Re: DA G4 will not shut down
If it were me, I'd take a different hard drive, wipe it, and install a system from the original system disks. Then reboot from the new setup. If it still has issues, it has to be hardware. If it works OK from that bare bones system, then update/add software till the problem shows up again. If you go one step at a time, you will know what was done last, therefore what caused the problem to start. Yeah, it takes time to step through to do this. If you knew what was done to the system just before this started, that might give you a better starting point. Then it would be worth undoing the last change to see if that fixes things. ~~~ On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: Il giorno 29/01/14 21.37, smac0031 ha scritto: I tried safe boot and reinstalling 10.4.11 ppc combo update. It didn't make any difference. This makes me think it's more likely is a hardware issue, not software. Reinstalling the update should have fixed most software issues, at least regarding OSX itself. But the issue could be from a different (non Apple) software as well, maybe some driver or kext (extension) from weird apps. In System Preferences, in the lower row (Tools or Accessories), what do you have? I also noticed it won't restart either. It hangs at the desktop picture and won't go any farther. This makes sense: to restart, it needs to shutdown the system first. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: If it persists when you do a safe boot, it's most likely something hardware related, because only Apple kexts are running then. Agreed, hardware is seeming likely. I still don't understand why he's not seeing the verbose shutdown dialog unless it stalls prior to reaching this point, which might be pointing toward a bad video card. I'd try removing and reseating the video card just-in-case... If he doesn't have the Apple Hardware Test CD, you can download an image here, and burn it, run the test, and see if there's a hardware issue: http://www.info.apple.com/support/aht.html -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
Would it be possible to write an applescript to do this shutdown. I am a little leery here, I haven't written a program in 25 years. On Monday, January 13, 2014 11:18:24 PM UTC-5, smac0031 wrote: My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. Mark Murphy -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
This thread seems to be going nowhere. I perused the archive, I see no evidence of progress. My advice: 1) Safe boot with Shift key at startup. Then reinstall the 10.4.11 PPC Combo Update. 2) Upon reboot hold (Cmd-v) keys for verbose dialog at startup. Hit Shutdown, and see what happens. It may be fixed, and shutdown normally. If not, you can see where the stall is. 3) If it's a USB card problem, look in System Profiler for the exact model of your card, you'll be looking for the VID (Vendor ID #) and DID (Device ID #), as well as the Firmware revision. I've not encountered too many USB PCI cards needing firmware update, but I have encounter many external USB enclosures, including ones with NEC chipsets, that either didn't work on Mac, or worked very poorly, which were greatly improved by updating the firmware. Often finding such firmware is nearly impossible, most hardware this old has zero support, and websites shutdown, the Internet ArchiveWayback Machine is often the only hope. If you have the VID DID and chipset, or model #, you might find others with PPC Macs with similar issues? Often stalled shutdowns are network issues, perhaps you connected to another Mac or server in the past, and now it's waiting for some acknowledgement of a disconnect that's never coming. Hopefully a simple Safe Boot or reinstall of the Combo Update would solve this, but seeing the verbose dialog would surely be best. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
in my experience with flashing PC cards in a PC, i use an old PCI video card so that i can see what is happening to the AGP card throughout the flashing process. there is a command in the NVFlash.exe tool that will let you know what slot each card is in, so that when you issue the command to copy the new rom to the agp card, you select the right card. the strangedogs forum is long gone, i believe. themacelite forum is all that's left, but it is a good place to find instructions, links to the flashing tool, and a good database of rim's. On Sunday, January 26, 2014 1:35:21 AM UTC-5, mhfadams wrote: On Jan 25, 2014, at 06:03 , Kris Tilford wrote: There’s a hack for adapting an standard PC ATX power supply into G4s, might be cheaper and safer (no 28v line for ADC) if you’re going to try your 9600XT again (assuming it’s not fried also?). Google “G4 ATX” and you can find lots of info for either modding yourself, or buying something. Thanks for that note ... I'll be looking into that. ... I've acquired several G4s with blown power supplies including a MDD that I'd like to start using, (seems to me the P.S. is the most common failure on G4s - just like the G5s always have coolant system troubles.) Back to original topic, I've tried all the *easy* possibilities, and am back to what you suggested about the card firmware. I have downloaded the software and instructions, but unfortunately no os-x version available so I'll have to wait until I can find a PC with an AGP slot (I really never thought I'd need a PC again ! ). Manoah F. Adams mhfa...@gmail.com javascript: info:https://federaladamsfamily.com/developer This message is signed with a certificate and-or PGP key. Disregard any unverified messages from this address. === -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Unable to enter password in Terminal
I tried to perform the terminal shutdown listed earlier, but after terminal asked me for my password, the cursor didn't move. I couldn't enter my password. I don't know what I may be doing wrong, or what is wrong with my settings, prefs have not been altered from default. Perplexing. Does anyone have any suggestions that might help? Thanks Fred -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Unable to enter password in Terminal
It does not show the password, but it is typing. On Jan 27, 2014 5:48 AM, Zaphod fth...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I tried to perform the terminal shutdown listed earlier, but after terminal asked me for my password, the cursor didn't move. I couldn't enter my password. I don't know what I may be doing wrong, or what is wrong with my settings, prefs have not been altered from default. Perplexing. Does anyone have any suggestions that might help? Thanks Fred -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
On Jan 25, 2014, at 06:03 , Kris Tilford wrote: There’s a hack for adapting an standard PC ATX power supply into G4s, might be cheaper and safer (no 28v line for ADC) if you’re going to try your 9600XT again (assuming it’s not fried also?). Google “G4 ATX” and you can find lots of info for either modding yourself, or buying something. Thanks for that note ... I'll be looking into that. ... I've acquired several G4s with blown power supplies including a MDD that I'd like to start using, (seems to me the P.S. is the most common failure on G4s - just like the G5s always have coolant system troubles.) Back to original topic, I've tried all the easy possibilities, and am back to what you suggested about the card firmware. I have downloaded the software and instructions, but unfortunately no os-x version available so I'll have to wait until I can find a PC with an AGP slot (I really never thought I'd need a PC again ! ). Manoah F. Adams mhfad...@gmail.com info:https://federaladamsfamily.com/developer This message is signed with a certificate and-or PGP key. Disregard any unverified messages from this address. === smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
just a heads up to anyone whos trying to do this to a quicksilver 2001. ***DONT DO IT*** i just fried my G4 867mhz quicksilver by trying this with a 9600XT graphics card (mac G5 OEM card) the power supply is completely fried and will not power up. its not worth it. just keep using the thing with a geforce2 or geforce 4 card bettr to have a working computer then a dead one. i really wish i hadnt tried this -- thanks to all the morons who posted that this worked great because it doesnt..dont try this u will fry your power supply AND/OR the logic board nowhere else will u read that there is a risk of that. i would never have tried it if i knew there was even a remote possibility that i could fry the power supply. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
On Jan 25, 2014, at 5:49 AM, Chris Nova chrisnova...@gmail.com wrote: just a heads up to anyone whos trying to do this to a quicksilver 2001. ***DONT DO IT*** i just fried my G4 867mhz quicksilver by trying this with a 9600XT graphics card (mac G5 OEM card) the power supply is completely fried and will not power up. its not worth it. just keep using the thing with a geforce2 or geforce 4 card bettr to have a working computer then a dead one. i really wish i hadnt tried this -- thanks to all the morons who posted that this worked great because it doesnt..dont try this u will fry your power supply AND/OR the logic board nowhere else will u read that there is a risk of that. i would never have tried it if i knew there was even a remote possibility that i could fry the power supply. There’s a hack for adapting an standard PC ATX power supply into G4s, might be cheaper and safer (no 28v line for ADC) if you’re going to try your 9600XT again (assuming it’s not fried also?). Google “G4 ATX” and you can find lots of info for either modding yourself, or buying something. Many people that have posted success with the method of modifying pins 3 11 for using AGPx8 cards in AGPx4 Macs. You’re the first person I’ve ever heard of that fried a power supply. I suspect your modification of pins 3 11 wasn’t quite correct. You need to pay very close attention to details when modding computers, any small mistake can be very costly, as you’ve learned. G4 values aren’t very much these days, so it’s not a great loss. I’d move on to something Intel that can run current Mac software. You can probably setup a Mavericks 10.9 compatible hackintosh PC for $100 or $150 total if you buy used. I’d forget about the G4 as “lesson learned and upgrade to something Intel. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
OT-ManIntel Group assistance
Hi Gang, Don't know about you, but if I want to get ignored, I post a note on the MacIntel group. The G-Group is always good to respond, so… can someone perhaps tell me who the List nanny is for the MacIntel group and I can reach them to find out why I never get a response and my posts, well, don't post? If you'll permit a one-generation-off emergency query, I can ask a quick question that I posted on the MacIntel last note that got subsequently ignored: Is a SATA III hard drive compatible with a 2006 (non-unibody) 17 Macbook Pro? Many thanks in advance, Dana -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT-ManIntel Group assistance
You will have no issue with a SATA III drive. Good luck! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT-ManIntel Group assistance
Thank you, Alex. Appreciate the confirm. Regards, Dana On 1/25/14 3:27 PM, Alex Sciortino of zeosr...@gmail.com sent You will have no issue with a SATA III drive. Good luck! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT-ManIntel Group assistance
No problem! Happy to help! On Jan 25, 2014 1:51 PM, Dana Collins dlcatft...@frontier.com wrote: Thank you, Alex. Appreciate the confirm. Regards, Dana On 1/25/14 3:27 PM, Alex Sciortino of zeosr...@gmail.com sent You will have no issue with a SATA III drive. Good luck! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT-ManIntel Group assistance
It is compatible, it will just operate at SATA I speed. On 1/25/14, 2:19 PM, DLC wrote: Hi Gang, Don't know about you, but if I want to get ignored, I post a note on the MacIntel group. The G-Group is always good to respond, so… can someone perhaps tell me who the List nanny is for the MacIntel group and I can reach them to find out why I never get a response and my posts, well, don't post? If you'll permit a one-generation-off emergency query, I can ask a quick question that I posted on the MacIntel last note that got subsequently ignored: Is a SATA III hard drive compatible with a 2006 (non-unibody) 17 Macbook Pro? Many thanks in advance, Dana -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: OT-ManIntel Group assistance
On Jan 25, 2014, at 11:19 AM, DLC wrote: Don't know about you, but if I want to get ignored, I post a note on the MacIntel group. The G-Group is always good to respond, so… can someone perhaps tell me who the List nanny is for the MacIntel group and I can reach them to find out why I never get a response and my posts, well, don't post? At the risk of extending the above OT message .. As a long-time subscriber to numerous LEM Groups (Lists), I am constantly reminded that the management of these Groups is at the convenience and discretion of the Group Owner (List Mom) and the volunteer Group Managers (List Nannies), all of whom have their own lives, careers, needs, problems, and of course daily schedules. I do not believe that any Group Manager is in the business of ensuring responses to inquiries for assistance. Anyone who is dissatisfied somehow and expects, or even demands, instant service for his posts may wish to read the recent article by the Owner of all LEM Groups: http://lowendmac.com/2013/how-you-can-support-low-end-mac/ By the way, even though all LEM Groups have become relatively inactive, there is a MacBook Group specifically for discussions about hardware issues of MacBooks and MacBook Pros. Fabian -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
On Jan 24, 2014, at 16:42 , smac0031 wrote: I have made some progress on the DA G4. I replaced the battery and zapped the pram which made no difference. I disconnected all usb devices except the keyboard and a Logitech trackball and tried shutting down which also made no difference. Parenthetical: Until your shutdown problem is solved, you'll want to use the following method each time, since a 'cold' shutdown (power-button or plug-pulling) will eventually cause more trouble... then open the Terminal app and type: sudo shutdown -h now (then type return, then your password when asked) That should always work, unless something is really wrong. I tried creating a new user, but that doesn't come up when it boots up. I presume therefore that you have the 'automatic login' option on, and you need to turn that off for now. Boot, go to the Accounts preference pane in the system preferences, click on the Login Options button at the bottom of the list of users, then turn that setting off. Shutdown, then boot. You should be presented with list of users, or name and password boxes. Don't bother with that, just click on the shutdown button in the lower left-hand corner. If that shuts down, then report back here. If you still can't shut down..., Try disconnecting everything, including the USB Card, USB Hub, scanner (s), network drives, - except the boot drive, the monitor, and the mouse then boot - then shut down (from the Apple menu). If that works then the problem is with one of the peripherals. ( and yes I did purposefully omit the keyboard -- sometimes even a keyboard can cause trouble ). If that does not work, repeat, but without the mouse/trackball and with the keyboard connected instead. If that still doesn't work, then: repeat minimal setup above - booting, then shutdown (Terminal method noted above). restart, go to the Console app, select the system.log, scroll back to the Copyright notice (which will look something like: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993), then select and copy the 30 or so lines previous to (above) that and paste them into a reply here on the list. That way we can maybe get a better clue. Manoah F. Adams mhfad...@gmail.com This message is signed with a certificate and-or PGP key. Disregard any unverified messages from this address. === smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 4 Messages in 2 Topics
- DA G4 will not shut down #143c9065cd6ec511_group_thread_0 Additional cards are known to cause problems to sleep feature I have the same problem, my MMD dual 1.25 running Tiger won't sleep either. When I put it to sleep it crashes and when I try to restart my MDD doesn't know me anymore although I'm admin and the only user. I have to reboot from a recently cloned drive, the only solution. In my case it's an old M-Audio soundcard, I like it even though it has shoddy drivers ... Good luck! -- Per aspera ad astra. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
I pulled the USB 2.0 card. No difference. It quits the finder leaving the desktop picture up. It is an NEC card 1030 is on it (Without my glasses) It has six ports, 5 external 1 internal. What does this sudo shutdown -h now command do. The terminal tells the Mac to shutdown? Mark Murphy On Monday, January 13, 2014 11:18:24 PM UTC-5, smac0031 wrote: My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. Mark Murphy -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
On Jan 25, 2014, at 17:32 , smac0031 wrote: What does this sudo shutdown -h now command do. The terminal tells the Mac to shutdown? In short, yes. Using the terminal gives you more flexibility in issuing commands (only the daily, typical things are given a menu or button some place.). The shutdown - h now part is roughly the same as choosing Shut Down from the Apple menu... but the sudo part is the crucial difference ... it does the shut down under the auspices of the super user (a.k.a. Root user, or in this case Admin user), (which is why it asks for your password again). The shut down process of the machine involves an ordered closing up / quitting, in roughly reverse order to the start up process. By running shutdown as root user, no program (including the many invisible ones) can refuse to quit and thus hold up the shutting down. Of course this isn't a solution to your problem, but it will help prevent further damage -- doing a 'cold' shutdown (by pulling the plug or holding down the power button until it goes dark) is really hard on the system... lost settings, and corrupted filesystems often result. In fact, it should be standard procedure after every cold shutdown to open the Disk Utility and do a Repair or at least a Verify on all disks that were connected at the time you turned off the machine. By the way, the advice others have given on removing third-party (non Apple) cards, and on starting in Single User mode are right on point and should be followed. Manoah F. Adams This message is signed with a certificate and-or PGP key. Disregard any unverified messages from this address. === smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Web sites suddenly blocked
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:37:36 PM UTC-4, Sky King wrote: I came home from a trip, turned on my computer, and found that I am now blocked from certain favorite web sites. I am taken to a page at www.blocked-website.com which tells me, for example, Sorry, but (site) is blocked on this network. This site was categorized in (category). Contact your network administrator. Underneath this message it says Powered by OpenDNS. OpenDNS appears to be legitimate, offering parental controls, but there are no children in this household, and I do not use their services. There are only two computers in the house, my Mac and my wife's PC, both connected to the Internet via a router. Neither have parental controls activated. I contacted my provider, Verizon, and they maintain that nothing has changed with them and that the problem is in my computer. Computer is a dual 1.25 GHz MDD PowerPC G4 running OSX 10.5.8. Browser is Safari 5.0.6. What goes on here? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX This also happened to me on my iPad Air with iOS 7. And I couldn't access my Facebook page via the browser and I remembered this started happening the second I allowed the scrabble Facebook game access to my profile. So luckily I had the Facebook app and was able to access just enough of my account to delete the scrabble game from my security settings. Which thankfully gave me access to my account via browser once more. Needless to say be very careful what you allow to access your accounts on the internet as there are those site out there that will shut you down to gain access of your information. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
I have made some progress on the DA G4. I replaced the battery and zapped the pram which made no difference. I disconnected all usb devices except the keyboard and a Logitech trackball and tried shutting down which also made no difference. The DA G4 quits the finder and the desktop picture remains and it just hangs, which is what has been doing whenever I try to quit. I have a DA G4 running 10.4.11. It has a 1.6 MHz PPC processor. I also have a GoFlex Nas drive which might be causing the problem. I tried creating a new user, but that doesn't come up when it boots up. It does on my G5, but I am the only person that uses this thing and i don't have much experience logging on with other users. I downloaded AppleJack but I haven't installed it. Terminal stuff makes me nervous. I have a 5 port Usb 2.0 card in it. I have a powered 2.0 hub and a 2.0 scanner and Brother HL-1440 printer and another 500mg GoFlex portable drive which is different from the Nas drive. I tried powering the portable GoFlex drive through the hub and it wouldn't go so I plugged it back into the USB card. Normally, I leave the GoFlex cradle plugged into the USB card but I leave the drive out because I only use it for backup. Nevertheless, with no USB stuff connected except the keyboard and the trackball into the stock G4 USB port it wouldn't shut down. So, progress amounts to eliminating a bunch of stuff and the computer still won't shut down. Rarely, something happens with the USB something and the computer will quit all by itself. This usually, involves waking and it quits. When this happens the clock and date get screwed up, but because it's set to look up the date and time it fixes itself within a minute or two, but it does mean it needed a new battery. Now its got one. If anyone has ideas it would be helpful. Mark Murphy On Monday, January 13, 2014 11:18:24 PM UTC-5, smac0031 wrote: My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. Mark Murphy -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
Il giorno 25/01/14 01.42, smac0031 ha scritto: I disconnected all usb devices except the keyboard and a Logitech trackball and tried shutting down which also made no difference. Try with just a standard keyboard and mouse (better if Apple). The trackball is unusual and could be troublesome (unlikely but not impossible). I have a 5 port Usb 2.0 card in it. For the love of God ;-) try removing it! That could just be your culprit. Additional cards are known to cause problems to sleep feature, and maybe it's interfering with your shutdown as well. And it may happen even without any device connected to it (the card would still be interacting with the system). Rarely, something happens with the USB something and the computer will quit all by itself. This very likely points to the USB subsystem - starting with the USB card. Is it a Mac-compatible card, or just a regular PC (Windows) card? If the latter, it's likely its behavior is flaky: I had more than one working just temporarily, or partially. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
On Jan 24, 2014, at 5:42 PM, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.commailto:m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 5 port Usb 2.0 card in it. Ding Ding Ding! These are infamous for causing sleep and shutdown issues. Pull it out and see what happens. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
At 3:31 PM -0500 01/20/2014, Jay Koutavas wrote: At 11:32 AM -0800 1/20/14, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry. Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+? No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. Eudora 6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. Thus, Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only. Good point. But there are quite a few bugs in Eudora that manifest themselves annoyingly often. A full featured and debugged version of Eudora that runs on x86/OS X 10.6 and newer would be a much better received product. Time and again, people have cited to me two giant stumbling blocks as their reason for not updating to OS X 10.7+. 1) loss of AppleWorks. 2) loss of Eudora *and* their hatred for all the other email clients they've tried. So, I'd love to have a real Eudora-type client for newer OS X. I wonder what legal issues there be? afaik, Qualcomm owns Eudora and doesn't play well with others. I believe it has only licensed Eudora's interface and such to the Mozilla Foundation, for the Penelope project - because that project is driven (although maybe dead now) by the original Eudora developer, ?Steve Dorner?. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope fwiw, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
I used Eudora mail a long time ago, it was just the best. Then I changed to Apple Mail since it was integrated into the Mac OSX operating system. I was Okay with it until OSX 9.x.x it was a mess, then OSX 10.1.x and not it is the worst client eMail around. Like the other responders I would use Eudora again and be so pleased. Cheers Harry in San Jose, Ca On Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:23:21 PM UTC-7, benjee wrote: We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are still looking for a true Eudora replacement: Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora -- Sent from my HP Pre3 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
I don't see that this thread has actually been moved to the MacIntel group yet ... still awaiting my subscription to kick in. Eudora 6.2.4 behaves well enough under OSX 10.6.8 that I continue to use it day in and day out. It is *one* of the reasons that Snow Leopard is the OS I'm stopping at unless and until I cannot get hardware that supports it, and what I have becomes irreparable. Apple has essentially lost me as a computer customer. Guy -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
On Jan 21, 2014, at 11:00 AM, Guy Plunkett III wrote: I don't see that this thread has actually been moved to the MacIntel group yet ... still awaiting my subscription to kick in. Please be reminded that LEM Group Managers occasionally close down off-topic threads, but we do not move threads. In my recent Manager Comment, I stated that I asked the OP to move the thread. It now appears that he subscribed to the G-Group only two days ago for the sole purpose of initiating this thread. Anyone who is interested in further discussions about Eudora replacement for Intel Macs, or other appropriate topics, can always start a new thread at the MacIntel Group, without waiting for this OP. Fabian Fang LEM G-Group Manager -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
Wonderful, Jay! I've been using Eudora since Apple ][c with handbuilt 1200/75 modem, and will stick with OS 10.6.8 until Eudora surfaces in a Mavericks or greater, version. I too, would be happy to pay, and beta test! Best wishes, James Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering... How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000? Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page. I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro software developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number of times over, including a Mac email client a lng time ago for Digital Equipment Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement. It would take EASILY over a year for me to do it. If I did do it, I'd stick to keeping the same workflow and features, and simply just Freshen-up the look and feel (but not change it like MailForge did). Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open source, because I love Eudora mail and want it to live on indefinitely. On Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:13:47 AM UTC-4, benjee wrote: We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they are still in beta. Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need a true Eudora replacement. -- Sent from my HP Pre3 On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar javascript:sbo...@gci.net wrote: On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, javascript:ben...@gmail.com wrote: We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are still looking for a true Eudora replacement: Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudoraHttp://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora -- Sent from my HP Pre3 What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora. I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to javascript:g3-5...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
Hi Doug. At 9:50 PM -0700 1/19/14, Doug McNutt wrote: 1) You need to become acquainted with : Reply-To: Eudora for the Mac eudora-...@hades.listmoms.net List-ID: Eudora for the Mac eudora-mac.cartel.listmoms.net Okay. 2) There are two different problems with Eudora. Email has changed and Apple wants iOS and OS-neXt to be written in X-code and objective C. Of course, I've been using Objective C with Xcode since 2003. Been a C++ coder since the early 90s, and a C coder since the mid 80s. The whole concept of email has changed and Eudora won't be Eudora anymore if it is rewritten to handle IMAP and HTML the way other mail clients do. As I said in my post, I'm staying feature compatible with current Eudora (no IMAP), perhaps a better use of the WebKit though, current Mac Eudora 6.2 HTML support running on OS X 10.6.8 is buggy and slow. Rewriting Eudora to compile in a newer Macintosh environment may be nearly impossible. It would be easier if the source code were available but it's not because of some patent issues with the search find parts of the code. Qualcomm says it can't release that because of a previous purchase agreement. I would rewrite the UI in Objective C from scratch and the backend in C/C++ portable code. I've done this enough times that the block diagram is easily realized. 3) I'm using Eudora 5 on this OS 9.1 Mac 8500 and I find it very useful in the modern mail system. HTTP and IMAP just don't work. By refusing to read HTML and refusing to use a host that demands IMAP I find my spam problems a whole lot easier. Folks who want to talk soon get the idea. I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry. 4) What I'd really like to see is a version of Eudora that works in Linux with open source code. I might have some time to help with that. Most of the things I want could be done with perl which would be somewhat platform independent. -- A Linux UI layer is possible. It can be done in any language, but the back-end would be in C/C++ if I did this project. /Jay -- --- Jay Koutavas mailto:j...@heynow.com Heynow Software http://www.heynow.com Windham, New Hampshire, USA --- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
On Sunday, January 19, 2014 7:51:37 AM UTC-6, Jay Koutavas wrote: Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering... How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000? I would love to see a modern email client which mimics Eudora. I've been using it since version 2.0. Default insertion points after quoted text. :-) Jeff Walther -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry. Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+? -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- If the French were really intelligent, they'd speak English. -- W. Sheed --- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
At 11:32 AM -0800 1/20/14, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry. Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+? No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. Eudora 6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. Thus, Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only. /Jay -- --- Jay Koutavas mailto:j...@heynow.com Heynow Software http://www.heynow.com Windham, New Hampshire, USA --- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry. Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+? No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. Eudora 6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. Thus, Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only. Then, politely, why is this being discussed on a PowerPC mailing list if we're not the intended audience? Meanwhile, Tenfourbird works very well for my purposes when I need an PPC OS X mail client (I am not the author, although they do use the patches from TenFourFox as a basis). -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Remember, kids: for great justice take off every zig! -- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[Manager Comment] Re: Eudora replacement
On Jan 20, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I won't be supporting OS 9.1, sorry. Would you support PowerPC, preferably 10.4+? No. The whole point of this exercise would be to move past PPC, so Redora (redone Eudora) could run on Mac OS X 10.7 and later. Eudora 6.2 PPC runs fine on Mac OS 10.6.8, but breaks on 10.7+. Thus, Redora would be targeted for 10.7 and later, Intel only. Then, politely, why is this being discussed on a PowerPC mailing list if we're not the intended audience? I have already asked the OP to move this thread to the LEM MacIntel Group. Fabian Fang LEM G-Group Manager -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering... How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000? Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page. I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro software developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number of times over, including a Mac email client a lng time ago for Digital Equipment Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement. It would take EASILY over a year for me to do it. If I did do it, I'd stick to keeping the same workflow and features, and simply just Freshen-up the look and feel (but not change it like MailForge did). Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open source, because I love Eudora mail and want it to live on indefinitely. On Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:13:47 AM UTC-4, benjee wrote: We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they are still in beta. Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need a true Eudora replacement. -- Sent from my HP Pre3 -- On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar sbo...@gci.net javascript: wrote: On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are still looking for a true Eudora replacement: Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora -- Sent from my HP Pre3 What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora. I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5...@googlegroups.comjavascript: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
I used and enjoyed Eudora for many years and would absolutly use it as my main email client. I am not a programmer but would be willing to help. Beta test? On Jan 19, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jay Koutavas wrote: Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering... How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000? Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page. I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro software developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number of times over, including a Mac email client a lng time ago for Digital Equipment Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement. It would take EASILY over a year for me to do it. If I did do it, I'd stick to keeping the same workflow and features, and simply just Freshen-up the look and feel (but not change it like MailForge did). Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open source, because I love Eudora mail and want it to live on indefinitely. On Sunday, July 22, 2012 9:13:47 AM UTC-4, benjee wrote: We thought that MailForge could fill the gap, but after 5 years they are still in beta. Why FB? I think it is a good tool to get figure out how many really need a true Eudora replacement. -- Sent from my HP Pre3 On 22 Jul 2012 13.57, Stephen E. Bodnar sbo...@gci.net wrote: On 7/21/12 10:23 PM, ben...@gmail.com wrote: We have set up a Facebook page to discuss and to see how many of us are still looking for a true Eudora replacement: Http://www.facebook.com/WeWantEudora -- Sent from my HP Pre3 What if you don't do Facebook? I'm in the market for a new email client, and would LOVE to see a reincarnation of Eudora. I used the Eudora - Thunderbird add-on for a while, but things got a bit squirrely when Thunderbird started the forced update cycle. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
Thank you, Jay! I've used Eudora since first getting an email account in the days of 48k modems and well before appleisp.net became themacisp.net. I'm currently using Eudora 6.2.4 on a 2009 MacBook Pro 17 and it is the main reason I have not upgraded this machine further than OS 10.6.8. I have eagerly followed threads in this group and others concerning Eudora replacements for OS 10.7 and above with great interest and am finally both eager and excited to know that someone may be willing to give re-coding Eudora a try. I would pay for a Eudora replacement, or provide a substantial sum for donationware. To hear that it would be open-source is pretty incredible and very much appreciated. If this project is to be taken on, my recommendation is that it be initiated as soon as possible. Thanks again! -- Bill Bunny Kuhlman -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Eudora replacement
At 5:51 -0800 1/19/14, Jay Koutavas wrote: Now that MailForge is dead, I've been pondering... How many people would be interested in a faithful reproduction of Mac Eudora 6.2? 10? 100?, 1000? Probably 100, by the likes of the FB page. I use Mac Eudora v6.2 every day, since the mid 90s. I'm a pro software developer. I have built stuff of this complexity a number of times over, including a Mac email client a lng time ago for Digital Equipment Corporation. It's not easy to build a replacement. It would take EASILY over a year for me to do it. If I did do it, I'd stick to keeping the same workflow and features, and simply just Freshen-up the look and feel (but not change it like MailForge did). Thoughts, comments? Collaborators? -- I'd do this project open source, because I love Eudora mail and want it to live on indefinitely. 1) You need to become acquainted with : Reply-To: Eudora for the Mac eudora-...@hades.listmoms.net List-ID: Eudora for the Mac eudora-mac.cartel.listmoms.net 2) There are two different problems with Eudora. Email has changed and Apple wants iOS and OS-neXt to be written in X-code and objective C. The whole concept of email has changed and Eudora won't be Eudora anymore if it is rewritten to handle IMAP and HTML the way other mail clients do. Rewriting Eudora to compile in a newer Macintosh environment may be nearly impossible. It would be easier if the source code were available but it's not because of some patent issues with the search find parts of the code. Qualcomm says it can't release that because of a previous purchase agreement. 3) I'm using Eudora 5 on this OS 9.1 Mac 8500 and I find it very useful in the modern mail system. HTTP and IMAP just don't work. By refusing to read HTML and refusing to use a host that demands IMAP I find my spam problems a whole lot easier. Folks who want to talk soon get the idea. 4) What I'd really like to see is a version of Eudora that works in Linux with open source code. I might have some time to help with that. Most of the things I want could be done with perl which would be somewhat platform independent. -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
Title: Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4 Thanks, Bruce, Alex, and Kris for your suggestions. Followup report so far: 1. Console does not say anything when I try to put the computer to sleep. When I do that using the keyboard power button and selecting Sleep in the dialogue box, the dialogue box disappears but nothing further happens. 2. I think that FireWire on the Mini and on the external drive may both be kaput. I plugged the external drive into a Mac Pro and it did not show up. I also plugged a different external drive into the Mini and it did not show up (does show up on the Mac Pro). 3. I did a safe boot and reinstalled the OS 10.4.11 combo updater; did not resolve the problem. Next move I think will be to back up my files (via USB or Ethernet), erase the HD, and re-install the OS. If all else fails, I will take Bruce's suggestion and delete the FW driver so at least the computer will sleep. Or maybe I will do that now. It is a PITA to have to shut the machine down all the time. Herb Goodfriend FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4 Herbert Goodfriend bon...@mailforce.net Jan 15 09:55PM -0500 I have a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz running MacOS 10.4.11. A few days ago, two problems started: 1. The machine would not go to sleep. Neither pressing power button, nor selecting Sleep in Apple menu, nor using keyboard power button (dialogue box appears, but selecting Sleep does nothing. The machine can be shut down or restarted. 2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is connected via FireWire. Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. then FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max speeds 100. Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed out, and the information panel that appears when pressing the i button says FireWire Not Available. Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the sleep issue and the FireWire issue? Thanks. Herb Goodfriend Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com Jan 15 08:02PM -0700 What does it say in console around when you try to go to sleep? Ð Alex Sciortino http://windows8sales.com/ Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Jan 16 04:29AM Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed out, and the information panel that appears when pressing the i button says FireWire Not Available. Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the sleep issue and the FireWire issue? I had a G4 powerbook that had burned out FW chip (as in small melted hole in the circuit board!). It wouldn't sleep, and had similar entries in the console. What I did to allow it to sleep was to remove the FW driver from the /System/Library/Extensions folder. Firewire didn't work, but everything else did. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Jan 15 10:49PM -0600 then FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max speeds 100. Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. I used to boot old Macs via Firewire external drives, I've seen most problems. Where the verbose dialog says "max speeds 100" it should say "max speeds 400" if things are working right. The times I've had a "100 vs 400" issue it turned out to be System software related if I remember correctly. I'm not sure what I did to fix it, but doing a "Safe Boot" (Shift key at boot) followed by a reinstall of the "10.4.11 PPC Combo Update" couldn't hurt anything, and may fix the issue. If you boot in verbose mode (Cmd-v keys held at boot) and see it say "max speed 400" when no Firewire devices are attached, this theoretically means it's working now as it should, problem hopefully fixed? If it's a hardware issue, it could be a problem with the external Firewire enclosure, when a Firewire bridge board (the circuitry in the external enclosure that adapts Firewire-to-ATA) goes bad, it can cause issues with the Firewire ports on the Mac itself. I don't think it's likely this problem is hardware on the Mac itself. If the external enclosure has multiple Firewire ports, try a different port with the cable, sometimes single ports go bad. If you attach the external, and it doesn't show up again, I believe you'll need a new external HD enclosure, or new HD itself within the enclosure. You can check the enclosure on another computer to see if it mounts. In rare circumstances bad enclosures can kill Firewire ports on computers permanently, so it's probably best to troubleshoot your Mini first, and if the Firewire port on the Mini can be confirmed to still function normally, only then try troubleshooting the enclosure on the Mini or another computer. If the
Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
Boot the Mac in Target Disk mode and plug it into the Mac Pro. If it is detected, firewire is functional. If not, it is dead and you need to remove the kext. -- Alex Sciortino http://windows8sales.com/ From: Herbert Goodfriend bon...@mailforce.net Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014 at 8:14 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4 Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4 Thanks, Bruce, Alex, and Kris for your suggestions. Followup report so far: 1. Console does not say anything when I try to put the computer to sleep. When I do that using the keyboard power button and selecting Sleep in the dialogue box, the dialogue box disappears but nothing further happens. 2. I think that FireWire on the Mini and on the external drive may both be kaput. I plugged the external drive into a Mac Pro and it did not show up. I also plugged a different external drive into the Mini and it did not show up (does show up on the Mac Pro). 3. I did a safe boot and reinstalled the OS 10.4.11 combo updater; did not resolve the problem. Next move I think will be to back up my files (via USB or Ethernet), erase the HD, and re-install the OS. If all else fails, I will take Bruce's suggestion and delete the FW driver so at least the computer will sleep. Or maybe I will do that now. It is a PITA to have to shut the machine down all the time. Herb Goodfriend FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4 http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/t/744b1f98d0487689 * Herbert Goodfriend bon...@mailforce.net Jan 15 09:55PM -0500 * * I have a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz running MacOS 10.4.11. * * A few days ago, two problems started: * * 1. The machine would not go to sleep. Neither pressing power button, * nor selecting Sleep in Apple menu, nor using keyboard power button * (dialogue box appears, but selecting Sleep does nothing. The machine * can be shut down or restarted. * * 2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is * connected via FireWire. * * Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: * * FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. * * then * * FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff * fed33758; max speeds 100. * * Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. * * Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed * out, and the information panel that appears when pressing the i * button says FireWire Not Available. * * Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the * sleep issue and the FireWire issue? * * Thanks. * * Herb Goodfriend * Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com Jan 15 08:02PM -0700 * * What does it say in console around when you try to go to sleep? * * Ð Alex Sciortino * http://windows8sales.com/ * * * * * * * Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Jan 16 04:29AM * * * Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. * * Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed out, and the information panel that appears when pressing the i button says FireWire Not Available. * * Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the sleep issue and the FireWire issue? * * I had a G4 powerbook that had burned out FW chip (as in small melted hole in the circuit board!). It wouldn't sleep, and had similar entries in the console. * * What I did to allow it to sleep was to remove the FW driver from the /System/Library/Extensions folder. Firewire didn't work, but everything else did. * * -- * Bruce Johnson * * Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD * Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Jan 15 10:49PM -0600 * * * then * * FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max speeds 100. * * Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. * * I used to boot old Macs via Firewire external drives, I've seen most problems. Where the verbose dialog says max speeds 100 it should say max speeds 400 if things are working right. The times I've had a 100 vs 400 issue it turned out to be System software related if I remember correctly. I'm not sure what I did to fix it, but doing a Safe Boot (Shift key at boot) followed by a reinstall of the 10.4.11 PPC Combo Update couldn't hurt anything, and may fix the issue. If you boot in verbose mode (Cmd-v keys held at boot) and see it say max speed 400 when no Firewire devices are attached, this theoretically means it's working now as it should, problem hopefully fixed? * * If it's a hardware issue, it could be a problem with the external Firewire enclosure, when a Firewire bridge board (the circuitry in the external enclosure that adapts Firewire-to-ATA) goes bad, it can cause issues with the Firewire ports on the Mac
no fast internet on my g-macs?
hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina Hi /Tina, Are we talking wired or wireless connections. If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes to your router. That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both machines will trottle at the same speed. If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good. I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router. Cheers -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Do you have the same problem on the PowerBook if you take it to a friends house? If it is fine there, it is the router, if not, it is your machines. ‹ Alex Sciortino http://windows8sales.com/ On 1/17/14, 6:55 AM, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina Hi /Tina, Are we talking wired or wireless connections. If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes to your router. That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both machines will trottle at the same speed. If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good. I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router. Cheers -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
At 2:26 PM +0100 01/17/2014, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange Those Macs are certainly capable of doing much better. By example, both my 300-MHz Smurf (G3; Tiger) and 933-MHz QuickSilver (G4; Leopard) can easily peg our fiber service (at various times our Verizon FiOS service has been 15, 30, and 50 Mbps -- depends on how cheap we feel). And when talking to a SmartStor NAS on our LAN (GigE switch), they frequently do 80%+ of their ethernet speeds. (The Smurf is 100Mb and the QS is gigE). Are you using a wired or wifi connection to your home router? Switches involved? How exactly are you determining can't get more than 14 Mbit? Are you sure that those aformentioned Windoze machines aren't sucking up the bandwidth? ... I get terrible speedtest results when my housemate's peecee is all infected (he swamps the router with open ports talking to Russian sites, filling its NAT table) or streaming high def vid, etc. Have you run some traceroutes, to make sure the path between you and your target is clear? See Nesta's reply... that both Macs get the same throughput could be telling. Check the router and any local switch between you and it... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
Den Fredag, 17/1 2014, 02:55, Nestamicky skrev: On 14-01-17 6:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hi all, I can't get more than 14 Mbit from my 50 Mbit connection the line is tested with two different windows machines that get the 50 Mbit fine my 17 powerbook g4 ti running 10.4.11, and my husbands white g5 imac running 10.5.8 both get only 14 Mbit the powerbook has a 10/100 ethernet card and it is set to full duplex I find this soo strange any ideas out there? tia /tina Hi /Tina, Are we talking wired or wireless connections. If wireless, would you consider resetting your wireless network settings, including keychains? This is presuming you made recent changes to your router. That the speed on both machines is the same, would suggest that the issue, the bottleneck is on your router. It's indeed strange that both machines will trottle at the same speed. If you have another router at home, I'd suggest you dig that out and try it. Alternatively, if you can bypass your router, that might be good. I'm willing to wager a few krone that the problem is the router. Cheers hello again, I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net - they all use the ookla-thingy it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs - haven't tried them outside the house also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would almost fly, but it doesn't just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600 KB... the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new windows laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested 14/11, and it's been like that ever since yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26 I'm so disappointed :-( tia /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
On Jan 17, 2014, at 11:13 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: hello again, I see I forgot to mention that all tests were done wired directly to the box on the wall and at one of those online places like speedtest.net - they all use the ookla-thingy it's consistent, I never ever get more than 14 mbit on both macs - haven't tried them outside the house also, as I went from a 6/6 connection, I expected that everything would almost fly, but it doesn't just checked at download from macupdate right now, which ran at some 600 KB... the tech guy who installed the fiber tested 50/50 on his brand new windows laptop, and seconds after he left, I plugged the powerbook in and tested 14/11, and it's been like that ever since yesterday a friend with an older windows laptop tested 50/26 I'm so disappointed :-( What speed does the router talk to your Mac at? It will be (probably) 100mbit or even gigabit Ethernet. You might have some communications issues between the router and the mac. You can go to System prefs Networking and in the advanced section of the ethernet, Look in the Hardware tab (may be different in 10.4 and 10.5, but on my system it has the following: Configure: Manually or Automatically Speed: Autoselect, 10baseT, 100baseT, 1000BaseT Duplex: Full-duplex, full-duplex Flow Control, maybe Half-duplex (mine doesn’t show that, but it may not be relevant under gigabit) MTU: Standard or Çustom. You might be having issues with speed and duplexing. Try setting those manually. Supposedly there are ways to set your MTU for better performance with specific networking setups, and you might be able to fix something like that, but I don’t have any direct experience. But hey, you’re paying for this service, and you’re not getting it, get them in to see what’s happening with your equipment, and don’t take ‘Oh it’s a Mac’ for an answer. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no fast internet on my g-macs?
On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:26 AM, t...@nehaia.dk wrote: any ideas out there? This article has some info on tweaking OS X network connections: http://rolande.wordpress.com/2010/12/30/performance-tuning-the-network-stack-on-mac-osx-10-6/ In the link to the older Wayback Machine archive, they’re specifically talking about older PPC Macs running 10.4 10.5, and there seems to be a limitation under default settings that’s near your 14 Mbps limit. By adjusting two parameter settings they up it to 35 Mbps. I remember when I was running PPC Macs I always used some Terminal script to optimize my network settings and it really had a large effect. I can’t remember the name of what I used, but it worked. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Anybody needs ASD 2.5.8?
Could you send or upload a disk image? On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it wrote: I used a G5 for a couple years, and I have been looking for ASD (Apple Service Diagnostics) for a long time, with no success. (it's needed for testing and tuning the G5, e.g. for calibrating fan speeds) Confirming a classic Murphy law :-D as soon as I got rid of the G5, I found ASD 2.5.8! Oh well. I'm reporting it here, just in case someone is still looking for it. If interested, mail me in private. If this topic is forbidden (but I don't think so, since Apple stopped giving a damn about G5s long ago), I apologize -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com wrote: Not necessarily. Sometimes an Archive and Install can solve many issues. Just because it is a Mac does not mean system files cannot get corrupted. ‹ Alex Sciortino http://windows8sales.com/ Sometimes it can, but if the issue is something in the user’s settings an AR will simply not work. First thing to do, which I forgot, is to log in as a different user (create a new user in the System Preferences/ user Accounts pane, reboot and log in as that user. If the problem persists, it’s something to do with system-side settings or hardware. If the problem goes away, it’s something to do with something in the affected user’s settings or other things running. This should be the very first go-to diagnostic, because the decision paths after this initial fork are very different. MOST of the time I’ve seen this particular problem (including when I've experienced it myself) the problem lies with some connected device malfunctioning. You’ll see a long string of USB or Firewire errors in the system log in this case. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
At 8:18 PM -0800 01/13/2014, smac0031 wrote: My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. And you jinxed my QuickSilver! It too started hanging on shutdown. A quick look at the system log, and confirmed by Activity Monitor, showed that Splotchlight had a repeating death grip on one of my external USB drives... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: PowerMac G5 Dual 2.5 Boot Issue
At 11:55 PM -0700 01/13/2014, Alex Sciortino wrote: So, if the machine is restarted or shutdown, it will not boot for 5-6 tries. When it boots, it is fine. The PRAM battery is definitely bad. The LCS did leak, but has been repaired. It idles at 63c, so I am thinking that is is possible that the previous owner who repaired the LCS may of used bad TIM. And the reason you haven't replaced the battery is? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
I have a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz running MacOS 10.4.11. A few days ago, two problems started: 1. The machine would not go to sleep. Neither pressing power button, nor selecting Sleep in Apple menu, nor using keyboard power button (dialogue box appears, but selecting Sleep does nothing. The machine can be shut down or restarted. 2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is connected via FireWire. Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. then FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max speeds 100. Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed out, and the information panel that appears when pressing the i button says FireWire Not Available. Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the sleep issue and the FireWire issue? Thanks. Herb Goodfriend -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
What does it say in console around when you try to go to sleep? ‹ Alex Sciortino http://windows8sales.com/ On 1/15/14, 7:55 PM, Herbert Goodfriend bon...@mailforce.net wrote: I have a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz running MacOS 10.4.11. A few days ago, two problems started: 1. The machine would not go to sleep. Neither pressing power button, nor selecting Sleep in Apple menu, nor using keyboard power button (dialogue box appears, but selecting Sleep does nothing. The machine can be shut down or restarted. 2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is connected via FireWire. Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. then FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max speeds 100. Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed out, and the information panel that appears when pressing the i button says FireWire Not Available. Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the sleep issue and the FireWire issue? Thanks. Herb Goodfriend -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
On Jan 15, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Herbert Goodfriend bon...@mailforce.net wrote: I have a Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz running MacOS 10.4.11. A few days ago, two problems started: 1. The machine would not go to sleep. Neither pressing power button, nor selecting Sleep in Apple menu, nor using keyboard power button (dialogue box appears, but selecting Sleep does nothing. The machine can be shut down or restarted. 2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is connected via FireWire. Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. then FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max speeds 100. Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. Ran TechToolPro and the FireWire test could not be run. It was greyed out, and the information panel that appears when pressing the i button says FireWire Not Available. Any suggestions appreciated. Also is there a connection between the sleep issue and the FireWire issue? I had a G4 powerbook that had burned out FW chip (as in small melted hole in the circuit board!). It wouldn’t sleep, and had similar entries in the console. What I did to allow it to sleep was to remove the FW driver from the /System/Library/Extensions folder. Firewire didn’t work, but everything else did. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: FireWire problem in Mac Mini G4
On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Herbert Goodfriend bon...@mailforce.net wrote: 2. The machine did not recognize its external drive, which is connected via FireWire. Tried booting into single user mode, while booting up shows message: FWOHCI Error trying to clear PHY ports. then FireWire(OHCI) AppleID 31 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fed33758; max speeds 100. Apple System Profiler shows FireWire Bus, but connected device does not show. I used to boot old Macs via Firewire external drives, I’ve seen most problems. Where the verbose dialog says “max speeds 100” it should say “max speeds 400” if things are working right. The times I’ve had a “100 vs 400” issue it turned out to be System software related if I remember correctly. I’m not sure what I did to fix it, but doing a “Safe Boot” (Shift key at boot) followed by a reinstall of the “10.4.11 PPC Combo Update” couldn’t hurt anything, and may fix the issue. If you boot in verbose mode (Cmd-v keys held at boot) and see it say “max speed 400” when no Firewire devices are attached, this theoretically means it’s working now as it should, problem hopefully fixed? If it’s a hardware issue, it could be a problem with the external Firewire enclosure, when a Firewire bridge board (the circuitry in the external enclosure that adapts Firewire-to-ATA) goes bad, it can cause issues with the Firewire ports on the Mac itself. I don’t think it’s likely this problem is hardware on the Mac itself. If the external enclosure has multiple Firewire ports, try a different port with the cable, sometimes single ports go bad. If you attach the external, and it doesn’t show up again, I believe you’ll need a new external HD enclosure, or new HD itself within the enclosure. You can check the enclosure on another computer to see if it mounts. In rare circumstances bad enclosures can kill Firewire ports on computers permanently, so it’s probably best to troubleshoot your Mini first, and if the Firewire port on the Mini can be confirmed to still function normally, only then try troubleshooting the enclosure on the Mini or another computer. If the physical port on the Mac is non-functional, be careful, the enclosure may be bad and kill computers it’s attached to. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:18 PM, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. Malingers is a rather inexact term. What OS Version? Is it stopping with the finder still active? With the desktop background still visible? With a gray screen? Fire up the Console (in Applications/Utilities) to see what's happening at the time of shutdown. Does it happen if you disconnect all usb devices except the keyboard/mouse? Enable verbose boot mode shown here: http://osxdaily.com/2007/03/25/always-boot-mac-os-x-in-verbose-mode/ because that also puts shutdown in verbose mode as well, and is the only way to do it. Re-installing the OS is a windows fix for a Mac problem, and is highly unlikely to work. What might work is booting in safe mode (hold down the shift key while booting) and when it comes back up to the login screen, restart normally. This clears a bunch of caches that could be causing this. Try Applejack for a deeper cleaning http://applejack.sourceforge.net/ -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Anybody needs ASD 2.5.8?
I used a G5 for a couple years, and I have been looking for ASD (Apple Service Diagnostics) for a long time, with no success. (it's needed for testing and tuning the G5, e.g. for calibrating fan speeds) Confirming a classic Murphy law :-D as soon as I got rid of the G5, I found ASD 2.5.8! Oh well. I'm reporting it here, just in case someone is still looking for it. If interested, mail me in private. If this topic is forbidden (but I don't think so, since Apple stopped giving a damn about G5s long ago), I apologize -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
The finder quits but it is still running. It runs 10.4.11. On Monday, January 13, 2014 11:18:24 PM UTC-5, smac0031 wrote: My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. Mark Murphy -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
Not necessarily. Sometimes an Archive and Install can solve many issues. Just because it is a Mac does not mean system files cannot get corrupted. ‹ Alex Sciortino http://windows8sales.com/ On 1/14/14, 7:03 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Re-installing the OS is a windows fix for a Mac problem, and is highly unlikely to work. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
On Jan 15, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com wrote: Not necessarily. Sometimes an Archive and Install can solve many issues. Just because it is a Mac does not mean system files cannot get corrupted. Whoa. There’s a LOT to be done BEFORE an “Archive and Install” is necessary. 1) Zap PRAM reset NVRAM. 2) Safe Boot to rebuild System caches 3) Reinstall the Combo Update. Only after these 3 all fail, would you consider an Archive Install -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
I realize that. That was just in response to Bruce saying that it rarely fixes things. My bets are on the PMU. Reset that and I think it will likely fix it. It is the small tact switch on the logic board. ‹ Alex Sciortino http://windows8sales.com/ From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 at 11:25 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: DA G4 will not shut down On Jan 15, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com wrote: Not necessarily. Sometimes an Archive and Install can solve many issues. Just because it is a Mac does not mean system files cannot get corrupted. Whoa. There¹s a LOT to be done BEFORE an ³Archive and Install² is necessary. 1) Zap PRAM reset NVRAM. 2) Safe Boot to rebuild System caches 3) Reinstall the Combo Update. Only after these 3 all fail, would you consider an Archive Install -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
When you double-click on a music file, you want not iTunes to open and play it, but QuickTime? If this is what you want to do, that's easy: -In the Finder, do Get Info on a file of the concerned type. -There is a section Open with... in there, where you can select the application you want to open it with. -Activate the checkbox Do this with all files of this type before clicking OK. (I'm not at my Mac right now, so it might be slightly different...) An alternative way is to drag the file's icon onto QuickTime's icon (e.g. in the dock) to open it. You didn't write what kind of music file you want to play, or what happens when you try to open iTunes by itself, what messages come up for example. All that is very useful for troubleshooting! Anyway, let us know how it goes. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
On Jan 12, 2014, at 8:14 PM, jonzie mann blaksp...@yahoo.com wrote: itunes doesn't want to open... iTunes version 10.6.3 was the LAST FINAL version of iTunes that runs on a PPC Mac under 10.5.8. Toss your iTunes into the trash, download a new copy of 10.6.3 here: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1575?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US If this won’t open, you’ll need to probably reinstall your OS. Start by doing a Safe Boot to rebuild the cache files, then reboot again normally. Try iTunes. If it still won’t open, reinstall the 10.5.8 Combo Update (first run Disk UtilityVerify Disk (repair if verify fails) and Repair Permissions). If after reinstalling the 10.5.8 Combo Update you STILL can’t open the new iTunes 10.6.3 you’ll have to do a complete OS reinstallation from your install disc. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Quicktime player
Music and Video files in Quicktime but no audio thru computer speakers...tried all settings! Google CvsRadio1 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
DA G4 will not shut down
My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. Mark Murphy -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
PowerMac G5 Dual 2.5 Boot Issue
So, if the machine is restarted or shutdown, it will not boot for 5-6 tries. When it boots, it is fine. The PRAM battery is definitely bad. The LCS did leak, but has been repaired. It idles at 63c, so I am thinking that is is possible that the previous owner who repaired the LCS may of used bad TIM. Thanks! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
Have you tried resetting the PMU? Or reinstalling OS X? My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: DA G4 will not shut down
I had to replace the power button when this happened on one of my PPC Macs On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Alex Sciortino zeosr...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried resetting the PMU? Or reinstalling OS X? My DA G4 doesn't shut down when you select shut down from the menu. It just malingers. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
itunes doesn't want to open...how can i attach quick time player to play all my music instead of itunes or use other compatible player. On Friday, January 10, 2014 10:12 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: That's right, Ten4Fox doesn't support plugins. From their wiki: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported --- [snip] not supported is right, but it can work if you're willing to take the risks This is no longer true for versions 19 and later (i.e., 24.2.0, the most current stable version). never could get java to work in version 7, haven't tried in this version yet Although 17 did have a separate setting for Java, I really don't recommend it; there are a number of drive-by exploits for Java which *will* work on a Power Mac. Flashblock/Flashback even works (the reason it doesn't appear to is only because the payload is x86; the actual exploit succeeds). I wonder if the problem is somewhere else though, installing a new browser shouldn't affect itunes, should it? No, it shouldn't. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- What's another word for thesaurus? - -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Re: Browser g4
At 6:14 PM -0800 1/12/14, regarding Re: Browser g4, jonzie mann e-mailed: itunes doesn't want to open...how can i attach quick time player to play all my music instead of itunes or use other compatible player. These folks have been very helpful to me: iTunes Store Customer Support http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/ww/ On Friday, January 10, 2014 10:12 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: That's right, Ten4Fox doesn't support plugins. From their wiki: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupportedhttp://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported --- [snip] not supported is right, but it can work if you're willing to take the risks This is no longer true for versions 19 and later (i.e., 24.2.0, the most current stable version). never could get java to work in version 7, haven't tried in this version yet Although 17 did have a separate setting for Java, I really don't recommend it; there are a number of drive-by exploits for Java which *will* work on a Power Mac. Flashblock/Flashback even works (the reason it doesn't appear to is only because the payload is x86; the actual exploit succeeds). I wonder if the problem is somewhere else though, installing a new browser shouldn't affect itunes, should it? No, it shouldn't. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * mailto:ckai...@floodgap.comckai...@floodgap.com -- What's another word for thesaurus? - -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.comg3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+mailto:unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-listhttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- HTH, Paul pwseventy...@bresnan.net -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Re: Browser g4
At 6:14 PM -0800 1/12/14, regarding Re: Browser g4, jonzie mann e-mailed: itunes doesn't want to open...how can i attach quick time player to play all my music instead of itunes or use other compatible player. These folks have been very helpful to me: iTunes Store Customer Support http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/ww/ -- HTH, Paul Paul Stamsen paterfami...@gmail.com -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
Den Onsdag, 8/1 2014, 02:12, Geke skrev: Now it seems adobe flash player is the problem. i cant open itunes or play music from G4. That's right, Ten4Fox doesn't support plugins. From their wiki: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported --- [snip] not supported is right, but it can work if you're willing to take the risks I ran the old version, where you could opt in up until about a month ago, but finally had to give in because of an update to a support system that wouldn't let me in so I finally updated to 17.0.11 and was happy to find that the opt in seems to still work just fine, I didn't do anything at all - had some other problems and had to trash a settings file, but that was it it works with both flash and shockwave never could get java to work in version 7, haven't tried in this version yet I wonder if the problem is somewhere else though, installing a new browser shouldn't affect itunes, should it? /tina -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
That's right, Ten4Fox doesn't support plugins. From their wiki: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported --- [snip] not supported is right, but it can work if you're willing to take the risks This is no longer true for versions 19 and later (i.e., 24.2.0, the most current stable version). never could get java to work in version 7, haven't tried in this version yet Although 17 did have a separate setting for Java, I really don't recommend it; there are a number of drive-by exploits for Java which *will* work on a Power Mac. Flashblock/Flashback even works (the reason it doesn't appear to is only because the payload is x86; the actual exploit succeeds). I wonder if the problem is somewhere else though, installing a new browser shouldn't affect itunes, should it? No, it shouldn't. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- What's another word for thesaurus? - -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
Now it seems adobe flash player is the problem. i cant open itunes or play music from G4. That's right, Ten4Fox doesn't support plugins. From their wiki: http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/PluginsNoLongerSupported --- As Mozilla adds more interactive HTML5 features to Firefox, many of these features will appear in 10.4Fx, superseding the need for plugins. --- What can I use to replace Flash and QuickTime right now? There will still be some content you can't view without a Flash plugin in the browser. Some of it can be worked around. - TenFourFox can open some videos in QuickTime Player directly using the QuickTimeEnablerhttp://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/wiki/QuickTimeEnabler. This is compatible with many HTML5 video and audio files, and YouTube. - For YouTube videos in particular, the free MacTubeshttp://macapps.sakura.ne.jp/mactubes/index_en.htmlapplication allows you to view YouTube video in multiple resolutions and full-screen. It is also more efficient at playback on older Macs. Please support this excellent application. - If you have a fast-enough G4 or G5, you can also view many YouTube videos using TenFourFox's built-in HTML5 WebM video support, which *is*supported. To do so, visit http://www.youtube.com/html5 and opt in to the HTML5 trial. This will set a temporary cookie so that available embedded videos and videos on YouTube will be presented to you in native HTML5 video, if available. While you do not need a YouTube account to use HTML5 video, the cookie may periodically expire and require renewal, and not all videos are available in WebM. --- You could also try Camino, although it is not supported anymore. I like its more Mac-like feeling: http://caminobrowser.org/blog/2013/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
On 06/01/2014 23:51, Manoah F. Adams mhfad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my Quicksilver 2001 800DP video from the stock nVidia GeForce2 MX 32MB card to an nVidia FX 5500 (8x AGP). After finding that it wouldn't boot with the new card (that is not even into firmware stage), I found and followed the tutorial at Mac Elite (http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11) -- specifically, by taping pins 3 and 11. Now, it appears to boot, but without any video output (monitor doesn't receive any signals, stays/goes asleep). I don't have handy any alternative hardware to test the video card separately (to check for damage there to, though it's a new card) or to check for output from the DVI port, etc. I know my machine is still okay as I'm using it this moment (with the old video card). Has anyone else been down this path before? I've tried web searches, but always seem to wind up back at that article. Hi, The nVidia FX series are not the easiest to adapt for mac and usually have no dvi when flashed unless they are very specific cards like the Ultra FX 5200 128MB and even then may be subject to problems depending on the manufacturer. The original Radeon 9800 pro series with bga ram is probably the easiest to convert - but not the later cheap imports with slow tsop ram and only half the memory width. If the 5500 is not already flashed to mac by using a pc then you will need to use a VNC client and another mac on the network to flash it - Chicken of the VNC is a widely used client for macor use Graphiccelerator in your startup items preloaded with a mac rom for the 5500. If the pins are unsuccessfully taped the mac will not boot at all - if the pins are taped well and the mac boots but no video the rom is not successfully read and loaded by the mac - zapping the pram/nvram may cure it but if it doesn't it's back to the drawing board - and a different rom. The best way is to flash it with dos in a pc before using it in a mac - there used to be a forum named strangedogs which a had a large flashing community though you will have to join to search it if they are still in existence. Pete -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
Thank you Ken, very helpful info Now it seems adobe flash player is the problem. i cant open itunes or play music from G4. On Monday, January 6, 2014 6:55:58 AM UTC-8, Ken Daggett wrote: On 6 Jan 2014, at 06:48:12 AM PST, Kroffi Media wrote: My G4 Browser needs to be updated but i cant find anything that is compatible.anybody have an idea? -- TenFourFoxG4 http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ Ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
As far as I know, Flash is not supported. JT On Jan 7, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Kroffi Media wrote: Thank you Ken, very helpful info Now it seems adobe flash player is the problem. i cant open itunes or play music from G4. On Monday, January 6, 2014 6:55:58 AM UTC-8, Ken Daggett wrote: On 6 Jan 2014, at 06:48:12 AM PST, Kroffi Media wrote: My G4 Browser needs to be updated but i cant find anything that is compatible.anybody have an idea? -- TenFourFoxG4 http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ Ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Browser g4
Hello, My G4 Browser needs to be updated but i cant find anything that is compatible.anybody have an idea? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Browser g4
On 6 Jan 2014, at 06:48:12 AM PST, Kroffi Media wrote: My G4 Browser needs to be updated but i cant find anything that is compatible.anybody have an idea? -- TenFourFoxG4 http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ Ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my Quicksilver 2001 800DP video from the stock nVidia GeForce2 MX 32MB card to an nVidia FX 5500 (8x AGP). After finding that it wouldn't boot with the new card (that is not even into firmware stage), I found and followed the tutorial at Mac Elite (http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11) -- specifically, by taping pins 3 and 11. Now, it appears to boot, but without any video output (monitor doesn't receive any signals, stays/goes asleep). I don't have handy any alternative hardware to test the video card separately (to check for damage there to, though it's a new card) or to check for output from the DVI port, etc. I know my machine is still okay as I'm using it this moment (with the old video card). Has anyone else been down this path before? I've tried web searches, but always seem to wind up back at that article. Manoah F. Adams mhfad...@gmail.com info:https://federaladamsfamily.com/developer This message is signed with a certificate and-or PGP key. Disregard any unverified messages from this address. Email Certificates for personal use can be obtained from Comodo at https://secure.comodo.com/products/frontpage? area=SecureEmailCertificate For PGP/GPG key usage and tools, see www.gnupg.org === smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
Original message from Manoah F. Adams (Monday, January 6 2014): Hi, Hello! I'm trying to upgrade my Quicksilver 2001 800DP video from the stock nVidia GeForce2 MX 32MB card to an nVidia FX 5500 (8x AGP). You forgot to mention if it is a flashed PC card or if it is a Mac variant. If it is a Mac graphics card you have better chances, but I suspect you should definitely try the DVI port too. If you have a second Mac available you could try to use Apple Remote Desktop to see what you Mac, running the FX5500 then, shows in the System Profiler. Maybe the driver is missing. Maybe the VGA port isn’t detected (while the DVI port is). And you would see that it is running correctly apart from the graphics card output. I know my machine is still okay as I'm using it this moment (with the old video card). Has anyone else been down this path before? You should definitely also zap the NVRAM to clear out graphics settings that have been left around for the former graphics card. http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379 That helped—and I hope I recall correctly—in one of my cases… I've tried web searches, but always seem to wind up back at that article. Good luck! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Using AGP 8x card in AGP 4x ADC compatible slot
If this card is a PC card, you’ll need to flash the firmware to Mac firmware before it will work in a PPC Mac (should work as a PC card in an Intel Mac if you have the newer nVidia drivers). You can get the firmware ROM at http://themacelite.wikidot.com/wikidownloads2. Flashing it may be a little complicated. It appears the flash tool used called nvflash is a PC DOS program, so you’d need a PC with an AGP slot to flash the card. Once flashed, the PC monitor will likely go black. If there’s a Mac nVidia flash program, you’d need a Mac PCI video card so you could see the monitor while flashing the AGP card. I’ve done this many times using a really old and cheap PC booted from a DOS floppy. Sometimes a ROM doesn’t work, but I’ve always been able to re-flash with a different ROM, and eventually get a fully functional card. It’s just a slight hassle. On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Manoah F. Adams mhfad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my Quicksilver 2001 800DP video from the stock nVidia GeForce2 MX 32MB card to an nVidia FX 5500 (8x AGP). After finding that it wouldn't boot with the new card (that is not even into firmware stage), I found and followed the tutorial at Mac Elite (http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11) -- specifically, by taping pins 3 and 11. Now, it appears to boot, but without any video output (monitor doesn't receive any signals, stays/goes asleep). I don't have handy any alternative hardware to test the video card separately (to check for damage there to, though it's a new card) or to check for output from the DVI port, etc. I know my machine is still okay as I'm using it this moment (with the old video card). Has anyone else been down this path before? I've tried web searches, but always seem to wind up back at that article. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Forums on lowendmac.com
We've added a widget to display the most recent postings to our various forums on LowEndMac.com. Come on over and check them out! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: UPnP/DLNA client
There are a couple of options (XBMS, Mythbuntu, etc) that will run on PPC if you're looking for a media front-end to connect directly to a TV, not sure about streaming. However, most PPC probably won't do too well with HD due to their graphics hardware. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:03 PM, joe duran joe.du...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On Dec 23, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:58 PM -0800 12/17/2013, nestwasright wrote (on g-books and got no response after 6 days, so I'm doin this on g3-5 too): Anyone know of a solid dedicated UPnP/DLNA client? I say dedicated because I've tried VLC and don't really like it for that purpose. This will run on 10.5.8, if you know of an intel app, that will be good for research as well. Lookin too, here. I want to stream from my QuickSilver (Leopard) to my new Toshiba LED Cloud TV. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. I use tvmobili with great success streaming from my mini (Mavericks) to my Samsung blu-ray, Samsung tv and even my PS3! I think they offer an older unsupported version for ppc leopard if I recall correctly. There is also Plex and a few other options. Google “mac dlna server”. Have fun figuring out the options! Joe -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Lost Connections...
If you're talking about an ad-hoc connection (not through an access point or router) then you can do so by selecting Create Network from the Airport drop-down menu. Shouldn't have any other problems than that, though it's more likely that the newer computer will see the older computer, instead of the other way around. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:46 PM, James E. Therrault mjrtas...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible to connect my Powerbook G4 (10.4) to my Mac Mini (10.6) direct via Airport? I seem to remember doing so a few years ago but I can' get either to recognize the other now. -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: UPnP/DLNA client
At 7:58 PM -0800 12/17/2013, nestwasright wrote (on g-books and got no response after 6 days, so I'm doin this on g3-5 too): Anyone know of a solid dedicated UPnP/DLNA client? I say dedicated because I've tried VLC and don't really like it for that purpose. This will run on 10.5.8, if you know of an intel app, that will be good for research as well. Lookin too, here. I want to stream from my QuickSilver (Leopard) to my new Toshiba LED Cloud TV. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: UPnP/DLNA client
On Dec 23, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:58 PM -0800 12/17/2013, nestwasright wrote (on g-books and got no response after 6 days, so I'm doin this on g3-5 too): Anyone know of a solid dedicated UPnP/DLNA client? I say dedicated because I've tried VLC and don't really like it for that purpose. This will run on 10.5.8, if you know of an intel app, that will be good for research as well. Lookin too, here. I want to stream from my QuickSilver (Leopard) to my new Toshiba LED Cloud TV. There’s not a whole lot out there I found this http://apple.stackexchange.com/a/83078 referring to Leopard explicitly, and the Wikipedia article on UPnP/DLNA article. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: UPnP/DLNA client
On Dec 23, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 7:58 PM -0800 12/17/2013, nestwasright wrote (on g-books and got no response after 6 days, so I'm doin this on g3-5 too): Anyone know of a solid dedicated UPnP/DLNA client? I say dedicated because I've tried VLC and don't really like it for that purpose. This will run on 10.5.8, if you know of an intel app, that will be good for research as well. Lookin too, here. I want to stream from my QuickSilver (Leopard) to my new Toshiba LED Cloud TV. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. I use tvmobili with great success streaming from my mini (Mavericks) to my Samsung blu-ray, Samsung tv and even my PS3! I think they offer an older unsupported version for ppc leopard if I recall correctly. There is also Plex and a few other options. Google “mac dlna server”. Have fun figuring out the options! Joe -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Lost Connections...
Is it possible to connect my Powerbook G4 (10.4) to my Mac Mini (10.6) direct via Airport? I seem to remember doing so a few years ago but I can' get either to recognize the other now. Both have sharing turned on.. Thanks, JT in Austin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
Just prod Bruce a bit and he invariably comes up with invaluable advice :-) Thanks a lot for this great little tooltip! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
@Clark: ingenious! But if he values his data, he should have a backup, like an external HD or something. Even if he doesn't, I'm sure he can borrow a USB drive to do the transfer job. I guess he had not started on it yet because he wanted to be clear about the entire procedure first, and he wasn't sure how to copy the OS over. I agree with Greg that he should consider doing a fresh OS install, depending on how long he's been working with this system drive, and on how much time he can spend on the install of OS and application software. @Greg: I guess what you say about copying over the OS is about Apple's Drive Utility. But CCC can clone system disks independent of what the Mac is booted from. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:24 AM, Geke gevangaste...@gmail.commailto:gevangaste...@gmail.com wrote: @Greg: I guess what you say about copying over the OS is about Apple's Drive Utility. But CCC can clone system disks independent of what the Mac is booted from. You can use the ‘Restore’ function in Disk Utility to clone any drive mounted on the system to anything other than the boot volume. http://www.amazon.com/USB-SATA-5-25-Cable-Adapter/dp/B000YJBL78 is a must have tool for anyone doing things like this. Use restore to clone the 250 to the 500, then use it to restore the 40 to the 250, pull the 40 install the 500 and boot. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
On Dec 21, 2013, at 11:52 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Dec 21, 2013, at 4:24 AM, Geke gevangaste...@gmail.com wrote: @Greg: I guess what you say about copying over the OS is about Apple's Drive Utility. But CCC can clone system disks independent of what the Mac is booted from. You can use the ‘Restore’ function in Disk Utility to clone any drive mounted on the system to anything other than the boot volume. http://www.amazon.com/USB-SATA-5-25-Cable-Adapter/dp/B000YJBL78 is a must have tool for anyone doing things like this. Use restore to clone the 250 to the 500, then use it to restore the 40 to the 250, pull the 40 install the 500 and boot. -- Bruce Johnson A few years ago when I bought a Mac Mini, I also purchased a SATA/IDE to USB 2.0 Adapter. I haven't used it much but it is a godsend when I need it! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
Hello! I'm trying to wrap my head around the best way to install the 500GB SATA drive I have bought for storing video files. Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for the video projects. What's the best solution? I guess first thing is to copy all of the video files to somewhere else. I know I should be doing that already : / I then need to clone the 40GB to the 250GB? Will that work? Then take the 40GB out and install the 500GB and then copy the video files over? Yes. Do you have somewhere else to copy the video files to, like a backup HD? Alternatively, if you have a (Firewire preferably) dock to connect the new drive externally, you could copy the files over before you install the 500GB--it's somewhat safer. Cloning works well with CCC. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Evan Thomas spe...@gmail.com wrote: Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for the video projects. What's the best solution? 250 GB - 500 GB 40 GB - 250 GB Although I would recommend a fresh OS install, you should be fine everything else. -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
250 GB - 500 GB 40 GB - 250 GB That works. Alas, there exists a self-imposed 2.2 TB (2,200 GB) barrier, in SOME cases. This ... usually ... turns out to be a BIOS incompatibility/limitation. Presently, I always use 1 TB drive for my OS drives, generally configured as 1/3 primary OS, 1/3 emergency backup OS, and 1/3 common data (which ALSO includes programs and data which is intentionally removed from the Primary/Secondary partitions). Additionally, I almost always use 3 TB for data, such as DVD images. I tend to rip all my purchased DVDs to disk, so I can view these on the computer. Whether this is a breach of the DMCA, or not, is not something which I really and truly CARE about!) DO work whatever works for YOU! -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
On Dec 20, 2013, at 1:05 PM, NODEraser wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Evan Thomas spe...@gmail.com wrote: Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for the video projects. What's the best solution? 250 GB - 500 GB 40 GB - 250 GB Although I would recommend a fresh OS install, you should be fine everything else. I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but I think the problem here could be that to transfer the 250 to the 500 you need to be booted from the 40Gb drive in order to make the copy. This means you need three drives mounted at once which may be one too many. I have a PowerMac G5 but I didn't need to do such a shuffle when setting it up so I'm not sure about this. If it is a limitation and the OP doesn't have a way to mount a SATA drive via Firewire or USB then he'll need to do a bit of fancy footwork. If there is room you could: Connect the 40Gb and 250Gb Use Carbon Copy Cloner to copy (without deleting any files) from the 40Gb to the 250Gb. Remove the 40Gb and install the 500Gb Format the 500Gb Finder copy the Video files, etc., from the 250Gb to the 500Gb drive Delete the files from the 250Gb that were copied. Otherwise you'd need to: Connect the 40Gb and 500Gb Format the 500Gb Use CCC to copy from the 40Gb to the 500Gb Remove the 40Gb and install the 250Gb Finder copy the Video files, etc., from the 250Gb to the 500Gb drive Delete the files from the 250Gb that were copied. Use CCC to copy from the 500Gb to the 250Gb the OS and anything else but the files originally on the 250Gb. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Installing New HDD in my G5
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: I'm not sure if it's been mentioned but I think the problem here could be that to transfer the 250 to the 500 you need to be booted from the 40Gb drive in order to make the copy. This means you need three drives mounted at once which may be one too many. I have a PowerMac G5 but I didn't need to do such a shuffle when setting it up so I'm not sure about this. Boot from a USB device or CD. -- [Greg Bennett] -Independent Carpenter, Electrician Lighting Designer -Purveyor of Classic Apple Macintosh Gear http://www.hsiprodsvcs.com/ http://www.macshack.us/ -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Installing New HDD in my G5
Hello! I'm trying to wrap my head around the best way to install the 500GB SATA drive I have bought for storing video files. Currently I'm running a 40GB system disc and 250GB for video projects. I'd like to use the 250GB as the system disc and start using the new 500GB for the video projects. What's the best solution? I guess first thing is to copy all of the video files to somewhere else. I know I should be doing that already : / I then need to clone the 40GB to the 250GB? Will that work? Then take the 40GB out and install the 500GB and then copy the video files over? Cheers, Evan G5 Power Mac Dual 2.0 GHz 2 GB DDR SDRAM OSX 10.5 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
