Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
PartitionMagic is the best for this, but at $70 it is a bit pricey. There may be free programs to do this, but I have no experience with them. QTparted: open-source alternative to PQMagic, _and_ it's significantly faster (e.g. resizing a 40GB NTFS partition to 10GB with PQMagic took me an hour or two; with qtparted, it took about ten minutes) and less error-prone (e.g. I've had qtparted fail many times, but only once was it so catastrophic that I couldn't fix it easily; with PQMagic, if it failed, I knew I was screwed...). I've been using PartitionMagic since 4.x, and stumbled across QTparted after having PQMagic 8 consistently wipe my entire 120GB drive at startup - before I'd even done anything! The support folks didn't help at all on that one, so I gave up on PQMagic (although they did give me some help later that wasn't great, but got me on the right path to fixing the problem I was having). You can get a decent version of qtparted (assuming you don't care much for English grammar) with the current Knoppix - which is pretty much the only reason why I still use Knoppix. ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
--- A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: So there must be a problem w/ the Asus K8N-E(Sempron box) BIOS. I updated it using the tool that came w/ the support CD but it only made matters worse: Did you download the latest BIOS from Asus's site and use that? Yes! I imagine any CD included with a motherboard is old before it hits the shelves... So what? The tool will still work. Kindly read what I wrote! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: I imagine any CD included with a motherboard is old before it hits the shelves... So what? The tool will still work. Kindly read what I wrote! I *did* read what you wrote. My point was if there was an update on the CD it would be old. You wrote: As it happens, an attempt to update the BIOS on my Asus K8N-E-deluxe using the utility included in the mobo support CD, You did not write something like: As it happens, an attempt to update the BIOS (downloading the latest one from the Asus web site) on my K8N-E-deluxe using the utility included in the mobo support CD, Sorry to split fine hairs with an enormous axe but you might think about that before jumping on people trying to help. -- Aj. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
maxim wexler wrote: Maxim, if you want the system to boot from the hard disk, I really think you have no choice but to repartition and re-install the system, with boot as the first partition. On the Sempron there are two HDs, the 120G, pri-mast and a 3.5G(fat32) as a pri-slave. LBA is set to auto in the BIOS for both drives but it only appears on in the POST screen for the 3.5G. I put the 120G as pri-slave in the K6 box along w/ a 10G master(gentoo-2004.3) and it does come up as on for both of them albeit only 65G of the 120G available is reported, probably because of the more primitive(c.2000) BIOS. So there must be a problem w/ the Asus K8N-E(Sempron box) BIOS. I updated it using the tool that came w/ the support CD but it only made matters worse: Not only does LBA remain off for the 120G, XP Pro won't boot, even though the boot.ini console opens. I've contacted Asus but they haven't replied yet. I bought it two months ago; maybe they'll let me have a new one. If LBA were on that would solve my problem wouldn't it? Ok, I did some more checking and reading about the various interfaces for accessing disk drives. If you have some time, take a look at: http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/hist.html In ancient times, we were limited to ~512MB addressable through the BIOS int13h instructions, with 1024 cylinders, 16 heads, and 63 sectors/track. LBA translation got us to ~8.2GB addressable with 1024 cylinders, 255 heads, and 63 sectors/track. The limit with the int 13h extensions interface is some ridiculously large value... Of course I am ignoring pre-historic times when the disk geometry actually did reflect the physical number heads and cylinders in the drive. So basically, if the BIOS, disk, and controller all support Int13h extensions, and LBA mode is enabled, there should be no problem loading the stage2 or kernel from anywhere on that disk. So yes, I believe that if you can get LBA mode to be enabled, you should be able to boot. But getting to that point may involve rebuilding the system anyway. I found an interesting note in the user manual for the K8N-E. It says: oops, PDF is now corrupt...and ASUS's web site is way too damn slow for me to try and download it again...so I will paraphrase It said that LBA mode will be disabled if the disk was formatted without LBA being enabled. It was light on the details, but I assume that really means partitioned with 16 heads instead of 255. Now, the Asus brd does have raid capability. Would that be a way out of this morass? How does raid work? You can try plugging the disk into the controller, but ignore the RAID functionalities. This is usually called JBOD (just a bunch of disks) mode. But I think you still have the same fundamental problem...how to get LBA mode enabled. I've never used it before. Failing that is there a way to copy non-destructively the partition containing WinXP and move it up enough to make room for a boot partition at /dev/hda1? PartitionMagic is the best for this, but at $70 it is a bit pricey. There may be free programs to do this, but I have no experience with them. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: So there must be a problem w/ the Asus K8N-E(Sempron box) BIOS. I updated it using the tool that came w/ the support CD but it only made matters worse: Did you download the latest BIOS from Asus's site and use that? I imagine any CD included with a motherboard is old before it hits the shelves... -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: Now, the Asus brd does have raid capability. Would that be a way out of this morass? Its probably software RAID - you're better off using Linux's own software RAID. How does raid work? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:30:19 -0400 (EDT), A. Khattri wrote: You should leave /boot as an ext2 partition. My guess is that grub only understands ext2 file-systems so can't work with your boot partition. GRUB does understand ReiserFS, although it is a complete waste of space using Reiser on a /boot partition, the journal will take up more space than all your kernels. Look in /boot/grub to see the handlers for the various filesystems GRUB supports. -- Neil Bothwick I am Zaphod of Borg. Now, where's the coolest place to be assimilated... pgpipfYr4IfNw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
A. Khattri wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: This reminds me. When I installed 2005.0(sempron-box) I tried to mkreiserfs /dev/hda2, the boot partition, since that gave no problem in 2004.3(k6-box)but it gave me some sort of error, forget which, so I went for the default, or anyways, the suggestion in the manual, ext2, so maybe there is a problem with the fs. You should leave /boot as an ext2 partition. My guess is that grub only understands ext2 file-systems so can't work with your boot partition. No, it can understand reiserfs and xfs filesystems just fine. I've booted from both with the appropriate stage1.5. Plus we've also tried not using a stage1.5 to read the stage2 through the filesystem, loading the stage2 directly from the stage1 block map, without success. Folks, the problem here is that the /boot partition is around 60GB (!!) away from the start of the disk, and grub cannot read those sectors through Maxim's BIOS. That is what those Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS are telling us. Unless we can somehow change the BIOSs block addressing mechanism to allow him to read those sectors, there is not going to be any way to read the kernel from the disk. Maxim, if you want the system to boot from the hard disk, I really think you have no choice but to repartition and re-install the system, with boot as the first partition. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
By diverse means, we arrive at the same end. Holly Thanks, Holly. I remember thinking your suggestion too drastic to contemplate. Starting to look more reasonable now :o -mw Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Richard Fish wrote: No, it can understand reiserfs and xfs filesystems just fine. Actually, grub does have an issue with reiserfs. True, I had forgotten about that. Thanks for the correction. As already mentioned, using reiserfs on boot is a complete waste. Well, that depends on your viewpoint. The reason I have used reiserfs and xfs on /boot is because that is what all my other filesystems were formatted with. Using the same filesystem for /boot reduced the amount of thinking I had to do when configuring my kernel, initrd, and fstab. Besides, you can format it with --journal-size=513, and with a 1k block size that is only 513k...not exactly a huge waste of space. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
Went through the saved pile and found this: Try 1 (should bring up the boot menu): grub configfile (hd0,3)/grub/grub.conf grub configfile (hd0,1)/grub/grub.conf # /dev/hda2 Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS has this anything to do with LBA being off in POST -- it *is* set to [auto] in the BIOS? BTW, HD is listed in POST screen thus: Pri Master: Maxtor 4R12010 RAMBIUU0 Ultra DMA Mode -6 S.M.A.R.T Capable and Status OK Try 2 (locate the config file, use that if found. Replace X,X with the numbers reported by find): grub find /grub/grub.conf grub find /grub/grub.conf Error 15: File not found grub find /boot/grub/grub.conf Ditto grub kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz # /dev/hda2 grub boot Error 18 Let me know how it goes! Done! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
maxim wexler wrote: Went through the saved pile and found this: Try 1 (should bring up the boot menu): grub configfile (hd0,3)/grub/grub.conf grub configfile (hd0,1)/grub/grub.conf # /dev/hda2 Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS has this anything to do with LBA being off in POST -- it *is* set to [auto] in the BIOS? BTW, HD is listed in POST screen thus: Pri Master: Maxtor 4R12010 RAMBIUU0 Ultra DMA Mode -6 S.M.A.R.T Capable and Status OK Maybe if you turn on LBA it will help. It says here that grub can access the full disk with LBA: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Features.html You might need to use the --force-lba option: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/setup.html Try 2 (locate the config file, use that if found. Replace X,X with the numbers reported by find): grub find /grub/grub.conf grub find /grub/grub.conf Error 15: File not found grub find /boot/grub/grub.conf Ditto grub kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz # /dev/hda2 grub boot Error 18 Let me know how it goes! Done! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
maxim wexler wrote: grub configfile (hd0,1)/grub/grub.conf # /dev/hda2 Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS has this anything to do with LBA being off in POST -- it *is* set to [auto] in the BIOS? BTW, HD is listed in POST screen thus: Pri Master: Maxtor 4R12010 RAMBIUU0 Ultra DMA Mode -6 S.M.A.R.T Capable and Status OK Yep. Can you force LBA on? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
Yep. Can you force LBA on? Used grub-install --force-lba /dev/hda. After a bunch of fd0 I/O errors(?) it said everything was fine, no errors found. Then I rebooted, got: GRUB Loading stage1.5 GRUB loading, please wait... Error 17 Installing to /dev/hda2, the gentoo boot part, gave same result Well, at least now it gives me an error num. Yes, using the latest 0.96 grub. Funny, have an older 3.5G HD formatted fat32 as pri. slave and in the POST screen LBA is listed as On for it. Whereas the 120G Maxtor is brand new. __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
-- it *is* set to [auto] in the BIOS? BTW, HD is Maybe if you turn on LBA it will help. It says here that grub can access the full disk with LBA: see above. In the BIOS there are two choices, auto and disabled. If there's another way to turn LBA on, I'm all ears! You might need to use the --force-lba option: been there, done that __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
Error 17 Installing to /dev/hda2, the gentoo boot part, gave same result Well, at least now it gives me an error num. ...answering himself 17 : Cannot mount selected partition This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB. This reminds me. When I installed 2005.0(sempron-box) I tried to mkreiserfs /dev/hda2, the boot partition, since that gave no problem in 2004.3(k6-box)but it gave me some sort of error, forget which, so I went for the default, or anyways, the suggestion in the manual, ext2, so maybe there is a problem with the fs. Perhaps if I just re-formatted /boot and re-emerge grub. Or, at least check the fs. Come to think about it, the sempron seems to find it easier reading the floppy than the hd. What d'ya think people? And what *was* that mysterious error all about anyway? Here's another: if /dev/hda2 *is* corrupt, how comes it that it can be read and written to without error? Discuss :) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
On 6/24/05, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Error 17 Installing to /dev/hda2, the gentoo boot part, gave same result Well, at least now it gives me an error num. ...answering himself 17 : Cannot mount selected partition This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB. This reminds me. When I installed 2005.0(sempron-box) I tried to mkreiserfs /dev/hda2, the boot partition, since that gave no problem in 2004.3(k6-box)but it gave me some sort of error, forget which, so I went for the default, or anyways, the suggestion in the manual, ext2, so maybe there is a problem with the fs. Perhaps if I just re-formatted /boot and re-emerge grub. Or, at least check the fs. Come to think about it, the sempron seems to find it easier reading the floppy than the hd. What d'ya think people? And what *was* that mysterious error all about anyway? Here's another: if /dev/hda2 *is* corrupt, how comes it that it can be read and written to without error? Discuss :) I would only offer that Error 17 is Error 17. It couldn't mount the partition. Any number of possible reasons for that. I once had a problem somewhat like you are suffering through because I had tried to install grub, made some mistake I never understood (it was only my second Gentoo machine) and then installed Gentoo a second time. The outcome of that problem was that the BIOS was jumping to the wrong partition and then going haywire. I kept looking at all the config files and thought everything was right but grub wasn't finding them. That one was only fixed by completely removing all partitions from the drive and starting over. If you were to consider this as an option then I'd turn the Gentoo install upside down and, using the 2005.0 Universal CD, install grub first - before the main install - just as a test. Get it on the eventual boot partition and throw any old kernel on there and see what happens. Use the manual grub install - it's only 3 instructions and one is quit. Couldn't be easier. If grub manages to get the boot started then there's no major incompatibility here and you're just dealing with some mistake that may never be understood, as in my case. If it won't boot (Error 17 again) then it's good data as you'll likely look for a different solution. I've also suffered though one grub problem wherein grub said the drive was hd0 but it ended up being /dev/hde. However that problem at least allowed the machine to start booting and then not find the drive after the kernel was loaded. I think that's not the problem you're having. Also, I'm sorry, but I didn't follow the first part of this thread. If you want to contact me off-line to discuss any of the machine's configuration please feel free to not waste everyone elses bandwidth. cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote: This reminds me. When I installed 2005.0(sempron-box) I tried to mkreiserfs /dev/hda2, the boot partition, since that gave no problem in 2004.3(k6-box)but it gave me some sort of error, forget which, so I went for the default, or anyways, the suggestion in the manual, ext2, so maybe there is a problem with the fs. You should leave /boot as an ext2 partition. My guess is that grub only understands ext2 file-systems so can't work with your boot partition. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update
maxim wexler schreef: Error 17 Installing to /dev/hda2, the gentoo boot part, gave same result Well, at least now it gives me an error num. ...answering himself 17 : Cannot mount selected partition This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB. This reminds me. When I installed 2005.0(sempron-box) I tried to mkreiserfs /dev/hda2, the boot partition, since that gave no problem in 2004.3(k6-box)but it gave me some sort of error, forget which, so I went for the default, or anyways, the suggestion in the manual, ext2, so maybe there is a problem with the fs. Perhaps if I just re-formatted /boot and re-emerge grub. Or, at least check the fs. Come to think about it, the sempron seems to find it easier reading the floppy than the hd. What d'ya think people? And what *was* that mysterious error all about anyway? Here's another: if /dev/hda2 *is* corrupt, how comes it that it can be read and written to without error? Discuss :) Now, this, I *know* I said like ages ago (June 1st, actually) Holly Bostick schreef: maxim wexler schreef: And which OS are you choosing from the menu again, maxim (assuming you get to a menu)? Or does this affect all OSes in your menu? no choice. After grub-install I get the Grub loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... message(white text,black bg). To get back to Macroshaft I boot into a Win98 CD and run fdisk /mbr Ok, now I've got it. The menu doesn't load at all. But your previous post as to formatting the /boot partition made me think of something I had problems like that some time ago, back when I first installed my first Gentoo. Basically what had happened was I got weird and unattributable errors due to my filesystem not being correctly formatted. It was supposed to be formatted, and files were installed to it and everything, but filesizes were being reported differently by different tools and things just didn't work properly. What I wound up doing was using qtparted to delete the filesystem and reformat it. Once the filesystem on the disk was the same as the filesystem that the disk thought it had, everything worked fine. Now, I seem to recall having heard that it is possible to delete and reformat a filesystem without deleting the partition (or damaging the files thereon), but I didn't know enough at the time to do that, so I just deleted the entire partition and recreated it. Since this is /boot, it won't be a tragedy to delete the partition, recreate, format it as ext2 from the start and reinstall grub. But maybe there's a way that you can just reformat the existing partition (again) as ext2, so that it takes. You might still have to reinstall grub anyway, however at this point that seems like the least of your worries :-) . By diverse means, we arrive at the same end. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: Or maybe the selected shell didn't initialize, including grub's if this is at that point? Then I realised the one word GRUB appearing in upper left corner of the screen is just a truncated version of the above. Ah, ok, I see now. It looks like the stage1 loader in the MBR prints out the 'GRUB ' part of the message before it starts probing the disk looking for the stage1.5 or stage2 loader. The rest of that line is supposed to be filled in by the stage1.5/stage2. So, apparently we have the same basic problem...neither stage1 nor stage1.5 can pull your stage2 file in. I was really, really, really hoping that was a 'grub ' prompt! :-( So it look like we have to go back to trying to get the CD booting to work. Copy the /lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito to the boot/grub directory on the ISO image, re-run the mkisofs command we used before, and burn the resulting ISO to a CD. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
So it look like we have to go back to trying to get the CD booting to work. Copy the /lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito to the boot/grub directory on the ISO image, re-run the mkisofs command we used before, and burn the resulting ISO to a CD. Before that. I used emerge --buildpkgonly from k6/gentoo to get a binary of pppconfig so now I can use pon/poff from my sempron/gentoo2005.0 box. I'm hoping that will give me some sort of advantage to solving this boot problem over moving files between machines but I don't know what that might be. Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: Is /etc/make.profile correct? It should be symbolic link to ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 It is but it links to 2004.3, which is what I used on the k6. The sempron uses 2005.0 If the directory /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 exists, you can change the symlink to point to that, run emerge --sync, and that should get your portage tree up to date on the k6. at that grub prompt (the one you get from booting): But it's a dead console. The caps lock key and the num lock key turn the leds on and off but typing letters does nothing. I've been trying to come up with a reasonable explanation for this behavior. Assuming that you can enter the BIOS setup screens with this keyboard, I have no answer to why this wouldn't work. Is this a USB keyboard by chance? If so, can you try a PS/2 keyboard and see if you get different results? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Richard Fish schreef: maxim wexler wrote: But it's a dead console. The caps lock key and the num lock key turn the leds on and off but typing letters does nothing. I've been trying to come up with a reasonable explanation for this behavior. OK, it may not be a reasonable explanation, but it does make 'sense'-- is it possible that the text color is the same as the background color, so that letters are being typed, but you simply don't *see* them? I don't have the faintest clue how one would manage this, but the thing is, if hitting CapsLock and NumLock has visible results, *the keyboard is working*, afaik. So presumably typing letters is working as well. Just an idea, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
I've been trying to come up with a reasonable explanation for this behavior. Assuming that you can enter the BIOS somewhere in the code there must be a line that says print the letters G-R-U-B to a console then stop. setup screens with this keyboard, I have no answer to why this wouldn't work. Is this a USB keyboard by chance? ps/2 Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
OK, it may not be a reasonable explanation, but it does make 'sense'-- is it possible that the text color is the same as the background color, so that letters are being typed, but you simply don't *see* them? I LOL Yeah, it's invisible ascii! You have to heat the screen with a blow-dryer to see it! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
/usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 exists, you can change the symlink to point to that, run emerge --sync, and that should get your portage tree up to date on the k6. Done. Now it's !!! ARCH is not set ... are you missing the /etc/make.profile symlink? !!! Is the symlink correct? Is your portage tree complete? No, yes and How do I tell? I ran emerge --sync until it said it was done, after about two hrs, then it started up at another address and on different hdware. I hit ctrl-c. Should I have just let it continue? __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Thanks for hanging in there with me, Richard Anyway, back to grub. 2 things. upgrade to 0.96, repeat If I could setup ppp on the sempron box it would be much simpler. But pppconfig is not on the 2005.0 pkg CD. I managed to set it up on the k6(2004.3)box alright and it sure came in handy. IIRC I simply downloaded the files emerge called for on another machine. Then I used it to wget the tarball that emerge -av, on the sempron box, says it needs, pppconfig-2.3.9, and copied it to a floppy. I put that in /usr/portage/distfiles on the sempron box but emerge continues to ask for it. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote:
Thanks for hanging in there with me, Richard
No problem.
Anyway, back to grub. 2 things.
upgrade to 0.96, repeat
machine. Then I used it to wget the tarball that
emerge -av, on the sempron box, says it needs,
pppconfig-2.3.9, and copied it to a floppy. I put that
in /usr/portage/distfiles on the sempron box but
emerge continues to ask for it.
Here is a function to help with this. It will only show you the things
that you don't already have in distfiles, so it will be best to run on
the sempron.
mw_what_dist() {
emerge -Dvp --fetchonly $@ 21 \
| grep / \
| awk '{ print $1 }' \
| while read line; do
bn=`basename $line`
test -f /usr/portage/distfiles/$bn || echo $line
done
}
You can copy-n-paste that to your .bashrc then . ~/.bashrc and you
will have the mw_what_dist function. When I run it on pppconfig, I get:
carcharias ~ # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=-~x86 mw_what_dist pppconfig
http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/ppp-2.4.2.tar.gz
http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/ppp-2.4.2-patches-20050514.tar.gz
http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo/distfiles/pppconfig_2.3.11.tar.gz
Unfortunately, 2.3.9 doesn't show up in portage anymore, so I can't show
you that directly!
More to the point of getting grub, you could also build a binary package
of grub on the other system, and transfer that over via floppy. The
binary package for grub looks like it would be about ~440k. Don't worry
about CFLAGS not matching, they get removed by the grub ebuild in any case.
emerge --buildpkgonly --oneshot grub should do for the build, which
will end up creating a archive in /usr/portage/packages. Move it to the
same location on the sempron, and use emerge --usepkgonly to install it.
Although, you may be in desperate need of an emerge --sync, so you may
have to fight with pppconfig for a little while.
-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
emerge --buildpkgonly --oneshot grub should do for well, it built the .94 version, the one I already have. All the while interspersing yellow-flagged warnings about upgrading to a version that uses tool-chain functions. Is that the one I need? How do I tell it to build the .96? I've run merge --sync a couple of times for many hours. According to $ls -l /usr/portage/sys-boot/files was updated but only w/ grub-0.95-20040823. So why didn't it build .95? Is it possible to sync just certain pkges. BTW, the suggestion to mv -v ../e2fs_stage1_5 got me to a console with the lone word GRUB in one corner then nothing. __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: well, it built the .94 version, the one I already have. All the while interspersing yellow-flagged warnings about upgrading to a version that uses tool-chain functions. Is that the one I need? How do I tell it to build the .96? I've run merge --sync a couple of times for many hours. According to $ls -l /usr/portage/sys-boot/files was updated but only w/ grub-0.95-20040823. So why didn't it build .95? I assume you meant the directory ls -l /usr/portage/sys-boot/grub? Well, the 0.95-20040823 ebuild is masked ~x86 (testing). But you should also have 0.96, 0.96-r1, and 0.96-r2, and 0.96-r1 is marked stable. Do you get a different result if you do: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge --buildpkgonly --pretend grub Is /etc/make.profile correct? It should be symbolic link to ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.0 BTW, the suggestion to mv -v ../e2fs_stage1_5 got me to a console with the lone word GRUB in one corner then nothing. That is very, very good news!! That means the stage2 loaded, but it didn't find your config file. Booting should work. Try the following at that grub prompt (the one you get from booting): Try 1 (should bring up the boot menu): grub configfile (hd0,3)/grub/grub.conf Try 2 (locate the config file, use that if found. Replace X,X with the numbers reported by find): grub find /grub/grub.conf grub (hdX,X)/grub/grub.conf Try 3 (booting without a menu, use the actual name of your kernel file instead of vmlinuz) grub kernel (hd0,3)/vmlinuz grub boot Let me know how it goes! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: Arrrgh, everytime I hit forward-slash or an apostrophe the find dialogue opens and Iapostrophem knocked out of this text window. Firefox v.1.0.4 That's not normal. If this is on Linux, possibly an extension you have installed is a problem, or there is some breakage in your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file? Something like setting 'vi' mode for all gtk text entry widgets might do this to you... Anyway, back to grub. 2 things. 1. First, looking through the grub sources, I found the following in the NEWS file: - New in 0.95 - 2004-06-13: * Add support for ReiserFS 3. * Fix support for FreeBSD 5. * Support ATARAID for Linux in the grub shell and grub-install. * Add CDROM support for El Torito with no emulation mode. You can use (cd) as a CDROM drive in the config file. * Option --no-mem-option is implied for Linux 2.4.18 and newer. * Add support for UFS2. - So, the 'no emulation' mode of booting from CD was added in 0.95. I seem to remember you were running 0.94? If so, upgrade to 0.96, repeat the steps to create the ISO, and that should fix the problem. Most important is don't forget to update the boot/grub/stage2_eltorito file with the one in the /lib/grub/i386-pc directory. At this point, I must apologize. Someone recommended a few hundred messages ago (it seems) to download grub directly from gnu.org and compile it directly. Although there is nothing wrong with the ebuild for 0.96, that would have avoided this particular problem. 2. If you followed the thread Reboot when GRUB starts, you might have noticed a workaround that I don't think we tried for booting off the hard disk. That is to rename the /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 file, and then to re-run the grub setup commands. That will cause block mapping of the stage2 file in the stage1, and might be an effective workaround for your system. IIRC, your boot is /dev/hda4, so that would be: # mv -v /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5.sav # grub grub root (hd0,3) ... grub setup (hd0) ... grub quit The output of setup should show that the e2fs_stage1_5 file doesn't exist, but the install line should still end with succeeded. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
If you have a FAT partition for sharing files between Linux and XP, you Done. Same result. Perhaps the call to mkisofs was at fault. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: If you have a FAT partition for sharing files between Linux and XP, you Done. Same result. Perhaps the call to mkisofs was at fault. What happens if you try to mount it under Linux or view it under Windows? Do you see the files? You can double check the ISO by doing: # mount -o loop cdboot.iso /mnt/cdrom And then compare the files to those on your /boot partition. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
What happens if you try to mount it under Linux or view it under Windows? Do you see the files? You can double check the ISO by doing: # mount -o loop cdboot.iso /mnt/cdrom And then compare the files to those on your /boot partition. hmmm, livecd / # mount -o loop cdboot.iso /cdrom cdboot.iso: Mo such file or directory but, livecd / # ls -l /cdrom total 4 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 2048 Jun 6 14:23 boot -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2048 Jun 9 09:26 boot.catalog livecd / # ls -l /cdrom/boot total 1538 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root2048 Jun 6 14:29 grub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1572135 Jun 6 14:23 vmlinuz livecd / # ls -l /cdrom/boot/grub total 168 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root174 Jun 7 08:05 menu.lst -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33856 Jun 6 14:27 splash.xpm.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 137004 Jun 6 14:26 stage2_eltorito and, livecd / # ls -l /tmp total 2074 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 Jun 7 20:01 cdboot -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2113536 Jun 9 09:26 cdboot.iso -rwxr--r-- 1 root root2211 May 26 14:05 grub-2005.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 375 May 26 14:21 grub-setup livecd / # ls -l /tmp/cdboot total 0 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 96 Jun 6 14:23 boot livecd / # ls -l /tmp/cdboot/boot total 1538 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 136 Jun 6 14:29 grub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1572135 Jun 6 14:23 vmlinuz livecd / # ls /tmp/cdboot/boot/grub menu.list splash.xpm.gz stage2_eltorito As for /boot, there's no(well, very little) comparison at all. Besides I thought all I needed was the stuff we put under /tmp. Arrrgh, everytime I hit forward-slash or an apostrophe the find dialogue opens and Iapostrophem knocked out of this text window. Firefox v.1.0.4 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:27:05 +0200, Richard Fish wrote: If so, then we are ready to proceed with burning. Here is the command that I use: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree file.iso If your drive doesn't support burnfree, just take out the whole driveropt=burnfree part. You can put a lot of this into /etc/defaults/cdrecord, to save (mis) typing it every time. But, something just occurred to medoes this system have 2 CD burners, or a burner and a reader? If not, you will have much trouble to burn a CD while running off the live cd. There is a boot option to copy the contents of the live CD to a RAMdisk, something like docache, which allows you to eject the CD after booting. It also makes working from the live CD a lot faster, eliminating those annoying delays as it searches the CD for a command. -- Neil Bothwick I do not like this dumb machine I really ought to sell it. It never does just what I want But only what I tell it. pgpAi5LHfjgaD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
--- Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The correction was to replace dev=/dev/cdrom with dev=/dev/hdc. COASTER! Tried booting with the reader drive(Creative 24x DVD) -- it went clunk, clunk, clunk...nothing appeared on the screen but a blinking cursor. Tried booting with the writer drive(the Lite-on) -- no clunking but just a tiny, rectangular happy face next to a blinking cursor at the bottom, middle of the screen. Oh, and I see the unit's crashed into the bargain groan But I *was* able to retrieve the CD, curious. __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Neil Bothwick wrote: You can put a lot of this into /etc/defaults/cdrecord, to save (mis) typing it every time. Cool, thanks. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: COASTER! Well, you could try again adding speed=0 to the command, before the name of the ISO. That will drop the burning speed to the lowest possible level, and may be more reliably. But maybe your burner is broken (?) So, this friend of yours with the broadband and the working burner...are you planning on seeing him/her soon? ;- -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
possible level, and may be more reliably. But maybe your burner is broken (?) No, it's fine. Still under warranty. Works fine under WinXP. The reason I mentioned broadband is because big files(like install isos and pkg cds) can be downloaded in minutes instead of days. I can certainly download and burn small(ish) files using my home kit and my trusty old 56kUSR ext modem(after squeezing a signal through 8 mi of phone line!) -- as long as I do it in WinXP; remember? it occupies /dev/hda1. I can even emerge stuff from the net with gentoo up; it's just that during all this downloading and emerging there is no phone. Perhaps our correspondent's grub update plan is the way to go. Does emerge know enough to re re grub without leaving too many loose ends. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: possible level, and may be more reliably. But maybe your burner is broken (?) No, it's fine. Still under warranty. Works fine under WinXP. If you have a FAT partition for sharing files between Linux and XP, you could copy the ISO to there and burn it under XP. A USB flash memory device would also work for the transfer. Perhaps our correspondent's grub update plan is the way to go. Does emerge know enough to re re grub without leaving too many loose ends. You are certainly welcome to try, whether it is download the source directly from gnu.org or upgrading via emerge. I have my doubts as to whether that will help any though. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
You typod something. Looks like you put a space between the '-' and the first character of one of the options. Success! these files included. You then use cdrecord to write the ISO image to the CD. Now, before burning it, I'm aware there have been changes made in the burning process since the 2.6 kernel. My experience using cdrecord has only been wtth 2.4's, all coaster-making events :( From what I've seen on line it should be as easy as #cdrecord /dev/hdc/file . Ha! Fat chance! Could you please append some pointers? Here's my hardware info: livecd cdboot # ls -l /dev/hdc -brw-rw 1 root disk 22, 0 Mar 10 17:47 /dev/hdc livecd cdboot # dmesg hdc: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) livecd cdboot # less /etc/fstab /dev/hdc/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: Now, before burning it, I'm aware there have been changes made in the burning process since the 2.6 kernel. My experience using cdrecord has only been wtth 2.4's, all coaster-making events :( From what I've seen on line it should be as easy as #cdrecord /dev/hdc/file . Ha! Fat chance! Could you please append some pointers? Sure, first I would do: cdrecord -checkdrive dev=/dev/hdc -vv This will output a bunch of stuff. Towards the end, you should see something like this: Drive current speed: 16 Drive default speed: 16 Drive max speed: 16 Selected speed : 16 Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1605888 = 1568 KB If so, then we are ready to proceed with burning. Here is the command that I use: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree file.iso If your drive doesn't support burnfree, just take out the whole driveropt=burnfree part. But, something just occurred to medoes this system have 2 CD burners, or a burner and a reader? If not, you will have much trouble to burn a CD while running off the live cd. You may want to copy the .iso file over the network or to a USB key, and burn it on another system. Any windows software should also be able to burn an ISO without much trouble. Just make sure you open the ISO as a 'project', don't add it as a file to a new project...in other words, if you see tmp.iso in a list of files somewhere, you went the wrong way. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Richard Fish wrote: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree file.iso Sorry, it is getting late here. For you, that command line should be: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree file.iso Someday I will proofread my messages before posting... -RIchard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
But, something just occurred to medoes this system have 2 CD burners, or a burner and a reader? If not, you will a burner and a reader You may want to copy the .iso file over the network only dial-up available here. Networking different computers is a project in the long queue of things-to-do stretching away from just getting this install up and running. or to a USB key, and don't even know what that is burn it on another system. Any windows software should also be able to burn an ISO without much trouble. Just make sure This will be my first foray into command-line CD burning since my last miserable attempts. I used Roxio to burn the install iso after copying it onto a friend's machine who has broadband but no linux. __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Richard, please resend your follow up to this post where you complain about the late hour. I deleted it by mistake! It apparently had an important correction. BTW, how long before these posts find there way into an archive. -maxim __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: or to a USB key, and don't even know what that is Also goes by the name USB flash device...small devices that could fit on a keychain (hence the 'key' part of that) that work like a small removable disk. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! That should be -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito...so take the 'cdboot' off the front of that. Nope. Now I get: mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - - But I have another question: At what point does vmlinuz(under /tmp/cdboot/boot)make it onto the CD? The path to stage2_eltorito seems to pass it by. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! That should be -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito...so take the 'cdboot' off the front of that. Nope. Now I get: mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - - You typod something. Looks like you put a space between the '-' and the first character of one of the options. # mkisofs - o /tmp/tmp.iso ./ mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - - # mkisofs -o /tmp/tmp.iso ./ Total translation table size: 0 Total rockridge attributes bytes: 0 Total directory bytes: 4096 Path table size(bytes): 34 Max brk space used 21000 1064 extents written (2 MB) But I have another question: At what point does vmlinuz(under /tmp/cdboot/boot)make it onto the CD? The path to stage2_eltorito seems to pass it by. When you run mkisofs, it creates an ISO (cdrom filesystem) image with all of the files in the cdboot directory. So, for example carcharias cdboot # find * ./boot ./boot/grub ./boot/grub/stage2_eltorito ./boot/grub/menu.lst ./boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz ./boot/vmlinuz Running mkisofs from this directory will create an ISO image with all of these files included. You then use cdrecord to write the ISO image to the CD. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \ -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \ Not it's: mkisofs: Missing pathspec. Usage: mkisofs [options] file... You didn't say return to / so I'm assuming you want me to issue the command from livecd tmp #. Also, I added 'cdboot' to the second line, ie -b cdboot/boot/grub/.. since livecd tmp # ls cdboot grub-2005.0 grub-setup and got the same error. __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \ -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \ Not it's: mkisofs: Missing pathspec. Usage: mkisofs [options] file... There be a '.' (or './', if you like) at the end of that, and yes, you should still be inside the cdboot directory. cd cdboot mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \ -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \ -boot-info-table ./ -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
There be a '.' (or './', if you like) at the end of that, and yes, you should still be inside the cdboot directory. cd cdboot mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \ -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \ -boot-info-table ./ Here's 5 different attempts and their results: livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table mkisofs: Missing pathspec. Usage: mkisofs [options] file... Use mkisofs -help to get a list of valid options. livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table . mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table ./ mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table '.' mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table './' mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
--- maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There be a '.' (or './', if you like) at the end of that, and yes, you should still be inside the cdboot directory. cd cdboot mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \ -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \ -boot-info-table ./ Here's 5 different attempts and their results: livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table mkisofs: Missing pathspec. Usage: mkisofs [options] file... Use mkisofs -help to get a list of valid options. livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table . mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table ./ mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table '.' mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table './' mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! It looks like your current working directory is cdboot. In that case the relative path to the boot image would be boot/grub/stage2_eltorito (not cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito). Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: There be a '.' (or './', if you like) at the end of that, and yes, you should still be inside the cdboot directory. cd cdboot mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \ -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 \ -boot-info-table ./ Here's 5 different attempts and their results: livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table mkisofs: Missing pathspec. Usage: mkisofs [options] file... Use mkisofs -help to get a list of valid options. livecd cdboot # mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R -b cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorit o -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table . mkisofs: Uh oh, I cant find the boot image 'cdboot/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito' ! That should be -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito...so take the 'cdboot' off the front of that. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: to copy your kernel to the floppy also, and load it from there. Your kernel is going to have to be fairly petite to fit...probably less than 1.2M or so. the kernel is already 1.57M. Are you saying I should reconfig the kernel? I recall modularizing most of the stuff I wouldn't need until after the OS is up. Can you suggest what to leave out? I seem to recall a method of formatting a floppy 1,7M. But I didn't see it in man fdformat or man mke2fs. Maybe a boot CD. But that seems like a recipe for making coasters. Well, things like usb, ieee1394, most filesystems (obviously you want to keep ext2/3!), sound, and networking are the obvious choices for becoming modules if they are not already. If you want to post the contents of the kernel config, I will take a look and see if anything pops out at me. The best command for this is probably: grep -v ^# /usr/src/linux/.config | grep =y This will return just those things that are compiled into the kernel, not modules or unselected. I can also give you the instructions for making a bootable CD if you want to try that. It isn't terribly hard, actually it is a bit easier than getting grub to work from a hard disk! But a CD-RW drive/disk would be the most useful... cd /tmp mkdir -p cdboot/boot/grub cd cdboot cp /boot/vmlinuz boot/ cp /boot/grub/stage2_eltorito boot/grub/ cp /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz boot/grub/ cp /boot/grub/grub.conf boot/grub/menu.lst Notice that the grub.conf file *must* be renamed to menu.lst. You will also need to edit 'boot/grub/menu.lst', and change all (hd0,1)/grub to (cd)/boot/grub. The result should be something like: splashimage=(cd)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Gentoo kernel (cd)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 Finally, to make the ISO, run (should all be on one line, without the backslashes): mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \ -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \ . Burn /tmp/cdboot.iso to a CD-R[W], and you should be set. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
I can also give you the instructions for making a bootable CD if you want to try that. It isn't terribly hard, actually it is a bit easier than getting grub to work from a hard disk! But a CD-RW drive/disk would be the most useful... cd /tmp mkdir -p cdboot/boot/grub cd cdboot cp /boot/vmlinuz boot/ cp /boot/grub/stage2_eltorito boot/grub/ cp /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz boot/grub/ cp /boot/grub/grub.conf boot/grub/menu.lst Notice that the grub.conf file *must* be renamed to menu.lst. You will also need to edit 'boot/grub/menu.lst', and change all (hd0,1)/grub to (cd)/boot/grub. The result should be something like: splashimage=(cd)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Gentoo kernel (cd)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 ^ I'm guessing this should be (cdrom), my first cd-drive(/dev/hdc) Here's menu.lst, please check for errors: default 0 timeout 30 splashimage=(cdrom)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Gentoo #root (hd0,1) kernel (cdrom)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 title=WinXP rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 Finally, to make the ISO, run (should all be on one line, without the backslashes): mkisofs -o /tmp/cdboot.iso -R \ -b boot/grub/stage2_eltorito \ -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \ . Burn /tmp/cdboot.iso to a CD-R[W], and you should be set. What is the preferred method to burn a CD? cdrecord? It's not on my system. Popped in the 2005,0 pkg CD and did #mount /cdrom #export PKGDIR =/cdrom #emerge -av --usepkg cdrecord and got emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy cdrecord -mw __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maxim wexler wrote: splashimage=(cd)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Gentoo kernel (cd)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 ^ I'm guessing this should be (cdrom), my first cd-drive(/dev/hdc) No, it should be '(cd)'. It is the device name that the stage2_eltorito creates when it boots, and has nothing to do with the device names under Linux at all. Here's menu.lst, please check for errors: default 0 timeout 30 splashimage=(cdrom)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Gentoo #root (hd0,1) kernel (cdrom)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 title=WinXP rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 Hmm, just to be safe, take out the #root (hd0,1) line completely. Everything else looks ok though. What is the preferred method to burn a CD? cdrecord? It's not on my system. Popped in the 2005,0 pkg CD and did app-cdr/cdrtools contains cdrecord. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler schreef: Remove the root (hd0,1) line. That should (I hope) let you boot gentoo from the floppy. Arrrgh! Now when I choose Gentoo from the menu: Booting 'Gentoo' kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue... You might want to have a look at the docs page... meaning, Gentoo Linux Documentation -- Gentoo Grub Error Collection at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml It looks like it might be quite helpful :-) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Holly Bostick wrote: maxim wexler schreef: Remove the root (hd0,1) line. That should (I hope) let you boot gentoo from the floppy. Arrrgh! Now when I choose Gentoo from the menu: Booting 'Gentoo' kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue... You might want to have a look at the docs page... meaning, Gentoo Linux Documentation -- Gentoo Grub Error Collection at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml It looks like it might be quite helpful :-) Holly Hi Holly, I still recommend that the problem child, so to speak, can be bypassed by simply going to www.gnu.org, and downloading the latest source, and compiling it outside of the Gentoo emerge system. Then when Gentoo gets its ebuild working, you can always go back, doing a search on grub, and delete it. Then emerge grub. When I installed grub, I emerged it, but then I used the same install floppy that I've been using for over a year now. Perhaps that was my secret to success, a real working floppy. Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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rob3 wrote: I still recommend that the problem child, so to speak, can be bypassed by simply going to www.gnu.org, and downloading the latest source, and compiling it outside of the Gentoo emerge system. Then when Gentoo gets its ebuild working, you can always go back, doing a search on grub, and delete it. Then emerge grub. When I installed grub, I emerged it, but then I used the same install floppy that I've been using for over a year now. Perhaps that was my secret to success, a real working floppy. Rob. There are 2 distinct problems here: 1. Booting from floppyMaxim and I are very close to solving this one...only fixing up the grub.conf file remains. Rebuilding grub is not going to help a bit for this problem. 2. Booting from HD. This is more difficult, I strongly believe this is because the stage 1.5 loader cannot read the stage2 due to where the stage2 is on the hard disk and the limitations in addressing those sectors through BIOS calls. There /may/ be a workaround for this though (by using --force-lba or the 'd' option to grub's install command). It /might/ also be a problem in the Gentoo build of grub, but I think that is highly unlikely... Has anybody had any luck using a /boot (or, if no separate /boot, then '/') that is 60+GB from the beginning of the disk? Has anybody tried? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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There are 2 distinct problems here: 1. Booting from floppyMaxim and I are very close to solving this one...only fixing up the grub.conf file remains. Rebuilding grub is not going to help a bit for this problem. In grub.conf commented out root(hd0,1) line; modified kernel line to read: kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 prepped a floppy and did a grub setup(fd0) as per previous instructions. Now it's Booting 'Gentoo' kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 then nothing, not even file not found. (by using --force-lba or the 'd' option to grub's install command). It did that. No good. __ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maxim wexler wrote: There are 2 distinct problems here: 1. Booting from floppyMaxim and I are very close to solving this one...only fixing up the grub.conf file remains. Rebuilding grub is not going to help a bit for this problem. In grub.conf commented out root(hd0,1) line; modified kernel line to read: kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 prepped a floppy and did a grub setup(fd0) as per previous instructions. Now it's Booting 'Gentoo' kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 then nothing, not even file not found. Ok, I should have seen that coming. If we can't load stage2 from /boot, we can't load the kernel either. So, we should try to copy your kernel to the floppy also, and load it from there. Your kernel is going to have to be fairly petite to fit...probably less than 1.2M or so. Delete everything from the floppy that is _not_ in this list to make room for the kernel: /mnt/floppy/: total 1 drwx-- 2 root root 1024 Jun 2 17:36 grub /mnt/floppy/grub: total 144 -rw--- 1 root root197 Aug 27 2004 default -rw--- 1 root root 45 Aug 24 2004 device.map -rw--- 1 root root285 Jun 2 17:35 grub.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jun 2 17:37 menu.lst - grub.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root512 Jun 1 19:15 stage1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105544 Jun 1 19:15 stage2 Then, copy the kernel to the floopy: cp -p /boot/vmlinuz /mnt/floppy And finally, update the kernel line in grub.conf to read: kernel (fd0)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 Also, delete the splashimage= line from the grub.conf file on the floppy. As long as you don't touch the stage2 file in this process, you should not need to re-run the grub setup commands. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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to copy your kernel to the floppy also, and load it from there. Your kernel is going to have to be fairly petite to fit...probably less than 1.2M or so. the kernel is already 1.57M. Are you saying I should reconfig the kernel? I recall modularizing most of the stuff I wouldn't need until after the OS is up. Can you suggest what to leave out? I seem to recall a method of formatting a floppy 1,7M. But I didn't see it in man fdformat or man mke2fs. Maybe a boot CD. But that seems like a recipe for making coasters. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Remove the root (hd0,1) line. That should (I hope) let you boot gentoo from the floppy. Arrrgh! Now when I choose Gentoo from the menu: Booting 'Gentoo' kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue... __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maxim wexler wrote: Remove the root (hd0,1) line. That should (I hope) let you boot gentoo from the floppy. Arrrgh! Now when I choose Gentoo from the menu: Booting 'Gentoo' kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue... See my second message...I meant to say: title Gentoo kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 or possibly kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 which would be more the way I usually do it. On 6/4/05, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remove the root (hd0,1) line. That should (I hope) let you boot gentoo from the floppy. Arrrgh! Now when I choose Gentoo from the menu: Booting 'Gentoo' kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue... __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maxim wexler wrote: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-faq.en.html HTH, Michael Thanks for the tip. But before I try this(and this goes for Richard F's suggestion) how do I safely get rid of the grub I have? Or do I need to? The emerge -C flag comes w/ dire warnings, The manual entry for -c mentions slotted pkgs. And I see --depclean too, and --prune. If the problem is the one I had, you can simply test it by creating the /boot/boot directory and then copy the /boot/grub directory to /boot/boot. If that was your problem, then grub would be able to find the grub.conf file in /boot/boot/grub/ and everything should work. HTH, Michael -- Michael Ulm RD Team ISIS Information Systems Austria tel: +43 2236 27551-219, fax: +43 2236 21081 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Website: www.isis-papyrus.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Oops, What I was trying to say before I hit the wrong key, I paused the boot screen on the non-booting gentoo box and took a look at the HD line. It says the LBA mode is off. 32 bit mode is off. DMA mode is UDMA6, PIO mode is 4 FWIW -mw __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maxim wexler wrote: Oops, What I was trying to say before I hit the wrong key, I paused the boot screen on the non-booting gentoo box and took a look at the HD line. It says the LBA mode is off. 32 bit mode is off. DMA mode is UDMA6, PIO mode is 4 FWIW I took a peek at the manual for your MB. You might want to double check the BIOS settings for the hard disk and make sure that LBA/Large mode is set to Auto. Also, what is the CHS reported by the kernel in the dmesg output? If it says CHS=/255/63, then LBA mode is active. You might want to try a modified setup command in grub: root (hd0,1) setup --force-lba (hd0) -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Ah, some progress at last! Seems like there is a problem in the grub.conf file, but nothing too serious. Could you re-post that file? default 0 timeout 30 title=Gentoo root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 title=WinXP rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maxim wexler wrote: Ah, some progress at last! Seems like there is a problem in the grub.conf file, but nothing too serious. Could you re-post that file? default 0 timeout 30 title=Gentoo root (hd0,1) Remove the root (hd0,1) line. That should (I hope) let you boot gentoo from the floppy. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: I took a peek at the manual for your MB. You might want to double check the BIOS settings for the hard disk and make sure that LBA/Large mode is set to Auto. It *is*. The only other choice is disabled. Also, what is the CHS reported by the kernel in the dmesg output? If it says CHS=/255/63, then LBA mode is active. CHS=65535/16/63 Damn. Looks like LBA is being disabled, most likely because the drive was initially partitioned without LBA. Parted might be able to fix this, but I'm not sure. You may have to restart from scratch If you are brave, follow these steps _very_ carefully to see if it is simply due to the partitioning of the disk. If you are careful, you can do this without damaging any data on your system. All of this will be from the livecd: First, backup your partition table and MBR to a floppy disk: # mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy # dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/floppy/mbr.backup bs=512 count=1 # fdisk -l /dev/hda /mnt/floppy/partitions.txt # umount /mnt/floppy Now we need to erase things: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 ## DOUBLE CHECK THIS LINE And reboot the live CD. If LBA is working, CHS should now be reported as xxx/255/63. To restore things, run: # mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy # dd if=/mnt/floppy/mbr.backup of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 ## DOUBLE CHECK AGAIN If you have logical partitions also, use the data in /mnt/floppy/partitions.txt to recreate them using fdisk with the exact starting cylinder, ending cylinder, and Id. # umount /mnt/floppy And reboot. If all went well, you didn't lose any data... If you do decide to rebuild the system, and we did not get LBA mode from blanking the partition table and rebooting above, then you can try running fdisk with -H 255, partition the drive, and reboot. That should basically force things to the right mode. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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Richard Fish wrote: maxim wexler wrote: Ah, some progress at last! Seems like there is a problem in the grub.conf file, but nothing too serious. Could you re-post that file? default 0 timeout 30 title=Gentoo root (hd0,1) Remove the root (hd0,1) line. That should (I hope) let you boot gentoo from the floppy. -Richard Um, sorry, what I meant to say was: Change the lines above to read: default 0 timeout 30 title Gentoo kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 title WinXP rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-faq.en.html HTH, Michael Thanks for the tip. But before I try this(and this goes for Richard F's suggestion) how do I safely get rid of the grub I have? Or do I need to? The emerge -C flag comes w/ dire warnings, The manual entry for -c mentions slotted pkgs. And I see --depclean too, and --prune. How best proceed? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maxim wexler wrote: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-faq.en.html HTH, Michael Thanks for the tip. But before I try this(and this goes for Richard F's suggestion) how do I safely get rid of the grub I have? Or do I need to? The emerge -C flag comes w/ dire warnings, The manual entry for -c mentions slotted pkgs. And I see --depclean too, and --prune. Well, to remove it: emerge --unmerge grub rm -rf /boot/grub But you had better install and configure another boot loader (new grub version or LILO) at this point or you will be hosed I had a couple of more thoughts on what the problem could be though... Since you are hanging after loading the stage1.5 (the please wait message comes from there), I think there are 3 possibilities: 1. The stage2 binary is corrupt. As I think about this more and more, I think this is less and less likely. Re-emerging grub should fix it in any case if this was the problem. 2. The stage2 file cannot be loaded. This could be due to a misbehaving BIOS, or because it is at a location that is physically inaccessible through the BIOS calls. 3. The stage2 file is actually loading fine, but it cannot read your grub.conf file, either due to not being able to locate it, or possibly due to a mistake inside the file. I would like you to try a couple of things: First, assuming that your system can boot from floppy, try making a bootable floppy with grub. The steps for this are: mke2fs /dev/fd0 mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy cp -Rp /boot/grub /mnt/floppy/grub rm -f /mnt/floppy/grub/*_stage1_5 umount /mnt/floppy grub grub root (fd0) grub setup (fd0) grub quit You should now reboot, and get a boot menu from the floppy disk. If so, then both your configuration file and the grub binaries are valid. If not, then there is a problem with stage2 or grub.conf. Assuming you are able to boot from floppy, the next step is a slightly different grub setup command for the hard disk. In the grub shell, you want to run (like always): root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) The final line of this output is something like: Running install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+22 p (hd0,1)/grub/stage2 /grub/menu.lst We want to duplicate that line exactly, except adding a 'd' after (hd0): install /grub/stage1 (hd0) d (hd0)1+22 p (hd0,1)/grub/stage2 /grub/menu.lst (you can do an info grub and read commands - command line and ... - install for a description of what the 'd' does). Now try rebooting. If we still haven't solved the problem booting from the hard disk, then I think you may have to repartition your system to make /boot the first partition (hda1/hd0,0) on the disk, and at the very start of the disk. The thing is, some BIOSs cannot access cylinders above 1024, which even in LBA mode means the boot files must exist within the first 8GB of the disk. In non-LBA mode, the limit is even lower. I don't know how big your hda1 partition is, but it is always safest to put /boot first. Or, you can continue to boot with the floppy... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maxim wexler wrote: And which OS are you choosing from the menu again, maxim (assuming you get to a menu)? Or does this affect all OSes in your menu? no choice. After grub-install I get the Grub loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... message(white text,black bg). To get back to Macroshaft I boot into a Win98 CD and run fdisk /mbr I had a grub problem with the same symptoms and solved it by moving all the grub stuff from /boot/grub to /boot/boot/grub. This is described in the grub faq (Item 11) http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-faq.en.html HTH, Michael -- Michael Ulm RD Team ISIS Information Systems Austria tel: +43 2236 27551-219, fax: +43 2236 21081 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our Website: www.isis-papyrus.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: but #grub GNU GRUB version 0.94 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) Well, you could try updating grub. 0.96-r1 is what is current for stable x86. I could also send you directly my stage1, e2fs_stage_1_5, and stage2 files. It would allow us to eliminate (or identify!) the build of grub as the source of the problem. not sure how to interpret tune2fs. Mostly I wanted to make sure that the system wasn't full (free blocks and free inodes both 0), and that you didn't have any unusual filesystem features enabled. Everything looks ok though. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maybe you can try this, root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) That's better. But it still doesn't work. Staring at a console right now telling me to please wait. grub root (hd0,1) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grub setup (hd0) Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... no Checking if /grub/stage1 exists... yes Checking if /grub/stage2 exists... yes Checking if /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes Running embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)... 22 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+22 p (hd0,1)/grub/stage2 /grub/menu. lst... succeeded Done. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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On 6/1/05, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe you can try this, root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) That's better. But it still doesn't work. Staring at a console right now telling me to please wait. that's right, isn't it? it's working if you see the console giving you the list. if what you are wishing for is that gentoo background choosing menu, then you'll need splashimage set in your grub.conf which I didn't see in your first post. grub root (hd0,1) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grub setup (hd0) Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... no Checking if /grub/stage1 exists... yes Checking if /grub/stage2 exists... yes Checking if /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes Running embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)... 22 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+22 p (hd0,1)/grub/stage2 /grub/menu. lst... succeeded Done. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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maxim wexler wrote: maybe you can try this, root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) That's better. But it still doesn't work. Staring at a console right now telling me to please wait. grub root (hd0,1) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grub setup (hd0) Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... no Checking if /grub/stage1 exists... yes Checking if /grub/stage2 exists... yes Checking if /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes Running embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)... 22 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+22 p (hd0,1)/grub/stage2 /grub/menu. lst... succeeded Done. Ok, quick comparison to my results... grub root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grub setup (hd0) Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... no Checking if /grub/stage1 exists... yes Checking if /grub/stage2 exists... yes Checking if /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes Running embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)... 16 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,0)/grub/stage2 /grub/menu.lst... succeeded Done. Hmm, this is weird. My e2fs_stage1_5 takes 16 sectors, but yours takes 22that doesn't seem right. I could understand a 1 or 2 sector difference if we are using different versions of grub. Let's compare grub versions and stage files: carcharias rjf # qpkg -I -v grub sys-boot/grub-0.96-r1 * carcharias rjf # ls -l /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 /boot/grub/stage2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8052 Apr 22 02:07 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root512 Apr 22 02:07 /boot/grub/stage1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105576 Apr 22 02:07 /boot/grub/stage2 carcharias rjf # md5sum /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 /boot/grub/stage2 fec478948a06cc1fb7339a2cd3e26663 /boot/grub/stage1 96451f2a81e2cbf4d1c41cf4b61787e0 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 d69594a75e5b72df86f03df6d5d7fbd3 /boot/grub/stage2 Also, how did you format /boot? Could you post the output of dumpe2fs -h /dev/hda2? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
choosing menu, then you'll need splashimage set in Whoa! IIRC splashimage is optional. Can somebody weigh in here? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
On Tue, 31 May 2005 14:51:49 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: Whoa! IIRC splashimage is optional. Can somebody weigh in here? Yes, it is optional, and worth disabling if you have problems. GRUB will bail out with no error message if you set an incorrect path for splashimage. -- Neil Bothwick We are from the planet Taglinis. Take us to your reader! pgprZqJkkekfS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Tue, 31 May 2005 14:51:49 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: Whoa! IIRC splashimage is optional. Can somebody weigh in here? Yes, it is optional, and worth disabling if you have problems. GRUB will bail out with no error message if you set an incorrect path for splashimage. You're right, of course, Neil, but from the original post I believe we are not talking about the bootsplash/fbsplash image but the grub menu graphics: ZeeGeek schreef: On 6/1/05, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's better. But it still doesn't work. Staring at a console right now telling me to please wait. that's right, isn't it? it's working if you see the console giving you the list. if what you are wishing for is that gentoo background choosing menu, then you'll need splashimage set in your grub.conf which I didn't see in your first post. The gentoo background choosing menu is what you get in the first part of grub.conf: default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/gentoo.xpm.gz not the silent or verbose splash defined by title Gentoo_current (2.6.11-gentoo-r8) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb-tng:ywrap,mtrr,pmipal,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=silent,theme:emergence quiet CONSOLE=/dev/vc1 initrd /fbsplash-emergence Now it's true that both are optional (you can just have a text menu with colors and not a graphic background for the menu, and of course you can just watch text scroll by on a black background during boot), but it seems to me that the operative question here is where does this Please wait... message come in? I don't pay enough attention to GRUB's booting process to be sure, but isn't that displayed before the GRUB menu comes up? Or is it just after boot? And which OS are you choosing from the menu again, maxim (assuming you get to a menu)? Or does this affect all OSes in your menu? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:55:39 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: Yes, it is optional, and worth disabling if you have problems. GRUB will bail out with no error message if you set an incorrect path for splashimage. You're right, of course, Neil, but from the original post I believe we are not talking about the bootsplash/fbsplash image but the grub menu graphics: As was I :) -- Neil Bothwick Linux like wigwam. No windows, no gates, Apache inside. pgp5zQHQ9vuM7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Ok, quick comparison to my results... grub root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grub setup (hd0) Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... no Checking if /grub/stage1 exists... yes Checking if /grub/stage2 exists... yes Checking if /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes Running embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)... 16 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running install /grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+16 p (hd0,0)/grub/stage2 /grub/menu.lst... succeeded Done. Hmm, this is weird. My e2fs_stage1_5 takes 16 sectors, but yours takes 22that doesn't seem right. I could understand a 1 or 2 sector difference if we are using different versions of grub. Let's compare grub versions and stage files: carcharias rjf # qpkg -I -v grub sys-boot/grub-0.96-r1 * carcharias rjf # ls -l /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 /boot/grub/stage2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8052 Apr 22 02:07 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root512 Apr 22 02:07 /boot/grub/stage1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105576 Apr 22 02:07 /boot/grub/stage2 carcharias rjf # md5sum /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 /boot/grub/stage2 fec478948a06cc1fb7339a2cd3e26663 /boot/grub/stage1 96451f2a81e2cbf4d1c41cf4b61787e0 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 d69594a75e5b72df86f03df6d5d7fbd3 /boot/grub/stage2 Also, how did you format /boot? Could you post the output of dumpe2fs -h /dev/hda2? -Richard -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11264 May 29 16:49 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root512 May 29 16:49 /boot/grub/stage1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 137004 May 29 16:49 /boot/grub/stage2 fec478948a06cc1fb7339a2cd3e26663 /boot/grub/stage1 1fad9fe77029e1e89c85c8f8484d6851 /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 913c881bb93faeaa723aca98bd65843e /boot/grub/stage2 Filesystem volume name: none Last mounted on: not available Filesystem UUID: 2384cca4-8bb8-4bb9-8c23-2c1e93ff0ece Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #:1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: filetype sparse_super Default mount options:(none) Filesystem state: not clean Errors behavior: Continue Filesystem OS type: Linux Inode count: 7968 Block count: 31752 Reserved block count: 1587 Free blocks: 28257 Free inodes: 7932 First block: 1 Block size: 1024 Fragment size:1024 Blocks per group: 8192 Fragments per group: 8192 Inodes per group: 1992 Inode blocks per group: 249 Filesystem created: Mon May 23 13:45:44 2005 Last mount time: Tue May 31 18:13:07 2005 Last write time: Tue May 31 18:13:07 2005 Mount count: 19 Maximum mount count: 29 Last checked: Mon May 23 13:45:44 2005 Check interval: 15552000 (6 months) Next check after: Sat Nov 19 13:45:44 2005 Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root) Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root) First inode: 11 Inode size: 128 Default directory hash: tea Directory Hash Seed: ebb0f0be-1fc5-43c0-97d0-a384ace470f6 livecd / # qpkg -I -v grub bash: qpkg: command not found but #grub GNU GRUB version 0.94 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory) checksums don't match but neither do versions. not sure how to interpret tune2fs. Come to think of it when it came time to format /dev/hda2 I had first tried reiserfs since that was how I formatted /boot on my other gentoo(2004.3) box, a K6-2, and it seemed to work OK. On this box(2005.0), a Sempron3100, when I tried to format as reiserfs the program balked(don't recall the exact circumstances) so I just did it as ext2 as the 2005.0 handbook suggested to do in the first place. Only thing I can think of for now. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler schreef: And which OS are you choosing from the menu again, maxim (assuming you get to a menu)? Or does this affect all OSes in your menu? no choice. After grub-install I get the Grub loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... message(white text,black bg). To get back to Macroshaft I boot into a Win98 CD and run fdisk /mbr Ok, now I've got it. The menu doesn't load at all. But your previous post as to formatting the /boot partition made me think of something I had problems like that some time ago, back when I first installed my first Gentoo. Basically what had happened was I got weird and unattributable errors due to my filesystem not being correctly formatted. It was supposed to be formatted, and files were installed to it and everything, but filesizes were being reported differently by different tools and things just didn't work properly. What I wound up doing was using qtparted to delete the filesystem and reformat it. Once the filesystem on the disk was the same as the filesystem that the disk thought it had, everything worked fine. Now, I seem to recall having heard that it is possible to delete and reformat a filesystem without deleting the partition (or damaging the files thereon), but I didn't know enough at the time to do that, so I just deleted the entire partition and recreated it. Since this is /boot, it won't be a tragedy to delete the partition, recreate, format it as ext2 from the start and reinstall grub. But maybe there's a way that you can just reformat the existing partition (again) as ext2, so that it takes. You might still have to reinstall grub anyway, however at this point that seems like the least of your worries :-) . Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Maxim, I just had to chroot iinto my system from livecd and I got a similar error message from Grub (referring to your 3rd post) anyways try this command it let me use Grub from inside chroot: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev I got it from this thread on forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-342872-highlight-grub.html Anyways I HTH couldn't figure out from above posts whether or not you problem was solved yet. Scott Jones On 5/31/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maxim wexler schreef: And which OS are you choosing from the menu again, maxim (assuming you get to a menu)? Or does this affect all OSes in your menu? no choice. After grub-install I get the Grub loading stage1.5 Grub loading, please wait... message(white text,black bg). To get back to Macroshaft I boot into a Win98 CD and run fdisk /mbr Ok, now I've got it. The menu doesn't load at all. But your previous post as to formatting the /boot partition made me think of something I had problems like that some time ago, back when I first installed my first Gentoo. Basically what had happened was I got weird and unattributable errors due to my filesystem not being correctly formatted. It was supposed to be formatted, and files were installed to it and everything, but filesizes were being reported differently by different tools and things just didn't work properly. What I wound up doing was using qtparted to delete the filesystem and reformat it. Once the filesystem on the disk was the same as the filesystem that the disk thought it had, everything worked fine. Now, I seem to recall having heard that it is possible to delete and reformat a filesystem without deleting the partition (or damaging the files thereon), but I didn't know enough at the time to do that, so I just deleted the entire partition and recreated it. Since this is /boot, it won't be a tragedy to delete the partition, recreate, format it as ext2 from the start and reinstall grub. But maybe there's a way that you can just reformat the existing partition (again) as ext2, so that it takes. You might still have to reinstall grub anyway, however at this point that seems like the least of your worries :-) . Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: Hello everyone, Don't you just hate it when you repair the mistakes and it STILL don't work. Yes!! grub setup (hd0) Any chance you can post the full output of the setup command? Maybe there is a clue in there... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Any chance you can post the full output of the setup command? Maybe there is a clue in there... Yikes! Now I get Error 12: Invalid device requested so much different from grub setup (hd0) Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... yes Checking if /boot/grub/stage2 exists... yes Checking if /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes Running embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)... 22 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+22 p (hd0,1)/boot/grub/stage2 / boot/grub/menu.lst... succeeded Done. of May26, which, I was informed, is also wrong, but obviously for a different reason. But I just checked. I exited out of /bin/bash, did a list /mnt/gentoo, found all as it should be. And when I chroot / is there as if I had booted normally. And so is /boot. Makes no sense. According to one respondent /etc/mtab might be worth a look. livecd / # less /etc/mtab /dev/ROOT / xfs rw,noatime 0 0 /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 rw,noatime 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 hmmm, that's strange; /dev/ROOT(hda4) is not xfs, it should be reiserfs. And when it was mounted the console noted that it *was* reiserfs. But /boot is correct. Or is it that mtab just lists defaults? But I notice that once I've chroot'ed I can mount drives according to the options listed in the fstab I wrote during the install. It's all a darkness. -mw __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
On 5/31/05, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any chance you can post the full output of the setup command? Maybe there is a clue in there... Yikes! Now I get Error 12: Invalid device requested so much different from grub setup (hd0) Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... yes Checking if /boot/grub/stage2 exists... yes Checking if /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 exists... yes Running embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)... 22 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+22 p (hd0,1)/boot/grub/stage2 / boot/grub/menu.lst... succeeded Done. of May26, which, I was informed, is also wrong, but obviously for a different reason. But I just checked. I exited out of /bin/bash, did a list /mnt/gentoo, found all as it should be. And when I chroot / is there as if I had booted normally. And so is /boot. Makes no sense. According to one respondent /etc/mtab might be worth a look. livecd / # less /etc/mtab /dev/ROOT / xfs rw,noatime 0 0 /dev/hda2 /boot ext2 rw,noatime 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0 hmmm, that's strange; /dev/ROOT(hda4) is not xfs, it should be reiserfs. And when it was mounted the console noted that it *was* reiserfs. But /boot is correct. Or is it that mtab just lists defaults? But I notice that once I've chroot'ed I can mount drives according to the options listed in the fstab I wrote during the install. It's all a darkness. -mw __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list maybe you can try this, root (hd0,1) setup (hd0) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] grub still broke
Hello everyone, Don't you just hate it when you repair the mistakes and it STILL don't work. I rebooted the 2005.0 install CD in full expectation of fixing the problem at last. I made the corrections suggested by the list(R.Price R.Fish)and rebooted. I was convinced the biggest mistake was entering #mount /dev/hda2 /boot rather than #mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/gentoo/boot before doing a chroot. But there must be a bigger one; boot still hangs at Grub loading stage 1.5, please wait... To recap, here's grub.conf: default 0 timeout 30 title=Gentoo root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 #not /boot/vmlinuz title=WinXP rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 I left out the splashscreen; that's optional isn't it? I removed the boot symlink, and grub setup (hd0) did *not* find anything in /boot/grub. -mw __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
