Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233
The National Enquirer reports at 3:01 PM +1000 10/27/04, Ben Dyer wrote: Mike, OS X 10.3.5 should run OK on that machine. A 4GB hard drive is enough, but you'll need to deselect a few options during the install (I'd suggest not bothering with the BSD subsystem, additional printer drivers, or additional languages). Once it's stripped down to the bare bones, a Panther install takes up a little less than 1GB. Allowing 400MB for the 9.2 installation and 600MB for swap, that leaves you with about 2GB free (IIRC the Wallstreet 4GB drive is actually 4GB *formatted*). Although you *can* use the 4GB, I would recommend against it. It's not merely the OS installation that you need to be concerned about, You need a considerable amount of room for all of the applications that you will want to use, room for OS X swap files, cache files etc. Then after all that, OS X can begin to react somewhat funky if you have less than 15-20% free space on the H.D all the time. If you want to use OS 9, OS 9 apps and data files, then you are going to need even more hard disk space. Personally (and this is just my own opinion on things), I wouldn't recommend using anything less than 10GB (20GB would even be better). Even if you are satisfied with a small drive today, you may very likely run out of room in the near future. And who wants to go through reinstalling *another* drive and having to move everything over to it unnecessarily? A 20GB drive (which is considered small these days) should be fairly inexpensive (what, $60-$80?). You don't need to set up separate partitions for OS 9 and OS X, I'd recommend leaving it all on the one. You don't need to, but here again, I would suggest doing so. There arguments both ways on this subject. But I haven't heard one that negates the advantage of being able to boot your Wallstreet from a separate partition if you need to. In addition, keeping OS 9 and OS X separate will prevent you from losing everything if you have major corruption on one of the partitions. I would seriously consider using several partitions if you go with a 20GB drive. Keeping your data on a separate partition helps to protect it as well. As I say, I'm sure there are going to be other list-members who are going to give reasons why they don't recommend partitioning with OS X (not making the partitions big enough to start with etc.). And I'm not saying that my way is the only way -- or even the best way for everyone. But from someone who has partitioned every drive I've had for the past 12-15 years, I do know the advantages. I could go on and on about the advantages. But I don't have the time at the moment, and it basically boils down to what you really want. HTH, Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: UDF CDs in OS X?
On 10/26/04 10:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:50 PM -0400 10/26/2004, Richard Smykla wrote: AFAIK, You'll have to boot from OS 9 to get at those files. By decree of L'Jobs, the new PowerBooks cannot boot OS 9. Of course, you'll need to find a machine other than your PB to do it. That doesn't help read CDs on the road -- which is the point of buying a PB instead of a PM. Why is it so hard to make Macs work in the real world? sigh. UDF is a great idea that in the real world doesn't work so great. When Sony released their mini CD based Mavika cameras my employer bought a dozen of them because the floppy based system had worked so flawlessly. After 6 months we dumped them because we experienced so many failures. (Note, we are mainly a PC enterprise so the issue wasn't Mac support.) The only time Macs don't work well in the real world, in my experience, is when we run up against marginal PC technology that has been forced upon us. Of course, since PC technology so often fails us, PC problems are taken as a matter of course while Mac problems infuriate us due, at least in part, to their infrequency. david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233
Thanks Ben and Bob, So if I were going to start from scratch and set up multiple partitions, would the install of OS X still be pretty straightforward? I mean, using XPostFacto to run the install, will it give me the option of choosing a partition, or does it only install OS X to the partition where XPostFacto resides? Sorry for the ignorant questions, but I want to make sure I know what the heck I'm doing before I jump in. Also, where can I score a 20GB drive for $60 - $80? All the used ones I can find are over $120. Thanks again, Mike -Original Message- From: Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:51 AM To: G-Books Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233 The National Enquirer reports at 3:01 PM +1000 10/27/04, Ben Dyer wrote: Mike, OS X 10.3.5 should run OK on that machine. A 4GB hard drive is enough, but you'll need to deselect a few options during the install (I'd suggest not bothering with the BSD subsystem, additional printer drivers, or additional languages). Once it's stripped down to the bare bones, a Panther install takes up a little less than 1GB. Allowing 400MB for the 9.2 installation and 600MB for swap, that leaves you with about 2GB free (IIRC the Wallstreet 4GB drive is actually 4GB *formatted*). Although you *can* use the 4GB, I would recommend against it. It's not merely the OS installation that you need to be concerned about, You need a considerable amount of room for all of the applications that you will want to use, room for OS X swap files, cache files etc. Then after all that, OS X can begin to react somewhat funky if you have less than 15-20% free space on the H.D all the time. If you want to use OS 9, OS 9 apps and data files, then you are going to need even more hard disk space. Personally (and this is just my own opinion on things), I wouldn't recommend using anything less than 10GB (20GB would even be better). Even if you are satisfied with a small drive today, you may very likely run out of room in the near future. And who wants to go through reinstalling *another* drive and having to move everything over to it unnecessarily? A 20GB drive (which is considered small these days) should be fairly inexpensive (what, $60-$80?). You don't need to set up separate partitions for OS 9 and OS X, I'd recommend leaving it all on the one. You don't need to, but here again, I would suggest doing so. There arguments both ways on this subject. But I haven't heard one that negates the advantage of being able to boot your Wallstreet from a separate partition if you need to. In addition, keeping OS 9 and OS X separate will prevent you from losing everything if you have major corruption on one of the partitions. I would seriously consider using several partitions if you go with a 20GB drive. Keeping your data on a separate partition helps to protect it as well. As I say, I'm sure there are going to be other list-members who are going to give reasons why they don't recommend partitioning with OS X (not making the partitions big enough to start with etc.). And I'm not saying that my way is the only way -- or even the best way for everyone. But from someone who has partitioned every drive I've had for the past 12-15 years, I do know the advantages. I could go on and on about the advantages. But I don't have the time at the moment, and it basically boils down to what you really want. HTH, Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233
For use as a primary machine, 4GB is certainly insufficient. But, for use as a secondary machine for word processing, web browsing, etc., 4GB is more than adequate. As I noted, after you install minimal operating systems and only the necessary applications, *and* leave room for swap, there will still be around 2GB available. I have OS 9, OS X 10.3.5, Photoshop, CodeWarrior, and many other applications (plus the subset of my documents that I'm using at any given time) on my 4GB Wallstreet, and there's still about 600-800MB free at any given moment. The way I see it is this: a Wallstreet will never be an adequate primary OS X machine. If you want to get large volumes of serious work done, you'd be best off using OS 9. I tend to use mine for temporary photo storage, word processing, and as an extra display for web browsing while I'm working on my iBook; particularly when I'm traveling, I prefer to have a Wallstreet on me, as an A$300 computer is a lot less of a worry than a A$2500 computer. Because of this limited usage potential, I am reluctant to upgrade the hard drive -- if I need files at home, I can just connect over the network to one of my more capacious machines, and if want to take them with me, chances are there will be few enough of them that they will fit. But really, it comes down to usage. If you've already got a desktop or main laptop, and you're just wanting to get the Wallstreet set up so you can do some productive work while on holiday, traveling, and so forth, 4GB will likely be enough. If, on the other hand, you fit the Your Life. To Go. usage pattern, you'd be best off with the biggest drive you can afford. Of course, it would make even more sense to get a new computer. Wonderful though the Wallstreets are, they're never going to be good performers under OS X. Cheers, Ben (As for partitioning: I used to partition my drives, but I find it's just too restrictive, and that there are very few advantages. No amount of partitioning has ever saved me from drive corruption, either. But, YMMV, EOE, all the rest -- do what you think is best.) On 27 Oct 2004, at 19:51, Bob wrote: Although you *can* use the 4GB, I would recommend against it. It's not merely the OS installation that you need to be concerned about, You need a considerable amount of room for all of the applications that you will want to use, room for OS X swap files, cache files etc. Then after all that, OS X can begin to react somewhat funky if you have less than 15-20% free space on the H.D all the time. If you want to use OS 9, OS 9 apps and data files, then you are going to need even more hard disk space. Personally (and this is just my own opinion on things), I wouldn't recommend using anything less than 10GB (20GB would even be better). Even if you are satisfied with a small drive today, you may very likely run out of room in the near future. And who wants to go through reinstalling *another* drive and having to move everything over to it unnecessarily? A 20GB drive (which is considered small these days) should be fairly inexpensive (what, $60-$80?). -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233
As far as I can tell, there are no 20GB 2.5 IDE drives around for that little. Unfortunately, they're still very expensive compared to their desktop counterparts. The thing you need to remember when upgrading the Wallstreet's drive is that it can't use ATA-6 devices (that's Ultra-ATA/100; I've never seen ATA/133 on a laptop drive, but it's safe to say it wouldn't work either) -- ATA-5 (Ultra-ATA/66) is the maximum. This eliminates most new IBM/Hitachi and Seagate drives; the best brand to go for is probably Toshiba. Also, I'd recommend staying away from used hard drives. They're the most critical component of the system in that if they fail, not only can you not use the computer, you've also just lost your data; it does not pay to cut corners as far as drives are concerned. Installing OS X using XPostFacto with multiple partitions shouldn't be a problem at all. You can choose which volume to start off, which to install on, and so forth. There's a potential issue that can occur during installation: the PRAM settings may not be retained correctly after the restart, so the machine may begin to start in OS 9, then restart automatically, and start in X. Sometimes you also get a kernel panic or other errors; all you can do is restart under 9, and go through the whole process again. Leave the XPostFacto options alone; most of them don't do anything good for the Wallstreet. Once OS X is installed and configured properly, you should find it is fairly stable, and also surprisingly useable (especially in Thousands of Colours mode). Cheers, Ben On 27 Oct 2004, at 23:36, Michael Clarke wrote: Thanks Ben and Bob, So if I were going to start from scratch and set up multiple partitions, would the install of OS X still be pretty straightforward? I mean, using XPostFacto to run the install, will it give me the option of choosing a partition, or does it only install OS X to the partition where XPostFacto resides? Sorry for the ignorant questions, but I want to make sure I know what the heck I'm doing before I jump in. Also, where can I score a 20GB drive for $60 - $80? All the used ones I can find are over $120. Thanks again, Mike -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: UDF CDs in OS X?
AFAIK, You'll have to boot from OS 9 to get at those files. By decree of L'Jobs, the new PowerBooks cannot boot OS 9. Of course, you'll need to find a machine other than your PB to do it. That doesn't help read CDs on the road -- which is the point of buying a PB instead of a PM. How about installing Yellow Dog Linux (or some other Linux) on a small partition, then Mac-on-Linux on it, and then OS 9 inside? I know it's probably very uncomfortable, and requires rebooting, but at least it's something to begin with. (Mac-on-Linux does not work natively on Mac OS X yet... although people are working on it.) Marcin Wichary e:\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary Attached w:\ www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/gui Graphical User Interface gallery w:\ www.10yearsofbeingboring.com 10 years of Being Boring w:\ www.usability.pl Usability.pl -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: UDF CDs in OS X?
-Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 17:05 To: G-Books Subject: UDF CDs in OS X? We gots dozens of CDs here, in UDF format, that can't be read on our brand new PowerBook... *grumble* Apple's UDF driver only supports the older UDF versions. For CDs written this century, one normally needs a UDF 1.5 compliant driver. Roxio (who owns UDF, I guess) has a 1.5 driver for OS 8/9. But it doesn't work in Classic? And apparently they're irked at Apple for trying to crush their disc authoring/burning business... So they have no driver for OS X. Anyone know where to get such a beastie? Thx, - Dan. --- I just found this company who sells UDF v1 - v2.0.1 drivers for both X and 8.6 - 9. There website is here http://www.softarch.com/index.html. If I can find a free driver I will let you know. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233
On 27 Oct 2004, at 23:36, Michael Clarke wrote: Thanks Ben and Bob, So if I were going to start from scratch and set up multiple partitions, would the install of OS X still be pretty straightforward? I mean, using XPostFacto to run the install, will it give me the option of choosing a partition, or does it only install OS X to the partition where XPostFacto resides? Sorry for the ignorant questions, but I want to make sure I know what the heck I'm doing before I jump in. Also, where can I score a 20GB drive for $60 - $80? All the used ones I can find are over $120. Thanks again, Mike I just bought new 60gb drives for less that $120. If you are paying more that $80 for a 20gb 2.5in IDE drive you are being ripped off. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=listcatalog=380DEPA=0 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233
There are 2 drives on that site that will definitely work with the Wallstreet -- a 20GB 4200RPM Toshiba for $72, and a 40GB 4200RPM Hitachi for $129. The Toshiba drive doesn't seem to be rated too highly, though. Cheers, Ben On 28 Oct 2004, at 00:30, John C. Swanson wrote: I just bought new 60gb drives for less that $120. If you are paying more that $80 for a 20gb 2.5in IDE drive you are being ripped off. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp? submit=listcatalog=380DEPA=0 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233 Hi, I have an installation question. I have a Wallstreet 266 w/512MB of RAM and a 4GB hard drive. Will I need to get a higher capacity hard drive to run OS X 10.3.5? Also, are there any other special steps involved in the OS X install... such as setting up the disk with separate partitions for OS 9 OS X, or do you just install OS 9 first, then OS X? Thanks for your help! Mike From: Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:19:28 +1000 To: G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stanton, I'm running OS X 10.3.5 on two Wallstreet IIs, one originally 266MHz overclocked to 300MHz with 512MB RAM, and the other at 266MHz with 128MB RAM. Both run it surprisingly well, given the age of the hardware. The only issue I have is that removing a CD drive from the expansion bay while the machine is awake, and after having inserted and ejected a CD, occasionally causes a kernel panic. The problem can be avoided by putting the system to sleep, removing the drive, and waking it back up. Note also that the floppy drive is unsupported under OS X. A rough guide to getting OS X 10.3 running is as follows: 1. Download and install XPostFacto (http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/Archive/ XPostFacto3.0b8.sit) 2. Insert your 10.3 install CD 3. Launch the XPostFacto application, and click Install (just use the default options for now) 4. Complete the Panther install process, and restart 5. Download and install the updates from Software Update 6. Restart in OS 9, launch the XPostFacto application, go to the Install menu, and select Everything 7. Put the machine to sleep, and wake it up again 8. Restart in OS X If at any stage the machine loses power completely (i.e. PRAM battery flat, and both battery and power adapter not present), you'll need to start up in OS 9, put the machine to sleep, wake it up, and restart in X in order to reset the PMU correctly. Failure to do this will result in backlight problems under OS X. It's also possible to get limited 2D graphics acceleration by modifying the Rage Pro drivers from OS X 10.2.6 (later versions cause frequent kernel panics, and earlier versions don't seem to make a difference). If you need the extra 8-10% GUI performance it provides, contact me off-list. That said, I suspect that for serious Photoshop use, the Wallstreet (particularly a 233MHz model) will prove to be woefully inadequate. You might scrape by if all you're doing is creating low-resolution web graphics, but any file larger than a few megabytes will bring it to its knees. Cheers, Ben On 17 Oct 2004, at 09:59, Stanton Mitrany wrote: Hi, Gang! I'm posting this inquiry for a friend of mine, who is considering switching to Macintosh: If I get a Wallstreet II 233 from a friend, what is be the highest version of OS10 I can run on it? I want to be able to use it with the new Adobe Creative Suite (Photoshop, GoLive etc) which, I think, requires OS10. Thanks, friends! My friend will be grateful for your response. All the best, stanton I have a wallstreet 300 mhz powerbook with 384 meg ram i have had OSX 2.8 on it and it worked fine. I recently tried to install Panther on it, it would not let me install it as it did not have USB on the powerbook. I pulled a dead Bronze keyboard 400 mhz G3 powerbook out of storage out of storage, ordered a 2nd hand processor from United States. I did have trouble installing it as the dvd drive is not genuine mac I have taken it out of an IBM thinkpad. There was no way to start the powerbook up as with panther as the startup disc. Frustration got the better of me I ended up taking the drive out of my Powerbook and fitting it into a firwire case and running it on a G4 Dual Processor installing the system onto the firewire drive then fiting it back into the Powerbook. It all works fine except it does not read DVD movies in OS X were it did in os 9.2. Cheers Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by
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Re: booting questions
Unless someone proves me wrong, I'm almost positive that the Option-boot will *not* work on the Wallstreet. Another one of the quirks of venerable Wallstreet. Option-boot (aka Startup Manager) is available only on machines with Open Firmware. I believe that the first Power Book to be so equipped was the Pismo. Herb Goodfriend -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: booting questions
On 27/10/04 12:59, Herbert Goodfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless someone proves me wrong, I'm almost positive that the Option-boot will *not* work on the Wallstreet. Another one of the quirks of venerable Wallstreet. Option-boot (aka Startup Manager) is available only on machines with Open Firmware. I believe that the first Power Book to be so equipped was the Pismo. OpenFirmware has been around for longer than that but initially, it was pretty limited. It wasn't until the Pismo that you could do anything interesting with it. Still, for non-New World ROM Macintosh, there are still a few options that will work. If I recall correctly, option at boot will always boot from OS 9 if such a thing is installed... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
office X
Hi all I have site license and then we are on network sometimes we get error that word is being used by anther user on anther computer and can open word on this computer any one had this problem and do you know a fix Michael Sharon Vogt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: office X
On 27/10/04 14:04, michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I have site license and then we are on network sometimes we get error that word is being used by anther user on anther computer and can open word on this computer any one had this problem and do you know a fix There is a known fix for this problem. I'm not going to tell you on this list but I'm sure that if you do a little research, you'll find the answer... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: UDF CDs in OS X?
At 07:25 AM -0700 10/27/2004, John C. Swanson wrote: I just found this company who sells UDF v1 - v2.0.1 drivers for both X and 8.6 - 9. There website is here http://www.softarch.com/index.html. If I can find a free driver I will let you know. Thx John. I found the same site this morning via reading the specs on UDF itself. Apparently the original author of the UDF ext for Roxio now works for Softarch? That was the good news. The bad news: I paid the $24.95 for ReadDVD!, download installed it on the PowerBook, and it doesn't work. The web site sounds like this is full release software, but from the readme contained within the package, it is apparently unfinished beta software. It lists the inability to mount ISO9660/UDF CDs in the eratta! I sent email to them. No reply yet. :( - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: UDF CDs in OS X?
At 10:54 PM -0400 10/26/2004, Laurent Daudelin wrote: on 26/10/04 22:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it so hard to make Macs work in the real world? Well, Dan, it depends. For me, my Macs work fine in the real world. I've never had to read any UDF CD since I've been using Macs, which is back in 1985. So, I don't miss them really. Check out the UDF specs -- its the underlying format for DVD Video discs. Apple's failure to support UDF 2.0.1 turns out to be why some new commercial DVD movies won't play on Macs. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: UDF CDs in OS X?
At 04:17 PM +0200 10/27/2004, Marcin Wichary wrote: AFAIK, You'll have to boot from OS 9 to get at those files. By decree of L'Jobs, the new PowerBooks cannot boot OS 9. Of course, you'll need to find a machine other than your PB to do it. That doesn't help read CDs on the road -- which is the point of buying a PB instead of a PM. How about installing Yellow Dog Linux (or some other Linux) on a small partition, then Mac-on-Linux on it, and then OS 9 inside? I know it's probably very uncomfortable, and requires rebooting, but at least it's something to begin with. hum. Such a wierd idea, it would probably work. Not too fond of the idea of adding yet-another OS to the PB tho. My housemate is having enough trouble with OS X. Thx for the idea, - Dna. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: office X
On Oct 27, 2004, at 3:01 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: There is a known fix for this problem. I'm not going to tell you on this list but I'm sure that if you do a little research, you'll find the answer... took me about 3 minutes with Google. hint: always check the website of the company that developed the software. In google, you can limit to a site/domain by using the site: flag, so instead of foo bash bar try foo bash bar site:microsoft.com TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: office X
On Oct 27, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: took me about 3 minutes with Google. hint: always check the website of the company that developed the software. In google, you can limit to a site/domain by using the site: flag, so instead of foo bash bar try foo bash bar site:microsoft.com Thanks, Timothy. You must be a lot better at Googling than I am. I've spent way more than 3 minutes and I'm still in the dark. Why can't the fix just be posted here? Regards, Harry Corsover === Harry Corsover, Independent Business Owner CyberWize: The Home Business Solution Amazing Travel * Health Wellness * Tax Benefits http://www.hc.cyberwize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 877-507-9562 === -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: UDF CDs in OS X?
On Oct 27, 2004, at 3:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple's failure to support UDF 2.0.1 turns out to be why some new commercial DVD movies won't play on Macs. Who'd wanna watch DVD's of commercials, anyway? :)) -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1st/pci-powermacs list nanny Why not just go to war for oil? We need oil. What do Hollywood celebrities imagine fuels their private jets? How do you think their cocaine is delivered to them? -- Ann Coulter -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: office X
On 27/10/04 18:17, Harry D. Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: took me about 3 minutes with Google. hint: always check the website of the company that developed the software. In google, you can limit to a site/domain by using the site: flag, so instead of foo bash bar try foo bash bar site:microsoft.com Thanks, Timothy. You must be a lot better at Googling than I am. I've spent way more than 3 minutes and I'm still in the dark. Why can't the fix just be posted here? Because the solution is to defeat the mechanism by which any Office component can check the network for another copy running, which kind of mean defeating a copy protection. That wouldn't be very smart to post in a public list like this one and could get LowEndMac in trouble. Pretty much the same reason why posting links to illegitimate copies of Apple Service Manuals is a no-no as we don't want to have the Apple legal counsel on our backs... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: office X
On Oct 27, 2004, at 4:21 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Because the solution is to defeat the mechanism by which any Office component can check the network for another copy running, which kind of mean defeating a copy protection. That wouldn't be very smart to post in a public list like this one and could get LowEndMac in trouble. Pretty much the same reason why posting links to illegitimate copies of Apple Service Manuals is a no-no as we don't want to have the Apple legal counsel on our backs... -Laurent. OK. Makes sense; thanks. And I guess it means that searching on the Microsoft site for this fix isn't likely to result in success . . . Regards, Harry Corsover === Harry Corsover, Independent Business Owner CyberWize: The Home Business Solution Amazing Travel * Health Wellness * Tax Benefits http://www.hc.cyberwize.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 877-507-9562 === -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: booting questions
At 12:59 PM -0400 10/27/04, Herbert Goodfriend wrote: Unless someone proves me wrong, I'm almost positive that the Option-boot will *not* work on the Wallstreet. Another one of the quirks of venerable Wallstreet. Option-boot (aka Startup Manager) is available only on machines with Open Firmware. I believe that the first Power Book to be so equipped was the Pismo. Option-boot is, I think, only available on New World Macs (which would include the Lombard PB). It just checked and my PB3400c has OF 2.0.1. AFAIK OF is in all PCI based machines, ie PB3400, PM 7200, Performa / PM 5400 and later models. The Wallstreet has OF but is not New World so it doesn't do Option-boot. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: office X
On 27/10/04 18:40, Harry D. Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2004, at 4:21 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Because the solution is to defeat the mechanism by which any Office component can check the network for another copy running, which kind of mean defeating a copy protection. That wouldn't be very smart to post in a public list like this one and could get LowEndMac in trouble. Pretty much the same reason why posting links to illegitimate copies of Apple Service Manuals is a no-no as we don't want to have the Apple legal counsel on our backs... -Laurent. OK. Makes sense; thanks. And I guess it means that searching on the Microsoft site for this fix isn't likely to result in success . . . Probably not. But searching on the web in general for macintosh office piracy detection system should provide you with more info... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: office X
On Oct 27, 2004, at 6:17 PM, Harry D.Corsover wrote: Thanks, Timothy. You must be a lot better at Googling than I am. I've spent way more than 3 minutes and I'm still in the dark. Why can't the fix just be posted here? I thought that the purpose was to ask folks to do a little homework before they posted. I'm guessing that putting the error message into Google would have resulted in an answer. However, by taking what little information you gave from your post, I trusted that you were being truthful that you had a site license, you were using office x, and you received an error. That led me to put these keywords into Google: site:microsoft.com office x error site license The very first hit was this: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=312232product=ent2001 Reading that, I now assume that the error message you received was: This installation of Microsoft Office X exceeds the number of installations permitted by the license agreement putting that into Google also resulted in the same first link to Microsoft, even without putting around it or limiting to site:microsoft.com which would have given you an answer much more quickly than posting here. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: office X
On Oct 27, 2004, at 7:09 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 27/10/04 18:40, Harry D. Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2004, at 4:21 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Because the solution is to defeat the mechanism by which any Office component can check the network for another copy running, which kind of mean defeating a copy protection. OK. Makes sense; thanks. And I guess it means that searching on the Microsoft site for this fix isn't likely to result in success . . . Actually, if the original post was true (and I assumed it was, whereas Laurent apparently missed that part or didn't believe it) and there is a valid site license, this is a known issue with Office X. Probably not. But searching on the web in general for macintosh office piracy detection system should provide you with more info... That was actually useful info to have from a security point of view. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: office X
Thanks for all the help with this I will do some checking at the school Michael Sharon Vogt On Oct 27, 2004, at 6:23 PM, Timothy Luoma wrote: On Oct 27, 2004, at 7:09 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 27/10/04 18:40, Harry D. Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 27, 2004, at 4:21 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Because the solution is to defeat the mechanism by which any Office component can check the network for another copy running, which kind of mean defeating a copy protection. OK. Makes sense; thanks. And I guess it means that searching on the Microsoft site for this fix isn't likely to result in success . . . Actually, if the original post was true (and I assumed it was, whereas Laurent apparently missed that part or didn't believe it) and there is a valid site license, this is a known issue with Office X. Probably not. But searching on the web in general for macintosh office piracy detection system should provide you with more info... That was actually useful info to have from a security point of view. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: booting questions
The National Enquirer reports at 3:57 PM -0700 10/27/04, Clark Martin wrote: At 12:59 PM -0400 10/27/04, Herbert Goodfriend wrote: Unless someone proves me wrong, I'm almost positive that the Option-boot will *not* work on the Wallstreet. Another one of the quirks of venerable Wallstreet. Option-boot (aka Startup Manager) is available only on machines with Open Firmware. I believe that the first Power Book to be so equipped was the Pismo. Option-boot is, I think, only available on New World Macs (which would include the Lombard PB). It just checked and my PB3400c has OF 2.0.1. AFAIK OF is in all PCI based machines, ie PB3400, PM 7200, Performa / PM 5400 and later models. The Wallstreet has OF but is not New World so it doesn't do Option-boot. Hi Clark, Is this a completely different principle than the Startup Manager discussed here? http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106178 Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: booting questions
As that document indicates, the Startup Manager is only available on iMac/PowerMac G4/Pismo machines or later. On the Wallstreet, holding down 'option' at startup dumps you straight into OS 9, no questions asked. Well, for the most part it does. There's all sorts of PRAM/OF oddness that's going on behind the scenes, so things don't always work exactly the way they should. Cheers, Ben On 28 Oct 2004, at 13:18, Bob wrote: Hi Clark, Is this a completely different principle than the Startup Manager discussed here? http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106178 Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233
The National Enquirer reports at 8:36 AM -0500 10/27/04, Michael Clarke wrote: Thanks Ben and Bob, So if I were going to start from scratch and set up multiple partitions, would the install of OS X still be pretty straightforward? I mean, using XPostFacto to run the install, will it give me the option of choosing a partition, or does it only install OS X to the partition where XPostFacto resides? Others have answered the questions above, so I won't address them. Sorry for the ignorant questions, but I want to make sure I know what the heck I'm doing before I jump in. Don't feel that way. It is *much* better to know what lies ahead rather than jump in blindly and end up doing some something foolish (and potentially expensive), when all you have to do is ask. Also, where can I score a 20GB drive for $60 - $80? All the used ones I can find are over $120. As other posts have shown, it's just a matter of taking the time, making the effort and searching for the best prices. My price approximation was based partially on my purchase almost 18 months ago of a IBM/Hatachi Travelstar 40 GB GNX 5400RPM drive for my Wallstreet for $128. Prices have come down since then and you're needing a smaller drive. In addition to what's been posted, here's another drive in that price range at ZipZoomFly.com (which as I recall used to be GoogleGear): #101607 Toshiba MK2023GAS HDD2187 20GB ATA-5 2.5in 4200RPM Mobile Hard Drive $69.95 w/Free 2nd Day http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductList.jsp?ThirdCategoryCode=011006 One additional point that hasn't been mentioned, if it were me, I would pick up either an inexpensive external FireWire case (if you already have a FW PC card) and put your old 4 GB drive in it for partial backup or whatever -- and , yes an IDE drive will work in a FW case -- or get a PCMCIA case kit and do the same thing (although it wouldn't be FW with that setup) and use it from one of your PC slots. Good luck in your quest, Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Compatibility of OS10 with the Wallstreet II 233 (P.S.)
The National Enquirer reports at 8:36 AM -0500 10/27/04, Michael Clarke wrote: Thanks Ben and Bob, So if I were going to start from scratch and set up multiple partitions, would the install of OS X still be pretty straightforward? I mean, using XPostFacto to run the install, will it give me the option of choosing a partition, or does it only install OS X to the partition where XPostFacto resides? Just re-read your last post. And just so that there is no misunderstanding on your part, you *won't* need to use XPostFacto if you only install OS X Jaguar (up to 10.2.8). If you go on up to 10.3.x (Panther), then you'll need to use XPostFacto. You may have already known that, but just in case... Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
