RE: [gentoo-user] make.conf ambiguity - i486 or i686

[Jason Stubbs]

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From: Mike Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 7:38 AM

On Friday 05 December 2003 22:23, Jason Newquist wrote:
> I am in the middle of re-attempting an installation after my first two

> attempts froze.  I have just completed an "emerge sync", and I'm 
> giving the /etc/make.conf file a once-over before I go.
>
> Question.  Apologies if this is a FAQ.  Google doesn't provide a clear

> answer...
>
> In the CHOST section at the top, my default value (before entering 
> stage 1) is "i486-pc-linux-gnu".  In reading the comments, it says to 
> leave this alone for a "Pentium Pro or higher processor."  My P4 is 
> indeed >= PPro.  However, then it says that any "modern" machine 
> should use i686.
>
> Later on, in CFLAGS, the file has an "-mCPU=i686" declaration.
>
> So which is it?  Should I leave it at i486 and proceed with stage1, or

> change it to i686?  Should I leave it alone for stage1, then go back 
> and change it for stage2?

Set them properly first.
My P4 uses:
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-Os -march=pentium3 -pipe" # does pentium4 work right yet?
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

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-march=pentium4 should work fine now with both arch and ~arch versions
of gcc.

Jason


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RE: [gentoo-user] vncserver + gnome setup problem

[John Ross Hunt]

> On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:09, Shane Bouslough wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I'm using a GRP 1.4 install,  and I did an emerge of  tightvnc.
> > 
> > When I start a vncserver session and then connect remotely via a
> > vnc client, I always get the typical X gray background as if twm
> > was started.
> > 
> > My ~/.vnc/xstartup file just contains
> > 
> >#!/bin/sh
> >exec /usr/bin/gnome-session &
> > 
> > I've read several of the Gentoo tutorials on setting up 
> > vnc, but most replies seem to show many people still have
> > this same issue.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> there is a xsetroot line too, that one sets the bg
> > -Shane

Here's my ~/.vnc/xstartup file:

---
#!/bin/bash --login
  
if [ -f "$HOME/.Xresources" ]; then
  /usr/X11R6/bin/xrdb -display $DISPLAY -load "$HOME/.Xresources"
fi
/usr/X11R6/bin/xhost +LOCAL:
/usr/bin/gnome-session -display $DISPLAY 2>.xsession-errors &
---

Good luck,

-jrh


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Re: [gentoo-user] make.conf ambiguity - i486 or i686

[Mike Williams]

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On Friday 05 December 2003 22:23, Jason Newquist wrote:
> I am in the middle of re-attempting an installation after my first
> two attempts froze.  I have just completed an "emerge sync", and I'm
> giving the /etc/make.conf file a once-over before I go.
>
> Question.  Apologies if this is a FAQ.  Google doesn't provide a
> clear answer...
>
> In the CHOST section at the top, my default value (before entering
> stage 1) is "i486-pc-linux-gnu".  In reading the comments, it says
> to leave this alone for a "Pentium Pro or higher processor."  My P4
> is indeed >= PPro.  However, then it says that any "modern" machine
> should use i686.
>
> Later on, in CFLAGS, the file has an "-mCPU=i686" declaration.
>
> So which is it?  Should I leave it at i486 and proceed with stage1,
> or change it to i686?  Should I leave it alone for stage1, then go
> back and change it for stage2?

Set them properly first.
My P4 uses:
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-Os -march=pentium3 -pipe" # does pentium4 work right yet?
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

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[gentoo-user] ext3 problem in 2.6.0test10&11 kernels

[Simon Mushi]

Hey people,

So I finally managed to compile and boot up my 2.6.0-test11-r1
gentoo-sources...set up nvidia drivers and my 2 sound cards and it all ran
fine for about 20 minutes when for some reason I realised that my ext3
based root partition was now read-only...kinda strange I had an emerge
process that crashed on some crazy error and I could not create a new
directory. This happened time and time again, I would be fine for about 20
minutes before the kernel raised a "ext3-fs error in start_transaction:
Journal has aborted" and all my file systems became read-only and I had to
reboot.

Funny thing is when I boot into my old 2.4.20-r5 kernel...it is as if
nothing at all happened...my system runs fine...I took the pains to try
out 2.6.0.10-test10-mm sources and same thing happened.

Does anyone have idea as to what I can do? Is 2.6 for me?

Best

Simon
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel compile error (2.6.0-test11-r1)

[collins]

On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 13:02, Mike Williams wrote:
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> On Friday 05 December 2003 17:25, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > On Friday 05 Dec 2003 11:03, Simon Mushi wrote:
> > > Thanks a lot for the tip...it worked, and the recompile was so much
> > > faster. I really like this new time saving feature as make clean is
> > > now unneccessary.
> >
> > You can still do `make clean`.  It's `make dep` that's unnecessary with
> > the 2.6 kernels.
> 
> 'make clean' is also unnecessary, or more correctly, isn't necessary.
> It's pretty much always been like this, as the Makefile/make should be 
> intelligent enough to not recompile things that don't need to be recompiled.
> For a few minutes extra CPU work I always 'make clean' first. Saves any, 
> admitedly unlikely, hassle later.
> 

No "hassles" encountered in the past two years (2.4 and 2.6), so I
"never" use clean, except in those rare instances where a compile has
failed and you are doing something special in a particular subdirectory.
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Re: [gentoo-user] can gentoo run WM depending in the Kernel ?

[Mike Williams]

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On Friday 05 December 2003 23:25, SMS WebMaster wrote:
> Hi
>
> Can gentoo run WM depending in the Kernel ?
>
> for example when I run the kernel "gentoo-standard" I want gentoo to run
>gnome as my window manager
>
> BUT if I run "gentoo-lowbattry" I want gentoo to run XFCE
>
> can I do that ? (don't tell me to have two accounts ;) )

It should be trivial to check what kernel is running to decide what WM to use.
How do you start X, and your WM?
startx runs .xinitrc as a shell script IIRC, and {k,g,x]dm run sessions from 
/etc/X11/Sessions

sauron root # uname -r
2.4.22-ck2
sauron root # uname=`uname -r`
sauron root # if [ "`echo $uname | egrep ck2$`" != "" ]
> then
> echo "kernel ck2, running gnome"
> elif [ "`echo $uname | egrep lowbattery$`" != "" ]
> then
> echo "kernel lowbattery, running xfce"
> fi
sauron root # uname=2.4.22-lowbattery
sauron root # if [ "`echo $uname | egrep ck2$`" != "" ]; then echo "kernel ck2, 
running gnome"; elif [ "`echo $uname | egrep lowbattery$`" != "" ]; then  echo "kernel 
lowbattery, running xfce"; fi
kernel lowbattery, running xfce


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Re: [gentoo-user] mapping hostname to a non routable ip addy

[Rumen Yotov]

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 00:12:44 +0100
mathieu perrenoud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Friday 05 December 2003 23:46, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> > On Dec 5, 2003, at 5:39 PM, Marius Mauch wrote:
> > > On 12/05/03  Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> > >> OK, here is the scenario.  Gentoo router has one routable ip and the
> > >> internal network is nat'ed.  The routable ip has a domain that
> > >> resolves to it, lets call it foobar.com.  Internally (non-routable
> > >> ips), there are hosts (FQDN=host1.foobar.com,host2.foobar.com). Is
> > >> there anyway (perhaps iptables, but probably some other software) to
> > >> automatically forward all traffic to the appropriate host from the
> > >> outside?  I know this has to be done at the packet level, but there
> > >> are some hardware solutions for this, so I thought their might be
> > >> something else out there...
> > >
> > > You can redirect traffic based on ports or IPs, but not on hostnames as
> > > that information is not contained in the IP header, only in some higher
> > > level protocols like HTTP.
> >
> > Yes, I'm aware of this.  That is what I am wondering, if there is any
> > program that actually checks the packets and forwards appropriate
> > traffic...
> 
> I think it has to be done on a per-protocol basis. For HTTP I would go for 
> apache on the router and check the proxy and reverse_proxy directives.
> 
> I don't think it's possible to do this at a more general level. And it's only 
> possible to do this for protocols which encapsulate hostnames like http or 
> ftp. You'll never be able to have your router forward "nc spam.foo.bar 1234" 
> to port 1234 of box spam.foo.bar.
> 
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Hi,

I sugest looking in www.shorewall.net for PROXY-ARP feature.
May be that could help.
Bye.
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Re: [gentoo-user] mapping hostname to a non routable ip addy

[Nathaniel McCallum]

On Dec 5, 2003, at 11:19 PM, Jeff Smelser wrote:

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On Friday 05 December 2003 10:15 pm, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
What about for ssh?  Any way to do it for that?  Or will it consider
that a "man in the middle" attack?
You can forward any port you want. Just a matter of a couple commands. 
When
you get a firewall set up, let us know what your using. Most 
firewalls. I use
gShield, they have a config file for forwarding ports. Take just a 
minute for
the config change, then rerun the script.
I know about port forwarding.  I don't want to forward a different 
port.  I want to redirect data based upon packet destination rather 
than port.  I'm really just trying to get free IP addys ;).

Nathaniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] mapping hostname to a non routable ip addy

[Jeff Smelser]

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On Friday 05 December 2003 10:15 pm, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> What about for ssh?  Any way to do it for that?  Or will it consider
> that a "man in the middle" attack?

You can forward any port you want. Just a matter of a couple commands. When 
you get a firewall set up, let us know what your using. Most firewalls. I use 
gShield, they have a config file for forwarding ports. Take just a minute for 
the config change, then rerun the script.
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Re: [gentoo-user] mapping hostname to a non routable ip addy

[Nathaniel McCallum]

On Dec 5, 2003, at 6:12 PM, mathieu perrenoud wrote:

On Friday 05 December 2003 23:46, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
On Dec 5, 2003, at 5:39 PM, Marius Mauch wrote:
On 12/05/03  Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
OK, here is the scenario.  Gentoo router has one routable ip and the
internal network is nat'ed.  The routable ip has a domain that
resolves to it, lets call it foobar.com.  Internally (non-routable
ips), there are hosts (FQDN=host1.foobar.com,host2.foobar.com). Is
there anyway (perhaps iptables, but probably some other software) to
automatically forward all traffic to the appropriate host from the
outside?  I know this has to be done at the packet level, but there
are some hardware solutions for this, so I thought their might be
something else out there...
You can redirect traffic based on ports or IPs, but not on hostnames 
as
that information is not contained in the IP header, only in some 
higher
level protocols like HTTP.
Yes, I'm aware of this.  That is what I am wondering, if there is any
program that actually checks the packets and forwards appropriate
traffic...
I think it has to be done on a per-protocol basis. For HTTP I would go 
for
apache on the router and check the proxy and reverse_proxy directives.

I don't think it's possible to do this at a more general level. And 
it's only
possible to do this for protocols which encapsulate hostnames like 
http or
ftp. You'll never be able to have your router forward "nc spam.foo.bar 
1234"
to port 1234 of box spam.foo.bar.
What about for ssh?  Any way to do it for that?  Or will it consider 
that a "man in the middle" attack?

Nathaniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia nForce 2 and Gentoo

[Ernie Schroder]

On Friday 05 December 2003 03:22 pm, Paul Grenyer wrote:
> Hi
>
> > I went through this when I got my new MB as well :)
>
> Nice to know I'm not alone. :-)
>
> > Try passing pci=noacpi to the kernel on boot.  Do a search on
> > forums.gentoo.org for 'a7n8x' which also has the nforce2 chipset
> > and caused a bunch of problems.  Hopefully the stock
> > gentoo-sources kernel will update to 2.4.22+ which has support
> > for that chipset.
>
> Will do! Thank you very much!
>
> Regards
> Paul
>
> Paul Grenyer
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> Web: http://www.paulgrenyer.co.uk
>
> Please note my change of email address!
>
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I'm just getting around to checking email (had 450 posts to gentoo to 
sift through) and saw this thread. I don't know if this is still 
valid, but with 1.4-r3 I had to boot with the gentoo -nonet option. 
It seemed wierd as the live CD found the onboard nic just fine. HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Way OT: Doesn't IP need TCP or UDP for transport?

[Joshua Banks]

--- "Erik S. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ICMP - This is a protocol with many of the properties of a layer 4
> protocol, 
> but as it is an integral part of IP it is implemented as a layer 3.
> ICMP used 
> the standard IP header, and includes an additional type field (e.g.
> "echo 
> request" and "echo reply" used for ping) + data relevant to the icmp
> type. 
> ICMP is sort of a helper protocol, with which machines with an IP can
> 
> transmit information in between each other in order to notify of
> events or 
> request changes in the way IP is treated.

This helps my understanding allot better and also clarifies that ICMP
is a layer 3 protocol not layer 4. Your statements also back what
others have said so far. Thanks. I'm studying for a Cisco exam and I
want to make sure that I understand every area covered within the exam.
This is just one of those grey area's for me.

> A typical traceroute happens as follows:
> 
> A wants to traceroute E. In between them you have B, C and D.
> 
> A sends a UDP (yes UDP is what default traceroutes use) packet to E,
> with a 
> TTL (Time To Live) value of 1. B receives this packet, and sees that
> it has 
> travelled TTL machine-machine hops. It then drops the packet as the
> TTL is 
> exceeded, and sends an icmp ttl-exceeded back to A, including a
> specification 
> of which packet it dropped. A now resends the UDP packet, this time
> with a 
> TTL of 2. The packet travels to C this time, and again a ttl-exceeded
> icmp is 
> sent back. This continues until the UDP packet actually reaches E.
> While this 
> happens, the traceroute application shows the IPs of the machines it
> receives 
> ttl-exceeded ICMPs from, and you'll get a nice map of how traffic
> *from A to 
> E* travels. You still can't know how traffic from E to A travels, as
> that can 
> be a totally different path (async routing), although in many cases
> it is the 
> same.

This also clears up some confusion as well. I understand how ping and
traceroute work as you described for the most part. My confusion was in
the fact that I remember seeing (maybe Win95 or 98) using tcp when
either ping'ing or tracert'ing. This isn't true of Win2k or XP. Don't
have Win98 or 95 to test with though.

As well, when I further researched ping on linux via Ethereal I noticed
that it infact uses Plain vanillia ICMP, but when "traceroute"'ing it
uses UDP unless otherwise told by using the "-I" option. "man
traceroute" gave me all the info that I needed.

So, all in all, thanks for your input and everyone elses. 

Just to clarify:
So when I'm using ipsec/vpn ESP/IP=50 between two endpoints all the
data that is sent after authenticating (IKE UDP 500) and bringing up
the vpn tunnel is encapsulated/encrypted in IP 50 packets and its upto
the vpn gateways to implement a solution for "IP 50" packets that get
lost or corrupted in transit? Where, (not using ipsec as an example) if
you were using TCP, it would tell you to resend if the packet wasn't
received or corrupted in transit.

Just trying to get a better understanding of how error handling would
be handled when strictly using IP type protocols for data transmission.
I would assume that this is like UDP or TCP in that it is up to the
application or transmitting host (or both) to know or have programmed
knowledge of how to correct errors that happen in transit??

I guess the other thing that I'm trying to understand is what are the
benifits of using a IP protocol that doesn't use udp or tcp when
transmitting data acrossed the internet? 

Less overhead because its connectionless with best effort delivery like
UDP but don't seem to be "port/socket" specific but "raw protocol
specific". Kind of a grey area still. But I feel that I'm getting a
better understanding now.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation hangs continue!

[Jeff Smelser]

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On Friday 05 December 2003 09:11 pm, Jason Newquist wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Jeff Smelser wrote:
> > Define frozen for me.. You talking about lights on the keyboard don't
> > change, can't do alt-f2,f3 and get to another terminal type freeze. Or,
> > you can move around but the code just sits there for some reason.
>
> - Typing things does not put characters in the terminal window.
> - Alt-f2,f3 do nothing.
> - Keyboard lights do not change.

You could also do a stage3 type install.. That, at least, will get you going.. 
Then maybe you can do some tests, post install and figure it out.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation hangs continue!

[Jeff Smelser]

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On Friday 05 December 2003 09:11 pm, Jason Newquist wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Jeff Smelser wrote:
> > Define frozen for me.. You talking about lights on the keyboard don't
> > change, can't do alt-f2,f3 and get to another terminal type freeze. Or,
> > you can move around but the code just sits there for some reason.
>
> - Typing things does not put characters in the terminal window.
> - Alt-f2,f3 do nothing.
> - Keyboard lights do not change.

I would run memtst86.. You might have a hardware issue..

You running a binary installation really doesn't matter. Compiling, specially 
glibc, is a real big cpu and memory burner.. Binary distributions may not 
have hit your bad piece of hardware like that compile is doing.. 

You would be surprised the hardware issues that can come out in big compiles 
like that.

Just a thought,
Jeff
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[gentoo-user] Video capture with BTTV video card

[Lotas T Smartman]

I have been reading the forums about this but cant seem to get it
working. im trying to capture a video using my BTTV based capture card.
the following is what im typing in and getting as a reply:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root # mencoder tv:// -tv driver=tv:width=768:height=576:
-ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg:vbitrate=1500:vhq -oac mp3lame -lameopts
cbr:br=96 -vop pp=lb -o film.avi
MEncoder 1.0pre2-3.3.2 (C) 2000-2003 MPlayer Team
 
CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred 2000 MHz (Family:
6, Stepping: 1)
Detected cache-line size is 64 bytes
MMX supported but disabled
MMX2 supported but disabled
SSE supported but disabled
3DNow supported but disabled
3DNowExt supported but disabled
CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 0 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 0 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions:
 
Reading /root/.mplayer/codecs.conf: Can't open
'/root/.mplayer/codecs.conf': No such file or directory
Reading /usr/share/mplayer/codecs.conf: 61 audio & 157 video codecs
File not found: 'frameno.avi'
Failed to open frameno.avi
Reading config file /root/.mplayer/mencoder: No such file or directory
success: format: 9  data: 0x0 - 0x0
TV detected! ;-)
No such driver: tv
 Sorry, this file format is not recognized/supported
=
=== If this file is an AVI, ASF or MPEG stream, please contact the
author! ===
Cannot open demuxer.
Exiting...

not sure whats going on. im not getting the right driver for this (using
TV, could have something wrong there) and i dont know what this demuxer
is (well i know what it is but where is an other question). Any help?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Guide to OpenLDAP Authentication

[Marshal Newrock]

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Thomas Smith wrote:

> I've followed this guide to a tee and things aren't working like I
> thought they would. To sum it up, I figured that using this guide would
> allow me to replace /etc/passwd and associated files and authenticate
> against the LDAP directory (via pam_ldap and nss_ldap).
[snip]
> When I create a user in the LDAP directory (one that's not listed in
> /etc/passwd), I'm not able to authenticate this user.

Offhand, I'd guess it's because you have this line:
> authsufficient  /lib/security/pam_ldap.so use_first_pass

before this line:
> auth   sufficient   /lib/security/pam_unix.so likeauth nullok nodelay

You're trying to reuse a password that hasn't yet been entered.  Don't try
to take an easy way.  Put everything in the correct order.  And make sure
your requireds and sufficients are all correct.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation hangs continue!

[Jason Newquist]

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Jeff Smelser wrote:

> Define frozen for me.. You talking about lights on the keyboard don't change,
> can't do alt-f2,f3 and get to another terminal type freeze. Or, you can move
> around but the code just sits there for some reason.

- Typing things does not put characters in the terminal window.
- Alt-f2,f3 do nothing.
- Keyboard lights do not change.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation hangs continue!

[Jeff Smelser]

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On Friday 05 December 2003 06:38 pm, Jason Newquist wrote:
>   make[2]: leaving directory
>  `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.2-r3/work/glibc-2.3.2/stdlib`
>   make -j2 -C stdio-common subdir-lib
>
> And there it sits, frozen.  Is there any additional debug
> information I can provide?

Define frozen for me.. You talking about lights on the keyboard don't change, 
can't do alt-f2,f3 and get to another terminal type freeze. Or, you can move 
around but the code just sits there for some reason.

Jeff
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Re: [gentoo-user] Way OT: Doesn't IP need TCP or UDP for transport?

[Joshua Banks]

--- David Mallwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 05 December 2003 12:12 am, Joshua Banks wrote:
> 
> > I'll do some more research on IP to get a better understanding.
> >
> 
> You might want to get a copy of the late, great W. Richard Steven's 
> TCP/IP Illustrated, Vol. 1 (ISBN 0-201-63346-9) to help your
> research.
> 

Thanks David,

I've been looking at this book online and it looks perfect. Thanks for
the advice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync port - firewall config

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> > Firestarter seems to meet my needs.  I had to do a little hacking to
> > have it start on boot, though.  The gentoo emerge of firestarter didn't
> > install a /etc/init.d script.
>
> no it puts a line in /etc/ppp/if-up, since this will restart firestarter
> whenever you get a new if assigned through dialup.
>
> > Jonathan


I have Guarddog configuring my firewall and I needed to make a call to /etc/
rc.firewall from /etc/ppp/ip-up. Make sure /etc/ppp/ip-up isn't overwritten 
by /etc/init.d/net.ppp?. /etc/ppp/ip-up.local may be supported although I 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excluding maildirs from updatedb

[Stroller]

On Dec 4, 2003, at 8:03 pm, Paul Varner wrote:

Stroller wrote:
Personally, I just execute 'updatedb -e dir1,dir2,dir3

where dir1, etc. is the fully qualified path for a directory I want
to exclude.
Whilst this is practical on my current system, it wouldn't be should I
expand to 50... 500... 5000 users. So I guess that in that case I'd
have to write a script to read usernames from /etc/passwd & enter
"/home/$USERNAME/.Maildir" into PRUNPATHS, which is rather a chore.
Any other suggestions much appreciated.
Actually, the solution is to use the -e option.  In the
/etc/cron.daily/slocate script change the line the reads:
/usr/bin/updatedb
to:
/usr/bin/updatedb -e $(echo /home/*/.Maildir | tr ' ' ',')
When you execute the command updatedb, it always reads the
/etc/updatedb.conf file, so all you are doing here is adding those
directories to the exclude list that is defined in the updatedb.conf 
file.
Perfect! Many thanks, this works a treat.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Forums slow?

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> the rsync mirrors are timing out a lot. im getting max users connected
> quite a few times. Any ideas?


Just wait. The rsync mirrors were decimated due to the recent security
breach. They are being added as we can verify that they are updated and
secured. Normal working order should be in progress. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Forums slow?

[Lotas T Smartman]

i would love to make a new gentoo rsync mirror and have the hardware to
do so, but they say they want a 5mb/s connection minimum and i have 128k
upload. I have asked a local ISP in ireland (www.heanet.ie) to set one
up, but not sure if they did. 
Anyway, i think i can cope!
Thanks for the answer.
Lotas
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 23:03, Redeeman wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 21:49, Lotas T Smartman wrote:
> > is it just me or are the gentoo fourms slow latly? did i miss something
> they are overloaded, if you look at the infos the database is quite
> large, that takes time to search through!
> > saying why? also the rsync mirrors are timing out a lot. im getting max
> > users connected quite a few times.
> what to say, more and more gentoo users comes all time.
> > Any ideas?
> yeah, gentoo will be able to use a rsync mirror if you have got one in
> your pocket :) (and a nice connection)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Questions from a Debian User

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:45:49 +0900 Jason Stubbs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Hmmm... nobody informed me that it was pushed back. I was wondering
| why there had been no word on clarification of the LICENSES field in
| ebuilds.

Aron (agriffis) is writing a GLEP on this. Expect more news soon.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Questions from a Debian User

[Jason Stubbs]

On Saturday 06 December 2003 06:50, Michael C. Ferguson wrote:
> On Friday 05 December 2003 10:24 am, John Goerzen wrote:
> > 1. How can I ensure that my Gentoo system has only Free software?
>
> Well, I haven't tried this, but I believe if you go into
> your /usr/portage/licenses directory and remove the licenses you don't want
> to accept, Portage will not be able to install software that has that
> LICENSE= line. This is a big hack, though, and the next time you emerge
> sync you'll have to do it again; a script would probably be the best
> option, if you're really intent on making sure you only have "free"
> software installed.

This wouldn't work at all. Portage has no matching of licenses against the 
files available in /usr/portage/licenses.

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Questions from a Debian User

[Jason Stubbs]

On Saturday 06 December 2003 01:39, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
(B> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:24:43AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
(B> > 1. How can I ensure that my Gentoo system has only Free software?
(B>
(B> [...]
(B>
(B> This is being worked on. However, due to the recent security issues, the
(B> development of ACCEPT_LICENSES has been pushed back in favor of signed
(B> ebuilds/e-classes/...
(B
(BHmmm... nobody informed me that it was pushed back. I was wondering why there 
(Bhad been no word on clarification of the LICENSES field in ebuilds.
(B
(BIn answer to the question, check out bug 17367. The patch I submitted works 
(Bwell enough that you can ensure you are only using free software. There is 
(Bone bug in it that I found that I haven't yet submitted an updated patch for 
(Bbut I'll do that soon.
(B
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[gentoo-user] Installation hangs continue!

[Jason Newquist]

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Jon Ellis wrote:

> I had a problem similar to this when I was installing Gentoo on an old
> laptop.  In my case, it was apm locking up my machine.  When you boot
> the live cd try using the noapm option.  Worked like a charm for me!
> HTH.

To recap, I'm using:

- Dell Dimension 8100, circa Jan 2001.
- 512 MB RAM, two IDE drives
- Had Red Hat 9 installed and running clean for several
  months.  FreeBSD also installs and runs clean.
- Instructions followed to the letter!

Ok, for compile attempt number three...

Did the above and also made sure my CPU was defined as i686 in
make.conf, and tried a stage1 compile.  It died in the same place as
it has the other times: glibc.  The compile goes for an hour or
two, and then abruptly stops.  The last line I see on the screen
is:

make[2]: leaving directory
   `/var/tmp/portage/glibc-2.3.2-r3/work/glibc-2.3.2/stdlib`
make -j2 -C stdio-common subdir-lib

And there it sits, frozen.  Is there any additional debug
information I can provide?

Any assistance from the community would be most welcome!

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Guide to OpenLDAP Authentication

[Thomas Smith]

I've followed this guide to a tee and things aren't working like I 
thought they would. To sum it up, I figured that using this guide would 
allow me to replace /etc/passwd and associated files and authenticate 
against the LDAP directory (via pam_ldap and nss_ldap).

For users with REAL system account (/etc/passwd), I see entries in the 
syslog like this:

Dec  5 17:12:25 uacp-demo slapd[1882]: conn=294 op=0 BIND dn="" method=128
Dec  5 17:12:25 uacp-demo slapd[1882]: conn=294 op=0 RESULT tag=97 err=0 
text=
Dec  5 17:12:25 uacp-demo slapd[1882]: conn=294 op=1 SRCH 
base="ou=People,dc=uccinc,dc=net" scope=2 
filter="(&(objectClass=posixAccount)(uid=nagios))"
Dec  5 17:12:26 uacp-demo slapd[1882]: conn=294 op=1 SEARCH RESULT 
tag=101 err=0 text=
Dec  5 17:12:26 uacp-demo slapd[1881]: conn=294 op=2 UNBIND

It seems to be authenticating okay...but...

When I create a user in the LDAP directory (one that's not listed in 
/etc/passwd), I'm not able to authenticate this user.

Any ideas as to why this isn't working?

The relevant config files are attached (please let me know if I missed any):
/etc/ldap.conf
/etc/openldap/slapd.conf
/etc/conf.d/slapd
/etc/pam.d/sshd (this file wasn't discussed in the Guide)
/etc/pam.d/system-auth
#suffix "dc=uccinc,dc=net"
#pam_filter objectclass=posixAccount
#pam_member_attribute memberuid
#host 127.0.0.1
uri ldap://uacp-demo.uccinc.net
ldap_version 3
base dc=uccinc,dc=net
scope sub
timelimit 30
pam_login_attribute uid
pam_filter objectclass=posixAccount
nss_base_passwd ou=People,dc=uccinc,dc=net
nss_base_shadow ou=People,dc=uccinc,dc=net
nss_base_group  ou=People,dc=uccinc,dc=net
#scope one
#pam_password exop
#nss_base_passwdou=People,dc=uccinc,dc=net
#nss_base_shadowou=People,dc=uccinc,dc=net
#nss_base_group ou=Group,dc=uccinc,dc=net
#nss_base_hosts ou=Hosts,dc=uccinc,dc=net
#ssl start_tls
#ssl on
# conf.d file for the openldap-2.1 series
#
# To enable both the standard unciphered server and the ssl encrypted
# one uncomment this line or set any other server starting options
# you may desire.
#
# OPTS="-h 'ldaps:// ldap:// ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fslapd.sock'"
OPTS="-h ldap:// ldaps:// ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fslapd.sock"
# $OpenLDAP: pkg/ldap/servers/slapd/slapd.conf,v 1.8.8.7 2001/09/27 20:00:31 kurt Exp $
#
# See slapd.conf(5) for details on configuration options.
# This file should NOT be world readable.
#
include /etc/openldap/schema/core.schema
include /etc/openldap/schema/cosine.schema
include /etc/openldap/schema/inetorgperson.schema
include /etc/openldap/schema/nis.schema
password-hash   {crypt}
TLSCertificateFile  /etc/ssl/ldap.pem
TLSCertificateKeyFile   /etc/openldap/ssl/ldap.pem
TLSCACertificateFile/etc/ssl/ldap.pem

# Define global ACLs to disable default read access.
access to dn=".*,dc=uccinc,dc=net" attr="userPassword"
by dn="uid=root,ou=People,dc=uccinc,dc=net" write
by anonymous auth
by self write
by * search
access to *
by dn="uid=root,ou=People,dc=uccinc,dc=net" write
by * read

# Do not enable referrals until AFTER you have a working directory
# service AND an understanding of referrals.
#referral   ldap://root.openldap.org

pidfile /var/run/openldap/slapd.pid
argsfile/var/run/openldap/slapd.args

# Load dynamic backend modules:
# modulepath/usr/lib/openldap/openldap
# moduleloadback_ldap.la
# moduleloadback_ldbm.la
# moduleloadback_passwd.la
# moduleloadback_shell.la

#
# Sample Access Control
#   Allow read access of root DSE
#   Allow self write access
#   Allow authenticated users read access
#   Allow anonymous users to authenticate
#
#access to dn="" by * read
#access to *
#   by self write
#   by users read
#   by anonymous auth
#
# if no access controls are present, the default is:
#   Allow read by all
#
# rootdn can always write!

###
# ldbm database definitions
###

databaseldbm
suffix  "dc=uccinc,dc=net"
#suffix "o=My Organization Name,c=US"
rootdn  "cn=Manager,dc=uccinc,dc=net"
#rootdn "cn=Manager,o=My Organization Name,c=US"
# Cleartext passwords, especially for the rootdn, should
# be avoid.  See slappasswd(8) and slapd.conf(5) for details.
# Use of strong authentication encouraged.
rootpw  {MD5}bCnpzEBC2XKxX/AwTmNohg==
# The database directory MUST exist prior to running slapd AND 
# should only be accessible by the slapd/tools. Mode 700 recommended.
directory   /var/lib/openldap-ldbm
# Indices to maintain
index   objectClass eq
#%PAM-1.0

#auth   requiredpam_stack.so service=system-auth
#auth   required pam_shells.so
#auth  required pam_nologin.so
#accountrequiredpam_stack.so service=system-auth
#passwor

Re: [gentoo-user] can gentoo run WM depending in the Kernel ?

[Redeeman]

On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 00:25, SMS WebMaster wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Can gentoo run WM depending in the Kernel ?
> 
> for example when I run the kernel "gentoo-standard" I want gentoo to run 
>gnome as my window manager
> 
> BUT if I run "gentoo-lowbattry" I want gentoo to run XFCE
> 
low battery kernel?! /me would like to use that on laptop, where can i
read about this? and, is it the same as the cpu frequency scaling in
2,6? i am using that now

> can I do that ? (don't tell me to have two accounts ;) )
just make a script to start X, that uses output from uname -r to
determine what window manager you start :)

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[gentoo-user] can gentoo run WM depending in the Kernel ?

[SMS WebMaster]

Hi

Can gentoo run WM depending in the Kernel ?

for example when I run the kernel "gentoo-standard" I want gentoo to run 
  gnome as my window manager

BUT if I run "gentoo-lowbattry" I want gentoo to run XFCE

can I do that ? (don't tell me to have two accounts ;) )



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Re: [gentoo-user] Great Distro

[Daniel Robbins]

On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 15:51, Oliver Lange wrote:
> I come from SuSE and i can only say the same: gentoo is great
> (even if i trashed my world favorites file and then deleted about
> 20 packages with depclean, now my gnome doesn't load a desktop
> background anymore, but this is another topic :)

Just a note: many of the things in gentoolkit do not hook in directly to
Portage, so they may not use the proper algorithms to do their work.
This means that a lot of the helper scripts, while handy, sometimes mess
up.

A good solution to this is to join the gentoo-portage-dev mailing list
and make sure that these features are in portage-ng by default. We will
also make sure that portage-ng can be easily extended so script
developers can hook into the "official" Portage-ng functions/extensions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mapping hostname to a non routable ip addy

[mathieu perrenoud]

On Friday 05 December 2003 23:46, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2003, at 5:39 PM, Marius Mauch wrote:
> > On 12/05/03  Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> >> OK, here is the scenario.  Gentoo router has one routable ip and the
> >> internal network is nat'ed.  The routable ip has a domain that
> >> resolves to it, lets call it foobar.com.  Internally (non-routable
> >> ips), there are hosts (FQDN=host1.foobar.com,host2.foobar.com). Is
> >> there anyway (perhaps iptables, but probably some other software) to
> >> automatically forward all traffic to the appropriate host from the
> >> outside?  I know this has to be done at the packet level, but there
> >> are some hardware solutions for this, so I thought their might be
> >> something else out there...
> >
> > You can redirect traffic based on ports or IPs, but not on hostnames as
> > that information is not contained in the IP header, only in some higher
> > level protocols like HTTP.
>
> Yes, I'm aware of this.  That is what I am wondering, if there is any
> program that actually checks the packets and forwards appropriate
> traffic...

I think it has to be done on a per-protocol basis. For HTTP I would go for 
apache on the router and check the proxy and reverse_proxy directives.

I don't think it's possible to do this at a more general level. And it's only 
possible to do this for protocols which encapsulate hostnames like http or 
ftp. You'll never be able to have your router forward "nc spam.foo.bar 1234" 
to port 1234 of box spam.foo.bar.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Forums slow?

[Redeeman]

On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 21:49, Lotas T Smartman wrote:
> is it just me or are the gentoo fourms slow latly? did i miss something
they are overloaded, if you look at the infos the database is quite
large, that takes time to search through!
> saying why? also the rsync mirrors are timing out a lot. im getting max
> users connected quite a few times.
what to say, more and more gentoo users comes all time.
> Any ideas?
yeah, gentoo will be able to use a rsync mirror if you have got one in
your pocket :) (and a nice connection)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Great Distro

[Oliver Lange]

Spider wrote:
I  have used RedHat, Mandrake, Debian and now Gentoo and would like to
say that:
1. "Gentoo is a Great  Distribution"
Thanks, forwarding this to the core team just because praise is nice 
:-)

I come from SuSE and i can only say the same: gentoo is great
(even if i trashed my world favorites file and then deleted about
20 packages with depclean, now my gnome doesn't load a desktop
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Re: [gentoo-user] make.conf ambiguity - i486 or i686

[Jason Newquist]

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Lincoln A. Baxter wrote:

> On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 17:23, Jason Newquist wrote:
> > My P4 is indeed >= PPro.  However, then it says that any
> > "modern" machine should use i686.
>
> If you have a 486, I believe you are a pentium (NOT a pentium pro). I
> would change all the i586's above to i486s.

P4 != 486.  ;-)

But I think I've got it cleared up.  Let's hope this install run
works... :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] mapping hostname to a non routable ip addy

[Nathaniel McCallum]

On Dec 5, 2003, at 5:39 PM, Marius Mauch wrote:

On 12/05/03  Nathaniel McCallum wrote:

OK, here is the scenario.  Gentoo router has one routable ip and the
internal network is nat'ed.  The routable ip has a domain that
resolves to it, lets call it foobar.com.  Internally (non-routable
ips), there are hosts (FQDN=host1.foobar.com,host2.foobar.com). Is
there anyway (perhaps iptables, but probably some other software) to
automatically forward all traffic to the appropriate host from the
outside?  I know this has to be done at the packet level, but there
are some hardware solutions for this, so I thought their might be
something else out there...
You can redirect traffic based on ports or IPs, but not on hostnames as
that information is not contained in the IP header, only in some higher
level protocols like HTTP.
Yes, I'm aware of this.  That is what I am wondering, if there is any 
program that actually checks the packets and forwards appropriate 
traffic...

Nathaniel

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Re: [gentoo-user] mapping hostname to a non routable ip addy

[Marius Mauch]

On 12/05/03  Nathaniel McCallum wrote:

> OK, here is the scenario.  Gentoo router has one routable ip and the 
> internal network is nat'ed.  The routable ip has a domain that
> resolves to it, lets call it foobar.com.  Internally (non-routable
> ips), there are hosts (FQDN=host1.foobar.com,host2.foobar.com). Is
> there anyway (perhaps iptables, but probably some other software) to
> automatically forward all traffic to the appropriate host from the
> outside?  I know this has to be done at the packet level, but there
> are some hardware solutions for this, so I thought their might be
> something else out there...

You can redirect traffic based on ports or IPs, but not on hostnames as
that information is not contained in the IP header, only in some higher
level protocols like HTTP.

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Re: [gentoo-user] make.conf ambiguity - i486 or i686

[Lincoln A. Baxter]

On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 17:23, Jason Newquist wrote:
> In the CHOST section at the top, my default value (before entering
> stage 1) is "i486-pc-linux-gnu".  In reading the comments, it says
> to leave this alone for a "Pentium Pro or higher processor."  My P4
> is indeed >= PPro.  However, then it says that any "modern" machine
> should use i686.

A 486 is NOT a "modern" machine in this context.
> 
> Later on, in CFLAGS, the file has an "-mCPU=i686" declaration.

I have a PPro... (586-200mHX) as my gentoo firewall. I use:

CHOST="i586-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-mcpu=i586 -O2 -pipe"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

If you have a 486, I believe you are a pentium (NOT a pentium pro). I
would change all the i586's above to i486s.

You definitely do NOT want to compile with -mcpu=i686

It will generate code that will not work.  I think that is true for
-mcpu=i586 as well... but I may be wrong.  Play it safe, though.




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[gentoo-user] mapping hostname to a non routable ip addy

[Nathaniel McCallum]

OK, here is the scenario.  Gentoo router has one routable ip and the 
internal network is nat'ed.  The routable ip has a domain that resolves 
to it, lets call it foobar.com.  Internally (non-routable ips), there 
are hosts (FQDN=host1.foobar.com,host2.foobar.com). Is there anyway 
(perhaps iptables, but probably some other software) to automatically 
forward all traffic to the appropriate host from the outside?  I know 
this has to be done at the packet level, but there are some hardware 
solutions for this, so I thought their might be something else out 
there...

Nathaniel

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[gentoo-user] make.conf ambiguity - i486 or i686

[Jason Newquist]

I am in the middle of re-attempting an installation after my first
two attempts froze.  I have just completed an "emerge sync", and I'm
giving the /etc/make.conf file a once-over before I go.

Question.  Apologies if this is a FAQ.  Google doesn't provide a
clear answer...

In the CHOST section at the top, my default value (before entering
stage 1) is "i486-pc-linux-gnu".  In reading the comments, it says
to leave this alone for a "Pentium Pro or higher processor."  My P4
is indeed >= PPro.  However, then it says that any "modern" machine
should use i686.

Later on, in CFLAGS, the file has an "-mCPU=i686" declaration.

So which is it?  Should I leave it at i486 and proceed with stage1,
or change it to i686?  Should I leave it alone for stage1, then go
back and change it for stage2?

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Re: [gentoo-user] like korganizer in Gnome ?

[nealbirch]

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:29:44 +0300
SMS WebMaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I want to use any organizer in gnome , is there any program like 
> korganizer in gnome ? dont say to me "Use evolution" because it is
> very slow and it's don't support non-English very well
> 
> 
> Any help ?

I found jpilot does pretty much everything I need, even though I don't
have a palm.  I run xfce4, and don't feel like loading all (or most) of
kde or gnome just for one app that does this one function. 

There is a gnome-pilot listed too, it should have similar functionality,
maybe. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Questions from a Debian User

[Michael C. Ferguson]

On Friday 05 December 2003 10:24 am, John Goerzen wrote:

> 1. How can I ensure that my Gentoo system has only Free software?

Well, I haven't tried this, but I believe if you go into 
your /usr/portage/licenses directory and remove the licenses you don't want 
to accept, Portage will not be able to install software that has that 
LICENSE= line. This is a big hack, though, and the next time you emerge sync 
you'll have to do it again; a script would probably be the best option, if 
you're really intent on making sure you only have "free" software installed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Are Alsa-1.0.0rc2 ebuilds coming soon?

[brett holcomb]

I'll give it a try.  I'll have to find a time slot - maybe 
between 3:00 and 3:30 AM .

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:16:02 -0800
 "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Okay, I couldn't remember.  I know that when I do a 
digest
and the file does not exist it will go download the file
so it can calculate the digest.

Let me know what blows up.  You know with this beta 
stuff
Usermode Linux is looking attractive .

It's up and running. I'm remote from the box so I cannot 
listen to anything,
but nothing bad so far. My aoss xmms problem is improved 
and now giving me
an error message about not finding /dev/sound/dsp so 
maybe that's a
configuration issue that can be solved and I'll finally 
get this working
right.

If you have a need, then you might try the upgrade 
yourself. This time
around I think it took less that 30 minutes to get it all 
in place.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo for production servers.

[brett holcomb]

Hmm, I didn't say this - Mr. Simpson did.  However, yes, ~ 
means it's unstable for various reasons (ebuild not 
tested, app is unstable, etc.) so those of us who need to 
run use no ~arch.  The no ~arch is stable stuff and Gentoo 
seems to be pretty conservative in what they recommmend.

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:07:54 -0800 (PST)
 "Eric Paynter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
brett holcomb said:
This quote was made by Daniel Robbins in an OSNews
article.  http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1080
"Gentoo Linux is currently a "bleeding-edge" type distro.
It makes Gentoo Linux the ideal distribution for
hobbyists who get lots of cool toys before everyone else,
but makes Gentoo Linux a questionable choice for
production server environments,"
[...]
Since this was based off of Gentoo 1.0 how relevant is
this for the current 1.4 release in a production server
environment?
Thanks,
Brett
I thought if you wanted "bleeding edge" you used ~ARCH in 
your
make.conf. For those of us who like to *use* our machines 
rather
than play with then, no "~" means you can expect things 
to be as
stable as any other production-quality system. Is that 
not the case?

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RE: [gentoo-user] Are Alsa-1.0.0rc2 ebuilds coming soon?

[Mark Knecht]

>
> Okay, I couldn't remember.  I know that when I do a digest
> and the file does not exist it will go download the file
> so it can calculate the digest.
>
> Let me know what blows up.  You know with this beta stuff
> Usermode Linux is looking attractive .
>

It's up and running. I'm remote from the box so I cannot listen to anything,
but nothing bad so far. My aoss xmms problem is improved and now giving me
an error message about not finding /dev/sound/dsp so maybe that's a
configuration issue that can be solved and I'll finally get this working
right.

If you have a need, then you might try the upgrade yourself. This time
around I think it took less that 30 minutes to get it all in place.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync port - firewall config

[SN]

- Original Message - 
From: "collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "g2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] rsync port - firewall config


> On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 16:12, Jonathan Stickel wrote:
> > SN wrote:
> > > Firestarter is pretty good and it allows easy manuall adjustments.
Since it
> > > useses plain files ere you can insert ports or hosts and so on, very
> > > flexible.
> > > You can even use it for scripted actions.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Firestarter seems to meet my needs.  I had to do a little hacking to
> > have it start on boot, though.  The gentoo emerge of firestarter didn't
> > install a /etc/init.d script.
> >
>
> Shorewall is an excellent and easy-to-configure product.

If shorewall wasn't so buggy all the time I'd say yes, but everytime the guy
releases a new version there is some major bug in there.
Shorewall is very powerful, but often just broken.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc 3

[SN]

GCC 3 is more strict then GCC 2.x, either check your code and get rid of the
warnings or switch of some checking that gcc does. I'd check the code and
see if you can improve it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Oliver Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: [gentoo-user] gcc 3


> Hello everyone,
>
> I've problems with compiling an own project with GCC 3.2.
> Everything compiles well under GCC 2.95.3, but with GCC3,
> i get linker errors like this:
>
> warning: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned)'
> warning: undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)'
> warning: undefined reference to `vtable for
__cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
>
> These are calls from a C function which is using a C++ class.
> What's the difference between GCC2 and GCC3 ? Is it a missing
> software package ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo for production servers.

[Eric Paynter]

brett holcomb said:
>>This quote was made by Daniel Robbins in an OSNews
>>article.  http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1080
>>
>>"Gentoo Linux is currently a "bleeding-edge" type distro.
>>It makes Gentoo Linux the ideal distribution for
>>hobbyists who get lots of cool toys before everyone else,
>>but makes Gentoo Linux a questionable choice for
>>production server environments,"
[...]
>Since this was based off of Gentoo 1.0 how relevant is
>this for the current 1.4 release in a production server
>environment?
>
>Thanks,
>Brett

I thought if you wanted "bleeding edge" you used ~ARCH in your
make.conf. For those of us who like to *use* our machines rather
than play with then, no "~" means you can expect things to be as
stable as any other production-quality system. Is that not the case?

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Forums slow?

[Lotas T Smartman]

is it just me or are the gentoo fourms slow latly? did i miss something
saying why? also the rsync mirrors are timing out a lot. im getting max
users connected quite a few times.
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel compile error (2.6.0-test11-r1)

[Mike Williams]

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On Friday 05 December 2003 17:25, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> On Friday 05 Dec 2003 11:03, Simon Mushi wrote:
> > Thanks a lot for the tip...it worked, and the recompile was so much
> > faster. I really like this new time saving feature as make clean is
> > now unneccessary.
>
> You can still do `make clean`.  It's `make dep` that's unnecessary with
> the 2.6 kernels.

'make clean' is also unnecessary, or more correctly, isn't necessary.
It's pretty much always been like this, as the Makefile/make should be 
intelligent enough to not recompile things that don't need to be recompiled.
For a few minutes extra CPU work I always 'make clean' first. Saves any, 
admitedly unlikely, hassle later.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo for production servers.

[Christian Aust]

brett holcomb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) schrieb am 05.12.2003 21:50 Uhr:

>> Since this was based off of Gentoo 1.0 how relevant is
>> this for the current 1.4 release in a production server
>> environment?

I'm running Gentoo on production servers on the internet for more than 18
months now, and find it far superior to both Suse and Redhat distros. IMHO
most production environment is to keep track of important patches to both
system and server software. Gentoo is the appropriate tool for this.
Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Great Distro

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On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:59:56 -0800
Yogesh Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I  have used RedHat, Mandrake, Debian and now Gentoo and would like to
> say that:
> 
> 1. "Gentoo is a Great  Distribution"


Thanks, forwarding this to the core team just because praise is nice 
:-)

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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo for production servers.

[brett holcomb]

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:38:15 -0500
 "Brett Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This quote was made by Daniel Robbins in an OSNews 
article.  http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1080

"Gentoo Linux is currently a "bleeding-edge" type distro. 
It makes Gentoo Linux the ideal distribution for 
hobbyists who get lots of cool toys before everyone else, 
but makes Gentoo Linux a questionable choice for 
production server environments,"

"We're going to take pieces of the current 
"bleeding-edge" Gentoo Linux meta-distribution, refined 
them and use them as the basis for a robust, 
well-maintained version of Gentoo Linux -- geared 
exclusively for servers. For this project, we will reduce 
the number of ebuilds in our server branch from 1800 to 
around 400, at least initially. Our stable CVS tree will 
be completely separate from our current bleeding-edge 
version -- a "code firewall", if you will. Commit access 
will be limited to an elite team of Gentoo Linux 
developers. We will lock down upgrades so that "emerge 
--update world" will only fix known bugs and security 
fixes. Each release of this new server meta-distribution 
will have an official one-year lifespan, during which it 
will be painstakingly maintained by us. In-place upgrades 
to new releases will be fully-tested and very smooth. We 
will have some cross-pollination with our current tree, 
but anything that goes into the server distro will be 
carefully audited before being added. We are still 
developing the goals for our new server project, but 
based on feedback from the rest of our development team 
(who seem to be in near unanimous agreement) it looks 
like the project will progress very closely if not 
identically to how it is described above."

Since this was based off of Gentoo 1.0 how relevant is 
this for the current 1.4 release in a production server 
environment?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] login problem in X

[mornabis]

all is ready, it was for k3b, i use it whit sudo and it changed 
.ICEauthority permissions, how could i write cds without using sudo??

mornabis wrote:
Hi all there, when i login on X it pops a window saying that my 
session only lasted less than 10 seconds, when i view details in 
.xsession-errors it says:

/etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: Registering your session with wtmp and 
utmp
/etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: running: sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp 
-u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l :0 fa

 there are 1.5 GB free on my hard disk.

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Re: [gentoo-user] old or non-existant ebuild

[brett holcomb]

Go to Gentoo.org and look under Developer docs for a 
start. Also man ebuild man 5 ebuild, man emerge. Then set 
up an additional directory in /etc/make.conf - I can't 
remember the variable right now.  However, I set mine to 
/usr/local/portage.  Create /usr/local/portage and make 
the subdirectory structure for the package you want to 
work on.  Just do cp -r and copy the directory tree for 
that package (i.e cp media-sound/jack-cvs 
/usr/local/portage).  Get rid of all the unneccesary 
versions and then hack away.

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:30:14 -0800
 Jonathan Stickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Suppose I want programs X and Y on my gentoo machine.  I 
notice that the ebuild for program X is outdated, and 
there is no ebuild for program Y.

Is there some forum where I can request the update or 
creation of ebuilds for these programs?

Where can I learn about getting involved in the ebuild 
process?  I am not a programmer, but if there are a few 
well-documented steps to create an ebuild and put it in 
the portage tree, I would be interested in learning.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Are Alsa-1.0.0rc2 ebuilds coming soon?

[brett holcomb]

Okay, I couldn't remember.  I know that when I do a digest 
and the file does not exist it will go download the file 
so it can calculate the digest.

Let me know what blows up.  You know with this beta stuff 
Usermode Linux is looking attractive .

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:27:37 -0800
 "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


In many cases this is all that is necessary - if it
downloads the file it will create the digest for you, if
not run the digest trick.
Yes, my modified ebuild does download the file (so Thomas 
was making us do
an extra step before) but makes me generate the digest as 
Redeeman said. rc2
drivers installing now.

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Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia nForce 2 and Gentoo

[Paul Grenyer]

Hi

> I went through this when I got my new MB as well :)

Nice to know I'm not alone. :-)

> Try passing pci=noacpi to the kernel on boot.  Do a search on
> forums.gentoo.org for 'a7n8x' which also has the nforce2 chipset and
> caused a bunch of problems.  Hopefully the stock gentoo-sources kernel 
> will update to 2.4.22+ which has support for that chipset.

Will do! Thank you very much!

Regards
Paul

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[gentoo-user] Great Distro

[Yogesh Sharma]

Hello Everyone,

I  have used RedHat, Mandrake, Debian and now Gentoo and would like to 
say that:

1. "Gentoo is a Great  Distribution"
2. Install document is really easy and I was able to install it properly 
on first instance
   a. On IBM Think Pad T20
   b. Compaq Presario 906US
   c. White Box
3. Other documentation for configuring X , Printer etc are also great

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Re: [gentoo-user] what will happen..

[Eric Paynter]

Adrian Pirciu said:
> This is a very realistic answer. Thank you. I've seen many good
> projects dying.. it would be quite painful to see gentoo die.. i'm
>  quite attached to it now :)

But it's just an operating system, after all. I'm sure most of us
have changed our OS several times over the years? Over the years,
I've used four different Linux distros, FreeBSD, Solaris, and a
half-dozen Windows versions. Be flexible and change as your
requirements change. If gentoo stops meeting your requirements
(either because the quality decreases or support ends) then simply
replace it. Or, if you like it enough, take over the project when
nobody else will and you can keep it going forever!

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Re: [gentoo-user] NVidia nForce 2 and Gentoo

[Alan]

On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 07:44:04PM -, Paul Grenyer wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I'm new around here and I'm hoping someone may be able to help me with a
> problem I have.
> 
> I recently bought a Shuttle SN45G
> (http://us.shuttle.com/specs_access.asp?pro_id=279), which has an "North
> bridge - NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400, South bridge - MCP-T" chip-set.
> 
> I have tried a number of different Linux distributions, but most of them,
> including Debian 3.0, Slackware 9.1 and Gentoo 1.4 won't even boot from the
> installation cd. I've managed to install Mandrake 9.1, but that failed on
> first boot. I've installed Red Hat 9.0, but that  refused to boot after the
> first day. I've also installed SuSE 8.1, but that was horrible to use and
> didn't appear to want to online update .
> 
> As I said above I couldn't get Gentoo 1.4 to boot. I've also tried the
> latest Live CD, but that won't boot either. Has anyone managed to get Gentoo
> (or any other distribution) working correctly with my chipset?

I went through this when I got my new MB as well :)

Try passing pci=noacpi to the kernel on boot.  Do a search on
forums.gentoo.org for 'a7n8x' which also has the nforce2 chipset and
caused a bunch of problems.  Hopefully the stock gentoo-sources kernel 
will update to 2.4.22+ which has support for that chipset.


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[gentoo-user] login problem in X

[mornabis]

	Hi all there, when i login on X it pops a window saying that my session 
only lasted less than 10 seconds, when i view details in 
.xsession-errors it says:

/etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: Registering your session with wtmp and 
utmp
/etc/X11/gdm/PreSession//Default: running: sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp 
-u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l :0 fa

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation Hangs... Twice!

[Jason Newquist]

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Elton Algera wrote:

> You should then take a look at /mnt/gentoo/var/log/emerge.log This should
> give you some info on which package the compilation crashed...
> Maybe you can post it here...

Sure.  The last entry in emerge.log is:

1070583503: === (2 of 44) Compiling/Merging
(sys-libs/glibc-2.3.2-r3::/usr/portage/sys-libs/glibc/glibc-2.3.2-r3.ebuild)

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[gentoo-user] NVidia nForce 2 and Gentoo

[Paul Grenyer]

Hi All

I'm new around here and I'm hoping someone may be able to help me with a
problem I have.

I recently bought a Shuttle SN45G
(http://us.shuttle.com/specs_access.asp?pro_id=279), which has an "North
bridge - NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400, South bridge - MCP-T" chip-set.

I have tried a number of different Linux distributions, but most of them,
including Debian 3.0, Slackware 9.1 and Gentoo 1.4 won't even boot from the
installation cd. I've managed to install Mandrake 9.1, but that failed on
first boot. I've installed Red Hat 9.0, but that  refused to boot after the
first day. I've also installed SuSE 8.1, but that was horrible to use and
didn't appear to want to online update .

As I said above I couldn't get Gentoo 1.4 to boot. I've also tried the
latest Live CD, but that won't boot either. Has anyone managed to get Gentoo
(or any other distribution) working correctly with my chipset?

Thanks!

Regards
Paul

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Re: [gentoo-user] old or non-existant ebuild

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:30:14 -0800 Jonathan Stickel
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| Is there some forum where I can request the update or creation of 
| ebuilds for these programs?

http://bugs.gentoo.org/

| Where can I learn about getting involved in the ebuild process?  I am 
| not a programmer, but if there are a few well-documented steps to
| create an ebuild and put it in the portage tree, I would be interested
| in learning.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml#doc_chap6

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RE: [gentoo-user] old or non-existant ebuild

[Jeffrey Smelser]

> Suppose I want programs X and Y on my gentoo machine.  I 
> notice that the 
> ebuild for program X is outdated, and there is no ebuild for 
> program Y.
> 
> Is there some forum where I can request the update or creation of 
> ebuilds for these programs?

Sometimes you can ask the devs, and they do it. Sometimes they don't..  Not because 
they don't want to, but they are usually pretty busy already.. Best thing to do it 
create your own, and help out.. Most ebuilds are pretty easy... 
 
> Where can I learn about getting involved in the ebuild process?  I am 
> not a programmer, but if there are a few well-documented 
> steps to create 
> an ebuild and put it in the portage tree, I would be 
> interested in learning.

First one is detailed instructions on how to build on. Don't let all the info fool 
you.  Its not that hard.. Second one is how to submit it.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-howto.xml

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml



The old X one, Most of the time you can just rename the ebuild, and maybe the source 
line(whatever line downloads the program), and it should get the latest version.. 
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RE: [gentoo-user] Are Alsa-1.0.0rc2 ebuilds coming soon?

[Mark Knecht]

>
>
> In many cases this is all that is necessary - if it
> downloads the file it will create the digest for you, if
> not run the digest trick.
>
Yes, my modified ebuild does download the file (so Thomas was making us do
an extra step before) but makes me generate the digest as Redeeman said. rc2
drivers installing now.

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[gentoo-user] old or non-existant ebuild

[Jonathan Stickel]

Suppose I want programs X and Y on my gentoo machine.  I notice that the 
ebuild for program X is outdated, and there is no ebuild for program Y.

Is there some forum where I can request the update or creation of 
ebuilds for these programs?

Where can I learn about getting involved in the ebuild process?  I am 
not a programmer, but if there are a few well-documented steps to create 
an ebuild and put it in the portage tree, I would be interested in learning.

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RE: [gentoo-user] buildpkg + moving packages

[Jeffrey Smelser]

> I'm maintaining 3 p3 computers, and i would like to compile stuff on 
> one of them (using --buildpkg also) and then make the others use that 
> package than compiling the whole thing again (although i'm using 
> distcc). How can I "publish" that package for the others to use it ? 
> Can I use apache on the compiling machine and from the others 
> something like PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://compiling.machine.com/
> packages/All" ? Any other ideas ? How can I move a package from the 
> compiling machine to a machine that does not have network installed ? 
> (in what directory? what files ?). What parameters will I use for 
> emerge on the not-compiling machines ( -g ? -K? any other ?) ?

I nfs partition my /usr/portage.. If you do it this way, there is no need for each 
machine to have its own copy.. They will then all see the packages directory.

Other then that, you would have to use some kind of rsync, or type tool.. Or just 
manually copy them over.. 

unless someone else has come up with something better. I do nfs and that has worked 
great for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vncserver + gnome setup problem

[Redeeman]

On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 21:09, Shane Bouslough wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm using a GRP 1.4 install,  and I did an emerge of  tightvnc.
> 
> When I start a vncserver session and then connect remotely via a
> vnc client, I always get the typical X gray background as if twm
> was started.
> 
> My ~/.vnc/xstartup file just contains
> 
>#!/bin/sh
>exec /usr/bin/gnome-session &
> 
> I've read several of the Gentoo tutorials on setting up vnc, but most
> replies seem to show many people still have this same issue.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
there is a xsetroot line too, that one sets the bg
> -Shane
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RE: [gentoo-user] Are Alsa-1.0.0rc2 ebuilds coming soon?

[Redeeman]

if you rename a ebuild you need to do digest

On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 19:40, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >
> > If it doesn't come out cp the ebuild for _rc1 and make it
> > _rc2.  That should do it.
> >
> 
> Brett,
>I wondered if it was that simple. Do I need to do that digests trick we
> spoke of, or is that not necessary even the first time?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Are Alsa-1.0.0rc2 ebuilds coming soon?

[brett holcomb]

In many cases this is all that is necessary - if it 
downloads the file it will create the digest for you, if 
not run the digest trick. 

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:40:22 -0800
 "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If it doesn't come out cp the ebuild for _rc1 and make 
it
_rc2.  That should do it.

Brett,
   I wondered if it was that simple. Do I need to do 
that digests trick we
spoke of, or is that not necessary even the first time?

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] buildpkg + moving packages

[Adrian Pirciu]

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I'm maintaining 3 p3 computers, and i would like to compile stuff on 
one of them (using --buildpkg also) and then make the others use that 
package than compiling the whole thing again (although i'm using 
distcc). How can I "publish" that package for the others to use it ? 
Can I use apache on the compiling machine and from the others 
something like PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://compiling.machine.com/
packages/All" ? Any other ideas ? How can I move a package from the 
compiling machine to a machine that does not have network installed ? 
(in what directory? what files ?). What parameters will I use for 
emerge on the not-compiling machines ( -g ? -K? any other ?) ?

Thanks in advance.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Are Alsa-1.0.0rc2 ebuilds coming soon?

[Mark Knecht]

>
> If it doesn't come out cp the ebuild for _rc1 and make it
> _rc2.  That should do it.
>

Brett,
   I wondered if it was that simple. Do I need to do that digests trick we
spoke of, or is that not necessary even the first time?

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Re: [gentoo-user] failed to generat dependacies

[Marius Mauch]

On 12/05/03  Elton Algera wrote:

> 
> Sorry, I don't see the big difference between my reply and yours. But
> then again maybe my english is not perfect.
> 
> The only thing I tried to point out is that the virtuals are linked to
> 
> real packages in /etc/make.profile/virtuals. If the "real" package is 
> masked, then so is the virtual, yielding the error.

That's wrong, that file lists the default packages for virtuals. It
should never be touched by users. What you mean is
/var/cache/edb/virtuals, but even then it's not wise to edit that as
ac-sources is msaked for a reason.

> I never meant to suggest that the symbolic link should be adapted! I
> meant that you can see which "real" kernel is connected to the
> virtual, which can give you the info on why the emerge fails.

You previous post suggested otherwise: "You can change it, however, by
changing profiles (/etc/make.profile symb. link)"

> So if you have a masked kernel you could install another one.
> So essentially I meant to say the same thing as you did.

Well, it should be clear now :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Are Alsa-1.0.0rc2 ebuilds coming soon?

[brett holcomb]

If it doesn't come out cp the ebuild for _rc1 and make it 
_rc2.  That should do it.

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:05:04 -0800
 "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
   The ~x86 branch got the 1.0.0rc1 ebuilds out in less 
than 2 days from the
Alsa developers releasing that code. Will they do as well 
again with rc2?
Will they'll do it even sooner?

   I really like Gentoo. This is a great system.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] what will happen..

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On Friday 05 December 2003 20:20, Marius Mauch wrote:
> On 12/05/03  Adrian Pirciu wrote:
> > Gentoo is a great system.. but what will happen when the people
> > that support it will get bored or leave or.. anything... who will
> > continue the work ? what will happen then ?
>
> Either others will join and continue the work or it will die, it's
> the same as with any other OSS project. Even in the commercial
> world there is no guarantee that a product line will live forever
> (see Redhat). But considering that we currently have 200-300 people
> working on Gentoo it would take a long time before that would
> happen.
>
> Marius

This is a very realistic answer. Thank you. I've seen many good 
projects dying.. it would be quite painful to see gentoo die.. i'm 
quite attached to it now :) 
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Re: [gentoo-user] what will happen..

[Marius Mauch]

On 12/05/03  Adrian Pirciu wrote:

> Gentoo is a great system.. but what will happen when the people that 
> support it will get bored or leave or.. anything... who will continue 
> the work ? what will happen then ?

Either others will join and continue the work or it will die, it's the
same as with any other OSS project. Even in the commercial world there
is no guarantee that a product line will live forever (see Redhat).
But considering that we currently have 200-300 people working on Gentoo
it would take a long time before that would happen.

Marius

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Re: [gentoo-user] failed to generat dependacies

[Elton Algera]

Sorry, I don't see the big difference between my reply and yours. But then 
again maybe my english is not perfect.

The only thing I tried to point out is that the virtuals are linked to 
real packages in /etc/make.profile/virtuals. If the "real" package is 
masked, then so is the virtual, yielding the error.

I never meant to suggest that the symbolic link should be adapted! I meant 
that you can see which "real" kernel is connected to the virtual, which 
can give you the info on why the emerge fails.

So if you have a masked kernel you could install another one.

So essentially I meant to say the same thing as you did.

Elton




On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Marius Mauch wrote:

> On 12/05/03  Elton Algera wrote:
> 
> > Check the contents of /etc/make.profile/virtuals; e.g.
> > 
> > grep linux-sources /etc/make.profile/virtuals
> > 
> > in my case it gives sys-kernel/gentoo-sources.
> > You can change it, however, by changing profiles (/etc/make.profile
> > symb. link)
> > 
> > If this grep yields somethings else that's only masked then that's the
> > trouble...
> 
> Sorry, don't want to be rude but I have to say this:
> Please don't give advise if you don't know what you're talking about.
> What you suggested is complete nonsense and can be very dangerous. 
> 
> That said, the original problem is likely caused by ac-sources or
> gaming-sources. 
> ac-sources is unmaintained upstream and therefore masked in
> package.mask. If you really want to continue to use it you can unmask
> them in /etc/portage/package.unmask, but I recommend that you switch to
> another kernel package as there won't be new versions or fixes for
> ac-sources.
> There was an issue with gaming-sources a few days ago, don't really know
> what caused it, it seems to work fine now (if you use
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"). If not run `emerge --sync` and try again.
> 
> Marius
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Re: [gentoo-user] what will happen..

[Bram De Smet]

do not panic...
keep breathing...
if someone leaves, someone else will take over...
it's always been like that in open source... if the project is
interesting that is.

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Re: [gentoo-user] what will happen..

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On Friday 05 December 2003 20:15, Adrian Pirciu wrote:
> Gentoo is a great system.. but what will happen when the people that
> support it will get bored or leave or.. anything... who will continue
> the work ? what will happen then ?
That's where users come in. New ideeas .. as long as people come with new 
plans for gentoo and new features come up i dont think people will get bored. 
A feature-trying busy user is a happy user.
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[gentoo-user] what will happen..

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Gentoo is a great system.. but what will happen when the people that 
support it will get bored or leave or.. anything... who will continue 
the work ? what will happen then ?
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[gentoo-user] Are Alsa-1.0.0rc2 ebuilds coming soon?

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   The ~x86 branch got the 1.0.0rc1 ebuilds out in less than 2 days from the
Alsa developers releasing that code. Will they do as well again with rc2?
Will they'll do it even sooner?

   I really like Gentoo. This is a great system.


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[gentoo-user] kopete 0.7.4 ebuild

[Bram De Smet]

Been testing Kopete version 0.7.4.
It seems pretty stable to me.

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation Hangs... Twice!

[Jon Ellis]

On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 10:02, Jason Newquist wrote:
> Second time, I tried stage 2, by the book, no modififcations to any
> config files.  A couple times during the various compiling process I
> heard a series of five beeps.  By the time I ran into the office to
> check the machine and hit a key to bring it out of screensaver mode,
> whatever it was that had caused that had scrolled off the screen.
> Anyway, hours later, it was still going, so I went to bed.  Woke up
> this morning, and poof - black screen, frozen.

I had a problem similar to this when I was installing Gentoo on an old
laptop.  In my case, it was apm locking up my machine.  When you boot
the live cd try using the noapm option.  Worked like a charm for me! 
HTH.

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Re: [gentoo-user] failed to generat dependacies

[Marius Mauch]

On 12/05/03  Elton Algera wrote:

> Check the contents of /etc/make.profile/virtuals; e.g.
> 
> grep linux-sources /etc/make.profile/virtuals
> 
> in my case it gives sys-kernel/gentoo-sources.
> You can change it, however, by changing profiles (/etc/make.profile
> symb. link)
> 
> If this grep yields somethings else that's only masked then that's the
> trouble...

Sorry, don't want to be rude but I have to say this:
Please don't give advise if you don't know what you're talking about.
What you suggested is complete nonsense and can be very dangerous. 

That said, the original problem is likely caused by ac-sources or
gaming-sources. 
ac-sources is unmaintained upstream and therefore masked in
package.mask. If you really want to continue to use it you can unmask
them in /etc/portage/package.unmask, but I recommend that you switch to
another kernel package as there won't be new versions or fixes for
ac-sources.
There was an issue with gaming-sources a few days ago, don't really know
what caused it, it seems to work fine now (if you use
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86"). If not run `emerge --sync` and try again.

Marius

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[gentoo-user] OpenSSL errors with mutt

[Adam Mercer]

Hi

I'm using mutt 1.5.4 and everything now and again I get the following
error

Invoking OpenSSL... Error: unable to create OpenSSL subprocess!
no certfile
S/MIME certificate owner does not match sender

Any ideas whats going on here?

Cheers

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RE: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

[Rex Young]

> 
> On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 04:45, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> > Also, the Rio Karma
> > 
>  o.asp?model=220&cat=53>
> > has FLAC and Ogg Vorbis support.
> 
> Silly question, but does it have Linux support? :)
> 
> [Presumably a USB mass-storage driver device?]
> 

I also seem to recall something about the bugger using
java.  Also from their website:

Included docking station supports: - Dual RCA Line-Outs to connect to most
home stereo components - Ethernet port - Assign an IP address for networking
capability - Auto-synchronization with host PC

One doesn't need to have USB to work with it.  hmmm.

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[gentoo-user] Solved: gcc3 linker issue

[Oliver Lange]

Hello everybody,

My gcc3 linker issue hast just been solved by a user in the
gcc mailing list, who suggested to use g++ for linking instead
of gcc. That solved the problem.
I still wonder why gcc 2.95.3 worked well without using g++
for linking. However.. happy again. :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel compile error (2.6.0-test11-r1)

[Peter Ruskin]

On Friday 05 Dec 2003 11:03, Simon Mushi wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the tip...it worked, and the recompile was so much
> faster. I really like this new time saving feature as make clean is
> now unneccessary.

You can still do `make clean`.  It's `make dep` that's unnecessary with 
the 2.6 kernels.

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Re: [gentoo-user] .bin/.cue --> .iso ?

[Alan]

> eupdatedb works something like updatedb / locate does for the rest of
> the system, but only on the portage tree.
> 
> esearch is a -far- faster implementation of emerge -S or emerge -s. 
> (wonderfully so)
> 

/me makes a note to add eupdatedb into cron.

Great and fast proggy, but if you forget to run the update you end up
like me wondering why all the version numbers are off :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] failed to generat dependacies

[Elton Algera]

Check the contents of /etc/make.profile/virtuals; e.g.

grep linux-sources /etc/make.profile/virtuals

in my case it gives sys-kernel/gentoo-sources.
You can change it, however, by changing profiles (/etc/make.profile symb. 
link)

If this grep yields somethings else that's only masked then that's the 
trouble...

Elton 


On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Anupam Kapoor wrote:

> hi all,
> i just completed an emerge sync, and tried to 'emerge -u -p world'
> and i got these errors:
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating world dependencies /
> !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "virtual/linux-sources" have been masked.
> !!!(dependency required by "media-sound/alsa-driver-0.9.8" [ebuild])
> 
> !!! Problem with ebuild media-sound/alsa-driver-0.9.8
> !!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.
> 
> !!! Depgraph creation failed.
> 
> any ideas on how to fix this ?
> 
> thank you
> kind regards
> anupam
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation Hangs... Twice!

[Elton Algera]

Hi,

You can restart the machine with the live cd, try to mount the root fs 
again:

mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/gentoo

in case the root partition is the second partition on your first ide 
drive.

You should then take a look at /mnt/gentoo/var/log/emerge.log This should 
give you some info on which package the compilation crashed...
Maybe you can post it here...

Elton


On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Jason Newquist wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> Great community.  I've been lurking for a while before finally
> deciding to install Gentoo, which I attempted to do yesterday!
> 
> I've attempted to install on my three year-old Dell Dimension 8100
> 1.5Gz P4 + 512MB RAM + 200GB disk & 80GB disk, twice now, and the
> installation has hung on a black screen both times - both last
> night. Before the install, this box had been running Red Hat 9 for a
> few months, with absolutely no problems, so I'm confident that the
> hardware is good.
> 
> First time, I tried stage 1, by the book.  I modified /etc/make.conf
> to specify an i686 (it was i386), but that's it.  It hung during the
> bootstrapping process somewhere.
> 
> Second time, I tried stage 2, by the book, no modififcations to any
> config files.  A couple times during the various compiling process I
> heard a series of five beeps.  By the time I ran into the office to
> check the machine and hit a key to bring it out of screensaver mode,
> whatever it was that had caused that had scrolled off the screen.
> Anyway, hours later, it was still going, so I went to bed.  Woke up
> this morning, and poof - black screen, frozen.
> 
> I simply turned the box off.  Is there anything I can do at this
> point to diagnose the problem?  Would throwing my hands in the air
> and going with stage3 be admitting defeat?  Are there Dell-specific
> things that I somehow missed in the FAQs?  Should I have done
> something to my config files at stage1 and stage2 - perhaps some
> kernel option or whatever?
> 
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[gentoo-user] Installation Hangs... Twice!

[Jason Newquist]

Hey,

Great community.  I've been lurking for a while before finally
deciding to install Gentoo, which I attempted to do yesterday!

I've attempted to install on my three year-old Dell Dimension 8100
1.5Gz P4 + 512MB RAM + 200GB disk & 80GB disk, twice now, and the
installation has hung on a black screen both times - both last
night. Before the install, this box had been running Red Hat 9 for a
few months, with absolutely no problems, so I'm confident that the
hardware is good.

First time, I tried stage 1, by the book.  I modified /etc/make.conf
to specify an i686 (it was i386), but that's it.  It hung during the
bootstrapping process somewhere.

Second time, I tried stage 2, by the book, no modififcations to any
config files.  A couple times during the various compiling process I
heard a series of five beeps.  By the time I ran into the office to
check the machine and hit a key to bring it out of screensaver mode,
whatever it was that had caused that had scrolled off the screen.
Anyway, hours later, it was still going, so I went to bed.  Woke up
this morning, and poof - black screen, frozen.

I simply turned the box off.  Is there anything I can do at this
point to diagnose the problem?  Would throwing my hands in the air
and going with stage3 be admitting defeat?  Are there Dell-specific
things that I somehow missed in the FAQs?  Should I have done
something to my config files at stage1 and stage2 - perhaps some
kernel option or whatever?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Questions from a Debian User

[Timo Boettcher]

Hi John,


* John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Friday, December 5, 2003, 5:24:43 PM:

> 2. I'm a little confused about the nature of a released distribution
> and supported architectures.

> My main reason for interest in Gentoo is to run it on my Alpha --
> these machines benefit more significantly from optimizations than
> PCs tend to. Some of the online docs say that Alpha is a "supported"
> architecture; yet the only installation CDs for them are in
> "experimental". That gives me pause when considering using Gentoo on
> Alpha for critical work. Is that pause justified?
I wouldn't think so, but that depends on view of "critical".

> Similarly, does one generally track the "stable" distribution by
> setting ARCH="x86" instead of ARCH="~x86"? If so, are security
> updates pushed to the stable distribution as well? I observed that,
> following the manual for building my kernel, gentoo-sources fetched
> a fairly old (2.4.20) kernel -- one that may have several security
> holes (though there were so many patches to it, it was hard to
> evaluate).
gentoo-sources (when you fetch it now) has many patches, including the
one 2.4.23 got first for the hole that was used to root the debian boxes.
If you look at security (and you should!) subscribe to
gentoo-announce, you'll read there which holes are out and what to do
to fix them.

> 3. How do I enable kdm?

> I emerge'd kde, but found no /etc/init.d/ script for kdm to use with
> rc-update.

Have a look at the bottom end of /etc/rc.conf
# What display manager do you use ?  [ xdm | gdm | kdm | elogin | entrance ]
#DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"


> 5. As I work more on the system, I get more and more errors like the
> following from emerge:

>  * Caching service dependencies...[ ok ]
> >>> Auto-cleaning packages ...
> !!! Invalid db entry:
try a
  mv /var/cache/edb/dep /var/cache/edb/dep.orig && emerge regen
that will regenerate you dependency cache. (it'll take some time,
though)


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[gentoo-user] failed to generat dependacies

[Anupam Kapoor]

hi all,
i just completed an emerge sync, and tried to 'emerge -u -p world'
and i got these errors:

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies /
!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy "virtual/linux-sources" have been masked.
!!!(dependency required by "media-sound/alsa-driver-0.9.8" [ebuild])

!!! Problem with ebuild media-sound/alsa-driver-0.9.8
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.

!!! Depgraph creation failed.

any ideas on how to fix this ?

thank you
kind regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] broken portage or what ?

[John Ziniti]

Spider wrote:
Filesystem errors.  Really, this looks like bad magic in your
filesystem.
I'll second what Spider says and add that I was having similar
behavior with a dying hard-drive.  You could be having hardware
problems (my drive would make an audible and repetitive "clicking"
noise reminiscent of the JAZ drive's click of death).
HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Questions from a Debian User

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:24:43 -0600
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I've been a Debian user for many years and am trying out Gentoo this
> week.  I've found a lot of information online -- thanks -- but I am
> left with some questions.
> 
> 1. How can I ensure that my Gentoo system has only Free software?
> 
> I was somewhat surprised and alarmed to find that "emerge kde" wanted
> to install Motif, which is generally considered non-free.  I observed
> that the ebuild files in the portage directory do contain a "LICENSE="
> line, but I couldn't figure out how to instruct emerge to
> allow/disallow given licenses.


Currently you cant, see last weeks big flameage in -dev for possible
solutions, reasoning and whatnot.  They should be google-able. (hint,
ACCEPT_LICENSE  is a nice searchword for google )



> 2. I'm a little confused about the nature of a released distribution
> and supported architectures.
> 
> My main reason for interest in Gentoo is to run it on my Alpha --
> these machines benefit more significantly from optimizations than PCs
> tend to. Some of the online docs say that Alpha is a "supported"
> architecture; yet the only installation CDs for them are in
> "experimental".  That gives me pause when considering using Gentoo on
> Alpha for critical work. Is that pause justified?


Not too sure, I think it may be that the -installation media- is
experimental (its harder to produce the install cd's tha work on all
hardware than to create the distribution, in general. )

However installation media is just that, media.  And you can choose to
use "whatever media you want"  if you are inclined.   I'd suggest asking
somone who owns an alpha in this case, rather than on -user (try the
alpha list ;)



> 
> Similarly, does one generally track the "stable" distribution by
> setting ARCH="x86" instead of ARCH="~x86"?  If so, are security
> updates pushed to the stable distribution as well?  I observed that,
> following the manual for building my kernel, gentoo-sources fetched a
> fairly old(2.4.20) kernel -- one that may have several security holes
> (though there were so many patches to it, it was hard to evaluate).


Actually for x86 it is 
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" instead of "x86",  the testing is for the ebuild,
not for the software, and is a necessary process to avoid interaction
problems in wider systems.   Builds are regularly retagged as "x86"
after a period of no obvious bugs, reports, or just from being in use
thoroughly. (there has been a voting page where "this works for me" ,
but that infrastructure was lost and is in planning stage for revival)


Security updates are also tagged as stable (for all arches , x86, alpha,
sparc.. .you name it) where necessary to be updateable.

So far, one big difference with debian is that we do not as of yet
provide a "frozen solid" tree, but work with as single one, thats tagged
differently to recognize status on different arches.  


 
> 3. How do I enable kdm?
> 
> I emerge'd kde, but found no /etc/init.d/ script for kdm to use with
> rc-update.

rc-update add xdm default, look in /etc/rc.conf for selection of wich DM
you want.


 
> 4. What happens if I add "sandbox" to features in /etc/make.conf? 
> That sounds like a feature I'd like, but none of the manpages I looked
> at would explain what it does.

all builds will be sandboxed, which is an LD_PRELOAD hack for glibc that
prevents write operations to other parts of the filesystem.  its mainly
used for development purpouses, but doesn't affect adversively to add
it.  (try "sandbox" and do some write work fex, it will start a new
shell with limitations )



> 5. As I work more on the system, I get more and more errors like the
> following from emerge:
> 
> 
>  * Caching service dependencies...
> [ ok ]
> >>> Auto-cleaning packages ...
> !!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd


> !!! Couldn't find match for dev-perl/libvorbis-perl
> !!! Couldn't find match for media-libs/glut
> !!! Couldn't find match for media-libs/xvid
> !!! Couldn't find match for media-libs/divx4linux
> !!! Couldn't find match for media-libs/libmikmod
> !!! Couldn't find match for media-sound/cdparanoia
> 
> >>> No outdated packages were found on your system.
> 


Not serious, i haven't found the real source here, but its a lockfile
that doesn't go away after devfsd.  The "couldn't find match" are simply
messages stating that it cannot uninstall a previous version, because
none was installed.

hope I've clarified things.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Questions from a Debian User

[Sven Vermeulen]

On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 10:24:43AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> 1. How can I ensure that my Gentoo system has only Free software?
[...]

This is being worked on. However, due to the recent security issues, the
development of ACCEPT_LICENSES has been pushed back in favor of signed
ebuilds/e-classes/...

See the threads on "License Checking" and "Gentoo Internal Structure" on
gentoo-dev [1].

> 2. I'm a little confused about the nature of a released distribution and
> supported architectures.
> 
> My main reason for interest in Gentoo is to run it on my Alpha -- these
> machines benefit more significantly from optimizations than PCs tend to.
> Some of the online docs say that Alpha is a "supported" architecture;
> yet the only installation CDs for them are in "experimental".  That
> gives me pause when considering using Gentoo on Alpha for critical work.
> Is that pause justified?

At Gentoo there is a distinction between the installation and the running
aspect of the distribution. The Alpha installation CDs are in experimental,
but once installed the fact that you installed from an "experimental" LiveCD
or not is completely unrelated.

> Similarly, does one generally track the "stable" distribution by setting
> ARCH="x86" instead of ARCH="~x86"?  If so, are security updates pushed
> to the stable distribution as well?  I observed that, following the
> manual for building my kernel, gentoo-sources fetched a fairly old
> (2.4.20) kernel -- one that may have several security holes (though
> there were so many patches to it, it was hard to evaluate).

In your case, "alpha" would be appropriate. Security updates are
immediately pushed in ARCH as well as in ~ARCH. The gentoo-sources ebuild in
particular has been patched for the recent brk()-flaws.

You can run "emerge -pl gentoo-sources" to view the ChangeLog.

> 3. How do I enable kdm?
> 
> I emerge'd kde, but found no /etc/init.d/ script for kdm to use with
> rc-update.

You have to add "xdm" to the default runlevel, and edit /etc/rc.conf so that
"kdm" is used for the graphical login.

A nice document is http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/desktop.xml, which describes
this too.

> 4. What happens if I add "sandbox" to features in /etc/make.conf?  That
> sounds like a feature I'd like, but none of the manpages I looked at
> would explain what it does.

It is activated by default. Removing it is very dangerous :)

> 5. As I work more on the system, I get more and more errors like the
> following from emerge:
[...]

I personally haven't encountered this yet, but you might want to check up on
the Gentoo forums [2].

Wkr,
Sven Vermeulen

[1] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel
[2] http://forums.gentoo.org

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[gentoo-user] like korganizer in Gnome ?

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Hi

I want to use any organizer in gnome , is there any program like 
korganizer in gnome ? dont say to me "Use evolution" because it is very 
slow and it's don't support non-English very well

Any help ?

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo Questions from a Debian User

[John Goerzen]

Hello,

I've been a Debian user for many years and am trying out Gentoo this
week.  I've found a lot of information online -- thanks -- but I am left
with some questions.

1. How can I ensure that my Gentoo system has only Free software?

I was somewhat surprised and alarmed to find that "emerge kde" wanted to
install Motif, which is generally considered non-free.  I observed that
the ebuild files in the portage directory do contain a "LICENSE=" line,
but I couldn't figure out how to instruct emerge to allow/disallow given
licenses.

It would be great to have something like USE so I could say
LICENSES="GPL BSD -BSD_ADVERTISING".

2. I'm a little confused about the nature of a released distribution and
supported architectures.

My main reason for interest in Gentoo is to run it on my Alpha -- these
machines benefit more significantly from optimizations than PCs tend to.
Some of the online docs say that Alpha is a "supported" architecture;
yet the only installation CDs for them are in "experimental".  That
gives me pause when considering using Gentoo on Alpha for critical work.
Is that pause justified?

Similarly, does one generally track the "stable" distribution by setting
ARCH="x86" instead of ARCH="~x86"?  If so, are security updates pushed
to the stable distribution as well?  I observed that, following the
manual for building my kernel, gentoo-sources fetched a fairly old
(2.4.20) kernel -- one that may have several security holes (though
there were so many patches to it, it was hard to evaluate).

3. How do I enable kdm?

I emerge'd kde, but found no /etc/init.d/ script for kdm to use with
rc-update.

4. What happens if I add "sandbox" to features in /etc/make.conf?  That
sounds like a feature I'd like, but none of the manpages I looked at
would explain what it does.

5. As I work more on the system, I get more and more errors like the
following from emerge:


 * Caching service dependencies...[ ok ]
>>> Auto-cleaning packages ...
!!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: 
/var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid 
db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: 
/var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid 
db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: 
/var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid 
db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: 
/var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid 
db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd!!! Invalid db entry: /var/db/pkg/*sys-fs/devfsd
!!! Couldn't find match for dev-perl/libvorbis-perl

!!! Couldn't find match for media-libs/glut

!!! Couldn't find match for media-libs/xvid

!!! Couldn't find match for media-libs/divx4linux

!!! Couldn't find match for media-libs/libmikmod

!!! Couldn't find match for media-sound/cdparanoia

>>> No outdated packages were found on your system.


 * Regenerating GNU info directory index...
 * Processed 54 info files.

The above was from emerge -b kde.  What can I do about this, and is it
serious?

Thanks,
John Goerzen


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