[gentoo-user] Using Xine to play backed up DVD's

2004-01-24 Thread Tom Eastman
Hi All,

If I have a DVD backed up to my hard drive (using 'vobcopy -m').  Is it 
possible to use Xine to play it?

For example, with mplayer you would say 'mplayer -dvd-device PATH dvd://1' or 
some such, but mplayer doesn't handle DVD menus and many of the special 
features.

I'd like to be able to do the same thing with Xine since it handles the menus 
and stuff so well.

Any ideas?

Tom


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge maxima

2004-01-24 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 01/23/04 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment:

 (Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:06:40 +0100)
 And Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

   Benoit Cosandey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thus spake Jean Magnan de Bornier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
   try to emerge maxima-5.9.0-r2
   
   I am away from my internet connection now (on that machine where the
   problem appears), and the version I have downloaded is maxima-5.9.0. I
   will have to wait till january for any new download.
   
   by giving the whole path: emerge
   /usr/portage/sci-apps/maxima/maxima-5.9.0-r2 or something (sorry, not in
   front of gentoo ATM)
   
   Giving the full path with  maxima-5.9.0 leads to the same error message.
   
 
  Hi, hopefully to the list now:
  
  emerge maxima will emerge maxima 5.9.0, which does not emerge right for
  me. but :
  emerge /usr/portage/app-sci/maxima/maxima-5.9.0-r2.ebuild emerge the
  second to last maxima build, which does compile and install for me.
 
  [ ...]
  Yes,it *worked*!
  Thanks

 `emerge /path/to/ebuild` is discouraged by the gentoo people, because it does
 awful things to the portage - I don't remember what exactly right now.

Would be great to know more about it! 


 `emerge =maxima-5.9.0-r2` should work in your case, and is said to be
safe.

I'll try that next time, thanks,

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[gentoo-user] bootsplash, help me...

2004-01-24 Thread Tianran Chen
i am so confused by the bootsplash. after grabbing my hair for a few days 
trying to get the bootsplash to work, i am at the edge of giving up. can 
people who already get bootsplash working send me copies of those 
important configuration files? these include:

  kernel's .config
  grub.conf
  initrd (the one generated by /sbin/splash or came with bootsplash) 
  the cfg file used to generate the initrd
  dmesg will perhaps give me great help too.

i will be really appreciate if you can send any of those copies to:

  list at chentianran dot net.
  (replace 'at' with @, and 'dot' with .)

also, did anyone used kernel-2.4.22-gentoo-r5? is patch need for this 
package? did anyone get it to work on ATI Radeon Mobility R6?




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[gentoo-user] xine (audio) and jack

2004-01-24 Thread Krikket
Basic problem:

I have no sound on xine.  Fresh install from freshly repartitioned
hard-drives, the whole works.

The error I'm getting is:

libmad: ALERT input buffer too small (2279 bytes, 0 avail)!
audio_alsa_out: snd_pcm_open() of front failed: Invalid argument
audio_alsa_out:  check if another program don't already use PCM 

(Which then repeats ad infinitum, or until the video ends, which ever
comes first)


So I start thinking of other ways I've gotten around other audio problems
with this computer:  JACK.  I see it's even in portage.  Woot!

Only when I try to emerge that package, I get:

 Calculating dependencies
 !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy jack have been masked.

 !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.


Erm?  Okay.  So I try 'USE=~i386 emerge jack' to see if that helps.
Same result.

Anyone know what's going on here?

(Damn...  And so close to having the system at the point of where I want
it...)

Krikket


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts, Region settings, and CD/DVD questions

2004-01-24 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Krikket wrote:
First,  I now have my new fresh Gentoo install up and running, with many
thanks going to people here.
I've set a KOI8R console font, so I can read nice cyrillic characters on
file-names and stuff.  I've set the 8x16 font.  (I had the 8x8 font set
during the initial install, until I got the gui going, so things wouldn't
scoll off the screen so quickly!)
But now I find that just about every font in Gentoo is *slightly* too
small for me to read.  Switching back from the 8x8 to 8x16 font didn't
make a whit's bit of difference, so I'm assuming gnome/kde pull their
fonts from somewhere besides rc.conf.
Yes, XFree86 uses different fonts/mechanism.


If someone could point me at the file I need to change to give me slightly
larger fonts across the board, it will be extremely appreciated!
Measure your display's horizontal and vertical dimensions in millimeters.
Open /etc/X11/XFree86config[-4] in your favorite text editor
and  add this line to Section Monitor:
	DisplaySize  horizontal-size-in-mm  vertical-size-in-mm

One other regional setting problem that I'm having is at some point during
the istall I was asked if I wanted to enter a code for the country
(region) and language.  Not knowing what data it wanted, other than two
two letter codes seperated by a '_', I guessed and entered 'us_us' as my
default.  I guessed wrong.  It probably should have been 'en_us' or
'us_en' or some-such.  Going over the documentation again, I can't seem to
find where I stumbled across this.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to
where I should look?
If u like to see which locales are supported, run this:

qpkg -l glibc | grep locale | less

So u had to put en_US  :-)

(Otherwise, most applications attempt to start things, produce an error,
and then go back to the default, which is what it should have been using
in the first place...)
The final problem with the install, and then I can say that my first
Gentoo install is complete...
CD-ROMs and CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo drives.

Is there a how-to somewhere out there, so I can get these devices working?
My system acknowleges the CD-ROM, but won't allow a user to mount
anything.  If I try to su, I get more errors, but I'm getting either
mount point does not exist or can't find ... in /fstab or mtab,  Part
of the problem, I'm sure, is that I'm not using the right mount-point, but
I don't know what I should be doing here...  Therefore the howto request.
man mount   is your friend

I see, u started with linux yesterday, and all training u like to
get from ML. It's not a good idea ...
it'll take decades then :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts, Region settings, and CD/DVD questions

2004-01-24 Thread Krikket
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
 Krikket wrote:
  First,  I now have my new fresh Gentoo install up and running, with many
  thanks going to people here.
 
  I've set a KOI8R console font, so I can read nice cyrillic characters on
  file-names and stuff.  I've set the 8x16 font.  (I had the 8x8 font set
  during the initial install, until I got the gui going, so things wouldn't
  scoll off the screen so quickly!)
 
  But now I find that just about every font in Gentoo is *slightly* too
  small for me to read.  Switching back from the 8x8 to 8x16 font didn't
  make a whit's bit of difference, so I'm assuming gnome/kde pull their
  fonts from somewhere besides rc.conf.
 

 Yes, XFree86 uses different fonts/mechanism.

Good to know...

  If someone could point me at the file I need to change to give me slightly
  larger fonts across the board, it will be extremely appreciated!
 

 Measure your display's horizontal and vertical dimensions in millimeters.
 Open /etc/X11/XFree86config[-4] in your favorite text editor
 and  add this line to Section Monitor:

   DisplaySize  horizontal-size-in-mm  vertical-size-in-mm

Thank you!  Things aren't quite as myopic now, but with some tweaking, I
may be able to improve things...

  One other regional setting problem that I'm having is at some point during
  the istall I was asked if I wanted to enter a code for the country
  (region) and language.  Not knowing what data it wanted, other than two
  two letter codes seperated by a '_', I guessed and entered 'us_us' as my
  default.  I guessed wrong.  It probably should have been 'en_us' or
  'us_en' or some-such.  Going over the documentation again, I can't seem to
  find where I stumbled across this.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to
  where I should look?

 If u like to see which locales are supported, run this:

 qpkg -l glibc | grep locale | less

 So u had to put en_US  :-)

So I did.  But what's qpkg and how do you get it?  I tried an emerge and
came up with bupkis, so I double-checked with the portage tree on
gentoo.org, and similarly came up with nada.

Any idea what file I need to edit?

  My system acknowleges the CD-ROM, but won't allow a user to mount
  anything.  If I try to su, I get more errors, but I'm getting either
  mount point does not exist or can't find ... in /fstab or mtab,  Part
  of the problem, I'm sure, is that I'm not using the right mount-point, but
  I don't know what I should be doing here...  Therefore the howto request.

 man mount   is your friend

 I see, u started with linux yesterday, and all training u like to
 get from ML. It's not a good idea ...
 it'll take decades then :-)

Yes, man mount is your friend.  I even looked there.  And believe it or
not, I'm not trying to get all my knowledge from this list, but when the
basics fail me, I don't know where else to turn.  If you have additional
suggestions, I'm more willing to listen!  That was even what I was (and
still am) *asking* for, because I don't see anything on explaining Gentoo
and CD/DVD stuff.

One thing that I have learned from playing around with different linuxes
is that while the man files tend to be consistant across the varients, the
details sometimes change.  And it's those details that are currently
biting me in the ass.

Trust me on this one.  If I was tying to get all my data from here (or
even if this was the first place I turned to) my questions would be
*vastly* different.

Krikket


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Re: [gentoo-user] Searching OpenOffice documents

2004-01-24 Thread Norberto Bensa
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 grep textdesired *

E Aren't OOo Documents gzip'ed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Xine to play backed up DVD's

2004-01-24 Thread Jakub Krajcovic
Wow man, mplayers IMHO does handle dvd menus -- i can't tell you how to do it from 
within the console, but with the gui, its obvious :-). (else try man mplayer). But i 
assure you - it does handle all the dvd-extra stuff you'll ever need.

If I have a DVD backed up to my hard drive (using 'vobcopy -m').  Is it
 possible to use Xine to play it?

It should be. And if it can't be played as a whole dvd, then select the source in xine 
as a file and select the first .vob file and then it will either play the whole movie, 
or you'll have to select a vob file everytime the previous one finished playing...

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 20:19:03 +1300
Tom Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 If I have a DVD backed up to my hard drive (using 'vobcopy -m').  Is it 
 possible to use Xine to play it?
 
 For example, with mplayer you would say 'mplayer -dvd-device PATH dvd://1' or 
 some such, but mplayer doesn't handle DVD menus and many of the special 
 features.
 
 I'd like to be able to do the same thing with Xine since it handles the menus 
 and stuff so well.
 
 Any ideas?
 
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[gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Jakub Krajcovic
Hi guys, 
I need some recommendation for a nice graphical IDE for C, C++ (these 
two are satisfactory). I have been using kde for some time, and I really got used to 
Kdevelop, but now, i'm off kde and I don't really feel like installing all of the 
kde*stuff to get kdevelop working.

Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?

p.s. I googled for this once all night, but couldn't decide...
p.p.s. If any of you know DEVC++ for windows - then I'm looking for something like 
that...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Tom Wesley
On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 11:35, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 Hi guys, 
 I need some recommendation for a nice graphical IDE for C, C++ (these 
 two are satisfactory). I have been using kde for some time, and I really got used to 
 Kdevelop, but now, i'm off kde and I don't really feel like installing all of the 
 kde*stuff to get kdevelop working.
 
 Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?
 
 p.s. I googled for this once all night, but couldn't decide...
 p.p.s. If any of you know DEVC++ for windows - then I'm looking for something like 
 that...

Have you tried anjuta and glade, its a gtk+2 gui, that can do c and c++.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
Hi guys, 
I need some recommendation for a nice graphical IDE for C, C++ (these 
two are satisfactory). I have been using kde for some time, and I really got used to Kdevelop, but now, i'm off kde and I don't really feel like installing all of the kde*stuff to get kdevelop working.

Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?

p.s. I googled for this once all night, but couldn't decide...
p.p.s. If any of you know DEVC++ for windows - then I'm looking for something like 
that...
I am voting for  eclipse

noro

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts, Region settings, and CD/DVD questions

2004-01-24 Thread Bill Roberts
To get qpkg, emerge gentoolkit.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Compupic

2004-01-24 Thread Jeff Smelser
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On Friday 23 January 2004 08:22 pm, HvR wrote:
 there is a compupic for linux
 or use gqview

 On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 17:38, lukas wrote:
  On Saturday 24 January 2004 02:29, Jeff Smelser wrote:
   I been using compupic for windows, and trying to find the same thing
   for linux.. kview sucks.. ;) Does anyone out there got any ideas??
 
  gtksee is maybe what you are looking for.

I tried compupic for linux, it just segfaulted every time I ran it.. Its a 
very old version, I used it in my redhat days years ago..

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[gentoo-user] Problem emerging python 2.3.3

2004-01-24 Thread Wouter Vanwalleghem
Anyone else having trouble emerge'ing pythong 2.3.3:

emerge -vp python

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.3.3 [2.3.2-r2] +ncurses +gdbm +ssl
+readline +tcltk +berkdb -bootstrap +ipv6 -build -ucs2

Ends with:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/tmp/portage/python-2.3.3/work/Python-2.3.3: ./python -E
./setup.py install \
--prefix=/usr \
--install-scripts=/usr/bin \
--install-platlib=/usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload \
--root=//tmp/portage/python-2.3.3/image/
running install
running build
running build_ext
running build_scripts
running install_lib
creating //tmp/portage/python-2.3.3/image/usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload
copying build/lib.linux-i686-2.3/_testcapi.so -
//tmp/portage/python-2.3.3/image/usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload
error:
//tmp/portage/python-2.3.3/image/usr/lib/python2.3/lib-dynload/_testcapi.so: Function 
not implemented
make: *** [sharedinstall] Error 1

!!! ERROR: dev-lang/python-2.3.3 failed.
!!! Function src_install, Line 124, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)

Anybody have a clue?

TIA

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Re: [gentoo-user] bootsplash, help me...

2004-01-24 Thread ystein Olsen
On Saturday 24 January 2004 09:27, Tianran Chen wrote:
 i am so confused by the bootsplash. after grabbing my hair for a few days
 trying to get the bootsplash to work, i am at the edge of giving up. can
 people who already get bootsplash working send me copies of those
 important configuration files? these include:


This is how I got bootsplash to work:

http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/bootsplash/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Vanh Phom
On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 03:40, Tom Wesley wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 11:35, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
  Hi guys, 
  I need some recommendation for a nice graphical IDE for C, C++ (these 
  two are satisfactory). I have been using kde for some time, and I really got used 
  to Kdevelop, but now, i'm off kde and I don't really feel like installing all of 
  the kde*stuff to get kdevelop working.
  
  Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?
  
  p.s. I googled for this once all night, but couldn't decide...
  p.p.s. If any of you know DEVC++ for windows - then I'm looking for something like 
  that...
 
 Have you tried anjuta and glade, its a gtk+2 gui, that can do c and c++.
 
I'm giving eclipse a try.

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[gentoo-user] Lack of space during emerge

2004-01-24 Thread Xavier - Eresmas
Hi,

I've installed recently my new gentoo. I tried to emerge
mozilla-firebird, but the compilation failed, and I suppose that is
because of lack of space. (df shows that the partition is completely
full...)

My gentoo partition is about 1,5Gb. I will try to give it more space,
but my problem is that I don't know how to delete all the data that the
computer used during the compilation. Is there any option in emerge? Can
I directly erase some directories in /var ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Rust
On Saturday 24 January 2004 01:35 pm, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?

GNU Emacs and XEmacs are the best. The only disadvantage is that, that you 
must learn how to use em for a very long time. But it's worth. With Emacses 
you can control everything, that you do, and you'll get no extra stupid 
files, or other. Many extensions are also availible. Try, und you won't be 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Jakub Krajcovic
You're right on everything, and i have been thinking of learning emacs for a long 
time, but i haven't been able to move my lazy ass and really do it... 

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 15:35:15 +0200
Rust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Saturday 24 January 2004 01:35 pm, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
  Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?
 
 GNU Emacs and XEmacs are the best. The only disadvantage is that, that you 
 must learn how to use em for a very long time. But it's worth. With Emacses 
 you can control everything, that you do, and you'll get no extra stupid 
 files, or other. Many extensions are also availible. Try, und you won't be 
 disappointed!
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Lack of space during emerge

2004-01-24 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Xavier - Eresmas wrote:
My gentoo partition is about 1,5Gb. I will try to give it more space,
but my problem is that I don't know how to delete all the data that the
computer used during the compilation. Is there any option in emerge? Can
I directly erase some directories in /var ?
it's in /var/tmp/portage

u can run safely

rm -r /var/tmp/portage/*

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Przemysaw Macig
W licie z sob, 24-01-2004, godz. 12:45, Norbert Kamenicky pisze: 
 Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
[cut]
  Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?

 I am voting for  eclipse

And I'm voting for Vim!

Regards,
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[gentoo-user] jerky music playback in kde

2004-01-24 Thread Alkis Evlogimenos
I have a resonable fast machine (Athlon XP 2400+) and a well supported sound 
card (Sound Blaster Live!). Software-wise: KDE 3.1.5, 2.6.1-mm5 kernel, arts 
is running with realtime priority (artswrapper setuid root) and play my mp3s 
ogg though juk.

When I play mp3s or oggs though mpg123 or ogg123 the jerkyness goes away so I 
think this is a problem with arts. Anyone experiencing similar problems?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Rust
On Saturday 24 January 2004 03:59 pm, Przemysaw Macig wrote:

 And I'm voting for Vim!

Would you be so kind, tell us please why do you think so? Do you have a big 
experience developing really big projects with Vim?

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[gentoo-user] cvs filesystem ?!

2004-01-24 Thread raptor
hi,

is there a project for a cvs like system... what I think is something like, having 
simulaneously different
states/profiles of my system..

say I boot in my system version A, install packge X,Y,Z.. when I log in my ver B I don 
have them..
but on the other hand they start of a common system and then develop in different 
direction,..
the difference is that they still stay on the same hdd..

also using this system to roll back if after packge installation something goes wrong..

will reiser4 with some plugin be able to do this..

just thinking...

I was thinking of anything else too.. what if we had /etc and other configurations 
under 
CVS control form the start of the gentoo installation.. that would be great.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Compupic

2004-01-24 Thread Alberto Garcia Hierro
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I use kuickshow, included in kdegraphics.

El Sábado, 24 de Enero de 2004 02:29, Jeff Smelser escribió:
 I been using compupic for windows, and trying to find the same thing for
 linux.. kview sucks.. ;) Does anyone out there got any ideas??

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Re: [gentoo-user] cvs filesystem ?!

2004-01-24 Thread Stroller
On Jan 24, 2004, at 2:11 pm, raptor wrote:
is there a project for a cvs like system... what I think is something 
like, having simulaneously different
states/profiles of my system..
I have found the idea of a versioned file-sytem rather appealing, since 
I read about the suggestion in The UNIX HATERS Handbook 
http://www.simson.net/ref/ugh.pdf (see chapter 2, Like Russian 
Roulette with Six Bullets Loaded). I believe I read that some 
operating systems (pre-Unix or in the early 70s) handled file 
versioning automatically. I am not aware of any that versioning 
file-systems in widespread use, however.

You may find http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5976 
interesting.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1.5?

2004-01-24 Thread Jerry McBride
On Friday 23 January 2004 09:00 pm, Jeff Smelser wrote:
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 On Friday 23 January 2004 06:15 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
  Anyone having problems with kde 3.1.5? I've got it on a couple of laptops
  at work, one machine simply locks up solid at random times, the second
  will lockup within... oh maybe 45 minutes of starting kde. Really
  wierd too. No complaints in messages, just dead laptops.
 
  Going back 3.1.4 and all the problems disappear...

 I have noticed mine does it randomly.. I just log into it and kill X.. Its
 running 99%.. I have not figured it out yet


Thanks for the sanity check. I thought I was going nuts at first. Seems pretty 
reproduceable too. I haven't the time to check into why, but I did have the 
time to check my emerge/compile logs... Aside from the normal warnings that 
you get from gcc, there were no errors or anything that would point to a bad 
compile run...

Also, trying the new 3.2.0-rc1 sources SWEET... Eventhough xmms is still 
broken...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Jakub Krajcovic
Vim is for small few-line programs, and / or just editing existing .c files. But it'd 
kill me to use vim for everything. 

Anyway, thank you all for helping me out, i will think about eclipse in the future, 
but i decide to use kdevelop anyway... and honestly - kdevelop 3 is _the_ IDE. And 
after installing kdevelop i realised that it was actually a good thing, because i also 
want k3b. (IMHO no other burning solution can compare to the power of k3b)

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:59:08 +0100
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  Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 [cut]
   Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?
 
  I am voting for  eclipse
 
 And I'm voting for Vim!
 
 Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] New glibc and gnome 2.4.1 unmasked

2004-01-24 Thread Nuckerl Stefan
Yes and those dudes that had problems used nptl, which was dropped as far as
I know, therefore they had probs.


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Subject: [gentoo-user] New glibc and gnome 2.4.1 unmasked


 Whenever there is a HUGE unmasking of 50-100 packages or more, I get
 nervous about doing and emerge -Uun world.  I saw several messages go by
 earlier in the week about problems with the new glibc.

 Have these been resolved?

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Re: [gentoo-user] using keyboard for middle mouse button

2004-01-24 Thread Nuckerl Stefan

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Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:59 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] using keyboard for middle mouse button


 On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Nuckerl Stefan wrote:

Not sure about that, but in case you weren't aware of it, X can fake
the
presence of a three-button mouse (where the two standard buttons
are
pressed simultaneously to emulate the third button).
  
   No, the mouse is a 3-button, but I'd rather not have to reach over to
the
   mouse.
 
  But how do you mark the text then, if you don't use the mouse?
 
  Or are you looking for a solution, copying paste a line in a shell??

 Select once with the mouse.  Then, while typing in a shell (or text
 editor), paste many times with keyboard shortcut.


I think there is already a shortcut for that, I have once seen someone copy
paste lines in a shell just by using keyboard, but don't ask me what those
kombinations are.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] Compupic

2004-01-24 Thread Marc Redmann
Hi Jeff,

 I been using compupic for windows, and trying to find the same thing for 
 linux.. kview sucks.. ;) Does anyone out there got any ideas??

I would suggest gthumb or gqview, these two are quite good, and are
quite similar to compupic for windows.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Przemysaw Macig
W licie z sob, 24-01-2004, godz. 15:04, Rust pisze: 
 On Saturday 24 January 2004 03:59 pm, Przemysaw Macig wrote:
 
  And I'm voting for Vim!
 
 Would you be so kind, tell us please why do you think so?

I gonna tell You why 'I think so':
- I do not need any X-Window system to work with it (but of course I can
- why not? :) )
- fbset 1024x768-100 -a -depth 24 under console and use :split - You can
edit few files at the same time
- highlighting for almost all known languages
- a lot of keyboard shortcuts

- why not? :

 Do you have a big experience developing really big projects with Vim?
Not really. Biggest project I work whit had about 12 files.

Regards,
Przemek
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1.5?

2004-01-24 Thread Nuckerl Stefan
I have been running kde 3.1.5 for several days now, no problems at all. The
machine usually runs 24h with kde started


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 Anyone having problems with kde 3.1.5? I've got it on a couple of laptops
at
 work, one machine simply locks up solid at random times, the second will
 lockup within... oh maybe 45 minutes of starting kde. Really wierd
too.
 No complaints in messages, just dead laptops.

 Going back 3.1.4 and all the problems disappear...


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[gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Aaron Walker
Came home at 3am this morning to find my main desktop machine locked up 
solid...  Rebooted and all of a sudden heard the dreaded clicking of the 
hard drive (a 6month old WDC 80GB).   I was wanting to reinstall Gentoo 
on my main desktop anyways, but this wasn't quite what I had in mind... 

Anyways, I threw a spare hard drive in (identical to the one that died), 
and am in the process of reinstalling Gentoo (on the 3rd different 
machine this week  )

Once I get everything back up and running, I want to start making it a 
habit to back things up on a regular basis.  I was wondering what others 
on this list did for their backups.

I was considering the following:
-  a seperate machine to handle all backup's of the various machines on 
my home LAN
-  buy another 80G and a RAID card and run it in RAID 1

any recommendations?

Thanks,
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RE: [gentoo-user] Flummoxed by fluxbox fonts?

2004-01-24 Thread Wayne Oliver
- -Original Message-
- From: Nicholas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Sent: 23 January 2004 01:38 AM
- 
- Help!  Can anyone tell me what I've done to my fluxbox?
- 
- My fluxbox desktop is devoid of any visible text.  The 
- desktop menu is smaller 
- than the cursor, but still manages to cascade as expected.
- 
- It started when I investigated what 'xfontsel' would do, and 
- I also installed 
- a Hollywood Plus MPEG decoder card (now back in the shop 
- from whence it 
- came).  I can't find any reference to changes either of 
- these actions might 
- have caused (I didn't install any s/w or drivers with the 
- decoder card) so I 
- don't know what has caused this.
- 
- The X login prompt (xdm) appears with text as normal.
- 
- I wondered if fluxbox is displaying the text at 0 height, as 
- the width of each 
- sub-menu is different -- though still very small, so there 
- might be some 
- invisible text.  Maybe it is just the font-metrics that are wrong.
- 
- Changing the theme has no effect on the text.
- 
- I have found some threads which discuss useful things to do 
- with fonts and 
- xfs, but all settings in XF86Config-4, XftConfig etc seem correct.
- 
- Hope someone can point me in the right direction as I can't 
- run any apps under 
- X.
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disable anti aliasing ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] cvs filesystem ?!

2004-01-24 Thread Eric G Ortego


raptor wrote:

hi,

is there a project for a cvs like system... what I think is something like, having 
simulaneously different
states/profiles of my system..
say I boot in my system version A, install packge X,Y,Z.. when I log in my ver B I don 
have them..
but on the other hand they start of a common system and then develop in different 
direction,..
the difference is that they still stay on the same hdd..
also using this system to roll back if after packge installation something goes wrong..

will reiser4 with some plugin be able to do this..

just thinking...

I was thinking of anything else too.. what if we had /etc and other configurations under 
CVS control form the start of the gentoo installation.. that would be great.
 

I'v been reading about subversion, it seems like it could be a good starting point, for what you describe. 
*
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Directories, renames, and file meta-data are versioned.*


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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Gentoo

2004-01-24 Thread Bob White
Andrew,

 First, try using the LiveCD's kernel configuration since you know that works. When
 booted
 from the LiveCD, mount your Gentoo partitions, then do

 mv /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config.bak
 cat /proc/config /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config
 chroot /mnt/gentoo
 source /etc/profile
 env-update
 cd /usr/src/linux
 make dep  make clean  make bzImage
 cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/whatever (make sure your /boot is mounted)

This worked very well to get a bootable kernel, even if it was compiled for a 386.  
With
LVM loaded as a module, it didn't like not being able to mount my various partitions. 
So, I recompiled as a 586 with LVM in the kernel and it booted very well.

I've made a copy of the working kernel and am recompiling as a K6-2/K6-3, with a lot of
the devices removed that I know that I don't have.  When that completes, we'll see 
where
the smoke risesgrin

I've made copies of all the working config, so I can always go back to where I've been.


 If this works, then you know that there was a problem with the kernel you compiled. 
 BTW,
 what did you have CHOST set for in your /etc/make.conf? The default of:

 CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu

 does not work with any of the K6 processors. You have to use:

 CHOST=i586-pc-linux-gnu

It was set to i586.

Thanks for the help!

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Eric G Ortego


Aaron Walker wrote:

Came home at 3am this morning to find my main desktop machine locked 
up solid...  Rebooted and all of a sudden heard the dreaded clicking 
of the hard drive (a 6month old WDC 80GB).   I was wanting to 
reinstall Gentoo on my main desktop anyways, but this wasn't quite 
what I had in mind...
Anyways, I threw a spare hard drive in (identical to the one that 
died), and am in the process of reinstalling Gentoo (on the 3rd 
different machine this week  )

Once I get everything back up and running, I want to start making it a 
habit to back things up on a regular basis.  I was wondering what 
others on this list did for their backups.

I was considering the following:
-  a seperate machine to handle all backup's of the various machines 
on my home LAN
-  buy another 80G and a RAID card and run it in RAID 1

any recommendations?


I'm not recommending it but I have a cron job that emails me reminders 
to backup then I just backup stuff to cdr.  I'm hoping to get evms 
working  and will try the raid way out soon though.

Thanks,
Aaron


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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Alkis Evlogimenos
On Saturday 24 January 2004 09:57 am, Aaron Walker wrote:
 Came home at 3am this morning to find my main desktop machine locked up
 solid...  Rebooted and all of a sudden heard the dreaded clicking of the
 hard drive (a 6month old WDC 80GB).   I was wanting to reinstall Gentoo
 on my main desktop anyways, but this wasn't quite what I had in mind...

 Anyways, I threw a spare hard drive in (identical to the one that died),
 and am in the process of reinstalling Gentoo (on the 3rd different
 machine this week  )

 Once I get everything back up and running, I want to start making it a
 habit to back things up on a regular basis.  I was wondering what others
 on this list did for their backups.

 I was considering the following:
 -  a seperate machine to handle all backup's of the various machines on
 my home LAN

That is a good choice but backing up on a second harddrive will be faster.

 -  buy another 80G and a RAID card and run it in RAID 1

a RAID 1 array will protect against hardware failures but not filesystem 
errors.

What I have right now is a script running daily and backups everything (using 
cpio piped though gzip) except temp directories and media files. I also added 
some estimates on free space so that the earliest backup is removed if it is 
estimated that the remaining space is not enough. This way I maximize the 
number of previous daily backups.

I hope this helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Gentoo

2004-01-24 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Bob White wrote:
Andrew,


First, try using the LiveCD's kernel configuration since you know that works. When
booted
from the LiveCD, mount your Gentoo partitions, then do
mv /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config.bak
cat /proc/config /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config
chroot /mnt/gentoo
source /etc/profile
env-update
cd /usr/src/linux
make dep  make clean  make bzImage
cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/whatever (make sure your /boot is mounted)


This worked very well to get a bootable kernel, even if it was compiled for a 386.  With
LVM loaded as a module, it didn't like not being able to mount my various partitions. 
So, I recompiled as a 586 with LVM in the kernel and it booted very well.

I've made a copy of the working kernel and am recompiling as a K6-2/K6-3, with a lot of
the devices removed that I know that I don't have.  When that completes, we'll see 
where
the smoke risesgrin
I've made copies of all the working config, so I can always go back to where I've been.


If this works, then you know that there was a problem with the kernel you compiled. 
BTW,
what did you have CHOST set for in your /etc/make.conf? The default of:
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu

does not work with any of the K6 processors. You have to use:

CHOST=i586-pc-linux-gnu


It was set to i586.

Thanks for the help!
No problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Andrej Kacian
(Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:10:09 -0600)
And Alkis Evlogimenos [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 What I have right now is a script running daily and backups everything (using 
  cpio piped though gzip) except temp directories and media files. I also added
  
  some estimates on free space so that the earliest backup is removed if it is 
  estimated that the remaining space is not enough. This way I maximize the 
  number of previous daily backups.

Approximately how much space does one daily backup use there?

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Alkis Evlogimenos
On Saturday 24 January 2004 10:18 am, Andrej Kacian wrote:
 (Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:10:09 -0600)

 And Alkis Evlogimenos [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
  What I have right now is a script running daily and backups everything
  (using cpio piped though gzip) except temp directories and media files. I
  also added
 
   some estimates on free space so that the earliest backup is removed if
  it is estimated that the remaining space is not enough. This way I
  maximize the number of previous daily backups.

 Approximately how much space does one daily backup use there?

7 gigs and it takes about 45 minutes to be created.

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Re: [gentoo-user] bootsplash, help me...

2004-01-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 05:17, Øystein Olsen wrote:
 On Saturday 24 January 2004 09:27, Tianran Chen wrote:
  i am so confused by the bootsplash. after grabbing my hair for a few days
  trying to get the bootsplash to work, i am at the edge of giving up. can
  people who already get bootsplash working send me copies of those
  important configuration files? these include:
 
 
 This is how I got bootsplash to work:
 
 http://folk.uio.no/oeysteio/bootsplash/

Hi,
   I went through and followed your excellent set of instructions this
morning. Thanks for putting that together. I tried 2.4.22-r5 as that was
the newest on my machine. Unfortunately the kernel is having some oops
problems while loading drivers, so I need to figure that one out. I may
back up and try 2.4.22-r4 like you used. I run 2.4.22-r2 right now.

   One problem I had was that I did not find the 'Use splash screen
instead of boot logo' option in 2.4.22-r5. I understand from your
instructions that this should be on the Frame buffer support page, but I
don't see it. (Probably blind...) ;-)

   Anyway, nice page. I did get a frame buffer boot happening instead of
the more boring normal boot, but then had these oops problems and had to
reboot.

Cheers,
Mark


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[gentoo-user] ACPI support in kernel?

2004-01-24 Thread Jan Drugowitsch
hi everyone,
after upgrading from kernel 2.4.20-gentoo-r8 to 2.4.22-gentoo-r5 the acpi 
support doesn't seem to work anymore. the init script for acpid reports that 
ACPI support has not been compiled into the kernel (/proc/acpi is missing). 
that, however, seems strange to me as it should be in the kernel as can be 
seen from then configuration below. i've already checked if i'm using the 
correct kernel and there's no doubt about that. any ideas?
tia, jan

#
# ACPI Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_AC is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_RELAXED_AML is not set


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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread lukas
On Saturday 24 January 2004 16:57, Aaron Walker wrote:

 I was considering the following:
 -  a seperate machine to handle all backup's of the various machines
 on my home LAN
 -  buy another 80G and a RAID card and run it in RAID 1

 any recommendations?

I'm using a HP DDS3 DAT-tape (12GB native) and a DEC TZ87 DLT-tape (10GB native)
for my backups.
2 Jears ago I bought both drives for a very low price.
Have a look at e-bay. Sometimes you can get there tape-drives for low
prices.
But if you want to backup 80GB at once, it's propably cheaper to use IDE-RAID. :)

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

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please have a look at http://www.bacula.org/

http://www.bacula.org/html-manual/state.html

here's one of the features:
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automated for Linux systems and partially automated for Solaris. See Disaster 
Recovery Using Bacula

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Glenn English
On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 09:42, Alkis Evlogimenos wrote:
 On Saturday 24 January 2004 10:18 am, Andrej Kacian wrote:
  (Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:10:09 -0600)
 
  And Alkis Evlogimenos [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   What I have right now is a script running daily and backups everything
   (using cpio piped though gzip) except temp directories and media files. I
   also added
  
some estimates on free space so that the earliest backup is removed if
   it is estimated that the remaining space is not enough. This way I
   maximize the number of previous daily backups.
 
  Approximately how much space does one daily backup use there?
 
 7 gigs and it takes about 45 minutes to be created.

I'm using amanda. A cron job runs it and sends me email about what
happened. Then I change the tape.

I've been watching this thread, and Amanda seems an obvious solution. It
takes a little doing to get it set up, but hey, this is *nix. 

Is there a problem with Amanda that I don't know about?

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[gentoo-user] Problem installing arts

2004-01-24 Thread Phil Barnett

I get the following error message when re-emerging arts. Anyone know what I'm 
missing?

Thanks.

*

checking if STL implementation is SGI like... no
checking if STL implementation is HP like... no
configure: error: no known STL type found - did you forget to install 
libstdc++-devel ?
died running ./configure, kde_src_compile:configure
 *
 * Your KDE program installation died while running the configure script
 *
 * If the error died during the check for Qt, and you have Qt installed, the 
problem
 * is most likely due to your nvidia drivers being configured improperly.
 *
 * Search forums.gentoo.org for help in setting them up properly.  This is NOT 
a kde bug.
 *

!!! ERROR: kde-base/arts-1.1.5 failed.
!!! Function configure_die, Line 154, Exitcode 0
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[gentoo-user] mod_php and freetype

2004-01-24 Thread Robert Szentmihalyi
Hi,

is there any portage-conforming way of making mod_php-4.3.3-r3 use freetype1 
instead of freetype2 (apart from compiling mod_php by hand, of course)?
The reason why I am asking this question is because I want to run the Typo3 
Content Management System on a Gentoo server and the rendered buttons do not 
quite look as expected with freetype2.

TIA,
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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Alkis Evlogimenos
On Saturday 24 January 2004 11:41 am, Glenn English wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 09:42, Alkis Evlogimenos wrote:
  On Saturday 24 January 2004 10:18 am, Andrej Kacian wrote:
   (Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:10:09 -0600)
  
   And Alkis Evlogimenos [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
What I have right now is a script running daily and backups
everything (using cpio piped though gzip) except temp directories and
media files. I also added
   
 some estimates on free space so that the earliest backup is removed
if it is estimated that the remaining space is not enough. This way I
maximize the number of previous daily backups.
  
   Approximately how much space does one daily backup use there?
 
  7 gigs and it takes about 45 minutes to be created.

 I'm using amanda. A cron job runs it and sends me email about what
 happened. Then I change the tape.

 I've been watching this thread, and Amanda seems an obvious solution. It
 takes a little doing to get it set up, but hey, this is *nix.

 Is there a problem with Amanda that I don't know about?

Does Amanda support backing up on the same machine on a different mount? When 
I was reading about backup applications amanda seemed like an overkill.

Also my network is wireless so backing up over it is not an option :-)

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[gentoo-user] weird freezing problem

2004-01-24 Thread Andrew Gaffney
I have a custom-built box (dual Athlon MP 2200+, 1GB DDR) running Gentoo Linux. I'm having 
a weird problem where the server will stop responding to network traffic for 10-20 seconds 
every once in a while, sometimes 4 or 5 times in a day. There are no errors in 'dmesg', no 
dropped packets or errors for the network interface, not running low on RAM (471984k free, 
swap not touched), CPU is 98% idle. Its done this with 2 different network switches: one 
Linksys and one Netgear. The cable has also been changed. Its also not overheating 
(checked with lm_sensors). Does anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Roy Kidder
I use Arkeia (www.arkeia.com). The light (free) version allows you to
backup three hosts (including the one which the tape drive is attached
to). It recognizes a variety of tape drives (including my DLT), but it
won't do anything fancy such as libraries or silos. You have to pay a
bunch of money to get those features.

But it backs up and restores nicely. It has some nice features, like
scheduled backups, emailing of reports, redirected restores, etc. I have
it working with two Linux boxes (one of which hosts the tape drive) and
one Microsoft box. It backs them up automatically, appending to the
current tape. When it needs a new tape, it generates an email asking for
one.

Roy

Aaron Walker said:
 Came home at 3am this morning to find my main desktop machine locked up
 solid...  Rebooted and all of a sudden heard the dreaded clicking of the
 hard drive (a 6month old WDC 80GB).   I was wanting to reinstall Gentoo
 on my main desktop anyways, but this wasn't quite what I had in mind...

 Anyways, I threw a spare hard drive in (identical to the one that died),
 and am in the process of reinstalling Gentoo (on the 3rd different
 machine this week  )

 Once I get everything back up and running, I want to start making it a
 habit to back things up on a regular basis.  I was wondering what others
 on this list did for their backups.

 I was considering the following:
 -  a seperate machine to handle all backup's of the various machines on
 my home LAN
 -  buy another 80G and a RAID card and run it in RAID 1

 any recommendations?

 Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Glenn English
On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 11:11, Alkis Evlogimenos wrote:

 Does Amanda support backing up on the same machine on a different mount? 

I'm not sure what the same machine on a different mount means. Amanda
is a client-server system. The machine running the server (doing the
backup) also runs the client and is backed up by the server connecting
to the client as localhost.

AFAIK it will backup anything you ask it to. I think the minimum
granularity is an entire directory, but I've never tried to backup a
single file, so I could be wrong.

 When 
 I was reading about backup applications amanda seemed like an overkill.

It certainly may be -- there's lots of 'stuff' going on. But if I were
going to back up just one machine, I think it's what I'd use. Once it's
set up, Amanda keeps track of everything and writes the backups with
dump or GNU tar so you can restore even if Amanda isn't around.

 Also my network is wireless so backing up over it is not an option :-)

Depends on how much trouble you want to go to.


Much more authoritative info is at http://www.amanda.org and in the
O'Reilly book: Unix Backup  Recovery.

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Alkis Evlogimenos
On Saturday 24 January 2004 01:00 pm, Glenn English wrote:
 I'm not sure what the same machine on a different mount means.

hda mounted at /
hdc mounted at /home
hde mounted at /backup

I want to backup / and /home on /backup and I am going to use only one machine 
(so I guess in amanda's terms the machine will be both a client and a 
server).

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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync problem

2004-01-24 Thread Collins Richey
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:02:48 -0700
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 || On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:53:36 -0700
 || Dan Egli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ||
 ||
 ||Collins Richey wrote:
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||Nothing has changed on my end (portage, rsync, commuincations, etc.)
 |in a long time, but rsync is totally dead - always times out.  I've
 |tried disabling the firewall (stop shorewall, then shorewall clear), but
 |I get the same results without the firewall.
 ||
 ||I'm starting to look at a tcpdump.
 ||
 ||Can anyone shed any light on this???
 ||
 ||I'm on cable with a router and dhcp, if that makes any difference.
 |emerge pkg, email, browser, etc. all work normally.  I tried
 |re-emerging rsync.  The problem exists for any and all rsync mirrors.
 ||
 ||
 ||
 ||Of my head sounds like your cable provider started blocking the rsync
 ||port. Simple test would be to telnet to one of the rsync mirrors into
 ||their rsync port. If you are able to connect then the port is not
 ||blocked. If you cannot connect then you are likely looking at a blocked
 ||TCP Port. A lot of Cable ISPs do that. My Cable ISP blocks all the
 ||netbios ports, which would not be so bad if I did not occasionally need
 ||to access my Win32 machines.
 ||
 ||--- Dan
 ||
 ||p.s. if you don't recall the port, you can always just telnet host
 |rsync.
 ||
 ||
 ||
 || I'm thinking that you are correct.  I get the same behavior from the
 |other gentoo machine on my local net.  This is apparently a recent
 |change by comcast.
 ||
 || So, this now brings up the related question: what are the implications
 |of only doing emerge-webrsync to sync the portage tree?
 ||
 |
 |Must be your local branch because I'm on comcast too and I rsync just
 |fine. I have no idea on the implications of emerge-webrsync. Someone ele
 |would be better for that. I'm still new to gentoo.
 |
 |
 |
 | Dan,
 |
 | Can you let me know where you are located.  I want to call comcast,
 but I would like to have all my ducks in a row first.  It could be that
 they are rolling out a major change and you, too, will be affected.
 |
 | Fortunately, emerge-webrsync works, so I'm not totally high and dry.
 |
 |
 I'm in Holladay, UT. Call it Salt Lake City. After all, we were a part
 of SLC till about 2 years ago when a county vote determined we would
 form an independant city (dumb idea if you ask me, but hey, I cannot
 overrule the majority vote).
 

Whatever the problem was, it is now gone!  Three days of rsync not working, and now 
the problem is not there any more.  Something external to my system, but I have no 
clue what.  I've made no communications changes to my systems.

Sigh, chalk it up to serendipity.  Oh well, I'm always in the checkout lane that 
breaks down. g

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Roy Kidder
If I understand you coreectly, and all you want to do is back up your
filesystem to another drive mounted on /backup, you could just do this:

# cd /
# mount boot
# tar cvfz backup/backup.tgz boot/ bin/ etc/ home/ lib/ ...
# umount boot




Alkis Evlogimenos said:
 On Saturday 24 January 2004 01:00 pm, Glenn English wrote:
 I'm not sure what the same machine on a different mount means.

 hda mounted at /
 hdc mounted at /home
 hde mounted at /backup

 I want to backup / and /home on /backup and I am going to use only one
 machine
 (so I guess in amanda's terms the machine will be both a client and a
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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Alkis Evlogimenos
On Saturday 24 January 2004 01:13 pm, Roy Kidder wrote:
 If I understand you coreectly, and all you want to do is back up your
 filesystem to another drive mounted on /backup, you could just do this:

 # cd /
 # mount boot
 # tar cvfz backup/backup.tgz boot/ bin/ etc/ home/ lib/ ...
 # umount boot

Yes I am doing that already albeit a little bit differently: using find with 
the --mount option (piped to cpio):

find / /home \
-mount \
-path /tmp -prune -o \
-path /home/ftp -prune -o \
-path /home/media -prune -o \
-path /home/tmp -prune -o \
-print0 \
| \
cpio \
--create \
--null \
--format=crc \
--quiet \
| \
gzip \
--quiet \
 $ARCHIVE

So I only end up backing up the filesystems I want. I was just asking if 
amanda was capable of that.

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[gentoo-user] emerge -u gcc problem

2004-01-24 Thread Catalin Constantin
i get the following error after i use:

emerge -u gcc

gnu/classpath/.libs/Configuration.o java/lang/.libs/dtoa.o 
java/lang/.libs/k_rem_pio2.o java/lang/.libs/s_tan.o java/lang/.libs/e_acos.o 
java/lang/.libs/k_sin.o java/lang/.libs/strtod.o
java/lang/.libs/e_asin.o java/lang/.libs/k_tan.o java/lang/.libs/w_acos.o 
java/lang/.libs/e_atan2.o java/lang/.libs/mprec.o java/lang/.libs/w_asin.o 
java/lang/.libs/e_exp.o
java/lang/.libs/s_atan.o java/lang/.libs/w_atan2.o java/lang/.libs/e_fmod.o 
java/lang/.libs/s_ceil.o java/lang/.libs/w_exp.o java/lang/.libs/e_log.o 
java/lang/.libs/s_copysign.o
java/lang/.libs/w_fmod.o java/lang/.libs/e_pow.o java/lang/.libs/s_cos.o 
java/lang/.libs/w_log.o java/lang/.libs/e_rem_pio2.o java/lang/.libs/s_fabs.o 
java/lang/.libs/w_pow.o
java/lang/.libs/e_remainder.o java/lang/.libs/s_floor.o java/lang/.libs/w_remainder.o 
java/lang/.libs/e_scalb.o java/lang/.libs/s_rint.o java/lang/.libs/w_sqrt.o 
java/lang/.libs/e_sqrt.o
java/lang/.libs/s_scalbn.o java/lang/.libs/sf_rint.o java/lang/.libs/k_cos.o 
java/lang/.libs/s_sin.o java/lang/.libs/sf_fabs.o .libs/boehm.o .libs/posix-threads.o 
.libs/posix.o
-Wl,--whole-archive ../boehm-gc/.libs/libgcjgc_convenience.a 
../libffi/.libs/libffi_convenience.a ./libltdl/.libs/libltdlc.a -Wl,--no-whole-archive
-L/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.2.3-r3/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src 
-L/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.2.3-r3/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libstdc++-v3/src/.libs
-L/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.2.3-r3/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libjava 
../boehm-gc/.libs/libgcjgc_convenience.a ../libffi/.libs/libffi_convenience.a 
-lpthread ./libltdl/.libs/libltdlc.a -ldl
-lz -L/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.2.3-r3/work/build/gcc -L/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin 
-L/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib 
-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/.. -lgcc_s -lc
-lgcc_s/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.2.3-r3/work/build/gcc/crtendS.o 
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/../crtn.o  -Wl,-soname -Wl,libgcj.so.3 -o .libs/libgcj.so.3.0.0
collect2: ld terminated with signal 15 [Terminated]
make[3]: *** [libgcj.la] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.2.3-r3/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libjava'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.2.3-r3/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libjava'
make[1]: *** [all-target-libjava] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.2.3-r3/work/build'
make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2

!!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.2.3-r3 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 411, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine (audio) and jack

2004-01-24 Thread Krikket
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, Mark Knecht wrote:

 On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 00:52, Krikket wrote:
  Basic problem:
 
  I have no sound on xine.  Fresh install from freshly repartitioned
  hard-drives, the whole works.
 
  The error I'm getting is:
 
  libmad: ALERT input buffer too small (2279 bytes, 0 avail)!
  audio_alsa_out: snd_pcm_open() of front failed: Invalid argument
  audio_alsa_out:  check if another program don't already use PCM 
 
  (Which then repeats ad infinitum, or until the video ends, which ever
  comes first)

 1) Which version of xine? To use Alsa I had to use the ~x86 version.

 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 -pv xine-ui

 etc...

*Blink* *Blink*  Okay.  I was using the x86 version.  For future
reference, how can I determine this on my own?

Given that the install documents only talk about using alsa, and not oss,
I'm a bit surprised by this...

  So I start thinking of other ways I've gotten around other audio problems
  with this computer:  JACK.  I see it's even in portage.  Woot!

 OK, but xine does not talk to JAck so this won't help you with the
 problem above. That said:

 emerge -pv jack-audio-connection-kit

*blink*  Okay.  Once again, how can this be determined?  I was under the
impression that *all* jack revamped you system so *every* audio proram
goes through jack.  My expereience with using it under other versions of
Linux seem to back this up.  Without it I wouldn't be able to do some of
the stuff I am currently doing on another system, and xine seems to work
with it just fine.

  Only when I try to emerge that package, I get:
 
   Calculating dependencies
   !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy jack have been masked.
 
   !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.
 
 
  Erm?  Okay.  So I try 'USE=~i386 emerge jack' to see if that helps.
  Same result.
 
  Anyone know what's going on here?

 Learn to use the emerge search feature to get the names right

 emerge -s jack
 emerge -S jack

Yeah, I can see where that would help...  (DOH!)

Thanks again!

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u gcc problem

2004-01-24 Thread Simon Prosser
On Saturday 24 January 2004 19:38, Catalin Constantin wrote:
 any clue ?
try USE=-java emerge -u gcc
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Re: [gentoo-user] Compupic

2004-01-24 Thread Richard Monk
I use a combination of gqview and xnview.  Why do I use two?

gqview works wonderfully, but won't display animated gifs (maybe it will, I just have 
to configure it?)

xnview is SLOW and the interface isn't as clean and GTK-pretty as gqview

So, xnview for animateds and browsing multiple directories, and gqview for everything 
else.

-Rich

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:12:19 +0100
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 I haven't seen compupic in action, but IMHO one of the most powerful picure 
 browsers/viewers/modifiers is XnView. You should definitely check that one out
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Leslie C. Miller
On 01/24/04 08:57:25, Aaron Walker wrote:

-snip

Once I get everything back up and running, I want to start making it  
a habit to back things up on a regular basis.  I was wondering what  
others on this list did for their backups.

any recommendations?
The last system I bought came with onboard RAID (HPT 370), so I looked  
into using RAID as a backup system.  From what I recall, my options  
required me to trade off performance for security--or use 4 drives.   
Being poor, my system is already too slow and 4 drives was too  
expensive.  Simply backing up to another partition on the main HD  
doesn't help when drives fail (I always seem to blow out the controller  
on the drive).

So what I opted for was 2 physical drives in the machine: hda and hdb.
Then I just set up an rsync script to run every day through cron.  I  
believe the script I initially used was syncro.pl from an IBM  
DeveloperWorks article.  At any rate, I modified the script for my  
setup and then used it to mirror exactly hda to hdb.

Now, when hda dies, all I have to do is to reach in and move the cable  
on hdb from secondary to primary IDE, and move the jumper to master.
Then when I fire up the system, it is like nothing happened.  Of course  
my fileseystem is only as current as 4am that day when the drive was  
mirrored; you could always just mount the drive and save files to it  
too, if you need more current backups.

I can even do pretty big mistakes with file deletion, mount my mirrored  
disk, copy the deleted files back to my main drive, and I am good to  
go---as long as I don't delete files needed to reboot or copy.   
Otherwise, I just switch the cables and the jumper on hdb and reboot.

Since implementing this backup system, I have never lost more than a  
few hours of work on anything.  I don't have to worry about how to  
restore after a drive or fs problem, no rescue disks are needed, and  
best of all, with rsync, once the drive has been copied the first time,  
all that needs to be copied subsequently is the files that have changed  
that day (and rsync doesn't even have to copy the whole file!)

But there are two problems with this system.  First, the two drives are  
in the same machine, in the same room of the same house.  Theft, fire,  
meteorites, etc. can totally wipe out my files.  Second, this system  
does require two drives.  At first it was hard to shell out cash for a  
drive that wasn't available for extra storage, but after the first time  
I needed it, that ceased to be a problem!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Joel Wright
you could give anjuta a try. nice gtk2 IDE.

have fun,
Joel.

On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 11:35, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 Hi guys, 
 I need some recommendation for a nice graphical IDE for C, C++ (these 
 two are satisfactory). I have been using kde for some time, and I really got used to 
 Kdevelop, but now, i'm off kde and I don't really feel like installing all of the 
 kde*stuff to get kdevelop working.
 
 Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?
 
 p.s. I googled for this once all night, but couldn't decide...
 p.p.s. If any of you know DEVC++ for windows - then I'm looking for something like 
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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Saturday 24 Jan 2004 15:57, Aaron Walker wrote:
 Once I get everything back up and running, I want to start making it
 a habit to back things up on a regular basis.  I was wondering what
 others on this list did for their backups.

 any recommendations?

 Thanks,
 Aaron

I use tar like this:
#==
#! /bin/bash
# /usr/local/bin/backup
###
# Backup Script
###
# Jason Calabrese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Modified by Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25-Sep-03

# This script uses tar to back up your whole system (with an EXCLUDE
# variable to handle what you want to skip) to a dedicated backup disk. 
# I have three 200GB disks, one of which has a single hdg1 partition for
# backups.  Using tar by itself is *much* quicker than using bz2
# compression.

# Most of the script is taken up with reporting.  I found the best way
# to get capacity is to cat /proc/partitions for the backup partition to
# get the TOTALBLOCKS and divide that by 1024 twice.  That reports 189GB
# here.
# cat /proc/partitions doesn't work for 2.6 kernels.

# I pipe some of the calculations to bc to prevent divide-by-zero errors
# when fractions are involved.

# CHANGES
# 04-Dec-03 Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if clause added
# to TOTALBLOCKS to allow for 2.6 kernels
# 06-Dec-03 Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: separate backups
# for linux and Windows
# 18-Jan-04 Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: removed USEDSPACE
# and RSYNCSPACE variables; they use `du`
#  
 which takes up too much time (6-8 minutes/calculation).

###

# Initial backup variables
BK_DISK=hdg
BK_PART=hdg1
BACKUP_TO=/mnt/backup
HOST=$( hostname|cut -f1 -d. )

# Make sure there is nothing on the unmounted mount point
echo Ensuring that an unmouted ${BACKUP_TO} is empty...
echo
if [[ $(mount | grep ${BACKUP_TO}) ==  ]]; then
echo   ${BACKUP_TO} is not mounted
echo
if [[ $(ls ${BACKUP_TO}) !=  ]]; then
rm ${BACKUP_TO}/* 2 /dev/null
fi
fi

echoBackup of ${HOST} started at `date +'%H:%M'`
echo
echoMounting boot partition...
mount /boot
echo
echoMounting backup disk...
echo   ...waiting 10 seconds for disk to spin up...
mount ${BACKUP_TO}
sleep 10
if [[ $(mount | grep ${BACKUP_TO}) ==  ]]; then
echo   ${BACKUP_TO} is not mounted
exit 1
fi
echo

echo   ...calculating...
echo

# Variables and calculations before backup
FILE_LINUX=${BACKUP_TO}/$HOST-linux-$( date +%F-%H%M ).tar
FILE_WIN=${BACKUP_TO}/$HOST-win-$( date +%F-%H%M ).tar
FILE_LIST_LINUX=${BACKUP_TO}/$HOST-linux-$( date +%F-%H%M ).list
FILE_LIST_WIN=${BACKUP_TO}/$HOST-win-$( date +%F-%H%M ).list
EXCLUDE_LINUX='--exclude /mdk --exclude /mnt/downloads/Mandrake \ 
 --exclude /mnt/downloads/Pan --exclude /mnt/backup \
 --exclude /mnt/cdrom  --exclude /mnt/floppy --exclude /mnt/KROH \
 --exclude /mnt/KROH-LIESE --exclude /mnt/KROH-PETER \
 --exclude /mnt/PENGUIN --exclude /mnt/win --exclude /proc \
 --exclude /sys --exclude /usr/portage/distfiles --exclude /tmp \
 --exclude /root/.ccache --exclude /home/peter/.ccache'
EXCLUDE_WIN='--exclude /mnt/win/d/Pan --exclude /mnt/win/j \
 --exclude /mnt/win/l --exclude /mnt/win/n --exclude /mnt/win/o'
#USEDSPACE=$( du -sh ${BACKUP_TO} | grep G | awk '{print $1}' | \
# cut -f1 -dG )

# test for first run
unset FIRSTTIME
if ! [[ $(ls ${BACKUP_TO}/${HOST}-*.tar 2 /dev/null) ]]; then
# To pevent divide by zero errors.
# TARSPACE is the space occupied by tarballs.  You may have other stuff
# on this disk.
# I do a daily rsync backup to this partition for instant rescue.
TARSPACE=1
TARSPACE_LINUX=1
TARSPACE_WIN=1
NUMBAKUPS=1
NUMBAKUPS_LINUX=1
NUMBAKUPS_WIN=1
FIRSTTIME=1
else
TARSPACE=$( du -sch ${BACKUP_TO}/${HOST}*.tar | grep total | \
 awk '{print $1}' | cut -f1 -dG )
TARSPACE_LINUX=$( du -sch ${BACKUP_TO}/${HOST}-linux*.tar | \
 grep total | awk '{print $1}' | cut -f1 -dG )
TARSPACE_WIN=$( du -sch ${BACKUP_TO}/${HOST}-win*.tar | \
 grep total | awk '{print $1}' | cut -f1 -dG )
NUMBAKUPS=$( ls ${BACKUP_TO}/${HOST}-*.tar | wc -w | awk '{print $1}' )
NUMBAKUPS_LINUX=$( ls ${BACKUP_TO}/${HOST}-linux*.tar | wc -w | \
 awk '{print $1}' )
NUMBAKUPS_WIN=$( ls ${BACKUP_TO}/${HOST}-win*.tar | wc -w | \
 awk '{print $1}' )
fi

if [[ $(uname -r | cut -d. -f2) -eq 6 ]]; then
# This is disk manufacturers' gigabytes (10 bytes)
# CAPACITY=$( echo $(cat /sys/block/${BK_DISK}/size)*512/10 \
#| bc )
CAPACITY=$( echo $(cat /sys/block/${BK_DISK}/size) \
 *512/1024/1024/1024 \ | bc )
else
TOTALBLOCKS=$(cat /proc/partitions|grep \
 

Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Christian Fischer
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On Saturday 24 January 2004 19:55, Roy Kidder wrote:
 I use Arkeia (www.arkeia.com). The light (free) version allows you to
 backup three hosts (including the one which the tape drive is attached
 to). It recognizes a variety of tape drives (including my DLT), but it
 won't do anything fancy such as libraries or silos. You have to pay a
 bunch of money to get those features.

 But it backs up and restores nicely. It has some nice features, like
 scheduled backups, emailing of reports, redirected restores, etc. I have
 it working with two Linux boxes (one of which hosts the tape drive) and
 one Microsoft box. It backs them up automatically, appending to the
 current tape. When it needs a new tape, it generates an email asking for
 one.


again, have a look at
http://www.bacula.org/

it's free software without limitations, IMHO it's great backup software,  well 
documented and easy to use

christian
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[gentoo-user] Re: best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Thomas Smith
Alkis Evlogimenos writes: 

On Saturday 24 January 2004 11:41 am, Glenn English wrote:
On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 09:42, Alkis Evlogimenos wrote:
 On Saturday 24 January 2004 10:18 am, Andrej Kacian wrote:
  (Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:10:09 -0600)
 
  And Alkis Evlogimenos [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   What I have right now is a script running daily and backups
   everything (using cpio piped though gzip) except temp directories and
   media files. I also added
  
some estimates on free space so that the earliest backup is removed
   if it is estimated that the remaining space is not enough. This way I
   maximize the number of previous daily backups.
 
  Approximately how much space does one daily backup use there?

 7 gigs and it takes about 45 minutes to be created. 

I'm using amanda. A cron job runs it and sends me email about what
happened. Then I change the tape. 

I've been watching this thread, and Amanda seems an obvious solution. It
takes a little doing to get it set up, but hey, this is *nix. 

Is there a problem with Amanda that I don't know about?
Also my network is wireless so backing up over it is not an option :-)
This question may go a bit off-topic, but why is backing up over a wireless 
network not an option?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread david stevenson

 Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?

I have exactly the same question.
I know many people like vi or emacs (or both) but this is not interesting to 
those of us who like gui development.
My target is to find the features I used in Codewright under m$.
I have just emerged eclipse, and it looks promising, but it has not been 
simple to learn some of the basics. I have seen reviews of books about 
eclipse for java development, but can anyone advise any tutorials for eclipse 
as a C IDE.
Am I right in thinking anjuta, is less developed than kdevelop and eclipse?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-24 Thread Matthew Kennedy
Rust [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Saturday 24 January 2004 01:35 pm, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 Can you please recommend which IDE would be the best?

 GNU Emacs and XEmacs are the best. The only disadvantage is that, that you 
 must learn how to use em for a very long time. But it's worth. With Emacses 
 you can control everything, that you do, and you'll get no extra stupid 
 files, or other. Many extensions are also availible. Try, und you won't be 
 disappointed!

[...]

If you go looking for the IDE in Emacs, you'll have:

  * ECB (Emacs Code Browser) [1]
  * Semantic (for intellisense features and code analysis) [2]
  * GUD (symbolic, source-following debugger) interface to GDB
  * Integrated HTML browsing (Emacs-W3M etc.)
  * Integrated documentation (man, woman, info etc.)
  * Built in shells (eshell, shell)
  * File management system (dired)
  * Project management (ECB/JDEE)
  * Interface to the compiler (with hyperlinks to where the errors occur.

If you also do Java, you'll want to check out JDEE (Java Development
Environment for Emacs) which works seamlessly with ECB.

Both GNU Emacs and XEmacs and run in X11, console or Windows

All of the above are in Portage.

Footnotes: 
[1]  http://ecb.sourceforge.net/screenshots/index.html
[2]  http://cedet.sourceforge.net/intellisense.shtml

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[gentoo-user] problem emerging subversion!

2004-01-24 Thread raptor
subversion stops on sys-libs/db-4.1.25_p1-r3 ...
HOW to solve this !? tia

#emerge subversion
...
checking for javac... no
checking for gcj... gcj -C
checking if gcj -C works... yes
checking for jar... no
configure: error: no acceptable jar program found in $PATH
 
!!! ERROR: sys-libs/db-4.1.25_p1-r3 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 95, Exitcode 1
!!! (no error message)

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Matthew Kennedy
Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Came home at 3am this morning to find my main desktop machine locked
 up solid...  Rebooted and all of a sudden heard the dreaded clicking
 of the hard drive (a 6month old WDC 80GB).   I was wanting to
 reinstall Gentoo on my main desktop anyways, but this wasn't quite
 what I had in mind... 

 Anyways, I threw a spare hard drive in (identical to the one that
 died), and am in the process of reinstalling Gentoo (on the 3rd
 different machine this week  )

 Once I get everything back up and running, I want to start making it a
 habit to back things up on a regular basis.  I was wondering what
 others on this list did for their backups.

 I was considering the following:
 -  a seperate machine to handle all backup's of the various machines
on my home LAN
 -  buy another 80G and a RAID card and run it in RAID 1

Backing up to a separate machine is the best strategy.  This is what
I do. 

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[gentoo-user] crypted file with loop device

2004-01-24 Thread Michael Spohn
Hi, 

I am having troubles setting up a crypted file

# dd if=/dev/zero of=SecureFile bs=1k count=70
# losetup -e blowfish /dev/loop0 SecureFile

after the password the program stops with:

Password:
The cipher does not exist, or a cipher module needs to be loaded into
the kernel
ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument

which I not quite understand because all ciphers in the kernel options
are compiled as modules and a couple of them are actually loaded 

# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
serpent12672  0
twofish42112  0
sha512  9728  0
blowfish9472  0
--- snip ---

What am I missing out ?

Any ideas are highly appreciated.

TIA

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] crypted file with loop device

2004-01-24 Thread lukas
On Sunday 25 January 2004 00:29, Michael Spohn wrote:
 Hi,

 I am having troubles setting up a crypted file

 # dd if=/dev/zero of=SecureFile bs=1k count=70
 # losetup -e blowfish /dev/loop0 SecureFile

 after the password the program stops with:

 Password:
 The cipher does not exist, or a cipher module needs to be loaded into
 the kernel
 ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument

What version of util-linux have you installed?
You need version = 2.12 else it don't work.

cu

lukas


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Re: [gentoo-user] cvs filesystem ?!

2004-01-24 Thread raptor
Does subversion preserve the file permissions 'cause cvs doesn't and it will need 
alot of additional work 
to use it really transparently.. tia

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[gentoo-user] `su -`taking ~15 seconds after password?

2004-01-24 Thread Greg Bolshaw
Hi

Recently I have noticed that when switching to the root account from a
standard user account, it takes around 15 seconds to provide me with a
root prompt after entering the password. This applies to gnome-terminal,
xterm and on the console. However, su'ing between user accounts is
instantaneous.

I've checked the obvious ~root/.bash_profile and ~root/.bashrc for any
scripts that could be causing the delay. This however is all as
standard.

Any ideas on what would cause this? I'm guessing it's PAM related.

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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Glenn English
On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 12:07, Alkis Evlogimenos wrote:
 On Saturday 24 January 2004 01:00 pm, Glenn English wrote:
  I'm not sure what the same machine on a different mount means.
 
 hda mounted at /
 hdc mounted at /home
 hde mounted at /backup

Oh. Sure. It'll do that. If the shell can get to it, Amanda can get to
it. (Not sure about NFS, though).

 I want to backup / and /home on /backup and I am going to use only one machine 
 (so I guess in amanda's terms the machine will be both a client and a 
 server).

Yup. I've never set up for backups to a disk, but I expect it'll do
that; I use DAT.

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Re: [gentoo-user] help me please!!! cannot read/write home directory

2004-01-24 Thread Linus harling




Andrey Kartashov wrote:

  On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 12:14:20AM +0300, Andrew B. Panphiloff wrote:

... skpd

  
  
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drwx--2 alucard  alucard  4096 Dec 12 14:23 alucard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]id alucard  
uid=509(alucard) gid=510(alucard) groups=510(alucard)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]chown -R alucard:alucard /home/alucard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]chmod -R u+rwx /home/alucard/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]ls -l /home/ | grep alucard
drwx--2 alucard  alucard  4096 Dec 12 14:23 alucard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]su - alucard
su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/alucard: Permission denied
-bash: /home/alucard/.bash_profile: Permission denied
-bash-2.05b$ 


only cp solve my problem, but I can't copy all my disk!

  
  
Are you using NFS by any chance? Or some other network-mounted file system for 
home directories (run 'mount' with no options to find out).
  


Good idea! If you don't deem it sensitive, it might be a good idea to
post it here too. I for one have had trouble with mounted volumes
before, both local and remote ones.

If it's not an nfs-mount, what filesystem are you using on the volume
hosting /home? ext2, ext3, reiser or something else maybe?

  
If it is indeed a network mount, you need to make sure you have necessary permissions
on the server as it may not honor your local 'root' privileges. Also, in this case
you need to double check if your 'cp ' commands above didn't screw things up i.e.
you didn't end up with local copies of that stuff instead of the network mounted
directories (could happen if you are running an automount).
  


Automount seems to take control over the mount even to the extent that
root is denied access in some cases, if youre running autofs, check
your configs thoroughly, I've seen some cases where it (autofs) starts
up with no errors, just to refuse all access later...

  
The only other thing that comes to mind is a corrupt filesystem, in which case
you can try 'shutdown -r -F 0' , where '-F' should force 'fsck' on reboot 
(even for journalized filesystems).
  






Re: [gentoo-user] crypted file with loop device

2004-01-24 Thread Michael Spohn
Le sam 24/01/2004 à 22:39, lukas a écrit :
 On Sunday 25 January 2004 00:29, Michael Spohn wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am having troubles setting up a crypted file
 
  # dd if=/dev/zero of=SecureFile bs=1k count=70
  # losetup -e blowfish /dev/loop0 SecureFile
 
  after the password the program stops with:
 
  Password:
  The cipher does not exist, or a cipher module needs to be loaded into
  the kernel
  ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument
 
 What version of util-linux have you installed?
 You need version = 2.12 else it don't work.

Hi Lukas,

thanks for your quick response. Your hint seems to hit the bulls eye. I
now installed the new version which is ~x86 and there is a progress. It
now terminates with

You must specify a key size (in bits) for use with CryptoAPI encryption.

I know I should rtfm ;-) but at least #man losetup didn't come up with
an appropriate option.

Thanks again

Michael


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Re: [gentoo-user] cvs filesystem ?!

2004-01-24 Thread raptor
oopsi forgot, why I want this.. if I have to run /etc under subversion control I have 
to first 
import it into repository, then move /etc, and then checkout... u know what mess 
happens if
permission changes ?
Is there some way to preserve the dir but just add svn/cvs metadata(i.e. dir)..
So I dont do the move STEP !?



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Re: [gentoo-user] possible to mount home directory on login?

2004-01-24 Thread Linus harling
Ian Truelsen wrote:

Is it possible, assuming that each user's home directory is on a
separate partition, to have the user's home directory mount only when
they login and then umount on logout?
 

autofs (http://freshmeat.net/projects/autofs/?topic_id=142) does exactly 
that...

# emerge -s autofs
# emerge autofs
...blaha...
# man autofs
# man auto.master
# man automount
works like a charm, at least for me.

/Linus

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Re: [gentoo-user] crypted file with loop device

2004-01-24 Thread lukas
On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:02, Michael Spohn wrote:

 You must specify a key size (in bits) for use with CryptoAPI
 encryption.

 I know I should rtfm ;-) but at least #man losetup didn't come up
 with an appropriate option.

One way to set the keysize is to use the -k option.

losetup -e blowfish -k 256 /dev/loop0 SecureFile

I'm using an assembler optimized version of aes and I can chose a
keysize up to 256 bit. I don't know how big the keysize can be
with blowfish (but I think it's also 256 bits).
I think 3des is the most secure algorithm (because some
mathematicians have recently discovered a method to
describe the aes algorithm in a way that  they can
reduce the amount of possible keys for a brute force attack,
and it is possible, that further investigations in the future
could maybe break the code - sorry for my bad english, I hope you
understand what I wanna say :), but 3des is very slow, so I'm
using aes.
I don't know anything about the security of twofish.

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] crypted file with loop device

2004-01-24 Thread Michael Spohn
Le dim 25/01/2004 à 00:02, Michael Spohn a écrit :
 Le sam 24/01/2004 à 22:39, lukas a écrit :
  On Sunday 25 January 2004 00:29, Michael Spohn wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I am having troubles setting up a crypted file
  
   # dd if=/dev/zero of=SecureFile bs=1k count=70
   # losetup -e blowfish /dev/loop0 SecureFile
  
   after the password the program stops with:
  
   Password:
   The cipher does not exist, or a cipher module needs to be loaded into
   the kernel
   ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument
  
  What version of util-linux have you installed?
  You need version = 2.12 else it don't work.
 
 Hi Lukas,
 
 thanks for your quick response. Your hint seems to hit the bulls eye. I
 now installed the new version which is ~x86 and there is a progress. It
 now terminates with
 
 You must specify a key size (in bits) for use with CryptoAPI encryption.
 
 I know I should rtfm ;-) but at least #man losetup didn't come up with
 an appropriate option.
 
 Thanks again
 
 Michael
 
 
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Ok, found the key specifier. I have to append -xxx with xxx = keysize to
the name of the cipher module. so 

#losetup -e blowfish-256 /dev/loop0 SecureFile

works just fine

Merci

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] crypted file with loop device

2004-01-24 Thread lukas
On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:23, Michael Spohn wrote:

 Ok, found the key specifier. I have to append -xxx with xxx = keysize
 to the name of the cipher module. so

 #losetup -e blowfish-256 /dev/loop0 SecureFile

Oh sorry. The -k option is not longer available. I forgot.

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] jerky music playback in kde

2004-01-24 Thread Eduardo Silva
On Saturday 24 January 2004 15:01, Alkis Evlogimenos wrote:
 I have a resonable fast machine (Athlon XP 2400+) and a well supported
 sound card (Sound Blaster Live!). Software-wise: KDE 3.1.5, 2.6.1-mm5
 kernel, arts is running with realtime priority (artswrapper setuid root)
 and play my mp3s ogg though juk.

 When I play mp3s or oggs though mpg123 or ogg123 the jerkyness goes away so
 I think this is a problem with arts. Anyone experiencing similar problems?

 Thanks,

Yes I have experienced this issue using Juk with KDE. In my case, when I use 
xmms the issue goes away (i.e. all jerkiness goes away in almost every 
situation).

Also, I have problems when I try to run another app that requires access 
to /dev/dsp such as mplayer, and in many cases when artsd is running it fails 
to see it as free. I gather it's because of arts, and I kill the process 
which fixes the situation. However, this doesn't happen all the time.

Just to say, I feel your pain
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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Eduardo Silva
On Saturday 24 January 2004 17:58, lukas wrote:
 On Saturday 24 January 2004 16:57, Aaron Walker wrote:
  I was considering the following:
  -  a seperate machine to handle all backup's of the various machines
  on my home LAN
  -  buy another 80G and a RAID card and run it in RAID 1
 
  any recommendations?

 I'm using a HP DDS3 DAT-tape (12GB native) and a DEC TZ87 DLT-tape (10GB
 native) for my backups.
 2 Jears ago I bought both drives for a very low price.
 Have a look at e-bay. Sometimes you can get there tape-drives for low
 prices.
 But if you want to backup 80GB at once, it's propably cheaper to use
 IDE-RAID. :)

 cu

 lukas

I use an external USB 2.0 or Firewire HD with some 60GB capa. Just connect it, 
mount it in some /mnt/external dir, and then run rsync to sync all my home 
directory ('cause that's what I value the backup for) with only the diffs 
since the last rsync.

This way I protect the data even from PC HW issues, and can carry it around in 
case of need.
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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Alec Berryman
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 10:57:25AM -0500, Aaron Walker wrote:
 I was considering the following:
 -  a seperate machine to handle all backup's of the various machines on 
 my home LAN

My solution to this was duplicity.  If you don't need encryption try rdiff-backup; 
both are similar.  Other backups seemed to be an overkill.  These two will do both 
full and incremental backups depending on your space capacities, and are very simple 
to set up.  They run over a variety of backends, including scp and ftp.


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Re: [gentoo-user] best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Marshal Newrock
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, Aaron Walker wrote:

 I was considering the following:
 -  a seperate machine to handle all backup's of the various machines on
 my home LAN
 -  buy another 80G and a RAID card and run it in RAID 1

 any recommendations?

What I will soon be doing will be hooking up a couple of drives in
software RAID 1, to protect from drive failures.  Then, I'll have rsync
run daily from cron to back up my entire file system to this raid.
Finally, I may tar up critical stuff, such as /etc, and keep a certain
number of days worth.

Rsync is nice in that the first run will take a long time, but after that
it should go quickly.  And logrotate could easily handle keeping the tar
files for a certain number of days, even though they're not logs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Object not found! httpd-2.0.40

2004-01-24 Thread Nuckerl Stefan
Just send your apache configs along. Otherwise this is going to be a quiz
:-)

apache2.conf and commonapache2.conf

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Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 2:35 AM
Subject: [gentoo-user] Object not found! httpd-2.0.40


 Hey there I have a few websites that I have been experimenting with but
for
 some reason I cannot access them; even locally. All my web docs are held
at:
 /var/www/html and beyond this last directory, I have various folders which
I
 am virtually hosting.

 I am not sure whether I have inadvertently changed the permissions on
these
 folders so I have changed them to 755 and then 777 and still nothing. Have
 even created new folders and added web pages but all I get is the error
 above: Object not found!

 Any assistance, much appreciated.



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[gentoo-user] [OT] MicroSecurity Portal ?

2004-01-24 Thread Jorge Almeida
Hi,
This is really OT, but I wonder whether someone else finds this a
little strange. I went to LinuxToday 
http://linuxtoday.com/security/1999061401605SC
and clicked a complete story link 
http://securityportal.com/direct.cgi?/topnews/tn19990614.htm
What I got is a The page cannot be found message, the kind I'm sure
we all know and love, ending with the all-stupid Technical information
note +  Microsoft Support link.
In the Security portal?

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Re: [gentoo-user] xine (audio) and jack

2004-01-24 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 11:40, Krikket wrote:
  
   Anyone know what's going on here?
 
  Learn to use the emerge search feature to get the names right
 
  emerge -s jack
  emerge -S jack
 
 Yeah, I can see where that would help...  (DOH!)
 
 Thanks again!
 
 Krikket

Basically, and I'm sure you know this, but

man emerge

has more information than I can ever give you, and it's actually quite a
good man page once I got over my fear of it. Just take some time and
learn the basics

emerge sync
emerge -s name
emerge -S name
emerge -pv name
emerge -Upv name

emerge -Upv world

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 on the above EXCEPT not on world, in my opinion,
but that's up to you. I'm no guru. One of these days I'll be learning
from you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] MicroSecurity Portal ?

2004-01-24 Thread Simon Prosser
On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:23, Jorge Almeida wrote:
 we all know and love, ending with the all-stupid Technical information
 note +  Microsoft Support link.
 In the Security portal?
i got the ame in mozilla 1.6
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Re: [gentoo-user] Flummoxed by fluxbox fonts?

2004-01-24 Thread Nicholas
On Friday 23 Jan 2004 2:30 am, Pascal Brax wrote:
 i got EXACTLY the same problem 1 year ago in Enlightenment.16

 But there was a theme bug, i switched theme and all worked as usual.

 checklist

 - sure u didn't delete some fonts?
 - fontpaths are ok?
 - xfs is still working or has gone holiday? ;)
   (of course, IF you use xfs...)

Ticked all the boxes (though not sure to what the ellipsis alludes).
Tried changing theme again in ~/.fluxbox/init again, and switching off 
antialias while I was there: Hello fluxbox, my old friend.

Thanks for the prompt.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Flummoxed by fluxbox fonts?

2004-01-24 Thread Nicholas
On Saturday 24 Jan 2004 4:06 pm, Wayne Oliver wrote:

 disable anti aliasing ...

 cheers
 Wayne

Thanks, that's it!
Sorry it took me so long to find your answer.
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Re: [gentoo-user] wine compilation fails?

2004-01-24 Thread Scott Jackson
I've emerged nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx.
and done opengl-update nvidia.
(shrug)

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:13:33 +0100
Jakub Krajcovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dou you have all the necessary opengl libs/drivers/headers/anything?
 
 On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:59:53 -0600
 Scott Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  directx.c:639: `GL_MAX_VERTEX_UNITS_ARB' undeclared (first use in this function)
  
  on emerge wine, with version wine-20031212
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] `su -`taking ~15 seconds after password?

2004-01-24 Thread Mike Arrison
Run 'top' in one console while su'ing in another.  See if anything major
is taking cycles.

-Mike Arrison

On Jan 24 22:50, Greg Bolshaw wrote:
 Hi
 
 Recently I have noticed that when switching to the root account from a
 standard user account, it takes around 15 seconds to provide me with a
 root prompt after entering the password. This applies to gnome-terminal,
 xterm and on the console. However, su'ing between user accounts is
 instantaneous.
 
 I've checked the obvious ~root/.bash_profile and ~root/.bashrc for any
 scripts that could be causing the delay. This however is all as
 standard.
 
 Any ideas on what would cause this? I'm guessing it's PAM related.
 
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 Kind regards
 
 Greg Bolshaw
 Consultant
 Linux Technologies
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[gentoo-user] chrooted shell can't access outside network??

2004-01-24 Thread Scott Jackson


My friend is having an interesting problem
He can access the network from the livecd, but from the chrooted shell, he can't ping 
anything outside the local network! I told him to try using route, but route exits 
with an error.

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[gentoo-user] gentoo on acer travelmate c110

2004-01-24 Thread Valmor de Almeida
Anybody out there trying gentoo on an acer travelmate c110 tablet pc?
or any other tablet pc? I would appreciate opinions/suggestions, etc.
Thanks

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[gentoo-user] emerge maildrop problem

2004-01-24 Thread R Greenwell
When I try to emerge maildrop I get the following error.  Am I 
missing a package?  emerge did not flag any dependancies.

Thanks,
Robert
Output:
===
flag-o-matic
flag-o-matic
flag-o-matic
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking maildrop-1.5.3.tar.bz2 to 
/var/tmp/portage/maildrop-1.5.3/work
 Source unpacked.
flag-o-matic
mysql
berkdb
configure: WARNING: If you wanted to set the --build type, don't use 
--host.
If a cross compiler is detected then cross compile mode will be 
used.
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed
checking for gawk... gawk
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /bin/install -c
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-ranlib... no
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking for dbopen in -ldb... no
checking for db_open in -ldb... no
checking for db_env_create in -ldb... no
checking for dbopen... no
checking for db_open... no
checking for db_env_create... no
configure: error: GDBM library not found

!!! ERROR: net-mail/maildrop-1.5.3 failed.
!!! Function econf, Line 339, Exitcode 1
!!! econf failed
Calculating dependencies  ...done!
 emerge (1 of 1) net-mail/maildrop-1.5.3 to /
 md5 src_uri ;-) maildrop-1.5.3.tar.bz2
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.1.5?

2004-01-24 Thread Norberto Bensa
Jerry McBride wrote:
 Anyone having problems with kde 3.1.5? 

Working great here.

 No complaints in messages, just dead laptops.

Try to disable aRts and see how it goes.

Regards,
Norberto
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Re: [gentoo-user] xine (audio) and jack

2004-01-24 Thread Krikket
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Basically, and I'm sure you know this, but

 man emerge

 has more information than I can ever give you, and it's actually quite a
 good man page once I got over my fear of it. Just take some time and
 learn the basics

 emerge sync
 emerge -s name
 emerge -S name
 emerge -pv name

Prune Verbose.  This one scares me, but that's because the man page
doesn't give enough on ie.

If, I had version 1.2 and 1.3 of the same package installed, if I'm
understanding correctly -p will remove 1.2, but leave 1.3 intact.

Seems simple enough, but if that's all there is, why does the man page
have additional warnings not to use this varient?

 emerge -Upv name
 emerge -Upv world

 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 on the above EXCEPT not on world, in my opinion,
 but that's up to you. I'm no guru. One of these days I'll be learning
 from you.

This last comment, I don't get.  If I understand correctly (althouhg I may
not) ~x86 says to use the latest still-in-testing version.  After Fedora,
I've had enough of testing, unstable, and bleeding edge packages.  (4
kernel upgrades in 2 days...  And that's the *stable* branch!  Xine still
goesn't work right, consistently.)  Is the ~x86 branch more stable than
other distros?  (For instance Debian unstable has a long history of being
even more stable than some stable branches of other Linux distros.)

And what's the difference between ~x86 and ~xi386?  Is there some way I
can tell when I'll need to use one of those flags in advance of trying out
the stable version of the package?

Krikket


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: best way to backup

2004-01-24 Thread Alkis Evlogimenos
On Saturday 24 January 2004 03:56 pm, Thomas Smith wrote:
  Also my network is wireless so backing up over it is not an option :-)

 This question may go a bit off-topic, but why is backing up over a wireless
 network not an option?

Way too slow. Imagine passing 10gb of data through a 11mbps link (which in my 
setup peaks at around 3mbps). That would take around 9 hours for a complete 
backup to finish.

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