Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest

2005-04-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:45:21 -0700 Robert Persson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| But what's wrong with tools to make things easier if they don't impair
| the  performance of the system?  Why not have a nice simple
| X-configurator that  does the job of the SuSE or mandrake equivalents?

Get coding :)

| For the most part, Gentoo is very straightforward to set up if you
| have the  patience to follow the howtos step-by-step.  However some
| things can still be  damned hard, configuring X being one of them. 
| Why not be more open to  solutions to these problems?

They're not large enough problems that they're worth spending huge
amounts of time on.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Richard Fish
Martoni wrote:

 What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)?


This is too easy...gcc.  Without that, nothing else, including the
kernel, would exist.

There is really only one app I couldn't live without whether I am
running Windows or Linux, and that is VMWare. 

But what I really value on Linux is the freedom, of choice, of the code,
and of configuration.  I have configured my  Gentoo system to work
exactly the way I want it, exactly how it suits me best.  It is a level
of control not available on Windows.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:57:39 +0200 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| Martoni wrote:
|  What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at
|  all)?
| 
| 
| This is too easy...gcc.  Without that, nothing else, including the
| kernel, would exist.

egcs

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Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest

2005-04-06 Thread Philip Webb
050405 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 050405 Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 maybe one should stop blaming the user
 and consider that X11 is crying for a good UI for configuration.
 I hear Mandrake have quite a nice GUI configuration tool these days.

IIRC when i installed Gentoo in my newly-built box in 2003,
i used the X config file created by Mandrake from my 2000 box,
as i use the same monitor for both machines.

Gentoo is not for beginners, but it doesn't hurt to have good tools
 sometimes that includes a GUI interface, eg configuring Xscreensaver.
even Vim is easier to use in the Gvim version, at least for me.

there's no harm in being a fanatic, if you know when to stop (grin).

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Re: [gentoo-user] pernicious printer problem

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Ulm
Lucien Dunning wrote:
I know in the CUPS guide it suggests to push data right to /dev/lp0 (
echo bla bla bla  /dev/lp0), did u try this?  I know my printer at
one point would print what I echoed to it, but not through cups. 
However don't ask me how I fixed it, I don't remember, and I'm not
sure if I ever did.  CUPS has never cooperated with my computer.

if echo to lp0 works then its probably cups,  and if it doesn't then
something else.
No reaction from the printer to  cat foo.txt  /dev/lp0. I also tried
appending a ^L without success. This would suggest a problem with
/dev/lp0, which is unfortunate, since I have no idea how to diagnose
this (unlike CUPS, which has a nice logfile).
I'll check the cable and pins with a multimeter, but otherwise I'm
stymied.
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[gentoo-user] GUI X configuration (Was: Duplicate posts from ...)

2005-04-06 Thread Richard Fish
Robert Persson wrote:

But what's wrong with tools to make things easier if they don't impair the 
performance of the system?  Why not have a nice simple X-configurator that 
does the job of the SuSE or mandrake equivalents?  You could even unmerge it 
  


To me this depends upon what level of X configurability you are talking
about. 

1. Do you want something for initial configuration, to recognize the
graphics card, monitor, keyboard and mouse, and make a reasonable
defaults to get those things working at a decent color depth and resolution?

2. Or do you want something that allows you to tweak and configure every
possible setting of the graphics card, monitor timings, mouse sample
rates, etc.

For me, #1 is silly on a modern computer, because all of that can be
detected and configured automatically.  The X server can detect what
graphics chip I have, how large my LCD screen is, what kind of USB mouse
I have, etc.  Autoconfiguration is the goal of X -configure,  and
indeed you should be able to run X.org even *without* a configuration
file and have it use sane defaults.  Most users don't want to have to
configure such basic details, whether it is in a GUI or not, just like
they don't expect to tell the system how much memory is installed.

I might want to adjust some of those settings, which is where something
like #2 would be useful.  But I doubt anyone could sanely do this for
every possible setting on every possible driver including the
proprietary ones.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Alan
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:01:44AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:57:39 +0200 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 | Martoni wrote:
 |  What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at
 |  all)?
 | 
 | 
 | This is too easy...gcc.  Without that, nothing else, including the
 | kernel, would exist.
 
 egcs

Yea, but while both these apps are needed for everything else, I don't
think they are a killer app in themselves.  Neither of them are
something you'd say to convince $windows_person that they should check
out linux.  I'd say something like the gimp (though that's available on
windows now :) or evolution (maybe).  Man, I used to know this
stuff. grrr




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Re: [gentoo-user] prevent postgresql from upgrading

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Persson
On April 5, 2005 05:56 pm, quoth Manuel McLure:

 Use

  dev-db/postgresql-7.4.7-r1

 in /etc/portage/package.mask

or something like
dev-db/postgresql-7.5
if you want to allow bug and security fixes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Persson
On April 5, 2005 10:56 pm, quoth Ciaran McCreesh:
 On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:45:21 -0700 Robert Persson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | But what's wrong with tools to make things easier if they don't impair
 | the  performance of the system?  Why not have a nice simple
 | X-configurator that  does the job of the SuSE or mandrake equivalents?

 Get coding :)

If I had the know-how I would.  I didn't mean to say that you should be doing 
a better job than you are, or that you should be doing more of this or that.  
I'm sorry if it came across that way.  It's just that it seemed to me like 
you were saying that there is something inherently inappropriate about having 
this kind of tool in Gentoo.  I'm sorry if I misunderstood.
 
Robert
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[gentoo-user] KDM Update

2005-04-06 Thread Ian K
Hey everyone!
I just upgraded KDE to 3.4 and am wondering how to replace KDM 3.2.2 
with KDM 3.4?
Thanks!

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RE: [gentoo-user] physical location monitoring with Gentoo

2005-04-06 Thread W.Kenworthy
Something I am confused about: is wpa/wpa-psk done in the driver or
hardware?  I tried setting up wpa-supplicant but its failing on my old
orinoco card - do I persist or get a new card?

BillK

On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 20:27 -0400, Covington, Chris wrote:
  So, no, WPA is not _as_ vulnerable as WEP yet.  But I wouldn't
  rely on either of them.   
 
 Trying using WPA/WEP AND MAC address filters... That should last for
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[gentoo-user] per-user subversion repository

2005-04-06 Thread Qiangning Hong
I want to let normal users to svnadmin create their own repsoities in
their home dir and can access the repositories via apache using
http://myhost/~username/svn/repos1, etc... And also, the user can
assign username/password pairs for accessing his reposities.

 --- Anyone has tried this?

Most tutorials I googled are talking about creating reposities in a
system-wide location such as /var/svn and writing static apache config
file. How to move the config part from /etc/apache to a user-base
location?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDM Update

2005-04-06 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 6. April 2005 01:51 schrieb ext Ian K:

 I just upgraded KDE to 3.4 and am wondering how to replace KDM 3.2.2
 with KDM 3.4?

A simple /etc/init.d/xdm restart should do.

HTH...

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

2005-04-06 Thread W.Kenworthy
How else do we know about problem hardware and vendors with Linux - if
it is fixable we get to know about it, if not we find out why and gain
from that.  Is this gentoo relevant? Yes and no - such publicity is what
makes manufacturers sit up and take notice and gentoo as well as linux
in general will benefit - but not if we accept it and hide our heads in
the sand.

As well as poor hardware, netgear support sucks.  In OZ we are supported
out of asia by people who dont understand english or our culture (Oz has
a culture?) - it took many days/emails until it was escalated to the
point where I got to email a westerner who understood what I was trying
to say.  In my case it was a firewall/router that would go to sleep:
reccomendation was to upgrade to beta, unsupported drivers.  It doesnt
work, sorry ... In the end I left a linux box up 24 hrs sending
keep-alives, so the windows boxes would still have net access in the
morning.

Ive stopped reccomending anything netgear as I can bear hardware that
takes some time to get going, but not in combination with non-existent
support AFTER you have paid your money.

BillK


On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 20:32 -0700, Matthew Marlowe wrote:
   Allthough I am not sure this is the best place for a personal rant 
   against
   some company, I am sorry to hear of your bad luck.
  
  Maybe not, but here is another one that is a prime example of why not to
  trust netgear:
  
 

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying vim / keyboard behavior

2005-04-06 Thread steven pan
use A is right

On Apr 5, 2005 10:29 PM, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My editor of choice is vim. I administer about 5 systems. On one of
 these, the following behavior happens.
 
 Before i decide to go into append or insert mode, I want to go to the
 end of a line. I hit the END key. The cursor flashes, and if there is a
 letter underneat it and it is lowecase, it's uppercased.
 
 No other systems do this to me. I'm ssh'ing into all of these systems
 from one system, so I'm using the same keyboard every time.
 
 Any ideas?
 
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[gentoo-user] hdparm question

2005-04-06 Thread Khan
hello,

bash-2.05b# hdparm -tT /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   3100 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1550.24 MB/sec
HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate
ioctl for device
 Timing buffered disk reads:  170 MB in  3.02 seconds =  56.28 MB/sec
HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate
ioctl for device
bash-2.05b#

I think that here is something wrong. What Can I do to Fix it.

Tnx


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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

2005-04-06 Thread Martoni
On Apr 6, 2005 5:32 AM, Matthew Marlowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Netgear used to make decent network cards, but that stopped 3-4 years ago.To my knowledge, linksys and dlink never had a great reputation to beginwith.
Usually our Netgear stuff works. What actually broke was DLink
switches. We were happily working along with our DLink switches until
we installed MS SQL 2000 Server. It totally broke them. Apparently (?)
SQL Server generates so much traffic that the DLink switches couldn't
cope with it (the only change we did was install SQL 2000 Server). We
had to switch to 3Com (and if these break it's Cisco I suppose).
My horror story is with LG I don't touch anything they make anymore (my
previous employer had countless problems with a PBX, and thinking that
was a fluke I bought 5 LG 17 screens - all broke within a year).Regards,Martin S

Re: [gentoo-user] Poll? What applications do you want to see?

2005-04-06 Thread Spider
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 07:15 +0100, Andreas Lw wrote:
 Hi,
cut
 
 And I apologize if I list any packages already in there, I have'nt 
 bothered to check the list of what's already there.

A few were (netcat, aterm, apache, mod_php, {open,black}box the mailers
were decidedly not.


A few chats with the Catalyst dev's got me up to speed on a viable
solution, and I know have something that can deal with conflicts in the
builds rather neatly. (by means of sledgehammer, basically)


So, welcome to a world of binary exim and postfix ;-)



Any other takers for requests?


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[gentoo-user] ggi is low level library (lower then SDL)?

2005-04-06 Thread
Being dumb again. I really know nothing about graphic libraries. 

I noticed many packages can be compiled with ggi or sdl USE flag, and
libsdl can be compiled with ggi USE flag, but libggi cannot be compiled
with sdl USE flag. Then I come to guess, since SDL can use GGI for
rendering, GGI should be some lowever level graphic engine. Thus, if an
application can be compiled to work with either ggi or sdl, then it should
be faster using ggi. 

I am using ultra-sparc U2 with a very normal video card, what should I
choose if an application (game or video player) support both SDL and GGI?
And should I compile libsdl with ggi USE flag? 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Two users, two soundcards. How ?

2005-04-06 Thread Ivan Yosifov
Well, I asked on ALSA-user and there is still no response. I will try
linux-audio-user. Thanks.

On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 00:10 +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote:
  Thanks for the info, but what are the files I need to
  chown/chmod ? I am using ALSA, no OSS emulation layer.
 
 phew, that's too much for me ;-) .
 
 This is concerning ALSA sequencer, and I'd recommend to join 
 the ALSA user mailing list or the linux audio user 
 mailinglist.
 
 AFAIK, asoundrc does not contain any section about user 
 priviledges, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] hdparm question

2005-04-06 Thread Daniel Drake
Khan wrote:
 bash-2.05b# hdparm -tT /dev/sda
 
 /dev/sda:
  Timing cached reads:   3100 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1550.24 MB/sec
 HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate
 ioctl for device
  Timing buffered disk reads:  170 MB in  3.02 seconds =  56.28 MB/sec
 HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate
 ioctl for device
 bash-2.05b#
 
 I think that here is something wrong. What Can I do to Fix it.

Upgrade to a newer kernel where those commands are permitted. You are looking
for 2.6.12-rc2 or newer.

It's nothing to worry about for now though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] hdparm question

2005-04-06 Thread Henrik Andersson
Daniel Drake wrote:

 Upgrade to a newer kernel where those commands are permitted. You are looking
 for 2.6.12-rc2 or newer.
 
 It's nothing to worry about for now though.
 

does that mean that kernel =2.6.12-rc2 will have better support for
SATA? I guess that Khan had a sata-drive.
Today, hddtemp and smartctl are, from what I have noticed, unusable with
sata-drives.

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[gentoo-user] Updating packages and running them at the same time

2005-04-06 Thread James
I was just wondering whether this is a good idea or not (I assume it's
not, but I haven't seen anything to confirm this).

For example is it OK to emerge update x11-base from x windows?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Two users, two soundcards. How ?

2005-04-06 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 12:56:05AM +, Ivan Yosifov wrote:
 Thanks for the info, but what are the files I need to chown/chmod ?
 I am using ALSA, no OSS emulation layer.
To use the soundcard you have to be in the sound group in the default
gentoo setup. The easiest would be to make a sound1 group and put the
second sound card in that group (cleaner solution: two groups
sound1/sound2), then put each user in only one of the groups.
What you need to modify to change the permissions of the devices depends
on your device management (devfs/udev/none). Devfs and udev pretty much
set the permissions everytime on boot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Persson
On April 5, 2005 09:27 pm, quoth Martoni:
 What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)?

 A unlikely candidate has surfaced here at home where the boys next door
 live in my study to play Battle for Wesnoth on *my* computer (rather than
 The Hobbit on my sons Windows box). :) I'm considering getting VMWare for
 his box, installing Gentoo on it - and having them play the Wesnoth game on
 that ...

 Personally I wouldn't live without Kontact - which is more of a KDE killer
 app (together with the F4 open terminal function in Konq) ever since
 Evolution drifted away from the integrated approach.


 Regards,

 Martin S

I agree that Kontact is a pretty major reason to run linux.

I would also say that MLDonkey is a much better way to do file sharing than 
what is available for windows because it is not vulnerable to gui crashes and 
therefore runs much longer.

If you are into typography (a minority interest I know) then the humble 
fontforge is pretty damn good.  Much better than Fontographer which is hugely 
expensive despite the fact that it hasn't changed for several years.

Zynaddsubfx is a wonderful musical instrument, even though there are still 
many more great softsynths for windows than there are for linux.

And I almost forgot jack!  A fantastic sound server.  Also plays well with 
AudioUnits in OSX, which opens a realm of possibilities for networked signal 
processing between *nix boxes.  Still short of mature clients, although Linux 
music software has come a long way recently.  There's a recording studio in 
Minneapolis that makes heavy use of Linux.  Flexible networking and lack of 
per-instance license fees bring their costs down massively and let clients 
continue to work on their projects in their own time outside of the studio, 
which can be very useful.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 06:27:16AM +0200, Martoni wrote:
 What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)?
 
 A unlikely candidate has surfaced here at home where the boys next door 
 live in my study to play Battle for Wesnoth on *my* computer (rather than 
 The Hobbit on my sons Windows box). :)  
Shhh, Wesnoth is available for windows.
http://www.wesnoth.org/downloads

There is no killer app that didnt get ported, I guess. But linux is
much more secure already by default.
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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the use of etcat use?

2005-04-06 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:40:05 +0100 Russ Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Ash Varma wrote:
  
  So try:
  
  $ equery uses package_name
  
  eg.
  
 
 I keep saying this but nobody seems to listen. 'equery uses' only
 works for packages that you already have installed, which makes it far
 less useful than 'etcat uses' was, which worked with packages you
 haven't installed yet.

You are wrong here. Example:

$ equery uses
Display USE flags for a given package

Syntax:
  uses local-opts pkgspec
local-opts is either of: 
  -a, --all - include non-installed packages

$ equery uses a2ps
[ Searching for packages matching a2ps... ]
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[ Legend: Left column  (U) - USE flags from make.conf  ]
[   : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
!!! No installed packages found for a2ps

$ equery uses -a a2ps
[ Searching for packages matching a2ps... ]
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[ Legend: Left column  (U) - USE flags from make.conf  ]
[   : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
[ Found these USE variables for app-text/a2ps-4.13c-r2 ]
 U I
 + + nls : unknown
 + + tetex   : Adds support for teTeX
 - - cjk : Adds support for Multi-byte character languages (Chinese,
Japanese, Korean)
- - vanilla : Do not add extra patches which change default behaviour


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Re: [gentoo-user] system with no network needs updates

2005-04-06 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig
Stroller wrote:
On Apr 5, 2005, at 7:54 pm, Grant wrote:
PS and I dont see how the line in the wiki could have worked well 
unless
emerge -fp used to have different behavior.

Thanks a lot Eugene, that second line worked great.  Let me know if I
should update the wiki:
gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Gentoo_for_dialup_users

Yes, you should.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updating packages and running them at the same time

2005-04-06 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
James wrote:
I was just wondering whether this is a good idea or not (I assume it's
not, but I haven't seen anything to confirm this).
For example is it OK to emerge update x11-base from x windows?
Thanks,
James
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[gentoo-user] Americas Army

2005-04-06 Thread Cumbers
Hey

Americas Army within portage is trying to download from 3dgamers the 221
version of the game, which has been replaced with the 230 version. So
the emerge tries to download a file that is not there, but the 230
download is.

My question is how do I let someone within gentoo know that this is the
case, and get them to upgrade the portage to reflect this change of
versions?

Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] hdparm question

2005-04-06 Thread Daniel Drake
Henrik Andersson wrote:
 does that mean that kernel =2.6.12-rc2 will have better support for
 SATA? I guess that Khan had a sata-drive.

As always, SATA support improves with every kernel release.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Martoni
On Apr 6, 2005 11:10 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 06:27:16AM +0200, Martoni wrote: What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)? A unlikely candidate has surfaced here at home where the boys next door live in my study to play Battle for Wesnoth on *my* computer (rather than The Hobbit on my sons Windows box). :)Shhh, Wesnoth is available for windows.http://www.wesnoth.org/downloadsThere is no killer app that didnt get ported, I guess. But linux ismuch more secure already by default.
Oh! :)
* Hoping to get his 'puter back * 
Regards,Martin S

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating packages and running them at the same time

2005-04-06 Thread James
OK, Thanks guys :)

James

Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:

 James wrote:

 I was just wondering whether this is a good idea or not (I assume it's
 not, but I haven't seen anything to confirm this).

 For example is it OK to emerge update x11-base from x windows?

 Thanks,

 James


 It's ok, only remember to restart your X server when finished :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Americas Army

2005-04-06 Thread Janne Johansson
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 10:52 +, Cumbers wrote:
 My question is how do I let someone within gentoo know that this is the
 case, and get them to upgrade the portage to reflect this change of
 versions?

File a bug if there isn't one:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/

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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the use of etcat use?

2005-04-06 Thread Russ Brown
Renat Golubchyk wrote:
 On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:40:05 +0100 Russ Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
Ash Varma wrote:

So try:

$ equery uses package_name

eg.


I keep saying this but nobody seems to listen. 'equery uses' only
works for packages that you already have installed, which makes it far
less useful than 'etcat uses' was, which worked with packages you
haven't installed yet.
 
 
 You are wrong here. Example:
 
 $ equery uses
 Display USE flags for a given package
 
 Syntax:
   uses local-opts pkgspec
 local-opts is either of: 
   -a, --all - include non-installed packages
 

Excellent, good spot: especially considering that the option isn't
mentioned anywhere in the man page... I also tried 'equery --help' but
nothing there either. It hadn't occurred to me to just try running the
command with no package argument.

Thanks for that.

On a related issue, etcat has the very useful 'versions' command which
lists all versions of the package in portage along with their
masked/installed status. I can't find an equivalent in equery, but I'm
now starting to wonder if it is there but undocumented. Any ideas? If I
can find something to do that I can stop using etcat completely. :-)

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[gentoo-user] Gnome 2.10 gnome-keyboard-properties trouble

2005-04-06 Thread Ivan Yosifov
Hello,

I'm having the following problem with Gnome 2.10:

When I start gnome-keyboard-properties and change something in the
Layouts or Layout options tabs I get two error windows.

One of them is:

Error activating XKB configuration.
It can happen under various circumstances:
- a bug in libxklavier library
- a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
- X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation

X server version data:
Gentoo Linux (The X.Org Foundation 6.8.2, revision r1-0.1.2)
60802000

If you report this situation as a bug, please include:
- The result of bxprop -root | grep XKB/b
- The result of bgconftool-2
-R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd/b


The other is:

There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.

Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work
correctly.

The Settings Daemon restarted too many times.

GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log
in.


I did some googling, this seems to be a common problem, but could not
find any concrete solution. Anyone else getting this ? What did you do
to fix it ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Americas Army

2005-04-06 Thread Daniel Drake
Cumbers wrote:
 My question is how do I let someone within gentoo know that this is the
 case, and get them to upgrade the portage to reflect this change of
 versions?

http://bugs.gentoo.org

Be sure to check that the new version isn't already available in the testing
tree first. If it is, you should file a bug anyway, to get it moved into the
stable tree.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Sending mail to a program

2005-04-06 Thread Michele Noberasco
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 17:41:44 +0200
Christian Parpart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The file sysexits.h defines lots of standard software error codes.
Didn't know of this include... will have a look at it :-)

  while (getline(line, len, stdin) != -1)
  fprintf(out, %s, line);
 hmm... I'm not complaining, it's your code. But this one would be
 better AFAIK
   write(fileno(out), line, len);
Way better :-)
I wrote that code in 2 minutes as a quick example, not as the perfect
one ;-)

 For some reason, they provide EX_OK in the include file I
 mentionte above.
For completeness sake I would say. Anyway, stdlib.h defines
EXIT_SUCCESS and EXIT_FAILURE, and has done so for a long long time...

 Finally, just one question (I'm curious ;). Why did you switch from
 C++ to C? (with regard to your provided sources)
Well, I could say that C++ is a bit overkill for such a simple
program... and it is. But I'll say instead that altough I can easily
think in C, I never wrote a line of C++ code :-P

Bye
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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the use of etcat use?

2005-04-06 Thread Christoph Gysin
Russ Brown wrote:
Excellent, good spot: especially considering that the option isn't
mentioned anywhere in the man page... I also tried 'equery --help' but
nothing there either. It hadn't occurred to me to just try running the
command with no package argument.
$ equery uses --help
Display USE flags for a given package
Syntax:
  uses local-opts pkgspec
local-opts is either of:
  -a, --all - include non-installed packages
On a related issue, etcat has the very useful 'versions' command which
lists all versions of the package in portage along with their
masked/installed status. I can't find an equivalent in equery, but I'm
now starting to wonder if it is there but undocumented. Any ideas? If I
can find something to do that I can stop using etcat completely. :-)
$ equery --help
...
 list(l) local-opts pkgspec - list all packages matching pkgspec
...
$ equery list --help
List all packages matching a query pattern
Syntax:
  list local-opts pkgspec
local-opts is either of:
  -i, --installed - search installed packages (default)
  -I, --exclude-installed - do not search installed packages
  -p, --portage-tree  - also search in portage tree (/usr/portage)
  -o, --overlay-tree  - also search in overlay tree (/usr/local/portage)
$ equery list -p -o mplayer
[ Searching for package 'mplayer' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
 * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
[-P-] [  ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre4-r7 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r4 (0)
[-P-] [  ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r5 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r2 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r3 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r1 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r2 (0)
[-P-] [  ] x11-themes/mplayer-skins-0.2-r3 (0)
[-P-] [M~] x11-themes/mplayer-skins-0.2-r4 (0)
 * overlay tree (/usr/local/portage)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Americas Army

2005-04-06 Thread Christoph Gysin
Cumbers wrote:
Americas Army within portage is trying to download from 3dgamers the 221
version of the game, which has been replaced with the 230 version. So
the emerge tries to download a file that is not there, but the 230
download is.
It's still in the testing branch. You can try packages from the testing 
branch with:
$ echo games-fps/americas-army-230 ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords
My question is how do I let someone within gentoo know that this is the
case, and get them to upgrade the portage to reflect this change of
versions?
As answered by others: http://bugs.gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] what's the use of etcat use?

2005-04-06 Thread Russ Brown
Christoph Gysin wrote:
 Russ Brown wrote:
 
 Excellent, good spot: especially considering that the option isn't
 mentioned anywhere in the man page... I also tried 'equery --help' but
 nothing there either. It hadn't occurred to me to just try running the
 command with no package argument.
 
 
 $ equery uses --help
 Display USE flags for a given package
 
 Syntax:
   uses local-opts pkgspec
 local-opts is either of:
   -a, --all - include non-installed packages
 
 On a related issue, etcat has the very useful 'versions' command which
 lists all versions of the package in portage along with their
 masked/installed status. I can't find an equivalent in equery, but I'm
 now starting to wonder if it is there but undocumented. Any ideas? If I
 can find something to do that I can stop using etcat completely. :-)
 
 
 $ equery --help
 ...
  list(l) local-opts pkgspec - list all packages matching pkgspec
 ...
 
 $ equery list --help
 List all packages matching a query pattern
 Syntax:
   list local-opts pkgspec
 local-opts is either of:
   -i, --installed - search installed packages (default)
   -I, --exclude-installed - do not search installed packages
   -p, --portage-tree  - also search in portage tree (/usr/portage)
   -o, --overlay-tree  - also search in overlay tree
 (/usr/local/portage)
 
 $ equery list -p -o mplayer
 [ Searching for package 'mplayer' in all categories among: ]
  * installed packages
  * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
 [-P-] [  ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre4-r7 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r4 (0)
 [-P-] [  ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r5 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r2 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r3 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r1 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r2 (0)
 [-P-] [  ] x11-themes/mplayer-skins-0.2-r3 (0)
 [-P-] [M~] x11-themes/mplayer-skins-0.2-r4 (0)
  * overlay tree (/usr/local/portage)
 
 Christoph

Nice one.

$ etcat versions mplayer
[ Results for search key   : mplayer ]
[ Candidate applications found : 7 ]

 Only printing found installed programs.

*  media-video/mplayer :
[   ] 1.0_pre4-r7 (0)
[M~ ] 1.0_pre5-r2 (0)
[M~ ] 1.0_pre5-r3 (0)
[M~ ] 1.0_pre5-r4 (0)
[  I] 1.0_pre5-r5 (0)
[M~ ] 1.0_pre6-r1 (0)
[M~ ] 1.0_pre6-r2 (0)


$ equery list -p -o mplayer
[ Searching for package 'mplayer' in all categories among: ]
 * installed packages
[I--] [  ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r5 (0)
 * Portage tree (/usr/portage)
[-P-] [  ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre4-r7 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r4 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r2 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre5-r3 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r1 (0)
[-P-] [M~] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre6-r2 (0)
[-P-] [  ] x11-themes/mplayer-skins-0.2-r3 (0)
[-P-] [M~] x11-themes/mplayer-skins-0.2-r4 (0)



More keypresses than the etcat form, and I prefer etcat's output format,
but at least it's possible with equery. Man page still needs fixing
though. ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] 3Com Gigabit NIC's in Linux?

2005-04-06 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi,


* fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 9:49:30 PM:

 I can't really tell if these 3com gigabit NIC's work in linux, anybody
 happen to know?

  3C996B-T
  3C2000-T

3c996b-t works here, don't know about the other.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache RProxy setup

2005-04-06 Thread Patrick Marquetecken

 Eric S. Johansson wrote:

 Leo wrote:

 Eric:

 I am not familiar with pound...

 My reverse proxy is only for web requests :)

This is how i do it in the apache conf:

ProxyPass /exchange/ http://SPBmail/exchange/
ProxyPassReverse /exchange/ http://SPBmail/exchange/

the second part is toward the other server.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...

2005-04-06 Thread Digby Tarvin
Thank you both for your comments. A little bit disappointing given that
there is so much questionable configurability in the kdmrc file, yet
something I actually used is taken away with no configuration option
to put it back :-/

It may be that most users like to stick to the one WM, but how many
would know to tinker with the menu before they login for the first
time to choose their preferred WM. Or perhaps it is all a cunning plan
to increase KDE market share

Anyway, at least I now know to stop looking. I guess I either change the
source or roll back to an older version.

Or does anyone know of any interesting alternatives to XDM and KDM that
I should look at?

Regards,
DigbyT

On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 04:47:37PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 
 On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:41:09 -0700
 John Myers wrote:
 
  On Tuesday 05 April 2005 07:20, Digby Tarvin wrote:
   Now on my old SuSE KDM, underneath the Password line is heading
   Session Type with a drop down menu which in its passive state
   shows the window manager that will be used by default once you
   enter your user name.
  
   On the bottom line are four buttons/menus: Go, Clear, Menu and Shutdown,
   with 'menu' just containing the 'restart x-server' option.
  
   However on my Gentoo install, I get no Session Type line, and only
   three options on the bottom line: Login, Clear and Menu.
  
   Now the Shutdown and Session Type functionality does exist on
   the gentoo setup, but it is burried down in the 'Menu' sub-menus,
   nowhere near as convenient to get to, and as I change window managers
   all the time, annoying not to have a display of what the default is
   going to be for the next session.
  
   So I am curious - is there a setting somewhere that I have not
   stumbled accross that controls this behaviour? Has KDM taken a
   backward step? Or did SuSE make some improvements that hasn't found
   their way into other systems yet??
  
  AFAIK, you're out of luck, unless you want to modify the KDM source 
  yourself. 
  I don't remember how 2.2 kdm worked, but I know all the 3.x kdms I've used 
  have the layout you describe. Also, IIRC, there have been discussions on 
  the 
  KDE lists about what the name of the Menu menu should be, because of its 
  contents, including the Session Type submenu.
  
  Actually , now that you mention it, I do remember the session type option. 
  But 
  I certainly haven't seen it since I moved to Gentoo (post-kde-3.0), and I 
  do 
  think it eventually disappeared from my Mandrake kdm back when I used 
  Mandrake.
 
 Like John I am pretty sure that this is a feature of the current kdm
 setup. I got lost finding sessions to start with. I dunno why they hid
 it in menu - perhaps to unclutter, or perhaps to be less confusing to
 people that just want to keep using the same WM.
 
 BTW the graphical configurator for kdm can be started with kcmshell kdm - 
 or somewhere in the k menu.
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...

2005-04-06 Thread James Hiscock
 Anyway, at least I now know to stop looking. I guess I either change the
 source or roll back to an older version.
 
 Or does anyone know of any interesting alternatives to XDM and KDM that
 I should look at?

gdm? entrance?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Stop The Duplicate Post Whining Please

2005-04-06 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Robert Persson wrote:
On April 5, 2005 05:12 pm, quoth fire-eyes:
I get home and more than half the posts are people complaining about the
dupe posts.
I know it must have looked a bit depressing at first sight, but if you read 
some of the later posts you would have found that the thread had quickly gone 
completely off-topic, including an interesting discussion about user 
interface design.  I think the problem is less about whining and more about 
knowing when to change the title of a thread. 
then someone would bitch about thread theft or some such rot... ;-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3Com Gigabit NIC's in Linux?

2005-04-06 Thread fire-eyes
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 13:49 +0200, Timo Boettcher wrote:

  I can't really tell if these 3com gigabit NIC's work in linux, anybody
  happen to know?
 
   3C996B-T
   3C2000-T
 
 3c996b-t works here, don't know about the other.

Great to hear, thank you for the input.

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[gentoo-user] Bug in Gentoo udev guide?

2005-04-06 Thread David D. Rea
I noticed that the Gentoo udev Guide
(http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml) still refers to the 2.6
kernels as being proided by gentoo-dev-sources...

udev is meant to be used in combination with a 2.6 kernel (like
development-sources or gentoo-dev-sources).

I thought for 2005.0 that was changed to the main gentoo-sources kernel
ebuild... Should I file this as a bug?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest

2005-04-06 Thread Eric S. Johansson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:45:21 -0700 Robert Persson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| But what's wrong with tools to make things easier if they don't impair
| the  performance of the system?  Why not have a nice simple
| X-configurator that  does the job of the SuSE or mandrake equivalents?
Get coding :)
with broken hands like mine and using speech recognition like
NaturallySpeaking?  snort
love your sense of humor cruel as it may be.
| For the most part, Gentoo is very straightforward to set up if you
| have the  patience to follow the howtos step-by-step.  However some
| things can still be  damned hard, configuring X being one of them. 
| Why not be more open to  solutions to these problems?

They're not large enough problems that they're worth spending huge
amounts of time on.
yes they aren't complicated problems.  but they are huge time wasters.
If an install takes you a few hours every time you install, those are a
few hours you'll never ever have back again.  Those are hours you could
have used doing something else or even having a life.  I think I
probably spend a good third of my career doing things by hand that could
have been automated if only we thought they were worth spending time on.
 But no, it was always we're not going to do it that many times or
it's easy, just suck it up.
this is another aspect of usability and user interface design.
Understanding how much of your life is sucked away by simple tasks that
could have been automated.
as I said to many a person,
the first time you install gentoo, it is amazing,
the second time you install gentoo, it is empowering,
the third time you install gentoo, it is wearying
another example of this is updates.  I know people have pissed and
moaned about how you must run all updates by hand to make sure
everything goes perfectly well.  And I can agree...for the first
machine.  But if you do the same process manually on two machines, you
can cope but when you get to seven or eight machines, it is miserable.
I have a customer with 15 machines and the thought of updating all of
those on a monthly basis[1] is frightening.  This process must be
automated otherwise, you can't use gentoo in widespread deployments.
another place for process improvements could be made is updating the
configuration files[2].  If the installation process or at least the
configuration file update process could create a patch file between the
original baseline configuration file (i.e. the one belonging to the
current install package) then apply the patch file to the configuration
file, we wouldn't need to work so hard.  If the patch doesn't work
right, store all the information in the configuration file and tell the
user.  When automated things break, it's OK to scream for human but at
least try to automate because it will work right most of the time.
[1]I just went through an updated to machines (three months and nine
months since last update) and it broke both machines seriously.  On the
other hand frequent updates seem to have minimal breakage
[2] it sucks not being able to write much code but if somebody wants to
be my coding fingers, we can figure out what needs to be done.
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[gentoo-user] think i killed my gentoo box

2005-04-06 Thread Nick Smith
sorry i havent been keeping up with the list as much as i should
so i dont know if this has been addressed or not.

i recently did an emerge -uD on my gentoo laptop, its been
several months since this has been done, it said that sysvinit
was blocking something from being installed, so i thought to
myself that the emerge would either install a new copy or it was
being replaced my another package, so i unmerged it to continue
with my emerge.  well everything went great until i rebooted,
now all i get is a sh# prompt when it boots and when i try to
edit anything it says i only have a read only file system and i
cant change anything.  is my system totally hosed? or is there a
way to recover from this? i would hope i dont have to reinstall
from scratch it took me a while to get this laptop going.

thanks for any and all help

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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI X configuration (Was: Duplicate posts from ...)

2005-04-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi,

for me xf86cfg, xf86config were always able to set up a sane config file. I 
needed to clean it up and corrected some things to make it 'better' but the 
basic version always worked 

so, I am satisfied with the tools, xog/xf86 is delivering for that task
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Re: [gentoo-user] Performance problem (slow hard drive?)

2005-04-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 04:03, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 17:35 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
   I also experimented
  a little bit with swsusp (without much success),

 try suspend2 then.. 15 secs from running to hibernate

thanks, swsusp also shut down my box in less than 30 sec, but was never able 
to recover it. So .. I stoped experimenting and do clean boots ... at least 
hw-faults are showing up fast this way.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 06:27, Martoni wrote:
 What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)?


the gimp, it kills harddisk space, cpu cycles, and the nerves of the person 
trying to use it. A real killer. 

If you mean 'killer app' in a positive sense, I would vote for .. hmm kate? 
kpdf? vegastrike? Xemacs?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bug in Gentoo udev guide?

2005-04-06 Thread Jason Cooper
David D. Rea ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 I noticed that the Gentoo udev Guide
 (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml) still refers to the 2.6
 kernels as being proided by gentoo-dev-sources...
 
 udev is meant to be used in combination with a 2.6 kernel (like
 development-sources or gentoo-dev-sources).
 
 I thought for 2005.0 that was changed to the main gentoo-sources kernel
 ebuild... Should I file this as a bug?

Done.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88155

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Re: [gentoo-user] ggi is low level library (lower then SDL)?

2005-04-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi,
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 10:22,   wrote:
 Being dumb again. I really know nothing about graphic libraries.

 I noticed many packages can be compiled with ggi or sdl USE flag, and
 libsdl can be compiled with ggi USE flag, but libggi cannot be compiled
 with sdl USE flag. Then I come to guess, since SDL can use GGI for
 rendering, GGI should be some lowever level graphic engine. Thus, if an
 application can be compiled to work with either ggi or sdl, then it should
 be faster using ggi.

 I am using ultra-sparc U2 with a very normal video card, what should I
 choose if an application (game or video player) support both SDL and GGI?
 And should I compile libsdl with ggi USE flag?

you are comparing apples with peas ;o)

ggi is a lowlevel graphics system, to replace X or svgalib.

SDL is an abstraction for ogl/X/svgalib/directX and a lot of other stuff.

And SDL is A GOOD THING, because sdl-apps are very portable and do not care 
much, what graphics-subsys is used, as long as it is supported by sdl ;)

And what is faster? I do not know, but with SDL you are able to choose the 
best supported/the fastesd mode that you need at the moment.

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Re: [gentoo-user] think i killed my gentoo box

2005-04-06 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Nick Smith wrote:
sorry i havent been keeping up with the list as much as i should
so i dont know if this has been addressed or not.
i recently did an emerge -uD on my gentoo laptop, its been
several months since this has been done, it said that sysvinit
was blocking something from being installed, so i thought to
myself that the emerge would either install a new copy or it was
being replaced my another package, so i unmerged it to continue
with my emerge.  well everything went great until i rebooted,
now all i get is a sh# prompt when it boots and when i try to
edit anything it says i only have a read only file system and i
cant change anything.  is my system totally hosed? or is there a
way to recover from this? i would hope i dont have to reinstall
from scratch it took me a while to get this laptop going.
thanks for any and all help
Nick

you can try:
#mount -oremount,ro /
#etc-update
#reboot
be carefully with etc-update (or dispatch-conf)
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Re: [gentoo-user] think i killed my gentoo box

2005-04-06 Thread James Hiscock
 you can try:
 
 #mount -oremount,ro /

ummm... shouldn't that be rw, not ro?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest

2005-04-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 09:03:03 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote:

 the first time you install gentoo, it is amazing,
 the second time you install gentoo, it is empowering,
 the third time you install gentoo, it is wearying

There was mention of an automated installer in GWN some months back,
followed by a lively discussion on this list. It appeared to be aimed at
the same usage as Red Hat's Kickstart system, install once and repeat on
other boxes, rather than a touchy-feely pointy-clicky GUI.

There are some third party projects that aim to ease the installation
process, like http://freshmeat.net/projects/gis/


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Re: [gentoo-user] think i killed my gentoo box

2005-04-06 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
James Hiscock wrote:
you can try:
#mount -oremount,ro /

ummm... shouldn't that be rw, not ro?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

2005-04-06 Thread Covington, Chris
ps - and ut2004 ;) 


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Re: [gentoo-user] ggi is low level library (lower then SDL)?

2005-04-06 Thread Aurélien Reynaud
Le mercredi 06 avril 2005  15:26 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann a crit :
 ggi is a lowlevel graphics system, to replace X or svgalib.
 
 SDL is an abstraction for ogl/X/svgalib/directX and a lot of other stuff.


Not quite.

GGI is an abstraction as well. You can run ggi apps over X, framebuffer,
directX, Aqua, across multiple displays or over the network. It is much
more flexible than SDL with respect to universality. But it is only an
abstraction for graphics and input.

SDL aims more at portable games. So it offers abstractions for network
communications, sound, etc... In this regard it is much like a
cross-platform directX.

SDL can use GGI for its graphics, but has to rely on other interfaces
for sound or network.

GGI could very well use the graphics part of SDL to do its rendering.
They probably just need someone to write the corresponding target...


mode imagination on
You could for example use an SDL game over X, with the X server using a
ggi driver instead of direct hardware (it is called XGGI). GGI in turn
could be using its framebuffer target... I am not talking about speed
here!
mode imagination off


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...

2005-04-06 Thread Digby Tarvin
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 08:33:59AM -0400, James Hiscock wrote:
  Anyway, at least I now know to stop looking. I guess I either change the
  source or roll back to an older version.
  
  Or does anyone know of any interesting alternatives to XDM and KDM that
  I should look at?
 
 gdm? entrance?

Thanks - I'll take a look before I resort to hacking the source of KDM.

I see 'entrance' is currently masked. The default 3D theme looks pretty
impressive cosmetically - but does it have any important functional
differences to make it worth looking at. Likewise for GDM?

Thinking about it, if I wanted to unclutter the login greeter, I would
get rid of the Go/Login button and the clear buttons which I have
never needed - after all, I have to use the keyboard to enter my
password, so when is reaching for a mouse going to be easier than
just pressing return???

I could probably also do away with the shutdown option as well, just
by adding a 'shutdown' and 'reboot' user - so I can password protect
the options if I want without any obscure display manager configuration
settings.

So all I want is 'login name' and 'password' entry boxes and the
'session type' menu that was taken away

I suppose I would have to join the KDE list to figure out what people
were thinking here. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...

2005-04-06 Thread James Hiscock
 So all I want is 'login name' and 'password' entry boxes and the
 'session type' menu that was taken away

GDM's got just that - with a couple more options (configuration,
shutdown menu) -- and it's heavily theme-able, so you can probably
find something appropriate for you in the gdm-themes package.
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[gentoo-user] changing permissions on a usb scanner device with 2.6 kernel

2005-04-06 Thread Claus Ladekjær Wilson
Only root can use my hp 5200 scanner. I don't use hotplug and I read about the 
usb-scanner script which I cannot find on my computer.
Is there a command like
chmod 666 usb-scanner-device?
My kernel is 2.6.7 and my device is
hp:libusb:001:003
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Re: [gentoo-user] Horizontal lines

2005-04-06 Thread Bill Six
I think you're right.  Thanks for your help.

Bill
--- Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ugh... you most likely have a hardware issue. 
 
 Why? The screen capture you sent to the list
 displays perfectly,
 which means that X is rendering correctly. The
 problem is then most
 likely your video card: my friend fried his video
 card once, and
 any object on the screen creates a horizontal shadow
 all the way
 across. 
 
 First: get another monitor and see if the problem
 persists. 
 
 Second: if the monitor is fine, get another video
 card and see if the
problem persists. 
 
 W
 
 On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 06:45:47PM -0700, maxim
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  Didn't see anything wrong. Maybe you need a
 monitor
  like mine ;-)
  
   However, after the screensaver came on once, I
 get
   these weird horizontal lines across the screen
  
  
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] think i killed my gentoo box

2005-04-06 Thread John Myers
On Wed, April 6, 2005 7:07 am, Bastian Balthazar Bux said:
 James Hiscock wrote:
you can try:

#mount -oremount,ro /


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 yes :P

I don't think that (by itself) is going to help anything. The OP umerged
sysvinit. That means he's missing a pretty important file: /sbin/init.
When it can't find /sbin/init, the kernel tries /etc/init, /bin/init, and
finally /bin/sh (so that recovery can be attempted). This is what
happened. Fortunately, this shouldn't be too hard to fix.

# /bin/mount -oremount,rw /
# /bin/mount -a
# . /etc/profile
# emerge sysvinit

should work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] pernicious printer problem

2005-04-06 Thread Lucien Dunning
Think this is ur problem. 
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-301503.html


On Apr 6, 2005 2:06 AM, Michael Ulm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lucien Dunning wrote:
  I know in the CUPS guide it suggests to push data right to /dev/lp0 (
  echo bla bla bla  /dev/lp0), did u try this?  I know my printer at
  one point would print what I echoed to it, but not through cups.
  However don't ask me how I fixed it, I don't remember, and I'm not
  sure if I ever did.  CUPS has never cooperated with my computer.
 
  if echo to lp0 works then its probably cups,  and if it doesn't then
  something else.
 
 No reaction from the printer to  cat foo.txt  /dev/lp0. I also tried
 appending a ^L without success. This would suggest a problem with
 /dev/lp0, which is unfortunate, since I have no idea how to diagnose
 this (unlike CUPS, which has a nice logfile).
 
 I'll check the cable and pins with a multimeter, but otherwise I'm
 stymied.
 
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[gentoo-user] Java eats my memory [was: Performance problem (slow hard drive?)]

2005-04-06 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
So it seems I have finally found the reason why my machine slows
down... should I be worried of this? :

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES SWAP  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
17023 jgonzale  15   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S 28.0 16.3   0:03.81 java
17022 jgonzale  15   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S 26.9 16.3   0:03.06 java
17015 jgonzale  18   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m R 17.0 16.3   0:02.90 java
17017 jgonzale  16   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S  3.3 16.3   0:00.23 java

It seems Java takes 1,5Gb of memory!!! Am I right? I have tested doing
the same actions in the computer of a fellow developer, and it only
gets around 300Mb. I've tried changing the parameters of the Java VM
in Maven using the MAVEN_OPTS environment variable with no success.
Anyway this seems to be a system wide problem, as Eclipse takes the
same amount of memory. Is there any way I can change this? Is this a
problem related to AMD64? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance, best regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...

2005-04-06 Thread Digby Tarvin
GDM it is then. I have just emerge'd it - now to give it a try..
I certanly don't want to re-invent the wheel if an existing dm
will do what I want..

Fingers crossed...

Regards,
DigbyT

P.S. I forgot to mention - I quite like the analogue clock on the
XDM greeter, so I am hoping GDM will have something similar..

On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 11:22:26AM -0400, James Hiscock wrote:
  So all I want is 'login name' and 'password' entry boxes and the
  'session type' menu that was taken away
 
 GDM's got just that - with a couple more options (configuration,
 shutdown menu) -- and it's heavily theme-able, so you can probably
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Re: [gentoo-user] Java eats my memory [was: Performance problem (slow hard drive?)]

2005-04-06 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:

 So it seems I have finally found the reason why my machine slows
 down... should I be worried of this? :

   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES SWAP  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
 17023 jgonzale  15   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S 28.0 16.3   0:03.81 java
 17022 jgonzale  15   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S 26.9 16.3   0:03.06 java
 17015 jgonzale  18   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m R 17.0 16.3   0:02.90 java
 17017 jgonzale  16   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S  3.3 16.3   0:00.23 java

 It seems Java takes 1,5Gb of memory!!! Am I right?

Isn't that virtual memory ?

The resident size is 80Mb no?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ggi is low level library (lower then SDL)?

2005-04-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 06 April 2005 16:38, Aurlien Reynaud wrote:
 Le mercredi 06 avril 2005  15:26 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann a crit :
  ggi is a lowlevel graphics system, to replace X or svgalib.
 
  SDL is an abstraction for ogl/X/svgalib/directX and a lot of other stuff.

 Not quite.

 GGI is an abstraction as well. You can run ggi apps over X, framebuffer,
 directX, Aqua, across multiple displays or over the network. It is much
 more flexible than SDL with respect to universality. But it is only an
 abstraction for graphics and input.


you are correct, I were not, thank you.

I just visited their hp (god was that a long time) and found some interessting 
stuff, but were do they hide the supported grakas *cough*

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java eats my memory [was: Performance problem (slow hard drive?)]

2005-04-06 Thread Ivan Yosifov
Are you running the server vm ?

On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 18:46 +0200, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
 So it seems I have finally found the reason why my machine slows
 down... should I be worried of this? :
 
   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES SWAP  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
 17023 jgonzale  15   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S 28.0 16.3   0:03.81 java
 17022 jgonzale  15   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S 26.9 16.3   0:03.06 java
 17015 jgonzale  18   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m R 17.0 16.3   0:02.90 java
 17017 jgonzale  16   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S  3.3 16.3   0:00.23 java
 
 It seems Java takes 1,5Gb of memory!!! Am I right? I have tested doing
 the same actions in the computer of a fellow developer, and it only
 gets around 300Mb. I've tried changing the parameters of the Java VM
 in Maven using the MAVEN_OPTS environment variable with no success.
 Anyway this seems to be a system wide problem, as Eclipse takes the
 same amount of memory. Is there any way I can change this? Is this a
 problem related to AMD64? Any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance, best regards
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[gentoo-user] emerge uD world : gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed!

2005-04-06 Thread Bradley Serbu
When doing my first emerge uD world after a fresh 2005.0 install. I 
recived the following error, has anyone experieced the same, or know of 
a fix?

FYI: I'm not using the ~x86 keyword on this box so this error is from 
the latest stable tree.

- Brad
make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 84, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge uD world : gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed!

2005-04-06 Thread Jason Cooper
Bradley Serbu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1
 make[4]: Leaving directory 
 `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
 make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory 
 `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
 make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
 make[2]: Leaving directory 
 `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 
 !!! ERROR: x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed.
 !!! Function src_compile, Line 84, Exitcode 2
 !!! (no error message)
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
 message.

Need about 20 more lines above what you got.  make is just relaying an
error message from somewhere...

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge uD world : gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed!

2005-04-06 Thread Bradley Serbu
Ok, looks like the no such directory at the bottom, but I included a 
bunch more incase I'm missing something else...


/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 
-pipe -Wall   -o libpixbufloader-xpm.la -rpath 
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders -avoid-version -module  io-xpm.lo 
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lm
libtool: link: warning: 
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libgmodule-2.0.la' 
seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning: 
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libgobject-2.0.la' 
seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning: 
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libglib-2.0.la' 
seems to be moved
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -shared  .libs/io-xpm.o  -Wl,--rpath 
-Wl,/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf/.libs 
-L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../../ 
./.libs/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so -ldl 
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so -lm  -mcpu=i686 
-Wl,-soname -Wl,libpixbufloader-xpm.so -o .libs/libpixbufloader-xpm.so
creating libpixbufloader-xpm.la
(cd .libs  rm -f libpixbufloader-xpm.la  ln -s 
../libpixbufloader-xpm.la libpixbufloader-xpm.la)
if /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GdkPixbuf\ -I.. -I.. 
-I../gdk-pixbuf -I../gdk-pixbuf -DGTK_SYSCONFDIR=\/etc\ 
-DGTK_VERSION=\2.6.4\ -DGTK_BINARY_VERSION=\2.4.0\ 
-DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGTK_PREFIX=\/usr\  -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -pthread 
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include 
-I/usr/include/libpng12-DGDK_PIXBUF_ENABLE_BACKEND 
-DPIXBUF_LIBDIR=\/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders\ 
-DBUILT_MODULES_DIR=\./.libs\   -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wall -MT 
io-tiff.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/io-tiff.Tpo \
 -c -o io-tiff.lo `test -f 'io-tiff.c' || echo './'`io-tiff.c; \
then mv -f .deps/io-tiff.Tpo .deps/io-tiff.Plo; \
else rm -f .deps/io-tiff.Tpo; exit 1; \
fi
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. 
-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GdkPixbuf\ -I.. -I.. -I../gdk-pixbuf -I../gdk-pixbuf 
-DGTK_SYSCONFDIR=\/etc\ -DGTK_VERSION=\2.6.4\ 
-DGTK_BINARY_VERSION=\2.4.0\ -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_PREFIX=\/usr\ 
-DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libpng12 
-DGDK_PIXBUF_ENABLE_BACKEND 
-DPIXBUF_LIBDIR=\/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders\ 
-DBUILT_MODULES_DIR=\./.libs\ -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wall -MT 
io-tiff.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/io-tiff.Tpo -c io-tiff.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o 
.libs/io-tiff.o
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686 
-pipe -Wall   -o libpixbufloader-tiff.la -rpath 
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders -avoid-version -module  io-tiff.lo -ltiff 
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lm
grep: //usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such 
file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read 
//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file or 
directory
libtool: link: `//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la' 
is not a valid libtool archive


Jason Cooper wrote:
Bradley Serbu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
 

make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 84, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.
   

Need about 20 more lines above what you got.  make is just relaying an
error message from somewhere...
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[gentoo-user] IRQ problem with USB camera

2005-04-06 Thread Grant
I used to be able to connect my USB camera to my Gentoo system, but I
haven't tried it in a while and now when I try it I get this from
dmesg:

ohci_hcd: Unlink after no IRQ?  Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ.

I've tried enabling all of the IRQ options in the kernel to no avail. 
Does anyone have any idea how this can be fixed?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] system with no network needs updates

2005-04-06 Thread Grant
  PS and I dont see how the line in the wiki could have worked well
  unless
  emerge -fp used to have different behavior.
 
 
  Thanks a lot Eugene, that second line worked great.  Let me know if I
  should update the wiki:
 
  gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Gentoo_for_dialup_users
 
 
  Yes, you should.
 
  Stroller.
 
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 I agree, thats the whole purpose of the wiki.

Should I update the wiki to include this whole line:

cat links.txt | sort | uniq | xargs -n 1 -i{} sh -c 'for i in {}; do
wget -c $i  break; done'

instead of the current one:

wget -i links.txt

It seems like I'm bloating it, but let me know.

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Gentoo_for_dialup_users

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge uD world : gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed!

2005-04-06 Thread Scott Jones
On Apr 6, 2005 12:40 PM, Bradley Serbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ok, looks like the no such directory at the bottom, but I included abunch more incase I'm missing something else.../bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc-O2 -mcpu=i686-pipe -Wall -o libpixbufloader-xpm.la -rpath/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders -avoid-version -moduleio-xpm.lolibgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lmlibtool: link: warning:`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libgmodule-2.0.la'seems to be movedlibtool: link: warning:`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libgobject-2.0.la'seems to be movedlibtool: link: warning:`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libglib-2.0.la'seems to be movedi686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -shared.libs/io-xpm.o-Wl,--rpath-Wl,/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf/.libs-L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../.././.libs/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so -ldl/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so -lm-mcpu=i686-Wl,-soname -Wl,libpixbufloader-xpm.so -o .libs/libpixbufloader-xpm.socreating libpixbufloader-xpm.la(cd .libs  rm -f libpixbufloader-xpm.la  ln -s../libpixbufloader-xpm.la libpixbufloader-xpm.la)if /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GdkPixbuf\ -I.. -I..-I../gdk-pixbuf -I../gdk-pixbuf -DGTK_SYSCONFDIR=\/etc\-DGTK_VERSION=\2.6.4\ -DGTK_BINARY_VERSION=\2.4.0\-DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED-DGTK_PREFIX=\/usr\-DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -pthread-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include-I/usr/include/libpng12-DGDK_PIXBUF_ENABLE_BACKEND-DPIXBUF_LIBDIR=\/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders\-DBUILT_MODULES_DIR=\./.libs\ -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wall -MTio-tiff.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/io-tiff.Tpo \-c -o io-tiff.lo `test -f 'io-tiff.c' || echo './'`io-tiff.c; \then mv -f .deps/io-tiff.Tpo .deps/io-tiff.Plo; \else rm -f .deps/io-tiff.Tpo; exit 1; \fi i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GdkPixbuf\ -I.. -I.. -I../gdk-pixbuf -I../gdk-pixbuf-DGTK_SYSCONFDIR=\/etc\ -DGTK_VERSION=\2.6.4\-DGTK_BINARY_VERSION=\2.4.0\ -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED-DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_PREFIX=\/usr\-DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libpng12-DGDK_PIXBUF_ENABLE_BACKEND-DPIXBUF_LIBDIR=\/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders\-DBUILT_MODULES_DIR=\./.libs\ -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wall -MTio-tiff.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/io-tiff.Tpo -c io-tiff.c-fPIC -DPIC -o.libs/io-tiff.o/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc-O2 -mcpu=i686-pipe -Wall -o libpixbufloader-tiff.la -rpath/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders -avoid-version -moduleio-tiff.lo -ltifflibgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lmgrep: //usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No suchfile or directory/bin/sed: can't read//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file ordirectorylibtool: link: `//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la'is not a valid libtool archiveJason Cooper wrote:Bradley Serbu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1make[4]: Leaving directory`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1make[3]: Leaving directory`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'make[2]: *** [all] Error 2make[2]: Leaving directory`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4'make: *** [all] Error 2!!! ERROR: x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed.!!! Function src_compile, Line 84, Exitcode 2!!! (no error message)!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this statusmessage.Need about 20 more lines above what you got.make is just relaying anerror message from somewhere...Cooper.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listBradely,

Before you go any further try running fix_libtool_files.sh. I
think this probably will fix your problem. Run the script without
any arguments for instructions on its use.

Scott Jones

p.s. This is a very common problem, so may I recommend a search
focusing on the not a valid libtool archive part of the error message

Re: [gentoo-user] Java eats my memory [was: Performance problem (slow hard drive?)]

2005-04-06 Thread Richard Fish
A. Khattri wrote:

On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
  

It seems Java takes 1,5Gb of memory!!! Am I right?


Seems to be right.  Wow.  Even VMWare running XP on my system only
consumes 350MB of memory!!

Isn't that virtual memory ?

The resident size is 80Mb no?
  


Virtual memory = resident + swap.

man top.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge uD world : gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed!

2005-04-06 Thread Christoph Gysin
Bradley Serbu wrote:
 Ok, looks like the no such directory at the bottom, but I included a
 bunch more incase I'm missing something else...
 
 grep: //usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such
 file or directory
 /bin/sed: can't read
 //usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file or
 directory
 libtool: link: `//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la'
 is not a valid libtool archive

The bug was an incorrect gcc version check in an eclass. The following
line should solve your problem.

$ fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5

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Re: [gentoo-user] Java eats my memory [was: Performance problem (slow hard drive?)]

2005-04-06 Thread Robert G. Hays
Also re swap-size: how big is your swap partition?
rgh.
Ivan Yosifov wrote:
Are you running the server vm ?
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 18:46 +0200, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
 

So it seems I have finally found the reason why my machine slows
down... should I be worried of this? :
 PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES SWAP  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
17023 jgonzale  15   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S 28.0 16.3   0:03.81 java
17022 jgonzale  15   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S 26.9 16.3   0:03.06 java
17015 jgonzale  18   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m R 17.0 16.3   0:02.90 java
17017 jgonzale  16   0 1522m  80m 1.4g  87m S  3.3 16.3   0:00.23 java
It seems Java takes 1,5Gb of memory!!! Am I right? I have tested doing
the same actions in the computer of a fellow developer, and it only
gets around 300Mb. I've tried changing the parameters of the Java VM
in Maven using the MAVEN_OPTS environment variable with no success.
Anyway this seems to be a system wide problem, as Eclipse takes the
same amount of memory. Is there any way I can change this? Is this a
problem related to AMD64? Any ideas?
Thanks in advance, best regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] changing permissions on a usb scanner device with 2.6 kernel

2005-04-06 Thread Richard Fish


Claus Ladekjær Wilson wrote:

Only root can use my hp 5200 scanner. I don't use hotplug and I read about the 
usb-scanner script which I cannot find on my computer.
Is there a command like
chmod 666 usb-scanner-device?
My kernel is 2.6.7 and my device is
hp:libusb:001:003
  


Try adding other users to the 'scanner' group.  At least, that's what
works for me.

man sane
man sane-usb




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[gentoo-user] Portage downgrading question

2005-04-06 Thread David D. Rea
Hi All-

I needed to fill out a PDF form today, so I figured I'd try the new Adobe
Acrobat Reader 7. I did the following:

`ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv acroread`

And subsequently emerged the package without the -pv. All went well, and
acroread seems to work happily enough on my box. I'm impressed with the
software, I just wish it was open-source.

So now I'd like to do an `emerge -pvuD world` to clear up a few GLSAs that
have come across in the last few days. Alas, this is among the output:

[ebuild UD] app-text/acroread-5.10 [7.0] -cjk -noplugin 9,068 kB

`man emerge` explains well enough why it's trying to downgrade acroread.
The only place I can find some semblance of a recommendation to prevent
this behavior is here:

http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/gentoo_portage.html

Where the author suggests modifying /var/lib/portage/world so that the
package reads:

=app-text/acroread-7.0

But doing this doesn't change emerge's behavior when doing an `emerge
-pvuD world`. It still tries to downgrade acroread.

???

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage downgrading question

2005-04-06 Thread Scott Jones
On Apr 6, 2005 1:12 PM, David D. Rea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi All-I needed to fill out a PDF form today, so I figured I'd try the new AdobeAcrobat Reader 7. I did the following:`ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv acroread`And subsequently emerged the package without the -pv. All went well, andacroread seems to work happily enough on my box. I'm impressed with thesoftware, I just wish it was open-source.So now I'd like to do an `emerge -pvuD world` to clear up a few GLSAs thathave come across in the last few days. Alas, this is among the output:[ebuild UD] app-text/acroread-5.10 [7.0] -cjk -noplugin 9,068 kB`man emerge` explains well enough why it's trying to downgrade acroread.The only place I can find some semblance of a recommendation to preventthis behavior is here:http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/gentoo_portage.htmlWhere the author suggests modifying /var/lib/portage/world so that thepackage reads:=app-text/acroread-7.0But doing this doesn't change emerge's behavior when doing an `emerge-pvuD world`. It still tries to downgrade acroread.???Thanks,Dave--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listDave,

I believe that

echo =app-text/acroread-7.0 ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords

will fix your problem. Basically you put programs you want to
have masked ~x86 in the file package.keywords in the directory
/etc/portage

Scott Jones


Re: [gentoo-user] Portage downgrading question

2005-04-06 Thread Steingrim Dovland
* David D. Rea
 The only place I can find some semblance of a recommendation to prevent
 this behavior is here:
 
 http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/gentoo_portage.html

Read the section on Portage in the Gentoo Handbook and the portage
man-page. The handbook section that deals with this is here:

  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=3

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Re: [gentoo-user] Stop The Duplicate Post Whining Please

2005-04-06 Thread Robert G. Hays
blush Naaah,Robert  fire-eyes are right, Eric, we shouldda changed 
the title in there somwhere /blush

(  :|  But you're probably right too!; it's just that the name-change 
was most likely the correct thing to do.  *Sigh.* )

 I'll jump right back outta this thread before it gets to be another 
hairy monster.

rgh.
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
Robert Persson wrote:
On April 5, 2005 05:12 pm, quoth fire-eyes:
I get home and more than half the posts are people complaining about 
the
dupe posts.

I know it must have looked a bit depressing at first sight, but if 
you read some of the later posts you would have found that the thread 
had quickly gone completely off-topic, including an interesting 
discussion about user interface design.  I think the problem is less 
about whining and more about knowing when to change the title of a 
thread. 

then someone would bitch about thread theft or some such rot... ;-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge uD world : gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed!

2005-04-06 Thread Bradley Serbu
Thanks Guys,
I'm giving it a shot now... but when you say focus your search on a 
certain error message, where are you talking about searching.

Google?  The forums?  List Archives (I don't have a site for this)?
I've ran into ebuild problems before and just waited for a couple more 
releases or didn't upgrade, however I'd like to be more knowledgeable in 
order at least find out whats causing the problem.

- Brad
Scott Jones wrote:

On Apr 6, 2005 12:40 PM, *Bradley Serbu* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ok, looks like the no such directory at the bottom, but I included a
bunch more incase I'm missing something else...
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686
-pipe -Wall   -o libpixbufloader-xpm.la -rpath
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders -avoid-version -module  io-xpm.lo
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la http://2.0.la -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl
-lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lm
libtool: link: warning:
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libgmodule-2.0.la
http://2.0.la'
seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning:
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libgobject-2.0.la
http://2.0.la'
seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning:
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libglib-2.0.la
http://2.0.la'
seems to be moved
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -shared  .libs/io-xpm.o  -Wl,--rpath
-Wl,/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf/.libs
-L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../../
./.libs/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so http://2.0.so
/usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so http://2.0.so -ldl
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so http://2.0.so /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so
http://2.0.so -lm  -mcpu=i686
-Wl,-soname -Wl,libpixbufloader-xpm.so -o .libs/libpixbufloader-xpm.so
creating libpixbufloader-xpm.la
(cd .libs  rm -f libpixbufloader-xpm.la  ln -s
../libpixbufloader-xpm.la libpixbufloader-xpm.la)
if /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GdkPixbuf\ -I.. -I..
-I../gdk-pixbuf -I../gdk-pixbuf -DGTK_SYSCONFDIR=\/etc\
-DGTK_VERSION=\2.6.4\ -DGTK_BINARY_VERSION=\2.4.0\
-DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGTK_PREFIX=\/usr\  -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -pthread
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/libpng12-DGDK_PIXBUF_ENABLE_BACKEND
-DPIXBUF_LIBDIR=\/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders\
-DBUILT_MODULES_DIR=\./.libs\   -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wall -MT
io-tiff.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/io-tiff.Tpo \
  -c -o io-tiff.lo `test -f 'io-tiff.c' || echo './'`io-tiff.c; \
then mv -f .deps/io-tiff.Tpo .deps/io-tiff.Plo; \
else rm -f .deps/io-tiff.Tpo; exit 1; \
fi
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..
-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GdkPixbuf\ -I.. -I.. -I../gdk-pixbuf -I../gdk-pixbuf
-DGTK_SYSCONFDIR=\/etc\ -DGTK_VERSION=\2.6.4\
-DGTK_BINARY_VERSION=\2.4.0\ -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_PREFIX=\/usr\
-DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libpng12
-DGDK_PIXBUF_ENABLE_BACKEND
-DPIXBUF_LIBDIR=\/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders\
-DBUILT_MODULES_DIR=\./.libs\ -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wall -MT
io-tiff.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/io-tiff.Tpo -c io-tiff.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o
.libs/io-tiff.o
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686
-pipe -Wall   -o libpixbufloader-tiff.la -rpath
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders -avoid-version -module  io-tiff.lo
-ltiff
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la http://2.0.la -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl
-lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lm
grep: //usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such
file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such
file or
directory
libtool: link:
`//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la'
is not a valid libtool archive
Jason Cooper wrote:
Bradley Serbu ([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
scribbled:


make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 84, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this
status
message.




Re: [gentoo-user] Portage downgrading question

2005-04-06 Thread Willie Wong
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=3

or, simply

# echo '=app-text/acroread-7.0 ~x86'  /etc/package.keywords

W

On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 01:12:12PM -0500, David D. Rea wrote:
 Hi All-
 
 I needed to fill out a PDF form today, so I figured I'd try the new Adobe
 Acrobat Reader 7. I did the following:
 
 `ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -pv acroread`
 
 And subsequently emerged the package without the -pv. All went well, and
 acroread seems to work happily enough on my box. I'm impressed with the
 software, I just wish it was open-source.
 
 So now I'd like to do an `emerge -pvuD world` to clear up a few GLSAs that
 have come across in the last few days. Alas, this is among the output:
 
 [ebuild UD] app-text/acroread-5.10 [7.0] -cjk -noplugin 9,068 kB
 
 `man emerge` explains well enough why it's trying to downgrade acroread.
 The only place I can find some semblance of a recommendation to prevent
 this behavior is here:
 
 http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/gentoo_portage.html
 
 Where the author suggests modifying /var/lib/portage/world so that the
 package reads:
 
 =app-text/acroread-7.0
 
 But doing this doesn't change emerge's behavior when doing an `emerge
 -pvuD world`. It still tries to downgrade acroread.
 
 ???
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge uD world : gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed!

2005-04-06 Thread Bradley Serbu
brads $ sudo fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5
* Scanning libtool files for hardcoded gcc library paths...
Tried this and the command ran successfully, but didn't fix the error.
- Brad
Christoph Gysin wrote:
Bradley Serbu wrote:
 

Ok, looks like the no such directory at the bottom, but I included a
bunch more incase I'm missing something else...
grep: //usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such
file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file or
directory
libtool: link: `//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la'
is not a valid libtool archive
   

The bug was an incorrect gcc version check in an eclass. The following
line should solve your problem.
$ fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5
Christoph
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge uD world : gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed!

2005-04-06 Thread Scott Jones
On Apr 6, 2005 1:41 PM, Bradley Serbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:brads $ sudo fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5 * Scanning libtool files for hardcoded gcc library paths...Tried this and the command ran successfully, but didn't fix the error.- BradChristoph Gysin wrote:Bradley Serbu wrote:Ok, looks like the no such directory at the bottom, but I included abunch more incase I'm missing something else...grep: //usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No suchfile or directory/bin/sed: can't read//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such file ordirectorylibtool: link: `//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la'is not a valid libtool archiveThe bug was an incorrect gcc version check in an eclass. The followingline should solve your problem.$ fix_libtool_files.sh 3.3.5Christoph--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listBradley,

I always search the forums and bugzilla, but it is really all about
figuring out what to search for. I think if you recently upgraded
gcc, since you appear to running gcc 3.3.5 you may have to run
fix_libtool_files-sh 3.3.4. I have not had the problem you are
running into since I upgraded to 3.3.5. Anyways I hope this helps.

Scott Jones

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge uD world : gtk+-2.6.4-r1 failed!

2005-04-06 Thread Bradley Serbu
Didn't work...
Did you notice the //usr instead of /usr when search for the file/directory.
Could this be the problem.  I'm searching the bugzilla and not seeing 
any with //usr being fixed or reported.

The fix_lib_tools.sh seems to just fix the version.
- Brad
Bradley Serbu wrote:
Thanks Guys,
I'm giving it a shot now... but when you say focus your search on a 
certain error message, where are you talking about searching.

Google?  The forums?  List Archives (I don't have a site for this)?
I've ran into ebuild problems before and just waited for a couple more 
releases or didn't upgrade, however I'd like to be more knowledgeable 
in order at least find out whats causing the problem.

- Brad
Scott Jones wrote:

On Apr 6, 2005 12:40 PM, *Bradley Serbu* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ok, looks like the no such directory at the bottom, but I included a
bunch more incase I'm missing something else...
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686
-pipe -Wall   -o libpixbufloader-xpm.la -rpath
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders -avoid-version -module  io-xpm.lo
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la http://2.0.la -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl
-lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lm
libtool: link: warning:

`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libgmodule-2.0.la
http://2.0.la'
seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning:

`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libgobject-2.0.la
http://2.0.la'
seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning:
`/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../..//libglib-2.0.la
http://2.0.la'
seems to be moved
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -shared  .libs/io-xpm.o  -Wl,--rpath
-Wl,/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf/.libs
-L/usr/lib -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/../../../
./.libs/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so http://2.0.so
/usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so http://2.0.so -ldl
/usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so http://2.0.so /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so
http://2.0.so -lm  -mcpu=i686
-Wl,-soname -Wl,libpixbufloader-xpm.so -o 
.libs/libpixbufloader-xpm.so
creating libpixbufloader-xpm.la
(cd .libs  rm -f libpixbufloader-xpm.la  ln -s
../libpixbufloader-xpm.la libpixbufloader-xpm.la)
if /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GdkPixbuf\ -I.. -I..
-I../gdk-pixbuf -I../gdk-pixbuf -DGTK_SYSCONFDIR=\/etc\
-DGTK_VERSION=\2.6.4\ -DGTK_BINARY_VERSION=\2.4.0\
-DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGTK_PREFIX=\/usr\  -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -pthread
-I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include
-I/usr/include/libpng12-DGDK_PIXBUF_ENABLE_BACKEND
-DPIXBUF_LIBDIR=\/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders\
-DBUILT_MODULES_DIR=\./.libs\   -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wall -MT
io-tiff.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/io-tiff.Tpo \
  -c -o io-tiff.lo `test -f 'io-tiff.c' || echo './'`io-tiff.c; \
then mv -f .deps/io-tiff.Tpo .deps/io-tiff.Plo; \
else rm -f .deps/io-tiff.Tpo; exit 1; \
fi
i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I..
-DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\GdkPixbuf\ -I.. -I.. -I../gdk-pixbuf 
-I../gdk-pixbuf
-DGTK_SYSCONFDIR=\/etc\ -DGTK_VERSION=\2.6.4\
-DGTK_BINARY_VERSION=\2.4.0\ -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_PREFIX=\/usr\
-DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libpng12
-DGDK_PIXBUF_ENABLE_BACKEND
-DPIXBUF_LIBDIR=\/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders\
-DBUILT_MODULES_DIR=\./.libs\ -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe -Wall -MT
io-tiff.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/io-tiff.Tpo -c io-tiff.c  -fPIC 
-DPIC -o
.libs/io-tiff.o
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc  -O2 -mcpu=i686
-pipe -Wall   -o libpixbufloader-tiff.la -rpath
/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0/loaders -avoid-version -module  io-tiff.lo
-ltiff
libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.la http://2.0.la -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl
-lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lm
grep: //usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No 
such
file or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la: No such
file or
directory
libtool: link:
`//usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5/libstdc++.la'
is not a valid libtool archive

Jason Cooper wrote:
Bradley Serbu ([EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])
scribbled:


make[4]: *** [libpixbufloader-tiff.la] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/gtk+-2.6.4-r1/work/gtk+-2.6.4/gdk-pixbuf'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest

2005-04-06 Thread Robert G. Hays
OK, *thats* the focusing of the comment that I mentioned.  Had that been 
there in the first place, I wouldn't'a jumped.

Still no reason not to have nice tools though, for those making the 
transition...  could even 'waste'(not!) time telling un Gentoo-virgins 
whatinhell is actually being done, to help us learn.  And I just might 
attack creating that tool myself in a couple'a months when I get back 
caught up;  be a good way to get into Gentoo-specific programming... 
Anybody want to volunteer to help making it better  more complete by 
adding the stuff for hardware that I don't have access to?
Certainly at least I'll write a complete howto-type doco.

rgh.
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:22:52 -0400 Robert G. Hays
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| People don't *want* to learn computers (making the training that much 
| harder  slower), and, truthfully, they shouldn't *Need* to, beyond
| the  *Very* basics.

That might be the case if they're running Ubuntu or Linspire. This is
Gentoo. Our target userbase is people who have at least a fair idea of
what they're doing and have no objection to learning more.
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage downgrading question

2005-04-06 Thread David D. Rea
On Wed, April 6, 2005 1:32 pm, Scott Jones said:
 Dave,

 I believe that

 echo =app-text/acroread-7.0 ~x86  /etc/portage/package.keywords

 will fix your problem. Basically you put programs you want to have masked
 ~x86 in the file package.keywords in the directory /etc/portage

 Scott Jones

Thanks, Scott and others - this fixed the problem!

Best Regards,
Dave

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: reply prefix in evolution

2005-04-06 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Matan Peled --
 Possibly because e-mail clients that reply with AW: also break the
 headers in some strange way...

... but kmail has no problem sorting and threading those messages, so why 
can't evolution handle this? Any ideas for solving this issue, or do I 
have to live with it, if I want to use evolution?

-- 
I wish for a turkey sandwich on rye bread with lettuce and mustard.  And
-- and I don't want any zombie turkeys, I don't want to turn into a turkey
myself, and I don't want any other weird surprises -- you got it?

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 Treehouse of Horror II
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[gentoo-user] Problems with xine

2005-04-06 Thread Paul
Hi all,
I can't get xine to work, I have tried different dvds but none will work, 
however, they all play with kmplayer.
The following is the errors I am getting.  Can anybody help please?

This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.3.
(c) 2000-2004 The xine Team.
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading

I then tried it with the base device, still the same error.
This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.3.
(c) 2000-2004 The xine Team.
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 for reading
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 for reading

The devices /dev/dvd - /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 - /dev/hdc all have user paul and 
group cdrom   Is this correct, if not how do I change it?

Thanks for any help
Paul
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Re: [gentoo-user] GUI X configuration (Was: Duplicate posts from ...)

2005-04-06 Thread Robert G. Hays
Below...
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Hi,
for me xf86cfg, xf86config were always able to set up a sane config file. I 
needed to clean it up and corrected some things to make it 'better' but the 
basic version always worked 

so, I am satisfied with the tools, xog/xf86 is delivering for that task
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Yeah, I think that's that's where the #2 stuff belongs.
rgh.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from John Lowelljohnlowell@ameritech.net on the Digest

2005-04-06 Thread Robert G. Hays
Below...
Philip Webb wrote:
050405 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 

050405 Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

maybe one should stop blaming the user
and consider that X11 is crying for a good UI for configuration.
 

I hear Mandrake have quite a nice GUI configuration tool these days.
   

IIRC when i installed Gentoo in my newly-built box in 2003,
i used the X config file created by Mandrake from my 2000 box,
as i use the same monitor for both machines.
Gentoo is not for beginners, but it doesn't hurt to have good tools
 sometimes that includes a GUI interface, eg configuring Xscreensaver.
even Vim is easier to use in the Gvim version, at least for me.
there's no harm in being a fanatic, if you know when to stop (grin).
 

True all the way.
B.T.W.,  I have a 'spare' 5.5G part on my main drive -- Something like 
that could be a good place to keep that 'user-friendly'/grade-school 
linux for things like this, I think.

P.S., so you live in a motor-home, huh?  Cool sig.
rgh.
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Re: [gentoo-user] learning to write ebuilds, failed to login anonymously into cvs server

2005-04-06 Thread Robert G. Hays
Note if you're not used to V.C.S.'s :: you can get tings without 
*officially* checking them out.  There are instructions for the Gentoo 
version of this somewhere, I suppose.

rgh.
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:34:00 +0800 Zhang Weiwu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| | The first step is to checkout gentoo-x86 module,
| 
| You can't. Access to gentoo CVS is limited to developers.
| 
| It's ridiculous. It's being said, if I wish to be a developer, I need
| to  do something like porting a software into gentoo and write an
| ebuild and  get accepted, while in the 'writing ebuild' handbook it's
| said to write  ebuilds I first checkout current gentoo-x86, and you
| told me to checkout  gentoo-x86 I need to be a developer.
You don't need cvs access to write ebuilds, only to commit them. You can
write ebuilds and test them in overlay and then submit them via bugzilla
for review.
 

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[gentoo-user] Shared ftp directory?

2005-04-06 Thread fire-eyes
Hello,

I'm trying to come up with a way for two seperate users logging in via
FTP to have a location where they can share files back and forth.

That is to say, user A and user B would both be able to get to this,
write to it, delete files even if they were put there by the other user
etc.

The only thing I came up with so far (I was in a hurry) was creating a
seperate directory elsewhere, and having a symlink called shared in
each of the users home dirs pointing at this seperate directory.

The dir is owned by user A, and the group is set to that of B, and the
dir is mode 770.

This works out fine when I log in via ncftp, however when i use IE the
shared item isn't even listed.

I use proftpd for the ftp server, so I found the ShowSymlinks option and
set that. However it still doesn't show this symlink in either user A or
B's home dir, when using IE.

Proftpd has a setting to show dotfiles, but due to other uses of the ftp
server, that's just not acceptable.

So I'm looking for a better way to do this, any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Two users, two soundcards. How ?

2005-04-06 Thread Ivan Yosifov
Thanks for the help everyone. FYI, this is the reply I ( eventually )
got from alsa-user:
___

 A pc has two soundcards, and two users. I want one soundcard to be
 accessible ONLY to one of the users, the other - ONLY to the other 
 user.

The device files in /dev/snd/ with a C in their name are card-
specific (the digit following the C is the card number).

 Can this be done through .asoundrc ?

Probably not.  You could create user-specific .asoundrc files that
redefine the default device, but those wouldn't prevent the users from
accessing other cards directly.

HTH
Clemens
___

On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 21:34 -0700, Robert Persson wrote:
 If you use udev you will have a directory called /etc/udev/permissions.d 
 where 
 device permissions are determined at each boot.
 
 Robert
 
 On April 5, 2005 03:10 pm, quoth Christoph Eckert:
   Thanks for the info, but what are the files I need to
   chown/chmod ? I am using ALSA, no OSS emulation layer.
 
  phew, that's too much for me ;-) .
 
  This is concerning ALSA sequencer, and I'd recommend to join
  the ALSA user mailing list or the linux audio user
  mailinglist.
 
  AFAIK, asoundrc does not contain any section about user
  priviledges, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
 
   Best regards
 
 
  ce
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