[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Game photo gallery
Yeah, I agree, Cee. She looks like a hot dog with onions. ;-) Randy - Original Message - From: Cecilia To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Game photo gallery Um, ew... http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/local/orl-uf-fsu-photos-2008,0,6717012.photogallery?index=orl-uf.fsu.fans.0220081129172032 Cee - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Game photo gallery ...right, great pictures. Some of fan pics are awesome too ;-) On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Helen Huntley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/local/orl-uf-fsu-photos-2008,0,6717012.photogallery Very nice photos. Esp. check out those in the mid 30s of Tebow covered with FSU end zone paint --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
All he had to do was don a gator jersey to win my vote. But then, I am a shamelessly shallow person with little patience for the process. To me, it's NOT all black and white - it's either orange and blue or not. Randy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:27 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post If I had a Heisman vote, this would make me vote for TT for sure!!! - DOING IT ALL For his day-into-night's work, Tebow carried the football 16 times Saturday for 80 net yards and that ramrod touchdown, and despite the elements he completed 12 of 21 passes for 185 more yards and three more scores. His 265 yards of total offense and four touchdowns in less than 3 ½ quarters qualified as -- if there can be such a thing -- typically extraordinary. (You have reached a sweet spot in sports when your excellence is assumed.) Oh yeah, Tebow also recovered teammate Emmanuel Moody's fumble, threw a hellacious block for Harvin and made the tackle after teammate Jeffery Demps' lost fumble. Tebow did everything Saturday except stop the rain, play the clarinet at halftime and write a headline for this column === In Saturday's Soak at Doak, for instance, a waterlogged 45-15 Florida clobbering of Florida State, Tebow contributed the following to his already comprehensive career, which includes the first Heisman collected by a sophomore: · One smothering block on an FSU free safety to spring Percy Harvin around the corner for Florida's first touchdown. · One tackle of an FSU defensive end, who recovered a fumble by Gator running back Jeffery Demps and went 2 yards backwards after coming in contact with Tebow. · One fumble recovery, when teammate Emmanuel Moody coughed up the ball. · Oh, and here's one that won't show up anywhere. One time drawing double-coverage from the FSU secondary on a flea-flicker play that was designed for wide receiver Louis Murphy to hit Tebow for a touchdown pass. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:18 PM, JunoGator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] No. 2 Gators could be without 2 defensive linemen
No. 2 Gators could be without 2 defensive linemen 7 hours, 8 minutes ago Printable ViewReturn to Original Muddy BCS picture Muddy BCS picture Latest Top 25 pollSooners maul Texas TechFlorida routs Citadel More NCAAF Videos GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP)-No. 2 Florida could be without two defensive linemen against top-ranked Alabama in the Southeastern Conference championship game Saturday. Matt Patchan has a torn medial collateral ligament in his left knee, defensive line coach Dan McCarney said Sunday night, and the freshman won't play again this season. Patchan won't have surgery, but probably won't return until after spring practice. Patchan, who has seven tackles and 1 1/2 sacks in 10 games this season, hurt his knee last weekend against The Citadel. Defensive tackle Brandon Antwine, who missed the first five games of the season while recovering from back surgery, sprained a knee in the second half Saturday at Florida State. Coach Urban Meyer said Antwine is "probably doubtful" against the Crimson Tide. "He's not moving around at all," Meyer said. The good news for Florida is Lawrence Marsh, the player Antwine replaced in the starting lineup against the Seminoles, should be full-go Saturday. "He was 70 percent (against FSU)," Meyer said. "He'll be 100 percent (against Alabama)." Marsh, a sophomore defensive tackle who started the first 11 games, has 21 tackles and three sacks this season. He sprained the MCL in his left knee on the first play against The Citadel. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-floridainjuriesprov=aptype=lgns --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Tide vs. Gators: A dream matchup for the SEC title
Tide vs. Gators: A dream matchup for the SEC title By PAUL NEWBERRY, AP Sports Writer 7 hours, 35 minutes ago Printable ViewReturn to Original ATLANTA (AP)-This is what the Southeastern Conference had in mind when it started college football's first league championship game back in 1992. No. 1 vs. No. 2. The Crimson Tide vs. the Gator Chomp. Nick Saban carrying on the tradition of the Bear vs. Urban Meyer and his new-age spread offense. Top-ranked Alabama (12-0) and second-ranked Florida (11-1) finished off the regular season with resounding wins to set up the SEC's most anticipated title game ever, a contest at the Georgia Dome next Saturday afternoon in what essentially serves as a semifinal for the BCS championship. The winner is all but assured of a spot in the Jan. 8 title game at Miami. "We're extremely proud of the way our team finished the season," said Saban, the coach who needed only two years to restore Alabama to national prominence. "To win 12 games in a season is pretty special to any group of players." Now, it's on to the Georgia Dome for a game that should have a bit of a Kumbayah feel for the Crimson Tide. On that very same field, they opened the season with a 34-10 blowout of Clemson, a team that was ranked in the top 10 and expected to win the Atlantic Coast Conference. The Tigers never recovered-and the Tide never looked back. Bama built a stunning 31-0 halftime lead on preseason No. 1 Georgia, survived an overtime thriller against LSU in Saban's return to his former school, and blew out Auburn 36-0 this past weekend to emphatically snap a six-year losing streak to its most bitter rival. Next up is the stiffest challenge yet. Other than a stunning 31-30 loss to Mississippi in late September, Florida has not been seriously challenged by anyone. The Gators are the nation's third highest-scoring team (46.3 points per game) and their 11 wins have come by an average margin of 37.3. Even though Alabama is unbeaten, it likely will go into the game as an underdog. Many are already sneaking a peak at what would appear to be the most appealing national championship possibility, a better-bring-your-calculator matchup between the Gators and No. 4 Oklahoma, which leads the nation with a 53.3-point scoring average heading into the Big 12 championship game against Missouri. Saban shrugged off that sort of speculation. "It doesn't matter," he said Sunday evening. "Florida has played really well and scored a lot of points. They haven't even had a close game other than the Ole Miss game. They are a dominant team. They deserve all the accolades their team gets, because they've played extremely well all year long." So has Alabama, though not with the flair of the Tim Tebow-led Gators. The Tide prefers to pound teams into submission with a dominant running game, hit a big pass every now and then, win the special teams battle and come up with turnovers at just the right time. "We're just going to go out and do what we do," massive noseguard Terrence Cody said. "If we play our game, we can beat anybody." For those who may have forgotten, this is a throwback to the early days of the SEC championship. These teams met in the first three title games, starting with Alabama's 28-21 victory over the Gators on the way to its last national championship in 1992. After a one-year layoff, Florida romped to a 45-30 victory against the Tide in ‘96 and went on to capture its first national title. They haven't faced off on this stage since 1999, when the Tide blew out Steve Spurrier and the Gators 34-7 for one of the rare highlights in the Mike DuBose era. "I know there's a lot of history between these teams," said Meyer, who has his team two victories away from its second national title in three years. "I've done a lot of studying since I've been here." But Meyer prefers to look forward. His most pressing issue is the health of Percy Harvin, whose breakneck speed makes him a lethal weapon out of the spread but may not be able to play against Alabama after spraining his right ankle in a 45-15 victory over Florida State. "It's day to day," Meyer said in a Sunday teleconference from Gainesville. "He certainly won't practice the first couple of days this week. He is here today and moving around a little bit. We'll see what happens." Harvin leads the Gators with 35 receptions for 595 yards and seven touchdowns, but he's equally dangerous whether catching a pass or taking a handoff. He has 61 carries for 538 yards, not to mention the nation's longest touchdown scoring streak of 14 consecutive games. While Harvin's injury was a bit of a downer, it hardly lessened Florida's enthusiasm about playing for another SEC title. "Our whole offseason was based on getting back to Atlanta," defensive star Brandon Spikes said. "Just sensing all the hard work, it's just been great, this whole road, the whole season. I think guys are ready.
[gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List...
Darn USPS! I'm closer to Gainesville than YOU are, but you got yours before me. Knowing the USPS, they probably fly the mail to Nashville and then truck it back down to Chattanooga. Hey! We DO have an airport here! ;-) Randy - Original Message - From: Wanda Barry To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:22 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List... A great Gator shout-out to you, Bill!!! Thank you again and again for all the trouble and time you take to give us all the best Gator moments. I got my DVD and can't wait to watch it. Wanda - Original Message - From: Cecilia To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List... Bill, you are a good Gator, man. Thanks! Cee - Original Message - From: Bill Hood aka mrgatorman To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: [gatortalk] DVD Recipient List... Heres the list of the first group. Scott Lucas Brian Hicks Tom Kiser Helen Huntley Jerry Belloit Ken Beitler Oliver Barry Mary Weigly Wanda Barry Badrish Davanagere GINNY WATERS Ken Kirkley Ed Williamson Randy Lyons Shane Ford Bill Hileman The second group still to be mailed is: Richard Sahlie Rob Alexander Randy Platt Mark Weigly Troy Luttrell Cecilia Miller A. Leon Polhill If theres anyone else who wants one and not on either list, please let me know and send your addy. I have a gmail as well if that works better. [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], those are the best ones to get me at. Or call or text me at 954-673-6214. my cell and If I don't answer for whatever reason, leave a message. Gotta Love It !!! GO GATORS !!! mrgatorman -- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:38 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! Same here. :-( Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! That may explain why mine hasn't come yet. I sent my request directly to him instead of sending it to GT. Randy Lyons Sent wirelessly From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:33 PM To: gatortalk gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! Bill, this mail bounced back...so sending to GatorTalk! Thanks. -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM Subject: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! To: Bill Hood - TCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] It arrived in the mail today...and it's certainly a treasure! Thanks again. -BadMan BR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR
on the radio just now that notre dame is courting urban meyer again. I dont think he would leave now and give up all that he has built... but where is my valium. Woody (via wireless) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR
I dont need this right now. Woody (via wireless) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: 12/1/2008 7:59 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/nov/30/david-moulton-urban-meyer-obvious-answer-notre-dam/ Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR From: Woody (via wireless) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, December 01, 2008 7:48 am To: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com on the radio just now that notre dame is courting urban meyer again. I dont think he would leave now and give up all that he has built... but where is my valium. Woody (via wireless) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR
I don't really know what to say. I hadn't really thought about the possibility of Meyer leaving Florida. Obviously, I would hate to see that happen, but in all honesty, I also can't see it happening anytime soon. Maybe if we were to level out for a couple of years and not show any potential for growth, he might get the itch, but not now. Randy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:59 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/nov/30/david-moulton-urban-meyer-obvious-answer-notre-dam/ Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR From: Woody (via wireless) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, December 01, 2008 7:48 am To: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com on the radio just now that notre dame is courting urban meyer again. I dont think he would leave now and give up all that he has built... but where is my valium. Woody (via wireless) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR
Wow, this writer really goes out on a limb. First, Peter Kerasotis of Fl Today already wrote this article about two weeks ago. Second, it is all complete supposition on both their parts.Coach turned down his "Dream Job" once, what has changed that would make him want to take it now? Nothing. He took Florida over ND because a) it is easier to recruit in Florida - you will spend more time at home with a young family rather than flying all over the country from South Bend; b) it is easier to win at UF, with better player base, facilities and a premier conference.In addition, he now has a daughter going to school in Atlanta - a school she chose in part to be close to home, he and his family have invested themselves in the Hogtown community and have a close bond with the Donovans.He still has a challenge here and I think he enjoys coaching this team. He has worked very hard over the past 4 years to get us to this level, I believe he will want to stay and reap the rewards of his hard work.He may leave for ND one day, but not now. Maybe in 5 years after another couple of MNCs and UFs first perfect season he leaves, but not now. I don't believe he will be here until he retires, I think the UF fans are by and large spoiled and never content, and that will ultimately drive any coach into calmer pastures. Just ask SOS...Ken K. MNGator Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Re: I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR From: "Woody (via wireless)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, December 01, 2008 7:33 am To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com I dont need this right now. Woody (via wireless) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: 12/1/2008 7:59 AM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/nov/30/david-moulton-urban-meyer-obvious-answer-notre-dam/ Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] I KNOW I JUST DIDNT HEAR From: "Woody (via wireless)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, December 01, 2008 7:48 am To: Gatortalk Gatortalk@googlegroups.com on the radio just now that notre dame is courting urban meyer again. I dont think he would leave now and give up all that he has built... but where is my valium. Woody (via wireless) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List...
Bill, THANK YOU SOOO MUCH for my copy! I got it Friday here in Middle TN. I would have said some thing earlier, but I was away from my PC all weekend until this AM. I've already watched it a couple of times and thoroughly enjoyed it. THANK YOU!! Shane Ford GO GATORS!! BEAT BAMA!!! -- Original message from "Bill Hood aka mrgatorman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Heres the list of the first group… Scott Lucas Brian Hicks Tom Kiser Helen Huntley Jerry Belloit Ken Beitler Oliver Barry Mary Weigly Wanda Barry Badrish Davanagere GINNY WATERS Ken Kirkley Ed Williamson Randy Lyons Shane Ford Bill Hileman The second group still to be mailed is: Richard Sahlie Rob Alexander Randy Platt Mark Weigly Troy Luttrell Cecilia Miller A. Leon Polhill If theres anyone else who wants one and not on either list, please let me know and send your addy. I have a gmail as well if that works better… [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], those are the best ones to get me at. Or call or text me at 954-673-6214. my cell and If I don’t answer for whatever reason, leave a message. Gotta Love It !!! GO GATORS !!! mrgatorman From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CeciliaSent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:38 PMTo: Gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatortalk] Re: Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! Same here. :-( Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! That may explain why mine hasn't come yet. I sent my request directly to him instead of sending it to GT.Randy LyonsSent wirelessly From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:33 PMTo: gatortalk gatortalk@googlegroups.comSubject: [gatortalk] Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD!Bill, this mail bounced back...so sending to GatorTalk! Thanks. -- Forwarded message --From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:15 PMSubject: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD!To: Bill Hood - TCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]It arrived in the mail today...and it's certainly a treasure!Thanks again.-BadMan BR No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comVersion: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us-~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
On Nov 28, 2008, at 8:45 AM, JunoGator wrote: “When you start talking about who goes to a conference championship because of voting, that’s just not right,” Meyer said. “It’s not my business, it’s not my conference. I’m not sure the SEC has that rule (highest BCS team gets to play for the conference title). If it does then I’ll probably make sure I get involved in that.” The way to break a three team tie is pretty easy, it's net margin of victory among the three teams. It seems that the BCS and the standard method would yield the same result. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
In the case of a three way tie the highest ranked SEC team would go too. Isn't that what happened between us, Georgia and Tennessee? Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:43 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Nov 28, 2008, at 8:45 AM, JunoGator wrote: When you start talking about who goes to a conference championship because of voting, that's just not right, Meyer said. It's not my business, it's not my conference. I'm not sure the SEC has that rule (highest BCS team gets to play for the conference title). If it does then I'll probably make sure I get involved in that. The way to break a three team tie is pretty easy, it's net margin of victory among the three teams. It seems that the BCS and the standard method would yield the same result. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.jpg
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
On Nov 30, 2008, at 12:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worry because on some plays, it seemed as if F$U was running right through our defensive line. I think the absence of Marsh (and, to a lesser degree, Patchan) was a factor here. Throw in Antwine, and this is a real concern. I remember a certain Sugar Bowl against Notre Dame after a lineman was injured. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
I think alot of the special teams fiasco from this past weekend was due to the weather conditions. Since, UM himself is the special teams guru at Florida... I have a feeling that they will have something special planned for the game this weekend since the weather wont be a factor. Woody On Dec 1, 2008 12:00pm, John Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 30, 2008, at 12:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worry because on some plays, it seemed as if F$U was running right through our defensive line. I think the absence of Marsh (and, to a lesser degree, Patchan) was a factor here. Throw in Antwine, and this is a real concern. I remember a certain Sugar Bowl against Notre Dame after a lineman was injured. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
Boy, isn't THAT the truth! Also, is it true that artificial turf makes a fast team faster? Randy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama I think alot of the special teams fiasco from this past weekend was due to the weather conditions. Since, UM himself is the special teams guru at Florida... I have a feeling that they will have something special planned for the game this weekend since the weather wont be a factor. Woody On Dec 1, 2008 12:00pm, John Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 30, 2008, at 12:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worry because on some plays, it seemed as if F$U was running right through our defensive line. I think the absence of Marsh (and, to a lesser degree, Patchan) was a factor here. Throw in Antwine, and this is a real concern. I remember a certain Sugar Bowl against Notre Dame after a lineman was injured. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:00 AM, JunoGator wrote: The national championship game in Miami on Jan. 8 will pair one team each from the two best conferences in football (Big12 and SEC) - just as it should be. One of those teams will be Alabama or Florida - just as it should be. The other will be either Texas as Oklahoma - yes, just as it should be. Who said the system doesn't work? Pete Carroll might have an argument. Unlike texas, Southern Cal won its conference. If it weren't for the artificial restriction on margin of victory, the computers would likely have Southern Cal as #1 in the country. See Sagarin here: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm Predictor is his real formula, the one Sagarin used before the BCS made him drop margin of victory. Note that Florida is the only other team anywhere close to Southern Cal. Texas and Oklahoma are a far cry behnd. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
I was at the game..a whole nuther story, trust me! That field was beyond slick. A distinct advantage to an offense---they know where they're going. A defensive player trying to get there or changing directions ends up on the ground. It happened all game for both sides. You should have seen the tuba players going down. That's gotta hurt. I think our speed will show up big time on turf. Florida 38---Bama 17. From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:20 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama Boy, isn't THAT the truth! Also, is it true that artificial turf makes a fast team faster? Randy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama I think alot of the special teams fiasco from this past weekend was due to the weather conditions. Since, UM himself is the special teams guru at Florida... I have a feeling that they will have something special planned for the game this weekend since the weather wont be a factor. Woody On Dec 1, 2008 12:00pm, John Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 30, 2008, at 12:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worry because on some plays, it seemed as if F$U was running right through our defensive line. I think the absence of Marsh (and, to a lesser degree, Patchan) was a factor here. Throw in Antwine, and this is a real concern. I remember a certain Sugar Bowl against Notre Dame after a lineman was injured. -Zeb BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Smellinolies cheered...ALL of them, when Percy got hurt!!!!
Drool? Arrests? Clown behavior? French fries? Pizzas? A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:06 PM To: gatortalk Subject: [gatortalk] Smellinolies cheered...ALL of them, when Percy got hurt [This is from a Pat Dooley article...] What their fans did when Percy got hurt is one of the first times I've ever seen almost a whole stadium cheer, Tebow said. I think that shows not very good sportsmanship. That kind of irritated me. I told the coaches just to get me the ball because I want to hit someone extremely hard the next play. I was a little shocked. It's a rivalry, but we're still playing a game. On the second play after Harvin's injury, Tebow barreled into the end zone from four yards out carrying FSU's biggest defenders with him, moving the pile with great determination. Memo to opposing teams: Never make Tebow angry. wow...wow...wow!!! that's 100% unsportsmanship like conduct...but what the hell else can you expect from those idiots!!! -BadMan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.gif
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
I agree that the rain soaked heavy footballs were likely hard to get great distance from. It's ironic - after the Kentucky game, on the post game locker room show Meyer gushed on and on about the kick coverage team - calling them the best he's ever been around. Since that game they've been poor. I noticed that during the South Carolina game Will Hill, who's probably made the majority of our tackles on kickoffs this year, was not on that unit. He was this past weekend, so that can't be blamed for the poor coverage. I think it was a combination of the wet fields and the fact that some blatant holding and illegal block penalties committed by the semis went uncalled (there was however a flag on every decent return we had). Meyer loves to pin the KO returner in a corner and stop them short of the twenty, or even the ten if we can. He's a field position maniac. But I hope that the facts that 'bama is not a quick strike team, the seeming slump by our KO coverage team, a very good Tide return man in Arinas, and a dry ball convinces him to tell Sturgis to put the kickoffs into the stands behind the goalposts! Make them try and go the full 80, I don't think we can get away with giving them a short field all day the way we did against 1/2assu. --- On Mon, 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think alot of the special teams fiasco from this past weekend was due to the weather conditions. Since, UM himself is the special teams guru at Florida... I have a feeling that they will have something special planned for the game this weekend since the weather wont be a factor. Woody --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
Our special teams against the half-assed ewe were terrible. We were kept in poor field position and the ewes were given great field position most of the possessions in the game. That cannot happen against the evil Saban tidal slime if we expect to win. Special teams have been great all year until the ewes appeared. We must refocus and execute. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gatorr Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:33 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] VS. Bama Ok.. its time to get this convo started. Bama. Biggest concern? Any concerns? A lot of pundit types are saying for as different as they are stylistically. they match up pretty well (Os v Ds, etc). I think I agree, except. I think I give Florida the edge in Special teams. I think Harvin (probably) being out for the game. doesn't help. but we have finally started to use the entire arsenal. so Im not too concerned there. I do not think this will be a one sided affair. However, I said that for the last several games to prepare myself in case well. just in case. lol I think it will probably be pretty close unless one team can somehow shut the other Offense down. I don't see that happening though. You stir on that while I go start the valium now. :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups GatorTalk group. To post to this group, send email to Gatortalk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Gatortalk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.gif
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
At last, a tuba defense. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:28 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama I was at the game..a whole nuther story, trust me! That field was beyond slick. A distinct advantage to an offense---they know where they're going. A defensive player trying to get there or changing directions ends up on the ground. It happened all game for both sides. You should have seen the tuba players going down. That's gotta hurt. I think our speed will show up big time on turf. Florida 38---Bama 17. From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gatornet Admin Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:20 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama Boy, isn't THAT the truth! Also, is it true that artificial turf makes a fast team faster? Randy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama I think alot of the special teams fiasco from this past weekend was due to the weather conditions. Since, UM himself is the special teams guru at Florida... I have a feeling that they will have something special planned for the game this weekend since the weather wont be a factor. Woody On Dec 1, 2008 12:00pm, John Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 30, 2008, at 12:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worry because on some plays, it seemed as if F$U was running right through our defensive line. I think the absence of Marsh (and, to a lesser degree, Patchan) was a factor here. Throw in Antwine, and this is a real concern. I remember a certain Sugar Bowl against Notre Dame after a lineman was injured. -Zeb BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.gif
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
I guess we'll find out in 5 days. :) On Dec 1, 2008 12:20pm, Gatornet Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boy, isn't THAT the truth! Also, is it true that artificial turf makes a fast team faster? Randy - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:14 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama I think alot of the special teams fiasco from this past weekend was due to the weather conditions. Since, UM himself is the special teams guru at Florida... I have a feeling that they will have something special planned for the game this weekend since the weather wont be a factor. Woody On Dec 1, 2008 12:00pm, John Vega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 30, 2008, at 12:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worry because on some plays, it seemed as if F$U was running right through our defensive line. I think the absence of Marsh (and, to a lesser degree, Patchan) was a factor here. Throw in Antwine, and this is a real concern. I remember a certain Sugar Bowl against Notre Dame after a lineman was injured. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Meyer loves to pin the KO returner in a corner and stop them short of the twenty, or even the ten if we can. He's a field position maniac. But I hope that the facts that 'bama is not a quick strike team, the seeming slump by our KO coverage team, a very good Tide return man in Arinas, and a dry ball convinces him to tell Sturgis to put the kickoffs into the stands behind the goalposts! Has that been what has been going on? I have wondered all year why the kicker with the strongest leg on earth has been unable to kick a ball off of a tee into the end zone. We have had a strange # of kick-offs head out of bounds as well. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
With FSU returning every kickoff to the 40, I wanted them all kicked out of bounds! From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:11 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Meyer loves to pin the KO returner in a corner and stop them short of the twenty, or even the ten if we can. He's a field position maniac. But I hope that the facts that 'bama is not a quick strike team, the seeming slump by our KO coverage team, a very good Tide return man in Arinas, and a dry ball convinces him to tell Sturgis to put the kickoffs into the stands behind the goalposts! Has that been what has been going on? I have wondered all year why the kicker with the strongest leg on earth has been unable to kick a ball off of a tee into the end zone. We have had a strange # of kick-offs head out of bounds as well. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
Yes, that has been a thing of frustration for me as well. I never could understand why we kept kicking the ball out of bounds, but now I understand. Instead of just booming it, Sturgis has been attempting to surgically place the ball in a particular spot on the field. Now, THAT must be difficult! Randy - Original Message - From: John Vega To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama On Dec 1, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Steve McKibben wrote: Meyer loves to pin the KO returner in a corner and stop them short of the twenty, or even the ten if we can. He's a field position maniac. But I hope that the facts that 'bama is not a quick strike team, the seeming slump by our KO coverage team, a very good Tide return man in Arinas, and a dry ball convinces him to tell Sturgis to put the kickoffs into the stands behind the goalposts! Has that been what has been going on? I have wondered all year why the kicker with the strongest leg on earth has been unable to kick a ball off of a tee into the end zone. We have had a strange # of kick-offs head out of bounds as well. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
I resemble that remark. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:30 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post It's going to be Oklahoma. They will destroy Missouri. Texas is just going to have to live with the fact the voters, including computers, like OK better. USC won the Pac 10. As Leon would say, so what? Gators will play OK. The system works. Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:23 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:00 AM, JunoGator wrote: The national championship game in Miami on Jan. 8 will pair one team each from the two best conferences in football (Big12 and SEC) - just as it should be. One of those teams will be Alabama or Florida - just as it should be. The other will be either Texas as Oklahoma - yes, just as it should be. Who said the system doesn't work? Pete Carroll might have an argument. Unlike texas, Southern Cal won its conference. If it weren't for the artificial restriction on margin of victory, the computers would likely have Southern Cal as #1 in the country. See Sagarin here: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm Predictor is his real formula, the one Sagarin used before the BCS made him drop margin of victory. Note that Florida is the only other team anywhere close to Southern Cal. Texas and Oklahoma are a far cry behnd. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.gifinline: image002.jpg
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Tallahassee Democrat: Gators still too much for Seminoles
Lessons not learned are to be repeated. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:21 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Tallahassee Democrat: Gators still too much for Seminoles FSU linebacker Dekoda Watson, who tied Rolle for team-high honors with seven tackles, shares his coach's optimism. He was saying all the right things, that FSU played Florida much better this year than last year. Even his praise for the Gators was tainted. He said Georgia Tech had a more complicated offense and declined to say Florida was the best team the Seminoles had faced. We may have gotten intimidated by Florida, Watson said. I wish that wasn't the case. Tim Tebow's a great athlete, but he puts his pants on the same as us. Still no respect! They never learn do they??? -BadMan On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Helen Huntley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Article published Nov 30, 2008 Gators still too much for the Seminoles Column by Doug Blackburn DEMOCRAT ASSISTANT SPORTS EDITOR It doesn't take a Rhodes Scholar to know that Florida State is not in the same league as Florida. Not this year. And not last year, or the two years before that. But when a Rhodes Scholar tries to explain what happened on the last Saturday in November, when Florida ignored a steady rain and dominated FSU 45-15, you hope to learn a little something. We were soundly beaten. We were just outplayed today, safety Myron Rolle said. Our game plan was very good. You can know what's going to happen, but if you don't make tackles and you miss assignments you're going to get beat. It got out of hand. I guess there's no way to stop them. It's that simple, according to FSU's decorated scholar-athlete. If there's a way to stop the Gators, FSU doesn't know what it is. Not with Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow directing their attack. Saturday's 45-15 loss at Doak Campbell Stadium was eerily similar to last year's 45-12 beat-down in Gainesville. There are differences, of course. Florida is 11-1 and one win away from playing for its second national championship in three years. This year's edition of UF is considerably better than last year's. For the past six weeks, the Gators have been the best team in the land. Florida State is also much better, even if Saturday's one-sided affair didn't show it. After back-to-back 7-6 seasons, the Seminoles are 8-4 going into a bowl game and tied for first place in their division of the ACC. Nine wins for 2008 is a very distinct probability. This is a football program turning the corner. That it's happening in increments rather than quantum leaps may frustrate the FSU faithful, but don't lose sight of the big picture. The Seminoles were ranked after Thanksgiving. That hasn't been the case in recent years. If that doesn't make this morning's brunch taste any better, realizing the chasm still separating FSU and Florida, imagine how perplexed Bobby Bowden is. That game surprised me because I didn't think they would beat us like that here, FSU's head coach said. The last time we had a beating like that was last year against them. I thought we would make it closer. The last time the Seminoles' legendary coach beat-arch rival Florida was 2003, when Ron Zook roamed the Gator sidelines. We'll come back, Bowden declared. All you have to do is study history. We'll ebb and flow again. They're having their day right now, but I believe Florida State will be back. Then the 79-year-old coach let slip a candid observation, one that may get lost among all the second-day analysis of FSU's fourth loss of the season. He was still talking about Florida State's revival: Somebody'll see it. It might happen when I'm here - but I doubt it. I don't know. Bowden was in no mood to dwell on his future, not when the immediate past was so painful. FSU linebacker Dekoda Watson, who tied Rolle for team-high honors with seven tackles, shares his coach's optimism. He was saying all the right things, that FSU played Florida much better this year than last year. Even his praise for the Gators was tainted. He said Georgia Tech had a more complicated offense and declined to say Florida was the best team the Seminoles had faced. We may have gotten intimidated by Florida, Watson said. I wish that wasn't the case. Tim Tebow's a great athlete, but he puts his pants on the same as us. Yes, but he has that cape. The Seminoles' quest for their own superhero continues. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Tallahassee Democrat: Gators still too much for Seminoles
Only Cee would know for sure. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:29 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Tallahassee Democrat: Gators still too much for Seminoles Who cares? Really. Why do we need to hear any sign of respect from those clowns, Bad? Tebow does put his pants on the same as the rest of them, but THEY don't have a CAPE like he does. LMAO. Cee - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Tallahassee Democrat: Gators still too much for Seminoles FSU linebacker Dekoda Watson, who tied Rolle for team-high honors with seven tackles, shares his coach's optimism. He was saying all the right things, that FSU played Florida much better this year than last year. Even his praise for the Gators was tainted. He said Georgia Tech had a more complicated offense and declined to say Florida was the best team the Seminoles had faced. We may have gotten intimidated by Florida, Watson said. I wish that wasn't the case. Tim Tebow's a great athlete, but he puts his pants on the same as us. Still no respect! They never learn do they??? -BadMan On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Helen Huntley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Article published Nov 30, 2008 Gators still too much for the Seminoles Column by Doug Blackburn DEMOCRAT ASSISTANT SPORTS EDITOR It doesn't take a Rhodes Scholar to know that Florida State is not in the same league as Florida. Not this year. And not last year, or the two years before that. But when a Rhodes Scholar tries to explain what happened on the last Saturday in November, when Florida ignored a steady rain and dominated FSU 45-15, you hope to learn a little something. We were soundly beaten. We were just outplayed today, safety Myron Rolle said. Our game plan was very good. You can know what's going to happen, but if you don't make tackles and you miss assignments you're going to get beat. It got out of hand. I guess there's no way to stop them. It's that simple, according to FSU's decorated scholar-athlete. If there's a way to stop the Gators, FSU doesn't know what it is. Not with Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow directing their attack. Saturday's 45-15 loss at Doak Campbell Stadium was eerily similar to last year's 45-12 beat-down in Gainesville. There are differences, of course. Florida is 11-1 and one win away from playing for its second national championship in three years. This year's edition of UF is considerably better than last year's. For the past six weeks, the Gators have been the best team in the land. Florida State is also much better, even if Saturday's one-sided affair didn't show it. After back-to-back 7-6 seasons, the Seminoles are 8-4 going into a bowl game and tied for first place in their division of the ACC. Nine wins for 2008 is a very distinct probability. This is a football program turning the corner. That it's happening in increments rather than quantum leaps may frustrate the FSU faithful, but don't lose sight of the big picture. The Seminoles were ranked after Thanksgiving. That hasn't been the case in recent years. If that doesn't make this morning's brunch taste any better, realizing the chasm still separating FSU and Florida, imagine how perplexed Bobby Bowden is. That game surprised me because I didn't think they would beat us like that here, FSU's head coach said. The last time we had a beating like that was last year against them. I thought we would make it closer. The last time the Seminoles' legendary coach beat-arch rival Florida was 2003, when Ron Zook roamed the Gator sidelines. We'll come back, Bowden declared. All you have to do is study history. We'll ebb and flow again. They're having their day right now, but I believe Florida State will be back. Then the 79-year-old coach let slip a candid observation, one that may get lost among all the second-day analysis of FSU's fourth loss of the season. He was still talking about Florida State's revival: Somebody'll see it. It might happen when I'm here - but I doubt it. I don't know. Bowden was in no mood to dwell on his future, not when the immediate past was so painful. FSU linebacker Dekoda Watson, who tied Rolle for team-high honors with seven tackles, shares his coach's optimism. He was saying all the right things, that FSU played Florida much better this year than last year. Even his praise for the Gators was tainted. He said Georgia Tech had a more complicated offense and declined to say Florida was the best team the Seminoles had faced. We may have gotten intimidated by Florida, Watson said. I wish that wasn't the case. Tim Tebow's a great athlete, but he
[gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List...
Could be Save the best for last... Or LILO... Bill A. Leon Polhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since somebody has to be last on the list.I'm going to do my duty! Thanks, Bill. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hood aka mrgatorman Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:24 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] DVD Recipient List... Heres the list of the first group. Scott Lucas Brian Hicks Tom Kiser Helen Huntley Jerry Belloit Ken Beitler Oliver Barry Mary Weigly Wanda Barry Badrish Davanagere GINNY WATERS Ken Kirkley Ed Williamson Randy Lyons Shane Ford Bill Hileman The second group still to be mailed is: Richard Sahlie Rob Alexander Randy Platt Mark Weigly Troy Luttrell Cecilia Miller A. Leon Polhill If theres anyone else who wants one and not on either list, please let me know and send your addy. I have a gmail as well if that works better. [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], those are the best ones to get me at. Or call or text me at 954-673-6214. my cell and If I don't answer for whatever reason, leave a message. Gotta Love It !!! GO GATORS !!! mrgatorman _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:38 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! Same here. :-( Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! That may explain why mine hasn't come yet. I sent my request directly to him instead of sending it to GT. Randy Lyons Sent wirelessly _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:33 PM To: gatortalk gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! Bill, this mail bounced back...so sending to GatorTalk! Thanks. -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM Subject: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! To: Bill Hood - TCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] It arrived in the mail today...and it's certainly a treasure! Thanks again. -BadMan BR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List...
On Dec 1, 2008, at 4:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be Save the best for last... Or LILO... Pearls before the swine? -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List...
Bill, your LILO is LOLO. HAHAHAHAHA Now that is funny - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Cc: A. Leon Polhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:27 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List... Could be Save the best for last... Or LILO... Bill A. Leon Polhill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since somebody has to be last on the list.I'm going to do my duty! Thanks, Bill. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hood aka mrgatorman Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:24 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] DVD Recipient List... Heres the list of the first group. Scott Lucas Brian Hicks Tom Kiser Helen Huntley Jerry Belloit Ken Beitler Oliver Barry Mary Weigly Wanda Barry Badrish Davanagere GINNY WATERS Ken Kirkley Ed Williamson Randy Lyons Shane Ford Bill Hileman The second group still to be mailed is: Richard Sahlie Rob Alexander Randy Platt Mark Weigly Troy Luttrell Cecilia Miller A. Leon Polhill If theres anyone else who wants one and not on either list, please let me know and send your addy. I have a gmail as well if that works better. [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], those are the best ones to get me at. Or call or text me at 954-673-6214. my cell and If I don't answer for whatever reason, leave a message. Gotta Love It !!! GO GATORS !!! mrgatorman _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cecilia Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:38 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! Same here. :-( Cee - Original Message - From: Gatornet Admin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! That may explain why mine hasn't come yet. I sent my request directly to him instead of sending it to GT. Randy Lyons Sent wirelessly _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 8:33 PM To: gatortalk gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Fwd: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! Bill, this mail bounced back...so sending to GatorTalk! Thanks. -- Forwarded message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:15 PM Subject: Thank you, Sir Hood, for the DVD! To: Bill Hood - TCI [EMAIL PROTECTED] It arrived in the mail today...and it's certainly a treasure! Thanks again. -BadMan BR No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Percy Harvin
I just watched the Meyer Monday press conference. He says Percy was giving him the thumbs up today in the training room. Percy will wear a boot until Thursday and be re-evaluated then. But, it looks very good that he'll be able to play. Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.jpg
[gatortalk] Re: Percy Harvin
Yea... I just heard the guy on the local ESPN radio show say that too that its not as bad as initially thought. I am sure he will probably be limited if he is able to play Saturday. Woody On Dec 1, 2008 4:42pm, Oliver Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just watched the Meyer Monday press conference. He says Percy was giving him the thumbs up today in the training room. Percy will wear a boot until Thursday and be re-evaluated then. But, it looks very good that he’ll be able to play. Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List...
Check out Mount Polhill above Wellington. A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:32 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List... On Dec 1, 2008, at 4:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could be Save the best for last... Or LILO... Pearls before the swine? -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.gif
[gatortalk] Pick 'em results
The Mighty Gators just keep on keepin' on, huh? We blasted the sorry ol' Noles Saturday night, and put even MORE distance between the two programs. All I can say to the Semis is nice to meet ya, sorry 'bout the mess, thanks for the help, see ya later. We had a pretty good week in Pick 'em, with Eric Bunce finishing first, leading the way at 13-2. Second place was a 5-way tie among Brian Hicks, David Lloveras, Mike Clark, Shawn Kopelakis, and Tom Clarke at 12-3. And a bunch of folks came in third, at 11-4. For the long-awaited Year-To-Date Champion (drum roll, please), let's put our hands together for Bill Perpich!! (Sound of crowd roaring).. Bill finished at the top, 100-78. A big tie for second at 98-80 included Fran Lasseter, Jason Schmidt, John Bowers (ahem), Ken Kirkley, Ozzie Sabina (ahem), and Woody Bass. Third place belonged to Brad Reckamp, at 97-81. The regular season is over, thanks to everyone for playing once again this year, and I s'pose we'll get another Bowl Game Extravaganza together soon. Watch this space, and BEAT ALABAMA!!! http://pickem.g8r.com John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Pick 'em results
Nothing like coming through in the clutch - going 7-9 in the final week to lose first place. Daggummit, I could have used the prize money for Christmas, it sure did come in handy last year...Ken K. MNGator Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results From: "John Bowers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, December 01, 2008 4:46 pm To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Mighty Gators just keep on keepin' on, huh? We blasted the sorry ol' Noles Saturday night, and put even MORE distance between the two programs. All I can say to the Semis is nice to meet ya, sorry 'bout the mess, thanks for the help, see ya later. We had a pretty good week in Pick 'em, with Eric Bunce finishing first, leading the way at 13-2. Second place was a 5-way tie among Brian Hicks, David Lloveras, Mike Clark, Shawn Kopelakis, and Tom Clarke at 12-3. And a bunch of folks came in third, at 11-4. For the long-awaited Year-To-Date Champion (drum roll, please), let's put our hands together for Bill Perpich!! (Sound of crowd roaring)…… Bill finished at the top, 100-78. A big tie for second at 98-80 included Fran Lasseter, Jason Schmidt, John Bowers (ahem), Ken Kirkley, Ozzie Sabina (ahem), and Woody Bass. Third place belonged to Brad Reckamp, at 97-81. The regular season is over, thanks to everyone for playing once again this year, and I s'pose we'll get another Bowl Game Extravaganza together soon. Watch this space, and BEAT ALABAMA!!! http://pickem.g8r.com John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Pick 'em results
WOO!!! GOOO ME! On Dec 1, 2008 5:51pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing like coming through in the clutch - going 7-9 in the final week to lose first place. Daggummit, I could have used the prize money for Christmas, it sure did come in handy last year... Ken K. MNGator Original Message Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results From: John Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, December 01, 2008 4:46 pm To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Mighty Gators just keep on keepin' on, huh? We blasted the sorry ol' Noles Saturday night, and put even MORE distance between the two programs. All I can say to the Semis is nice to meet ya, sorry 'bout the mess, thanks for the help, see ya later. We had a pretty good week in Pick 'em, with Eric Bunce finishing first, leading the way at 13-2. Second place was a 5-way tie among Brian Hicks, David Lloveras, Mike Clark, Shawn Kopelakis, and Tom Clarke at 12-3. And a bunch of folks came in third, at 11-4. For the long-awaited Year-To-Date Champion (drum roll, please), let's put our hands together for Bill Perpich!! (Sound of crowd roaring)…… Bill finished at the top, 100-78. A big tie for second at 98-80 included Fran Lasseter, Jason Schmidt, John Bowers (ahem), Ken Kirkley, Ozzie Sabina (ahem), and Woody Bass. Third place belonged to Brad Reckamp, at 97-81. The regular season is over, thanks to everyone for playing once again this year, and I s'pose we'll get another Bowl Game Extravaganza together soon. Watch this space, and BEAT ALABAMA!!! http://pickem.g8r.com John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: Pick 'em results
I'm going to be sick. ;-)
Randy
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Subject: [gatortalk] Re: Pick 'em results
WOO!!! GOOO ME!
On Dec 1, 2008 5:51pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nothing like coming through in the clutch - going 7-9 in the final week to
lose first place. Daggummit, I could have used the prize money for Christmas,
it sure did come in handy last year...
Ken K.
MNGator
Original Message
Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results
From: John Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, December 01, 2008 4:46 pm
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Mighty Gators just keep on keepin' on, huh? We blasted the sorry ol'
Noles
Saturday night, and put even MORE distance between the two programs. All
I can say to
the Semis is nice to meet ya, sorry 'bout the mess, thanks for the help,
see ya later.
We had a pretty good week in Pick 'em, with Eric Bunce finishing first,
leading the way at 13-2.
Second place was a 5-way tie among Brian Hicks, David Lloveras, Mike Clark,
Shawn
Kopelakis, and Tom Clarke at 12-3. And a bunch of folks came in third, at
11-4.
For the long-awaited Year-To-Date Champion (drum roll, please), let's put
our
hands together for Bill Perpich!!
(Sound of crowd roaring)……
Bill finished at the top, 100-78. A big tie for
second at 98-80 included Fran Lasseter, Jason Schmidt, John Bowers (ahem),
Ken
Kirkley, Ozzie Sabina (ahem), and Woody Bass. Third place belonged to Brad
Reckamp, at
97-81.
The regular season is over, thanks to everyone for playing once again this
year,
and I s'pose we'll get another Bowl Game Extravaganza together soon. Watch
this space,
and BEAT ALABAMA!!!
http://pickem.g8r.com
John
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[gatortalk] Re: Pick 'em results
I hate this game! I tied for 51st place with almost half of Gator Nation! Well, at least I know that Bill Kellermier is still alive. He finished just above me tied at 42nd place. 42 William Kellermier 88 90 49% If anyone sees or talks to him, ask him to drop me an email. Randy - Original Message - From: John Bowers To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:46 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Pick 'em results The Mighty Gators just keep on keepin' on, huh? We blasted the sorry ol' Noles Saturday night, and put even MORE distance between the two programs. All I can say to the Semis is nice to meet ya, sorry 'bout the mess, thanks for the help, see ya later. We had a pretty good week in Pick 'em, with Eric Bunce finishing first, leading the way at 13-2. Second place was a 5-way tie among Brian Hicks, David Lloveras, Mike Clark, Shawn Kopelakis, and Tom Clarke at 12-3. And a bunch of folks came in third, at 11-4. For the long-awaited Year-To-Date Champion (drum roll, please), let's put our hands together for Bill Perpich!! (Sound of crowd roaring).. Bill finished at the top, 100-78. A big tie for second at 98-80 included Fran Lasseter, Jason Schmidt, John Bowers (ahem), Ken Kirkley, Ozzie Sabina (ahem), and Woody Bass. Third place belonged to Brad Reckamp, at 97-81. The regular season is over, thanks to everyone for playing once again this year, and I s'pose we'll get another Bowl Game Extravaganza together soon. Watch this space, and BEAT ALABAMA!!! http://pickem.g8r.com John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Q A with Christian Ponder (Elmasry)
Go Bobby... A. Leon Polhill FlaNative1845 330 NW 45th Street Gainesville, FL 32607 (352) 367-4642 -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Kirkley Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 12:22 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] [SUN]: Q A with Christian Ponder (Elmasry) You and me both Christian, I'm sure I could find a few more who will encourage this line of thinking too Q: How has head coach Bobby Bowden helped you develop as a quarterback? A: He's been such a mentor and a leader to me. I've always looked up to him. He always has suggestions all the time. He's a heck of a head coach and he's a guy with a lot of character. I grew up with him, basically. My dad (David) played at Florida State in the early '80s (as a defensive lineman). I hope he sticks around. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Ford Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 9:33 AM To: GATORNEWS Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Q A with Christian Ponder (Elmasry) Q A with Christian Ponder By Talal Elmasry Gainesville Sun Correspondent Published: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 at 7:37 p.m. Last Modified: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 at 7:37 p.m. Q: How would you describe your first season as Florida State's starting quarterback? A: I think I've done a pretty good job. I think last year if you would have told me that I'd be starting this year and we'd be 8-3 at this point, I definitely would have taken it. I'm pretty proud of the way I've played, but I think there's definitely a lot of room for improvement. Q: When did you learn exactly how big this rivalry is? A: I've grown up a Florida State fan so ever since I was little I've really realized how big it is. It's a crazy time and it's a heck of a game and a heck of a week of preparation and everything. I've always realized how big of a game it is and how much fun it is going into it. Q: Your team has plenty to play for, but is the team relishing its role as a possible spoiler to Florida's national title hopes? A: Not really. We're just looking at it as another game. It's a huge rivalry game and there is a chance of that, but we're not really worried about that. It's another game on our schedule so we can't really make it bigger than it is. We just got to come out and play like we can play. Q: You guys fell to Boston College but had a huge win against Maryland last week. What's the mindset of the team right now? A: We're pretty excited. We knew going into Maryland that was going to be a tough game and we had to prepare well. We did and things worked out for us. We got a little momentum on our side. Going into this week, everyone's up for the Florida game and everyone's working hard and trying to prepare well. Q: How has head coach Bobby Bowden helped you develop as a quarterback? A: He's been such a mentor and a leader to me. I've always looked up to him. He always has suggestions all the time. He's a heck of a head coach and he's a guy with a lot of character. I grew up with him, basically. My dad (David) played at Florida State in the early '80s (as a defensive lineman). I hope he sticks around. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: winmail.dat
[gatortalk] Re: DVD Recipient List...
Bill, I, too, owe you a big THANK YOU! I taped the show after you informed us about it and am watching it now. Great behind the scenes footage. Go GATORS! Beat Satan! And don't worry about Kitten(s) at Tennessee! -JNene --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
There's a twist to the SEC rule that I like better than the way they do it in the Big 12. In the case of a three-way tie in the SEC, the team with the highest BCS ranking is chosen, unless one of the other teams is ranked within five places of the highest ranking team. In that case, the head-to-head result between those two teams determines who plays in the SECCG. That seems more reasonable to me. It was not like that when we had our three-way tie and they changed it to the current rule pretty soon after that. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:51 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post In the case of a three way tie the highest ranked SEC team would go too. Isn't that what happened between us, Georgia and Tennessee? Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:43 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Nov 28, 2008, at 8:45 AM, JunoGator wrote: When you start talking about who goes to a conference championship because of voting, that's just not right, Meyer said. It's not my business, it's not my conference. I'm not sure the SEC has that rule (highest BCS team gets to play for the conference title). If it does then I'll probably make sure I get involved in that. The way to break a three team tie is pretty easy, it's net margin of victory among the three teams. It seems that the BCS and the standard method would yield the same result. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.jpg
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
When I teach my course on mathematical modeling of ecosystems, one of the things I have to point out repeatedly to my students is that they will get some answer no matter how badly they've modeled the system. The mere fact that they got an answer from their model doesn't mean it's a valid or useful answer. The same thing applies here. The BCS system -which is a mathematical model- 'works' in the sense that it gives us some result each year, but that doesn't mean the results are valid or that the system 'works' in the sense if it working well. Texas, USC, Texas Tech, Utah -I'm sure there are others- all have a legitimate right to complain about a system that doesn't give them a chance to prove whether their teams are better than ours. It's a broken system and needs to be replaced with an 8-team playoff. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:30 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post It's going to be Oklahoma. They will destroy Missouri. Texas is just going to have to live with the fact the voters, including computers, like OK better. USC won the Pac 10. As Leon would say, so what? Gators will play OK. The system works. Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:23 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:00 AM, JunoGator wrote: The national championship game in Miami on Jan. 8 will pair one team each from the two best conferences in football (Big12 and SEC) - just as it should be. One of those teams will be Alabama or Florida - just as it should be. The other will be either Texas as Oklahoma - yes, just as it should be. Who said the system doesn't work? Pete Carroll might have an argument. Unlike texas, Southern Cal won its conference. If it weren't for the artificial restriction on margin of victory, the computers would likely have Southern Cal as #1 in the country. See Sagarin here: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm Predictor is his real formula, the one Sagarin used before the BCS made him drop margin of victory. Note that Florida is the only other team anywhere close to Southern Cal. Texas and Oklahoma are a far cry behnd. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: image001.jpg
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
You're absolutely right Rob. Let me revise my comments. The system works... for the Gators! :-) Oliver From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com on behalf of NZ Gator Sent: Mon 12/1/2008 9:42 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post When I teach my course on mathematical modeling of ecosystems, one of the things I have to point out repeatedly to my students is that they will get some answer no matter how badly they've modeled the system. The mere fact that they got an answer from their model doesn't mean it's a valid or useful answer. The same thing applies here. The BCS system -which is a mathematical model- 'works' in the sense that it gives us some result each year, but that doesn't mean the results are valid or that the system 'works' in the sense if it working well. Texas, USC, Texas Tech, Utah -I'm sure there are others- all have a legitimate right to complain about a system that doesn't give them a chance to prove whether their teams are better than ours. It's a broken system and needs to be replaced with an 8-team playoff. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:30 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post It's going to be Oklahoma. They will destroy Missouri. Texas is just going to have to live with the fact the voters, including computers, like OK better. USC won the Pac 10. As Leon would say, so what? Gators will play OK. The system works. https://mail.haloprop.com/exchange/obarry/Drafts/RE:%20[gatortalk]%20Re:%20[gatornews]%20Today%27s%20Gatornews%20from%20Miami%20Herald%20and%20Palm%20Beach%20Post.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:23 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:00 AM, JunoGator wrote: The national championship game in Miami on Jan. 8 will pair one team each from the two best conferences in football (Big12 and SEC) - just as it should be. One of those teams will be Alabama or Florida - just as it should be. The other will be either Texas as Oklahoma - yes, just as it should be. Who said the system doesn't work? Pete Carroll might have an argument. Unlike texas, Southern Cal won its conference. If it weren't for the artificial restriction on margin of victory, the computers would likely have Southern Cal as #1 in the country. See Sagarin here: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm Predictor is his real formula, the one Sagarin used before the BCS made him drop margin of victory. Note that Florida is the only other team anywhere close to Southern Cal. Texas and Oklahoma are a far cry behnd. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: winmail.dat
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
Try convincing the teams ranked 9 and 10 that they were not worthy of making the playoff. A playoff system really doesnt fix the problems with the BCS. Woody (via wireless) -Original Message- From: Oliver Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: 12/1/2008 11:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post You're absolutely right Rob. Let me revise my comments. The system works... for the Gators! :-) Oliver From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com on behalf of NZ Gator Sent: Mon 12/1/2008 9:42 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post When I teach my course on mathematical modeling of ecosystems, one of the things I have to point out repeatedly to my students is that they will get some answer no matter how badly they've modeled the system. The mere fact that they got an answer from their model doesn't mean it's a valid or useful answer. The same thing applies here. The BCS system -which is a mathematical model- 'works' in the sense that it gives us some result each year, but that doesn't mean the results are valid or that the system 'works' in the sense if it working well. Texas, USC, Texas Tech, Utah -I'm sure there are others- all have a legitimate right to complain about a system that doesn't give them a chance to prove whether their teams are better than ours. It's a broken system and needs to be replaced with an 8-team playoff. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:30 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post It's going to be Oklahoma. They will destroy Missouri. Texas is just going to have to live with the fact the voters, including computers, like OK better. USC won the Pac 10. As Leon would say, so what? Gators will play OK. The system works. https://mail.haloprop.com/exchange/obarry/Drafts/RE:%20[gatortalk]%20Re:%20[gatornews]%20Today%27s%20Gatornews%20from%20Miami%20Herald%20and%20Palm%20Beach%20Post.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:23 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:00 AM, JunoGator wrote: The national championship game in Miami on Jan. 8 will pair one team each from the two best conferences in football (Big12 and SEC) - just as it should be. One of those teams will be Alabama or Florida - just as it should be. The other will be either Texas as Oklahoma - yes, just as it should be. Who said the system doesn't work? Pete Carroll might have an argument. Unlike texas, Southern Cal won its conference. If it weren't for the artificial restriction on margin of victory, the computers would likely have Southern Cal as #1 in the country. See Sagarin here: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm Predictor is his real formula, the one Sagarin used before the BCS made him drop margin of victory. Note that Florida is the only other team anywhere close to Southern Cal. Texas and Oklahoma are a far cry behnd. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
Oh yeah... I'm with you there! If the Gators take care of their business, this flawed system will at least have gotten that part right!!! Go Gators, roll back the tide! Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:14 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post You're absolutely right Rob. Let me revise my comments. The system works... for the Gators! :-) Oliver _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com on behalf of NZ Gator Sent: Mon 12/1/2008 9:42 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post When I teach my course on mathematical modeling of ecosystems, one of the things I have to point out repeatedly to my students is that they will get some answer no matter how badly they've modeled the system. The mere fact that they got an answer from their model doesn't mean it's a valid or useful answer. The same thing applies here. The BCS system -which is a mathematical model- 'works' in the sense that it gives us some result each year, but that doesn't mean the results are valid or that the system 'works' in the sense if it working well. Texas, USC, Texas Tech, Utah -I'm sure there are others- all have a legitimate right to complain about a system that doesn't give them a chance to prove whether their teams are better than ours. It's a broken system and needs to be replaced with an 8-team playoff. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:30 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post It's going to be Oklahoma. They will destroy Missouri. Texas is just going to have to live with the fact the voters, including computers, like OK better. USC won the Pac 10. As Leon would say, so what? Gators will play OK. The system works. https://mail.haloprop.com/exchange/obarry/Drafts/RE:%20%5bgatortalk%5d%20Re :%20%5bgatornews%5d%20Today%27s%20Gatornews%20from%20Miami%20Herald%20and%20 Palm%20Beach%20Post.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 _ From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:23 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:00 AM, JunoGator wrote: The national championship game in Miami on Jan. 8 will pair one team each from the two best conferences in football (Big12 and SEC) - just as it should be. One of those teams will be Alabama or Florida - just as it should be. The other will be either Texas as Oklahoma - yes, just as it should be. Who said the system doesn't work? Pete Carroll might have an argument. Unlike texas, Southern Cal won its conference. If it weren't for the artificial restriction on margin of victory, the computers would likely have Southern Cal as #1 in the country. See Sagarin here: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt08.htm Predictor is his real formula, the one Sagarin used before the BCS made him drop margin of victory. Note that Florida is the only other team anywhere close to Southern Cal. Texas and Oklahoma are a far cry behnd. -Zeb --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: winmail.dat
[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post
Nah, that's a meaningless argument since any cutoff has to leave some team as the highest-ranked team not included. Heck, basketball teams fuss when they're the 65th team instead of the 64th. But put it in perspective. Just as a 16th seed has never won the NCAA basketball tourney, a 9th or 10th team would never win a real football NC. Name me one year when anyone was arguing that the number 9 or 10 team belonged in the BCS championship game and had gotten cheated out of the opportunity. They don't, because the 9 and 10 teams simply aren't good enough. Two teams are too few to find a real champion, four teams would be marginal, but the legitimate contenders would always be in the top eight. Here's this year's top 8. What team with any real chance of winning a tournament is missing? Boise State? Ohio State? Neither team would run this gauntlet. No, eight teams would cover it. I respectfully disagree with your last statement... a playoff wouldn't solve all the world's problems, or even all the problems in college football, but it would certainly solve the problems with the BCS and give legitimacy to the football national championship. For the first time, a national champion would have actually earned the title by defeating the best teams in the country, regardless of conference, on the field where the game belongs. 1 Alabama 12-0 0.9713 2 Oklahoma 11-1 0.9350 3 Texas 11-1 0.9223 4 Florida 11-1 0.8850 5 USC 10-1 0.8077 6 Utah 12-0 0.7843 7 Texas Tech 11-1 0.7807 8 Penn State 11-1 0.7373 Rob -Original Message- From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Woody (via wireless) Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:23 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post Try convincing the teams ranked 9 and 10 that they were not worthy of making the playoff. A playoff system really doesnt fix the problems with the BCS. Woody (via wireless) -Original Message- From: Oliver Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: 12/1/2008 11:13 PM Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post You're absolutely right Rob. Let me revise my comments. The system works... for the Gators! :-) Oliver From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com on behalf of NZ Gator Sent: Mon 12/1/2008 9:42 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post When I teach my course on mathematical modeling of ecosystems, one of the things I have to point out repeatedly to my students is that they will get some answer no matter how badly they've modeled the system. The mere fact that they got an answer from their model doesn't mean it's a valid or useful answer. The same thing applies here. The BCS system -which is a mathematical model- 'works' in the sense that it gives us some result each year, but that doesn't mean the results are valid or that the system 'works' in the sense if it working well. Texas, USC, Texas Tech, Utah -I'm sure there are others- all have a legitimate right to complain about a system that doesn't give them a chance to prove whether their teams are better than ours. It's a broken system and needs to be replaced with an 8-team playoff. Rob From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Barry Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:30 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post It's going to be Oklahoma. They will destroy Missouri. Texas is just going to have to live with the fact the voters, including computers, like OK better. USC won the Pac 10. As Leon would say, so what? Gators will play OK. The system works. https://mail.haloprop.com/exchange/obarry/Drafts/RE:%20[gatortalk]%20R e:%20[gatornews]%20Today%27s%20Gatornews%20from%20Miami%20Herald%20and% 20Palm%20Beach%20Post.EML/1_multipart/image001.jpg Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Halo Realty, LLC 700 E. Main St. Hendersonville TN 37075 [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: 615-822-3509 fax: 615-822-7741 mobile: 615-972-4239 From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Vega Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:23 AM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Today's Gatornews from Miami Herald and Palm Beach Post On Dec 1, 2008, at 10:00 AM, JunoGator wrote: The national championship game in Miami on Jan. 8 will pair one team each from the two best conferences in football (Big12 and SEC) - just as it should be. One of those teams will be Alabama or Florida - just as it should be. The other will be either Texas as Oklahoma - yes,
[gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama
Steve, you may be on to something here. I have forgotten much of the geometry that I used to know, but the distance from the kickoff tee to the five yard line sideline would likely be 5-10 yards if the kick were made strait to the endzone. Could someone who remembers their geometry do the actual calculation? Perhaps we should be kicking it strait and maybe out of the endzone. Pinning a team at the 15 sometimes might not be as good as pinning them to the 20 ever time. Jerry From: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve McKibben Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:29 PM To: Gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: [gatortalk] Re: VS. Bama I agree that the rain soaked heavy footballs were likely hard to get great distance from. It's ironic - after the Kentucky game, on the post game locker room show Meyer gushed on and on about the kick coverage team - calling them the best he's ever been around. Since that game they've been poor. I noticed that during the South Carolina game Will Hill, who's probably made the majority of our tackles on kickoffs this year, was not on that unit. He was this past weekend, so that can't be blamed for the poor coverage. I think it was a combination of the wet fields and the fact that some blatant holding and illegal block penalties committed by the semis went uncalled (there was however a flag on every decent return we had). Meyer loves to pin the KO returner in a corner and stop them short of the twenty, or even the ten if we can. He's a field position maniac. But I hope that the facts that 'bama is not a quick strike team, the seeming slump by our KO coverage team, a very good Tide return man in Arinas, and a dry ball convinces him to tell Sturgis to put the kickoffs into the stands behind the goalposts! Make them try and go the full 80, I don't think we can get away with giving them a short field all day the way we did against 1/2assu. --- On Mon, 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think alot of the special teams fiasco from this past weekend was due to the weather conditions. Since, UM himself is the special teams guru at Florida... I have a feeling that they will have something special planned for the game this weekend since the weather wont be a factor. Woody /table --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
