[gentoo-user] What does the use flag "gtk" for gcc?

2006-02-23 Thread Wolfgang Liebich
Hi,
I did a query for packages using the gtk use flag. I found gcc
(3.4.4-r1) among these. Why?
Baffled
Wolfgang
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[gentoo-user] Re: Screen settings

2006-02-23 Thread Rajat Gujral
Hi frino , steve

i have added defaultdepth 24 to xorg.conf file but it still takes the
resolution as 640 x 480 ... I have checked the control panel
>pheripherals > display and there is only 1 resolution availiable
nothing else ..

Now what shld i do pls help me through it ...


Thanx and rgds


Rajat

On 2/23/06, Steven S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Rajat Gujral wrote:
>
> Have you tried adding the option DefaultDepth? Since you have the Modes
> 1024x768 for 24, it should come out looking
> like:
>
>   Section "Screen"
>  Identifier "Screen0"
>  Device "Card0"
>  Monitor"Monitor0"
>   DefaultDepth 24
>  SubSection "Display"
>  Viewport   0 0
>  Depth 1
>  EndSubSection
>
> This is the only way I am ever able to get my system to go to 1280x1024,
> possibly it'll force yours to the correct setting.
>
> > Hi richard and jerry
> > thanx for ur suggestions but i guess my problem remains the same ... My
> > xserver still starts with screen resolution of 640 x 480 ... Before the
> > improper shutdown it was working fine in 1024 x 768 resolution , but now
> no
> > matter what resolution i provide, it starts up with 640 x 480 resolution
> > which makes the screen appear so big .. Is there anything else that i can
> do
> >
> >
> > Thnx & Regds
> >
> >
> > Rajat :)
> >
> >
> > P.S. I have done "X -configure" and has detected the following settings :
> >
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> >Identifier "X.org Configured"
> >Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> >InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> >InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Files"
> >RgbPath  "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
> >ModulePath   "/usr/lib/modules"
> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Module"
> >Load  "extmod"
> >Load  "dbe"
> >Load  "dri"
> >Load  "record"
> >Load  "xtrap"
> >Load  "glx"
> >Load  "type1"
> >Load  "freetype"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> >Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> >Driver  "kbd"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> >Identifier  "Mouse0"
> >Driver  "mouse"
> >Option  "Protocol" "Microsoft"
> >Option  "Device" "/dev/ttyS1"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Monitor"
> >Identifier   "Monitor0"
> >VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
> >ModelName"Monitor Model"
> > EndSection
> > Section "Device"
> >### Available Driver options are:-
> >### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
> >### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
> >### [arg]: arg optional
> >#Option "NoAccel"   # []
> >#Option "SWcursor"  # []
> >#Option "ColorKey"  # 
> >#Option "CacheLines"# 
> >#Option "Dac6Bit"   # []
> >#Option "DRI"   # []
> >#Option "NoDDC" # []
> >#Option "ShowCache" # []
> >#Option "XvMCSurfaces"  # 
> >#Option "PageFlip"  # []
> >Identifier  "Card0"
> >Driver  "i810"
> >VendorName  "Intel Corp."
> >BoardName   "82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]"
> >BusID   "PCI:0:1:0"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Screen"
> >Identifier "Screen0"
> >Device "Card0"
> >Monitor"Monitor0"
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Viewport   0 0
> >Depth 1
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Viewport   0 0
> >Depth 4
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Viewport   0 0
> >Depth 8
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Viewport   0 0
> >Depth 15
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Viewport   0 0
> >Depth 16
> >Modes "1024x768"
> >EndSubSection
> >SubSection "Display"
> >Viewport   0 0
> >Depth 24
> >Modes "1024x768"
> >EndSubSection
> > EndSection
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/22/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2/22/06, Jerry Eastmanhouser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> settings.  I did mine manually a long long time ago, but I think you can
> >> use
> >>> xo

[gentoo-user] Re: Screen settings

2006-02-23 Thread Rajat Gujral
hello all,

I was just goin thru Xorg.0.log file and i notice that after doing
startx some errors are being logged on the system ... I hope if someone
know what exactly  does this error means then please help me
resolve it.

Thanx in advance 

rgds 

rajat
P.S. : Here with attached is the log file generated by startx


On 2/23/06, Rajat Gujral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi frino , stevei have added defaultdepth 24 to xorg.conf file but it still takes theresolution as 640 x 480 ... I have checked the control panel>pheripherals > display and there is only 1 resolution availiable
nothing else ..Now what shld i do pls help me through it ...Thanx and rgdsRajatOn 2/23/06, Steven S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Rajat Gujral wrote:>> Have you tried adding the option DefaultDepth? Since you have the Modes> 1024x768 for 24, it should come out looking> like:>
>   Section "Screen">  Identifier "Screen0">  Device "Card0">  Monitor"Monitor0">   DefaultDepth 24>  SubSection "Display"
>  Viewport  
0 0>  Depth
1>  EndSubSection>> This is the only way I am ever able to get my system to go to 1280x1024,> possibly it'll force yours to the correct setting.>> > Hi richard and jerry
> > thanx for ur suggestions but i guess my problem remains the same ... My> > xserver still starts with screen resolution of 640 x 480 ... Before the> > improper shutdown it was working fine in 1024 x 768 resolution , but now
> no> > matter what resolution i provide, it starts up with 640 x 480 resolution> > which makes the screen appear so big .. Is there anything else that i can> do> >> >
> > Thnx & Regds> >> >> > Rajat :)> >> >> > P.S. I have done "X -configure" and has detected the following settings :> >> > Section "ServerLayout"
> >Identifier "X.org Configured"> >Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0> >InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> >InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"> > EndSection> >> > Section "Files"> >RgbPath  "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
> >ModulePath   "/usr/lib/modules"> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"> >FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"> > EndSection
> >> > Section "Module"> >Load  "extmod"> >Load  "dbe"> >Load  "dri"> >Load  "record"
> >Load  "xtrap"> >Load  "glx"> >Load  "type1"> >Load  "freetype"> > EndSection> >> > Section "InputDevice"
> >Identifier  "Keyboard0"> >Driver  "kbd"> > EndSection> >> > Section "InputDevice"> >Identifier  "Mouse0"
> >Driver  "mouse"> >Option  "Protocol" "Microsoft"> >Option  "Device" "/dev/ttyS1"> > EndSection
> >> > Section "Monitor"> >Identifier   "Monitor0"> >VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"> >ModelName"Monitor Model"
> > EndSection> > Section "Device"> >### Available Driver options are:->
>### Values:
: integer, : float, : "True"/"False",> >### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"> >### [arg]: arg optional
>
>#Option
"NoAccel"  
# []>
>#Option
"SWcursor"  #
[]>
>#Option
"ColorKey"  #
>
>#Option
"CacheLines"#
>
>#Option
"Dac6Bit"  
# []>
>#Option
"DRI"  
# []>
>#Option
"NoDDC"
# []>
>#Option
"ShowCache"
# []>
>#Option
"XvMCSurfaces"  #
>
>#Option
"PageFlip"  #
[]> >Identifier  "Card0"> >Driver  "i810"> >VendorName  "Intel Corp."> >BoardName   "82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]"
> >BusID   "PCI:0:1:0"> > EndSection> >> > Section "Screen"> >Identifier "Screen0"> >Device "Card0"
> >Monitor"Monitor0"> >SubSection "Display">
>Viewport  
0 0>
>Depth
1> >EndSubSection> >SubSection "Display">
>Viewport  
0 0>
>Depth
4> >EndSubSection> >SubSection "Display">
>Viewport  
0 0>
>Depth
8> >EndSubSection> >SubSection "Display">
>Viewport  
0 0>
>Depth
15> >EndSubSection> >SubSection "Display">
>Viewport  
0 0>
>Depth
16>
>Modes
"1024x768"> >EndSubSection> >SubSection "Display">
>Viewport  
0 0>
>Depth
24>
>Modes
"1024x768"> >EndSubSection> > EndSec

[gentoo-user] amd64/x86

2006-02-23 Thread jarry
Hi,

I'm going to install Gentoo on Athlon64-based workstation,
but I'm a little confused about hardware profiles and their
compatibility:

If I select now amd64, will I be able later to install and
use x86 software, if there is no amd64 release (for example
precompiled game-binaries, or even some sources which are
only for x86, not amd64)? 

Or do I have to use x86 installation profile?

Jarry

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[gentoo-user] LUKS

2006-02-23 Thread Jorge Almeida

I've been giving LUKS a try. I setup an encrypted partition on an
external HD.
Running
cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/external_hd1 external_hd1
a device file /dev/mapper/external_hd1 is created. I can mount it on
/mnt/external_hd1 and it works as expected.
Now, guess what happens if I run "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/external_hd1 
external_hd1"
again? The file /dev/mapper/external_hd1 disappears (as if 
"cryptsetup luksClose external_hd1" were run).

If /dev/mapper/external_hd1 was mounted on /mnt/external_hd1, it stays
mounted. Otherwise, it seems like cryptsetup luksClose external_hd1...
Confusing?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Screen settings

2006-02-23 Thread Jerry Eastmanhouser
Well here is the thing...your getting a lot of errors in there with respect to the resolution.  I took a snipit that I think is important here.
 

(II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 28.00-33.00 kHz
(II) I810(0): Monitor0: Using default vrefresh range of 43.00-72.00 Hz
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1600x1024" (hsync out of range)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "800x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory for mode)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory for mode)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (insufficient memory for mode)
(II) I810(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
(--) I810(0): Virtual size is 640x480 (pitch 1024)
(**) I810(0): *Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz
(II) I810(0): Modeline "640x480" 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync
(==) I810(0): DPI set to (75, 75)
See how the the horizontal and veritical ranges aren't so hot.  The auto-detection can only do
so much sometimes.  I'm sure your going to have to refer to your monitor manual and plug
in these settings manuallysometimes you can just google for them as well.  For example
on a spare box that I have an old 14inch VGA hooked up to the settings in the xorg.conf file
is as follows.
 
    HorizSync   31,38,46.8,48
    VertRefresh 50-100 
Now this is an old monitor that I took from my office when they were throwing the monitor.
It's old...and yellow and when they were throwing it away it was in 1998my point here is
that the configuration is higher than what you currently have in your config file...I'm guessing
that you have a monitor that is newer than the one I have configured so I'm guessing this is
likely a major part of your problem.  X works so much better if you have the exact configuration in thereand by doing it all by hand you'll also have a much better understanding of how everything works and is setup.  Also copy your /etc folder and store it somewhere. It's only going to be a few meg uncompressed and will save you loads of time later if you have a corruption...blowup or just a reinstall.
 
 
J 
On 2/23/06, Rajat Gujral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hello all,I was just goin thru Xorg.0.log file and i notice that after doing startx some errors are being logged on the system ... I hope if someone know what exactly  does this error means then please help me resolve it.
Thanx in advance rgds rajatP.S. : Here with attached is the log file generated by startx 

On 2/23/06, Rajat Gujral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: 
Hi frino , stevei have added defaultdepth 24 to xorg.conf file but it still takes the
resolution as 640 x 480 ... I have checked the control panel>pheripherals > display and there is only 1 resolution availiable nothing else ..Now what shld i do pls help me through it ...Thanx and rgds
RajatOn 2/23/06, Steven S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Rajat Gujral wrote:
>> Have you tried adding the option DefaultDepth? Since you have the Modes> 1024x768 for 24, it should come out looking> like:> >   Section "Screen">  Identifier "Screen0"
>  Device "Card0">  Monitor"Monitor0">   DefaultDepth 24>  SubSection "Display" >  Viewport   0 0>  Depth 1
>  EndSubSection>> This is the only way I am ever able to get my system to go to 1280x1024,> possibly it'll force yours to the correct setting.>> > Hi richard and jerry 
> > thanx for ur suggestions but i guess my problem remains the same ... My> > xserver still starts with screen resolution of 640 x 480 ... Before the> > improper shutdown it was working fine in 1024 x 768 resolution , but now 
> no> > matter what resolution i provide, it starts up with 640 x 480 resolution> > which makes the screen appear so big .. Is there anything else that i can> do> >> > 
> > Thnx & Regds> >> >> > Rajat :)> >> >> > P.S. I have done "X -configure" and has detected the following settings :> >> > Section "ServerLayout" 
> >Identifier "X.org Configured"> >Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> >InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" > >InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"> > EndSection> >> > S

Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Marton Gabor

Hi!

I also have problems with suspend2. I emerged and compiled the latest 
suspend2-sources, boots fine, hubernates fine. But: I have a Intel 
HDA(alc880) audio card integrated, and I need to use the realtek audio 
pack to make it work which compiles alsa-drivers, alsa-utils, 
etc.(with alsa-drivers from portage the audio card emits wierd 
noises that are extremely loud when I don't play anything), so the 
problem is that if I use a suspend2-sources kernel, alsaconf sais that 
there's no PCI PnP cards in my laptop, everyting works fine with any 
gentoo-sources kernel. Is there someone aware of the solution?


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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-23 Thread Alexander Kirillov
I already think Gentoo base system requirements are a bit heavy just having 
python in there.  (I'm trying to run gentoo on my WRT54G 1.1; storage over 
nfs/nbd)  It would be completely over-the-top to require Modula 3 support 
as well.


Just tried cvsup on a FreeBSD box (in vmware) and it totally sucked.
Took 1hr 20 min to update on a 512KB DSL.

Link wasn't even saturated! Might as well be on 56K connection. DL rate
max I've seen was 8KB/s


BSD ports system may not be as complex as Gentoo's
and needs more attention to maintain port dependencies
but this "abuse of make" IS REAL FAST.
I wish I could check all installed files against recorded md5 sums
as easily as I can do this in FreeBSD.
I took me 20 min to sync ports tree I didn't sync since December
and 7 min to sync system sources.
If you sync regularly it's usually within 5 min.
The good thing about cvsup is that it never fails
which is not the case with rsync.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread joaoemanuel1981

> IMHO you could just use the rest of the disk (after the /boot [hda1] 
> and swap [hda2]), but if you intend to get a /home (or anything), I 
> usually use 10GB for / just in case (still at 50%, but you never 
> know). I got two 40GB disks however, if I were you (and I'm not, so, 
> you can just disconsider what I'll say), I would put 20GB for the 
> system, so you'll probably never run out of space... 
> 
> On 2/16/06, Izar Ilun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
> > I'm installing Gentoo and I'd like you to suggest me how much disc space I 
> > should use for /. 
> > 
> > My machine is Pentium4, 1GB RAM, 200 GB HD ATA 
> > 
> > It's a desktop machine with Gentoo as the only and exclusive OS. 
> > 
> > Will run KDE. Amarok, OpenOffice, firefox 
> > 
> > Thanx! 
> > 
> 
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Do i not understand why needs swap, if have 1GB of RAM?


[gentoo-user] Re: Errors compiling various ebuilds

2006-02-23 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Andrew Frink schrieb:
> On 2/9/06, Thomas Schweikle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> b.n. wrote:
>> >> I am having problems compiling these ebuilds:
>> >>
>> >> dev-java/xml-commons-external-1.3.02
>> >> dev-java/xerces-2.7.1 [2.6.2-r2]
>> >> dev-java/xalan-2.7.0-r1 [2.6.0-r2]
>> >> app-office/openoffice-2.0.1 [1.1.4-r1]
>> >> dev-java/sun-jmx-1.2.1-r1 [1.2.1]
>> >> kde-base/qtruby-3.4.3-r1 [3.4.2]
>> >> kde-base/korundum-3.4.3 [3.4.2]
>> >> Any idea?
>> >
>> > Did you update GCC to 3.4?
>>
>> Yes. It is version 3.4.4:
>> gcc (GCC) 3.4.4 (Gentoo 3.4.4-r1, ssp-3.4.4-1.0, pie-8.7.8)
>> Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There
>> is NO
>> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
>> PURPOSE.
>>
> did follow http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml ?

Yes. I have followed it. This time again. Some ebuilds continued
not building:

dev-java/xml-commons-external-1.3.02
dev-java/xerces-2.7.1
dev-java/xalan-2.7.0-r1
dev-java/sun-jmx-1.2.1-r1

But after emerging them again they build. Looks like the System
is clean again now! --- But it took more than 10 days to compile
all the stuff. Looks like I should think about a new PC
(PII/400, 512MiByte).

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[gentoo-user] Re: Errors compiling various ebuilds

2006-02-23 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Richard Fish schrieb:
> On 2/4/06, Thomas Schweikle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I am having problems compiling these ebuilds:
>>
>> dev-java/xml-commons-external-1.3.02
>> dev-java/xerces-2.7.1 [2.6.2-r2]
>> dev-java/xalan-2.7.0-r1 [2.6.0-r2]
>> app-office/openoffice-2.0.1 [1.1.4-r1]
>> dev-java/sun-jmx-1.2.1-r1 [1.2.1]
>> kde-base/qtruby-3.4.3-r1 [3.4.2]
>> kde-base/korundum-3.4.3 [3.4.2]
> 
> 
> 
>> /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libsmokeqt.so: undefined reference to
>> `QIconView::bufferedPaintEvent(QPaintEvent*)'
> 
> Looks like you need to revdep-rebuild.

This was something I tried first, but without success. I took
the hard way rebuilding everything. Now it is working. All
ebuilds installed compiled --- some needed a second run to
compile successfully, but now I have an up to date system again.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread jarry
"joaoemanuel1981" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do i not understand why needs swap, if have 1GB of RAM?

1. because if you have 200GB disk, cutting 1 or 2GB for swap does not matter

2. because someone told me some apps want to allocate swap no matter how ram
you have (I think it was someone from hp-ux support, but I'm not sure
if this is true for linux)

3. because it is always better to have too much ram/swap then too little

4. because if you do not set up swap, but need it later, it will not be so
easy to create it, if you partition all disk and leave no space left

5. because it is a good *nix habit! :-)

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[gentoo-user] Re: klaptop appears in weird spot!

2006-02-23 Thread Anno v. Hiemburg
Iain Buchanan wrote:

> the kde laptop taskbar applet, klaptop, occasionally gets dislodged!
> atm it's in the top left corner of the screen, but the main panel is

> Should I do anything about this?  Is it worth a bug report?

Why, yes, it's a bug, though probably rather one in klaptop than in Gentoo.
Go to http://bugs.kde.org to report it.

Grüße,
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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64/x86

2006-02-23 Thread Boris Fersing
2006/2/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to install Gentoo on Athlon64-based workstation,
> but I'm a little confused about hardware profiles and their
> compatibility:
>
> If I select now amd64, will I be able later to install and
> use x86 software, if there is no amd64 release (for example
> precompiled game-binaries, or even some sources which are
> only for x86, not amd64)?
>
> Or do I have to use x86 installation profile?

Hi,

just use the amd64 default profile (the mutilib one), then you'll be
able to run 32bits softwares too !

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 23 February 2006 14:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "joaoemanuel1981" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do i not understand why needs swap, if have 1GB of RAM?
>
> 1. because if you have 200GB disk, cutting 1 or 2GB for swap does not
> matter

True.

>
> 2. because someone told me some apps want to allocate swap no matter how
> ram you have (I think it was someone from hp-ux support, but I'm not sure
> if this is true for linux)

This is a myth. *No* application (under linux) can grab swap space directly. 
Applications ask the kernel for memory when they allocate it. The kernel, 
based on algorithms that balance free real ram, buffers and cache, returns 
either real ram as memory to the app or - if it is low on real ram - swap 
space. So what you do when adding swap space is extending your (fast) real 
ram with (slow) memory residing on your harddrive.

>
> 3. because it is always better to have too much ram/swap then too little
Nnnnot always. There are circumstances when you do not want swap at all. 
Consider a box that has certain real time response requirements which cannot 
be met if apps are swapped out (actually parts of their code and/or data 
paged out) to the harddrive. In these cases, you do not want swap but enough 
ram to accommodate your running processes at all times.

This and 2. also mean that it's quite pointless to add swap if your 
workstation has 16GB of ram and isn't used for image processing or other 
extremely memory-hungry tasks.
>
> 4. because if you do not set up swap, but need it later, it will not be so
> easy to create it, if you partition all disk and leave no space left

The times when we couldn't resize partitions under linux without holding our 
breath are over.
 
>
> 5. because it is a good *nix habit! :-)

What does or does not constitute good *nix habits is at least debateable. 

If I needed a box that was fast at all times and (logical AND) money was of no 
concern I'd put real ram in until the bugger stopped using swap space and 
forget about swap. Since I do have to take monetary issues into 
consideration, I rather configure some (cheap and slow) swap and have less 
(expensive, compared to harddrive space, and fast) ram. How much ram and how 
much swap is an economic question.

It all boils down to how and what for you use your box. If you need more 
memory than you have ram, are you willing to invest the money for more ram? 
No? Then you need swap.

There are too damn many myths about swap out there. Like this one: Always 
configure twice as much swap as you have ram. Why? Why would I need more swap 
if I increased my ram? You need at least a little bit of swap for peak memory 
usage. Let's look at real numbers. Say, I am a bit low of ram for today's 
computers. I have 256MB ram. For peak usage, I add 128MB swap. I open so many 
applications/documents that the box starts swapping out 20MB. Sure, without 
swap space, I wouldn't have been able to open the last document. But nothing 
makes me stop there. I can as well run out of swap.

If you have 2GB of ram and 2GB of swap your total available memory is 4GB. If 
you need more you have to add either ram or swap. What you add is your choice 
based on your needs for speed and the money you are willing to spend on 
memory. That's it.

End of rant.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread John Jolet

> 
> There are too damn many myths about swap out there. Like this one: Always
> configure twice as much swap as you have ram. Why? Why would I need more swap
> if I increased my ram? You need at least a little bit of swap for peak memory
> usage. Let's look at real numbers. Say, I am a bit low of ram for today's
> computers. I have 256MB ram. For peak usage, I add 128MB swap. I open so many
> applications/documents that the box starts swapping out 20MB. Sure, without
> swap space, I wouldn't have been able to open the last document. But nothing
> makes me stop there. I can as well run out of swap.
The rule I always used (and do use) is twice ram, up to one gig of ram.
Pretty much after that, I just do a gig of swap, and monitor it for growth.
If my swap goes up AT ALL, I examine the typical workload on the box and
consider adding ram.  Ram may be more expensive than disk, but at less than
$100 or so per gig, it's pretty cheap.  I use swap as a "safety net",
allowing me enough time to react if something goes nuts or leaks.
> 
> If you have 2GB of ram and 2GB of swap your total available memory is 4GB. If
> you need more you have to add either ram or swap. What you add is your choice
> based on your needs for speed and the money you are willing to spend on
> memory. That's it.
> 
> End of rant.
> 
> Uwe


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Re: [gentoo-user] TARPIT iptables target

2006-02-23 Thread Andrew Frink
Daveto get tarpit support add the "extensions" USE flag when you emerge iptablescynyrOn 2/22/06, Dave Jones <
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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread Dave Nebinger

Uwe Thiem wrote:

3. because it is always better to have too much ram/swap then too little
Nnnnot always. There are circumstances when you do not want swap at all. 


This is never true.  Swap is *always* called for, and for a good reason.

Your example of having a real-time responsive app requiring memory 
residence is a determining factor of how much physical memory you'll 
need to keep the app resident.


But the truth of the matter is this will not be your only app running on 
the system.  Throw some big memory hogs into play, i.e. an active X 
session running locally and that remote X session you've started from 
work, and pretty soon you can find yourself eating up that 1gb that you 
thought would be fine.


Except that since you did not have any swap enabled, once you reach the 
1gb limit, processes start failing.  You find yourself unable to log 
into the box because there's not enough memory to spawn a new shell. 
You're forced to hard-boot the system and hope that the HD caches were 
flushed to the disk before you hit the reset button.


Having swap is just another manner of safe-guarding your system.  Once 
you breach the physical limit, there's always swap to fall back on. 
Sure all of your apps will suffer while swapping occurs, but at least 
you stand a chance of cleaning up the situation w/o facing the hard 
reboot option.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Mike Myers

Ow Mun Heng wrote:


On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 23:14 -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
 


Hi everybody!

I'm having problems with a laptop and the suspend2 patched kernel.  It 
seems like whenever I suspend to ram, and then resume, the video doesn't 
come back.
   



suspend2-sources?

what video card? did you try the vbetool hack?
 



I'm using the suspend2-sources 2.6.15-suspend2-r6 kernel, yes.  My video 
card is an intel Mobile Accelerated graphics card, and I'm using the 
vesa driver until I can get the intel driver for it installed.  I tried 
to install vbetool, but it wouldn't compile, so I couldn't use it.


Also,  I'm using the intel 2200 wireless card, with the ipw2200 module, 
and if I put the laptop into hibernate and then power it back on, the 
wireless card doesn't come back up.
   



i have ipw2100. It's modprobed -r by suspend2 config files. IIRC you ma
have to modprob it back on. Not sure.

 

after resuming, lsmod shows it to still be loaded.  rmmod ipw2200 and 
then modprobe ipw2200 doesn't bring it back up.  I have to reboot for it 
to come back.


Is there anything I can do to fix this?  Or somewhere I can go that will 
tell me how to fix those kinds of issues?
   



I would check with the suspend2 list. But a quick search through my own
list archive (under evolution) I found no reference to your problem
 

I'll try that, I just wanted to try the gentoo lists first in case it 
had anything to do with gentoo. :P

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Thursday 23 February 2006 19:25, Uwe Thiem wrote:
>
> End of rant.
>
I think you should read this article
http://rudd-o.com/archives/2006/01/11/why-swap-is-good-even-with-tons-of-ram/

I don't know about you but since I started using an archck kernel, I have 
always seen my system actually using swap. The swap prefetch patch seems to 
be working here and I don't mind at all. In fact it makes my system much more 
responsive.
Here is the current free -m report.
$ free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   495485  9  0 61131
-/+ buffers/cache:293202
Swap:  768241526

Now imagine that if I didn't have any swap space, that 241MB would have either 
been eaten up from my RAM or those files would never have been cached. In 
first scenario, it would reduce the capability of my system to cache the 
important files in RAM b'cos it is already full with not-so-important files, 
while in the latter case the Disk IO on my system will increase whenever I 
needed those not-so-important files. What ever your choice might be, I 
personally choose free RAM for better caching of files + lesser Disk IO, even 
if that means spending 768MB of HDD space.

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-23 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 23 February 2006 11:26, Alexander Kirillov wrote:
> >>I already think Gentoo base system requirements are a bit heavy just
> >> having python in there.  (I'm trying to run gentoo on my WRT54G 1.1;
> >> storage over nfs/nbd)  It would be completely over-the-top to require
> >> Modula 3 support as well.
> >
> > Just tried cvsup on a FreeBSD box (in vmware) and it totally sucked.
> > Took 1hr 20 min to update on a 512KB DSL.
> >
> > Link wasn't even saturated! Might as well be on 56K connection. DL rate
> > max I've seen was 8KB/s
>
> BSD ports system may not be as complex as Gentoo's
> and needs more attention to maintain port dependencies
> but this "abuse of make" IS REAL FAST.

portage is REAL SLOW.
So you should install/use cdb, which makes the whole rsync/update process REAL 
FAST.

> If you sync regularly it's usually within 5 min.

it is, with cdb.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Mike Myers

Richard Fish wrote:


On 2/22/06, Mike Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Hi everybody!

I'm having problems with a laptop and the suspend2 patched kernel.  It
seems like whenever I suspend to ram, and then resume, the video doesn't
come back.
   



More details please.  (video card, which X11 driver, which
console/framebuffer driver, are you suspending from console or X,
etc).
 

I'm suspending from X, using the klaptop application.  I'm using the 
vesa driver for an intel video card.




Never saw this problem...it should work fine.  Is the module reloaded
when the system resumes?  Anything show up in dmesg or the system log?

-Richard

 

dmesg just says something about 'error -2' and ACPI when I try to remove 
and reload the module.  I can try it and give you exactly what it says 
if you need me to.

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[gentoo-user] Re: puzzled over why xrdb process hangs

2006-02-23 Thread James
Zac Slade  volumehost.net> writes:

> > quickly running 'top' I find the culprit:
> > krdb. I can kill it off and the sequence completes and the system is fine.
> >
> > But 'eix xrdb' reveals:
> > x11-apps/xrdb
> >  Available versions:  [M]1.0.1
> >  Installed:   none

> > If it's not installed how can it be running (hung)?
> > I've tried all sorts of things to fix this and nothing
> > works, including revdep-rebuild...
 
> Are you using the monolithic or split ebuilds for kde?

got me on this one. Not Sure? I'd guess both is a bad idea?


> That is, did you emerge kde or emerge kde-meta?

yes, but it has been 'unmerge'd. 

> If you using the monolithic ebuilds, this binary will be provided by a 
> different package.  If you'll locate the actual binary, you can find which 
> package provides it with equery b /path/to/xrdb.  You might be able to 
> recompile that package.

This package is not there:

 /# equery b /path/to/xrdb
[ Searching for file(s) /path/to/xrdb in *... ]


just like:
* x11-apps/xrdb
 Available versions:  [M]1.0.1
 Installed:   none

I can kill off the hung xrdb process, as user james.
I do not have to sudo or be root, so it's definately a kde thing
(outta wack)...


What's the best way to rebuild kde? 


other ideas?


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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread jarry
Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There are too damn many myths about swap out there. Like this one:
> Always configure twice as much swap as you have ram. Why?


Well, it depends on how swap is handled by system. In linux, your
total memory = physical memory + swap (as you wrote)

A couple years ago I got answer from HP, where they said with hp-ux:
total memory = physical memory + (swap - physical memory)
only if swap > physical memory !

and
total memory = physical memory
if swap < physical memory
(in other words, it was completely useless to have swap < phys.memory,
 and optimum was really swap = 2 * physical memory)

They explained to me, that hp-ux 11 (or at least that early version)
allocates part of swap of the same size as physical memory and mirrors
the whole image of ram into swap for performance reasons: when more
memory is needed, it can be immediatelly made free, because it is
already paged to disk. 

So when I had 1GB RAM and 2GB swap, even right after system boot-up
only 1GB of swap were free (in the other half of swap there was already
mirror of physical memory), and I could not start any process which
needed more than 2GB total memory.

It seemed to me to be a complete vaste, and I was really angry, because
it was time when 4 GB disk was a luxury (and e.g. irix did not have
this strange "feature"). But things might have changed since then...


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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread Andrei Slavoiu
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A couple years ago I got answer from HP, where they
> said with hp-ux:
> total memory = physical memory + (swap - physical
> memory)
This of course is equivalent to:
total memory = swap
I'm not sure, but I think Windows NT also uses this.
So practicaly the will be no memory allocation, but
"swap allocation". And the RAM is used just as cache
(for either files or swap).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: puzzled over why xrdb process hangs

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 08:48, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
about '[gentoo-user]  Re: puzzled over why xrdb process hangs':
> Zac Slade  volumehost.net> writes: (Actually, me; I was @ 
his house)
> > If you using the monolithic ebuilds, this binary will be provided by a
> > different package.  If you'll locate the actual binary, you can find
> > which package provides it with equery b /path/to/xrdb.  You might be
> > able to recompile that package.
>
> This package is not there:
>
>  /# equery b /path/to/xrdb

I'm sorry, but this makes me giggle while simultaneously feel a bit sad for 
you.  I was using "/path/to/" as a placeholder for the *actual* path for 
xrdb.  You'll have to use tools like which or find or slocate to find 
exactly what that path is, and then substitute it in.

For example, on my system (monster):
monster ~ # which xrdb
/usr/bin/xrdb
monster ~ # equery b /usr/bin/xrdb
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/xrdb in *... ]
x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6 (/usr/bin/xrdb)

Luckily, xrdb was in my path, otherwise which wouldn't have found it, and I 
would have had to use slocate or find.

My guess is that the same package will provide this binary on your system, 
but you should go ahead and do the which + equery, just to make sure.  
x11-apps/xrdb is probably for the new, version 7, split xorg.

Also, to assume you I don't have x11-apss/xrdb installed:
monster ~ # eix -c xrdb
[N] app-emacs/xrdb-mode (): An Emacs major mode for editing X resource 
database files
[N] x11-apps/xrdb (): X.Org xrdb application

Found 2 matches

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why does wordpress require xterm?

2006-02-23 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/22/06, Lance Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there some tool that I should be using, or some additional emerge
> flag, that would help diagnose a problem like this?  I tried masking the
> packages that were being brought in, to see if that would tell me which
> package had the dependency that was bringing in the extra stuff,

How did you mask the package?  It should have been with
/etc/portage/package.mask...

"emerge -Dptv --emptytree " will always show you the full
dependancy tree for a package.  And if you mask out a package, this
command should also tell you which package is bringing in the
dependancy.  For example, if I comment out the line in my unmask that
allows me to bring in x11-libs/libXpm, and try to emerge wordpress, I
get:

carcharias rjf # USE=xpm emerge -Deptv wordpress

These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order:

Calculating dependencies |
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "x11-libs/libXpm" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- x11-libs/libXpm-3.5.4.2 (masked by: package.mask)
# Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (07 Aug 2005)
# Modularized X, upstream release candidates


For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or
refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
(dependency required by "dev-lang/php-5.1.1" [ebuild])


I get a similar error if I mask out dev-db/mysql in /etc/portage/package.mask

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[gentoo-user] NVRM: RmInitAdapter failed! (0x12:0x2b:1438)

2006-02-23 Thread Jeff
Hey guys. The subject is the lovely error message I'm seeing after
trying to get the nVidia drivers up and running on this card:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX
4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 16
Memory at fd00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
Memory at e800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Expansion ROM at fe00 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2

X simply refuses to start, and this error message is pretty much all I
have to go on.

X runs fine if I change the driver to 'nv' - the open source nVidia driver.

Any ideas what's going on here?

Thanks for any and all help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/23/06, Mike Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm suspending from X, using the klaptop application.  I'm using the
> vesa driver for an intel video card.

The vesa driver is pretty much the driver-of-last-resort.  I would
_not_ expect proper power management support from this.

Try the i810 driver instead, it should have support for intel
integrated graphics.

> dmesg just says something about 'error -2' and ACPI when I try to remove
> and reload the module.  I can try it and give you exactly what it says
> if you need me to.

Yes.  The ACPI messages are probably not important, but if you are
getting an error unloading or reloading the module, then that is a
problem.  My initial guess is probably something about firmware

I would suggest emerging and using the hibernate script
(sys-power/hibernate-script).  It allows a great deal of
customization, including restarting services, reloading of modules,
etc in response to suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk operations.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/23/06, Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is never true.  Swap is *always* called for, and for a good reason.

No, it isn't.  For my single-user laptop with 2G of RAM, I actually
prefer that the OOM kill any runaway process that is gobbling up RAM. 
My laptop disk (even at 7200rpm) is too damn slow for swap to be at
all useful.  The system _will_ be dead until swap is exhausted and the
OOM kicks in anyway.  The only reason I have a swap partition at all
is for suspend2 hibernation.

> Your example of having a real-time responsive app requiring memory
> residence is a determining factor of how much physical memory you'll
> need to keep the app resident.
>
> But the truth of the matter is this will not be your only app running on
> the system.  Throw some big memory hogs into play, i.e. an active X
> session running locally and that remote X session you've started from
> work, and pretty soon you can find yourself eating up that 1gb that you
> thought would be fine.

No one would ever place a real-time responsive app on a desktop system.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread Dave Nebinger

Richard Fish wrote:

On 2/23/06, Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is never true.  Swap is *always* called for, and for a good reason.


No, it isn't.  For my single-user laptop with 2G of RAM, I actually
prefer that the OOM kill any runaway process that is gobbling up RAM. 
My laptop disk (even at 7200rpm) is too damn slow for swap to be at

all useful.  The system _will_ be dead until swap is exhausted and the
OOM kicks in anyway.  The only reason I have a swap partition at all
is for suspend2 hibernation.



But again you have shown that swap is *always* called for.  You've got 
2gb ram, yet you still need swap for hibernation.



Your example of having a real-time responsive app requiring memory
residence is a determining factor of how much physical memory you'll
need to keep the app resident.

But the truth of the matter is this will not be your only app running on
the system.  Throw some big memory hogs into play, i.e. an active X
session running locally and that remote X session you've started from
work, and pretty soon you can find yourself eating up that 1gb that you
thought would be fine.


No one would ever place a real-time responsive app on a desktop system.


So if your argument is that it would only go on a server, are you also 
arguing that it would only go on a dedicated server?  Or is it a 
multi-function server that's also running perhaps a web server, an app 
server, an email server, ftp server, etc.?


The addition of any sort of server which spawns threads in response to 
incoming network connection means that you've got a variable memory 
consumer which could, should incoming load require, a potential chance 
to overwhelm physical memory.


Same situation, just a different scenario.


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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64/x86

2006-02-23 Thread daniel
On Thursday 23 February 2006 07:54, Boris Fersing wrote:
> 2006/2/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm going to install Gentoo on Athlon64-based workstation,
> > but I'm a little confused about hardware profiles and their
> > compatibility:
> >
> > If I select now amd64, will I be able later to install and
> > use x86 software, if there is no amd64 release (for example
> > precompiled game-binaries, or even some sources which are
> > only for x86, not amd64)?
> >
> > Or do I have to use x86 installation profile?
>
> Hi,
>
> just use the amd64 default profile (the mutilib one), then you'll be
> able to run 32bits softwares too !

Not entirely true.  When I first got my amd64 box, I did just that and was 
horribly disappointed.  While most things worked, there were a number of 
"show stoppers" so to speak: Konqueror couldn't play flash movies because 
while Konqueror compiled just fine as 64-bit, flash is only available in 
32bit.  If I wanted to see Flash, I had to use a binary version of Firefox.  
Worse though was the fact that none of the win32codecs were available so I 
couldn't watch any wmv, wma or other binary-only formats.

Sadly, if you want to be able to use stuff typically used for the Windows 
world, you have to conform to that world's handicapps, which means making do 
with 32bits for now.

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[gentoo-user] dchp ebuild needs updated Manifest

2006-02-23 Thread Beau E. Cox
Hi -

Last night's sync/update:

cathy ~ # emerge -uD world -p

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild U ] net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 [3.0.3-r2]
cathy ~ # emerge -uD world
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 to /
!!! Security Violation: A file exists that is not in the manifest.
!!! File: files/dhclient-ntp.patch
   
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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64/x86

2006-02-23 Thread Boris Fersing
2006/2/23, daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 07:54, Boris Fersing wrote:
> > 2006/2/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm going to install Gentoo on Athlon64-based workstation,
> > > but I'm a little confused about hardware profiles and their
> > > compatibility:
> > >
> > > If I select now amd64, will I be able later to install and
> > > use x86 software, if there is no amd64 release (for example
> > > precompiled game-binaries, or even some sources which are
> > > only for x86, not amd64)?
> > >
> > > Or do I have to use x86 installation profile?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > just use the amd64 default profile (the mutilib one), then you'll be
> > able to run 32bits softwares too !
>
> Not entirely true.  When I first got my amd64 box, I did just that and was
> horribly disappointed.  While most things worked, there were a number of
> "show stoppers" so to speak: Konqueror couldn't play flash movies because
> while Konqueror compiled just fine as 64-bit, flash is only available in
> 32bit.  If I wanted to see Flash, I had to use a binary version of Firefox.
> Worse though was the fact that none of the win32codecs were available so I
> couldn't watch any wmv, wma or other binary-only formats.
>
> Sadly, if you want to be able to use stuff typically used for the Windows
> world, you have to conform to that world's handicapps, which means making do
> with 32bits for now.

What jarry wants is to run precompiled 32bits applications, which
should work with the multilib profile.

But I agree iwth some points, you can't use a 32bits plugin with a
64bits application, that's why I've installed mozilla-firefox-bin,
mplayer-bin ...

regards,

Boris.
>
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> the weapons of mass destruction's existence, and zero certainty about where
> they are.
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Re: [gentoo-user] dchp ebuild needs updated Manifest

2006-02-23 Thread Beau E. Cox
On Thursday 23 February 2006 07:27, Beau E. Cox wrote:
> Hi -
>
> Last night's sync/update:
>
> cathy ~ # emerge -uD world -p
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild U ] net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 [3.0.3-r2]
> cathy ~ # emerge -uD world
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>
> >>> emerge (1 of 1) net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 to /
>
> !!! Security Violation: A file exists that is not in the manifest.
> !!! File: files/dhclient-ntp.patch
>
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I fixed the Manifest, and it looks as though the ebuild
needs more work:

cathy # emerge -uD world
Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 to /
>>> md5 files   ;-) dhcp-3.0.4_beta2-r1.ebuild
>>> md5 files   ;-) dhcp-3.0.3-r3.ebuild
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp.conf
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp.init
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/digest-dhcp-3.0.3-r3
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0.2-gmake.patch
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/digest-dhcp-3.0.4_beta2-r1
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0.3-libdst.patch
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0-fix-perms.patch
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcrelay.conf
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcrelay.init
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhclient-ntp.patch
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0.3-tr.patch
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0.3-no_isc_blurb.patch
>>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0-paranoia.patch
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) dhcp-3.0.3.tar.gz
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking dhcp-3.0.3.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/dhcp-3.0.3-r3/work
 * Applying dhcp-3.0-paranoia.patch ... 

[ ok ]
 * Applying dhcp-3.0-fix-perms.patch ...

[ ok ]

 * Cannot find $EPATCH_SOURCE!  Value for $EPATCH_SOURCE is:
 *
 *   /usr/portage/net-misc/dhcp/files/dhcp-3.0.3-dhclient-ntp.patch
 *   ( dhcp-3.0.3-dhclient-ntp.patch )


!!! ERROR: net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 failed.
!!! Function epatch, Line 207, Exitcode 0
!!! Cannot find $EPATCH_SOURCE!
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Mike Myers

Richard Fish wrote:


On 2/23/06, Mike Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


I'm suspending from X, using the klaptop application.  I'm using the
vesa driver for an intel video card.
   



The vesa driver is pretty much the driver-of-last-resort.  I would
_not_ expect proper power management support from this.

Try the i810 driver instead, it should have support for intel
integrated graphics.

 

I'm not all suprised that you'd say that, really.  I tried the i810 
driver and it wouldn't work.  That's why I'm using the vesa driver.  I 
tried downloading the graphics driver for the video card from intel's 
website, there was an rpm and a tarball.  The rpm wouldn't install and 
the tarball wouldn't compile.  I using the drivers in the kernel but 
those didn't work either.  X just wouldn't start with it.  X reports the 
video card to be an Intel 915GM/910ML/915MS Graphics Controllor.  From 
what I've read, the i810 driver is supposed to work with that card, but 
apparently it doesn't.  Maybe you have some suggestions?



dmesg just says something about 'error -2' and ACPI when I try to remove
and reload the module.  I can try it and give you exactly what it says
if you need me to.
   



Yes.  The ACPI messages are probably not important, but if you are
getting an error unloading or reloading the module, then that is a
problem.  My initial guess is probably something about firmware

I would suggest emerging and using the hibernate script
(sys-power/hibernate-script).  It allows a great deal of
customization, including restarting services, reloading of modules,
etc in response to suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk operations.

-Richard

 

I have the hibernate script installed already, but I haven't really 
messed with that.  I'll check it out and see if I can get something to 
work.  I've just been mostly concerned about the suspend to ram function 
than the hibernate function.


Thanks for the help!

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Re: [gentoo-user] [RESOLVED] dchp ebuild needs updated Manifest

2006-02-23 Thread Beau E. Cox
On Thursday 23 February 2006 07:34, Beau E. Cox wrote:
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 07:27, Beau E. Cox wrote:
> > Hi -
> >
> > Last night's sync/update:
> >
> > cathy ~ # emerge -uD world -p
> >
> > These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >
> > Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> > [ebuild U ] net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 [3.0.3-r2]
> > cathy ~ # emerge -uD world
> > Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> >
> > >>> emerge (1 of 1) net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 to /
> >
> > !!! Security Violation: A file exists that is not in the manifest.
> > !!! File: files/dhclient-ntp.patch
> >
> > --
> > Aloha => Beau;
>
> I fixed the Manifest, and it looks as though the ebuild
> needs more work:
>
> cathy # emerge -uD world
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>
> >>> emerge (1 of 1) net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 to /
> >>> md5 files   ;-) dhcp-3.0.4_beta2-r1.ebuild
> >>> md5 files   ;-) dhcp-3.0.3-r3.ebuild
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp.conf
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp.init
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/digest-dhcp-3.0.3-r3
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0.2-gmake.patch
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/digest-dhcp-3.0.4_beta2-r1
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0.3-libdst.patch
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0-fix-perms.patch
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcrelay.conf
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcrelay.init
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhclient-ntp.patch
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0.3-tr.patch
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0.3-no_isc_blurb.patch
> >>> md5 files   ;-) files/dhcp-3.0-paranoia.patch
> >>> md5 src_uri ;-) dhcp-3.0.3.tar.gz
> >>> Unpacking source...
> >>> Unpacking dhcp-3.0.3.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/dhcp-3.0.3-r3/work
>
>  * Applying dhcp-3.0-paranoia.patch ...
> [ ok ]
>  * Applying dhcp-3.0-fix-perms.patch ...
> [ ok ]
>
>  * Cannot find $EPATCH_SOURCE!  Value for $EPATCH_SOURCE is:
>  *
>  *   /usr/portage/net-misc/dhcp/files/dhcp-3.0.3-dhclient-ntp.patch
>  *   ( dhcp-3.0.3-dhclient-ntp.patch )
>
>
> !!! ERROR: net-misc/dhcp-3.0.3-r3 failed.
> !!! Function epatch, Line 207, Exitcode 0
> !!! Cannot find $EPATCH_SOURCE!
> !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
> message.
>
> --
> Aloha => Beau;

I re-synced and everthing was fixed in -r4. Thanks.

Memo to self: re-sync before opening mouth :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread Alexander Skwar
Dave Nebinger wrote:

>  You've got 
> 2gb ram, yet you still need swap for hibernation.

No, he doesn't. suspend2 could also write the memory to a
file when hibernating.

That said, I'd find it rather useless to write to a plain
normal file, as you need to keep the space available anyway.
And with swap, you might at least make somewhat use of that
"wasted" space.

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[gentoo-user] gst-plugins

2006-02-23 Thread Graham Murray
[rant mode] Many of the gstreamer plugins, but not all of them, have
been updated (in ~x86) to 0.8.12. That some of them are still at
0.8.11 is causing an upgrade/download emerge loop. As all of these
plugins are built from the same source but with different configure
options, would it not be possible to commit all of them to the tree at
the same time?  Only committing some of them causes the ones remaining
at the old version to make portage downgrade the 'main' gst-plugins
ebuild and then upgrade it again next time emerge is run.
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[gentoo-user] Missing Keyword

2006-02-23 Thread Nick Smith
ive been wondering this for a while.  i know how to deal with masked
packages, beit keyword masked or hardmasked, but ive googled and
googled, and cant seem to find or figure out how to deal with masked
packages that are missing keywords.  there is a nice document in the
wiki that explains masked packages but it makes no mention to ones
that are missing a keyword.
what are you suppose to do to these files to get them unmasked? and it
it like a hard mask where they are known not to work?

TIA

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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64/x86

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 11:24, daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] amd64/x86':
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 07:54, Boris Fersing wrote:
> > 2006/2/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > I'm going to install Gentoo on Athlon64-based workstation,
> > > but I'm a little confused about hardware profiles and their
> > > compatibility:
> >
> > just use the amd64 default profile (the mutilib one), then you'll be
> > able to run 32bits softwares too !

E.g. Doom3, a 32-bit binary, works fine on my ~amd64 system.

> Not entirely true.  When I first got my amd64 box, I did just that and
> was horribly disappointed.  While most things worked, there were a
> number of "show stoppers" so to speak: Konqueror couldn't play flash
> movies because while Konqueror compiled just fine as 64-bit, flash is
> only available in 32bit.  If I wanted to see Flash, I had to use a
> binary version of Firefox. Worse though was the fact that none of the
> win32codecs were available so I couldn't watch any wmv, wma or other
> binary-only formats.

Of course, none of these cases is (simply) running a 32-bit binary.  All 
these cases cover having a 64-bit binary load a 32-bit library.  While I 
believe this is technically possible with very disciplined developers and 
some kernel help, it's not supported (or even allowed) currently.  Loading 
a 32-bit library (using dlopen etc.) will fail if you are currently 
running in 64-bit mode.

The solution at the user end is to run 32-bit versions of the software that 
needs to load 32-bit libraries, unfortunately gentoo doesn't make this as 
easy as I'd like [1], but does provide a few methods.  There's 
firefox-bin, which is the offically branded 32-bit version of firefox, 
capable of loading your 32-bit flash player, as well as some flash players 
with source available (and at differing levels of usability).  Mplayer 
also has a relatively new bindist USE flag, which I believe installs the 
32-bit binary for use with w32codecs.

Beyond this, you can also setup a chroot (there's a guide in the gentoo 
wiki), and I believe the gentoo forums has a nsplugin32 ebuild which is 
supposed to allow 64-bit konq to load 32-bit plugins.  You could, of 
course run an entirely 32-bit userland, and gcc will still optimize your 
processor in 32-bit mode (but, some processor features just are not 
available in 32-bit mode).

The solution at the developer end is, when running on a system that 
supports both multiple modes of execution, have separate processes running 
(one in each mode) that communicate via IPC (pipes, shared memory, etc.) 
and are each responsible for loading libraries with a matching mode.  This 
hasn't been traditionally done because the number of installations that 
support multiple execution modes running side-by-side is low.

> Sadly, if you want to be able to use stuff typically used for the
> Windows world, you have to conform to that world's handicapps, which
> means making do with 32bits for now.

I am reminded of an RMS quote:
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master--and if you use the program, he 
is your master."
-- Richard Stallman, in an interview for Federico Binacuzzi
http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html

For me, I just don't use flash that isn't supported by my 64-bit flash 
player.  I just don't watch wmv movies (h264 data in the maktroska wrapper 
is better anyway).  I just don't use the scanning feature of my 
multi-function printer (supported in sane using a proprietary 32-bit 
library).  It's a cost that I'm willing to bear.

It's also getting me closer to living in the free world. ;)

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[1] I'd like be be able to 'ARCH="x86" emerge firefox' (or similar) and get 
a 32-bit version (compiled with my CFLAGS etc.) installed in parallel with 
my 64-bit version, without undue hardship.
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[gentoo-user] OT - 2 Questions

2006-02-23 Thread Michael Sullivan
I upgraded dovecot the other day to 1.0.beta3 and I was altering the
configuration file trying to get it to work when I discovered something
disturbing:  our passwords were being trasmitted unencrypted across the
Internet!  At least now I know it.  You can gripe at me all you want,
but I've learned my lesson.  Now to fix it.  I tried setting the default
authentication method to "digest-md5" and restarting dovecot, but it
gave me an error that no authentication database existed for checking
with digest-md5.  How do I generate one?

My second question was about a PaperPort 6100 parallel port scanner that
I recently inherited.  Can anyone point me to a Gentoo-specific or
otherwise easy-to-understand howto for getting it working?  I tried
googling it, but all the results were for USB scanners...
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Re: [gentoo-user] How many GB for / partition?

2006-02-23 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 23 February 2006 18:12, Dave Nebinger wrote:
> Richard Fish wrote:
> > On 2/23/06, Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> This is never true.  Swap is *always* called for, and for a good reason.
> >
> > No, it isn't.  For my single-user laptop with 2G of RAM, I actually
> > prefer that the OOM kill any runaway process that is gobbling up RAM.
> > My laptop disk (even at 7200rpm) is too damn slow for swap to be at
> > all useful.  The system _will_ be dead until swap is exhausted and the
> > OOM kicks in anyway.  The only reason I have a swap partition at all
> > is for suspend2 hibernation.
>
> But again you have shown that swap is *always* called for.  You've got
> 2gb ram, yet you still need swap for hibernation.

I don't use hibernation. ;-)

>
> >> Your example of having a real-time responsive app requiring memory
> >> residence is a determining factor of how much physical memory you'll
> >> need to keep the app resident.
> >>
> >> But the truth of the matter is this will not be your only app running on
> >> the system.  Throw some big memory hogs into play, i.e. an active X
> >> session running locally and that remote X session you've started from
> >> work, and pretty soon you can find yourself eating up that 1gb that you
> >> thought would be fine.
> >
> > No one would ever place a real-time responsive app on a desktop system.
>
> So if your argument is that it would only go on a server, are you also
> arguing that it would only go on a dedicated server?  Or is it a
> multi-function server that's also running perhaps a web server, an app
> server, an email server, ftp server, etc.?

You wouldn't run such an app on a server that offers services like FTP or 
such.

I was actually involved in a project once that did that kind of stuff on a 
desktop. It was a dedicated desktop, though. ;-)

Your main argument is that one needs swap as a safety net if one runs out of 
ram. So you have, say 1 GB of ram and 1 GB of swap. What if you run out of 
swap? Or: If that 1GB of swap on top of your 1GB of ram is enough for you to 
never run out of swap, what's wrong with replaces it with another 1GB of ram 
if you can afford it? Where is the bloody difference, except that you get a 
faster box?

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64/x86

2006-02-23 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 23 February 2006 18:24, daniel wrote:
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 07:54, Boris Fersing wrote:
> > 2006/2/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm going to install Gentoo on Athlon64-based workstation,
> > > but I'm a little confused about hardware profiles and their
> > > compatibility:
> > >
> > > If I select now amd64, will I be able later to install and
> > > use x86 software, if there is no amd64 release (for example
> > > precompiled game-binaries, or even some sources which are
> > > only for x86, not amd64)?
> > >
> > > Or do I have to use x86 installation profile?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > just use the amd64 default profile (the mutilib one), then you'll be
> > able to run 32bits softwares too !
>
> Not entirely true.  When I first got my amd64 box, I did just that and was
> horribly disappointed.  While most things worked, there were a number of
> "show stoppers" so to speak: Konqueror couldn't play flash movies because
> while Konqueror compiled just fine as 64-bit, flash is only available in
> 32bit.  If I wanted to see Flash, I had to use a binary version of Firefox.
or opera.
So all you have to do is to copy the url and open it in one of the 32bit 
browser, which are working fine.
So your statement is not completly correct. Konqueror does not use 32bit 
plugins, that is true.

> Worse though was the fact that none of the win32codecs were available so I
> couldn't watch any wmv, wma or other binary-only formats.

yes you can. Install mplayer-bin.
I prefer xine, but for the occasional wmv, mplayer-bin is enough.


>
> Sadly, if you want to be able to use stuff typically used for the Windows
> world, you have to conform to that world's handicapps, which means making
> do with 32bits for now.

no, you don't have to. You just have to install two (!!) 32 bit apps. Opera 
for flash, mplayer-bin for win32codecs.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon

2006-02-23 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Bo Andresen wrote:
> Well, I did try both x86 (20050502) and ~x86 (20051223).
> [...] 
> Anyway neither gave me working hardware acceleration. :(

Still the same error (drmOpenDevice: Open failed)?

Earlier you wrote:
> ~# cat /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
> ...
> intel-agp
> ...
> drm

Add radeon in there, so that the module is loaded before X starts.
When it still fails, post the agp/drm/radeon related messages from 
dmesg.

When you're using udev, you could also try upgrading to the latest 
~x86 version.  (Myself I simply use static device nodes.)

> Option  "AGPFastWrite" "True"
> Option  "EnablePageFlip" "True"

Do switch these off.  It probably won't help, but when things don't 
work you have to try everything.  Also try setting AGPMode to 1 or 
2.  And try compiling agpgart into the kernel.

> [ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6  USE="bitmap-fonts
> ipv6 nls opengl pam sse truetype-fonts type1-fonts xprint xv dfx
> -3dnow -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server
> -insecure-drivers -minimal -mmx -nocxx -sdk -static" 0 kB

Here I have 3dnow and mmx active in the USE flags.

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread CR Little








I’m having a problem with LVM. 

 

I setup a volume group it had 5.91G in Free PE/Size now states 0/0

  --- Volume group ---

  VG
Name  
vg

  System ID

 
Format   
lvm2

  Metadata Areas    3

  Metadata Sequence No  9

  VG
Access
read/write

  VG
Status
resizable

  MAX LV   
0

  Cur LV   
5

  Open LV  
5

  Max
PV   
0

  Cur
PV   
3

  Act
PV   
3

  VG
Size  
55.91 GB

  PE
Size  
4.00 MB

  Total
PE 
14313

  Alloc PE /
Size   14313 / 55.91 GB

  Free  PE / Size   0 / 0

  VG
UUID  
6615f4-SY2U-Ur67-mW3K-6BcT-7eJD-gH9Cqi

 

I have a logical volume inside that I tried to extend

  --- Logical volume ---

  LV
Name   
/dev/vg/home

  VG
Name   
vg

  LV
UUID   
vx9591-nXtD-0Yj6-F0ah-TjcH-5jEq-BGFIze

  LV Write Access   
read/write

  LV
Status 
available

  # open
1

  LV
Size   
10.91 GB

  Current
LE 2793

 
Segments  
3

 
Allocation
inherit

  Read ahead sectors 0

  Block
device   253:1

 

It now states 10.91 GB for LV Size. This lv is mounted to /home when I
ran lvextend –L+5.91G /dev/vg/home it extended the lv but when you run
df-h it doesn’t show an increased size.

 

/dev/mapper/vg-home   5.0G  1.6G  3.2G  33%
/home

 

Apparently I missed a step and can’t find any information on how
to fix this. Doesn’t it need to know how to format and add the LV extention?

Help would be great.

 

Thanks.





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Re: [gentoo-user] Missing Keyword

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 12:07, "Nick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about '[gentoo-user] Missing Keyword':
> ive been wondering this for a while.  i know how to deal with masked
> packages, beit keyword masked or hardmasked, but ive googled and
> googled, and cant seem to find or figure out how to deal with masked
> packages that are missing keywords.  there is a nice document in the
> wiki that explains masked packages but it makes no mention to ones
> that are missing a keyword.
> what are you suppose to do to these files to get them unmasked? and it
> it like a hard mask where they are known not to work?

Use /etc/portage/package.keywords (with an actual keyword, instead of the 
default ~ARCH) or your local overlay.

However, a missing keyword (like neither amd64 nor ~amd64) indicates that 
the ebuild has not been tested on that architecture.  If the ebuild DOES 
work, report it on b.g.o.  (Actually, even if it doesn't, you should 
probably report it, because then the -ARCH keyword can be added which 
means "tested and does not work".)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Mike Myers

Just an update;

I unmasked and emerged vbetool-0.3 and it installed and emerged just 
fine.  I configured the /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf script to use it 
and now it works, but only if I use the hibernate command.  If I use 
kde's klaptop monitor, it doesn't seem to use the hibernate script, 
meaning no video after suspend, and no network cards after hibernate.  
Is there anything I can do to get it to read that script?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Missing Keyword

2006-02-23 Thread Nick Smith
>
> Use /etc/portage/package.keywords (with an actual keyword, instead of the
> default ~ARCH) or your local overlay.
>
what is the actual keyword if it doesnt have one? just add it to my
package.keywords file and add the arch to it? i dont see how that
would work.

> However, a missing keyword (like neither amd64 nor ~amd64) indicates that
> the ebuild has not been tested on that architecture.  If the ebuild DOES
> work, report it on b.g.o.  (Actually, even if it doesn't, you should
> probably report it, because then the -ARCH keyword can be added which
> means "tested and does not work".)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - 2 Questions

2006-02-23 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Thursday 23 February 2006 14:36, a tiny voice compelled Michael Sullivan to 
write:

> PaperPort 6100
from:
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html

PaperPort 6100  Parport unsupported Most probably not supported. 
More 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 14:22, "CR Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about '[gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question':
> I'm having a problem with LVM.
>
> I setup a volume group it had 5.91G in Free PE/Size now states 0/0
> I have a logical volume inside that I tried to extend
> It now states 10.91 GB for LV Size. This lv is mounted to /home when I
> ran lvextend -L+5.91G /dev/vg/home it extended the lv but when you run
> df-h it doesn't show an increased size.
>
> /dev/mapper/vg-home   5.0G  1.6G  3.2G  33% /home
>
> Apparently I missed a step and can't find any information on how to fix
> this. Doesn't it need to know how to format and add the LV extention?

That's an easy one.  But an easy thing to miss, especially if you are new.

df reports the free space on the /filesystem/
lvextend changes the size of the /block device/

Now that your block device is bigger, you need to extend the filesystem to 
use that new space.

What filesystem are you using?

Also, in the future, I believe EVMS can do this all with one command and 
there is a nice ncurses interface.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread CR Little
I'm using ext3

-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:41 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

On Thursday 23 February 2006 14:22, "CR Little"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about '[gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question':
> I'm having a problem with LVM.
>
> I setup a volume group it had 5.91G in Free PE/Size now states 0/0
> I have a logical volume inside that I tried to extend
> It now states 10.91 GB for LV Size. This lv is mounted to /home when I
> ran lvextend -L+5.91G /dev/vg/home it extended the lv but when you run
> df-h it doesn't show an increased size.
>
> /dev/mapper/vg-home   5.0G  1.6G  3.2G  33% /home
>
> Apparently I missed a step and can't find any information on how to
fix
> this. Doesn't it need to know how to format and add the LV extention?

That's an easy one.  But an easy thing to miss, especially if you are
new.

df reports the free space on the /filesystem/
lvextend changes the size of the /block device/

Now that your block device is bigger, you need to extend the filesystem
to 
use that new space.

What filesystem are you using?

Also, in the future, I believe EVMS can do this all with one command and

there is a nice ncurses interface.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread Alexander Skwar
CR Little wrote:

> It now states 10.91 GB for LV Size. This lv is mounted to /home when I
> ran lvextend –L+5.91G /dev/vg/home it extended the lv but when you run
> df-h it doesn’t show an increased size.

Of course not - why should it? Increasing the size of an
LV doesn't change the size of the filesystem stored on
the LV in any way.

So, you'll need to run something like "resize_reiserfs /dev/vg/home"
now.

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[gentoo-user] emerge timezone-data fails?

2006-02-23 Thread Ernie Schroder
>>> Install timezone-data-2006b 
into /var/tmp/portage/timezone-data-2006b/image/ category sys-libs
./zic  -y ./yearistype 
-d /var/tmp/portage/timezone-data-2006b/image//usr/share/zoneinfo 
-L /dev/null africa antarctica asia australasia europe northamerica 
southamerica pacificnew etcetera factory backward systemv solar87 solar88 
solar89
./zic: wild compilation-time specification of zic_t
make: *** [posix_only] Error 1

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/timezone-data-2006b failed.
!!! Function src_install, Line 28, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread Qv6
On Thursday 23 February 2006 02:22 pm, CR Little wrote:
> I'm having a problem with LVM.
>
> I setup a volume group it had 5.91G in Free PE/Size now states 0/0
>
>   --- Volume group ---
>
>   VG Name   vg
>
>
>   VG Size   55.91 GB
>
>   PE Size   4.00 MB
>
>   Total PE  14313
>
>   Alloc PE / Size   14313 / 55.91 GB
>
>   Free  PE / Size   0 / 0
>
>
>
>
> I have a logical volume inside that I tried to extend
>
>   --- Logical volume ---
>
>   LV Name/dev/vg/home
>
>   VG Namevg
>
>   LV UUIDvx9591-nXtD-0Yj6-F0ah-TjcH-5jEq-BGFIze
>
>   LV Write Accessread/write
>
>   LV Status  available
>
>   # open 1
>
>   LV Size10.91 GB
>
>   Current LE 2793
>
>   Segments   3
>
>   Allocation inherit
>
>   Read ahead sectors 0
>
>   Block device   253:1
>
>
>
> It now states 10.91 GB for LV Size. This lv is mounted to /home when
> I ran lvextend -L+5.91G /dev/vg/home it extended the lv but when you
> run df-h it doesn't show an increased size.
>
>
>
> /dev/mapper/vg-home   5.0G  1.6G  3.2G  33% /home
>
>
>
> Apparently I missed a step and can't find any information on how to
> fix this. Doesn't it need to know how to format and add the LV
> extention?

Assuming you are using a reiserfs filesystem, resizing it is a 2-step 
process. The first step is what you have accomplished.  The second step 
is:

resize_reiserfs -f /dev/vg/home

However, given the output of your "vgdisplay" with particular reference 
to the lines below, I doubt that you can resize any logical volumes in 
your volume group:

>   VG Size   55.91 GB
>
>   Total PE  14313
>
>   Alloc PE / Size   14313 / 55.91 GB
>
>   Free  PE / Size   0 / 0


 
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[gentoo-user] Firefox PDF integration

2006-02-23 Thread Grant
How do you get firefox to open a PDF file instead of trying to
download it?  The only plugins listed in about:plugins are
s-shockwave-flash and futuresplash.  I do have acroread and gpdf
installed.

Incidentally, which PDF viewer do you like best out of those in portage?

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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 23 February 2006 00:42, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > livecd gentoo # chroot /mnt/gentoo bin/bash
> > chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error
>
> Your 32-but kernel can't run the 64-bit bash.  You'll have to use a 64-bit
> kernel (or as 32-bit stage3, and then gradually recompile)

Will a 64 bit kernel be able to run a 32 bit bash? In order to get a 64 bit 
kernel a have to set CFLAGS=-march=k8 and set the processor type to K8 in the 
kernel configuration, right?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Missing Keyword

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 14:38, "Nick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Missing Keyword':
> > Use /etc/portage/package.keywords (with an actual keyword, instead of
> > the default ~ARCH) or your local overlay.
>
> what is the actual keyword if it doesnt have one? just add it to my
> package.keywords file and add the arch to it? i dont see how that
> would work.

Sorry, my explanation was a bit terse.

Masked due to "missing keyword" means that none of the keywords in 
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS match with any of the keywords in the ebuilds KEYWORDS.

So, an ebuild that has KEYWORDS="x86 ~hppa ~sparc" will match any x86 
profile but only testing hppa or sparc machines.  Attempt to install it on 
an amd64 machine results in a "missing keyword".  You would have to view 
the individual ebuild to determine what KEYWORDS it has.

/etc/portage/package.keywords is a way to add to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS on a 
per-package basis.  /Most of the time/, it is used to install testing 
versions; if you don't supply a keyword after the package atom portage 
assumes you meant ~${ARCH}.  However, it can be used to accept other 
keywords, you just have to put them there.  amd64 users will probably find 
this most useful since it is more likely that something that works on x86 
also works on amd64 than it is that something that works on hppa works on 
sparc -- that is there are keywords other than ~${ARCH} that may be of 
real use.

For the crazier amd64 users out there, yes this does mean you could have 
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64 x86" or even "~amd64 x86 ~x86" in your make.conf, 
but I don't recommend it.  (The transition from 32-bit to 64-bit is not 
easy for all programs.)

Also, I seem to remember that package.keywords didn't always default to 
~${ARCH}.  Am I mis-remembering that?  Do any developers here know for 
sure?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 14:58, "CR Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question':
> I'm using ext3

A: Because it reverses the logical progression of the conversation.
Q: Why shouldn't I top post?

Aaaanyway, in your case, you've got two options:
1) Search around like crazy for a ext2/3 online resizer -- I'm pretty sure 
there's one available, but I don't have it on my system -- and use it.
2) unmount the filesystem, resize2fs /dev/vg/home, and mount the 
filesystem.


Downtime sucks, in the future choose a real filesystem, like reiserfs.


;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 15:31, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec 
format error':
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 00:42, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > livecd gentoo # chroot /mnt/gentoo bin/bash
> > > chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error
> >
> > Your 32-but kernel can't run the 64-bit bash.  You'll have to use a
> > 64-bit kernel (or as 32-bit stage3, and then gradually recompile)
>
> Will a 64 bit kernel be able to run a 32 bit bash?

A 64-bit kernel will run 32-bit binaries fine... Um, there may be a needed 
kernel option though... CONFIG_IA32_EMUL? Anyone?

> In order to get a 64 
> bit kernel a have to set CFLAGS=-march=k8

Your CFLAGS in make.conf don't affect your kernel, normally.  I don't use 
genkernel maybe it does some crazy magic like that.

> and set the processor type to 
> K8 in the kernel configuration, right?

Just setting the proper processor type should build your kernel as 64-bit.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox PDF integration

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 15:27, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] Firefox PDF integration':
> Incidentally, which PDF viewer do you like best out of those in portage?

kpdf :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - 2 Questions

2006-02-23 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:41 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 14:36, a tiny voice compelled Michael Sullivan 
> to 
> write:
> 
> > PaperPort 6100
> from:
> http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html
> 
> PaperPort 6100Parport unsupported Most probably not 
> supported. More 
> details would be appreciated.
> 
> -- 
> Regards, Ernie

What more details do you need, and how would I go about getting them for
you?  This is my first scanner, and I know barely anything about
hardware to begin with...

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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread CR Little
The unmount/ resize2fs /dev/vg/home worked thanks!/
-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:36 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

On Thursday 23 February 2006 14:58, "CR Little"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question':
> I'm using ext3

A: Because it reverses the logical progression of the conversation.
Q: Why shouldn't I top post?

Aaaanyway, in your case, you've got two options:
1) Search around like crazy for a ext2/3 online resizer -- I'm pretty
sure 
there's one available, but I don't have it on my system -- and use it.
2) unmount the filesystem, resize2fs /dev/vg/home, and mount the 
filesystem.


Downtime sucks, in the future choose a real filesystem, like reiserfs.


;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon

2006-02-23 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 23 February 2006 21:19, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > Well, I did try both x86 (20050502) and ~x86 (20051223).
> > [...]
> > Anyway neither gave me working hardware acceleration. :(
>
> Still the same error (drmOpenDevice: Open failed)?

Yes. No change.

> Earlier you wrote:
> > ~# cat /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
> > ...
> > intel-agp
> > ...
> > drm
>
> Add radeon in there, so that the module is loaded before X starts.
> When it still fails, post the agp/drm/radeon related messages from
> dmesg.

I don't have a kernel module called radeon. I guess that's the problem..

~# modprobe -l | grep 'agp\|drm\|rad'
/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/kernel/drivers/video/aty/radeonfb.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/kernel/drivers/char/agp/intel-agp.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.15-gentoo-r1-dri/x11-drm/drm.ko

> When you're using udev, you could also try upgrading to the latest
> ~x86 version.  (Myself I simply use static device nodes.)

~# eix -e udev
* sys-fs/udev
 Available versions:  068-r1 ~069 070-r1 ~071 ~072 073 ~077 ~077-r1 
~077-r2 ~077-r3 ~077-r4 ~077-r5 ~078 079 079-r1 ~081 ~081-r1 ~084
 Installed:   079-r1

You are suggesting I move to version udev-084?

> > Option  "AGPFastWrite" "True"
> > Option  "EnablePageFlip" "True"
>
> Do switch these off.  It probably won't help, but when things don't
> work you have to try everything.  Also try setting AGPMode to 1 or
> 2.  And try compiling agpgart into the kernel.

I'll write back when I have tried these suggestions. 

> > [ebuild   R   ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6  USE="bitmap-fonts
> > ipv6 nls opengl pam sse truetype-fonts type1-fonts xprint xv dfx
> > -3dnow -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server
> > -insecure-drivers -minimal -mmx -nocxx -sdk -static" 0 kB
>
> Here I have 3dnow and mmx active in the USE flags.

Well, this is a laptop with a Pentium M processor so I probably shouldn't turn 
3dnow on.

> Benno

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Re: [gentoo-user] TARPIT iptables target

2006-02-23 Thread Dave Jones
Hi Andrew,

Thank you for the tip about TARPIT, the problem is now solved.

To complete the fix I downloaded patch-o-matic-ng and the iptables
source from netfilter.org:

cd /usr/src
svn co https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/patch-o-matic-ng
svn co https://svn.netfilter.org/netfilter/trunk/iptables

The documentation on using cvs on netfilter.org is outdated, they've
converted to subversion and cvs is no longer available there.

cd /usr/src/patch-o-matic-ng
./runme extra

Allowed me to select the new iptables targets I wanted.

cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig && make && make modules_install && make install

I added the "extensions" USE flag to my /etc/make.conf, then reran the
iptables emerge.

It's all working fine now.

Thanks to both you and Bryce for the help you gave!

Cheers, Dave

Andrew Frink wrote on 02/23/06 15:23:
> Dave
> to get tarpit support add the "extensions" USE flag when you emerge iptables
> cynyr

> I was reading about the TARPIT target in the man iptables documentation,
> and thought I'd like to give it a try.  Unfortunately though, it seems
> not to be supported in the 2.6.15-1 Gentoo kernel.

> Has anyone used the TARPIT target, or know of a way to get it into the
> current kernel?  Any experience with this target or 'gotchas' about it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox PDF integration

2006-02-23 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:27:18 -0800 Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do you get firefox to open a PDF file instead of trying to
> download it?  The only plugins listed in about:plugins are
> s-shockwave-flash and futuresplash.  I do have acroread and gpdf
> installed.

Turn on USE-Flag "nsplugin" for app-text/acroread if you like Adobe
Reader. I use xpdf, because acroread takes ages to load. For this to
work I added xpdf as handler for the "application/pdf" MIME-type to the
list of helper applications. It should be somewhere in the preferences.

> Incidentally, which PDF viewer do you like best out of those in
> portage?

xpdf. I start acroread only when xpdf displays the file incorrectly.


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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 23 February 2006 22:40, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 15:31, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec
>
> format error':
> > On Thursday 23 February 2006 00:42, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > > livecd gentoo # chroot /mnt/gentoo bin/bash
> > > > chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error
[SNIP]
> > Will a 64 bit kernel be able to run a 32 bit bash?
>
> A 64-bit kernel will run 32-bit binaries fine... Um, there may be a needed
> kernel option though... CONFIG_IA32_EMUL? Anyone?

I cannot seem to find any such kernel config option.

> > In order to get a 64
> > bit kernel a have to set CFLAGS=-march=k8
>
> Your CFLAGS in make.conf don't affect your kernel, normally.

Didn't really think so either. It's just that I still get  the Exec format 
error when I try to chroot. Is there a way to very that I really am running a 
64 kernel?

> I don't use 
> genkernel maybe it does some crazy magic like that.

I don't either.

> > and set the processor type to
> > K8 in the kernel configuration, right?
>
> Just setting the proper processor type should build your kernel as 64-bit.

Did do that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] traffic shaping

2006-02-23 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:16:35 +0200
Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It happens as soon as I enter any one of the following lines:
> 
> tc filter add dev eth2 parent 1: prio 2 handle 1 fw flowid 1:20
> [...]
> I then get the error message:
> RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
> We have an error talking to the kernel
> 
> Prior experience suggests that a module is missing or not loaded. The 
> question 
> is: Which one? Or am I completely wrong in my assumption?

Did you compile "QoS and/or fair queuing" support into the kernel
(i.e., not the "traffic shaping device" which is in the device
section)? It should then load modules automatically (well, if
configured in the kernel, that is).

Hm, and you _did_ set up the qdiscs and classes first? OTOH, and I
don't know for sure if that's needed before configuring the filters.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - 2 Questions

2006-02-23 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Thursday 23 February 2006 16:44, a tiny voice compelled Michael Sullivan to 
write:
> On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:41 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote:
> > On Thursday 23 February 2006 14:36, a tiny voice compelled Michael
> > Sullivan to
> >
> > write:
> > > PaperPort 6100
> >
> > from:
> > http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html
> >
> > PaperPort 6100  Parport unsupported Most probably not 
> > supported. More
> > details would be appreciated.
> >
> > --
> > Regards, Ernie
>
> What more details do you need, and how would I go about getting them for
> you?  This is my first scanner, and I know barely anything about
> hardware to begin with...


The sane page was asking for more details... If you knew the chipset the 
scanner uses, you might be able to find another supported scanner who's 
backend might work. It's also possible that Visionair didn't make the 
scanner, but rebranded someone else's design.
You might join the Sane-devel list and ask if anyone has had success.
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox PDF integration

2006-02-23 Thread Alan
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 03:40:52PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 15:27, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
> about '[gentoo-user] Firefox PDF integration':
> > Incidentally, which PDF viewer do you like best out of those in portage?
> 
> kpdf :)

Or if you're a GNOME user, evince is quite nice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread John Jolet
Title: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question






On 2/23/06 2:22 PM, "CR Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I’m having a problem with LVM. 
 
I setup a volume group it had 5.91G in Free PE/Size now states 0/0
I have a logical volume inside that I tried to extend
 
It now states 10.91 GB for LV Size. This lv is mounted to /home when I ran lvextend –L+5.91G /dev/vg/home it extended the lv but when you run df-h it doesn’t show an increased size.
 
/dev/mapper/vg-home   5.0G  1.6G  3.2G  33% /home
 
Apparently I missed a step and can’t find any information on how to fix this. Doesn’t it need to know how to format and add the LV extention?
Help would be great.
Yes, you missed a step.  Extending the lv in no way increases the size of the fs.  Extendfs is the command you need to “man”.

Remember, the fs cannot be mounted when you extend it.





[gentoo-user] Trouble with openoffice2 starting up.

2006-02-23 Thread Dennis
I don't use OpenOffice very often.  At some point, I seam to have
upgraded some dependency that is causing OpenOffice not to work any
longer.  I was running openoffice-bin.  I tried compiling the source to
see if that fixed the problem but I still have the same issue.  The
Initial Screen loads up but the progress bar stops about 1/3 the way
through and then nothing ever happens.

>strace oowriter2

== cut lots of output ==
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [INT CHLD], [], 8) = 0
_llseek(255, -77, [6707], SEEK_CUR) = 0
clone(child_stack=0,
flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD,
child_tidptr=0xb7e6a6f8) = 9597
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [CHLD], [], 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8077c60, [], 0}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0
waitpid(-1,

All of the ooXXX programs stop in exactly the same place.

I'm running gentoo-sources 2.6.14
glibc 2.3.5-r2

If I kill the program, that gets rid of the soffice process but I still
have to execute an additional kill -9  process before that
will exit.

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[gentoo-user] cpufreqd error and pmu + other error

2006-02-23 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi list,
   seeing my /var/log/errors file, i've discovered two entries that
i'm not understanding at all:


syslog-ng[10359]: Changing permissions on special file /dev/tty12
cpufreqd: pmu_init : /proc/pmu/info: No such file or directory

in my cpufreqd.conf i didn't have any references to pmu

Any ideas?
regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon

2006-02-23 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Bo Andresen wrote:
> I don't have a kernel module called radeon. I guess that's the
> problem..

Aah!  But that module is provided by x11-base/x11-drm.  Maybe you 
need to add the video_cards_ati USE flag?

> You are suggesting I move to version udev-084?

Only when you have the radeon module and it somehow doesn't create 
the device node correctly and you have tried everything else.

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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 15:56, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec 
format error':
> > > Will a 64 bit kernel be able to run a 32 bit bash?
> >
> > A 64-bit kernel will run 32-bit binaries fine... Um, there may be a
> > needed kernel option though... CONFIG_IA32_EMUL? Anyone?
>
> I cannot seem to find any such kernel config option.

I think these are relevant:
$ zgrep -i ia32 /proc/config.gz
CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y
CONFIG_IA32_AOUT=y

> > > In order to get a 64
> > > bit kernel a have to set CFLAGS=-march=k8
> >
> > Your CFLAGS in make.conf don't affect your kernel, normally.
>
> Didn't really think so either. It's just that I still get  the Exec
> format error when I try to chroot. Is there a way to very that I really
> am running a 64 kernel?

I believe this tells you:
$ uname -m
x86_64

> > > and set the processor type to
> > > K8 in the kernel configuration, right?
> >
> > Just setting the proper processor type should build your kernel as
> > 64-bit.
>
> Did do that.

The only thing I can't think of at this point is something from the gentoo 
cross compile howto from vapier that may or may not apply:

"If you want to cross compile a kernel, do this:
 make ARCH=hppa CROSS_COMPILE=hppa2.0-unknown-linux-gnu-"

So, you may want to configure, make, and install your kernel like:
make ARCH=x86_64 menuconfig
make ARCH=x86_64
make ARCH=x86_64 install

(You don't need a CROSS_COMPILE prefix since gcc should work fine.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 15:59, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 
'Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question':
> Remember, the fs cannot be mounted when you extend it.

LOL!

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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon

2006-02-23 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 23 February 2006 23:30, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > I don't have a kernel module called radeon. I guess that's the
> > problem..
>
> Aah!  But that module is provided by x11-base/x11-drm.  Maybe you
> need to add the video_cards_ati USE flag?

That's it! :D

~$ glxinfo | grep dir
direct rendering: Yes

>From my point of view the problem was that emerge -vp x11-drm gives no 
indication of any use flags being present:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# emerge -vp x11-drm

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-base/x11-drm-20051223  VIDEO_CARDS="ati -i810 -mga -nv 
-savage -sis -tdfx -via" 0 kB
Total size of downloads: 0 kB

I did try with both VIDEO_CARDS="ati" and VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" in make.conf 
but neither gave the radeon kernel module (without any of them it wouldn't 
compile though). But adding video_cards_ati to USE flags solved the problem.

~# grep drm /etc/portage/package.use
x11-base/x11-drm video_cards_ati

Do you think this is a bug in the ebuild?

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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon

2006-02-23 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Bo Andresen wrote:
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 23:30, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> > Aah!  But that module is provided by x11-base/x11-drm.  Maybe
> > you need to add the video_cards_ati USE flag?
>
> That's it! :D

:)  Congrats.

> I did try with both VIDEO_CARDS="ati" and VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" in
> make.conf but neither gave the radeon kernel module (without any
> of them it wouldn't compile though). But adding video_cards_ati
> to USE flags solved the problem.
>
> Do you think this is a bug in the ebuild?

No.  But maybe it is a bug in the newer version of portage that you 
use, because here the VIDEO_CARDS="via" gets autoconverted to the 
video_cards_via USE flag.  Maybe try again, taking extra care to 
avoid typos in VIDEO_CARDS="ati"?

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[gentoo-user] [OT] how to mount IXUS 40?

2006-02-23 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Hi,

'digikam' works fine with this digital Canon camera. Also I can insert 
an SD-card into a card-reader and mount it as ordinary flash-card. But
sometimes it is more handy to mount SD-card directly via camera's USB-port.
'/var/log/meassages' fragment is below.

Please, point me where to dig in.

Andrew

Feb 24 02:20:39 anli hub 1-0:1.0: state 5 ports 6 chg  evt 0040
Feb 24 02:20:39 anli ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: GetStatus port 6 status 001803 
POWER sig=j CSC CONNECT
Feb 24 02:20:39 anli hub 1-0:1.0: port 6, status 0501, change 0001, 480 Mb/s
Feb 24 02:20:39 anli hub 1-0:1.0: debounce: port 6: total 100ms stable 100ms 
status 0x501
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: port 6 full speed --> companion
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: GetStatus port 6 status 003801 
POWER OWNER sig=j CONNECT
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: wakeup_rh (auto-start)
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli hub 4-0:1.0: state 5 ports 2 chg  evt 0004
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: port 2 portsc 0093,00
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli hub 4-0:1.0: port 2, status 0101, change 0001, 12 Mb/s
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli hub 4-0:1.0: debounce: port 2: total 100ms stable 100ms 
status 0x101
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and 
address 13
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli usb 4-2: ep0 maxpacket = 8
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli usb 4-2: default language 0x0409
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli usb 4-2: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=0
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli usb 4-2: Product: Canon Digital Camera
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli usb 4-2: Manufacturer: Canon Inc.
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli usb 4-2: hotplug
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli usb 4-2: adding 4-2:1.0 (config #1, interface 0)
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli usb 4-2:1.0: hotplug
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli drivers/usb/core/inode.c: creating file '013'
Feb 24 02:20:40 anli hub 4-0:1.0: state 5 ports 2 chg  evt 0004
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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Bo Andresen
On Thursday 23 February 2006 23:33, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 15:56, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > A 64-bit kernel will run 32-bit binaries fine... Um, there may be a
> > > needed kernel option though... CONFIG_IA32_EMUL? Anyone?
> >
> > I cannot seem to find any such kernel config option.
>
> I think these are relevant:
> $ zgrep -i ia32 /proc/config.gz
> CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y
> CONFIG_IA32_AOUT=y

I cannot find those options.

~ # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i '32\|k8'
CONFIG_X86_32=y
CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32
CONFIG_MK8=y
# CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2322 is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_NSP32 is not set
# CONFIG_PCNET32 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_MCT_U232 is not set
# CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_932 is not set
CONFIG_CRYPTO_CRC32C=m
CONFIG_CRC32=y
CONFIG_LIBCRC32C=m

I notice CONFIG_X86_32=y but cannot figure out where to change that in make 
menuconfig. Typing /X86_32 just gives this as a search result:

Symbol: X86_32 [=y]

> > Is there a way to verify that I really
> > am running a 64 kernel?
>
> I believe this tells you:
> $ uname -m
> x86_64

~ # uname -m
i686

> So, you may want to configure, make, and install your kernel like:
> make ARCH=x86_64 menuconfig
> make ARCH=x86_64
> make ARCH=x86_64 install
>
> (You don't need a CROSS_COMPILE prefix since gcc should work fine.)

Should I ignore all these warnings?

# make ARCH=x86_64 menuconfig
scripts/kconfig/mconf arch/x86_64/Kconfig
#
# using defaults found in .config
#
.config:90:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_ELAN
.config:91:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_VOYAGER
.config:93:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_SUMMIT
.config:94:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_BIGSMP
.config:96:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_GENERICARCH
.config:97:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_ES7000
.config:98:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol M386
.config:99:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol M486
.config:100:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol M586
.config:101:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol M586TSC
.config:102:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol M586MMX
.config:103:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol M686
.config:104:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MPENTIUMII
.config:105:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MPENTIUMIII
.config:106:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MPENTIUMM
.config:107:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MPENTIUM4
.config:108:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MK6
.config:109:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MK7
.config:111:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MCRUSOE
.config:112:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MEFFICEON
.config:113:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MWINCHIPC6
.config:114:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MWINCHIP2
.config:115:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MWINCHIP3D
.config:116:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MGEODEGX1
.config:117:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MCYRIXIII
.config:118:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol MVIAC3_2
.config:119:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_GENERIC
.config:121:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_XADD
.config:125:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_WP_WORKS_OK
.config:126:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_INVLPG
.config:127:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_BSWAP
.config:128:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_POPAD_OK
.config:129:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_CMPXCHG64
.config:131:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_INTEL_USERCOPY
.config:132:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM
.config:140:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_UP_APIC
.config:141:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_UP_IOAPIC
.config:145:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_MCE_NONFATAL
.config:146:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_MCE_P4THERMAL
.config:147:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol TOSHIBA
.config:148:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol I8K
.config:149:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_REBOOTFIXUPS
.config:160:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol NOHIGHMEM
.config:161:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol HIGHMEM4G
.config:174:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol REGPARM
.config:220:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol APM
.config:231:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol PCI_GOBIOS
.config:232:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol PCI_GOMMCONFIG
.config:233:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol PCI_GODIRECT
.config:234:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol PCI_GOANY
.config:1405:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_FIND_SMP_CONFIG
.config:1406:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol X86_MPPARSE

RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread CR Little
Apparently when I created my first drive pv. I missed something as well

I have /dev/sda8-14 which are not set allocatable

--- NEW Physical volume ---
  PV Name   /dev/sda14
  VG Name
  PV Size   8.93 GB
  Allocatable   NO
  PE Size (KByte)   0
  Total PE  0
  Free PE   0
  Allocated PE  0
  PV UUID   6Rw2Qm-V9ah-BlsX-Dl2V-vDSk-K5Fl-K8Jun3

I ran pvchange and got the following results.
pvchange -x y /dev/sda8 /dev/sda9 /dev/sda10 /dev/sda11 /dev/sda12
/dev/sda13 /dev/sda14
  Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda8
  Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda9
  Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda10
  Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda11
  Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda12
  Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda13
  Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda14
  0 physical volumes changed / 7 physical volumes not changed

Any help in getting these partitions to allocate would help. It's about
130Gigs of space.


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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:35 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
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On Thursday 23 February 2006 15:59, John Jolet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
about 
'Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question':
> Remember, the fs cannot be mounted when you extend it.

LOL!

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Re: [gentoo-user] 3d rendering with dri radeon

2006-02-23 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 24 February 2006 00:04, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
> Bo Andresen wrote:
> > Do you think this is a bug in the ebuild?
>
> No.  But maybe it is a bug in the newer version of portage that you
> use, because here the VIDEO_CARDS="via" gets autoconverted to the
> video_cards_via USE flag.  Maybe try again, taking extra care to
> avoid typos in VIDEO_CARDS="ati"?

I did do that. And as stated before it won't compile without the VIDEO_CARDS 
variable in it's environment. Tried several times with both ati and radeon..

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[gentoo-user] Problems with kicker

2006-02-23 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 03:42:38PM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote

> and what is about kicker?
> it can autohide - and if you have koffice installed, you should have covered 
> most of its dependencies.

  I don't have KOffice on this machine; I was using KOffice as an
example of a useful application, as opposed to a fancy desktop.

  kicker seems to have problems on my system, to say the least.  I don't
have the full KDE install, and this is causing problems, even if it
doesn't specifically list the full KDE as a dependency.  When I
right-click on the panel, and select "Configure Panel", it's empty.

  It doesn't autohide.  I can use the arrow to manually hide/unhide.
However, after the 2nd or 3rd time, it crashes X, bringing me back to
the text console.  I've unmerged it, and the packages it pulled in.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 14:34 -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> Just an update;
> 
> I unmasked and emerged vbetool-0.3 and it installed and emerged just 
> fine.  I configured the /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf script to use it 
> and now it works, but only if I use the hibernate command.  If I use 
> kde's klaptop monitor, it doesn't seem to use the hibernate script, 
> meaning no video after suspend, and no network cards after hibernate.  
> Is there anything I can do to get it to read that script?

I don't actually have klaptop working properly yet (tells me there is no
ACPI support...)

But, I suspect that klaptop uses swsusp, not suspend2.

If this is the case, there was talk on the suspend2 list for overriding
that somehow (just looking through emails now...)

The proposal was to be able to:

$ echo "/sbin/hibernate" > /proc/suspend2/override_swsusp

to set your "suspend type" and then:

$ echo disk > /sys/power/state

would use the hibernate script.

I don't know if this is implemented yet.  Also, some kde person may tell
you that klaptop can support whatever method of suspend you want - I
don't know.

I just suspend from a terminal anyway :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-23 Thread Alexander Kirillov

BSD ports system may not be as complex as Gentoo's
and needs more attention to maintain port dependencies
but this "abuse of make" IS REAL FAST.


portage is REAL SLOW.
So you should install/use cdb, which makes the whole rsync/update process REAL 
FAST.



If you sync regularly it's usually within 5 min.


it is, with cdb.


Thanks for the hint.
If I got it right here's the link for those interested:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb
Looks very interesting and I wonder why is it not in portage yet?

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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 17:25, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec 
format error':
> On Thursday 23 February 2006 23:33, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Thursday 23 February 2006 15:56, Bo Andresen
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > > A 64-bit kernel will run 32-bit binaries fine... Um, there may be
> > > > a needed kernel option though...
> >
> > I think these are relevant:
> > $ zgrep -i ia32 /proc/config.gz
> > CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y
> > CONFIG_IA32_AOUT=y
>
> I cannot find those options.

[See below]

> ~ # uname -m
> i686

So, that's definitely not a 64-bit kernel.

> > So, you may want to configure, make, and install your kernel like:
> > make ARCH=x86_64 menuconfig
> > make ARCH=x86_64
> > make ARCH=x86_64 install
> >
> > (You don't need a CROSS_COMPILE prefix since gcc should work fine.)
>
> Should I ignore all these warnings?

I think yes.  The first 2 dozen or so are definitely x86 specific and not 
applicable to x86_64.  I'm going to bet the others are too.  Notice this 
line:

> # using defaults found in .config

So, it's starting from your i686 config, and trying to use it to assign as 
many symbols as possible to the new x86_64 kernel.  Some of the symbols 
just won't exist.

When you 'make ARCH=x86_64 menuconfig', can you find the IA32 configuration 
options?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 17:29, "CR Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LVM Newbie Question':
> Apparently when I created my first drive pv. I missed something as well
>
> I have /dev/sda8-14 which are not set allocatable
> I ran pvchange and got the following results.
> pvchange -x y /dev/sda8 /dev/sda9 /dev/sda10 /dev/sda11 /dev/sda12
> /dev/sda13 /dev/sda14
>   Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda8
>   Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda9
>   Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda10
>   Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda11
>   Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda12
>   Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda13
>   Allocatability not supported by orphan lvm2 format PV /dev/sda14
>   0 physical volumes changed / 7 physical volumes not changed
>
> Any help in getting these partitions to allocate would help. It's about
> 130Gigs of space.

They are orphans, meaning not in a volume group, so they can't be 
allocatable.  (Space is always allocated out of a volume group.)

You probably want to vgextend vg /dev/sda[89] /dev/sda1[0-4] before your 
pvchange command.

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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 24 February 2006 00:52, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> So, it's starting from your i686 config, and trying to use it to assign as
> many symbols as possible to the new x86_64 kernel.  Some of the symbols
> just won't exist.
>
> When you 'make ARCH=x86_64 menuconfig', can you find the IA32 configuration
> options?

Indeed I can. Thanks. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 24 February 2006 01:12, Bo Andresen wrote:
> On Friday 24 February 2006 00:52, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > So, it's starting from your i686 config, and trying to use it to assign
> > as many symbols as possible to the new x86_64 kernel.  Some of the
> > symbols just won't exist.
> >
> > When you 'make ARCH=x86_64 menuconfig', can you find the IA32
> > configuration options?
>
> Indeed I can. Thanks. :)

Unfortunately, however, it doesn't compile.. :(

# make ARCH=x86_64
  CHK include/linux/version.h
  SPLIT   include/linux/autoconf.h -> include/config/*
  CC  arch/x86_64/kernel/asm-offsets.s
cc1: error: code model `kernel' not supported in the 32 bit mode
make[1]: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel/asm-offsets.s] Error 1
make: *** [prepare0] Error 2

Going to bed now. Will look at it tomorrow.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Mike Myers

Hey Iain,

Thanks for the info!  I kinda figured that klaptop did something 
different.  It obviously didn't run the hibernate.conf scripts.  I guess 
I can settle for running hibernate in the console, I mean, that's better 
than nothing, really.  Klaptop and gkrellm at least still give a good 
indication of the battery status.   Anyway, I'll start bugging the 
people on the suspend2 lists now about it.  thanks a lot!


Mike

Iain Buchanan wrote:


On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 14:34 -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
 


Just an update;

I unmasked and emerged vbetool-0.3 and it installed and emerged just 
fine.  I configured the /etc/hibernate/hibernate.conf script to use it 
and now it works, but only if I use the hibernate command.  If I use 
kde's klaptop monitor, it doesn't seem to use the hibernate script, 
meaning no video after suspend, and no network cards after hibernate.  
Is there anything I can do to get it to read that script?
   



I don't actually have klaptop working properly yet (tells me there is no
ACPI support...)

But, I suspect that klaptop uses swsusp, not suspend2.

If this is the case, there was talk on the suspend2 list for overriding
that somehow (just looking through emails now...)

The proposal was to be able to:

$ echo "/sbin/hibernate" > /proc/suspend2/override_swsusp

to set your "suspend type" and then:

$ echo disk > /sys/power/state

would use the hibernate script.

I don't know if this is implemented yet.  Also, some kde person may tell
you that klaptop can support whatever method of suspend you want - I
don't know.

I just suspend from a terminal anyway :)

HTH,
 



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Re: [gentoo-user] CVSup vs Gentoo's Rsync

2006-02-23 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 24 February 2006 00:39, Alexander Kirillov wrote:
> >>BSD ports system may not be as complex as Gentoo's
> >>and needs more attention to maintain port dependencies
> >>but this "abuse of make" IS REAL FAST.
> >
> > portage is REAL SLOW.
> > So you should install/use cdb, which makes the whole rsync/update process
> > REAL FAST.
> >
> >>If you sync regularly it's usually within 5 min.
> >
> > it is, with cdb.
>
> Thanks for the hint.
> If I got it right here's the link for those interested:
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_speed_up_portage_with_cdb
> Looks very interesting and I wonder why is it not in portage yet?

well ,the chat log  tells you why ;)

but you also look into the forum. A portage update broke it for me, and in the 
forum were updated instructions - I don't know, if the gentoowiki was updated 
too.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with kicker

2006-02-23 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 24 February 2006 00:33, Walter Dnes wrote:

>
>   kicker seems to have problems on my system, to say the least.  I don't
> have the full KDE install, and this is causing problems, even if it
> doesn't specifically list the full KDE as a dependency.  When I
> right-click on the panel, and select "Configure Panel", it's empty.

well, I am using a full KDE, and so I don't know which package you were 
missing.

>
>   It doesn't autohide.  I can use the arrow to manually hide/unhide.
> However, after the 2nd or 3rd time, it crashes X, bringing me back to
> the text console.  I've unmerged it, and the packages it pulled in.

well, with control center or a working menu, you can tell kicker to autohide.

And at least, it has a lot less deps than gnome panel.
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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 18:16, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec 
format error':
> On Friday 24 February 2006 01:12, Bo Andresen wrote:
> > On Friday 24 February 2006 00:52, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > When you 'make ARCH=x86_64 menuconfig', can you find the IA32
> > > configuration options?
> >
> > Indeed I can. Thanks. :)
>
> Unfortunately, however, it doesn't compile.. :(
>
> # make ARCH=x86_64
>   CHK include/linux/version.h
>   SPLIT   include/linux/autoconf.h -> include/config/*
>   CC  arch/x86_64/kernel/asm-offsets.s
> cc1: error: code model `kernel' not supported in the 32 bit mode
> make[1]: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel/asm-offsets.s] Error 1
> make: *** [prepare0] Error 2
>
> Going to bed now. Will look at it tomorrow.

Oy, oy, oy.  No wonder my friends would rather fsck with the amd64 live cd 
(that panics on boot unless the BIOS settings are /really/ special) than 
start off in 32-bit land.

Anyway, I think what you probably need to do is append -m64 to your CFLAGS.

Try:
make ARCH=x86_64 CFLAGS=-m64
I'll go fiddle a bit, too.  I'm already running a 64-bit userland, but I 
have an i686 "cross"-compiler installed, maybe I can iron out think kinks 
in the process for ya.

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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 23 February 2006 18:32, "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run 
command `bin/bash': Exec format error':
> Try:
> make ARCH=x86_64 CFLAGS=-m64

Nah, don't.  It won't help, the kernel's Makefile doesn't pay attention to 
CFLAGS, it sets up it's own based on your .config.

While I didn't get the same error as you, I see definite "I'm trying to 
compile 64-bit assembly into 32-bit binaries"-style errors when compiling 
with:
make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu-
make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- CFLAGS="-m32"
make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- CFLAGS="-m64"
and
make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- CC="gcc -m32"

However, I /was/ able to convince the kernel to build with
make ARCH=x86_64 CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- CC="gcc -m64"
although I didn't see if that would boot.

So, why don't you give it a go with:
make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64" menuconfig
make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64"
make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64" modules_install
make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64" install

and let me know how it goes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error

2006-02-23 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 24 February 2006 01:56, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> So, why don't you give it a go with:
> make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64" menuconfig
> make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64"
> make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64" modules_install
> make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64" install
>
> and let me know how it goes.

linux # make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64" clean
  CLEAN   .tmp_versions

# make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64" menuconfig
  HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep
  HOSTCC  scripts/basic/split-include
  HOSTCC  scripts/basic/docproc
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/conf.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/kxgettext.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/mconf.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/kconfig/zconf.tab.o
  HOSTLD  scripts/kconfig/mconf
  HOSTCC  scripts/lxdialog/checklist.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/lxdialog/inputbox.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/lxdialog/lxdialog.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/lxdialog/menubox.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/lxdialog/msgbox.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/lxdialog/textbox.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/lxdialog/util.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/lxdialog/yesno.o
  HOSTLD  scripts/lxdialog/lxdialog
scripts/kconfig/mconf arch/x86_64/Kconfig
#
# using defaults found in .config
#


*** End of Linux kernel configuration.
*** Execute 'make' to build the kernel or try 'make help'.

via linux # make ARCH=x86_64 CC="gcc -m64"
  CHK include/linux/version.h
  UPD include/linux/version.h
  SPLIT   include/linux/autoconf.h -> include/config/*
  CC  arch/x86_64/kernel/asm-offsets.s
cc1: error: code model `kernel' not supported in the 32 bit mode
cc1: sorry, unimplemented: 64-bit mode not compiled in
make[1]: *** [arch/x86_64/kernel/asm-offsets.s] Error 1
make: *** [prepare0] Error 2

# gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, 
pie-8.7.7.1)
Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend2 issues

2006-02-23 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 18:18 -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> Thanks for the info!  I kinda figured that klaptop did something 
> different.  It obviously didn't run the hibernate.conf scripts.  I guess 
> I can settle for running hibernate in the console, I mean, that's better 
> than nothing, really.

You could also set up a taskbar shortcut:

bash -c "sudo hibernate"

(Don't know if running it in bash is necessary, but I have multiline
taskbar buttons, so I spawn them with bash)

Then you can set a nice icon to it!  You could even give yourself sudo
privileges for hibernate so you don't have to enter a password...

aaahhh, Linux!
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[gentoo-user] apache and php

2006-02-23 Thread Nick Smith
i know there has been alot of reconstruction with the php files in
gentoo in the past, had alot of problems with one of my old web
servers, horde wants php5 everything else doesnt.
well ive setup a new server, decided i would install horde right out
of the gate and let it pull down what it wanted and hopefully avoid
any problemsWRONG.

i have nothing even php related installed and this is what i get when
i -pv the emerge:

burtha linux # emerge horde horde-imp -pv

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] dev-php/mod_php (is blocking dev-lang/php-5.0.5-r5)
[blocks B ] dev-php/php (is blocking dev-lang/php-5.0.5-r5)
[blocks B ] dev-php/mod_php (is blocking dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.4.6-r1)
[blocks B ] dev-php/php (is blocking dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.4.6-r1)
[ebuild  N] net-www/apache-2.0.55-r1  +apache2 -debug -doc -ldap
-mpm-leader (-mpm-peruser) -mpm-prefork -mpm-threadpool -mpm-worker
-no-suexec (-selinux) +ssl -static-modules +threads 4,684 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/mod_php-4.4.0-r9  -X +apache2 +berkdb +crypt
-curl -debug -doc (-fdftk) -firebird -flash -freetds +gd +gd-external
+gdbm -gmp -hardenedphp +imap (-informix) -ipv6 -java +jpeg -kerberos
-ldap -mcal -memlimit -mssql +mysql +nls (-oci8) -odbc +pam +png
-postgres -snmp +spell +ssl -tiff +truetype +xml2 -yaz 4,340 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/php-4.4.0-r4  -X +berkdb +crypt -curl -debug
-doc (-fdftk) -firebird -flash -freetds +gd +gd-external +gdbm -gmp
-hardenedphp +imap (-informix) -ipv6 -java +jpeg -kerberos -ldap -mcal
-memlimit -mssql +mysql +ncurses +nls (-oci8) -odbc +pam +png
-postgres +readline -snmp +spell +ssl -tiff +truetype +xml2 -yaz 0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-admin/php-toolkit-1.0-r2  0 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-lang/php-5.0.5-r5  (-adabas) -apache +apache2
-bcmath +berkdb (-birdstep) +bzip2 -calendar -cdb -cgi -cjk -cli
+crypt -ctype -curl -curlwrappers (-db2) -dba -dbase (-dbmaker) -debug
-discard-path -doc (-empress) (-empress-bcs) (-esoob) -exif (-fdftk)
(-filepro) -firebird -flatfile -force-cgi-redirect (-frontbase) -ftp
+gd +gd-external +gdbm -gmp -hardenedphp (-hyperwave-api) -iconv +imap
(-informix) -inifile -interbase -iodbc -ipv6 -java-external -kerberos
-ldap (-libedit) -mcve -memlimit -mhash -ming -mnogosearch -msql
-mssql +mysql -mysqli +ncurses +nls (-oci8) (-oci8-instant-client)
-odbc (-oracle7) -ovrimos -pcntl -pcre -pdo-external (-pfpro) (-pic)
-posix -postgres -qdbm +readline -recode -sapdb -sasl +session
-sharedext -sharedmem -simplexml -snmp -soap -sockets (-solid) +spell
-spl -sqlite +ssl (-sybase) (-sybase-ct) -sysvipc +threads -tidy -tiff
-tokenizer +truetype -wddx +xml -xmlrpc -xpm -xsl -yaz -zip +zlib
4,797 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.4.6-r1  317 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Mail_Mime-1.3.1-r1  16 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-File-1.2.2  15 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-DB-1.7.6-r1  121 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Log-1.9.3  33 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Auth_SASL-1.0.1-r1  5 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Net_Socket-1.0.6-r1  4 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Net_SMTP-1.2.7  10 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Mail-1.1.9  16 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Cache-1.5.4-r1  29 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Net_URL-1.0.14-r1  5 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-HTTP_Request-1.3.0  13 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Net_DIME-0.3-r1  6 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-SOAP-0.9.1  67 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-XML_Parser-1.2.7  12 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-XML_Util-1.1.1-r1  8 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-XML_Serializer-0.18.0  22 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Services_Weather-1.3.2-r1  43 kB
[ebuild  N] dev-php/PEAR-Date-1.4.6  52 kB
[ebuild  N] www-apps/horde-pear-1.3-r3  0 kB
[ebuild  N] app-admin/webapp-config-1.11  53 kB
[ebuild  N] www-apps/horde-2.2.9  +mysql +vhosts 667 kB
[ebuild  N] www-apps/horde-imp-3.2.8  +vhosts 1,550 kB

now what is up with that? why cant it pick one!! what do i have to do
to get this working now, i didnt figure i would have an issue on a new
server, but i guess i was wrong.

Thanks for any and all help.

Nick

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Any auto-hiding panels with a bunch of dependancies?

2006-02-23 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 06:55:40PM -0700, Robert Morris wrote

> You could try pypanel. It has the autohide feature, but I'm not sure
> that it responds to ALT-TAB. It's been a while since I've used it.

  Thank you very much.  It only pulls in 3 dependancies.  It looks to be
exactly what I want.  I'm part way through copying my applications list
from ~/.fbpanel/default to ~/.pypanelrc.  Later tonight, after unmerging
fbpanel, I'll get to play with emerge and equery and revdep-rebuild.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gst-plugins

2006-02-23 Thread Andrew Frink
Graham,This happend to me on the .8.10 to .8.11 i just masked <=gst-*-0.8.10 Cynyr.On 2/23/06, Graham Murray <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:[rant mode] Many of the gstreamer plugins, but not all of them, have
been updated (in ~x86) to 0.8.12. That some of them are still at0.8.11 is causing an upgrade/download emerge loop. As all of theseplugins are built from the same source but with different configureoptions, would it not be possible to commit all of them to the tree at
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox PDF integration

2006-02-23 Thread Matthew Cline
On 2/23/06, Renat Golubchyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use xpdf, because acroread takes ages to load. For this to
> work I added xpdf as handler for the "application/pdf" MIME-type to the
> list of helper applications. It should be somewhere in the preferences.

I can't seem to find this option in firefox 1.5.0.1

Under "Edit -> Preferences -> Downloads" I see "Download actions".
Clicking on "View and Edit Actions" shows an entry for some
Flash-related files, but nothing for pdf and no option to add a new
entry to this list. Am I missing something obvious?


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