONG!  Not a single one of the
replies (counted 19 so far) addressed the problem I was having.  Instead
it veered off into off-topic stuff which was of no help to the original
poster who had a problem.  So much for help from those more experienced
that I.  That has not been the case in the past on this list, and I
certainly hope it is not the trend.

73,
Don AE5K

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Re: [Flexradio] [OT] dual-boot Windows XP machine

[Dan Babcock]

Ken,

If you have ever add a new hard drive to an Windows XP
machine and install the XP OS on the new drive and
leave the XP OS on the old drive bootable, you will,
like it or not, end up with a Windows XP dual boot
system.  Your options will be to run the old disk XP
OS or the new disk XP OS.  After moving data from the
old disk to the new disk and deleting the old XP OS,
the system on start up will still present the XP OS
dual boot choices.  The only problem is the XP OS on
the old disk won't actually boot.

The method of fixing this problem is rather obscure
but requires manually editing the boot.ini file to
reflect a single boot choice per the instructions in
this link -- http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=289022

73,

Dan N4XWE




--- Ken N9VV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sometime this week there was a discussion about how
> to setup a PC 
> for dual boot of Windows XP. We usually think of
> dual-boot as being 
> for dissimilar Operating Systems. But in this setup
> there might be 
> two implementations of XP. One fellow suggested
> separate profiles 
> would also be worth looking into.
> 
> The idea is to have one PC personality that has all
> your email, 
> browsing, and auxiliary utilities. The other
> personality might be 
> stripped down for controlling your SDR-1000 only (no
> internet, no 
> extras) so that all the cycles could go to the
> Console code. These 
> articles might have some nuggets of info to enable
> that kind of a 
> dual-boot structure:
> 
>
http://www.informationweek.com/shared/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=185301251
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=291980
> 
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[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeeting Audio Posted

[Dan Babcock]

The TeamSpeak audio recording of the second meeting of the 
SDR Linux User Group has been posted at HamSDR.com in the 
folder SDRLinuxUserGroup.

The direct link to the audio is
http://www.hamsdr.com/dnld.aspx?id=161 

The attendees were:

Bill KD5TFD
Frank AB2KT
John G0ORX/N6LYT
Bob VE3GKM
Bob VK4XV
Brian N5BA
Cecil KD5NWA
Dan N4XWE
Eric AA4SW
Ken N9VV
Kirb VE6IV
Ron AA1VG
Stan KE6ZC
Tom AA8YI
and a couple of "mystery" guests

Highlights include:

An update by Frank, AB2KT, on the current status of Release
2 of the Linux version of DttSP. (It's very close)

Comments by John, G0ORX/N6LYT, on the future direction of 
the Java GUI for dttsp.

Many comments from the group about using ubuntu as a 
"baseline" distribution.

Comments about expanding the group to include BSD and Mac 
OS X users.

Some thoughts on creating a "live" Linux distro with an  
SDR console.

Links to topics:

The ubuntu distro http://www.ubuntu.com
The Java GUI for dttsp http://microsat.homelinux.org/dttsp/
DttSP-Shell http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dttsp-linux/
DttSP CVS http://dttsp.sourceforge.net/

My personal thanks to everyone for their participation.

73,

Dan N4XWE


 

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Hi:
 
New problem developed this morning. I am using a Toshiba laptop with the USB
adapter and a Firebox audio setup. All was working fine last night, but all
of a sudden this morning, when I try to transmit it automatically
"unselects" by USB connection. Windows popup telling me that I need to go to
setup and select "USB connection". When I go there, its been unselected. So
if I select it, the above loop is repeated. I should note that it does allow
me to tune, but not transmit (CW).
I've rebooted, restarted the software and tried installing release 18, all
with the same result. What would cause something like this to happen?
 
Thanks,
Ken N8KJG
 

[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeting (17 March at 0200Z)

[Dan Babcock]

The next TeamSpeak Meeting of the SDRLUG will be Thursday, March 16 at 9:00 PM 
EST (17 March at 0200Z).  
 
 Topics for discussion are:
 
 1)  The pluses (or minuses) of using ubuntu as our baseline distribution.
 2)  Installing DttSP, DttSP-Shell and the Java GUI for dttsp.
 3)  The status of Revison 2 of the DttSP code.
 4)  Expanding the scope of this group to include Mac OS X and BSD users.
 
 We will use a roll call format that is similar to the Friday night TeamSpeak 
sessions.  When we do the roll call everyone is free to talk about whatever 
they like.  However, please try to cover:
 
 1)  Your experience with ubuntu, if any.
 2)  Your experiences with installing DttSP, DttSP-Shell or the Java GUI.
 3)  What you feel is the best focus for this group.
 
 After the roll call we will have an open mic discussion.  This group is for 
every level of experience.  Lurkers are welcome.
 
 73,
 
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Jim Lux wrote:

>At 05:02 AM 3/14/2006, Lee A Crocker wrote:
>  
>
>>I
>>
>>They do A/V functions OK such as DVD playback and word
>>processing and web surfing.  I doubt they would be a
>>stellar performer for the PowerSDR.
>>
>>
>
>But, does it need to be a *stellar* performer, or, just *good 
>enough*.  Clearly, if one is going for compact and embedded, you're going 
>to give up some features. I wouldn't expect to run Symantec Antivirus, XP 
>FastFind, etc., on a dedicated computer for the SDR1000. I, for one, would 
>like *good enough* with long battery life and small size, and that's where 
>the Via product line sort of heads.
>
>
>Jim 
>
>  
>
But, for me, "good enough" means I can run N1MM's logger, or MixW, and 
have something, somewhere autoloading DX spots.

I don't expect the Flex test process or official minimums to account for 
this added ham-related stuff (down that path lies madness).  What I do 
expect, from experience, is that even with ample CPU left over, that the 
more raw horsepower I have laying about, the better things seem to work 
in terms of things like continous audio and the parallel port CW keyer 
working better.  I don't have scientific measurements here.  What I do 
have is an observation that horsepower matters, even when the CPU isn't 
saturated.



Larry   WO0Z

Re: [Flexradio] Building a "Flexible" computer for the future

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Larry,
 
 Funny you should mention Compaq. Depending upon the style of the case, chances 
are the power supply is not a standard (6x3.5x5.5) ATX power supply.  
 
 Having gone through the misery of tracking down a replacement power supply for 
a friend, I was thinking of Compaq while writing the "warning" paragraph.
 
 I bought a laptop last year to replace one that was about five years old.  
There was a world of difference in the number of industry interchangeable 
components in the old versus the new.  Even to the point that there are now 
internal card slots for add on cards (Dell calls them mini pci) similar to PCI 
slots that meet some sort of a standard.  The hard drive configuration is 
standard and the optical drives meet one of two standards.  Standard PCMCIA 
slots still exist.  Batteries, LCD glass and a host of other items remain 
proprietary.  
 
 The SDR-1000 mini-ITX box has a standard laptop hard drive and a laptop 
slimline optical drive.  Those do require a small adapter to interface to the 
mini-ITX IDE cables.  Using a standard 3.5" hard drive is also an option.  Of 
course the best solution is to use a multiple gig Compact Flash card in place 
of the hard drive.
 
 73
 
 Dan N4XWE

Larry Loen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dan Babcock wrote:
[snip]

>  
> A word of warning about purchasing complete systems. Yes, they are less 
> expensive. But many of the larger system guys, Dell, HP and Gateway come to 
> mind, use a few “non-standard” parts. If a component dies, goes obsolete or 
> otherwise needs to be replaced, it may have a non-standard shape, size, 
> mounting hole location or connector that makes replacing it very difficult.
> 
> 
>
This is an excellent point. I should also point out, however, that as 
far as I can make out, this is less prevelant than it used to be and, to 
the extent it happens, is often a good thing. On my current COMPAQ box 
(I don't always roll my own either), the nonstandard bits do not look to 
be a big barrier to upgrades. There's an ingenious set of screws, for 
instance, that are used to mount the hard files without rails and yet 
without screwing them directly into the case either. The screws 
interface to some wonderfully clever bits of plastic mounting that work 
extremely well together. But, the screws themselves must fit into the 
entirely standard holes that come with the hardfile.

Likewise, a single screw holds a special plate that holds in the PCI 
cards. That one I'm not so impressed with, but it seems to work.

It could be, however, that there remains something nonstandard about the 
motherboard that I will discover if it ever needs to be replaced. On the 
other hand, in that case, the worst I would have to do is replace that 
with a generic one and put it in a standard case and power supply. The 
memory, processor, PCI cards, hardfiles, etc. are all standard, so they 
should be easy to replace or to stuff into a more generic case. So, the 
most we should be talking about nowadays are the mother board and, just 
possibly, the power supply. As time has gone by, economics has forced 
even the big volume manufacturers to be more and more standard in their 
products, especially on the desktop (it will be interesting to see if 
laptops become more generic over time).


Larry WO0Z

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Is anyone using a laptop with Flex-Radio?  

While I remain a perspective purchaser of an SDR-1000, when I get one I am
considering using a laptop with a Firewire card to drive a FireBox 6x10. 
Has anyone tried this setup?

Thanks.

73,

Fred Bray
W6WAW

Re: [Flexradio] Building a "Flexible" computer for the future

[Dan Babcock]

The post about buying or building computers started me thinking 
about the genealogy of my “utility” box.  This system was originally built as 
leading edge machine.  It had a high-end Abit motherboard and a Slot A 700 MHz 
CPU.  The case was chosen after an exhaustive search.  It was the highest rated 
one on a now defunct overclocker website.  
 
 Six years later the plastic is brittle and a little yellow around the edges 
and it is missing some hardware, but the case and the floppy drive cable are 
all that is left of that original system.
 
  Adding up the mods yields:
 
 3 Motherboards
 4 CPU's
 3 CPU Coolers
 7 System Memory DIMM's
 4 Sound Cards (A Santa Cruz and Delta 44 are currently installed)
 7 Hard Drives (The first were two RAID configured 20 Gig IBM DeskStars.  The 
most recent are two 160 Gig WD Caviars)
 2 3.5” Floppy Drives
 2 Network Cards (Predating the built-in LAN)
 1 Modem Card (Those were the days)
 3 Power Supplies
 2 UPS's
 3 Keyboards
 4 Mice
 2 Monitors
 2 CD-ROM/DVD Drives (The first was a CD-ROM only)
 3 System Fans
 2 Speaker Systems
 2 Windows Operating Systems
 11 Linux Distributions
 Assorted Cables
  
 The exact amount of my original investment escapes me. My recollection is 
about $1200. Larry's statement is right on target. A modest initial investment 
and two or three hundred dollars a year in new parts has provided me with very 
reliable, maintainable and economic system. It is one of those few things in 
life that works better today than it did yesterday.
  
 I don't always roll my own.  The rest of the "menagerie” includes a Shuttle 
SN25P (64 bit Athlon) that is part of an entertainment system, a notebook and a 
mini-ITX system that has become a dedicated SDR-1000 (Windows and Linux) box.
  
 A word of warning about purchasing complete systems. Yes, they are less 
expensive.  But many of the larger system guys, Dell, HP and Gateway come to 
mind, use a few “non-standard” parts. If a component dies, goes obsolete or 
otherwise needs to be replaced, it may have a non-standard shape, size, 
mounting hole location or connector that makes replacing it very difficult.
 
 
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Dan Babcock wrote:
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>  
> A word of warning about purchasing complete systems. Yes, they are less 
> expensive.  But many of the larger system guys, Dell, HP and Gateway come to 
> mind, use a few “non-standard” parts. If a component dies, goes obsolete or 
> otherwise needs to be replaced, it may have a non-standard shape, size, 
> mounting hole location or connector that makes replacing it very difficult.
> 
> 
>
This is an excellent point. I should also point out, however, that as 
far as I can make out

[Flexradio] SDR Linux User Group Meeeting Audio Posted

[Dan Babcock]

The TeamSpeak audio recording of the inaugural meeting
of the SDR Linux User Group has been posted at
HamSDR.com in the folder SDRLinuxUserGroup.

The direct link is
http://www.hamsdr.com/dnld.aspx?id=146  

The attendees were:

Bill KD5TFD
Bob N4HY
Frank AB2KT
John G0ORX/N6LYT
Phil VK6APH
Bob VE3GKM
Cecil KD5NWA
Dan N4XWE
Don AE5K
Kirb VE6IV
Tom K3IO
Franklin N6NKF
Serge VA3SB
Mike AA8K

John G0ORX/N6LYT developer of the DttSP Java GUI
checked in from the UK. No mean feat at 0300Z.  John
was unfortunately fighting a wireless microphone
problem.  He did make a number of text comments.  The
most significant was during the discussion of the
compatibility of existing DttSP GUI's with the highly
anticipated DttSP Linux revised code.

John G0ORX/N6LYT =>"I would prefer to run on the
standard release.  I added a couple of mods to the
port to support the different displays.  Should only
take me a short time to change the code to support the
new version."

If you are interested in using DttSP with Linux, Mac
OS X or BSD (there are a lot of good reasons that
everyone should be), please drop by for our next
meeting on TeamSpeak.

Details will be announced soon on the SDR reflector.  

73 Dan N4XWE





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Re: [Flexradio] [SDRLUG] Expanding the Scope a Little

[Dan Babcock]

In general, it always seems a plus to be more
inclusive.  

My major concern is the amount of technical support
that can be given to users of other OS's.  I view a
user group as being a comprehensive resource for
multiple levels of expertise.

This isn't to say we couldn't do it with BSD and OSX
users in the future, but today our ability to support
a Linux or DttSP user from the core of the group is
outstanding.  If there is a question, someone can
answer it. 

Can we say the same for the needs of BSD and OSX
users?

73 Dan N4XWE

--- Frank Brickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> With or without PortAudio, jack is advertised as
> running satisfactorily 
> on FreeBSD (on top of OSS) and OSX (on top of
> CoreAudio). It would be 
> nice to have this verified at some point, anyway.
> 
> 73
> Frank
> AB2KT
> 
> n4hy wrote:
> > If Portaudio turns out to be the universal panacea
> it appears to be on 
> > the way to becoming,  we should certainly make
> every attempt to include 
> > them.  Both the java and Qt code will run on the
> Mac.  I know from my 
> > WSJT development experience the *BSD's will run
> the c, p-threads,  
> > python stuff without a lot of hacking.
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Frank Brickle wrote:
> > 
> >> All,
> >>
> >> Just wondering. Is it a good idea to expand the
> group to take in BSD 
> >> and Mac OSX potential users?
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Frank
> >> AB2KT
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Re: [Flexradio] o.k. to advertise Teamspeak meeting?

[Dan Babcock]

Ken,

By all means, go ahead.  I actually belong to two of
those groups.  Probably should have thought about it
myself.

The SDRLUG isn't limited to just licensed amateurs. 
There are a few participants in the groups you cited
that are only interested in SWL'ing, software
development or DSP coding.  

They are welcome, as well.

Thanks.

73

Dan N4XWE

--- Ken - N9VV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
> may I have your permission to advertise the
> Teamspeak "SDR Linux 
> Group" meeting on these three Yahoo groups?
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] On open source development

[Dan Babcock]

John,

Everything is go for this evening (late morning in
your part of the world).

I anticipate the first meeting to be "organizational"
in nature.  I have some definite ideas about the
direction I would like to go.  But having said that,
the success of the group will revolve around meeting
the needs of the group. 

My expectation is that we will have a cross section of
users.  As mentioned in my previous post, I see the
objectives as:

Assisting anyone that would like to install the Debian
Linux distribution. 

Providing assistance to those that have any Linux
distribution up and running, are comfortable with it
and would like to install the TeamSpeak client, the
jsdr core or DttSP-Shell.

Developing utilities, installation packages and
documentation for the jsdr core and DttSP-Shell.

Giving encouragement and feedback to those who are
developing Linux applications.

Developing a self-installing suite of programs in a
live Linux distro (ala Knoppix and Harv's Hamshack)
that would include both application and development
software for the SDR-1000.  This could be on a  CD,
DVD or even an OS on a (memory) stick.

Again, this view is from my personal perspective.  The
actual direction we go remains a fairly large TBD at
the moment.

Hopefully you will be able to make it.  I am looking
forward to your participation.

For anyone who might have missed the first
announcement.  We are having a meeting on TeamSpeak of
the SDR Linux User Group at 0300Z Wednesday.  That is
10:00PM this evening.  


73

Dan N4XWE

--- John Melton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> is this still on tonight (tomorrow morning)?
> 
> John g0orx/n6lyt
> --
>   John Melton
>   SunIT CTO
>   x21708 (+44 1252 421708)
> 
> 
> Robert McGwier wrote:
> > You can't stay awake until 2-3 (4?) AM and join
> us?  Shame on you!
> > 
> > My opinion is it would behoove us to accommodate
> those people who are 
> > doing real development on the SDRLinuxUG topics
> (Melton, Pereira, 
> > etc.).  Pereira and Melton have been providing
> some leadership.  I would 
> > hate to have John not participate or be so sleepy
> his participation 
> > would include lots of snoring.
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John Melton wrote:
> > 
> >>Not an ideal time for us over here in Europe!
> >>
> >>John g0orx/n6lyt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Eric Ellison wrote:
> >>  
> >>
> >>>Jim
> >>>
> >>>Thank you very much again. Excellent discussion.
> And YES it IS what you have
> >>>been saying. I guess I have been also, but in
> more words, not as well
> >>>spoken. Someone has got to 'herd us cats'
> (smile). My vote is Dan since he
> >>>has opened the invitation! I think he is the
> Leader who can finally overcome
> >>>the critical mass. Frank and Bob and Bob have
> given a fantastic amount of
> >>>skill and personal time on this, about time we
> jump on their bandwagon.
> >>>
> >>>I know the tools and talent are out here!
> >>>
> >>>So here is the bottom Line, and the Leader:
> >>>
> >>>Teamspeak An Open Invitation to the Software
> Defined RadioLinux User Group
> >>>Moderator: Dan Babcock - N4XWE
> >>>Time/Date: 0300 UTC on Wednesday, February 22
> >>>
> >>>C U There.
> >>>Eric
> >>>
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Re: [Flexradio] Future of SDR?

[Dan Babcock]

The "preamble" of part 97 reads:

The rules and regulations in this Part are designed to
provide an amateur radio service having a fundamental
purpose as expressed in the following principles:

(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the
amateur service to the public as a voluntary
noncommercial communication service, particularly with
respect to providing emergency communications.

(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven
ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio
art.

(c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur
service through rules which provide for advancing
skills in both the communications and technical phases
of the art.

(d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the
amateur radio service of trained operators,
technicians, and electronics experts.

(e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique
ability to enhance international goodwill. 

Many amateur radio activities barely meet the ideals
set out in one of the above paragraphs.  How many of
those principles fit within what the SDR community is
doing? My count is three resolutely and the other two
peripherally.

My prediction is that in fifteen years, we will look
back on the five years from 2002 to 2007 as having
been halcyon days in the development of radio
technology.

I, for one, am thrilled to be a part of it.

73 

Dan N4XWE



--- Eric Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bob
> 
> One would have to be absolutely blind or have
> 'tunnel vision' not to realize
> the unbelievable potential of this phenomena, which
> with the SDR-1000, we
> are capable, as a group to break new ground on the
> leading edge. Ham radio,
> again is on the forefront of innovation as a group
> of wonderfully talented
> individuals using modern tools to 'move it on' even
> faster than our
> forefathers. 
> 
> We tend to think of our "ssb or cw ragchew" as the
> 'endpoints'
> 
> They are not, although that is mostly what we talk
> about and remains the
> lifeblood of expeimentation. Extend your imagination
> to see the impact, of
> which all of us here are a part (again)!
> 
> The commercial, military and humanitarian
> possibilities for this concept are
> profound. Even in this iteration! Just takes
> software, and simple off the
> shelf hardware.
> 
> A thousand SDR-1000's worldwide on TCP sockets
> listening on a port waiting
> to download a frequency change, or a whole new
> program!.. use your
> imagination.
> 
> Yep FCC did shut down W0RLI packet gateways a few
> years back, then backed
> off? Someone was interested in what might be
> produced! From what I have
> read, they are again and should be! 
> 
> The neat thing, (I think) is the existing hardware
> based machine mfgrs won't
> be able to shift their business model fast enough.
> 
> Each bug has littler bugs to feed upon them and so
> on ad infinitum!
> 
> Just my 2 cents. Probably should have refrained!
> 
> Eric2
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Robert McGwier
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Future of SDR?
> 
> Please note that James has had interaction with
> Gerald and me. He thanks 
> us for the interaction in this paper on page 25. 
> James was at the FCC 
> when Gerald and I met him and the FCC was beginning
> to really put 
> together some pretty bad proposals.   A careful
> reading of this (which 
> Gerald and I helped him edit and on which we
> provided commentary) he 
> views SDR (as do MANY in the FCC) as the savior of
> amateur radio.  
> Please read the first sentence on page 8.
> 
> 
> Bob
> N4HY
> 
> 
> Paul Shaffer wrote:
> > There's no way to search the reflector so I don't
> know if this has come up
> before. 
> > I found this pdf on google:
> >
> >
>
http://web.si.umich.edu/tprc/papers/2005/480/SDR-HAM-JamesMiller.pdf
> >
> > If you were in a pessimistic frame of mind you
> could envision the japanese
> 
> > radio manufacturers supporting an fcc restriction
> on open-source SDR. It
> > has to be some sort of threat to their business
> model.
> > If you have the code you can easily build an SDR
> version that due to bugs
> or
> > design, transmits illegally. This is why I ordered
> the 1 watt version of 
> > the SDR1000 -- if I make a software mistake no one
> may notice. I plan on 
> > using the norcal dummy load most of the time since
> I have no 
> > operational experience whatsoever.
> >
> >  
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> 

Re: [Flexradio] On open source development

[Dan Babcock]

For a number of years, I managed an international
subsidiary of a US aerospace corporation from a New
York office.  The inconvenience (as in I can't even
imagine anyone getting up that early) an 0300 UTC
starting time represents for our European users is not
lost on me.  If we meet earlier in the evening, we
lose the western US.  If we meet later, we lose the
eastern states.  

The solution might be to meet on the weekends or
possibly have two separate weekday sessions with a
combined mp3 recording for later replay.  

There has not been much recent mention on the
Flex-Radio reflector of John's Java GUI for DttSP.  I
have used it with a Softrock v5.0 and it works
superbly. 

Earlier this week John released revised code that
includes some significant enhancements.

I plan to give the new version a try this weekend.

73

Dan N4XWE

--- John Melton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have to do that all too often for work conference
> calls as the group I
> work for are based in the Bay Area and they seem to
> forget that I am 8
> hours ahead of them.  Somehow they remember that the
> East Coast if 3
> hours ahead!
> 
> At least it is better than a couple of years ago
> when I would be told
> there was to be on meeting on a Wednesday, so why
> not catch a flight to
> San Francisco on the Monday or Tuesday and get the
> Wednesday or Thursday
> evening flight back ;-(
> 
> If necessary I will try to stay awake or at least
> wake up for it ;-)
> 
> John
> 
> Robert McGwier wrote On 02/17/06 12:46,:
> > You can't stay awake until 2-3 (4?) AM and join
> us?  Shame on you!
> > 
> > My opinion is it would behoove us to accommodate
> those people who are 
> > doing real development on the SDRLinuxUG topics
> (Melton, Pereira, 
> > etc.).  Pereira and Melton have been providing
> some leadership.  I would 
> > hate to have John not participate or be so sleepy
> his participation 
> > would include lots of snoring.
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John Melton wrote:
> > 
> >>Not an ideal time for us over here in Europe!
> >>
> >>John g0orx/n6lyt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Eric Ellison wrote:
> >>  
> >>
> >>>Jim
> >>>
> >>>Thank you very much again. Excellent discussion.
> And YES it IS what you have
> >>>been saying. I guess I have been also, but in
> more words, not as well
> >>>spoken. Someone has got to 'herd us cats'
> (smile). My vote is Dan since he
> >>>has opened the invitation! I think he is the
> Leader who can finally overcome
> >>>the critical mass. Frank and Bob and Bob have
> given a fantastic amount of
> >>>skill and personal time on this, about time we
> jump on their bandwagon.
> >>>
> >>>I know the tools and talent are out here!
> >>>
> >>>So here is the bottom Line, and the Leader:
> >>>
> >>>Teamspeak An Open Invitation to the Software
> Defined RadioLinux User Group
> >>>Moderator: Dan Babcock - N4XWE
> >>>Time/Date: 0300 UTC on Wednesday, February 22
> >>>
> >>>C U There.
> >>>Eric
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] An Open Invitation to the Software Defined Radio Linux User Group

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Mike,

The reference to counting the number of TeamSpeak
participants was my version of a "straw poll" to see
how many were truly serious about using Linux.  

The installation of TeamSpeak files in Linux is
trivial.  My experience has been that setting the
sound with many distribution, desktop and sound card
combinations is not always easy. 

For a partial listing of Linux Ham Radio Software
check out http://radio.linux.org.au/

For a list of some of the packages in Debian check out
http://packages.debian.org/stable/hamradio/

Look forward to talking with you on Tuesday.

73 Dan N4XWE



--- Mike Naruta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The PC I use for TeamSpeak is not the same one
> I use for the SDR-1000.  In fact, they are in
> different homes.  So, looking at my TeamSpeak
> does not show my SDR-1000 OS.
> 
> I loved Microsoft when they first came out,
> they beat the snot out of TRS-DOS, but I'm
> not pleased with what Windows has become.
> I seem to spend much of my time repairing
> it and closing security flaws.
> 
> I'd like to use Linux for the SDR-1000 if
> there is satellite and digital software
> available.  I love Mozilla and OpenOffice.
> My IRLP PC runs Linux and I rarely have
> to boot it.  I have to boot this PC (XP)
> once or twice a day.  The HP3000s I used
> to manage (MPE) ran YEARS without a boot!
> 
> See you on TeamSpeak Dan.
> 
> Mike - AA8K
> 
> 
> Dan Babcock wrote:
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[Flexradio] An Open Invitation to the Software Defined Radio Linux User Group

[Dan Babcock]

Last year at Dayton, Eric2 and I had a long discussion
about a number of SDR issues including the future of
SDR and Linux. The SDR and Linux combination has been
on my mind for some time. 

Judging from the comments of the past couple of days
it looks like we are ready for an SDR Linux User
Group.  Most Linux user groups use an acronym ending
in LUG.  Software Defined Radio Linux User Group
contracts to SDRLUG, pronounced (if it doesn't sound
too much like a disaffected cadre of Apple users)
Cider Lug.

Among other possible activities, a user group could
make a big impact by:

Assisting anyone that would like to install the Debian
Linux distribution. 

Providing assistance to those that have any Linux
distribution up and running, are comfortable with it
and would like to install the TeamSpeak client, the
jsdr core or DttSP-Shell.

Developing utilities, installation packages and
documentation for the jsdr core and DttSP-Shell.

Giving encouragement and feedback to those who are
developing Linux applications.

Developing a self-installing suite of programs in a
live Linux distro (ala Knoppix and Harv's Hamshack)
that would include both application and development
software for the SDR-1000.  This could be on a  CD,
DVD or even an OS on a (memory) stick.

I am not a Linux Patriot.  I don't give a hoot about
the cathedral and the bazaar or the Evil Empire.  My
knowledge of the Linux OS has come the hard way.  Over
the past few years most Linux distributions have
become an easily installable, very stable, OS with an
avalanche of applications, libraries, development
software and utilities.  Linux is ready for prime
time.

We have a “perfect storm” brewing in the ether that
includes increasingly capable digital electronics,
computer audio hardware, and DSP application software.
 There is no question that the Linux community offers
the widest range of tools for taking advantage of the
SDR opportunities in front of us.  For our purposes
the installed user base is irrelevant.  We want the
best available tools.

When we get together for the weekly Friday night
sessions on TeamSpeak, I do an informal survey of the
operating systems that everyone is using.  This can be
done by highlighting the user and clicking Get
Connection Info with a right-click menu.   Normally,
it is about 20% Linux, 5% Mac and 75% Windows 2000 or
XP. 

OK.  So lets move ahead by getting together on
TeamSpeak next Tuesday evening at 10:00 pm EST.  For
those of us who are world time challenged that is 0300
UTC on Wednesday, February 22.  We will adjust our
times to accommodate everyone as we move forward.  
I'll serve as the “net control.”  If you want to
listen but aren't too excited about talking, just turn
off your microphone.  The session will be recorded,
edited slightly for dead space and posted as an MP3
for later download.

This for everyone.  It doesn't matter if you are
experienced, a noobie or just think the Penguin is
cute.  

Bring your comments, questions and suggestions.  

This is a user group.

73 Dan N4XWE


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Re: [Flexradio] DRM signal on 7073khz?

[Dan Babcock]

Fred, Richard, Joe, Ignacio, et al,

I received a "good natured" private e-mail last night
chiding me for turning the SDR-1000 forum into an
SWL'ers mystery signal forum.  But I think that this
thread should be of interest to the general SDR-1000
population for at least a couple of reasons.

Not all of us are in a location where we have the
opportunity to hear this signal live. But, by using
the IQ wav file record and playback features in the
PowerSDR code we can all take a look at the signal. 
If interested in or knowledgeable about what is there,
we can throw in our two cents worth. If a picture is
worth a thousand words then, at least rhetorically,
what is an IQ wav file worth? 

I suspect (as in wild guess at this point) that the
signals Fred, Richard, and Ignacio are looking at are
HF Digital Voice using the G4GUO protocol.  This mode
can be used for either voice or data (as in SSTV). 
That there are similar looking signals seen in
non-amateur parts of the HF spectrum might be due to
these waveforms being similar to the Advanced
Narrowband Digital Voice Terminal signal that is
generated by a number of military ground and airborne
transceivers. There are also a number of commercial
services worldwide that are using similar protocols
for voice and data transmissions.

For additional information take a look at 

http://www.wunclub.com/digfaq/


There will be a time in the not too distant future
when the PowerSDR or an equivalent Linux program will
have an HF Digital Voice capability or will be
seamlessly integrated to an application that has it. 
After all it's a brave new world out there where our
capabilities are limited only by our imagination.

Fred, I unfortunately it seems now, turned off my ftp
server when leaving Florida a couple of days ago. I
will be back there next Thursday.  Unless you figure
out a better way, maybe you could hold onto the wav
file and send it to me then.  I want to look at the
file with Edson Pereira's DttSP-Shell program.

73 Dan N4XWE





--- Fred Brandeberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dan& others,
>  keep forgetting to mention that I see no sign
> of pilot tones in the 
> waterfall.. I guess that suggests the signal is not
> amateur? Dunno. 
> Interesting how it shows up on a more or less
> globaly recognized "digital" 
> frequency.... hmmm..
> 73,
> Fred
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dan Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "FlexRadio Reflector" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] DRM signal on 7073khz?
> 
> 
> > Fred,
> >
> > Would you or Richard be able to upload a short
> (two or
> > three minute) wave file of the signal to WA8SRA's
> > www.hamsdr.com website?
> >
> > BTW, this website is becoming an outstanding
> source of
> > information for the SDR-1000 and SoftRock
> communities.
> > Thanks, Dale.
> >
> > 73 Dan N4XWE
> >
> > --- Fred Brandeberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>   Hi All,
> >>
> >> Anyone know what the story is on the
> 2.5khz
> >> signal on 7073?  Been on there for quite awhile
> this
> >> evening, about s7 peak here in Albq. NM. Looks
> like
> >> amatuer DRM, covers the space normally used by
> >> PSK31. . .Digtrx does not seem to recognize
> it,
> >> but I don't know what parameters to set.
> >>   73,
> >>   Fred
> >>   WA8KCW>
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Re: [Flexradio] DRM signal on 7073khz?

[Dan Babcock]

Hi Richard,

Record the .wav file using the Pre-Processed Audio
option.

Upload the resulting wav file to the HamSDR website by
going to the home page
http://www.hamsdr.com/Home.aspx.  Log-in and select My
Account => Upload Files.  On the next page select
Public Directory and click the Upload a file button. 
Then follow the directions.

The .wav files can become fairly large very quickly so
2 to 3 minutes is probably the optimum length for
recording.

73 Dan N4XWE

--- richard allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'll be glad to.  How do I do that?
> Richard W5SXD
> 
> Dan Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (01/26/2006 15:45)
> 
> >Fred,
> >
> >Would you or Richard be able to upload a short (two
> or
> >three minute) wave file of the signal to WA8SRA's
> >www.hamsdr.com website?
> >
> >BTW, this website is becoming an outstanding source
> of
> >information for the SDR-1000 and SoftRock
> communities.
> > Thanks, Dale.
> >
> >73 Dan N4XWE
> >
> >--- Fred Brandeberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >>   Hi All,
> >> 
> >> Anyone know what the story is on the
> 2.5khz 
> >> signal on 7073?  Been on there for quite awhile
> this
> >> evening, about s7 peak here in Albq. NM. Looks
> like
> >> amatuer DRM, covers the space normally used by
> >> PSK31. . .Digtrx does not seem to recognize
> it,
> >> but I don't know what parameters to set.
> >>   73,
> >>   Fred
> >>   WA8KCW>
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Re: [Flexradio] DRM signal on 7073khz?

[Dan Babcock]

Fred,

Would you or Richard be able to upload a short (two or
three minute) wave file of the signal to WA8SRA's
www.hamsdr.com website?

BTW, this website is becoming an outstanding source of
information for the SDR-1000 and SoftRock communities.
 Thanks, Dale.

73 Dan N4XWE

--- Fred Brandeberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>   Hi All,
> 
> Anyone know what the story is on the 2.5khz 
> signal on 7073?  Been on there for quite awhile this
> evening, about s7 peak here in Albq. NM. Looks like
> amatuer DRM, covers the space normally used by
> PSK31. . .Digtrx does not seem to recognize it,
> but I don't know what parameters to set.
>   73,
>   Fred
>   WA8KCW>
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Re: [Flexradio] Linux and Santa Cruz

[Dan Babcock]

Bob,

ALSA has a very nice utilities package
(alsa-utils)that among others contains a very useful
utility called "alsaconf."  

You can inquire if it is already installed on your OS
by typing in a terminal (as root) "which alsaconf." If
that command returns /usr/sbin/alsaconf or something
similar, alsaconf is already installed. If that is the
case then start alsaconf by typing in (as root) the
full path and file name for the executable, ie.,
/usr/sbin/alsaconf.  

The alsaconf utility will query your OS to find the
hardware configuration of the audio system.  It will
then configure ALSA to run correctly.  With the Santa
Cruz sound card, there should be a 99% certainty it
will set up ALSA correctly.

If the alsaconf utility is not found by the "which"
command, first try to finding the alsa-utils RPM for
your distribution and installing it.  If there is no
available RPM, a tarball for alsa-utils can be found
on the ALSA website http://www.alsa-project.org/

There is another utility called alsamixergui that
provides an easy to use graphical user interface to 
the alsa mixer.  It can also be found in most cases as
an RPM for a specific distro or as a tarball on the
ALSA website.

By the way the ALSA Project website has, not
trivially, a treasure trove of information about ALSA
either on the site or available via sumerous links. 
Great reading if your are interested in those sort of
things. 

73,

Dan N4XWE


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Does anyone out there in SDR1000 land have a Santa
> Cruz card working under
> Linux? I have tried everything I know and everything
> the ALSA site knows,
> but capture just refuses to capture. The card
> appears to be configured
> correctly and all the trouble shooting hints show
> everything to be dandy. I
> have followed all the recommended mixer settings and
> just about every
> combination that wasn't recommended. I have compiled
> all the latest stable
> releases to no avail. I can get lovely crosstalk but
> that's all I get. I can
> play a sound file with asound, but alas alsaplayer
> segfaults.
> 
>  
> 
> I have been using Mandrake 10.1 on a USB drive for
> all the above. I tried
> Knoppix live CD which did a great job of detecting
> my hardware and even the
> Santa Cruz. I got exactly the same problem and the
> Knoppix release was using
> OSS not ALSA. Not to be beaten I had a live CD copy
> of Suse 9.3 which
> unfortunately failed to detect any sound cards.
> 
>  
> 
> I'm not complaining mind you, it's been very
> instructional and I have learnt
> a lot about ALSA and Jack and despite everything
> they are still my friends.
> 
>  
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob
> 



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