RE: [gentoo-user] What do you like best on Gentoo?
> The minimal solution for me would be to take a Laptop with Gentoo > Installed, merge/unmerge some packages, fine. But IMO the most > distinguishing part of Gentoo is its install. Definately. The thing to show would be emerge and qpkg. Emerge rsync is a bit time-consuming, so I guess that won't work. But you can merge and unmerge a package, merge a specific (older) version, merge -u, etc. Of course, showing a full Gnome and/or KDE tells people that Gentoo is not a tiny console based distro, but the real thing. > What do you like best on Gentoo? What would you tell/show them? 1. Gentoo gives the power of LFS, but with a lot less hassle. Do an LFS once in your life, for educational purposes, and then switch to Gentoo to keep your sanity. 2. Gentoo has a great community. You could show your audience the Gentoo website, the mailing lists and the forums. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] sound and acpi
> I'm trying to make working the sound on my notebook. A kind > guy already > explained to me that I need acpi support and that can work > just using > 2.4.19 kernel (wrong patches for 2.4.20 aparently.) That one is new for me (that ACPI is required for sound). But, I do have a new laptop running ACPI (the patch from sourceforge) with kernel 2.4.21, and alsa-driver and alsa-utils installed. It works fine. I don't emerge my kernels, I just get what I want. You have to manually configure and build them anyway. BTW, did you unmute your soundcard channels? After each (re)install they are muted. Check with alsamixer: if you have "MM" at the top of the volume bar, they're muted! > I saw that there is a apci4linux USE option, should I use it in > compiling kernel? I guess you should set it before emerging a kernel; I suppose it will get the acpi patch, and apply it. Check the ebuild! When compiling the kernel that flag is not used. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] iptables and ftp connection
> i'm having trouble to get ftp working with my iptable settings. > I can connect login , but can't see files, then my > connection is beeing closed. if i stop iptables then > everything workfine. See: http://www.sns.ias.edu/~jns/security/iptables/iptables_conntrack.html Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] setting sound volume
> - my sound volume is very low when I try to listen some > music by xmms, > have you idea in how can fix that? What are you using? Alsa? If so, run alsamixer (from alsa-utils), and check the levels. > - According to you, is there any advantage to use alsa versus oss? > Could you list what should I emerge to have alsa woking? > I mean libs, plugins, etc? Alsa is the wave of the future. OSS is deprecated. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] the last two days
> Man I hope it's not the latter...although with your shifts > it probably > is...on a semi related note, does anyone have any information on > clustering with Gentoo? Clustering in what sense? Gentoo has many packages that support clustering in some way or another: cook, distcc, openldap (slapd/slurpd), jboss, etc. There is nothing Gentoo-specific about them as far as I know. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel choice and ACPI
> Can I update/patch acpi of gentoo-sources to some version > more current? I just upgraded to vanilla 2.4.21 + acpi patch (from sourceforge). I didn't use emerge to get the kernel or patch, just remerged my driver packages after building and rebooting the new kernel (alsa-driver, xfree-drm, etc.). Everything works just fine. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA CDROM in Sony PCG-Z505VR/K locks machine on insertion
> Hopefully this is just a interrupt, or I/O port issue Are you using ACPI? Some laptops have trouble with that. You can either get the latest acpi patch, or disable it altogether. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] CD Writer problems
> I just want to know if anyone has run into this problem in trying to > config a cd burner on gentoo. I have an ide LG DVD/CDRW > combo unit, and > I have built all the neccessary modules : IDE/ATAPI CDROM > support, SCSI > emulation support, SCSI CDROm support, SCSI generic support. Did you add something like hdc=ide-scsi to your kernel boot options? You need that to map the IDE CDRW to an emulated scsi device. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] CPU throttling
> > I read about autospeedstep, and installed it. It compiled well, > > and runs well, and /var/log/speedstep indicates that it changes > > betrwwn powersave and full power, but i don't quite trust it : > > speedstep has nothing to do with throttling. Speedstep changes the > cpu clock rate between two frequencies, throttling stops the cpu > for some time by stopping the clock signal at all. > So you may have to look at /proc/cpuinfo, I don't have a speedstep > capable processor, so I cannot check this. You can manually change the throttling with something like: echo 5 > /proc/acpi/x/throttle It works fine on my Asus L3800S (P4). If I want to get a good battery life, I dim the display, and set throttle to 5 or 6 (out of a range of 0..7, where 0=fast). I haven't measured the effect, but I think it extends battery life by 1/3 at least. The P4 in my Asus also does not have speedstep (according to the kernel, when I enabled speedstep in the kernel config). Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ssh/rsh setup
> I need to setup rsh. As a server, or as a client? Do you want to use rsh as part of another tool (rsync, cvs,...), or directly as a command-line tool? > Has rsh anything to do with ssh? They address similar needs. I'd go for ssh. It's more secure alternative, and has more features. Ssh is slower due to the encryption, but I haven't found that to be a problem. > How do I setup rsh and ssh? Emerge openssh, and make sure sshd runs on the server. Read http://www.openssh.com/faq.html as a starting point. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Tomcat JAVA_HOME problem
> which java > /opt/blackdown-jre-1.4.1/bin/java I don't know exactly why tomcat is rejecting you JAVA_HOME, but you'll probably want your JAVA_HOME to reference a JDK, rather than a JRE. Tomcat needs the java compiler for compiling JSPs and possibly other dynamic files (Cocoon XSPs for example). Gwendolyn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Celerons are listed as pentium 2's in make conf
> Celerons are listed as pentium 2's in make conf: is that correct? Which Celeron? http://kernel.kernelnotes.de/linux-2.5.71/arch/i386/Kconfig : - "Pentium-II" for the Intel Pentium II or pre-Coppermine Celeron. - "Pentium-III" for the Intel Pentium III or Coppermine Celeron. - "Pentium-4" for the Intel Pentium 4 or P4-based Celeron. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Emerge world question
> And last question ... How to select packages I want/don't > want to be updated ? You can use emerge -U to update to a newer version only. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Masked packages and ACCEPT_KEYWORDS
Hi, I am trying to update some packages, but am running into trouble. I run a stable Gentoo, with a few hand picked exceptions of using masked packages. Now, when I want to upgrade tetex I get: # emerge -pu tetex !!!All ebuilds that could satisfy "tetex" have been masked. I understand why that is, I emerged the masked tetex 2.0. However, using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" still results in the error: # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -pu tetex !!!All ebuilds that could satisfy "tetex" have been masked. What is wrong here? If I use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" it should give me masked packages, right? Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources
> p.s.: Do you see an effect of your screen staying dark > during boot every > now and then, coming back to live if you switch the console back and > forth? No, I have not... Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources
> Do you think that radeon FB support is generally broke in 2.6? That > would be bad, because I've the very same situation as > you've described: > Laptop, Radeon plus TFT display running best @ 1400x1050. That is interesting... I have an Asus L3800S, with a Radeon mobility 7500. I have tried a few 2.5 kernels, and the 2.6-test1 kernel, but to no avail. Autodetection gives a totally warped and unreadable text screen, and all 1400x1050 parameter settings I could think of (playing with color depth and refresh rate) did not work either. Some of the 1280x1024 modes did work. What laptop/LCD/Radeon do you have? Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources
> What are your kernel parameters for 1400x1050? I'm using vga=0x318 > (1024x768) at the moment but anything higher like vga=0x31A|B > (1280x1024) gives blurred fonts like you said. No kernel parameters IIRC. I just enabled the radeon framebuffer in the kernel. It autodetects my LCD correctly, and sets the videomode accordingly. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources
> > > I have the same problem with 2.5 / 2.6-test kernels with my 7500 > > mobility. In my case the framebuffer does not autodetect > correctly (I > > get a very distorted display), and only lower resolutions work > > properly if I hand-pick them. The 2.4 series framebuffer > works like a > > charm without any kernel arguments! I did try to follow the > > differences in the radeon framebuffer code, but a whole bunch of > > settings and defaults have changed, and I lost my way. > > > > Anybody know more about this? I feel I didn't get enough concrete > > debug info to report it to the appropriate list. > > Did you try the vesa driver? Enable vesa driver in kernel > and add the > following for boot parameters where you can change vga= to whatever > resolution you'd like. No, I don't think vesa runs upto 1400x1050. I can run the 2.6 kernel radeon framebuffer in 1280x1024, so I don't see a need for using the vesa framebuffer. Anyway, because I do a lot of text editing in framebuffer mode (emacs/vim), I switched back to 2.4.21, and have a nice crisp 1400x1050 display. Running an LCD on a different resultion than the actual one always seems to give fuzzy characters. My problem really is that the radeon framebuffer works so nicely for 2.4, but not for 2.6. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources
> Chris I wrote: > > As I said, framebuffer, at least for me, refuses to work > no matter how > > hard I try, wheras with 2.4 it worked with so little > effort it was > > eerie. This, I think, is due to the fact that the > radeonfb is being > > worked on (was forked) again, and something broke > compatability with > > either my 7500 mobility, or the flat panel on the laptop. > > I assume you have found the framebuffer information on the > link below? > > http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/post-halloween-2.5.txt I have the same problem with 2.5 / 2.6-test kernels with my 7500 mobility. In my case the framebuffer does not autodetect correctly (I get a very distorted display), and only lower resolutions work properly if I hand-pick them. The 2.4 series framebuffer works like a charm without any kernel arguments! I did try to follow the differences in the radeon framebuffer code, but a whole bunch of settings and defaults have changed, and I lost my way. Anybody know more about this? I feel I didn't get enough concrete debug info to report it to the appropriate list. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Optimal speed for burning Linux ISO images
> Is there any particular optimal speed when burning Linux ISO > images? > > - does that particular speed is influenced by the > CD-RW drive, burning software, and CD-R media? I'd say its the lowest number of all of the above. If you have a decent computer then it's the minimum of the CDR media write speed and the CD-RW write speed. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Analog dail-up
Hi all, I want to use my analog modem (a combined Ethernet/modem PCMCIA card from 3COM) to dial up to my ISP using a normal analog phone line, when I'm on the road. Is there a document that describes somewhere how I set that up? The installation guide only mentions ADSL. Barring that, what packages do I need? Thanks, Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Analog dail-up
> As long as your modem detects okay, it's very easy. Just > emerge ppp, edit > /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 and then either run > /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 start or > rc-update add net.ppp0 default to your liking. I had a quick look at /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0, and it seems quite easy, as you say. I'll try it out tonite! Thanks! Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Correct way of installing PCMCIA?
> What is the preferred way of getting the card to work? > Kernel support? > pcmcia-cs? Linux-wlan-ng? I'd appreciate if you could point me to a > working howto somewhere or give me some assistance. Best regards, I have a LinkSys WPC11 PCMCIA card up and running with kernel 2.4.21. I have NO PCMCIA support in the kernel, and pcmcia-cs and linux-wlan-ng installed. IIRC I did add a service to my runlevel that starts the cardmanager (pcmcia?). Supposedly pcmcia-cs and linux-wlan-ng have better drivers than the kernel. I guess that can depend on the card(s) you have. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Correct way of installing PCMCIA?
> Thanks Gwen. Do I have to remove all PCMCIA support from > the kernel, or just PCMCIA > network devices and their drivers? I recall that when I > removed the PCMCIA options from > kernel hotplug support as well, compilation of > linux-wlan-ng failed because of no PCMCIA > support in the kernel. I believe I did uncheck the PCMCIA support in the kernel, and did not have a problem with compiling. Will have to check tonite (when I'm at home) though... Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Laptop in Europe
>From some of what I've heard, most parts of Europe have > their networks > publicly owned still, so within a single country it should be fairly > consistent. No idea on how well that would work travelling between > countries, though. Phone jacks and 220V plugs are typically different between European countries... IIRC in some cases different countries use the same jack, but wire it differently! You can get a travel kit at a good (European?) electronics store, or at an electronics store at an airport. I would expect you can find publically accessible (privately hosted) WiFi hotspots at all major European cities. But, again, regulations concerning WiFi are different between European countries. They differ in channels allowed, licensing, and if you are allowed to use it outside of a building (as if the radio waves will stop at the walls...). Any Italians or French out on this list? Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] kernel panic after first boot!
> what is the cause of this? just before the kernel panic usb > was detected. > but what in the process of usb detection causes the system > to hang? i have > nothing attached on my usb-ports, keyboard & mouse are on PS/2... What kernel? What hardware? Do you have ACPI or APM enabled? ACPI is known to cause problems on some system. Are you using a kernel config that you know should work for your machine? Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] kernel panic after first boot!
> > Are you using a kernel config that you know should work for your > > machine? > > i did no special kernel settings, just used genkernel with > gentoo-sources... I would double check the resulting kernel .config file (I am unfamiliar with genkerner; I assume it generates a kernel config for you). If you run 'make menuconfig' in /usr/src/linux you can look at it, and perhaps change it where needed. Removing support for hardware you don't have reduces possible problems with auto-detection. > but i am wondering, why is usb-storage and hid hardware > detected during > booting??? That is puzzling indeed... Unless it is compiled in (not as a module). Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Technique behind www.gentoo.org Website
> So if someone could bright me up a bit, I would be quite happy :) Read the articles Daniel Robbins wrote on that (2. The gentoo.org redesign: A site reborn): http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/articles.xml By the way: if you want to do dynamic XML based web stuff, I strongly recommend Cocoon from the Apache people. It's a nice way to deal with XML, XSLT and HTML (among other things). Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Newbie: installation directories?
Hi, > How do portage determines where a certain package has to be > installed (eg, /, > /usr, /usr/local, /opt or whatever)? That's in the Makefile of the package, and in the ebuild. From the user's viewpoint it's predefined. > Another question: how can one find out what package a given > file belongs to? Check out qpkg. I believe it is in the gentoolkit package. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] basic Gentoo CD doesn't boot
> I also had strange issues with my Toshiba Satellite 2430 > (P4-Notebook) with > several kernels from Gentoo 1.4 or Knoppix 3.2. My > self-made kernels were > only working if "Local APIC support on uniprocessors" > (CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC) > was completely deactivated in the kernel config. Same here. I don't believe that has ever worked for me, desktop nor laptop. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] VPN
> i need to setup a VPN connection from to my work, what kind > of program do i need to install, on my laptop. > At work the network administrator (PC user, so can't help > me) will setup all the rest. That depends more on the network you want to connect to than your laptop. What type of VPN will you be using (IPsec, PPTP, ...)? Or can you still choose? Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] VPN
> the only answer i got was, it must be a client app for checkpoint. That sounds like a proprietary solution. I guess you have to look at their web-site, and order a Linux client... I don't know anything about checkpoint, so I might be wrong here. VPN is really a broad term. Running PPP over SSH also creates a VPN (very simple to set up for point-to-point, an alternative perhaps?). Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge question
> I am playing with many kernel version. And must emerge > alsa-driver,nvidia-kernel for each kernel i install. > > My question is there is way when i emerge these two > modules, to tell, > with command line option to not unmerge the previous merged > modules ? > > I know that when i do emerge i have arround 5 second to > tell to portage > to not umerge. But i would like to have this done automaticly. I don't think that will solve your problem. Rebuilding a kernel already deletes existing modules, so emerge alsa-driver etc. is needed anyway. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Nested Maildirs
> On Wednesday 03 September 2003 00:02, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > courier-imap doesn't support nested dirs. > > Well, according to Robert Kruus I am wrong. I guess my > memory's going. Must be > age... pushing 25 and that. I think you are referring to the fact that courier-imap does not support directories hat also hold mail. A directory can hold mail folders, but a mail folder cannot hold directories... Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Nested Maildirs
> > I think you are referring to the fact that courier-imap does not > > support directories hat also hold mail. A directory can hold mail > > folders, but a mail folder cannot hold directories... > > I have a subdirectory of a mail directory with courier-imap. > > ~/.maildir= inbox > ~/.maildir/.Spam = where my spam goes > ~/.maildir/.Spam.not = where my false positives will be moved to > (for sa-learn) > > the above are > INBOX (containing mail) > Spam (containing spam) > not (containing not-spam) I'm (pleasantly) surprised. How can mail be stored in a directory? .maildir is a directory, so there must be a file somewhere that holds your inbox mail (/var/spool/...?). The naming convention .. I understand. BTW, might the difference be in the maildir format and MH format? IIRC Sylpheed does not let me make mail folders nested in mail folders on my (old RedHat 7.1) courier-imap server. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad sound-quality with Soundblaster Live! Value
> My problem is not with the volume, it's that the treble somehow gets > distorted and it sound as if the speakers are broken or > something. But > as I've tried plugging in several different speaker-sets > and the sound > still have this distortion I've ruled out that it's the > speakers fault. Perhaps a trivial remark, but did you check all the mixer settings? IIRC my soundcard distorts when one of the gains is at 100%, even if the total volume is low. Probably due to clipping somewhere in the path from input to output. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Nested Maildirs
> > (...) so there must be a file somewhere that holds > > your inbox mail (/var/spool/...?). > > inbox = ~/Maildir/[cur,new,tmp]/ > > http://www.qmail.org/qmail-manual-html/man5/maildir.html Thanks for the reply. I don't use maildir /w courier-imap, hence my confusion. I'm planning to migrate my RedHat mailserver to Gentoo in the not so far future, so it's good to know all this. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1236319,00.asp
> the thing still is that he really has to know what hes doing > and linux will hopefully never be a moron's operating system Which 'Linux' do you mean? I'm perfectly comfortable with the existence of click-and-go versions of Linux, as long as I still can configure my stuff by hand in /etc. Given the large range of audiences that Linux even today spans, it should be possible to add a version that non-programmers can use effortlessly, without corrupting the modular and scalable Linux spirit. > one of the things i love about daemons is the fact they arent > just shipped finished products > and that people can add and remove features while the product > is being worked on and everything is a work in progress... The problem is that some applications are not providing a more or less stand-alone function, but have to rely on various other applications/components that are already complex by themselves. Applications in the daemon class are typically well-defined and self-contained. Applications in the interactive multi-media class typically are not. I agree with the author of the article that a package is not truly installed unless it is up and running. Not all Gentoo packages meet that requirement. Some are straightforward to configure, and some are just damn hard to get going. As an example, it is somewhat silly that you are advised to _disable_ pcmcia support in the kernel when you want to install pcmcia-cs. I can understand why a lay person finds that confusing. Coming back to Gentoo, perhaps it is possible to create more high-level virtual packages (such as gnome) that bundle together a set of packages (such as everything needed to run MythTV), and include a post-install script that configures everything as required. That way the smart linux-savvy people can help out the 'morons'. Gentoo is about capturing the knowledge on how to configure and install packages in ebuilds, so why not take that one step further. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Grub
> I'm installing a new computer, but after running grub i > can't find a grub.conf in my /boot/grub directory. > I have run it several times now, but never is there a conf > file created and also no errors occur. I think you have to edit the file yourself. And I think the filename is still menu.lst, but might change to grub.conf at some later version. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] X doesn't run
> I managed to install gentoo on my acer travelmate 525te > laptop with ATI > rage mobility M1 AGP,but I am not able to get the X to run, > when i run > startx from command line i get a black-brown checked screen > with mouse > pointer(the normal linux cursor in the shape of "X"),i can > move the mouse > around but that all it does, no screen ,no icons nothing happens. Did you install a window manager? Do you have an .xinitrc in your home directory that starts the window manager? It looks like you are starting X-windows without anything else. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] new kernel - depmod problems
> QUESTION #1 - Is it a requirement that I need to rebuild > xfree each time > I build a new kernel? (Time consuming, but done.) No, I don't think so. Just remerge xfree-drm if you use it, not the whole xfree. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] user limits, pam.d
Mikhail P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So once user "user" logins via ssh, he supposed to have > these limits (viewble > via "ulimit -a"). However, it does not work - user still > has 1024 in FD > limit. > Now if I "su user" from root, and type "ulimit -a", I see > that FD is 4048! > > Any suggestions where the problem could be? Isn't 1024 a hard limit? Especially if you use select() you have to use a fixed size bitfield, which is IIRC 1024 bits long. I'd say you would need to do more than just raise the _allowed_ number of FDs per process. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..
brett holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your > system will break. Exactly. I would vote for keeping /etc/fstab.example in portage, and making the copying/editing part of the installation procedure (cp /etc/fstab.example /etc/fstab; nano -w /etc/fstab). Now I throw away new versions of /etc/fstab, that may include important comments or even important definitions such as for devfs or sysfs. I used to merge using Emacs ediff, but found it to quite cumbersome to page through long configuration files and deciding what to keep and what to merge. I guess the above is true for several other files. Any file that is hard/dangerous to merge automatically should NOT be in portage, but provided as an example or template instead. In some cases one could support optional configuration files that are read if they exist (if [ -f /etc/blah.local ]; then source /etc/blah.local; ...). My two Eurocents. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" You've got to be kidding me!!
Joshua Banks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Do I need to be a computer programmer now to figure out > what files I can update safely and which > ones I should ignore, keep, throw-out...ect.ect.. > > Now I know I'm new to this, but this seems a little ridiculous. I agree. > The only files that I'm familiar with are the ones that I > touched durning the initial install. I guess that might be an answer. If etc-update can check (md5, or otherwise) that the file has not been changed since the last update, it can suggest to update all those files in one go. That will leave you with just the files that might require human judgement. I can't think of an example where you would not want to update a configuration file that you did not change yourself. (Oops, that is three negatives in one sentence...) Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Laptop HDD Caddy Shack
> I have just purchased a Laptop HDD, and I am now in the > market for a nice small caddy shack for it. I was after > any recommendations for a caddy shack that has USB2.0 and > is compatible with Linux. I seen an advertisements a while > ago advertising laptop HDD caddy shack that was Linux > compatible (although can't remember the brand). This made > me think, does the caddy shack need to be compatible with > Linux to work under Linux? Or if your kernel is compiled > correctly the majority of caddy shacks should work? In the kernel config you can find a few options for particular USB storage device chip sets. I use a Jewel USB 2.0 mobile harddisk enclosure with a 20 GB 2.5" HDD, which works OK with Windows, but not flawless with Linux, using vanilla USB mass storage support. Writing large files sometimes hangs in Linux (both vfat and ext2). An older 4 GB HDD I had did not work at all (Windows not Linux). Hope this helps. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Console font sizing...
> How do I change the the font size for my console shells to > default to a specific size. > > Right now they are super tiny and I have to manually change > the size everytime I open up a new > shell window. Look at your .Xdefaults file. For example: *XTerm*foreground: white *XTerm*background: blue *XTerm*font: 9x15 Try googling for Xdefaults and xterm for more examples. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] xfree86: Failed to load module "radeon"
> Maybe i did something wrong when copying the kernel modules > to the xfree > modules dir and vice versa as someone in the chat told me. I don't recall doing that for my radeon based (7500) laptop. I set radeon as a use flag, compiled the kernel without any special DRI stuff, and emerged xfree-drm. No need to copy any files. I even think that the kernel modules only work with old XFree versions, not 4.3. Have you tried it this way? Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] xfree86: Failed to load module "radeon"
> xfree-drm for the radeon, works with XFree86 4.3.0 Right. But the DRI modules in the kernel don't. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: xfree86: Failed to load module "radeon"
> Do you also have > /dev/agpgart (AGP Support) as module and > Intel 440LX/BX/GX and > I815/I820/I830M/I830MP/I840/I845/I850/I860 support > in the kernel? Yes, I believe so, except I have to use i810 support for my Asus L3800S. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] recording linein
> Her comes another dumb one. My folks want me to copy all of > their 45's, 33's, > 78's, 8 tracks and cassets to cd. My question is what > programs do I need to > to record these from linein or mic and store them in mp3 > format until I burn > them. I know whats needed on windows but I am Trying to > migrate this thing to > strictly linux like I did my old machine. See Linux Journal #113 -- September 2003: 'From Vinyl to Digital' by Tom Younker. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] tk 8.3.4 Fails To Install
> I tried to update my nvidia-kernel and the whole thing > bombed on tk. > It built ok, but then I got this: > > strip: > /var/tmp/portage/tk-8.3.4/image/usr/lib/libtk8.3.so > /var/tmp/portage/tk-8.3.4/image/usr/bin/wish8.3 > >>> Completed installing into /var/tmp/portage/tk-8.3.4/image/ > > --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY > --- > LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-tk-8.3.4-1841.log" > > chown: /var/cache/edb > chown: /var/cache/edb/dep > open_wr: /var/cache/edb/mtimes > chown: /var/cache/edb/mtimes I had the same problem with another package. 'emerge portage' solved it for me... Gwendolyn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] drivers for Conexant hsf modem
> > I would of course prefer doing it the gentoo way. > > The LiveCD is just a means to an end. If Knoppix gets you > to Step 6 in > the install and the LiveCD doesn't, I say go with Knoppix. I use the Gentoo 1.2 CD for those things. After it has booted your PC you can remove it, unlike the 1.4 CD. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Problem getting gentoo on a HP laptop
> I've tried pretty much all of the boot parameters listing > by pressing > F2. I've tried nopcmcia, nousb, noapic, acpi=no, nonet, noscsi. Isn't it acpi=off? I remember that the help text said acpi=no, but that didn't work. (My Micron laptop does not like ACPI **at all**). Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] configuring wlan
Hi, > You need to create yourself a net.wlan0 init script. > Usually you can > just copy net.eth0 and add "need pcmcia" to the depend() section. I have a Linksys WPC11 up and running on my laptop. Unfortunately, the laptop is at home, and I am at work... I removed all Wireless support from the kernel, rebuild pcmcia-cs, and installed wlan-ng. I think the latter also gives you example net.DEFAULT-wlan (or something like that) files that you can use to create your own setup. I believe I also installed the wirelesstools (but don't use the tools), so the config files may be in there too. Whenever I pop in my wireless card, it is automatically started, and stopped when I pull it out. If you want detailed information, please let me know, and I will find out when I'm back at home. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] configuring wlan
> If you have a config file or two I can look at, that would be most > helpful... I will. > right now I think I'm using my own net.wlan0 > script, because I > have IPsec setup on my wireless network (which seems to > work much better > than WEP). Most articles I read on wireless VPN suggest ssh+ppp (not too efficient, but it is simple), or IPsec. I'm using a firewall on my server that only allows SSH, and most of the time I just use ssh (with cvs for example) to connect to my server. Only when I want to have a full connection I fire up a ppp connection across ssh. It works fine for me. Did you have to do anything special to get IPsec running? What package(s) are you using? Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Time is Wrong
> I just checked the hardware time, and it is set just fine. > So it is > the software clock that is getting messed up. I tried a > variation of > what you said, only setting the system time from teh > hardware clock then > removing /etc/adjtime. Perhaps it might even be a window manager > problem. I am using fluxbox.. Perhaps you do have a problem with your software. However, if you have to change the system time significantly, you really should remove the /etc/adjtime, because the drift correction factor in it will be wrong. This can happen if you change your configuration, e.g. run your clock on UTC, rather than local time. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Install fails
> I want to install Gentoo linux on my laptop but boot from > livecd fails because my laptop dislike apic and it does'n > work even if i pass 'noapic' to the kernel parms. Try apic=off Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Problems installing on an IBM Thinkpad R31
> I am trying to install Genttoo (I am a gentoo virgin :-) on > my laptop. WHen > the livecd boots, I get the logo, but when the kernel > starts loading, it gets > just reboots the machine and dumps me back to the splash > screen :-( Can > anyone suggest a cure for my Gentoo bloos? Before the kernel boots you can enter boot options. You may need to try a few of them. For example, acpi=off (not 'no') may improve things. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Problems installing on an IBM Thinkpad R31
> I am trying to install Genttoo (I am a gentoo virgin :-) on > my laptop. WHen > the livecd boots, I get the logo, but when the kernel > starts loading, it gets > just reboots the machine and dumps me back to the splash > screen :-( Can > anyone suggest a cure for my Gentoo bloos? You can also use the Gentoo 1.2 CD (more stable kernel), boot, eject the CD, and insert and mount the 1.4 CD. It worked for me. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] grub help (hda1=winxp, hda3=linux)
> I just finished rebuilding my machine and I repartitioned > my box so that > it looks like: > > /dev/hda1 = windows xp (ntfs) > /dev/hda2 = linux swap > /dev/hda3 = gentoo (ext3) > > no, I don't have a separate /boot partition. Anyway, I followed the > installation instructions (excellent btw!) and I'm having problems > getting grub to install on my MBR. In the grub prompt, > when I type in > "root(hd0,0)" it would come back with something like > "unrecognized file > type". After that it's pretty obvious that the > "setup(hd0,0)" wasn't > going to work. I don't think the message "unrecognized file type" is such a show stopper. It still can start that partition with the chainloader. I had GRUB installed on the MBR, so GRUB booted first, and when selecting my NT partition it would start the NT boot loader, that would in turn boot the selected NT configuration. Not sure if this is much help, but who knows. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Pcmcia-cs and kernel config
> Your kernel is configured with PCMCIA driver support. Therefore, > 'make all' will compile the PCMCIA utilities but not the drivers. > > But if i don't build the kernel with General Setup --> > PCMCIA/Cardbus Support: > PCMCIA SUPPORT > Cardbus support [*] As far as I know you can remove ALL PCMCIA support from the kernel (not even as a module), and then build all the PCMCIA support you need with pcmcia-cs. I would reboot before building pcmcia-cs, but I'm not sure if it's really needed. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Pcmcia-cs and kernel config
> But if I remove PCMCIA support, reboot (it doesn really > matter, but still..), > and build pcmcia-cs I get the pcmcia drivers but not the > socket driver > (yenta_socket) and can't load any of the pcmcia-cs drivers. > I have checked > that there is only a yenta.h header file in pcmcia-cs source files. I see your point. Did you check the documentation that comes with pcmcia-cs if you can use another device driver for the PCMCIA card you have? I believe that was the case for my wireless card: the kernel module that has support (sort of) for my card has a different name than the (ok) pcmcia-cs driver. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Mutt - IMAP Maildir problems...
> I have Mutt working (finally) with IMAP, but when changing > to folders (my > mailserver uses Postfix/Courier/procmail with Maildirs) > messages only show > for some folders... i.e.: > > root folder > folder1 > (has messages) > subfolder1 > (has messages) > subfolder2 >(has messages) > > In the above, the messages on folder1 don't show anywhere, > but when entering > subfolder1 or subfolder2, the messages in them show fine... Does Mutt support mail folders that double as directories? Courier may support this, but not all tools do. See for example http://www.washington.edu/imap/IMAP-FAQs/index.html#1.10 Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] CDRW problem
> I was trying to setup my CDRW drive but I cannot. I had > given to the kernel > the needed SCSI support and installed cdrecord, mksifos and > koncd. I was > going to make my first cd compilation with koncd but the > system doesn't > recognise my CDRW, it says: > > Cannot open SCSI driver > Access denied to /dev/pg* > > and I dont't have any pg* in my /dev. Where is the problem > and which is my > device in the /dev??? What kind of CDRW do you have? If it's an IDE drive you need to add something like ide-scsi=/dev/hdb to the kernel options. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and Rendezvous
> I'd like to ask the group a tentative and highly general > fuzzy question about > zeroconf and rendezvous. Not really a question, more of a > 'what about this > Rendezvous stuff, eh?': Well, it seems neat. The main problem I see is an organisational one, not a technological one. Jini is also quite neat, but has not exactly conquered the world. If too many parties participate no agreement will be made, if too few parties participate agreements are made, but without broad acceptance. But, there is no reason to dismiss zeroconf because of that. Choice is good, even when it comes to standards. If there is proper software support for zeroconf, you would think somebody will make it available to Gentoo. That person could be you! Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Wireless connection slow
> Just finished setting up a wireless network at home but its > much slower then > the theoretical 11M. I have the two computers 25.4 cm (10 > inches) from each > other and I get a rate of ~500K. The two computers are > side-by-side and I am > wondering if this might be a problem. Are your sure the numbers are in the same unit? On a 11 Mbit/s wlan a transfer rate of 500 Kbyte/s is quite reasonable... I get about 500 Kbyte/s on my wlan, which triggered my question. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Realistic Install timeframe
> I was thinking of installing Gentoo on my maching starting this > afternoon. My machine in a PII400 with 512M RAM, ATI > All-inWonder 128 > video, CD-RW, 48X CD, Iiyama 450. Would it be realistic if > I started > install (my first Gentoo install - currently dual-booting WinXP and > Libranet 2.7) at stage 1 this afternoon, that I could have > a functioning > (KDE, email, browser) up and running by tomorrow sometime? > If so, I'll > probably give it a try. I'm afraid not, only if you use binary packages. I would set aside a full weekend for it. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] PCMCIA network
> I have the pcmcia-cs installed for use with my orinoco > wireless card. filled in the /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opt file > for the base station > created /etc/init.d/net.eth1 with depend pcmcia > /etc/conf.d/net ad iface_eth1="dhcp" > /etc/modules.autoload has pcmcia_core,i82365 > run rc-update add pcmcia default What happens if you insert the card? Does cardmngr react? If so, what does it say? Also, did you emerge linux-wlan-ng? Did you compile PCMCIA & wireless support into the kernel, or not? >From what I've read, it is better to remove all PCMCIA & wireless stuff from the kernel, and use pcmcia-cs and linux-wlan-ng. That's what I use for my LinkSys WPC11 card. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USB Mass Storage
> hub.c: new USB device 00:02.0-2, assigned address 5
> usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout
> usb.c: USB device not responding, giving up (error=-110)
> hub.c: new USB device 00:02.0-2, assigned address 6
> usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=6 (error=-110)
>
> Can someone give me a hand here?
I'm afraid not (at least not by me), but I do have the same problem.
It doesn't happen always, but about every other time after a reboot.
Also, when the USB device is already plugged in when booting, chances
seem higher that things go wrong. Also, during large fetches
(emerge -uf world) the drive may suddenly switch to read-only mode.
Finally, the USB driver may even stop working altogether, as is logged
as a kernel message ('usb blah blah stopped working. not good', or
something to that effect).
Very same laptop / USB device combo works OK when I boot into Win2K...
A short Google gave me one interesting hit:
http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#ts6
I'll have to try that out (fiddle with the 'Expected OS' setting in
the BIOS). It may be an interrupt thing. Perhaps it works for you.
Gwendolyn.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Reinstall and keep portage files
> I need to reinstall my system but want to keep the > downloaded files in the portage, so i don't have to > donwload them again. And your question is...? If you're wanting to know what you need to back up, I'd say: backup /usr/portage/distfiles/ The package list is also quite big, but doing a fresh emerge sync doesn't hurt too much. Otherwise just backup the whole /usr/portage. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USB Mass Storage
> > > hub.c: new USB device 00:02.0-2, assigned address 5 > > > usb_control/bulk_msg: timeout > > > usb.c: USB device not responding, giving up (error=-110) > > > hub.c: new USB device 00:02.0-2, assigned address 6 > > > usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=6 (error=-110) > > IIRC you need the SCSI modules available. Do you? Yes I do. This is an intermittent problem, so I do now it works OK at least some of the times... It seems that my newly compiled vanilla 2.4.20 is doing much better. The above problem happened on 2.4.19. I also started using an ext3 partition on the USB harddisk, and that seems to be much more robust when things go wrong. I have lost a large directory tree on that disk that was in fat32. The driver did warn me: 'Data integrity not guaranteed' (dmesg). Now I am a believer... Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Install problems
> Hi all. I am just a newbie with gentoo. I try to emerge kde, but > emerge fail. The packet scrollkeeper cannot compile, here is the > error message : > > ERROR: app-text/scrollkeeper-0.3.11-r1 failed > Function src_install, Line 56, Exitcode 2 This is not the real error. Please look a bit above this message, and give us the part that really caused the problem, e.g. something going wrong in compiling a source file. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Install problems
> /bin/install: cannot stat ./sk/scrollkeeper_cl.xml no such > file or directory > /bin/install: cannot stat ./zh_TW/scrollkeeper_cl.xml no > such file or directory > ... and so on with many more It seems you hit some sort of install problem. I haven't seen this one (anyone else?). Are the requested files really missing, or are the paths just wrong? A short Google didn't turn up anything, so I guess you either submit a bug report, or dig around the Makefile or ebuild to figure out what the problem is. Perhaps the ebuild is taking things too seriously: it might be OK to have those files missing (if you don't need Tawianese texts), but ebuild still stops because of them. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] What's the deal with aegis?
> I was just window-shopping in the portage dev-utils > directory, and came across aegis. Has anyone used this, > and can they provide a nutshell-scoped list of pros & cons > compared to CVS? I haven't used it, only looked at it (window shopping like you). The main difference I see is that it enforces good software development habits, such as forcing you to write unit tests for each piece of code, and only allowing to check in code that passes the tests. As such, aegis is much more than version control. I would be very interested in any hands-on experience people have with aegis, especially the human factor in this. Programmers can be stubborn... (For the record, I am a software architect and programmer.) Perhaps there are more appropriate newsgroups to discuss this. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] survey: gentoo corporate usage?
Spider wrote: > > Okay, I'll take the bait... here Thanks for your response. As far as I can tell I agree with you. Gentoo is a 'do-it-yourself' distribution, and very good at it. The (true) bugs people experience and report are inevitable when you take into account the rate of change in the packages. Let's hope we take turns in experiencing an installation (emerge) setback, try to resolve it, and file a bug report with (hopefully) a suggestion for a fix. After the fix is applied, everything is OK again, and we all profit. I don't see much point in graphical installers, and actually not even in the binary packages Gentoo already offers on the CD images. The reason that even a plain RedHat install is bulky is simply because they want to make all people happy, and turn on many --enable flags when building their RPMs. Consequently, many dependencies arise. I don't see how an 'Enterprise Gentoo Linux' install CD would change that. Compiling from source is not really an option for the average Linux user, I think. What I can see is a sysadmin maintaining a master Gentoo system, that has all the stuff the employees of that specific company need (or for a set of systems that suit a particular purpose). The binary packages can be created on that master system, and be applied to other systems when things check out OK. Perhaps some more tools are needed to make that process more painless, but I would focus on that, rather than on ready-made installers. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?
> Which java sdk should i use? What do you want to use it for? Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Which java-sdk?
> Has anyone ever heard why the JVMs out there always lose to their > Windows counterparts in performance figures? The latest study at > this site shows all the Linux JVMs failing the number of > concurrent connections test miserably, except for the Blackdown > 1.3.1 JVM which otherwise sucks in terms of performance. I haven't heard, but I guess that Windows JVMs take advantage of Windows native threads and the efficient use of CriticalSection (which is quite fast), while most Linux JVMs use multiple processes. Just do a 'ps aux' after you started some big app like Borland Enterpise Server... Linux is supposed to have much better threading in 2.6, and hopefully app's will start taking advantage of that. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Java error
> I'm new to the whole java language. Anyway, i'm using
> kdevelop as my ide, and
> i have this simple java code:
>
> class Main{
>
> public static void main( String[] args ){
> System.out.println( "Hello, world!" );
> }
> }
>
>
> and when i try to compile it i get this error:
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Main
This is indeed the wrong place to discuss basic java programming, but
anyway.
I suspect you issued:
java Main.java
rather than:
javac Main.java(compile)
java Main (run)
Gwendolyn.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Java error
> Purchace good java book, or better purchace good C++ book - > java isn't good language at all. That's quite a flame-starter... I would recommend reading "Thinking in Java": http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/ It's pretty thorough. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Java error
> BTW, why are you using outlook express? Don't tell me, you > are running it under wine :) I'm running regular Outlook on w2k. Company policy... But, to my defence, I run fetchmail/pine at home. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Power Edge 2650
> I am beginning an install on a Power Edge 2650. > Does anyone have any pointers or similar experiences > to share? We have a couple at my work, running RedHat Advanced Server 2.1. > The box has booted up fine using the 1.4rc4 > live. Only thing is It did not seem to detect > my scsi hard drives. All I can tell is that the default RedHat installation worked, but they might have patched the kernel. We're running the default RedHat kernel 2.4.9e.3smp. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Power Edge 2650
> > The box has booted up fine using the 1.4rc4 > > live. Only thing is It did not seem to detect > > my scsi hard drives. > > All I can tell is that the default RedHat installation worked, but > they might have patched the kernel. We're running the > default RedHat > kernel 2.4.9e.3smp. Well, that's not quite true; I remembered one additional thing: we also run RedHat 7.1 on Dell 2650's. They needed the updated bcm5700 driver from HP (do a Google on 'bcm5700 linux', and you'l find them). Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Wireless recommendations?
> 1 DSL WLAN Router, I would get a (cheap/old) PC with DSL on one end, and WAP at the other end. That way you can use Linux firewalling, and not be restricted to what a WAP/DSL box can do. I use a LinkSys WAP11 (ethernet / web setup, OS independent). > 1 PCMCIA WLAN card for a laptop (SuSE 8.2) LinkSys WPC11 works OK for me (I use pcmcia-cs plus linux-wlan-ng). > 1 PCI WLAN Card for a desktop (Gentoo). No experience with that. The LinkSys stuff I have works really well with Linux. Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] having trouble mounting an smb share as a normal user
> anyone had this problem before? in my fstab i have this: > > //jaysdell/mp3 /mnt/jay smbfs user,rw,guest,uid=500 0 0 > > but at boot time it won't mount... even though all my nfs > shares work just > fine. > > so as a regular user, i tried this: > > (~) $ mount /mnt/jay/ > INFO: Debug class all level = 2 (pid 3668 from pid 3668) > added interface ip=192.168.1.107 bcast=192.168.1.255 > nmask=255.255.255.0 > cannot mount on /mnt/jay: Operation not permitted > smbmnt failed: 1 What did you put in your default runlevel: netmount, nfsmount? I don't know the details, but you might look at that. If I recall well Gentoo mounts only certain parts from your fstab, depending on the runlevel config. Also, what is the mode for /mnt/jay? Is it 777, or more restricted? If so, that might explain why it won't mount manually as a user. Hope any of this helps... Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
