[gentoo-user] Re: PostgreSQL 7.4
Jeff MacDonald wrote: Curious, when will pgsql 7.4 be making it into the portage tree. It is now. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastian-bergmann.de/ http://phpOpenTracker.de/ Das Buch zu PHP 5: http://professionelle-softwareentwicklung-mit-php5.de/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
begin quote On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:29:18 -0500 Jon Liebold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I was annoyed that I could not find a site anywhere that recommends which FS to use for what. With Windows the choice is mindless... NTFS... But I didn't have that luxery with my laptop install of Gentoo. Recent benchmarks put the different fs' down to some characteristics, I dug them up for you : http://fsbench.netnation.com/ comment by Jeremy (kerneltrap.org editor) In Mike's summary he labels JFS and XFS as 'best bang for your buck' explaining, While not the fastest file systems, both of them consistently perform close to EXT2, while using minimal CPU. XFS seems to be faster over a wider range of benchmarks, however it does use slightly more CPU than JFS. While JFS really starts to slow down with lots of files. -- personally I use ext2 for a lot of my systems. its hands down the fastest one, and for partitions where I shove lots of data and wipe again I don't feel that I need more than that. /var/tmp /usr/portage /usr/portage/distfiles /tmp .. all those on ext2 .. so what if the data goes boom? //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] bash/dialog problem
Alex Schuster wrote: Andrew writes: Do you need the /tmp/dlgmenu file at all? Yes. The menu is built dynamically. /tmp/dlgmenu could contain: hda Auto-partition drive /dev/hda sda Auto-partition drive /dev/sda ... Okay, but if you generate the file just to read it out later in the same script, a variable might do also. If not, you could do it like this: get the number of lines in the file, read each line, and add it to an array of arguments: menufile=/tmp/dlgmenu n=$(( `cat $menufile | wc -l` )) for (( i=0; i n; i++ )) do line[$(( $i ))]=`cat $menufile | head -$(( $i+1 )) | tail -1` done dialog --menu Choose a partition... 12 60 8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 /tmp/menuoption There might be more elegant way, though. I found out what the problem was. The above would still have the same problem, I believe. bash was interpreting the whole thing as 1 argument. Someone suggested to me to do: DLGCMD=dialog --menu Choose... 12 60 8 `cat /tmp/dlgmenu` 2 /tmp/menuoption echo $DLGCMD | bash This worked just fine. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?
Even better is IMHO courier. It's based on qmail's idea, but is a little bit normalized. -- quoting Luke Scharf -- Darnit! Oh well -- back to running Sendmail (and typing sendmail -q0 ; sendmail -bp) for me. :-) If you don't want to hack cryptic config files, I suggest you give Postfix or Qmail a try. Last one is a bit strange, but if you got it, it's extremly powerful. Greetings, Matthias -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't get KDM or X to work anymore? (SOLVED)
Protocol PS/2 Device /dev/mouse ZAxisMapping 4 5 The above should have been Protocol PS/2 Device /dev/input/mice ZAxisMapping 4 5 Funny how a mere 7 or 8 letters had me stumped for the better part of the whole day. Thanks again for your input. Carlos -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions on SSH config files and protocol
Hi Keith, Thanks for your advice. I still have some confusion on ssh client (ssh_config) and ssh server (sshd_config) To allow remote machine (client) to login to the server, exporting X-server to client side, etc., sshd_config controls it. Then what will be the function of ssh_config on the server? Whether just leaving it there untouched on the server? On the client side what will be its function, any editing be necessary? B.R. Stephen On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 21:05, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi folks, I have following questions 1) There are 2 config files /etc/ssh/ssh_config This is the global configuration for the ssh client program. /usr/bin/ssh uses this. /etc/ssh/sshd_config This is the configuration file for the ssh server (lets you log into the box that it is running on). The /usr/sbin/sshd program uses this. Their contents have some similarity. What will be their application in function and what will be their difference in application. 2) Protocol 2,1 What are SSH2 and SSH1 and their function. That means prefer the version 2 protocol over the version 1 protocol, but fall back to version 1 if version 2 is not supported by the other end. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 23:21, Martin Horak wrote: Even better is IMHO courier. It's based on qmail's idea, but is a little bit normalized. I just installed courier. I think it is great. It comes with everything! An IMAP server, POP3, filters (replaces procmail), SSL, and of course ESMTP MTA. It comes with lots of good mail tools. And yes, a saner configuration. -- quoting Luke Scharf -- Darnit! Oh well -- back to running Sendmail (and typing sendmail -q0 ; sendmail -bp) for me. :-) If you don't want to hack cryptic config files, I suggest you give Postfix or Qmail a try. Last one is a bit strange, but if you got it, it's extremly powerful. Greetings, Matthias -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- -- - Keith Dart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kdart.com/ Public key ID: B08B9D2C Public key: http://www.kdart.com/~kdart/public.key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions on SSH config files and protocol
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 23:49, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi Keith, Thanks for your advice. I still have some confusion on ssh client (ssh_config) and ssh server (sshd_config) To allow remote machine (client) to login to the server, exporting X-server to client side, etc., sshd_config controls it. Then what will be the function of ssh_config on the server? Whether just leaving it there untouched on the server? On the client side what will be its function, any editing be necessary? The client (ssh) will use the ssh_config on the machine you run it on. If that machine is not running the server (sshd) then it's sshd_config is never used. Basically, sshd uses sshd_config (wherever it is run), and ssh uses the ssh_config (wherever it is run). If you don't run sshd on a machine then obviously the sshd_config on that machine won't be used. -- -- - Keith Dart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kdart.com/ Public key ID: B08B9D2C Public key: http://www.kdart.com/~kdart/public.key signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] xdm .xinitrc
Hello, I run xdm to enter xfree. 1) Is where any way to execute my own WM (for example icewm) without changing /etc/rc.conf (only for my user). xdm execute $HOME/.xsession if only /etc/X11/chooser.sh is not present on the system, but it's present. I found only one way to choose xdm session, export XSESSION in .bash_profile, but I think this way does't right. 2) Any solution to execute programs like gkrellm2? PS: xdm don't execute any file from $HOME directory ? PPS: the solution is patch to xdm ? Sorry for my english. Thanks. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] use 2.6 live CD config to build on my desktop?
I've been struggling with configuring and building a 2.6 kernel on and off for a couple of weeks. I can't seem to build a kernel which loads properly; however, the 2.6 livecd boots fine. The easy answer seems to be that i could use the kernel settings from the CD to build a working kernel on my desktop. I read somewhere in the gentoo 1.4 install guide that you could: cat /proc/config .config I booted the 2.6 live CD and ran: #mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gentoo #cat /proc/config /mnt/gentoo/root/.conf but apparently, /proc/config does exist. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Eric Muehlstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] File transfer with SSH
Hi MAL, - snip - What will be the command for another way round. If, on MachineA, to tar a folder on MachineB, send the tarball via SSH to MachineA and untar it on select folder automatically. Is it; $ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]/path/to/folder | tar zcf cd /user:MachineA/path/to/folder tar zxf Interesting guess, but far from correct. -X is really irrelevant, as we're not doing anything X11 oriented. ssh is simply being used to run a command (tar), on the remote machine. It will forward any output of the program we run, accross the network, to the local machine (so in this case, the output of tar). So: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /path/to/folder ; tar zc . | tar zxx It works, zx only. What is the function of space and . after tar zc? If I expect to untar the tarball to a selected folder, instead of changing to the folder first to issue the command, can following command do the job $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /path/to/folder(MachineB) ; tar zc . | cd /path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx Thanks and B.R. Stephen Almost the exact opposite of the command to copy from local to remote. The | joins two commands, piping the output of one, to the input of another. ssh and tar happily send data to and from each other, with ssh acting as the go-between. MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] use 2.6 live CD config to build on my desktop?
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 23:02, Eric A Muehlstein wrote: I've been struggling with configuring and building a 2.6 kernel on and off for a couple of weeks. I can't seem to build a kernel which loads properly; however, the 2.6 livecd boots fine. The easy answer seems to be that i could use the kernel settings from the CD to build a working kernel on my desktop. I read somewhere in the gentoo 1.4 install guide that you could: cat /proc/config .config I booted the 2.6 live CD and ran: #mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/gentoo #cat /proc/config /mnt/gentoo/root/.conf but apparently, /proc/config does exist. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Eric Muehlstein use # zcat /proc/config.gz .config the 2.6 config is gzipped -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Installation of Gentoo onto Dell blade server - solved problems
Installation of Gentoo onto Dell PowerEdge 1655 MC (Blade server) I wrote this description because I think that it could be helpful to someone with the same problem, and it'll possibly save him some time. It can be also interesting for Gentoo developers, who can possibly clear problems that I encountered from future versions of this wonderful distribution. My English isn't perfect, but I hope that it'll be understandable, so let's start. I installed Gentoo Linux, version 1.4-20030911 onto Dell PowerEdge 1655 MC blade server. Do you know how blade server looks like? It has only one button - on/off/restart, one USB connector and one backplane connector. Everything else (keyboard, mouse, network) reside in chassis shared with the other five blades, connected through backplane connector. It has SCSI RAID controller PERC/4im, identified as LSI53C1030 during boot (in dmesg), and two ethernet adapters, identified as Tigon3 [partno(BCM95703A31) rev 1002 PHY(serdes)]. So I plugged in USB CDROM and booted Gentoo LiveCD. Soon I get into first problem - linuxrc script from initrd didn't find my CDROM, though it reported (successful?) USB detection, and left me in the shell. After some exploring of the linuxrc script I found simple solution: I typed exit and the script's second servis was succesful. (Note: I booted several times then, and once the script did'n detect my CDROM even on second time, but on third. Maybe it needs some pause for USB initialization?) First victory - I got the root prompt from live CD. Both network devices were correctly detected, and tg3 module loaded. I could start installing onto hard drive. But there was the second problem - I didn't see any harddisk. Hopefully I installed Mandrake 9.2 on the same hardware some time before, so I realized, that I need to load modules mptbase and mptscsih. When I tried that, I got strange errors on console and dmesg (ioc0: something_wrong), and modules didn't load. It seems that it's caused by probing other SCSI modules before, because when I rebooted without scsi option, both modules loaded without problems. Second victory - I see my discs. I promptly partitioned the disc, created volume group and some logical volumes (which is wonderful thing in Gentoo, installation on LVM without the need of LVM support in installer), and began installing. Installation from stage 2 was without problems. Third problem arose after reboot. Modules for my RAID weren't loaded - they weren't in initrd (I compiled the kernel using default genkernel). So I added them manually, edited linuxrc (fist time forgot to disable scsi checking, which resulted in not working RAID driver), and moved to the next problem. Fourth problem - the kernel still didn't see the root filesystem. I used long device names in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.conf: /dev/scsi/host1/target0/lun0/partX for my harddrive. Problem was, that when I rebooted without USB CDROM, harddisc became /dev/scsi/host0/... So I had to correct that in fstab and grub.conf. Maybe if I'd used short names like /dev/sdaX, I wouldn't encounter this problem? After correcting I got rid of kernel panic, but it still didn't boot correctly. Fifth problem was in mounting local filesystems, residing on logical volumes. There're no vgscan and vgchange -a y (needed for LVM start) in init scripts. So I added it into /etc/init.d/localmount. I also wanted to add correct shutdown of LVM into shutdown script, but it was already there! It's a little bit inconsistent I think. Third (and final) victory, my new Gentoo boots from harddisk! That's all folks! No more (bigger) problems. But I know that some will appear. :-) Have a nice day/night. Martin Horak SCE a.s. Decin, Czech republic -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] recommendation for mirroring script?
Hi! I'm on dialup (ISDN) and would like to mirror some of my darcs repositories on web-hosted server so that folks can checkout my sources. I saw several mirroring scripts in portage, but I'd like to hear some recommendation for my purposes. Sincerely, Gour -- Gour [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #278493 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network problem
On Friday 21 of November 2003 00:19, Webmaster wrote:
Simon Cahuk wrote:
Hi! Here goes my problem:
- I have tree machines on my local network. My IP adresses are:
192.168.0. {1,2,3}.
- I connect to the internet over my ISDN card on my machine.
- For NAT I use gshield.
my /etc/conf.d/net: iface_eth0=192.168.0.1 broadcast 192.168.0.255
netmask 255.255.255.0
iface_ippp0=192.168.0.100 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway=ippp0/192.168.0.100
And the problem:
I can't ping my other machines before I connect to the internet. After
connecting ping works ok.
If I change gateway=eth0/192.168.0.1, I can't ping any IP on the
internet. What do mean the interface and IP options in gateway?
So I wan't to ping my machines before connecting to the internet. How can
I manage this? Any suggestions?
first you should correct the entry for ippp0.
ppp/ippp are non-broadcast media, that are point-to-point-links
you need no defaultgateway because it is set by pppd when connecting
Ok, it was my fault. I had to add defaultroute to /etc/ppp/options.ippp0.
My network works ok now.
i have for my dsl-connection the following entry :
iface_ppp0=192.168.1.200 dynamic pointopoint 192.168.1.1
I used your iface options (the two IP's above changed to 192.168.0.120
and .10).
Thanks for your help,
Simon
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and no default gateway
of course you should name your interface ippp0, I think you can set
ip-address to whatever you like, but prefer non-local adresses from a
private zone
Martin
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Re: [gentoo-user] File transfer with SSH
Stephen Liu wrote: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /path/to/folder ; tar zc . | tar zxx It works, zx only. What is the function of space and . after tar zc? Yes, sorry.. zx is correct, not zxx. Blame the coffee :) When compressing, if tar isn't compressing stdin, it needs to be told what to compress. '.' specifies the current directory (on the remote host), which we have just changed to with cd. If I expect to untar the tarball to a selected folder, instead of changing to the folder first to issue the command, can following command do the job $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /path/to/folder(MachineB) ; tar zc . | cd /path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx I'm not sure it will, because 'cd' will then get stdin piped to it, and not to tar. I'll test... ok, the problem with your command is that bash does not see as a command, and so won't execute: cd /path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx Instead, you must run those commands in a subshell, like this: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /path/to/folder(MachineB) ; tar zc . | ( cd /path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx ) ie. brackets instead of double quotes. That worked for me :) MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
031120 Martin Horak wrote: how you find package by name of the file it contains? I can list files only in packages, which are already installed. Is it possible to see what files WILL BE installed by emerge something? For example /sbin/ip - finally I found it in iproute package, but only by chance. Does exist some utility or search engine for this? Now I'm seeking the host utility. 'qpkg -f /sbin/ip' will tell you which package owns it. there doesn't seem to be a way of finding out before installing something. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excluding files form emerge world
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 09:05:09PM +0100, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: Whats the best way to exclude files form a emerge -U world? I don't want to update my nvidea The following is not an all-in-one solution, but might work: if you remove the nvidia entry in /var/cache/edb/world, then running emerge -U world shouldn't upgrade that entry. If you however do a emerge -U --deep world, then it will probably be upgraded nevertheless (unless no in the world file eventually depends on it). Wkr, Sven Vermeulen -- ^__^ And Larry saw that it was Good. (oo) Sven Vermeulen (__) http://www.gentoo.org Gentoo Documentation Project pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions on SSH config files and protocol
Stephen Liu wrote: Hi folks, I have following questions 1) There are 2 config files /etc/ssh/ssh_config /etc/ssh/sshd_config Their contents have some similarity. What will be their application in function and what will be their difference in application. 2) Protocol 2,1 What are SSH2 and SSH1 and their function. Kindly advise. man ssh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OpenOffice.Org 1.1. font problem
Morning, in a past I installed URW iso-8859-2 (lat2) fonts using Font Installer (in my user's account on KDE desktop) to use them in OOo. All was OK in OOo, but it happens to me from time to time, that fonts disapeares from the menu. To make it run again I have to run Font Installer, select all dispayed fonts (no ADDing is neccessary) and click ACCEPT, OK buttons. Since it happens only if I am in time stress (Murphy's law :-) ), I never had time to figure out what went wrong and the reason why it happend. Anybody else meet such problem ? noro -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] RE : [gentoo-user] problem with X locking up
Title: RE : [gentoo-user] problem with X locking up I had the same problem with my graphic card ati radeon 8500 It was working during several month and suddenly, I had several freezes at X launch ... You can kill some files relating to the X server in /var directory. But to solve the problem, I changed the card drivers ( drivers coming from ati) and since, I never got problem like this. Cheers .. Stéphane -Message d'origine- De : Aaron Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : mercredi 19 novembre 2003 11:36 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : [gentoo-user] problem with X locking up I got home from work this morning (I work nights), to find my machine locked up. This also happened the day before last. I could not switch to any of the terminals (via ctrl-alt-F1, etc). I was able to login via ssh from another pc, however. After running top, I noticed X was using 99% cpu. Sending X the SIGKILL signal was the only way I could get back into the box w/o rebooting. I'm kind of awestruck because I've used linux for 6 or 7 years now and this is literally the first incident I've had with anything locking up on me. It's happened twice so far, both during the night while I was at work. I would think if it was an overheating problem it would happen during the day while I am sleeping, but it hasn't so far. Any ideas on what might be causing this? Thanks, Aaron -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Ce message contient des informations confidentielles ou appartenant au Crédit Lyonnais et est établi à l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires. Toute divulgation, utilisation, diffusion ou reproduction (totale ou partielle) de ce message, ou des informations qu'il contient, doit être préalablement autorisée. Tout message électronique est susceptible d'altération et son intégrité ne peut être assurée. Le Crédit Lyonnais décline toute responsabilité au titre de ce message s'il a été modifié ou falsifié. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci de le détruire immédiatement et d'avertir l'expéditeur de l'erreur de distribution et de la destruction du message. Crédit Lyonnais, SA au capital de Euros 1.832.530.645 - RCS Lyon B 954 509 741 Siège Central : 19, boulevard des Italiens. 75002 Paris. France This e-mail contains confidential information or information belonging to Crédit Lyonnais and is intended solely for the addressees. The unauthorised disclosure, use, dissemination or copying (either whole or partial) of this e-mail, or any information it contains, is prohibited. E-mails are susceptible to alteration and their integrity cannot be guaranteed. Crédit Lyonnais shall not be liable for this e-mail if modified or falsified. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender of the wrong delivery and the mail deletion. Crédit Lyonnais SA. Share Capital of Euros 1.832.530.645. Registered Office : Lyon (B 954 509 741) Central and administrative Office : 19, boulevard des Italiens. 75002 Paris. France -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] X crashing
I have this very weird problem, it first occured during last night, when I was emerging world, and it reoccured during the day. My system was logged into KDE, and I was running emerge -U world in a root-terminal. When I returned in the morning, my monitor was in power-save and wouldn't wake up any more. I logged in form another system without problems, and top showed the process 'X' taking up 80 % CPU, no other processes where taking up CPU-time. I had to reboot to get back in (shutting X didn't help). Later that day, I continued the emerge, and after a while it happened again. I have never encountered this problem before, and I have no idea what is causing it (logs show nothing abnormal). Any ideas how I can find out? I run GDM 2.4.1.6, KDE 3.1.4 (QT 3.2.2-r1), Xfree4.3.0-r3 on Linux 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 #1 Thu Oct 30 14:38:06 CET 2003 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux Thanks Guy -- __ Guy Van Sanden http://unixmafia.port5.com Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Opteron, Ultimate Linux Box
as suse is using the linux kernel too gentoo will atleast perform as good if you use the correct cflags, and probably better, why wouldnt it? On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 04:06, steve wrote: Hi, In this month's _Linux Journal_, the author builds the 'Ultimate Linux Box' (ULB) with dual Opterons using SuSE Linux for the OS. Has anyone built a similar beast on Gentoo? I'm looking for some feedback on how Gentoo has performed on the Opteron. I read on the forums a few remarks about waiting unitl 1Q 2004 for the release of the socket939 64's : http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=95244highlight=opteron , but this ULB is using twin Socket 940s, which I would assume are one version/model beyond the 939. TIA, Steve -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Promblems with rc-update after adding metalog to default runlevel
Hi I have the following problem: Once I installed metalog and added it to the default runlevel by rc-update add metalog default. Before metalog I have used syslog-ng. After adding metalog, everytime I use rc-update, emerge or env-update I get the following message: [...] * Service 'syslog-ng' already provide 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'metalog'...[ ok ] * rc-update complete. I have already tried to remove metalog from the default runlevel and replace it with syslog-ng, but I still get this message. What could be the reason ? Thanx -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Contents of /var/cache/edb/world
Just ran emerge sync. Above file has: net-ftp/gftp media-sound/zinf app-text/ghostscript media-sound/alsa-driver sys-kernel/gentoo-sources net-www/mplayerplug-in net-print/cups and nothing else. Seems I should be worried, but I'm not sure. Any advice appreciated. Thanks. -- Ed Jabbour -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Strange error message installing kde
Hi, I'm new to Gentoo and this list. I think I like Gentoo :-) Right now, I'm in the process of installing kde on my old laptop, a 266MHz Dell Latitude from stage 1 (I started on Sunday afternoon, - this is definitely not a distro for the impatient). I probably did a stupid thing as I had just finished ch. 24 in the install-doc, and was looking in the wrong place as I wrote emerge -k kde before I had rebooted the system. Oh well ... I just kept it going since it seemed to be doing fine anyway, but after a while I got this uneasy feeling when this error message started popping up: QSettings: error creating /root/.qt I decided to interrupt the process, and hit Ctrl-C. After that I did an etc-update, and umounted. When I removed the CD and tried the reboot command, a lot of error messages started rolling, seeming to indicate that the system still was looking for the CD. I just hit the power switch. The system came up again quite nicely, and the network connection was there. So I went on with the Desktop Configuration Guide, following the instructions closely. However, as I am now in the emerge kde stage, the same QSettings error message continues to appear. Should I start all over again, or is this something that may be resolved later? regards, -- Leif Biberg Kristensen - http://solumslekt.org/ Validare necesse est. mail to leifbk at online dot no -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
That's very bad for me... :-( How do you find package, which offers libsomething.so.1 then? Aren't there any plans for search engine similar to rpmfind? how you find package by name of the file it contains? I can list files only in packages, which are already installed. Is it possible to see what files WILL BE installed by emerge something? For example /sbin/ip - finally I found it in iproute package, but only by chance. Does exist some utility or search engine for this? Now I'm seeking the host utility. 'qpkg -f /sbin/ip' will tell you which package owns it. there doesn't seem to be a way of finding out before installing something. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot problems - AMD64 install
*Mounting local filesystems ... I got also all sort of lock ups from my system, and it turned out to be a problem with one of my harddrives. When I removed it it magically worked again. I had this one, and ide disk, on a pci ide card. So it might have been a combination of harddrive failure and pci card that didn't play well. I was however able to boot the live cd with the faulty harddrive and it worked OK, so it might be some kernel option thats interfering. F.ex it might be that you have more than one sata driver, and that they for some reason don't play nice together. So I would check out the harddrive and make sure it's not faulty. next thing would be to check if the mainboard is OK. -- Sigurd Stordal master in Petrology/mineralogy President of GOGS Opuscreator VS in DNM95 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Contents of /var/cache/edb/world
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:09:52AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just ran emerge sync. Above file has: net-ftp/gftp media-sound/zinf app-text/ghostscript media-sound/alsa-driver sys-kernel/gentoo-sources net-www/mplayerplug-in net-print/cups and nothing else. Seems I should be worried, but I'm not sure. Any advice appreciated. Thanks. The world-file contains the names of the packages you have installed using emerge package. It only contains those packages, not the dependencies. If you would reinstall Gentoo, you should be able to get your system in exact the same state by just emerging all mentioned packages. If you think that the world-file is corrupt, you can run /usr/lib/portage/bin/regenworld. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen -- ^__^ And Larry saw that it was Good. (oo) Sven Vermeulen (__) http://www.gentoo.org Gentoo Documentation Project pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
On Friday 21 November 2003 21:15, Martin Horak wrote: That's very bad for me... :-( How do you find package, which offers libsomething.so.1 then? There's usually no need to no what package provides a library. All you need to do is emerge the software you want and portage will make sure any library you want is emerge with it. On the other hand, if the software you want isn't in portage you can look at it's list of deps on its homepage and then use emerge -s to find what the package name of the library is. The reason why there is no file-package database is because what files a package will emerge is unknown. What files a package may emerge could be catalogued but the files are dependent entirely on use flags. The question most users usually ask is what package provides executable x? As of yet, there is no easy answer other than to ask here and somebody will probably tell you - I've never seen a case where it hasn't been answered. But make sure to search first! Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Promblems with rc-update after adding metalog to default runlevel
I have the following problem: Once I installed metalog and added it to the default runlevel by rc-update add metalog default. Before metalog I have used syslog-ng. After adding metalog, everytime I use rc-update, emerge or env-update I get the following message: [...] * Service 'syslog-ng' already provide 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'metalog'...[ ok ] * rc-update complete. I have already tried to remove metalog from the default runlevel and replace it with syslog-ng, but I still get this message. What could be the reason ? Since the file syslog-ng is still in /etc/init.d after unmerging syslog you'll have to remove it your self so that depscan.sh won't consider it anymore... Else it will think that you still have syslog installed and providing logger. rm /etc/init.d/syslog-ng rc-update add metalog default Patrick Börjesson -- Public key id: 4C5AB0BF Public key available at search.keyserver.net[:11371] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Contents of /var/cache/edb/world
On Friday 21 November 2003 21:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just ran emerge sync. Above file has: net-ftp/gftp media-sound/zinf app-text/ghostscript media-sound/alsa-driver sys-kernel/gentoo-sources net-www/mplayerplug-in net-print/cups and nothing else. Seems I should be worried, but I'm not sure. Any advice appreciated. Thanks. That would be a list of the only things you've installed explicitly. Dependencies of those apps are not listed in the world file. There is also an option to emerge that will install a package without adding it to the world file. emerge sync, btw, has no impact on the world file. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Martin Horak wrote: Even better is IMHO courier. It's based on qmail's idea, but is a little bit normalized. I've had problems with courier in the past but I can't remember off-hand what they are. The best one I've seen for ease of use and maintainability is postfix. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Promblems with rc-update after adding metalog to default runlevel
not that i am sure, but try stop syslog-ng first, and remove it with rc-update del syslog-ng and then rc-update add metalog default On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 13:43, humbaba wrote: Hi I have the following problem: Once I installed metalog and added it to the default runlevel by rc-update add metalog default. Before metalog I have used syslog-ng. After adding metalog, everytime I use rc-update, emerge or env-update I get the following message: [...] * Service 'syslog-ng' already provide 'logger'!; * Not adding service 'metalog'...[ ok ] * rc-update complete. I have already tried to remove metalog from the default runlevel and replace it with syslog-ng, but I still get this message. What could be the reason ? Thanx -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xdm .xinitrc
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Selentek 24331-03 wrote: Hello, I run xdm to enter xfree. 1) Is where any way to execute my own WM (for example icewm) without changing /etc/rc.conf (only for my user). Create a .xinitrc file where you can execute your window manager as well as other applications you want to start. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Excluding files form emerge world
I have found that touching the module is safest. At one time I was removing things like lm-sensors, vmware, nvidia etc from the world file and twice I ended up with major corruption. I am not sure of the cause but suspect that the world file supplements other configs elsewhere (/var/db/pkg/* ?) and when they disagree ... BillK On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 18:18, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 09:05:09PM +0100, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: Whats the best way to exclude files form a emerge -U world? I don't want to update my nvidea The following is not an all-in-one solution, but might work: if you remove the nvidia entry in /var/cache/edb/world, then running emerge -U world shouldn't upgrade that entry. If you however do a emerge -U --deep world, then it will probably be upgraded nevertheless (unless no in the world file eventually depends on it). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Martin Horak wrote: That's very bad for me... :-( How do you find package, which offers libsomething.so.1 then? Aren't there any plans for search engine similar to rpmfind? I don't understand why that's bad for you. What problem are you having that you need to know what package has a particular library or other file? It's often not hard to figure out from the name of the library which package it's in. Emerge handles all dependencies if the script is written correctly. RPM has an advantage over emerge in that regard, if you can call it an advantage. RPMs have all the files in them. Since emerge builds from source, we don't know what files will be included until it's already installed at which point we can enumerate. I don't really see the point of creating a lot more disk space overhead to house such a database even if that disk space is housed in the network somewhere. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
Use what you want. I run XFS on all my Gentoo boxes even though they are workstations essentially. I like the reliablity of it and the ease/speed with which it repairs. On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:29:18 -0500 Jon Liebold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question would be this: Is XFS a general use file system or something I would use on a Xeon to IA-64/MIPS system only? Personally, I was annoyed that I could not find a site anywhere that recommends which FS to use for what. With Windows the choice is mindless... NTFS... But I didn't have that luxery with my laptop install of Gentoo. Jon -Original Message- From: Collins Richey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:12 AM To: g2 Subject: [gentoo-user] XFS It is interesting that this recommendation is only present for XFS among the journaled filesystem choices. What is the justification for this putdown of XFS? I communicate with other groups, and almost universally people sing the praises of XFS (including use for critical servers). Is this just an old wives tale from the early days of XFS? Did someone put this in and it was never reviewed? Almost anyone I talk to maintains that XFS recovers from power failures just as well as any other journaling fs. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:56:43 -0500 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use what you want. I run XFS on all my Gentoo boxes even though they are workstations essentially. I like the reliablity of it and the ease/speed with which it repairs. Ditto. XFS has saved me so many times... groups, and almost universally people sing the praises of XFS (including use for critical servers). Is this just an old wives tale from the early days of XFS? Did someone put this in and it was never reviewed? Almost anyone I talk to maintains that XFS recovers from power failures just as well as any other journaling fs. You have to install it properly, following the steps on the Gentoo web page. Jerry -- Jerry Jorgenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.j3iss.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] PIIXn tuning switch to allow my dell laptop to do udma5
I have the exact same setup and dmesg is showing me: hda: 39070080 sectors (20003 MB) w/1768Kib Cache, CHS=38760/16/63, UDMA(100) and I am running 2.6.0-test9-mm2 sources. And so far everything on this C610 is functioning even ACPI. Derek -Original Message- From: Bill Kenworthy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 8:43 PM To: GenToo-User List Subject: [gentoo-user] PIIXn tuning switch to allow my dell laptop to do udma5 Until recently I was able to use the kernel PIIXn tuning switch to allow my dell laptop to do udma5, but since this was removed from the later kernels I have been stuck at udma2. The chipset is apparently a ICH3M (82801CAM) - is there any other driver that I should be using for this chipset? Kernel at the moment is gs-sources-2.4.23_pre8. BillK -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
* On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:56:43 -0500, brett holcomb wrote: Use what you want. I run XFS on all my Gentoo boxes even though they are workstations essentially. I like the reliablity of it and the ease/speed with which it repairs. I can second that. If you ask people about their prefered filesystem, you will have some that praise XFS, some that choose Reiser, others that do ext3. Chances are high that you will also hear horrible stories about all of those filesystems, based on real users experiences. Personally, I'm running XFS on servers both in our university and at home and had no troubles so far, even after power outtakes. Another big plus of XFS is xfsdump/xfsrestore which makes backups much easier. ;) Regards, Jens -- BOFH excuse #397: T-1's congested due to porn traffic to the news server. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OOPS! Console mode destroyed!
Eerh! ... ... This is embarrassing. I wanted to kow what is in the /etc/localtime file, so I did: cat /etc/localtime And now my gentoo install procedure console character set has gone crazy. Only the character colours are right. The rest is a mess. How can I restore it to default? Jonas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OOPS! Console mode destroyed!
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Jonas Widarsson wrote: Eerh! ... ... This is embarrassing. I wanted to kow what is in the /etc/localtime file, so I did: cat /etc/localtime And now my gentoo install procedure console character set has gone crazy. Only the character colours are right. The rest is a mess. How can I restore it to default? 'reset' to reset your terminal. And I advise always using less. :) -- CAUTION: Product will be hot after heating -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OOPS! Console mode destroyed!
On Friday 21 November 2003 22:36, Jonas Widarsson wrote: Eerh! ... ... This is embarrassing. I wanted to kow what is in the /etc/localtime file, so I did: cat /etc/localtime And now my gentoo install procedure console character set has gone crazy. Only the character colours are right. The rest is a mess. How can I restore it to default? Enter reset Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OOPS! Console mode destroyed!
Have you tried 'reset' ? Is it just one terminal or all the tty's? On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 08:36, Jonas Widarsson wrote: Eerh! ... ... This is embarrassing. I wanted to kow what is in the /etc/localtime file, so I did: cat /etc/localtime And now my gentoo install procedure console character set has gone crazy. Only the character colours are right. The rest is a mess. How can I restore it to default? Jonas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Installation error: changed while moved
Hallo, I used without any problem Gentoo for several months, two weeks ago Win2k deleted my main partition, I could not recover anything (damn), so I decided to re-install Gentoo. From the first installation I added a RAID pci board and an U2SCSI HDD, nothing else, but now, simply I cannot install Gentoo, I tried to remove the RAID board, but was useless. The scripts/bootstrap.sh script work fine, but when I try to emerge the system I receive an error, some file ¨changed while copied¨, I don't understand why the first installation worked fine and now I get problems. I tried not to use the scsi hdd (the first installation was on an ide hdd), I tried to change the boot-kernel (both gentoo and smp, I have two CPUs), the filesystem and so on, but didnt work. The package that give me errors is flex-2.5.4a, I know that flex2.5.4 is very old, so I tried to rename it as 2.5.04 in order to help the system to understand that 2.5.31 is newer, but gentoo told me that a dependecy was masked. I tried using ebuild in order to force the compilation of flex2.5.31, but portage told me the same as above, that the requested version of flex (the 2.5.4) was masked, so the installation stopped. Another thing, I use a 56k modem, so I used the same two cd set of the first time I used Gento, I downloaded nothing, so I don't understand what is going wrong. Someone can help me, I search for info on Internet, but I found nothing. Thanks, Pietro. PS: help me, I want my Gentoo, now I'm using RedHat9 :-( PPS: excuse me for my english, I wrote the mail in hurry. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
now we talk about filesystems, i have lost my respect to many filesystems, if the power fails while doing stuff on reiserfs and ext3 i loose files, that _NEVER_ happend to me with fat32, and it doesent even have a journal, and yet, i have fat32 for my stuff, and ext3 for my system, and if power goes, i might loose files on my ext3, but NEVER on my fat32 On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 14:28, Jens Mayer wrote: * On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:56:43 -0500, brett holcomb wrote: Use what you want. I run XFS on all my Gentoo boxes even though they are workstations essentially. I like the reliablity of it and the ease/speed with which it repairs. I can second that. If you ask people about their prefered filesystem, you will have some that praise XFS, some that choose Reiser, others that do ext3. Chances are high that you will also hear horrible stories about all of those filesystems, based on real users experiences. Personally, I'm running XFS on servers both in our university and at home and had no troubles so far, even after power outtakes. Another big plus of XFS is xfsdump/xfsrestore which makes backups much easier. ;) Regards, Jens -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OOPS! Console mode destroyed!
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:36:38 +0100 Jonas Widarsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JW Eerh! ... ... This is embarrassing. JW JW I wanted to kow what is in the /etc/localtime file, so I did: JW JW cat /etc/localtime JW JW And now my gentoo install procedure console character set has gone JW crazy. JW Only the character colours are right. The rest is a mess. JW JW How can I restore it to default? Type reset. Robert. -- Robert Cernansky E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
That's very bad for me... :-( How do you find package, which offers libsomething.so.1 then? Aren't there any plans for search engine similar to rpmfind? I don't understand why that's bad for you. What problem are you having that you need to know what package has a particular library or other file? It's often not hard to figure out from the name of the library which package it's in. Emerge handles all dependencies if the script is written correctly. RPM has an advantage over emerge in that regard, if you can call it an advantage. RPMs have all the files in them. Since emerge builds from source, we don't know what files will be included until it's already installed at which point we can enumerate. I don't really see the point of creating a lot more disk space overhead to house such a database even if that disk space is housed in the network somewhere. Ric OK, ok, not very bad... :-) But I can imagine situation: I compile some program, which has no ebuild, and it depends on some library, which is in standard ebuild package, but I cannot find it, if its name is completely different from ebuild's name.This didn't happen to me yet (I'm using gentoo for a week :-)). What happened to me was, that I desperately searched for my favorite /sbin/ip for several hours. How can I know, that it's in iproute and not in iputils. I have to install it to realize! I think there should be some index - web page/application is sufficient - listing all files in packages compiled with maximum USE flags. Doesn't Gentoo have something like GRP? It could serve this purpose. Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
you mite also notice that they had to build it like that to survive all the reboots it had to endure other file systems we designed with performance not saftey in mind :) P - Original Message - From: Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gentoo Maillinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] XFS now we talk about filesystems, i have lost my respect to many filesystems, if the power fails while doing stuff on reiserfs and ext3 i loose files, that _NEVER_ happend to me with fat32, and it doesent even have a journal, and yet, i have fat32 for my stuff, and ext3 for my system, and if power goes, i might loose files on my ext3, but NEVER on my fat32 On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 14:28, Jens Mayer wrote: * On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:56:43 -0500, brett holcomb wrote: Use what you want. I run XFS on all my Gentoo boxes even though they are workstations essentially. I like the reliablity of it and the ease/speed with which it repairs. I can second that. If you ask people about their prefered filesystem, you will have some that praise XFS, some that choose Reiser, others that do ext3. Chances are high that you will also hear horrible stories about all of those filesystems, based on real users experiences. Personally, I'm running XFS on servers both in our university and at home and had no troubles so far, even after power outtakes. Another big plus of XFS is xfsdump/xfsrestore which makes backups much easier. ;) Regards, Jens -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] multiple network configs
Sorry, I sent my last mail from the wrong address. Don't respond to it as it wil bounce... reply to this one instead. Matthieu --- Original mail --- Hello, I just installed gentoo on my new thinkpad x31 with no particular problem. It's my first gentoo installation and I'm quite enthusiastic about it, even if compiling openoffice almost discouraged me ;-) However, I've got a problem with network configuration: I would like my laptop to start with no network, and be able to start manually: - a static ethernet connection at work - a dhcp ethernet connection at home - possibly a dial-up modem connection sometimes. I tried to disable net.eth0 in the default level, but it tries to start anyway (I could not find what service depends upon it and starts it). If the machine is not connected to the network, my box hangs for a while after boot just before displaying the login prompt. Also, if I'm not connected to the network, gentoo fails to set up the domain name (/etc/init.d/domainname says it sets the dns and nis domains right, but the login prompts myname.nknown_domain, and dnsdomain returns none). This is a big problem because I'm using a program that refuses to start if the domain name is not set. So how can I: - start without network - start different kinds of network configs manually if necessary - have a senseful hostname/domainname setting at any time during the process? Thank you for your help, Matthieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED. OOPS! Console mode destroyed!
Paul Kimberley wrote: Have you tried 'reset' ? Is it just one terminal or all the tty's? Only the install terminal. Didn't know of 'reset'. SOLVED Thank you all! An email to a list and a cup of coffe with the rest of the staff makes my day ;) Jonas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u system faliure
Heh. I did the same thing...but then it smacked me in the face. He was in the early stages of a stage1 install and then was trying to *upgrade*...but there was nothing to upgrade at that point in time. :-) Some wise person (I think it was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle through Sherlock Holmes) said that when all probabilities have been exhausted, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. Have a great day! --Jason PS: Great name. ;-) On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 21:00, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Thursday 20 November 2003 23:58, Jason A. Pfeil wrote: Hold the phone a minute. I think that we are all looking past the problem. This problem occurred *during* installation. Installation was not finished, so there is no system to *upgrade*. The system was not installed yet...so I believe that the correct step would be to run emerge -p system followed by emerge system I think that will go to the root of the problem and fix it. :-) Now, I feel embarrassed. I never checked the original link that was given and assumed that he was at the point in the install guide where it says to emerge sync; emerge -u system. Never ASSUME because you make an ASS out of U and ME, right? ;-) Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Jason A. Pfeil[EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Open Systems Engineer http://www.10East.com 10East, Inc. (904)220-DOCS -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
yes ofcourse :D it was windows that should use it, but still, fat32 is only abit slower than reiserfs, not that much, i would prefer unix filesystems to be as secure as fat32 still :) On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 15:00, Patrick wrote: you mite also notice that they had to build it like that to survive all the reboots it had to endure other file systems we designed with performance not saftey in mind :) P - Original Message - From: Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gentoo Maillinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] XFS now we talk about filesystems, i have lost my respect to many filesystems, if the power fails while doing stuff on reiserfs and ext3 i loose files, that _NEVER_ happend to me with fat32, and it doesent even have a journal, and yet, i have fat32 for my stuff, and ext3 for my system, and if power goes, i might loose files on my ext3, but NEVER on my fat32 On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 14:28, Jens Mayer wrote: * On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:56:43 -0500, brett holcomb wrote: Use what you want. I run XFS on all my Gentoo boxes even though they are workstations essentially. I like the reliablity of it and the ease/speed with which it repairs. I can second that. If you ask people about their prefered filesystem, you will have some that praise XFS, some that choose Reiser, others that do ext3. Chances are high that you will also hear horrible stories about all of those filesystems, based on real users experiences. Personally, I'm running XFS on servers both in our university and at home and had no troubles so far, even after power outtakes. Another big plus of XFS is xfsdump/xfsrestore which makes backups much easier. ;) Regards, Jens -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] multiple network configs
i have another wish of network configuration, for my workstation though, i want an ipv6 network connection in /etc/init.d/net.sit0 but how do i do that? i need a tunnel broker that isnt freenet6, and i can get that, but how to set that up? any ideas? thanks On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 15:02, Matthieu Amiguet wrote: Sorry, I sent my last mail from the wrong address. Don't respond to it as it wil bounce... reply to this one instead. Matthieu --- Original mail --- Hello, I just installed gentoo on my new thinkpad x31 with no particular problem. It's my first gentoo installation and I'm quite enthusiastic about it, even if compiling openoffice almost discouraged me ;-) However, I've got a problem with network configuration: I would like my laptop to start with no network, and be able to start manually: - a static ethernet connection at work - a dhcp ethernet connection at home - possibly a dial-up modem connection sometimes. I tried to disable net.eth0 in the default level, but it tries to start anyway (I could not find what service depends upon it and starts it). If the machine is not connected to the network, my box hangs for a while after boot just before displaying the login prompt. Also, if I'm not connected to the network, gentoo fails to set up the domain name (/etc/init.d/domainname says it sets the dns and nis domains right, but the login prompts myname.nknown_domain, and dnsdomain returns none). This is a big problem because I'm using a program that refuses to start if the domain name is not set. So how can I: - start without network - start different kinds of network configs manually if necessary - have a senseful hostname/domainname setting at any time during the process? Thank you for your help, Matthieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
* On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 14:54:32 +0100, Redeeman wrote: now we talk about filesystems, i have lost my respect to many filesystems, if the power fails while doing stuff on reiserfs and ext3 i loose files, that _NEVER_ happend to me with fat32, and it doesent even have a journal [...] A journaling filesystem can't guarantee that all files can be recovered, it's main purpose is to guarantee that the filesystem itself is in a sane and consistent state. A journaling filesystem doesn't mean that you don't have to do any backups anymore. ;) After all, I can't remember having lost files after recovering with XFS. Regards, Jens -- Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months. -- Oscar Wilde -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?
I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks now (don't recollect the exact version). I did a sync two days ago, and tried again. Same thing, missing liblinc.so Tried --deep, revdep-rebuild, cleared package cache No luck. A big of investigation, and found liblinc.so is in the linc package. Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well. Is this just something that was missed? Or did my package tree somehow get messed up? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
Secure u mean resiliant :) P - Original Message - From: Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gentoo Maillinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] XFS yes ofcourse :D it was windows that should use it, but still, fat32 is only abit slower than reiserfs, not that much, i would prefer unix filesystems to be as secure as fat32 still :) On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 15:00, Patrick wrote: you mite also notice that they had to build it like that to survive all the reboots it had to endure other file systems we designed with performance not saftey in mind :) P - Original Message - From: Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gentoo Maillinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] XFS now we talk about filesystems, i have lost my respect to many filesystems, if the power fails while doing stuff on reiserfs and ext3 i loose files, that _NEVER_ happend to me with fat32, and it doesent even have a journal, and yet, i have fat32 for my stuff, and ext3 for my system, and if power goes, i might loose files on my ext3, but NEVER on my fat32 On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 14:28, Jens Mayer wrote: * On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 07:56:43 -0500, brett holcomb wrote: Use what you want. I run XFS on all my Gentoo boxes even though they are workstations essentially. I like the reliablity of it and the ease/speed with which it repairs. I can second that. If you ask people about their prefered filesystem, you will have some that praise XFS, some that choose Reiser, others that do ext3. Chances are high that you will also hear horrible stories about all of those filesystems, based on real users experiences. Personally, I'm running XFS on servers both in our university and at home and had no troubles so far, even after power outtakes. Another big plus of XFS is xfsdump/xfsrestore which makes backups much easier. ;) Regards, Jens -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Redeeman () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\- against microsoft attachments -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u system faliure
Well, I just love gentoo and am willing and able to help those who want to check it out. :-) I'm just glad that I could help you out. Have a great day, Jonas! --Jason On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 16:28, Jonas Widarsson wrote: Jason A. Pfeil wrote: I see the confusion, Jonas. You started from stage 1 but the directions you followed at this step were for installing from stage 2: quote from=http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap12; The stage2 tarball already has the bootstrapping done for you. All that you have to do is install the rest of the system: Note: If you are starting from a pre-built stage2 and want to ensure that your compiler toolchain is fully up-to-date, add the -u option to the commands below. If you don't know what this means, it's safe to skip this suggestion. /quote Well. It seems I put you just a little bit off track... sorry. I haven't reached step 12 yet, I just mentioned it. I got the errors from following on screen instructions echoed at the end of step 9. It said, You should update portage now. I googled for it and followed the instructions I found. which was emerge -u system After struggling with the errors for a while and bothering you fine guys with my trouble, I went on going for step 10, which was finished by the end of the day. I told you I was doing it *by the book*... Well, I have to confess I also read the on screen instructions, that weren't mentioned in the guide. The guide may be all correct, and the procedure may be just as it is told there, but I messed up after reading on screen messages. If what you say to me solves this issue, I really would suggest that otherwise wonderful guide was added a note, about the on screen recommendation that misled me. Or alternatively, the system could be changed to not show that message if the system can somehow know it won't work anyway... This only applies if you are starting from stage 2 which includes an entirely prebuilt gentoo build environment. At this stage, since stage 2 contains things prebuilt and thus could have older, buggy code in it, you are given the ability to update what it had already built. Since you are starting from a stage 1 build, the build environment is still uninstalled...so there is nothing to update. Reading the instructions a little more closely would have prevented this. :-) Maybe the install guide should make it a bit more plain by saying that the note is only for stage2 installs. Like I said, I had not yet reached that chapter and I actually have seen that this does not apply for stage1 installs. The update portage that you are seeing is nothing to worry about. You can do that *after* you build the system. The final portage that will be on your system isn't even built yet so there is no need to worry about the update to portage. The install step *really* should be followed as a recipe and doing everything exactly as it says. I understand clearly what you mean now, and will test it tomorrow (friday, sweden) to see how it works out. Good luck! :-) Big thanks :) You (probably) saved me, you know! Jonas END OF REPLY ** --Jason On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 10:47, Jonas Widarsson wrote: OOOh! Interresting. What you suggest is actually in the installation guide here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap12 But if what you are suggesting is the solution, it tells me there is a bug in the guide. Because when emerge sync is done, the system suggests I should update portage. I read this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/portage-user.xml ...which told me to do the emerge -u system. If it is not the preferred procedure to do that at that moment, there should be a red note in the guide saying don't do that right now. Put it in the end of this chapter, I think: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml#doc_chap9 The bootstrap process is not finished, so I can't really verify if things work yet. I'll be ba-ack. Jonas Jason A. Pfeil wrote: Hold the phone a minute. I think that we are all looking past the problem. This problem occurred *during* installation. Installation was not finished, so there is no system to *upgrade*. The system was not installed yet...so I believe that the correct step would be to run emerge -p system followed by emerge system I think that will go to the root of the problem and fix it. :-) Good Luck! --Jason On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 07:21, Jonas Widarsson wrote: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Jason A. Pfeil[EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Open Systems Engineer http://www.10East.com 10East, Inc. (904)220-DOCS -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
Redeeman wrote: now we talk about filesystems, i have lost my respect to many filesystems, if the power fails while doing stuff on reiserfs and ext3 i loose files, that _NEVER_ happend to me with fat32, and it doesent even have a journal, and yet, i have fat32 for my stuff, and ext3 for my system, and if power goes, i might loose files on my ext3, but NEVER on my fat32 Hah! I have ONLY lost files on FAT[16,32]. NTFS is rock solid. I use ReiserFS and XFS exclusively with Linux and I use UFS with softupdates on FreeBSD and never a lost file on any of them, even through considerable power failures. I don't use UPS equipment, but my server is not a high load machine either. Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
Patrick wrote: you mite also notice that they had to build it like that to survive all the reboots it had to endure other file systems we designed with performance not saftey in mind :) P Unless a user on this list can only claim a very small term experience with FAT[16,32], you can be pretty sure that the dreaded Lost Clusters became a problem at one time or another .. unless the filesystem was never maintained, at which point Windows was probably blamed and the OS was simply reinstalled after a reformat. Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
Patrick wrote: Secure u mean resiliant :) P I dare say it is neither. Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
Google is your friend. Many times just putting in the library your looking for gives you what you need to know. OK, ok, not very bad... :-) But I can imagine situation: I compile some program, which has no ebuild, and it depends on some library, which is in standard ebuild package, but I cannot find it, if its name is completely different from ebuild's name.This didn't happen to me yet (I'm using gentoo for a week :-)). What happened to me was, that I desperately searched for my favorite /sbin/ip for several hours. How can I know, that it's in iproute and not in iputils. I have to install it to realize! I think there should be some index - web page/application is sufficient - listing all files in packages compiled with maximum USE flags. Doesn't Gentoo have something like GRP? It could serve this purpose. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFS
With FATxx it's not a question of if it will corrupt but when! G. I've used FAT16 and 32 starting with DOS 2.x and it will die G. On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:49:25 -0600 Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick wrote: you mite also notice that they had to build it like that to survive all the reboots it had to endure other file systems we designed with performance not saftey in mind :) P Unless a user on this list can only claim a very small term experience with FAT[16,32], you can be pretty sure that the dreaded Lost Clusters became a problem at one time or another .. unless the filesystem was never maintained, at which point Windows was probably blamed and the OS was simply reinstalled after a reformat. Tom Veldhouse -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] modules-update
When I run a modules-update I get the error: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/drivers/char/drm/r128.o r128.o is also an error that pops up when I can't run KDE. How do I proceed? Thanks in advance. Colin Falkinburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it. Scott Granneman Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the former. Einstein _ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PostgreSQL 7.4
yeah, i see it there now in my portage tree, but for some reason it's not getting picked up when i do emerge -Up world. anyhints ? jeff. On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 03:09, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Jeff MacDonald wrote: Curious, when will pgsql 7.4 be making it into the portage tree. It is now. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo - How to install DeCSS?
Steve Withers wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 05:44, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Not to knock your choice of Linux dvd player, but what's wrong with ogle? Which is your favorite? My experience with DVD players is primarily on Red Hatand installing Ogle was more difficult than Xine. With Gentoo and Portageit probably doesn't matter Right? :-) Ah, I had that same *horrible* experience on RH *and* Slackware. It was even worse trying to install drip for ripping DVDs. It is coded with a specific version of avifile. Its still a PITA with portage because you end up with avifile jumping back and forth between version. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'
Jason Stubbs wrote: On Friday 21 November 2003 05:03, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: # emerge -p depclean *** WARNING *** : DEPCLEAN CAN SERIOUSLY IMPAIR YOUR SYSTEM. USE CAUTION. *** WARNING *** : (Cancel: CONTROL-C) -- ALWAYS VERIFY ALL PACKAGES IN THE *** WARNING *** : CANDIDATE LIST FOR SANITY BEFORE ALLOWING DEPCLEAN TO *** WARNING *** : UNMERGE ANY PACKAGES. *** WARNING *** : *** WARNING *** : USE FLAGS MAY HAVE AN EXTREME EFFECT ON THE OUTPUT. *** WARNING *** : SOME LIBRARIES MAY BE USED BY PACKAGES BUT ARE NOT *** WARNING *** : CONSIDERED TO BE A DEPEND DUE TO USE FLAG SETTINGS. *** WARNING *** : *** WARNING *** : Packages in the list that are desired may be added *** WARNING *** : directly to the world file to cause them to be ignored *** WARNING *** : by declean and maintained in the future. BREAKAGES DUE *** WARNING *** : TO UNMERGING AN IN-USE LIBRARIES MAY BE REPAIRED BY *** WARNING *** : MERGING *** THE PACKAGE THAT COMPLAINS *** ABOUT THE *** WARNING *** : MISSING LIBRARY. It will delete dependencies that are required by packages.. It says so right there.. And if that's not enough.. It may delete dependencies that are required by packages if the required packages were installed with different use flags to what is currently set. Yes, it's a bug. If you don't change your use flags, this command is perfectly safe. If you do change your use flags, there is an app called revdep-rebuild which will fix any packages that become broken. 'emerge depclean' is bad and evil and should not be used. Plain old 'depclean' (comes with gentoolkit) is a much better tool for this kind of thing. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: PostgreSQL 7.4
Is it still ~ masked? If you ACCEPT_KEYWODS=~x86 emerge -pU postgresql does it pick it up? -Original Message- From: Jeff MacDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah, i see it there now in my portage tree, but for some reason it's not getting picked up when i do emerge -Up world. anyhints ? jeff. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups
Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups? I've just only recently noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row. I would to be able to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would freeze. I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4. I'm just using cdrecord from the command line as well. I looked through /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't find anything. The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't ssh into it or anything. I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok again. This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups
Kurt Bechstein wrote: Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups? I've just only recently noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row. I would to be able to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would freeze. I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4. I'm just using cdrecord from the command line as well. I looked through /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't find anything. The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't ssh into it or anything. I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok again. This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop. Is it possible that its a heat issue? CD drives tend to generate a lot of heat, and that's not good in the confined space of a laptop. Can you check the temperatures in the BIOS when you restart it? When you switched back to 2.4, did you try burning 5 or so CDs to see if it would lock up again? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'
On Saturday 22 November 2003 00:19, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Jason Stubbs wrote: On Friday 21 November 2003 05:03, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: # emerge -p depclean *** WARNING *** : DEPCLEAN CAN SERIOUSLY IMPAIR YOUR SYSTEM. USE CAUTION. *** WARNING *** : (Cancel: CONTROL-C) -- ALWAYS VERIFY ALL PACKAGES IN THE *** WARNING *** : CANDIDATE LIST FOR SANITY BEFORE ALLOWING DEPCLEAN TO *** WARNING *** : UNMERGE ANY PACKAGES. *** WARNING *** : *** WARNING *** : USE FLAGS MAY HAVE AN EXTREME EFFECT ON THE OUTPUT. *** WARNING *** : SOME LIBRARIES MAY BE USED BY PACKAGES BUT ARE NOT *** WARNING *** : CONSIDERED TO BE A DEPEND DUE TO USE FLAG SETTINGS. *** WARNING *** : *** WARNING *** : Packages in the list that are desired may be added *** WARNING *** : directly to the world file to cause them to be ignored *** WARNING *** : by declean and maintained in the future. BREAKAGES DUE *** WARNING *** : TO UNMERGING AN IN-USE LIBRARIES MAY BE REPAIRED BY *** WARNING *** : MERGING *** THE PACKAGE THAT COMPLAINS *** ABOUT THE *** WARNING *** : MISSING LIBRARY. It will delete dependencies that are required by packages.. It says so right there.. And if that's not enough.. It may delete dependencies that are required by packages if the required packages were installed with different use flags to what is currently set. Yes, it's a bug. If you don't change your use flags, this command is perfectly safe. If you do change your use flags, there is an app called revdep-rebuild which will fix any packages that become broken. 'emerge depclean' is bad and evil and should not be used. Plain old 'depclean' (comes with gentoolkit) is a much better tool for this kind of thing. Hmmm... haven't used that. I take it that it takes the use flags that a package was built with into account rather than using the current ones? (There sitting right there in /var/db/grp/pkg/USE). Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups
Kurt Bechstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups? I've just only recently noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row. I would to be able to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would freeze. I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4. I'm just using [...] Does it lockup when you burn without SCSI emulation? Matt -- Matthew Kennedy Gentoo Linux Developer Bugs go to http://bugs.gentoo.org! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'
Jason Stubbs wrote: On Saturday 22 November 2003 00:19, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Jason Stubbs wrote: On Friday 21 November 2003 05:03, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: # emerge -p depclean *** WARNING *** : DEPCLEAN CAN SERIOUSLY IMPAIR YOUR SYSTEM. USE CAUTION. *** WARNING *** : (Cancel: CONTROL-C) -- ALWAYS VERIFY ALL PACKAGES IN THE *** WARNING *** : CANDIDATE LIST FOR SANITY BEFORE ALLOWING DEPCLEAN TO *** WARNING *** : UNMERGE ANY PACKAGES. *** WARNING *** : *** WARNING *** : USE FLAGS MAY HAVE AN EXTREME EFFECT ON THE OUTPUT. *** WARNING *** : SOME LIBRARIES MAY BE USED BY PACKAGES BUT ARE NOT *** WARNING *** : CONSIDERED TO BE A DEPEND DUE TO USE FLAG SETTINGS. *** WARNING *** : *** WARNING *** : Packages in the list that are desired may be added *** WARNING *** : directly to the world file to cause them to be ignored *** WARNING *** : by declean and maintained in the future. BREAKAGES DUE *** WARNING *** : TO UNMERGING AN IN-USE LIBRARIES MAY BE REPAIRED BY *** WARNING *** : MERGING *** THE PACKAGE THAT COMPLAINS *** ABOUT THE *** WARNING *** : MISSING LIBRARY. It will delete dependencies that are required by packages.. It says so right there.. And if that's not enough.. It may delete dependencies that are required by packages if the required packages were installed with different use flags to what is currently set. Yes, it's a bug. If you don't change your use flags, this command is perfectly safe. If you do change your use flags, there is an app called revdep-rebuild which will fix any packages that become broken. 'emerge depclean' is bad and evil and should not be used. Plain old 'depclean' (comes with gentoolkit) is a much better tool for this kind of thing. Hmmm... haven't used that. I take it that it takes the use flags that a package was built with into account rather than using the current ones? (There sitting right there in /var/db/grp/pkg/USE). Yes. I'm still paranoid and use qpkg to verify what it says, but it is almost always correct. Besides, it just gives you a list. It does not unmerge them itself. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] File transfer with SSH
Hi MAL, Your advice works seamlessly. I am interested to learn how to create a front-end ICON (GUI) on desktop with dropdown list for selecting options executing those commands discussed previously. (On Windows Flash can do the job) Not starting on KDE desktop - right click - Create New - Link to Application - etc. Nor starting from KStart - right click - Menu Editor - etc. I can create executable icons with the abovementioned 2 routes to execute those commands separately. Any advice or pointer would be appreciated. Thanks B.R. Stephen MAL wrote: Stephen Liu wrote: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /path/to/folder ; tar zc . | tar zxx It works, zx only. What is the function of space and . after tar zc? Yes, sorry.. zx is correct, not zxx. Blame the coffee :) When compressing, if tar isn't compressing stdin, it needs to be told what to compress. '.' specifies the current directory (on the remote host), which we have just changed to with cd. If I expect to untar the tarball to a selected folder, instead of changing to the folder first to issue the command, can following command do the job $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /path/to/folder(MachineB) ; tar zc . | cd /path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx I'm not sure it will, because 'cd' will then get stdin piped to it, and not to tar. I'll test... ok, the problem with your command is that bash does not see as a command, and so won't execute: cd /path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx Instead, you must run those commands in a subshell, like this: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd /path/to/folder(MachineB) ; tar zc . | ( cd /path/to/folder(MachineA) ; tar zx ) ie. brackets instead of double quotes. That worked for me :) MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: PostgreSQL 7.4
yup, that found it, thanks. On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 11:26, Ric Messier wrote: Is it still ~ masked? If you ACCEPT_KEYWODS=~x86 emerge -pU postgresql does it pick it up? -Original Message- From: Jeff MacDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah, i see it there now in my portage tree, but for some reason it's not getting picked up when i do emerge -Up world. anyhints ? jeff. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xdm .xinitrc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In general, the XDM - .xsession is a mess. Check out this bug report for more info. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32237 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/vjmB0cAvx3ELfKARAiRnAJ0VUzqfbm4Zua+yhjtLm4v5/1MWMwCglH4p MRF6hLh++7PRy6uBFZB/xo8= =Bi1C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] File transfer with SSH
Stephen Liu wrote: Hi MAL, Your advice works seamlessly. I am interested to learn how to create a front-end ICON (GUI) on desktop with dropdown list for selecting options executing those commands discussed previously. (On Windows Flash can do the job) Not starting on KDE desktop - right click - Create New - Link to Application - etc. Nor starting from KStart - right click - Menu Editor - etc. I can create executable icons with the abovementioned 2 routes to execute those commands separately. Any advice or pointer would be appreciated. I don't have much experience with KDE, so I can't help you directly. Simply creating a shortcut to a bash script with the ssh commands in would work, though you would need to run them via xterm in order to be able to type passwords in. If you'd like to avoid passwords, look into SSH public key authentication. MAL -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OpenOffice 1.1 font bug?
Hi all, After upgrading to OpenOffice 1.1, the fonts in OO calc's font menu is different from the other programs (writer, impress ...) All the modules seem to follow the logic described in their font guide (http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/fontguide.html). For Gentoo, fonts from: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 output from /usr/sbin/chkfontpath (not installed) fontpath returned by XGetFontPath() (??) /opt/OpenOffice/share/fonts/truetype user fonts installed with spadmin As far as I can see, this seems to be correct. For calc, all fonts available to the X server are available. I have a system with a lot of fonts (over 500), and things become quite confusing this way. Further, when I try to select a font in calc, the entire desktop hangs for about 2-3 minutes, very annoying. When I kill the X server using CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, X refuses to restart, have to reboot Linux. I am using xfs, but direct fontpath configuration in /etc/X11/XF86config does not seem to change anything. Anyone a clue? THX -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups
I'm beginning to think this is heat related as well. It got a little farther in 2.4 but then it locked up again under 2.4 just spewing out a bunch of scsi errors in the log files and wouldn't even eject the cd no matter what I tried. On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 10:34, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Kurt Bechstein wrote: Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups? I've just only recently noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row. I would to be able to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would freeze. I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4. I'm just using cdrecord from the command line as well. I looked through /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't find anything. The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't ssh into it or anything. I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok again. This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop. Is it possible that its a heat issue? CD drives tend to generate a lot of heat, and that's not good in the confined space of a laptop. Can you check the temperatures in the BIOS when you restart it? When you switched back to 2.4, did you try burning 5 or so CDs to see if it would lock up again? -- Kurt Bechstein | Unique Systems, Inc. System Administrator | 6920 Spring Valley Drive, #106 Phone: (419) 861-3331 | Holland, OH 43528 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.uniqsys.com Prepared with Ximian Evolution -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What messed with my make.conf?
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 13:40, Steve Withers wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 18:28, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Thursday 20 November 2003 08:35 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Withers wrote: I've been steadily adding value to my USE= list..and was surprised today to find that it now has only dvd gtk2...and all the rest are gone. perhaps it was cleaned up by etc-update after an emerge of protage or base-layout (included in system) I wish I had a backup of my make.conf.. yes, that is a good idea Martin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Steve, The same sort of thing has happened to me and many others at one time or another. Most of us have learned what files no to update blindly after an emerge -u world. Many have developed backup strategies as well. I have 2 backup plans in effect for my main box and certain files on the web server. The server, of course has a backup of the site and db's on another box plus cd backups are done as changes are made. My main production box has a directory in my home dir called /etc_backup. There, are copies of all configs that would really hurt if lost. As well, I run a cron job that runs a nightly scrip that does an rsync backup of all important files. Redundant? Yes, probably. Crazy? nope I have 4 copies of make.conf. Please don't take this wrong. I don't want to come off like I'm scolding you. I speak from experience I blew off XF86Config, make.conf and fstab in one fell swoop last February. Now that would take 5 minutes to fix, then it was all day. You can't scold me. I had no way of knowing that key config files would be messed with without my knowledge. I haven't used a version of Linux between 1994 and now that would do that. It wasn't without your knowledge, I have *never* had make.conf modified by an package w/o running etc-update. Even in etc-update it lists the files that need to be updated. -- Matthew Baxa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applications Services Assistant K-State University Office of Mediated Education http://www.dce.ksu.edu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] How to emerge nvidia 1.0-4363 driver ?
I have the nvidia 1.0-4496 driver emerged and working with Gentoo. But would like to use the 4363 driver instead. (It is more compatible with Mythtv) Is there anyway to emerge it ? And if so how do i keep emerge -u world from wanting to upgrade it to 4496. Harley Peters -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rebuild all
John Ross Hunt wrote: Is there an emerge option for rebuilding the whole box (assuming all emerged source tarballs still present) ? Try this, it works better than emerge -e because it rebuilds the currently installed packages only (no upgrades or downgrades). qpkg -I -nc -v | sed s:^:\\\=: | xargs emerge -p And again a completely different solution :)... this one looks pretty simple, i've sent the output to less instead of xargs emerge and it looked just like what i want. Thank you.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Shrinking my TightVNC session
G'day list, Quick question: my Gentoo PC runs at 1280x1024, but the XP laptop I VNC into it from only goes up to 1024x768. How can I change this so the new resolution runs at the smaller resolution? Thanks again, Doug Gorley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions on SSH config files and protocol
Stephen Liu wrote: Hi folks, I have following questions 1) There are 2 config files /etc/ssh/ssh_config /etc/ssh/sshd_config ssh_config is for the ssh client, used when you connect to anywhere, where you can e.g. decide about your prefered encryption cipher, e.g. Cipher = blowfish. sshd_config sets up the ssh deamon, which is the one waiting for someone connecting on your box. Here you might specify who is allowed to connect, which ciphers are allowed for connections, and other security-related issues. You may find some more words about SSH in the gentoo security guide at gentoo.org. 2) Protocol 2,1 What are SSH2 and SSH1 and their function. Use 'Protocol 2' only, unless you really need the older protocol 1. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Shrinking my TightVNC session
vncserver -geometry?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 9:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Shrinking my TightVNC session G'day list, Quick question: my Gentoo PC runs at 1280x1024, but the XP laptop I VNC into it from only goes up to 1024x768. How can I change this so the new resolution runs at the smaller resolution? Thanks again, Doug Gorley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
Martin Horak wrote: OK, ok, not very bad... :-) But I can imagine situation: I compile some program, which has no ebuild, and it depends on some library, which is in standard ebuild package, but I cannot find it, if its name is completely different from ebuild's name. Yeah, this is in general the only problem i see when using gentoo: installing software which hasn't been added to the gentoo package database yet. Fortunately, the gentoo database is already pretty large and it continuously grows and grows.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500 Brenden Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks now (don't recollect the exact version). I did a sync two days ago, and tried again. Same thing, missing liblinc.so Tried --deep, revdep-rebuild, cleared package cache No luck. A big of investigation, and found liblinc.so is in the linc package. Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well. Is this just something that was missed? Or did my package tree somehow get messed up? check bugzilla and if not found open a bug. Thee should be no mystery dependancies for an ebuild. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to emerge nvidia 1.0-4363 driver ?
You can merge it by giving emerge that path and name of that ebuild. Then you can modify /etc/package.mask (or create it) and tell it =that version. On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:12:44 -0600 Harley Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the nvidia 1.0-4496 driver emerged and working with Gentoo. But would like to use the 4363 driver instead. (It is more compatible with Mythtv) Is there anyway to emerge it ? And if so how do i keep emerge -u world from wanting to upgrade it to 4496. Harley Peters -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:30:17 -0500 Kurt Bechstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups? Never. I've just only recently noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row. I would to be able to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would freeze. No idea, I don't burn that many CDs. I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4. I'm just using cdrecord from the command line as well. I use the ATAPI support (not SCSI emulation, i.e 'cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 ...' I looked through /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't find anything. The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't ssh into it or anything. I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok again. This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop. As others posted, this is likely to ve an overheating and/or memory problem. Check temperatures and maybe run memtest86. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?
-Original Message- From: Collins Richey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:13:09 -0500 Brenden Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip package. Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well. Is this just something that was missed? Or did my package tree somehow get messed up? check bugzilla and if not found open a bug. Thee should be no mystery dependancies for an ebuild. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. I have a feeling that some other commonly installed package must be installing linc for other users.. Haven't heard a peep about this from anyone else, which led me to believe it might be my problem ;-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] logging in remotely on CUPS
Hi all, I've installed on my server, but the CUPSD-server won't allow me to log in from my local network. I've searched te forums and the net but didn't found a solution. Does anybody has a solution for this? Thanks in advance, Peter Dijkstra (Douwedabbert) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 lockups
Yes, I believe it was simply heat related. I don't usually burn that many cds myself either but I was helping a friend get ready for a expo in Los Angeles this weekend so we had to burn a lot of cds. I was able to point a big fan at it and it burned like a champ. On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 13:34, Collins Richey wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:30:17 -0500 Kurt Bechstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else had any problems with 2.6 lockups? Never. I've just only recently noticed when trying to burn a lot of cds in a row. I would to be able to burn 4 or 5 without issue and then all of the sudden my laptop would freeze. No idea, I don't burn that many CDs. I'm using scsi emulation with 2.6.0-test9-mm4. I'm just using cdrecord from the command line as well. I use the ATAPI support (not SCSI emulation, i.e 'cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 ...' I looked through /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages, and /var/log/kern.log and couldn't find anything. The system just hard locks, no mouse, no keyboard, can't ssh into it or anything. I have since booted back into the 2.4 kernel and all seems to be ok again. This is on an HP Pavillion ze4125 laptop. As others posted, this is likely to ve an overheating and/or memory problem. Check temperatures and maybe run memtest86. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] slow terminal
This is kind of a weird issue. If I start my laptop without it being plugged into a network it seems to work just fine. However, if I boot it up with it plugged into the network and then take down the network interface down my xterms become very sluggish for some reason. If I then bring the network interface back up terminals run fine. As I said if the laptop is never plugged into the network it never exhibits this problem. Other applications seems to run ok, it just seems to be terminals. Anyone else ever experienced this one. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] logging in remotely on CUPS
Check in /etc/cups/cups??.conf. If I remember there are some settings that determine who can admin or access cups. On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:23:42 +0100 Peter Dijkstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've installed on my server, but the CUPSD-server won't allow me to log in from my local network. I've searched te forums and the net but didn't found a solution. Does anybody has a solution for this? Thanks in advance, Peter Dijkstra (Douwedabbert) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?
Hi, Are u in the x86 stable or unstable stream? Cos I had been using evolution for a long time and then began to upgrade my Gnome to 2.4...I took the chance to upgrade a whole load of other critical packages on my system as well and because I staggered the whole emerge world upgrade there was a period which evolution didn;t work at all and my whole Gnome was stuck in limbo with some 2.2 and 2.4 libraries (I had autoclean off...but that;s another story) but all was good once I cleaned out all the 2.2 stuff Simon On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Brenden Walker wrote: I've been unable to emerge evolution for a couple of weeks now (don't recollect the exact version). I did a sync two days ago, and tried again. Same thing, missing liblinc.so Tried --deep, revdep-rebuild, cleared package cache No luck. A big of investigation, and found liblinc.so is in the linc package. Emerged that this morning and all appears to be well. Is this just something that was missed? Or did my package tree somehow get messed up? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing from OpenOffice with Cups
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 07:30, Keith Dart wrote: Run: /opt/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/spadmin I knew that was the old way, but is it still valid? I'm runnig Ximian-OO1.1 from BMG and spadmin isn't even available, it just works with cups right out of the ebuild. Has Ximian done something good for printing with their OO. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?
-Original Message- From: Simon Mushi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Are u in the x86 stable or unstable stream? Cos I had been using evolution for a long time and then began to upgrade my Gnome to 2.4...I took the chance to upgrade a whole load of other critical packages on my system as well and because I staggered the whole emerge world upgrade there was a period which evolution didn;t work at all and my whole Gnome was stuck in limbo with some 2.2 and 2.4 libraries (I had autoclean off...but that;s another story) but all was good once I cleaned out all the 2.2 stuff Stable only, and I run KDE so I've only got necessary parts of Gnome installed.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap
Hi, I've recently had a rash of problems at work with my Outlook mail files growing too large and then getting corrupted. Some Googling around says that this is probably caused by them being larger than about 300MB. Mine's about a gig. I wanted to install some form of imap and look into moving my mail storage there as a precursor to totally dropping Windows at work sometime after the start of the year. I think my first step would be to get something like this installed, working, and then make sure I can get it backed up as well. Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about whether courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me? Any reason I should choose one over the other? The description for courier-imap says it was designed for maildirs. Whatever I choose would probably need to support both Evolution and Outlook users at the same time. Thanks in advance for your thoughts. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap
Hi, I've recently had a rash of problems at work with my Outlook mail files growing too large and then getting corrupted. Some Googling around says that this is probably caused by them being larger than about 300MB. Mine's about a gig. Hmm, one of mine just grew over 300m.. I really hate Microsoft and their programmers I wanted to install some form of imap and look into moving my mail storage there as a precursor to totally dropping Windows at work sometime after the start of the year. I think my first step would be to get something like this installed, working, and then make sure I can get it backed up as well. Man I wish I could do that. Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about whether courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me? Courier seems to be better.. Faster.. I have used both.. cyrus uses the mbox format and your back to using huge files again and the problems that go with it. My problem with maildir, is that pine doesn't work with it well. My inbox is fine, but it reverts back to mbox for the folders. I can't figure out if its something I did, or a pine problem.. Any reason I should choose one over the other? The description for courier-imap says it was designed for maildirs. Whatever I choose would probably need to support both Evolution and Outlook users at the same time. It doesn't matter, imap is imap as far as the mail reader is concerned.. Its a choice of Maildir to mbox really as far as the server. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
