Re: [gentoo-user] training bogofilter

2003-08-20 Thread Christian Herzyk
Yorkshire Dave wrote:

I keep seeing people struggling to get bayes working on spamassassin, in
most cases it's due to which user runs SA versus which user owns the
database. You might have trained it as your own user but if you call it
from the MTA or globally from /etc/procmailrc it will be running as mail
and either unable to read the bayes database in your directory or not
even looking for it where you've put it.
 

When starting to use SA I saw somewhere (either the docs or some 
website) that you can configure it to use 1 database, no matter which 
user trained it. So this should be usable for all useres. Unfortunately 
I cannot find it anymore.
If anyone can help here...?!?!

Christian

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Re: [gentoo-user] etc-update not showing differences

2003-08-20 Thread Theofilos Intzoglou
Hi Petri!

Did you by any chance change anything in /etc/etc-update.conf? There is
a line there

diff_command=diff -uN %file1 %file2

Check if it is commented out (having a # character in front of it).

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:14:47 +0300
Petri Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 When I run etc-update it no longer shows the differences between the
 original and the update.
 
 Showing differences between /etc/init.d/keymaps and
 /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps
 1) Replace original with update
 2) Delete update, keeping original as is
 3) Interactively merge original with update
 4) Show differences again
 Please select from the menu above (-1 to ignore this update):
 
 When I run diff manually it shows differences:
 
 # diff /etc/init.d/keymaps /etc/init.d/._cfg_keymaps
 4c4
  # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/init.d/keymaps,v 1.16
 2003/04/27 18:39:59 azarah Exp $
 ---
  # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/init.d/keymaps,v 1.17
 2003/07/16 19:38:51 azarah Exp $
 19a20,21
local WINDOWKEYS_KEYMAP=
 
 40c42,45
[ -z ${EXTENDED_KEYMAP} ]  local
 EXTENDED_KEYMAP=windowkeys
 ---
[ ${SET_WINDOWKEYS} = yes ] 
 WINDOWKEYS_KEYMAP=windowkeys
 
/bin/loadkeys -q ${WINDOWKEYS_KEYMAP} ${KEYMAP} \
 ${EXTENDED_KEYMAPS} /dev/null
 42d46
/bin/loadkeys -q ${EXTENDED_KEYMAP} ${KEYMAP}
 /dev/null
 46c50
[ -z ${EXTENDED_KEYMAP} ]  local
 EXTENDED_KEYMAP=windowkeys.inc
 ---
[ ${SET_WINDOWKEYS} = yes ] 
 WINDOWKEYS_KEYMAP=windowkeys.inc
 48c52,53
/usr/bin/loadkeys -q ${EXTENDED_KEYMAP} ${KEYMAP}
 /dev/null
 ---
/usr/bin/loadkeys -q ${WINDOWKEYS_KEYMAP} ${KEYMAP} \
 ${EXTENDED_KEYMAPS} /dev/null
 
 Petri
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which ATI Radeon Drivers?

2003-08-20 Thread Gerar
El mi? 20-08-2003 a las 03:29, Patrick Yager escribió:
 I have purchased the Gentoo cds from their online store for my system.  In the 
 printed instructions that came with the cds there are two different drivers listed 
 for my ATI 8500DV video card:  ati-drivers and xfree-drm.  Which one of these is 
 going to be the best option for me if I want to play a few games (i.e. Quake3 and 
 Neverwinter Nights)?
 
 The definitions are as follows:  ati-drivers = accelerated ATI Radeon 8500+/FireGL 
 graphics for XFree86, and xfree-drm Accelerated graphics for ATI Radeon up to 9200, 
 Rage 128, Matrox, Voodoo and other cards for XFree86.
 
 Are there any other hints you guys can offer to get my Radeon up and running for the 
 games?  (i.e. configs, hints, etc.)
 
 
 
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I highly recommend the xfree-drm drivers for a few reasons.
The most important one is that this drivers are open source. I have used
both drivers and there was no difference in performance at all, but with
ati-drivers I got a very poor video quality (notice that it was a beta
version).

Anyway the best way to decide is to install both of them and try some
playing. Then decide what performs better.

Bye.

PD: I have a radeon 9000 running excelent with xfree-drm.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install with serial-ata disk

2003-08-20 Thread Nicolas STURMEL
thanks a lot, that was exactly waht I was expecting :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install with serial-ata disk

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Arroyo
El Miércoles, 20 de Agosto de 2003 07:47, Nicolas STURMEL escribió:

Thx a lot for the answers

This night (spanish time :P) i will try to install again.
I will post my experience here tomorrow :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] x eats my mem and cpu

2003-08-20 Thread Spider
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:53:20 +0300
Theofilos Intzoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi a_k_b!
 
   Another app that seemed to eat all my available memory was xchat
 version 1.8.x that used gtk+1.2.x. After 2 or 3 hours of chatting in
 the gentoo channel resulted in the X using about 256MB RAM (all of it
 that is :-P) and 250MB swap making the system unstable and only
 usuable after I pushed the magic button of reset :-) I have no
 problems with the 2.x versions of xchat as it uses gtk2 and it seems
 that it works much better that 1.2.x. If you want to try another
 multiprotocol IM client have a look at ayttm(previously known as
 everybuddy).
 


Actually Xchat-2 still has what appears to be memoryleaks. it won't
harass the X system, but after a while online it will keep allocating
memory, and never lets it go, not even when closing all windows and
server connections. 

This doesn't affect the X server in the same way though , so it might be
less of an issues, but still, another  example of sloppy coding :-/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Found an MS-DOS partition table, not a dynamicdisk.

2003-08-20 Thread Spider
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:00:15 -0300
Pupeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 When I boot up I get this, is this an error ? what's wrong ? what does
 it mean ? how do I solve it ?
 Partition check:
  /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:7ldm_validate_partition_table():
  Found an 
 MS-DOS partition table, not a dynamic disk.

Nothing wrong. It means it found a classic MS DOS Style partition table,
and not one of Whine2k/XP dynamic partitions (that were hell to
support for a while)

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Re: [gentoo-user] training bogofilter

2003-08-20 Thread Spider
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:54:36 +1000
blade- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Its a OT but maybe someone knows anyway,
 
 I use spamassassin and have not been able to get bayes filter working 
 with it, after over 5000 spam messages I think it would be working by 
 now. So I have deceided to use bogofilter and spamassassin combo, can
 I use the spam that spam assassin has collected to train bogofilter,
 ie. will the spamassassin header badly effect they way its trained.
 

Here's a procmail recipe using bogofilter and spamassassin_
(For incoming mail )
-8-8-
:0fw: bogofilter.lock
| bogofilter -u -e -p

# if bogofilter failed, return the mail to the queue, the MTA will
# retry to deliver it later
# 75 is the value for EX_TEMPFAIL in /usr/include/sysexits.h

:0e
{ EXITCODE=75 HOST }

:0fw: spamassassin.lock
*  256000
| spamc

###
# Kill spam first
:0:
* ^X-Bogosity: Yes, tests=bogofilter
.SPAM.bogo/

## Spamassassin points
:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
.SPAM.assassin/

--88---


And here is a cleaning filter, it will remove all SpamAssassin and
Bogofilter header tags from the incoming email.

88--8---
PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/clean.log
VERBOSE=yes
COMSAT=no
 
MAILDIR=$HOME/.maildir
 
 
:0fw: spamcleanbogo.lock
| grep -v X-Bogosity
 
:0fw: spamcleanassassin.lock
| spamassassin --remove-markup

:0:
.SPAM.CLEAN/
--88-8--

after this, I generally use a set of commands/Scripts as this:
 sa-learn --dir --spam ~/.maildir/.SPAM.CLEAN


This script will parse all the cleaned spam and tell bogofilter.. its
spam darnit 

find ~/.maildir/.SPAM.CLEAN/{cur,new}/ -type f  |while
read FILE; do bogofilter  $FILE || bogofilter -s $FILE;
done




Extra step, should always be executed a first time before sorting spam,
since it will tell bogofilter what is good:
find ~/.maildir/{cur,new}/ -type f |while read HAM;
do bogofilter $HAM  bogofilter -n $HAM;
done



And this is good idea to make sure nothing goes bad in your
incoming mailbox(make sure you don't have any spam in your inbox first,
or you'll throw it off using this, since this piece will tell bogofilter
to unlearn it if its spam, and learn it as ham) :

find ~/.maildir/{cur,new}/ -type f |while read HAM;
do bogofilter $HAM  bogofilter -Snv $HAM;
done





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Re: [gentoo-user] training bogofilter

2003-08-20 Thread blade-
Thanks for your help all, I fixed it by puting -x option in 
/etc/conf.d/spamd, this sets it as no user prefs, which makes 1 database 
like you said christian, it seems that spamd was running as user nobody 
and couldnt access the database in the users homedirs, i just made 
/.spamassasssin, chowned it nobody, got all my old spam and sa-learned 
it as nobody, works great now.

Thanks

Christian Herzyk wrote:

Yorkshire Dave wrote:

I keep seeing people struggling to get bayes working on spamassassin, in
most cases it's due to which user runs SA versus which user owns the
database. You might have trained it as your own user but if you call it
from the MTA or globally from /etc/procmailrc it will be running as mail
and either unable to read the bayes database in your directory or not
even looking for it where you've put it.
 

When starting to use SA I saw somewhere (either the docs or some 
website) that you can configure it to use 1 database, no matter which 
user trained it. So this should be usable for all useres. 
Unfortunately I cannot find it anymore.
If anyone can help here...?!?!

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RE: [gentoo-user] pcmcia-cs install

2003-08-20 Thread Lionel Laratte
Solved my problem: for some reason /etc/make.conf had a line at the end
that should not have been there.  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From: adam mcmaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] pcmcia-cs install

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| Hi all,
|
| I am on the home stretch in completing my first Gentoo install on my
| PII-266 Compaq Presario 1655 laptop.  Unfortunately, when I go to
emerge
| the pcmcia-cs package as the instructions say, I get a 404 not found
| error from airsnort.schmoo.com which, I suppose, it was supposed to be
| downloaded from.  Is there any way to install this package otherwise?
Or
| am I stuck waiting till this Web site gets back up?  I would
appreciate
| any suggestions.  Thanks.
|
| Lionel
|
|
shouldn't it try a whole bunch of different mirrors in that case?  just
a guess, but maybe emerge sync then trying again would help...

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[gentoo-user] Cupsd doesn't start during boot

2003-08-20 Thread Frank Hellmuth
Hi!

During the boot I get the message

Cupsd: Child exited with status 99!

cupsd dont show in a ps aux. A later call of

# /etc/init.d/cupsd start

gives cupsd already running, but there is no cupsd running and the printing 
doesn't work. If I call

# /usr/sbin/cupsd

by hand everything just works fine. So I guess it's problem with 
/sbin/start-stop-daemon. I've modified /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to enable network 
wide  printing on my host, that also works without problems. Is it maybe 
because of that cupsd is started before the network? I've found no entry in 
the log files. Does anyone know what's going on?

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[gentoo-user] Making sure gentoo is up to date

2003-08-20 Thread Teemu Rinta-aho
Hi,

how can I make sure my gentoo is completely up to date? I run 'emerge
sync' and 'emerge -u world' on a regular basis, but how can I make sure
that updating world really updates everything? For example, I can see
that the installed baselayout package is not the most recent version
available. Also my /etc/gentoo-release hasn't updated since I have 
installed gentoo.

Is there a command to list packages that are installed, but not included 
in the world?

I have read through the manuals and the faq, but no help...

BR,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Making sure gentoo is up to date

2003-08-20 Thread blade-
I always do emerge -UD world

Teemu Rinta-aho wrote:

Hi,

how can I make sure my gentoo is completely up to date? I run 'emerge
sync' and 'emerge -u world' on a regular basis, but how can I make sure
that updating world really updates everything? For example, I can see
that the installed baselayout package is not the most recent version
available. Also my /etc/gentoo-release hasn't updated since I have 
installed gentoo.

Is there a command to list packages that are installed, but not included 
in the world?

I have read through the manuals and the faq, but no help...

BR,
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[gentoo-user] EVMS

2003-08-20 Thread MAL
The 1.4 basic CD does not have the EVMS utilities pathed, does it 
support EVMS?

MAL

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cupsd doesn't start during boot

2003-08-20 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 20. August 2003 13:17 schrieb ext Frank Hellmuth:
 Hi!

 During the boot I get the message

 Cupsd: Child exited with status 99!

 cupsd dont show in a ps aux. A later call of

Any chance you have enabled SLP in cupsd.conf. This caused cupsd to segfault 
on my machine.

 # /etc/init.d/cupsd start

 gives cupsd already running, but there is no cupsd running and the
 printing doesn't work. If I call

 # /usr/sbin/cupsd

 by hand everything just works fine. So I guess it's problem with
 /sbin/start-stop-daemon. I've modified /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to enable
 network wide  printing on my host, that also works without problems. Is
 it maybe because of that cupsd is started before the network? I've found
 no entry in the log files. Does anyone know what's going on?
Look into /var/lib/init.d/started and delete the cupsd file. You should be 
then able to use /etc/init.d/cupsd start again.

HTH...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cupsd doesn't start during boot

2003-08-20 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 20 August 2003 13:26, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

 Look into /var/lib/init.d/started and delete the cupsd file. You should be
 then able to use /etc/init.d/cupsd start again.

/etc/init.d/blah zap

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cupsd doesn't start during boot

2003-08-20 Thread Frank Hellmuth
Am Mittwoch, 20. August 2003 14:26 schrieb Dirk Heinrichs:
 Am Mittwoch, 20. August 2003 13:17 schrieb ext Frank Hellmuth:
  Hi!
 
  During the boot I get the message
 
  Cupsd: Child exited with status 99!
 
  cupsd dont show in a ps aux. A later call of

 Any chance you have enabled SLP in cupsd.conf. This caused cupsd to
 segfault on my machine.

It was on, but setting BrowseProtocols back to cups didn't change anything.

  # /etc/init.d/cupsd start
 
  gives cupsd already running, but there is no cupsd running and the
  printing doesn't work. If I call
 
  # /usr/sbin/cupsd
 
  by hand everything just works fine. So I guess it's problem with
  /sbin/start-stop-daemon. I've modified /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to enable
  network wide  printing on my host, that also works without problems. Is
  it maybe because of that cupsd is started before the network? I've found
  no entry in the log files. Does anyone know what's going on?

 Look into /var/lib/init.d/started and delete the cupsd file. You should be
 then able to use /etc/init.d/cupsd start again.

That also didn't help, still the same

 HTH...

Thank you, Dirk, for your quick reply! Any further things I could try?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cupsd doesn't start during boot

2003-08-20 Thread Frank Hellmuth
Am Mittwoch, 20. August 2003 14:31 schrieb Mike Williams:
 On Wednesday 20 August 2003 13:26, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
  Look into /var/lib/init.d/started and delete the cupsd file. You should
  be then able to use /etc/init.d/cupsd start again.

 /etc/init.d/blah zap

# ps aux | grep cups
root  2344  0.0  0.2  3792  668 pts/1R14:53   0:00 grep cups
# /etc/init.d/cupsd start
 * WARNING:  cupsd has already been started.
# /etc/init.d/cupsd zap
 * Manually resetting cupsd to stopped state.
# /etc/init.d/cupsd start
 * Starting cupsd...   [ ok ]

But by the next boot I see the Child exited with status 99 again and have to 
start cups manually again. Strange...

Frank





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[gentoo-user] Problems with Compaq

2003-08-20 Thread Roar Johnsen
Hi all..

First post to the list for me.. I must say I really love Gentoo :)
But I have a problem. At work we have a Compaq DL360 with two 36,4 gb
scsi discs. They are both set up as 1 drive. So I have just
over 70 gb in total.

The cpqarray module is loaded. And in /dev I can find the disk as /dev/ida/disc0/disc
I use fdisk /dev/ida/disc0/disc and set up my partionions.
Everything works fine. When I'm finnished I have this :

Disk /dev/ida/disc0/disc: 72.8 GB, 72829501440 bytes
255 heads, 32 sectors/track, 17432 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8160 * 512 = 4177920 bytes

  Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/ida/disc0/part1 113 53024   83  Linux
/dev/ida/disc0/part214   493   1958400   82  Linux swap
/dev/ida/disc0/part3   494 17432  6920   83  Linux

Command (m for help):

I format the partions and activate the swap and mount them.
I extract stage 1 and mounts proc and does chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash

But here it goes wrong, For instance I'm not able to do : df
It says : df: cannot read table of mounted filesystems: No such file or directory

In /dev I can't find ida/disc0/disc
I only have /dev not /dev/ida

What happend? I've tried to download stage 1 from antoher place. After
that I have /dev/ida but not /dev/ida/disc0/

Is there a workaround for this, have I done something wrong?.. I have
installed Gentoo many times. But it's the first time I've tried to install it
on a Compaq DL360.

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[gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread stephen
I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but 
would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can.

Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer and 
have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those out and use 
3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr, usr/local, var and tmp.

I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the 
best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated.

_
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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread MAL
stephen wrote:
I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but 
would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can.

Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer and 
have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those out and use 
3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr, usr/local, var and tmp.

I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the 
best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated.
The Athlon XP supports MMX and MMX2 as well as 3DNow and 3DNow2, so that 
in itself isn't a problem, (assuming this is indeed an Athlon XP... you 
only state Athlon in your description, but I don't think there is an 
Athlon 2700+).

The main problem will be pentium3 specific instructions used because of 
the -march switch.  Unless someone can state for certain that the Athlon 
XP is backward compatible with the pentium3, (unlikely), you will need 
to recompile your entire system.

In theory, emerge -eD world, should do this.  However this poses a 
problem in itself, because if you compile it on the old motherboard, 
with -march=athlon-xp, it will break when a newly compiled utility tries 
to use athlon-xp instructions on the P3.

It may be possible to untar the i386 stage1 tarball over the top of your 
existing system, which would mean your base system, (bare bones boot, 
glibc and compiler), will run on the new motherboard.

You should then be able to 'emerge -eD world'.  Don't take this for 
gospel :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cupsd doesn't start during boot

2003-08-20 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 20. August 2003 14:46 schrieb ext Frank Hellmuth:
 Thank you, Dirk, for your quick reply! Any further things I could try?
Not that I know of. Maybe asking the cups developer(s) about exit status 99 
could get you further.

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread daniel
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:56, stephen wrote:
 I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but 
 would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can.
 
 Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
  and have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those
  out and use 3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr,
  usr/local, var and tmp.
 
 I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the 
 best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated.


as i understand it, pretty much all of your binaries shouldn't work on
your new machine since you chose to use -march=pentium3.  my best
suggestion would be to do the following (yes, it will take a very long
time):

  1. edit make.conf to have the following:
   CFLAGS=-mcpu=i686 -O3 -pipe
   remove mmx and sse from USE and add 3dnow

  2. # emerge --emptytree world

  3. install the new cpu

  4. edit make.conf to have the following:
   CFLAGS=-mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe

  5. # emerge --emptytree world


to me, this seems like a bit of a sledgehammer approach, but it's the
only way i would think you can be sure you'll be able to boot your
system after installing the new cpu.  someone please correct me if they
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Compaq

2003-08-20 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 20 August 2003 09:38, Roar Johnsen wrote:

[snip]

 But here it goes wrong, For instance I'm not able to do : df
 It says : df: cannot read table of mounted filesystems: No such file or
 directory

 In /dev I can't find ida/disc0/disc
 I only have /dev not /dev/ida

 What happend? I've tried to download stage 1 from antoher place. After
 that I have /dev/ida but not /dev/ida/disc0/

 Is there a workaround for this, have I done something wrong?.. I have
 installed Gentoo many times. But it's the first time I've tried to install
 it on a Compaq DL360.

I had gentoo on a DL360, with 3 disks in a raid 5 array.
df has never worked correctly for me once in the chroot jail on any machine, 
and nor should it do.
/dev is a filesystem, and (unless you specifically did so yourself) not 
mounted on /mnt/gentoo/dev, remember you are in a chroot jail :)
Once the necessary partitions are mounted (/, /boot, /usr, etc) you shouldn't 
need to access /dev. If you really need it, then mount it :)
mount -t devfs none /mnt/gentoo/dev

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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread Mike Williams
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On Wednesday 20 August 2003 14:19, MAL wrote:

 The main problem will be pentium3 specific instructions used because of
 the -march switch.  Unless someone can state for certain that the Athlon
 XP is backward compatible with the pentium3, (unlikely), you will need
 to recompile your entire system.

 In theory, emerge -eD world, should do this.  However this poses a
 problem in itself, because if you compile it on the old motherboard,
 with -march=athlon-xp, it will break when a newly compiled utility tries
 to use athlon-xp instructions on the P3.

 It may be possible to untar the i386 stage1 tarball over the top of your
 existing system, which would mean your base system, (bare bones boot,
 glibc and compiler), will run on the new motherboard.

 You should then be able to 'emerge -eD world'.  Don't take this for
 gospel :)

How about recompiling everything with -mcpu=athlon-xp on the P3, will work on 
both then. Could change to -march=athlon-xp at a later date, if so wanted.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread MAL
daniel wrote:
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:56, stephen wrote:

I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but 
would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can.

Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
and have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those
out and use 3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr,
usr/local, var and tmp.
I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the 
best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated.


as i understand it, pretty much all of your binaries shouldn't work on
your new machine since you chose to use -march=pentium3.  my best
suggestion would be to do the following (yes, it will take a very long
time):
  1. edit make.conf to have the following:
   CFLAGS=-mcpu=i686 -O3 -pipe
   remove mmx and sse from USE and add 3dnow
The Athlon XP supports MMX.

  2. # emerge --emptytree world
What about packages not in the world file?

emerge --emptytree --deep world

is needed to recompile those too, although I doubt they're necessary for 
this intermediate step.

  3. install the new cpu

  4. edit make.conf to have the following:
   CFLAGS=-mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
Why -mcpu?  In case he moves back? :)

  5. # emerge --emptytree world
emerge -eD world here, definitely.

to me, this seems like a bit of a sledgehammer approach, but it's the
only way i would think you can be sure you'll be able to boot your
system after installing the new cpu.  someone please correct me if they
know of a better solution.
I could only think of unpacking a i386 (or i686) stage1 over his system, 
which should give enough of a base system to boot and compile with.  Not 
guaranteed though.  Maybe stage2?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread MAL
Mike Williams wrote:
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 14:19, MAL wrote:


The main problem will be pentium3 specific instructions used because of
the -march switch.  Unless someone can state for certain that the Athlon
XP is backward compatible with the pentium3, (unlikely), you will need
to recompile your entire system.
In theory, emerge -eD world, should do this.  However this poses a
problem in itself, because if you compile it on the old motherboard,
with -march=athlon-xp, it will break when a newly compiled utility tries
to use athlon-xp instructions on the P3.
It may be possible to untar the i386 stage1 tarball over the top of your
existing system, which would mean your base system, (bare bones boot,
glibc and compiler), will run on the new motherboard.
You should then be able to 'emerge -eD world'.  Don't take this for
gospel :)


How about recompiling everything with -mcpu=athlon-xp on the P3, will work on 
both then. Could change to -march=athlon-xp at a later date, if so wanted.
Good idea, but VERY lengthy compiling a large system twice.. guess it 
depends how much of an optimisation junkie our subject is :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread Stefan Hildebrandt
On Mit, 2003-08-20 at 15:32, MAL wrote:
 daniel wrote:
  On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:56, stephen wrote:
  
 I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but 
 would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can.
 
 Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
  and have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those
  out and use 3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr,
  usr/local, var and tmp.
 
 I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the 
 best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated.
  
  
  
  as i understand it, pretty much all of your binaries shouldn't work on
  your new machine since you chose to use -march=pentium3.  my best
  suggestion would be to do the following (yes, it will take a very long
  time):
  
1. edit make.conf to have the following:
 CFLAGS=-mcpu=i686 -O3 -pipe
 remove mmx and sse from USE and add 3dnow
 
 The Athlon XP supports MMX.
 

And SSE, too. Only add 3dnow (after install the athlon)
(Normaly the athlon xp should work with all the p3 binarys)

Set CFLAGS=-mcpu=i686 -O3 -pipe
install the drive on your P3.

emerge -eD system (base system and compiler need to be on a save
level)

Change to Athlon.
CFLAGS=-mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
and add 3dnow to USE-Flags

emerge -eD world

mfg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Compaq

2003-08-20 Thread Brian Downey
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 On Wednesday 20 August 2003 09:38, Roar Johnsen wrote:

 [snip]

 But here it goes wrong, For instance I'm not able to do : df
 It says : df: cannot read table of mounted filesystems: No such file or
 directory

 In /dev I can't find ida/disc0/disc
 I only have /dev not /dev/ida

 What happend? I've tried to download stage 1 from antoher place. After
 that I have /dev/ida but not /dev/ida/disc0/

 Is there a workaround for this, have I done something wrong?.. I have
 installed Gentoo many times. But it's the first time I've tried to
 install
 it on a Compaq DL360.
snip
 Once the necessary partitions are mounted (/, /boot, /usr, etc) you
 shouldn't
 need to access /dev. If you really need it, then mount it :)
 mount -t devfs none /mnt/gentoo/dev
snip

The latter part of this reply is partially true...but you will run into
problems with Grub later on in the install if you don't probably propagate
/dev with the RAID device nodes.

Installing Gentoo on a hardware RAID controller requires some special
steps that are in the install guide (but in the wrong spot).  Scroll all
the way down to the bottom and review the instructions for installing on
Hardware ATA RAID, particularly the chroot part.  You will probably need
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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread MAL
Stefan Hildebrandt wrote:
The Athlon XP supports MMX.

And SSE, too. Only add 3dnow (after install the athlon)
(Normaly the athlon xp should work with all the p3 binarys)
Set CFLAGS=-mcpu=i686 -O3 -pipe
install the drive on your P3.
emerge -eD system (base system and compiler need to be on a save
level)
Change to Athlon.
CFLAGS=-mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
and add 3dnow to USE-Flags
or -march=athlon-xp ;)

emerge -eD world
Maybe qpkg should be used to find the installed packages. I'm not sure 
that emerge -eD finds all installed packages, (from postings I have 
read, etc.).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread stephen
On 20 Aug 2003 15:43:40 +0200, Stefan Hildebrandt wrote 
 And SSE, too. Only add 3dnow (after install the athlon)
 (Normaly the athlon xp should work with all the p3 binarys)
 
 Set CFLAGS=-mcpu=i686 -O3 -pipe
 install the drive on your P3.
 
 emerge -eD system (base system and compiler need to be on a save
 level)
 
 Change to Athlon.
 CFLAGS=-mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe
 and add 3dnow to USE-Flags
 
 emerge -eD world
 
 mfg
 
 Stefan Hildebrandt

Thanks to all who responded. I was not looking forward to doing emerge -eD
world on the P3 again, so only doing emerge -eD system will be *much* less
painful.

By the way, is there any reason to avoid the fomit-frame-pointer flag for the
athlon?
_
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RE: [gentoo-user] openMosix possibilities?

2003-08-20 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
??? Where did you get that?? I emerge all the time.. The only, I guess problems, is 
people seem to think that when a compile happens that its suppose to transfer those 
processes. Normally, however, they are to quick and don't ever get transferred.. I do 
though.. 

I have not heard about segfault problems with openmosix..

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Does anyone out here have any experience with the openMosix issues being
experienced on Gentoo?  It seems to me from what I've read that most of
the issues only occur when an emerge is in progress and the machines
segfault.

If you were to disable each node from the cluster ONLY during an emerge,
would that solve these issues?  I would like to utilize Gentoo if at all
possible, even thoughIi know that RedHat is very stable under openMosix.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread MAL
stephen wrote:
By the way, is there any reason to avoid the fomit-frame-pointer flag for the
athlon?
It improves very little and breaks some packages, (even though those I 
know about mask it, like courier).  Plus, debugging is apparently then 
impossible on some platforms, (maybe x86 maybe not :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice - slower than death

2003-08-20 Thread Håvard Wall
rh wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:21:47 +0300
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Hi rh!

I remember that if I try to start ooffice when my [EMAIL PROTECTED] program
is already running with nice 19 using all available cpu, ooffice took
about a minute to start giving me an empty window! Switching between
open windows would make the window of ooffice appear transparent/empty
and it was like it had frozen. However when I am not running
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ooffice starts within 10secs and all is running quite fast
on my Athlon XP 1700+. And yes I'm using the bin package as I don't have
the patience to wait for 12hours+ for a program to emerge just to see
that after 10 hours of compiling it stopped with an error(yes this
happened to me) :-) So I 'd suggest you checked if a particular program
that you run would cause ooffice to act weird.


Well, that was exactly the problem...I had setiathome running in the background and as soon as I killed it , openoffice works fine. I wish I had of discovered this before I un-emerged openoffice and emerged openoffice-bin. Is there a particular setting I can have setiathome running and still get good response from openoffice?
Yes. You should run setiathome within nice. E.g:
nice -19 setiathome
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice - slower than death

2003-08-20 Thread Sigurd Stordal
  background and as soon as I killed it , openoffice works fine. I wish I
  had of discovered this before I un-emerged openoffice and emerged
  openoffice-bin. Is there a particular setting I can have setiathome
  running and still get good response from openoffice?

 Yes. You should run setiathome within nice. E.g:
 nice -19 setiathome
I've tried this and it was to no avail. I think it also has something to do 
with memory.
But what you do, is when you kill you setiathome, you do a kill -s SIGSTOP 
'pid'. then you can do a kill -s SICONT 'pid' when your finished with 
openoffice.

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[gentoo-user] USB 2.0 Trouble

2003-08-20 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,

When i try of make a new filesystem on a new usb 2.0 mass device my laptop just 
freezes.
I had this also when i power on a digital camera that is also usb 2.0. My laptop has 
usb 2.0. I'm using without problems a usb 1.0 mass device and mice.

What can i do to avoid this?
I'm using the gentoo-sources 2.4.20-gentoo-r5

dmesg
hub.c: new USB device 00:03.0-1, assigned address 2
usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=2 (error=-110)
hub.c: new USB device 00:03.0-1, assigned address 3
usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=3 (error=-110)

when i remove it and insert it again

hub.c: new USB device 00:03.3-1, assigned address 2
scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
  Vendor: USB   Model: Flash Drive   Rev: 2.02
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
SCSI device sdb: 253949 512-byte hdwr sectors (130 MB)
sdb: Write Protect is off
 /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4
WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
USB Mass Storage device found at 2
  
TIA

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Re: [gentoo-user] NFS Home Dir Lock Problems

2003-08-20 Thread Jason A. Pfeil
I don't think this is an NFS lock problem.  From your description, you are 
running a GNOME 2.x-based desktop.  That uses gconfd, a program to manage 
configuration information.  Gconfd does *not* exit when you log out.  It 
waits like five minutes in case you log in again.  So, it is holding its 
own lockfile open.  If you log out and then log back in at the text 
console and issue a gconftool-2 --shutdown you will be able to log in at 
another machine.

Alternatively, wait the five minutes for it to shut itself down.  :-)

--Jason

On 17 Aug 2003, Matt Neimeyer wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 I've got three machines at home all running the same versions of
 everything (so far as I can tell). Machine A is running NFS and
 exporting several home directories. If I go to Machine B first and log
 on to my profile it works but when I log out and walk over to Machine C
 it gives me the following error.
 
 Please contact your system administrator to resolve the following
 problem: Could not resolve the address xml:readwrite:/home/matt/.gconf
 in the configuration file /etc/gconf/2/path: Failed to lock
 '/home/matt/.gconf/%gconf-xml-backend.lock/ior': probably another
 process has the lock, or your operating system has NFS file locking
 misconfigured (Resource temporarily unavailable)
 
 If I go to either Machine B or Machine C first it works. If I log out
 then reboot I can go anywhere. If I don't reboot the first machine I log
 in to I can't log in anywhere else. This is for any profile and any
 order of machine log in/out.
 
 Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] NFS Home Dir Lock Problems

2003-08-20 Thread Matt Neimeyer
Hrm... Easy enough to test.

Is there a way to disable that behavior? Or even just change the
timeout? Why would I want that anyways?

Thanks!

On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 10:38, Jason A. Pfeil wrote:
 I don't think this is an NFS lock problem.  From your description, you are 
 running a GNOME 2.x-based desktop.  That uses gconfd, a program to manage 
 configuration information.  Gconfd does *not* exit when you log out.  It 
 waits like five minutes in case you log in again.  So, it is holding its 
 own lockfile open.  If you log out and then log back in at the text 
 console and issue a gconftool-2 --shutdown you will be able to log in at 
 another machine.
 
 Alternatively, wait the five minutes for it to shut itself down.  :-)
 
 --Jason
 
 On 17 Aug 2003, Matt Neimeyer wrote:
 
  Hey all,
  
  I've got three machines at home all running the same versions of
  everything (so far as I can tell). Machine A is running NFS and
  exporting several home directories. If I go to Machine B first and log
  on to my profile it works but when I log out and walk over to Machine C
  it gives me the following error.
  
  Please contact your system administrator to resolve the following
  problem: Could not resolve the address xml:readwrite:/home/matt/.gconf
  in the configuration file /etc/gconf/2/path: Failed to lock
  '/home/matt/.gconf/%gconf-xml-backend.lock/ior': probably another
  process has the lock, or your operating system has NFS file locking
  misconfigured (Resource temporarily unavailable)
  
  If I go to either Machine B or Machine C first it works. If I log out
  then reboot I can go anywhere. If I don't reboot the first machine I log
  in to I can't log in anywhere else. This is for any profile and any
  order of machine log in/out.
  
  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?

2003-08-20 Thread Stroller
On Wednesday, 20 August 2003, at 4:41 pm, Loic Domaigne wrote:

The next point I'm eager to try is NPTL. I would like to have the 
latest
version available, namely 0.55 (the v0.28 available with glibc-2.3.2-r1
is too buggy for me). For this, I need to install glibc-2.3.2-r3.

How should I proceed? From my understanding, a simple emerge glibc
won't do the trick, since the current (stable) package version is
2.3.2-r1.
emerge /usr/portage/sys-libs/glibc/glibc-2.3.2-r3.ebuild

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?

2003-08-20 Thread Lloyd D Budd
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 11:41, Loic Domaigne wrote:

 A thing that I'm really missing is the gentoo counterpart to the 
 FreeBSD Handbook. Or... Did I missed it? ISTM that one has to search 
 accross the web to be able to use gentoo. First, it's extremly time 
 consuming. And second, that's not acceptable for business purpose 
 (although for hacker purpose, that's fine. I think, I will switch to
 gentoo at home).  

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 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0013.html
 
 
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[gentoo-user] MozFierbird bookmarks

2003-08-20 Thread Ernie Schroder
I've ben trying to get flash working in MozillaFirebird. I think I've 
figured out how to do it but along the way I've created a major 
problem. From a site that needs flash, I d'loaded the flash plugin and 
attempted to install it. This failed due to the wrong install 
directory. Next I emerged the netscape flash plugin. All seemed to go 
right.BUT Now my MozillaFirebird bookmarks are gone! I looked around 
and couldn't find out what might have happened so I decided to reboot 
the box. Durring boot, the box hug after a error on cupsd something 
about couldn't start child error #99 the next lines were starting USB 
and PCI hotplugging There it sat for perhaps 5 minutes. I reset the 
box and the same thing happened. I reset it again with the USB printer 
and the card reader plugged in and cupsd and hot plugging succeeded and 
boot was successful.
Still no bookmarks, though. Am I screwed or is there a way to recover 
them? Does anyone have any idea about what may have happened?
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Re: [gentoo-user] dma not enabled

2003-08-20 Thread Pupeno
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On Tuesday 19 August 2003 16:39, Robert Young wrote:
 type
 hdparm /dev/hdb
 and
 hdparm /dev/hda

 for
 hdparm /dev/hda
 I got

 /dev/hda:
  multcount=  0 (off)
  IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
  unmaskirq=  1 (on)
  using_dma=  1 (on)
  keepsettings =  0 (off)
  readonly =  0 (off)
  readahead=  8 (on)
  geometry = 1560/255/63, sectors = 25075008, start = 0
 .
  using_dma=  1 (on)
 shows that dma is on. What does yours show you?

That shows it off :)
/dev/hda:
 multcount= 16 (on)
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  0 (off)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead=  8 (on)
 geometry = 9729/255/63, sectors = 156301488, start = 0
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Re: [gentoo-user] dma not enabled

2003-08-20 Thread Pupeno
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On Tuesday 19 August 2003 16:48, Nicolas STURMEL wrote:
 Pupeno wrote:
  So, what may be wrong then ? (I didn't enable anything on the HDs yet)

 Perhaps did you mis-config your kernel.
 Look in IDE/ATAPI options to see if you enabled the driver corresponding
 to your chipset.

What chipset ? My motherboard chipset is nForce2, but I don't see it listed 
anywhere (maybe it is another chipset ?).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Found an MS-DOS partition table, not a dynamic disk.

2003-08-20 Thread Pupeno
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On Tuesday 19 August 2003 15:37, Robert Young wrote:
 What is the history of these drives?

 I would assume this has to do with your other post. (If the DMA warning is
 from the same computer)
Well, in both of them I installed Windows XP before installing Linux so the 
first partition was done with Windows XP (I prefeer to destroy XP's partition 
installing linux (something I don't think it's going to happen) than the 
other way), and yes, it is the same computer.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice - slower than death

2003-08-20 Thread rh
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 02:23:18 +
Håvard Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 rh wrote:
  On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:21:47 +0300
  Theofilos Intzoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
 Hi rh!
 
 I remember that if I try to start ooffice when my [EMAIL PROTECTED] program
 is already running with nice 19 using all available cpu, ooffice took
 about a minute to start giving me an empty window! Switching between
 open windows would make the window of ooffice appear transparent/empty
 and it was like it had frozen. However when I am not running
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ooffice starts within 10secs and all is running quite fast
 on my Athlon XP 1700+. And yes I'm using the bin package as I don't have
 the patience to wait for 12hours+ for a program to emerge just to see
 that after 10 hours of compiling it stopped with an error(yes this
 happened to me) :-) So I 'd suggest you checked if a particular program
 that you run would cause ooffice to act weird.
 
  
  
  
  Well, that was exactly the problem...I had setiathome running in the background 
  and as soon as I killed it , openoffice works fine. I wish I had of discovered 
  this before I un-emerged openoffice and emerged openoffice-bin. Is there a 
  particular setting I can have setiathome running and still get good response from 
  openoffice?
 
 Yes. You should run setiathome within nice. E.g:
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That's what i have it running at right now and it doesn't do any good.


 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice - slower than death

2003-08-20 Thread rh
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:23:13 +0200
Sigurd Stordal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   background and as soon as I killed it , openoffice works fine. I wish I
   had of discovered this before I un-emerged openoffice and emerged
   openoffice-bin. Is there a particular setting I can have setiathome
   running and still get good response from openoffice?
 
  Yes. You should run setiathome within nice. E.g:
  nice -19 setiathome
 I've tried this and it was to no avail. I think it also has something to do 
 with memory.
 But what you do, is when you kill you setiathome, you do a kill -s SIGSTOP 
 'pid'. then you can do a kill -s SICONT 'pid' when your finished with 
 openoffice.


Is it possible to add this to one of the openoffice startup scripts so that it can be 
done automatically?


 
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Re: [gentoo-user] dma not enabled

2003-08-20 Thread Jussi Sirpoma
On 20.8.2003 18:09 Pupeno wrote:

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On Tuesday 19 August 2003 16:48, Nicolas STURMEL wrote:
Pupeno wrote:
 So, what may be wrong then ? (I didn't enable anything on the HDs yet)
Perhaps did you mis-config your kernel.
Look in IDE/ATAPI options to see if you enabled the driver corresponding
to your chipset.
What chipset ? My motherboard chipset is nForce2, but I don't see it listed 
anywhere (maybe it is another chipset ?).
Thank you.
I have nForce2 and it uses one of the amd chipsets. I have 
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX=y int the .config.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NFS Home Dir Lock Problems

2003-08-20 Thread Jason A. Pfeil
On 20 Aug 2003, Matt Neimeyer wrote:

 Hrm... Easy enough to test.
 
 Is there a way to disable that behavior? Or even just change the

Not that I know of.

 timeout? Why would I want that anyways?

I think that they were thinking that you would want it so that if you 
accidentally logged out you could log back in quickly without having to 
have gconfd start and parse your .gconf files.

But don't quote me on that.  :-)

Let me know if that helped!

--Jason

 
 Thanks!
 
 On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 10:38, Jason A. Pfeil wrote:
  I don't think this is an NFS lock problem.  From your description, you are 
  running a GNOME 2.x-based desktop.  That uses gconfd, a program to manage 
  configuration information.  Gconfd does *not* exit when you log out.  It 
  waits like five minutes in case you log in again.  So, it is holding its 
  own lockfile open.  If you log out and then log back in at the text 
  console and issue a gconftool-2 --shutdown you will be able to log in at 
  another machine.
  
  Alternatively, wait the five minutes for it to shut itself down.  :-)
  
  --Jason
  
  On 17 Aug 2003, Matt Neimeyer wrote:
  
   Hey all,
   
   I've got three machines at home all running the same versions of
   everything (so far as I can tell). Machine A is running NFS and
   exporting several home directories. If I go to Machine B first and log
   on to my profile it works but when I log out and walk over to Machine C
   it gives me the following error.
   
   Please contact your system administrator to resolve the following
   problem: Could not resolve the address xml:readwrite:/home/matt/.gconf
   in the configuration file /etc/gconf/2/path: Failed to lock
   '/home/matt/.gconf/%gconf-xml-backend.lock/ior': probably another
   process has the lock, or your operating system has NFS file locking
   misconfigured (Resource temporarily unavailable)
   
   If I go to either Machine B or Machine C first it works. If I log out
   then reboot I can go anywhere. If I don't reboot the first machine I log
   in to I can't log in anywhere else. This is for any profile and any
   order of machine log in/out.
   
   Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
   
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[gentoo-user] error updating portage

2003-08-20 Thread Gëzim
Hi,
I was trying to update portage with: emerge -u system
 # emerge -u system
Calculating system dependencies ...done!

!!! Error: the dev-perl/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.05-r6
package conflicts with this package and both can't be
installed on the same system together.
#

And I got that error...how do I fix it?

Thanks,
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RE: [gentoo-user] error updating portage

2003-08-20 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
You updated perl, which means you need to do a emerge -up system and there is a 
ExtUtils that needs to be unintstalled..

Check it out..

You don't do emerge -up system before you update your system??  wowzers

Jeff

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Subject: [gentoo-user] error updating portage


Hi,
I was trying to update portage with: emerge -u system
 # emerge -u system
Calculating system dependencies ...done!

!!! Error: the dev-perl/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.05-r6
package conflicts with this package and both can't be
installed on the same system together.
#

And I got that error...how do I fix it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] error updating portage

2003-08-20 Thread Lloyd D Budd
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 14:43, Gëzim Hoxha wrote:
 Hi,
 I was trying to update portage with: emerge -u system
  # emerge -u system
 Calculating system dependencies ...done!
 
 !!! Error: the dev-perl/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.05-r6
 package conflicts with this package and both can't be
 installed on the same system together.
 #
 
 And I got that error...how do I fix it?

merge unmerge dev-perl/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.05-r6

see http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030728-newsletter.xml for
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Re: [gentoo-user] dma not enabled

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Young


Jussi Sirpoma wrote:

 On 20.8.2003 18:09 Pupeno wrote:

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  On Tuesday 19 August 2003 16:48, Nicolas STURMEL wrote:
  Pupeno wrote:
   So, what may be wrong then ? (I didn't enable anything on the HDs yet)
 
  Perhaps did you mis-config your kernel.
  Look in IDE/ATAPI options to see if you enabled the driver corresponding
  to your chipset.
 
  What chipset ? My motherboard chipset is nForce2, but I don't see it listed
  anywhere (maybe it is another chipset ?).
  Thank you.

 I have nForce2 and it uses one of the amd chipsets. I have
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX=y int the .config.

Let us know what happens when you recompile and install a kernel with this
compiled in.



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Re: [gentoo-user] usb mass storage

2003-08-20 Thread Pupeno
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On Friday 15 August 2003 04:35, Klaus-Uwe Kempa wrote:
 David H. Askew wrote:
 it wouldn't show up as /dev/sgX or something like that .. i'm not that
 familiar with the psuedo scsi stuff

 Check /etc/fstab. Ihave

 usbfs  /proc/bus/usb   usbfsrw,devmode=0660,devgid=432   0 0
I don't have it in my vfat, but it still mounts it:
# mount | grep usb
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)

 /dev/sdb1  /mnt/usbHD vfat rw,uid=klaus,nodev,exec,noauto,async  0 0

 and it works fine (klaus is the main user). If You have not another scsi
 device,
 /dev/sda1 would do it. It was a great problem for me until I read an
 article from
  Juergen Schmidt/ Axel Vahldiek in c't 13/2003 pp208. As su You can
 check with
fdisk -l /dev/sda
fdisk -l /dev/sdb
...
 what is the proper device type.
It still doesn't appear as a scsi device to be accessed, this worked without 
problem in Ark Linux :(
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Re: [gentoo-user] MozFierbird bookmarks

2003-08-20 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Wednesday 20 Aug 2003 18:50, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 Still no bookmarks, though. Am I screwed or is there a way to
 recover them? Does anyone have any idea about what may have happened?

I periodically lose my bookmarks in Mozilla 1.4.  I don't know what 
causes it but I restored from backup.  You do do backups, don't you?

Now I regularly copy ~/.mozilla/default/bookmarks.html to 
~/.mozilla/bookmarks.html and ~/bookmarks.html so I have ready-to-use 
backups.

Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] MozFierbird bookmarks

2003-08-20 Thread Chris I
On 2003.08.20 15:17, Peter Ruskin wrote:
On Wednesday 20 Aug 2003 18:50, Ernie Schroder wrote:
 Still no bookmarks, though. Am I screwed or is there a way
to
 recover them? Does anyone have any idea about what may have
happened?
I periodically lose my bookmarks in Mozilla 1.4.  I don't know what
causes it but I restored from backup.  You do do backups, don't you?
Now I regularly copy ~/.mozilla/default/bookmarks.html to
~/.mozilla/bookmarks.html and ~/bookmarks.html so I have ready-to-use
backups.
Last time i checked, Mozilla-Firebird was still using .phoenix for it's 
storage needs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread Jason Nielsen
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, daniel wrote:

 On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:56, stephen wrote:
  I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but 
  would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can.
  
  Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
   and have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those
   out and use 3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr,
   usr/local, var and tmp.
  
  I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the 
  best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated.

Try this:

1) Pull the HD from your old system and shove it in your new one.
2) Fire up your new system with the Gentoo install CD
3) Mount your old partitions under /mnt/gentoo say
4) make a chroot jail like you do when installing
5) modify make.conf to your liking (athlon-xp CFLAGS and new USE stuff)
6) emerge -ueD world
7) when finished unmount the chroot jail 
8) Rebood to your new system.

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Re: [gentoo-user] udma question

2003-08-20 Thread Andrew Farmer
At 20 August, 2003 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 August 2003 00:06, Jorge Almeida wrote:
  OK, since today is dma-day...:)
  I have two HDs, hda and hdc (hdb is the DVD/ROM drive and hdd doesn't
  exist). Both IDE channels have 80-conductor 40-pin cables.
 
 you should not (never!) but a harddisk and a cdrom/dvd-drive on one channel.
 Never. 
 It is a common source of slowdowns and trouble.

Even if you never really use the [CD|DVD] drive?

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RE: [gentoo-user] udma question

2003-08-20 Thread Kevin Bucknum

 you should not (never!) but a harddisk and a cdrom/dvd-drive 
on one channel.
 Never. 
 It is a common source of slowdowns and trouble.

Even if you never really use the [CD|DVD] drive?

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The fastest any device will ever run on that channel will be whatever the
slowest device is.  So even if you never use the CD/DVD drive,  your hard
drive will be limited to the speed of the CD/DVD drive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] udma question

2003-08-20 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Wednesday 20 Aug 2003 20:35, Kevin Bucknum wrote:
  you should not (never!) but a harddisk and a cdrom/dvd-drive
 
 on one channel.
 
  Never.
  It is a common source of slowdowns and trouble.
 
 Even if you never really use the [CD|DVD] drive?
 
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 The fastest any device will ever run on that channel will be whatever
 the slowest device is.  So even if you never use the CD/DVD drive, 
 your hard drive will be limited to the speed of the CD/DVD drive.

I don't believe this is true any more.

hda - ATA133
hdb - ATA66
hdc - ATA133
hdd - PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-105 (/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd)

hdparm -t /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  124 MB in  3.03 seconds =  40.92 MB/sec

hdparm -t /dev/hdb
/dev/hdb:
 Timing buffered disk reads:   38 MB in  3.14 seconds =  12.10 MB/sec

hdparm -t /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  126 MB in  3.02 seconds =  41.72 MB/sec

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with Compaq

2003-08-20 Thread Mark Johanson
try looking under /dev/cciss/disk0

Thats where I found the drives finally on a dl380 I am currently
setting up for Gentoo... I also posted this info in the
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Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread Bryce
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 12:21 pm, Jason Nielsen wrote:
 Try this:

 1) Pull the HD from your old system and shove it in your new one.
 2) Fire up your new system with the Gentoo install CD
 3) Mount your old partitions under /mnt/gentoo say
 4) make a chroot jail like you do when installing
 5) modify make.conf to your liking (athlon-xp CFLAGS and new USE stuff)
 6) emerge -ueD world
 7) when finished unmount the chroot jail
 8) Rebood to your new system.

Sounds very similar to a new install... but easier! Requires less personal 
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[gentoo-user] CFLAGS in make.conf

2003-08-20 Thread Meka[ni]
I'm using -O3 -march=pentium2 -mmmx -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe 
as CFLAGS
(and CXXFLAGS), and I wonder if -mmmx may be omited. The actual question is, does
-march=xxx includes mmx, mmx2, 3dnow, 3dnow2, sse and sse2 for appropriate arch? And 
what
to use as CFLAGS for my Celeron 300A (Mendocino)? Thanx a lot. :o)


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RE: [gentoo-user] udma question

2003-08-20 Thread Kevin Bucknum

 The fastest any device will ever run on that channel will be whatever
 the slowest device is.  So even if you never use the CD/DVD drive, 
 your hard drive will be limited to the speed of the CD/DVD drive.

I don't believe this is true any more.

hda - ATA133
hdb - ATA66
hdc - ATA133
hdd - PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-105 (/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd)

hdparm -t /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  124 MB in  3.03 seconds =  40.92 MB/sec

hdparm -t /dev/hdb
/dev/hdb:
 Timing buffered disk reads:   38 MB in  3.14 seconds =  12.10 MB/sec

hdparm -t /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  126 MB in  3.02 seconds =  41.72 MB/sec

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my hdparm -v -i

UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 *udma4
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 *udma4 udma5

First is my 13 gig primary and second is my 30 gig secondary. I'll have to
triple check the cable when I get home to make sure that's not the bottle
neck.  I know the board will do ata/100 since I had that drive on the other
channel before I bought a dvd drive and it was doing it there.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS in make.conf

2003-08-20 Thread Luis Morales
Take a look here

http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3opt.html

Now the others flag  mmx, mmx2, 3dnow, 3dnow2, etc you must be setting 
on USE clausule.

Regards,

LM

Meka[ni] wrote:

I'm using -O3 -march=pentium2 -mmmx -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe 
as CFLAGS
(and CXXFLAGS), and I wonder if -mmmx may be omited. The actual question is, does
-march=xxx includes mmx, mmx2, 3dnow, 3dnow2, sse and sse2 for appropriate arch? And 
what
to use as CFLAGS for my Celeron 300A (Mendocino)? Thanx a lot. :o)

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Re: [gentoo-user] MozFierbird bookmarks

2003-08-20 Thread Piotr 'p1t3r05' Piasny
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:21:32 -0400
Chris I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2003.08.20 15:17, Peter Ruskin wrote:
  On Wednesday 20 Aug 2003 18:50, Ernie Schroder wrote:
   Still no bookmarks, though. Am I screwed or is there a way
  to
   recover them? Does anyone have any idea about what may have
  happened?
  
  I periodically lose my bookmarks in Mozilla 1.4.  I don't know what
  causes it but I restored from backup.  You do do backups, don't you?
  
  Now I regularly copy ~/.mozilla/default/bookmarks.html to
  ~/.mozilla/bookmarks.html and ~/bookmarks.html so I have
  ready-to-use backups.
 
 Last time i checked, Mozilla-Firebird was still using .phoenix for
 it's storage needs.
 
ROTFL,

that's true, I lost my bookmarks too, make backup and you're done

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Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS in make.conf

2003-08-20 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 21 August 2003 03:37, Meka[ni] wrote:
   I'm using -O3 -march=pentium2 -mmmx -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer
 -pipe as CFLAGS (and CXXFLAGS), and I wonder if -mmmx may be omited. The
 actual question is, does -march=xxx includes mmx, mmx2, 3dnow, 3dnow2, sse
 and sse2 for appropriate arch? And what to use as CFLAGS for my Celeron
 300A (Mendocino)? Thanx a lot. :o)

There's quite a bit of discussion on this in the forums, although it's quite 
hard to find (among the many many pages in each forum). Basically, -march 
doesn't add -mmx when using gcc 3.2. However, that's because gcc 3.2 doesn't 
really support the extensions. If you do add it, gcc adds -mno-mmx without 
telling you. Adding it with gcc 3.3 works, but I believe -march will add it 
where appropriate, anyway.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6 oddities

2003-08-20 Thread Jason Stubbs
 Jason Stubbs wrote:
  I get several errors about modules, including some from cardmgr.
  However, as with you, everything is working fine so I haven't taken
  the time to find the source yet.

On Tuesday 19 August 2003 19:28, Ulrich Plate wrote:
 Is there a log for all these error messages, by the way? dmesg
 doesn't record any of this, all I see is output to stout, but it's
 scrolling past the screen at a tremendous pace, and I don't really feel
 like booting a few dozen times and trying to take notes.

The best I've found is grepping /var/log/everything/current for modprobe. Of 
course, that only includes info of what modules errors happened after the 
kernel logger starts. It's not too informative either, but maybe a starting 
point.

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Re: [gentoo-user] MozFierbird bookmarks

2003-08-20 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Wednesday 20 August 2003 06:34 pm, Piotr 'p1t3r05' Piasny wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:21:32 -0400

 Chris I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 2003.08.20 15:17, Peter Ruskin wrote:
   On Wednesday 20 Aug 2003 18:50, Ernie Schroder wrote:
Still no bookmarks, though. Am I screwed or is there a
way
  
   to
  
recover them? Does anyone have any idea about what may have
  
   happened?
  
   I periodically lose my bookmarks in Mozilla 1.4.  I don't know
   what causes it but I restored from backup.  You do do backups,
   don't you?
  
   Now I regularly copy ~/.mozilla/default/bookmarks.html to
   ~/.mozilla/bookmarks.html and ~/bookmarks.html so I have
   ready-to-use backups.
 
  Last time i checked, Mozilla-Firebird was still using .phoenix for
  it's storage needs.


Oh Well. They're gone. I can recover most of them from my other browsers 
but I'd like to know what happened.

 ROTFL,

 that's true, I lost my bookmarks too, make backup and you're done

I have many things backed up but not bookmarks. Ahh well I have this 
spare 20 gig drive that will go into the other box tomorrow and back 
ups will finally be done routinely. HMMM reminds me of a story about a 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Going from P3 to Athlon XP

2003-08-20 Thread Dave I
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:56:32 -0500, stephen wrote:

=) I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but 
=) would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can.
=) 
=) Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer and 
=) have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those out and use 
=) 3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr, usr/local, var and tmp.
=) 
=) I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the 
=) best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated.
=) 

For what it's worth, my -march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
HD booted on a P4 machine, didnt play with it though because it was just
accidental that it booted from that HD.


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Re: [gentoo-user] dma not enabled

2003-08-20 Thread Pupeno
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On Wednesday 20 August 2003 15:55, Robert Young wrote:
 Jussi Sirpoma wrote:
  On 20.8.2003 18:09 Pupeno wrote:
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   On Tuesday 19 August 2003 16:48, Nicolas STURMEL wrote:
   Pupeno wrote:
So, what may be wrong then ? (I didn't enable anything on the HDs
yet)
  
   Perhaps did you mis-config your kernel.
   Look in IDE/ATAPI options to see if you enabled the driver
   corresponding to your chipset.
  
   What chipset ? My motherboard chipset is nForce2, but I don't see it
   listed anywhere (maybe it is another chipset ?).
   Thank you.
 
  I have nForce2 and it uses one of the amd chipsets. I have
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX=y int the .config.

 Let us know what happens when you recompile and install a kernel with this
 compiled in.
It worked, I don't get the dma error anymore and I also get this:
/dev/hda:
 multcount= 16 (on)
 IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
 unmaskirq=  1 (on)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead=  8 (on)
 geometry = 9729/255/63, sectors = 156301488, start = 0

Thank you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice - slower than death

2003-08-20 Thread Robert Kruus
It is rumored that on Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:16:45 -0400
rh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 02:23:18 +
 Håvard Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  rh wrote:
   On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:21:47 +0300
   Theofilos Intzoglou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
  Hi rh!
  
  I remember that if I try to start ooffice when my [EMAIL PROTECTED] program
  is already running with nice 19 using all available cpu, ooffice took
  about a minute to start giving me an empty window! Switching between
  open windows would make the window of ooffice appear transparent/empty
  and it was like it had frozen. However when I am not running
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ooffice starts within 10secs and all is running quite fast
  on my Athlon XP 1700+. And yes I'm using the bin package as I don't have
  the patience to wait for 12hours+ for a program to emerge just to see
  that after 10 hours of compiling it stopped with an error(yes this
  happened to me) :-) So I 'd suggest you checked if a particular program
  that you run would cause ooffice to act weird.
  
   
   
   
   Well, that was exactly the problem...I had setiathome running in the
   background and as soon as I killed it , openoffice works fine. I wish I
   had of discovered this before I un-emerged openoffice and emerged
   openoffice-bin. Is there a particular setting I can have setiathome
   running and still get good response from openoffice?
  
  Yes. You should run setiathome within nice. E.g:
  nice -19 setiathome
 
 
 That's what i have it running at right now and it doesn't do any good.

If you run the [EMAIL PROTECTED] init script, that already happens.
The one big startup issue I noticed with OpenOffice was to add the fonts through
the OO print config (spadmin).  Especially when running xfs it makes a
difference.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB 2.0 Trouble

2003-08-20 Thread Seth Zirin
Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
When i try of make a new filesystem on a new usb 2.0 mass device my laptop just 
freezes.
I had this also when i power on a digital camera that is also usb 2.0. My laptop has 
usb 2.0. I'm using without problems a usb 1.0 mass device and mice.
What can i do to avoid this?
I'm using the gentoo-sources 2.4.20-gentoo-r5
Are your USB 2.0 ports based on VIA devices?

There have been lots of VIA-related enhancements to the USB 2.0 code in 
later 2.4.21 kernels, so you might try a later kernel.  (or an NEC-based 
card)

Seth
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Re: [gentoo-user] NFS Home Dir Lock Problems

2003-08-20 Thread Matt Neimeyer
   Gconfd does *not* exit when you log out.
  Hrm... Easy enough to test.
  Is there a way to disable that behavior? Or even just change the
 Not that I know of.

I waited a good 20 minutes and still got locked out... so I tried the
gconftool-2 --shutdown and was immediatly able to log in on the other
machine.

Now if I can find a way to reset that timer

At least I have a work around.

Thanks!

Matt


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