Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Larry le Mac
Hi!
I have been doing some serious thinking and have realised
that maybe a PowerBook isn't what I really need, but a slightly
more powerfull, but semi-moveable computer, and when I
read on Apple's site that the iMac G5 is even sold as a moveable
machine, I figured that maybe I should consider this instead.
Well, I am pretty much decided, half the price, G5 instead
of G4, 1440 over 1280 is enough to sell it to me.
However, the PowerBook range was recently updated with
speeds and specs going up, and prices going down, but as
I haven't taken much notice of the iMac, I presume we're
still buying rev.1 machines...
Any rumours, or typical timing of an update ?
Laurence
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Re: Interchangeability of Power Adapters

2005-02-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/02/05 03:08, Valerie Vavrik at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My computer always runs very hot so maybe it is the computer.  I have
 it on an ergonomic stand that props it up and gives it air underneat.
 It is plugged in to a new APC Surge Protector w/Battery Backup so I
 don't think that is it.  If I just unplug the adapter from the computer
 and then plug it back in that does not work.  I actually have to unplug
 the outlet from the surge protector and then plug it back in to get the
 power flowing again.  I've learned to live with it, but if there was a
 fix I would go for it.  If I have to leave my computer for a little
 while it is frustrating to find it shut down sometimes when I come back
 to it.

Try another adapter and see if that helps.

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Re: battery life for current ALBook 15 inchers..

2005-02-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/22/05 8:58 PM, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What kinda time are you getting on your powerbook battery?
 Looks like mine is getting about 2.5 to three hours, is that right or
 should I be trying to get it replaced, as the book is  4 days
 old
 
If you can get close to 3 hours you are doing better than me. I get 2:15 to
2:30 - - - I use airport and it is always on. If I turn it off I get an
extra 10 minutes or so.

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Re: battery life for current ALBook 15 inchers..

2005-02-23 Thread Marcin Wichary
If you can get close to 3 hours you are doing better than me. I get 
2:15 to
2:30 - - - I use airport and it is always on. If I turn it off I get 
an
extra 10 minutes or so.
Similar situation here. The battery life has been somewhat 
disappointing, even though it's not such a big problem for me (my 
commute time is shorter :) ), and I don't know how it's like for other 
modern notebooks. Only once it was somewhat unpleasant, dying on me by 
the end of a DVD that was just over two hours.

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Network Questions

2005-02-23 Thread Tom Adams
Hello Everyone,  I will be staying in a home in Europe for several 
weeks, where there is a Mac G3 hooked to a broad band connection.  The 
owner says that he has no active proxy and it is set up to work only 
with his computer.  He believes that he has a static connection, but is 
not sure.   He is not opposed to trying a router, or a wireless router, 
to share the connection, but he doubts it will work with my PB G4.  I 
was also thinking that a switch and an Airport Express might work to 
keep his Mac connected, and allow my AP Extreme PowerBook to connect 
wirelessly.  It would seem to me that it would have to work, but surely 
some one out there can tell me with a bit more certainty.  Any 
suggestions?
Additionally,  I am using a Belkin 54g WiFi router in my office.  
Belkin claims that my 2.4 GHz is interfering with the wireless 
connection.  Are there wireless routers that are less susceptible to 
this type of interference?
Any help appreciated.
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Dennis B. Swaney
At 9:46 AM +0100 2/23/05, Larry le Mac wrote:

Any rumours, or typical timing of an update ?
Yes. Updates usually come out shortly AFTER you make a decision and 
buy a new computer. If you wait for the next edition, you'll never 
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Dennis B. Swaney [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes. Updates usually come out shortly AFTER you make a decision and buy a 
new computer.
Yes, it's happened twice to me with Powerbooks, and NOW is
the time to buy an AlBook, but looking at the iMac G5 it's been
fairly quiet...
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If you wait for the next edition, you'll never buy anything.
I agree to a point but with the iMac G5 nothing's happened for
a while, and there are the odd rumours out there...
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Re: Network Questions

2005-02-23 Thread Jan Musil
The only option for you is to get router that enables you to change MAC
address. Most European operators register one MAC address for a location and
do not allow any other machines to connect/share the connection. If your
friend has Ethernet cable connected to the computer there is some hope.

The way to do change his setup is as follows:

1. When his Mac G3 is up open Terminal and run the ifconfig command. Then
note the MAC address of his connection (it is the long hex number next to
the word 'ether' for his network card - the one that has IP address - e.g.
has IP address next to the word inet).

2. Setup the router / wireless hub - in the setup of the WS hub change the
MAC address for the external interface to the MAC address you recorded in
step 1. Do not plug the network to the hub just yet.

3. Take the network cable from his Mac and plug it into the router, connect
other PCs to the network and everything should go fine.

Not sure if Belkin supports the custom MAC address, but keep in mind that
the crazy Europeans (I'm one of them) have different power source than US
(e.g. 220V/50Hz). Good luck.

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Re: Network Questions

2005-02-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 23, 2005, at 6:17 AM, Tom Adams wrote:
Hello Everyone,  I will be staying in a home in Europe for several 
weeks, where there is a Mac G3 hooked to a broad band connection.  The 
owner says that he has no active proxy and it is set up to work only 
with his computer.  He believes that he has a static connection, but 
is not sure.   He is not opposed to trying a router, or a wireless 
router, to share the connection, but he doubts it will work with my PB 
G4.  I was also thinking that a switch and an Airport Express might 
work to keep his Mac connected, and allow my AP Extreme PowerBook to 
connect wirelessly.  It would seem to me that it would have to work, 
but surely some one out there can tell me with a bit more certainty.  
Any suggestions?
More than likely a router will work after resetting the broadband 
device (DSL or cable modem) and connecting the router.

Additionally,  I am using a Belkin 54g WiFi router in my office.  
Belkin claims that my 2.4 GHz is interfering with the wireless 
connection.  Are there wireless routers that are less susceptible to 
this type of interference?
By 'My 2.4 Ghz' I presume you mean your cordless phone. No. All 802.11G 
and B devices will have conflicts with 2.4 Ghz phones, since they all 
use the same frequencies.

The best suggestion is to get a 900 MHz or 5.8 Ghz phone.
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Brian Rule
It's hard to say, Apple did a good job over the last year of falling 
completely out of their upgrade cycle in several lines.  The iMac G5 
has remained the same since September when it was released.  Typically 
apple revamps each series every 6 months or so, so March-April would be 
a good guess, but you can't really say for sure since so many lines 
lately have fallen out of the normal routine.  I think the only line 
that is still on it's normal routine for revamping is the iBook, but, 
of course, that could change come this spring.
If you want one, keep an eye on www.macrumors.com and I wouldn't wait 
any longer than a month or month and a half if you absolutely need the 
most up to date version.
Brian

On Feb 23, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
Hi!
I have been doing some serious thinking and have realised
that maybe a PowerBook isn't what I really need, but a slightly
more powerfull, but semi-moveable computer, and when I
read on Apple's site that the iMac G5 is even sold as a moveable
machine, I figured that maybe I should consider this instead.
Well, I am pretty much decided, half the price, G5 instead
of G4, 1440 over 1280 is enough to sell it to me.
However, the PowerBook range was recently updated with
speeds and specs going up, and prices going down, but as
I haven't taken much notice of the iMac, I presume we're
still buying rev.1 machines...
Any rumours, or typical timing of an update ?
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Amber R.
Larry,
On 23-Feb-05, at 7:02 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
From: Dennis B. Swaney [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes. Updates usually come out shortly AFTER you make a decision and 
buy a new computer.
Yes, it's happened twice to me with Powerbooks, and NOW is
the time to buy an AlBook, but looking at the iMac G5 it's been
fairly quiet...
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If you wait for the next edition, you'll never buy anything.
I agree with Dennis,   If you keep waiting,  you won't end up with 
anything.   You will never get ahead by waiting for the next upgrade to 
come out.   There will always be newer and better technology just 
around the corner and inevitably,  soon after you buy your new system, 
another upgrade will be released.

What can you do about it ?  Nothing.  Just decide what you want - 
desktop or laptop - and go out and buy it so you can start enjoying it.

Good luck !
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Re: battery life for current ALBook 15 inchers..

2005-02-23 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga
On my iBook G4 I can get (bluetooth on, airport on and connetced to 
the home network) 3 hrs pretty easisly.

Never gone over 2 hrs with the Aluminium.
I guess the biggest difference is on the display.
Ben
If you can get close to 3 hours you are doing better than me. I get 2:15 to
2:30 - - - I use airport and it is always on. If I turn it off I get an
extra 10 minutes or so.
Similar situation here. The battery life has been somewhat 
disappointing, even though it's not such a big problem for me (my 
commute time is shorter :) ), and I don't know how it's like for 
other modern notebooks. Only once it was somewhat unpleasant, dying 
on me by the end of a DVD that was just over two hours.
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga
At 9:46 AM +0100 2/23/05, Larry le Mac wrote:

Any rumours, or typical timing of an update ?
Yes. Updates usually come out shortly AFTER you make a decision and 
buy a new computer. If you wait for the next edition, you'll never 
buy anything.
True, but not completely.
A friend of mine wanted to buy a 15 Aluminium. I told him to wait a 
couple of weeks: well he has now the chance to buy the 1.5 GHz for 
300 euros less from a local large computer store or the new 1.67 Ghz 
for 100 euros less.

So in this case 2 weeks meant 100 euros and a new machine o 300 euros 
and the same thing.

I have now to buy a replacement desktop for my G5 2 x 2: I am waiting 
for the new top of the line and then decide for a 2 x 2.5 for a 
better price or the new one.

It is a matter of fluctuation: or you buy a Mac immediately after it 
is introduced or at the end of its life: it is only a matter of 6 to 
8 months so my suggestion is to wait.

Regarding the iMac I would wait for the new stuff this coming summer, 
if you can wait.

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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Larry le Mac
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If you want one, keep an eye on www.macrumors.com and I wouldn't wait any 
longer than a month or month and a half if you absolutely need the most up 
to date version.
I don't have to have, it's that as I have decided to buy brand new
instead of buying and then selling to buy something else. If I buy
new I will lose if I sell, so therefore I will keep...
And as it's a private long term purchase I might as well buy the best
I can get, and if waiting a little longer gives me a slightly better spec.
machine, then I'm prepared for that, but how long...
I have sold all (!) my Macs bar a Sawtooth motherboard! I am even
setting up a PC tonight so my wife has Internet access...
A Mac 128K ain't too good for Internet...
I'm streamlining my computer inventory.  :o)
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Larry le Mac
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OT..OS 10.3.8 Program help needed

2005-02-23 Thread K
Greetings 'Listas,
Sorry for the interruption...Does anyone know of a program similar to 
the old PrintShop that will work in Panther?  I used to use PS heavily 
before moving to Panther and need a similar program for cards, 
calendars, banners etc.  I amrunning a Pismo 400 that has had Classic 
removed and I have no idea if it is possible to add Classic or OS 9 
w/out having to reformat the hd...
Regards and thanks for your indulgence in this matter..
Mike K

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Re: OT..OS 10.3.8 Program help needed

2005-02-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 23/02/05 12:28, K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Greetings 'Listas,
 Sorry for the interruption...Does anyone know of a program similar to
 the old PrintShop that will work in Panther?  I used to use PS heavily
 before moving to Panther and need a similar program for cards,
 calendars, banners etc.  I amrunning a Pismo 400 that has had Classic
 removed and I have no idea if it is possible to add Classic or OS 9
 w/out having to reformat the hd...
 Regards and thanks for your indulgence in this matter..
 Mike K

I think that the most recent version of PrintShop was ported to OS X by a
Russian company.

In any case, you can certainly reinstall OS 9 without formatting the hard
drive...

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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Amber R.
On 23-Feb-05, at 9:17 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
I don't have to have, it's that as I have decided to buy brand new
instead of buying and then selling to buy something else. If I buy
new I will lose if I sell, so therefore I will keep...
I will collapse in shock when you finally make a decision and buy 
something !  - Who knows - by then the G5 PB's may be out :-)

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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Dyna
	The $500 Mac Mini has upset the whole Mac pricing structure 
and the market will force a correction. As a result the eMac is 
probably extinct and the the iMac will have to be given a substantial 
upgrade and/or it's price cut to under $1000. Meanwhile, the PC 
makers have responded to the Mini by offering a PC with Windoze AND 
an LCD display for a bit under the Mini's price point. In the laptop 
market with Linux and Windoze running PC laptops below $500 there's 
no point in spending over $1000 for a laptop. The PowerBook's market 
is thusly limited to a small but loyal cadre of Apole devotees and 
the iBook will need further price drops to be competitive..

flame away...
Dyna
It's hard to say, Apple did a good job over the last year of falling 
completely out of their upgrade cycle in several lines.  The iMac G5 
has remained the same since September when it was released. 
Typically apple revamps each series every 6 months or so, so 
March-April would be a good guess, but you can't really say for sure 
since so many lines lately have fallen out of the normal routine.  I 
think the only line that is still on it's normal routine for 
revamping is the iBook, but, of course, that could change come this 
spring.
If you want one, keep an eye on www.macrumors.com and I wouldn't 
wait any longer than a month or month and a half if you absolutely 
need the most up to date version.
Brian

On Feb 23, 2005, at 2:46 AM, Larry le Mac wrote:
Hi!
I have been doing some serious thinking and have realised
that maybe a PowerBook isn't what I really need, but a slightly
more powerfull, but semi-moveable computer, and when I
read on Apple's site that the iMac G5 is even sold as a moveable
machine, I figured that maybe I should consider this instead.
Well, I am pretty much decided, half the price, G5 instead
of G4, 1440 over 1280 is enough to sell it to me.
However, the PowerBook range was recently updated with
speeds and specs going up, and prices going down, but as
I haven't taken much notice of the iMac, I presume we're
still buying rev.1 machines...
Any rumours, or typical timing of an update ?
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Re: OT..OS 10.3.8 Program help needed

2005-02-23 Thread Fabian Fang
On Feb 23, 2005, at 9:28 AM, K wrote:
Greetings 'Listas,
Sorry for the interruption...Does anyone know of a program similar to  
the old PrintShop that will work in Panther?  I used to use PS heavily  
before moving to Panther and need a similar program for cards,  
calendars, banners etc.  I amrunning a Pismo 400 that has had Classic  
removed and I have no idea if it is possible to add Classic or OS 9  
w/out having to reformat the hd...
Regards and thanks for your indulgence in this matter..
Mike K

Broderbund has a Mac OS X version of The Print Shop:
http://www.broderbund.com/jump.jsp? 
itemID=420mainPID=420itemType=PRODUCTpath=1%2C2%2C6%2C48iProductID=4 
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New Power Book and OS 9

2005-02-23 Thread Wally Hartley
Hello all--

Well, it' time to look into a new computer. I want to go whole hog but cost
is a limiting factor of course.

I am currently using a Revision B Grape iMac (333 MHz) running OS 9.2.2 with
a 120 GB Hard Drive. I have not made the jump to OS X.

I want to upgrade to a PowerBook (probably the 17 inch) and it comes with
Panther (OS 10.3.x) I believe. I still have a great many programs which I
use all the time that will not work in OS X -- mostly because they need to
be upgraded, but some do not offer anything beyond OS 9 anyway.

When OS X first came out there was a way to still run Classic applications
within OS X or still boot the computer into OS 9 for those applications
needing it. I'm not totally up to speed on how this worked but I will need
this capability until I can upgrade all my applications and even beyond for
those not offering any upgrade path.

My initial questions are:

What is the last (newest) PowerBook which offered the capability to still
run OS 9 applications?

Which operating system did it ship with?

Thanks for any help anyone can offer. I'm sure I will have more questions
but don't know what else to ask right now. I am on digest mode so it may
take a few hours to respond to any advise.

Thanks again,
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Kanga problem diagnosis

2005-02-23 Thread David Gardner
I recently inherited an original G3 (Kanga) PowerBook which the previous 
owner, a friend, said was non-functional. The price was right (free), 
and she said it might boot, but the unit has been in long-term storage, 
so the PRAM and battery are drained.

I got the system started with an external yo-yo, and got the good 
chimes. I hear disk activity and believe that the O/S is starting up, 
but I do not get a display to confirm this, even with the brightness 
cranked up full. I tried it in the dark and can see some barely visible 
initial flickering when the system is first starting, but then the 
display goes dark and never comes up.

Does anyone have an idea what I might be looking at here (problem- and 
expense-wise), and what I should/can check out for myself? I am pretty 
handy with tear-downs and minor repairs, but I don't want to invest a 
whole lot of time and money into making this system work again if it's 
going to take more than, say, buying a working, used Pismo off eBay. If 
it's something relatively minor, I'd like to fix it, though. Thanks in 
advance for any advice.


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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 23/02/05 12:48, Dyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The $500 Mac Mini has upset the whole Mac pricing structure
 and the market will force a correction. As a result the eMac is
 probably extinct and the the iMac will have to be given a substantial
 upgrade and/or it's price cut to under $1000. Meanwhile, the PC
 makers have responded to the Mini by offering a PC with Windoze AND
 an LCD display for a bit under the Mini's price point. In the laptop
 market with Linux and Windoze running PC laptops below $500 there's
 no point in spending over $1000 for a laptop. The PowerBook's market
 is thusly limited to a small but loyal cadre of Apole devotees and
 the iBook will need further price drops to be competitive..
 
 flame away...

I'm not going to flame you because I take your whole argumentation as your
own opinion. Time and again, when you compare Macintosh with similarly
equipped PeeCees, most of the time, the Peecees end up being far more
expensive than the Mac.

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Re: Kanga problem diagnosis

2005-02-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 23/02/05 13:38, David Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recently inherited an original G3 (Kanga) PowerBook which the previous
 owner, a friend, said was non-functional. The price was right (free),
 and she said it might boot, but the unit has been in long-term storage,
 so the PRAM and battery are drained.
 
 I got the system started with an external yo-yo, and got the good
 chimes. I hear disk activity and believe that the O/S is starting up,
 but I do not get a display to confirm this, even with the brightness
 cranked up full. I tried it in the dark and can see some barely visible
 initial flickering when the system is first starting, but then the
 display goes dark and never comes up.
 
 Does anyone have an idea what I might be looking at here (problem- and
 expense-wise), and what I should/can check out for myself? I am pretty
 handy with tear-downs and minor repairs, but I don't want to invest a
 whole lot of time and money into making this system work again if it's
 going to take more than, say, buying a working, used Pismo off eBay. If
 it's something relatively minor, I'd like to fix it, though. Thanks in
 advance for any advice.

Have you tried booting up from an external system CD or something? The OS
installation on the hard drive might be corrupted, although you should still
get something on the screen.

Have you tried to reset the PRAM?

If all of this fail, I guess you'll need another screen. I don't think
you're looking at something minor if it's a hardware problem. If the screen
flickers a bit but you don't see anything, then maybe the backlight of the
screen is burned up. You could try to use a bright light and, after turning
it on, try to move the light in some angle with the screen. You might be
able to see something if you light up the screen from the right angle. That
would probably confirm the backlight is dead.

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Re: OT..OS 10.3.8 Program help needed

2005-02-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 23, 2005, at 10:28 AM, K wrote:
Greetings 'Listas,
Sorry for the interruption...Does anyone know of a program similar to 
the old PrintShop that will work in Panther?
How about PrintShop?
http://www.mackiev.com/print_shop.html
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Re: Kanga problem diagnosis

2005-02-23 Thread David Gardner
Laurent Daudelin wrote:
That would probably confirm the backlight is dead.
 

Thanks, Laurent, for the diagnosis info. It is the backlight after all. 
It boots MacOS off the hard drive or CD just fine, and I see a desktop, 
but the display is faint. I don't mind spending $100 or so for a new 
backlight/LCD or whatever I need to get this working, since the 
PowerBook seems to be working fine otherwise. I just don't want to pour, 
say, $350 or more into it, since I could find a better older PowerBook 
for about that much. Does this sound reasonable or am I dreamin'? I just 
hate to see good hardware go to waste, even if it is a bit dated.

David
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Re: New Power Book and OS 9

2005-02-23 Thread Al Poulin
Wally Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am currently using a Revision B Grape iMac (333 MHz) running OS 
9.2.2 with
a 120 GB Hard Drive. I have not made the jump to OS X.

I want to upgrade to a PowerBook (probably the 17 inch) and it comes 
with
Panther (OS 10.3.x) I believe. I still have a great many programs 
which I
use all the time that will not work in OS X -- mostly because they 
need to
be upgraded, but some do not offer anything beyond OS 9 anyway.

When OS X first came out there was a way to still run Classic 
applications
within OS X or still boot the computer into OS 9 for those applications
needing it. I'm not totally up to speed on how this worked but I will 
need
this capability until I can upgrade all my applications and even 
beyond for
those not offering any upgrade path.

My initial questions are:
What is the last (newest) PowerBook which offered the capability to 
still
run OS 9 applications?
Answering your specific question, new PowerBooks still run Classic 
applications.  If you are happy with your applications under 9.2.2, 
those same applications will run in Classic mode with the PowerBook 
booted in OS X (now Panther 10.3.x).  You will have to install those 
applications on the new machine.  However, the new machines will not 
boot into OS 9.  To buy a Mac to boot into OS 9, you would have to find 
an older, used model.

Frankly though, I do not know of a good reason from the applications 
point of view, to insist of buying a Mac that can boot OS 9.  But a 
good reason might be buying used to save money.  Another good reason 
might be that your printer, scanner, and whatever else you have plugged 
in to your old iMac may not run with OS X.  You can check on that at 
the equipment vendors' web sites for your models to see if there are OS 
X drivers available for your equipment.  Also, bear in mind that OS X 
now includes many drivers for old printers that are no longer supported 
by their makers.  So the Apple list of drivers bears checking too.

Another angle on printers is that many sellers of Macintosh will throw 
a cheap inkjet printer into the deal for free.
Which operating system did it ship with?
All the latest dual boot machines probably included OS 9.2, which is 
what I received on my QuickSilver G4 made in 2001.  It came with OS X 
v10.0.4, I think, which was horrid.  Other folks can say whether the 
last dual boot machines came with 10.1 or 10.2.

Refer to:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86209
for Macs that start up only in OS X.  You can learn more by going to 
the web site of this list's sponsor,
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Look under Computer Profiles on the right side of the home page for 
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Re: Kanga problem diagnosis

2005-02-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 23/02/05 14:23, David Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
 That would probably confirm the backlight is dead.
  
 
 Thanks, Laurent, for the diagnosis info. It is the backlight after all.
 It boots MacOS off the hard drive or CD just fine, and I see a desktop,
 but the display is faint. I don't mind spending $100 or so for a new
 backlight/LCD or whatever I need to get this working, since the
 PowerBook seems to be working fine otherwise. I just don't want to pour,
 say, $350 or more into it, since I could find a better older PowerBook
 for about that much. Does this sound reasonable or am I dreamin'? I just
 hate to see good hardware go to waste, even if it is a bit dated.
 
 David
 

David,

I have no idea on how much the backlight might cost for a Kanga. Have you
checked eBay?

However, once you get it, it might be a little difficult to replace as you
will have to disassemble the screen and this is probably not for the faint
of the heart...

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PCs are crap (was Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Larry le Mac
From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm not going to flame you because I take your whole argumentation
as your own opinion. Time and again, when you compare Macintosh
with similarly equipped PeeCees, most of the time, the Peecees end
up being far more expensive than the Mac.
I started this topic as I am constantly swaying as to which new Mac to
buy and I am now carrying on helping to make this topic even more
off-topic...
I have just spent an our with my son on our PC, a 600MHz AMD with
32MB video card and fairly decent spec, and it pisses me off that is
so difficult just to get it to run, let alone run anything else than the 
OS...

There is a saying; the more I meet people the more I like my dog,
well, mine is the more I use PCs the more I love my Mac(s)...
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Re: Kanga problem diagnosis

2005-02-23 Thread Hector I Macedo
If you have a monitor handy, you might try plugging it and see if it 
lights up.

David Gardner wrote:
Does anyone have an idea what I might be looking at here (problem- and 
expense-wise), and what I should/can check out for myself? I am pretty 
handy with tear-downs and minor repairs, but I don't want to invest a 
whole lot of time and money into making this system work again if it's 
going to take more than, say, buying a working, used Pismo off eBay. If 
it's something relatively minor, I'd like to fix it, though. Thanks in 
advance for any advice.


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Re: Kanga problem diagnosis

2005-02-23 Thread Brian Sammon
 Thanks, Laurent, for the diagnosis info. It is the backlight after all. 
 It boots MacOS off the hard drive or CD just fine, and I see a desktop, 
 but the display is faint. I don't mind spending $100 or so for a new 
 backlight/LCD or whatever I need to get this working, since the 
 PowerBook seems to be working fine otherwise. I just don't want to pour, 
 say, $350 or more into it, since I could find a better older PowerBook 
 for about that much. Does this sound reasonable or am I dreamin'? I just 
 hate to see good hardware go to waste, even if it is a bit dated.

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backlight on a laptop at http://www.jkllamps.com/laptop.cfm



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Re: New Power Book and OS 9

2005-02-23 Thread - drive - drift - dream -
On 23-Feb-05, at 1:14 PM, Aaron Willems wrote:
The newest PowerBook can run classic. Classic is simply a way to run 
OS 9 on
top of ten. It treats OS 9 like an application, and runs OS 9 within 
OS X.
You could kind of look at like Virtual PC.  If your OS 9 apps can run 
in
classic, then your set. If you need the ability to actually boot into 
OS 9,
then you'll need a Titanium PowerBook from 2 years ago. The Titanium
PowerBook was the last PowerBook Apple made that had the ability to 
boot
into OS 9.
However, Classic support may *not* be enabled by default, it wasn't 
with my new iBook, I had to install it separately from the application 
restore DVD...

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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Ben Dyer
On 24 Feb 2005, at 04:48, Dyna wrote:
	The $500 Mac Mini has upset the whole Mac pricing structure and the 
market will force a correction. As a result the eMac is probably 
extinct and the the iMac will have to be given a substantial upgrade 
and/or it's price cut to under $1000. Meanwhile, the PC makers have 
responded to the Mini by offering a PC with Windoze AND an LCD display 
for a bit under the Mini's price point. In the laptop market with 
Linux and Windoze running PC laptops below $500 there's no point in 
spending over $1000 for a laptop. The PowerBook's market is thusly 
limited to a small but loyal cadre of Apole devotees and the iBook 
will need further price drops to be competitive..

flame away...
	Dyna
Really, your statement is about as accurate as saying In the auto 
market, with Korean and Malaysian cars selling for less than A$15,000, 
there's no point in paying more than A$30,000 for a car -- if there 
wasn't, Lexus, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, Porsche, Ferrari, and 
Lamborghini would be in severe trouble. So, instead of getting 
distracted by the ultra low-end, why don't we compare the price points 
Apple actually competes in?

For example, for A$2999 (same price as the entry-level 15 PB) would 
get me an Inspiron 6000, with a 2GHz Pentium M (similar to the 1.5GHz 
G4 -- a 1.25GHz G4 is much faster, in my experience, than a 1.5GHz 
Pentium M), same RAM as the PB, a smaller, slower hard drive, a 
significantly worse GPU (X300 versus 9700), and a similar optical 
drive. In terms of software bundles, you'd have to spend a few hundred 
on the Dell to get it comparable to the PowerBook. And then you'd have 
to pay A$99 for delivery on the Dell, compared with free shipping on 
the PowerBook. If that's not enough, the Dell is also incredibly ugly, 
and over half an inch thicker (and doesn't have Bluetooth, doesn't have 
FireWire 800, probably doesn't have DVI out, is unlikely to have 
gigabit Ethernet, etc.).

Low-end PC laptops (the ones below US$500) are invariably based on the 
Pentium 4 processor, which generally means no integrated wireless, and 
always means appalling battery life, chunky appearance, and hefty 
weight. Let's see what the Dell catalogue offers --

A$1699 (plus $99 shipping, so really A$1800) gets the Inspiron 1150 
(Awesome Value).
Pentium 4, 2.8GHz
XP Home Edition
256MB DDR RAM (shared with the graphics card)
30GB hard disk
Integrated Graphics (the desktop version is laughable enough, imagine 
it on a laptop!)
DVD burner
15 1024x768 display
and a free leather carry case...

For A$200 less, you could get the 12 iBook:
1.2GHz G4 (admittedly somewhat slower than the Pentium 4)
OS X (equivalent to XP Professional -- that's a $100 upgrade for the 
Dell)
256MB RAM (NOT shared with graphics)
30GB hard disk
Radeon 9200 32MB (slow, but vastly, vastly better than integrated 
graphics)
Combo drive
and a 12 1024x768 display

The iBook also comes with wireless, a much better battery life, and 
much, much smaller dimensions (the Dell is more than half an inch 
thicker).

Cheers,
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Re: Interchangeability of Power Adapters

2005-02-23 Thread Romain Kang
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 10:11:35PM -0500, bobgir2004 wrote:
 I have a Dual-USB, 500MHz G3 12 iBook, with the yo-yo power adapter.
 
 Wife has a G4 iBook, 14, 1.2GHz with the small, white, square brick power
 adapter.
 
 When we travel, we prefer to take the smaller G3 iBook.

You should be able to find the power rating somewhere on the yoyo
adapter, though my memory is that the yoyo is rated 45 watts.  (FWIW,
my 1.5 GHz 12 PB came with a 45 W white brick).  So the 65 W brick
from the 14 is well within its comfort zone running the smaller
machine.

On the other hand, trying to run the 14 with the old yoyo is
probably a bad idea -- you may be trying to eat power faster that
the yoyo can safely pull it from the mains.  If the yoyo limits its
output for safety, its voltage will sag, which could lead to the
run it or charge it dilemna (assuming it runs).  If the yoyo
valiantly goes ahead and tries to supply the full voltage, it can
overheat, leading to any number of bad outcomes...

Romain

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Re: battery life for current ALBook 15 inchers..

2005-02-23 Thread Frank P. Eigler
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Beniamino Cenci Goga wrote:

 On my iBook G4 I can get (bluetooth on, airport on and connetced to
 the home network) 3 hrs pretty easisly.

 Never gone over 2 hrs with the Aluminium.

 I guess the biggest difference is on the display.

I'd think so. On my TiBk 867 I just now went from 0:54 to 1:36 remaining
by dimming the display down 4 'notches'.
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Re: Kanga problem diagnosis

2005-02-23 Thread David Gardner
Hector I Macedo wrote:
If you have a monitor handy, you might try plugging it and see if it 
lights up.
Thanks for the tip, Hector. With the external monitor, the PowerBook 
works great. I spent about an hour on it to make sure it's definitely 
not the power or logic board, or hard drive. Back on the LCD after that, 
I got the same dark screen, but this time also a lot of crazy-wavy lines 
rather than a desktop, so it might be the inverter as well as the 
backlights. Does this sound correct? I think it's probably a good idea 
to replace the whole LCD unit. Thank you, everyone, for your tips and hints.

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Re: Kanga problem diagnosis

2005-02-23 Thread David Gardner
Laurent Daudelin wrote:
However, once you get it, it might be a little difficult to replace as 
you will have to disassemble the screen and this is probably not for 
the faint of the heart...
Thanks, Laurent. I did think about dissembling the LCD but after looking 
at the instructions, figured it was more trouble than it was worth. I 
found a source for a whole replacement LCD, so I think I'll go that way.


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Re: Kanga problem diagnosis

2005-02-23 Thread Tom and Lisa P
  Thanks, Laurent, for the diagnosis info. It is the backlight after all.
 It boots MacOS off the hard drive or CD just fine, and I see a desktop,
 but the display is faint. I don't mind spending $100 or so for a new
 backlight/LCD or whatever I need to get this working, since the
 PowerBook seems to be working fine otherwise. I just don't want to pour,
 say, $350 or more into it, since I could find a better older PowerBook
 for about that much. Does this sound reasonable or am I dreamin'? I just
 hate to see good hardware go to waste, even if it is a bit dated.
If you're comfortable doing your own repairs, there's a guide to replacing 
the
backlight on a laptop at http://www.jkllamps.com/laptop.cfm
Its a lot easier to buy a whole 3400/3500 screen on Ebay and swap that out.
Mad Dog
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Steve Fuller
Dell:
Integrated Graphics (the desktop version is laughable enough, imagine 
it on a laptop!)
Apple:
Radeon 9200 32MB (slow, but vastly, vastly better than integrated 
graphics)
TECHNICALLY, they're both integrated. It's just that one is using a 
chipset built by a company that does nothing but design graphics chips, 
where the other one has one that's designing it's graphics chipsets as 
a way to sell more processors and motherboards. :)

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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Ben Dyer
On 24 Feb 2005, at 12:19, Steve Fuller wrote:
Dell:
Integrated Graphics (the desktop version is laughable enough, imagine 
it on a laptop!)
Apple:
Radeon 9200 32MB (slow, but vastly, vastly better than integrated 
graphics)
TECHNICALLY, they're both integrated. It's just that one is using a 
chipset built by a company that does nothing but design graphics 
chips, where the other one has one that's designing it's graphics 
chipsets as a way to sell more processors and motherboards. :)

Steve
Even more technically, they're actually not -- integrated graphics 
refers to a GPU built into the chipset used in the machine (often, it's 
in the northbridge), while the GPUs used in Macs are essentially the 
same as those used in add-in graphics cards, operating via an AGP bus. 
So, you have the Radeon 9200, which supports AGP and PCI interfaces, 
and the Radeon 9100, which is the equivalent integrated graphics 
processor. The fact that the 9200 is soldered onto the motherboard in 
the case of the iBooks doesn't make it integrated.

Cheers,
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Re: OT..OS 10.3.8 Program help needed

2005-02-23 Thread John McGibney
 Greetings 'Listas,
 Sorry for the interruption...Does anyone know of a program similar to
 the old PrintShop that will work in Panther?  I used to use PS heavily
 before moving to Panther and need a similar program for cards,
 calendars, banners etc.  I amrunning a Pismo 400 that has had Classic
 removed and I have no idea if it is possible to add Classic or OS 9
 w/out having to reformat the hd...
 Regards and thanks for your indulgence in this matter..
 Mike K

There is an X version of PrintShop Deluxe. There is also another similar App
but I can't think of its name right now.

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Re: PCs are ??? (was Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Brian Stewart

There is a saying; the more I meet people the more I like my dog,
well, mine is the more I use PCs the more I love my Mac(s)...
In my world money is an OBJECT!
I run a couple of macs at a sever budget. PeeCees at the same price I 
pay for my macs  would be serious crap.

I just went out an picked up a 12 867 used PowerBook. WOW... The 
overall speed and feel is a little better then my G4-500 for a price 
just less than a new 12 ibook.

The battery is new and the aluminum case needs a little wipe to look 
like new. This thing is PERFECT! It is just too sexy...
My apple dealer did screw me for a $30 CND VGA video adapter. I clearly 
said, I want the older powerbook for the dual monitor capability over 
a new iBook. He said yes, it comes with all the required video 
adapters. Now he is denying the conversation ever happened and he wants 
me to order the adapter...

With this in mind, I still prefer the Powerbook 12 over my 15 P-3 1.2 
Gig Dell Laptop. Hands Down... this thing runs so much nicer.

Quick Question... Why cripple the CPU cache on the laptops? My old G4 
has a 1MB cache and this thing has only 256K

The faster bus speed and clock speed are crippled with such a small 
cache?

Go for a powerbook!!!

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Okidata Okipage 8z OSX driver

2005-02-23 Thread Orlando Mac Geek
Has anyone out there been able to find an OS X driver for the Okidata
Okipage 8Z laser printer?  I loved this little unit but all I can find
are Windows drivers.  Okidata was zero help, they said since the
printer was discontinued before OS X 10.2 really became popular so
they never made a driver and are not planning to.

On that note just one point.  Does everyone agree that if a company
sells a printer that claims to work on both Mac and PC that they
should be olbligated to continue develolpment of the driver on both
platforms.  I was disgusted by Okidata's absolute lack of concern for
their customers.  I suppose if they had stopped development of the
Windows drivers then I would not have much to complain about, but they
have nice fresh XP drivers only a few months old.

Sorry for the rant
Orlando Mac Geek

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Re: Okidata Okipage 8z OSX driver

2005-02-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/02/05 11:26, Orlando Mac Geek at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone out there been able to find an OS X driver for the Okidata
 Okipage 8Z laser printer?  I loved this little unit but all I can find
 are Windows drivers.  Okidata was zero help, they said since the
 printer was discontinued before OS X 10.2 really became popular so
 they never made a driver and are not planning to.
 
 On that note just one point.  Does everyone agree that if a company
 sells a printer that claims to work on both Mac and PC that they
 should be olbligated to continue develolpment of the driver on both
 platforms.  I was disgusted by Okidata's absolute lack of concern for
 their customers.  I suppose if they had stopped development of the
 Windows drivers then I would not have much to complain about, but they
 have nice fresh XP drivers only a few months old.
 
 Sorry for the rant
 Orlando Mac Geek

What kind of printer is this?

-Laurent.
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Re: PCs are ??? (was Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Ben Dyer
On 24 Feb 2005, at 14:29, Brian Stewart wrote:
Quick Question... Why cripple the CPU cache on the laptops? My old 
G4 has a 1MB cache and this thing has only 256K

The faster bus speed and clock speed are crippled with such a small 
cache?

Go for a powerbook!!!
IIRC the older G4's cache ran at half processor speed, whereas the new 
G4 has its cache integrated into the processor, and runs it at full 
speed. From the benchmarks I've seen, it's not a huge performance hit.

Cheers,
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Re: PCs are ??? (was Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Andrew F.
My new 1.5GHz 12 feels awfully fast to me, regardless of cache size.  Much
faster than the 2.2GHz Pentium 4 desktop I am stuck using at work.

Andrew


On 2/23/05 8:12 PM, Ben Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 24 Feb 2005, at 14:29, Brian Stewart wrote:
 
 Quick Question... Why cripple the CPU cache on the laptops? My old
 G4 has a 1MB cache and this thing has only 256K
 
 The faster bus speed and clock speed are crippled with such a small
 cache?
 
 Go for a powerbook!!!
 
 IIRC the older G4's cache ran at half processor speed, whereas the new
 G4 has its cache integrated into the processor, and runs it at full
 speed. From the benchmarks I've seen, it's not a huge performance hit.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben
 



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Re: PCs are crap (was Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Chris H .
On Feb 23, 2005, at 16:10, G-Books wrote:
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From: Larry le Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PCs are crap (was Not a PowerBook after all...?
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 21:13:39 +0100
I have just spent an our with my son on our PC, a 600MHz AMD with
32MB video card and fairly decent spec, and it pisses me off that is
so difficult just to get it to run, let alone run anything else than 
the
OS...
Does it have any RAM? My GF's 633 Celeron was all but unusable with the 
128 MB it came with, kicking it up to 256 made it almost usable, 384 MB 
made it somewhat stable, upgrading to XP made it almost tolerable. But 
it's still no Mac, I only did it so she could work from home where the 
requirements were PC only.

There is a saying; the more I meet people the more I like my dog,
well, mine is the more I use PCs the more I love my Mac(s)...
Larry
Yep, I wouldn't part with my dawg or my Macs for nuttin honey.
Chris
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Re: Not a PowerBook after all...?

2005-02-23 Thread Dyna
. Time and again, when you compare Macintosh with similarly
equipped PeeCees, most of the time, the Peecees end up being far more
expensive than the Mac.
-Laurent.
	Perhaps I should clarify that I'm largely comparing hardware 
here- I have refused gifts of bootleg Windoze with no regrets! 
Looking Mac and PC hardware these days one finds that a lot of the 
parts (hard drives, optical drives, memory, etc.) are the same. The 
Power PC is clearly a more powerful and efficent processor, but the 
PC processor will none the less handle most people's computing tasks 
capably. As for build quality, many Macs are now built by the same 
subcontractors that make PCs so there is no Mac advantage.

	In software Macs are clearly far superior to Micro$oft's 
attempts, but Linux is reasonably user friendly and will meet most 
peoples needs. Given the bugs in OSX, I sometimes wonder why I pay 
good money for upgrades when I could be having just as much fun 
tearing my hair out at 3 am trying to make it work running Linux for 
free...

	So how much cost premium is a Mac worth? For the user on a 
tight budget with basic needs an old PC running Linux will do the job 
for less than the cost of a Mac. For me I figure a 20% premium over 
PCs is the most I'll pay extra for a Mac. For some, a Mac is a status 
symbol like a luxury car and they will pay any amount to obtain one...

Dyna
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