Re: [Flexradio] Mic Cord
Don, Go the the Flex Radio web site, click on "Buy", then click on "Microphones & Cables", then click "FLEX-6000". You should now see the mics and cables available for your radio. From your description you have the "Heil HM-Pro Microphone" shown in the middle of the page. The cable just to the left of it labeled "HM-PRO Mic Cable for 8-pin Foster connector" should be what you need. This is Heil part number ACC-CC1Y. You can get it from Flex-Radio, any number of ham radio stores, or from Heil directly. Roger WA1NVC Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 19:38:54 -0600 From: "Don Plunkett" To: Subject: [Flexradio] Mic Cord I have just purchased a 6300 which made my HM Heil Pro obsolete because of the cord connections . can anyone recommend where I can get a new cord that is compatible with the 6300 and the Heil mic? Thanks . Don VA6FH ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Cord
You need the 8 pin Foster, not the 8 pin RJ-45. --- Graham / KE9H On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Mike Rhodes wrote: > > > > Seem to remember something about the mic common lead vs the shield > connections and RFI or is that just on the legacy radios? > > Mike / W8DN > > > On 6/14/2015 1:36 PM, Dave wrote: > >> Should be the Heil CC-1-Y cable. >> >> 4 pin XLR to 8 pin Yaesu. >> >> Dave wo2x >> >> >> On 6/14/2015 1:30 PM, David Fisher wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I have just purchased a 6300 which made my HM Heil Pro obsolete >>> because of >>> the cord connections . can anyone recommend where I can get a new >>> cord that >>> is compatible with the 6300 and the Heil mic? >>> >>> >>> Thanks . Don >>> >>> >>> VA6FH >>> >>> ___ >>> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >>> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >>> To opt out of the Reflector: >>> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >>> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >>> To opt out of the Reflector: >>> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >>> >> >> >> ___ >> FlexRadio Systems Mailing List >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> To opt out of the Reflector: >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz >> >> >> > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > To opt out of the Reflector: > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Cord
Seem to remember something about the mic common lead vs the shield connections and RFI or is that just on the legacy radios? Mike / W8DN On 6/14/2015 1:36 PM, Dave wrote: Should be the Heil CC-1-Y cable. 4 pin XLR to 8 pin Yaesu. Dave wo2x On 6/14/2015 1:30 PM, David Fisher wrote: I have just purchased a 6300 which made my HM Heil Pro obsolete because of the cord connections . can anyone recommend where I can get a new cord that is compatible with the 6300 and the Heil mic? Thanks . Don VA6FH ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Cord
Should be the Heil CC-1-Y cable. 4 pin XLR to 8 pin Yaesu. Dave wo2x On 6/14/2015 1:30 PM, David Fisher wrote: I have just purchased a 6300 which made my HM Heil Pro obsolete because of the cord connections . can anyone recommend where I can get a new cord that is compatible with the 6300 and the Heil mic? Thanks . Don VA6FH ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Cord
I have just purchased a 6300 which made my HM Heil Pro obsolete because of the cord connections . can anyone recommend where I can get a new cord that is compatible with the 6300 and the Heil mic? Thanks . Don VA6FH ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Cord
From Heil or a Heil dealer. The wiring is standard 8 pin Yaesu. Dave wo2x On 6/13/2015 9:38 PM, Don Plunkett wrote: I have just purchased a 6300 which made my HM Heil Pro obsolete because of the cord connections . can anyone recommend where I can get a new cord that is compatible with the 6300 and the Heil mic? Thanks . Don VA6FH ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
[Flexradio] Mic Cord
I have just purchased a 6300 which made my HM Heil Pro obsolete because of the cord connections . can anyone recommend where I can get a new cord that is compatible with the 6300 and the Heil mic? Thanks . Don VA6FH ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz To opt out of the Reflector: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Yah I always get the usual yer 599 w/great sounding and cool looking D-104 audio when I use mine. But I prefer some others that just don't have the cool looks! Heil,Shure,Kenwood, and one cheapo guitar store mic. I am accepting other freebies if you will pay the shipping! To each their own. 73 Jay - NO5J On 1/9/2014 4:51 PM, manual...@juno.com wrote: I use a D-104 with the Flex 5000 many times cause it looks cool and works well. Pete, wa2cwa http://www.manualman.com On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:41:44 -0600 "Patrick Greenlee" writes: Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there and you can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument against the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and gluing a plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool for the job. You find me something that has more capability for the buck as applied to ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. Patrick NJ5G -Original Message- From: Scott Blixt Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need to make it work with the Flex? On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just OK... ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ -- Jay - NO5J n...@no5j.org ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I'm using an Audio Technica ATR30 with the built-in equalizer in my 5000A. The mic has a frequency response of 60~15kHz, is designed for vocals, and cost $30. And I get the famed "unsolicited reports of great audio" using it. Personally, I just can't see spending huge bucks on a microphone for SSB. But then again, I'm not into the "Single Wideband" nonsense, either.. 73, Jim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I had a Heil 781 and got better reports with a D-104. All mikes used with my 5000 got reports of being bassy until I skewed the response WAY WAY down on the low frequencies On Thursday, January 9, 2014 6:13 PM, William H. Fite wrote: Obviously (at least I hope it was obvious), I was being facetious about using a Neumann 150, which currently runs on the order of $6500 a copy. I'm a happy Heil owner and I agree that Bob has done the amateur community a great service over the years. But...so often we speak to each other as if the only choices were Heil or some ten cent POS that it is wise to remind ourselves once in a while that there are many, many mics out there, including relatively inexpensive studio mics that will beat the pants off anything from Heil. And that is no slam at Heil. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:51 PM, wrote: > I use a D-104 with the Flex 5000 many times cause it looks cool and works > well. > > Pete, wa2cwa > http://www.manualman.com/ > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:41:44 -0600 "Patrick Greenlee" > writes: > > Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there > > and you > > can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument > > against > > the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and > > gluing a > > plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. > > > > Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool > > for the > > job. > > > > You find me something that has more capability for the buck as > > applied to > > ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. > > > > Patrick NJ5G > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Scott Blixt > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > > > I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need > > to make > > it work with the Flex? > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It > > was just > > > OK... > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > -- I can explain it for you, but I can't comprehend it for you. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Obviously (at least I hope it was obvious), I was being facetious about using a Neumann 150, which currently runs on the order of $6500 a copy. I'm a happy Heil owner and I agree that Bob has done the amateur community a great service over the years. But...so often we speak to each other as if the only choices were Heil or some ten cent POS that it is wise to remind ourselves once in a while that there are many, many mics out there, including relatively inexpensive studio mics that will beat the pants off anything from Heil. And that is no slam at Heil. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:51 PM, wrote: > I use a D-104 with the Flex 5000 many times cause it looks cool and works > well. > > Pete, wa2cwa > http://www.manualman.com > > On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:41:44 -0600 "Patrick Greenlee" > writes: > > Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there > > and you > > can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument > > against > > the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and > > gluing a > > plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. > > > > Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool > > for the > > job. > > > > You find me something that has more capability for the buck as > > applied to > > ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. > > > > Patrick NJ5G > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Scott Blixt > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > > > I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need > > to make > > it work with the Flex? > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It > > was just > > > OK... > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > -- I can explain it for you, but I can't comprehend it for you. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I use a D-104 with the Flex 5000 many times cause it looks cool and works well. Pete, wa2cwa http://www.manualman.com On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:41:44 -0600 "Patrick Greenlee" writes: > Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there > and you > can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument > against > the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and > gluing a > plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. > > Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool > for the > job. > > You find me something that has more capability for the buck as > applied to > ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. > > Patrick NJ5G > > -Original Message- > From: Scott Blixt > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need > to make > it work with the Flex? > > > > On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It > was just > > OK... ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Here is a vote for the Heil PR40. Plenty of other mikes out there and you can discuss mikes to death but I have never heard a good argument against the PR40 other than it cost more than using a crystal ear bud and gluing a plastic funnel to it and shouting into the funnel. Why drive a screw with a hammer when there is a perfectly good tool for the job. You find me something that has more capability for the buck as applied to ham radio and I might want one. Hasn't happened yet. Patrick NJ5G -Original Message- From: Scott Blixt Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 4:23 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need to make it work with the Flex? On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just OK... Scott Blixt A Minnesota MadMan ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ No infections found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need to make it work with the Flex? On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote: > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just > OK... Scott Blixt A Minnesota MadMan ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Never meant to imply, suggest the Heil was the only choice, just one of two items in this and very frequent/popular discussions, and perhaps an obvious made-for-ham use option without special cables, EQ/mixer, etc. I'd love to have a Neumann though I don't know what I would do with it. I have dealt with and heard (not enjoyed) an overwhelming number of mis-handled SM58s and such and when I can get a performer to disconnect his "guitar store" mic and try something like a PR35 and everyone notices in about 8 bars it's better for them... done. I wear what fits. What fits me may not fit others. Your mileage may vary. (I will add that if Bob really does as much for entry to and enjoyment of ham radio as I believe, he's done as much or more for educating the hobby in digestible ways on truly practical and useful things as well or better than the ARRL/QST has, so I'm happy to pay his firm a fair price for an effective product I enjoy. Like Flex, made in America by people who understand and care about their customers! I don't see Icom, Kenwood or Yaesu as concerned.) From: William H. Fite To: Bob Kay Cc: Jim Aspinwall ; "flexradio@flex-radio.biz" Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations My primary mic is a Heil 781 but I feel compelled to point out that there are MANY alternatives. It is by no means a choice between Heil and a five buck electret. Shop around. Guys who obsess over their audio quality might want a Neumann M-150. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Bob Kay wrote: Check out the details on w1aex web page about his cheap mic. I use a PR40 >and the mic that w1aex describes. As a cheap mic I get many good audio >reports from both. > > >On Thursday, January 9, 2014, Jim Aspinwall wrote: > >> >> >> Observations: Heil vs. electret... >> >> If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on HamNation, >> etc. some things become compelling... >> >> - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background noise, >> front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn >> equipment...) >> >> - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local >> voice source and cancelling back and side background >> >> >> - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally >> poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll be >> into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at all. >> OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. >> - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and >> much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. >> - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use >> from AM through DX >> >> >> - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, another >> complication >> - Heil - no bias >> >> >> I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the >> Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default Flex >> settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even better. >> >> Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, >> external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - >> WONDERFUL. >> >> Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all the >> hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr >> Microphone element. >> >> (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very >> well under many rigs/conditions.) >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 >> From: > >> To: > > >> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Jim, >> >> I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just >> OK... >> >> I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement >> electret >> element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex >> 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you >> want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in the >> Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech >> processing unit. >> >> http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ >> http
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I agree with William. I was involved in the broadcast biz and happened to own a md441 Sennheiser (sp?) dynamic mic. Awesome sound that gets great reports. But how much you want to spend has more to do with it. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:11 PM, "William H. Fite" wrote: > > My primary mic is a Heil 781 but I feel compelled to point out that there > are MANY alternatives. It is by no means a choice between Heil and a five > buck electret. > > Shop around. Guys who obsess over their audio quality might want a Neumann > M-150. > > >> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Bob Kay wrote: >> >> Check out the details on w1aex web page about his cheap mic. I use a PR40 >> and the mic that w1aex describes. As a cheap mic I get many good audio >> reports from both. >> >>> On Thursday, January 9, 2014, Jim Aspinwall wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Observations: Heil vs. electret... >>> >>> If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on >> HamNation, >>> etc. some things become compelling... >>> >>> - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background >> noise, >>> front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn >>> equipment...) >>> >>> - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local >>> voice source and cancelling back and side background >>> >>> >>> - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally >>> poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll >> be >>> into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at >> all. >>> OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. >>> - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and >>> much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. >>> - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use >>> from AM through DX >>> >>> >>> - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, >> another >>> complication >>> - Heil - no bias >>> >>> >>> I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the >>> Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default >> Flex >>> settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even >> better. >>> >>> Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, >>> external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - >>> WONDERFUL. >>> >>> Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all >> the >>> hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr >>> Microphone element. >>> >>> (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very >>> well under many rigs/conditions.) >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 >>> From: > >>> To: > >>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>>reply-type=original >>> >>> Jim, >>> >>> I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just >>> OK... >>> >>> I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement >>> electret >>> element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex >>> 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you >>> want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in >> the >>> Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech >>> processing unit. >>> >>> http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ >>> http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf >>> >>> Roger >>> WA1NVC >>> >>> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 >>> From: James Eastham > >>> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz >>> Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations >>> Message-ID: > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about >>> upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for >
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
My primary mic is a Heil 781 but I feel compelled to point out that there are MANY alternatives. It is by no means a choice between Heil and a five buck electret. Shop around. Guys who obsess over their audio quality might want a Neumann M-150. On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Bob Kay wrote: > Check out the details on w1aex web page about his cheap mic. I use a PR40 > and the mic that w1aex describes. As a cheap mic I get many good audio > reports from both. > > On Thursday, January 9, 2014, Jim Aspinwall wrote: > > > > > > > Observations: Heil vs. electret... > > > > If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on > HamNation, > > etc. some things become compelling... > > > > - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background > noise, > > front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn > > equipment...) > > > > - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local > > voice source and cancelling back and side background > > > > > > - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally > > poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll > be > > into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at > all. > > OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. > > - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and > > much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. > > - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use > > from AM through DX > > > > > > - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, > another > > complication > > - Heil - no bias > > > > > > I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the > > Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default > Flex > > settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even > better. > > > > Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, > > external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - > > WONDERFUL. > > > > Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all > the > > hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr > > Microphone element. > > > > (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very > > well under many rigs/conditions.) > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 > > From: > > > To: > > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Jim, > > > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just > > OK... > > > > I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement > > electret > > element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex > > 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you > > want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in > the > > Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech > > processing unit. > > > > http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ > > http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf > > > > Roger > > WA1NVC > > > > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 > > From: James Eastham > > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > > Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > > Message-ID: > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about > > upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for > > other 3K owners.I had a QSO the other day with someone who > recommended > > to just use a basic computer MIC as in $9.95 Electret. What I really > > want is to have great sounding audio and would consider a preamp box I've > > heard people use ...or would a high quality mic make that unnecessary? > > Thanks > > > > Jim > > NX3Z > > ___ > > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > > Knowl
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Check out the details on w1aex web page about his cheap mic. I use a PR40 and the mic that w1aex describes. As a cheap mic I get many good audio reports from both. On Thursday, January 9, 2014, Jim Aspinwall wrote: > > > Observations: Heil vs. electret... > > If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on HamNation, > etc. some things become compelling... > > - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background noise, > front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn > equipment...) > > - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local > voice source and cancelling back and side background > > > - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally > poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll be > into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at all. > OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. > - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and > much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. > - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use > from AM through DX > > > - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, another > complication > - Heil - no bias > > > I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the > Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default Flex > settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even better. > > Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, > external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - > WONDERFUL. > > Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all the > hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr > Microphone element. > > (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very > well under many rigs/conditions.) > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 > From: > > To: > > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Jim, > > I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just > OK... > > I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement > electret > element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex > 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you > want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in the > Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech > processing unit. > > http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ > http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf > > Roger > WA1NVC > > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 > From: James Eastham > > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about > upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for > other 3K owners.I had a QSO the other day with someone who recommended > to just use a basic computer MIC as in $9.95 Electret. What I really > want is to have great sounding audio and would consider a preamp box I've > heard people use ...or would a high quality mic make that unnecessary? > Thanks > > Jim > NX3Z > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > -- *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we don't ask"* ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Observations: Heil vs. electret... If you work through the Heil site and a couple of his videos on HamNation, etc. some things become compelling... - Electrets are VERY sensitive and will pick up a lot of background noise, front, back, left, right, etc. (fannoise, kids, cats, dogs, lawn equipment...) - Heils are designed with acoustic shaping for front pickup of a local voice source and cancelling back and side background - Electrets have little or no native spectral response shaping, generally poor on the lo-end, extended high end (useless) spectral range so you'll be into the equalizer settings a lot to get things sounding right, if at all. OK for shotgun and 'bug' mics, not great for radio. - Heil's ham line are almost perfect un-equalized for ham voice use and much more tolerant avoiding pop, hiss, RF, etc. - Heil's pro line can be amazingly and easily well tailored for ham use from AM through DX - Electrets require DC bias - opportunities for RF, hum intrusion, another complication - Heil - no bias I have the Heil HM-Pro, GM-5 and HM-10 and Yaesu and Kenwood cables - the Yaesu cable is a direct plug-in for the Flex. Out of the box default Flex settings work good, properly setup for gain, EQ, ALC, DX, etc. even better. Recently acquired a PR35, made an adapter cable to the Yaesu cable, external PTT 'dongle' - ran through the recommended audio level setups - WONDERFUL. Given the option - a LOT of reasons to use a Heil in your hand vs. all the hassle and potential issues using $5 worth of "kiddie tape recorder" Mr Microphone element. (don't get a dime for this endorsement, just know what has worked very well under many rigs/conditions.) Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:22:55 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Jim, I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just OK... I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement electret element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in the Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech processing unit. http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf Roger WA1NVC Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 From: James Eastham To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for other 3K owners. I had a QSO the other day with someone who recommended to just use a basic computer MIC as in $9.95 Electret. What I really want is to have great sounding audio and would consider a preamp box I've heard people use ...or would a high quality mic make that unnecessary? Thanks Jim NX3Z ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations
Jim, I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just OK... I had an old fashioned Astatic D-104 with the $20 W2ENY replacement electret element that I used with my IC-756ProIII. This works great with my Flex 3000. It has a flat response unlike the speech peaked Heil HM-5. If you want to tailor the W2ENY element, use the 10 band graphic equalizer in the Flex 3000. I would not waste your money on an expensive outboard speech processing unit. http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/ http://w2eny.com/D104Replacement/instructions.pdf Roger WA1NVC Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:53:51 -0500 From: James Eastham To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Mic recommendations Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for other 3K owners.I had a QSO the other day with someone who recommended to just use a basic computer MIC as in $9.95 Electret. What I really want is to have great sounding audio and would consider a preamp box I've heard people use ...or would a high quality mic make that unnecessary? Thanks Jim NX3Z ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic recommendations
I'm currently using a Heil HM-5 Mic with my Flex 3K. I'm thinking about upgrading and looking for recommendations on what has worked well for other 3K owners.I had a QSO the other day with someone who recommended to just use a basic computer MIC as in $9.95 Electret. What I really want is to have great sounding audio and would consider a preamp box I've heard people use ...or would a high quality mic make that unnecessary? Thanks Jim NX3Z -Original Message- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 1:00 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: FlexRadio Digest, Vol 105, Issue 6 Send FlexRadio mailing list submissions to flexradio@flex-radio.biz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to flexradio-requ...@flex-radio.biz You can reach the person managing the list at flexradio-ow...@flex-radio.biz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of FlexRadio digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Heads Up re SSD Drive Issue (Simon Brown) 2. Re: Heads Up re SSD Drive Issue (Phil Cragg) 3. Re: Heads Up re SSD Drive Issue (Steve Conklin) 4. Re: Heads Up re SSD Drive Issue (William H. Fite) 5. Re: Heads Up re SSD Drive Issue (William H. Fite) 6. SFI is 215! (vtnn...@comcast.net) 7. FlexKnob Tuning Lag (Peter West) 8. Re: Important Flex SDR Performance Factors (Patrick Greenlee) 9. Re: Important Flex SDR Performance Factors (William H. Fite) 10. Re: Important Flex SDR Performance Factors (Greg Jurrens) 11. S Meter minimum (Bill Feldkamp) 12. Re: Multiple PowerSDR Sessions (Tim Ellison, W4TME) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 19:39:26 +0100 From: "Simon Brown" To: "'William H. Fite'" ,"'Keith Goobie'" Cc: 'FlexRadio Reflector' Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Heads Up re SSD Drive Issue Message-ID: <01ef01cf0a45$7642bc60$62c83520$@sdr-radio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Seconded, Samsung 840 series are excellent. Simon Brown (G4ELI/HB9DRV) http://v2.sdr-radio.com -Original Message- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of William H. Fite The Samsung 840 Pro line of SSD drives has an excellent reputation. Between my spouse and I, we are running six of them and have never had a hiccough or a burp. -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:45:00 - From: "Phil Cragg" To: "'William H. Fite'" Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Heads Up re SSD Drive Issue Message-ID: <002201cf0a46$3e1ab580$ba502080$@headstartpets.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Collins English dictionary spells it hiccup. Phil G3UGK -Original Message- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of William H. Fite Sent: 05 January 2014 17:59 To: Keith Goobie Cc: FlexRadio Reflector Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Heads Up re SSD Drive Issue The Samsung 840 Pro line of SSD drives has an excellent reputation. Between my spouse and I, we are running six of them and have never had a hiccough or a burp. (Why is hiccup spelled that way? One of nature's mysteries, I guess.) Happy New Year to all. Bill KJ4SLP On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Keith Goobie wrote: > > There are known / reported issues with Crucial SSD, made even worse > when Crucial tried to dump a large number of these units on the > markets for very attractive too good to be true prices. It forced us > to rebuild a DSTAR site twice, before we uncovered the problem / deception. > > Moved to a new drive and all sorted. > > CRUCIAL SSD = CRAP > > Keith > > > > >> --- Original message --- >> Subject: [Flexradio] Heads Up re SSD Drive Issue >> From: TM >> To: >> Date: Friday, 03/01/2014 6:42 PM >> >> Just thought I would let the list know about a recent problem I had >> with the Crucial (Micron) 128 GB SSD on my machine. The machine is >> about 2 years old (HP i7-2600, 3.4 GHz, 16 GB RAM, Win 7 64 Pro) and >> has been very solid until a few weeks ago. Started getting lots of >> weird freezes that progressively became worse until the box would >> only run for about 30 minutes until crashing into a BSOD. Crash was >> so bad that windows did not even do a dump to help in debugging. >> Really had me stumped trying to find cause. >> >> Long story short - Crucial had a bug in the SSD firmware that >> resulted in the drive becoming unstable after reaching 5184 hours of >> total use. The problem is well documented on their website, and their >> technical support folks are some of the very best I have found. >> Downloaded the new firmware which totally fixed the issue. >> >> This rea
[Flexradio] mic for 3000
I use the Heil Pro40. With the right eq, I don't think you can beat it. It's built like a tank and makes no apologies. Also, a British made "Pop Filter" available for this mic will bring out the best. Jim Broaddus de nx4e Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic for 1500 - will MH59A8J work?
From past list reports, the Yaesu MH-31A8J will work for the Flex 1500. A similar mic is the MH-59A8J which includes DTMF keypad. Can anyone confirm: 1. Will the MH-59A8J work as a PTT mic for the 1500? 2. If so, will the DTMF tone generation also work? Thanks, Don AE5K ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Gain Settings
On 12/8/2011 6:54 PM, Joe Word wrote: I have been told there is a write-up on how to set-up the various mic levels (mic gain, EQ, Mixer and etc), could some one point me to this? Joe N9VX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ htp://www.flexradiowiki.com -- Venlig hilsen - Best regards - Erik Jakobsen Licensed HAM-RADIO with the callsign OZ4KK http://www.urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 with http://counter.li.org ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic Gain Settings
I have been told there is a write-up on how to set-up the various mic levels (mic gain, EQ, Mixer and etc), could some one point me to this? Joe N9VX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic cable adapter for F3K
John, There is no "industry standard" pin-out for the 8-pin foster connector. Each manufacturer does it their own way. The Flex radios match the Yeasu pin-out, not the Kenwood. Your adapter cable was undoubtedly made correctly; it just wasn't the correct one for your microphone. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic cable adapter for F3K
FlexRadio mic connectors are pinned out using Yaesu standards, not Kenwood. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:28 PM, John Brewster wrote: > I've been on the air with my new F3K doing CW for about 2 months and loving > it. Decided it was time to try SSB so ordered the RJ-45 to 8 pin male Foster > adapter cable hoping that my Kenwood MC42S microphone would now be able to > operate with the F3K. Well, with high expectations, I plugged it all > together and got nothing. Push-to-talk didn't work and neither did the mic. > A little scientific investigation revealed that the cable connections > between the Foster and RJ-45 connectors weren't correct for my mic. So I > spent a few hours resoldering the cable connections (got it wrong the first > try) and now it works. So my question is did I get an incorrectly made > adapter cable or are the Kenwood mic pinouts different from the industry > standard. And, if I get a new mic with a Foster connector am I likely to > have to re-adapt my adapter cable for it? Thanks for any insights. > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > -- -Tim ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic cable adapter for F3K
I've been on the air with my new F3K doing CW for about 2 months and loving it. Decided it was time to try SSB so ordered the RJ-45 to 8 pin male Foster adapter cable hoping that my Kenwood MC42S microphone would now be able to operate with the F3K. Well, with high expectations, I plugged it all together and got nothing. Push-to-talk didn't work and neither did the mic. A little scientific investigation revealed that the cable connections between the Foster and RJ-45 connectors weren't correct for my mic. So I spent a few hours resoldering the cable connections (got it wrong the first try) and now it works. So my question is did I get an incorrectly made adapter cable or are the Kenwood mic pinouts different from the industry standard. And, if I get a new mic with a Foster connector am I likely to have to re-adapt my adapter cable for it? Thanks for any insights. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic
On 4/27/2011 5:13 PM, Michael Tondee wrote: I use what is basically the "shell" of a D-104 with a Heil HC-5 element. I've altered the wiring over the years to work with different rigs and just recently cut one end of a CAT5 cable and wired it into the terminal strip on the inside bottom of the D-104 to accommodate my Flex 1500. I love the "retro" looks of the D-104 with my ultra modern computer based SDR station as a backdrop. I don't what to say about the current commercial offerings out there except to say that the Heil element has always garnered me good audio reports over many different brands of radios over the years. I think it's a shame that Heil made the decision to quit offering the elements separately. Hope nothing ever happens to mine. I think any of the nicer versions of the Heil line would be great. 73, Michael, W4HIJ I've done that same thing at times with an electret element, and agree that the D-104 just has a special look, especially when contrasted against modern gear. WA1QIX, who designs and builds class E AM gear and has one of the nicest signals I've heard swears by the little $3 radio shack microphone. Flat response, cheap, simple, same circuit as we've been talking about for the aviation headsets (which mostly use electrets in their microphones). Take what ever dead, pretty, microphone you have and graft an electret element into it and you might have all you need. Especially with the 10 band EQ in the Flex. Heil mikes, music mikes, classic radio mikes, aviation headsets, inexpensive electret elements - isn't it nice to have choices? :-) de Kevin, WB2EMS ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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I use what is basically the "shell" of a D-104 with a Heil HC-5 element. I've altered the wiring over the years to work with different rigs and just recently cut one end of a CAT5 cable and wired it into the terminal strip on the inside bottom of the D-104 to accommodate my Flex 1500. I love the "retro" looks of the D-104 with my ultra modern computer based SDR station as a backdrop. I don't what to say about the current commercial offerings out there except to say that the Heil element has always garnered me good audio reports over many different brands of radios over the years. I think it's a shame that Heil made the decision to quit offering the elements separately. Hope nothing ever happens to mine. I think any of the nicer versions of the Heil line would be great. 73, Michael, W4HIJ On 4/26/2011 1:26 PM, K0DAN wrote: I have a nice Electrovoice RE10, RE16, and 664 I would consider selling. Also a number of D104's. I agree with other posts that Heil is a very popular and overpriced; you don't need to buy a "ham" microphone to get great audio and plug & play compatibility (or worst case, you or someone solders a new connector on a mic). There are some very good products, used & new, at great prices, if you shop the music, public address, and stage market. The Electrovoices I mention above are from this marketplace (the D104's not). The Flex has so much audio processing power, just about any mic can be made to sound good, it just takes a little reading & experimentation. GL es 73 Dan K0DAN - Original Message - From: "Larry Otto" To: "FlexRadio Reflector" Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: [Flexradio] Mic Hello All - I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on my shopping list is a good quality microphone for my F5K. Where better to get some ideas than here? From top to bottom, what do you guys use, what do you recommend? Tnx 73 W8LO Larry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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Thanks to all who replied. Quite a response ! 73 W8LO Larry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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Bill & Brian, Thanks for letting me know about most aviation headsets being stereo now. I will admit that my experience with them is a little dated. I spent 27 years in Civil Air Patrol, but retired about 8 years ago & haven't much exposure to light aircraft since. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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Actually, Ray, the majority of av headsets made today are stereo. On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 9:41 PM, K9DUR wrote: > One comment about using aviation-type headsets with the Flex radios. All > of > them that I am aware of are mono earphones. You really do not get the full > benefit of the receive signal unless you have stereo headphones. The > ability to pan the main RX signal to one ear & the MUltiRX (or RX2) signal > to the other ear is invaluable when working a pileup. > > I know that the original question was about what mic to use, but others > brought up the subject of aviation headsets. As far as the mic is > concerned, I am a member of the group that says use anything that works & > adjust the response using the equalizer to get the sound you want. > > 73, Ray, K9DUR > http://k9dur.info > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 6:41 PM, K9DUR wrote: > One comment about using aviation-type headsets with the Flex radios. All > of > them that I am aware of are mono earphones. It depends on which ones you get now. Nowadays you have to go out of your way to get a mono headset. > You really do not get the full > benefit of the receive signal unless you have stereo headphones. The > ability to pan the main RX signal to one ear & the MUltiRX (or RX2) signal > to the other ear is invaluable when working a pileup. > I agree. > > I know that the original question was about what mic to use, but others > brought up the subject of aviation headsets. As far as the mic is > concerned, I am a member of the group that says use anything that works & > adjust the response using the equalizer to get the sound you want. > I agree on that too. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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I do have a suggestion since I haven't bothered to pull the foam out of my flightcoms (the mike is simple, see QST April 2010 page 65) But it would seem that some of those headsets might be stereo already. If not I see no reason why a person couldn't simply simply rewire the headset to suit! I certainly agree that it is desirable to use stereo. But anyone with some cable, a small phillips screwdriver and an American Beauty soldering iron should be able to do any rewiring needed. Of course, if you are one of the current generation of hams who can't solder and whose knowledge of electronics is limited to what can be found in a license manual you might have trouble. A more serious problem for me is the fact that my cat chewed off the mike foam. 73 Lee K9WRU - Original Message - From: "K9DUR" To: "'Tim Ellison'" ; "'Larry Otto'" ; "'FlexRadio Reflector'" Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic One comment about using aviation-type headsets with the Flex radios. All of them that I am aware of are mono earphones. You really do not get the full benefit of the receive signal unless you have stereo headphones. The ability to pan the main RX signal to one ear & the MUltiRX (or RX2) signal to the other ear is invaluable when working a pileup. > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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I'll give a positive to Heil's Pro Set Elite. The mike is flat, the headphones are quite comfortable. I like the separate replaceable cotton covers and availability of repair parts. As mentioned before, not cheap. GL, Barry KD5VC --Original Message-- From: K9DUR To: 'Tim Ellison' To: 'Larry Otto' To: 'FlexRadio Reflector' Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic Sent: Apr 26, 2011 8:41 PM One comment about using aviation-type headsets with the Flex radios. All of them that I am aware of are mono earphones. You really do not get the full benefit of the receive signal unless you have stereo headphones. The ability to pan the main RX signal to one ear & the MUltiRX (or RX2) signal to the other ear is invaluable when working a pileup. I know that the original question was about what mic to use, but others brought up the subject of aviation headsets. As far as the mic is concerned, I am a member of the group that says use anything that works & adjust the response using the equalizer to get the sound you want. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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One comment about using aviation-type headsets with the Flex radios. All of them that I am aware of are mono earphones. You really do not get the full benefit of the receive signal unless you have stereo headphones. The ability to pan the main RX signal to one ear & the MUltiRX (or RX2) signal to the other ear is invaluable when working a pileup. I know that the original question was about what mic to use, but others brought up the subject of aviation headsets. As far as the mic is concerned, I am a member of the group that says use anything that works & adjust the response using the equalizer to get the sound you want. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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Like Brian, I use an aviation headset, in my case a David Clark H10-60, Sound isolation is exceptional, the headset is comfortable for long periods of time, and the mic has excellent noise cancellation. As Brian notes, a little fiddling is required for the interface but that was no big deal. I have a Heil 781, as well, but use it less often. We're talking comm here, not hi fidelity. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Bill On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Brian Lloyd wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Larry Otto wrote: > > > Hello All - > > > > I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on > my > > shopping list is > > a good quality microphone for my F5K. > > > > I am in the minority but I use an aviation headset. The mics on those are > good communications quality but definitely not HiFi. The big advantage is > that they have excellent noise canceling characteristics. The won't even > pick up the guy next to you talking right at you. Great for multi-op > contest > stations. > > The mics used in aviation headsets are either amplified dynamic or > amplified > electret. Electrically they look and act like carbon mics. You need a pad > if > you are going to connect to the Flex mic jack. You need a bias resistor > from > the +5V to the mic output (tip on the aviation mic plug), and then a > voltage > divider to the mic input on the Flex. Use about 20dB (10:1 10K in series > with a 1K would do) to knock the level down to where you would have a more > normal mic gain setting. > > -- > Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL > 3191 Western Dr. > Cameron Park, CA 95682 > br...@lloyd.com > +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) > +1.931.492.6776 (USA) > (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Larry Otto wrote: > Hello All - > > I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on my > shopping list is > a good quality microphone for my F5K. > I am in the minority but I use an aviation headset. The mics on those are good communications quality but definitely not HiFi. The big advantage is that they have excellent noise canceling characteristics. The won't even pick up the guy next to you talking right at you. Great for multi-op contest stations. The mics used in aviation headsets are either amplified dynamic or amplified electret. Electrically they look and act like carbon mics. You need a pad if you are going to connect to the Flex mic jack. You need a bias resistor from the +5V to the mic output (tip on the aviation mic plug), and then a voltage divider to the mic input on the Flex. Use about 20dB (10:1 10K in series with a 1K would do) to knock the level down to where you would have a more normal mic gain setting. -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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Larry, I have several studio quality dynamics from Shure and Peavey, but to be honest, the microphone that consistently gets unsolicited comments about its fidelity while running AM and SSB is a Radio Shack $2.99 electret element mounted in an old Peavey studio mic case and plugged right into the front panel mic input of the Flex. The only modification I made to the electret is that I run the output through an RC pre-emphasis network using a 5k resistor in parallel with a .05uf cap to tame the low end. Those components reside right inside the microphone. The whole mic project cost less than 10 bucks. As was previously mentioned, the audio processing power within PowerSDR can make just about anything sound natural. Rob W1AEX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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I have a nice Electrovoice RE10, RE16, and 664 I would consider selling. Also a number of D104's. I agree with other posts that Heil is a very popular and overpriced; you don't need to buy a "ham" microphone to get great audio and plug & play compatibility (or worst case, you or someone solders a new connector on a mic). There are some very good products, used & new, at great prices, if you shop the music, public address, and stage market. The Electrovoices I mention above are from this marketplace (the D104's not). The Flex has so much audio processing power, just about any mic can be made to sound good, it just takes a little reading & experimentation. GL es 73 Dan K0DAN - Original Message - From: "Larry Otto" To: "FlexRadio Reflector" Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: [Flexradio] Mic Hello All - I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on my shopping list is a good quality microphone for my F5K. Where better to get some ideas than here? From top to bottom, what do you guys use, what do you recommend? Tnx 73 W8LO Larry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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Hi, Larry, (and all), The days of spending lots of money for a microphone for technical reasons are over. You can get a GREAT microphone (studio quality) for around $120, such as the Audio Technica AT-2035, but why would you for communications where high and low frequencies are rolled off as a matter of design? You simply need a microphone with level dynamic range in the voice frequencies, which is almost everything. If you really must, get yourself something beautiful and shiny like the TenTec microphones or buy something OEMed for amateur use like Heil. These are the type microphones you'll find on the dealer's tables at Dayton. Amateur radio makes up a tiny segment of the audio microphone market. Does it make sense that the best microphones are targeted at the amateur radio market? Of course not! But you get more for your money buying audio gear and using adapters. This is simply an observation about the marketplace and economies of scale, not commentary on those fine people trying to earn a living by selling to this niche market or their products. I use a Yamaha CM500. < $50, and I won't worry the next time I crunch them in a desk drawer. I'll use my spare set. My melodious voice sounds terrific - I got mine after seeing an on-air FM Radio broadcast remote at a local business - they were using the CM500 and it sounded great. Most of the "big" on-air studios are using direct digital microphones - Ethernet to a network on the mic itself. I suppose that if you used VAC, you could do that, too! Mickey N4MB On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Larry Otto wrote: > Hello All - > > I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on my > shopping list is > a good quality microphone for my F5K. > > Where better to get some ideas than here? > > From top to bottom, what do you guys use, what do you recommend? > > Tnx > > 73 > W8LO > Larry > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > -- Mickey Baker Fort Lauderdale, FL “Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve me, and I will learn.” Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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Given the flexibility of the Flex (pun intended) nearly any mic can be made to sound good. For simplicity and easy availability any of the Yaesu mics will plug into the front panel and give you PTT. Some will just look cooler than others. 73 Ross K9COX On 4/26/2011 9:12 AM, Larry Otto wrote: Hello All - I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on my shopping list is a good quality microphone for my F5K. Where better to get some ideas than here? > From top to bottom, what do you guys use, what do you recommend? Tnx 73 W8LO Larry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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I have microphones that I share with my Yaesu FT-2000 on my F5K. The Yaesu MD-100 and the MD-200 - the MD-200 has the 2nd Heil element installed for DX work, and the standard element is nice and smooth for local rag chewing on 75 and 40m. Both microphones work out of the box and the audio reports, both DX and local are always great. The MD-200 with Heil element packs a punch, more than enough to be heard sooner rather than later - even with 100w. -- Richard A Clafton | the brITish guy | W5\G7EIX RIROC - Hosting - Development - Technology http://www.riroc.com | rclaf...@riroc.com PugHearts of Houston Pug Rescue | www.PugHearts.com -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 9:34 AM To: Larry Otto; FlexRadio Reflector Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic Honestly, any wide bandwidth (50-15K) flat response balanced dynamic mic connected to the balance line-in on the back of the F5K will work fine because of the 10-band EQ will shape the audio based on your voice characteristics that will sound fine. IMHO the Heil mics are of good quality, but overpriced. I have a PR40 and it sounds great. You can find a good mic at any music store (ZZsounds, Musician Friend, etc..) for a good price. Obviously this requires you to have a separate switch for PTT, but that is a simple fix. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Larry Otto Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:12 AM To: FlexRadio Reflector Subject: [Flexradio] Mic Hello All - I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on my shopping list is a good quality microphone for my F5K. Where better to get some ideas than here? >From top to bottom, what do you guys use, what do you recommend? Tnx 73 W8LO Larry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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from 'the bottom'i use a radio shack $3.00 dynamic mike with 0.1 uFd in series with the hot lead...roll off the lows like crazy with the 10 band equalizer...use 'stomp to talk' foot switch.for a guy who spends 90% of his time on cw, this is just right, ha ! 73, w5xz, dan --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Larry Otto wrote: From: Larry Otto Subject: [Flexradio] Mic To: "FlexRadio Reflector" Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 2:12 PM Hello All - I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on my shopping list is a good quality microphone for my F5K. Where better to get some ideas than here? >From top to bottom, what do you guys use, what do you recommend? Tnx 73 W8LO Larry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
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Honestly, any wide bandwidth (50-15K) flat response balanced dynamic mic connected to the balance line-in on the back of the F5K will work fine because of the 10-band EQ will shape the audio based on your voice characteristics that will sound fine. IMHO the Heil mics are of good quality, but overpriced. I have a PR40 and it sounds great. You can find a good mic at any music store (ZZsounds, Musician Friend, etc..) for a good price. Obviously this requires you to have a separate switch for PTT, but that is a simple fix. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Larry Otto Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:12 AM To: FlexRadio Reflector Subject: [Flexradio] Mic Hello All - I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on my shopping list is a good quality microphone for my F5K. Where better to get some ideas than here? >From top to bottom, what do you guys use, what do you recommend? Tnx 73 W8LO Larry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic
Hello All - I will be heading down to Dayton next month, and one of the top items on my shopping list is a good quality microphone for my F5K. Where better to get some ideas than here? >From top to bottom, what do you guys use, what do you recommend? Tnx 73 W8LO Larry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic gain with the F1500
On 4/12/2011 2:08 PM, Tim Ellison wrote: Lower the mic input gain using the MIXER so that you have some headroom with the front panel MIC gain control. Thanks, I'd forgotten about the mixer, it was set at about mid-range. I put it down to around 25%, and now I have to get mic gain up to about 15 to hit the 0dB ALC level. That seems more sensible. The idea then is to set the CPDR/DX settings to get the talk power. More tweaking to do, but it's coming along. 73 Alf NU8I ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic gain with the F1500
Lower the mic input gain using the MIXER so that you have some headroom with the front panel MIC gain control. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alfred Green Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 4:52 PM To: 'Flex Radio' Subject: [Flexradio] Mic gain with the F1500 I'm using the Yaesu MH-31. Even with the mic gain set at zero I still see the occasional ALC peak a little over 0dB. Monitoring on the F3K it sounds pretty thin. and a setting of 15 seems optimal with no added compression. I thought I had read that the gain should be set to give a bit less than 0dB on the ALC meter. As that is the case for pretty much any setting it doesn't seem to be a useful way of making the adjustment. I did check that the Mic Boost is unchecked. F1500, v2.0.22, Win7/64. 73 Alf NU8I Scottsdale AZ DM43an ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic gain with the F1500
I'm using the Yaesu MH-31. Even with the mic gain set at zero I still see the occasional ALC peak a little over 0dB. Monitoring on the F3K it sounds pretty thin. and a setting of 15 seems optimal with no added compression. I thought I had read that the gain should be set to give a bit less than 0dB on the ALC meter. As that is the case for pretty much any setting it doesn't seem to be a useful way of making the adjustment. I did check that the Mic Boost is unchecked. F1500, v2.0.22, Win7/64. 73 Alf NU8I Scottsdale AZ DM43an ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic switcher
On 3/27/11 4:19 PM, Dave Mayfield W9WRL wrote: > Wow, $400.00 bet the one I'm building works as well and cost a bunch less. No doubt. But for someone wanting something already done, it looks to be the only game in town. Also, it appears that NCS has discontinued that model. Seems they were losing money and apparently they want to focus on the commercial market where they can actually make money. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic switcher
I use the NCS to switch between the Flex and an S-Line and a Drake 4 Line - one mic, works fine, no problems. Nice piece of gear. Once I retire, maybe I'll have time to build something :) Stuck working away from home until then, no workbench. 73 Wayne K4ELO ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic switcher
Wow, $400.00 bet the one I'm building works as well and cost a bunch less. Brian Lloyd wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Ed White wrote: Hi Gang: What I am looking for is a microphone switch so I can switch one microphone between 5 rigs? If there is not anything I can build a switch and do the job myself, just thought I would ask? By switching the same mic. I can just set up each rig for the same mic and go for it? I think this is what you are looking for. http://www.ncsradio.com/m_switch.html ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic switcher
I'm in the start up phase of the same project. A quick look around the ham mags and catalogs yielded no such mic switch. So i am currently gathering the need parts to build my own, perhaps I will document the project and post it to me web site for all to see. Dave W9WRL.com Ed White wrote: Hi Gang: What I am looking for is a microphone switch so I can switch one microphone between 5 rigs? If there is not anything I can build a switch and do the job myself, just thought I would ask? By switching the same mic. I can just set up each rig for the same mic and go for it? Ed WA3BZT ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic switcher
Brian, Yep, that will do it. I had one when I 1st got my SDR-1000 & was still running the FT-847 in the house. 73, Ray, K9DUR http://k9dur.info -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:46 PM To: Ed White Cc: Boatanchors List; SDR-5000 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic switcher On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Ed White wrote: > Hi Gang: > What I am looking for is a microphone switch so I can switch one microphone > between 5 rigs? > If there is not anything I can build a switch and do the job myself, just > thought I would ask? > By switching the same mic. I can just set up each rig for the same mic and > go for it? > I think this is what you are looking for. http://www.ncsradio.com/m_switch.html -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic switcher
I use this device. One of the most useful pieces of equipment I own. Switches both received audio and 4 mic/audio input devices between 4 radios. Dave WN5V -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:46 PM To: Ed White Cc: Boatanchors List; SDR-5000 Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic switcher On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Ed White wrote: > Hi Gang: > What I am looking for is a microphone switch so I can switch one microphone > between 5 rigs? > If there is not anything I can build a switch and do the job myself, just > thought I would ask? > By switching the same mic. I can just set up each rig for the same mic and > go for it? > I think this is what you are looking for. http://www.ncsradio.com/m_switch.html -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic switcher
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Ed White wrote: > Hi Gang: > What I am looking for is a microphone switch so I can switch one microphone > between 5 rigs? > If there is not anything I can build a switch and do the job myself, just > thought I would ask? > By switching the same mic. I can just set up each rig for the same mic and > go for it? > I think this is what you are looking for. http://www.ncsradio.com/m_switch.html -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica) +1.931.492.6776 (USA) (+1.931.4.WB6RQN) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic switcher
Hi Gang: What I am looking for is a microphone switch so I can switch one microphone between 5 rigs? If there is not anything I can build a switch and do the job myself, just thought I would ask? By switching the same mic. I can just set up each rig for the same mic and go for it? Ed WA3BZT ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic gain settings
For some reason I can't figure out how to store certain mic gains settings for various transmit profiles. When I restart PSDR, it does not remember previous settings. I'm sure I did this before, but now I can't remember how. Thanks in advance. 73, Dan ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic input question F3K
Not at the same time; there is only one TX input channel be it the mic or VAC input. Steve's WA7DUH description is dead on. -Tim From: David McKenzie [mailto:k1...@vhfwiki.com] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:45 AM To: Tim Ellison Cc: Steven L Hess; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic input question F3K Does this mean you can use both microphone audio AND vac audio at the same time if you hard key from the flexwire or ptt connector on the rig? On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Ellison mailto:telli...@itsco.com>> wrote: Yes. Unless you select the Setup->Audio->VAC option to make the mic active *and* you use the PTT circuit (hard wired) to key the mic. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz>] On Behalf Of Steven L Hess Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:10 AM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> Subject: [Flexradio] Mic input question F3K When you select the DGU and DGL modes is the front microphone connected muted on the Flex-3000? I don't want to be broadcasting my crappy guitar from here in the shack. ;-) Steven -- Sent from my Linux box. Regards de KC6KGE. A very happy Flex-3000 user. Skype flamebait Gmail flamebait at gmail dot com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz<mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic input question F3K
Let's say you have VAC attached to Skype so a buddy can use it to talk in a roundtable or check into a net. You also want to participate (but when it is your turn.) The VAC is active so he can hear and transmit. When it is your turn, pick up the front panel mic and key the PTT. When the mic PTT goes to transmit, it OVER RIDES that VAC input audio and the mic is active. It works very slick. Steve WA7DUH On 11/28/2010 8:45 AM, David McKenzie wrote: Does this mean you can use both microphone audio AND vac audio at the same time if you hard key from the flexwire or ptt connector on the rig? On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Ellison wrote: Yes. Unless you select the Setup->Audio->VAC option to make the mic active *and* you use the PTT circuit (hard wired) to key the mic. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Steven L Hess Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:10 AM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Mic input question F3K When you select the DGU and DGL modes is the front microphone connected muted on the Flex-3000? I don't want to be broadcasting my crappy guitar from here in the shack. ;-) Steven -- Sent from my Linux box. Regards de KC6KGE. A very happy Flex-3000 user. Skype flamebait Gmail flamebait at gmail dot com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic input question F3K
Does this mean you can use both microphone audio AND vac audio at the same time if you hard key from the flexwire or ptt connector on the rig? On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Ellison wrote: > Yes. Unless you select the Setup->Audio->VAC option to make the mic active > *and* you use the PTT circuit (hard wired) to key the mic. > > > -Tim > > > -Original Message- > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto: > flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Steven L Hess > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:10 AM > To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > Subject: [Flexradio] Mic input question F3K > > When you select the DGU and DGL modes is the front microphone connected > muted on the Flex-3000? I don't want to be broadcasting my crappy guitar > from here in the shack. ;-) > > Steven > > -- > Sent from my Linux box. > Regards de KC6KGE. > A very happy Flex-3000 user. > Skype flamebait > Gmail flamebait at gmail dot com > > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flexradio.com/ > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic input question F3K
Yes. Unless you select the Setup->Audio->VAC option to make the mic active *and* you use the PTT circuit (hard wired) to key the mic. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Steven L Hess Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 11:10 AM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Mic input question F3K When you select the DGU and DGL modes is the front microphone connected muted on the Flex-3000? I don't want to be broadcasting my crappy guitar from here in the shack. ;-) Steven -- Sent from my Linux box. Regards de KC6KGE. A very happy Flex-3000 user. Skype flamebait Gmail flamebait at gmail dot com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic input question F3K
When you select the DGU and DGL modes is the front microphone connected muted on the Flex-3000? I don't want to be broadcasting my crappy guitar from here in the shack. ;-) Steven -- Sent from my Linux box. Regards de KC6KGE. A very happy Flex-3000 user. Skype flamebait Gmail flamebait at gmail dot com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic Voltage 5000a
Can someone help, I had a short in my mic, which I corrected, but no longer have any voltage available when I connect the mic to the 5000a, I assume there is a current limiting device, resistor or regulatory in the radio that I need to replace but I can't find it on the schematics. Anyone know which board I should look on first? Thanks Fred W1FC ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic settings
Firsty thanks to the guys who advised me about their microphones. At the moment I have all the radios in one corner of the shack along with the Sdr, I have the microphone about 8 feet away from all the equipment, I have a Maplins Preamp 20$ a Mic 1$ 30cents mic gain on 7 dx on 3 set to dx, I sit and just talk and the mic at 8ft away drives output to 96 watts. After advice I tried my HM-5, but it is not just the same, worked a lot on 20 today no problems kerry G7exo ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Mic not heard
Well, I seem to have shut my mic off. F3K, 1.18.0, 1.2.5.4 Mixer shows mic max volume, on Drive 96 MicGain 32 I must have something else set wrong. Any suggestions? At 14:03 7/7/2009, Tim Ellison wrote: Is the noise gate on? No, sorry, disabled. Good idea tho... Tried database reset, problem continues. Mystery solved. It was hardware, not software. And not Flex hardware either. Strangely, Yamaha had wired the stereo mic plug so that tip AND RING were hot, and shield was grounded. I plugged this into a mono jack, which effectively shorted out the mic. I had to swap headsets and rewire everything, then it started working. The database may have been keeping the alternate headset from working before. What a mess. Under control now, I think. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Mic not heard
At 10:41 7/8/2009, Dudley Hurry wrote: Do you have VAC on No and the Over ride VAC turned off? 73, Dudley WA5QPZ Dave Gomberg wrote: Well, I seem to have shut my mic off. F3K, 1.18.0, 1.2.5.4 Mixer shows mic max volume, on Drive 96 MicGain 32 I must have something else set wrong. Any suggestions? At 14:03 7/7/2009, Tim Ellison wrote: Is the noise gate on? No, sorry, disabled. Good idea tho... Tried database reset, problem continues. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Mic not heard
Do you have VAC on and the Over ride VAC turned off? 73, Dudley WA5QPZ Dave Gomberg wrote: Well, I seem to have shut my mic off. F3K, 1.18.0, 1.2.5.4 Mixer shows mic max volume, on Drive 96 MicGain 32 I must have something else set wrong. Any suggestions? At 14:03 7/7/2009, Tim Ellison wrote: Is the noise gate on? No, sorry, disabled. Good idea tho... Tried database reset, problem continues. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Mic not heard
Well, I seem to have shut my mic off. F3K, 1.18.0, 1.2.5.4 Mixer shows mic max volume, on Drive 96 MicGain 32 I must have something else set wrong. Any suggestions? At 14:03 7/7/2009, Tim Ellison wrote: Is the noise gate on? No, sorry, disabled. Good idea tho... Tried database reset, problem continues. -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Mic not heard
Is the noise gate on? -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave Gomberg Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 5:00 PM To: Flexradio reflector Subject: [Flexradio] Mic not heard Well, I seem to have shut my mic off. F3K, 1.18.0, 1.2.5.4 Mixer shows mic max volume, on Drive 96 MicGain 32 I must have something else set wrong. Any suggestions? -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to telli...@itsco.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Flexradio] Mic not heard
Well, I seem to have shut my mic off. F3K, 1.18.0, 1.2.5.4 Mixer shows mic max volume, on Drive 96 MicGain 32 I must have something else set wrong. Any suggestions? -- Dave Gomberg, San Francisco NE5EE gomberg1 at wcf dot com All addresses, phones, etc. at http://www.wcf.com/ham/info.html - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Flexradio] Mic plug for Flex 3000
The Service Manual for the FT897 Page 81 shows the same connections as the Flex KC so I think that the diagram on dxzone.com are wrong. 73's Bret WX7Y -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of w...@iquest.net Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:44 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic plug for Flex 3000 The pin-outs on http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50393.aspx do not correspond to Yaesu FT-857 pin-outs on http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=15709 YAESU-FT897-FT857-FT817-FT900-FT-450 ( 8 pin Modular Plug ) PIN1 FAST SCAN PIN2 GROUND PIN3 PTT PIN4 MIC PIN5 MIC GROUND PIN6 + 5VOLT PIN7 UP PIN8 DOWN FLEX-3000 Microphone Pinout Configuration Pin Number Function 1 Down (VFO tuning by defined frequency step) 2 Up (VFO tuning by defined frequency step) 3 Vcc (+5 VDC) 4 Microphone Ground (mic -) 5 Microphone In (mic +) 6 PTT (PTT +) 7 PTT Ground (PTT -) 8 Fast Up/Down It's the same connector but connected differently. 73 de Mike W9OJ --- > It is also documented in the KC too. > http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50393.aspx > > > > -Tim > > > Sig, > > That a Yaesu modular mic connector.. Same as the the FT-857 , etc. > A good source of mic connections.. > > http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=15709 > > > 73, > Dudley > > WA5QPZ > > > > sig...@starpower.net wrote: > > I have a Flex 3000 on order. While I am waiting for delivery, I would like > to get the correct modular mic plug. Since the Flex 5000 uses the Yaesu 8 > pin round plug wiring, does the Flex 3000 use the Yaesu modular plug wiring? > I haven't been able to find this information on the Flex website. I assume > other prospective Flex 3000 owners will want to know. > > > > Thanks and 73 > > > > Sig, NV7E + ZS6SIG ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic plug for Flex 3000
Thanks Rhett, I saw Scott's note, and I verified that the link still works.. I take it that Scott has graciously took over the QTH.net sites.. 73, Dudley WA5QPZ Rhett Isley wrote: Dudley, Just so you are aware, all QTH.net links are down during the transition of QTH.net from the prior owner to the new owner. The link below is a part of that transition. Happy New Year! 73, Rhett, KB4HG On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote: Sig, That a Yaesu modular mic connector.. Same as the the FT-857 , etc. A good source of mic connections.. http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=15709 73, Dudley WA5QPZ sig...@starpower.net wrote: I have a Flex 3000 on order. While I am waiting for delivery, I would like to get the correct modular mic plug. Since the Flex 5000 uses the Yaesu 8 pin round plug wiring, does the Flex 3000 use the Yaesu modular plug wiring? I haven't been able to find this information on the Flex website. I assume other prospective Flex 3000 owners will want to know. Thanks and 73 Sig, NV7E + ZS6SIG ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic plug for Flex 3000
The pin-outs on http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50393.aspx do not correspond to Yaesu FT-857 pin-outs on http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=15709 YAESU-FT897-FT857-FT817-FT900-FT-450 ( 8 pin Modular Plug ) PIN1 FAST SCAN PIN2 GROUND PIN3 PTT PIN4 MIC PIN5 MIC GROUND PIN6 + 5VOLT PIN7 UP PIN8 DOWN FLEX-3000 Microphone Pinout Configuration Pin Number Function 1 Down (VFO tuning by defined frequency step) 2 Up (VFO tuning by defined frequency step) 3 Vcc (+5 VDC) 4 Microphone Ground (mic -) 5 Microphone In (mic +) 6 PTT (PTT +) 7 PTT Ground (PTT -) 8 Fast Up/Down It's the same connector but connected differently. 73 de Mike W9OJ --- > It is also documented in the KC too. > http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50393.aspx > > > > -Tim > > > Sig, > > That a Yaesu modular mic connector.. Same as the the FT-857 , etc. > A good source of mic connections.. > > http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=15709 > > > 73, > Dudley > > WA5QPZ > > > > sig...@starpower.net wrote: > > I have a Flex 3000 on order. While I am waiting for delivery, I would like > to get the correct modular mic plug. Since the Flex 5000 uses the Yaesu 8 > pin round plug wiring, does the Flex 3000 use the Yaesu modular plug wiring? > I haven't been able to find this information on the Flex website. I assume > other prospective Flex 3000 owners will want to know. > > > > Thanks and 73 > > > > Sig, NV7E + ZS6SIG ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic plug for Flex 3000
It is also documented in the KC too. http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50393.aspx -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dudley Hurry Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:52 PM To: sig...@starpower.net Cc: Flex-Radio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic plug for Flex 3000 Sig, That a Yaesu modular mic connector.. Same as the the FT-857 , etc. A good source of mic connections.. http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=15709 73, Dudley WA5QPZ sig...@starpower.net wrote: > I have a Flex 3000 on order. While I am waiting for delivery, I would like > to get the correct modular mic plug. Since the Flex 5000 uses the Yaesu 8 > pin round plug wiring, does the Flex 3000 use the Yaesu modular plug wiring? > I haven't been able to find this information on the Flex website. I assume > other prospective Flex 3000 owners will want to know. > > Thanks and 73 > > Sig, NV7E + ZS6SIG > > ___ > FlexRadio Systems Mailing List > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ > Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: > http://www.flex-radio.com/ > > ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic plug for Flex 3000
Dudley, Just so you are aware, all QTH.net links are down during the transition of QTH.net from the prior owner to the new owner. The link below is a part of that transition. Happy New Year! 73, Rhett, KB4HG On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote: Sig, That a Yaesu modular mic connector.. Same as the the FT-857 , etc. A good source of mic connections.. http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=15709 73, Dudley WA5QPZ sig...@starpower.net wrote: I have a Flex 3000 on order. While I am waiting for delivery, I would like to get the correct modular mic plug. Since the Flex 5000 uses the Yaesu 8 pin round plug wiring, does the Flex 3000 use the Yaesu modular plug wiring? I haven't been able to find this information on the Flex website. I assume other prospective Flex 3000 owners will want to know. Thanks and 73 Sig, NV7E + ZS6SIG ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http:// www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic plug for Flex 3000
Sig, That a Yaesu modular mic connector.. Same as the the FT-857 , etc. A good source of mic connections.. http://www.dxzone.com/cgi-bin/dir/jump2.cgi?ID=15709 73, Dudley WA5QPZ sig...@starpower.net wrote: I have a Flex 3000 on order. While I am waiting for delivery, I would like to get the correct modular mic plug. Since the Flex 5000 uses the Yaesu 8 pin round plug wiring, does the Flex 3000 use the Yaesu modular plug wiring? I haven't been able to find this information on the Flex website. I assume other prospective Flex 3000 owners will want to know. Thanks and 73 Sig, NV7E + ZS6SIG ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic plug for Flex 3000
I have a Flex 3000 on order. While I am waiting for delivery, I would like to get the correct modular mic plug. Since the Flex 5000 uses the Yaesu 8 pin round plug wiring, does the Flex 3000 use the Yaesu modular plug wiring? I haven't been able to find this information on the Flex website. I assume other prospective Flex 3000 owners will want to know. Thanks and 73 Sig, NV7E + ZS6SIG ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic choice and Options/Accessories
Kevin, I read your post on the flexradio reflector regarding a mic choice. I have recently purchased a PR-781 mic from Heil - it replaced a Behringer B-1 microphone, and since then even though I have had it for only a short period of time, I keep getting unsolicited brilliant audio reports. Yesterday I had numerous contacts around Europe and also the USA on 20m, and in the evening I joined in a number of qso's around the UK. Everyone was complimentry - the UK stations are very quick to point out problem audio, so it was really nice when people kept saying how good the audio was. I wasn't using essb - just a bandwidth of 100 - 3100Hz. Prior to the purchase I was in contact with Bob Heil who steered me towards this microphone. I can only say it was a really good investment. I have it mounted directly on a Heil PL-2 boom, and the mic is connected via a standard xlr connector feeding into a Behringer 802 mixer. The mixer is needed to provide a pre-amp for the mic as well as make some minor EQ adjustments as I have a deep voice. When I transmit I also have tweaked the SDR equalizer as well by increasing the 2K slide by about 6db. If you want to have a look at the actual mic in my station you can follow the link below - there are lots of pictures - so the page takes a little while to load. You will see on the page, I have also posted the email reply received by Bob Heil - where he explains why the PR-781 is the best mic for your application. I hope this is of help. regards & 73 Mark M0MRR http://homepage.ntlworld.com/m.rabel/sdr.html ps - Kevin / flexradio, whilst I have been reading this reflector for a little while, I haven't figured out how to post a message or do a group reply. Any help pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071013/a23197a0/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic choice and Options/Accessories
Hey Kevin. First off there are several Knowledge Base articles that you may want to look at. http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10266 http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10078 http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10258 http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10259 http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10265 http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10427 See my other comments in-line below -Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Gunning Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:38 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Mic choice and Options/Accessories All: I am awaiting my 5000A which should ship next week. In preparation I am finalizing what options I'll order from flex with the 5000A. I am confused about the Mic selection and accessories I'll need for the mic. Firstly, I am not very active on HF although I own a Kenwood 2000X. I listen a lot and hope to be more active in digital modes and voice in the future. I am not very familiar with Microphone technology and don't anticipate using fancy speech processing equipment. [Tim] The first KB article has a good description of different microphone types. I do however like to buy the best (budget and wife allowing) so I am focusing on the Heli PR 781. Seems like this is a good mic that would produce excellent audio. [Tim] Heil makes a great set of microphones for professional and studio use. There are lots of others. The 781 is a very good dynamic microphone. I am using the Heil PR40 and like it very much, but it is a high end broadcast type dynamic microphone. I do recommend a dynamic mic. I have used several large diaphragm condenser mics and they are very good, but the are "hot" microphones and pick up a bit of background noise. Microphone Questions: 1) Assuming I order the Heli 781 from Flex, will I need the optional $35 cable? I see it's a balanced mic with a 3 pin XLR connection. I also see the 5000A has a ¼" balanced input on the rear panel. The cable description on the flex ordering page describes the cable as ¼" but for the front panel connection. Is this an error? [Tim] Good catch. Yes it is an error. The cable listed is for the rear balanced input connector. The information was actually correct, but there was a problem when the HTML was generated to display the page. I have it fixed now. Thanks! 2) I also have a question about the mount. It states an SM3 mount. I assume I would need to purchase a stand that fits an SM3 from Heli or one of the other HAM stores. Any advice and confirmation on what I might need would be welcomed. [Tim] The mic mount is a 5/8" - 27 threaded clip and fits most standard microphone stands. I have a boom setup and it works well. You can easily move it out of your way when you need to. Desk stands work well too, but you have to be careful not to hit the table or it will cause unwanted noise. 3) How is the PTT done with this mic? I assume it would be a GUI button within the application but what if I want traditional PPT on the mic? I see a PTT jack on the rear panel so I assume I would need an additional foot switch or stand that has a switch. [Tim] This mic has no PTT button. You can use the software PTT, but I recommend a foot or hand switch connected to the RCA PTT connector on the back. www.HeilSound.com sells both. Do I need a 'supported' firewire card or can I simply buy a known brand name at the store? I might have to use a notebook to control the 5000A so I may need a PCMCIA/Cardbus unit. Anything I should avoid? [Tim] You will get other opinions on this one. I do not recommend Firewire cards using the VIA chip set. You can review this Knowledge Base article for more information. http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10250 I personally use only Firewire cards with the TI chip set. The performance is good and it has great compatibility. They are a bit more expensive, but I have never had a problem with any of the ones I have used. Should I get a powerMate or Shuttle Pro. I know that this is a probable a personal preference. I am very familiar with using screen/mouse/keyboard but equally, I like my tuning knob. Any comments or suggestions welcome. [Tim] I have a PowerMate and used it for about 2 days. You get so proficient using a mouse to tune (use a mouse with a scroll wheel) that the PowerMate, IMHO is a bit clumsy to use. I still have it plugged in because it has this cool groovy blue LED on the bottom which makes a good mood lamp :-) Other people can not do without them. I thought I needed a knob (a neophyte, I was), but now knobs are passé. Last question - How demanding is the Flex 5000A on the PC's sound card. [Tim] The FLEX-500 does not use a sound card. The ADC/DACs are integrated in the FLEX-5000 Again I may have to use a recent vintage HP Core2Duo Model
[Flexradio] Mic choice and Options/Accessories
All: I am awaiting my 5000A which should ship next week. In preparation I am finalizing what options Ill order from flex with the 5000A. I am confused about the Mic selection and accessories Ill need for the mic. Firstly, I am not very active on HF although I own a Kenwood 2000X. I listen a lot and hope to be more active in digital modes and voice in the future. I am not very familiar with Microphone technology and dont anticipate using fancy speech processing equipment. I do however like to buy the best (budget and wife allowing) so I am focusing on the Heli PR 781. Seems like this is a good mic that would produce excellent audio. Microphone Questions: 1) Assuming I order the Heli 781 from Flex, will I need the optional $35 cable? I see its a balanced mic with a 3 pin XLR connection. I also see the 5000A has a ¼ balanced input on the rear panel. The cable description on the flex ordering page describes the cable as ¼ but for the front panel connection. Is this an error? 2) I also have a question about the mount. It states an SM3 mount. I assume I would need to purchase a stand that fits an SM3 from Heli or one of the other HAM stores. Any advice and confirmation on what I might need would be welcomed. 3) How is the PTT done with this mic? I assume it would be a GUI button within the application but what if I want traditional PPT on the mic? I see a PTT jack on the rear panel so I assume I would need an additional foot switch or stand that has a switch. Do I need a supported firewire card or can I simply buy a known brand name at the store? I might have to use a notebook to control the 5000A so I may need a PCMCIA/Cardbus unit. Anything I should avoid? Should I get a powerMate or Shuttle Pro. I know that this is a probable a personal preference. I am very familiar with using screen/mouse/keyboard but equally, I like my tuning knob. Any comments or suggestions welcome. Last question How demanding is the Flex 5000A on the PCs sound card. Again I may have to use a recent vintage HP Core2Duo Model 6400 but I am sure the included sound subsystem is limited as its really a business machine. Thoughts, recommendations? I would like to get the second receiver for the 5000A but I know its not available yet. Does anyone have an idea of the cost? Thanks to all and I look forward to giving back to the Flex community as my knowledge grows. Kevin -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20071012/5d46a500/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] mic v
That is measured in VACrms. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jim McLester > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Flexradio] mic v > > I was referring to the measurement of the voltage output from the sound > card to verify (adjust to) the proper value. > > Jim McLester ___ FlexRadio mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] mic v
I was referring to the measurement of the voltage output from the sound card to verify (adjust to) the proper value. Jim McLester ___ FlexRadio mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] mic v
I'm not sure I understand. If you're talking about the Mic setting in the TX Meter, it is taken from the input to the DSP. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jim McLester > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:43 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Flexradio] mic v > > Is the "measured mic voltage", described meter (average) or scope (p-p) ? > > Jim McLester ai4vx ___ FlexRadio mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] mic v
Is the "measured mic voltage", described meter (average) or scope (p-p) ? Jim McLester ai4vx ___ FlexRadio mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] mic v
Is the measured mic voltage, described meter (average) or scope (p-p) ? Jim McLester ai4vx ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic input to FA-66 question
Bill, The two inputs for the FA-66 can be operated as balanced or unbalanced depending on the connector used. I assume you have a high impedance mic, so you may want to create an unbalanced to balanced connector to connect to the FA-66 A wide variety of balanced to unbalanced wiring diagrams can be found in the FlexRadio Knowledge Base http://kb.flex-radio.com/article.aspx?id=10221 For question #2, you have two mic gain controls to work with; one on the FA-66 (the SENS control) and the gain in PowerSDR. You have to use a combination of each to get the input to read 0 dB with PowerSDR. The reason "peaks" are in italics is that with voice operation and two gain controls, one gain control may be more sensitive to peak sounds, which would cause you to over drive the input. What I usually do with the FA-66 is set the Peak/Limiter control to ON and while talking I increase the SENS (AF gain) until I see that I am engaging the limiter. Then I back it off a bit. In PowerSDR, I adjust the MIC gain so that I just barely hit the 0 dB peak. For may setup, this is a gain value of about 12. I believe this helps the S/N since I am not amplifying as much signal (and noise) with the second gain control. -Tim - FRS KB Administrator -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W5WVO Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:12 AM To: [FlexRadio] Subject: [Flexradio] Mic input to FA-66 question Looking down the road a bit, to when I actually have to do this... :-) I have a couple questions about the FA-66 setup. 1) Can I connect a Heil mic that uses a simple single-ended unbalanced output (like the ProSet) directly to the FA-66 input port? And if so, do I connect the single-ended output to a TRS plug with the tip and ring tied together, or to just the tip? 2) In Step 5 (Calibrate Mic Input), it says, "It will probably be necessary to adjust the MIC control on the PowerSDR front panel in combination with the SENS control on the FA-66 front panel to attain 0dB peaks." This statement seems a bit cryptic. How do the two adjustments interact? Why is "peaks" in italics? Bill / W5WVO ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic input to FA-66 question
Looking down the road a bit, to when I actually have to do this... :-) I have a couple questions about the FA-66 setup. 1) Can I connect a Heil mic that uses a simple single-ended unbalanced output (like the ProSet) directly to the FA-66 input port? And if so, do I connect the single-ended output to a TRS plug with the tip and ring tied together, or to just the tip? 2) In Step 5 (Calibrate Mic Input), it says, "It will probably be necessary to adjust the MIC control on the PowerSDR front panel in combination with the SENS control on the FA-66 front panel to attain 0dB peaks." This statement seems a bit cryptic. How do the two adjustments interact? Why is "peaks" in italics? Bill / W5WVO ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ FlexRadio Knowledge Base: http://kb.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Connection
call me 512 608-6727. I broke my wrist so can type much John P. Basilotto W5GI Marketing and Product Manager FlexRadio Systems Office/Fax 512-250-8595 Cell 512-663-6727 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Gray Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 4:55 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Mic Connection Looking for more input on mic connections for the SDR 1000. I am new to this rig. Should I connect to the Radio 8 pin connector or go direct to the OUTBOX on the sound card? If I go to the OutBox do I just use a two pin or a stereo pin to plug it into the Outbox. Apologize for the dumb questons but not sure where to find the information. Hooked up a Heil headset with a 2 pin connector and the audio was a bit chopped off. Any help appreciated. Live in Oh if anyone can work me on the air for a hand. Kevin -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20061112/d5a9a2e7/attachment .html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com
[Flexradio] Mic Connection
Looking for more input on mic connections for the SDR 1000. I am new to this rig. Should I connect to the Radio 8 pin connector or go direct to the OUTBOX on the sound card? If I go to the OutBox do I just use a two pin or a stereo pin to plug it into the Outbox. Apologize for the dumb questons but not sure where to find the information. Hooked up a Heil headset with a 2 pin connector and the audio was a bit chopped off. Any help appreciated. Live in Oh if anyone can work me on the air for a hand. Kevin -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/attachments/20061112/d5a9a2e7/attachment.html ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Pre?
Hi Brian, In addition to the D44 sound card, I use the motherboard sound interface and a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card installed in my computer. I use the mic input of the Santa Cruz as a preamplifier and use the output of the Santa Cruz to drive the mic input of the D44 card. I set my Santa Cruz as the default sound device and set the windows sound scheme to "no sounds". With the above setup, you can also use the Santa Cruz as a voice keyer. I use the sound circuits on the motherboard as a system mixer. The D-44 speaker output drives the aux input on the motherboard. The motherboard sound out connector drives my headphones or speakers. The above explains phone operation, but I also use the Santa Cruz for digital modes with the addition of a Y-cable from the D-44 speaker output to drive both the motherboard aux input and the Santa Cruz aux input. To reduce cable lengths, I also use a D44 interface board. This was available at one time at http://www.hamsdr.com/. (Don't know the current status of availability. Perhaps someone else can shed some light on that.) This adapter board has 1/8" female connectors and plugs directly into the D-44 sound card's D connector eliminating the need for the large D-44 1/4" connectors patch box. The above works fine for me. 73, Bill NJ1H -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Sherrod Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 3:17 PM To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Mic Pre? I know I read somewhere that someone did some rather extensive testing on the audio input for the SDR-1000, and found that a low noise mic pre ahead of the box was better than cranking up the gain on the console. This makes sense to me as I've found the same in the past using analog type devices. I used to use a Symetrix 528 voice processor, however it appears to be dead now. The article I read (somewhere) mentioned a Behringer Eurorack UB802 Mixer. The price was right, so I ordered one the other day. My question is this; should I use the input on the SDR-1000 box or the D-44 from the UB802 mixer? I plan to use a balanced line, low-z mic. As mentioned in my earlier post, I don't have my sdr-1000 yet, but I'm just trying (hoping) to get some things established ahead of time. TIA & 73 Brian w5ami ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link: http://mail.flex-radio.biz/pipermail/flexradio_flex-radio.biz/ FlexRadio Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Pre?
I'll get the ball rolling and others feel free to jump in. First a little background information to make all of this make sense. The D44 has two (IMHO) minor deficiencies that have to be addressed when hooking up a mic. The first is the lack of a mic preamp on the D44 board so you have to get gain from somewhere. The second is that even though you can wire up a balanced mic input, it is converted to unbalanced inside the D44. Assumptions: There is not any other audio processing equipment in the input audio chain. Item #1 first. You have three options; use an external mic preamp, use a mic that has high gain output (http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1995_articles/jun95/microphones.html) or crank up the gain in PowerSDR. Any option will work, but my preference is to use and external preamp, especially with dynamic or condenser mics that have relatively low output. You can get mic preamps ant any store that sells recording hardware. Some preamps even have tubes to provide that mellow odd harmonic flavor to your voice. Look for one that has both balanced and unbalanced inputs and line and mic level outputs for flexibility. Also get one that has a variable gain control, selection for multiple mic impedances and a clip or peak input indicator. Obviously a very low noise amp circuit is a necessity. Now for Item #2. For the D44 I'd suggest an unbalanced line out signal that is input directly into the D44 (either the breakout box or Eric2's breakout box eliminator). If the mic has a balanced output, input it into the mic preamp the same way. If the mic is unbalanced, then input into the mic pre amp unbalanced. Now, you may have a ground loop problem (hum) so an isolation transformer in between the preamp output and the D44 input may be necessary. These too can be found at music stores that sell a lot of recording or PA gear. I know some people who use isolation transformers in between every piece of audio gear in the audio chain just to make sure that have ground isolation. For setup, Connect the mic to the preamp and while talking in a normal voice that you would for trying to get the last Peter I QSO in the last 15 minutes of their Dxpedition, turn up the gain until the clip light begins to blink. Then back it odd just a little bit. Connect the preamp to the D44 and set the proper input level on the D44 control panel for they type of output (line level/mic level) used from the preamp. Connect you rig to a dummy load and while transmitting, adjust the PowerSDR gain to peak at 0 when the TX meter is set for mic. Then using a separate transceiver, (or the MON feature on the PowerSDR console) listen to you output and adjust the EQ until you are happy. Select the EQ for the TX meter and make sure that the EQ is not over driving the input gain level. That is it. The difficult part is determining how you plan to wiring from the mic to the preamp and wiring from the preamp to the D44. BTW, the Firebox does not have the same limitations noted above as does the D44, but it is more expensive (2X) and takes up more CPU cycles to operate than the D44. It also has a frequency response roll off while operating at 96KHz that is in the process of being resolved by Presonus. My recommendation is that if you really want superb audio, splurge for the Firebox. -Tim --- Tim Ellison ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Integrated Technical Services ( http://www.itsco.com ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Loen Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 3:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic Pre? Brian Sherrod wrote: >I know I read somewhere that someone did some rather extensive testing on the >audio input for the SDR-1000, and found that a low noise mic pre ahead of the >box was better than cranking up the gain on the console. This makes sense to >me as I've found the same in the past using analog type devices. I used to >use a Symetrix 528 voice processor, however it appears to be dead now. > >The article I read (somewhere) mentioned a Behringer Eurorack UB802 Mixer. >The price was right, so I ordered one the other day. > >My question is this; should I use the input on the SDR-1000 box or the D-44 >from the UB802 mixer? I plan to use a balanced line, low-z mic. > >As mentioned in my earlier post, I don't have my sdr-1000 yet, but I'm just >trying (hoping) to get some things established ahead of time. > >TIA & 73 > >Brian >w5ami > > I have the Behringer mixer as well and have been so deep into digital that I haven't bothered to deploy it. Is there a simple "paint by the numbers "guide for D44 and non D44 use? I know that AA4SW and others have deployed this and we used it in Belize with great success. What I really would like to see is a simple "how to" on how to: 1. Plug i
Re: [Flexradio] Mic Pre?
Brian Sherrod wrote: I know I read somewhere that someone did some rather extensive testing on the audio input for the SDR-1000, and found that a low noise mic pre ahead of the box was better than cranking up the gain on the console. This makes sense to me as I've found the same in the past using analog type devices. I used to use a Symetrix 528 voice processor, however it appears to be dead now. The article I read (somewhere) mentioned a Behringer Eurorack UB802 Mixer. The price was right, so I ordered one the other day. My question is this; should I use the input on the SDR-1000 box or the D-44 from the UB802 mixer? I plan to use a balanced line, low-z mic. As mentioned in my earlier post, I don't have my sdr-1000 yet, but I'm just trying (hoping) to get some things established ahead of time. TIA & 73 Brian w5ami I have the Behringer mixer as well and have been so deep into digital that I haven't bothered to deploy it. Is there a simple "paint by the numbers "guide for D44 and non D44 use? I know that AA4SW and others have deployed this and we used it in Belize with great success. What I really would like to see is a simple "how to" on how to: 1. Plug in some old monural microphone and get the right output (presumably stereo or pseudo stereo) into a proper output plug. 2. Hook up an inexpensive PC microphone and get the same. I don't care how crushingly simple this is, we have very nice guidelines/guidebooks for the basic D44 hookup, why not this? For a lot of us, this is the "other shoe", kind of like that material we've "sort of" accumulated on hooking up HF amplifiers. What is also someday needed is for a "good enough" version of this for DXpeditioning and other portable/mobile uses. I'm thinking of some "altoid box" thing where you input the regular PC microphone jack on one side (optionally ?? else ganged together with it?) and output a simple amplified, SDR ready signal on the other. This item should be nearly off the shelf somewhere as either a product or a well-established kit. Anyone with ideas on that? Larry WO0Z
[Flexradio] Mic Pre?
I know I read somewhere that someone did some rather extensive testing on the audio input for the SDR-1000, and found that a low noise mic pre ahead of the box was better than cranking up the gain on the console. This makes sense to me as I've found the same in the past using analog type devices. I used to use a Symetrix 528 voice processor, however it appears to be dead now. The article I read (somewhere) mentioned a Behringer Eurorack UB802 Mixer. The price was right, so I ordered one the other day. My question is this; should I use the input on the SDR-1000 box or the D-44 from the UB802 mixer? I plan to use a balanced line, low-z mic. As mentioned in my earlier post, I don't have my sdr-1000 yet, but I'm just trying (hoping) to get some things established ahead of time. TIA & 73 Brian w5ami
Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card
You would probably want to use the MoBo sound card for Teamspeak. Gerald > -Original Message- > From: George Heron N2APB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:18 PM > To: Gerald Youngblood; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '' FlexRadio '' > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > > Yup, I understood what Eric was saying for use with PowerSDR, > and that's good that we can amplify enough in software for > the SDR-1000. > > Not to belabor a mundane issue, but my question related to > using the mic for non-SDR applications ... like when using > Teamspeak. Do you guys use the motherboard mic input for that > purpose or do you have an outboard preamp? > > ~George > > > - Original Message - > From: "Gerald Youngblood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'George Heron N2APB'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'' FlexRadio ''" > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:52 PM > Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > > > > George, > > > > Professional audio sound cards rarely have a microphone > preamplifier > > because they are designed to talk to mixing panels that do > that. What > > Eric is saying though is that you do NOT need a > preamplifier because > > we can amplify in the software. Just turn up the front panel Mic > > control until you get sufficient output. This simply turns up the > > digital gain (i.e. > > multiplication). > > > > 73, > > Gerald > > K5SDR > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > George Heron > >> N2APB > >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:12 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '' FlexRadio '' > >> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > >> > >> Thanks Eric. Sheesh, for a top-quality sound card, I'm > surprised it > >> doesn't have the same capabilities as lesser-quality ones in this > >> regard. So, for other applications of a PC sound system like > >> recording voice, etc, this forces the need for yet another > gizmo and > >> set of patch cables. (An $80 gizmo, no less, for the > AudioBuddy they > >> show in their manual.) > >> > >> BTW, what do you guys do for TeamSpeak voice recording? > >> Without a preamp on the D44, you must have some other > amplification > >> in the system? > >> > >> Perhaps answering my own question, is there a way to utilize the > >> motherboard mic input with the D44 plugged in? (How is this > >> selected?) > >> > >> 73, George N2APB > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'' FlexRadio ''" > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:05 PM > >> Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > >> > >> > >> > George, > >> > > >> > The Delta 44 is expecting a line level input. We get > around this > >> > by providing digital amplification within our program, but > >> this will not > >> > work for other applications which do not provide such gain. > >> The input > >> > level you saw on the Delta 44 control panel is normal. > >> > > >> > Consumer sound cards typically include a Mic preamp (and > >> sometimes an > >> > additional 20dB boost). You can buy an external one for > >> the Delta 44 > >> > and it _will_ improve the signal/noise ratio when > >> transmitting on the > >> > PowerSDR software. It is not necessary, however, thanks to > >> the power of > >> > digital amplification (aka multiplication). > >> > > >> > > >> > Eric Wachsmann > >> > FlexRadio Systems > >> > > >> >> -Original Message- > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> radio.biz] On Behalf Of George Heron N2APB > >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:46 AM > >> >> To: '' FlexRadio '' > >> >> Subject: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > >> >> > >> >> I recently upgraded to the Delta-44 sound card and th
Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card
George, Gerald's reply was right on for the D44. It was designed for use in recording situations where you would typically use your own preamp (for performance reasons). For TeamSpeak / other microphone applications, I typically use my motherboard soundcard. In order to do this, you can either change the default playback/record device under the Windows Control Panel -> Sounds and Audio Devices form, or you can change the settings within the application to use a specific sound card device (instead of the "Windows Default"). If you want to get really fancy, you can actually use separate soundcards for the microphone (record) and speakers (playback) on most applications. I do this occasionally if I am running other audio applications on the Delta 44 while listening to TeamSpeak and need to be able to hear them both. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems > -Original Message- > From: George Heron N2APB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '' FlexRadio '' > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > > Thanks Eric. Sheesh, for a top-quality sound card, I'm surprised it > doesn't > have the same capabilities as lesser-quality ones in this regard. So, for > other applications of a PC sound system like recording voice, etc, this > forces the need for yet another gizmo and set of patch cables. (An $80 > gizmo, no less, for the AudioBuddy they show in their manual.) > > BTW, what do you guys do for TeamSpeak voice recording? Without a preamp > on > the D44, you must have some other amplification in the system? > > Perhaps answering my own question, is there a way to utilize the > motherboard > mic input with the D44 plugged in? (How is this selected?) > > 73, George N2APB > > > - Original Message - > From: "Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'' FlexRadio ''" > > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:05 PM > Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > > > > George, > > > > The Delta 44 is expecting a line level input. We get around this by > > providing digital amplification within our program, but this will not > > work for other applications which do not provide such gain. The input > > level you saw on the Delta 44 control panel is normal. > > > > Consumer sound cards typically include a Mic preamp (and sometimes an > > additional 20dB boost). You can buy an external one for the Delta 44 > > and it _will_ improve the signal/noise ratio when transmitting on the > > PowerSDR software. It is not necessary, however, thanks to the power of > > digital amplification (aka multiplication). > > > > > > Eric Wachsmann > > FlexRadio Systems > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> radio.biz] On Behalf Of George Heron N2APB > >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:46 AM > >> To: '' FlexRadio '' > >> Subject: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > >> > >> I recently upgraded to the Delta-44 sound card and things are almost > >> working as expected. > >> > >> Things are fine with SDR receive functions and for normal multimedia > >> playback on the computer > >> (like playing MP3 audio files). But then in testing out the mic input > >> function in prep for > >> SDR transmit tests, I notice that I just cannot get any audio gain > > like I > >> used to with the > >> Santa Cruz card previously used. I can hardly even get 1/4 scale > > readings > >> in the sound card > >> control panel when speaking loudly into the mic. > >> > >> The mic is proper impedance for "mutlimedia sound cards", and indeed > >> worked fine with the > >> Santa Cruz card before. The gain setting is indeed "-10dB" in the > > control > >> panel. (I've > >> tried all setting combinations.) > >> > >> Someone had privately suggested that perhaps the D44 doesn't provide a > >> bias voltage for the > >> mic input, as some/most cards do ... > >> > >> Has anyone else experienced this condition with the D44? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> 73, George N2APB > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> FlexRadio mailing list > >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > > > > > > >
Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card
Yup, I understood what Eric was saying for use with PowerSDR, and that's good that we can amplify enough in software for the SDR-1000. Not to belabor a mundane issue, but my question related to using the mic for non-SDR applications ... like when using Teamspeak. Do you guys use the motherboard mic input for that purpose or do you have an outboard preamp? ~George - Original Message - From: "Gerald Youngblood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'George Heron N2APB'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'' FlexRadio ''" Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:52 PM Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card George, Professional audio sound cards rarely have a microphone preamplifier because they are designed to talk to mixing panels that do that. What Eric is saying though is that you do NOT need a preamplifier because we can amplify in the software. Just turn up the front panel Mic control until you get sufficient output. This simply turns up the digital gain (i.e. multiplication). 73, Gerald K5SDR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Heron N2APB Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '' FlexRadio '' Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card Thanks Eric. Sheesh, for a top-quality sound card, I'm surprised it doesn't have the same capabilities as lesser-quality ones in this regard. So, for other applications of a PC sound system like recording voice, etc, this forces the need for yet another gizmo and set of patch cables. (An $80 gizmo, no less, for the AudioBuddy they show in their manual.) BTW, what do you guys do for TeamSpeak voice recording? Without a preamp on the D44, you must have some other amplification in the system? Perhaps answering my own question, is there a way to utilize the motherboard mic input with the D44 plugged in? (How is this selected?) 73, George N2APB - Original Message - From: "Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'' FlexRadio ''" Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > George, > > The Delta 44 is expecting a line level input. We get around this by > providing digital amplification within our program, but this will not > work for other applications which do not provide such gain. The input > level you saw on the Delta 44 control panel is normal. > > Consumer sound cards typically include a Mic preamp (and sometimes an > additional 20dB boost). You can buy an external one for the Delta 44 > and it _will_ improve the signal/noise ratio when transmitting on the > PowerSDR software. It is not necessary, however, thanks to the power of > digital amplification (aka multiplication). > > > Eric Wachsmann > FlexRadio Systems > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> radio.biz] On Behalf Of George Heron N2APB >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:46 AM >> To: '' FlexRadio '' >> Subject: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card >> >> I recently upgraded to the Delta-44 sound card and things are almost >> working as expected. >> >> Things are fine with SDR receive functions and for normal multimedia >> playback on the computer >> (like playing MP3 audio files). But then in testing out the mic input >> function in prep for >> SDR transmit tests, I notice that I just cannot get any audio gain > like I >> used to with the >> Santa Cruz card previously used. I can hardly even get 1/4 scale > readings >> in the sound card >> control panel when speaking loudly into the mic. >> >> The mic is proper impedance for "mutlimedia sound cards", and indeed >> worked fine with the >> Santa Cruz card before. The gain setting is indeed "-10dB" in the > control >> panel. (I've >> tried all setting combinations.) >> >> Someone had privately suggested that perhaps the D44 doesn't provide a >> bias voltage for the >> mic input, as some/most cards do ... >> >> Has anyone else experienced this condition with the D44? >> >> Thanks. >> >> 73, George N2APB >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> FlexRadio mailing list >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz >> http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > > ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card
George, Professional audio sound cards rarely have a microphone preamplifier because they are designed to talk to mixing panels that do that. What Eric is saying though is that you do NOT need a preamplifier because we can amplify in the software. Just turn up the front panel Mic control until you get sufficient output. This simply turns up the digital gain (i.e. multiplication). 73, Gerald K5SDR > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George > Heron N2APB > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; '' FlexRadio '' > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > > Thanks Eric. Sheesh, for a top-quality sound card, I'm > surprised it doesn't have the same capabilities as > lesser-quality ones in this regard. So, for other > applications of a PC sound system like recording voice, etc, > this forces the need for yet another gizmo and set of patch > cables. (An $80 gizmo, no less, for the AudioBuddy they show > in their manual.) > > BTW, what do you guys do for TeamSpeak voice recording? > Without a preamp on the D44, you must have some other > amplification in the system? > > Perhaps answering my own question, is there a way to utilize > the motherboard mic input with the D44 plugged in? (How is > this selected?) > > 73, George N2APB > > > - Original Message - > From: "Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'' FlexRadio ''" > > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:05 PM > Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > > > > George, > > > > The Delta 44 is expecting a line level input. We get around this by > > providing digital amplification within our program, but > this will not > > work for other applications which do not provide such gain. > The input > > level you saw on the Delta 44 control panel is normal. > > > > Consumer sound cards typically include a Mic preamp (and > sometimes an > > additional 20dB boost). You can buy an external one for > the Delta 44 > > and it _will_ improve the signal/noise ratio when > transmitting on the > > PowerSDR software. It is not necessary, however, thanks to > the power of > > digital amplification (aka multiplication). > > > > > > Eric Wachsmann > > FlexRadio Systems > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> radio.biz] On Behalf Of George Heron N2APB > >> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:46 AM > >> To: '' FlexRadio '' > >> Subject: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card > >> > >> I recently upgraded to the Delta-44 sound card and things > are almost > >> working as expected. > >> > >> Things are fine with SDR receive functions and for normal > multimedia > >> playback on the computer > >> (like playing MP3 audio files). But then in testing out > the mic input > >> function in prep for > >> SDR transmit tests, I notice that I just cannot get any audio gain > > like I > >> used to with the > >> Santa Cruz card previously used. I can hardly even get 1/4 scale > > readings > >> in the sound card > >> control panel when speaking loudly into the mic. > >> > >> The mic is proper impedance for "mutlimedia sound cards", > and indeed > >> worked fine with the > >> Santa Cruz card before. The gain setting is indeed "-10dB" in the > > control > >> panel. (I've > >> tried all setting combinations.) > >> > >> Someone had privately suggested that perhaps the D44 > doesn't provide a > >> bias voltage for the > >> mic input, as some/most cards do ... > >> > >> Has anyone else experienced this condition with the D44? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> 73, George N2APB > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> FlexRadio mailing list > >> FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > >> > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > > > > > > > > > > ___ > FlexRadio mailing list > FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz > http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz > >
Re: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card
Thanks Eric. Sheesh, for a top-quality sound card, I'm surprised it doesn't have the same capabilities as lesser-quality ones in this regard. So, for other applications of a PC sound system like recording voice, etc, this forces the need for yet another gizmo and set of patch cables. (An $80 gizmo, no less, for the AudioBuddy they show in their manual.) BTW, what do you guys do for TeamSpeak voice recording? Without a preamp on the D44, you must have some other amplification in the system? Perhaps answering my own question, is there a way to utilize the motherboard mic input with the D44 plugged in? (How is this selected?) 73, George N2APB - Original Message - From: "Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'' FlexRadio ''" Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card George, The Delta 44 is expecting a line level input. We get around this by providing digital amplification within our program, but this will not work for other applications which do not provide such gain. The input level you saw on the Delta 44 control panel is normal. Consumer sound cards typically include a Mic preamp (and sometimes an additional 20dB boost). You can buy an external one for the Delta 44 and it _will_ improve the signal/noise ratio when transmitting on the PowerSDR software. It is not necessary, however, thanks to the power of digital amplification (aka multiplication). Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of George Heron N2APB Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:46 AM To: '' FlexRadio '' Subject: [Flexradio] Mic problem with D44 card I recently upgraded to the Delta-44 sound card and things are almost working as expected. Things are fine with SDR receive functions and for normal multimedia playback on the computer (like playing MP3 audio files). But then in testing out the mic input function in prep for SDR transmit tests, I notice that I just cannot get any audio gain like I used to with the Santa Cruz card previously used. I can hardly even get 1/4 scale readings in the sound card control panel when speaking loudly into the mic. The mic is proper impedance for "mutlimedia sound cards", and indeed worked fine with the Santa Cruz card before. The gain setting is indeed "-10dB" in the control panel. (I've tried all setting combinations.) Someone had privately suggested that perhaps the D44 doesn't provide a bias voltage for the mic input, as some/most cards do ... Has anyone else experienced this condition with the D44? Thanks. 73, George N2APB ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
