Re: [gentoo-user] rp-pppoe
On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 07:57:14AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote:
Better solution:
Write an initscript for it
Like this one :)
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#!/sbin/runscript
depend() {
need net
}
start() {
ebegin Starting ADSL
/usr/sbin/adsl-start /dev/null 21
eend $? Failed to start ADSL
}
stop() {
ebegin Stopping ADSL
/usr/sbin/adsl-stop /dev/null 21
eend $? Failed to stop ADSL
}
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Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?
Sorta-new-question here... my ISP is offering a wireless setup, and my mom prefers that because it will let us avoid drilling holes. The only setup I know for this is with an external router... some questions: - Are there any problems with wireless NICs and Linux? Will they be configured any differently from ordinary NICs, short of building new kernel modules? I am aware that many wireless routers have additional Ethernet ports, but I don't know exactly what I'm getting yet. - Is it possible to set up a PC as a wireless router? This is undesired, since I'll have to leave it on for the other computer to have a connection, but it might be what my ISP is offering. If so, are there any special Linux-related problems? Is the configuration any different? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:01:12AM +0100, MAL wrote: I'm afraid you can't connect a modem to a hub (in this circumstance) :) If your ADSL modem only has an ethernet port, your linux box will need two network cards. One to connect the PC to the hub, and one to connect the PC to the modem. If the modem has a USB port, and it's one of the (relatively few) ADSL modems with a Linux driver, you could connect it via USB and thus avoid the need for a second network card. No USB ports here... neither on the modem nor the computer. To actually get the second PC on the internet, your Linux PC will need to have the following enabled in the kernel: Networking options --- IP: Netfilter Configuration --- Connection tracking [M] IP tables support [M] Full NAT [M] MASQUERADE target support [M] Can't see those. I can see Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains) though. vanilla-sources-2.4.21. Your Linux machine needs the above options to perform NAT.. specifically IP masquerading. This allows both your PCs to have LAN IP addresses, (192.168.0.x), but both use the internet, (by having their IP address 'translated' into your ADSL IP address, and back). You may well also want some firewalling options, so enable at least: Networking options --- IP: Netfilter Configuration --- Packet filtering [M] You then need some way of enabling NAT, (and possibly firewall). There are some graphical firewall setup programs, but I think it's easier and faster to get it up and running with a simple pre-written script. I find this one satisfactory for home use: http://firewall.lutel.pl/ Simply fill in your various interface names, and specify what ports you want available to the internet and the LAN, then run it with ./firewall start. Note: you will need to have recompiled your kernel and the modules, and rebooted, before this can do it's job. The last step is to set up your two PCs /internal/ interfaces. For such a small network, I would simply give your Linux PC the IP: 192.168.0.254 and your Win98 machine: 192.168.0.1 How do I do this? My PC seems to automatically retrieve its IP address. Is it done through adsl-setup? x.x.x.254 is commonly used for a gateway machine on LAN, and this is exactly what your Linux PC will be. You will also need to set your Win98 box's Default Gateway to 192.168.0.254, and it's DNS servers to whatever your ISP gave you. Sounds horribly complex, but I'll try it. I'll let the people from my ISP set it up using Windows first, so I'll know I have the hardware connected right. By the way - why is it specifically 192.168.0.x? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:16:52PM +0100, MAL wrote: Ok, so you either need a second network card, or use the dubious method of doing to accross a hub as described elsewhere in this thread :) I'll ask my ISP how to do this. I sure hope I can do it dubiously... sounds easier :) Can't see those. I can see Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains) though. vanilla-sources-2.4.21. Yes, my mistake. If you enable 'Network packet filtering', the option I mentioned above will magically appear :) Got it, thanks. How do I do this? My PC seems to automatically retrieve its IP address. Is it done through adsl-setup? It's getting an external IP address from the modem via PPP. This is correct, and I assume this is being assigned to your eth0 interface? Nope... it gets assigned to ppp0. eth0 doesn't seem to have an IP address. eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:B4:B6:17:35 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:68147 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:53293 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:17 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:76868013 (73.3 Mb) TX bytes:6387245 (6.0 Mb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe400 That's odd though... isn't it supposed to be a micro-LAN between the PC and the modem, in such a way that I could telnet into the modem for maintenance? You should set your _second_ network card's IP address to 192.168.0.254 See the Gentoo documentation on how to do this. Makes sense. And then the PCs can just see each other? If I set Samba up here and configure my printer, the win98 box will be able to see it? 192.168.x.x is a range of IP addresses, reserved for LAN use. That is, they are not valid on the internet. There is also 172.16.x.x-172.31.x.x and 10.x.x.x , but these are for larger local networks. I see. This also means, I guess, that my other box won't have an external IP address (nor will it have a connection at all when this one is off). That's how my old cable ISP worked... we had 10.x.x.x addresses (which sucked if I wanted to have an FTP server for friends on a different ISP). Thanks for all of your help! -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 09:07:14AM -0400, Ernie Schroder wrote: On Wednesday 25 June 2003 01:29 am, Ohad Lutzky wrote: I'm a total networking noob, but I'd like to set up a home network. My current PC (running Linux) is connected over ADSL using rp-pppoe. It has a printer as well, running on CUPS. My other PC, an old Packard Bell (bleh) P133 running (walking, rather) Win98. How would I set this up? The only home LAN setup I've ever seen is connecting the hub to the modem, and then connecting PCs to the hub. But my ADSL connection requires me to log in (rp-pppoe takes care of that). Also, will the two PCs see each other on a local network? Or will they have to communicate over the external network? If so, how will they be assigned different IPs? Probably the most painless method to do this would be to purchase a router/hub or a router and a hub. The router takes care of the log in and DHCP plus affords some firewall capability. Router setup is a snap Linksys for one comes basicly pre-configured. You access it from a browser and you really only need to enter user name and password, set your protocol and change the default password to access the router and you're good to go. Sounds excellent! This is what I thought a router did, and then people showed me a tiny little thing called a switch, and said that I was talking about that... And now, a stream of questions: Which of these are the same? Hub, Switch, Router (I'm guessing hub and switch) How does it all connect? Do I connect the router to the modem, and then that to a hub/switch which all the ethernet cables go to? Or is it something totally different? Any particular problems with Linux? Doesn't sound like there should be, but still. If I set this up, I will basically only need to use dhcpcd here, and have the other PC set to get its IPs automatically, right? What kind of IPs will I get? Will it be possible to have external IPs, so people can still reach my ftp server? Will I have to choose on of the PCs to get an external IP, or will the router know which one needs it? Will both computers even be able to use the same ports at the same time? And last but not least: How much [more] will it cost? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 04:14:33PM +0100, Jan Drugowitsch wrote: Content-Description: signed data On Wednesday 25 June 2003 12:36, Ohad Lutzky wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 12:16:52PM +0100, MAL wrote: Ok, so you either need a second network card, or use the dubious method of doing to accross a hub as described elsewhere in this thread :) I'll ask my ISP how to do this. I sure hope I can do it dubiously... sounds easier :) I would read the ISP's policy before asking about connecting a network to your ADSL connection. Many of the ISP's I know do not allow that. Although asking itsself wouldn't do any bad they could get aware of the fact that you are trying to do that. That would not be worrying either if I wouldn't have read about a method about half a year ago which describes a method of how to detect such a network by tracing IDs of TCP packages. This could put you on the ISP's watchlist and this wouldn't be a good thing. So before contacting the ISP: Read their policy! It's OK... actually, they're the ones who offered it. I'm just looking for some knowledge about it first. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Yahoo Messenger, gnome :-/
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:31:47AM -0300, Norberto BENSA wrote: Content-Description: signed data Do I *really* need all this just for ymessenger? Is there any other IM app that can handle Yahoo IM protocol? I think Kopete has a Y!IM plugin. Also: I'm not sure, but I think Jabber has gateways to Y!IM, so you can use whatever Jabber client you like (Psi for KDE). -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 08:27:34AM -0700, Gzim Hoxha wrote: And last but not least: How much [more] will it cost? I got a rounter for $29.95 (Canadian)!! It's not expensieve :) That really sounds cheap. Was it a linksys? If not, what interface do you use to configure it? (Please say web, I love web interfaces! :) ) Also to learn more about how this stuffworks go to: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/router.htm and when you get there if you wanna know about switches just search for them; is a great site ;) It certainly is. Thanks for the tip! I've never thought of looking there. Here's what I understand so far: In the setup I've seen, where two PCs are connected over a switch to a modem, it isn't really a network - the PCs can only talk to the modem one at a time, and it works as if the PC was connected directly. Not good for my purpose. However, if you stick a router between the switch and the modem (or get a router that has a builtin switch), you basically have a simple network, in which the computers can communicate with each other directly, and can talk to the modem (indirectly) at the same time. That still leaves me with some interal/external IP questions: I have an FTP server running on this box, and I'd still like people outside to be able to reach it. Will outside computers still be able to communicate directly with mine? How will they distinguish between them? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:16:07PM +0100, MAL wrote: On your router, you will be able to point certain ports to certain machines on the LAN. Unless your router has some clever programs installed on it, people will need to use active FTP to connect to your server, (ie. not passive ftp). All you need to do is forward port 21 on the router, to port 21 on your PC. Note: you will need to get a router that can do NAT. NAT... that term is new to me, but I've seen it on VMWare. I'm guessing that it means Network Address Translation. I can see that the Linksys routers can do it. So that basically means that on the internet, only the router will be seen, but it'll look as if it's running an FTP server? And why will this have to be active FTP? If the port is forwarded directly, won't it work just like it used to? And what of port 80, and the other regular-use ports? Surely I'll want several machines using those at the same time... how will that work? Sorry I'm being so annoying... I hate it when I do something with my computer that I don't understand 100%. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 10:29:08PM +0100, MAL wrote: Ohad Lutzky wrote: NAT... that term is new to me, but I've seen it on VMWare. I'm guessing that it means Network Address Translation. I can see that the Linksys routers can do it. So that basically means that on the internet, only the router will be seen, but it'll look as if it's running an FTP server? And why will this have to be active FTP? If the port is forwarded directly, won't it work just like it used to? And what of port 80, and the other regular-use ports? Surely I'll want several machines using those at the same time... how will that work? Second point first... if you have several machines running a webserver on port 80, you'll have to choose a different port on your router to map to each. (one can use 80 of course). If you want each machine to be visible on port 80, either get separate IPs for each machine, (more expense/different ISP service), or combine them all into one webserver running virtual domains. Same with all other single port protocols, (SSH, IRC, Telnet, SMTP, etc.). FTP however, is different. Makes sense. So what I'm looking at is making it seem to the outside world like I'm running just one PC (and I certainly wouldn't have two daemons running on the same port on one PC). Due to the age of FTP, it was designed with a different philosophy to single port networking approaches. When you connect to an FTP server, (on port 21 usually.. unless the server has chosen to use a different 'control' port), you speak plain text to it. Once you are ready to recieve a listing of files, you tell the server your IP, and a local port you have opened for it to connect to, (varies from connect to connect, but usually around the 32000+ range). The FTP server then connects to that port on your machine, and sends you data. This is Active mode FTP. Passive FTP, works in a similar way, but instead of you telling the server where it can stick it's data, the server will tell you to connect to it and will let you know what port. Again, this is a dynamic port and usually a FTP server will have a specific range that it will use. That explains a lot of problems I had with my old ISPs. We didn't get external IPs back then, so we had to use passive FTP (as clients). So, if your ftp server allows you to specify the range of ports it can use for passive ftp, then you should be able to tell your router to forward that range of ports to your FTP server machine, thereby enabling passive FTP. I don't think that would be much of a problem. Worst case, I can run my machine on DMZ (de-militarized zone), so it gets all of the ports. Hope that explains it enough for you. Sure does. You've been more helpful than an hour of TechTV! :) Thanks for putting up with me. Now I just need some cash... -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Networking with ADSL?
I'm a total networking noob, but I'd like to set up a home network. My current PC (running Linux) is connected over ADSL using rp-pppoe. It has a printer as well, running on CUPS. My other PC, an old Packard Bell (bleh) P133 running (walking, rather) Win98. How would I set this up? The only home LAN setup I've ever seen is connecting the hub to the modem, and then connecting PCs to the hub. But my ADSL connection requires me to log in (rp-pppoe takes care of that). Also, will the two PCs see each other on a local network? Or will they have to communicate over the external network? If so, how will they be assigned different IPs? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:38:24AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using ntpdate to set our linux server to get time form a utc server, however this package does not seem to be available form portage... anybody know if this package is buried within another package? Or if there is a comparable package that I could use? Thanks- Ryan In addition to ntp, a smaller, comparable program is rdate. It doesn't do fallback servers by itself, but can be made to with some simple scripting. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why keeping old kernel sources?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 05:37:21PM +0200, Lars Juel Nielsen wrote: did you do 'make mrproper' between the compiles when it didn't work? it cleans up so it should be like a newly emerged tree. By the way, what's the difference between that and make distclean? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remote X session
As the user running the current X session: $ xhost +B On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:39:25PM +0100, Paulo da Silva wrote: I have 2 pcs running linux gentoo. 1. Computador A: X :1.0 DISPLAY=:1.0 xhost +B 2. Computer B DISPLAY=A:1.0 xterm I get the folowing messages: xterm: unable to open display A:1.0 Xlib: connection to A:1.0 refused by server Xlib: No protocol specified How can I do this? TIA Paulo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kbd vs. console-tools
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 11:14:20AM +0300, Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, I have the following question: Is there any specific reason, why gentoo is by default shipped with rather outdated kbd package and not with console-tools? Actually, the question is: if I replace kbd with console-tools, will it cause any catastrophic problems on my machine? Regards, L. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Seems that /etc/init.d/consolefonts comes ready-built for console-tools as well as kbd... the latter works MUCH better with Hebrew (kbd's Hebrew fonts didn't have linedrawing characters!). I don't know if I can unmerge kbd safely though... anyone care to try? :) -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kbd vs. console-tools
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 03:14:51PM +0300, Leonid Podolny wrote: My situation is much worse: this box is console-only. I need to read English, Hebrew and Russian, and if I also want to use ICQ, then i also need to transcode Russian to Windows codeset. Seems that /etc/init.d/consolefonts comes ready-built for console-tools as well as kbd... the latter works MUCH better with Hebrew (kbd's Hebrew fonts didn't have linedrawing characters!). Sounds pretty bad dude... how long did it take you to get that working? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kbd vs. console-tools
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 03:29:09PM +0300, Ohad Lutzky wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 03:14:51PM +0300, Leonid Podolny wrote: My situation is much worse: this box is console-only. I need to read English, Hebrew and Russian, and if I also want to use ICQ, then i also need to transcode Russian to Windows codeset. Seems that /etc/init.d/consolefonts comes ready-built for console-tools as well as kbd... the latter works MUCH better with Hebrew (kbd's Hebrew fonts didn't have linedrawing characters!). Sounds pretty bad dude... how long did it take you to get that working? By the way, what do you use for an appointment calendar / todo list? I'm using plain text files right now, but they're getting pretty hectic. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I get a floppy bootdisk/image?
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 08:35:43PM +, Florian Huber wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:52:36 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of Bjarke Bruun [EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi there I have a scsi cdrom drive that won't boot bootable cdroms and I'd like to try Gentoo so is there a floppy (1.44Mb) bootdisk image somewhere that I can get started? You could boot _any_ linux distribution that fits on a single floppy as long as it has networking support. There is nothing special about the gentoo live cd - it is just a kind of rescue cd with a gentoo splash image ;) Just google (www.google.com/linux) for an one-disk distribution or search on ibiblio.org. My recommendation: tomsrtbt (Tom's Root Boot - never leave home without it :) ). Remember, you need networking support and support for the file system you want gentoo to run with (ext2/3, reiserfs, xfs, jfs, ...). I would suggest starting with ext2 and convert it later on to ext3 (tune2fs). Or you could use whatever operating system you already have installed to download the tarball, if you can't get networking up with the single-floppy-linux (tomsrtbt worked for me, but I had a cable modem, and now I have PPPOE ADSL). As for ext3 - that's what I use, but people say its performance is horrible when compared to other file systems... is that true? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Starting gentoo without xdm
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:37:14AM +0200, Sebastian Hungerecker wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 01:29:04 +0100 Jan Drugowitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would anyone know a better possibility to do this without modifying scripts Create a second runlevel and add all services to it, which are in the current runlevel except xdm. Then add an entry to grub, which boots in this new-created runlevel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list That sounds like the right way to do it. Can you give an example of the right kernel parameters? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anti-virus f-prot
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 12:23:07PM +0200, JG wrote: forgot to mention, that i was using the older program version 3.13. i just saw on their homepage that there is v4.0 available and upgraded. here the check-updates script is now a perl-script. but again the auto-update is working fine... JG Just curious... just how many viruses for Linux are there out there? Or does F-Prot scan for Windows viruses that pass through it over the network? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE and cursor size
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 09:19:10PM -0700, Klaus D. Neumann wrote: How did you install Xfce4? Is there an ebuild? Yessiree, bob. The ebuild is called xfce4 (not xfce), and is arch-masked. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] printer module
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:47:07AM +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Hello all, I am having difficulties setting up my printer. It is a parallel port hpdeskjet 840c. The following kernel options are activated as modules: CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=m CONFIG_PRINTER=m Now if I type modprobe parport or modprobe parport_pc, it works fine, but: bash-2.05b# modprobe printer modprobe: Can't locate module printer Umm... why would you want to do that? Once you modprobe parport, /dev/parport0 should show up. Then set CUPS (or whatever spooling daemon it is you use) to use that. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] printer module
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 11:10:31AM +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Le jeudi 19 juin ? 11 h. 17, Ohad Lutzky a ?crit notamment: On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:47:07AM +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Hello all, I am having difficulties setting up my printer. It is a parallel port hpdeskjet 840c. The following kernel options are activated as modules: CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=m CONFIG_PRINTER=m Now if I type modprobe parport or modprobe parport_pc, it works fine, but: bash-2.05b# modprobe printer modprobe: Can't locate module printer Umm... why would you want to do that? Once you modprobe parport, /dev/parport0 should show up. Then set CUPS (or whatever spooling daemon it is you use) to use that. Well, I 'modprobe parport', and then: bash-2.05b# ls -l /dev/parport0 ls: /dev/parport0: Aucun fichier ou r?pertoire de ce type bash-2.05b# ls -l /dev/parport* ls: /dev/parport*: Aucun fichier ou r?pertoire de ce type bash-2.05b# ls -l /dev/lp* ls: /dev/lp*: Aucun fichier ou r?pertoire de ce type So isn't there a problem? Could you translate the error message please? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pb with KG7 Lite
Do you have a spooling system, such as CUPS, up and running? If so, did you configure it to use the device that was created? Try running a test print through that. On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 11:15:31PM +0200, Bastux wrote: Hello, I'm using Gentoo and try to make my printer work. I'm a linux gentoo user since a few month and I found the problem was coming from my motherboard, a ABIT KG7 LITE. Apparently, in the BIOS, i configured the IO at 378, the irq at 7 and the dma at 3. so I load : modprobe -k parport modprobe -k parport_pc modprobe -k lp a file /dev/lp0 - /dev/printers/0 is created (good sign :)) But I can't do nothing with it. When I try to print, the job is created, it stays a moment and go away, but nothing get out from my printer :( When I replace the line with modprobe -k parport_pc by : modprobe -k parport_pc io=378 irq=7 dma=3 nothing changes. I wonder how to get my LPT working. N.B.: It works under windows :( My printer is the unique reason why I keep a windoz. Please, if you have, like me, a KG7 Lite Motherboard and succeeded in making your printer work, or if you see any solution, HELP ME!!! :) Bastux -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] parallel port printer
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:00:11PM -0700, Gzim Hoxha wrote: Hi, I trying to follow the printing doc in the gentoo website, I did merge cups and foomatic, and I thought I did enable support for parallel ports [as a module]. But when I check dmesg it says: lp: driver loaded but no device found And it doesn't show that the printer is recognized or anything! So Can someone quickly just tell me what I should enable as a module in the kernel so the parallel port printer will work. Basically, it's in the main menu: Parallel port support. Check PC-Style hardware in there. You can build those as modules, and then you'll need to modprobe them, but if they're built into the kernel, they should just work. What does 'ls /dev/parport?' return? Thanks, ZiM P.S.: Could it just need to modprobe some module?! __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Wow, you use Yahoo! Mail to read the mailing list? :) -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The Gimp and TrueType fonts...
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:14:34PM -0700, Timothy Grant wrote: I most certainly did! On Tuesday 17 June 2003 07:00 am, Erland Nylend wrote: * Timothy Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I got the FreeType Filter working. Now I'd like to be able to use the TT fonts in the logo-maker in script-fu, but the font dialog there doesn't show the TT fonts. Any suggestions? Did you 'emerge gimp-freetype' as Ohad Lutzky suggested? Actually, that won't help you much there. Gimp-Freetype adds a plugin in the Render filters for rendering text using Freetype. However, normal Gimp text rendering is done directly through X - not (necessarily) through Freetype, regardless of the plugin. I guess that logo-maker uses that. Anyway, to get your fonts in The Gimp, you'll need to add them to /etc/X11/XF86Config, as FontPaths. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need to stop gdm changing ownership of /dev/v4l/* on login.
Might be in /etc/security/console.perms On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:01:48PM -0700, Arthur Britto wrote: Hi, How can I stop gdm from changing the ownership of /dev/v4l/* on login? Thanks in advance, -Arthur -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] parallel port printer
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:18:32AM -0700, Gzim Hoxha wrote: --- Ohad Lutzky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:00:11PM -0700, G?zim Hoxha wrote: Hi, I trying to follow the printing doc in the gentoo website, I did merge cups and foomatic, and I thought I did enable support for parallel ports [as a module]. But when I check dmesg it says: lp: driver loaded but no device found And it doesn't show that the printer is recognized or anything! So Can someone quickly just tell me what I should enable as a module in the kernel so the parallel port printer will work. Basically, it's in the main menu: Parallel port support. Check PC-Style hardware in there. You can build those as modules, and then you'll need to modprobe them, but if they're built into the kernel, they should just work. What does 'ls /dev/parport?' return? # ls /dev/parport ls: /dev/parport: No such file or directory # Thank you for your help Ohad :) Actually, it's $ ls /dev/parport? *with* the question mark. The question mark stands for a signle character wildcard (like *, but for one mandatory character), and in this case it's a number, probably 0. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] parallel port printer
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 05:24:55AM -0700, Gzim Hoxha wrote: --- Ohad Lutzky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:18:32AM -0700, G?zim Hoxha wrote: --- Ohad Lutzky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:00:11PM -0700, G?zim Hoxha wrote: Hi, I trying to follow the printing doc in the gentoo website, I did merge cups and foomatic, and I thought I did enable support for parallel ports [as a module]. But when I check dmesg it says: lp: driver loaded but no device found And it doesn't show that the printer is recognized or anything! So Can someone quickly just tell me what I should enable as a module in the kernel so the parallel port printer will work. Basically, it's in the main menu: Parallel port support. Check PC-Style hardware in there. You can build those as modules, and then you'll need to modprobe them, but if they're built into the kernel, they should just work. What does 'ls /dev/parport?' return? # ls /dev/parport ls: /dev/parport: No such file or directory # Thank you for your help Ohad :) Actually, it's $ ls /dev/parport? *with* the question mark. The question mark stands for a signle character wildcard (like *, but for one mandatory character), and in this case it's a number, probably 0. Hmm, $ ls /dev/parport? ls: /dev/parport?: No such file or directory $ I also did cd /usr/src/linux make xconfig Chose parallel port support and built pc-style in the kernel, saved make modules modules_install First of all, yes, you do need to enable parallel port support under character devices. What about the bzImage? That's the kernel itself, which you built into the kernel, and you didn't recompile it. :) # make dep make bzImage modules modules_install (modules and modules_install aren't necessary if you didn't add any new modules) # mount /boot # cp /boot/bzImage /boot/bzImage.orig (That's for backup) # cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot Restart, and you should be good to go :) but the dmesg still did show that a printer was detected. Did I do it correctly? Note: in redhat for some reason the printer always worked, I don't know why how!! __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mozilla XPrint
Printing under Mozilla is problematic in Hebrew and many other non-iso-8859-1 character sets. The problem is with Mozilla's Postscript output (looks like it doesn't write the fonts to the file or something, I'm not an expert on this). Bugzilla recommends XPrint as a solution, but seeing that it's not in portage, and there are quite a few Israeli Gentoo users, I was thinking that maybe there's a better workaround. Any tips? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] XFCE and cursor size
I've recently installed XFCE4, and am loving it (switched over from fluxbox). It still needs some work, but it fixes two fluxbox bugs which really annoy me: gkrellm transparency, and no charset support in Freetype. I use the Gentoo cursor set, and usually it's very small - I guess 16x16. However, in XFCE, it becomes about twice as big. This is desirable - how can it be achieved? I tried with .Xresources and .Xdefaults, but had no success (I can't even change the cursor set with those, I use ~/.icons/default). -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] extend a running shell command
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 01:15:11PM +, Christopher Egner wrote: You could use or ||. works only if the return is zero, usually meaning everything worked in the first program. The second, || only works if the return is non zero. You guys aren't getting it... the command is already running. He's thinking along the lines of this: Okay, I'm downloading this file, it's not resumable and already at 60%. It'll take a few hours more to download and quite a while to untar it. I'm going to sleep now... I wish I could tell it to untar once it's done downloading. Too bad I can't start over without losing all the progress it already made. As for the solution - I got nothing concrete, but here's my idea: Figure out the PID of the process you want to be finished. Then create a script that loops while the PID is existant, and once it's not - does whatever it is that you want to do. Actually, that would be a one-liner. Here's my idea: First, get the PID using pidof. I'll call it $THE_PID Then what you need is this: $ while [ -e /proc/$THE_PID ]; do; sleep 5; done echo Process exited Of course, you change the echo command to whatever you want. There might be a better way to do this, I usually such at shell-fu, and the only thing I know about /proc is that if a process is running, it's PID is there. :) , but I'm not sure ho -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] extend a running shell command
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 01:39:23PM +, Christopher Egner wrote:
On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 18:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 08:05:33PM +0200, CrPy wrote:
Hi ng,
I'm using linux for many years, but there is a concern I have never solved.
Assuming, I have a command running in my nice bash shell and I do not know,
how long it will run. Now, I like to append an additional command , which
starts running after the first command has finished. How can I do this? Or is
it possible to do this at all? - After all it is Open Source ;-)
Here us an simplified example of what I want to do:
# sleep 100h
How long will it run? OK, I know it. But now, I like to halt my maschine after
the command has finished. And actually what I really want to have is this:
# sleep 100h; halt
Can I somehow extend the command line, after sleep is already running?
What you're asking is whether you can modify an input file that is being
read by a program. The answer is... sort of. Some applications, such
as tail -f, expect a file to grow as it is being read; that is, they
expect that more data might appear at the end after they have read EOF.
what you would need to do. Sorry I misread originally, is to setup a
linked queue within either the shell, or a program that has a linked
queue, I do it something like
struct node {
char *cmd;
node *next
}
node nodes[3];
nodes[0].cmd = sleep 10h;
nodes[0].next = node[1];
nodes[1].cmd = halt;
nodes[1].next = 0;
node *current;
current = node;
while (current)
{
execute(current.cmd);
current = current.next;
}
You'd have to have a function that could add something in while it was
running. But it wouldn't affect execution, just the node list. So
extending the list would be something like:
addnode (node *toadd, node *toaddafer)
{
node *tmp;
tmp = toaddafter.next;
toaddafter.next = toadd;
toadd.next = tmp;
}
This type of idea is relatively basic, the problem is that it USUALLY
isn't necessary.
That's pretty unusual stuff, however. Expecting a command interpreter like
bash to work this way is risky and non-portable. And in interpreters that
compile their scripts, like Perl, there's absolutely no way you could
do it. In general, it's a bad idea: once you've handed an input file to
an application (bash or any other application), you should leave it alone.
Nathan Meyers
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While this might work, it's still a preemptive solution. You have to do
it _before_ you started running the job, or else you'll be knocking on
your forehead. What do you make of my solution?
while [ -e /proc/$THE_PID ]; do sleep 5; done (next command)
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Re: [gentoo-user] extend a running shell command
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 04:01:17PM -0400, Mike Principito wrote: The solution outlined below reguarding checking the pid is a good solution to the problem. Another idea, which is a complete kludge, is just to type ahead in the terminal. Both solutions would work the same, but neither will know if the original command was sucessful or not. That's true. Redirection of output is a much bigger problem... screen solves it partially by letting you move programs around between terminals, but I don't think there's a way to capture the output (or status) of a process without, well, camping it. :) -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling 2.4.21 kernel
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:46:28PM +0100, Ricardo Nuno wrote: Hi, I got the kernel from kernel.org and i'm getting this error: douro:/usr/src/linux# make modules_install ln: when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory make: *** [_modinst_] Error 1 The right way to do this is: # make dep make bzImage modules modules_install Did you make all of the other stuff first? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can Linux web browsing be a complete experience?
Mac OS/X seems to have it right with running as a user with SU privileges all the time and then popping up a please enter your user password whenever a program needs to be installed. Not running as root, but running close enough to it that you can tasks like installing software much easier. I wish linux was a bit more like this. I was thinking more along the lines of running everyone as a normal users in the wheel group, but having linux automatically pop up something like the excellent (IMO) kdesu every time it needs root permissions for something, with a big fat warning sign on it and the text flashing in super-ugly red (WARNING: THIS MIGHT BE A VIRUS, AND IF IT IS AND YOU ENTER THE PASSWORD NOW, YOU'RE SCREWED). As for plugins, even better: Why not make a mozilla admin user? Then, if someone wants to install a plugin, they give that password, and you don't have to tell all of the users on your PC the root password. That'd work great for home systems. (Sign: If Mozilla asks you for an administrator password, it is MKB838741. But don't worry, if we get virii like this they'll only screw up Mozilla). -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] The Gimp and TrueType fonts...
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 09:47:04AM +0200, Marc Winiger wrote: Hi I had the same problem a long time. Now I found out, that there is an alternative way to use the truetype fonts. RightClick - Filters - Render - DynamicText FreeType Don't forget to emerge gimp-freetype first :) Marc * Timothy Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] [16.06.03 01:40]: I have successfully installed several TrueType fonts on my notebook computer. They are available to KDE and to many of my GTK apps (e.g., Gaim). However, they do not show up in my Gimp font selector. Can anyone explain this to me or explain how to make the fonts available? gimp.org says that if the fonts are available to X then they are available to The Gimp. But it's not working for me at the moment. -- /* When we have more time, we can teach the penguin to say * By your command or Activating turbo boost, Michael. */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/arch/sparc/prom/sun4prom.c -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 12:14:20AM -0300, Norberto BENSA wrote:
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Saturday 14 June 2003 12:00 am
Hi,
I started merging openoffice and it´s really taking
it´s time [about 5 hours] and it´s not yet done. My
question is why can´t I go to openoffice.org and
download the tar ball and install it from there, it
would have take no more than 10 minuts I believe. Is
it better to merge packages than to download and
install them manually? Why does it take longer to
merge a package then to insall it from source (e.g.
openoffice)?
Errr... OOo 1.0.3-r1 took 9hs to build here (p31g, 256mb)
emerge openoffice-bin if you don't want to wait. I did, but -bin-1.0.0 was
s slo :-/ Now 1.0.3 compiled from source it really fast! :-)
Norberto
Is it really that much faster? I have a PIII 450mhz machine (5 hours?
heh, I wouldn't even expect KDE to compile in that time), so I've been
using the binary ebuilds so far. Also, IIRC, compiling OO from source
strips out the optimization. The OpenOffice.org source is pretty
fragile, and optimizations (especially GCC3's) will give you a good
chance of a failed compilation.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Unicode from Mutt/Vim
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 12:28:35AM -0500, Richard Kilgore wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 08:48:21PM +0300, Ohad Lutzky wrote: For some reason, my mutt/vim combo is sending Hebrew mail as Unicode - this is undesired for me, as it makes it a hassle to change the encoding for many people (feel free to try and convince me otherwise). In vim, 'set encoding?' returns iso-8859-8 (the standard Hebrew encoding). What gives? Here's an example: ?? ?? What about 'set fileencoding?' No, no good. This example is send with fenc=iso-8859-8, and it's still unicode. (Proof, btw: The following string will be 5 letters long, but 10 bytes long). -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rebuilding everything
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:06:23AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: I am slowing making some progress and am looking at some of the security options. I didn't put them in USE before and need to do some rebuilding. How do you tell emerge to update everything and to rebuild everything regardless of it's update status? I think that would be emerge world Not sure though -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Unicode from Mutt/Vim
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 08:48:21PM +0300, Ohad Lutzky wrote: For some reason, my mutt/vim combo is sending Hebrew mail as Unicode - this is undesired for me, as it makes it a hassle to change the encoding for many people (feel free to try and convince me otherwise). In vim, 'set encoding?' returns iso-8859-8 (the standard Hebrew encoding). What gives? Here's an example: Resolved! VIM was spitting out iso-8859-8 just fine, but mutt was converting it. In .muttrc, I needed to add iso-8859-8 to the send_charset (default is us-ascii, then immediately utf8). Actually, the Hebrew sentence above should be fine now. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 11:36:35PM -0400, Ben Sparks wrote:
I have also found that OOo is much more stable when compiled from source
than when just installed with pre-compiled binaries. I have some pretty
aggressive Cflaggs (IMHO):
CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr
-falign-functions=64 -mfpmath=sse,387
And have not had any compile problems with OO, however that could be
because the ebuild disregarded them, but whatever it still compiled for
me. I would like to see a 1.1beta source ebuild instead of the binary
merge. Good luck, also if you leave it to compile at night when you
wake up it will be done, no lost productivity time ;)
Actually, I can see a 1.1 ebuild sitting here. I think I'll try it out -
I highly doubt that it'll finish at night though. As for the CFLAGS -
they're filtered out.
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 03:36, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 12:14:20AM -0300, Norberto BENSA wrote:
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Saturday 14 June 2003 12:00 am
Hi,
I started merging openoffice and it´s really taking
it´s time [about 5 hours] and it´s not yet done. My
question is why can´t I go to openoffice.org and
download the tar ball and install it from there, it
would have take no more than 10 minuts I believe. Is
it better to merge packages than to download and
install them manually? Why does it take longer to
merge a package then to insall it from source (e.g.
openoffice)?
Errr... OOo 1.0.3-r1 took 9hs to build here (p31g, 256mb)
emerge openoffice-bin if you don't want to wait. I did, but -bin-1.0.0 was
s slo :-/ Now 1.0.3 compiled from source it really fast! :-)
Norberto
Is it really that much faster? I have a PIII 450mhz machine (5 hours?
heh, I wouldn't even expect KDE to compile in that time), so I've been
using the binary ebuilds so far. Also, IIRC, compiling OO from source
strips out the optimization. The OpenOffice.org source is pretty
fragile, and optimizations (especially GCC3's) will give you a good
chance of a failed compilation.
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Re: [gentoo-user] openoffice.org
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:59:40PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a friend that recently compiled OO on his 400mhz AMD w/ 128MB of RAM. It took either 3 or 5 days ... we lost track :) ~Mike That's encouraging. I have a PIII 450mhz... oh well, at least I have 256MB of RAM. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Game compilation problems - Chromium Sniper
I've tried to emerge chromium and orbital-eunuchs-sniper. Chromium works, but with no audio - it complains that there was some error in the audio check process and gives up on it (works fine besides that). My audio setup is a simple one: OSS es1371 (Creative Vibra 128), no ALSA. I compiled with USE flags esd and arts, tried running with artsd running, with esd running, with neither running... nothing. Audio everywhere else is just fine - xmms, frozen-bubble, zsnes, wolfenstein_et. The problem with orbital-eunuchs-sniper is worse: It shows up a black window and changes the cursor to a round crosshair, and after about 1.2 seconds it disappears and segfaults with the SDL parachute. The only thing I can think of is that I recently upgraded my kernel from gentoo-source-2.4.20-r2 to gentoo-source-2.4.20-r5, and enabled preempt. Nothing should be wrong with the config, as I used make oldconfig, and I haven't been having problems otherwise. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cd-burning
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 10:54:07PM -0700, Gzim Hoxha wrote: Hi, I?m just trying to get my cd-rw working, I merged cdbakeoven, but for some reason it didn?t work and it?s hard to use. I?m looking for some cd burning software that?s very easy to use and nothing fancy/advanced; maybe something like Easy Cd-Creater [windows]. And hopefully I?ll get it working. I don't have a CD burner, but I have 3 alphanumeric characters for ya: k3b. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3 n00b questions (portage)
Another tip: emerge screen, and learn how to use it. I find this to be an incredibly useful tool; I might, for example, be emerging something big (read: KDE), and take breaks. Before I used screen, I'd leave it running on one of the virtual consoles and log out of X so other people can (slowly) use the computer, but then I'd have to switch to the VC to look at the progress. With screen, you can detach and reattach programs, so you can effectively move the compilation output back and forth between an Xterm and a vc. Screen also has a password lock, which is useful when you have young siblings. Screen, of course, is much more useful than that, but those are the features I find particularily useful with portage. On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 10:36:50AM +, Christopher Egner wrote: You can actually do this with more than one process, however, to find out what apps you've halted, run 'jobs' There is a number in backets, here's an example [EMAIL PROTECTED] disciplezero $ jobs [1]- Stopped cat [2]+ Stopped vi [EMAIL PROTECTED] disciplezero $ if I type fg, it starts up whatever has the plus (or bg for that matter) then what if I want to start up the first one?? Simple type %1. The way it works is you type percent followed by the job number. Enjoy On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 15:20, Kirtis Bakalarczyk wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 04:25:08 -0700 (PDT) G?zim Hoxha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.) If I were to do emerge kde then after say 10 packages, I have to stop, and do CTRL+C, what happenes? Is the package that was compiling gonna automatically finish compiling when I do emerge kde again? There's a better way to accomplish this.. Just press CTRL+Z during a compile (it can scew up downloads sometimes) which will stop the process but won't kill it. When you're ready to start it back up again use either the 'fg' (for foreground) command or the 'bg' (for background) command. Just make sure you don't close the terminal with the stopped process. KIRT __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] virtual/mta versus mod_php
I'd delete the ssmtp ebuilds and emerge rsync. Also check /etc/make.profile/virtuals... maybe virtual/mta is set to postfix. On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 08:57:23AM -0700, Joel Osburn wrote: Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The problem is that mod_php depends on a virtual/mta package. You have postfix installed which provides that package, but you masked the current versions (have a look at /usr/portage/net-mail/postfix to see all available versions, I think your masking needs to be updated). If you would not have postfix installed I think portage would install the default virtual/mta (net-mail/ssmtp), but this would be a problem too as it conflicts with postfix. I realize that mod_php depends on virtual/mta, but are you saying that dependencies can ONLY be satisfied by packages in portage, that once a package is removed from portage, even if it is currently installed, it will never again fulfill a dependency? I have other packages that depend on virtual/mta; if postfix suddenly is unable to fulfill the virtual/mta slot, shouldn't they too be complaining about this? If that is true, and since I've masked all versions of postfix in portage, then why doesn't it attempt to install net-mail/ssmtp? Instead it dumps the error message I quoted previously, notably saying that !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy virtual/mta have been masked. I'm still searching for the missing link, either in my knowledge or in the behaviour of this mod_php ebuild. -Joel Osburn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Unicode from Mutt/Vim
For some reason, my mutt/vim combo is sending Hebrew mail as Unicode - this is undesired for me, as it makes it a hassle to change the encoding for many people (feel free to try and convince me otherwise). In vim, 'set encoding?' returns iso-8859-8 (the standard Hebrew encoding). What gives? Here's an example: -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] screen (was: 3 n00b questions)
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 01:42:03PM -0400, Rev. Jeffrey Paul wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, MAL wrote: Wouldn't screen -d -RR be more suited? From the manpage: -d -R Reattach a session and if necessary detach or even create it first. -d -RR Reattach a session and if necessary detach or create it. Use the first session if more than one session is available. I don't like running more than one screen per userid per machine at any given time. You may be confusing sessions with windows. Also, what happens in this curcumstance if you open multiple X terminals? Then it closes the other one. The whole point of integrating screen so closely is so that you don't -need- more than one xterm or console session. Besides, running X is for wankers. Disagree on that last point, but this tip is cool as hell! Now my screen session follows me arroun :). I don't even have to detach manually! I'm starting new aterms now just to watch the previous ones close and the new ones pop up with the screen session :). -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] XCursor size
I really like the default Gentoo cursors (XFree-4.3.0-r2), but they're a tad small... I've been trying to resize them with ~/.Xresources and ~/.Xdefaults, but to no avail. My cursors are selected with ~/.icons/default (selecting them with ~/.Xresources or ~/.Xdefaults doesn't work either). Any tips? -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo package reviews
I don't know if you've all noticed the Gentoo Linux Stable (http://gentoo-stable.iq-computing.de/), but I think it's a good idea. Furthermore, I think we should have a section under gentoo.org itself, where we can write what we think about packages in portage. It should be either paragraph-long reviews or one-liners (Nice, but irssi is better. or Takes forever to compile!). This would be a good place to help choose, for example, an IRC client, instead of seeping through the millions of discussions on the forums. -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Whiteglass mouse cursor misplacement
Theofilos Intzoglou wrote: I've been using the whiteglass cursor theme on the new xfree server for some time now. It is very pretty but when the cursor changes to the pointer with the small clock (eg. when mozilla is loading a new page) the cursor appears to be misplaced a bit to the right. I have to put the cursor almost outside of the window to be able to use the scrollbar! It's a small glitch but if someone knows of a way to fix this I'd really appreciate him telling me how. Thanks in advance! Actually, I really dislike whiteglass... I use this theme, and I think you'll like it too: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=38963 -- Tactless If it wasn't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Trying xfree-4.3.0
Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote: I would like to try the new xfree. Is the best way still to ... %mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6-4.2 % ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge xfree ??? XFree 4.3.0 works just fine over here, using only the second command you specified. The first would be wise as a backup though, in which case I'd do the same for /etc/X11, but with cp -R rather than mv. -- - Tactless If it weren't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
