Re: Clamshell iBook failing to wake from sleep

[Harry Corsover]

On Nov 10, 2005, at 2:14 PM, Ken wrote:


Well, closing the "lid" on a clamshell forces it to sleep
by a magnetic switch in the lid/topcase. It can't operate
with the lid closed.

It just won't sleep if left to sit open.


Thanks for the clarification, Ken.

However, I still don't see how this solves the poster's problem. His  
son regularly closes the iBook and puts it to sleep that way some of  
the time. Are you suggesting that he not put it to sleep at all?


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Re: Clamshell iBook failing to wake from sleep

[Ken]

My Reply follows quote. On 10/11/2005 12:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

>On Nov 10, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Robert Alcorn wrote:
>
>> Turn off the sleep mode (energy saver) in system preferences (OSX).  
>> You do not
>> need it.
>
>
>First, he's using OS 9.2.2.
>
>Secondly, what do you mean "You do not need it?"
>
>If one is used to sleep mode and closes the lid on a laptop with  
>sleep mode turned off, what happens? If the iBook stays on, there  
>could be two problems: overheating, and battery drain if it's not  
>plugged in.
>
>Regards,
>
>Harry Corsover
-
Well, closing the "lid" on a clamshell forces it to sleep
by a magnetic switch in the lid/topcase. It can't operate
with the lid closed.

It just won't sleep if left to sit open.

Ken

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Re: Clamshell iBook failing to wake from sleep

[Harry Corsover]

On Nov 10, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Robert Alcorn wrote:

Turn off the sleep mode (energy saver) in system preferences (OSX).  
You do not

need it.



First, he's using OS 9.2.2.

Secondly, what do you mean "You do not need it?"

If one is used to sleep mode and closes the lid on a laptop with  
sleep mode turned off, what happens? If the iBook stays on, there  
could be two problems: overheating, and battery drain if it's not  
plugged in.


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Re: Clamshell iBook failing to wake from sleep

[Robert Alcorn]

Turn off the sleep mode (energy saver) in system preferences (OSX). You 
do not

need it.
On Nov 10, 2005, at 1:01 PM, Robert Eye wrote:


My son's clamshell iBook has developed the annoying
problem of (occasionally) not being able to wake from
sleep.

It is an intermittent problem, probably occurring
about 1/3 to 1/2 the time. He puts the iBook to sleep
(either by using the menu command or just closing the
lid) and it fails to wake the video. You can hear the
HD come up but the screen stays black. Holding down
the power button forces a restart and the iBook boots
normally. He doesn't get the more common problem (from
what I've found on a web search) of the gray screen or
flashing ? on restart.

Here are the machine particulars:

Graphite 366 MHz iBook (no FW)
96 MB RAM
VM off
Mac OS 9.2.2
Airport 2.0.4, turned on
Third-Party Apps he uses:
Claris Works 6.2.8
Netscape 7.0.2

I found several articles by Charles Moore on the
"Sleep of Death" issue on PBs in general, and a few
discussion forums (lots of discussion, but not much in
the way of solutions), but not much else.

Thanks for any light you can shed on this.


Regards,

Bob Eye
Dallas, TX

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Clamshell iBook failing to wake from sleep

[Robert Eye]

My son's clamshell iBook has developed the annoying
problem of (occasionally) not being able to wake from
sleep.

It is an intermittent problem, probably occurring
about 1/3 to 1/2 the time. He puts the iBook to sleep
(either by using the menu command or just closing the
lid) and it fails to wake the video. You can hear the
HD come up but the screen stays black. Holding down
the power button forces a restart and the iBook boots
normally. He doesn't get the more common problem (from
what I've found on a web search) of the gray screen or
flashing ? on restart.

Here are the machine particulars:

Graphite 366 MHz iBook (no FW)
96 MB RAM
VM off
Mac OS 9.2.2
Airport 2.0.4, turned on
Third-Party Apps he uses:
Claris Works 6.2.8
Netscape 7.0.2

I found several articles by Charles Moore on the
"Sleep of Death" issue on PBs in general, and a few
discussion forums (lots of discussion, but not much in
the way of solutions), but not much else.

Thanks for any light you can shed on this.


Regards,

Bob Eye
Dallas, TX

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Re: CDRW in clamshell iBook - hints and tips, please

[PeterH5322]

>Needless to say, I like the improved functionality [ the UJDA-330 ] could 
provide.

Practically all of Panasonic's drives have been discontinued.

Particularly the UJDAs, but also some UJs.

The most easily obtainable Panasonic drive is the UJ-845-B.

This is a slot-loader, only, and takes +/- media; CD and DVD; ROM, R and 
R/W; and also two-layer writing and rewriting (recording and re-recording 
for + media).

Boots fine in my Lombard and Pismo under 9.2.2 and 10.3.9.

But ... it is unsupported by X's desktop burner, unless PatchBurn has 
been run.

Now, the Pioneer DVR-K05 is an even better choice as it is supported for 
all "i" products on 10.4 and later, without PatchBurn, and is supported 
on 10.3, with PatchBurn.

Same media capability as the UJ-845-B, only faster.

I think I paid $129 for the UJ-845-B, and $105 for the DVR-K05.

I bought the DVR-K05 mainly to see if the drawer bezel of the Lombard and 
Pismo could be adapted to it, but it is a NO-GO.

Oh, I've tried these drives in the MCE optical media bay for the 
Wallstreet, and these work fine there, too.

Now, these are 12.7mm drives as the media bays for all the above-named 
machines expect 12.7mm drives.

There are 9.5mm versions available for some drives.


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CDRW in clamshell iBook - hints and tips, please

[Robert Eye]

I recently bought an iBook SE off of eBay that turned
out to have a dead CDROM drive. I was planning on
replacing it with another CDROM drive, until I checked
the drive compatibility feedback at the Accelerate
Your Mac web site. A number of people have
successfully installed a UJDA330 CDRW drive into their
colored iBooks. Needless to say, I like the improved
functionality this could provide.

The only issue that everyone mentioned was having to
do structural surgery on the colored cover plate to
get it to fit the new drive. The issue that not
everyone seemed to agree on was whether or not the
drive was bootable in either/both MacOS 9 or X (either
holding down the C key or
control-option-shift-delete).

I've looked over the instructions at pbfixit.com and
the task doesn't look too daunting. I just need to get
the kids out of the house for a few hours. :-)

So, has anyone on the list done this upgrade? What
insight can you share from your experiences
(especially on the cover plate surgery)?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Bob Eye
Dallas, TX

P.S. I know about the CD-RW that Wegener Media sells,
but I'm not interested for that price - plus, it
doesn't use the iBook's cover plate.


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My previous message re: Clamshell iBook battery problems

[Wade Dunham]

Apologies to the list for my previous message. It was intended to be a
private reply. That was the first time I used my G-mail account to
reply to a message, and I didn't notice that it was going to the list.
It won't happen again!

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Re: Clamshell iBook battery problems

[Wade Dunham]

Shawn:

My work number is 889-1115, and my cell phone is 614-506-8752. Thanks.

Wade


On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:26:34 -0500, Shawn Harley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wade,
> 
> Call me @ 538-0213 in a few minutes. I live near the MicroCenter on
> Bethel Rd.
> 
> Shawn
> 
> 
> On Jan 4, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Wade Dunham wrote:
> 
> > Anyone in the Central Ohio area have a clamshell iBook that I could
> > test my batteries in, or let me try your battery in mine? I have two
> > batteries, and despite trying everything I can find to resurrect them,
> > they seem to be dead. I want to confirm that I have two bad batteries,
> > and not a bad laptop.
> >
> > I have been unable to get the batteries to respond, despite trying
> > several different suggestions, including:
> >
> > From the Apple website: "Resetting PowerBook and iBook Power
> > Management Unit (PMU)". This had no apparent effect on the batteries.
> >
> > I installed SlimBatteryMonitor. It tells me that the battery is
> > charging, but stays at 0%. After a few minutes, it says "Power source
> > not present".
> >
> > I also followed the suggestions at:
> >
> > http://www.macintouch.com/laptopbatt.html
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
> >
> > Wade
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Re: Clamshell iBook battery problems

[Shawn Harley]

Wade,
Call me @ 538-0213 in a few minutes. I live near the MicroCenter on 
Bethel Rd.

Shawn
On Jan 4, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Wade Dunham wrote:
Anyone in the Central Ohio area have a clamshell iBook that I could
test my batteries in, or let me try your battery in mine? I have two
batteries, and despite trying everything I can find to resurrect them,
they seem to be dead. I want to confirm that I have two bad batteries,
and not a bad laptop.
I have been unable to get the batteries to respond, despite trying
several different suggestions, including:
From the Apple website: "Resetting PowerBook and iBook Power
Management Unit (PMU)". This had no apparent effect on the batteries.
I installed SlimBatteryMonitor. It tells me that the battery is
charging, but stays at 0%. After a few minutes, it says "Power source
not present".
I also followed the suggestions at:
http://www.macintouch.com/laptopbatt.html
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Wade
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Clamshell iBook battery problems

[Wade Dunham]

Anyone in the Central Ohio area have a clamshell iBook that I could
test my batteries in, or let me try your battery in mine? I have two
batteries, and despite trying everything I can find to resurrect them,
they seem to be dead. I want to confirm that I have two bad batteries,
and not a bad laptop.

I have been unable to get the batteries to respond, despite trying
several different suggestions, including:

>From the Apple website: "Resetting PowerBook and iBook Power
Management Unit (PMU)". This had no apparent effect on the batteries.

I installed SlimBatteryMonitor. It tells me that the battery is
charging, but stays at 0%. After a few minutes, it says "Power source
not present".

I also followed the suggestions at:

http://www.macintouch.com/laptopbatt.html

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Wade

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Re: CDRW for clamshell iBook

[Dan K]

Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So pretty much anything on this page should work?  
>Drives_W0QQfromZR13QQlopgZ2QQsacategoryZ38116QQsocmdZListingItemList>

Yep. Remember it's a PITA to replace the optical, so I'd suggest going 
for as fast a drive as possible. Since the cost difference between an 8x 
writer and a 24x writer can be only $10 or $20, it makes little sense to 
bother with a slower unit. Make sure the drive comes with a faceplate, 
some don't and it's virtually impossible to source one separately.

One other thing. On a clamshell, the drive must set as bus Master to be 
bootable using the "C" startup key. Many OEM drives by default are set to 
Slave. It's not difficult to mod a drive to enable bus Master, but it's 
something to keep in mind.

dan k

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Re: CDRW for clamshell iBook

[Bruce Johnson]

On Thursday, December 23, 2004, at 09:09 PM, Dan K wrote:
Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
What mechanisms (if any) will work to put a CDRW into an original
tangerine iBook?
This will be with OS X 10.3.
As usual xlr8yourmac.com is the place for specific details.
Duh! I should have thought of that!
Most any slim optical will work, just don't expect to able to re-use  
the
original faceplate. I've got a Matshita UJDA330 CD/RW installed in our
blueberry clamshell. It's got the generic faceplate and doesn't look
especially spiffy but works just fine.
So pretty much anything on this page should work?  


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Re: CDRW for clamshell iBook

[Dan K]

Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
>What mechanisms (if any) will work to put a CDRW into an original 
>tangerine iBook?
>
>This will be with OS X 10.3.
As usual xlr8yourmac.com is the place for specific details.

Most any slim optical will work, just don't expect to able to re-use the 
original faceplate. I've got a Matshita UJDA330 CD/RW installed in our 
blueberry clamshell. It's got the generic faceplate and doesn't look 
especially spiffy but works just fine.

Not especially relevant, but here's a couple of my pages that touch on 
some of the issues involved:



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What mechanisms (if any) will work to put a CDRW into an original 
tangerine iBook?

This will be with OS X 10.3.
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Re: Need LCD for Clamshell iBook

[George Mogiljansky]

A while ago, I was looking for the 'generic' WS LCD.
It is also a Samsung. But the power and data cables
might not match the Apple requirements. I paid almost
the same price for a used WS screen on eBay.
Best
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>
> > Clamshell iBook's original panel is a Samsung
> LT121SU-123. The 3400/Kanga
> >  LCDs are (sadly) completely incompatible.
> > 
> >  However, this worked for me:
> >
>

>
> Thank alot! I just knew there had to be a generic
> version to look for...
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Need LCD for Clamshell iBook

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In a message dated 8/25/2004 7:12:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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> Clamshell iBook's original panel is a Samsung LT121SU-123. The 3400/Kanga 
>  LCDs are (sadly) completely incompatible.
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>  However, this worked for me:
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Thank alot! I just knew there had to be a generic version to look for...

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Re: Need LCD for Clamshell iBook

[Dan K]

Craig W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] asks:
>In my search for a replacement Clamshell iBook LCD, I was wondering if any 
>other 12.1" LCD screen would work in the iBook? The 3400/Kanga and the 
>Wallstreets use a 12.1 LCD TFT screen...
Clamshell iBook's original panel is a Samsung LT121SU-123. The 3400/Kanga 
LCDs are (sadly) completely incompatible.

However, this worked for me:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3488983048>

>From the sellers' description:
"LCD panel / screen, manufactured by Samsung, part number: LT121SU-121. 
Suitable for a Dell Latitude CPi series notebook computer."

The Dell panel had an EMI shield attached, but it just unscrewed. 
Everything else was identical to the iBook's panel, hooked it up and it's 
working perfectly.

I suggest an eBay title-and-description search for this string, exclude 
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[lt121su*]

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Re: Need LCD for Clamshell iBook

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on 25/08/04 00:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi gang;
> 
> In my search for a replacement Clamshell iBook LCD, I was wondering if any
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> Wallstreets use a 12.1 LCD TFT screen...

In my experience so far they are not the same, try to match the LCD screen
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Need LCD for Clamshell iBook

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Hi gang;

In my search for a replacement Clamshell iBook LCD, I was wondering if any 
other 12.1" LCD screen would work in the iBook? The 3400/Kanga and the 
Wallstreets use a 12.1 LCD TFT screen...

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Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?

[Jeff Hubatka]

Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:57:52 -0400
From: Rajah James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?
So which CDRW is recommended for a clamshell? I've got a
Matshita/Panasonic UJ-815B in my Pismo now, and it works great. Thanks
for any help.
Rajah
Pretty much any CDRW will work, some will require modifying the support 
files in OS9 and/or OSX. The OS9 files can be changed with bbedit, OSX 
can be changed with the fine utility patchburn or patchburn II for 
Panther. The real issue is making the faceplate fit.
If the computer just sits on your desk, maybe it's not a big deal to 
have the drive exposed, I certainly wouldn't travel with it that way 
though. I did have one installed in a Lombard like that for a few 
months, although I eventually replaced it with the stock CD when I sold 
the computer.

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Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?

[Rajah James]

Jeff Hubatka wrote:
On Jul 13, 2004, at 8:53 AM, G-Books wrote:
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:27:35 +0100
Subject: Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?
From: Malcolm Cornelius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Of course if you do  that you may as well replace the CD with a CDRW 
while
you're in there.
Do the bezels fit ?

I can only offer a definite maybe. There is a better chance of a 
Matshita fitting, although that's not always the case. I put a Samsung 
into my icebook, and the bezel sort of fit - I had to shave a little 
off the top and move the manual eject button. Same story with 
Pismo/Lombard drives, I have a Matshita CDRW  sitting around here that 
I can't rework the bezels to fit properly.

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So which CDRW is recommended for a clamshell? I've got a 
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for any help.

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Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?

[Jeff Hubatka]

On Jul 13, 2004, at 8:53 AM, G-Books wrote:
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:27:35 +0100
Subject: Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?
From: Malcolm Cornelius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Of course if you do  that you may as well replace the CD with a CDRW 
while
you're in there.
Do the bezels fit ?
I can only offer a definite maybe. There is a better chance of a 
Matshita fitting, although that's not always the case. I put a Samsung 
into my icebook, and the bezel sort of fit - I had to shave a little 
off the top and move the manual eject button. Same story with 
Pismo/Lombard drives, I have a Matshita CDRW  sitting around here that 
I can't rework the bezels to fit properly.

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Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?

[Malcolm Cornelius]

> It's easy to install an Airport card, extremely difficult to install a
> hard drive.

Not that bad - not as easy as the Powerbooks, but certainly not a patch on
the iceBooks.

> Of course if you do  that you may as well replace the CD with a CDRW while
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Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?

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On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 7:53 am -0700, Jeff Hubatka wrote:

>You may be able to install OSX via an external USB, since the Blueberry 
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Ah. In which case disregard my earlier suggestion :(

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Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?

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From: Rajah James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 22:59:49 -0400
The title says it all. I've been given a Blueberry clamshell ibook with
a broken cd drive, which also starts up with the flashing folder deal.
I quit running OS 9 some time ago, and I'd like to load OS X as it says
that this is supported on the spec page. I plan on installing Jaguar.
What is the best way to go about doing this?
The way that I've thought of is to install a spare 9 gig laptop drive
into my Pismo, install OS X on it, then take it out of the Pismo and
put it  into the ibook. This seems like a big hassle, so there's got to
be an easier way, right? Any suggestions welcome.
Thanks.
PS - While I'm in there replacing the hard drive, how hard is it to
install an airport card? Any experiences with performance?
It's easy to install an Airport card, extremely difficult to install a 
hard drive. The Pismo swap method will work, but be prepared to spend 
hours getting to the original iBook hard drive. Of course if you do 
that you may as well replace the CD with a CDRW while you're in there. 
You may be able to install OSX via an external USB, since the Blueberry 
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Re: Clamshell ibook, dead cd drive: how to install os X?

[Tim Hodgson]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 10:59 pm -0400, Rajah James wrote:

>The title says it all. I've been given a Blueberry clamshell ibook with 
>a broken cd drive, which also starts up with the flashing folder deal. 
>I quit running OS 9 some time ago, and I'd like to load OS X as it says 
>that this is supported on the spec page. I plan on installing Jaguar. 
>What is the best way to go about doing this?

>The way that I've thought of is to install a spare 9 gig laptop drive 
>into my Pismo, install OS X on it, then take it out of the Pismo and 
>put it  into the ibook. This seems like a big hassle, so there's got to 
>be an easier way, right? Any suggestions welcome.

Install from the pismo using target disk mode on the iBook?

>PS - While I'm in there replacing the hard drive, how hard is it to 
>install an airport card? Any experiences with performance?

Very easy. As for performance, better reception than current Powerbooks
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[Rajah James]

The title says it all. I've been given a Blueberry clamshell ibook with 
a broken cd drive, which also starts up with the flashing folder deal. 
I quit running OS 9 some time ago, and I'd like to load OS X as it says 
that this is supported on the spec page. I plan on installing Jaguar. 
What is the best way to go about doing this?

The way that I've thought of is to install a spare 9 gig laptop drive 
into my Pismo, install OS X on it, then take it out of the Pismo and 
put it  into the ibook. This seems like a big hassle, so there's got to 
be an easier way, right? Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
PS - While I'm in there replacing the hard drive, how hard is it to 
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Re: Clamshell iBook-USB Storage Support Update, I use 1.4.1 with OS 9.2.2

[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

>I tried to upgrade my OS 9.1 USB Storage Support software to 1.3.5 on
>the Apple site. Got it downloaded, read the requirements, says my
>computer is compatible. However when actually try to install it I get a
>message that it can't be installed on my computer.
>
>You do know that USB Card Support 1.4.1 is the most recent version?
I'm using USB Card Support 1.4.1 with my Lombard (OS 9.2.2) and have 
used with a Wallstreet (OS 8.6)

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Re: Clamshell iBook-USB Storage Support Update

[Bob]

The National Enquirer reports at 6:07 PM -0700 5/20/04, RK Rossi wrote:

>I tried to upgrade my OS 9.1 USB Storage Support software to 1.3.5 on
>the Apple site. Got it downloaded, read the requirements, says my
>computer is compatible. However when actually try to install it I get a
>message that it can't be installed on my computer.
>
>I have to use OS 9.1 on this computer because I use a program which is
>compatible with up to 9.1 only.

You do know that USB Card Support 1.4.1 is the most recent version, 
right? You might want to give it a try. If I can use it with OS 8.6, 
I'm pretty sure you can use it with 9.1. The README file will tell 
you specifically.



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[RK Rossi]

I tried to upgrade my OS 9.1 USB Storage Support software to 1.3.5 on 
the Apple site. Got it downloaded, read the requirements, says my 
computer is compatible. However when actually try to install it I get a 
message that it can't be installed on my computer.

I have to use OS 9.1 on this computer because I use a program which is 
compatible with up to 9.1 only.

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Clamshell iBook: Screen Question

[Kyle Lee]

I have an Indigo iBook running OS X 10.2.8. Once in a while, after the 
machine has gone to sleep and I wake it up, the screen seems dark 
somewhat, especially around the perimeter. And after about 10-15 
minutes, it returns to the original brightness and sometimes it stays 
that way until it goes to sleep again. Upon waking up, it is fine. Any 
clues? I recall seeing discussions concerning the backlight?

Thanks for any help on this.

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Re: OS X on Clamshell iBook

[Dan K]

On 11/18/03 9:29 AM G-Books wrote:
>I'm a Graphic Design student, in Queensland Australia. 
>
>I have a:
>
>Tangerine iBook G3 300 mHz
>192 MB RAM (64 originally, 320 max)
>6 gig HD
>4 MB Vram
>Running OS 9.2.2
>
>My questions are:
>
>can i run OS X (panther or jaguar) smoothly?
>can i run Photoshop 5 and Illustrator 8 in a classic mode? 
>will they run smoothly?
>or should I boost the ram to the max (320 MB)? 
As others have mentioned, Jag and Panther both run very nicely on the 
clamshell iBooks. It does help to max the ram, 544MBs on my Blueberry 
work just dandy.

Errrm, I also speed-bumped it from 300mhz to 400mhz, that helped a bit 
too.

PS5 and Ill 8 should work smoothly, while I haven't used those on this 
iBook I know from using them on my 9600/G3 they run fine under Classic 
with Jag.

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Re: OS X on Clamshell iBook

[PaulaTx1]

In a message dated 11/17/2003 5:31:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> 
> can i run OS X (panther or jaguar) smoothly?

 I have one of the original clamshells (in blue) and have been running Jaguar on it 
since Jaguar first came out.  It is EXTREMELY stable.   I installed a 512mg ram chip 
in it.  It makes a BIG difference.  (Just make sure you get the correct ram for the 
machine. Your machine WILL take a 512 mg chip.) 
   I can't speak for Photoshop or Illustrator, because I use Pagemaker and Indesign.  
On my clamshell, I'm staying at Jaguar.  [My TiPB will be upgrading to Panther.]   If 
you upgrade all the way to Panther, will have to buy more upgrades for your Photoshop 
and Illustrator?  Will they run in Panther?
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Re: OS X on Clamshell iBook

[geno]

I have the same computer. I put a Pc-100 512MB chip in it.

Panther runs great. So much faster then jaguar. I don't have OS9 on my computer 
at all. But Photoshop CS works great on it.

Hope this helps!

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OS X on Clamshell iBook

[Mathew Peace]

I'm a Graphic Design student, in Queensland Australia. 

I have a:

Tangerine iBook G3 300 mHz
192 MB RAM (64 originally, 320 max)
6 gig HD
4 MB Vram
Running OS 9.2.2

My questions are:

can i run OS X (panther or jaguar) smoothly?
can i run Photoshop 5 and Illustrator 8 in a classic mode? 
will they run smoothly?
or should I boost the ram to the max (320 MB)? 

I would like to upgrade to OS X, as many utilities these days are OS X only. 
I've been asking around as this is a costly upgrade for, and a new computer is 
out of the question until I can graduate. 

Thanks
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Re: Clamshell iBook and 10.2.8?

[Brandy]

Maybe it's just really tired and feeling little cranky!
;-)
Brandy
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Hello all,

This Blueberry iBook was running 10.2.8, the original release, since 
the original installation. It went to sleep tonight about an hour ago. 
Now it will not boot from the HD, the Jaguar Disk or OS9.1 Disk.
Thanks
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Re: Clamshell iBook and 10.2.8? : UPDATE

[Andrew Kershaw]

So, I merely tapped the back of the display and the picture 
returned. Any clues?
That sounds like a loose LCD cable.  You could try taking it apart 
and securing the connection, but these cables are extremely fragile. 
If it's not the connector that's loose, you probably have a slight 
(microscopic, even) crack or break in your cable that will positively 
get worse if you try to "fix" it

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Clamshell iBook and 10.2.8? : UPDATE

[Kyle Lee]

Believe it or not. I booted the iBook and let it finish the boot 
sequence. I could tell it was finished because the CD in the tray spun 
up and I heard it mount. I then adjusted the brightness of the monitor 
using the keys on the keyboard. The screen would go totally black and 
extremely white, still no picture. So, I merely tapped the back of the 
display and the picture returned. Any clues? I have taken many iBooks 
apart completely but never the LCD.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Clamshell iBook and 10.2.8?

[Kyle Lee]

Hello all,

This Blueberry iBook was running 10.2.8, the original release, sinc the 
original installation. It went to sleep tonight about an hour ago. Now 
it will not boot from the HD, the Jaguar Disk or OS9.1 Disk. The screen 
lights up at boot, the HD spins, the CD constantly spins up then down 
over and over. If I press the start button and let go after letting the 
computer sit running for a moment, I hear the familiar tone that you 
would get under normal boot, the one you get when the dialog box 
appears asking if you really want to shut down. If I hit enter/return, 
as if to say OK, it shuts down. Any clues on how to get around this? I 
have attempted booting with the option key down,

Thanks

Kyle

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Re: Clamshell iBook

[Brandy]

No There is no pram in the clamshell!
you have to change the batery fast I think it's 15 secoonds!
Tear down was easy for me, what do you need help with?
Brandy
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Picked up a Blueberry clamshell with yo-yo today (for $20 it seemed like 
worth a chance).
Do these things have a PRAM battery?
Does anyone have any experience taking these things apart? 

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Re: Clamshell iBook

[Kyle Lee]

Ken,

Even if this iBook had a bad motherboard, you got a steal. Either way, 
sounds like the Ion battery (Apple M7426 Li-Ion Battery Clamshell 
iBook) is dead. You can find them used on eBay for about $70+. These 
will hold about a 5 hour charge. I am using one now that I bought on 
eBay. New ones will cost about $140.

The iBook does not have a PRAM battery. I have taken so many of these 
apart. It is not that difficult. I can send you the PDF files that 
illustrate how to do it.

Let me know if you want them.

Kyle

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Re: Clamshell iBook

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The problem with so many of these batteries--unless you buy them from 
someone like bti--is that they have been on the shelf and die. I bought 
two from overstock.com and they were d.o.a. i was able to bring them 
back to life with a vst charger... others have not been able to do that 
successfully with some of these.

gary

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This guy has quite a few for sale, but they are not cheap!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2749274205&category=25437
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This guy has quite a few for sale, but they are not cheap!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2749274205&category=25437

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on 8/25/03 11:25 PM, Gary D. Adams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> This iBook does not have a PRAM battery. I think it uses a capacitor
> that's good for a very short times--the time to unscrew the battery and
> replace it--if you're lucky. The big battery is the only battery in it.
> If the main battery is dead, you need to run it with the adapter and get
> another battery--which are scarce as hens' teeth.
> 
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Re: Clamshell iBook

[Thomas Ethen]

According to my tech manual, the Claimshell iBook has no backup battery and
is a bear to take apart.

Tom

on 8/25/03 11:21 PM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> on 25/08/03 23:05, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> Picked up a Blueberry clamshell with yo-yo today (for $20 it seemed like
>> worth a chance).
>> 
>> When I got it home I got it to boot by jiggling the power connector. It
>> looks like the power connector might be loose on whatever board it is
>> mounted to.
>> 
>> While it boots fine to OS 8.6, it does not charge the battery and when
>> the power connector is disconnected, the time reverts to 1904. Do these
>> things have a PRAM battery?
>> 
>> Does anyone have any experience taking these things apart? From my
>> Internet search, it would appear that it is not for the faint of heart,
>> but for $20 it may be worth the risk and learning experience!
>> 
>> The site from which I normally get manuals is down until tomorrow, and I
>> don't know if the "take-apart" is even available for this machine.
>> 
>> Any help appreciated!
>> 
>> Ken


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Re: Clamshell iBook

[Gary D. Adams]

This iBook does not have a PRAM battery. I think it uses a capacitor 
that's good for a very short times--the time to unscrew the battery and 
replace it--if you're lucky. The big battery is the only battery in it. 
If the main battery is dead, you need to run it with the adapter and get 
another battery--which are scarce as hens' teeth.

Gary


Are you saying you got a Blueberry iBook for $20? The battery is dead. I
don't know the iBook very well but since almost every Apple laptop had had a
backup or PRAM battery, I would think that this iBook had one too. It's
probably a rechargeable one and since the main battery is dead, the backup
battery is dead too. You might be able to get it back to work by keeping the
iBook plugged in for 24 to 48 hours. It might need a fully charged main
battery to do so, though...
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Re: Clamshell iBook

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 25/08/03 23:05, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Picked up a Blueberry clamshell with yo-yo today (for $20 it seemed like
> worth a chance).
> 
> When I got it home I got it to boot by jiggling the power connector. It
> looks like the power connector might be loose on whatever board it is
> mounted to.
> 
> While it boots fine to OS 8.6, it does not charge the battery and when
> the power connector is disconnected, the time reverts to 1904. Do these
> things have a PRAM battery?
> 
> Does anyone have any experience taking these things apart? From my
> Internet search, it would appear that it is not for the faint of heart,
> but for $20 it may be worth the risk and learning experience!
> 
> The site from which I normally get manuals is down until tomorrow, and I
> don't know if the "take-apart" is even available for this machine.
> 
> Any help appreciated!
> 
> Ken

Are you saying you got a Blueberry iBook for $20? The battery is dead. I
don't know the iBook very well but since almost every Apple laptop had had a
backup or PRAM battery, I would think that this iBook had one too. It's
probably a rechargeable one and since the main battery is dead, the backup
battery is dead too. You might be able to get it back to work by keeping the
iBook plugged in for 24 to 48 hours. It might need a fully charged main
battery to do so, though...

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Clamshell iBook

[Ken]

Picked up a Blueberry clamshell with yo-yo today (for $20 it seemed like 
worth a chance).

When I got it home I got it to boot by jiggling the power connector. It 
looks like the power connector might be loose on whatever board it is 
mounted to.

While it boots fine to OS 8.6, it does not charge the battery and when 
the power connector is disconnected, the time reverts to 1904. Do these 
things have a PRAM battery?

Does anyone have any experience taking these things apart? From my 
Internet search, it would appear that it is not for the faint of heart, 
but for $20 it may be worth the risk and learning experience!

The site from which I normally get manuals is down until tomorrow, and I 
don't know if the "take-apart" is even available for this machine.

Any help appreciated!

Ken

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Re: USB flash drive for clamshell iBook?

[Shawn Harley]

Andrew,
Any flash drive should work and fit your clamshell iBook. Most, if not 
all, come with an extender cable. I have 2 - 128MB flash drives from 
Tamarack (Pen Drives) and I have to use the cable.
Shawn

On Thursday, August 21, 2003, at 08:23 AM, Andrew Main wrote:

A while ago I bought one of Dr Bott's clever little T3Hub USB hubs 
<http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?code=3105-T3IB> for use with a 
clamshell iBook (which has only one USB port), but was dismayed (and 
rather annoyed) to find that it didn't fit. The iBook's USB port is 
recessed about a half inch into the case, and the casing of the T3Hub 
stops it from inserting far enough to make contact. I eventually used 
a razor blade to shave off the corners of the T3Hub's casing so it 
could be inserted in the iBook, an ugly if finally effective solution.

Now I want to get a USB flash drive to use with, among others, 
clamshell iBooks, but am concerned that I might encounter the same 
problem. Has anyone used a USB flash drive with a clamshell iBook, and 
run into this difficulty -- or not? What brand works, or doesn't?

Andrew Main

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A while ago I bought one of Dr Bott's clever little T3Hub USB hubs 
<http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?code=3105-T3IB> for use with a 
clamshell iBook (which has only one USB port), but was dismayed (and 
rather annoyed) to find that it didn't fit. The iBook's USB port is 
recessed about a half inch into the case, and the casing of the T3Hub 
stops it from inserting far enough to make contact. I eventually used 
a razor blade to shave off the corners of the T3Hub's casing so it 
could be inserted in the iBook, an ugly if finally effective solution.

Now I want to get a USB flash drive to use with, among others, 
clamshell iBooks, but am concerned that I might encounter the same 
problem. Has anyone used a USB flash drive with a clamshell iBook, 
and run into this difficulty -- or not? What brand works, or doesn't?

Andrew Main

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Re: Jaguar in a Clamshell iBook 300 MHz?

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> Can I use the Jaguar OS in a Clamshell iBook 300MHz? I have 288 RAM.

You should be fine. I started using Mac OS X 10.1.x initially on a
Wallstreet at 300 MHz and I was happy. Jaguar (10.2) is way faster than 10.1
so you should be OK.

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Can I use the Jaguar OS in a Clamshell iBook 300MHz? I have 288 RAM.
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Clamshell iBook

[Jack Putnam]

Hello, 

I am new to the list.

I am looking to purchase a clamshell iBook (300 or 366MHz).

Any one have one they wish to sell?

Thanks,

Jack 


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clamshell ibook modem fix?

[Bufford Ennox]

My girlfriend's clamshell ibook modem plug is now
floating around inside the case. It is no longer under
warranty and apple wants $400.00+ just to look at it.
Does anyone know of a place to get either a
replacement modem and detailed instructions (I have
installed a modem in a PB 520c so I am not a complete
beginner) or know of a good tech in the Seattle area
that could guarantee their work? I know a USB external
modem is another option, but she would rather not have
that hassle. Thanks in advance!

-Buffordz 

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