Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot into system after updates
AWK with xml? BRR! Such a base tool shouldn't ... hmmm, that's not our turn. Is there an ebuild for another version of awk/nawk in the portage? Thanks Frank On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 15:25 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:09:15 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I updated my system and rebooted, only to find that I cannot get back in. As soon as udev tries to start, I get errors about unable to locate libexpat.so.0. I booted from the LiveCD and had no drive issues. I emerged both libexpat and udev to see if either of these were the culprit, but to no avail. I got bitten in the arse by this one too. the problem is the new gawk ebuild, with xml support. If you have xml in your USE flags, gawk is built dynamically linked to libexpat, which isinstalled in /usr/lib. But gawk is used by the rc scripts before partitions other than / are mounted. If you have /usr on a separate partition if barfs, / is left mounted ro, lvm can't mount your virtual partitions because it can't write to /etc/lvm.conf and the world falls apart. it was made worse for me because the messages flashed by too fast to see, and the subsequent errors filled the terminal scrollback buffer :( The short term kludge, to get the system to boot again, is to copy libexpat from /usr/lib to /lib. This works until a libexpat upgrade leaves you with two versions. If you don't need the xml support in gawk, rebuild it with -xml. See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81823 -- Frank Schafer System specialist T-Systems Czech s.r.o. Klobounick 1435/24, 140 00 Praha 4 Tel.: +420 296529522 Fax: +420 296529129 Mobil: +420 605 202 419 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.t-systems.cz -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] runlevels + Single User
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 15:21, Scott Taylor wrote: On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 14:55 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I screwed up a system. I change Xorg's config and now I can't get into the box. SSH won't work because eth0 isn't made to come up _automatically_ :-) Been lazy to update it but not lazy enough to mind having to type in /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart each time :0 I know that one can use the LiveCD to boot and then mount the partitions and edit the files, but I want to know if there's a better way since this box don't have a CDrom handy. In that situation, I add the following to the kernel line in grub: rw init=/bin/bash which gets you in before running even the boot level init scripts Cool.. Ultra Even. Thanks -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 16:21:39 up 7:28, 4 users, load average: 0.50, 0.58, 0.70 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GMail / Forums
On Monday 14 February 2005 11:22 pm, Mike Noble wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:58:42 +, Richard Robson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Guessing this happens on other forums as well but from everyone that who posts to this forum using GMail the reply-to is there own email address where everybody elses is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Is this the same experence for everyone else or is it just me (I'm using Evolution). Ok I thought I would test from the actual web site and see what happens. Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I use GMail as well but I use sendmail and my local email client to read and send to the list. Checking your post I can see the header: Reply-To: Mike Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the list. Can this not be changed when sending from the gmail site ? Chris aka: Onebeer ICQ: 5255916 IRC: freenode.net #gentoo Linux 2.6.10-gentoo-r7 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 02:22:52 up 20:17, 8 users, load average: 1.51, 1.66, 1.82 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] test message - please ignore
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Re: [gentoo-user] big problems on boot
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:09:22 -0500, Luke Albers wrote: Im not sure if this happened after doing an emerge -uD world, or emerge openoffice, but things arent working right anymore. On boot I get all kinds of messages, shortly after udevd starts. Some of them say something about awk and libexpat.so.0: no such file or directory. You have /usr on a separate partition, which breaks the use of the new gawk when called before /usr is mounted. Re-emerge gawk with USE--xml. I posted a longer explanation to the list yesterday, along with a link to the bugzilla entry. -- Neil Bothwick This chicken has no beak, said Tom impeccably. pgpUdf77Dynir.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot boot into system after updates
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:13:58 +0100, Frank Schafer wrote: AWK with xml? BRR! Such a base tool shouldn't ... hmmm, that's not our turn. Is there an ebuild for another version of awk/nawk in the portage? There's no need for another version, just set your USE flags appropriately. -- Neil Bothwick As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly. pgptNd4POYloa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] big problems on boot
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 08:59:50 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: You have /usr on a separate partition, which breaks the use of the new gawk when called before /usr is mounted. Re-emerge gawk with USE--xml. A new gawk has been released, which builds xmlgawk as a separate executable, so gawk is no longer linked to libexpat. -- Neil Bothwick Caution, an incorrigible punster - don't incorrige. pgpTMO9VCFu51.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] runlevels + Single User
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:28:59 -0500, Willie Wong wrote: The other thing would be, How can one use runlevels to signify whether or not we want to boot into nonetwork or default. man init basically you change the entry in /etc/inittab that says id:3:initdefault: to whatever pleases you. Not with gentoo, which uses named runlevels. The correct answer is to append softlevel=nonetwork to the kernel line in GRUB/LILO. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 6: Pretty ugly pgpQXAbyOvxGz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: big problems on boot
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:53:12 -0500, Luke Albers wrote: thanks, I did that and everything worked fine. I re-merged gawk with -xml, and deleted the library from /lib. I havent rebooted yet, but I will see tomorrow if this works. Otherwise, I can just leave the library in /lib. That could break things in future. When an update to libexpat is merged, it will be installed in /usr/lib, but the older version in /lib will be loaded first. Portage will think everything is OK for any programs that depend on the newer version, because it has installed it, but they could fail, resulting in spurious bug reports. Best to just use the -xml version of gawk until this is fixed properly. -- Neil Bothwick Bother said POOH, reloading. pgpJtcyYio64u.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables TARPIT match
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 01:38:05 +, Michael Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do I need to do to enable the TARPIT match in IPTables? I have version 1.2.11 of IPTables and I am running Kernel 2.4.28-gentoo-r5 When I try and add a tarpit rule, such as iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport 80 -j TARPIT I get back iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Any help appreciated. Did you compile load the kernel module for target TARPIT? -- Regards Karol Krzak -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] firefox versus duplex (double-sided) printing?
Hi for everyone,
currently realised that there is something wrong (for me) with printing from
firefox.
My cups setup is a HP 4050 LJ (duplex capable - and set up as every job
should be printed duplex/long-side) printer via jetdirect. Previously (cca. 2
months ago) It went seemless from firefox: if I click the print icon it
printed double-sided.
But for now it's just wrong: it printed on one sided pages, but
only_from_firefox_and_mozilla (for example I can simply print double-sided
from OO.org) which makes me pretty nervous, cause I must print a lot, and
single-sided printing is not an option.
I couldn't find any option for this in about:config.
Tried this printing command:
lpr ${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME:+'-P'}${MOZ_PRINTER_NAME} -o sides=two-sided-long-edge
but it didn't work.
Any idea?
Zsoltik@
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[gentoo-user] Still can't update xfce
I would appreciate it if someone could advise on how to resolve this: terminator root # emerge --update world Calculating world dependencies ...done! !!! Error: the xfce-base/xfce4-base package conflicts with another package. !!!both can't be installed on the same system together. !!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers. terminator root # emerge --update --pretend world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] xfce-base/xfce4-base (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-4.2.0) [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.14 [2.4.13-r1] [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-2.2.5 [2.1.7] (plus lots and lots more xfce-related packages) I have removed any xfce extras I had, which I thought might be causing this. The only xfce-related thing in my world file is xfce-base/xfce4. I also seem to have a problem if I manually update gtk+. The build starts OK: terminator portage # emerge --update gtk+ Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.14 to / md5 src_uri ;-) gtk+-2.4.14.tar.bz2 md5 src_uri ;-) gtk+-2.4-smoothscroll-r1.patch Unpacking source... Unpacking gtk+-2.4.14.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.4.14/work but ends like this: /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1 jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Still can't update xfce
-= Eredeti zenet (Original message) =- Dtum (Date): Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:46:19 + Kld (From): Jim Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cmzett (To): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trgy (Subject): [gentoo-user] Still can't update xfce I would appreciate it if someone could advise on how to resolve this: terminator root # emerge --update world Calculating world dependencies ...done! !!! Error: the xfce-base/xfce4-base package conflicts with another package. !!!both can't be installed on the same system together. !!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers. terminator root # emerge --update --pretend world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] xfce-base/xfce4-base (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-4.2.0) [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.14 [2.4.13-r1] [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-2.2.5 [2.1.7] (plus lots and lots more xfce-related packages) I have removed any xfce extras I had, which I thought might be causing this. The only xfce-related thing in my world file is xfce-base/xfce4. I also seem to have a problem if I manually update gtk+. The build starts OK: terminator portage # emerge --update gtk+ Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.14 to / md5 src_uri ;-) gtk+-2.4.14.tar.bz2 md5 src_uri ;-) gtk+-2.4-smoothscroll-r1.patch Unpacking source... Unpacking gtk+-2.4.14.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.4.14/work but ends like this: /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1 -= Eredeti zenet vge (End of original message) =- Don't know much about that gtk thingy, but for the block thing you can always do some emerge --uD --tree world, which possibly shows which package still depends on xfce4-base... HTH, Zsoltik@ -- Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Online Business Technologies Corp. shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. In such cases Online Business Technologies Corp. will not bear the responsibility of consequences. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the system manager immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. A levelben foglalt, nem az Online Rt. hivatalos uzletmenetevel kapcsolatos velemenyek vagy mas informaciok vonatkozasaban az Online Rt. nem vallal felelosseget. Amennyiben a level valamely hiba folytan jutott Onhoz, kerjuk, hogy valaszlevelben azonnal ertesitse a rendszer uzemeltetojet, majd torolje ki a levelet rendszerebol!
Re: [gentoo-user] Still can't update xfce
Le 02/15/05 Jim Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment: I would appreciate it if someone could advise on how to resolve this: terminator root # emerge --update world Calculating world dependencies ...done! !!! Error: the xfce-base/xfce4-base package conflicts with another package. !!!both can't be installed on the same system together. !!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers. terminator root # emerge --update --pretend world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] xfce-base/xfce4-base (from pkg xfce-base/xfce4-4.2.0) [ebuild U ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.14 [2.4.13-r1] [ebuild U ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-2.2.5 [2.1.7] (plus lots and lots more xfce-related packages) I have removed any xfce extras I had, which I thought might be causing this. The only xfce-related thing in my world file is xfce-base/xfce4. I also seem to have a problem if I manually update gtk+. The build starts OK: terminator portage # emerge --update gtk+ Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) x11-libs/gtk+-2.4.14 to / md5 src_uri ;-) gtk+-2.4.14.tar.bz2 md5 src_uri ;-) gtk+-2.4-smoothscroll-r1.patch Unpacking source... Unpacking gtk+-2.4.14.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.4.14/work but ends like this: /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1 [...] You must definitely unmerge xfce4-base, not needed for xfce4 and conflicting with it: root # emerge -C xfce4-base, and then root # emerge --update world cheers, -- Jean Magnan de Bornier 3 Cours Victor Hugo, 13980 Alleins France Tel: 08 70 39 34 03Port: 06 09 17 35 87 e-mots: jean*at*bornier.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Still can't update xfce
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[gentoo-user] Software Raid and Grub problem?
Am at Linuxworld in Boston. At the Linux System Administration Tutorial, the speaker, Josh Jensen (Cisco, RH, IBM), declared that Grub doesn't support software raid on /boot. Because of this we should NOT use grub with Raid, rather we should use lilo. Lilo does understand /boot is mirrored. I am planning to raid1 my server and was going to follow the gentoo howto for raid which suggests grub and doesn't mention lilo. Opinions? [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Software Raid and Grub problem?
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 11:30, Rick Lapp wrote: Am at Linuxworld in Boston. At the Linux System Administration Tutorial, the speaker, Josh Jensen (Cisco, RH, IBM), declared that Grub doesn't support software raid on /boot. Because of this we should NOT use grub with Raid, rather we should use lilo. Lilo does understand /boot is mirrored. I am planning to raid1 my server and was going to follow the gentoo howto for raid which suggests grub and doesn't mention lilo. Grub doesn't, I'm fairly sure, support raid on /boot, but that does not mean you can't use it with mirroring, I do. Make your mirror in which ever way you like, then install grub onto all partitions involved in the mirror. But, here's the key, you can re-map grub devices to real devices. Here is the interesting bit from a hacked about systemimager script for network installing of boxes (they have 2 hard drives, and all partitions are mirrored over the drives) chroot /a /sbin/grub --batch --no-floppy EOT device (hd0) /dev/hda root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) device (hd0) /dev/hdc root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) quit EOT -- Mike Williams pgpUqaRJJSObH.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] ebuild problems
trying to use the xen ebuild from bugzilla and I've encountered a series ofof problems which have overcome in less than ideal ways and I'd like to try and fix them the right way. The xen source tarball is delivered with a ./xen-2.0/ path and not with the version number is part of the path. As a result $(S) is wrong and I'm wondering what's the right way to handle this? I worked around the problem by rebuilding the tarball with the version number in the path and encountered a situation where it was trying to make a directory in someplace it shouldn't. (/usr/portage/distfiles/install). looking further into the makefile generating the error, it appears that $(DESTDIR) is the culprit. My second question is it legitimate to change DESTFILE or should I create a patch or dynamically edit makefiles to change DESTFILE. If I change it, what do I change it to? ---eric -- http://www.salon.com/books/review/2004/12/18/heloise/index.html The basis of Abelard's philosophy, which he taught to Heloise, was that logic had to be applied to religion in order to arrive at the truth. [ -d /usr/portage/distfiles/install/boot ] || install -d -m0755 /usr/portage/distfiles/install/boot ACCESS DENIED mkdir: /usr/portage/distfiles/install -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: GMail / Forums
On 15-02-05 02:25 -0600, Chris Cox wrote: On Monday 14 February 2005 11:22 pm, Mike Noble wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 19:58:42 +, Richard Robson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Guessing this happens on other forums as well but from everyone that who posts to this forum using GMail the reply-to is there own email address where everybody elses is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. Is this the same experence for everyone else or is it just me (I'm using Evolution). Ok I thought I would test from the actual web site and see what happens. Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I use GMail as well but I use sendmail and my local email client to read and send to the list. Checking your post I can see the header: Reply-To: Mike Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the list. Can this not be changed when sending from the gmail site ? Chris aka: Onebeer ICQ: 5255916 IRC: freenode.net #gentoo Linux 2.6.10-gentoo-r7 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 02:22:52 up 20:17, 8 users, load average: 1.51, 1.66, 1.82 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I see: Reply-To: gentoo-user From: Mike I fetch my mail from GMail and read it at home. pgpf7lzujCE6F.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] X and i810
Chris Cox wro Are you using the latest xorg-x11 ? I see a driver for i810 in /usr/lib/modules. I'm not sure when they added a driver for this video card but I don't remember seeing it in any past versions of XFree86 or xorg-x111. I have installed the latest from Gentoo and I see the driver too. Just can't get it to load the menuconfig says that support for the i810 is experimental. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables TARPIT match
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Michael Thompson wrote: What do I need to do to enable the TARPIT match in IPTables? I have version 1.2.11 of IPTables and I am running Kernel 2.4.28-gentoo-r5 When I try and add a tarpit rule, such as iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport 80 -j TARPIT I get back iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Some modules need to be explicitly loaded with the -m flag. Assuming you have the tarpit modules compiled and installed, you would use this to load it: iptables -A INPUT --protocol tcp --dport 80 -m tarpit -j TARPIT -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] X and i810
What's the issue then ? You can still use it ? not ? Or did I miss out some essentail parts on this thread.. FYI I'm using the driver to my satisfaction with x11-xorg. I have to admin that I had to tweak mplayer a bit for color display. rgds, Peter Doug Lovett wrote: Chris Cox wro Are you using the latest xorg-x11 ? I see a driver for i810 in /usr/lib/modules. I'm not sure when they added a driver for this video card but I don't remember seeing it in any past versions of XFree86 or xorg-x111. I have installed the latest from Gentoo and I see the driver too. Just can't get it to load the menuconfig says that support for the i810 is experimental. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] FYI: One Week With Gentoo Linux Article
If this double posts sorry, not sure if I should post to @lists or @robin so I did both. Not sure if this is a postive article or not, I like to be neutral http://www.linuxtimes.net/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=806 - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Straight To X/KDE
as root type rc-update add xdm default This will start up KDM when you start the machine. Jason On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 22:36 -0700, Mike Melanson wrote: Hi, So my new Gentoo/AMD64 is working quite well since I set it up a few weeks ago. Now I think I would like to make it boot directly into a graphical Windows environment (X/KDE) on startup rather than having to login and type 'startx'. Call me a lame Windows user if you will. What's the way to do this? I seem to recall something involving run level 6. Thanks...
Re: [gentoo-user] runlevels + Single User
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 09:08:37AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: Not with gentoo, which uses named runlevels. The correct answer is to append softlevel=nonetwork to the kernel line in GRUB/LILO. Ooh... I didn't know that. Thanks. W -- * Address: 45 Spelman Hall, Princeton University 08544 * * Phone: x68958 AIM: AngularJerk* *E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: sep.dynalias.net * Hobbes : Shouldn't we read the instructions? Calvin : Do I look like a sissy? Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1 day, 10:56 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Patches
Hi, I need to patch my kernel with: http://shayol.bartol.udel.edu/~rhdt/download/acpi_sbs-20050120.tar.gz to make the battery monitor work. Cause of such tasks I used to use vanilla kernels from kernel.org before gentoo. I had to learn from this forum that the system don't know where the kernel sources are if the kernel sources wasn't installed using emerge. Now my question: The gentoo kernel is heavy patched already. This often leads to failure of further patches. How can I make a copy of the kernel sources before applying the patch and ensure that the system knows furtheron where the kernel sources are? Thanks Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - espersunited.com saga; IMAP and POP3 access
Michael Sullivan wrote: Continuing my efforts to recreate the services on my server PC running FC1 on my client PC running Gentoo so that I can install Gentoo on the server PC I am now to the part where I need to enable IMAP and POP3 access on my client PC. I looked on Google for how to do this, and everything I found said that it was for Postfix. I use Sendmail - it's the only MTA I have a book on. Can anyone point me to a free online resource of how to do this with Gentoo and sendmail? I'd install which ever package is providing IMAP/POP3 on your Fedora system. However, If you're using .maildir format emerge courier-imap If you're using mbox format emerge uw-imap /etc/init.d/$service start It really is that easy unless you need to change anything about the default setup, which you shouldn't need to do unless you're building a virtual system. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Patches
Frank Schafer ha scritto: Hi, I need to patch my kernel with: http://shayol.bartol.udel.edu/~rhdt/download/acpi_sbs-20050120.tar.gz to make the battery monitor work. Cause of such tasks I used to use vanilla kernels from kernel.org before gentoo. I had to learn from this forum that the system don't know where the kernel sources are if the kernel sources wasn't installed using emerge. Now my question: The gentoo kernel is heavy patched already. This often leads to failure of further patches. How can I make a copy of the kernel sources before applying the patch and ensure that the system knows furtheron where the kernel sources are? use emerge -av sys-kernel/development-sources btw the gentoo kernel is not so heavy patched outside the vesa/vesa-tng stuff Ciao francesco Thanks Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Patches
Frank Schafer wrote: Hi, I need to patch my kernel with: http://shayol.bartol.udel.edu/~rhdt/download/acpi_sbs-20050120.tar.gz to make the battery monitor work. Cause of such tasks I used to use vanilla kernels from kernel.org before gentoo. I had to learn from this forum that the system don't know where the kernel sources are if the kernel sources wasn't installed using emerge. Now my question: The gentoo kernel is heavy patched already. This often leads to failure of further patches. How can I make a copy of the kernel sources before applying the patch and ensure that the system knows furtheron where the kernel sources are? Thanks Frank You don't have to use the gentoo-patched sources; vanilla sources are available through Portage as 'development-sources'. Emerge those, patch to your hearts content, and have the best of both worlds... ... if you want to have the best of all worlds possible, copy the development-sources ebuild to your PORTDIR_OVERLAY, edit it to patch the sources automatically with your selected patch (see any gentoo-dev-sources ebuild for the methodology), and emerge that instead of the regular' ebuild. Portage will still know where the sources are, and your patching will be automated. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - espersunited.com saga; IMAP and POP3 access
The problem is that I don't know what's providing IMAP/POP3 on the FC1 box. In redhat-config-services they're just listed as imap and ipop3. I did a full install of FC1 on that box, so all of the packages were already installed; I just had to edit a couple of files in /etc/sysconfig and start the daemons. All I know about the IMAP and POP3 services is that they depend on xinetd. Does that help? On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 09:00 -0600, Kashani wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: Continuing my efforts to recreate the services on my server PC running FC1 on my client PC running Gentoo so that I can install Gentoo on the server PC I am now to the part where I need to enable IMAP and POP3 access on my client PC. I looked on Google for how to do this, and everything I found said that it was for Postfix. I use Sendmail - it's the only MTA I have a book on. Can anyone point me to a free online resource of how to do this with Gentoo and sendmail? I'd install which ever package is providing IMAP/POP3 on your Fedora system. However, If you're using .maildir format emerge courier-imap If you're using mbox format emerge uw-imap /etc/init.d/$service start It really is that easy unless you need to change anything about the default setup, which you shouldn't need to do unless you're building a virtual system. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Patches
Thanks a lot.
Could you tell me what the PORTDIR_OVERLAY is?
I read the ebuild of the gemtoo-dev-sources just now.
Well, there are 2 tarballs with patches. Can someone tell me where
${DISTDIR} is? I'd like to have a look at the tarballs to at least know
what I'm patching. ... or where do I find the genpatches-*?
... and where is ${WORKDIR}? Maybe the _README will tell me what I
want to know.
Thanks in advance
Frank
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 16:08 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
Frank Schafer wrote:
Hi,
I need to patch my kernel with:
http://shayol.bartol.udel.edu/~rhdt/download/acpi_sbs-20050120.tar.gz
to make the battery monitor work.
Cause of such tasks I used to use vanilla kernels from kernel.org before
gentoo. I had to learn from this forum that the system don't know where
the kernel sources are if the kernel sources wasn't installed using
emerge.
Now my question:
The gentoo kernel is heavy patched already. This often leads to failure
of further patches.
How can I make a copy of the kernel sources before applying the patch
and ensure that the system knows furtheron where the kernel sources are?
Thanks
Frank
You don't have to use the gentoo-patched sources; vanilla sources are
available through Portage as 'development-sources'. Emerge those, patch
to your hearts content, and have the best of both worlds...
... if you want to have the best of all worlds possible, copy the
development-sources ebuild to your PORTDIR_OVERLAY, edit it to patch the
sources automatically with your selected patch (see any
gentoo-dev-sources ebuild for the methodology), and emerge that instead
of the regular' ebuild. Portage will still know where the sources are,
and your patching will be automated.
HTH,
Holly
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RE: [gentoo-user] Patches
Well, there are 2 tarballs with patches. Can someone tell me where
${DISTDIR} is? I'd like to have a look at the tarballs to at least know
what I'm patching. ... or where do I find the genpatches-*?
... and where is ${WORKDIR}? Maybe the _README will tell me what I
want to know.
These both reference settings defined in your /etc/make.conf.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - espersunited.com saga; IMAP and POP3 access
Michael Sullivan wrote: The problem is that I don't know what's providing IMAP/POP3 on the FC1 box. In redhat-config-services they're just listed as imap and ipop3. I did a full install of FC1 on that box, so all of the packages were already installed; I just had to edit a couple of files in /etc/sysconfig and start the daemons. All I know about the IMAP and POP3 services is that they depend on xinetd. Does that help? What's the output of: rpm -qa | grep -i imap You might also be able to tell what you're running by looking at the xinetd conf files. Though running IMAP out of xinetd has to be one of the stupidest default settings I've ever heard. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
A1ex wrote: I'm trying to install Gentoo from a UniversalCD using the instructions found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2004.3/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and I must say the instructions could use some editing. The instructions in section 5 for installing from the UniversalCD are so intertangled with those for downloading that it's very difficult to follow them. There are sections that are labelled for CD installation but they seem to bump into download instructions. I prefer to download and install packages after I have a basic Linux system installed.and working. I'm sure it would help others like me who aren't experts if the two methods were separated into two distinct sections that don't switch back and forth between the CD and download procedures. Are instructions available that describe how to do everything from CD without sliding into the download procedure?. alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list It's not just a matter of skipping section 5c if you don't need networking.. Other sections include diversions toward networking.and other options that aren't needed for a basic gentoo installation. The theme of the instructions is about allowing you to choose options during the installation. Well, what about an option where you can do a default installation from the start where all you'd need to do is set the partitions just to get a basic gentoo installed and working and then do the customizing? What's the advantage of requiring you to make critical decisions during installation where a poor choice can result in a defective installation?And what is so good about getting on line during installation to get the latest version of something when it can be done after gentoo is installed? Someone is going to say you can do a basic installation from the instructions as they are now and it's just a matter of skipping certain steps.. No one is disputing that. So, how about a list of all the steps that can be skipped to install a basic gentoo or better yet, instructions that skip those steps and don't involve getting online to achieve the same result? Even better, an option for a default installation, minus customizing options except partitioning, for a plain vanilla gentoo. alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - espersunited.com saga; IMAP and POP3 access
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Michael Sullivan wrote: The problem is that I don't know what's providing IMAP/POP3 on the FC1 box. In redhat-config-services they're just listed as imap and ipop3. I did a full install of FC1 on that box, so all of the packages were already installed; I just had to edit a couple of files in /etc/sysconfig and start the daemons. All I know about the IMAP and POP3 services is that they depend on xinetd. Does that help? Each service under xinetd has a config file under /etc/xinetd.d so you can look there. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Have to re-emerge all packages after glibc re-compiled?
Hi,, On Tuesday 15 February 2005 07:00, Jans Han Xie wrote: hi, I've been told that *glibc* is a very basic package in Gentoo system thus you have to re-compile all packages after you have glibc re-compiled. I followed this guideline before and it's really time-consuming to emerge -e world again and again, what make it worse is that the glibc ebuild updates frequently recently ... So who can tell me is it TRUE? no, it is not. Usually you do not need to recompile anything. If you should recompile something, it will tell you about that. With a message in the ebuild, or by crashing ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Patches
Frank Schafer wrote:
Thanks a lot.
Could you tell me what the PORTDIR_OVERLAY is?
The PORTDIR_OVERLAY variable is set in /etc/make.conf. It references the
directory (usually /usr/local/portage, but you can set it to be wherever
you want via this variable), where you keep ebuilds that don't *belong*
to Portage (meaning, they did not come via an emerge sync, but were
downloaded from a site that has them, such as bugs.gentoo.org, or
breakmygentoo.net, some private sites run by gentoo users that carry
ebuilds for individual programs, or did come from Portage originally,
but were edited by you), but should be managed by Portage (meaning that
ebuilds installed from the PORTDIR_OVERLAY will be known to Portage, and
can 'override' Portage ebuilds (if you edit the development-sources
ebuild and put it in your overlay, it will be newer than the ebuild in
regular Portage, so it will be chosen first when you request to install
development-sources). The emerge output will note that the proposed
emerge will come from your overlay, and which one (you can have multiple
overlay sources, such as your privately downloaded ones in
/usr/local/portage, and the more automated sources from
breakmygentoo.net, which has its own emerge-style system-- gensync,
iirc-- to update their available ebuild tree).
I read the ebuild of the gemtoo-dev-sources just now.
Well, there are 2 tarballs with patches. Can someone tell me where
${DISTDIR} is? I'd like to have a look at the tarballs to at least know
what I'm patching. ... or where do I find the genpatches-*?
... and where is ${WORKDIR}? Maybe the _README will tell me what I
want to know.
These variables are all set in /etc/make.conf, except for ${WORKDIR},
which is set in the ebuild.
Part of my /etc/make.conf:
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
DISTDIR=${PORTDIR}/distfiles
PKGDIR=${PORTDIR}/packages
PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage /usr/local/bmg-main
So, as you see, ${DISTDIR} is in ${PORTDIR}/distfiles, which expands to
/usr/portage/distfiles, which is where all downloaded tarballs live.
${WORKDIR} is a temporary directory where the compiling actually takes
place; it has to be set by the ebuild because the path contains the name
and version number of the ebuild, which are a variable contained in the
ebuild. It's someplace in /var/tmp (sorry, can't check atm), and is
'cleaned out' when the compile completes successfully (and left there,
hogging up space, if the compile fails).
You might want to have a look at the Working With Portage docs at
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3 .
HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, A1ex wrote: What's the advantage of requiring you to make critical decisions during installation where a poor choice can result in a defective installation? You can't get away from making *some* decisions - you still need to pick a filesystem, pick a kernel. And what is so good about getting on line during installation to get the latest version of something when it can be done after gentoo is installed? Because bugs and security holes might have been fixed in some packages? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - espersunited.com saga; IMAP and POP3 access
Why is it stupid? What is xinetd anyway? What does it do? On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 09:59 -0600, Kashani wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: The problem is that I don't know what's providing IMAP/POP3 on the FC1 box. In redhat-config-services they're just listed as imap and ipop3. I did a full install of FC1 on that box, so all of the packages were already installed; I just had to edit a couple of files in /etc/sysconfig and start the daemons. All I know about the IMAP and POP3 services is that they depend on xinetd. Does that help? What's the output of: rpm -qa | grep -i imap You might also be able to tell what you're running by looking at the xinetd conf files. Though running IMAP out of xinetd has to be one of the stupidest default settings I've ever heard. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
Would Vanilla steps require Gentoo making some decisions for the user? Which kernel to use, how to build it, which boot loader and cron daemon, which logger, etc wouldn't that ruin the whole Gentoo is all about choices routine? A1ex wrote: A1ex wrote: I'm trying to install Gentoo from a UniversalCD using the instructions found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2004.3/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and I must say the instructions could use some editing. The instructions in section 5 for installing from the UniversalCD are so intertangled with those for downloading that it's very difficult to follow them. There are sections that are labelled for CD installation but they seem to bump into download instructions. I prefer to download and install packages after I have a basic Linux system installed.and working. I'm sure it would help others like me who aren't experts if the two methods were separated into two distinct sections that don't switch back and forth between the CD and download procedures. Are instructions available that describe how to do everything from CD without sliding into the download procedure?. alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list It's not just a matter of skipping section 5c if you don't need networking.. Other sections include diversions toward networking.and other options that aren't needed for a basic gentoo installation. The theme of the instructions is about allowing you to choose options during the installation. Well, what about an option where you can do a default installation from the start where all you'd need to do is set the partitions just to get a basic gentoo installed and working and then do the customizing? What's the advantage of requiring you to make critical decisions during installation where a poor choice can result in a defective installation?And what is so good about getting on line during installation to get the latest version of something when it can be done after gentoo is installed? Someone is going to say you can do a basic installation from the instructions as they are now and it's just a matter of skipping certain steps.. No one is disputing that. So, how about a list of all the steps that can be skipped to install a basic gentoo or better yet, instructions that skip those steps and don't involve getting online to achieve the same result? Even better, an option for a default installation, minus customizing options except partitioning, for a plain vanilla gentoo. alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This site uses frames And yet your browser does not. One of these will change. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Patches
Thanks,
I think this will help me a to make the work done.
If I'll have a lot of time (counting February 22. ;o( ) I'll have a
look at this all.
Frank
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 17:03 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
Frank Schafer wrote:
Thanks a lot.
Could you tell me what the PORTDIR_OVERLAY is?
The PORTDIR_OVERLAY variable is set in /etc/make.conf. It references the
directory (usually /usr/local/portage, but you can set it to be wherever
you want via this variable), where you keep ebuilds that don't *belong*
to Portage (meaning, they did not come via an emerge sync, but were
downloaded from a site that has them, such as bugs.gentoo.org, or
breakmygentoo.net, some private sites run by gentoo users that carry
ebuilds for individual programs, or did come from Portage originally,
but were edited by you), but should be managed by Portage (meaning that
ebuilds installed from the PORTDIR_OVERLAY will be known to Portage, and
can 'override' Portage ebuilds (if you edit the development-sources
ebuild and put it in your overlay, it will be newer than the ebuild in
regular Portage, so it will be chosen first when you request to install
development-sources). The emerge output will note that the proposed
emerge will come from your overlay, and which one (you can have multiple
overlay sources, such as your privately downloaded ones in
/usr/local/portage, and the more automated sources from
breakmygentoo.net, which has its own emerge-style system-- gensync,
iirc-- to update their available ebuild tree).
I read the ebuild of the gemtoo-dev-sources just now.
Well, there are 2 tarballs with patches. Can someone tell me where
${DISTDIR} is? I'd like to have a look at the tarballs to at least know
what I'm patching. ... or where do I find the genpatches-*?
... and where is ${WORKDIR}? Maybe the _README will tell me what I
want to know.
These variables are all set in /etc/make.conf, except for ${WORKDIR},
which is set in the ebuild.
Part of my /etc/make.conf:
PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
PORTDIR=/usr/portage
DISTDIR=${PORTDIR}/distfiles
PKGDIR=${PORTDIR}/packages
PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/portage
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage /usr/local/bmg-main
So, as you see, ${DISTDIR} is in ${PORTDIR}/distfiles, which expands to
/usr/portage/distfiles, which is where all downloaded tarballs live.
${WORKDIR} is a temporary directory where the compiling actually takes
place; it has to be set by the ebuild because the path contains the name
and version number of the ebuild, which are a variable contained in the
ebuild. It's someplace in /var/tmp (sorry, can't check atm), and is
'cleaned out' when the compile completes successfully (and left there,
hogging up space, if the compile fails).
You might want to have a look at the Working With Portage docs at
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3 .
HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling and Monitoring
On 21:53 Mon 14 Feb , Jean-Francois Gagnon Laporte wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:40:16 +0100, marcin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm wondering if there is a tool under Linux which I can used to control other programs. For instance I want to control network connections making by some program (by control I mean logging or blocking). I know that I can use (for example) #strace program and then I can watch when the program using sockets or whatever but it would be nice to have such a program which is blocking connections to the Internet by running #block-inet program and the program wouldn't have access outside the box. (I know that something similar is under GNU Hurd http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484) Is it possible under Linux? Hum yeah TCPd can do that for inetd programs. Also, netfilter/iptables can do that on a port basis. All you have to do is to know which program use which port and you're ready to go. You could use fwbuilder (available in portage) to help you out. Just deny everything and then enable what you need. Hopes this helps Jean-Francois I know that I can deny everything but the whole point is that I want to deny access only some programs. I want to build some kind of sandboxes where I can test some suspicious programs (and I don't want to use emulators like qemu, vmware or even usermode-kernel). I thought that maybe there is a patch against kernel 2.4 or 2.6 but I haven't been able to find it yet. Thanks Marcin -- Samcze pasorzyty s± od usugiwania kobiecie i wykonywania nie skomplikowanych prac domowych... http://link.interia.pl/f1856 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Creating a movie using Linux
Yuval Scharf y_scharf at netvision.net.il writes: Hello, Sometime Google just return to many results I've written a graphical demonstration software and I was asked to create a short movie describing it. The movie should be about 5 minutes long and can be in any popular format. How should I do? I'm not interested in the GUI just in the main window. Hello Yuval, The last 4 or 5 issues of Linux Journal have had excellent articles on video production for various needs. The December 2004 issue has an article about using Kino: http://www.linuxjournal.com/issue/128 The end of the article listed this url: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7816 (which loads very slowly) Hope this helps... James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Runing user-mode-linux
Hi all I want to run user-mode-linux on my Gentoo box. I tried to use this doc http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/uml.xml First I tried to use gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.10-r6 but it gives this error: In file included from include/asm/thread_info.h:17, from include/linux/thread_info.h:21, from include/linux/spinlock.h:12, from include/linux/seqlock.h:30, from include/linux/time.h:7, from arch/um/util/mk_constants_kern.c:3: include/asm/processor.h:68: error: `CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT' undeclared here (not in a function) include/asm/processor.h:68: error: requested alignment is not a constant make[1]: *** [arch/um/util/mk_constants_kern.o] Error 1 make: *** [arch/um/util] Error 2 The same with -r5. I tried development-sources-2.6.11_rc4, at least it compiles, but when I try to run linux I immediately get a Segmentation fault. I tried to enable the 2G/2G option, but it doesn't help (and I don't think I have a 2G/2G system). usermode-sources gives me this compile-error: /usr/src/uml/linux-2.4.26-uml1-r12/lib/vsprintf.c:730: multiple definition of `sscanf' arch/um/kernel/tt/unmap_fin.o(.text+0x324b0): first defined here /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bi= n/ld: Warning: size of symbol `sscanf' changed from 33 in arch/um/kernel/tt/unmap_fin.o to 35 in vmlinux.o vmlinux.o(.text+0x13dba0): In function `strpbrk': /usr/src/uml/linux-2.4.26-uml1-r12/lib/string.c:280: multiple definition of `strpbrk' arch/um/kernel/tt/unmap_fin.o(.text+0x349d0): first defined here /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bi= n/ld: Warning: size of symbol `strpbrk' changed from 179 in arch/um/kernel/tt/unmap_fin.o to 82 in vmlinux.o /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bi= n/ld: BFD 2.15.92.0.2 20040927 assertion fail elf.c:3637 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [linux] Error 1 I can send configs if you want. Please help me! Thanks Gbor -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
A1ex wrote: It's not just a matter of skipping section 5c if you don't need networking.. Other sections include diversions toward networking.and other options that aren't needed for a basic gentoo installation. The theme of the instructions is about allowing you to choose options during the installation. Well, what about an option where you can do a default installation from the start where all you'd need to do is set the partitions just to get a basic gentoo installed and working and then do the customizing? Because there really is no such thing as a basic Gentoo, except for a Stage 3, and if you are doing a Stage 3, it should be fairly obvious what instructions you can't follow. Maybe the problem is that I don't get what you mean by customizing. A basic workstation is not the same as a basic home user desktop, neither of which is the same as a basic web or mail server. And none of these is the same as a home user desktop which runs a web server and requires the owner to be able to ssh into it so it can be administered remotely. How the system will be used is a decision that is best made before the install process begins; Gentoo is one of the few that allows you to target the install process to this decision, rather than forcing you to re-target the machine after the install is completed based on decisions that the installer has made on your behalf (such as what packages you need and what capabilities those packages support). Even if this is not what you are talking about, this complaint doesn't seem to have much to do with your difficulty in extracting which specific instructions you need to perform to do a Stage 3 installation, which is basically exactly what you have asked for (a basic Gentoo installation that can be performed without a network connection). What's the advantage of requiring you to make critical decisions during installation where a poor choice can result in a defective installation? Ummm... to have a defective installation, you would have to know what you were using the installation for, which would not be basic, but custom. After all, all the install variants are intended to *work* (i.e., produce a viable installed system that boots the kernel and runs), so that can't be what you mean. The only 'critical' decisions you have to make during install are a kernel, and a syslogger, neither of which is 'critical' unless you have specific-- custom-- needs that require a specific configuration to fulfill. And what is so good about getting on line during installation to get the latest version of something when it can be done after gentoo is installed? Then get it after Gentoo is installed. A Stage 3 installation does not require a network connection. Even better, an option for a default installation, minus customizing options except partitioning, for a plain vanilla gentoo. This exists. It's called a Stage 3. I'm clearly missing something about this rant. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Creating a movie using Linux
Hello, Thank you for all the answers. Once again this mailing list is very useful. Yuval Scharf -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Boot problem - empty /dev - depend !
Hi list, Something happened after an emerge. Now I was hoping somebody could help me to find the way back. When booting I get the following : /proc [OK] awk: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory this line repeats for almost 3 screens then follows by : /sbin/rc: line 276: [: : integer expression expected swap [OK] remounting root [OK] checking root filesystem ... fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hdd1 Then the usual thing if something goes wrong at boot time, namely that the superblock is bad. With the question to login as root or reboot with control-D When logging in I see that the /dev directory is empty Also the libexpat.so.0 does not exist. Also when booting and logging in with a CD, like the install, I get the following after using emerge : Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... Cache service dependencies... Cannot add provide 'authdaemond', as a service with the same name exists! Where did what go wrong and how can we fix it ? Thanks in advance. William. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GMail / Forums
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Cox wrote: | I use GMail as well but I use sendmail and my local email client to read and | send to the list. Checking your post I can see the header: | Reply-To: Mike Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the list. Can this | not be changed when sending from the gmail site ? | Yes it can, there is a place where you can actually set the Reply-To address to a specific address. The problem is that if you use gmail for anything other than the lists mail, you will have all replys going to the list and this is not a good thing. Mike - -- Mike Noble Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 0xFFDFC13B Key fingerprint: 8204 1297 B9AD 0CED 2FCE 1FB0 9491 5824 FFDF C13B Keyserver: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCEkJClJFYJP/fwTsRAuAzAKCPkHW/UmyU5AgB5CPBdyx0C+aumQCeOPFj p118OVXHcZXzXERYrI/m2mk= =sKSe -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot problem - empty /dev - depend !
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:23:02 +0100, William Meertens wrote: Something happened after an emerge. Now I was hoping somebody could help me to find the way back. When booting I get the following : /proc [OK] awk: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Boot the live CD, chroot into your Gentoo environment and re-emerge gawk with USE=-xml. See the other posts to this list on the same topic over the last couple of days for more info. -- Neil Bothwick The trouble with life is that you are halfway through it before you realize it's a do it yourself thing. pgpsfjoSrieX2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] big problems on boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luke Albers wrote: | Im not sure if this happened after doing an emerge -uD world, or emerge | openoffice, but things arent working right anymore. On boot I get all | kinds of messages, shortly after udevd starts. Some of them say | something about awk and libexpat.so.0: no such file or directory. | libexpat.so.0 is present, in /usr/lib. / is mounted readonly (although | mount says it is rw). I alwaks have to remount it rw. Also, it says | something about /etc/init.d/net.eth0 having a syntax error, and doent | start it. After logging in, I can run it just fine. Xterm wont start. | Trying open gnome-terminal brings up a window saying there was an error | creating the child process for this terminal. Does anyone know what | might be wrong? I know I havent explained this well, but I cant find a | log of all those messages I was seeing, and they go by too fast to catch | them all. It's related to /usr being on a seperate partition to /, to fix this I moved /usr/lib/libexpat.* to /lib/ and then sym-linked back. All works now. - -- http://www.mattsscripts.co.uk/ ~ - A great source for free CGI and stuff ~ Worm Mayor: One day you'll be eating a fast-food burger and BOOM, ~ you'll be crawling with us again. Ever wonder what makes special sauce ~ so special? Yo. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCEkZSms1059AAPcwRAr20AKDb7gE6TAAeoxw5NgJv8IvInBRWvQCgnXpH Q4n/QdF76VOZAFAtifIGzt8= =cUx7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot problem - empty /dev - depend ! [SOLVED]
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 18:51:45 + Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See the other posts to this list on the same topic over the last couple of days for more info. I'm going to do that. But it worked, thanks. All my best, William. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] symlinks missing when distcc installed
I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this problem. I recently build 2 machines, and installed distcc on both of them. I followed the Gentoo Distcc guide to get everything set up. Then, it didn't work. Distcc did not distribute any compile tasks to the other computers. I tracked it down as far as I can. It looks like there are not any links from the /usr/lib/distcc/bin directory to the distcc binary. On a working machine, the contents of /usr/lib/distcc/bin are: lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15 Dec 2 2003 c++ - /usr/bin/distcc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15 Dec 2 2003 cc - /usr/bin/distcc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15 Dec 2 2003 g++ - /usr/bin/distcc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15 Dec 2 2003 gcc - /usr/bin/distcc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15 Dec 2 2003 i686-pc-linux-gnu-c++ - /usr/bin/distcc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15 Dec 2 2003 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ - /usr/bin/distcc lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15 Dec 2 2003 i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc - /usr/bin/distcc On the two new machines, the directory was completely empty. For a short term solution, I created the links on the PCs that did not have them. I checked bugs.gentoo.org and could not find anything that seemed related. Has anyone else seen this? Is it a bug? Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] symlinks missing when distcc installed
Then, it didn't work. Distcc did not distribute any compile tasks to the other computers. I tracked it down as far as I can. It looks like there are not any links from the /usr/lib/distcc/bin directory to the distcc binary. For a short term solution, I created the links on the PCs that did not have them. Great Abap! But did distcc work after these links were created? This came up as an issue before on the list but I don't believe anyone tracked down the source of the problem... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GMail / Forums
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:40:44 -0500 Trey Gruel wrote: Guessing this happens on other forums as well but from everyone that who posts to this forum using GMail the reply-to is there own email address where everybody elses is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address. I've noticed that on most, it's both the gentoo-user list *and* the gmail sender in the Reply-To header. I submitted a bug report to them months ago about the fact that the always add the Reply-To, but never got any response to it. I'm willing to bet that they said 'Feature!' and WONTFIXed it. :( too right, they a megalomaniacally harvesting the world's email, of course they want replies to go back to gmail! -- trey -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Software Raid and Grub problem?
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 05:30 am, Rick Lapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am at Linuxworld in Boston. At the Linux System Administration Tutorial, the speaker, Josh Jensen (Cisco, RH, IBM), declared that Grub doesn't support software raid on /boot. Because of this we should NOT use grub with Raid, rather we should use lilo. Lilo does understand /boot is mirrored. Grub does not understand raid boot. However, if you are just using raid 0, you can setup grub on both (all) disks. Also, I've heard that you can tweak grub so that if the primary MBR isn't working it will use the secondary one and similarly for primary/secondary grub.conf/menu.lst Now if for some far and away reasom you are using other raids (for boot), you can't use grub. It's early stages simply don't understand the raid, so it won't be able to find grub.conf on the /boot filesystem. I am planning to raid1 my server and was going to follow the gentoo howto for raid which suggests grub and doesn't mention lilo. Since raid1 is performance-enhancing, I would simply not raid1 boot (I don't even mount boot most of the time). Instead you can raid0 boot, or simply use the space that would be boot on the second drive as supplemental swap. (It won't be as fast as raid1 swap, though.) If you are comfortable with lilo, you could just go that way, but I'm not very experience with lilo. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Still can't update xfce
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 04:46 am, Jim Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also seem to have a problem if I manually update gtk+. The build starts OK: but ends like this: /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la: No such file or directory libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.4/libstdc++.la' is not a valid libtool archive make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1 While I can't speak for the other problem, this can be solved by either a) fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.4 or b) emerge libtool. [One will work, the other one won't.] -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Postfix excessive logging
[retrying send since it never made it to the list it seems] Hi List, Today I (more or less) followed some howto's I found in the forum to yield all of postfix (+TLS), amavisd-new, clamav, spamd, courier-imapd-ssl, squirrelmail and apache (+SSL) (but without virtual mail setup). The good news is, all that seems to work fine now. So everything works fine upon first (and second) glance except for the real abundant logging that either postfix or amavis does. I edited all the logging-related options I could find but to no avail. For every single mail I get I see a few hundred(!) lines of logs... :-( I reckon something is running in debug mode, but try as I might I cannot find what is (and where it is configured). A log excerpt is to be found below. There is no postfix config in /etc/conf.d/ and the initscript doesn't set debug mode as far as I could determine. It also seems to me that when I change a loglevel in main.cf that that doesn't change a thing, which leads me to believe that it somehow runs in full debug mode no matter what I do. Apart from what I did today it is a freshly installed gentoo, emerged this weekend. Can anyone help ? Where should I start looking ? Maarten Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] name_mask: host Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] inet_addr_local: configured 2 IPv4 addresses Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] warning: inet_addr_local[procnet_ifinet6]: Couldn't open /proc/net/if_inet6 for reading: No such file or directory Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] inet_addr_local: configured 0 IPv6 addresses Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] mynetworks: 10.4.4.11/32 127.0.0.1/32 Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: mynetworks ~? debug_peer_list Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: mynetworks ~? fast_flush_domains Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: mynetworks ~? mynetworks Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: relay_domains ~? debug_peer_list Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: relay_domains ~? fast_flush_domains Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: relay_domains ~? mynetworks Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: relay_domains ~? permit_mx_backup_networks Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: relay_domains ~? qmqpd_authorized_clients Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: relay_domains ~? relay_domains Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: permit_mx_backup_networks ~? debug_peer_list Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: permit_mx_backup_networks ~? fast_flush_domains Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: permit_mx_backup_networks ~? mynetworks Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: permit_mx_backup_networks ~? permit_mx_backup_networks Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] dict_open: unix:passwd.byname Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] dict_open: hash:/etc/mail/aliases Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: smtpd_access_maps ~? debug_peer_list Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: smtpd_access_maps ~? fast_flush_domains Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: smtpd_access_maps ~? mynetworks Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: smtpd_access_maps ~? permit_mx_backup_networks Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: smtpd_access_maps ~? qmqpd_authorized_clients Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: smtpd_access_maps ~? relay_domains Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: smtpd_access_maps ~? smtpd_access_maps Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] smtpd_sasl_initialize: SASL config file is smtpd.conf Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] sql_select option missing Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] auxpropfunc error no mechanism available_ Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: fast_flush_domains ~? debug_peer_list Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_string: fast_flush_domains ~? fast_flush_domains Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] watchdog_create: 0x80aa2d8 18000 Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] watchdog_stop: 0x80aa2d8 Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] watchdog_start: 0x80aa2d8 Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] connection established Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] master_notify: status 0 Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] name_mask: resource Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] name_mask: software Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] name_mask: noanonymous Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] connect from morpheus.foobar[10.4.4.4] Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_list_match: morpheus.foobar: no match Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_list_match: 10.4.4.4: no match Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_list_match: morpheus.foobar: no match Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] match_list_match: 10.4.4.4: no match Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] morpheus.foobar[10.4.4.4]: 220 mail.mydomain.nl ESMTP Postfix Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] watchdog_pat: 0x80aa2d8 Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] morpheus.foobar[10.4.4.4]: EHLO morpheus.foobar Feb 15 17:07:42 [postfix/smtpd] morpheus.foobar[10.4.4.4]: 250-mail.mydomain.nl snip much more SMTP
Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix excessive logging
Maarten wrote: [retrying send since it never made it to the list it seems] Hi List, Today I (more or less) followed some howto's I found in the forum to yield all of postfix (+TLS), amavisd-new, clamav, spamd, courier-imapd-ssl, squirrelmail and apache (+SSL) (but without virtual mail setup). The good news is, all that seems to work fine now. So everything works fine upon first (and second) glance except for the real abundant logging that either postfix or amavis does. I edited all the logging-related options I could find but to no avail. For every single mail I get I see a few hundred(!) lines of logs... :-( I reckon something is running in debug mode, but try as I might I cannot find what is (and where it is configured). A log excerpt is to be found below. There is no postfix config in /etc/conf.d/ and the initscript doesn't set debug mode as far as I could determine. It also seems to me that when I change a loglevel in main.cf that that doesn't change a thing, which leads me to believe that it somehow runs in full debug mode no matter what I do. Look in your /etc/postfix/master.cf for a -v flag in the args field. Remove it and restart. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Postfix excessive logging
For every single mail I get I see a few hundred(!) lines of logs... :-( I reckon something is running in debug mode, but try as I might I cannot find what is (and where it is configured). A log excerpt is to be found below. It's mostly the smtpd guy (it looks like) that is generating the logs. Look in /etc/postfix/master.cf at your entries that have smtpd under the command + args column. You probably have the -v flag set. It should be cleared and postfix reloaded. Also look at the debug_peer_list and debug_peer_level values in /etc/postfix/main.cf. The debug_peer_list indicates which peers to do excessive logging on and level indicates how verbose it should be. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix excessive logging
Kashani wrote: Look in your /etc/postfix/master.cf for a -v flag in the args field. Remove it and restart. another option to look for is: /etc/postfix/main.cf:debug_peer_level = 2 /etc/postfix/main.cf:#debug_peer_list = 127.0.0.1 /etc/postfix/main.cf:#debug_peer_list = some.domain Like the above example, if you adjust, you'll need to restart. ---eric -- http://www.salon.com/books/review/2004/12/18/heloise/index.html The basis of Abelard's philosophy, which he taught to Heloise, was that logic had to be applied to religion in order to arrive at the truth. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Change Control - Alt Function keys
I have gentoo with kde running on my home file server. I just bought a new kvm switch and the company decided to use Cntrl-Alt F1-F4 as hotkeys. Since I cannot change the hotkeys in the kvm, i wanted to know where I could change the hotkeys in gentoo. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Thrashed /etc
OK I successfully thrashed /etc on my laptop. O can boot up on livecd and most everything else seems to be there, except the /etc/stuff. I did get it to emerge sync, but now complains about /usr/portage/profiles having bad lines, they are there but I assume the problem is that I placed some files in my /usr, and /etc from teh forums that were binaries to get portage going. I can't seem to solve this. I am thinking about doing a re-install, though I hate to do that. If I do a reinstall how far do I have to go? I have backed up /home, and all my data so that is not an issue, but I would like to try and rebuild just / and save teh problem of restoring /home if possible. Actually kde and really everything is there, just /etc and apparently a few /usr are trashed... Any suggestions appreciated before I start a mad all nighter trying to get teh ~x86 back running w/kde etc... Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Qmail-Scanner
Hello, I am a little bit confused about the usage (or better setup) of qmail-scanner. How do I set up the SpamAssassin rules ? I emerged qmail-scanner with the spamassassin flag, but as far as I can see I have to change now the spamassassin settings within the qmail-scanner.pl file. Is this correct ? cu stonki -- www.stonki.de:the more I see, the more I know... www.proftpd.de: Deutsche ProFTPD Dokumentation www.krename.net: Der Batch Renamer für KDE www.kbarcode.net: Die Barcode Solution für KDE -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Editing perl modules
Will changes I make to installed perl modules be reflected right away? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Weird apache2 stuff
When I try to restart apache2 I get: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Starting apache2... [ !! ] and there is nothing in the error_log. Trying to stop apache2 give me this: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop * ERROR: apache2 has not yet been started. but my pages are being served just fine. Does anyone know what's going on here? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird apache2 stuff
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 13:38, Grant wrote: When I try to restart apache2 I get: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Starting apache2... [ !! ] and there is nothing in the error_log. Trying to stop apache2 give me this: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop * ERROR: apache2 has not yet been started. but my pages are being served just fine. Does anyone know what's going on here? You must have somehow started apache2 manually. try # killall apache sleep 5 /etc/init.d/apache2 start That should restart it for you, and bring it under control of the Gentoo initscripts again. The sleep 5 is to give apache time to finish exiting -- t3h 3l3ctr0n3rd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Supermarket Deli Clerk and Student Programmer OpenPGP Key Fingerprint: 0A65 EEFA B23A F0AC E6C2 C71C BEA0 E055 BE0E EC25 pgpSNIQUFbGe0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix excessive logging
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 21:49, Kashani wrote: Maarten wrote: [retrying send since it never made it to the list it seems] Hi List, Today I (more or less) followed some howto's I found in the forum to yield all of postfix (+TLS), amavisd-new, clamav, spamd, courier-imapd-ssl, squirrelmail and apache (+SSL) (but without virtual mail setup). The good news is, all that seems to work fine now. So everything works fine upon first (and second) glance except for the real abundant logging that either postfix or amavis does. I edited all the logging-related options I could find but to no avail. For every single mail I get I see a few hundred(!) lines of logs... :-( I reckon something is running in debug mode, but try as I might I cannot find what is (and where it is configured). A log excerpt is to be found below. There is no postfix config in /etc/conf.d/ and the initscript doesn't set debug mode as far as I could determine. It also seems to me that when I change a loglevel in main.cf that that doesn't change a thing, which leads me to believe that it somehow runs in full debug mode no matter what I do. Look in your /etc/postfix/master.cf for a -v flag in the args field. Remove it and restart. Thanks !!! That was it. Funny how one can overlook things like that... Maarten kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- bash-2.05b$ emerge ncy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10 and automounting ?
What exactly is supermount, why is it considered 'evil', and was it disabled for its supposed 'evilness'? By automounter do you mean that it automatically mounts a file system for hot-plug devices (USB... ) or that it mounts filesystems at boot. I expect that it isn't the latter because that is wat fstab is for, correct? Thanks in advance. - -Matthew- On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:49:43 +, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:22:04 -0700, Jason Smith wrote: Can anyone explain to me how they got USB to automount with supermount? Put this in /etc/fstab, changing device and mount point paths as appropriate. If you have more than one USB device, you will need to create suitable udev rules to ensure each device always gets the same name. none /mnt/cf supermount fs=auto,dev=/dev/usb/cf,--,users,sync,noatime 0 0 You must use sync or you risk losing data when disconnecting the device. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as the small child choked on his eyes -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - espersunited.com saga; IMAP and POP3 access
Michael Sullivan wrote: Why is it stupid? What is xinetd anyway? What does it do? xinetd is what's often called a super-daemon. It sits there listening for connections on ports you've configured. When connections come in xinetd answers and then calls the correct server to handle it. Once the connection is done, the client exits, xinetd drops the connection, and the server daemon shuts down... not exactly sure on the order for all that, but it doesn't matter much for our purposes. The nice thing about this is that you don't need ten ftp daemons sitting around using RAM while waiting for incoming connections. This helps keep resourvces free on a small system with little RAM that runs many services, but doesn't need to do them all the time. The bad thing is that you have to reread all data and may have some significant start time associated with the daemons. Also you lose any caching of data when the daemon exits. In the case of a busy server that has a dedicated function, xinetd is going to slow things down. Or for real fun try running a database out of xinetd. Back to imap, unless you like the idea of rescanning your entire dir every time you make an imap connection, standalone is better most of the time... for imap/http/mysql. However other daemons with low overhead like pop3/telnet/ftp/tftp would be fine. Here's a bit of link on it, about a third down the page. http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/en_US/SquirrelMailPerformance And finally to end with funny inetd story. I once ran ssh 1.2-ish on my Sparc2 out of inetd. It took 30+ seconds to connect each time since ssh had to generate the session keys from scratch, which was no mean feat on a 20mhz chip. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
Steven Susbauer wrote: Would Vanilla steps require Gentoo making some decisions for the user? Which kernel to use, how to build it, which boot loader and cron daemon, which logger, etc wouldn't that ruin the whole Gentoo is all about choices routine? I was comparing the installation instructions for Gentoo with that of other Linuxes. I currently have Libranet, SuSE, two KNOPPIXes, UBUNTU, installed and of course some decisions, such as you mention, were needed but not to the extent that Gentoo requires. They didn't have a 100 page set of microinstructions and rhetoric All I had was two sheets of paper for each of these distros.. I'm not claiming that Gentoo can be installed without requiring ANY decisions but surely, the installation of a basic workable Gentoo that then could tailored to whatever you want, could be made as simple as other Linux distros, couldn't it? A1ex wrote: A1ex wrote: I'm trying to install Gentoo from a UniversalCD using the instructions found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2004.3/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and I must say the instructions could use some editing. The instructions in section 5 for installing from the UniversalCD are so intertangled with those for downloading that it's very difficult to follow them. There are sections that are labelled for CD installation but they seem to bump into download instructions. I prefer to download and install packages after I have a basic Linux system installed.and working. I'm sure it would help others like me who aren't experts if the two methods were separated into two distinct sections that don't switch back and forth between the CD and download procedures. Are instructions available that describe how to do everything from CD without sliding into the download procedure?. alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list It's not just a matter of skipping section 5c if you don't need networking.. Other sections include diversions toward networking.and other options that aren't needed for a basic gentoo installation. The theme of the instructions is about allowing you to choose options during the installation. Well, what about an option where you can do a default installation from the start where all you'd need to do is set the partitions just to get a basic gentoo installed and working and then do the customizing? What's the advantage of requiring you to make critical decisions during installation where a poor choice can result in a defective installation?And what is so good about getting on line during installation to get the latest version of something when it can be done after gentoo is installed? Someone is going to say you can do a basic installation from the instructions as they are now and it's just a matter of skipping certain steps.. No one is disputing that. So, how about a list of all the steps that can be skipped to install a basic gentoo or better yet, instructions that skip those steps and don't involve getting online to achieve the same result? Even better, an option for a default installation, minus customizing options except partitioning, for a plain vanilla gentoo. alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I guess I must be spoiled by the ease with which I've installed other Linuxes and I was annoyed by the need to make so many decisions for the installation of Gentoo.. I'm not an expert by any means but I've had very little difficulty making decisions and loading up my hard drives with multiple distros like Libranet, SuSE, KNOPPIX (2), and UBUNTU in addition to two MS Windows so when I tried to add Gentoo and discovered that it requires knowledge or experience that I don't have, I blamed my problems on the way the instructions are written . So, I guess the thing to do is use the instructions as a model and filter out the sections that I don't or can't use to create a set of instructions that better suits my needs . . -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird apache2 stuff
When I try to restart apache2 I get: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Starting apache2... [ !! ] and there is nothing in the error_log. Trying to stop apache2 give me this: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop * ERROR: apache2 has not yet been started. but my pages are being served just fine. Does anyone know what's going on here? You must have somehow started apache2 manually. try # killall apache sleep 5 /etc/init.d/apache2 start That should restart it for you, and bring it under control of the Gentoo initscripts again. The sleep 5 is to give apache time to finish exiting Thanks, worked like a charm! I wonder how apache2 could have been restarted manually though. Should I be worried? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT:Recommended Frame Grabber boards?
Hello, Anybody have a pci_bus frame grabber board, with 2-4 channels of ntsc input, that you are happy with under a 2.6 kernel? Low cost is a concern as well as a 2.6 driver that allows all channels to work simultaneously James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Remote Desktop
I have my Gentoo machine which I leave at home. But there are times that I want to access it remotely. I have been using a lot of Ncurses programs to get the job done. But I still have some programs that I need a GUI for. What type of server can I set up so I can access my GUI. I have though about VNC, but I am wondering if there is something better. I was wondering if anyone here used NX. Or is there an easy way to get X to run on windows. Something that I can stick on a USB stick and dont have to install. I am thinking that VNC is going to be the way. But I am wondering. What do we have out there? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gdm gnome-session logout
hi, i was finding out why when i choose reboot/shutdown from the panel inside a gnome session, it always takes me to gdm... in some forums they tell that it was a decision of gentoo-devs in order to reduce the number of SUID files (mainly shutdown). is that true? why they didn't that with kdm? why in debian-likes with no suid-shutdown it works? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Qmail-Scanner
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 23:11, Stefan Onken wrote: Hello, I am a little bit confused about the usage (or better setup) of qmail-scanner. How do I set up the SpamAssassin rules ? I emerged qmail-scanner with the spamassassin flag, but as far as I can see I have to change now the spamassassin settings within the qmail-scanner.pl file. Is this correct ? what changes do you want to make? . if the settings you want to change are the spamassassin configuration directives (like whitelist_from), do it in 'etc/spamassassin/local.cf'. the only reason to change qmail-scanner-queue.pl is to change it's behavior (e.g. admin's email, from what score the email should be deleted/rejected, etc...). cu stonki Bye -- Haim pgpO1DPnl4ujD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
I was comparing the installation instructions for Gentoo with that of other Linuxes. I currently have Libranet, SuSE, two KNOPPIXes, UBUNTU, installed and of course some decisions, such as you mention, were needed but not to the extent that Gentoo requires. So you compared Gentoo, a source based distribution to a slew of binary based distributions? But you didn't compare Gentoo to Rock (source based), or Linux From Scratch (source based)? They didn't have a 100 page set of microinstructions and rhetoric All I had was two sheets of paper for each of these distros.. I'm not claiming that Gentoo can be installed without requiring ANY decisions but surely, the installation of a basic workable Gentoo that then could tailored to whatever you want, could be made as simple as other Linux distros, couldn't it? Perhaps you should be comparing VidiaLinux to the binary based dists? If you know how you want a system set up, then the 100 pages goes pretty quick - you know what to skip. But, personally, I prefer setting things up with some of the non-mainstream variants of packages. And it still takes just an hour to get the system up and running. Gentoo is not hard to install. But, my install is not your install. I run 7 different Gentoo based systems and each one has a different install. But they are all easy to maintain. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: easy way to package and transfer binary kernels?
Jesse Guardiani wrote: Ow Mun Heng wrote: On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 02:28, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: Jesse Guardiani ha scritto: Hello, Is there a script that makes it easy to package and transfer a binary kernel? Currently, I'm having to separately tar, gzip, and sftp the following dirs/files: /lib/modules/2.6.10-gentoo-r6 /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 /boot/System.map-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 /boot/initrd-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 /boot/kernel-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 Is there an easier way to do this? Transfer only /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 and redo a make install make modules_install, it should work if not modified after the last install. Alternatvely you can leave /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 out, if you don't compile it you don't need to copy it. I tried this today with unsynced clocks on two different machines and it ended up trying to rebuild the kernel. This doesn't appear to be a good solution after all. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: /etc/init.d/alsasound fails to load soundcard module
Holly Bostick wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: Holly Bostick wrote: Jesse Guardiani wrote: Jans Han Xie wrote: snip No, no package installed. I use the in-kernel version. And pasting the error message when /etc/init.d/alsasound restart will be more help :) There isn't one. It starts all of the modules except my snd-intel8x0 module. No error, other than the fact that it isn't doing it's job. 1) Try alsaconf. Maybe your card isn't being properly configured (so alsasound doesn't know to load the module). Been there, done that. No change. Still doesn't load my module. However, afaik, there is no better workaround than putting the module in /etc/modules.d.autoload/kernel-2.6. After all, that is what that file is for-- it *is* the better workaround. My onboard sound chip (a VIA 8233) also requires semi-automatic loading in order to work properly; it may have something to do with the fact that it *is* onboard sound, and thus is related to the loading of other motherboard resources before it can be detected. Is your intel8x0 also onboard, or is it a separate card? onboard. It's just annoying because if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound stop` then it unloads my soundcard module, but if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound start` then it doesn't load it back in. Placing the module in the kernel-2.6 file helps at boot, but it does nothing to help this init.d case. OK, if the module is not loaded in the first place, then how does stopping alsasound unload it? It's currently being loaded at boot time by /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 I have this sense that somewhere you said something about device busy being displayed (but now I can't find it); Doesn't ring a bell. Different post maybe? that message (if it exists) suggests that the device is being loaded by the kernel before alsasound tries to load it. That would suggest that the module is compiled as a module [M] and not directly into the kernel [*], which, although it seems like it should be correct, never worked properly for me. Secondly, why are you stopping alsasound at all? Various reasons. Unstick a sound card while playing with bluetooth, test settings, etc... Does sound work if you just let things remain as set up after boot? Yes, but only if I place snd-intel8x0 in the kernel-2.6 file. What I would suggest is that you either: 1) Get a real sound card (I just replaced my onboard sound with a nice CMI 8738 card, and Soundblaster Live!s of various stripes are available for about the same price or less; I paid about Euro 30, but I could have gotten something adequate for half that). It really helps to have a distinct card available for detection by normal means, rather than a motherboard resource which involves BIOS configuration as well as kernel and OS configuration; Sorry, but that is a bit asinine. 2) Confirm the sound chip's configuration in the kernel, and also confirm the ALSA settings. Been there, done that. 2b) Confirm your modules.autoload.d settings. Here was the modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 settings that worked to load my VIA 8233 onboard sound without errors: # For example: # 3c59x #fw-loader snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-seq #snd-seq-oss (loaded by snd-seq, so commented out) snd-via82xx supermount (unrelated) #via82-cxxx_audio (I tried using OSS for a while) #ac97_codec (ditto) gameport (onboard game port) ns558 (analog settings for onboard game port) sidewinder (game pad connected to onboard game port) fglrx (unrelated) That's just it. I shouldn't have to put my sound card module in kernel-2.6 if it has already been detected by alsaconf. 2c) Confirm your /etc/modules.d/alsa settings (maybe it's looking for the wrong module or something; again, this is for my VIA 8233, but you should see the point): No, it's correct. 2d) Oh, and if your /etc/modules.d/alsa is correct, maybe you should run 'update-modules' manually; alsaconf seems a bit dodgy to me when running the setup scripts and unmuting the volumes. Been there, done that. 3) And I can't help but ask-- are you *absolutely sure* that intel-8x0 is the correct module for your onboard sound chip? What is the make and model of the board? Uh, yes. Sound works fine. The only problem is that `/etc/init.d/alsasound start` doesn't auto load my sound card module. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird apache2 stuff
When I try to restart apache2 I get: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Starting apache2... [ !! ] and there is nothing in the error_log. Trying to stop apache2 give me this: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop * ERROR: apache2 has not yet been started. but my pages are being served just fine. Does anyone know what's going on here? You must have somehow started apache2 manually. try # killall apache sleep 5 /etc/init.d/apache2 start That should restart it for you, and bring it under control of the Gentoo initscripts again. The sleep 5 is to give apache time to finish exiting Thanks, worked like a charm! I wonder how apache2 could have been restarted manually though. Should I be worried? - Grant I bet you are using the thread use flag, it change the MPM of apache ... and make it very slow at shutdown time. Sometimes 5 seconds are no enough too. btw try to avoid it if you are using mod_php, rumors are that it causes memory leak also if I've never suffered of them. regards francesco I'm actually not using threads. Interchange ( http://www.icdevgroup.org ) doesn't work with a threaded perl so neither do I. :) - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Installing GENTOO from CD
I was comparing the installation instructions for Gentoo with that of other Linuxes. I currently have Libranet, SuSE, two KNOPPIXes, UBUNTU, installed and of course some decisions, such as you mention, were needed but not to the extent that Gentoo requires. They didn't have a 100 page set of microinstructions and rhetoric All I had was two sheets of paper for each of these distros.. I'm not claiming that Gentoo can be installed without requiring ANY decisions but surely, the installation of a basic workable Gentoo that then could tailored to whatever you want, could be made as simple as other Linux distros, couldn't it? Picking a linux distribution is like buying a car. There are many different flavors and each comes with its pros and cons. The user manual for a ford escort is shorter than that of a Hummer; that's not an indication of which vehicle is better. The choice, in the end, is to find a distribution which meets your requirements. If all you're concerned about is the length of the installation documentation, then maybe gentoo is not for you. If, however, you want a custom built system that is tuned to your specific hardware with detailed control over what packages are installed, then the binary based distributions will let you down. The difference in the installation documentation size relates to these alternate means of installing linux. We welcome new gentoo converts and assist them to get their boxen up and running and celebrate their decision to use (IMHO) the best distribution available. If the size of the installation documentation keeps a few folks from moving to gentoo, I don't think there's much we can do about it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: easy way to package and transfer binary kernels?
Jesse Guardiani ha scritto:
Jesse Guardiani wrote:
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 02:28, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
Jesse Guardiani ha scritto:
Hello,
Is there a script that makes it easy to package and
transfer a binary kernel? Currently, I'm having to
separately tar, gzip, and sftp the following dirs/files:
/lib/modules/2.6.10-gentoo-r6
/usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
/boot/System.map-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
/boot/initrd-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
/boot/kernel-2.6.10-gentoo-r6
Is there an easier way to do this?
Transfer only /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 and redo a make install
make modules_install,
it should work if not modified after the last install.
Alternatvely you can leave /usr/src/linux-2.6.10-gentoo-r6 out, if you
don't compile it you don't need to copy it.
I tried this today with unsynced clocks on two different machines
and it ended up trying to rebuild the kernel. This doesn't appear
to be a good solution after all.
:oops:
sorry not thinked at that,
you can still disable your cron daemon, move your date behind, make
install and then back again, but it's ... awfull
maybe the your old solution was better,
mount /boot 2 /dev/null
emerge --noreplace =sys-kernel/gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.10-r6
export UNAME_R=2.6.10-gentoo-r6
/lib/modules/${UNAME_R}
/boot/System.map-${UNAME_R}
/boot/initrd-${UNAME_R}
/boot/kernel-${UNAME_R}
unset UNAME_R
umount /boot 2 /dev/null
--
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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: /etc/init.d/alsasound fails to load soundcard module
Bob Sanders wrote: onboard. It's just annoying because if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound stop` then it unloads my soundcard module, but if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound start` then it doesn't load it back in. Placing the module in the kernel-2.6 file helps at boot, but it does nothing to help this init.d case. Hmmm...I just tried that and it works fine. One of my soundcards uses the intel8x0 driver, so it all seems to work ok on 2.6.10-r4. I run 2.6.10-r6. If it's not working, I'd suggest looking to see if what is in /etc/modules.d/alsa is in /etc/modules.conf. If they don't match, do an - update-modules force They're sync'd. But, even that's not correct, alsasound will try to find sound devices in /proc, which if it fails could mean soem system utilities are not working correctly. Which begs the question - have you done an emerge --sync, emerge -uDav world recently? Usually weekly. So: yes. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird apache2 stuff
Grant ha scritto: When I try to restart apache2 I get: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Starting apache2... [ !! ] and there is nothing in the error_log. Trying to stop apache2 give me this: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop * ERROR: apache2 has not yet been started. but my pages are being served just fine. Does anyone know what's going on here? You must have somehow started apache2 manually. try # killall apache sleep 5 /etc/init.d/apache2 start That should restart it for you, and bring it under control of the Gentoo initscripts again. The sleep 5 is to give apache time to finish exiting Thanks, worked like a charm! I wonder how apache2 could have been restarted manually though. Should I be worried? - Grant I bet you are using the thread use flag, it change the MPM of apache ... and make it very slow at shutdown time. Sometimes 5 seconds are no enough too. btw try to avoid it if you are using mod_php, rumors are that it causes memory leak also if I've never suffered of them. regards francesco I'm actually not using threads. Interchange ( http://www.icdevgroup.org ) doesn't work with a threaded perl so neither do I. :) - Grant savvy man ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mpg joiner
I don't know if this is the right mailing list to post this on, but does anyone know of any mpg/avi joining program in portage? To join two files into one (when a movie is clipped for instance)? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mpg joiner
emerge mpgtx On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:43:31 +0100 Christian Johansen wrote: I don't know if this is the right mailing list to post this on, but does anyone know of any mpg/avi joining program in portage? To join two files into one (when a movie is clipped for instance)? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Weird apache2 stuff
more like it hadn't yet stopped perhaps? /etc/init.d/apache2 restart is IMHO unreliable because often the variaus apache daemon processed have not stopped before the start is activated. I think thats the problem you probably had. On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:35:32 -0800 Grant wrote: When I try to restart apache2 I get: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Starting apache2... [ !! ] and there is nothing in the error_log. Trying to stop apache2 give me this: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop * ERROR: apache2 has not yet been started. but my pages are being served just fine. Does anyone know what's going on here? You must have somehow started apache2 manually. try # killall apache sleep 5 /etc/init.d/apache2 start That should restart it for you, and bring it under control of the Gentoo initscripts again. The sleep 5 is to give apache time to finish exiting Thanks, worked like a charm! I wonder how apache2 could have been restarted manually though. Should I be worried? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mpg joiner
Try this: cat foo.mpg bar.mpg final.mpg On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 01:48:49PM +1300, Nick Rout wrote: emerge mpgtx On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:43:31 +0100 Christian Johansen wrote: I don't know if this is the right mailing list to post this on, but does anyone know of any mpg/avi joining program in portage? To join two files into one (when a movie is clipped for instance)? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net Backups are for people who don't pray. -- big Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote Desktop
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 02:48:36PM -0800, timothy johnson wrote: I have my Gentoo machine which I leave at home. But there are times that I want to access it remotely. I have been using a lot of Ncurses programs to get the job done. But I still have some programs that I need a GUI for. What type of server can I set up so I can access my GUI. I have though about VNC, but I am wondering if there is something better. I was wondering if anyone here used NX. Or is there an easy way to get X to run on windows. Something that I can stick on a USB stick and dont have to install. I am thinking that VNC is going to be the way. But I am wondering. What do we have out there? No experience with NX here, but there's a really nice article on the gentoo wiki about setting up a gentoo terminal server using some vnc and gdm tricks. Check out: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xvnc_terminal_server -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net Backups are for people who don't pray. -- big Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] X11 oddity (pointer moves by 2 pixels)
Not sure if this is specific to gentoo, but: I can't move the X11 pointer by only one pixel. When I move the mouse the pointer always moves by two pixels at a time (or more). I've tried xset m default in case it is to do with mouse acceleration and I've tried different mice, nothing helped. There is nothing tricky about my configuration. Just a USB optical mouse, nvidia card, and 1920x1200 display. I don't have this problem at home on a near identical configuration. Any ideas? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote Desktop
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 00:59, Alan wrote: No experience with NX here, but there's a really nice article on the gentoo wiki about setting up a gentoo terminal server using some vnc and gdm tricks. Check out: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xvnc_terminal_server NX is a great product, and free to use for a single user (no licence required). -- Mike Williams pgp76Wz7cLcGN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] X11 oddity (pointer moves by 2 pixels)
I fixed the problem. Think it was caused by the X server receiving two events for every one event that the mouse generated. This is because it was configured with two mice, one on /dev/psaux and the other on /dev/input/mice. But these are effectively the same. David Bryant wrote: Not sure if this is specific to gentoo, but: I can't move the X11 pointer by only one pixel. When I move the mouse the pointer always moves by two pixels at a time (or more). I've tried xset m default in case it is to do with mouse acceleration and I've tried different mice, nothing helped. There is nothing tricky about my configuration. Just a USB optical mouse, nvidia card, and 1920x1200 display. I don't have this problem at home on a near identical configuration. Any ideas? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote Desktop
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:48:36 -0800, timothy johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have my Gentoo machine which I leave at home. But there are times that I want to access it remotely. I have been using a lot of Ncurses programs to get the job done. But I still have some programs that I need a GUI for. What type of server can I set up so I can access my GUI. I have though about VNC, but I am wondering if there is something better. I was wondering if anyone here used NX. Or is there an easy way to get X to run on windows. Something that I can stick on a USB stick and dont have to install. I am thinking that VNC is going to be the way. But I am wondering. What do we have out there? I currently use nxserver-freenx and it's working fine. I've install it on my home laptop and I use the nxclient at work to get in. Works very well. -- Alexandre St-Pierre [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote Desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 timothy johnson wrote: | I have my Gentoo machine which I leave at home. But there are times | that I want to access it remotely. I have been using a lot of Ncurses | programs to get the job done. But I still have some programs that I | need a GUI for. What type of server can I set up so I can access my | GUI. I have though about VNC, but I am wondering if there is something | better. I was wondering if anyone here used NX. Or is there an easy | way to get X to run on windows. Something that I can stick on a USB | stick and dont have to install. I am thinking that VNC is going to be | the way. But I am wondering. What do we have out there? One option is VNC, RealVNC and TightVNC are two versions. http://www.realvnc.com/ http://www.tightvnc.com/ TightVNC is available from gentoo: net-misc/tightvnc-1.3_alpha5 Mike - -- Mike Noble Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key ID: 0xFFDFC13B Key fingerprint: 8204 1297 B9AD 0CED 2FCE 1FB0 9491 5824 FFDF C13B Keyserver: http://pgpkeys.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCEqUilJFYJP/fwTsRAk8qAJ4/WcivJ9hx0a3phWzVbw6i9NmEKACeKlVv l1nFPJ5Yi7HILIzIK4zRR1s= =j3oN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Change Control - Alt Function keys
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 21:59, Brad Niemeyer wrote: I have gentoo with kde running on my home file server. I just bought a new kvm switch and the company decided to use Cntrl-Alt F1-F4 as hotkeys. Since I cannot change the hotkeys in the kvm, i wanted to know where I could change the hotkeys in gentoo. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I don't have a solution for you but I do know a workaround, go to a console by ctrl + alt + F5 and use ctrl 1-4 to switch to the right console after that. -- Rick van Hattem Rick.van.Hattem(at)fawo.nl pgp2Me36Jm46a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.10 and automounting ?
Matt Place wrote: What exactly is supermount, why is it considered 'evil', and was it disabled for its supposed 'evilness'? Supermount is one of the methodologies for making removable drives act the way they do under Windows; the media is automatically unmounted when removed (via the button to eject on the drive), and the media automatically remounted and refreshed when inserted (so that the contents of the new media are correctly shown). I'm not a kernel hacker, but the short version of why it is considered evil is that kernel devs feel that this is a userspace function that should not be managed by the kernel (and additionally that the hacks required to make the kernel manage this functionality are ... evil... in programmer terms). Yes, the patch that enables supermount (supermount is not a native kernel function) was removed from at least the gentoo-dev-sources because it was obsoleted (which the kernel devs had presumably been trying to accomplish for some time). From the Changelog for gentoo-dev-sources: - Removed supermount patch, am told that udev makes this obsolete now. Also, it didn't apply to 2.6.8 anymore, so that made for a good reason to drop it :). The idea was (I guess) that userspace functions like dbus/hal/ivman or even the (presumably less evil) kernelspace subfs were mature enough to replace supermount (for those that want this functionality; everybody doesn't) in combination with udev, but in my experience, this is not the case. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - espersunited.com saga; IMAP and POP3 access
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:32:29 -0600 Michael Sullivan wrote: The problem is that I don't know what's providing IMAP/POP3 on the FC1 box. In redhat-config-services they're just listed as imap and ipop3. I did a full install of FC1 on that box, so all of the packages were already installed; I just had to edit a couple of files in /etc/sysconfig and start the daemons. All I know about the IMAP and POP3 services is that they depend on xinetd. Does that help? The problem is if you don't know what software package is providing imap and pop on your FC3 box then we'll find it difficult to replicate it for you. Try telnetting to ports 110 and 143 on your FC3 box, the servers usually announce themselves by name. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - espersunited.com saga; IMAP and POP3 access
OK thats annoying, by contrast I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ telnet localhost 143
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT
THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION STARTTLS] Courier-IMAP ready.
Copyright 1998-2004 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for distribution
information.
ie, my IMAP server tells me its running Courier.
Yours doesn't say at all which means either:
1. it is not running courier, or
2. it is running courier, but courier is configured to not announce
itself by name.
Therefore we are no further ahead.
To unravel this go to the FC box and look in the /etc/xinet.d/ directory and
look at the file that starts imap, its probably called imap. Look at
that file and see what program is being run. I don't run imap from
xinetd so the example I am about to give is for the printer service, but the
principle is the same:
service printer
{
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= lp
server = /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd
disable = yes
the server being run is /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd, so now you need
to find out what package that file belongs to
rpm -qf /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd - should give you the package name.
(obviously that is for my printer example)
report back the answer and we will work from there :-)
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:22:05 -0600
Michael Sullivan wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ telnet bullet 110
Trying 192.168.1.2...
Connected to bullet.espersunited.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK POP3 bullet.espersunited.com v2003.83rh server ready
Trying 192.168.1.2...
Connected to bullet.espersunited.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS STARTTLS AUTH=LOGIN]
bullet.espersunited.com IMAP4rev1 2003.338rh at Tue, 15 Feb 2005
20:18:41 -0600 (CST)
I don't quite understand this information, but it seems to me that it
doesn't say anything beyond what we already know. And also bullet has
FC1 installed, not FC3, if that matters...
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 15:03 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:32:29 -0600
Michael Sullivan wrote:
The problem is that I don't know what's providing IMAP/POP3 on the FC1
box. In redhat-config-services they're just listed as imap and
ipop3. I did a full install of FC1 on that box, so all of the
packages were already installed; I just had to edit a couple of files
in /etc/sysconfig and start the daemons. All I know about the IMAP and
POP3 services is that they depend on xinetd. Does that help?
The problem is if you don't know what software package is providing imap
and pop on your FC3 box then we'll find it difficult to replicate it
for you.
Try telnetting to ports 110 and 143 on your FC3 box, the servers usually
announce themselves by name.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - espersunited.com saga; IMAP and POP3 access
I think it might be uw-imap. IIRC, back when I used Mandrake, the imap package
was uw-imap
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 18:44, Nick Rout wrote:
OK thats annoying, by contrast I get:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick $ telnet localhost 143
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 UIDPLUS CHILDREN NAMESPACE THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT
THREAD=REFERENCES SORT QUOTA IDLE ACL ACL2=UNION STARTTLS] Courier-IMAP
ready. Copyright 1998-2004 Double Precision, Inc. See COPYING for
distribution information.
ie, my IMAP server tells me its running Courier.
Yours doesn't say at all which means either:
1. it is not running courier, or
2. it is running courier, but courier is configured to not announce
itself by name.
Therefore we are no further ahead.
To unravel this go to the FC box and look in the /etc/xinet.d/ directory and
look at the file that starts imap, its probably called imap. Look at
that file and see what program is being run. I don't run imap from
xinetd so the example I am about to give is for the printer service, but the
principle is the same:
service printer
{
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= lp
server = /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd
disable = yes
the server being run is /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd, so now you need
to find out what package that file belongs to
rpm -qf /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd - should give you the package name.
(obviously that is for my printer example)
report back the answer and we will work from there :-)
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:22:05 -0600
Michael Sullivan wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ telnet bullet 110
Trying 192.168.1.2...
Connected to bullet.espersunited.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK POP3 bullet.espersunited.com v2003.83rh server ready
Trying 192.168.1.2...
Connected to bullet.espersunited.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS STARTTLS AUTH=LOGIN]
bullet.espersunited.com IMAP4rev1 2003.338rh at Tue, 15 Feb 2005
20:18:41 -0600 (CST)
I don't quite understand this information, but it seems to me that it
doesn't say anything beyond what we already know. And also bullet has
FC1 installed, not FC3, if that matters...
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 15:03 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:32:29 -0600
Michael Sullivan wrote:
The problem is that I don't know what's providing IMAP/POP3 on the FC1
box. In redhat-config-services they're just listed as imap and
ipop3. I did a full install of FC1 on that box, so all of the
packages were already installed; I just had to edit a couple of files
in /etc/sysconfig and start the daemons. All I know about the IMAP and
POP3 services is that they depend on xinetd. Does that help?
The problem is if you don't know what software package is providing imap
and pop on your FC3 box then we'll find it difficult to replicate it
for you.
Try telnetting to ports 110 and 143 on your FC3 box, the servers usually
announce themselves by name.
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Re: [gentoo-user] runlevels + Single User
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 17:08, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:28:59 -0500, Willie Wong wrote: The other thing would be, How can one use runlevels to signify whether or not we want to boot into nonetwork or default. man init basically you change the entry in /etc/inittab that says id:3:initdefault: to whatever pleases you. Not with gentoo, which uses named runlevels. The correct answer is to append softlevel=nonetwork to the kernel line in GRUB/LILO. Ah.. This is what I was looking for. but th eother post about passing init=/bin/bash works even better for my purposes -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 11:41:24 up 2:31, 5 users, load average: 0.32, 0.19, 0.21 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] symlinks missing when distcc installed
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:52:41 -0500, Dave Nebinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, it didn't work. Distcc did not distribute any compile tasks to the other computers. I tracked it down as far as I can. It looks like there are not any links from the /usr/lib/distcc/bin directory to the distcc binary. For a short term solution, I created the links on the PCs that did not have them. Great Abap! But did distcc work after these links were created? This came up as an issue before on the list but I don't believe anyone tracked down the source of the problem... Sorry, I forgot to mention that yes, with the links added manually, distcc worked fine. The just of what was happenning is that the path to the distcc links is put in your PATH variable at the start. This way, when cc (or c++ or gcc or ...) is to be executed, the appropriate link to distcc is executed instead. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
