Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
On May 7, 2005, at 7:49 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: In my opinion, Apple needs to SLOW DOWN. They have. 10.4 took longer than any other upgrade to come out of the gate. It has a LOT under the hood that makes OS X a much better OS. Apple has said they're looking at 18-24 month cycles for future OS releases. They should have just stuck with Panther for a while, and focused their developing efforts to bring back the Newton, This will never happen for a variety of reasons, but mostly that the PDA market is stagnant. Apparently everyone wants com combine everything into the cell phone, so we'll have a half-assed PDA, a half-assed camera, a half-assed MP3 player, a half-assed web browser, a half-assed video player, a half-assed game console, and oh, yeah, a phone...all in one bundle. And inevitably the japanes will have one that is better, but unavailable outside Japan. But what do I know...I'm a non-cell carrying luddite. Yes, I'd dearly love a Pocket-PC sized Newton-OSX uber PDA device. I cherish my Newts, but like everyone pining for their Studebaker, Packard or Cord, those were glorious days, but they're not coming back... and concentrate on a G5 PowerBook / iBook. I'm sure they're working on them, but these are HARD problems to solve, and most of the work is being done by IBM at this point. I also suspect that a dual-core G4 is going to make a better laptop system than a G5. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
On May 8, 2005, at 7:50 AM, Dennis B. Swaney wrote: At 7:49 AM -0700 5/7/05, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello All, I wanted to thank everyone who joined in on this thread. I was speaking from the heart and it might not have needed to be so important, but I'm just tired of upgrades folks. Yea Tiger sounds cool this and cool that, but it just seems that once I FINALLY get comfortable with my damn computer, Apple is racing the clock to make it obsolete. These big OS upgrades make me nervous. It's only a matter of time before the ATI video card in my Pismo will no longer be supported. Tiger supports it. . .for now. In my opinion, Apple needs to SLOW DOWN. They should have just stuck with Panther for a while, and focused their developing efforts to bring back the Newton, and concentrate on a G5 PowerBook / iBook. When it comes to software, I say what most people say about hardware that works. . .if it ain't broke, why fix it?! Anyway, no need to respond to this, I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who prefers to wait it out when major OS upgrades roll out yet again. I just hope someone at Apple reads this and agrees. Maybe Tiger will be the new OS for the next 2 or even 3 years. Apple could stretch it out. . . after all, they have to go from 10.4.0 all the way up to 10.4.9! Thanks again! Sounds like you would be much happier using Windows. Afterall, Windows XP came out in what, 2003? and its successor, codenamed Longhorn isn't scheduled to ship until 2006, possibly 2007. Of course, everyone knows what the reason is for the delay: M$ has to decide what to steal from Tiger! -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Dennis you are sadly mistaken. Windoze has had SEVERAL updates since the original release of XP. Several service packs; as Microsnot calls them, and so many security updates it's not even funny. I only know this due to my profession, which requires me to know a bit of everything on most platforms. The software update process for Windoze on top of everything else is flawed, based on IE, which is a security nightmare. . .not polished like Apple's Software Update being a completely separate app. In the future, please carefully read posts and don't jump to conclusions. I am not, nor have I ever been, a PeeCee user. I have had Amigas and Macs since their advent in 1985. Sorry if I sound pissed, but the WORST insult in my circle is calling someone or even suggesting that someone is or could be a PeeCee user. Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
On May 7, 2005, at 5:37 PM, Frank Cornew wrote: Also am seeing odd behaviour with an Epson 740 inkjet. Won't print via USB, but can access via utilities and get ink levels, clean, etc. On the other hand, I can print to this printer via Airport Express (remote node on network generated on a snow abs), but no access via utilities or ink level check via the new button in print window. Issues may have been present under Panther, only just pulled the 740 out of storage. You many need to install secondary (optional) Epson printer drivers again. I also have the Epson 740 and it worked fine on my Pismo running Panther after I found and installed those darn drivers. I haven't tried to print to the Epson via Tiger yet. Turtle-Bear -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
At 7:49 AM -0700 5/7/05, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello All, I wanted to thank everyone who joined in on this thread. I was speaking from the heart and it might not have needed to be so important, but I'm just tired of upgrades folks. Yea Tiger sounds cool this and cool that, but it just seems that once I FINALLY get comfortable with my damn computer, Apple is racing the clock to make it obsolete. These big OS upgrades make me nervous. It's only a matter of time before the ATI video card in my Pismo will no longer be supported. Tiger supports it. . .for now. In my opinion, Apple needs to SLOW DOWN. They should have just stuck with Panther for a while, and focused their developing efforts to bring back the Newton, and concentrate on a G5 PowerBook / iBook. When it comes to software, I say what most people say about hardware that works. . .if it ain't broke, why fix it?! Anyway, no need to respond to this, I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who prefers to wait it out when major OS upgrades roll out yet again. I just hope someone at Apple reads this and agrees. Maybe Tiger will be the new OS for the next 2 or even 3 years. Apple could stretch it out. . . after all, they have to go from 10.4.0 all the way up to 10.4.9! Thanks again! Sounds like you would be much happier using Windows. Afterall, Windows XP came out in what, 2003? and its successor, codenamed Longhorn isn't scheduled to ship until 2006, possibly 2007. Of course, everyone knows what the reason is for the delay: M$ has to decide what to steal from Tiger! -- Sincerely, Dennis B. Swaney Windows is a command-line OS with a GUI shell while Mac System 10 is ... oh, never mind. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Hello kt: Excuse my smug tone in prior post. Forgot to mention that i ensured that the maintenance routines had run via macaroni, did a full permissions repair, Disk utility repair and a diskwarrior rebuild. Furthermore, no Norton products have ever been installed on my Pismo OSX. All of these preventive measures should have helped. Definitely contributed to me running out of gas and gambling on a straight update instead of fresh install. Either that or the painkillers i'm on for my back surgery last week...which also may have contributed to the smug tone. I really had geared up for a clean install - maybe even wiping the drive in order to get find by content/spotlight indexing to work properly. Will wait for my next drive upgrade. I wimped out, but am still surprised by the mostly positive outcome. Will also look for the Epson drivers mentioned by TurtleBear. Anyway, let's focus on the reports of Tiger issues, solutions and features. Should help everyone make or decide to make the transition. F. Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:30:21 -0400 Subject: Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?! From: Karen Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I have finally had a successful install on my PowerBook 17 1GHz with 1 Gig of ram. I initially tried the update and when I rebooted everything was slower than molasses trying to go uphill. System Profiler and Safari would not even launch. I then did a reinstall, same problem. I then reinstalled OS 10.3.9 (not a good idea according to Apple) and still problems. Today I decided to bite the bullet and erase and install and now everything is fine. I had backed up all data and software so should not be a problem now. Live and Learn kt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Hello All, I wanted to thank everyone who joined in on this thread. I was speaking from the heart and it might not have needed to be so important, but I'm just tired of upgrades folks. Yea Tiger sounds cool this and cool that, but it just seems that once I FINALLY get comfortable with my damn computer, Apple is racing the clock to make it obsolete. These big OS upgrades make me nervous. It's only a matter of time before the ATI video card in my Pismo will no longer be supported. Tiger supports it. . .for now. In my opinion, Apple needs to SLOW DOWN. They should have just stuck with Panther for a while, and focused their developing efforts to bring back the Newton, and concentrate on a G5 PowerBook / iBook. When it comes to software, I say what most people say about hardware that works. . .if it ain't broke, why fix it?! Anyway, no need to respond to this, I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who prefers to wait it out when major OS upgrades roll out yet again. I just hope someone at Apple reads this and agrees. Maybe Tiger will be the new OS for the next 2 or even 3 years. Apple could stretch it out. . . after all, they have to go from 10.4.0 all the way up to 10.4.9! Thanks again! Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
On Sat, 7 May 2005, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello All, I wanted to thank everyone who joined in on this thread. I was speaking from the heart and it might not have needed to be so important, but I'm just tired of upgrades folks. Yea Tiger sounds cool this and cool that, but it just seems that once I FINALLY get comfortable with my damn computer, Apple is racing the clock to make it obsolete. These big OS upgrades make me nervous. It's only a matter of time before the ATI video card in my Pismo will no longer be supported. Tiger supports it. . .for now. Don't worry about it so much. Computers are in a constant state of upgrades. As long as your video card is supported by the software your actually running, then everything is fine. :) The only thing I worry about is file format comapatibility. I really hate the nearly non standard file formats for just about everything and the constant inability to open this versions document verses that version. That gets annoying. In my opinion, Apple needs to SLOW DOWN. They should have just stuck with Panther for a while, and focused their developing efforts to bring back the Newton, and concentrate on a G5 PowerBook / iBook. When it comes to software, I say what most people say about hardware that works. . .if it ain't broke, why fix it?! Anyway, no need to respond to this, I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who prefers to wait it out when major OS upgrades roll out yet again. I just hope someone at Apple reads this and agrees. Maybe Tiger will be the new OS for the next 2 or even 3 years. Apple could stretch it out. . . after all, they have to go from 10.4.0 all the way up to 10.4.9! Your in luck. Apple knows it can't sustain [or burden everyone with] constant 12-18 month upgrades. I believe it was Phil Schuller [sp?] who said that the upgrades will slow down, and it will probably be more of a 2 -2.5 year schedule. -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
On May 7, 2005, at 12:30 PM, G-Books wrote: From: Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?! Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 07:49:40 -0700 Hello All, I wanted to thank everyone who joined in on this thread. I was speaking from the heart and it might not have needed to be so important, but I'm just tired of upgrades folks. Yea Tiger sounds cool this and cool that, but it just seems that once I FINALLY get comfortable with my damn computer, Apple is racing the clock to make it obsolete. These big OS upgrades make me nervous. It's only a matter of time before the ATI video card in my Pismo will no longer be supported. Tiger supports it. . .for now. In my opinion, Apple needs to SLOW DOWN. They should have just stuck with Panther for a while, and focused their developing efforts to bring back the Newton, and concentrate on a G5 PowerBook / iBook. When it comes to software, I say what most people say about hardware that works. . .if it ain't broke, why fix it?! Anyway, no need to respond to this, I just wanted to thank everyone for their input. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who prefers to wait it out when major OS upgrades roll out yet again. I just hope someone at Apple reads this and agrees. Maybe Tiger will be the new OS for the next 2 or even 3 years. Apple could stretch it out. . . after all, they have to go from 10.4.0 all the way up to 10.4.9! Thanks again! Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER I think Apple has waited. Tiger was released 18 months after Panther. Your Pismo is over five years old now, I think it's to Apple's credit that it is still a viable computer choice. I'm not sure what you mean about the video card in the Pismo being supported, Quartz Extreme requires at least a 16MB video card (600mnz iBook and up) while the new Core Video has only a few supported cards at this time. I have the same card in my 500mhz TiBook. --- JSH TiBook Change your thoughts and you change your world. (Norman Vincent Peale) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Hello Zoltan, On 7-May-05, at 7:49 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello All, I wanted to thank everyone who joined in on this thread. I was speaking from the heart and it might not have needed to be so important, but I'm just tired of upgrades folks. Yea Tiger sounds cool this and cool that, but it just seems that once I FINALLY get comfortable with my damn computer, Apple is racing the clock to make it obsolete. I understand what you are saying here but Apple has really strived to support older systems while continuing to provide upgrades to the rest of their customer base. Look at how long they have supported OS 9 ! They have to continue to move forward but it doesn't mean you have to. Nobody is forcing you to upgrade to Tiger. I am sure you could use Panther for another couple of years and you'd still be fine. I highly doubt Apple will stick with Tiger for another 2-3 years and I can't see them backtracking to try and revive the Newton either. I am excited by all the upgrades - but that's because I find them increasing my efficiency and making normally tedious task much easier (i.e Automator, new e-mail photo functions, integrating iPhoto, iDVD and iTunes, etc). Anyway, as I said, I do understand and appreciate your concerns but you have to realize that they are not shared universally. While many want to hold off on upgrades, many others want the improved OS for a variety of reasons. Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Let's get to work! Tiger was a smooth upgrade on my 400 mHz Pismo. 576 MB RAM, 60 GB fast travelstar. Was going to do a clean install and migrate due to the scads of haxies on my Panther system. Updated the haxies, backed up, got lazy and did a straight upgrade. No regrets. Spotlight is great! Find by content never did work under Panther due to some mysterious blockage of the indexing process. Really missed it. Tiger Spotlight indexed 45 GB in under 8 hours. We can now open multiple get info windows on selections of multiple finder items as was possible under 9.x and prior systems. Previous incarnations of X gave a one size fits all coverall info window - useless when trying to compare files/folders. Only two 'issues': My newer tech 6600 mAH battery doesn't seem to calibrate. Time remaining for full discharge/charge never gets calculated in menu bar display - yet. Pecentage, yes. Am cycling, have reset PMU, nvram, etc. Think there is a hard core calibration tactic via terminal that I may yet try. Also am seeing odd behaviour with an Epson 740 inkjet. Won't print via USB, but can access via utilities and get ink levels, clean, etc. On the other hand, I can print to this printer via Airport Express (remote node on network generated on a snow abs), but no access via utilities or ink level check via the new button in print window. Issues may have been present under Panther, only just pulled the 740 out of storage. F. -- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tim Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?! Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:48:01 -0400 I have to agree with Craig. I originally installed Tiger as an upgrade on my G5 iMac but I didn't like how things were workingI had installed a lot of the haxies and such. So I copied my hard drive to an external hard drive and did a clean install of Tiger. I used the Migration Assistant to bring over stuff. But I had a few applications that I had bought online and I kept the registration in an email archive. In the past (when I upgraded from 10.2 to 10.3) I had to open the entire file in textedit and use the 'find' feature for the various apps (maybe I should think about storing them somewhere else..or maybe hard copy). Anyway, with Tiger, I clicked on spotlight and typed in the name of the application. Spotlight found the email archive on the external drive, searched the entire file and had the information for me in UNDER 10 SECONDS! Now, I was EXTREMELY impressed! In addition to speeding up my iBooks, 2002 Quicksilver and iMac, Tiger is just really fast and I'm still looking for the 'bugs' (hype on the part of some nay-sayers). And, best of all, Apple BEAT Microsoft to the release of a 64 bit OS. Running Tiger makes me proud! But, for those of you who still prefer to stay with your present OS, it it OS 8.6 or whatever.that's just fine and dandy. But keep in mind that Apple doesn't support them anymore and there isn't going to be a lot of new software coming your way. Nothing wrong with running an upgraded 7300I applaud you, that's how I started out when I decided to make the switch from Windows to the Mac, but progress is so much more fun. And, that's what I use my Mac for is FUN! Tim On May 7, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Rad Craig wrote: I understand your point, but can't agree with it. If everyone thought that way, we'd all still be riding horses, instead of modern transportation. I don't believe horses are 'broke', so why fix them? The world is flat, I can deal with that, as long as I don't sail too far, and fall off, there won't be a problem. I know 'x' people die every year from cancer or MS (or insert other fatal disease here), we've got most major diseases covered, do we really need to solve the rest? These are of course exaggerated examples. If you are happy with an operating system or hardware platform, stick with it, you don't HAVE to upgrade, it's optional. But for the rest of the world who like the new features and/or speed improvements, maybe features that might make their life easier, or get their job done quicker (spotlight) so that they can spend more time with their family, or their time spent on the computer more enjoyable, its their option to buy the new upgrades in software and hardware. Rad... On May 7, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello All, I wanted to thank everyone who joined in on this thread. I was speaking from the heart and it might not have needed to be so important, but I'm just tired of upgrades folks. Yea Tiger sounds cool this and cool that, but it just seems that once I FINALLY get comfortable with my damn computer, Apple is racing the clock to make it obsolete. These big OS upgrades make me nervous. It's only a matter of time before the ATI video card in my Pismo will no longer be supported. Tiger supports it. . .for now
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Hello, I have finally had a successful install on my PowerBook 17 1GHz with 1 Gig of ram. I initially tried the update and when I rebooted everything was slower than molasses trying to go uphill. System Profiler and Safari would not even launch. I then did a reinstall, same problem. I then reinstalled OS 10.3.9 (not a good idea according to Apple) and still problems. Today I decided to bite the bullet and erase and install and now everything is fine. I had backed up all data and software so should not be a problem now. Live and Learn kt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Pacer wrote: My Fellow PowerBook-philes and Zoltan, I purchased Tiger right away but did not install it right away. The reason I did this was in order to ensure that I received a low-price for a retail box version of the system. As there were multiple dealers selling Tiger at ~$100 without requiring an update, this was ideal for me. I'd love to know where you found it for that price! JR -- This sig contains no political, religious, or commercial content whatsoever. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On May 5, 2005, at 2:36 PM, John wrote: Pacer wrote: My Fellow PowerBook-philes and Zoltan, I purchased Tiger right away but did not install it right away. The reason I did this was in order to ensure that I received a low-price for a retail box version of the system. As there were multiple dealers selling Tiger at ~$100 without requiring an update, this was ideal for me. I'd love to know where you found it for that price! with my edu discount it was $69 :P -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
The microcenter.com deal is the best, non-edu, price I've seen - $129 - $50(mail-in-rebate). Still available, until the 22nd. On 5/5/05, Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 5, 2005, at 2:36 PM, John wrote: Pacer wrote: My Fellow PowerBook-philes and Zoltan, I purchased Tiger right away but did not install it right away. The reason I did this was in order to ensure that I received a low-price for a retail box version of the system. As there were multiple dealers selling Tiger at ~$100 without requiring an update, this was ideal for me. I'd love to know where you found it for that price! with my edu discount it was $69 :P -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Actually, if you do a good backup, there really is no reason to wait. If I was the slightest worried about instability (which thus far I have no reason to be), I can always just boot from my external FireWire drive into my old Panther install. Fortunately, I haven't had to do that yet, and Tiger remains a delight after a full week. Haven't even had to restart my PowerBook yet. Andrew -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
RE: Van Snyder ... The microcenter.com deal is the best, non-edu, price I've seen - $129 - $50(mail-in-rebate). Still available, until the 22nd. Is this rebate a MicroCenter deal, an Apple deal, or ? I don't seem to see anything about it on the MicroCenter site. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Is this rebate a MicroCenter deal, an Apple deal, or ? I don't seem to see anything about it on the MicroCenter site. We got Tiger from them in about 2 days and we're just about to send in the rebate form: http://dealmac.com/articles/ Mac+OS+X+10.4+Tiger+for+80+after+rebate+updated/85936.html http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml? product_id=0189763 Anne -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
On Wed, 4 May 2005, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello all, I've been hearing a lot lately about Tiger this and Tiger that. . .doesn't anyone wait anymore? I mean, there's bound to be bugs in huge upgrades. . .history has taught me that. When I went from 9 to Puma (10.1) I ended up going back to 9 until Jaguar (10.2.) came out; and I didn't go to Jaguar until about 7 months after it was released. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people these days just can't wait to run down to the Apple Store to pop in the latest and greatest only to find themselves slowed down by piles of BUGS. No thanks. . .I'm happy right now with 10.3.9. :) I always wait. Usually some expensive app [music] that I need to upgrade first gets in the way. In general though I wait, I don't like doing OS upgrades. I went from 7.5.5 [came with the 7300] to 7.6.1 [once the cds were shipping that way] to 8.0/1 [when 8.1 was available for download] to 8.5/6 [when 9 come out], skipped all of 9 as I was tired of playing the upgrade game and nothing I used required it.. I didn't upgrade to OSX until Jaguar when 10.2.3 was shipping on disc and didn't upgrade to Panther until the 10.3.5 discs were shipping. Bleeding edge I'm not. I usually only upgrade when an app that I use is upgraded and requires an OS upgrade. So far I'm safe. :) From the many reports out there it seems Tiger is pretty stable for a major OS upgrade though. -- Nick http://www.izap.com/~pinnacle therhythmex: AIM, Jabber, and Yahoo Messenger ID So have I become your enemy by telling you the truth? Galations 4:16 [NASB] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Hello all, I've been hearing a lot lately about Tiger this and Tiger that. . .doesn't anyone wait anymore? I mean, there's bound to be bugs in huge upgrades. . .history has taught me that. When I went from 9 to Puma (10.1) I ended up going back to 9 until Jaguar (10.2.) came out; and I didn't go to Jaguar until about 7 months after it was released. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people these days just can't wait to run down to the Apple Store to pop in the latest and greatest only to find themselves slowed down by piles of BUGS. No thanks. . .I'm happy right now with 10.3.9. :) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
On May 4, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello all, I've been hearing a lot lately about Tiger this and Tiger that. . .doesn't anyone wait anymore? I mean, there's bound to be bugs in huge upgrades. . .history has taught me that. When I went from 9 to Puma (10.1) I ended up going back to 9 until Jaguar (10.2.) came out; and I didn't go to Jaguar until about 7 months after it was released. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people these days just can't wait to run down to the Apple Store to pop in the latest and greatest only to find themselves slowed down by piles of BUGS. There aren't, to my knowledge piles of bugs in Tiger. There is one known bug, in the VPN code that's causing problems, and some programs need to be updated. But if you go to someplace like macintouch or MacFixit to get your sense of the release, you'll thing that 10.4 is buggier than Windows 3.0... MacFixit, in particular will pass along ANYthing. Macintouch will try to get confirmation on things. 'Did this happen to more than one person?' MacFixit: Joe Blow says that when he upgraded to 10.4 his mouse stopped working entirely. Don't install 10.4 or your mouse stops working. Ten minutes later Joe says he fixed it, the cat pulled it out of the USB socket. I always take what I find on these and the Apple forums with some grains of salt...they're squeaky wheel fests to rival a national hamster convention. Besides, if everyone waits...who's going to find the bugs? :-p Me, I'm expecting my copy this Friday or the beginning of next week. I'm not sure which system I'm installing it on, it's not going to be my production system first thing; probably either my Pismo or my home desktop on the spare HDD. If you're a belts and suspenders kinda guy, a good conservative rule of thumb is always wait for the 0.1 version of *anything*. (sez the guy who switched to Mozilla as his primary web browser way back at version 0.6...lots of arrow scars from that progression to Firefox 1.03 today) But there's a lot to like about Tiger. I'm not going to wait very long...there's one piece of sftware I use that I KNOW is affected, and they're supposed to get the update out this week. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Actually, this has been the most trouble-free upgrade I've done. It is now loaded on my iBook G4/800, which I did first and tested for stability, as well as an eMac and my mini. All were done as archive install, with settings imported, and I had no install problems and only one other problem. It seems that after installing Tiger, the old Targus USB hub that was attached to the mini caused the system to crash several times. Removed the hub and no problems since. I have seen some people complaining about network and printer problems but I have had none. My wife has been wanting Spotlight since it was announced, so I had to get Tiger on her eMac to shut her up. :-) JeffW. Hello all, I've been hearing a lot lately about Tiger this and Tiger that. . .doesn't anyone wait anymore? I mean, there's bound to be bugs in huge upgrades. . .history has taught me that. When I went from 9 to Puma (10.1) I ended up going back to 9 until Jaguar (10.2.) came out; and I didn't go to Jaguar until about 7 months after it was released. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people these days just can't wait to run down to the Apple Store to pop in the latest and greatest only to find themselves slowed down by piles of BUGS. No thanks. . .I'm happy right now with 10.3.9. :) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Wait? Never! I installed Tiger last night. I waited a few days to see if my monitor would explode if I didn't. Installation went smoothly, a lot quicker than I expected. Optimization was extremely fast. So far no problems. Tiger seems smoother, just like Panther felt smoother than Jaguar. I'm going to love Automator. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Besides, it seems to me we should all be grateful for the pioneers who choose to install the latest OS when it comes out and find out for themselves (and the rest of us) what the bugs are... On 5/4/05 9:52 AM, Jason Rife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, I ordered it, got it at the student rate, but I may wait ti install it for a bit.. It does look nice on the store display models, though On 5/4/05, Zoltan Batiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I've been hearing a lot lately about Tiger this and Tiger that. . .doesn't anyone wait anymore? I mean, there's bound to be bugs in huge upgrades. . .history has taught me that. When I went from 9 to Puma (10.1) I ended up going back to 9 until Jaguar (10.2.) came out; and I didn't go to Jaguar until about 7 months after it was released. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people these days just can't wait to run down to the Apple Store to pop in the latest and greatest only to find themselves slowed down by piles of BUGS. No thanks. . .I'm happy right now with 10.3.9. :) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Hello Zoltan, On 4-May-05, at 8:49 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello all, I've been hearing a lot lately about Tiger this and Tiger that. . .doesn't anyone wait anymore? I mean, there's bound to be bugs in huge upgrades. . .history has taught me that. Some people choose to wait, some don't.I have been using Macs for more than 15 years now and I have to say that this was by far the smoothest OS upgrade process I have ever had. However, I certainly understand what you are saying - historically, there have been some problems with new OS software. BUT - they were ironed out and I think the majority of people have been pretty content with the upgrades overall in the past 2-3 years. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people these days just can't wait to run down to the Apple Store to pop in the latest and greatest only to find themselves slowed down by piles of BUGS. No thanks. . .I'm happy right now with 10.3.9. :) Of course, it is always a choice as to whether you buy new, major upgrade software within the first few days of release but sometimes you have to take calculated risks and this was one that I felt worth taking. There were so many cool new features in Tiger that I personally did not want to wait. The time savings and integration between programs seemed very impressive from what I had read and they have definitely proven to be so in the last few days that I have had Tiger installed. It seems to be a fantastic upgrade thus far ! Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Take a look at this web link, it lists compatibility for Tiger and 3rd party software venders. This list helped me plan my Tiger upgrade for my computer network. I administer over 100 Macs at my job, and I have no plans within the next 3 months to upgrade. OS 10.3.9 runs perfectly. It's all a matter of perspective. http://www.macintouch.com/tigerreview/incompatibility.html Cheers. -- Aaron Willems IT Administrator Lieberman Productions From: Amber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 12:46:34 -0700 To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?! Hello Zoltan, On 4-May-05, at 8:49 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello all, I've been hearing a lot lately about Tiger this and Tiger that. . .doesn't anyone wait anymore? I mean, there's bound to be bugs in huge upgrades. . .history has taught me that. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?!
Well... On the date of the release of Tiger, at 6:00 p.m. I found myself in line waiting for the Apple Store to re-open. They opened up the store's door and about 200 or so of us faithfuls were in line and under a general applause we entered the Store. The Apple personnel were distributing some sort of scratch and win game... I won an iTune! Upon entry, I proceeded to go straight to the counter and purchased my fresh copy of Tiger. I came home soon thereafter, and installed on my TiG4, 15, 1Ghz. I figured, bugs or no bugs, I will deal with it. I did the same when 10 came out. Then the same when 10.2 came out. The same with 10.3. Never had any issues (major ones) to deal with. Some of us are crazy that way. ___ NBT On May 4, 2005, at 19:36, Pacer wrote: My Fellow PowerBook-philes and Zoltan, I purchased Tiger right away but did not install it right away. The reason I did this was in order to ensure that I received a low- price for a retail box version of the system. As there were multiple dealers selling Tiger at ~$100 without requiring an update, this was ideal for me. My thinking is that I should grab this good price and then install it later after a few bugs work themselves out. Cheers! Sincerely, Pacer the Loon Zoltan Batiz wrote: Hello all, I've been hearing a lot lately about Tiger this and Tiger that. . .doesn't anyone wait anymore? I mean, there's bound to be bugs in huge upgrades. . .history has taught me that. When I went from 9 to Puma (10.1) I ended up going back to 9 until Jaguar (10.2.) came out; and I didn't go to Jaguar until about 7 months after it was released. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people these days just can't wait to run down to the Apple Store to pop in the latest and greatest only to find themselves slowed down by piles of BUGS. No thanks. . .I'm happy right now with 10.3.9. :) Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?! {Tiger Gotcha}
Beware a major Gotcha..
Tiger does not support FileSharing over Appletalk, only TCP/IP.
And I and other have found that TCP/IP Filesharing between X.2{.4, I
think, not sure which rev.} or X.3 OS9 is unstable; it times out
after about 120 seconds idle.
This bug has been reported multiple times. Apple waffles between
claiming they fixed it -- just buy 10.3, and back to we're looking
at it.. when you do and it's still there. I doubt they EVER will.
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Re: Doesn't anyone wait anymore?! {Tiger Gotcha}
Perhaps it is a feature?
:)
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NBT
On May 4, 2005, at 20:36, David Lesher wrote:
Beware a major Gotcha..
Tiger does not support FileSharing over Appletalk, only TCP/IP.
And I and other have found that TCP/IP Filesharing between X.2{.4,
I think, not sure which rev.} or X.3 OS9 is unstable; it times
out after about 120 seconds idle.
This bug has been reported multiple times. Apple waffles between
claiming they fixed it -- just buy 10.3, and back to we're looking
at it.. when you do and it's still there. I doubt they EVER will.
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