Re: [gentoo-user] Americas Army
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 10:52 +, Cumbers wrote: My question is how do I let someone within gentoo know that this is the case, and get them to upgrade the portage to reflect this change of versions? File a bug if there isn't one: http://bugs.gentoo.org/ -- Janne -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution leaving behind processes
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 09:05 -0500, fire-eyes wrote: On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 13:53 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: evolution --force-shutdown That did exactly what I was looking for, thanks. Though I don't quite understand why that's not done when I exit the program. Well, I'd have to say that it is because Evolution-data-server also offers services to other applications. You know sharing calendar and contacts between applications (gnome clock/calendar, gaim, ...). And that is the behavior that most people, including me, want. I see no reason to collect contact lists and calendar entries for every application separately, and I think that the new system is a great improvement over the previous situation. I just hope that more and more applications start using the data-server offered by evolution. -- Janne -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 12:42 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Probably not, it probably just puts an icon in the Kmenu. I'm still not really sure, but at least Jan Callewaert just said in this thread that: If you use the kde use flag, you have also kdeified menu's and icons and it uses kde dialogs, etc. I think it's in fact patched like the SUSE Openoffice version, which is also kdeified. It's really nice. I don't think anyone's come up with a sed+awk/perl/python script to automagically convert GTK/Gnome apps to QT/KDE. I don't think so either, but OpenOffice-Ximian is neither GTK nor Qt app and I know it has been themed to match both. -- Janne -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 12:28 -0500, Covington, Chris wrote: On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 15:54 +0100, Sebastian Flothow wrote: Am 23. Jan 2005 um 13:02 Uhr schrieb Janne Johansson: There are functionality patchea as well, for example CUPS integration. That sounds nice. Are there any drawbacks to OO-Ximian? I would prefer it if there were OO-KDE instead of OO-Ximian. Since I'm mainly a Gnome/Openbox user, I have no ide what the kde use-flag does with the openoffice-ximian, but I do know there is one: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge openoffice-ximian -vp These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] app-office/openoffice-ximian-1.3.7 +curl -debug +gnome -hardened +java -kde +nptl +zlib 0 kB It may be what you're looking for, but then again it may not. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OO vs OO-Ximian
On Sun, 2005-01-23 at 09:31 -0200, Julio Biason wrote: 2005.01.23 02:01:51, Sven Köhler: OpenOffice (vanilla) uses QT. Ximian/Novell has rewritten the GUI to use GTK, so if you're a gnome user, than you'd might like to test OpenOffice-Ximian. NO! OpenOffice uses its own widget toolkit. Yup. The main difference from OO and XOO is that the later has patches to follow the GTK colors (colors only) and use the default GNOME icons. I think there is also support for gnomevfs (so you can access samba shares) but I'm not sure. There are functionality patchea as well, for example CUPS integration. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Tip Winamp 2 Skins for XMMS
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 19:32, Norberto Bensa wrote: XMMS must die. It's ugly. I don't know, I kind of like it. I like beep media player even more ;) Hard to use. I don't think so. If you're using KDE take a look at JuK. Or Rhythmbox if you're on Gnome. You'll never look back, I promise. I already looked at Rhythmbox and I did look back. Beep rocks. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sun java plugin with mozilla firebird 0.7
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 06:31, Gregory P. Smith wrote: anyone have this working? Yes. No problems whatsoever. about:plugins works in the browser, but the browser process just dies as soon as it tries to load an actual applet. No problems. Actually I also seemd to have link: javaplugin_oji.so - /opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1/jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so installed, but removing it caused no effect, so I assume that: libjavaplugin_oji.so - /opt/sun-jdk-1.4.2.03/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so works. i symlinked the ns610-gcc32 plugin into the /usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins directory. Well, that's how I have it working. I also used to have the plugin from the packet sun-j2sdk, and it worked also. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] motherboard
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 00:45, Steve B. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would go with the asus a7n8x dlx I have gone with the asus a7n8x deluxe and have no regrets. It is fast and stable. Not a single problem in my setup. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+1.2 vs gtk+2.0
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 02:31, Ben Munat wrote: sigh... I just love linux... Ok, so I assume it would be bad/impossible to *also* install gtk+1.2? No, I have them both installed. Portage installs gtk+1.2 and gtk+2.x to different slots automatically. Meaning I should unmerge 2.0 and emerge gtk again with some option to specify the version I want? No, you can have both. Would I then not be able to use a zillion programs that expect gtk 2.0? No, unless you want to unmerge gtk+2.x. Also, the matrox powerdesk prog is also available as an rpm... anyway to use rpms on gentoo? emerge rmp - use rpm -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: A good book on C Programming?
On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 23:20, Gavin Henry wrote: But now I really want to get back into it as I see a point with GNU/Linux. I want to get my old skills back and write something or help on some projects etc. Good for you :) I need some good books. I used to have one called A Book On C, but sold it, and I have been reading various tutorials on the web and the many devoted websites. Anyone have any recommendations? The book review section at http://www.accu.org/ is pretty great. Get a highly recommended book, and you wont be sorry. One more question, should I go for C or C++? Which will benefit me more with GNU/Linux? I'd go with C++, but then again the *NIX world is still pretty much C oriented. Happy hacking. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing from OpenOffice with Cups
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 07:30, Keith Dart wrote: Run: /opt/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/spadmin I knew that was the old way, but is it still valid? I'm runnig Ximian-OO1.1 from BMG and spadmin isn't even available, it just works with cups right out of the ebuild. Has Ximian done something good for printing with their OO. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xconfig
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 22:45, Paul Stear wrote: Hi all, I wanted to use xconfig to make a new kernel but it fails. How does it fail? What do I need to use xconfig instead of menu config? Depends. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xconfig
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:22, Paul Stear wrote: This is the error output, hope it helps, I seem to remember along time ago mention was made of needing something extra for xconfig to work. bash-2.05b# cd /usr/src/linux bash-2.05b# make xconfig ... wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk make: wish: Command not found Seems like you're at least missing the command wish, which is part of the tk. Re-emerge tk and try again to see what happens. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openssl 0.9.7
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 21:38:21 -0800 Bryce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we're talking about openssl 0.9.7 failures, abiword no longer works after this upgrade as well. I've tried reemerging libgnome( that's the error that happens while rebuilding abiword) and i get no love. You should proopably run the revdep-rebuild. It has worked for me every single time. I've emerged openssl 0.9.7, ran revdep-rebuild and everthig works fine (also Abiword 2.0.1). -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice-ximian question
On Mon, 2003-10-20 at 01:06, Collins Richey wrote: In an earlier thread about compiling openoffice, someone made reference to openoffice-ximian1.1-r1. What is this? It's OpenOffice made pretty by Ximian. possibly also more usable, but I don't know about that. Shots form the Ximian site: http://www.ximian.com/images/screenshots/desktop/sales_report_word_processing.png http://www.ximian.com/images/screenshots/desktop/ooo-present.png http://www.ximian.com/images/screenshots/desktop/spreadsheet.png http://www.ximian.com/images/screenshots/desktop/ooo-with-resume.png Where obtainable? Read the thread openoffice-ximian-1.1.0 [ebuild inside] from the gentoo forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=92757 Why would I want it? If you're a Gnome user, you get an OpenOffice that fits perfectly in the GTK2 environment. Also the icons are prettier ;) You want it because it looks better than vanilla OO and performs the same tasks. I can't understand why it isn't in the portage :( Suka and BMG save the day. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 3.3.1-r4??? A winner?
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 17:46, Meka[ni] wrote: I am runing gcc-3.3.1-r1 and no problems. I'm running gcc 3.3.1-r3 and no problems... yet. I'll update to r4 as soon as possible, even though the r2-bug bit me (and I totally fu*ked up fixing it). What was the bug in r2? It created corrupt binaries. For example openssh segfaulted as soon as you started sshd or tried to use ssh. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 10:18, Alexander Plank wrote: Thunderbird doesnt open a browser when links are clicked. No it doesn't. I find this odd. It's not odd, it's not just implemented yet. Does anyone else have this problem? Everyone I suppose. From the Thunderbird ToDo-list: We need a linux guru to implement nsIExternalProtocolService::loadUrl for linux. Without this, we don't load http urls (and other non mail urls) in the default browser like we should. I'm not sure what the OS integration hooks are for Linux to implement this routine. It problable depends on the desktop environment being used? (Bryner might have something for this for gnome) http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/todolist.html This might be fixed in 0.3 release: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/roadmap.html -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS vs. samba
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 10:38, Chris van der Pennen wrote: I have a near-identical setup. Me too :) If the laptop's not plugged in, after about 10-20 seconds rpc gives up with destination unreachable and the filesystem just doesn't mount. Yup. If you are worried about the delay, you can always take it out of the fstab and mount it manually. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 13:45, roger21 wrote: damn you everybody :) how can you say that, i mean you use a product in free software comunity and you don't care about what is done with the money they earn !! this is unresponsable As I see it, money is not the issue. As long as the software is free and the quality of the software high, I'm willing to donate money to show my support. If drinking beer is what makes gentoo good, I don't care if they use my money to buy beer ;) Although I don't think it's beer, since Robbins did post to this list and he did explain what the money has been used so far (and that gentoo has not made any profit). Search the archives, you'll find it. for my part, i really don't know what they do with the money, i prefer imagining they just use it for expenses, charges and developement but i will never say i don't care Yup, thats pretty much what Robbins told it was used for. You don't have to say I don't care, but if you want to know, search for the Robbins article. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 01:49, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote: Having heard and read about this issue too I just want to express that for me personally all this does not count: I don't care about the business model, but only about the quality of Gentoo. As long as it is good like today (or better :-)) I will use it - no matter if it costs money or not. Sorry for this 'me too' posting, but I totally agree with Karl. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:06, Eric Livingston wrote: [some samples...] You'd just go right on donating? Because they write good software? I find that very odd, like you don't understand how money gets things done and by giving folks money you enable their agendas while reducing your ability to prosecute yours. I do not know where you got your ideas form, nor do I care. I support things that I think are right. I think Gentoo is a right thing, even though it is from USA and I do not think that war on Iraq, Gulf war or the Vietnam war were right. But... am I using Gentoo because a) it is good (the best I've found) or b) because I can't use Windows since MS supports Bush administration? -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 17:56, Yorkshire Dave wrote: On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 15:16, Janne Johansson wrote: I do not know where you got your ideas form, nor do I care. I support things that I think are right. I think Gentoo is a right thing, even though it is from USA and I do not think that war on Iraq, Gulf war or the Vietnam war were right. Just because they both originate from the same location doesn't mean they share the same viewpoint. Yes, I'm aware of that, but I believe that Gentoo Inc is paying taxes to the US, but I can't be sure since I'm really not interested in taxation issues either. But by donating (which I've done) I might be indirectly supporting the breaking of the Kioto protocol or even war, and that is not a nice thought. Then again, I believe that Gentoo is politically neutral (or one of the good guys) when it comes to thing outside the software industry and inside software industry the definitely are among th good guys. Seems like I'll be donating money in the future also (when I can afford it) and my time when I can. I'm in the UK, this country joined in the pillage of Iraq too, and my best efforts to stop it only lead to me being arrested and photos of the arrest appearing on various websites. You wouldn't happen to have any URLs? I might want to see that picture. But... am I using Gentoo because a) it is good (the best I've found) or b) because I can't use Windows since MS supports Bush administration? I'd go with A, the benefits of B are just a useful by-product :) I believe you're right. I use Windows at work, since I don't really have a choice (developing windows software in C++), but other than that it's Gentoo all the way. I wouldn't mind doing *nix programming for money, but there aren't really that much (open) positions for *nig developers (at least here in Finland). -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Donation disclosure
On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 18:13, Eric Livingston wrote: I see, so you won't buy MS products because they support Bush, but you'll happily donate to Gentoo even though they could also be supporting Bush? You are being completely inconsistent. No. It was a question. Anyway I can't see Gentoo supporting anybody but programmers, since Gentoo isn't really profitable. A.) You'll donate to Gentoo because they have a product you like, and don't care where the money goes B.) You won't buy anything from Microsoft because your money would support Bush, no matter what products they have. a) Do you really not understand a question when one is presented or b) are you just trolling? So which is it? Do you or do you not care how your money is being used? If product quality is everything, then why talk about who MS supports: it shouldn't matter to you at all! Yes that would be b, you're just trolling. Find something better to do. I for one will not be feeding this bullshit any longer. When I said As long as the software is free and the quality of the software high, I'm willing to donate money to show my support. what I didn't say was As long as the software is proprietary and the quality of the software high, I'm willing to but the software to show my support. So, I'm supporting the (further) development of Gentoo. I've gotten an explanation about the use of the donated money, and I'm happy with that. I've got no need to doubt the thing I've been told (in this list) by persons who know what they are talking about. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] network help needed
On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 20:25, Alberto Bert wrote: up to now I'm doing something EXTREMELY stupid: I have 2 /etc/conf.d/net and I switch between them manually, then since I don't know how to restart the network with new parameters, I reboot :-( (/etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop and start doesn't work, I mean probably it's not enought) Ouch... I'm sure there is something more clever. Yes. Any suggestion? # emerge quickswitch -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla-firebird and text input
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:06:07 -0400 rh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When using MozillaFirebird, I can enter text in the dialog boxes but it just doen't get used for some reason. Apparently it is enough to unmerge firebird, remove /usr/lib/MozillaFirebird/ and emerge firebird again. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=71009 -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] which java?
On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 19:46, Jason Calabrese wrote: I use the sun-jdk which I think is actually mislabeled in the Portage tree. The sun-jdk actualy installs Sun's java sdk not the jdk. As I see it sdk==jdk, sdk == software development kit and jdk == java development kit. The sun jre (java runtime environment) seems to be missing though, but who needs it. The sdk contain all the dev tools like javac and javadoc and the jdk is just for running prebuilt java apps. Nope, jre is just for running prebuilt java apps. It looks like sun-j2sdk tries to build the sdk from source. Yup, that's what it's there for. The only java versions that will work with self compiled (with gcc3.2.x) web browser are blackdown = 1.4.1, self compiled sun java == sun-j2sdk and sun java 1.4.2, but 1.4.2 isn't available as an ebuild yet, so one should go with blackdown, or compile his/her own sun java if browser support is needed. All javas will work by themselves. -- janne -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] getting giFT to work properly
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:45:43 -0500 Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have any problems with the giFT daemon randomly dying? I do, but I don't know what to do about it. Could it be the compile flags or the giFT-settings? -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gedit merge problem
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:20:12 +0300 (EEST) Can Burak Cilingir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am getting gnome, gedit is a dependency but i cannot get gedit it cannot find /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la i have /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/libstdc++.la should i downgrade to 3.2.2 ? (i guess NO :)) or should i create a symlink ? what should i do ? as root: # cd /usr/lib # fgrep 'libstdc++.la' * and re-emerge everything that points to: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.2/libstdc++.la - problem solved :) there's a bug filed for it: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24909 I had to re-emerge aspell and gtkspell. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] which Gentoo version for Celeron 566
Gour wrote: I'm planning to switch to Gentoo from SuSE by buying 1.4 Gentoo Linux CD set. Buying a CD set is a great idea :) What is the correct version for my Celeron 566: i686 or Pentium III CdD set? I believe your Celeron is a P2. Since there isn't a P2 optimized CDs available (to order) yet, the best bet would be i686. There might still be P2 optimized set coming though, since the GWN says we are now accepting pre-orders for Gentoo Linux 1.4 for x86, i686, Pentium III, Pentium 4 and Athlon XP, with other architectures coming soon. -- janne -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] which Gentoo version for Celeron 566
Jason Stubbs wrote: I don't know whether the Celeron in question is P2 or P3, but I'm pretty sure that i686 is P2. Yes it is... damn. 586 was P1, was it not? So if it is in fact P2, the i686 build would be the best to get. You're absolutely right. What was I thinking... When it says other architectures coming soon, it probably means IA64, Opteron, etc. Possibly athlon classic/old durons also... -- janne -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache
Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: Does anybody else see Bernhard's Apache mail as an reply or is it just me? _O/ And the message itself has a In-Reply-To -header. -- janne -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] add hardware wizard ...
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 13:05:06 +0300 raptor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, Is there a app similar to kudzu or similar for gentoo emerge kudzu ? -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flash + Java under Mozilla Firebird
On 10 Jul 2003 00:07:59 -0400 Trevor Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't get Flash or Java to install for Firebird, the installers dont seem to recognize it at all. This is a particular problem with Flash because the installer doesnt give me an option to choose an installation directory, it just autodetects and asks me if its correct. Installers? Your not using portage to install these? Why? Maybe it would be too easy, since all you had to do was: flash: emerge netscape-flash and java: emerge blackdown-jdk or emerge blackdown-jre or emerge sun-j2sdk -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh demon
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 16:44:40 +0200 Alberto Bert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my gentoo doesn't allow ssh from outside, does anyone know how to activate it? If I remember correctly, it does by default. Have you got the sshd running? If not: /etc/init.d/sshd start If connection is still refused, try editing: /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restart the server: /etc/init.d/sshd restart (btw. how have you configured your firewall?) -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] non-gentoo-specific question: browsermodification
I came across this problem on a website recently (it wanted me to be running netscape 4.7x or ie); I sent the webmaster a nice little email, but as a temporary fix, I would like Mozilla-Firebird to fake being a version of Netscape. install the User Agent Switcher extension form: http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions.html#User%20Agent%20Switcher -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge mod_php - error: ... while cross compiling
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:59:25 +0200 (CEST) Henri Schomäcker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything ran fine but the emerge -u mod_php. When testing before configuring, I got the following errormessage: # error: can not run test program while cross compiling I use: CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS='-march=i586 -mcpu=i686 -O3 -pipe' When I try to emerge php, I get the same results. try this: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=64713 -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Windows to linux... What was that app?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:58:11 -0700 Zack Gilburd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Your mail was sooo full of (intentional?) misunderstandings that I couldn't believe it. Others have addressed most of them, but lets take this as a another example... Well currently they are still using Windows, and I've totally stopped using it (except in my work as windows developer because I really don't have a choise). Still I keep thinking about installing linux on my parents machine also, since they are already using mozilla etc. LOL they are using Mozilla so now they are ready to take on a command line with nothing being familiar to them? HAHAHAHAH... I only ask that you open your eyes. Linux is NOT the best choice for everyone, and god help us the day that it is. ?? Who said anything about command line? They don't use it in windows either, and propably don't even know what it is. If I was to set up a linux-box with gnome/kde and a graphical login, with mozilla, balsa/sylpheed/evolution (pre-configured of course) and openoffice buttons in the workspace/toolbar, why would the ever need to touch the command line? All they ever do is use those applications, but because it's linux everybody needs to do some hacking in the command line? -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Windows to linux... What was that app?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:58:11 -0700 Zack Gilburd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (not taking into account that linux doesn't really need a anti-virus software). What a terrible assumption. No it's not. A well thought out and planned attack can be executed and completed sucessfully against Linux than it can Windows. Yes it can, but I wasn't talking about it. What I said was, that under linux, you do no really need an anti-virus program. Since my parents_do not_ download spyware, or any other software for that matter, the only source for viruses is virus infested emails. And as I see it, linux email-clients do not have nearly as extencive 'run-a-virus' or 'spread-a-worm' support as say OE. However, your box is not being rooted every five minutes because virus are not developed against Linux due to the fact that a very small percentage of people use Linux. Yes, and if more people used linux, more viruses would propably exist, but even then a regular user could only hose his/her own files, and not the whole computer. If more viruses existed, anti-virus program _might_ be needed, but in that case I could easily set it up for them. -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozilla build
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:04:24 +0200 Alberto Bert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm building mozilla and by emerge -pv I get a lot of USE option not set. Are they somewhere described, I don't want install something which I'll never use (like mozilla mail). try ufed [ ] mozaccess ( ) Local Flag: blank (net-www/mozilla) [ ] mozcalendar( ) Local Flag: blank (net-www/mozilla) [ ] mozilla( ) Adds mozilla support [ ] mozinterfaceinfo ( ) Local Flag: blank (net-www/mozilla) [ ] moznocompose ( ) Local Flag: If you do NOT want the web page [ ] moznoirc ( ) Local Flag: If you do NOT want the IRC clien [ ] moznomail ( ) Local Flag: If you do NOT want the mail clie [ ] moznoxft ( ) Local Flag: blank (net-www/mozilla) [ ] mozp3p ( ) Local Flag: blank (net-www/mozilla) [ ] mozsvg ( ) Local Flag: blank (net-www/mozilla) [ ] mozxmlterm( ) Local Flag:blank(net-www/mozilla) or the page: http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml but mozilla flags aren't showing there yet. -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice woes
On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:38:24 -0400 brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. If I remember correctly, I merged OO, then under my user had to run another install to setup the user. That is true, if you install it from the package distributed by OO.org. Every time I've emerged OO, whether it was binary or self compiled, the first run dos the nesessary installation prosedures. As my user I ran the setup in the openoffice/bin directory. OO is under /opt if you installed in the default location - IIRC. What you did was run oowriter which trys to start the office writer but nothing is setup in your home yet. Even if I delete the .openoffice -folder and the .sversioninc, the next time I run ooffice, it sets itself up again. I've never had to do the client-install thing myself, when using OO suplied by portage. -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Windows to linux... What was that app?
The day my grandmother can get over the learning curve of managing her own Gentoo box, then we'reclose. ?? Can your grandmother manage her own windows computer? Without help? Without some preinstalled, preconfigured system? Wow, what a grandma... -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Windows to linux... What was that app?
Please don't get me wrong. I run Linux every bit as much on most days as I run Windows. I have run Wine for a few apps, hoping to give up Windows completely, but it's not ready for prime time so I haven't been able to do that. (Yet!) What my point really was, was that for example my parents (my grandparents are all dead, or well on their way...) don't really know what a computer does, and they don't even care enough to learn. What that means is that they really couldn't buy a computer without OS installed, if I wasn't there to install it. When it is installed, they couldn't care less what OS it really is, as long as they have the nice looking button that opens the web-browser, the other button that opens e-mail client and the one that opens word processing software (actually they don't even know that those are the real names and not internet, mail and writing program). My mom has managed to get an anti-virus software installed by herself, following instructions from her ISPs website, but I doubt if it was easier than: emerge f-prot (not taking into account that linux doesn't really need a anti-virus software). I don't see how Windows could be any easier. And since I'm already acting as a helpdesk over the phone, on a linux box I could just log in to their computer using ssh and do the needed adjustments/updates (unless of course, the help request was about some feature in the 'writing program'). How easy would that be for me and for my parents? Well currently they are still using Windows, and I've totally stopped using it (except in my work as windows developer because I really don't have a choise). Still I keep thinking about installing linux on my parents machine also, since they are already using mozilla etc. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge sun-j2sdk-1.4.1-r1
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 01:08:18 +0200 Matthias F. Brandstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unzip: cannot find /usr/portage/distfiles/j2sdk-1_4_1-src-scsl.zip, /usr/portage/distfiles/j2sdk-1_4_1-src-scsl.zip.zip or /usr/portage/distfiles/j2sdk-1_4_1-src-scsl.zip.ZIP. I have downloaded the two necessary files and tried to unzip j2sdk-1_4_1-src-scsl.zip manualy (it works), but I always get this error. Does somebody know a solution to this error? Sorry for asking the obvious, but are you completely sure you copied the downloaded file j2sdk-1_4_1-src-scsl.zip to /usr/posrtage/distfiles? The real problem seems to be that the file is not found, and that's why it can't be unzipped. Is it there: ls /usr/portage/distfiles/j2sdk* -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gedit 2.2.2
On 21 Jun 2003 11:45:58 +0930 James McArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem I see is that I'm using gcc-3.3, and it's built for i686, hence, no /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586* directory. libtool reports all of the correct settings for my setup, and when the configure script runs for gedit, it finds all of the correct files. So.. any ideas? there was discussion about a similar situation earlier, and Jonathan Chocron said the following: ** OK, you must wonder where it comes from : simply enough, from the stage3 installs which uses a i586 optimized bootstrap for compatibility issues. You can see that in your /usr directory, you should see a directory named : i586-pc-linux-gnu. You need to bootstrap again (I did, worked like a charm, ALTHOUGH you should be warned that this will overwrite /etc/group, /etc/passwd, /etc/rc.conf and /etc/make.conf if you do not set the CONFIG_PROTECT variable properly). You can boostrap from within your system, or from the chrooted environment on the LiveCD. This should get things right. Last I would advise against using an unstable version of gcc (masked version) when bootstrapping as I tried and it rendered my system utterly unusable (no more emerge, ebuild or any command that relied on python would work), forcing me to reinstall. ** I personally didn't want to bootstrap, since I had just gotten my server up and running. What i did was, I made a symlink from i586-pc-linux-gnu to i686-pc-linux-gnu. seems to work fine for the time being, but might blow up in my face later. Well serves me right I suppose. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Date for Final Release?
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 02:05:07 -0500 Jeffrey Soldan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not I understand your question about the final release of Gentoo... If you mean then the RC will be dropped... I dunno but I'd guess when they get rid of the bugs. One thing that is good to remember is that the RC or final isn't for Gentoo as a distribution, it's for the install-CD. Gentoo isn't one of those 'New release out!! Gotta update now!!' -distributions. Yes there are almost as many 'updates' as you wish, but re-install/upgrade form cd is never required. I'll bet that when the 'Gentoo install-CD 1.4 final' comes out, my machines(installed form 1.2, 1.4_rc2 and 1.4_rc4 cds) have already newer software, than the 'new final'. -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Approach to Massive Download (NWN Linux Client)
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:26:01 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just looking into what's needed to run the complete Linux Neverwinter Nights client, and was a little taken aback by the 1.13 GB (yes, GB) download that's required. It's finally out! Great! I'm wondering: is there a preferred strategy or client program that people prefer for downloads that they're fairly confident they won't complete in one shot? I'm using downloader 4 x form X: emerge d4x and prozilla from the commandline: emerge prozilla but what we would really need, is a bittorrent-link ;) -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Date for Final Release?
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:10:32 -0500 Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All Linux distributions have the same goal ... to release a stable performing linux. The difference is only in method. Yes, and as I see it Gentoo has already done that. Now matter the means, the goal is the same, and Gentoo clearly remains goal-less at this time. How about keeping the distribution stable? And at some point releasing a new _install-CD 1.4_. If there is a goal, what is it? (Don't say 1.4 ... because that isn't a goal, but rather simply a name for the goal). 1.4 is nothing but an version number for the install-CD. Gentoo linux will be the same after one 'emerge world -u' whether you install it form 1.4_RC1 or the final 1.4 CD. I assume the goal with the 1.4 CD is to offer the most glitchless install experience with the newest stable software. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge link error due to i586-pc-linux-gnu/i686-pc-linux-gnu mismatch
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:56:46 +0200 Jonathan Chocron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'va had the exact same problem. Yeah, me too. OK, you must wonder where it comes from : simply enough, from the stage3 installs which uses a i586 optimized bootstrap for compatibility issues. You can see that in your /usr directory, you should see a directory named : i586-pc-linux-gnu. Damn. I searched and searched, but didn't find the answer. Well here it is. You need to bootstrap again Oh, man. I just got my server running and online. I really don't want to take it offline for bootstrapping. Well I did kind of solve it the ugly/stupid/unadvisable/you name it way. I simply symlinked the i686-pc-linux-gnu as i586-pc-linux-gnu. Seems to work for the time being. Any drawbacks with this 'solution'? -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lmule - is it just me? or....
On 10 Jun 2003 13:40:46 -0700 Spundun Bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I tried to updatge lmule today and it choked in compile. Yeah, I've got this problem too. Haven't given it much thought, since I don't use it that much anyway ... There seems to be conflict between wxWindows definitions and glib-1.2 definitions This gives me an idea though... I presume that you've got the GTK2 USE flag set? Yes? I could be that lmule needs wxWindows compiled against GTK1.x. I'm not really sure about that, but I've had similar problems with audacity. Audacity won't compile against wxWindows, compiled against GTK2, but when I compiled wxWindows against GTK1.x, it messed up some other apps. Those other apps were more important than audacity so audacity had to go. Of course I could be terribly wrong. I am wondering why nobody else is getting this same error. _o/ -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java Plugin on Mozilla and Konqueror
On 11 Jun 2003 12:09:22 +0100 Dan Fairs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I do like to have the Sun JDK for the rest of the system. Is it possible to install the blackdown JDK, and point Moz at the Blackdown plugin, but use the Sun JDK as my 'day-to-day' JDK? Hmmm... Yes it is. The problem is that binaries compiled with different versions of GCC (old 2.x.x, 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2.x) are not compatible. You've without a doubt compiled Mozilla with GCC 3.2.x and the pre-compiled sun-jdk has been compiled with some older version of GCC, so they won't work together. There are two different solutions to your situation: you can either emerge the new Blackdown java for Mozilla, and use the pre-compiled sun java for everything else (except if you want to compile OO, since it seems to want blackdown java), or you can do what I did and compile the sun java yourself and use it for everything. It is in the portage: emerge sun-j2sdk or something like that... -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I permanently accept unstable ebuilds?
I'd like to test gcc-3.3 and emerged sys-devel/gcc/gcc-3.3.ebuild. However, when I try to recompile another package, emerge -p would downgrade gcc first. How can I keep gcc-3.3, without upgrading all other packages by issuing ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86? Best regards, You could pin it in the world file Open /var/cache/edb/world, find the line that says: sys-devel/gcc if it doesn'tt exist, create one. Modify it to say: =sys-devel/gcc-3.3 or the exact version you have installed like: =sys-devel/gcc-3.3-r3 using: =sys-devel/gcc-3.3 might also work. -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CDRW
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003 18:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Rev. Jeffrey Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Jamie Dobbs wrote: 1/ you format the CDRW using a special format that allows you to use it just like a 'big' floppy, the downside of this is that it is very very slow (and I don't know how to do it under Linux) That's called packet writing. Yes it is. I wouldn't waste my time unless you regularly need incremental writes, and even then you might be better just using multiple sessions. No you wouldn't. Each session burned to CD, uses 15Mb for it's own purposes. Meaning that if you write small files often, you'd be most definitely saving space with packet writing. Formatting the disc to use packet writing also uses some space, but if you write more than 2-3 sessions per disk, you'd be wasting space. -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage query
On 31 May 2003 08:11:48 +0100 Dhruba Bandopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 04:49, Tom Eastman wrote: Just a quick question... if, by some chance, the entire /usr/portage directory is deleted, is an 'emerge sync' still enough to restore it? Or are there other files in there that emerge depends on. Yes. There is the world file so you would need to run 'regenworld'. ?? Isn't the world-file in /var/cache/edb/ ? I'm not home so I can't check it. I believe emerge sync is enough, but you can always try: mv /usr/portage /usr/portage_bup -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java plugin w/ Mozilla 1.2.1?
On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 00:02:35 -0800 Alex Combas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the problem is that those versions of jave are not compiled with gcc-3.2 or greater. Try installing a version of java that has been compiled on your computer with your copy of gcc. There is java sources for both blackdown and sun in portage, you will need to turn on ~x86 in order to access them though. Check the forums, this has been discused a lot. I believe that the blackdown 1.4.1 binaries are compiled with gcc 3.2, so it is not really needed to compile your own java although I've done it. -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo goes to rpm?
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003 08:51:50 -0600 Matt Baran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: APRIL FOOLS! (I hope) Yes it is, for sure. It even says so in the web-version of the newsletter: http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030401-newsletter.xml -- Janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cool games WAS [Re: [gentoo-user] still usingredmond for this]
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:41:40 -0800 Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 March 2003 03:07 am, Sigurd Stordal wrote: good linux game? I would recommend TuxRacer. Well, I just have to write in that the FrozenBubble is not only extremely fun, but the music is good enough to leave just to rock out to! Check it out too!-- I'd say give crack-attack a try (my personal best is 1618 and my girlfriend has scored 2992, try to beat that ;) Personally I'm waiting for the NeverWinterNights Linux-client to become available. I've already bought the windows discs for the serial. Oh man... just checked: NWN Beta2 is out! Can't wait to get home... -- janne So act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world. - Immanuel Kant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
