Re: [gentoo-user] cat /proc/cpuinfo - Athlon XP or MP..?

[Shawn]

Maybe your BIOS needs updating? I'm grasping here, but that has been the
thing that makes /proc/cpuinfo tell me lies. Or, maybe your father
bought the wrong (or right, ironically) CPU?

God, it's nearly 1:00am. Why do I let the girlfriend keep me up with
drama. Geez.

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 20:37, Stroller wrote:
> I've borrowed an Athlon CPU from my father, to test in a Tyan Tiger 
> dual-proc board I have acquired. As far as i knew, this processor is a 
> bog-standard Althon XP, but both the BIOS & `cat /proc/cpuinfo` show it 
> as an MP.
> 
> The markings on the processor start with the letters "AX", which, 
> according to this page 
> , indicates 
> it's an MP. Do all Athlons show up as "MP" in /proc/cpuinfo, or could 
> it be the case that this has been misbadged..?
> 
> Could be the board causing such an output..?
> 
> TIA for any comments,
> 
> Stroller.
> 
> 
> # cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor   : 0
> vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family  : 6
> model   : 6
> model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) MP 1600+
> stepping: 2
> cpu MHz : 1400.083
> cache size  : 256 KB
> fdiv_bug: no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug: no
> coma_bug: no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp  : yes
> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
> mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
> bogomips: 2791.83
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] New way to finance OSS development

[Drake Wyrm]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:15:12AM +, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Williams 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 January 2004 09:59, Leonid Podolny wrote:
> > The auction _was_ cancelled. Someone care to tell what it was?
> A windows xp 'New Folder'

Priceless. Anybody get some screenshots?

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Re: [gentoo-user] DNS setup

[Andrew Gaffney]

Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:11:06 -0600 Andrew Gaffney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I run a Gentoo server at skylineaero.com. I have someone else running
| my DNS for me. Inside the LAN, I want to run a full DNS server for
| boxes inside the LAN. That part is easy. Here's the hard part. When
| any computer inside the LAN tries to resolve skylineaero.com,
| www.skylineaero.com, etc., I want it to get the LAN IP instead of the 
| external internet IP. How can I do this?

Dead easy... On your local DNS server:

* emerge dnsmasq
* mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.dnsmasq
* echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf
* echo 'DNSMASQ_OPTS="-r /etc/resolv.dnsmasq"' > /etc/conf.d/dnsmasq
* add in /etc/hosts entries for skylineaero.com with the *local IP* to
/etc/hosts. also add in entries for all the boxes on your LAN.
* rc-update add dnsmasq default
* /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start
On every other box:

* echo "nameserver IP_OF_YOUR_LOCAL_DNS_SERVER" > /etc/resolv.conf

dnsmasq is just a little server (suitable for < 100 clients) that tries
to resolve from /etc/hosts, and forwards on to another nameserver (your
ISP, presumably) if it can't find a match.
Finally, something to free us from the evil (to configure) that is BIND! I'll try that. 
Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] QT Compile Failure... A Plea...

[Nicholas Hockey]

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 00:00, Matt Neimeyer wrote:

I'm still getting errors in trying to compile QT... here's the latest
failure... Any advice?

Thanks!

Matt

g++ -c -pipe -fno-exceptions -Wall -W -O2 -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_SHARED
-DQT_TABLET_SUPPORT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT
-DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_NO_CUPS -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DQT_BUILTIN_GIF_READER=1 -DQT_NO_STYLE_MAC
-DQT_NO_STYLE_AQUA -DQT_NO_STYLE_INTERLACE -DQT_NO_STYLE_WINDOWSXP
-DQT_NO_STYLE_COMPACT
-I/var/tmp/portage/qt-3.2.3-r1/work/qt-x11-free-3.2.3/mkspecs/linux-g++
-I. -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I3rdparty/opentype -I../include
-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I.moc/release-shared-mt/ -o
.obj/release-shared-mt/qprinter_unix.o kernel/qprinter_unix.cpp
../include/qstringlist.h:62: internal error: Segmentation fault
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See http://bugs.gentoo.org/> for instructions.
make[1]: *** [.obj/release-shared-mt/qprinter_unix.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/qt-3.2.3-r1/work/qt-x11-free-3.2.3/src'
make: *** [sub-src] Error 2
 
!!! ERROR: x11-libs/qt-3.2.3-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 109, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)


And here's my emerge info... if it helps any...

Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.10
Portage 2.0.49-r21 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r9,
2.4.22-gentoo-r5)
=
System uname: 2.4.22-gentoo-r5 i586 AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-march=k6 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i586-pc-linux-gnu"
COMPILER="gcc3"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config
/usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=k6 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs ccache sandbox"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.noved.org/ http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/
ftp://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=""
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X apm arts avi berkdb crypt directfb encode fam fbcon gdbm gif gpm
imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad maildir mbox mikmod motif moznocompose
moznoirc moznomail moznoxft mpeg mpeg4 ncurses nls offensive oggvorbis
opengl oss pam pcmcia pdflib perl png pnp python qt quicktime readline
samba sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd tiff truetype usb wmf x86 xine xml2
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i don't think this is a qt problem, it looks to me that something caused your gcc to choke and die, you might want to try again and see if it errors in the same place, and if not... than there is something wrong on your systems hardware possable, it being an amd i wouldn't doubt it they like to overheat and shutdown when not properly ventelated.




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Re: [gentoo-user] DNS setup

[Roy Kidder]

I'm assuming the zone you are authoritative for on your LAN something
other than skylineaero.com. I'm also assuming that the "external" DNS
points to a NAT'd IP address, not the native IP that is on your network.

The only way to really do it, is to have a "bastard" copy of the zone
running inside your firewall (on your internal DNS server). You have the
A records point to the internal IPs you want people to hit. This method
introduces a level of complexity because it means you now have to make
sure your internal and external records match up with the NAT you're
doing on your firewall.

FWIW, the Cisco PIX will "cleanse" DNS A records for you. The PIX watches
DNS queries that enter its external interface destined for your
nameservers (which are NAT'd to internal DNS servers). When it passes the
packet back to the querying host on the outside, it substitutes the A
record showing the internal IP with an A record showing the NAT'd IP. It
can do this, because it's doing the NAT and it's aware of it. The benefit
here is that you only have one place to manage your DNS records and the
PIX handles the rest.


Andrew Gaffney said:
> I run a Gentoo server at skylineaero.com. I have someone else running my
> DNS for me.
> Inside the LAN, I want to run a full DNS server for boxes inside the LAN.
> That part is
> easy. Here's the hard part. When any computer inside the LAN tries to
> resolve
> skylineaero.com, www.skylineaero.com, etc., I want it to get the LAN IP
> instead of the
> external internet IP. How can I do this?
>
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> 776 North Bell Avenue
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> 636-357-1548
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Re: [gentoo-user] freeBSD partitions table

[Norberto Bensa]

Aaron Walker wrote:
> Roberto Griso wrote:
> > Anyone knows how can i do to mount a freebsd partition?
> >
>
> Not totally sure, but I believe FreeBSD uses the UFS filesystem.. Just

Also there's an option in the kernel config. Something about "advanced 
partition" ... let me check...

[few seconds later]

Ok, on the 2.6 kernel is:

File Systems
Partition Types
Advanced partition selection
PC BIOS (MSDOS partition tables) support
BSD disklabel (FreeBSD partition tables) 
support


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[gentoo-user] QT Compile Failure... A Plea...

[Matt Neimeyer]

I'm still getting errors in trying to compile QT... here's the latest
failure... Any advice?

Thanks!

Matt

g++ -c -pipe -fno-exceptions -Wall -W -O2 -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_SHARED
-DQT_TABLET_SUPPORT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT
-DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_NO_CUPS -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DQT_BUILTIN_GIF_READER=1 -DQT_NO_STYLE_MAC
-DQT_NO_STYLE_AQUA -DQT_NO_STYLE_INTERLACE -DQT_NO_STYLE_WINDOWSXP
-DQT_NO_STYLE_COMPACT
-I/var/tmp/portage/qt-3.2.3-r1/work/qt-x11-free-3.2.3/mkspecs/linux-g++
-I. -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I3rdparty/opentype -I../include
-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I.moc/release-shared-mt/ -o
.obj/release-shared-mt/qprinter_unix.o kernel/qprinter_unix.cpp
../include/qstringlist.h:62: internal error: Segmentation fault
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See http://bugs.gentoo.org/> for instructions.
make[1]: *** [.obj/release-shared-mt/qprinter_unix.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/qt-3.2.3-r1/work/qt-x11-free-3.2.3/src'
make: *** [sub-src] Error 2
 
!!! ERROR: x11-libs/qt-3.2.3-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 109, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)


And here's my emerge info... if it helps any...

Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.10
Portage 2.0.49-r21 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r9,
2.4.22-gentoo-r5)
=
System uname: 2.4.22-gentoo-r5 i586 AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-march=k6 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i586-pc-linux-gnu"
COMPILER="gcc3"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config
/usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=k6 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs ccache sandbox"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.noved.org/ http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/
ftp://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/";
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=""
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X apm arts avi berkdb crypt directfb encode fam fbcon gdbm gif gpm
imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad maildir mbox mikmod motif moznocompose
moznoirc moznomail moznoxft mpeg mpeg4 ncurses nls offensive oggvorbis
opengl oss pam pcmcia pdflib perl png pnp python qt quicktime readline
samba sdl slang spell ssl svga tcpd tiff truetype usb wmf x86 xine xml2
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Re: [gentoo-user] QT Compile Failure... A Plea...

[lukas]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 06:00, Matt Neimeyer wrote:

> I'm still getting errors in trying to compile QT... here's the latest
> failure... Any advice?
>
> ../include/qstringlist.h:62: internal error: Segmentation fault

Did you always get the same error when you try to compile qt?

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] DNS setup

[lukas]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 05:39, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

> Dead easy... On your local DNS server:
>
> * emerge dnsmasq
> * mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.dnsmasq
> * echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf
> * echo 'DNSMASQ_OPTS="-r /etc/resolv.dnsmasq"' > /etc/conf.d/dnsmasq
> * add in /etc/hosts entries for skylineaero.com with the *local IP*
> to /etc/hosts. also add in entries for all the boxes on your LAN. *
> rc-update add dnsmasq default
> * /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start
>
> On every other box:
>
> * echo "nameserver IP_OF_YOUR_LOCAL_DNS_SERVER" > /etc/resolv.conf
>
> dnsmasq is just a little server (suitable for < 100 clients) that
> tries to resolve from /etc/hosts, and forwards on to another
> nameserver (your ISP, presumably) if it can't find a match.

Hey that's cool. It's much less work than configuring bind. Can it do
reverse lookups?

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] DNS setup

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:11:06 -0600 Andrew Gaffney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I run a Gentoo server at skylineaero.com. I have someone else running
| my DNS for me. Inside the LAN, I want to run a full DNS server for
| boxes inside the LAN. That part is easy. Here's the hard part. When
| any computer inside the LAN tries to resolve skylineaero.com,
| www.skylineaero.com, etc., I want it to get the LAN IP instead of the 
| external internet IP. How can I do this?

Dead easy... On your local DNS server:

* emerge dnsmasq
* mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.dnsmasq
* echo "nameserver 127.0.0.1" > /etc/resolv.conf
* echo 'DNSMASQ_OPTS="-r /etc/resolv.dnsmasq"' > /etc/conf.d/dnsmasq
* add in /etc/hosts entries for skylineaero.com with the *local IP* to
/etc/hosts. also add in entries for all the boxes on your LAN.
* rc-update add dnsmasq default
* /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start

On every other box:

* echo "nameserver IP_OF_YOUR_LOCAL_DNS_SERVER" > /etc/resolv.conf

dnsmasq is just a little server (suitable for < 100 clients) that tries
to resolve from /etc/hosts, and forwards on to another nameserver (your
ISP, presumably) if it can't find a match.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[Nicholas Hockey]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 22:52, Phil Barnett wrote:

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On Wednesday 28 January 2004 9:58 pm, Nicholas Hockey wrote:

> btw, congrats on getting your licence, i just passed my tech licence
> last weekend, and am still awaiting my call sign, maby i'll run into you
> sometime (when 6 metres is open, beacuse i don't think 2m will cut it,
> hehe)

Thanks.

It's funny. I was going down to meet my friend that gives the tests a letter 
he needed for legal stuff in our LUG. He said, while you're here, take the 
test, it's just $12. So, I did and passed tech and then they said... The $12 
gets you as many tests as you can pass. I took the General and passed that. 
So I tried the Extra and missed passing by 8 points. Now I gotta get my code 
so I can keep my general test. I have a year to get 5 wpm. Should be easy.

And, 2 meters and 70 cm is probably a more sure bet than 6 because of IRLP. 
Pretty cool use of the internet to interconnect repeaters. But it depends on 
if someone is running an IRLP repeater node near you. I have 4 of them here.

http://www.irlp.net

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yah i didn't figure in irlp or anything, but i am in ga. tenn. etc. quite often i'll look for yah down there on 2metres sometime, again congrats. there is one not to far from here. Node 2750 out of kingston ontario is the closest to me here, and i can usualy hear it well enough here, infact if yah wanna try and hit me, i'm listening on it right now, my friend is my resident extra, well i'm his resident technician(when the damn fcc gets done fiddling around), since it's his house i guess, but if yah wanted to try were listening.



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Re: [gentoo-user] DNS setup

[lukas]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 05:11, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

> I run a Gentoo server at skylineaero.com. I have someone else running
> my DNS for me. Inside the LAN, I want to run a full DNS server for
> boxes inside the LAN. That part is easy. Here's the hard part. When
> any computer inside the LAN tries to resolve skylineaero.com,
> www.skylineaero.com, etc., I want it to get the LAN IP instead of the
> external internet IP. How can I do this?

If you configure your internal DNS so that it can resolve skylineaero.com
it's IMHO no Problem (tell him just the internal IP).
The internal DNS should only forward the query to an external DNS if he
don't know the answer by itself.
But I'm not a DNS profi. Maybe I'm absolutely wrong.

cu

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[gentoo-user] DNS setup

[Andrew Gaffney]

I run a Gentoo server at skylineaero.com. I have someone else running my DNS for me. 
Inside the LAN, I want to run a full DNS server for boxes inside the LAN. That part is 
easy. Here's the hard part. When any computer inside the LAN tries to resolve 
skylineaero.com, www.skylineaero.com, etc., I want it to get the LAN IP instead of the 
external internet IP. How can I do this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Command Line Mail Clients?

[Richard Kilgore]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 09:52:04PM -0500, John S J Anderson wrote:
> Anupam Kapoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louis C. Candell) writes:
> >
> >> Anupam Kapoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>> Matthew Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>  Gnus!
> >>>
> >>> but i am under the impression that you _need_ emacs for gnus to
> >>> run. how can you do it from the command line ?
> >>
> >> emacs -nw -f gnus
> >
> > but that's not the same as mail now is it ? 
> 
>   I'm not sure what you mean. The requirement was "CLI mail client
>   that does GPG and MailDir". "emacs -nw -f gnus" fits all those
>   requirements. So does "xemacs -nw -f gnus". 

There is a difference between a command-line application, like
cat, awk, and grep, and an application that runs in a terminal
window.  Command-line applications lend themselves to automation
and scripting, but terminal-based applications do not.  However,
it is not uncommon for a terminal-based application to support
command-line invocation.

Mutt is a good example.  It is a terminal-based application,
which means that you can use it when you are connected remotely
with only a text-based interface (i.e., a terminal).  But to use
it in a shell script, you use its command-line capabilities.  I
have a Z-shell function in my .zshrc that sends a short message
and any attachments I provide as arguments:

towork () {
msg=$1 ; shift
attachments=""
for a in $@ ; do
attachments=($attachments '-a' "$a")
done
echo -e "$msg\n" | mutt -s "$msg" $attachments \
-e 'set record = ""' \
-e 'set save_name = no' \
-e 'set force_name = no' \
work
}

As you can see, it's quite capable as a command-line utility.
The -e arguments tailor mutt's behavior for this invocation, and
work is an alias in my .muttrc file for my work e-mail address.

While emacs can certainly be used as a terminal application, I'm
not so sure if it is a capable command-line mail client, and I
know that the example command lines mentioned by others were
designed to use it as a terminal application.

- richard

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On Wednesday 28 January 2004 9:58 pm, Nicholas Hockey wrote:

> btw, congrats on getting your licence, i just passed my tech licence
> last weekend, and am still awaiting my call sign, maby i'll run into you
> sometime (when 6 metres is open, beacuse i don't think 2m will cut it,
> hehe)

Thanks.

It's funny. I was going down to meet my friend that gives the tests a letter 
he needed for legal stuff in our LUG. He said, while you're here, take the 
test, it's just $12. So, I did and passed tech and then they said... The $12 
gets you as many tests as you can pass. I took the General and passed that. 
So I tried the Extra and missed passing by 8 points. Now I gotta get my code 
so I can keep my general test. I have a year to get 5 wpm. Should be easy.

And, 2 meters and 70 cm is probably a more sure bet than 6 because of IRLP. 
Pretty cool use of the internet to interconnect repeaters. But it depends on 
if someone is running an IRLP repeater node near you. I have 4 of them here.

http://www.irlp.net

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[gentoo-user] browsing windows network shares

[David H. Askew]

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heres the setup ...  2 laptops ...

my laptop - running kde and lisa 

my work-laptop - running win2k

I've setup lisa and started it.  Lisa finds the win2k host, but when I go to 
browse it, it asks for a username and password.  Ok you might say, enter your 
username and password, but nothing I enter works.

the work-laptop is part of my work domain, and my gentoo laptop is not

what else might I need to do ?  the gentoo laptop sees the smb service running
on the win2k laptop but is unable to browse .. 

.. any help would be appreciated

smbclient output 

bash-2.05b$ smbclient -L 192.168.2.7
added interface ip=192.168.2.4 bcast=192.168.2.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
session request to 192.168.2.7 failed (Called name not present)
session request to 192 failed (Called name not present)
Password:
Anonymous login successful
Domain=[WHQ_NT_DOMAIN] OS=[Windows 5.0] Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager]

Sharename  Type  Comment
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Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED

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Re: [gentoo-user] Virus protection for Evolution users

[Nicholas Hockey]

http://pop3vscan.sourceforge.net/
dunno about any imap ones.

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 22:24, lukas wrote:

On Thursday 29 January 2004 04:06, Mark Knecht wrote:

> work. I was looking for a solution that would just work with
> Evolution, like Norton works with Outlook. Do I really need to run a
> server to get local virus protection? Bummer...

I don't know any solution that can do that (but maybe there is one?).
I have an MTA (sendmail) running, fetching my mail with fetchmail
and uses amavis.
I don't know if evolution has the ability to pipe the mail through an
external program (kmail can do so). Then it is maybe possible to pipe
the mail through amavis (but I've never tested this).

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] Virus protection for Evolution users

[lukas]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 04:06, Mark Knecht wrote:

> work. I was looking for a solution that would just work with
> Evolution, like Norton works with Outlook. Do I really need to run a
> server to get local virus protection? Bummer...

I don't know any solution that can do that (but maybe there is one?).
I have an MTA (sendmail) running, fetching my mail with fetchmail
and uses amavis.
I don't know if evolution has the ability to pipe the mail through an
external program (kmail can do so). Then it is maybe possible to pipe
the mail through amavis (but I've never tested this).

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] ntp.conf keeps getting rewritten

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:22:56 -0600
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anybody know why /etc/ntp.conf keeps getting rewritten?  On my 
> machine, it does not get rewritten if I start or stop the service via 
> /etc/init.d/ntpd stop or start, however it is ALWAYS rewritten with a 
> version that points locally when the machine is rebooted.  I have not 
> found what is causing this.


Yeah, dhcp does that.


add a -N to the options (etc/conf.d/net )  for dhcpcd and it won't do
that anymore.


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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[lukas]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 03:48, Nicholas Hockey wrote:

> On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 21:32, lukas wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 January 2004 03:09, Phil Barnett wrote:
> > > level to use something like Carnivore or it's equivalent. As far
> > > as I know, states do not have the power to monitor interstate
> > > electronic traffic.
> >
> > I won't make a bet about that. ;)
> >
> > cu
> >
> > lukas
>
> neither would i, beacuse of the "Patriot Act" passed not long after
> the sept. 11 happening, it has been denied several times by congress,
> and finaly passed while congress was blinded by the happenings. This
> "Act" is a pile of dog *beep* as far as i'm concerned, it basicly
> allows the goverment, local or national, to monitor anything you say
> or do in your house without the authorization of a judge.
> http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

I know about that and IMHO you are right, but this discussion leads
probably to a point that is OT (even though it's become more interesting
now :)
Maybe it's better to discuss this not on this list. ;)

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] Virus protection for Evolution users

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 16:12, Manuel McLure wrote:

> Have you tried amavis? It hooks into the postfix delivery chain, and 
> will recursively extract all files from archives and check them for 
> viruses using the antivirus of your choice. So you can be sent a virused 
> exe inside a zip inside an lha inside an arc and it will still catch it.
> 

No, here on my desktop I don't run postfix. We just have that at work. I
was looking for a solution that would just work with Evolution, like
Norton works with Outlook. Do I really need to run a server to get local
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Re: [gentoo-user] ntp.conf keeps getting rewritten

[Brett I. Holcomb]

Are you running dhcp?  If so it will do that but you can add some 
parameters to the config file to stop that.

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
Does anybody know why /etc/ntp.conf keeps getting rewritten?  On my 
machine, it does not get rewritten if I start or stop the service via 
/etc/init.d/ntpd stop or start, however it is ALWAYS rewritten with a 
version that points locally when the machine is rebooted.  I have not 
found what is causing this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Command Line Mail Clients?

[Nicholas Hockey]

mutt. it pwnez



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Re: [gentoo-user] [ot] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[Nicholas Hockey]

btw, congrats on getting your licence, i just passed my tech licence last weekend, and am still awaiting my call sign, maby i'll run into you sometime (when 6 metres is open, beacuse i don't think 2m will cut it, hehe)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Command Line Mail Clients?

[John S J Anderson]

Anupam Kapoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louis C. Candell) writes:
>
>> Anupam Kapoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Matthew Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
 "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Can anybody recommend a command line mail client for UNIX (shells)?
> One requirement is that it is fully compatible with GnuPGP and Maildir

 Gnus!
>>>
>>> but i am under the impression that you _need_ emacs for gnus to
>>> run. how can you do it from the command line ?
>>
>> emacs -nw -f gnus
> but that's not the same as mail now is it ? 

  I'm not sure what you mean. The requirement was "CLI mail client
  that does GPG and MailDir". "emacs -nw -f gnus" fits all those
  requirements. So does "xemacs -nw -f gnus". 

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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[Nicholas Hockey]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 21:32, lukas wrote:

On Thursday 29 January 2004 03:09, Phil Barnett wrote:

> level to use something like Carnivore or it's equivalent. As far as I
> know, states do not have the power to monitor interstate electronic
> traffic.

I won't make a bet about that. ;)

cu

lukas


neither would i, beacuse of the "Patriot Act" passed not long after the sept. 11 happening, it has been denied several times by congress, and finaly passed while congress was blinded by the happenings. This "Act" is a pile of dog *beep* as far as i'm concerned, it basicly allows the goverment, local or national, to monitor anything you say or do in your house without the authorization of a judge.
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html




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Re: [gentoo-user] cat /proc/cpuinfo - Athlon XP or MP..?

[lukas]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 03:37, Stroller wrote:

> indicates it's an MP. Do all Athlons show up as "MP" in
> /proc/cpuinfo, or could it be the case that this has been

No. My Athlon XP doesn't.

model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+

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[gentoo-user] cat /proc/cpuinfo - Athlon XP or MP..?

[Stroller]

I've borrowed an Athlon CPU from my father, to test in a Tyan Tiger 
dual-proc board I have acquired. As far as i knew, this processor is a 
bog-standard Althon XP, but both the BIOS & `cat /proc/cpuinfo` show it 
as an MP.

The markings on the processor start with the letters "AX", which, 
according to this page 
, indicates 
it's an MP. Do all Athlons show up as "MP" in /proc/cpuinfo, or could 
it be the case that this has been misbadged..?

Could be the board causing such an output..?

TIA for any comments,

Stroller.

# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 6
model   : 6
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) MP 1600+
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 1400.083
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips: 2791.83

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[lukas]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 03:09, Phil Barnett wrote:

> level to use something like Carnivore or it's equivalent. As far as I
> know, states do not have the power to monitor interstate electronic
> traffic.

I won't make a bet about that. ;)

cu

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[gentoo-user] ntp.conf keeps getting rewritten

[Thomas T. Veldhouse]

Does anybody know why /etc/ntp.conf keeps getting rewritten?  On my 
machine, it does not get rewritten if I start or stop the service via 
/etc/init.d/ntpd stop or start, however it is ALWAYS rewritten with a 
version that points locally when the machine is rebooted.  I have not 
found what is causing this.

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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

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On Wednesday 28 January 2004 8:27 pm, Eric Paynter wrote:

> In most jurisdictions no such law exists. That's why there are
> *investigations* where, after the authorities suspect criminal
> acivity, they start to monitor. They keep their own logs and once
> they have enough, they make an arrest.

> Criminals rarely commit just one crime. They usually keep at it
> until they are caught. So if you suspect somebody, you usually don't
> have to wait too long to catch them at it again.

Agreed. And the investigation would most likely be at the Federal level to use 
something like Carnivore or it's equivalent. As far as I know, states do not 
have the power to monitor interstate electronic traffic.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage gone crazy? It wants 30+ packages to update SpamAssassin

[Malte S. Stretz]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 02:40 CET Spider wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:36:25 +0100 "Malte S. Stretz" wrote:
> > So what's the purpose of the --update switch, or better? Does it tell
> > emerge to recursively look at each and every dependecy and update it
> > if any newer version is available?
>
> as Ive come to understand it:
> -u searches for updates.  if you have direct dependencies of a package.
>   (foo needs bar >2.1 )   it will check for updates for all theese, and
> follow backwards.
>
>
> just doing "emerge foo"   will only scan if you hit the "minimum
> required" dep, and be satisfied with that, even if it isn't the latest
> version avaiable.
>
>
> So, you have :
> foo-1.4  (latest is 2.3)
> bar-2.2 (latest is 2.4)
>
> and foo-2.3 depends on bar-2.1 or higher .
>
> this gives that :
> emerge foo :  installs foo-2.3
> emerge -u foo : installs foo-2.3 -and- bar-2.4
>
> This also goes downwards, by checking each package foo, and bar depends
> on, and so on until you cant find more packages.

Ok, that makes sense if you really think about it. In the end an update is 
nothing more than a new merge of the package. The difference I saw between 
the normal merge and --update till now is more like the functionality of 
the autoclean FEATURE (IIRC, might also be some other option). So maybe 
--deep-update would have been a better name for --update :)

> > But if so, what if a package I want to update needs another one to be
> > upgraded. Is there any way (except stating the dependency explicitly
> > on the command line) to have that one upgraded, too, without standing
> > in front of a whole ~x86 system after it's finished?
>
> explicit dependencies will be dealt with "no matter what" .  See
> previous paragraph for examples.
>
> still wondering? don't be too afraid to ask ;)

Nah, think I grokked it now. Thanks :)

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] depscan.sh problem

[Dan Noe]

Ok, this is my first crack at a very strange problem:

When I insert my wireless card, cardmgr runs a script which calls
/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 .. I'm sure others have a similar situation.
In my logs I see: 

Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon cardmgr[29621]: +  * Could not get dependency info for "
net.wlan0"!
Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon rc-scripts: Could not get dependency info for "net.wlan0
"!
Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon cardmgr[29621]: +  * Please run:
Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon rc-scripts: Please run:
Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon cardmgr[29621]: + 
Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon cardmgr[29621]: +  *   # /sbin/depscan.sh
Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon rc-scripts:   # /sbin/depscan.sh
Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon cardmgr[29621]: + 
Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon cardmgr[29621]: +  * to fix this.
Jan 28 20:41:32 gryphon rc-scripts: to fix this.

However, everything works fine.  If I run /sbin/depscan.sh (to fix this...)
it completes successfully yet the message continues to appear.  Now, the
strange part is this message does not occur when bringing these interfaces
up by hand (executing /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 or whatever from the shell).

Any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage gone crazy? It wants 30+ packages to update SpamAssassin

[Spider]

begin  quote
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:36:25 +0100
"Malte S. Stretz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >
> > Just elimate the "u" from you command. U or u will apply in a global
> > fashion.
> 
> It actually seems to work, but now *I* am confused :) I've always used
> -u, but must admit that I don't istall stuff from ~x86 very often. And
> the manpage isn't very here.
>
> So what's the purpose of the --update switch, or better? Does it tell
> emerge to recursively look at each and every dependecy and update it
> if any newer version is available?


as Ive come to understand it:
-u searches for updates.  if you have direct dependencies of a package.
  (foo needs bar >2.1 )   it will check for updates for all theese, and
follow backwards.


just doing "emerge foo"   will only scan if you hit the "minimum
required" dep, and be satisfied with that, even if it isn't the latest
version avaiable.


So, you have :
foo-1.4  (latest is 2.3)
bar-2.2 (latest is 2.4)

and foo-2.3 depends on bar-2.1 or higher .

this gives that :
emerge foo :  installs foo-2.3
emerge -u foo : installs foo-2.3 -and- bar-2.4

This also goes downwards, by checking each package foo, and bar depends
on, and so on until you cant find more packages.




> But if so, what if a package I want to update needs another one to be 
> upgraded. Is there any way (except stating the dependency explicitly
> on the command line) to have that one upgraded, too, without standing
> in front of a whole ~x86 system after it's finished?


explicit dependencies will be dealt with "no matter what" .  See
previous paragraph for examples.



still wondering? don't be too afraid to ask ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Command Line Mail Clients?

[Bill Rucker]

Somewhere around Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 04:20:31PM -0800, a message
from Anupam Kapoor went like this:
> Can anybody recommend a command line mail client for UNIX (shells)?
> One requirement is that it is fully compatible with GnuPGP and Maildir

How about mutt? I just started using it and have been following the
mutt-users mailing list. Apparently it is quite adept at GnuPG and I use it
with maildir. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] help me please!!! cannot read/write home directory

[Dan Noe]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 05:19:40PM -0800, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
> No, if /home itself does not have the +x bits on, he will need to change 
> the permission of /home.
> 
> as root:
> 
> chmod 755 /home
> 
> If /home is 700 (I previously mistyped 600) and owned by root, then the 
> permissions for /home/borisych won't matter. He can't get to "borisych" 
> if "home" won't allow him execute permission as a regular user.

This is true:  However, in this situation (700) root could still access
and change to the directory.  If the directory mode is 600, strange
things happen.

> Since he keeps greping the output of the commands he's using it is hard 
> to diagnose This might not be the problem at all... ;)

Reminds me of the good old "My computer doesn't work!".  Ooookay... how
about telling me something that will contribute towards a solution? :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[Eric Paynter]

Phil Barnett said:
> Show me a law that states that I have to keep logs for a specific
> period of  time.

In most jurisdictions no such law exists. That's why there are
*investigations* where, after the authorities suspect criminal
acivity, they start to monitor. They keep their own logs and once
they have enough, they make an arrest.

Criminals rarely commit just one crime. They usually keep at it
until they are caught. So if you suspect somebody, you usually don't
have to wait too long to catch them at it again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] help me please!!! cannot read/write home directory

[Bryan Whitehead]

Dan Noe wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 03:05:14PM -0800, Bryan Whitehead wrote:

I bet your /home directory is owned by root (as it should be) with 600 
permission. Since you have no access as a regular user to /home, you can 
never get to /home/borisych


The solution to this is to become root in the / directory and execute:

chmod 700 /home/borisych

There are few cases when a directory should not have execute permissions.
Try to avoid it.
Dan

No, if /home itself does not have the +x bits on, he will need to change 
the permission of /home.

as root:

chmod 755 /home

If /home is 700 (I previously mistyped 600) and owned by root, then the 
permissions for /home/borisych won't matter. He can't get to "borisych" 
if "home" won't allow him execute permission as a regular user.

Since he keeps greping the output of the commands he's using it is hard 
to diagnose This might not be the problem at all... ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

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On Wednesday 28 January 2004 7:30 pm, Nuckerl Stefan wrote:

> Oh god, you own your little server, hows that. I don't want to sound like
> an asswhole, but I need to clear things up for you.
> You are no ISP, ISPs have to keep logs.

Yes, you do, yes, I am and no, they don't.

I have my own block of addresses.

I have hundreds of domains and thousands of email accounts on my server.

Show me a law that states that I have to keep logs for a specific period of 
time.

And, yes, this has wandered far off topic for Gentoo User. Take it to private 
mail if you wish.

Most anonymisers don't keep any logs at all. It's a privacy issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

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On Wednesday 28 January 2004 3:12 pm, Nuckerl Stefan wrote:

> Just to let you know any connection you do to any
> machine is logged by your provider (time + IP). So faking an emailname
etc.
> won't help because they have to prove, that the you really did it and
> that's going to be impossible if you didn't do it.

>I own my own server. The mail logs rotate away in 24 hours. There is no law
>that states I must keep them for any period of time. In fact, the longer I
>keep them, the more liable to produce them I may become.

Oh god, you own your little server, hows that. I don't want to sound like an
asswhole, but I need to clear things up for you.
You are no ISP, ISPs have to keep logs.
Whoever provides your connection has to keep logs dude.
Guess how they catch hackers 
So don't come up with that crap I own my own server.
Have you ever been to court, when they come up with
a 5 meter long sheet where all your connections are listed 

The way hackers don't get caught is to get a line where no one can tell who
used it.


To sue you they have to prove, that you commited the crime and they can only
do that by proving, that your connection was used and that is done by
tracing back the IPs through logs, you are only in deep shit if someone
hacked into your box used your connection to do some dirty tricks and you
can't prove it because you have no logs :-)
Then he sends a email from your box, he uses no signature, of course now you
tell the jury, hey I always sign my message, this message isn't mine it
doesn't have my sig.
So if there is no signature on it, how can one tell if you send it or
someone else send it :-)
Folks this is lame,  GPG won't help you.


So to say it again, GPG won't help you in case someone faked your
emailadress, you won't be able to prove shit, because no one can guarantee,
that you added a signature to the mail. The only thing GPG is good for is
for someone that receives the mail, he can tell if he can trust this message
or if he should be careful, because your signature is not there and
therefore it isn't guaranteed, that is was you, got that?






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Re: [gentoo-user] Command Line Mail Clients?

[Anupam Kapoor]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louis C. Candell) writes:

> Anupam Kapoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Matthew Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
 Can anybody recommend a command line mail client for UNIX (shells)?
 One requirement is that it is fully compatible with GnuPGP and Maildir
>>>
>>> Gnus!
>>
>> but i am under the impression that you _need_ emacs for gnus to
>> run. how can you do it from the command line ?
>
> emacs -nw -f gnus
but that's not the same as mail now is it ? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[lukas]

On Wednesday 28 January 2004 05:32, lukas wrote:

> On Wednesday 28 January 2004 05:03, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> > It would seem that  pgp.mit.edu and keyserver.net do not
> > communicatie ... and frankly, that surprises me alot.  Any idea why
> > they do not? These are two major servers!
>
> That's very strange indeed.
[...]
> I'll write a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I'm afraid it will
> be useless.

So I've wrote a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and today I got this answer from  pgp.mit.edu:

--
Hi,

> I don't know if you are the right contact persons for my concern but your
> addresses are the only ones available on www.keyserver.net and pgp.mit.edu.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the correct address for pgp.mit.edu

> I've noticed that there are no updates between keyserver.net and
> pgp.mit.edu which is strange, because both servers are major-servers.
> I don't know if this failure (if it is one) is caused by keyserver.net or
> by pgp.mit.edu, so I send this mail to both sites.
> 
> These "update failure" causes some confusion on several mailing-lists
> and so I hope that you can inform me about the reason.

The last time I tried, which was admitedly a while ago, I was unable
to get in touch with anyone associated with keyserver.net in order to
set up a link between the two keyservers.  If anyone at keyserver.net
is reading this and can direct me to the right person, please let me
know.
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So it might be better to use pgp.mit.edu instead of keyserver.net
because their service seems to be broken.

cu

lukas


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

[Shawn]

See my email.

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:58, lukas wrote:
> On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:40, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
> 
> > > Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
> > > and then type "arp -a". Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
> > > your network.
> > >
> > :-) Good advice, but how can u ping "your" network broadcast
> >
> > address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
> > is not installed/broken ...)
> >
> > U have to use  "ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255" instead,
> > but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...
> 
> That's right. :)
> If you really don't know any network adresses this is not the
> right method and I really don't know how to do it correctly.
> Is it possible to physicaly isolate the dhcp-server? Then you
> can connect only one client to it, and the broadcast should
> work.
> 
> cu
> 
> lukas

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Re: [gentoo-user] Virus protection for Evolution users

[Manuel McLure]

Mark Knecht wrote:

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 09:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi,
  This was exactly the scenario. This new worm can be embedded in a zip
file. Simple Postfix attachment filters don't reject it. 


I disagree, postfix can stop those attachments, if you got a
/etc/postfix/mime_header_checks.regexp
and it contains this rule
/filename=\"?(.*)\.(bat|chm|cmd|com|do|exe|hta|jse|rm|scr|pif|vbe|vbs|vxd|xl)\"?$/
  REJECT For security reasons we reject attachments of this type
/^\s*Content-(Disposition|Type).*name\s*=\s*"?(.+\.(lnk|asd|hlp|ocx|zip|reg|bat|c[ho]m|cmd|exe|dll|vxd|pif|scr|hta|jse?|sh[mbs]|vb[esx]|ws[fh]|wav|mov|wmf|xl))"?\s*$/
  REJECT Attachment type not allowed. File "$2" has the unacceptable extension "$3"
  
they won't come true.
and change REJECT in to DROP

Patrick


Patrick,
   That's not the point, or at least my point. I don't want to reject
ALL zip files. I only want to reject zip files that have a virus
embedded in them. Please remember the problem I'm trying to address.
Someone sends me a virus infected file inside a zip, which is what has
been happening for the last few days. Zip files have value. I should
accept zip, and even zip with an exe in it, as long as they are not
infected. That requires virus protection TTBOMK.
Have you tried amavis? It hooks into the postfix delivery chain, and 
will recursively extract all files from archives and check them for 
viruses using the antivirus of your choice. So you can be sent a virused 
exe inside a zip inside an lha inside an arc and it will still catch it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

[Shawn]

Crank on your disk and spin your cdrom too.

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:54, lukas wrote:
> On Monday 26 January 2004 20:30, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> 
> > FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get an
> > estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:
> 
> Get an ammeter and a socket. Put the ammeter "in row" (NOT parallell! :)
> with your power circuit and connect it to the socket. Now you can
> measure the amperage flowing through the line. (Before start a
> process that consumes 100%CPU and do something graphic
> intensive work, e.g. a GL-game, start your sound etc. The
> power consumtion should be as high as possible).
> 
> Becase "P = U * I" you can now calculate the electrical power
> by multiplicating the amperage and the voltage.
> But be warned. If you put on your computer, the momentary
> power-consumtion could be much higher than the value you
> have calculated. This method is only good for pre-calculating
> your bill for your electricity company. :)
> If you really wanna be shure that the power-supply in your
> car is sufficient, you should buy an inverter, that is strong
> enough for the worst case (like Brendon Walker has recommended).
> 
> cu
> 
> lukas
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

[lukas]

On Thursday 29 January 2004 00:40, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:

> > Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
> > and then type "arp -a". Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
> > your network.
> >
> :-) Good advice, but how can u ping "your" network broadcast
>
> address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
> is not installed/broken ...)
>
> U have to use  "ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255" instead,
> but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...

That's right. :)
If you really don't know any network adresses this is not the
right method and I really don't know how to do it correctly.
Is it possible to physicaly isolate the dhcp-server? Then you
can connect only one client to it, and the broadcast should
work.

cu

lukas

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

[lukas]

On Monday 26 January 2004 20:30, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:

> FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get an
> estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:

Get an ammeter and a socket. Put the ammeter "in row" (NOT parallell! :)
with your power circuit and connect it to the socket. Now you can
measure the amperage flowing through the line. (Before start a
process that consumes 100%CPU and do something graphic
intensive work, e.g. a GL-game, start your sound etc. The
power consumtion should be as high as possible).

Becase "P = U * I" you can now calculate the electrical power
by multiplicating the amperage and the voltage.
But be warned. If you put on your computer, the momentary
power-consumtion could be much higher than the value you
have calculated. This method is only good for pre-calculating
your bill for your electricity company. :)
If you really wanna be shure that the power-supply in your
car is sufficient, you should buy an inverter, that is strong
enough for the worst case (like Brendon Walker has recommended).

cu

lukas


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Re: [gentoo-user] Virus protection for Evolution users

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 09:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >This was exactly the scenario. This new worm can be embedded in a zip
> > file. Simple Postfix attachment filters don't reject it. 
> 
> 
> I disagree, postfix can stop those attachments, if you got a
> /etc/postfix/mime_header_checks.regexp
> 
> and it contains this rule
> /filename=\"?(.*)\.(bat|chm|cmd|com|do|exe|hta|jse|rm|scr|pif|vbe|vbs|vxd|xl)\"?$/
>REJECT For security reasons we reject attachments of this type
> /^\s*Content-(Disposition|Type).*name\s*=\s*"?(.+\.(lnk|asd|hlp|ocx|zip|reg|bat|c[ho]m|cmd|exe|dll|vxd|pif|scr|hta|jse?|sh[mbs]|vb[esx]|ws[fh]|wav|mov|wmf|xl))"?\s*$/
>REJECT Attachment type not allowed. File "$2" has the unacceptable extension "$3"
>
> they won't come true.
> and change REJECT in to DROP
> 
> Patrick

Patrick,
   That's not the point, or at least my point. I don't want to reject
ALL zip files. I only want to reject zip files that have a virus
embedded in them. Please remember the problem I'm trying to address.
Someone sends me a virus infected file inside a zip, which is what has
been happening for the last few days. Zip files have value. I should
accept zip, and even zip with an exe in it, as long as they are not
infected. That requires virus protection TTBOMK.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

[Shawn]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 17:40, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:
> lukas wrote:
> > On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:45, fisch wrote:
> 
> > Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
> > and then type "arp -a". Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
> > your network.
> > 
> 
> :-) Good advice, but how can u ping "your" network broadcast
> address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
> is not installed/broken ...)

You /can/ do dhcpcd -T -d, and that will give you the ARP of the DHCP
server answering (or at least the bootp helper switch/router).

Then, you find the IP. Maybe run arpwatch and check the cache.

> U have to use  "ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255" instead,
> but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...

More like it's likely it won't even answer. There's no good reason for
ISP infrastructure to answer to broadcast pings.

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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[Phil Barnett]

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On Wednesday 28 January 2004 3:12 pm, Nuckerl Stefan wrote:

> Just to let you know any connection you do to any
> machine is logged by your provider (time + IP). So faking an emailname etc.
> won't help because they have to prove, that the you really did it and
> that's going to be impossible if you didn't do it.

I own my own server. The mail logs rotate away in 24 hours. There is no law 
that states I must keep them for any period of time. In fact, the longer I 
keep them, the more liable to produce them I may become.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

[Norbert Kamenicky]

lukas wrote:
On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:45, fisch wrote:

Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
and then type "arp -a". Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
your network.
:-) Good advice, but how can u ping "your" network broadcast
address if u don't know it ? (Because, e.g. your dhcp client
is not installed/broken ...)
U have to use  "ping -I eth0 -b 255.255.255.255" instead,
but it can happen not only DHCP server answers ...
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[gentoo-user] nvidia

[Manuel Pérez López]

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging mutt with support for threading? [SOLVED]

[Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.]

Mental Patient wrote:
> Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote:
> 
>> It seems the default compile for mutt is to not have support for
>> threading. Is there a mutt specific USE flag for this wonderful feature?
> 
> 
> Really? Are you sure? I've emerged mutt and its threaded... the default
> sort order is by date, but you can change that from within mutt or your
> .muttrc. Inside mutt press "o" then press "t". Does that help? Or error
> or anything?
> 
> 
> 

I'm very sure. Since I'm the only one to use the box I change the global
muttrc file and it tells me it doesn't have support for threading.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mutt
Error in /etc/mutt/Muttrc, line 3346: thread: unknown sorting method

source: errors in /etc/mutt/Muttrc
  Press any key to continue...

I did "o" and "t" from within mutt and that worked.

DOH! *face palm* I double checked the global muttrc
file...I left off the "s" in "threads" :( I really feel stupid now. Now
I'm moved to edit dir colors (black background and dark blue txt don't mix)

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Re: [gentoo-user] help me please!!! cannot read/write home directory

[Dan Noe]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 03:05:14PM -0800, Bryan Whitehead wrote:
> I bet your /home directory is owned by root (as it should be) with 600 
> permission. Since you have no access as a regular user to /home, you can 
> never get to /home/borisych

The solution to this is to become root in the / directory and execute:

chmod 700 /home/borisych

There are few cases when a directory should not have execute permissions.
Try to avoid it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] help me please!!! cannot read/write home directory

[Bryan Whitehead]

Andrew B. Panphiloff wrote:
Today I get next :

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]su - borisych
su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/borisych: Permission
denied
-bash: /home/borisych/.bash_profile: Permission denied
-bash-2.05b$ ls -l /home/ | grep borisych
drwx--2 borisych borisych 4096 Jan 12 17:05 borisych
-bash-2.05b$ id borisych
uid=510(borisych) gid=511(borisych) groups=511(borisych)
-bash-2.05b$ logout
-bash: /home/borisych/.bash_logout: Permission denied
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]cp -rp /home/borisych /home/borisych1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]rm -fr /home/borisych
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]mv /home/borisych1 /home/borisych
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]su - borisych
[EMAIL PROTECTED] borisych]$ 

I think that problem in kernel, but how solve it ?
Due to my low expirience in English, I can't clear
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Do an ls of /home without grepping.

Or do an ls of / only (no grep).

I bet your /home directory is owned by root (as it should be) with 600 
permission. Since you have no access as a regular user to /home, you can 
never get to /home/borisych

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerging mutt with support for threading?

[Mental Patient]

Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote:
It seems the default compile for mutt is to not have support for
threading. Is there a mutt specific USE flag for this wonderful feature?
Really? Are you sure? I've emerged mutt and its threaded... the default 
sort order is by date, but you can change that from within mutt or your 
.muttrc. Inside mutt press "o" then press "t". Does that help? Or error 
or anything?



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[gentoo-user] Re: audio streaming with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4

[mikep]

James Lee wrote:

Try using an mm-series kernel and make sure you have the preemptible
kernel option enabled.
OK thanks to _all_ for your checking. So its probably something in my 
kernel config. Anyone want to email/or post their working kernel config, 
so i can have a benchmark to check. TIA

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Re: [gentoo-user] audio streaming with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4

[James Lee]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 11:53 -0500, mikep wrote:
> If i stream audio (mp3,ogg.real) from the net with xmms or realplayer 
> using any of the latest 2.6 kernels and try to use my browser (firebird) 
> either my browser freezes or xmms drops the connection.
> 
> Using any of the latest 2.4 kernels this works perfectly fine. I have 
> tried different kernel configs and browsers.
> 
> Is anyone streaming audio and browsing the web with kernel 2.6 with no
> performance issues?
> 
> 
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Try using an mm-series kernel and make sure you have the preemptible
kernel option enabled.

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[gentoo-user] can't boot new system

[Moshe Kaminsky]

Hi,

I'm trying to setup gentoo at home. I'm stuck with the kernel: when the 
boot process starts, everything seems to be ok for a while. Then, I get 
the following line twice:
/linuxrc: 285: test: not found
and then the machine reboot. This happens with both the 2.4.22-gentoo-r5 
and 2.6.1-gentoo-r1 kernels. I'm using genkernel 3.0.1_beta8 to compile 
the kernel, and I pass the parameters mentioned in the genkernel README 
file.

Any help is appreciated
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: audio streaming with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4

[Nuckerl Stefan]

Just tested it, works like a charm, no problem running gentoo-dev-2.6.1 and
xmms 1.2.7


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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[Collins Richey]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:19:04 +
Greg Bolshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 07:00, Collins Richey wrote:
> > I'm such an idiot. I've tried so hard but can't get my head around GnuPG.
> 
> It's really not difficult. What exactly don't you understand? The
> concept of PGP, or how to manage a GPG keyring?
> 
> > I guess I'll just go back to using Windows...
> 
> I found PGP freeware on Windows more confusing that GnuPG. Each to their
> own.

This was just a lark that some wag instigated to prove that From: addresses can be 
compromised - part of the GPG discussion, I presume.  I haven't bothered to track 
through the mail headers.

Just ignore and laugh along with me.


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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

[Tom Wesley]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 19:45, fisch wrote:
> hi,
> i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I find
> out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
> I tried "dhcpd -d eth0" but only my IP/MAC were shown.
> please help
> fisch

/var/lib/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info contains this information on my system.

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[gentoo-user] emerging mutt with support for threading?

[Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.]

It seems the default compile for mutt is to not have support for
threading. Is there a mutt specific USE flag for this wonderful feature?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: audio streaming with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4

[Ian Truelsen]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:42:57 -0500
mikep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nuckerl Stefan wrote:
> > Could you give us a test url so we can try to reproduce that?
> > 
> > I haven't listened to any mp3 streams in a long time
> 
> This one for wcpe cassical has streams for mp3,ogg and realaudio
> 
> http://wcpe.org/internet.shtml
> 
Works fine here. XMMS 1.2.7 and gentoo-dev-sources 2.6.1

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

[Tom Wesley]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 19:45, fisch wrote:
> hi,
> i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I find
> out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
> I tried "dhcpd -d eth0" but only my IP/MAC were shown.
> please help
> fisch

/var/lib/dhcpc/dhcpcd-eth0.info contains this information on my system.

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

[lukas]

On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:45, fisch wrote:
> hi,
> i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I
> find out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
> I tried "dhcpd -d eth0" but only my IP/MAC were shown.

Do you maybe mean "dhcpcd -d eth0", but it makes no difference,
you will only see your IP/MAC. :)

Just do a broadcast ping (ping -b BROADCASTIP) in your network
and then type "arp -a". Now you should see all IPs/MACs in
your network.

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

[Norbert Kamenicky]

fisch wrote:
hi,
i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I find
out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
I tried "dhcpd -d eth0" but only my IP/MAC were shown.
please help
fisch
run dhclient

if it went ok, u'll find all u need somewhere
in /var/???/dhclient-eth0.leases
MAC to any IP on LAN can be find easily by arp command
(ping to IP may be needed, because it's cleaned periodically)
noro

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Re: [gentoo-user] directing program output

[gabriel]

On January 28, 2004 02:17 pm, Diego Zamboni wrote:
> > i run "cvs update > /dev/null" or "cvs update | sed -e
> > 's//yyy/'" it still prints the same thing it always does. 
> > how do i capture this information?
>
> cvs prints many of its messages to standard error (STDERR) instead of
> standard output. In bourne-like shells (including bash), you use 2>
> instead of > to redirect stderr (in csh-like shells it's different). See
> the bash (or csh) man page for more information. Additionally, Google
> found these pages with some information and examples:
>
> http://tomecat.com/jeffy//shredir.html
> http://www.losurs.org/docs/redirection
>
> In your example, if you wanted to pass both stdout and stderr (this is,
> everything cvs prints out) to a command, you could simply do:
>
> cvs update 2>&1 | sed -e 's//yyy/'
>
> If you wanted to pass only stderr, it gets more complicated:
>
> (cvs update > /dev/null) 2>&1 | sed -e 's//yyy/'
>
> Again: these examples work only in Bourne shell and its derivatives.

wow, thanks.  just one last question:  why does cvs do this?  isn't STDOUT the 
"standard" place to pipe outgoing information?

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Re: [gentoo-user] GPG and KMail

[lukas]

On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:17, Gard Spreemann wrote:

> This is my first post to a mailing list... ever. So please bear with
> me. I've been trying to get GPG working inside KMail for some time
> now, and have followed various documentation, including
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml and
> http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html.
> I am pretty sure that I've got GPG set up correctly, but something is
> fishy about the KMail integration.

Can you encrypt files using GPG? You should test this first.
Check also the trust-value of your key-pair. To do this type 
gpg --edit-key YOURKEY
Now you can see/edit the trust-values. Kmail will not use your
key, if the trust-values are not set correctly (e.g. -/- is not good :)

> This info is probably a bit lacking, but what I am wondering is how
> YOU have your GPG and KMail set up and integrated.
> I'm using KMail 1.5.4 and gpgme 0.3.15 (using the
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~stuart/packages/ gpgme ebuild). I have also
> tried with gpgme 0.4.0.

Thera are two ways to set up kmail with gpg. The first is to use
the integrated pgp-feature of kmail. Then you don't need
anything else (just gpg).
The second one is to use the pgpmime crypto-plugin. This
setup is a little bit more difficult, but it's not too hard.
The advantage of the crypto plugin is that you can also
sign/encrypt your attachements within kmail. That's an
andvantage over signing/encrypt all attachements by hand. :)

What exact is the failure you get? And wich method have you tried?
When you give some information I'm shure that I can help you.

cu

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[gentoo-user] Re: how drives are mapped to files

[Moshe Kaminsky]

+ Jani-Matti H?tinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [27/01/04 11:39]:
> On Tuesday 27 January 2004 11:16, mathieu perrenoud wrote:
> > Le Mardi, 27 Janvier 2004 09.47, Jani-Matti Hהtinen a יcrit :
> > > That is, assuming that you'll plug the gentoo drive into the primary
> > > cable slot. (Which I recommend, since sometimes it's faster)
> >
> > that's not juste a matter of plugging the disc in the "primary cable slot",
> > you've got to set the jumpers correctly.
> 
> I meant the primary slot on the motherboard, not on the cable.

Ok, I tried it. It seems to be as follows: When the computer boots, grub 
thinks that hd0 is the the drive that was booted (the same drive on 
which it is installed). /dev/hd* are mapped according to what you 
described. After I login, it seems that the order is synchronized with 
the order of the /dev/hd*. This created quite a mess for me, but 
fortunately grub has a good command line support. Indeed, much better 
than lilo :-). Anyway, thanks again.

Moshe
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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[Greg Bolshaw]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 07:00, Collins Richey wrote:
> I'm such an idiot. I've tried so hard but can't get my head around GnuPG.

It's really not difficult. What exactly don't you understand? The
concept of PGP, or how to manage a GPG keyring?

> I guess I'll just go back to using Windows...

I found PGP freeware on Windows more confusing that GnuPG. Each to their
own.

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[gentoo-user] lm sensors Asus A7N8X

[Ernie Schroder]

I have finally beaten my i9ntermittant crash problem by replacing the 
motherboard. I have most everything configured but sound and 
lm-sensors. Any advice from someone who has the realtek sound working 
on this board would be welcomed
What is bothering me at the moment is the fact that in lm-sensors, 
though I get good readings on all sensors, -12volts and -5 voltS 
readings show no min or max values:

$ sensors
as99127f-i2c-1-2d
Adapter: SMBus nForce2 adapter at 5500
Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter
VCore 1:   +1.70 V  (min =  +1.76 V, max =  +2.14 V)   ALARM
VCore 2:   +1.68 V  (min =  +1.76 V, max =  +2.14 V)
+3.3V: +3.33 V  (min =  +2.98 V, max =  +3.63 V)
+5V:   +4.84 V  (min =  +4.52 V, max =  +5.48 V)
+12V: +11.97 V  (min = +10.83 V, max = +13.15 V)
-12V: -12.52 V  (min =  -0.00 V, max =  -0.00 V)
-5V:   -4.74 V  (min =  -0.00 V, max =  -0.00 V)
CPU Fan:  3792 RPM  (min = 1500 RPM, div = 2)
Case Fan (rear):
  5487 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)
CPU Temp:+47°C  (limit =  +60°C)
M/B Temp:  +24.4°C  (limit = +120°C, hysteresis = +100°C)
vid:  +1.950 V
alarms:
beep_enable:
  Sound alarm enabled


The processor is running a bit hotter than I'd like but that I can 
fix. The min and max voltage reading would be helpful if I want to 
enable alarms. Has anyone beaten this?
Also, as an aside, xmbmon transposes the cpu and m/b temps. I did 
have to re-lable them in sensors.conf as Asus runs backward and 
"sensors" did, at first transpose the values as well. Do I need to 
remerge mbmon and xmbmon? I assume they use lm-sensors somehow, or do 
I have to live with it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[Collins Richey]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:00:27 -0700
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm such an idiot. I've tried so hard but can't get my head around GnuPG.
> 
> I guess I'll just go back to using Windows...
> 
> Collins - Denver Area - 
> Gentoo stable kernel 2.6.2-rc1
> 

A big Ha! Ha!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts

[Norbert Kamenicky]

Nicholas wrote:
On Friday 23 Jan 2004 10:44 pm, you wrote: 
- snip -
I believe metrics refers to measurements of one or more glyphs, whereas 
kerning refers to adjusting the spacing between pairs of glyphs which should 
fit more closely than the rectangular boxes that can enclose their 
extremities.

Although I haven't used pfaedit (or any other font editor), I had hoped that 
the word 'kerning' would help you find the relevant part of the manual/menu, 
if that is what you mean.
- snip -

Hi, Nick :-)

Yes, I was not familiar with terms (therefore it was
explained in brackets) and it's also possible I missed
the sense of your answer.
Thanks again, I'll try to find kerning relevant part
in docs of pfaedit, if I am in good condition to do so :-).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Some details on PGP and bandwith

[lukas]

On Wednesday 28 January 2004 20:00, Yorian wrote:

> I don't think there is a problem right now, so I think THIS is a
> waste of bandwith ;)

You're right. Sorry. :)

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] Virus protection for Evolution users

[Eric G Ortego]

David Gethings wrote:

I am personally not aware of
any AV software for Linux. I would presume there are none for the above
reasons.
 

f-prot is a virus scanning package for linux that is in portage.
Also several mta's have the ability to do attachment filtering, one 
mta-proxy I like is messagewall, it can easly do virus scanning with 
clamav or f-prot, dns blacklist lookups, and other spam prevention type 
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[gentoo-user] how to find the dhcp server?

[fisch]

hi,
i have a problem in my network - there is a dhcp-server. How can I find
out the IP/MAC of that dhcp-server.
I tried "dhcpd -d eth0" but only my IP/MAC were shown.
please help
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[gentoo-user] Re: audio streaming with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4

[mikep]

Nuckerl Stefan wrote:
Could you give us a test url so we can try to reproduce that?

I haven't listened to any mp3 streams in a long time
This one for wcpe cassical has streams for mp3,ogg and realaudio

http://wcpe.org/internet.shtml

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop 3D Graphics

[Michael Stilson Jr.]

Hey Steven,

I have had pretty good luck so far with the nvidia-glx and 
nvidia-kernel ebuilds on x86 systems (still running the 2.4 kernel). 
The two cards I have configured so far are the GeForce 2 Go in my 
Inspiron 2650 and the GeForce FX 5200 in my tower.

As far as other chips, the ATIs have excellent support (couple of my 
buddies each have some flavor of the Radeons and they always rave about 
'em), but I don't know about the Intels.

Would read through the Desktop Configuration Guide, that's in the docs 
section of the gentoo web site. It doesn't have a ton of details on the 
nvidia stuff, but it will get you started and hopefully point you in 
the directions you need to go to tweak it to maximum potential.

To get started, I just ran XFree86 -configure and it wrote a decent 
config file for both. Most of the available settings that it detects 
for the card are commented out, so you will have to find out what you 
want to do and what works for your card and play around with it to it's 
set the way you want it.

Haven't compiled any games yet (plan on putting q3 on my tower, also), 
but the GL and 3D Xscreensavers run very smooth with no flickers on 
both systems.

If I run into any and solve any problems or if I run across some good 
stuff that would be good for the community, I will post it to this list.

If you want a copy of my XF86Config file, just holler and I will send 
it.

Good luck, but most of all, enjoy!

- michael

On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 01:17 PM, Steven Gill wrote:

Will a Laptop with a GeForce4 440MX GO graphics chipset work with the
nvidia accelerated drivers (to provide 3D for games)?
I want to be able to run a few 3D games (quake3, nwn). I know that the
performance even with the accelerated drivers won't be all that great 
but
it'll be better that no 3D acceleration at all!

If not what laptop chipsets provide 3D capabilities under Gentoo
Linux?(ie. ATI, Intel Extreme Graphics)
Thanx in advance,

Steven.

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Re: [gentoo-user] directing program output

[Diego Zamboni]

 
> i run "cvs update > /dev/null" or "cvs update | sed -e 's//yyy/'" 
> it still prints the same thing it always does.  how do i capture this 
> information?

cvs prints many of its messages to standard error (STDERR) instead of
standard output. In bourne-like shells (including bash), you use 2>
instead of > to redirect stderr (in csh-like shells it's different). See
the bash (or csh) man page for more information. Additionally, Google
found these pages with some information and examples:

http://tomecat.com/jeffy//shredir.html
http://www.losurs.org/docs/redirection

In your example, if you wanted to pass both stdout and stderr (this is,
everything cvs prints out) to a command, you could simply do:

cvs update 2>&1 | sed -e 's//yyy/'

If you wanted to pass only stderr, it gets more complicated:

(cvs update > /dev/null) 2>&1 | sed -e 's//yyy/'

Again: these examples work only in Bourne shell and its derivatives.

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[gentoo-user] GPG and KMail

[Gard Spreemann]

Hi.

This is my first post to a mailing list... ever. So please bear with me.
I've been trying to get GPG working inside KMail for some time now, and have 
followed various documentation, including 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml and 
http://kmail.kde.org/kmail-pgpmime-howto.html. 
I am pretty sure that I've got GPG set up correctly, but something is fishy 
about the KMail integration.
This info is probably a bit lacking, but what I am wondering is how YOU have 
your GPG and KMail set up and integrated.
I'm using KMail 1.5.4 and gpgme 0.3.15 (using the 
http://dev.gentoo.org/~stuart/packages/ gpgme ebuild). I have also tried with 
gpgme 0.4.0.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop 3D Graphics

[Nuckerl Stefan]

Yes


- Original Message - 
From: "Steven Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:17 PM
Subject: [gentoo-user] Laptop 3D Graphics


> Will a Laptop with a GeForce4 440MX GO graphics chipset work with the
> nvidia accelerated drivers (to provide 3D for games)?
> 
> I want to be able to run a few 3D games (quake3, nwn). I know that the
> performance even with the accelerated drivers won't be all that great but
> it'll be better that no 3D acceleration at all!
> 
> If not what laptop chipsets provide 3D capabilities under Gentoo
> Linux?(ie. ATI, Intel Extreme Graphics)
> 
> Thanx in advance,
> 
> Steven.
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Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers

[Nuckerl Stefan]

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Barnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] GnuPG and missing public keys on keyservers




>The only reason I have begun signing my messages is not to prove that they
are
>mine, but to give some legal protection from viruses sending out emails in
my
>name.

>If I can show some consistency that I always sign my messages, then I can
>build a defense should I be hauled into court because someone else
>masqueraded as me.

That's absolute nonsense, if someone used your name that proves nothing,
unless he used your connection your internet password your account.
Because the court will ask your provider to check the connections you have
made and if there is no prove, that your account was used, you can fake what
ever name you want. Just to let you know any connection you do to any
machine is logged by your provider (time + IP). So faking an emailname etc.
won't help because they have to prove, that the you really did it and that's
going to be impossible if you didn't do it.

So the only think this signature does is to help your and maybe your friends
to tell if it was really you :-)
But the court wont give shit about it, even worse if you don't have a
confirmation of an authorative, that this key belongs to you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] audio streaming with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4

[James Lee]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 11:53 -0500, mikep wrote:
> Is anyone streaming audio and browsing the web with kernel 2.6 with no
> performance issues?

So you have Adelphia too...

I have been having no problems listening to di.fm while surfing the web
with my mm-series kernel.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop 3D Graphics

[Jayson Garrell]

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:17, Steven Gill wrote:
> Will a Laptop with a GeForce4 440MX GO graphics chipset work with the
> nvidia accelerated drivers (to provide 3D for games)?
> 
> I want to be able to run a few 3D games (quake3, nwn). I know that the
> performance even with the accelerated drivers won't be all that great but
> it'll be better that no 3D acceleration at all!
> 
> If not what laptop chipsets provide 3D capabilities under Gentoo
> Linux?(ie. ATI, Intel Extreme Graphics)
> 

My Toshiba Satellite Pro 6100 w/ GF2go works fine with the binary nvidia
drivers. 

10641 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2128.200 FPS

Hope that helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Some details on PGP and bandwith

[Mental Patient]

lukas wrote:
Hi folks,

maybe it's OT but I think it's important.

The difference of size between an pgp-signed (2048bit-key) 
and an unsigned mail is about 4800 bit.
Even with a slow 14400 b/s modem connect this will cause an download
delay of < 0.35 s per mail. Let's say you receive 100 mails per day,
then you have to wait about 35s longer till the download is finished.
I think that's not so much waste of bandwith that it will justify the
claim of some users not to use PGP on mailinglists.
The "normal" signatures of some users are often bigger than a
pgp-singnature, so if we wanna safe bandwith, it would be better
to use no signatures instead of use no pgp-signatures.
But sometimes I think every "argument" is good enough to demonise
the use of PGP.
You're overlooking several other important issuese.

It is common place for mailing lists to 'waste' bandwidth by injecting 
extra headers with subscribe/unsubscribe/info data in each and every 
message. These headers when you realize they're in each and every 
message regardless of sender account for more space than all the gpg 
sigs. Additionally, the people that are meant to be helped by said 
headers routinely ignore them and send unsubscribe requests to the list.

The other issue is that when you subscribe to known high traffic lists 
it is reasonable to expect that you can keep up with the traffic. Should 
it become too much of a burden, unsubscribing is easy enough. Its not 
like you're being spammed for no reason.

What I find interresting is all the fuss over gpg, while the extra list 
and user specific x-headers go unmentioned.

In reality tho, the whole gpg 'problem' is a straw man. It consumes less 
bandwidth than the unread threads, rehashes of problems and off topic 
discussions that abound on mailing lists. Pgp signatures are no more of 
a 'problem' than you want them to be for you.

For another fun disccussion, try the HTML in email thread.

My $MUA cannot read your $MESSAGE, therefore your $MESSAGE must be 
broken

My $MUA can read both types of $MESSAGE, therefore your $MUA is feature 
incomplete

Watch for keywords like RFC and 'bloat'. Nevermind that html and pgp are 
open standards and there have been rfc's on how to integrate them into 
email for years... there's still a ton of broken mua's out there that 
grok neither html nor pgp. It is stubbornness and arrogance at its finest.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Some details on PGP and bandwith

[Yorian]

lukas wrote:

Hi folks,

maybe it's OT but I think it's important.

The difference of size between an pgp-signed (2048bit-key) 
and an unsigned mail is about 4800 bit.
Even with a slow 14400 b/s modem connect this will cause an download
delay of < 0.35 s per mail. Let's say you receive 100 mails per day,
then you have to wait about 35s longer till the download is finished.
I think that's not so much waste of bandwith that it will justify the
claim of some users not to use PGP on mailinglists.
The "normal" signatures of some users are often bigger than a
pgp-singnature, so if we wanna safe bandwith, it would be better
to use no signatures instead of use no pgp-signatures.
But sometimes I think every "argument" is good enough to demonise
the use of PGP.

cu

lukas

 

I don't think there is a problem right now, so I think THIS is a waste 
of bandwith ;)

Yorian

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Re: [gentoo-user] directing program output

[Roel Schroeven]

gabriel wrote:
when i run a program like "ls" the output is to STDOUT so i can pipe it or 
redirect it through something like sed or grep.  but cvs doesn't do that.  if 
i run "cvs update > /dev/null" or "cvs update | sed -e 's//yyy/'" 
it still prints the same thing it always does.  how do i capture this 
information?
The information is written to standard error instead of standard output. 
To capture standard error:

cvs update 2> /dev/null

To capture both:

cvs update > /dev/null 2> /dev/null
or
cvs update > /dev/null 2>&1


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Re: [gentoo-user] audio streaming with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4

[Ian Truelsen]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 11:53:31 -0500
mikep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is anyone streaming audio and browsing the web with kernel 2.6 with no
> performance issues?
> 
Works fine for me with the latest xmms stable and gentoo-dev-sources
2.6.1.

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Re: [gentoo-user] directing program output

[Christoph Gysin]

gabriel wrote:
when i run a program like "ls" the output is to STDOUT so i can pipe it or 
redirect it through something like sed or grep.  but cvs doesn't do that.  if 
i run "cvs update > /dev/null" or "cvs update | sed -e 's//yyy/'" 
it still prints the same thing it always does.  how do i capture this 
information?
'>' redirects only STDOUT. If you want to redirect STDERR, you'll need 
to use '2>'. if you want to suppress all output, you can connect the 
streams and redirect them to /dev/null:

cvs update > /dev/null 2>&1

see man bash for further help.

bye, Christoph

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Re: [gentoo-user] Command Line Mail Clients?

[Louis C. Candell]

Anupam Kapoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Matthew Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Can anybody recommend a command line mail client for UNIX (shells)?
>>> One requirement is that it is fully compatible with GnuPGP and Maildir
>>
>> Gnus!
>
> but i am under the impression that you _need_ emacs for gnus to
> run. how can you do it from the command line ?

emacs -nw -f gnus

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[gentoo-user] Laptop 3D Graphics

[Steven Gill]

Will a Laptop with a GeForce4 440MX GO graphics chipset work with the
nvidia accelerated drivers (to provide 3D for games)?

I want to be able to run a few 3D games (quake3, nwn). I know that the
performance even with the accelerated drivers won't be all that great but
it'll be better that no 3D acceleration at all!

If not what laptop chipsets provide 3D capabilities under Gentoo
Linux?(ie. ATI, Intel Extreme Graphics)

Thanx in advance,

Steven.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Automount && SCSI emulation

[Collins Richey]

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:10:00 -0500
Bill Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> > 
> I have gentoo-dev-sources 2.6.1. Both cdrecord and cdrdao work fine
> without scsi emulation.
> -- 

Cool.  I hope the othjers who reported that this doesn't work are reading along.  I 
never have used cdrdao, so I can't prove it one way or the other.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Error emerging cyrus-sasl

[Andrew Farmer]

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 18:49:51 -0800, Thomas T. Veldhouse muttered:
> If you are going to post PGP signed messages, will you please post your 
> public key ... otherwise it is just a waste of all of our bandwidth.

Thanks... and by that we mean "post to a public keyserver, like
pgp.mit.edu".

Though there are some reasons for *not* posting a PGP key publicly -- there
may be some methods by which one could take a public key and turn it back
into a private key that can be used for signing messages. Nobody's managed
to do it yet, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.

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Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Virus protection for Evolution users

[patrick . marquetecken]

> Hi,
>This was exactly the scenario. This new worm can be embedded in a zip
> file. Simple Postfix attachment filters don't reject it. 


I disagree, postfix can stop those attachments, if you got a
/etc/postfix/mime_header_checks.regexp

and it contains this rule
/filename=\"?(.*)\.(bat|chm|cmd|com|do|exe|hta|jse|rm|scr|pif|vbe|vbs|vxd|xl)\"?$/
   REJECT For security reasons we reject attachments of this type
/^\s*Content-(Disposition|Type).*name\s*=\s*"?(.+\.(lnk|asd|hlp|ocx|zip|reg|bat|c[ho]m|cmd|exe|dll|vxd|pif|scr|hta|jse?|sh[mbs]|vb[esx]|ws[fh]|wav|mov|wmf|xl))"?\s*$/
   REJECT Attachment type not allowed. File "$2" has the unacceptable extension "$3"
   
they won't come true.
and change REJECT in to DROP

Patrick

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[gentoo-user] Some details on PGP and bandwith

[lukas]

Hi folks,

maybe it's OT but I think it's important.

The difference of size between an pgp-signed (2048bit-key) 
and an unsigned mail is about 4800 bit.
Even with a slow 14400 b/s modem connect this will cause an download
delay of < 0.35 s per mail. Let's say you receive 100 mails per day,
then you have to wait about 35s longer till the download is finished.
I think that's not so much waste of bandwith that it will justify the
claim of some users not to use PGP on mailinglists.
The "normal" signatures of some users are often bigger than a
pgp-singnature, so if we wanna safe bandwith, it would be better
to use no signatures instead of use no pgp-signatures.
But sometimes I think every "argument" is good enough to demonise
the use of PGP.

cu

lukas

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Re: [gentoo-user] SpamAssassin not as good as before :(

[Andrew Dacey]

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Dacey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SpamAssassin not as good as before :(

> I'm running courier-imap on my box and have spamassassin move any spam
into
> a spam folder (so I can make sure to check for false-positives).

Should clarify that, I mean that I have procmail setup to move messages SA
flags as spam into a spam folder.

Andrew "frugal" Dacey
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Re: [gentoo-user] audio streaming with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4

[Nuckerl Stefan]

Could you give us a test url so we can try to reproduce that?

I haven't listened to any mp3 streams in a long time


- Original Message - 
From: "mikep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 5:53 PM
Subject: [gentoo-user] audio streaming with kernel 2.6 vs 2.4


> If i stream audio (mp3,ogg.real) from the net with xmms or realplayer 
> using any of the latest 2.6 kernels and try to use my browser (firebird) 
> either my browser freezes or xmms drops the connection.
> 
> Using any of the latest 2.4 kernels this works perfectly fine. I have 
> tried different kernel configs and browsers.
> 
> Is anyone streaming audio and browsing the web with kernel 2.6 with no
> performance issues?
> 
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[gentoo-user] directing program output

[gabriel]

when i run a program like "ls" the output is to STDOUT so i can pipe it or 
redirect it through something like sed or grep.  but cvs doesn't do that.  if 
i run "cvs update > /dev/null" or "cvs update | sed -e 's//yyy/'" 
it still prints the same thing it always does.  how do i capture this 
information?

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they said "let us pray."  we closed our eyes.  when we opened them we had the 
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Re: [gentoo-user] recommended SATA controllers

[Alan]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 03:16:49PM -0800, Ajay Sharma wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Alan wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking to upgrade my fileserver with a couple or three SATA
> > drives and a SATA controller (will upgrade the machine itself with a
> > SATA enabled MB sometime next year I think).
> > 
> > I'm wondering what people recommend for offboard SATA controllers.  
> > I've seen many posts on the forums that SATA raid from the silicon
> > image chipset doesn't work, but I'm not worried so much about RAID
> > (will probably use SW raid) as just having a stable set of hard drives
> > available.
> > 
> > Any suggestions for a cheap (<$100) SATA card (raid or non-raid) that
> > is compatible with linux?
> 
> This is an old message, but I just saw it and no one replied.
> 
> I would go with a 3ware SATA card.  My gentoo install went smooth with
> my WD SATA drive because the 3ware card was detected on boot.  Get that,
> no funky patches or anything as the 3ware drivers have been in the
> default kernel for quite some time.  This is my second 3ware card that I
> put Linux on and I'm just amazed at how easy it was.

Hey Ajay, thanks for the belated reply.  I've also heard good things
about 3ware, but when I looked they were a bit above my buget.  Since
this is going to be a data storage drive using SW raid isn't a big deal,
and "nice" (ie: installable) operation isn't essencial.

I ended up going with the promise tx150 (I think that's what it is).  It
was a <$150CND card with sw raid on it (which I played around with a bit
and then gave up) and works dandy with the 2.6.* kernel.  It's been
happily storing my data with software raid1 for the last couple of
months.  

When I upgrade my other server I'll probably look at the 3ware
controller though, unless I put in a full new box (which I'd make sure
that it would have some sort of raid card in it anyway :)

End result, if you're just looking for a plain jane SATA controller and
don't mind 2.6, promise works dandy.  If your budget is a big larger and
you want "real" raid, go 3ware.  Those are at least IMHO :)

alan

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