Re: Low Battery Warning on iBook

2004-05-27 Thread Susan Platter
The battery runs for three or four hours before disappearing. It has 
been suggested to me that the age of the battery (three years plus a 
bit) may be a factor in the Low Battery message no longer appearing. It 
used to appear, it seems, and it is not clear why this ceased.

Susan Platter
Swindon, Wiltshire
England
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Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 17:31:53 -0400
Subject: Re: Low Battery Warning on iBook
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 25/05/04 17:31, Susan Platter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While using my Wallstreet, I always get a low battery warning, if I
fail to notice that it is in need of charging. However, with the iBook
I am using now, I get no such warning. It is also running Jaguar, like
the Wallstreet, so is this a hardware related feature, or is there
anything I can do to make such a warning appear? I have become so
accustomed to the Wallstreet's warning, that on more than one occasion
I have allowed the iBook to run out completely, which I understand is
not a good idea with a Lithium Ion battery.
Any suggestions, please?
I've never owned an iBook but I would think that you should get the 
warning,
so there is something wrong. How long do you run on the battery?

-Laurent.

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Re: Low Battery Warning on iBook

2004-05-27 Thread Malcolm Cornelius
on 27/05/04 07:50, Susan Platter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The battery runs for three or four hours before disappearing. It has
 been suggested to me that the age of the battery (three years plus a
 bit) may be a factor in the Low Battery message no longer appearing. It
 used to appear, it seems, and it is not clear why this ceased.

OS version ?

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Re: Low Battery Warning on iBook

2004-05-27 Thread Susan Platter
When I first began using it, I spent some time updating, as my husband 
had not done any; now, Software Update and I are on first-name terms! ;D

It is a 500MHz iBook, with  18.65GB indicated.
Susan Platter
Swindon, Wiltshire
England
On Wednesday, May 26, 2004, at 08:35 AM, G-Books wrote:
Check your software is fully updated there was a bug in one version of 
X
such that the message didn't appear.

Also a very short life battery may hurtle past the message levels.
Which iBook is it btw ?
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Re: Low Battery Warning on iBook

2004-05-27 Thread Susan Platter
I have no problem with the battery not charging, or not giving me a 
good run for my money. I just want to know where the low-battery 
warning has gone! :D

Susan Platter
Swindon, Wiltshire
England
On Wednesday, May 26, 2004, at 05:48 PM, G-Books wrote:
Is a dual-USB iBook? The Apple discussion forums are full of posts
about the batteries in these models. I have one that shows about two
hours in the menu bar, but routinely sleeps after only five minutes or
less of use. Apple did create a reset utility for them, but a number of
people say that actually decreased their run time instead. I installed
it but it didn't change anything.
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Re: Will this Apple Sodimm work in a Wallstreet PDQ (Series II) ?

2004-05-27 Thread George Mogiljansky
I was able to find this info about the Samsung sodimm:
K4S510832C

KC75/C1H/C1L

KL75/L1H/L1L

64M x 8

LVTTL

8K

3.3 

±

0.3V

D D P

TSOP2

54pin

Now

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 According to the seller, the following is sold by
 Apple.
 But will it work in a WS 300 MHz Series II PDQ ?

 Samsung 022
 K4S510832C-KL75
 ATCA66CA KOREA

 KOREA 0222
 PC133S-333-542
 M464S6453CKS-L7A

 Thanks
 George





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Re: Low Battery Warning on iBook

2004-05-27 Thread Malcolm Cornelius
on 27/05/04 08:04, Susan Platter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When I first began using it, I spent some time updating, as my husband
 had not done any; now, Software Update and I are on first-name terms! ;D
 
 It is a 500MHz iBook, with  18.65GB indicated.
 

And the OS version is 10.1 ? 10.2 ? 10.3 ?

There was one stage in OS X at which low battery warnings didn't appear, a
google or apple.com should tell you if this is your problem.

3-4 is pretty good btw !

Best

Malcolm


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known common problems with PB G4 550

2004-05-27 Thread Mikael Byström
Are there any known common problems for the PB G4 550, not DVI, that one
should keep in mind?





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Re: Will this Apple Sodimm work in a Wallstreet PDQ (Series II) ?

2004-05-27 Thread Mikael Byström
George, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

But will it work in a WS 300 MHz Series II PDQ ?
What is the density of the module?



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Re: Opinions on CDs

2004-05-27 Thread Mikael Byström
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1. Brand matters little 
I disagre. Experience will tell some brands are better IMHO. The question
is which ones.

and pricing is definately not an indication 
of quality.  Some stores seem to carry better quality discs than 
others.  My overall fav is GQ (Great Quality), from Fry Electronics 
(aka outpost.com).  Zero coasters and so far only 2 of those have 
degraded (out of 400+).

Have any one tried the new TDK DVD discs that have wacky CD in the 80's
type of marketing? If they can say you can use these for washing up and
coasters in this century, I wonder what they have to back that up? Surely
noone is naive enough to assume that kind of treatment would be possible.



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wear and tear on 15.2 PBG4 display and cures

2004-05-27 Thread Mikael Byström
Considering the common problem of the early PB G4's with the keyboard
scratching the display surface: Are there any finishes one can (re)apply
to diminish the problem or other cures?

On most displays this isn't visible under normal operation as the light
drowns or masks the problem, but when working in daylight I can imagine
it being a real problem.




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Re: PB G4 fan replacement, options?

2004-05-27 Thread Mikael Byström
Jeff, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

There is a little bit of room on top of the heat sink, but not very 
much. Are you talking about a fan that is 2mm thick? That wouldn't move 
very much air. 

No, I was more aiming to remove the fan and put another in its place with
a thin heat detector connected to it. I know these exists, but I don't
know how they look.

Now, it looks I may abandon the project altogether.



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How to get 9 on disk w/o drivers

2004-05-27 Thread Run Vzel
CCC is not the only solution...you can just drag a 9 set up directly to your disk.  
Pull the system out of the system folder, drop it back in, you are set.  Worked for me.

Subject: Re: Partition with 10.2?

Hi JR, 
Your only (?) possible solution is Carbon Copy Cloner.
George

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 On May 26, 2004, at 3:10 PM, Bob wrote:
 
 
  So let me add:
  You need the OS 9 drivers for OS 9 to see the
 partitions. Once you
  have formatted the disk under OS-X's Disk Utility,
 it will no longer
  be recognized by older Disk Setups or by the OS-9
 Installer on the
  OS-9 System CD without those drivers.
 
  I often look at my Jaguar partition from a pre-OS
 X source. So I
  would recommend installing the OS 9 drivers on all
 partitions. It
  certainly won't hurt.
 
 I made the mistake of not doing this when I
 installed Panther on my 
 iBook. Now I can't install OS 9. I'd like to find
 some way around this, 
 but I doubt that's gonna happen, and I'm not about
 to format my disc 
 and start over again. It took way too long to do all
 the upgrades and 
 install everything and get it all back like I
 wanted.
 
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Re: How to get 9 on disk w/o drivers

2004-05-27 Thread John A
On May 27, 2004, at 3:42 AM, Run Vzel wrote:
CCC is not the only solution...you can just drag a 9 set up directly 
to your disk.  Pull the system out of the system folder, drop it back 
in, you are set.  Worked for me.

Subject: Re: Partition with 10.2?
Hi JR,
Your only (?) possible solution is Carbon Copy Cloner.
George
So can I do this on the same partition as my Panther install? I only 
have my drive set up as a single partition. Are you saying I can put my 
OS 9 disc in my CD drive and drag the OS 9 system folder onto my 
Panther disc and then use OS 9 from Panther? Would I then be able to 
boot into 9, or only use 9 from Panther as Classic?

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Re: How to get 9 on disk w/o drivers

2004-05-27 Thread John A
On May 27, 2004, at 3:55 AM, John A wrote:
On May 27, 2004, at 3:42 AM, Run Vzel wrote:
CCC is not the only solution...you can just drag a 9 set up directly 
to your disk.  Pull the system out of the system folder, drop it back 
in, you are set.  Worked for me.

Subject: Re: Partition with 10.2?
Hi JR,
Your only (?) possible solution is Carbon Copy Cloner.
George
So can I do this on the same partition as my Panther install? I only 
have my drive set up as a single partition. Are you saying I can put 
my OS 9 disc in my CD drive and drag the OS 9 system folder onto my 
Panther disc and then use OS 9 from Panther? Would I then be able to 
boot into 9, or only use 9 from Panther as Classic?
Well, I just tried this. I put the OS 9.2.2 disc in the drive, then 
dragged the system folder from the CD to my Panther desktop. Then I 
went into System Preferences under Classic, and set this folder to be 
the system folder for Classic. But when I tried to start Classic, the 
OS 9 start screen came up, and I got an error message, The system 
software on the startup disc only functions on the original media, not 
if copied to another drive. Maybe there is something else I need to 
do, or I have to put the system folder somewhere else on my drive other 
than the desktop.

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Re: How to get 9 on disk w/o drivers

2004-05-27 Thread Larry le Mac
From: John A [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well, I just tried this. I put the OS 9.2.2 disc in the drive, then dragged 
the system folder from the CD to my Panther desktop.
The system folder you have copied is the minimal startup system needed
to start up from the CD-ROM.
You need to back up an installed copy of the system that contains
all the system software necessary to do everything a Mac should be
able to do.
The system you've copied only contains enough software to install
the system. Also, it looks to make sure it's being booted from the CD.
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Re: wear and tear on 15.2 PBG4 display and cures

2004-05-27 Thread larry Zasitko
Mikeal,
There are screen protectors out there that you can put directly on the  
screen to protect it. I have also seen soft fabric sheets that cover  
the keyboard/trackpad etc and when closed will provide protection for  
the screens.

This problem as far as I know was fixed for the latest PowerBooks
On May 27, 2004, at 1:21 AM, Mikael Byström wrote:
Considering the common problem of the early PB G4's with the keyboard
scratching the display surface: Are there any finishes one can  
(re)apply
to diminish the problem or other cures?

On most displays this isn't visible under normal operation as the light
drowns or masks the problem, but when working in daylight I can imagine
it being a real problem.
 

Larry Zasitko
Graphite Clamshell SE, G3 366mhz, 576 meg ram
12 G4 1.33ghz PowerBook, 768 meg ram, Superdrive, Airport Extreme
Newton OMP, 110, 120, 2100 + eMate

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Re: Low Battery Warning on iBook

2004-05-27 Thread Susan Platter
Jaguar 10.2.8
Susan Platter
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 07:57:54 +0100
Subject: Re: Low Battery Warning on iBook
From: Malcolm Cornelius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 27/05/04 07:50, Susan Platter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The battery runs for three or four hours before disappearing. It has
been suggested to me that the age of the battery (three years plus a
bit) may be a factor in the Low Battery message no longer appearing. 
It
used to appear, it seems, and it is not clear why this ceased.
OS version ?

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Re: wear and tear on 15.2 PBG4 display and cures

2004-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/27/04 9:34 AM, larry Zasitko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mikeal,
 
 There are screen protectors out there that you can put directly on the
 screen to protect it. I have also seen soft fabric sheets that cover
 the keyboard/trackpad etc and when closed will provide protection for
 the screens.
 
 This problem as far as I know was fixed for the latest PowerBooks
 
The TiBooks, especially the original model, had such small clearance that
the keys actually left impressions in the LCD that remained even after
cleaning. Later models, it seemed to me, generally left oil but no permanent
impressions.

My new alBook LCD had oil from the Fkey row but no other keys. (This varies
from person to person. My office mate's alBook has oil marks from his return
and shift key but nothing else.) Interestingly, when the tech replaced my
LCD to fix the white spot problem (mine didn't show up until after 5 months
of use) it also solved the oil impression problem. Two months on the second
LCD and I haven't seen the first sign of oil.

david




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Re: Advice RE: The Snow ABS

2004-05-27 Thread Jeff Drummond
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I ran across someone wanting to sell a Snow (Dual Ethernet g) ABS. 
Not on eBay. They only had a partial model number, so neither one of 
us knew exactly what ABS it was. Now we're sure.

They're wanting $150 for it. Is that a decent price?

If you're happy paying it, then yes. ;)

Having said that, I will also note that they're going on eBay for
$100-$125; but of course you'd probably also have to pay shipping,
insurance, etc.

There were some issues regarding a problem with white residue 
appearing on the ABS motherboard which caused catastrophic failures. 
Can anyone add any more details about the problem and/or solution. Is 
it still a problem with those base stations?

The Graphite (first model) base stations had a defective capacitor problem.
The Snow/dual ethernet (second model) had the white residue problem, but
it's much less common that the defective capacitor problem in the Graphites.

Are there any other problems that I should be aware of with the Snow ABS?

None that I know of.

Hope this helps,

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Can't import contacts correctly from Mail to Entourage

2004-05-27 Thread Mike Kauspedas
When I drag the contact from the address book into Entourage it doesn't grab
the email address. So I get a name, etc, but no email address. Does anyone
know what I'm doing wrong? Are there 3rd party utilities I need to use? I
got all my email with the tool form MS, but it doesn't import contacts.
Thanks,

Mike


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Has anyone done business with PowerbookTech.com ??

2004-05-27 Thread Christopher Kolp
Has anyone on the list done business with PowerbookTech.com?
I recently purchased a few parts from there, however, a week later I've 
got a tracking number that doesn't work and no way to contact them. No 
response to repeated emails. They charged my card in a timely manner, 
though! I had thought it would be faster and less of a hassle than 
going with eBay...

Any experiences?
Thx,
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Grapplin' w/ a Graphite (iBook)

2004-05-27 Thread COCCORP
Could y'all help me be a lil' sneaky??
;-)

A computer scrapper I work with frequently recently received someone's old 
office equipment, that contained what appears to be a smashed-LCD screen iBook.

All I can tell about it is that it's graphite in color. I did not see it long 
enough to see if it had firewire, video out or anything... actually I did not 
look at it long at all(!), because my friend -- while his first-mind is that 
All Apples Are #*$%  -- once he sees you're interested in something he 
immediately goes and researches EPay.

I learned my lesson last time; he normally tosses PPC'd 540s, G3'd 1400s, or 
sells them to me. But last time, I stared at a 3400c he wanted $70 for just a 
bit too long(!), which prompted him to boot it up  discover that it was a 
240mhz model. A short time later after a trip to EPay, his price nearly tripled.

Anyway, the only other thing I noticed about the graphite iBook is that the 
top of the screen display had iBook only on the inside, and the button below 
the trackpad was graphite also.

Now, barring mix-match cases and internals, of course, can someone help me ID 
this puppy, if that's enough to go on? Thanks...

Craig W.
Atlanta GA

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Re: Grapplin' w/ a Graphite (iBook)

2004-05-27 Thread Malcolm Cornelius
 
 Anyway, the only other thing I noticed about the graphite iBook is that the
 top of the screen display had iBook only on the inside, and the button below
 the trackpad was graphite also.
 
 Now, barring mix-match cases and internals, of course, can someone help me ID
 this puppy, if that's enough to go on? Thanks...

Well there was a Graphite 366 non-Firewire and I think a 466 SE with DVD.

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os 9 install

2004-05-27 Thread illovox
 From: John A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: How to get 9 on disk w/o drivers
 Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 03:55:29 -0500

 CCC is not the only solution...you can just drag a 9 set up directly
 to your disk.  Pull the system out of the system folder, drop it back
 in, you are set.  Worked for me.

 Your only (?) possible solution is Carbon Copy Cloner.
 George
 
 So can I do this on the same partition as my Panther install? I only
 have my drive set up as a single partition.

Yes

 Are you saying I can put my
 OS 9 disc in my CD drive and drag the OS 9 system folder onto my
 Panther disc and then use OS 9 from Panther? Would I then be able to
 boot into 9, or only use 9 from Panther as Classic?

No, the system on an install disk is not configured correctly.  You need an
installed system on another disk, such as another powerbook connected via
target mode...


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Re: os 9 install

2004-05-27 Thread John A
On May 27, 2004, at 2:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: John A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to get 9 on disk w/o drivers
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 03:55:29 -0500

CCC is not the only solution...you can just drag a 9 set up directly
to your disk.  Pull the system out of the system folder, drop it back
in, you are set.  Worked for me.

Your only (?) possible solution is Carbon Copy Cloner.
George
So can I do this on the same partition as my Panther install? I only
have my drive set up as a single partition.
Yes
Are you saying I can put my
OS 9 disc in my CD drive and drag the OS 9 system folder onto my
Panther disc and then use OS 9 from Panther? Would I then be able to
boot into 9, or only use 9 from Panther as Classic?
No, the system on an install disk is not configured correctly.  You 
need an
installed system on another disk, such as another powerbook connected 
via
target mode...

Guess I'm SOL then. The only other machines I have around here with 
Firewire are X only..

JR
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Re: Partition with 10.2?

2004-05-27 Thread Mikael Byström
Another aspect, 

IMHO, Mac OS X 10.3.x with XPostFacto3 ( I use the a14 version) works
much better on at least the Wallstreet II (PDQ) than do Jaguar. The only
thing that doesn't work for me is sound going in, which probably can be
solved with a new PCMCIA soundcard with a specific sound driver for that
hardware, but I haven't really tried that.
I run a PCMCIA airport card (Open source driver) trough the PCMCIA, so I
have none of the mentioned XPF FAQ problems regarding this port. Same
goes for sleep, which is working perfectly.

So, while Panther may set you off another $60 or so second hand, IMO it
is worth that.

I'm seem to be leaving the WS II finally after 2 years, going to a
PowerBook G4 instead. Which is good as I suppose Tiger will be difficult
to support on the WS. But so did Panther look from the outset. 




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Re: wear and tear on 15.2 PBG4 display and cures

2004-05-27 Thread Jim Katz
Let me add my voice - I have an original Ti-400.  No keyboard 'scratches'
ever, and I have not seen any on any other machines.  The finger oil marks
do clean off with moist wipes of different sorts, or screen cleaner if you
want to spend money for brand names.  No real marks in three years.

The improvement in the situation after a repair is often due to the
repairman replacing the tiny rubber bumper/spacers at the front corners of
the machine. The keyboard temporarily no longer touches the screen until
they wear down again.

Now can somebody tell me how to keep the screw next to the power adapter
input from loosening all the time...?


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Re: wear and tear on 15.2 PBG4 display and cures

2004-05-27 Thread Mikael Byström
Kyle, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The screen doesn't get scratched.

If the machine receives pressure and there is dust, it can get scratched



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Re: Will this Apple Sodimm work in a Wallstreet PDQ (Series II) ?

2004-05-27 Thread Eugene Lee
On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 10:54:37PM +0200, Mikael Byström wrote:

: From: Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Re: Will this Apple Sodimm work in a Wallstreet PDQ (Series II) ?
: Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 22:54:37 +0200
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: George, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
: 
: But will it work in a WS 300 MHz Series II PDQ ?
:
: What is the density of the module?

I wish people wouldn't mix cases of known acronyms.  It's supposed to be
SO-DIMM, not Sodimm.  When I first saw the latter in the Subject, I 
thought it said sodium.  :-)


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Re: Will this Apple Sodimm work in a Wallstreet PDQ (Series II) ?

2004-05-27 Thread Nils
I agree with the Eugene Lee. It's SO-DIMM.

My replys to the Adding RAM to WS II thread will help answer your question.
It looks like the part number you've provided is one from the top of one of
the chips on the memory module. A Samsung K4S510832C.

Now that we know the density of the chips, how many are there?
It might work. If it does, it probably won't be recognized as the correct size.

  64 x 8 = 512 Mb
  512 x number of chips = Mb
  Mb / 8 = MB

I believe the memory controller in the Wallstreet can only address memory
chips of either 8M depth or 32 bit width.  Not sure which at this point.

Reading on xlr8yourmac.com some people are saying that the controller
can only address memory chips of 128 megabit. And chip stacking is used
to achive higher module sizes.

I thin the module you're asking about probably wont work.

-nils

references : 

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/OSX/OS_X_on_PB_wallstreet.html

 K4S510832C
 KC75/C1H/C1L
 KL75/L1H/L1L
 64M x 8
 LVTTL
 8K
 3.3 
 ?
 0.3V
 D D P
 TSOP2
 54pin
 Now

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Re: Grapplin' w/ a Graphite (iBook)

2004-05-27 Thread larry Zasitko
Hi,
There were two versions of the Graphite and both were called SE's.
I have a first generation Graphite SE Clamshell so..
The first generation Graphite was 366 mhz, 4 meg video, 6 gig hard drive
The second generation Graphite was 466 mhz, 8 meg video, 10 gig hard  
drive and the firewire port

Both still fetch pretty good prices on Ebay
On May 27, 2004, at 1:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could y'all help me be a lil' sneaky??
;-)
A computer scrapper I work with frequently recently received someone's  
old
office equipment, that contained what appears to be a smashed-LCD  
screen iBook.

All I can tell about it is that it's graphite in color. I did not see  
it long
enough to see if it had firewire, video out or anything... actually I  
did not
look at it long at all(!), because my friend -- while his first-mind  
is that
All Apples Are #*$%  -- once he sees you're interested in something  
he
immediately goes and researches EPay.

I learned my lesson last time; he normally tosses PPC'd 540s, G3'd  
1400s, or
sells them to me. But last time, I stared at a 3400c he wanted $70 for  
just a
bit too long(!), which prompted him to boot it up  discover that it  
was a
240mhz model. A short time later after a trip to EPay, his price  
nearly tripled.

Anyway, the only other thing I noticed about the graphite iBook is  
that the
top of the screen display had iBook only on the inside, and the  
button below
the trackpad was graphite also.

Now, barring mix-match cases and internals, of course, can someone  
help me ID
this puppy, if that's enough to go on? Thanks...

Craig W.
Atlanta GA
 

Larry Zasitko
Graphite Clamshell SE, G3 366mhz, 576 meg ram
12 G4 1.33ghz PowerBook, 768 meg ram, Superdrive, Airport Extreme
Newton OMP, 110, 120, 2100 + eMate

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Re: Has anyone done business with PowerbookTech.com ??

2004-05-27 Thread Shawn Harley
I had great service from them, but it's been about a year since I used 
them. Found them to be priced right, honest and quick on my repair. 
I'll see if I can dig up the phone number and post it. I spoke with 
Daniel.

On May 27, 2004, at 1:44 PM, Christopher Kolp wrote:
Has anyone on the list done business with PowerbookTech.com?
I recently purchased a few parts from there, however, a week later 
I've got a tracking number that doesn't work and no way to contact 
them. No response to repeated emails. They charged my card in a timely 
manner, though! I had thought it would be faster and less of a hassle 
than going with eBay...

Any experiences?
Thx,
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How to force shut down? (was: HD in Lombard running hot)

2004-05-27 Thread gf sciacca
I'm now stuck with a OS X installer CD as the only device the Lombard will
start up from, the HD has disappeared altogheter from the installer and
disk utility options and is quite hot, which indicates some weird
activity inside. The question now is: how do I force a shut down in order
to pull out the HD? The computer won't start from any other bootable
system I have on CD and won't start from external FireWire and SCSI
either, it only accepts an OS X install CD and I can't find any option to
shut down from it.

I just summarise the background events for those who were following the
thread and gave suggestions and anybody who could recognise some
pathology:
- Hitachi Travelstar 40GNX 40GB in a Lombard makes continuous seek-click
noise when booted in the freshly installed OS X Panther partition. Normal
behaviour when booted in the OS 9 partition. Disc usage is less than 10%
- no fragmentation issues, specially in the OS X partition (just clean
installed). Additional software was installed. I replicated the same setup
that was previously running under Jaguar.
- tried to wipe the OS X partition and installed Jaguar on it. Normal
behaviour, no clicking noise, HD runs cool and fine.
- tried to install Panther in the OS 9 partition (no additional software
installations): normal HD behaviour, runs cool, no noise
- cloned the original Panther setup back onto the wiped OS X partition:
clicking noise is back
- wiped the OS partition again (disk utility) in order to re-install
freashly Panther hoping I would get through fine. Freeze, force restart:
HD does not mount and is quite hot. Don't know how to shut downn.

The reason why I tried out all of the above is that I wanted to find out
(or rule out) that the problem would come from some weird combination of
software and/or OS settings, which I'm sort of convinced it is the case.
By the way, the HD is still covered by warranty, I just did not want to
return the HD in the case the problem were somehow software/OS related.

thanks for any help! cheers, gianfranco

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Re: Opinions on CDs

2004-05-27 Thread Clyde Kahrl
	The kind of CD blanks you use is really important.  It is 
particularly important if you want your disks to play in some machine 
other than the machine that burned it.   Here is a reference to a 
site where people spend a lot of time on this issue.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/forumdisplay.php?s=forumid=33
See also these FAQs:http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq07.html#S7
	What you discover, reading this thing, is that there is a 
huge variation in the dynamic range of the recorded signal from disk 
to disk, burner to burner and speed to speed.

	I now use only Fuji 48 CDRs and I burn them at 40.   I can 
often get them at  These are Taiyo Yuden disks (silvery greenish blue 
on bottom).Please note, that just because it says Fuji, that 
doesn't mean it's a Taiyo Yuden disk--but this model is.  DONT get 
the music cd disks.

	Rite Aid sells stacks for 18 bucks and 12 bucks on sale.  I 
have used staples brand disks and other brands.   They produce a 
coaster periodically, but the reason you don't use them is that 
invariably you can't use them on a machine other than the one you 
burned them on.  And isn't that the point of disks anyway?

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TiBook 550mhz with vertical racing stripe on screen

2004-05-27 Thread Clyde Kahrl
	I have seen horizontal stripes on G3 pbooks.   These are 
typically caused by a bad ribbon cable connection or so I am told.

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Re: How to force shut down? (was: HD in Lombard running hot)

2004-05-27 Thread Eugene Lee
On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 03:52:18AM +0200, gf sciacca wrote:
: 
: I'm now stuck with a OS X installer CD as the only device the Lombard will
: start up from, the HD has disappeared altogheter from the installer and
: disk utility options and is quite hot, which indicates some weird
: activity inside. The question now is: how do I force a shut down in order
: to pull out the HD? The computer won't start from any other bootable
: system I have on CD and won't start from external FireWire and SCSI
: either, it only accepts an OS X install CD and I can't find any option to
: shut down from it.
: 
: I just summarise the background events for those who were following the
: thread and gave suggestions and anybody who could recognise some
: pathology:
: - Hitachi Travelstar 40GNX 40GB in a Lombard makes continuous seek-click
: noise when booted in the freshly installed OS X Panther partition. Normal
: behaviour when booted in the OS 9 partition. Disc usage is less than 10%

If your hard drive is continually making clicking sounds whiled booted
into OS X, even though it doesn't do so in OS 9, it should be replaced
ASAP, IMO.  It's under warranty, so get yourself a new drive and a new
lease on hard drive life.

: - tried to wipe the OS X partition and installed Jaguar on it. Normal
: behaviour, no clicking noise, HD runs cool and fine.
: - tried to install Panther in the OS 9 partition (no additional software
: installations): normal HD behaviour, runs cool, no noise
: - cloned the original Panther setup back onto the wiped OS X partition:
: clicking noise is back

If you are not ready to replace the hard drive, I would reformat the
drive, install OS 9, install Panther, and then copy only *your* stuff
from your old Panther backup (avoid cloning).


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Re: How to force shut down? (was: HAD in Lombard running hot)

2004-05-27 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 3:52 AM +0200 5/28/04, gf sciacca wrote:

I'm now stuck with a OS X installer CD as the only device the Lombard will
start up from, the HD has disappeared altogheter from the installer and
disk utility options and is quite hot, which indicates some weird
activity inside. The question now is: how do I force a shut down in order
to pull out the HD? The computer won't start from any other bootable
system I have on CD and won't start from external FireWire and SCSI
either, it only accepts an OS X install CD and I can't find any option to
shut down from it.

As a last resort you can always take the battery(ies) out and unplug 
the unit. That will shut it down. :-)

Bob


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