Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Monday 26 October 2009 23:10:01 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:31 Mick wrote: > > > Create the conventional addressbooks as files in > > > ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 > > > > Hmm I didn't have any files in there, there were all under > > ~/.kde3.5/share/apps/* > > > > I have set up conventional files or directories for all categories in > > there (kmail, addressbook, notes, calendar) but it still tries to start > > Akonadi. > > When all else fails, I like to use big guns: > > grep -r akonadi ~/.kde4/share/config/* > > and start trawling through the output Thanks Alan, I can't see much to trawl through I'm afraid: $ grep -ri akonadi ~/.kde4/share/config/* /home/michael/.kde4/share/config/kres-migratorrc:Recent Files[$e]=$HOME/Akonadi_error.txt,$HOME/Akonadi_error.txt /home/michael/.kde4/share/config/kwriterc:File8[$e]=$HOME/Akonadi_error.txt /home/michael/.kde4/share/config/kwriterc:Name8[$e]=Akonadi_error.txt Just the recent akonadi error file that I opened with kwrite. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
On Monday 26 October 2009 23:07:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:45:07 Mick wrote: > > I have been trying to get this to work for some time now. I have > > followed this upgrade guide and modified my > > > > /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi > > > > to include > > > > > type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > > > This didn't work, so I looked further and found out that the > > input.xkb.options is deprecated and instead I should use: > > > > > type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > > > as detailed in here: > > > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/tree/config/x11-input.fdi > > > > Anyway, neither will work. Is there any other syntax I should try, or is > > perhaps 10-xinput-configuration.fdi the wrong file for this? > > This config works for me: > > $ cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi > > > > > > >evdev > > > > > mouse > string="Linux"> > evdev > > > > > string="Linux"> > evdev > > > > > mouse > string="Linux"> > evdev > > > > > > keyboard > string="Linux"> > evdev > type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > > > > Thanks Alan, I can't see mine being that different to be honest, other than using the file /../policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi instead of your /../policy/10-x11-input.fdi to make these entries. Would that be important? I can get the: grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu work, or I can get the: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp work, but not both at the same time. Here's my configuration in case you can see something amiss: # cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi [1] pc105 gb,el grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:menu terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp synaptics true true true 1 1 [1] I had this as: [2] I also tried: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > > > Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 21:29:24 schrieb covici: > > > What are new style networking scripts -- which package is that. The > > > /etc/conf.d/net.example seems not to have changed since May. > > > > The ones that come with newer versions of openrc. If you decide to use > > them, > > your configuration now goes into network, but you also have to use the > > corresponding init script. > I do have openrc 0.5.2-r1 -- is there some documentation of the new > style? For dhcp things still work correctly in /etc/conf.d/net and > even for a static one if I don't need a default route, it seems to work. > Just to let people know, the solution was just a reboot, I didn't need to go to the new style of netowrk, which I have a lot of questions about anyway, but this is all that was necessary. Very strange indeed. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile
Harry Putnam wrote: > In fact what does `developer' buy you? Among other things, it enables I_KNOW_WHAT_I_AM_DOING, which tells you the expected audience :). Seriously, the developer profiles are mainly for Gentoo Devs, people who are going to be doing a lot of debugging and testing of ebuilds. If you don't know if this is you, it isn't. -- Jonathan
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
W.Kenworthy wrote: > On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 01:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On Tuesday 27 October 2009 01:48:22 William Kenworthy wrote: >> >>> rattus ~ # eselect profile list >>> Available profile symlink targets: >>> [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 * >>> [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop >>> [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer >>> [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server >>> [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0 >>> [6] selinux/2007.0/x86 >>> [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened >>> [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86 >>> [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop >>> [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer >>> [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened >>> [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server >>> rattus ~ # >>> >> In almost all cases [2] or [4] is a better choice than [1] >> >> >> >> > > I wouldnt think so - I have a lot of server apps and desktop apps, even > on my laptop and main server at home. I dont have such a thing as a > pure server or a pure desktop so I stuck with this. I did change to > desktop once on my laptop and didnt like the number of changes I would > need to revert so didnt proceed. I my personal opinion is that having > developer, server and desktop profiles for gentoo is just stupid. > redhat/Mandrake etc have had this for a long time and they just are a > way to start customising the system - dont save much at all. > > I guess the question is where do you start customising from? - a > desktop, a server or gentoo 1.1b circa 1999 (if memory serves me > correctly) which is where some of my systems (including the one above) > started :) > > > BillK > > Well, I read you can put something in your make.conf USE line that disables most of the profile. I think it is "-*" or something like that. It disables the USE part at least. You can then start with basically nothing and build your own. Want to hear something else funny, there is talk of having a KDE profile and some have mentioned a Gnome profile as well. No matter what you chose to use, you can still override the settings if you need to. That's what make.conf is for. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge advises upgrade profile
Alan McKinnon writes: >> [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 * >> [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop >> [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer >> [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server >> [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0 >> [6] selinux/2007.0/x86 >> [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened >> [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86 >> [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop >> [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer >> [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened >> [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server >> rattus ~ # > > In almost all cases [2] or [4] is a better choice than [1] Alan, what does it get you? In fact what does `developer' buy you?
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 01:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 01:48:22 William Kenworthy wrote: > > rattus ~ # eselect profile list > > Available profile symlink targets: > > [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 * > > [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop > > [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer > > [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server > > [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0 > > [6] selinux/2007.0/x86 > > [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened > > [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86 > > [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop > > [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer > > [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened > > [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server > > rattus ~ # > > In almost all cases [2] or [4] is a better choice than [1] > > > I wouldnt think so - I have a lot of server apps and desktop apps, even on my laptop and main server at home. I dont have such a thing as a pure server or a pure desktop so I stuck with this. I did change to desktop once on my laptop and didnt like the number of changes I would need to revert so didnt proceed. I my personal opinion is that having developer, server and desktop profiles for gentoo is just stupid. redhat/Mandrake etc have had this for a long time and they just are a way to start customising the system - dont save much at all. I guess the question is where do you start customising from? - a desktop, a server or gentoo 1.1b circa 1999 (if memory serves me correctly) which is where some of my systems (including the one above) started :) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] strange dmesg output - RESOLVED
Ok, this is too weird. While mucking around in the kernel I noticed that the scroll back buffer wasn't set. So I configured it and gave it 128 bytes to play with. Sez I, well at least I'll be able to scroll back to the start of all that verbiage. That's the only change I've made since turning USB_STORAGE debugging off. After a reboot, dmesg behaved and gives me a complete rundown on startup all the way back to the prompt! So, since in the digital world, things don't "just happen", can someone enlighten me, or anyone else who's interested, in the connection between the scrollback buffer and usb-storage, if any? mw
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 27.10.2009 01:27, schrieb Dale: > > >> I'm just grateful for the geek that put the SysRq key sequence in the >> kernel. At least you can get back to a working console and fix the >> stupid thing. >> > > I use ati-drivers here and killing xorg with SysRq only gets me a blank > black screen and a system so deep frozen that even SysRq can't help > anymore. > > So that makes my hate for hal only deeper and colder… > > Greetings > > Sebastian > > > This is the sequence you tried I hope. This is copied from a message sent to me a loong time ago. Hold down Atl, hold down SysRq, press each of the keys in turn. The usual full sequence is R-E-I-S-U-B Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken I usually wait a few seconds between each one and only get to press about 2 or 3 when my console shows up. I am using a Nvidia card tho so it may be something different about ATI. Also, someone said a while back that you have to have that option built into the kernel. Have you checked to make sure you have it build in? I think the default is that it is there but never hurts to make certain. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] strange dmesg output
> #CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set > [edit] CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG = y I turned it off, recompiled, copied the kernel over and rebooted. $dmesg still displays the verbose 'usb-storage' lines and excludes everything else here's a long thread on this same subject https://lists.one-eyed-alien.net/pipermail/usb-storage/2008-November/004121.html I don't think he found a solution either. The good news, the system can now see the soundcard. Before I had to run alsaconf at every boot. Is there a connection? mw
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
Am 27.10.2009 01:27, schrieb Dale: > I'm just grateful for the geek that put the SysRq key sequence in the > kernel. At least you can get back to a working console and fix the > stupid thing. I use ati-drivers here and killing xorg with SysRq only gets me a blank black screen and a system so deep frozen that even SysRq can't help anymore. So that makes my hate for hal only deeper and colder… Greetings Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am 27.10.2009 00:50, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > >> I think it's about time we let this hal thing drop though >> > > Even hal developers came to this reasons and droped it ;-) > > So WHY change everything to hal now if hal will be replaced in near > future anyway? > > I changed keyboard and mouse layout back from hal and evdev a few weeks > ago because hal crashes for me all the time and there was more then one > time when I was sitting here and starring at the graphic login screen > unable to do anything because with hal died at bootup there was no > keyboard and mouse to use. > > I really, really hate hal so much.. > > Greetings > > Sebastian > > > I'm just grateful for the geek that put the SysRq key sequence in the kernel. At least you can get back to a working console and fix the stupid thing. I two disabled hal weeks ago. I'm hopeful the next one will be a lot easier and better, not just for me but for everyone else too. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 01:31:27 Harry Putnam wrote: > >> My profile has been >> ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 >> >> starting an update system today I'm told my profile is depricated and >> to update to default/linux/x86/10.0 >> >> I've forgotten about how this is done. Is it just a matter of >> >> ln -sf >> /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0 /etc/make.profile ? >> > > yes > > > >> Or does it involve something like a major regrind of every package? >> > > no > > > >> A quick google with site:gentoo.org "change profile" shows dozens of >> hits in forum messages, but I didn't notice a HOWTO or concise >> walk-thru. >> > > It's in the gentoo docs - remember that long thing you read when you > installed > gentoo the first time, and probably haven't read again? yes, that one :-) > > All a profile does is specify some default standard packages for system, > default USE flags and some other various bits and pieces. Once you have set > your make.conf up the way you want, very little in the way of profile changes > affect you. > > If you find forum posts that go on about large re-emerges of world and other > nonsense, well you should understand that such comments represent the average > level of cluelessness of your average forum user and you should treat it as > such > > > > Yep, I synced the tree, did the profile change and I think I had like two upgrades. I'm pretty sure I would have had those even if I hadn't changed the profile. It is possible to have a lot of packages with changes but not to likely. I subscribe to -dev so I can see most of the screw-ups that are headed my way. Let's not get started on that hal and xorg-server thing again tho. That one surprised me for sure. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
Am 27.10.2009 00:50, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > I think it's about time we let this hal thing drop though Even hal developers came to this reasons and droped it ;-) So WHY change everything to hal now if hal will be replaced in near future anyway? I changed keyboard and mouse layout back from hal and evdev a few weeks ago because hal crashes for me all the time and there was more then one time when I was sitting here and starring at the graphic login screen unable to do anything because with hal died at bootup there was no keyboard and mouse to use. I really, really hate hal so much.. Greetings Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: strange dmesg output
> > It could be some debug flag switched on in the USB storage subsystem. I'm not aware of such a "subsystem". Can you give an example? Maxim
Re: [gentoo-user] strange dmesg output
On 10/25/09, Keith Dart wrote: > === On Sun, 10/25, Maxim Wexler wrote: === >> Did I leave something out of the kernel? I can't think what. > > === > > It looks like you have USB debug turned on. I remember there was a > kernel that was released that had that. Normally it's off, but you > should turn it off if it's on. #CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 01:48:22 William Kenworthy wrote: > rattus ~ # eselect profile list > Available profile symlink targets: > [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 * > [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop > [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer > [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server > [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0 > [6] selinux/2007.0/x86 > [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened > [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86 > [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop > [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer > [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened > [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server > rattus ~ # In almost all cases [2] or [4] is a better choice than [1] > > On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 18:31 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > > My profile has been > > ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 > > > > starting an update system today I'm told my profile is depricated and > > to update to default/linux/x86/10.0 > > > > I've forgotten about how this is done. Is it just a matter of > > > > ln -sf > > /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0 /etc/make.profile ? > > > > Or does it involve something like a major regrind of every package? > > > > A quick google with site:gentoo.org "change profile" shows dozens of > > hits in forum messages, but I didn't notice a HOWTO or concise > > walk-thru. > -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 01:24:32 Dale wrote: > You just got to love that hal. All that when one line does it in > xorg.conf. Yep, it's a serious improvement over the old way. LOL > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > P. S. This was meant to be funny. Note the LOL at the end. > You do understand that in order to cock something up good right and proper, there just HAS to be a computer involved, right? I think it's about time we let this hal thing drop though, I'm getting tired of the debate. In it's place, I nominate the latest humungeous package that replaces a simple one: pulseaudio :-) [note the smiley, in the same place you put a LOL] -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 01:31:27 Harry Putnam wrote: > My profile has been > ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 > > starting an update system today I'm told my profile is depricated and > to update to default/linux/x86/10.0 > > I've forgotten about how this is done. Is it just a matter of > > ln -sf > /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0 /etc/make.profile ? yes > Or does it involve something like a major regrind of every package? no > A quick google with site:gentoo.org "change profile" shows dozens of > hits in forum messages, but I didn't notice a HOWTO or concise > walk-thru. It's in the gentoo docs - remember that long thing you read when you installed gentoo the first time, and probably haven't read again? yes, that one :-) All a profile does is specify some default standard packages for system, default USE flags and some other various bits and pieces. Once you have set your make.conf up the way you want, very little in the way of profile changes affect you. If you find forum posts that go on about large re-emerges of world and other nonsense, well you should understand that such comments represent the average level of cluelessness of your average forum user and you should treat it as such -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
rattus ~ # eselect profile list Available profile symlink targets: [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 * [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0 [6] selinux/2007.0/x86 [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86 [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server rattus ~ # On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 18:31 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > My profile has been > ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 > > starting an update system today I'm told my profile is depricated and > to update to default/linux/x86/10.0 > > I've forgotten about how this is done. Is it just a matter of > > ln -sf > /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0 /etc/make.profile ? > > Or does it involve something like a major regrind of every package? > > A quick google with site:gentoo.org "change profile" shows dozens of > hits in forum messages, but I didn't notice a HOWTO or concise > walk-thru. > > > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
Am 27.10.2009 00:31, schrieb Harry Putnam: > I've forgotten about how this is done. Is it just a matter of > > ln -sf > /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0 /etc/make.profile ? that or eselect profile set default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop (assuming that you are a desktop-user) That is all that is needed to do. New or changeing USE-flags are set the next time you use emerge -DuN world Greetings Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
yes, you can use ln to create a symlink to the new profile, or use eselect to do it for you. $ sudo eselect profile list ... check the number of default/linux/x86/10.0... $ sudo eselect profile set On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > My profile has been >../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 > > starting an update system today I'm told my profile is depricated and > to update to default/linux/x86/10.0 > > I've forgotten about how this is done. Is it just a matter of > > ln -sf > /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0 /etc/make.profile ? > > Or does it involve something like a major regrind of every package? > > A quick google with site:gentoo.org "change profile" shows dozens of > hits in forum messages, but I didn't notice a HOWTO or concise > walk-thru. > > > > > -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
[gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
My profile has been ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 starting an update system today I'm told my profile is depricated and to update to default/linux/x86/10.0 I've forgotten about how this is done. Is it just a matter of ln -sf /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0 /etc/make.profile ? Or does it involve something like a major regrind of every package? A quick google with site:gentoo.org "change profile" shows dozens of hits in forum messages, but I didn't notice a HOWTO or concise walk-thru.
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
Seriously! ;-) > You just got to love that hal. All that when one line does it in > xorg.conf. Yep, it's a serious improvement over the old way. LOL > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > P. S. This was meant to be funny. Note the LOL at the end.
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:45:07 Mick wrote: > >> I have been trying to get this to work for some time now. I have followed >> this upgrade guide and modified my >> >> /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi >> >> to include >> >> > type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp >> >> This didn't work, so I looked further and found out that the >> input.xkb.options is deprecated and instead I should use: >> >> > type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp >> >> as detailed in here: >> >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/tree/config/x11-input.fdi >> >> Anyway, neither will work. Is there any other syntax I should try, or is >> perhaps 10-xinput-configuration.fdi the wrong file for this? >> >> > > This config works for me: > > $ cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi > > > > > > >evdev > > > > > mouse > string="Linux"> > evdev > > > > > string="Linux"> > evdev > > > > > mouse > string="Linux"> > evdev > > > > > > keyboard > string="Linux"> > evdev > type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > > > > > > You just got to love that hal. All that when one line does it in xorg.conf. Yep, it's a serious improvement over the old way. LOL Dale :-) :-) P. S. This was meant to be funny. Note the LOL at the end.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:31 Mick wrote: > > Create the conventional addressbooks as files in > > ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 > > Hmm I didn't have any files in there, there were all under > ~/.kde3.5/share/apps/* > > I have set up conventional files or directories for all categories in > there (kmail, addressbook, notes, calendar) but it still tries to start > Akonadi. > When all else fails, I like to use big guns: grep -r akonadi ~/.kde4/share/config/* and start trawling through the output -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:45:07 Mick wrote: > I have been trying to get this to work for some time now. I have followed > this upgrade guide and modified my > > /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi > > to include > > type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > This didn't work, so I looked further and found out that the > input.xkb.options is deprecated and instead I should use: > > type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp > > as detailed in here: > > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/tree/config/x11-input.fdi > > Anyway, neither will work. Is there any other syntax I should try, or is > perhaps 10-xinput-configuration.fdi the wrong file for this? > This config works for me: $ cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi evdev mouse evdev evdev mouse evdev keyboard evdev terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
On Monday 26 October 2009 22:55:39 Zeerak Waseem wrote: > try adding this to your xorg.conf: > > > Section "Serverflags" > Option "DontZap""False" > EndSection Thanks, but without a xorg.conf file I found through some experimentation that the solution is to add: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp in /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-input.fdi I don't really understand why the same entry is not recognised in the /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi file. Furthermore, now my keyboard settings in the latter are no longer recognised. :-( -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
try adding this to your xorg.conf: Section "Serverflags" Option "DontZap""False" EndSection On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:45:07 +0100, Mick wrote: I have been trying to get this to work for some time now. I have followed this upgrade guide and modified my /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi to include type="string">terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp This didn't work, so I looked further and found out that the input.xkb.options is deprecated and instead I should use: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp as detailed in here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/tree/config/x11-input.fdi Anyway, neither will work. Is there any other syntax I should try, or is perhaps 10-xinput-configuration.fdi the wrong file for this? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
[gentoo-user] Ctrl+Alt+bksp in Xorg
I have been trying to get this to work for some time now. I have followed this upgrade guide and modified my /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi to include terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp This didn't work, so I looked further and found out that the input.xkb.options is deprecated and instead I should use: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp as detailed in here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/tree/config/x11-input.fdi Anyway, neither will work. Is there any other syntax I should try, or is perhaps 10-xinput-configuration.fdi the wrong file for this? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Monday 26 October 2009 20:26:54 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like > > > having trouble getting akonadi to work right, so I set all the kdepim > > > apps to use the resource files directly in the fashion of KDE-3.5 > > > > Can you please share what you did on your system to make this happen > > if you can remember? Over here kde-base/akonadi is dragged in by > > kde-base/kdepim-meta and I haven't found a way to disable it. Every > > time I fire up kmail it starts up and causes delay as it fails to > > find/start mysqld. > > SystemSettings -> Resources Thanks for this! > Create the conventional addressbooks as files in > ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 Hmm I didn't have any files in there, there were all under ~/.kde3.5/share/apps/* I have set up conventional files or directories for all categories in there (kmail, addressbook, notes, calendar) but it still tries to start Akonadi. > In the list of types of resources, there are Akondai related item, just > don't use those, and kmail will use the file directly. > > > I have unmerged nepomuke and all related packages have been remerged > > with -semantic-desktop set in /etc/make.conf: > > akonadi and nepomuk are not the same thing, not even remotely. Thanks I know that. > You can't avoid having akonadi, nepomuk etc pulled in somehow. Just don't > run them. Nepomuk is not pulled in here. Akonadi of course is another matter, because of the kdepim hardcoded dependency. Grateful for any more ideas to make that bloody akonadi give up. :-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 21:29:24 schrieb covici: > > What are new style networking scripts -- which package is that. The > > /etc/conf.d/net.example seems not to have changed since May. > > The ones that come with newer versions of openrc. If you decide to use them, > your configuration now goes into network, but you also have to use the > corresponding init script. I do have openrc 0.5.2-r1 -- is there some documentation of the new style? For dhcp things still work correctly in /etc/conf.d/net and even for a static one if I don't need a default route, it seems to work. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
On Montag 26 Oktober 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 21:47:43 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > > > This only applies if you have switched to new style networking scripts, > > > doesn't it? > > > > and that is why I wrote 'in network' > > But it's only half of the truth. Editing /etc/conf.d/network doesn't have > any effect unless you also drop the old init scripts (net.*) and use the > new one (network). > > Bye... > > Dirk > I had a typo in network. I did not had network in default. net did not start correctly.
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 21:47:43 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > > This only applies if you have switched to new style networking scripts, > > doesn't it? > > and that is why I wrote 'in network' But it's only half of the truth. Editing /etc/conf.d/network doesn't have any effect unless you also drop the old init scripts (net.*) and use the new one (network). Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 21:29:24 schrieb covici: > What are new style networking scripts -- which package is that. The > /etc/conf.d/net.example seems not to have changed since May. The ones that come with newer versions of openrc. If you decide to use them, your configuration now goes into network, but you also have to use the corresponding init script. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} app to create DVD image?
Am 26.10.2009 21:17, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: > On 10/26/2009 10:05 PM, Grant wrote: >> Does anyone know of an app that will create a DVD image that can be >> burned to a DVD for playback on a regular home DVD player? I was >> using dvdstyler but it depends on xine-ui which doesn't compile >> against xine-lib-1.2 which I need. >> >> - Grant > > K3b should do it. At least I see a "New Video DVD Project" option. > Never tried it though. Note that I'm using the live ebuild (-r1) > from the kde-testing overlay, so not sure if this supported with older > K3b versions. "New Video DVD Project" is only a shortcut to create a data DVD with the two folders VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS. It also checks if all needed files are there to form a valid video-DVD. But it can't author a DVD, only burn the pre-authored files to disk/image. Greetings Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} app to create DVD image?
>> Does anyone know of an app that will create a DVD image that can be >> burned to a DVD for playback on a regular home DVD player? > > > media-video/devede > > http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html > > I've used it on oBSD and like it. WOW. Great program! One good tip deserves another so I highly recommend the movie "The Beautiful Truth". I wanted an app like this so I can burn copies of that movie for everyone I know. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
On Montag 26 Oktober 2009, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 20:06:29 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > > in network: > > > > ifconfig_eth0="67.62.15.196 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > defaultroute="67.62.15.1" > > This only applies if you have switched to new style networking scripts, > doesn't it? > > Bye... > > Dirk > and that is why I wrote 'in network'
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} app to create DVD image?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Grant wrote: > Does anyone know of an app that will create a DVD image that can be > burned to a DVD for playback on a regular home DVD player? I was > using dvdstyler but it depends on xine-ui which doesn't compile > against xine-lib-1.2 which I need. The package media-video/tovid has a series of scripts for converting video, DVD menus, burning the DVD image etc. See http://tovid.org/ for more details.
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 20:06:29 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > > in network: > > > > ifconfig_eth0="67.62.15.196 netmask 255.255.255.0" > > defaultroute="67.62.15.1" > > This only applies if you have switched to new style networking scripts, > doesn't it? What are new style networking scripts -- which package is that. The /etc/conf.d/net.example seems not to have changed since May. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} app to create DVD image?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Grant wrote: > Does anyone know of an app that will create a DVD image that can be > burned to a DVD for playback on a regular home DVD player? media-video/devede http://www.rastersoft.com/programas/devede.html I've used it on oBSD and like it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
On Monday 26 October 2009 16:26:23 Mick wrote: > >> Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge > >> akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? > > > > No, at least mine doesn't here. > > > > I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like having > > trouble getting akonadi to work right, so I set all the kdepim apps to > > use the resource files directly in the fashion of KDE-3.5 > > Can you please share what you did on your system to make this happen > if you can remember? Over here kde-base/akonadi is dragged in by > kde-base/kdepim-meta and I haven't found a way to disable it. Every > time I fire up kmail it starts up and causes delay as it fails to > find/start mysqld. SystemSettings -> Resources Create the conventional addressbooks as files in ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 In the list of types of resources, there are Akondai related item, just don't use those, and kmail will use the file directly. > I have unmerged nepomuke and all related packages have been remerged > with -semantic-desktop set in /etc/make.conf: akonadi and nepomuk are not the same thing, not even remotely. akonadi is a backend store for pim data (mail, addresses, etc). It is application agnostic, so in theory at least Thunderbird, kmail and Evolution could all use akonadi to get to the same data. nepomuk and strigi are involved with desktop search and indexing all of your data. It is similar in principle to Beagle on Gnome (but with bigger design scope). There's no reason Nepomuk can't use the data presented by akonadi for it's indexing, but it's not a requirement - it can just as easily index conventional maildirs. You can't avoid having akonadi, nepomuk etc pulled in somehow. Just don't run them. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} app to create DVD image?
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 10/26/2009 10:05 PM, Grant wrote: >> Does anyone know of an app that will create a DVD image that can be >> burned to a DVD for playback on a regular home DVD player? I was >> using dvdstyler but it depends on xine-ui which doesn't compile >> against xine-lib-1.2 which I need. >> >> - Grant > > K3b should do it. At least I see a "New Video DVD Project" option. > Never tried it though. Note that I'm using the live ebuild (-r1) > from the kde-testing overlay, so not sure if this supported with older > K3b versions. > > > I have k3b-1.0.5 installed and that option is not there. Sounds really cool tho. Looking forward to that going stable. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 20:06:29 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > in network: > > ifconfig_eth0="67.62.15.196 netmask 255.255.255.0" > defaultroute="67.62.15.1" This only applies if you have switched to new style networking scripts, doesn't it? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} app to create DVD image?
On 10/26/2009 10:05 PM, Grant wrote: Does anyone know of an app that will create a DVD image that can be burned to a DVD for playback on a regular home DVD player? I was using dvdstyler but it depends on xine-ui which doesn't compile against xine-lib-1.2 which I need. - Grant K3b should do it. At least I see a "New Video DVD Project" option. Never tried it though. Note that I'm using the live ebuild (-r1) from the kde-testing overlay, so not sure if this supported with older K3b versions.
[gentoo-user] {OT} app to create DVD image?
Does anyone know of an app that will create a DVD image that can be burned to a DVD for playback on a regular home DVD player? I was using dvdstyler but it depends on xine-ui which doesn't compile against xine-lib-1.2 which I need. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lm_sensors much hotter in 2.6.31 than 2.6.28
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Grant wrote: >>> After upgrading from 2.6.28 to 2.6.31, I noticed my CPU temperatures >>> are reported a full 20C hotter. If I load the old kernel, the >>> reported temperatures drops back down to normal. Has anyone else seen >>> this? >> >> If you're using coretemp as sensor, the temps are always off (the coretemp >> sensor of Intel chips is not accurate, not by any stretch of the >> imagination.) It only reports the distance to the CPU's maximum thermal >> junction, which then the coretemp driver *tries* to translate into a >> temperature, but the result is wrong since the value reported by the CPU is >> not accurate to start with (it only gets accurate as you approach the max >> value). That maximum value is totally undocumented for desktop CPUs (the >> docs Intel provided recently are wrong.) >> >> You should use your mainboard's sensors instead for accurate values. > > I'm actually using k8temp. Do you think it is susceptible to the same > problems you're talking about? I also have an ACPI sensor available > named THRM. Should that one be more accurate? > > BTW, another system of mine (Dell laptop) only seems to have available > coretemp or an ACPI sensor which reports values like 46960 mWh. Am I > totally out of luck with that one? > > So, In the end, it's fairly impossible to monitor a CPU's actual > temperature in order to keep it below the published maximum? Hmm, the k8temp documentation seems to indicate that it should be actual temperature: "Temperatures are measured in degrees Celsius and measurement resolution is 1 degree C. It is expected that future CPU will have better resolution. The temperature is updated once a second. Valid temperatures are from -49 to 206 degrees C." Also, with lm_sensors not all sensors can be auto-detected. I had to manually specify mine (Abit uGuru3).
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lm_sensors much hotter in 2.6.31 than 2.6.28
On Montag 26 Oktober 2009, Grant wrote: > >> After upgrading from 2.6.28 to 2.6.31, I noticed my CPU temperatures > >> are reported a full 20C hotter. If I load the old kernel, the > >> reported temperatures drops back down to normal. Has anyone else seen > >> this? > > > > If you're using coretemp as sensor, the temps are always off (the > > coretemp sensor of Intel chips is not accurate, not by any stretch of the > > imagination.) It only reports the distance to the CPU's maximum thermal > > junction, which then the coretemp driver *tries* to translate into a > > temperature, but the result is wrong since the value reported by the CPU > > is not accurate to start with (it only gets accurate as you approach the > > max value). That maximum value is totally undocumented for desktop CPUs > > (the docs Intel provided recently are wrong.) > > > > You should use your mainboard's sensors instead for accurate values. > > I'm actually using k8temp. Do you think it is susceptible to the same > problems you're talking about? I also have an ACPI sensor available > named THRM. Should that one be more accurate? > > BTW, another system of mine (Dell laptop) only seems to have available > coretemp or an ACPI sensor which reports values like 46960 mWh. Am I > totally out of luck with that one? > > So, In the end, it's fairly impossible to monitor a CPU's actual > temperature in order to keep it below the published maximum? > > - Grant > there are no published maximums. Ruin a good evening going through CPU specs. And k8temp has the same problem. Or similar. Some CPUs report correct temps, other doesn't and some report some complete bogonium.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lm_sensors much hotter in 2.6.31 than 2.6.28
>> After upgrading from 2.6.28 to 2.6.31, I noticed my CPU temperatures >> are reported a full 20C hotter. If I load the old kernel, the >> reported temperatures drops back down to normal. Has anyone else seen >> this? > > If you're using coretemp as sensor, the temps are always off (the coretemp > sensor of Intel chips is not accurate, not by any stretch of the > imagination.) It only reports the distance to the CPU's maximum thermal > junction, which then the coretemp driver *tries* to translate into a > temperature, but the result is wrong since the value reported by the CPU is > not accurate to start with (it only gets accurate as you approach the max > value). That maximum value is totally undocumented for desktop CPUs (the > docs Intel provided recently are wrong.) > > You should use your mainboard's sensors instead for accurate values. I'm actually using k8temp. Do you think it is susceptible to the same problems you're talking about? I also have an ACPI sensor available named THRM. Should that one be more accurate? BTW, another system of mine (Dell laptop) only seems to have available coretemp or an ACPI sensor which reports values like 46960 mWh. Am I totally out of luck with that one? So, In the end, it's fairly impossible to monitor a CPU's actual temperature in order to keep it below the published maximum? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Montag 26 Oktober 2009, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Hi. I have a network cardwhich I am trying to start and it has worked > > before, but today when I tried to start the card, I get the following: > > RTNETLINK answers: file exists. I notice that its not building the > > default route. > > > > Here are its configs using baselayout2 and openrc 5.2-r1 > > > > config_eth1="67.62.15.196 netmask 255.255.255.0 " > > routes_eth1="default via 67.62.15.1" > > > > I had default gw in the routes, but it seemed to say that if mo module > > was specified iproute2 was used so I changed to default via, but no joy. > > > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > > > > > in network: > > > ifconfig_eth0="67.62.15.196 netmask 255.255.255.0" > defaultroute="67.62.15.1" No joy, it did not like those parameters at all. When I put ifconfig_eth1 it just said no config using dhcp, and when I changed it to config_eth1, it did not like defaultroute. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] Konqueror race condition when asked to email file
I selected a file and then clicked on Send File to email it. Konqueror froze every time (irrespective of the size of the file) and I had to kill it. This is what top showed: 7441 michael 20 0 66600 26m 18m R 39.3 4.2 0:16.06 kdeinit4: konqueror [kdeinit] --silent and this is relevant info from ps: 7206 ?Sl 0:52 kmail 7209 ?Ss 0:00 kdeinit4: kdeinit4 Running... 7211 ?S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: klauncher [kdeinit] --fd=8 7261 ?S 0:01 \_ kdeinit4: kio_imap4 [kdeinit] imap local:/tmp/ksocket-michael/klauncherMT7211.slave-socket local:/tmp/ 7273 ?S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-michael/klauncherMT7211.slave-socket local:/tmp/k 7339 ?S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_file [kdeinit] file local:/tmp/ksocket-michael/klauncherMT7211.slave-socket local:/tmp/k 7343 ?S 0:00 \_ kdeinit4: kio_trash [kdeinit] trash local:/tmp/ksocket-michael/klauncherMT7211.slave-socket local:/tmp 7441 ?D 0:32 \_ kdeinit4: konqueror [kdeinit] --silent Is this a bug? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
On Montag 26 Oktober 2009, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Hi. I have a network cardwhich I am trying to start and it has worked > before, but today when I tried to start the card, I get the following: > RTNETLINK answers: file exists. I notice that its not building the > default route. > > Here are its configs using baselayout2 and openrc 5.2-r1 > > config_eth1="67.62.15.196 netmask 255.255.255.0 " > routes_eth1="default via 67.62.15.1" > > I had default gw in the routes, but it seemed to say that if mo module > was specified iproute2 was used so I changed to default via, but no joy. > > Any assistance would be appreciated. > in network: ifconfig_eth0="67.62.15.196 netmask 255.255.255.0" defaultroute="67.62.15.1"
[gentoo-user] strange error when trying to start network
Hi. I have a network cardwhich I am trying to start and it has worked before, but today when I tried to start the card, I get the following: RTNETLINK answers: file exists. I notice that its not building the default route. Here are its configs using baselayout2 and openrc 5.2-r1 config_eth1="67.62.15.196 netmask 255.255.255.0 " routes_eth1="default via 67.62.15.1" I had default gw in the routes, but it seemed to say that if mo module was specified iproute2 was used so I changed to default via, but no joy. Any assistance would be appreciated. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash installation?
Nikos Chantziaras [09-10-26 19:04]: > On 10/26/2009 07:54 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > > ,,,after upgrading Firefox (->3.014) I was remembered > > to install the Adobe Flash plugin. > > > > I first tried to install it via emerge which fails -- > > Firefox does not "see" the installation (yes, JavaScript > > was enabled and NoScript instructed accordingly). > > > > From the Adobe website I downloaded the newest Flash plugin > > for Linux in tar.gz. > > Unpacking the archive only shed daylight on a library -- > > the installation, which was mentioned by Adobe was missing. > > > > So...how can I install Adobe Flashplayer or any other useable > > alternative? > > You emerge it. If it doesn't work, then it's not because it's designed > not to work, but because of some problem, obviously. In that case, you > might want to file a bug about it (after making sure you tried with a > clean firefox profile first). > > For reference, my system is AMD64, with > www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.5.3-r1, and > www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.0.32.18 [64bit multilib -32bit] and it works > without problems. > Hi Nikos, thanks a lot for your help! :) Have a nice evening! Best regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] ntp large drift (frequency error, frequent time resets)
Am Montag 26 Oktober 2009 16:23:11 schrieb Jil Larner: > Hi, > > Alexander Puchmayr a écrit : > > I think I have a problem with the system time, which is considerable too > > slow. It looses about 3 seconds every 20 minutes (i.e. ~10 secs/hour or 4 > > minutes per day). This seems to be too much for ntp to compensate. > > Is it physical or virtual environment? If virtual, clock issues are > common and, in case of VMWare, their tools handle them because ntp > cannot. Still, never use a virtual machine as a time reference. > > If it's physical, my two cents are clueless. Maybe you wish to reduce > the frequency of the clock; I know it's a kernel parameter, but don't > remember which one. > Its a physical environment, although the server has some KVMs running. Greetings, Alex
[gentoo-user] Re: Flash installation?
On 10/26/2009 07:54 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, ,,,after upgrading Firefox (->3.014) I was remembered to install the Adobe Flash plugin. I first tried to install it via emerge which fails -- Firefox does not "see" the installation (yes, JavaScript was enabled and NoScript instructed accordingly). From the Adobe website I downloaded the newest Flash plugin for Linux in tar.gz. Unpacking the archive only shed daylight on a library -- the installation, which was mentioned by Adobe was missing. So...how can I install Adobe Flashplayer or any other useable alternative? You emerge it. If it doesn't work, then it's not because it's designed not to work, but because of some problem, obviously. In that case, you might want to file a bug about it (after making sure you tried with a clean firefox profile first). For reference, my system is AMD64, with www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.5.3-r1, and www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.0.32.18 [64bit multilib -32bit] and it works without problems.
[gentoo-user] Flash installation?
Hi, ,,,after upgrading Firefox (->3.014) I was remembered to install the Adobe Flash plugin. I first tried to install it via emerge which fails -- Firefox does not "see" the installation (yes, JavaScript was enabled and NoScript instructed accordingly). From the Adobe website I downloaded the newest Flash plugin for Linux in tar.gz. Unpacking the archive only shed daylight on a library -- the installation, which was mentioned by Adobe was missing. So...how can I install Adobe Flashplayer or any other useable alternative? Kind regards, mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
[gentoo-user] Re: What does the "sqlite" USE flag do in Firefox?
On 10/26/2009 06:30 PM, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Can someone enlighten me as to what exactly the "sqlite" USE flag does for xulrunner and firefox? AFAIK, it seems to make use of the system's sqlite instead of bundled sqlite. Which seems saner. But recently, the default in the ebuild seems to be -sqlite (preferring the bundled lib). Why? This is from the Changelog: [...] Damn, and I'm usually the first to point out to people that they should read the ChangeLogs :P Sorry for the noise.
[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome audio (mixer) question [SOLVED YET AGAIN]
On 26.10.2009 14:19, walt wrote: > You say you rebuilt world. Was gnome-media actually rebuild without > the pulseaudio Use flag? That's where gnome-volume-control comes > from, not from the panel applets package. Yes, I used the usual |emerge -vpDNu world| and that did remerge gnome-media. > BTW, you can also do nicely without the esd USE flag and esound also, > but you'll need to revdep-rebuild after because lots of packages will > break (but they all still work perfectly after the rebuild.) Interesting, nice tip. I just finished getting rid of it. It was a bit of a mess because revdep-rebuild didn't discover a "-lesd" in libgoffice-0.6.la and hence gnumeric failed to emerge until I finally removed that by hand. But it's great to have one dependency less. And sound still seems to work. :-) Cheers, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] What does the "sqlite" USE flag do in Firefox?
On Monday 26 October 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Can someone enlighten me as to what exactly the "sqlite" USE flag does > for xulrunner and firefox? AFAIK, it seems to make use of the system's > sqlite instead of bundled sqlite. Which seems saner. But recently, the > default in the ebuild seems to be -sqlite (preferring the bundled lib). > > Why? This is from the Changelog: 20 Jun 2008; Raúl Porcel -mozilla-firefox-3.0.ebuild, +mozilla-firefox-3.0-r1.ebuild: Don't use external sqlite, since it seems to give some problems, bug #228305, and fix bindist icon, bug #228317 and, more recently, 25 Oct 2009; Jory A. Pratt +mozilla-firefox-3.5.3-r1.ebuild: remove iceweasel support in favor of icecat, do not build sqlite system support if disabled in xulrunner 30 Aug 2009; Jory A. Pratt -mozilla-firefox-3.5.2-r1.ebuild, +mozilla-firefox-3.5.2-r2.ebuild: drop system sqlite support in 3.5.x until segv fixed.
Re: [gentoo-user] What does the "sqlite" USE flag do in Firefox?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Can someone enlighten me as to what exactly the "sqlite" USE flag does for > xulrunner and firefox? AFAIK, it seems to make use of the system's sqlite > instead of bundled sqlite. Which seems saner. But recently, the default in > the ebuild seems to be -sqlite (preferring the bundled lib). > > Why? >From looking at the Changelog it appears there have been issues in the past when using external sqlite (there are some bug numbers mentioned). It appears the sqlite USE flag was just added in the 3.5.3-r1 ebuild.
[gentoo-user] What does the "sqlite" USE flag do in Firefox?
Can someone enlighten me as to what exactly the "sqlite" USE flag does for xulrunner and firefox? AFAIK, it seems to make use of the system's sqlite instead of bundled sqlite. Which seems saner. But recently, the default in the ebuild seems to be -sqlite (preferring the bundled lib). Why?
Re: [gentoo-user] ntp large drift (frequency error, frequent time resets)
Hi, Alexander Puchmayr a écrit : > I think I have a problem with the system time, which is considerable too > slow. > It looses about 3 seconds every 20 minutes (i.e. ~10 secs/hour or 4 minutes > per day). This seems to be too much for ntp to compensate. Is it physical or virtual environment? If virtual, clock issues are common and, in case of VMWare, their tools handle them because ntp cannot. Still, never use a virtual machine as a time reference. If it's physical, my two cents are clueless. Maybe you wish to reduce the frequency of the clock; I know it's a kernel parameter, but don't remember which one. Best regards, Jil
[gentoo-user] Re: lm_sensors much hotter in 2.6.31 than 2.6.28
On 10/25/2009 11:37 PM, Grant wrote: After upgrading from 2.6.28 to 2.6.31, I noticed my CPU temperatures are reported a full 20C hotter. If I load the old kernel, the reported temperatures drops back down to normal. Has anyone else seen this? If you're using coretemp as sensor, the temps are always off (the coretemp sensor of Intel chips is not accurate, not by any stretch of the imagination.) It only reports the distance to the CPU's maximum thermal junction, which then the coretemp driver *tries* to translate into a temperature, but the result is wrong since the value reported by the CPU is not accurate to start with (it only gets accurate as you approach the max value). That maximum value is totally undocumented for desktop CPUs (the docs Intel provided recently are wrong.) You should use your mainboard's sensors instead for accurate values.
[gentoo-user] ntp large drift (frequency error, frequent time resets)
Hi there! I think I have a problem with the system time, which is considerable too slow. It looses about 3 seconds every 20 minutes (i.e. ~10 secs/hour or 4 minutes per day). This seems to be too much for ntp to compensate. When I start ntp, I get frequent "time reset" messages in the log: 2009-10-25T03:38:35.738758+01:00 poseidon ntpd[5227]: synchronized to 131.130.251.107, stratum 1 2009-10-25T03:47:11.691165+01:00 poseidon ntpd[5227]: time reset +2.952038 s 2009-10-25T03:51:15.669040+01:00 poseidon ntpd[5227]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10 2009-10-25T03:51:41.690598+01:00 poseidon ntpd[5227]: synchronized to 131.130.251.107, stratum 1 2009-10-25T04:06:49.633882+01:00 poseidon ntpd[5227]: time reset +2.943313 s 2009-10-25T04:10:14.612358+01:00 poseidon ntpd[5227]: synchronized to LOCAL(0), stratum 10 2009-10-25T04:11:20.612348+01:00 poseidon ntpd[5227]: synchronized to 131.130.251.107, stratum 1 I've also tried to start ntpd with "--slew" option, which results in 2009-10-26T08:36:20.171483+01:00 poseidon ntpd[21666]: frequency error 733 PPM exceeds tolerance 500 PPM 2009-10-26T08:40:25.167171+01:00 poseidon ntpd[21666]: frequency error 737 PPM exceeds tolerance 500 PPM 2009-10-26T08:47:05.169388+01:00 poseidon ntpd[21666]: synchronized to 78.41.115.216, stratum 2 2009-10-26T08:47:05.169492+01:00 poseidon ntpd[21666]: frequency error 740 PPM exceeds tolerance 500 PPM 2009-10-26T08:47:30.168263+01:00 poseidon ntpd[21666]: frequency error 740 PPM exceeds tolerance 500 PPM 2009-10-26T08:50:42.168643+01:00 poseidon ntpd[21666]: frequency error 742 PPM exceeds tolerance 500 PPM 2009-10-26T08:58:09.172397+01:00 poseidon ntpd[21666]: synchronized to 80.64.132.152, stratum 2 ... The next thing I've tried is to change the internal clocksource. The original setting was cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource hpet I've changed it to "acpi_pm" using echo "acpi_pm" >/sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource but this doesn't seem to have any effect on the drift. I'd like to use this machine as master time server for my local network, but this is useless with such problems. Thanks in advance for any suggestions Alex ps: ntp.conf contains (comments stripped) server pool.ntp.org server 0.gentoo.pool.ntp.org server 1.gentoo.pool.ntp.org server 2.gentoo.pool.ntp.org server 3.gentoo.pool.ntp.org driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift restrict default nomodify nopeer restrict 127.0.0.1 restrict 192.168.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 nomodify nopeer notrap
Fwd: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?
2009/10/25 Alan McKinnon : > On Sunday 25 October 2009 22:19:11 Mick wrote: > >> # emerge -uatDv world >> >> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: >> >> Calculating dependencies... done! >> [nomerge ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1 USE="(-kdeprefix)" >> [ebuild N ] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 USE="(-aqua) -debug (-kdeprefix) - >> semantic-desktop" 0 kB > > Yes, you can't avoid having at least akonadi-server merged with kmail, it's a > hard dep on kdepimlibs: > > $ equery depends akonadi-server > * Searching for akonadi-server ... > kde-base/akonadi-4.3.2 (>=app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.1) > kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.3.2 (>=app-office/akonadi-server-1.2.0) > > >> Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge >> akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? > > No, at least mine doesn't here. > > I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like having > trouble getting akonadi to work right, so I set all the kdepim apps to use the > resource files directly in the fashion of KDE-3.5 Can you please share what you did on your system to make this happen if you can remember? Over here kde-base/akonadi is dragged in by kde-base/kdepim-meta and I haven't found a way to disable it. Every time I fire up kmail it starts up and causes delay as it fails to find/start mysqld. I have unmerged nepomuke and all related packages have been remerged with -semantic-desktop set in /etc/make.conf: # euse -I semantic-desktop global use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) [- c ] semantic-desktop - Cross-KDE support for semantic search and information retrieval Installed packages matching this USE flag: kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 kde-base/dolphin-4.3.1-r1 kde-base/gwenview-4.3.1 kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.1 kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.1-r2 kde-base/kget-4.3.1 kde-base/kmail-4.3.1-r1 kde-base/pykde4-4.3.1 local use flags (searching: semantic-desktop) [- c ] semantic-desktop (kde-base/dolphin): Semantic desktop allows for storage of digital information and its metadata to allow the user to express his personal mental models, making all information become intuitively accessible. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] lm_sensors much hotter in 2.6.31 than 2.6.28
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Grant wrote: > After upgrading from 2.6.28 to 2.6.31, I noticed my CPU temperatures > are reported a full 20C hotter. If I load the old kernel, the > reported temperatures drops back down to normal. Has anyone else seen > this? If you are using the "coretemp" sensor module, the logic by which it reports "temperature" changed somewhere in the last few kernels. Also, in many (most?) cases it doesn't report an actual temperature at all but a relative one on a scale from 0-100 based on some operating range defined by Intel? or somebody...
[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome audio (mixer) question [SOLVED YET AGAIN]
On 10/26/2009 02:10 AM, Peter Weilbacher wrote: > On 25.10.2009 18:07, walt wrote: >> It seems that pulseaudio has its own mixer control (not >> included in gentoo's pulseaudio package) so maybe it does >> make sense to remove that function from gnome's volume >> control applet. > > Looking at the pulseaudio documentation it seems to be a very > well-designed system. But there are so many components to it that I > found it very confusing to configure. In fact, after fiddling around > with it for two days, I gave up on that, removed USE=pulseaudio > again, and rebuilt world. > Now I only have the problem that I cannot start the GNOME "Volume > Control" applet any more. When I try I get > >Some panel items are no longer available >One or more panel items (also referred to as applets) are >no longer available in the GNOME desktop. > >These items will now be removed from your configuration: > • Volume Control You say you rebuilt world. Was gnome-media actually rebuild without the pulseaudio Use flag? That's where gnome-volume-control comes from, not from the panel applets package. BTW, you can also do nicely without the esd USE flag and esound also, but you'll need to revdep-rebuild after because lots of packages will break (but they all still work perfectly after the rebuild.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncle: qt-*:4 dependencies/blocks preventing world update
I think this problem has now gone away on my machine. I cannot be sure what it was that helped. I removed all qt-* packages, and some of the problematic packages mentioned as depending on the earlier versions. After running # emerge -utv world, I noted some dependencies, and may have removed one or two. Then I ran the install. After a couple of interations, all *seems* to be well. Thank you for the advice, Alan Davis
[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome audio (mixer) question [SOLVED YET AGAIN]
On 25.10.2009 18:07, walt wrote: > On 10/25/2009 08:19 AM, walt wrote: > >> Merging gnome-media with the pulseaudio USE flag breaks >> gnome-volume-control most horribly IMO, but OTOH I don't >> understand pulseaudio, so maybe I'm wrong. > > I found the gnome 2.26 upgrade guide, which points to the > pulseaudio documentation. > > It seems that pulseaudio has its own mixer control (not > included in gentoo's pulseaudio package) so maybe it does > make sense to remove that function from gnome's volume > control applet. Looking at the pulseaudio documentation it seems to be a very well-designed system. But there are so many components to it that I found it very confusing to configure. In fact, after fiddling around with it for two days, I gave up on that, removed USE=pulseaudio again, and rebuilt world. Now I only have the problem that I cannot start the GNOME "Volume Control" applet any more. When I try I get Some panel items are no longer available One or more panel items (also referred to as applets) are no longer available in the GNOME desktop. These items will now be removed from your configuration: • Volume Control You will not receive this message again. so I have to go to the full mixer in the menu instead. My problem was that I never got any sound out of it, with any application. And I lost all but one mixer slider. With the alsa-based backend, my system has the peculiarity that it starts up with "Front" and "Headphone" levels at 100% but muted and Master at 100% (unmuted), I always have to unmute "Front" before I want any sound. With pulseaudio active, all but the "Master" slider were gone, so I didn't have any way to influence the levels on the other components. At least that's what I am thinking might have been going on, but maybe I'm wrong. Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel panic -- finding proper config diff
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:52:26 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: > > Could be over-zealous whittling. Why not use the Live DVD .config > > unchanged? > > I assumed there was no need for a 1001 modules for hardware i don't > have. That's a correct assumption. The assumption about which options you don't need may not have been so correct. It's safer to start with a bloated but working kernel and whittle it down gradually. -- Neil Bothwick Aibohphobia: an irrational fear of palindromes. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] X86 stable emerged a bunch of KDE 4 things. How to use them?
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:56:24 -0700, "Kevin O'Gorman" wrote: > Having just emerged what looked like a couple of hundred things, many of > them KDE-4 related, I'm surprised that on reboot I'm still running KDE 3.5. > Moreover, there's only /usr/kde/3.5, no 4*. The only change I noticed was > in the background of the login dialog. You will not see an /usr/kde/4.x unless you have USE=kdeprefix. Since 4.x, kde by default is installed on your regular system prefix, instead of creating his own. So your kde binaries will usually live in /usr/bin, and each component will go to the right place just like for any other package. > Should I just wait, or is there something I should be doing? I have no experience mixing branches of kde. As long as you have the 4.x version of kdebase-startkde you should have a way to start kde4, how to do it will depend no how do you start X. You seem to use kdm, I can't really help with that because I don't use a DM. If you use startx from command line it's just a matter of using the correct binary on your ~/.xinitrc, in this case /usr/bin/startkde if I am not mistaken. -- Jesús Guerrero
