Re: [gentoo-user] Scanner Epson CX5400
On 12/18/05, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> On 12/17/05, smoke3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > Hello all, > > I've got a CX5400 EPSON All-in-One printer/scanner.> >> > I tried to configure sane-backends in order to get it working on my> > 2.6.14-gentoo (amd 64), but I think I'm doing something wrong. > > That is, when I type:> > # sane-find-scanner -q> >> > I get:> > found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [EPSON], product=0x0808 [USB MFP]) at> > libusb:002:003> > > > But, after configuring /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf with> > usb 0x04b8 0x0808> > According to the sane project, the CX5400 should be using the epson> backend, not epkowa:NO WAY though... I tried the same with epson backend, but# SANE_DEBUG_EPSON=128 scanimage -Lstill gives the same output as epkowa does:[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of epson to 128. [epson] sane_init: sane-backends 1.0.16 [epson] sane_init, ># epson.conf<[epson] sane_init, >#<[epson] sane_init, ># here are some examples for how to configure the EPSON backend< [epson] sane_init, >#<[epson] sane_init, ># SCSI scanner:< [epson] sane_init, >#scsi EPSON<[epson] sane_init, ># for the GT-6500, comment out the previous line and uncomment the following line:< [epson] sane_init, >#scsi<[epson] sane_init, >#< [epson] sane_init, ># Parallel port scanner:<[epson] sane_init, >#pio 0x278< [epson] sane_init, >#pio 0x378<[epson] sane_init, >#pio 0x3BC< [epson] sane_init, >#<[epson] sane_init, ># USB scanner:<[epson] sane_init, ># There are two different methods of configuring a USB scanner: libusb and the kernel module< [epson] sane_init, ># For any system with libusb support (which is pretty much any recent Linux distribution) the< [epson] sane_init, ># following line is sufficient. This however assumes that the connected scanner (or to be more< [epson] sane_init, ># accurate, it's device ID) is known to the backend.<[epson] sane_init, >usb 0x4b8 0x808< [epson] attach_one_usb(libusb:002:002)[epson] SANE Epson Backend v0.2.45 - 2000-01-09[epson] attach(libusb:002:002, 3) [epson] attach: opening libusb:002:002[epson] sane_init, ># For libusb support for unknown scanners use the following command< [epson] sane_init, ># usb <[epson] sane_init, ># e.g.:<[epson] sane_init, ># And for the scanner module, use the following configuration:< [epson] sane_init, >#usb /dev/usbscanner0<[epson] sane_init, >#usb /dev/usb/scanner0< [epson] sane_get_devices()No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and detected by thesane-find-scanner tool (if appropriate). Please read the documentation which came with this software (README, FAQ, manpages).Any other idea on what's going wrong?Thanks, S.G.-- You can't learn what you think you know.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] own ~/.gtkrc-2.0 for given app
Richard, It works! Big-wide-long thanks!! :-) Andrew === On Sunday 18 December 2005 06:07, Richard Fish wrote: === On 12/17/05, Andrew Gaydenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > I'd like to use "own" ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file for some given app. In another > words, I'd like to use differnet engine/fonts for this app. All other apps > must use "standard" ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file. I haven't tried this, but I think this should work: GTK2_RC_FILES=special_gtkrc special_app -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying email from dcron
Michael Sullivan wrote: I was having some problems with dcron randomly shutting down. I remerged dcron this afternoon and it's running just fine except that I get this annoying email every few minutes: unable to create /var/spool/cron/crontabs/michael.new: File exists The problem is that I can't delete the file because it doesn't actually exist. How do I get rid of this annoying error? Out of interest - have you tried creating the file, possibly with dcron permissions? Sound's like a badly written error message. -- Jonathan Wright ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ www.djnauk.co.uk -- 2.6.14-gentoo-r2-djnauk-b1 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2100+ up 13 days, 23:41, 2 users, load average: 0.17, 0.23, 0.17 -- cat /dev/random (because u never know, u may see something u like) -- "What are you trying to protect heterosexual marriages from? There isn't a limited amount of love in Iowa. It isn't a non-renewable resource. If Amy and Barbara or Mike and Steve love each other, it doesn't mean that John and Mary can't." ~ Ed Fallon -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
Ernie Schroder schreef:
> On Saturday 17 December 2005 22:57, a tiny voice compelled Richard
> Fish to write:
>
>> On 12/17/05, LostSon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday 17 December 2005 21:17, Nick Rout wrote:
>>>
I see a lot of people seem to have upgraded to kde 3.5.
I am currently running kde 3.4.1 (installed via kde-meta) and
stable is 3.4.3. However reports seem to be that 3.5.0 seems
good enuf to work with and I can't be bothered compiling 3.4.3
and then 3.5 later.
S, is there an easy way forward? I suspect I could enter a
large number of packages as ~x86 in
/etc/portage/package.keywords, or I could ask here if there is
an easier way.
>>>
>>> Hello Simply use
>>>
>>> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge kde
>>
>> Except the next time you want to "emerge -Duv world", it will want
>> to downgrade. Assuming you don't want a full ~x86 version, do:
>>
>> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p kde-meta
>>
>> This will give a list of all packages to add to
>> /etc/portage/package.keywords. You can even automate this with:
>>
>> for x in `ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -p kde-meta | awk '{ print
>> $4 }' | grep "/"` do echo "$x ~x86" >>
>> /etc/portage/package.keywords done
>
> Take it from me, do it as Richard says or you'll be in for a severe
> shock next emerge -ua world. I had to downgrade 72 packages that were
> brought in when I put ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line.
>
> Wait til Holly sees this
No, no, Ernie, you've covered the meat of any warning I would give with
relation to LostSon's suggestion, but I'll say it again:
Do *not* use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line except for an explicit
'testing' situation. Either with --pretend, to see what packages are
involved, or for a single/simple unstable package that you actively are
not sure if you want to keep, for which Portage's automatic downgrade
will not be a problem (because you've checked and you don't want the
package), or for which you will immediately add the package to
/etc/portage/package.keywords (because you've checked and you do want to
keep the package in its unstable version).
There is, however, another option that people seem to forget:
WAIT.
If you run x86, you likely do so because you value stability over "cool
factor". You want to be sure it works "out-of-the-box", without a whole
lot of management froo-fraw, even if that means you don't have the
absolutely latest version of the application /today/.
People, this is not Debian. It's not as if you're going to have to wait
2 or 3 years for KDE 3.5 to migrate to the 'stable' branch. But people
seem to forget that 1) the stable and unstable branches refer to the
/*ebuilds*/, not the program itself (if the program itself was unstable,
it would be hard masked, or even all-arches-masked, or not in Portage at
all), and 2) KDE has a bloody lot of ebuilds, all of which must interact
with each other seamlessly to provide an efficient and successful
Portage experience.
So what you're testing when you run an ~arch application is the
correctness of the ebuild to compile the application properly, not the
program itself. It's not as if somebody releases an application that
doesn't compile, for Pete's sake-- but if the ebuild is wrong/flawed,
the application may not compile properly *under Gentoo*. Witness the
issue with the hard-masked version of Portage. It's hard-masked because
*major problems in the process are expected, and the result may not be
useable* (hard-masking seems to relate to both the ebuild and the final
program).
The testing branches are meant for just that-- testing. Testing of the
ebuilds, testing of the ebuilds and the applications under different
architectures (will thus-and-so program compile at all under sparc, for
example, and does the ebuild as it stands replicate the successful
compilation, if such a successful compilation is possible?), and testing
of the ebuild and the application (the 8.16.20 version of the ATI
drivers was all-arch-masked shortly after release because so many people
had problems with them -- and the problem was determined to be
upstream-- that they were deemed too dangerous for the general population).
If you want to test, fine-- but learn the proper procedures for doing
so and take responsibility for the fact that you are testing this
application with regards to the emerge process and Portage. Yes,
unmasking KDE is a difficult processs, but you're testing the package on
behalf of Gentoo, and that is not supposed to be easy. Take
responsibility for the fact that you're performing a service and 1) suck
it up; 2) pay attention to what you're doing so that you can be a good
tester and report problems to b.g.o.
If you don't want to test, then just *&$%#^* wait until those who do
report any issues that may exist (and hopefully the ebuild is
fixed/revised), or report "no issues" (basically by not submitting any
bugs against it), and the package is marked stable (
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:29:41 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > So what I want to do is give my computer a complete clean-out. What I > > really CAN'T be bothered doing is a complete format and re-install! > What you've described and what others have posted sounds more > compiicated and time consuming than doing what you CAN'T be bothered > with. Also allows the opportunity to redo any partitioning scheme > and swap setup that may have aged or not fill the bill any more. There are some major advantages to not re-installing. One is that all your settings remain untouched, whereas a reinstall requires you to reconfigure everything. A more important difference is that the computer cannot be used for anything else during reinstallation, whereas a clean up is performed on a running system. It is also a lot less work that a reinstallation, especially if you do it regularly. All you really need to do is clean the world file of any cruft, emerge depclean && revdep-rebuild and run the script to clean orphaned files from /etc. -- Neil Bothwick Hot tip #345: Never whistle while drinking coffee. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] individual LDFLAGS per package.
Hello, I got a question if there is possibility to force some packages to use other LDFLAGS that are set globally in /etc/make.conf My global LDFLAGS are "-z combreloc -s" and there is only one package which crashes with them. It is wine. It recognizes word combreloc in that flag as a filename and crashes with no such file error. So my question is how to change LDFLAGS to empty for that one package? Greets Pawel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] individual LDFLAGS per package.
On (18/12/05 12:31), Paweł Madej wrote: > Hello, > > I got a question if there is possibility to force some packages to use > other LDFLAGS that are set globally in /etc/make.conf > > My global LDFLAGS are "-z combreloc -s" and there is only one package > which crashes with them. It is wine. It recognizes word combreloc in > that flag as a filename and crashes with no such file error. > > So my question is how to change LDFLAGS to empty for that one package? > > Greets > Pawel > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > Hi, Yes you can, but it's something like a hack presently. A year or more ago on this (IIRC) ML there was a thread called "Portage Toys" - by spider & others. It was a hack using /etc/portage/bashrc script to set some cflags/ldflags on a per-package base. Later other dev - "urilith" (IIRC) made it modular - i'm using his version (1.4). Be warned that the usage of this is your responsibility, don't file bugs using this "feature". Use it *only* if you know what you're doing. Frankly said lately i'm not using this very much. Other way is to hack the ebuild directly in an overlay. HTH.Rumen pgpA3pSRA46vg.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] mod_php5
Folks: I'm in the process of installing awf-cms -> http://awf-cms.org. The install, however, requires mod_php5 which I cannot find with emerge. Has anyone actually installed mod_php5 on a gentoo system? TIA -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mod_php5
On Sunday 18 December 2005 14:18, Qv6 wrote: > Folks: > I'm in the process of installing awf-cms -> http://awf-cms.org. The > install, however, requires mod_php5 which I cannot find with emerge. > Has anyone actually installed mod_php5 on a gentoo system? > > TIA if I'm not wrong, build php5 with apache use flag and it mast be there martins -- Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 14:35:21 up 1 day, 18:04, 6 users, load average: 1.12, 1.14, 1.05 pgpBgryOYSBg4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 00:42, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to write: > On 12/17/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is /dev/dsp actually missing on startup, or just created with the > > > wrong permissions? > > > > Apparently it has the wrong permissions, or so says the message when I > > start KDE,but if I reset them, next boot they are changed. Either > > resetting permissions, or doing # udevstart allows me to use /dev/dsp as > > user but changes don't survive a reboot. > > Hmm, /dev/dsp is only necessary for legacy OSS support...it should not > be necessary with KDE, which _should_ be able to use the ALSA > interface. Do you have the alsa USE flag set? > Hmm, no IIRC, when I first installed on this box, I had to go with oss (nforce2 mobo w/onboard sound). > What are the permissions that it is being created with? (Do "ls -l > /dev/dsp" from a console after startup without logging into KDE). > > > > Are you using a device tarball (RC_DEVICE_TARBALL in /etc/conf.d/rc)? > > > > Yes. > > I would suggest turning TARBALL off. It is almost certainly not needed > today. Turned it off. Let's see > > One possibility is that the device is comfing from the tarball, but > not being recreated by udev for some reason. You can check this with: > > tar -tjvf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 $ sudo tar -tjvf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 | grep dsp crw--- root/audio14,19 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp1 crw--- root/audio14,35 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp2 crw--- root/audio14,51 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp3 > > Also, what messages do you get on bootup between "Starting udevd" and > "Mounting /dev/pts..." Can't see Starting udevd is dmesg or kern.log.0 will try to catch it next boot > > Do you CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y or =m in your kernel configuration? > cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep SND_PCM_OSS CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y Rebooting with these changes. I'll get back to you soon. Thanks again. > -Richard Rebooting with these changes. I'll get back to you soon. Thanks again. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 08:07:29 up 8:26, 2 users, load average: 0.21, 0.69, 0.66 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two boots?
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > the first boot attempt stops near the time the clock > > service is run. Then the machine reboots itself, and > > the boot process succeeds. > > The same happens to me, exactly at the same point. Could it be that the hardware clock has a lot of drift, and when it gets adjusted by the bootscript, somehow the hangcheck timer thinks the machine is hanging, and auto-reboots? To verify this, either adapt the clock script and comment out the line that does hwclock adjust, or disable hangcheck in the kernel. Alternatively, could it be a bootscript error? What version of baselayout are you running? Hmm, see also https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104139. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Minor Startup Issue
C. Beamer wrote: > Today, I updated my desktop system and recompiled a new kernel. > Afterwards I re-emerged alsa-driver and ati-drivers. > > The update solved an issue with not being able to turn off or > reboot the computer when I selected either from the menu on KDE > logout. Hmm... what things did you update? (genlop -l --date yesterday) It seems weird that a KDE issue is solved by emerging other things. Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] individual LDFLAGS per package.
Hi, a correction here On (18/12/05 14:12), Rumen Yotov wrote: > On (18/12/05 12:31), Paweł Madej wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I got a question if there is possibility to force some packages to use > > other LDFLAGS that are set globally in /etc/make.conf > > > > My global LDFLAGS are "-z combreloc -s" and there is only one package > > which crashes with them. It is wine. It recognizes word combreloc in > > that flag as a filename and crashes with no such file error. > > > > So my question is how to change LDFLAGS to empty for that one package? > > > > Greets > > Pawel > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > Hi, > Yes you can, but it's something like a hack presently. > A year or more ago on this (IIRC) ML there was a thread called "Portage Toys" > - by spider & others A year or more ago on this (IIRC) ML there was a thread called "Portage Toys" - by "solar" & others. > It was a hack using /etc/portage/bashrc script to set some cflags/ldflags on > a per-package base. > Later other dev - "urilith" (IIRC) made it modular - i'm using his version > (1.4). > Be warned that the usage of this is your responsibility, don't file bugs > using this "feature". > Use it *only* if you know what you're doing. Frankly said lately i'm not > using this very much. > Other way is to hack the ebuild directly in an overlay. > HTH.Rumen The archive is in 'portage-tools' dir, version is 1.4. Read bashrc.README Rumen pgpfkaiP4Vica.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
On 12/18/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:29:41 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > So what I want to do is give my computer a complete clean-out. What I > > > really CAN'T be bothered doing is a complete format and re-install! > > There are some major advantages to not re-installing. One is that all > your settings remain untouched, whereas a reinstall requires you to > reconfigure everything. > > A more important difference is that the computer cannot be used for > anything else during reinstallation, whereas a clean up is performed on > a running system. It is also a lot less work that a reinstallation, > especially if you do it regularly. All you really need to do is clean > the world file of any cruft, emerge depclean && revdep-rebuild and run > the script to clean orphaned files from /etc. I recently had a similar issue. I seriously b0rked my box by upgrading gcc, neglecting to read the upgrade guide, and pruning the old gcc thus breaking just about EVERYTHING. What I did was recover to a semi-usable state, create a chrooted environment on my disk, unpacked a stage and did a complete re-install, the whole time I was using the computer for some programming work. When all the builds completed I just tarred up the old / partition and the new one from my build environment, booted a livecd and unpacked the new / over the old one, no format involved. It was a major pain in the butt that I hope to never repeat but it gave me a new system while still letting me use my old system. Still, if all you want to do is clean up cruft there are far better ways than re-installing your whole system. That's something windoze users do ;-) -Mike -- Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation Linux takes junk and turns it into something useful. Windows takes something useful and turns it into junk. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mod_php5
On 12/18/05, Martins Steinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if I'm not wrong, build php5 with apache use flag and it mast be there Thats is how I build my webserver. Emerge php5 with apache2 use flag. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute Software Developer SoftGroup Development Corporation Linux takes junk and turns it into something useful. Windows takes something useful and turns it into junk. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 08:35, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to write: > On Sunday 18 December 2005 00:42, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to > > write: > > On 12/17/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Is /dev/dsp actually missing on startup, or just created with the > > > > wrong permissions? > > > > > > Apparently it has the wrong permissions, or so says the message when I > > > start KDE,but if I reset them, next boot they are changed. Either > > > resetting permissions, or doing # udevstart allows me to use /dev/dsp > > > as user but changes don't survive a reboot. > > > > Hmm, /dev/dsp is only necessary for legacy OSS support...it should not > > be necessary with KDE, which _should_ be able to use the ALSA > > interface. Do you have the alsa USE flag set? > > Hmm, no > > IIRC, when I first installed on this box, I had to go with oss (nforce2 > mobo w/onboard sound). > > > What are the permissions that it is being created with? (Do "ls -l > > /dev/dsp" from a console after startup without logging into KDE). (loged into kde but I have not done # udevstart as of yet): lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 18 03:45 /dev/dsp -> sound/dsp After doing # udevstart: $ sudo udevstart [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/dsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 18 09:02 /dev/dsp -> sound/dsp Looks the same to me, but I seem to have permissions for /dev/dsp Saytime works now, it didn't give me audio befor udevstart. Look at the times wierd huh? Now, before logging into KDE: lrwxrwxrwx Time is still odd > > > > > > Are you using a device tarball (RC_DEVICE_TARBALL in /etc/conf.d/rc)? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > I would suggest turning TARBALL off. It is almost certainly not needed > > today. > > Turned it off. Let's see Not a good idea there. A device node for my nvidia graphics card was not created. I edited xorg.conf, changing driver from nvidia to "nv" just to get X up and running Gotta recreate them. I guess. OK created the nvidia devices like so: mknod -m 660 /dev/nvidia0 c 195 0 mknod -m 660 /dev/nvidia1 c 195 1 mknod -m 660 /dev/nvidiactl c 195 255 And changed back to TARBALL="on" Let's see changed back to "nvidia" and rebooted. X working properly. > > > One possibility is that the device is comfing from the tarball, but > > not being recreated by udev for some reason. You can check this with: > > > > tar -tjvf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 > > $ sudo tar -tjvf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 | grep dsp > crw--- root/audio14,19 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp1 > crw--- root/audio14,35 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp2 > crw--- root/audio14,51 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp3 > > > Also, what messages do you get on bootup between "Starting udevd" and > > "Mounting /dev/pts..." > > Can't see Starting udevd is dmesg or kern.log.0 will try to catch it next > boot > I don't see "Starting udevd" but I do see: Configuring System to use udev setting /sbin/udevsend as hotplug agent mounting devpts at /dev/pts > > Do you CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y or =m in your kernel configuration? > > cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep SND_PCM_OSS > CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y > > Rebooting with these changes. I'll get back to you soon. Thanks again. > > > -Richard > > Rebooting with these changes. I'll get back to you soon. Thanks again. > -- > Regards, Ernie > 100% Microsoft and Intel free > > 08:07:29 up 8:26, 2 users, load average: 0.21, 0.69, 0.66 > Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 08:53:27 up 7 min, 2 users, load average: 0.58, 0.43, 0.18 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] World Of Warcraft - Works like MAGIC on Gentoo
Just to let you guys know, not that it means anything special, but WoW works like a DREAM on Gentoo. Now, the bad, I've been reading up on this 'mouse pointer' problem, and damn.. it's getting the best of me. I've been Google'ing all day for a patch/fix, but the mouse thingy still eludes me. Does anyone know of a patchy patch, or nice fix for WoW on Gentoo? -- Han Solo: This is not going to work. Luke Skywalker: Why didn't you say so before? Han Solo: I did say so before! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] deptree...
Hello! Recently (when I upgraded to gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5) I've been having boot problems. I think I'm having the exact same problem as: http://www.usenetlinux.com/t-324913.html ... where the user gets his /var/lib/init.d/deptree "duplicated" (the dependencies gets repeated twice). My symptoms are the same; i.e. the deptree file gets printed during boot and sometimes results in an error where /sbin/depscan.sh is required to be run manually. Does anyone know how to fix this? I've tried to re-emerge baselayout. Best regards Peter K -- We Can Put an End to Word Attachments: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
051218 Holly Bostick wrote: > Do *not* use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line > except for an explicit 'testing' situation. > Either with --pretend, to see what packages are involved, > or for a single/simple unstable package you are not sure you want to keep, > for which Portage's automatic downgrade will not be a problem > (because you've checked and you don't want the package) > or for which you will immediately add the package > to /etc/portage/package.keywords (because you've checked > and you do want to keep the package in its unstable version). This is true only if you ever do 'emerge world' without a '-p'. I consider 'world' an unsatisfactory feature of Gentoo & never use it except for 'emerge -Dup world' to get an ordering for updates before emerging some of them individually in a weekly session. In .bashrc I have alias emergeu='ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge' which I use occasionally when I don't want to 'WAIT' (tm H Bostick), eg last week when I emerged Galeon 2.0 . Otherwise, I keep a list of all the packages I have installed -- something Gentoo should provide automatically, but 'world' doesn't, & which I made using 'qpkg -I' (also deprecated for some reason) & keep upto-date with Vim as I remerge individual packages -- & use 'esync' once a week, which not only updates the tree, but most helpfully lists all packages which have new versions & colors those among them which I have installed. I then decide which packages deserve to be updated to newer versions (eg yesterday 'man-pages' (system) & 'xpdf' (security)). My solution to NR's original query will be (probably next week) to do a series of 'emergeu kdelibs', 'emergeu kjots' etc or perhaps put groups in lists in 'emergeu' commands. My list of installed packages tells me which ones I need to remerge. Linux is about choice, so everyone do it his/her way, & Gentoo is about control, which is why I choose to do it my way. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:13, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to write: > On Sunday 18 December 2005 08:35, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to > > write: > > On Sunday 18 December 2005 00:42, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to > > > > write: > > > Hmm, /dev/dsp is only necessary for legacy OSS support...it should not > > > be necessary with KDE, which _should_ be able to use the ALSA > > > interface. Do you have the alsa USE flag set? > > > > Hmm, no Changed the KDE sound system to ALSA same problem. Is there something I would have to rebuild with the alsa flag? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 10:26:28 up 1 min, 2 users, load average: 0.78, 0.36, 0.13 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.
--- Benno Schulenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > maxim wexler wrote: > > I created a fat32, ID 'b' partition w/fdisk. > > > > Formatted w/ mkdosfs -F 32 > > Please show the output of cfdisk or parted. Using /dev/hda (parted) print Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0kB - 3229MB Disk label type: msdos Number Start End SizeType File system Flags 1 32kB91MB91MBprimary ext2 boot 2 91MB3229MB 3138MB primary fat32 (parted) > > > But can't be mounted in gentoo: unknown filesytem > type > > 'vfat'. In fact the same error occurs w/ -t vfat, > -t > > auto or no specified fs at all. > > Then you're still missing something in the kernel. > Turn on anything > vaguely fattish and dossish in the kernel config. > Also maybe try > to mount it with -t fat32. And please paste the > exact command and > output given. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep FAT /usr/src/linux/.config # CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL is not set # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-1" reflex pindar # mount -t fat32 /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 mount: unknown filesystem type 'fat32' reflex pindar # mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat' reflex pindar # mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat' reflex pindar # mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat' > > Also try creating a dos file system on a dummy file > and mounting it > on a loop device and see if that works. And try > creating and using > a fat16 file system instead. ...to be cont'd > > Benno > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Java install question
Anyone? Thanks, Mark On 12/17/05, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, >Is a Java JDK a necessity? I currently have none of the Blackdown > stuff installed and am using sun-jre-bin as it solves a problem with > some drop down menus. However, when I emerge sun-jre-bin I get a set > of messages that aren't comforting: > > --- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/lib/i386/client/libjsig.so > --- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/javaws/javaws > >>> original instance of package unmerged safely. > * Found no JDK, setting sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06 as default system VM > javac not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javac or > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javac > javadoc not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javadoc or > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javadoc > jar not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/jar or > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/jar > rmic not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/rmic or > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/rmic > THIS SYSTEM VM IS NOT SUFFICIENT, REQUIRED BINARIES WERE NOT FOUND > System Virtual Machine set > You may want to update your enviroment by running: > "/usr/sbin/env-update && source /etc/profile" > >>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... > > >I get the same messages if I install only the blackdown-jre without > the blackdown-jdk. > >Am I supposed to be installing something else to make the sun-jre > work? (Since the blackdown-jre dowsn't work...) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix blackdown > * dev-java/blackdown-jre > Available versions: *1.3.1-r9 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r1 1.4.2.02 ~1.4.2.02-r1 > Installed: none > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org > Description: Blackdown Java Runtime Environment 1.4.2.01 > > * dev-java/blackdown-jdk > Available versions: 1.3.1-r8 *1.3.1-r10 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r2 > 1.4.2.02 ~1.4.2.03 > Installed: none > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org/ > Description: Blackdown Java Development Kit 1.3.1 > > * dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin > Available versions: 1.3.1-r1 > Installed: none > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org > Description: Java 3D Software Development Kit > > > Found 3 matches > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix sun-jre-bin > * dev-java/sun-jre-bin > Available versions: 1.4.2.09 1.4.2.10 1.5.0.05 1.5.0.06 > Installed: 1.5.0.06 > Homepage:http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ > Description: Sun's J2SE Platform > > > Found 1 matches > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ > > Thanks, > Mark > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 08:56 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, >Is a Java JDK a necessity? I currently have none of the Blackdown > stuff installed and am using sun-jre-bin as it solves a problem with > some drop down menus. However, when I emerge sun-jre-bin I get a set > of messages that aren't comforting: > > --- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/lib/i386/client/libjsig.so > --- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/javaws/javaws > >>> original instance of package unmerged safely. > * Found no JDK, setting sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06 as default system VM > javac not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javac or > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javac > javadoc not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javadoc or > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javadoc > jar not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/jar or > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/jar > rmic not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/rmic or > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/rmic > THIS SYSTEM VM IS NOT SUFFICIENT, REQUIRED BINARIES WERE NOT FOUND > System Virtual Machine set > You may want to update your enviroment by running: > "/usr/sbin/env-update && source /etc/profile" > >>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... > > >I get the same messages if I install only the blackdown-jre without > the blackdown-jdk. > >Am I supposed to be installing something else to make the sun-jre > work? (Since the blackdown-jre dowsn't work...) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix blackdown > * dev-java/blackdown-jre > Available versions: *1.3.1-r9 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r1 1.4.2.02 ~1.4.2.02-r1 > Installed: none > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org > Description: Blackdown Java Runtime Environment 1.4.2.01 > > * dev-java/blackdown-jdk > Available versions: 1.3.1-r8 *1.3.1-r10 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r2 > 1.4.2.02 ~1.4.2.03 > Installed: none > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org/ > Description: Blackdown Java Development Kit 1.3.1 > > * dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin > Available versions: 1.3.1-r1 > Installed: none > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org > Description: Java 3D Software Development Kit > > > Found 3 matches > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix sun-jre-bin > * dev-java/sun-jre-bin > Available versions: 1.4.2.09 1.4.2.10 1.5.0.05 1.5.0.06 > Installed: 1.5.0.06 > Homepage:http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ > Description: Sun's J2SE Platform > > > Found 1 matches > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ > > Thanks, > Mark > I think you should install the JDK or disable java in your USE flags. Bye -- Haim signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
> > Wait til Holly sees this > > No, no, Ernie, you've covered the meat of any warning I would give with > relation to LostSon's suggestion, but I'll say it again: Thank you all for blasting me about how i do things. Im sorry I dont do things the perfect "gentoo way" you think they should be done. however I feel when KDE releases a new version to the mirrors it is time to install it. I have had discussions about the whole Deep world thing and everytime i have used it in the past it breaks something so i simply do not use it. I sync everyday and emerge -up world my system to see what is coming in or going out on each of my 4 gentoo boxes at home. I was merely offering a suggestion on how to quicky get KDE-3.5 installled. Oh well you run your boxes your way and i will run mine my way. Happy Holidays! LostSon -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.
maxim wexler schreef: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep FAT /usr/src/linux/.config # > CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL is not set # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems > CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 > CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-1" > > > reflex pindar # mount -t fat32 /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 mount: unknown > filesystem type 'fat32' > > reflex pindar # mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 mount: unknown > filesystem type 'vfat' > > reflex pindar # mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 mount: unknown > filesystem type 'vfat' > > reflex pindar # mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 mount: unknown filesystem > type 'vfat' > Now, what I notice about this is the "unknown file system". Since you have the vfat module compiled into the kernel, it seems to me that this can only mean that the module is not loaded (as it might not be if a FAT32 filesystem did not need to be mounted at boot, because it was not detected, and/or the partition is not set to autoload at boot via /etc/fstab, and/or the module is not set to autoload at boot via /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.*). What happens if you modprobe vfat before attempting to mount? If this works, at least you know what the problem is (and that it's not that the filesystem just *says* it's FAT32 but actually isn't, which is another possible cause of such an issue-- I've had that happen to me, just not with fat32). If it's just that the module needs to be loaded, then put it in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.*, so you don't have to worry about it anymore. If you get an error when attempting to modprobe, or after modprobing mounting still returns an error, then we've at least got more information (in the case of an error), or eliminated one possible cause (if mounting still fails after successfully modprobing the module). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources
On 2005-12-17 19:58:36 -0600 (Sat, Dec), Samir Faci wrote: > is there an advantage to doing that as opposed to rm -fr > /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-r10 (or whatever the dir is called)? Just > curious, I always just used the rm -fr As others said, you SHOULD unmerge the unused package. Just as a note I'd say that it seems that doing 'rm -rf' on kernel source files speeds up (a little) the unmerging process - portage tests whether modification dates differ, but with removed files it quickly realizes that there is no such file. Additionally emerge unmerge leaves the remnants of compilation process, so you still have to do rm -r on the sources. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by "grep -i virus $MESSAGE" pgpC6bNtpHVAJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
On 12/18/05, Haim Ashkenazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 08:56 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi, > >Is a Java JDK a necessity? I currently have none of the Blackdown > > stuff installed and am using sun-jre-bin as it solves a problem with > > some drop down menus. However, when I emerge sun-jre-bin I get a set > > of messages that aren't comforting: > > > > --- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/lib/i386/client/libjsig.so > > --- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/javaws/javaws > > >>> original instance of package unmerged safely. > > * Found no JDK, setting sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06 as default system VM > > javac not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javac or > > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javac > > javadoc not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javadoc or > > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javadoc > > jar not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/jar or > > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/jar > > rmic not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/rmic or > > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/rmic > > THIS SYSTEM VM IS NOT SUFFICIENT, REQUIRED BINARIES WERE NOT FOUND > > System Virtual Machine set > > You may want to update your enviroment by running: > > "/usr/sbin/env-update && source /etc/profile" > > >>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... > > > > > >I get the same messages if I install only the blackdown-jre without > > the blackdown-jdk. > > > >Am I supposed to be installing something else to make the sun-jre > > work? (Since the blackdown-jre dowsn't work...) > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix blackdown > > * dev-java/blackdown-jre > > Available versions: *1.3.1-r9 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r1 1.4.2.02 > > ~1.4.2.02-r1 > > Installed: none > > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org > > Description: Blackdown Java Runtime Environment 1.4.2.01 > > > > * dev-java/blackdown-jdk > > Available versions: 1.3.1-r8 *1.3.1-r10 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r2 > > 1.4.2.02 ~1.4.2.03 > > Installed: none > > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org/ > > Description: Blackdown Java Development Kit 1.3.1 > > > > * dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin > > Available versions: 1.3.1-r1 > > Installed: none > > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org > > Description: Java 3D Software Development Kit > > > > > > Found 3 matches > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix sun-jre-bin > > * dev-java/sun-jre-bin > > Available versions: 1.4.2.09 1.4.2.10 1.5.0.05 1.5.0.06 > > Installed: 1.5.0.06 > > Homepage:http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ > > Description: Sun's J2SE Platform > > > > > > Found 1 matches > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ > > > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > > I think you should install the JDK or disable java in your USE flags. > > Bye > -- > Haim Thanks for the response. What I'm seeing is that with the blackdown-jre installed some things do not work. With the sun-jre-bin package installed these things work until the blackdown-jdk is installed at which time they stop working. Java seems a bit of a mess! Thanks again for the response. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
Hi, There is a web site that my wife wanted to use. The web address is here: http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 On this page, on the right, there are pictures that you are supposed to click to see a larger version to the left. This works on Windows and it works on the Mac, but it does not work on any of our Linux systems, using either blackdown java or sun java. I think that's a problem so I file a bug. I filed a bug report here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115949 and was told the bug was 'invalid' because the page didn't have any Java. They said the page only has javascript. First, from a (stupid) user's perspective I found this a bit disappointing. I'm just told 'invalid' and given no guidance about how to make it work. However that happens when some developers have to talk to user types like me. I understand that. Still I want to understand how to make it work so the WAF stays high and she doesn't ask to go back to Windows. What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
Mark Knecht wrote: What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? I don't know what the difference between java & javascript is either, but the web page you cited works for me using an up-to-date gentoo system and firefox. Clicking on the pictures on the right hand side does pop up larger pictures for me. I've enabled javascript & java in firefox's edit->preferences->web features menu. For what it's worth, I'm using blackdown java. John -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, There is a web site that my wife wanted to use. The web address is here: http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 On this page, on the right, there are pictures that you are supposed to click to see a larger version to the left. This works on Windows and it works on the Mac, but it does not work on any of our Linux systems, using either blackdown java or sun java. I think that's a problem so I file a bug. I filed a bug report here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115949 and was told the bug was 'invalid' because the page didn't have any Java. They said the page only has javascript. First, from a (stupid) user's perspective I found this a bit disappointing. I'm just told 'invalid' and given no guidance about how to make it work. However that happens when some developers have to talk to user types like me. I understand that. Still I want to understand how to make it work so the WAF stays high and she doesn't ask to go back to Windows. What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? Thanks, Mark javascript is, in fact, not java. typically, in the context of web sites, java is run server-side and essentially returns html for your browser to interpret. javascript, on the other hand, was, I believe, developed by netscape, not sun. they just called it that because it has some similarities with java. it is client-side, like microsoft's proprietary activex technology. Their response was probably fine, since there is, in fact, no java in javascript, despite the name. :) Oddly enough, I had no problems with the smith and noble website with firefox on my gentoo laptop...but that was a few months ago. from a practical standpoint, make sure you're running the latest firefox, and have javascript enabled in the security settings. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.
On 2005-12-18 18:18:34 +0100 (Sun, Dec), Holly Bostick wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep FAT /usr/src/linux/.config # > > CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL is not set # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems > > CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 > > CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-1" > > > > Since you have the vfat module compiled into the kernel, it seems to me > that this can only mean that the module is not loaded (as it might not > be if a FAT32 filesystem did not need to be mounted at boot, because it > was not detected, and/or the partition is not set to autoload at boot > via /etc/fstab, and/or the module is not set to autoload at boot via > /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.*). > > > If you get an error when attempting to modprobe, or after modprobing > mounting still returns an error, then we've at least got more > information (in the case of an error), or eliminated one possible cause > (if mounting still fails after successfully modprobing the module). As I can see the VFAT is compiled in the kernel, not as a module. Compare: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i fat CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL=y # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems CONFIG_FAT_FS=m CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=852 CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-2" I wonder what is in your /proc/filesystems and /etc/filesystems ? Could you post their contents here? And are you sure that /usr/src/linux/.config belongs to the kernel you actualy run? It would not hurt to modprobe, anyway. ;-) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by "grep -i virus $MESSAGE" pgpzvgBYo7LCX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On 18-12-2005 17:46, Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, >There is a web site that my wife wanted to use. The web address is here: > > http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 > > On this page, on the right, there are pictures that you are supposed > to click to see a larger version to the left. This works on Windows > and it works on the Mac, but it does not work on any of our Linux > systems, using either blackdown java or sun java. I think that's a > problem so I file a bug. Well on windows it works on IE but not on Firefox. >What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? Javascript is a client-side scripting language, it seams that the code on that page dosent support Firefox/Mozilla There is nothing that you can do about it, unless for instance you want to run IE on linux with wine: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=148168 regards, --RNuno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
Mark Knecht schreef: > >What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? JavaScript >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to: navigation, search JavaScript is an object-based scripting programming language based on the concept of prototypes. The language is best known for its use in websites, but is also used to enable scripting access to objects embedded in other applications. It was originally developed by Brendan Eich of Netscape Communications Corporation under the name Mocha, then LiveScript, and finally renamed to JavaScript. Like Java, JavaScript has a C-like syntax, but it has far more in common with the Self programming language than with Java. Java >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Jump to: navigation, search The term Java can refer to: In computer science: * Java, a technology developed by Sun Microsystems for machine-independent software, which encompasses: o Java programming language, an object-oriented high-level programming language o Java virtual machine, the virtual machine that runs Java byte code o Java platform, the Java virtual machine plus API specifications + Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition, targets desktop environment + Java 2 Platform, Enterprise Edition, targets server environment + Java 2 Platform, Micro Edition, targets embedded consumer products * JavaScript, a scripting language syntacticly similar to, but semanticly different from, the Java programming language John Blinka already told you how to enable JavaScript (and Java, if you want) in your (Mozilla/Gecko-based) browser. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
John Blinka wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? I don't know what the difference between java & javascript is either, but the web page you cited works for me using an up-to-date gentoo system and firefox. Clicking on the pictures on the right hand side does pop up larger pictures for me. I've enabled javascript & java in firefox's edit->preferences->web features menu. For what it's worth, I'm using blackdown java. John The site worked for me too. I use Mozilla 1.7.12 and KDE. This is my pluggins: Java(TM) Plug-in Blackdown-1.4.2-02 QuickTime Plug-in 6.0 Shockwave Flash 7.0 r61 Maybe if you copy what I have installed it will work. I did download the java from the Sun site and put it in /usr/portage/distfiles. It is the "true" java I guess, even though it is a pain in the but to install. Oh, my USE line is this: USE="acl acpi alsa amd arts artsd artswrappersuid cdr chroot clanJavaScript -crypt dbus doc -eds ethereal f-prot fdftk gaim gcj gimpprint gkrellm gphoto2 gtk gtkhtml hal hbci hpijs gif innodb java javascript jbig justify kde mmx mozdomi mozilla nsplugin ofx offensive openoffice -oss parse-clocks ppds pysol scanner scribus sse tcltk tiff tkinter truetype tuxracer udev usb X xml xprint yahoo 3dnow " Hope that helps. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 15:30, Ernie Schroder wrote: > On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:13, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to > > write: > > On Sunday 18 December 2005 08:35, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder > > to > > > > write: > > > On Sunday 18 December 2005 00:42, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish > > > to > > > > > > write: > > > > Hmm, /dev/dsp is only necessary for legacy OSS support...it should > > > > not be necessary with KDE, which _should_ be able to use the ALSA > > > > interface. Do you have the alsa USE flag set? > > > > > > Hmm, no > > Changed the KDE sound system to ALSA same problem. Is there something I > would have to rebuild with the alsa flag? > -- > Regards, Ernie > 100% Microsoft and Intel free > > 10:26:28 up 1 min, 2 users, load average: 0.78, 0.36, 0.13 > Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ Ernie, Have you checked something simple, your user is in the audio group? -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] inotify missing with 2.6.14-gentoo-r2
Yoandy Rodriguez wrote: Hello, After moving to 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 inotify device got lost. I have CONFIG_INOTIFY set to yes and /proc/filesystems shows a inotifyfs (never heard of it). any hint about what might be happening?? Inotify is now system-call based, so no device node is created. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
Ernie Schroder wrote: I'm obviously looking in the wrong places, but I can't find documentation on getting udev to start at boot. Sound and a few other things you don't notice right away fail to work until I do: # udevstart /dev/dsp is created with correct permissions and I'm good to go. The question is: How to I get udev to start at boot? Which version of udev do you have installed? What is the output of "cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug"? Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge starts slowly
Justin Krejci wrote: Yes, the second run and subsequent runs for a period of time all seem to be fairly quick, but I thought it odd that my AMD64 system is always quick. The initial slowdown is due to portage having to scan over the entire tree of installed packages, calculating virtuals. Chances are your AMD64 system has fewer packages installed (and is faster by system specification too). Hopefully portage 2.1 will make improvements in this area. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On 12/18/05, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 18, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > Hi, > >There is a web site that my wife wanted to use. The web address > > is here: > > > > http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 > > > > On this page, on the right, there are pictures that you are supposed > > to click to see a larger version to the left. This works on Windows > > and it works on the Mac, but it does not work on any of our Linux > > systems, using either blackdown java or sun java. I think that's a > > problem so I file a bug. > > > >I filed a bug report here: > > > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115949 > > > > and was told the bug was 'invalid' because the page didn't have any > > Java. They said the page only has javascript. First, from a (stupid) > > user's perspective I found this a bit disappointing. I'm just told > > 'invalid' and given no guidance about how to make it work. However > > that happens when some developers have to talk to user types like me. > > I understand that. Still I want to understand how to make it work so > > the WAF stays high and she doesn't ask to go back to Windows. > > > >What's 'javascript' and how do I make this work? > > > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > javascript is, in fact, not java. typically, in the context of web > sites, java is run server-side and essentially returns html for your > browser to interpret. javascript, on the other hand, was, I believe, > developed by netscape, not sun. they just called it that because it > has some similarities with java. it is client-side, like microsoft's > proprietary activex technology. Their response was probably fine, > since there is, in fact, no java in javascript, despite the name. :) > > Oddly enough, I had no problems with the smith and noble website with > firefox on my gentoo laptop...but that was a few months ago. > > from a practical standpoint, make sure you're running the latest > firefox, and have javascript enabled in the security settings. > Thanks to all who responded. I appreciate the info about javascript and suggestions. 1) I do have javascript enabled in Firefox. 2) I'm running this stuff Firefox-1.0.7-r2. I'll try updating to 1.0.7-r4 and see if it makes a difference. 3) I've tried blackdown 1.4.2-02 and 1.4.2-02-r1. Same results here. 4) I'm also using netscape-flash 7.0.61. 5) I've not tried Mozilla. Maybe that's an option for my wife. Not sure. I'll look over the USE flags and other info provided and see if anythign pops up, but since this site seems to work for some (John) and not others (RNuno) it's a bit strange. Thanks for the info all. I really apprecaite it. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 14:01, a tiny voice compelled Tony Davison to write: > On Sunday 18 December 2005 15:30, Ernie Schroder wrote: > > On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:13, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder > > to > > > > write: > > > On Sunday 18 December 2005 08:35, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder > > > to > > > > > > write: > > > > On Sunday 18 December 2005 00:42, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish > > > > to > > > > > > > > write: > > > > > Hmm, /dev/dsp is only necessary for legacy OSS support...it should > > > > > not be necessary with KDE, which _should_ be able to use the ALSA > > > > > interface. Do you have the alsa USE flag set? > > > > > > > > Hmm, no > > > > Changed the KDE sound system to ALSA same problem. Is there something I > > would have to rebuild with the alsa flag? > > -- > > Regards, Ernie > > 100% Microsoft and Intel free > > > > 10:26:28 up 1 min, 2 users, load average: 0.78, 0.36, 0.13 > > Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ > > Ernie, > Have you checked something simple, your user is in the audio group? > > -- > Big Tone Yes, early on the 2 users are there. Good question though, if someone else is following this thread. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 14:43:33 up 3:44, 2 users, load average: 0.51, 0.66, 0.56 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 14:14, a tiny voice compelled Daniel Drake to write: > Ernie Schroder wrote: > > I'm obviously looking in the wrong places, but I can't find documentation > > on getting udev to start at boot. Sound and a few other things you don't > > notice right away fail to work until I do: > > # udevstart > > /dev/dsp is created with correct permissions and I'm good to go. The > > question is: > > How to I get udev to start at boot? > > Which version of udev do you have installed? > What is the output of "cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug"? > > Daniel $ emerge -vp udev [ebuild R ] sys-fs/udev-070-r1 (-selinux) -static 0 kB $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug /sbin/udevsend I have added /sbin/udevstart to /etc/conf.d/local.start and it seems that /dev/dsp is recreated with the right permissions and the annoying message is gone. Not the most elegant solution, but effective. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 14:46:10 up 3:47, 3 users, load average: 0.31, 0.46, 0.49 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 21:36 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: > I'm obviously looking in the wrong places, but I can't find documentation on > getting udev to start at boot. Sound and a few other things you don't notice > right away fail to work until I do: > # udevstart > /dev/dsp is created with correct permissions and I'm good to go. The question > is: > How to I get udev to start at boot? > > I had thought that the place to do this was in grub.conf. Following some > instructions I found searching the gentoo forums, I edited my kernel line > like so: > > title Gentoo-2.6.14 > root (hd0,0) > kernel /bzImage-2.6.14-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda5 dev=udev > video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr vga=0x317 > IIRC its not dev=udev, it's jsut plain udev > Also If you see why the boot complains about my video mode, feel free to > comment. > -- > Regards, Ernie > 100% Microsoft and Intel free > > 21:17:06 up 23 min, 2 users, load average: 0.34, 0.59, 0.57 > Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred Key fingerprint = 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:02:53PM -0600, Penguin Lover John Jolet squawked: > javascript is, in fact, not java. typically, in the context of web > sites, java is run server-side and essentially returns html for your Not quite. Java applets are mostly run client side, with possibly a server-side counterpart for communications. > browser to interpret. javascript, on the other hand, was, I believe, > developed by netscape, not sun. they just called it that because it > has some similarities with java. it is client-side, like microsoft's > proprietary activex technology. Their response was probably fine, > since there is, in fact, no java in javascript, despite the name. :) > > Oddly enough, I had no problems with the smith and noble website with > firefox on my gentoo laptop...but that was a few months ago. > Also, I can reproduce the error on http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 with firefox 1.0.7-r2 and mozilla-1.7.12-r2 Javascript Console on both shows the following: Error: document.frm_bundle.heroImage has no properties SourceFile: http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 line 114 For what it's worth, I believe those people reporting "success" might be trying the wrong page. The website redirects all deep-links to the front page. To reproduce the error, go to the frontpage of smith and noble, on the left hand side, click Photo Gallery. Choose an arbitrary gallery from the right when it appears, open up javascript console from "Tools->Javascript console" in Firefox or "Tools->Web development->Javascript Console" in Mozilla. Click on one of the thumbnails on the right (the hyperlink should say "javascript.switchImage(2)"), and see the image fail to load. To the OP: that might also be one of the reasons your bug was marked invalid. They cannot reproduce the error from the description you gave. >From my limited knowledge of javascript, I can't tell whether it is a badly written javascript that parses in IE but not in Firefox, or Firefox not supporting the full "standard", or perhaps the site-designer used some IE-only extensions. I haven't tried Opera or Konqueror (don't have either installed). Any input? W -- "`The first ten million years were the worst,' said Marvin, `and the second ten million, they were the worst too. The third ten million I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline.'" - Marvin reflecting back on his 576,000,003,579 year career as Milliways' car park attendent. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 36 days, 12:54 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A Gentoo Enema
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There are some major advantages to not re-installing. One is that all > your settings remain untouched, whereas a reinstall requires you to > reconfigure everything. Neil, You're going to have to slow down on all these usefull posts. I keep lots of stuff (after serious trimming) like what came after above in a homemade db for later reference and its growing at a prodigious rate: wc -l ~/.*-snp 2064 /home/reader/.awk-snp 514 /home/reader/.cvs-snp 3350 /home/reader/.gnumacs-snp 1152 /home/reader/.lisp-snp ** Yours go here usually 11703 /home/reader/.misc-snp 1841 /home/reader/.perl-snp 879 /home/reader/.sendmail-snp 1422 /home/reader/.vi-snp 22975 Thats a lot o lines for a text file. Between you and Richard F, I'll have to start charging for hdd soon : ) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.
--- Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > maxim wexler schreef: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep FAT /usr/src/linux/.config > # > > CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL is not set # DOS/FAT/NT > Filesystems > > CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y > CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 > > CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-1" > > > > > > reflex pindar # mount -t fat32 /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 > mount: unknown > > filesystem type 'fat32' > > > > reflex pindar # mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 > mount: unknown > > filesystem type 'vfat' > > > > reflex pindar # mount -t auto /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 > mount: unknown > > filesystem type 'vfat' > > > > reflex pindar # mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 mount: > unknown filesystem > > type 'vfat' > > > > Now, what I notice about this is the "unknown file > system". > > Since you have the vfat module compiled into the > kernel, it seems to me > that this can only mean that the module is not > loaded (as it might not > be if a FAT32 filesystem did not need to be mounted > at boot, because it > was not detected, and/or the partition is not set to > autoload at boot > via /etc/fstab, and/or the module is not set to > autoload at boot via > /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.*). > > What happens if you modprobe vfat before attempting > to mount? Arrrgghh! Why do I have to keep telling people it's NOT a module? So naturally modprobing is useless! As for fstab, if the dir can't be mounted the console starts shooting off red exclamation marks before login is even reached. > > If this works, at least you know what the problem is > (and that it's not > that the filesystem just *says* it's FAT32 but > actually isn't, which is > another possible cause of such an issue-- I've had > that happen to me, > just not with fat32). If it's just that the module > needs to be loaded, > then put it in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.*, > so you don't have to > worry about it anymore. > > If you get an error when attempting to modprobe, or > after modprobing > mounting still returns an error, then we've at least > got more > information (in the case of an error), or eliminated > one possible cause > (if mounting still fails after successfully > modprobing the module). blecch! > > HTH, > Holly > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks to all who responded. I appreciate the info about javascript and suggestions. 1) I do have javascript enabled in Firefox. 2) I'm running this stuff Firefox-1.0.7-r2. I'll try updating to 1.0.7-r4 and see if it makes a difference. 3) I've tried blackdown 1.4.2-02 and 1.4.2-02-r1. Same results here. 4) I'm also using netscape-flash 7.0.61. 5) I've not tried Mozilla. Maybe that's an option for my wife. Not sure. I'll look over the USE flags and other info provided and see if anythign pops up, but since this site seems to work for some (John) and not others (RNuno) it's a bit strange. Thanks for the info all. I really apprecaite it. Cheers, Mark I do recall a while back having trouble with java crashing my Mozilla. I may be wrong but I think Blackdown is what I was having trouble wtih. The site was http://greengiant.com/ if you want to try it. If yours crashes, you may want to switch to Suns java. I seem to recall recompiling Mozilla to, since I changed my USE line to include java. It picked it up and made the needed symlinks itself. I hope all this helps. Sorry things come to me in bits and pieces. I sort of have a lot of things on my mind at the moment, most not Linux related. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.
--- Mariusz Pêkala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2005-12-18 18:18:34 +0100 (Sun, Dec), Holly > Bostick wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep FAT > /usr/src/linux/.config # > > > CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL is not set # DOS/FAT/NT > Filesystems > > > CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y > CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 > > > CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-1" > > > > > > > Since you have the vfat module compiled into the > kernel, it seems to me > > that this can only mean that the module is not > loaded (as it might not > > be if a FAT32 filesystem did not need to be > mounted at boot, because it > > was not detected, and/or the partition is not set > to autoload at boot > > via /etc/fstab, and/or the module is not set to > autoload at boot via > > /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.*). > > > > > > If you get an error when attempting to modprobe, > or after modprobing > > mounting still returns an error, then we've at > least got more > > information (in the case of an error), or > eliminated one possible cause > > (if mounting still fails after successfully > modprobing the module). > > As I can see the VFAT is compiled in the kernel, not > as a module. > Compare: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i fat > CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL=y > # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems > CONFIG_FAT_FS=m > CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m > CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=852 > CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-2" > > I wonder what is in your /proc/filesystems and > /etc/filesystems ? Could > you post their contents here? reflex pindar # cat /proc/filesystems nodev sysfs nodev rootfs nodev bdev nodev proc nodev sockfs nodev debugfs nodev pipefs nodev futexfs nodev tmpfs nodev inotifyfs nodev eventpollfs nodev devpts reiserfs ext2 nodev ramfs iso9660 ntfs nodev mqueue nodev usbfs hmm, no vfat reflex pindar # cat /etc/filesystems # /etc/filesystems # # This file defines the filesystems search order used by a # 'mount -t auto' command. # # Uncomment the following line if your modular kernel has vfat # support and you want mount to try vfat. #vfat aha! Well, I removed the comment but nothing changed. I'll try etc-update...nope oh, wait, it says to use -t auto...nope. OK, that's all I got. > > And are you sure that /usr/src/linux/.config belongs > to the kernel you > actualy run? no alternatives > It would not hurt to modprobe, anyway. ;-) FATAL: Module vfat not found. naturally > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by "grep -i virus $MESSAGE" > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.
maxim wexler wrote: --- Mariusz Pêkala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2005-12-18 18:18:34 +0100 (Sun, Dec), Holly Bostick wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ grep FAT /usr/src/linux/.config # CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL is not set # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems CONFIG_FAT_FS=y CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=437 CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-1" Since you have the vfat module compiled into the kernel, it seems to me that this can only mean that the module is not loaded (as it might not be if a FAT32 filesystem did not need to be mounted at boot, because it was not detected, and/or the partition is not set to autoload at boot via /etc/fstab, and/or the module is not set to autoload at boot via /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.*). If you get an error when attempting to modprobe, or after modprobing mounting still returns an error, then we've at least got more information (in the case of an error), or eliminated one possible cause (if mounting still fails after successfully modprobing the module). As I can see the VFAT is compiled in the kernel, not as a module. Compare: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i fat CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL=y # DOS/FAT/NT Filesystems CONFIG_FAT_FS=m CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_CODEPAGE=852 CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET="iso8859-2" I wonder what is in your /proc/filesystems and /etc/filesystems ? Could you post their contents here? reflex pindar # cat /proc/filesystems nodev sysfs nodev rootfs nodev bdev nodev proc nodev sockfs nodev debugfs nodev pipefs nodev futexfs nodev tmpfs nodev inotifyfs nodev eventpollfs nodev devpts reiserfs ext2 nodev ramfs iso9660 ntfs nodev mqueue nodev usbfs hmm, no vfat reflex pindar # cat /etc/filesystems # /etc/filesystems # # This file defines the filesystems search order used by a # 'mount -t auto' command. # # Uncomment the following line if your modular kernel has vfat # support and you want mount to try vfat. #vfat aha! Well, I removed the comment but nothing changed. I'll try etc-update...nope oh, wait, it says to use -t auto...nope. OK, that's all I got. And are you sure that /usr/src/linux/.config belongs to the kernel you actualy run? no alternatives It would not hurt to modprobe, anyway. ;-) FATAL: Module vfat not found. naturally -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by "grep -i virus $MESSAGE" OK. I haven't followed this thread letter by letter but noticed something that I ran into after I did my gcc upgrade a bit ago. I upgraded my kernel but it did NOT make my modules. I went back and did a make modules && make modules_install and they were there then. May be worth a try since you are using modules for this. Me, I compile everything but my temp sensors *in* the kernel. Another command that may help shead some light: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # modprobe -l /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r2/kernel/drivers/hwmon/w83627hf.ko /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r2/kernel/drivers/hwmon/hwmon-vid.ko /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r2/kernel/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-isa.ko /lib/modules/2.6.14-gentoo-r2/video/nvidia.ko [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # It lists what is available even if it is not loaded up yet. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part.
maxim wexler schreef: > > --- Mariusz Pêkala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>It would not hurt to modprobe, anyway. ;-) > > FATAL: Module vfat not found. naturally > Maybe it would be worthwhile to recompile your kernel with vfat *as* a module, to see what the effect of modprobing and mounting thereafter would be. You might get more useful error messages, anyway. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cups/Sane and The Brother MFC-7420
I recently bought a Brother MFC-7420 and I'm trying to get it to work with my gentoo linux system. Brother provides a lpr driver, a sane driver, and a cupswrapper driver, none of which I can get to work. I have successfully converted the provided .deb / .rpm packages to tar.gz and extracted them, looked at the install/configure shell prints, extracted the fliters and ppds (for printer drivers) and put them in the right place, or at least what I believe to be the right place. Unfortunately, when trying to configure kprinter, as root, I get an error to the effect of Invalid Format when trying to read the ppd. Does anyone have experience with this printer, or any of the brother printers (they seem to have a mostly unified interface) on gentoo? I'd have to have to switch to debian just to get this to work. ;) Also, what information would be helpful for any that want to help me troubleshoot this? This has been stymieing me for a week, and I'd really like to get it fixed ASAP (I have having to go to kinkos to print). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] son of can't mount vfat part[SOLVED].
Mariusz was on the right track when he asked if it was right kernel. Turns out I had copied the kernel to /boot as itself(bzImage) and not as vmlinuz as per usual. So the older one was still active A stupid mistake, but ironically, one that greatly increased my linux lore :) --- Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > maxim wexler schreef: > > > > --- Mariusz Pêkala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>It would not hurt to modprobe, anyway. ;-) > > > > FATAL: Module vfat not found. naturally > > > > Maybe it would be worthwhile to recompile your > kernel with vfat *as* a > module, to see what the effect of modprobing and > mounting thereafter > would be. You might get more useful error messages, > anyway. > > Holly > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 09:36 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > On 12/18/05, Haim Ashkenazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-12-17 at 08:56 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > Hi, > > >Is a Java JDK a necessity? I currently have none of the Blackdown > > > stuff installed and am using sun-jre-bin as it solves a problem with > > > some drop down menus. However, when I emerge sun-jre-bin I get a set > > > of messages that aren't comforting: > > > > > > --- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/lib/i386/client/libjsig.so > > > --- !targe sym /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/javaws/javaws > > > >>> original instance of package unmerged safely. > > > * Found no JDK, setting sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06 as default system VM > > > javac not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javac or > > > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javac > > > javadoc not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/javadoc or > > > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/javadoc > > > jar not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/jar or > > > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/jar > > > rmic not found at /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/bin/rmic or > > > /opt/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06/jre/bin/rmic > > > THIS SYSTEM VM IS NOT SUFFICIENT, REQUIRED BINARIES WERE NOT FOUND > > > System Virtual Machine set > > > You may want to update your enviroment by running: > > > "/usr/sbin/env-update && source /etc/profile" > > > >>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache... > > > > > > > > >I get the same messages if I install only the blackdown-jre without > > > the blackdown-jdk. > > > > > >Am I supposed to be installing something else to make the sun-jre > > > work? (Since the blackdown-jre dowsn't work...) > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix blackdown > > > * dev-java/blackdown-jre > > > Available versions: *1.3.1-r9 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r1 1.4.2.02 > > > ~1.4.2.02-r1 > > > Installed: none > > > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org > > > Description: Blackdown Java Runtime Environment 1.4.2.01 > > > > > > * dev-java/blackdown-jdk > > > Available versions: 1.3.1-r8 *1.3.1-r10 1.4.1-r1 1.4.2.01-r2 > > > 1.4.2.02 ~1.4.2.03 > > > Installed: none > > > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org/ > > > Description: Blackdown Java Development Kit 1.3.1 > > > > > > * dev-java/blackdown-java3d-bin > > > Available versions: 1.3.1-r1 > > > Installed: none > > > Homepage:http://www.blackdown.org > > > Description: Java 3D Software Development Kit > > > > > > > > > Found 3 matches > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix sun-jre-bin > > > * dev-java/sun-jre-bin > > > Available versions: 1.4.2.09 1.4.2.10 1.5.0.05 1.5.0.06 > > > Installed: 1.5.0.06 > > > Homepage:http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/ > > > Description: Sun's J2SE Platform > > > > > > > > > Found 1 matches > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mark > > > > > > > I think you should install the JDK or disable java in your USE flags. > > > > Bye > > -- > > Haim > > Thanks for the response. > > What I'm seeing is that with the blackdown-jre installed some things > do not work. With the sun-jre-bin package installed these things work > until the blackdown-jdk is installed at which time they stop working. > > Java seems a bit of a mess! not really. I don't use blackdown jdk so I don't know about any problems with it, but I do use sun-jdk, and I don't have any problems with java. have to tried configuring your java environment with java-config? Bye -- Haim signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:27:50 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > I consider 'world' an unsatisfactory feature of Gentoo & never use it > except for 'emerge -Dup world' to get an ordering for updates > before emerging some of them individually in a weekly session. No wonder you find world unsatisfactory. Unless you use --oneshot every time, your world file has already been rendered useless. > Otherwise, I keep a list of all the packages I have installed > -- something Gentoo should provide automatically, but 'world' doesn't, Yes it does. world provides a list of all packages YOU have installed. It does not provide a list of all installed packages, which is something very different. qpkg -I equery list find /var/db/pkg -name '*.ebuild' will all do this. There are probably other ways to get a list of all installed packages, but those are three to keep you going for now. -- Neil Bothwick Deliver a pizza? Whoever heard of a liver pizza? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups/Sane and The Brother MFC-7420
Did you try emergeing foomatic-db w/ USE="ppds" ? there are a bunch of Brother ppds in there. On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 16:08 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > I recently bought a Brother MFC-7420 and I'm trying to get it to work with > my gentoo linux system. > > Brother provides a lpr driver, a sane driver, and a cupswrapper driver, > none of which I can get to work. I have successfully converted the > provided .deb / .rpm packages to tar.gz and extracted them, looked at the > install/configure shell prints, extracted the fliters and ppds (for > printer drivers) and put them in the right place, or at least what I > believe to be the right place. > > Unfortunately, when trying to configure kprinter, as root, I get an error > to the effect of Invalid Format when trying to read the ppd. > > Does anyone have experience with this printer, or any of the brother > printers (they seem to have a mostly unified interface) on gentoo? I'd > have to have to switch to debian just to get this to work. ;) > > Also, what information would be helpful for any that want to help me > troubleshoot this? This has been stymieing me for a week, and I'd really > like to get it fixed ASAP (I have having to go to kinkos to print). > > -- > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred Key fingerprint = 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] java vs. javascript - what's the difference?
Willie Wong wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:02:53PM -0600, Penguin Lover John Jolet squawked: _javascript_ is, in fact, not java. typically, in the context of web sites, java is run server-side and essentially returns html for your Not quite. Java applets are mostly run client side, with possibly a server-side counterpart for communications. browser to interpret. _javascript_, on the other hand, was, I believe, developed by netscape, not sun. they just called it that because it has some similarities with java. it is client-side, like microsoft's proprietary activex technology. Their response was probably fine, since there is, in fact, no java in _javascript_, despite the name. :) Oddly enough, I had no problems with the smith and noble website with firefox on my gentoo laptop...but that was a few months ago. Also, I can reproduce the error on http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 with firefox 1.0.7-r2 and mozilla-1.7.12-r2 _javascript_ Console on both shows the following: Error: document.frm_bundle.heroImage has no properties SourceFile: http://www.smithandnoble.com/sn/photoGalleryDetail.jsp?catID=-14150 line 114 For what it's worth, I believe those people reporting "success" might be trying the wrong page. The website redirects all deep-links to the front page. To reproduce the error, go to the frontpage of smith and noble, on the left hand side, click Photo Gallery. Choose an arbitrary gallery from the right when it appears, open up _javascript_ console from "Tools->_javascript_ console" in Firefox or "Tools->Web development->_javascript_ Console" in Mozilla. Click on one of the thumbnails on the right (the hyperlink should say "_javascript_.switchImage(2)"), and see the image fail to load. To the OP: that might also be one of the reasons your bug was marked invalid. They cannot reproduce the error from the description you gave. >From my limited knowledge of _javascript_, I can't tell whether it is a badly written _javascript_ that parses in IE but not in Firefox, or Firefox not supporting the full "standard", or perhaps the site-designer used some IE-only extensions. I haven't tried Opera or Konqueror (don't have either installed). Any input? W I just tried it with Konqueror and it is even worse: they display a message stating that they only support IE and Netscape. Wich means Firefox should be ok. It does work for me with Firefox (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051211 Firefox/1.0.7), but the _javascript_ console signals lots of warnings. Most likely, their _javascript_ is the culprit. As for the _javascript_ vs Java thing, they are two entirely different programing languages. Java is mostly used for bigger 'standalone' applications, when _javascript_ is mostly used to add behavior to web pages (open popups, disable form fields, etc...). Their names' similarity is misleading. My 0.02 € Maxime
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
On 12/18/05, LostSon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you all for blasting me about how i do things. It wasn't my intention to "blast" you, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. There is nothing "wrong" with the way you are doing things, but I doubt that most users here are so controlling about what packages portage upgrades or installs. So it is important to know how to make the ~x86 choice persistent for a set of packages. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:13:54 -0600 LostSon wrote: > > > Wait til Holly sees this > > > > No, no, Ernie, you've covered the meat of any warning I would give with > > relation to LostSon's suggestion, but I'll say it again: > > Thank you all for blasting me about how i do things. Im sorry I dont do > things the perfect "gentoo way" you think they should be done. Take a chill pill and listen to the advice. Using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 has been deprecated for ages, and is useful only in limted circumstances (as outlined by Holly, whose sage advice I will not repeat). > however I feel > when KDE releases a new version to the mirrors it is time to install it. That wasn't the discussion. I simply asked if there was a simple way to get kde 3.5 onto my machine without spending ages amending /etc/portage/package.keywords. It doesn't call for a debate on how long gentoo ebuilds are tested for. >I > have had discussions about the whole Deep world thing and everytime i have > used it in the past it breaks something so i simply do not use it. I sync > everyday and emerge -up world my system to see what is coming in or going out > on each of my 4 gentoo boxes at home. I was merely offering a suggestion on > how to quicky get KDE-3.5 installled. And your answer was the wrong one, simply stand corrected and take the opportunity to learn. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On 12/18/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What are the permissions that it is being created with? (Do "ls -l > > > /dev/dsp" from a console after startup without logging into KDE). > (loged into kde but I have not done # udevstart as of yet): > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 18 03:45 /dev/dsp -> sound/dsp Damn symlinks. Need to see: ls -l /dev/sound/dsp > > > tar -tjvf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 > > > > $ sudo tar -tjvf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 | grep dsp > > crw--- root/audio14,19 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp1 > > crw--- root/audio14,35 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp2 > > crw--- root/audio14,51 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp3 No /dev/dsp, so your tarball can't be having any effect here... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
Mark Knecht wrote: > Hi, >Is a Java JDK a necessity? I currently have none of the Blackdown > stuff installed and am using sun-jre-bin as it solves a problem with > some drop down menus. However, when I emerge sun-jre-bin I get a set > of messages that aren't comforting: > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115345 Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
On 12/18/05, Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > Hi, > >Is a Java JDK a necessity? I currently have none of the Blackdown > > stuff installed and am using sun-jre-bin as it solves a problem with > > some drop down menus. However, when I emerge sun-jre-bin I get a set > > of messages that aren't comforting: > > > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115345 > > Regards, > Petteri Thanks! That's very helpful to know. Do anyone know what was meant by the final comment? I've copied it here for ease of discussion. How do I set the Java VM to the JDK? Why is this recommended? Just so you know, you probably should set your system VM to a JDK. If you want, you can set your user's VM to be a JRE. The reason for this is that if you ever install a Java package or application, you're goint to need a JDK set as your system VM. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On 12/18/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 18 December 2005 10:13, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to > write: > > On Sunday 18 December 2005 08:35, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to > > > > write: > > > On Sunday 18 December 2005 00:42, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to > > > > > > write: > > > > > Hmm, /dev/dsp is only necessary for legacy OSS support...it should not > > > > be necessary with KDE, which _should_ be able to use the ALSA > > > > interface. Do you have the alsa USE flag set? > > > > > > Hmm, no > > > Changed the KDE sound system to ALSA same problem. Is there something I would > have to rebuild with the alsa flag? Yes...you can keep arts but have it use alsa if you set the alsa USE flag on arts. Or you can skip arts altogether and have it use alsa by setting +alsa on kdelibs. [ebuild R ] kde-base/arts-3.5.0 +alsa ... [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.0-r1 [3.5.0] -acl +alsa ... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources
Mariusz Pękala wrote:
> Additionally emerge unmerge leaves the remnants of compilation
> process, so you still have to do rm -r on the sources.
I've always liked to keep /usr as read-only as possible. I set a few
variables in /etc/make.conf that (I find) make everything a little more
maintainable:
--- from /etc/make.conf --
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/portage"
DISTDIR="${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/distfiles"
PKGDIR="${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/portage-pkg"
DISTCC_DIR="${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/distcc"
KBUILD_OUTPUT="${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/kernel"
end --
then I have a script that builds the kernel, setting the 'O' (oh, not
zero) parameter so that build output goes into the ${KBUILD_OUTPUT}
directory, and leaves /usr/src/ pristine:
--- excerpt from makekernel script -
sourceDir=/usr/src/linux
workDir=${KBUILD_OUTPUT}
binDir=/boot
target=kernel...
(cd "${sourceDir}" && sudo -u portage make O="${workDir}" menuconfig)
(cd "${workDir}/include" && sudo -u portage lndir "${sourceDir}/include")
(cd "${sourceDir}" && sudo -u portage make O="${workDir}")
(cd "${sourceDir}" && make O="${workDir}" modules_install)
cp "${workDir}/arch/${arch}/boot/bzImage" "${binDir}/${target}"
-- end ---
I've been using this script (full script inlined below) for more than a
year without problems. The lndir line is there to appease packages that
build kernel modules, and expect to find ${KBUILD_OUTPUT}/include
populated with header files. make is run as user 'portage' since some
packages like to run make O="${KBUILD_OUTPUT}" mrproper, so user portage
needs write access.
--myk
-- makekernel script
#!/bin/sh
#
# makekernel
#
# written by Myk Taylor, 2004
# 'makekernel' without parameters will build and install the custom
kernel for
# the local machine (that is, it will use the config file named
.config
# where HOSTNAME is the hostname of the local host in caps) For example,
# TUX.config would be the config file for host 'tux'.
# 'makekernel ' will build and install only that specific
kernel, that is,
# it will used the file named .config
# 'makekernel all' will build and install all kernel confs in the current
# directory (a kernel conf is identified as a file with an all-caps
stem and a
# '.config' extension)
[ -f /etc/make.conf ] && source /etc/make.conf
# script parameters
sourceDir="/usr/src/linux"
workDir="${KBUILD_OUTPUT:-/tmp/kernel}"
binDir="/boot"
# get a list of config stems
configNames="$*"
# if 'all' is one of the config names, set configNames to be all the
# config files in the current directory
# elif no parameters specified, use local kernel config
if [ ! -z "`echo ${configNames} | grep -w 'all'`" ]; then
configNames=`ls | grep '^[A-Z0-9 _-]*\.config$' | sed
's/\.config//'`
elif [ -z "${configNames}" ]; then
configNames="`hostname | sed 's/\..*//' | tr a-z A-Z`"
fi
# do some sanity checking
versionFile="${sourceDir}/Makefile"
if [ ! -f "${versionFile}" ]; then
echo "${versionFile} not found"
exit 1
fi
if [ "`echo ${configNames} | grep '[^A-Z0-9 _-]'`" ]; then
echo "config file name stems should be in all caps"
exit 1
fi
echo "Making kernel(s): `echo -n ${configNames}`"
osvString="^VERSION = "
osplString="^PATCHLEVEL = "
osslString="^SUBLEVEL = "
osevString="^EXTRAVERSION = "
osv=`grep "${osvString}" "${versionFile}" | sed "s/${osvString}//"`
ospl=`grep "${osplString}" "${versionFile}" | sed "s/${osplString}//"`
ossl=`grep "${osslString}" "${versionFile}" | sed "s/${osslString}//"`
osev=`grep "${osevString}" "${versionFile}" | sed "s/${osevString}//"`
if [ ! -z "${osv}" -a ! -z "${ospl}" -a ! -z "${ossl}" -a ! -z "${osev}"
]; then
osr="${osv}.${ospl}.${ossl}${osev}"
else
osr="${osr:-'Unknown'}"
fi
kerPrefix="kernel."
dateStr="`date +%Y%m%d`"
kerSuffix=-"${osr}.${dateStr}"
for configName in ${configNames}; do
configFileName="${configName}.config"
# add more architectures as required
if [ ! -z "`grep '^CONFIG_X86_64=y' \"${configFileName}\"`" ]; then
arch="x86_64"
elif [ ! -z "`grep '^CONFIG_X86=y' \"${configFileName}\"`" ]; then
arch="i386"
else
echo "cannot determine target architecture in
${configFileName}"
echo "the script probably needs to be updated"
exit 1
fi
target="${kerPrefix}${configName}${kerSuffix}"
echo "==> building ${binDir}/${target} from ${configFileName}"
mkdir -p "${workDir}" && chown portage:portage "${workDir}"
cp "${configFileName}" "${workDir}/.config" && chown
portage:portage "${workDir}/.config" || exit 1
(cd "${sourceDir}" && sudo -u portage make O="${workDir}"
menuconfig) || exit 1
(cd "${workDir}/include" && sudo -u portage lndir
"${sourceDir}/include" > /dev/null) || exit 1
(cd "${sourceDir}" && sudo -u portage make O="${workDir}
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
On Sunday 18 December 2005 12:13, a tiny voice compelled LostSon to write: > > > Wait til Holly sees this > > I made that comment because I had used ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on the command line as you did and I got the same stern lecture that I expected Holly would give you. I went on to say that unless you added the KDE packages to package.keywords, you could expect a lot of other packages to want to downgrade next emerge -u world. You mentioned that you didn't want to waste time writing to package.keywords, but were unwilling to accept advice that would save you a lot more time down the road. If you read other comments in this thread and others, (pay attention to a few of my recent threads) you'll find commands and scripts to automate appending the KDE-3.5.0 packages and thier dependancies to /etc/portage/package.keywords. It would seem to me that time is not your issue here, but rather stubbornness. > > No, no, Ernie, you've covered the meat of any warning I would give with > > relation to LostSon's suggestion, but I'll say it again: > > Thank you all for blasting me about how i do things. Im sorry I dont do > things the perfect "gentoo way" you think they should be done. however I > feel when KDE releases a new version to the mirrors it is time to install > it. I have had discussions about the whole Deep world thing and everytime i > have used it in the past it breaks something so i simply do not use it. I > sync everyday and emerge -up world my system to see what is coming in or > going out on each of my 4 gentoo boxes at home. I was merely offering a > suggestion on how to quicky get KDE-3.5 installled. Oh well you run your > boxes your way and i will run mine my way. Happy Holidays! > > LostSon -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 19:16:16 up 8:17, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.11, 0.25 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cups/Sane and The Brother MFC-7420
On Sunday 18 December 2005 17:00, Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Cups/Sane and The Brother MFC-7420':
> Did you try emergeing foomatic-db w/ USE="ppds" ?
> there are a bunch of Brother ppds in there.
Actually, yes, I have. Unfortunately, these ppds do not cover my printer.
More information I promised:
# emerge --info
Portage 2.1_pre1 (default-linux/amd64/2005.1, gcc-4.1.0-beta20051216,
glibc-2.3.6-r1, 2.6.14-gentoo-r4 x86_64)
=
System uname: 2.6.14-gentoo-r4 x86_64 Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor
275
Gentoo Base System version 1.12.0_pre11
distcc 2.18.3 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632)
[disabled]
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
dev-lang/python: 2.4.2
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7
sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1
sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r1
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.20-r1
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r3
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-O3 -march=opteron -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env
/usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/kde/3.5/env
/usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/kde/3/share/config
/usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O3 -march=opteron -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig buildpkg ccache distlocks fixpackages sandbox sfperms
strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo";
MAKEOPTS="-j5"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="amd64 X a52 aac aalib acl acpi alsa apm arts async audiofile avi
bash-completion berkdb bidi bitmap-fonts bl browserplugin bzip2 cdparanoia
cdr crypt cscope css cups curl dbus dga directfb dts dv dvb dvd dvdr
dvdread edl eds elf emacs emboss encode esd exif expat fam fame fbcon
ffmpeg flac foomaticdb fortran fuse gd gdbm gif gimp gimpprint glut gmp
gnutls gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile hal howl idn ieee1394
imagemagick imlib ipv6 jack java javascript jpeg junit kde kdeenablefinal
kerberos lcms ldap lesstif libcaca libg++ libwww licaca lm_sensors
logitech-mouse lzo lzw lzw-tiff mad mikmod mjpeg mng motif mozilla mp3
mpeg mplayer musepack musicbrainz mysql nas ncurses nls nptl nsplugin
ntlm_unsupported_patch odbc ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam pcre pda pdflib
perl png postgres ppds python qt quicktime rdesktop readline real rtc
samba sasl sblive scanner sdl slang slp smp sndfile snmp spell sqlite ssl
svg syslog tcltk tcpd tetex tga theora threads tidy tiff truetype
truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev unicode usb userlocales v4l v4l2 vcd
vorbis wifi wmf xanim xine xinerama xml xml2 xmms xpm xprint xv xvid zlib
elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU"
Unset: ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS
# emerge -pv cups
[ebuild R ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r5 USE="-cjk +gnutls +nls +pam
+samba +slp +ssl" 0 kB
# zcat Brother-MFC-7420.ppd.gz
*PPD-Adobe: "4.3"
*%
*% Copyright(C) 2003 Brother Industries, Ltd.
*% "Brother MFC-7420 for CUPS"
*%
*% General Information Keywords
*FormatVersion: "4.3"
*FileVersion: "1.00"
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*LanguageVersion: English
*PCFileName: "BRMFC7420_CUPS.PPD"
*Product: "(Brother MFC-7420 series)"
*cupsVersion: 1.1
*cupsManualCopies: True
*cupsModelNumber: 68
*cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-postscript 0 brlpdwrapperMFC7420"
*PSVersion: "(3010.106) 3"
*ModelName: "MFC-7420"
*NickName: "Brother MFC-7420 for CUPS"
*% Basic Device Capabilities =
*LanguageLevel: "3"
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*ColorDevice: False
*DefaultColorSpace: Gray
*FileSystem: True
*?FileSystem:"
save
/devname (%disk0%) def
/ret false def
0 1 7{
devname exch 48 add 5 exch put
devname devstatus {
0 ne {/ret true def}if
pop pop pop pop pop pop pop
}if
}for
ret {(True)}{(False)} ifelse = flush
restore
"
*End
*Throughput: "18"
*FreeVM: "170"
*% Installable Options ===
*% Media Selection ==
*OpenUI *PageSize: PickOne
*OrderDependency: 30 AnySetup *PageSize
*DefaultPageSize: A4
*PageSize Letter/Letter:
*PageSize Legal/Legal:
*PageSize Executive/Executive:
*PageSize A4/A4:
*PageSize A5/A5:
*PageSize A6/A6:
*PageSize Env10/Com-10:
*PageSize EnvMonarch/Monarch:
*PageSize EnvDL/DL:
*PageSize EnvC5/C5:
*PageSize EnvISOB5/B5:
*PageSize EnvISOB6/B6:
*CloseUI: *PageSize
*OpenUI *PageRegion: PickOne
*OrderDependency: 40 AnyS
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
Holly Bostick wrote: > > It's not like the world is going to end if you don't have KDE 3.5 > /today/ as opposed to two weeks from today (probably sooner, since KDE > is a high-demand package, and people will start to b**ch if it's not > stable some specified time after the well-known upstream release date). > The minimum time in ~arch is a month (special circumstances like security bugs excluded). With bigger things like KDE it is usually more than a a month because there is so much to test. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] fresh install startup problem
My fresh install ~x86 has a couple of bugs. 1. first boot gets through the kernel, and at least into the rtc with modules already loaded, then reboots, everytime? 2. sometimes upon booting it stops and says /dev/hda5 and /dev/hda6 cannot e2fsck because they were mounted? my wireless eth1 stops for no reason sometimes... Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 | Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com | Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Remore control of current desktop
Is there a utility that will allow you to take control of the current Linux desktop from a remote machine? This is the way VNC works in windows. Open VNC on a remote machine and you see the exact same thing you see on the local monitor, including any running programs. Under Linux, however, VNC (at least the versions I've tried) opens up a new desktop which is separate from the currently running desktop. This is a neat and useful tool, but it's not what I need. Are there, perhaps, any VNC app which offers this feature under Linux? Or some other way to do it? If it all possible, it needs to be OS independent (take control of a Linux server frrom a client running on Windows and vice versa.) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing Specific Kernel Sources
Thanks, Myk Taylor wrote: > emerge -C gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 > or > emerge -C =gentoo-sources-2.6.12-r10 > > -C is short for --unmerge This did what I wanted it to do. I had the command right, I was just using the wrong name - I used linux-sources. What can I say ... I'm still learning! :-) This also helped me get rid of a kernel source that had installed when I did an 'emerge --update --deep world' shortly after starting to use Gentoo, but I never did the actual upgrade. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Make changes to routing table permanent
Every time I reboot my system, it comes up with the wrong default route. I use the "route" command to delete the old default route and add the new one. When I reboot, it comes back up with the wrong default route again. How do I make the change permanent? Or what could be cause it to reset? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
Ernie Schroder wrote: Thank you all for blasting me about how i do things. Im sorry I dont do things the perfect "gentoo way" you think they should be done. however I feel when KDE releases a new version to the mirrors it is time to install it. I have had discussions about the whole Deep world thing and everytime i have used it in the past it breaks something so i simply do not use it. I sync everyday and emerge -up world my system to see what is coming in or going out on each of my 4 gentoo boxes at home. I was merely offering a suggestion on how to quicky get KDE-3.5 installled. Oh well you run your boxes your way and i will run mine my way. Happy Holidays! LostSon I'm not going to blast you or anything but lets see if I can make this real easy. Can you copy and paste? There is a list on the forums with what you need in package.keywords file. It's here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-407352-postdays-0-postorder-asc-start-0.html Also read this post I made here. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2959637.html#2959637 There are some dependancies in there as well. That should make it as easy as watching the sunset. :) Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remore control of current desktop
On 12/18/05, Daniel D Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need. Are there, perhaps, any VNC app which offers this feature under > Linux? x11-misc/x11vnc should do what you want. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
051218 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:27:50 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: >> I consider 'world' an unsatisfactory feature of Gentoo & never use it >> except for 'emerge -Dup world' to get an ordering for updates >> before emerging some of them individually in a weekly session. > No wonder you find world unsatisfactory > unless you use --oneshot every time Of course I do, when the package is not already in world or system: there's now an easy abbreviation '-1'. But thanks for pointing out yet another negative feature of 'world' ... >> Otherwise, I keep a list of all the packages I have installed >> -- something Gentoo should provide automatically, but 'world' doesn't, > Yes it does. world provides a list of all packages YOU have installed. Rubbish ! It doesn't list packages installed in support of another during the same emerge command. > qpkg -I > equery list > find /var/db/pkg -name '*.ebuild' > will all do this. Yes exactly, as I said, I started my own list from 'qpkg -I', but that doesn't update the list nor tell me when/why I installed things. Really, I am constantly shocked by the blinkers some people wear: "That's the way you're supposed to do it & everyone else does". Anyway, enough of this side-issue for now. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban & Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Minor Startup Issue
Richard Fish wrote: >On 12/17/05, C. Beamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Hi all, >> >>Up until now, when the computer boots and goes through its startup >>routine, the screen will "blip" and then the text that is scrolling by >>on the screen prior to starting the gui interface, reduces in size. >>Now, the screen still does a slight "blip", but the screen font remains >>the same size as it was prior to the "blip". >> >> > >The 'blip' is usually when the framebuffer graphics driver turns on >and changes the video mode. Since you are not seeing any difference, >either the framebuffer driver is failing, or you are now using just >the plain vga driver instead of something more advanced (like >vesafb-tng). > >Take a look at what you have under "Device Drivers->Graphics Support", >the answer is probably in there. > I played with this for the better part of the afternoon. Nothing changed. I *do* have vesafb-tng enabled. This might be way out in left field, but I compared something between my laptop, which works fine loading the framebuffer device running kernel 2.6.14-r4 and my desktop which I upgraded to kernel 2.6.14-r5. Running menuconfig, the following lines show: Device Drivers ---> Character Devices ---> [*] Virtual terminal [*] Support for console on virtual terminal There are no such lines in running menuconfig on my desktop. The difference *could* be laptop<-->desktop, but I thought I would ask. Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Make changes to routing table permanent
On Sunday 18 December 2005 18:49, Daniel D Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Make changes to routing table permanent': > Every time I reboot my system, it comes up with the wrong default route. > I use the "route" command to delete the old default route and add the > new one. When I reboot, it comes back up with the wrong default route > again. How do I make the change permanent? Or what could be cause it > to reset? Read /etc/conf.d/net.example and modify your /etc/conf.d/net appropriately. There is at least one example that shows how to change the route when a interface comes up. If you have using dhcp, your client daemon might be changing your routes. Check its documentation for how to stop this behavior. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Make changes to routing table permanent
On Monday 19 December 2005 00:49, Daniel D Jones wrote: > Every time I reboot my system, it comes up with the wrong default route. I > use the "route" command to delete the old default route and add the new > one. When I reboot, it comes back up with the wrong default route again. > How do I make the change permanent? Or what could be cause it to reset? It will be set in /etc/conf.d/net - you should be able to see the incorrect one in there and change it. Unless of course you're using dhcp, then your dhcp server may be supplying you with the wrong route - fixing that depends on the server... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Make changes to routing table permanent
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 19:49 -0500, Daniel D Jones wrote: > Every time I reboot my system, it comes up with the wrong default route. I > use the "route" command to delete the old default route and add the new one. > > When I reboot, it comes back up with the wrong default route again. How do I > make the change permanent? Or what could be cause it to reset? Try /etc/conf.d/net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remore control of current desktop
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 19:46 -0500, Daniel D Jones wrote: > Is there a utility that will allow you to take control of the current Linux > desktop from a remote machine? This is the way VNC works in windows. Open > VNC on a remote machine and you see the exact same thing you see on the local > monitor, including any running programs. Under Linux, however, VNC (at least > the versions I've tried) opens up a new desktop which is separate from the > currently running desktop. This is a neat and useful tool, but it's not what > I need. Are there, perhaps, any VNC app which offers this feature under > Linux? Or some other way to do it? If it all possible, it needs to be OS > independent (take control of a Linux server frrom a client running on Windows > and vice versa.) In Gnome, it's called Vino. This option is also available in VNC 4.0 IIRC. (but Vino surely does it) -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 09:37:10 up 1 day, 8:39, 4 users, load average: 1.16, 0.80, 1.81 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udevstart at boot?
On Sunday 18 December 2005 18:54, a tiny voice compelled Richard Fish to write: > On 12/18/05, Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What are the permissions that it is being created with? (Do "ls -l > > > > /dev/dsp" from a console after startup without logging into KDE). > > > > (loged into kde but I have not done # udevstart as of yet): > > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 18 03:45 /dev/dsp -> sound/dsp > > Damn symlinks. Need to see: > > ls -l /dev/sound/dsp ls -l /dev/sound/dsp crw-rw 1 root audio 14, 3 Dec 18 05:59 /dev/sound/dsp users are in the audio group > > > > > tar -tjvf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 > > > > > > $ sudo tar -tjvf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 | grep dsp > > > crw--- root/audio14,19 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp1 > > > crw--- root/audio14,35 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp2 > > > crw--- root/audio14,51 2004-02-19 04:28:48 dsp3 > > No /dev/dsp, so your tarball can't be having any effect here... The tarball has to be having some effect. When I turned it off and rebooted, I had no /dev/nvidia* devices. I recreated them, turned TARBALL back on and added /sbin/udevstart to /etc/conf.d/local.start. This might not be the right way to solve this but it does the trick. I would however like to fix this the right way. > > -Richard -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 19:30:44 up 8:31, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.12 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mixing amd64 and x86 libraries
Fellow Gentoo Users - Here's the scenario: I have a x86 commerical, close-sourced application that is linked against x86 ncurses. The system that this program executes on is amd64. Is there a way I can emerge ncurses so that the result is two installs, one for x86 and one for amd64? Thanks ~ Tom -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
Philip Webb schreef: > 051218 Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:27:50 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: >> > >>> Otherwise, I keep a list of all the packages I have installed -- >>> something Gentoo should provide automatically, but 'world' >>> doesn't, >> >> Yes it does. world provides a list of all packages YOU have >> installed. > > > Rubbish ! It doesn't list packages installed in support of another > during the same emerge command. > This is exactly what Neil meant... if you install... oh, pysol, and it installs pysol-sound-server in support, only pysol will be written to world, because that is what YOU installed (emerge pysol). You didn't emerge pysol-sound-server explicitly; it was installed as a dependency, and dependencies are not written to your world file. However, if you then unmerge pysol, and run emerge depclean (-p), pysol-sound-server will be listed as eligible to be removed (as an orphaned dependency of an unmerged program formerly in your world file). That's how Portage works. Sorry you don't like it, but claiming that correct instructions on the working of the distribution's tools is just our "blinkered opinion" about "how one is supposed to do it & everyone else does" is,,, unjustified. But as you say, enough. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
Mark Knecht schreef: > > Do anyone know what was meant by the final comment? I've copied it > here for ease of discussion. How do I set the Java VM to the JDK? Why > is this recommended? 1) java-config. 2) because you won't then get the errors you reported at the beginning of this thread :-) . At least with Sun java; I switched a while ago to support the java apps I use that require 1.5.0, and don't remember so much how blackdown works anymore. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
On Sunday 18 December 2005 21:20, a tiny voice compelled Holly Bostick to write: > That's how Portage works. Sorry you don't like it, but claiming that > correct instructions on the working of the distribution's tools is just > our "blinkered opinion" about "how one is supposed to do it & everyone > else does" is,,, unjustified. > > But as you say, enough. > > Holly The lady has a way with words! -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 21:43:47 up 10:44, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.32, 0.49 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mixing amd64 and x86 libraries
Build ncurses manually ("ebuild [package] unpack compile install").
Using ldd, find what libs the application needs, locate them in the
ncurses install directory and copy them somewhere handy. Use
"LD_PRELOAD=/path/to/lib/libname application" to preload the required
library before running your application. Lots on the net about
LD_PRELOAD if you need more.
BillK
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 21:15 -0500, Tom Carroll wrote:
> Fellow Gentoo Users -
>
> Here's the scenario: I have a x86 commerical, close-sourced application
> that is linked against x86 ncurses. The system that this program
> executes on is amd64. Is there a way I can emerge ncurses so that the
> result is two installs, one for x86 and one for amd64?
>
> Thanks
>
> ~ Tom
>
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
On 12/18/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht schreef: > > > > Do anyone know what was meant by the final comment? I've copied it > > here for ease of discussion. How do I set the Java VM to the JDK? Why > > is this recommended? > > 1) java-config. OK. Thanks Holly. But if I'm going to set the VM to be the jdk, then why install the jre? I guess I have no clue about the difference between the jre and the jdk or why both are needed or what each one does. I can say that installing the jdk broke one aspect of the sun jre. Bummer for me. > > 2) because you won't then get the errors you reported at the beginning > of this thread :-) . At least with Sun java; I switched a while ago to > support the java apps I use that require 1.5.0, and don't remember so > much how blackdown works anymore. The problem is, for me and as far as I know, the Sun jre doesn't have browser support in the 64-bit arena so that's been an issue for me here. Thanks for the info. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Java install question
On Dec 18, 2005, at 8:58 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On 12/18/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark Knecht schreef: Do anyone know what was meant by the final comment? I've copied it here for ease of discussion. How do I set the Java VM to the JDK? Why is this recommended? 1) java-config. OK. Thanks Holly. But if I'm going to set the VM to be the jdk, then why install the jre? I guess I have no clue about the difference between the jre and the jdk or why both are needed or what each one does. I can say that installing the jdk broke one aspect of the sun jre. Bummer for me. this has always confused me...if you install the jdk, in the path with the jdk (/usr/local/java for instance), there's a jre directory...you have /usr/local/java/bin/java and /usr/local/java/jre/ bin/java.both. so you don't need to install both. the jdk is INCLUSIVE of the jre. 2) because you won't then get the errors you reported at the beginning of this thread :-) . At least with Sun java; I switched a while ago to support the java apps I use that require 1.5.0, and don't remember so much how blackdown works anymore. The problem is, for me and as far as I know, the Sun jre doesn't have browser support in the 64-bit arena so that's been an issue for me here. Thanks for the info. - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need help correcting my DNS configuration
It's a local setup. I don't even know if my ISP will allow me to run a public DNS server. My last ISP didn't. This is purely intra-espersunited.com so that when the cable Internet goes out (which it frequently does) my applications which require knowing what host they're running on. They don't seem to be smart enough to look at /etc/hosts. Some people on one of my Linux lists suggested that if I set up DNS for my network that shouldn't be a problem anymore... Ah, ok. Yeah, split-horizon DNS does work quite well.. just a bit more to update. I lost your original post, or I'd be more useful. Hrm, did you remember to make your local DNS server the authoritative DNS server for the domain? (in named.conf) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] initrd where is the docu
Plowing thru the piles of documentation on gentoo.org looking for something that tells me where initrd's come from and how they are built. Amid the litterally thousands of hits on intrid and intitramfs that are about lilo or grub I'm not finding info that tells how and where they are created. The words simply do not appear in the three kernel related docs I've scanned. At least not in an informative context. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] initrd where is the docu
mkinitrd :) you shouldn't need that with a 2.6 kernel, though. On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plowing thru the piles of documentation on gentoo.org looking for something that tells me where initrd's come from and how they are built. Amid the litterally thousands of hits on intrid and intitramfs that are about lilo or grub I'm not finding info that tells how and where they are created. The words simply do not appear in the three kernel related docs I've scanned. At least not in an informative context. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Whats a good SIP/VoIP soft phone for linux
Whats a good SIP/VoIP soft phone for linux (linphone, gnophone, SimpleH323, ...) I need something simple to set things up with the least hassle, and then perhaps something good to actually use - if they dont overlap(!) BillK -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cntrl menu,other browser fnts (not wwwpage fnts)-firefox
Can anyone point me to documentation that tells how to control the various non www page fonts involved in firefox? I mean like the menus or what appears in the location box. The kde system settings appear to be ignored. And the help menu and release notes appear not to talk about it at all. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting to kde 3.5
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:46:27 -0500 Ernie Schroder wrote: > > But as you say, enough. > > > > Holly > > > The lady has a way with words! > -- > Regards, Ernie particularly for someone from the .nl domain :-/ -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > mkinitrd :) > > you shouldn't need that with a 2.6 kernel, though. Is it not required for the trademark gentoo boot up with nifty graphics? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > mkinitrd :) man mkinitrd No manual entry for mkinitrd man -k mkinitrd mkinitrd: nothing appropriate -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: mkinitrd :) you shouldn't need that with a 2.6 kernel, though. Is it not required for the trademark gentoo boot up with nifty graphics? hmm, that may be. I prefer not to bother with that mess. Simplicity is. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:36:11 -0600 reader wrote: > John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > mkinitrd :) > > > > you shouldn't need that with a 2.6 kernel, though. > > Is it not required for the trademark gentoo boot up with nifty graphics? who cares, real men don't reboot :-) -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> mkinitrd :) > > man mkinitrd > No manual entry for mkinitrd > > man -k mkinitrd > mkinitrd: nothing appropriate Never mind esearch mkinitrd * sys-apps/mkinitrd Latest version available: 4.2.0.3 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 61 kB Homepage:http://www.redhat.com/ Description: Tools for creating initrd images License: GPL-2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
On Dec 18, 2005, at 9:47 PM, Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:36:11 -0600 reader wrote: John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: mkinitrd :) you shouldn't need that with a 2.6 kernel, though. Is it not required for the trademark gentoo boot up with nifty graphics? who cares, real men don't reboot :-) but if you DID want to make one...: sys-apps/mkinitrd Latest version available: 3.5.7-r2 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 51 kB Homepage:http://www.redhat.com Description: Tools for creating initrd images License: GPL-2 -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cntrl menu,other browser fnts (not wwwpage fnts)-firefox
On Sunday 18 December 2005 21:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Cntrl menu,other browser fnts (not wwwpage fnts)-firefox': > Can anyone point me to documentation that tells how to control the > various non www page fonts involved in firefox? > > I mean like the menus or what appears in the location box. Firefox uses gtk for rendering so you need to change your gtk theme/fonts. > The kde system settings appear to be ignored. And the help menu and > release notes appear not to talk about it at all. Since you are using kde, I suggest emerging x11-themes/gtk-engines-qt. It will give you a kcontrol applet for changing your gtk theme and also install a theme that uses qt to render the gtk widgets. Qt will use your kde theme. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: initrd where is the docu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: mkinitrd :) you shouldn't need that with a 2.6 kernel, though. Is it not required for the trademark gentoo boot up with nifty graphics? The installer initramfs is created by genkernel. I use it myself to generate an initramfs with gensplash support. The splash-themes-livecd package contains the splash screens used by the installer. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ssomething dorked up in /etc/init.d
I completed an emerge -v -uD --newuse world a while ago and am noticing something very wrong in the starting of services. I went thru the 50 or so new .cfg000* files and installed most of them after seeing nothing I recognized as as wrong in the diffs. I only kept ones I'd changed by hand and new I needed certain stuff. Now I get a big confusing blob when I try to start a service from the stnadard way: /etc/init.d/NAME start/stop/status Several of the .cfg* files were destined for that directory so I'm guessing I somehow botched one or more up, although I did no editing. It was just overwrite existing with new or not. On reboot most services failed with the output below. I think the problem is superficial in that the same services can be started by hand by and large. I started sshd sendmail network etc from the command line and have those services to use. `revdep rebuild' shows a herd of broken stuff but it all seems to revolve around libMagick and some of the koffice stuff. I'm waiting for the oneshots to complete now. I didn't notice anything in the broken list that looks like it might be responsible for this init thing. = EXample output: /etc/init/samba start * Caching service dependencies ... * Starting eth1 * adsl does not support the required function provides * apipa does not support the required function check_installed * arping does not support the required function provides * bonding does not support the required function provides * bridge does not support the required function provides * dhclient does not support the required function provides * dhcpcd does not support the required function provides * essidnet does not support the required function check_install * ifconfig does not support the required function provides * ifplugd does not support the required function provides * ipppd does not support the required function provides * iproute2 does not support the required function provides * iptunnel does not support the required function check_install * iwconfig does not support the required function provides * macchanger does not support the required function check_insta * macnet does not support the required function check_installed * netplugd does not support the required function provides * pppd does not support the required function provides * pump does not support the required function provides * rename does not support the required function check_installed * system does not support the required function check_installed * tuntap does not support the required function provides * udhcpc does not support the required function provides * vlan does not support the required function provides * wpa_supplicant does not support the required function provide * no interface module has been loaded * ERROR: Problem starting needed services. * "samba" was not started. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
