Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
LOL, perfectly said! Dead right. Windows 8.1 is my windows, and nothing else but going forward will do for me now. The accessibility in windows 8 / 8.1 blows the pants off 7, let alone! XP! Hahah. And anybody that says narrator in windows 8 isn't getting good, obviously hasn't actually bothered to sit down and use it for a while, too see just what Microsoft have done. They have made it close to a screen reader in and of itself! And in the case of windows RT, it is. OK, it's not up to the VoiceOver standards in OS X, but it's trying, and I think it will get there in the end. Considering where narrator was in windows XP, then in windows 7, ... windows 8's narrator is a massive improvement. And it actually works. I've actually sat down, and used Internet explorer, and a few other apps, with narrator. It is, in fact, quite usable. OK, I'm not about to replace NVDA with narrator, LOL. but it's a good effort, and a good start towards what it needs to be. and Windows XP feels so old to me now. I mean, come on, ... no start menu search? LOL. How, late 1990's, / early 2000's. Hahah. So last decade! Dallas On 30/12/2013, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Dallas: > > Yes, you are absolutely right. I forgot to mention those commands in > my prior e-mail, but all the same things in Windows 8 are very easy > once you are made aware of commands like Windows+t to jump to the > Taskbar or the Windows+1 through Windows+0 commands to launch apps > from the Taskbar. Now that I have learned how easy Windows 8 is I > wouldn't trade it for XP any day of the week. It is the people who > don't know about all the extra accessibility under the hood that are > still dragging their heals and complaining about how much worse > Windows 8 is when they simply don't know what in blazes they are > talking about. > > Cheers! > > > On 12/29/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: >> hi. one note, maybe you haven't used this command, perhaps you don't >> even know it is there. lol. but in stead of going to your desktop then >> tabbing over to your task bar, simply press windows T. this will jump >> you to the first item on your task bar, from where ever you are. >> anywhere in the system at all. so no need for multiple key presses, >> when that one command will take you to your taskbar quickly. >> then, also, another handy feature of the taskbar, is the ability to >> use windows key, along with 1 through to 0. so, for example. lets say >> i have firefox in the first position on the task bar. just press >> windows key and 1, from anywhere in the system, and firefox will open. >> also, if it is already open, and this is rather handy, pressing that >> command will switch to it's window. so no having to alt tab through to >> find the firefox window, just press the windows key, and the 1 key. >> >> just thought i'd put this out there, as people may or may not know of >> these commands, and how much easier they make things in windows. >> >> Dallas > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
She sounds like my most recent x girlfriend LOL. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! -Original Message- From: Amanda Burt Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 4:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Thomas That's terrible. Is there nothing you can do regarding your wife selling stuff behind your back? I really think that's disgusting. Amanda -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:53 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Bryan, Cool. Glad you still have the original equipment. I use to have all of my Atari 2600 and Atari 7800 Plus equipment and games, but my ex decided to take them and sell them behind my back. So I literally have to start over from scratch if I want to have the equipment and games. Fortunately, thanks to emulators like Stella I am not sure buying the original hardware and games is worth it. I cam emulate most of what I want, and if not there are some retro consoles with many of the games built into the console which are cheaper than trying to collect all my old games and consoles. Cheers! On 12/28/13, Bryan Peterson wrote: I actually still have a working Atari and a pretty large collection of games for it. It isn't the system my brother had growing up butrater one my sister's x boyfriend found somewhere and later gave to me. I had to shop around for a few controllers for it since it came with a few games that required the paddles but unfortunately didn't come with the paddles themselves. Unfortunately the site I used to buy my Atari stuff from, while still up as far as I know, was out of all Atari stuff last time I checked. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Hi Dark: Yeah, I have heard the Power Joy was pretty decent. I don't own one myself, but it sounds like something I would certainly enjoy. As for Rowland on the Ropes it does sound like it could easily be made into an audio game. It sounds fairly simple to create, doesn't need a lot in the way of sounds, and I probably have the basic code written if I consider the work done for MOTA etc. In fact, I have strongly considered redoing MOTA exclusively as a side-scroller along the lines of something like this freeing up my Tomb Hunter series for the FPS genre. Cheers! On 12/29/13, dark wrote: > Hi tom. > > Well the power joy, the one my dad owned wasn't too bad, it had the 30 or so > > games it played in a big long list so you just hit down, though I personally > > would've liked a little more highlighting. > > What I enjoyed about that console was as I said the chance to play several > old nes titles such as Balloon fight, warp man and ice climbers, though > later I got the ice climbers gba remake to play on my gamecube since I liked > > the game so much. > > Rowland on the ropes was a great game. I'm told it was released as freddy on > > other systems, where as the Amstrad cpc used the mascot for a games > company, namely the titula rowland, but under whatever name it was an awsome > > game. Sadly I only found a rather badly done pc remake. > > The ghosts could be frightened away with the gun, so you weren't completely > > helpless, but where as it'd take one shot to shoot a mummy or a bat, several > > shots would be needed to get rid of a ghost. Usually the best way to deal > with a ghost was run or climb in the opposite direction until the ghost got > > tired of chasing, or duck into a passage and let the ghost pass since they > only traveled in one direction. > > The game also featured dropping acid, and rats that ran across ledges which > > you needed to traverse around. > > One very unique thing about the game is that you pretty much didn't really > > jump beside hopping on and off ropes, one reason why the rats were such a > pain since you could only pass them by hopping of a rope in front of them > then walking to the next rope and jumping on before they hit you. > > This is also why it'd be an easy one to do in audio, since you'd need no > arcing jump controls or edge of ledge issues (all ledges had ropes), though > > you would need indicators of enemy movement in four possible directions, > left and right along passages, or up and down the ropes. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Hi Amanda: Not really. Sad to say she did a lot of that stuff before I filed for divorce, and at most all I can do is ask the court for compensation for the stuff she sold. The problem is when we talk about old stuff like the Atari and games it isn't worth much, but it can cost a pretty penny to replace them if I buy them from collectors. So even if I ask for compensation I am not really sure how much I will get for the various things she sold. In the end I will probably just have to accept the fact she did me wrong, screwed me over, and will have to try and replace those games and consoles if and when I can. Cheers! On 12/29/13, Amanda Burt wrote: > Hi Thomas > > That's terrible. Is there nothing you can do regarding your wife selling > stuff behind your back? I really think that's disgusting. > > Amanda --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Hi Thomas That's terrible. Is there nothing you can do regarding your wife selling stuff behind your back? I really think that's disgusting. Amanda -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:53 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Bryan, Cool. Glad you still have the original equipment. I use to have all of my Atari 2600 and Atari 7800 Plus equipment and games, but my ex decided to take them and sell them behind my back. So I literally have to start over from scratch if I want to have the equipment and games. Fortunately, thanks to emulators like Stella I am not sure buying the original hardware and games is worth it. I cam emulate most of what I want, and if not there are some retro consoles with many of the games built into the console which are cheaper than trying to collect all my old games and consoles. Cheers! On 12/28/13, Bryan Peterson wrote: I actually still have a working Atari and a pretty large collection of games for it. It isn't the system my brother had growing up butrater one my sister's x boyfriend found somewhere and later gave to me. I had to shop around for a few controllers for it since it came with a few games that required the paddles but unfortunately didn't come with the paddles themselves. Unfortunately the site I used to buy my Atari stuff from, while still up as far as I know, was out of all Atari stuff last time I checked. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Dallas: Yes, you are absolutely right. I forgot to mention those commands in my prior e-mail, but all the same things in Windows 8 are very easy once you are made aware of commands like Windows+t to jump to the Taskbar or the Windows+1 through Windows+0 commands to launch apps from the Taskbar. Now that I have learned how easy Windows 8 is I wouldn't trade it for XP any day of the week. It is the people who don't know about all the extra accessibility under the hood that are still dragging their heals and complaining about how much worse Windows 8 is when they simply don't know what in blazes they are talking about. Cheers! On 12/29/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: > hi. one note, maybe you haven't used this command, perhaps you don't > even know it is there. lol. but in stead of going to your desktop then > tabbing over to your task bar, simply press windows T. this will jump > you to the first item on your task bar, from where ever you are. > anywhere in the system at all. so no need for multiple key presses, > when that one command will take you to your taskbar quickly. > then, also, another handy feature of the taskbar, is the ability to > use windows key, along with 1 through to 0. so, for example. lets say > i have firefox in the first position on the task bar. just press > windows key and 1, from anywhere in the system, and firefox will open. > also, if it is already open, and this is rather handy, pressing that > command will switch to it's window. so no having to alt tab through to > find the firefox window, just press the windows key, and the 1 key. > > just thought i'd put this out there, as people may or may not know of > these commands, and how much easier they make things in windows. > > Dallas --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Shaun: Well, not likely. Most game developers aren't in the habit of discussing their future plans or publicly address compatibility issues unless they have something in the works. Besides your idea of a weekly or monthly update from each and every developer is a bit unrealistic. For one thing a lot of developers, including myself, do this as a hobby. Meaning they aren't necessarily working on games etc every day. Therefore they probably don't have anything to report that often. Even if they do there are very good reasons to not make any announcements until if and when they have something to report. As it is there have been public announcements from various game developers here and there regarding compatibility, and the situation by and large isn't being ignored. It just takes time to come up with a workable solution. For example, I recall some months ago David Greenwood stating he has found a way to fix the 3d audio issues on Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8. He has a patch in the works for Shades of Doom and Tank Commander that will address the audio issues. So right there we know he is aware of the problem and has plans to fix it. We just don't know when he will release said updates. As David Greenwood has always played his cards pretty close to his chest I'm not surprised he hasn't said much how those updates are going or said when they will be released. Just knowing he is working on them is enough for me. Draconis has also been pretty vocal the last few months about their future plans. We have already seen their new engine in action with Change Reaction and Silver Dollar, and I suspect we will see more from them in the future. I am not too worried about their games having serious long term compatibility issues with Windows 8 because I know they are working on the issue. My point being is we don't need to have a blog or some website where each developer explains their plans regarding compatibility because many of them are already slowly working on the issue if and when they have the time or the desire to do so. Others we can be relatively sure aren't doing much if anything to address the issue because they are happy where they are, are happy with Visual Basic and XP, and won't change until circumstances forces them to. That is not anything we have any control over, and some of us will just have to move on without them. That is all there is to it. I know that sounds a bit cavalier, but the fact of the matter is there is always someone somewhere who will be willing to fill the gap left by another developer. If one developer quits, fails to upgrade, there is bound to be someone somewhere who will replace them, and may even be willing to write their own versions of the games. Once that happens the compatibility issues left by the first developer are not of any serious concern, and the original developer will simply cease to be a concern. Cheers! On 12/26/13, Shaun Everiss wrote: > Well personally I do wish that this time of unsertainty will pass quickly. > I don't play the old gma games as much as I used to, and to be honest > who knows what will happen in the future. > Howevver I do hope that there is more progress at least publically > reported. > Sometimes it feels like that everytthing is standing still and thats > my prime frustration right there. > Because I don't know where everything etc is at I start think > irational thoughts. > There needs to be if at all possible a register or every dev that > still does games in general at least those that use old systems to > see what their update status is if ever they are going to do so. > I realise that this is probably not going to happen but it would put > my mind at rest if I could check every few weeks and know where the > players were and be notified via email when things changed. > I realise that it would be another layer on top of what others had to > do but it would be convenient for the gamer if one existed. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp was Re: new version of swamp
note, a game pad / XBox controller may not work. i tried using my game pad, but it won't work right, as it's not a flight controller. in other words, it has no throttle, no rudder control, and so on. so your best bet would be to get a flight stick. Dallas On 27/12/2013, Shaun Everiss wrote: > Thats another thing I have not got used to. > wireless hardware means batteries. > Batteries mean I may turn on and find things do not work meaning I > have to change them and I have always had issues changing power cells. > i have only just got used to the semi touch keyboard membrane in my > win7/8 hybrid laptop, I am still a fan of wired devices but I have > never needed to move round much. > One thing I must say is that I am trying to think of a good joystick > to get for 3d verlosity, I can't keep one on my desk, so its going to > have to be a game pad. > I was thinking of using an xbox 360 or xbox 1 controler but to be > honest, Unless I find a way to fit a joystick on my desk I am just not > sure. > > At 12:08 p.m. 27/12/2013, you wrote: >>yeh had to buy a wireless mouse >> >>On 12/26/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: >> > hi. yes. but keep in mind, that if you have one of those clickpads, >> > like i do, where there are no buttons, it just clicks down to click >> > the mouse, ... it won't work so well. because you can't walk and shoot >> > at the same time. >> > dallas >> > >> > >> > On 27/12/2013, loriduncan wrote: >> >> Hi, yes you can play Swamp with a trackpad, what you do is use your >> >> right >> >> mouse button to walk forward, and your left mouse button to fire your >> >> weapon. When doing very small turns, you run your finger gentley >> >> accross >> >> the pad from left to right to turn right, and right to left to turn >> >> left. >> >> If you try it out in the safe zone you should hear the sounds moving >> >> around >> >> through your headphones. From Lori. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: Lindsay Cowell >> >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 7:39 PM >> >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> >> Subject: [Audyssey] Swamp was Re: new version of swamp >> >> >> >> Hi All. >> >> >> >> I want to start playing swamp. Is it possible to play it with a laptop >> >> trackpad, and any tips for how to do this, and what I need to >> >> configure? >> >> It's a shame you can't play swamp using a keyboard. >> >> >> >> Lindsay Cowell >> >> >> >> -original message- >> >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new version of swamp >> >> From: ryan chou >> >> Date: 26/12/2013 7:22 pm >> >> >> >> if you want to survive with the axe, there is a way of doing it >> >> there's a certain way to backpetal while swinging so that you can keep >> >> hitting the zombie, but it can't hit you >> >> it requires a lot of timing, but its doable >> >> another option for you is resetting and putting points in to speed >> >> and sneaking to max both, then putting points in to the glock and >> >> possibly health and armor >> >> or get enough rep to buy yourself a silencer and kill using that until >> >> you can find loot to sell to get more rep >> >> also on the issue of rep, this is why even a whole day after the new >> >> version came out I still haven't joined a mission, so I can get back >> >> up to a decent amount of rep through killing and selling loot >> >> hth >> >> >> >> On 12/26/13, loriduncan wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, I just upgraded Swamp to the latest version and I can't >> >>> believe >> >>> how much harder it is, especially to lose all our rep at such a high >> >>> level >> >>> and to only have a stupid ax to fight with. I used the rep I had to >> >>> go >> >>> on >> >>> missions, but after some symbles person kicked me from one, and dying >> >>> on >> >>> another, I only had enough rep to buy back some ammo for my glock. >> >>> When >> >>> I >> >>> think of all the hard effort I and other players have put into >> >>> building >> >>> up >> >>> our rep over the last 2 years, I feel as though getting this far has >> >>> been >> >>> a >> >>> complete let down now I only have an ax. It's like hc mode, and has >> >>> taken >> >>> all the fun out of the game. I'm over 200 in levels, 1 hit gives me >> >>> bloody >> >>> clothes, and when I run out of ammo, and try to use my ax, I die in >> >>> about >> >>> 2 >> >>> seconds. So my question to you and aprone is, how am I meant to >> >>> survive >> >>> if >> >>> I keep on dying and don't have enough rep to get better weapons or >> >>> even >> >>> ammo >> >>> for my glock? I'm on map 2 right now, and can't even make it back to >> >>> map >> >>> 1 >> >>> alive. >> >>> >> >>> It's such a shame this has happened, especially as I was looking >> >>> forward >> >>> to >> >>> playing the game non-stop over the holidays. What do other people >> >>> think >> >>> to >> >>> the changes? Oh and while I remember, if anyone has any tips on >> >>> surviving >> >>> with only an ax, and avoiding bloody clothes, could they please let >> >>> me >> >>> know. >> >>> Many thanks from Lori. >> >>>
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
hi. one note, maybe you haven't used this command, perhaps you don't even know it is there. lol. but in stead of going to your desktop then tabbing over to your task bar, simply press windows T. this will jump you to the first item on your task bar, from where ever you are. anywhere in the system at all. so no need for multiple key presses, when that one command will take you to your taskbar quickly. then, also, another handy feature of the taskbar, is the ability to use windows key, along with 1 through to 0. so, for example. lets say i have firefox in the first position on the task bar. just press windows key and 1, from anywhere in the system, and firefox will open. also, if it is already open, and this is rather handy, pressing that command will switch to it's window. so no having to alt tab through to find the firefox window, just press the windows key, and the 1 key. just thought i'd put this out there, as people may or may not know of these commands, and how much easier they make things in windows. Dallas On 30/12/2013, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Shaun: > > I think you are seriously over reacting. I don't know why you would be > scared of Windows 8. There is absolutely nothing to be scared of. As > Franklin D. Roosevelt once said, "all we have to fear is fear itself." > That seems quite apt for this situation. > > Sure, I won't deny Windows 8 has a completely different user > interface, but it isn't hard to learn, nor is it insurmountable. If > anything it is easy enough to learn and use if you have someone to > perhaps talk you through it and show you where things are, and if you > don't have someone to help you can always just search for it and 99% > of the time Windows 8 will find it for you. > > For instance, the Windows Start Screen is a pain to navigate. Big > deal. If I want to start an app I can just start typing the name of > the program into the Start Screen and I'll get a list box of possible > matches that will pop up I can arrow through until I find the one I > want. If I typed Word into the Start Screen it would give me a list of > matches like Microsoft Word, Wordpad, Word Target, etc. I could then > arrow through the displayed items to find the one I want without > having to tab and arrow around the Start Screen to find it. > > Another alternative is the run dialog. I can still press Windows+r to > bring up run, and type the name of the executable into the dialog and > launch it that way. Admittedly it isn't as handy as the XP Start Menu > was, but once you get use to doing it that way it is quick and easy > enough. > > Finally, there is the Taskbar itself. You can pin games and apps to > your Taskbar so they are always available from the Taskbar meaning > most of the time you will never even have to use the Start Screen. You > just tab to your Taskbar, arrow to the launcher for Microsoft Word, > press enter, and you are in business. Once you set it up that way, pin > all your favorite apps to the Taskbar, the Start Screen is pretty much > null and void. > > My point here being is Windows 8 is different, maybe you will need to > learn some new skills, do things a bit differently than you are use > to, but there is absolutely no reason to be scared to death of it. > Bottom line, you have to be willing to change, learn new things, and > if you can't then you have no business owning or using a computer. > Computers always change, always require constant willingness to learn > and do different things, and the people who can't do that will never > get ahead in the world. > > Cheers! > > > On 12/26/13, Shaun Everiss wrote: >> I agree with you mike. >> win7 I can mostly live with since I have to handle that daily but 8 >> scares the living daylights out of me. >> So much visual stuff and stuff I am not used to. >> I have heard all the info and I am still scared to death. >> I have used classic systems for ages, even7 is still simular enoough >> that I am not to scared but 8 and its apps, start screen and other >> stuff really does scare me a lot. >> >>>I know that XP is near its end. >>>I also know that there are newer operating systems (just the ones >>>from Microsoft). >>>I know that security is a factor which might bring people to upgrade >>>at some point. >>>True, if XP is now longer supported, hackers and other people can >>>possibly find holes in the security systems. >>>And true, not every antivirus program can protect you from such attacks. >>>However, the viruses are not the only danger when it comes to using >>>the internet. Criminals who manipulate websites to not directly >>>target your computer but to record or capture the communication the >>>moment it leaves your computer are more dangerous. >>>If you are on a manipulated website and whatever interactions you >>>have with that site (be it loggin in, doing money transfers or >>>whatever) might be captured without the need of actually cracking >>>some form of encryption. >>>I think that there is a term for such indirect att
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Hi tom. Well the power joy, the one my dad owned wasn't too bad, it had the 30 or so games it played in a big long list so you just hit down, though I personally would've liked a little more highlighting. What I enjoyed about that console was as I said the chance to play several old nes titles such as Balloon fight, warp man and ice climbers, though later I got the ice climbers gba remake to play on my gamecube since I liked the game so much. Rowland on the ropes was a great game. I'm told it was released as freddy on other systems, where as the Amstrad cpc used the mascot for a games company, namely the titula rowland, but under whatever name it was an awsome game. Sadly I only found a rather badly done pc remake. The ghosts could be frightened away with the gun, so you weren't completely helpless, but where as it'd take one shot to shoot a mummy or a bat, several shots would be needed to get rid of a ghost. Usually the best way to deal with a ghost was run or climb in the opposite direction until the ghost got tired of chasing, or duck into a passage and let the ghost pass since they only traveled in one direction. The game also featured dropping acid, and rats that ran across ledges which you needed to traverse around. One very unique thing about the game is that you pretty much didn't really jump beside hopping on and off ropes, one reason why the rats were such a pain since you could only pass them by hopping of a rope in front of them then walking to the next rope and jumping on before they hit you. This is also why it'd be an easy one to do in audio, since you'd need no arcing jump controls or edge of ledge issues (all ledges had ropes), though you would need indicators of enemy movement in four possible directions, left and right along passages, or up and down the ropes. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Shaun: I think you are seriously over reacting. I don't know why you would be scared of Windows 8. There is absolutely nothing to be scared of. As Franklin D. Roosevelt once said, "all we have to fear is fear itself." That seems quite apt for this situation. Sure, I won't deny Windows 8 has a completely different user interface, but it isn't hard to learn, nor is it insurmountable. If anything it is easy enough to learn and use if you have someone to perhaps talk you through it and show you where things are, and if you don't have someone to help you can always just search for it and 99% of the time Windows 8 will find it for you. For instance, the Windows Start Screen is a pain to navigate. Big deal. If I want to start an app I can just start typing the name of the program into the Start Screen and I'll get a list box of possible matches that will pop up I can arrow through until I find the one I want. If I typed Word into the Start Screen it would give me a list of matches like Microsoft Word, Wordpad, Word Target, etc. I could then arrow through the displayed items to find the one I want without having to tab and arrow around the Start Screen to find it. Another alternative is the run dialog. I can still press Windows+r to bring up run, and type the name of the executable into the dialog and launch it that way. Admittedly it isn't as handy as the XP Start Menu was, but once you get use to doing it that way it is quick and easy enough. Finally, there is the Taskbar itself. You can pin games and apps to your Taskbar so they are always available from the Taskbar meaning most of the time you will never even have to use the Start Screen. You just tab to your Taskbar, arrow to the launcher for Microsoft Word, press enter, and you are in business. Once you set it up that way, pin all your favorite apps to the Taskbar, the Start Screen is pretty much null and void. My point here being is Windows 8 is different, maybe you will need to learn some new skills, do things a bit differently than you are use to, but there is absolutely no reason to be scared to death of it. Bottom line, you have to be willing to change, learn new things, and if you can't then you have no business owning or using a computer. Computers always change, always require constant willingness to learn and do different things, and the people who can't do that will never get ahead in the world. Cheers! On 12/26/13, Shaun Everiss wrote: > I agree with you mike. > win7 I can mostly live with since I have to handle that daily but 8 > scares the living daylights out of me. > So much visual stuff and stuff I am not used to. > I have heard all the info and I am still scared to death. > I have used classic systems for ages, even7 is still simular enoough > that I am not to scared but 8 and its apps, start screen and other > stuff really does scare me a lot. > >>I know that XP is near its end. >>I also know that there are newer operating systems (just the ones >>from Microsoft). >>I know that security is a factor which might bring people to upgrade >>at some point. >>True, if XP is now longer supported, hackers and other people can >>possibly find holes in the security systems. >>And true, not every antivirus program can protect you from such attacks. >>However, the viruses are not the only danger when it comes to using >>the internet. Criminals who manipulate websites to not directly >>target your computer but to record or capture the communication the >>moment it leaves your computer are more dangerous. >>If you are on a manipulated website and whatever interactions you >>have with that site (be it loggin in, doing money transfers or >>whatever) might be captured without the need of actually cracking >>some form of encryption. >>I think that there is a term for such indirect attacks: "man in the >>browser" or something like that. >>And I also think that it has not to be limited to the web browser itself. >>But that is the extend of that. >>Fact is that such types of attacks might be a bigger problems. >>Such is not a form of direct attack where the fact that you have an >>outdated system might mean nothing. >>If the transfered data is redirected away from the route it is >>supposed to take, you can't see it right now. >>And if such a form of attack happens, it is totally of no >>consequence whether you used XP or Windows 8.1. >> >>And I am sure that this is not the point some people tried to originally >> make. >> >>I am all for better security systems for my computer, but I need to >>get a manual which explains to me the (probably not knowledgeable) >>user what I should do and what I shouldn't do. >>Since XP users had their let's call it "Classic" design and >>programs, they might be confused or might be afraid of things like >>Modern UI in Windows 8 and higher. >>I won't say that everyone won't be able to adapt in time if they >>want to, but who will tell them the inns and outs of Windows 8 >>compared to XP (if your last operating system
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Hi Shaun: Makes sense. As it happens my ex and I also use to do something similar. We had an old desktop computer in the living room with XP on it that we used for games and other things. It wasn't on the Internet or anything like that, but was basically just there to play games on, run older applications, etc while we used our Windows 7 laptops for everything else. It worked out pretty well until the desktop bit the big one and I never got around to repairing it. However, I would definitely agree with someone keeping an XP computer around for older games and apps while having a new computer for using the Internet, e-mail, and playing newer games. Cheers! On 12/26/13, Shaun Everiss wrote: > Well its why I have both systems. > right now for example my xp box is restoring my hdd which had a > partition falier and that will take a while maybe another day. > I am gaming and writing on this win7 system. > I didn't have to upgrade but having an old system for gaming and non > secure stuff and a new system to does help matters. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Shaun: Well, there is a saying, "if there is a will there is a way," and I have found that to be true most of the time. I don't think upgrading is going to cause as much loss of games and applications as most people seem to think. Yes, there will be issues with some games and apps, that is bound to happen at some point, but I think you are making a bigger deal out of compatibility issues than is really warranted by this situation. You have not specified here if you are talking about accessible games or standard video games, but I can say that most video games will be playable through emulators. I have already found a number of 32-bit and 64-bit emulators that work fine with Windows 8.x, and play Atari, NES, and SNES games. So right there I don't see those games having compatibility issues. As for text adventures like Infocom, ZCode, Tads, AGT, and so on again there are plenty of Windows 8 compatible interpreters around. I can use Winfrotz with Sapi to play all the classic ZCode games, and Tads32 works fine with Tads games. Agility for Windows plays a number of text adventures in Windows 8 too. The point being chill out. I think you are freaking out and making a big deal out of nothing. Unless you can offer up some specific games that won't work under Windows 8 or on a 64-bit platform we can look at alternatives to make it work, but otherwise I think you are just worrying unnecessarily over compatibility issues both real and imagined. Cheers! On 12/29/13, shaun everiss wrote: > I also like older games though with xp dieing even though I will have > it to play older stuff and will stay 32 bit otherwise as long as I > can there will come a day where I may just not be able to play the > old classics without a major fiddling round. > Or I get a server to run vms on that may happen, sertainly I will not > be trying to run a vm on my win 7 wrig again to slow. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp was Re: new version of swamp
Shaun: The XBox 360 controllers are blue tooth, AKA wireless, so you don't need to have room on your desk for it. If you don't have room for it on your desk you can simply stick it in a desk drawer, put it in your laptop case, or stash it somewhere else when not in use. This is one advantage of going wireless as you don't have to have everything hooked up to your computer all the time. Just take it out and use it when needed. Cheers! On 12/26/13, Shaun Everiss wrote: > Thats another thing I have not got used to. > wireless hardware means batteries. > Batteries mean I may turn on and find things do not work meaning I > have to change them and I have always had issues changing power cells. > i have only just got used to the semi touch keyboard membrane in my > win7/8 hybrid laptop, I am still a fan of wired devices but I have > never needed to move round much. > One thing I must say is that I am trying to think of a good joystick > to get for 3d verlosity, I can't keep one on my desk, so its going to > have to be a game pad. > I was thinking of using an xbox 360 or xbox 1 controler but to be > honest, Unless I find a way to fit a joystick on my desk I am just not > sure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
I also like older games though with xp dieing even though I will have it to play older stuff and will stay 32 bit otherwise as long as I can there will come a day where I may just not be able to play the old classics without a major fiddling round. Or I get a server to run vms on that may happen, sertainly I will not be trying to run a vm on my win 7 wrig again to slow. At 06:36 AM 12/29/2013, you wrote: Hello, If sound would be available I'd check this out. I like older video games, I had enough sight to play them. Dave On 12/28/13, Phil Vlasak wrote: > Internet Archive puts classic 70s and 80s games online for free > At the moment, the games don't have sound. > > National Monitor, Craig Manning | December 28, 2013 > > Who needs to keep old video game consoles in their basement, collecting > dust, when all of the classic games those consoles supported are playable > online? Who needs to spend money amassing a sprawling video game collection > > when older games can be accessed on the web for a fee of approximately > nothing? > > Those are the questions being posed by the Internet Archive which, according > > to a report published on Friday by Digital Spy, recently made a huge > collection of older video games available and playable online for free. > Don't > get too excited yet to play through all of those Super Nintendo and N64 > games from your youth, though: at the moment, the so-called Internet Archive > > Console Living Room, is only dedicated to the most retro of gaming > consoles. > > So far, the Console Living Room includes sections for five different gaming > > consoles, the Atari 2600, the Atari 7800 ProSystem, the ColecoVision, the > Magnavox Odyssey, and the Astrocade. The Atari consoles are still remembered > > fondly by many gamers, while some of the other models have been a bit more > forgotten over time. Regardless of how successful the gaming systems were > back in the day, however, hundreds of their games have now been modified for > > emulated computer and internet use. From "Donkey Kong" to "Pac-Man" and from > > "Asteroids" to old licensed games like "Spider-Man" and "The Return of the > Jedi," the Internet Archive Console Living Room will allow players to > recapture the timeless throwback feel of 1970s and 1980s gaming. > > At the moment, the games don't have sound, removing the beeps and blips that > > would truly posit the Internet Archive Console Living Room as a vintage and > > nostalgic experience. However, Jason Scott, one of the Internet Archive's > curators suggested that the Console Living Room section would be receiving > some overhauls and improvements over the next few months. Sound will be one > > of those improvements, as will an expansion of the game library. Could > players see games from more recent consoles, such as early Nintendo or Sega > > models, make their way to the Archive over the next few years? That remains > > to be seen, but if the experiment is well received, it's a possibility. > > However, before the Archive can get Nintendo, it needs to get through the > early stages of implementing the Console Living Room as a widely used and > respected tool. Scott says he wants the instant availability of the games to > > open up opportunities for "commentary, education, enjoyment, and memory." > However, it's currently unclear whether or not the Archive has permission to > > emulate every game it currently has in its collection. Some retro game > developers may prefer to port their own games over to smartphones so that > they can make a profit off the retro gaming revival. > https://archive.org/details/consolelivingroom > > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@a
Re: [Audyssey] Swamp was Re: new version of swamp
Thats another thing I have not got used to. wireless hardware means batteries. Batteries mean I may turn on and find things do not work meaning I have to change them and I have always had issues changing power cells. i have only just got used to the semi touch keyboard membrane in my win7/8 hybrid laptop, I am still a fan of wired devices but I have never needed to move round much. One thing I must say is that I am trying to think of a good joystick to get for 3d verlosity, I can't keep one on my desk, so its going to have to be a game pad. I was thinking of using an xbox 360 or xbox 1 controler but to be honest, Unless I find a way to fit a joystick on my desk I am just not sure. At 12:08 p.m. 27/12/2013, you wrote: yeh had to buy a wireless mouse On 12/26/13, Dallas O'Brien wrote: > hi. yes. but keep in mind, that if you have one of those clickpads, > like i do, where there are no buttons, it just clicks down to click > the mouse, ... it won't work so well. because you can't walk and shoot > at the same time. > dallas > > > On 27/12/2013, loriduncan wrote: >> Hi, yes you can play Swamp with a trackpad, what you do is use your right >> mouse button to walk forward, and your left mouse button to fire your >> weapon. When doing very small turns, you run your finger gentley accross >> the pad from left to right to turn right, and right to left to turn left. >> If you try it out in the safe zone you should hear the sounds moving >> around >> through your headphones. From Lori. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Lindsay Cowell >> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 7:39 PM >> To: Gamers Discussion list >> Subject: [Audyssey] Swamp was Re: new version of swamp >> >> Hi All. >> >> I want to start playing swamp. Is it possible to play it with a laptop >> trackpad, and any tips for how to do this, and what I need to configure? >> It's a shame you can't play swamp using a keyboard. >> >> Lindsay Cowell >> >> -original message- >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] new version of swamp >> From: ryan chou >> Date: 26/12/2013 7:22 pm >> >> if you want to survive with the axe, there is a way of doing it >> there's a certain way to backpetal while swinging so that you can keep >> hitting the zombie, but it can't hit you >> it requires a lot of timing, but its doable >> another option for you is resetting and putting points in to speed >> and sneaking to max both, then putting points in to the glock and >> possibly health and armor >> or get enough rep to buy yourself a silencer and kill using that until >> you can find loot to sell to get more rep >> also on the issue of rep, this is why even a whole day after the new >> version came out I still haven't joined a mission, so I can get back >> up to a decent amount of rep through killing and selling loot >> hth >> >> On 12/26/13, loriduncan wrote: >>> Hi everyone, I just upgraded Swamp to the latest version and I can't >>> believe >>> how much harder it is, especially to lose all our rep at such a high >>> level >>> and to only have a stupid ax to fight with. I used the rep I had to go >>> on >>> missions, but after some symbles person kicked me from one, and dying on >>> another, I only had enough rep to buy back some ammo for my glock. When >>> I >>> think of all the hard effort I and other players have put into building >>> up >>> our rep over the last 2 years, I feel as though getting this far has >>> been >>> a >>> complete let down now I only have an ax. It's like hc mode, and has >>> taken >>> all the fun out of the game. I'm over 200 in levels, 1 hit gives me >>> bloody >>> clothes, and when I run out of ammo, and try to use my ax, I die in >>> about >>> 2 >>> seconds. So my question to you and aprone is, how am I meant to survive >>> if >>> I keep on dying and don't have enough rep to get better weapons or even >>> ammo >>> for my glock? I'm on map 2 right now, and can't even make it back to >>> map >>> 1 >>> alive. >>> >>> It's such a shame this has happened, especially as I was looking forward >>> to >>> playing the game non-stop over the holidays. What do other people think >>> to >>> the changes? Oh and while I remember, if anyone has any tips on >>> surviving >>> with only an ax, and avoiding bloody clothes, could they please let me >>> know. >>> Many thanks from Lori. >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
I agree with you mike. win7 I can mostly live with since I have to handle that daily but 8 scares the living daylights out of me. So much visual stuff and stuff I am not used to. I have heard all the info and I am still scared to death. I have used classic systems for ages, even7 is still simular enoough that I am not to scared but 8 and its apps, start screen and other stuff really does scare me a lot. I know that XP is near its end. I also know that there are newer operating systems (just the ones from Microsoft). I know that security is a factor which might bring people to upgrade at some point. True, if XP is now longer supported, hackers and other people can possibly find holes in the security systems. And true, not every antivirus program can protect you from such attacks. However, the viruses are not the only danger when it comes to using the internet. Criminals who manipulate websites to not directly target your computer but to record or capture the communication the moment it leaves your computer are more dangerous. If you are on a manipulated website and whatever interactions you have with that site (be it loggin in, doing money transfers or whatever) might be captured without the need of actually cracking some form of encryption. I think that there is a term for such indirect attacks: "man in the browser" or something like that. And I also think that it has not to be limited to the web browser itself. But that is the extend of that. Fact is that such types of attacks might be a bigger problems. Such is not a form of direct attack where the fact that you have an outdated system might mean nothing. If the transfered data is redirected away from the route it is supposed to take, you can't see it right now. And if such a form of attack happens, it is totally of no consequence whether you used XP or Windows 8.1. And I am sure that this is not the point some people tried to originally make. I am all for better security systems for my computer, but I need to get a manual which explains to me the (probably not knowledgeable) user what I should do and what I shouldn't do. Since XP users had their let's call it "Classic" design and programs, they might be confused or might be afraid of things like Modern UI in Windows 8 and higher. I won't say that everyone won't be able to adapt in time if they want to, but who will tell them the inns and outs of Windows 8 compared to XP (if your last operating system was XP). These are of course only examples. And let's not forget that Microsoft loves to drop a lot of programs out of their systems without replacements or with suboptimal replacements. This is just for as an argument, but I will adress them shortly. XP has Outlook Express. I have no idea if it is a bad program (security related) or if it is horribly outdated for an E-Mail program. It however does its job. Vista had Windows Mail which according to my mother (she is sighted) is like a newer version of Outlook Express with some new features and some altered ones. Then there is Windows 7 which still has a Windows Mail program with its own folder, but it is totally disabled and effectively unusable. Then back in the day (near the initial release of Windows 7( it was strongly suggested that users who had first switched from Outlook Express to Windows Mail should switch again to Windows Live Mail, which is free, but now longer a part of Windows itself. The same goes for Windows Movie Maker. Windows Movie maker is a tool for actually editing or recording videos. But Windows Live Movie Maker is not a "new version" of Windows Movie Maker. The newer program is part of Windows Live and more for sharing your videos or for publishing them on video sharing services. But enough of that. There is another interesting thing I'd like to mention here, allthough I did not experience it myself. I read that the rather old Bavisoft games wouldn't work on Windows 7. I of course have no idea why or which component(s) might be missing. I know that several developers mentioned that VB6 or other older technologies are outdated and that there are replacements for them. But I as an end user are not in the position to force the developer (Bavisoft in this example) to make their games compatible with Windows 7. If Bavisoft were still around, I could ask them nicely if they would be so kind as to do something. But if they would refuse I still would have a bought product which I could not use. True, it would be the developer's fault, but is this reason enough to purposefully drop older runtime components from Windows just because the developer product is outdated? I mean, look at Jim Kitchen's games. They use the VB6 runtime. On XP most of the runtime files should be present by default. On Windows 7 they are not "just because the system is newer". At least it looks this way from the viewpoint of the end user. Luckily the main installer for the game can install the runtime files on new
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Well personally I do wish that this time of unsertainty will pass quickly. I don't play the old gma games as much as I used to, and to be honest who knows what will happen in the future. Howevver I do hope that there is more progress at least publically reported. Sometimes it feels like that everytthing is standing still and thats my prime frustration right there. Because I don't know where everything etc is at I start think irational thoughts. There needs to be if at all possible a register or every dev that still does games in general at least those that use old systems to see what their update status is if ever they are going to do so. I realise that this is probably not going to happen but it would put my mind at rest if I could check every few weeks and know where the players were and be notified via email when things changed. I realise that it would be another layer on top of what others had to do but it would be convenient for the gamer if one existed. Hi Shaun, Well, the money is precisely the reason we can't get big mainstream companies on our side. If a game developer says he made $10,000 last year on game x the mainstream companies will laugh in our faces. Sony, Capcom, Nintendo, Activision, EA Games, and others are use to making millions off a single title. Something like $10,000 is laughable. That would not even cover the salary of their lead developer who would be asked to rewrite portions of the game to make it accessible. Of course, I suspect mainstream developers would have much more success than anyone here, but the whole idea is they do not see much money in it compared to what they are already making. However, as for the idea that the audio games will die off I don't really see that happening per say. Sure some games will have problems, there may be a few compatibility issues, but as game developers and users upgrade they will have to address those compatibility issues eventually. I don't think it is so much a question of if but when all this will happen. Cheers! On 12/26/13, shaun everiss wrote: > I see your point. > I do wander in that case what the future of audiogames will be. > Its obvious that in the short term a lot of what we know will probably die > off. > Its almost we need a shot up the rear but question is what. > I once thought getting main stream companies on our side or making > games to equal things like that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question
Well its why I have both systems. right now for example my xp box is restoring my hdd which had a partition falier and that will take a while maybe another day. I am gaming and writing on this win7 system. I didn't have to upgrade but having an old system for gaming and non secure stuff and a new system to does help matters. Hi Shaun and all, Well, here is what I think will happen. I don't think it is anything to be afraid of because as I have said many times a lot of the stuff we have now can be run on Windows 8.1 with a little bit of tinkering. Yes, while there will be certain issues such as 3d audio support is broken in games like Shades of Doom, Tank Commander, etc it isn't an insurmountable issue. I have played Shades of Doom many times on Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 using stereo mixing which is less precise but doable. What I think is going to happen is eventually a lot of people running XP right now will have to buy new computers running Windows 7, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1. It is not so much a question of if but when. Let's say sometime in the next five years or so the XP user base will slowly but eventually upgrade to a newer machine, new OS, and obviously they will want games that are compatible with their new computers. As the number of blind users running something like Windows 8 grows developers will have to follow suit. They probably will be running newer computers themselves and will have to take some time to look at alternatives such as Visual Basic .NET, C# .NET, Java, whatever. I don't know if they will choose to rewrite any of their older games or not, but I feel confident that newer games will be coming out designed for Windows 7 and up just because by then most of the user base will be running something other than XP anyway. The other thing in our favor is that developers are already slowly moving away from Visual Basic 6 and are looking into more modern technology's. This won't happen all at once, but we are slowly moving away from VB 6 as a general rule. Draconis has a new engine written in C++ , and are rewriting many of their old titles. BPC Programs uses .NET which is already Windows 8.x compatible , and I don't see them having a big problem upgrading their software. Blind Adrenaline is using .NET and I don't see Che having a problem with his games on Windows 8 and beyond either. Entombed is similarly written in .NET and should have a decent shelf life assuming Jason maintains the code. There are quite a few developers using BGT now, and that is reasonably Windows 7 and Windows 8.x compatible currently/. So I wouldn't worry too much about new games being compatible as it seems as though developers are slowly but surely moving away from VB 6 in general. In short, we may have a few problems with older games, and some may stop working. However, by and large it won't be as bad as people fear. Many will still work on the newer platforms, and those that don't may get fixed or upgraded. If there comes a time that something won't work at all there is still the option to run XP etc in a virtual machine which gives a user the best of both worlds. Some people will undoubtedly drag their heals, but like you said I think the best thing to do is upgrade on your own terms rather than be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern computing world. Cheers! On 12/26/13, shaun everiss wrote: > Charles I have no answers for you. > All I know is that something will have to happen. > All I know is we can't go on as we are. > I have no idea what that will mean and yes we may lose some stuff I > just don't know. > All I am saying is that there will be a time when what we used and > loved will be gone. > Think of all the synbian phones and nokia going to inaccessable win8. > Ok se have a bit of access now but still its valid. > I'd like to stay with nokia and symbian but the next thing I move to > may have to be something other than I am used to. > We have 2 choices. > We can do it now at our own pace or we can wait another 10 years, > when ms finally dropps their legacy software and handle it then. > But if we do we may lose all audio games that are not converted. > Now it will not be all games, but it will be a good deal. > We have till at least the end of win8 to decide what we do. > Ms however is vary generous I doubt this will stay for long. > Look at xp its been vary good about keeping it for so long past its > used by date. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to l
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Hi Bryan, Cool. Glad you still have the original equipment. I use to have all of my Atari 2600 and Atari 7800 Plus equipment and games, but my ex decided to take them and sell them behind my back. So I literally have to start over from scratch if I want to have the equipment and games. Fortunately, thanks to emulators like Stella I am not sure buying the original hardware and games is worth it. I cam emulate most of what I want, and if not there are some retro consoles with many of the games built into the console which are cheaper than trying to collect all my old games and consoles. Cheers! On 12/28/13, Bryan Peterson wrote: > I actually still have a working Atari and a pretty large collection of games > > for it. It isn't the system my brother had growing up butrater one my > sister's x boyfriend found somewhere and later gave to me. I had to shop > around for a few controllers for it since it came with a few games that > required the paddles but unfortunately didn't come with the paddles > themselves. Unfortunately the site I used to buy my Atari stuff from, while > > still up as far as I know, was out of all Atari stuff last time I checked. > > > > They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Hi Dark, Well, I can't speak for anyone else but it sounds like that Roland on the Ropes game sounds like something I'd enjoy. Random levels, new enemies per level, and a limited amount of ammo sounds fairly challenging. Plus since you can't kill ghosts, the most common enemy with the gun, you would have to use a bit of strategy on how to deal with them. Anyway, I agree some of those retro consoles are pretty decent. I have seen a few here at our local stores with a number of classic games imbedded into the console like Pac-Man, Asteroids, Space Invaders, etc and it is a great way to play the classic games without having to own a billion cartridges. The only trick is memorizing the menus to bring up the game you want. Cheers! On 12/29/13, dark wrote: > those retro consoles are actually pretty good. My dad had one called a power > > joy which came with about 30 games including joust, packman, defender > karate and several versions of space invaders. > > I particularly liked that one since I got to try several early nes games and > > atari 2600 games I never got to play as a child (since we never own ed a > nes). I particularly liked Ice climbers (which I have since found a Gba > copy of), and Balloon fight, which reminded me a lot of joust though was to > > my mind more fun with slightly more enemy types. > > what I find particularly notable now n those games is that it was always > something to see a new kind of enemy. I remember for example rowland on the > > ropes, a favourite game of mine on our old Amstrad cpc computer, where the > > levels were all randomly generating mazes with the same background, > (climbing through ropes in an egyptian tomb), however it was the fact that > > each level introduced a different enemy type. Ghosts on level 1, mummies on > > level 2, bats on level 3, skeletons on level 4 and apparently vampires on > level 5 though I never made it to that stage. > > Again though it was the randomly occurring mazes and artifacts, the need to > > explore, plus the introduction of new hazards that made the game > addictive, indeed now I think about it it would make a pretty awsome audio > games since you only ever jumped sidewise and climbed up and down, provided > > of course the randomly generating levels could be fixed. > > Then again, people would probably not likethe difficulty. You had only 10 > > bullets for your gun which didn't even work on ghosts (the most common > enemies), and only had ten hits before you died. You also had no extra > lives or anything else, just ten hits, though you got another ten each level > > although you also had more enemies to face too. That was why level 4 with > the skeletons was the furthest I ever got. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
those retro consoles are actually pretty good. My dad had one called a power joy which came with about 30 games including joust, packman, defender karate and several versions of space invaders. I particularly liked that one since I got to try several early nes games and atari 2600 games I never got to play as a child (since we never own ed a nes). I particularly liked Ice climbers (which I have since found a Gba copy of), and Balloon fight, which reminded me a lot of joust though was to my mind more fun with slightly more enemy types. what I find particularly notable now n those games is that it was always something to see a new kind of enemy. I remember for example rowland on the ropes, a favourite game of mine on our old Amstrad cpc computer, where the levels were all randomly generating mazes with the same background, (climbing through ropes in an egyptian tomb), however it was the fact that each level introduced a different enemy type. Ghosts on level 1, mummies on level 2, bats on level 3, skeletons on level 4 and apparently vampires on level 5 though I never made it to that stage. Again though it was the randomly occurring mazes and artifacts, the need to explore, plus the introduction of new hazards that made the game addictive, indeed now I think about it it would make a pretty awsome audio games since you only ever jumped sidewise and climbed up and down, provided of course the randomly generating levels could be fixed. Then again, people would probably not likethe difficulty. You had only 10 bullets for your gun which didn't even work on ghosts (the most common enemies), and only had ten hits before you died. You also had no extra lives or anything else, just ten hits, though you got another ten each level although you also had more enemies to face too. That was why level 4 with the skeletons was the furthest I ever got. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online
Hi Tom. Yep, I know about the emulators, though I couldn't remember the specific name of the Atari 2600 one, though I have run emulators in the past. It was more that if the games were simply available online I'd go and give them a try than looking for specific games though i probably should try an emulator for my favourites. Generaly if I fancy playing something classic I'll check retroremakes as they've had some really nice remakes of classic games, indeed I've got a rather fun centipeed one called millenipeed, which is the same game but with more colourful explosions and proper music and sfx. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Internet Archive puts classic games online Hi Dark, Have you considered installing Stella for Windows? Stella is an Atari 2600 emulator for Windows, Mac, and Linux and you can play pretty much anything for the 2600 that was developed. I happen to have a couple hundred roms backed up on my external drive including Space Invaders, Asteroids, Centipede, Time Pilot, and so on. I believe I have the rom for Berserk as well, but I'd have to look. Cheers! On 12/28/13, dark wrote: I'm with dave on this, indeed while I still have my snes and megadrive, my Atari 2600 that I had when I was 5 or 6 is no longer around and it'd be nice to play joust and berzerk again. One interesting fact however, is that from a low vision perspective, smart phones and such for retro games have screens that are just too small, at least for me, which is why if I wanted to play Joust, space invaders or similar I'd need a full desktop version. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
