Re: [GNC] gnucash stackoverflow tag

2024-10-04 Thread John Ralls


> On Oct 4, 2024, at 07:17, Wolfgang Fahl  wrote:
> 
> Just tagged some questions in stackoverflow:
> 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/gnucash
> 
> and found:
> 
> https://money.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/gnucash
> 
> with a proper tag wiki
> https://money.stackexchange.com/edit-tag-wiki/710
> 
> IMHO it would be good to have a similar tag wiki entry in the stackoverflow 
> realm back pointing to
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Documentation#Q.26A_Communities

Wolfgang,

I’m not sure I understand what you’re suggesting. Is it a link on our wiki 
pointing to the Stackoverflow tag, or a link on Stackoverflow pointing to the 
GnuCash wiki item with links to Reddit and Stackexchange?

BTW the edit-tag-wiki link 404s. What’s it about?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote failed to initialize

2024-10-03 Thread John Ralls
Flavio,

I bet HomeBrew didn’t pick up the Apple Silicon build, but to make sure you can 
run
   file /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash
Which will return something like
  /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash: Mach-O 64-bit executable 
x86_64
For an Intel build; the end will be arm64e for an Apple Silicon one. If it’s an 
Intel build the simpler option is to get the Apple Silicon build from 
https;//www.gnucash.org <http://www.gnucash.org/>, but if you’d rather not 
you’ll have to reinstall Finance::Quote, see 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes#Installing_Finance::Quote_on_macOS_from_a_Terminal_prompt.

That doesn’t explain why perldoc can’t find Finance::Quote though. Does 
/Library/Perl/5.34/Finance/Quote.pm exist?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Oct 2, 2024, at 21:45, Boniforti Flavio  wrote:
> 
> Hi John.
> I installed GnuCash with HomeBrew. I did not manually install Perl - it was 
> already there:
> 
> me@MacBook-Pro ~ % perl -v
> 
> This is perl 5, version 34, subversion 1 (v5.34.1) built for 
> darwin-thread-multi-2level
> (with 2 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)
> 
> Copyright 1987-2022, Larry Wall
> 
> Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
> GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit.
> 
> Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on
> this system using "man perl" or "perldoc perl".  If you have access to the
> Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home Page.
> 
> My MBP is an M1.
> 
> Thanks for helping,
> F.
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
> https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
> https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com <https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com/>
> 
> Am Do., 3. Okt. 2024 um 01:13 Uhr schrieb John Ralls  <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>>:
>> Flavio,
>> 
>> What did you actually do? Do you by any chance have a perl installed that 
>> isn’t from Apple, perhaps HomeBrew or MacPorts? Is your MBP an Intel or 
>> Apple Silicon one and did you install the GnuCash that matches the 
>> architecture?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>> > On Oct 2, 2024, at 12:03, Boniforti Flavio > > <mailto:bonifort...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hi all.
>> > 
>> > On MacOS Sonoma 14.6.1 I've just followed the instructions from the GnuCash
>> > documentation to install the Finance::Quote module.
>> > After finishing without errors, I tried to use it but it won't initialize -
>> > see here:
>> > 
>> > me@MacBook-Pro ~ %
>> > /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q
>> > info
>> > 
>> > Application Path
>> > /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
>> > 
>> > Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules Finance::Quote
>> > JSON::Parse
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Even Perl doesn't know about its existence:
>> > 
>> > me@MacBook-Pro ~ % perldoc Finance::Quote
>> > 
>> > No documentation found for "Finance::Quote".
>> > 
>> > Is anybody able to help me understand what's gone wrong and how to fix it?
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> > F.
>> > 
>> > https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
>> > https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
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Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote failed to initialize

2024-10-02 Thread John Ralls
Flavio,

What did you actually do? Do you by any chance have a perl installed that isn’t 
from Apple, perhaps HomeBrew or MacPorts? Is your MBP an Intel or Apple Silicon 
one and did you install the GnuCash that matches the architecture?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Oct 2, 2024, at 12:03, Boniforti Flavio  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> On MacOS Sonoma 14.6.1 I've just followed the instructions from the GnuCash
> documentation to install the Finance::Quote module.
> After finishing without errors, I tried to use it but it won't initialize -
> see here:
> 
> me@MacBook-Pro ~ %
> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q
> info
> 
> Application Path
> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
> 
> Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules Finance::Quote
> JSON::Parse
> 
> 
> Even Perl doesn't know about its existence:
> 
> me@MacBook-Pro ~ % perldoc Finance::Quote
> 
> No documentation found for "Finance::Quote".
> 
> Is anybody able to help me understand what's gone wrong and how to fix it?
> 
> Thanks,
> F.
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
> https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
> https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com
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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.9 Released

2024-09-30 Thread John Ralls


Thanks for the donation.

No, there is no GnuCash legal entity to register with the IRS or to affiliate 
with the Software Freedom Conservancy.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 30, 2024, at 11:11 AM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2024-09-29 18:01, Alan Hopkins wrote:
>>  Absolutely agree with the others - to the developers: thank you! Merci!
>>  Thanks also to Murugan - for pointing out we can make donations to the
>>  development team via SourceForge.
>>  Here's the link from SourceForge for others who would like to
>>  contribute:
>>  [1]https://www.paypal.com/donate/?item_name=Donation+to+Gnucash&cmd=_do
>>  nations&business=paypal%40ihtfp.com
> 
> I've just made a donation while the idea was top of mind.
> 
> I imagine the answer is no, but I'd feel silly if I didn't ask:
> Is GnuCash development a 501(c)3 charity registered with the US Internal
> Revenue Service?
> 
> Stan Brown
> Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com
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[GNC] Gnucash 5.9 and Finance::Quote dump

2024-09-30 Thread John Ralls
I broke gnucash-cli -Q dump (to get individual stock quotes on the command 
line) for GnuCash 5.9 when I fixed Bug 799419. A user noticed this morning and 
submitted a PR to fix it, and I’ve merged that so it will be in tomorrow’s 
nightlies. 

All of the other online quotes stuff works normally.

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] Backup of Gnucash file shows incorrect reconciliation results

2024-09-30 Thread John Dzielski
Hi,
 I have been using GnuCash for many years.  I am not a sophisticated user, 
and primarily use it to keep track of my checking account.  I reconcile 
monthly, and once every few years I’m off by a few cents or dollars.  Today I 
reconciled the account and I was off by 70.10.  I unchecked every entry and 
stared at it for a while.  I think I may have exited reconciling, but not 
completed.  There were many c’s in the reconcile column.  I stared at the 
reconciliation for a while and found that there were two entries for 70.10.  I 
deleted one, and repeated the reconciliation.  I am not off by over $11,000.  I 
keep track of my Accounts.gnucash file with git, so I can recover the previous 
version from 2 weeks ago.  When I open that file, I see no c’s in the reconcile 
column.  When I repeat the reconciliation process, I am still getting an 
$11,000 error.  It seems something is being remembered.  I found some on-line 
threads that suggest that the previous balance is not correct, and that makes 
sense, but I don’t want to do something like that without some understanding of 
what happened.
Can anybody tell me what might have happened and point me to a resource on 
how to fix it?  Thank you, John.
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Re: [GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.9 Released

2024-09-30 Thread John Ralls

Sorry, the website push failed yesterday and I didn’t notice. It’s fixed now.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Sep 29, 2024, at 22:37, Joseph Keithley  wrote:
> 
> The Gnucash.org <http://gnucash.org/> page still only has versin 5.8 as the 
> download.  Where do I
> get 5.9?
> 

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[GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.9 Released

2024-09-29 Thread John Ralls
gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.9/gnucash-5.9.setup.exe
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.9/gnucash-5.9.setup.exe

Apple macOS:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.9/Gnucash-Intel-5.9-1.dmg
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.9/Gnucash-Arm-5.9-1.dmg
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.9/Gnucash-Intel-5.9-1.dmg
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.9/Gnucash-Arm-5.9-1.dmg

Getting GnuCash as source code
If you want to compile GnuCash 5.9 for yourself, the source code can be 
downloaded from:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.9/gnucash-5.9.tar.bz2
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.9/gnucash-5.9.tar.gz
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.9/gnucash-5.9.tar.bz2
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.9/gnucash-5.9.tar.gz

To compile GnuCash from the source code by yourself, you will need at least 
Gtk+ 3.22.30, Guile 2.0.9, Boost 1.67, WebKitGtk 2.4, GoogleTest 1.8.0, cmake 
3.14.5 and SWIG 3.0.12. Please consult the README.dependencies file in the 
sources for the exact list of dependencies and versions.
Getting the documentation

Note that the documentation for unstable releases is not on the GnuCash 
website. It is built daily and may be found on the development server under the 
locale directory; "C" is English, "de" is German, and so on.

The documentation is included in the MacOS and Windows application bundles.

If you want to compile the GnuCash Documentation 5.9 for yourself, the source 
code can be downloaded from:

Sourceforge: 
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.9/gnucash-docs-5.9.tar.gz
 
GitHub: 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.6/gnucash-docs-5.9.tar.gz

You can also checkout the sources directly from the git repository as described 
at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git.

About the Program

GnuCash is a free, open source accounting program released under the GNU 
General Public License (GPL) and available for GNU/Linux, *BSD, Solaris, MacOS, 
and Microsoft Windows. Programming on GnuCash began in 1997, and its first 
stable release was in 1998.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] CHASE BK-ADbanking-GnuCash

2024-09-28 Thread John Ralls
Probably not. Chase reportedly stopped supporting OFX Direct Connect last year: 
https://www.reddit.com/r/plaintextaccounting/comments/ychg4c/chase_dropped_ofx_direct_connect_what_do_i_do_now/.
 

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 27, 2024, at 20:26, Luis Guzman via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good Morning
> i am newbie and in know also very little on software.
> I am having problem with connecting automatically the program to my bank.  
> can someone help me?
> Thank you in advance
> Luis
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Re: [GNC] Crash after delete sub-account

2024-09-28 Thread John Ralls
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799389, fixed in 5.9 which I’ll 
release tomorrow.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 28, 2024, at 03:42, Fred Tydeman  wrote:
> 
> After doing an Import of a QIF file, I had a new top level account
> (along with Assets, Equity, Expenses, Income, Liabilities, Trading).
> It had one sub-account with one transaction in it.
> So I had  Tax Forn:IRA as the account and sub-account.
> I edited the transaction by changing that part of the transaction
> to Expenses: us:Tax:Fore:IRA
> So, Tax Forn:IRA is now empty.
> So much for the background.
> 
> In the Accounts tab, I click on the IRA sub-account of Tax Fore.
> I then click on Delete at the top of the screen.
> Now, Tax Fore still has a right pointing arrow indicating that it
> has sub-accounts (yet I just deleted the sub-account).
> If I click on that right pointing arrow, Gnucash crashes.
> 
> I am running Gnucash 5.8 on Fedora Linux 40
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Re: [GNC] Reconcile accounts out of monthly sequence

2024-09-24 Thread John Ralls
No. The only way to get the reconciled balance correct is to reconcile in 
sequence.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 24, 2024, at 20:32, Tony Vanson  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Using Windows 11 and GnuCash 5.8
> Is it possible to reconcile accounts ad-hoc, i.e July before February etc,
> without creating chaos with starting and ending balances
> 
> -- 
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> 
> *The older I get,*
> *the better I was*
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Re: [GNC] back-end 'books' table

2024-09-24 Thread John Ralls
Yes.

You might find https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/SQL helpful; it has brief 
descriptions of each table.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 24, 2024, at 9:54 AM, Mark at Lorimark  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm casually curious about the 'books' table.
> 
>> sqlite> .schema books
>> CREATE TABLE books(guid text(32) PRIMARY KEY NOT NULL, root_account_guid 
>> text(32) NOT NULL, root_template_guid text(32) NOT NULL);
>> sqlite> select * from books;
>> 212f7dc40c094219a08d3b8c1f52d347|dd3701d5f2bb4f55be49248d7b4203c4|b77add97b2ae46fba82a8949bdd749f8
>> sqlite> 
> 
> At present, does this always only ever have just one 'book' ?
> 
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Re: [GNC] Database Versions

2024-09-23 Thread John Ralls
This applies to the SQL backend only, the XML file has no version information.

Once you’ve populated the database the versions table should look like this:
Gnucash|2060800
Gnucash-Resave|19920
accounts|1
books|1
budgets|1
budget_amounts|1
commodities|1
lots|2
prices|3
schedxactions|1
transactions|4
splits|5
billterms|2
customers|2
employees|2
entries|4
invoices|4
jobs|1
orders|1
taxtables|2
taxtable_entries|3
vendors|1
recurrences|2
slots|4

Gnucash records the version of GnuCash that originally created the database. 
Gnucash-Resave indicates the subversion commit number from the original 
creation of the SQL schema; we’d bump that if we were to make a schema change 
so dramatic that we needed to recreate the whole database (we haven’t yet). The 
remaining records table schema versions. For those that aren’t 1 there will be 
a comment section in the respective table implementation file labelled Upgrade 
(e.g. 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/63714e5e93b2091b35bbd0d28f69bce03a397d3e/libgnucash/backend/sql/gnc-transaction-sql.cpp#L459)
 with a brief explanation of the change; you can use git blame to find the 
commit for each of those lines to get to the commit which will usually provide 
more details about it.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 23, 2024, at 09:01, Mark at Lorimark  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was looking at my back-end data, and find that there is a version reference 
> there.  In my old accounting file that I've been working in for a while, it 
> shows "Gnucash|413".  If I create a new file with no data, it shows 
> "Gnucash|508".
> 
> I'm curious, are there any references on-line as to the differences in the 
> database schema for these different versions, and also does GnuCash 
> automatically apply schema changes to the data when things change?
> 
>> mark@lsus2:~/LorimarkSolutions/gnucash$ sqlite3 Gnucash58Test.gnucash
>> sqlite> select * from versions;
>> Gnucash|508
>> Gnucash-Resave|19920
> 
>> mark@lsus2:~/LorimarkSolutions/gnucash$ sqlite3 LorimarkSolutions.gnucash 
>> sqlite> select * from versions;
>> Gnucash|413
>> Gnucash-Resave|19920
>> books|1
> 
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Re: [GNC] Multiple accounts

2024-09-21 Thread John Ralls
Two ways that work on Windows:
  Move the new one out of the way. 
  Click and hold the GnuCash icon in the taskbar so it lets you pick which 
window to switch to

On Linux you can tap the Alt key to unstack all of the open windows for all 
applications then click the one you want to use.

On MacOS you tap the F3 key to do the same. You can cycle through the current 
app’s windows with cmd-`.

On all platforms you can use the Windows menu to select the window you want 
focussed.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 21, 2024, at 11:32, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2024-09-21 09:40, John Ralls wrote:
>> There’s a preference for that on the Register defaults page: Register opens 
>> in a new window. The default is off. There’s a similar one for reports on 
>> the Reports page.
>> 
>> You can also move any tab to a new window with Windows>New Window with Page.
> 
> Before I saw your note, I was about to post about Window » New Window
> with Page, but first I tried it while in the Accounts tab. Then I
> couldn't find a way to get it back into the original GC window. I tried
> View » New Accounts Page, but that opened in default layout, so I lost
> all my subaccount expansions and geometry of columns.
> 
> I recovered by closing GC and copying a recent backup of my .gcm file
> over the new one in %APPDATA%\GnuCash\books. But to echo Chris, did _I_
> miss some way I could have just put my detached Accounts tab back into
> the original GC window?
> 
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Re: [GNC] Multiple accounts

2024-09-21 Thread John Ralls
There’s a preference for that on the Register defaults page: Register opens in 
a new window. The default is off. There’s a similar one for reports on the 
Reports page.

You can also move any tab to a new window with Windows>New Window with Page.

Regards,
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> On Sep 21, 2024, at 07:34, Robert Heller  wrote:
> 
> The accounts should be as tabs. It is possible to open a new accounts window
> (Windows menu). Older versions of GnuCash would open a new window when you
> opened an account, but with the whole "tabs are better than window managers"
> craze, accounts are opened as tabs. At least that is how things work on my
> Linux machine.
> 
> At Sat, 21 Sep 2024 06:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Chris Miller  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Folks, 
>> 
>> It looks like I can only see one account at a time. I can't find a way to 
>> open several for cross-reference and comparison. Am I missing something? 
>> 
>> Thanks for the help,
> 
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Re: [GNC] Australian Mutual Funds

2024-09-21 Thread John Ralls
Megan,

Perhaps it isn’t obvious that after selecting the account type you need to 
click the Select button in the Security/Currency row to get the Select security 
dialog box. One can’t have an account without an associated commodity. It would 
be a better UI design to disable the OK button when that field is empty, but 
the current code doesn’t do that.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Sep 21, 2024, at 02:53, Megan Tilley  wrote:
> 
> Thanks John - I have moved a step forward, I think:
> 
> 
> Open Tools>Security Editor ===> First thing is -- I thought you could only 
> select the suggest fund (which showed as Stocks to me), not create another in 
> the Namespace - I created Mutual, so that worked!
> 
> New Account information ===> Created the Name, inserted the Code, selected 
> the Brokerage Account Mutual Fund as the Parent (So that is different to your 
> 2nd screenshot), Account Type set to Mutual Fund. Clicked OK - message popped 
> up saying select the commodity.  Screenshot attached. I closed the message, 
> moved to select the account name, clicked OK, same message popped up.
> 
> 
> I hope you can see my confusion! LOL!
> 
> I have read both Chapter 9 and Chapter 11, but thanks for the reminder. My 
> issue has always been translating financial terms into the terms I have 
> learned here in Australia (eg 401k --- superannuation fund, etc.)
> 
> Thanks, John, eager to learn more!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Megan Tilley
> megan.til...@gmail.com <mailto:megan.til...@gmail.com>
> 0409 949 717
> 
> ---
> "He who laughs last probably made a backup."
> ---
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 21 Sept 2024 at 12:39, John Ralls  <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
>> That’s not correct. You can create a commodity for anything you like, and 
>> BTW you can create any number of namespaces to categorize your commodities.
>> 
>> Yes, “commodity” is an overloaded word in English. To market traders it 
>> means futures in some physical product: Sow bellies, wheat, steel. In 
>> GnuCash it means anything that you might account for that isn’t an official 
>> (meaning recognized by the ISO 4217 committee).
>> 
>> So, you want a namespace “Mutual Fund”? No problem. Open Tools>Security 
>> Editor. Click the Add button. Fill out the dialog box as shown in the first 
>> screenshot and click OK. On the Accounts tab click the New button and fill 
>> out the new account information, selecting either Stock or Mutual Fund for 
>> the Account Type, then click Select. If the new commodity is the only one 
>> you’ve got then that will be in the selection dialog as shown in the second 
>> screenshot.
>> 
>> This is all explained much more thoroughly in Chapter 9 of the Tutorial and 
>> Concepts Guide: 
>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_invest.html. See 
>> Chapter 11 for a thorough discussion of Capital Gains.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2024, at 18:52, Megan Tilley >> <mailto:megan.til...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have done so (created the commodity in Tools>Security Editor) however, 
>>> that process only allows "Stocks" and not a Fund... so - confusion on my 
>>> part.
>>> 
>>> I have obviously done the creation incorrectly as the 'new' list still does 
>>> not show the additions - snip of Security list and also Account list.
>>> 
>>> As I indicated - I believe that they should be Mutual Funds...
>>> 
>>> Commodity in Australia is a classification - a Stock fits in a Commodity 
>>> market place - Manufacturing, Property, etc.. So I think I need to add 
>>> "Property" somewhere.
>> 
>> > 19.30.27.png>
> 

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Re: [GNC] Australian Mutual Funds

2024-09-21 Thread John Ralls


> On Sep 20, 2024, at 22:27, flywire  wrote:
> 
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2024-September/113205.html
> John
> Ralls wrote:
> 
>> ...
> 
> 
> Posts with links can be opened directly if there is clear space around the
> link.  Would commodity Wheat be Type Stock?
> 
> While this is raised in the context of Managed Funds
> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/invest_concepts1.html#invest_types2
> defines
> Stocks and Mutual Funds:
> 
>> ...A mutual fund is a group investment mechanism in which you can buy into
>> many stocks simultaneously. For example, a “S&P 500 index fund” is a fund
>> which purchases all 500 stocks listed in the Standard and Poor’s index.
>> When you buy a share of this fund, you are really buying a small amount of
>> each of the 500 stocks contained within the fund. Mutual funds are treated
>> exactly like e a single stock, both for tax purposes and in accounting.
> 
> 
> Firstly, the definition applies equally to Exchange Traded Funds and
> unlisted Managed Funds. Seems painful splitting the same stock exchange
> (workspace) into two types. Why differentiate between Account Type Stock
> and Mutual Fund?
> 
> Secondly, assuming there is good reason to split from Stock, why not use a
> more generic term "Fund" for Account Type instead of "Mutual Fund”?

Those choices were made early in GnuCash’s development by people who stopped 
contributing long ago. I don’t know why they made the choices they did; as you 
say, there’s no accounting difference between mutual funds and stocks, and 
there are lots of commodity types that don’t fit into either category. 
Unfortunately they made other design choices that deeply embed that choice into 
GnuCash’s data so changing it would be a lot of work and would require a data 
migration. It doesn’t seem to me to be worth the effort.

Regards,
John Ralls



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Re: [GNC] Australian Mutual Funds

2024-09-20 Thread John Ralls
That’s not correct. You can create a commodity for anything you like, and BTW 
you can create any number of namespaces to categorize your commodities.

Yes, “commodity” is an overloaded word in English. To market traders it means 
futures in some physical product: Sow bellies, wheat, steel. In GnuCash it 
means anything that you might account for that isn’t an official (meaning 
recognized by the ISO 4217 committee).

So, you want a namespace “Mutual Fund”? No problem. Open Tools>Security Editor. 
Click the Add button. Fill out the dialog box as shown in the first screenshot 
and click OK. On the Accounts tab click the New button and fill out the new 
account information, selecting either Stock or Mutual Fund for the Account 
Type, then click Select. If the new commodity is the only one you’ve got then 
that will be in the selection dialog as shown in the second screenshot.

This is all explained much more thoroughly in Chapter 9 of the Tutorial and 
Concepts Guide: 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_invest.html. See 
Chapter 11 for a thorough discussion of Capital Gains.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Sep 20, 2024, at 18:52, Megan Tilley  wrote:
> 
> I have done so (created the commodity in Tools>Security Editor) however, that 
> process only allows "Stocks" and not a Fund... so - confusion on my part.
> 
> I have obviously done the creation incorrectly as the 'new' list still does 
> not show the additions - snip of Security list and also Account list.
> 
> As I indicated - I believe that they should be Mutual Funds...
> 
> Commodity in Australia is a classification - a Stock fits in a Commodity 
> market place - Manufacturing, Property, etc.. So I think I need to add 
> "Property" somewhere.


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Re: [GNC] TXF

2024-09-20 Thread John Ralls
Yes, but only for users in the US. Alex Aycinena updates the US report every 
year to reflect the TXF changes for the previous year.
See 
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-guide/rpt_standardrpts.html#rpt_grp_miscrpts
 amd  
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v5/C/gnucash-manual/report-classes.html#report-regional.

There is also a TXF config and report for Germany but it hasn’t had substantive 
maintenance for 14 years and may no longer be useful.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Sep 20, 2024, at 09:19, Chris Miller via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks, 
> 
> Does GnuCash export data in TXF format for inclusion in tax preparation 
> software? This would require that I could label accounts according to their 
> IRS form and form line number. 
> 
> Thanks for the help, 
> -- 
> Chris. 
> 
> V:916.799.9461 
> F:916.974.0428 
> A: Because we read from top to bottom, left to right.
>Q: > Why should I start my reply below the quoted text? 
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Re: [GNC] Australian Mutual Funds

2024-09-20 Thread John Ralls
You must first create the commodity in Tools>Security Editor.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 20, 2024, at 03:16, Megan Tilley  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm trying to create an Australian Mutual Fund entry for my
> investments.
> 
> It is a combination Fund with a primary focus on Property.
> 
> When I create the Mutual Fund under my Broker Parent Account, I keep
> getting asked for a "Commodity" but I can not find where to input that,
> which would be  my "Property" component.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Megan In Sydney Australia
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Re: [GNC] Can't open saved .gnucash file

2024-09-19 Thread John Ralls
It looks like you left a report open and the option string saved in your state 
file has a bad value. The state file has the same name as your .gnucash file 
with a .gcm extension tacked on (i.e. “my-book.gnucash.gcm”) and is located in 
GNC_DATA_HOME/books (see 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#GNC_DATA_HOME for where 
GNC_DATA_HOME is on your system).

You can either delete or edit the state file. If you delete it you’ll lose all 
of your open tabs and UI customizations, so you’ll probably prefer to edit it. 
Open it in your favorite text editor (e.g. emacs, nano, vi) and go to the 
bottom. Each open window has a [Window N] section containing a [Page N] section 
for each open tab. Report tabs will have the PageType GncPluginPageReport. Find 
the one with an option value (1530334800 .  0) and delete it, renumbering the 
following [Page N] sections so that the numbering is consecutive. Save the file 
and start GnuCash.

Regards,
John Ralls



> On Sep 19, 2024, at 07:19, Chris Raesz via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> I recently had a desktop meltdown but I had my data backed up. I am using 
> Linux and gnucash version GnuCash 5.8, Build ID: 5.8+(2024-07-06)
> 
> When I try to open it, I get a message stating some other user has the file 
> locked. When I tell it to open read-only or open anyway, it crashes. My 
> command line attempts give me this:
> 
>   Backtrace:
>   In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 160: 6 [catch #t # ...]
>   In unknown file:
>   ?: 5 [apply-smob/1 #]
>   In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>   2412: 4 [save-module-excursion #   ice-9/eval-string.scm:65:9 ()>]
>   In ice-9/eval-string.scm:
>  44: 3 [read-and-eval # #:lang ...]
>  37: 2 [lp (let ((options #)) (let (#) (# option)) ...)]
>   In ice-9/eval.scm:
> 432: 1 [eval # #]
>   In unknown file:
>   ?: 0 [GncOption-set-value # (absolute
>   1530334800 . 0)]
> 
>   ERROR: In procedure GncOption-set-value:
>   ERROR: Wrong type (expecting exact integer): (1530334800 . 0)
> 
>   Some deprecated features have been used.  Set the environment
>   variable GUILE_WARN_DEPRECATED to "detailed" and rerun the
>   program to get more information. Set it to "no" to suppress
>   this message.
> 
> 
> What do I need to do to clear this lock issue??
> 
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Re: [GNC] Heidi still can't Edit company name.

2024-09-15 Thread John Ralls
Heidi,

Please remember to copy the list on all replies; the “reply all” button works 
well for this.

It’s an editable field. You can change the text just like any other editable 
field. Click the Apply or OK button to confirm your changes.

Regards,
John Ralls



> On Sep 15, 2024, at 17:10, halatch1008  wrote:
> 
> John,
>  YES, i do see that screen, but I am trying to EDIT the name of an existing 
> company. NOT ad a new one
> Heidi
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> 
> 
> ---- Original message 
> From: John Ralls 
> Date: 9/15/24 7:42 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: halatch1008 
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Heidi still can't Edit company name.
> 
> Do you not see this?
> Type the information into the blanks and click OK if you're done and Apply if 
> you're not. 
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 

> 

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Re: [GNC] Heidi still can't Edit company name.

2024-09-15 Thread John Ralls
Do you not see this?
Type the information into the blanks and click OK if you're done and Apply if 
you're not. 

Regards,
John Ralls



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Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote Evaluation Release 1.62_02

2024-09-15 Thread John Ralls
Bruce,

We're coming up on releasing GnuCash 5.9 in a couple of weeks. Will FQ 1.63 be 
released by then?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 1, 2024, at 2:34 PM, Bruce Schuck  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Finance::Quote 1.62_02 has been uploaded to CPAN. Not a production release, 
> it can be installed with:
> 
> cpan BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.62_02.tar.gz
> 
> Changes include:
> 
>  * Added FinanceAPI.pm - Requires API key from https://financeapi.net/. US 
> and other exchange data available.
>  * Fixed BVB.pm - Issue #409
>  * Fixed BSEIndia.pm - Issue #410 and removed Unzip as quotes file is now a 
> CSV file
>  * Fixed NSEIndia.pm - Issue #410
>  * Fixed NZX.pm - Issue #401
> 
> FinanceAPI basic free key allows 100 queries per day, at 300 per minute.
> 
> Bruce S
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Re: [GNC] Unique issue with 08/09/2024

2024-09-15 Thread John Ralls
Murugan,

This issue is usually a daylight time transition problem. What country do you 
live in? 

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 15, 2024, at 10:42 AM, Murugan Mariappan  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm experiencing a unique issue with GnuCash 5.8 on Windows 11. Whenever I 
> try to enter the date 08/09/2024 (in dd/mm/ format), it automatically 
> changes to 07/09/2024. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Saludos Cordiales
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Rounding issues with Stock

2024-09-13 Thread John Ralls
You can always replace the DRIP prices by retrieving online quotes after 
creating the transactions. You could also edit or delete the DRIP transaction 
prices in the price DB; it won’t have any effect on the transactions.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Sep 13, 2024, at 08:26, R Losey  wrote:
> 
> What Derek said.
> 
> Plus, the key important thing is that the number of shares and the money
> you actually spent are correct; these days (at least in the US), the
> brokerage is keeping track of correct prices.
> 
> I run into this with reinvested dividends, if the dividend amount is small
> and the stock price is relatively high... I can only buy a fraction of the
> stock, and those small amounts really throw off the price. But I've just
> learned to live with it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 10:13 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
>> The answer is "no".  And your Broker is lying to you.  There is no such
>> thing as $0.0036 so there is no "value" there.
>> 
>> You should record the 4.000 shares and total value of $105.95
>> 
>> Ignore the "price" difference.  It doesn't matter in the long run.  Even
>> if you are worried about the price basis, you're talking a difference of 4
>> x $0.0009 = $.0036.  The IRS will round to the nearest whole dollar, so,
>> in other words, this amount is irrelevant.
>> 
>> -derek
>> 
>> On Fri, September 13, 2024 10:55 am, NS wrote:
>>> Thanks for the answers. There is a difference when I look at GNU Cash and
>>> my broker, albeit small, is there.
>>> I was just wondering if there was a way to set it up differently.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 8:38 PM NS  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> First, let me tell you I am a recent user of GNUCash, and by no means I
>>>> am
>>>> a bookkeeper or know a lot about accounting.
>>>> I am using the tool to keep control of some stock I own.
>>>> 
>>>> Here is my issue.
>>>> I have a DRIP on the stock. My broker says the reinvested price of each
>>>> share was $26.4884, and they bought 4 shares for a total value of
>>>> $105.9536.
>>>> 
>>>> Now, I cannot enter four decimals in the buy (I do not know if it is a
>>>> setting), even though the price handles them.
>>>> When I recorded the transaction in GNUCash y entered 4 shares and a buy
>>>> of
>>>> $105.95 and a price of $26.4875 was calculated.
>>>> 
>>>> If I enter 4 shares and the price of $26.4884, it recalculates it to
>>>> $26.4875.
>>>> 
>>>> How do I solve this? I want to keep track of the correct numbers.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>> 
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Re: [GNC] Recommendations for hosting gnucash file - Google Drive, Microsoft 365, Local server?

2024-09-09 Thread John Ralls
That said, if you use the SQL backend with a server, i.e. mariadb/mysql or 
Postgres, you get password protection and database locking with much less 
latency than any file-sharing mashup provides. You do need to learn about the 
care and feeding of the server including ensuring that it’s secure if it’s 
exposed to the Internet, configuring users, and arranging for backups.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 9, 2024, at 07:16, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> The GnuCash team, historically, have explicitly decided that GnuCash leave
> encryption and other password protection to external tools and NOT perform
> it internally.  GnuCash is a financial tool, not a security tool.
> 
> -derek
> 
> On Mon, September 9, 2024 9:59 am, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote:
>> The security concerns beg the question, should GnuCash files be password
>> protected by the app?  It'd slow save and open a bit, but then you are
>> less worried about the files being snooped.
>> 
>> There are also ways to encrypt local files, and back up the encrypted
>> files to you network drive.  Just make sure you do not lose the password!
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Re: [GNC] How do I invoice a customer which he pays with billable services by him?

2024-08-30 Thread John Ralls
And to be very clear: GnuCash does *not* support barter. All transactions must 
be valued in an ISO-4217 currency.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 30, 2024, at 09:30, Brad Morrison  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael/GnuCash, 
> 
> https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420 - "Topic no. 420, Bartering income" 
> 
> ---
> Thanks, 
> 
> Brad - https://www.facebook.com/brad.morrison.12327/ &
> https://norcal.social/@BradMorrison 
> 
> On 2024-08-30 05:32, Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user wrote:
> 
>> On 8/29/2024 6:17 PM, Mark at Lorimark wrote: 
>> 
>>> (not an accountant)
>>> 
>>> That sounds like 'barter' which should probably not be on the books?
>> 
>> Not an accountant or tax advisor
>> 
>> Neither am I but see topic "402 Bartering Income" on the IRS site.
>> 
>> This one of the situations best NOT writing about an instance about because 
>> commonly "cheated on" if those engaged in barter are sure no auditing trail 
>> left behind. But here part of the exchange was in money.
>> 
>> LOL, decades ago we were visiting in an "end of the road" community that by 
>> government reckoning was extremely poor. Our hosts told us that poor, but 
>> not nearly as poor as in the gov't statistics because most of the local 
>> economic exchange was done by barter and  off the books. While there, the 
>> flutter valve in my Saab's fuel pump snapped. A local mechanic towed us a 
>> good distance to his shop, where in exchange for a shop manual for the car* 
>> (not expensive for me replace) and a small amount of cash** he took apart 
>> the fuel pump and hand cut a replacement flutter valve from a bit of 
>> aluminum sheet stock (after noting that the flip lib of a soda can was the 
>> same thickness as the snapped flutter valve) which worked well enough to get 
>> us hundreds of miles home. The total cost to me was a small fraction of what 
>> the tow, diagnosis, and repair would have cost me in the city. Our hosts 
>> felt we had been cheated!
>> 
>> Michael D Novack
>> 
>> * Not like comes with the car or a "Chiltens" but a full shop manual which I 
>> carried as at the time Saabs uncommon in many areas. This mechanic had 
>> shelves where he had shop manuals for as many as he could get a hold of, and 
>> hadn't yet one for Saab. Like I said, a real out of the way end of the road 
>> place.
>> 
>> ** In defense, the people of this community could scarcely comply with the 
>> IRS since the latter's evaluation of "fair market value" would not be taking 
>> into account the LOCAL "fair value". In other words, when goods/services 
>> were exchanged for money, that was a far smaller amount than "outside". 
>> Remember our host's feeling we had been cheated.
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Re: [GNC] Rounding issues with Stock

2024-08-26 Thread John Ralls
The issue here is rounding. GnuCash enforces a minimum fraction on all 
commodities. For most currencies that fraction is 1/100; a few, e.g. Japanese 
Yen, it’s 1/1. Most mutual funds have a minimum fraction of 1/1000, most stocks 
have fractions of 1/—though DRIP accounts will pretend to have fractional 
shares for accumulation purposes.

The remaining variable, Price, has no minimum fraction and has a resolution of 
1/9223372036854775808. If you enter the number of shares and the amount of 
currency (GnuCash designates that the value) and let GnuCash calculate the 
price there’s no need for rounding anything: The price will be exact. If you 
enter the price in any normal way and leave it to GnuCash to calculate the 
shares or the value then you have a good chance of forcing GnuCash to round the 
result because the computed amount or value will have a fraction whose 
denominator is smaller than the minimum for the commodity. 

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 26, 2024, at 17:55, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> GnuCash only maintains the number of shares and the total value.  The
> per-share price is /always/ computed.
> 
> When you are entering a transaction, GnuCash allows you to enter any two
> values and it will compute the third -- however it still only stores #
> shares and total value.
> 
> IANAA, but IMHO you should worry about the #shares and total value and
> don't worry about the rounding difference in the per-share price.
> 
> NB: GnuCash will not keep track of the $0.0036
> 
> -derek
> 
> On Mon, August 26, 2024 8:38 pm, NS wrote:
>> First, let me tell you I am a recent user of GNUCash, and by no means I am
>> a bookkeeper or know a lot about accounting.
>> I am using the tool to keep control of some stock I own.
>> 
>> Here is my issue.
>> I have a DRIP on the stock. My broker says the reinvested price of each
>> share was $26.4884, and they bought 4 shares for a total value of
>> $105.9536.
>> 
>> Now, I cannot enter four decimals in the buy (I do not know if it is a
>> setting), even though the price handles them.
>> When I recorded the transaction in GNUCash y entered 4 shares and a buy of
>> $105.95 and a price of $26.4875 was calculated.
>> 
>> If I enter 4 shares and the price of $26.4884, it recalculates it to
>> $26.4875.
>> 
>> How do I solve this? I want to keep track of the correct numbers.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
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Re: [GNC] booking period

2024-08-20 Thread John Ralls


> On Aug 20, 2024, at 15:22, Manfred Usselmann  wrote:
> 
> Am 2024-08-02 18:15, schrieb John Ralls:
>>> On Aug 2, 2024, at 00:13, Manfred Usselmann  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> It seems to me that the currently set accounting period is not saved in the 
>>> GnuCash file? I have different files for different periods and different 
>>> organizations and have to adjust the period every time I open another file. 
>>> Wouldn't it be a useful improvement to change this?
>> They are indeed user preferences, not part of the book. Yes, it would be a 
>> huge improvement to make it a book feature. It’s not a trivial change though 
>> and so far nobody has prioritized doing the work. Should anyone care to 
>> write it note that it will need to be guarded by a feature (see 
>> libgnucash/engine/gnc-features.h) and so will need two PRs: One to implement 
>> the engine and backend changes that make it readable for the stable branch 
>> and a second that moves the option from preferences to file properties and 
>> set the feature for the future branch.
> 
> Also the currency should be part of the book.
> 
> When I have some time...
> 
> For now I will create a shell script for every gnucash datafile which loads a 
> specific dconf file before starting GC and dumps the settings to it 
> afterwards…


The base currency *is* part of the book. It’s not visible in the UI except when 
creating a new file hierarchy. The currency preference is to set the default 
currency when running reports.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash.exe bootstrap error, image-missing.png: Unrecognized image file format (gdk-pixbuf-error-quark, 3)

2024-08-16 Thread John Ralls
A couple of other notes: In order to run gnucash.exe from 
c:\gcdev64\gnucash\stable\inst\bin you have to have 
c:\gcdev64\msys2\mingw32\bin in %PATH%. In order to start from Windows Explorer 
by double clicking you’d have to add it to your global %PATH% in 
Settings>System>Advanced>Environment (or something like that, I’m not on a 
Win32 box ATM so I can’t check). That’s probably not a good idea.

The MSYS2 terminal doesn’t process gdb’s stdout correctly, so I find it works 
better to run gdb in a Powershell window. You still need to add mingw32\bin to 
the path, but doing so in the powershell window affects only that instance not 
your whole system so it’s much safer.

I generally avoid the problem by bundling and installing GnuCash: Once 
installed it can run happily in Powershell without needing any PATH 
modifications. Bundling might also point up some more places where you’re 
getting a mingw64 library instead of a mingw32 one.

You also might want to rebuild GnuCash with -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug set so 
that you get source lines included in your backtraces.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 16, 2024, at 08:58, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Failing to load an icon is unlikely to cause GnuCash to quit or crash and 
> IIRC there’s one that was removed from awaita but still referenced by Gtk, 
> hence that error message. Try starting under gdb and setting a breakpoint on 
> exit() to get a backtrace of where it’s really quitting or crashing.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2024, at 22:06, Hai Liang Wang  wrote:
>> 
>> What I tried just now, but not work.
>> As mentioned in https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=261143
>> 
>> *update-mime-database /mingw32/share/mime*
>> 
>> *chmod -R 755 /mingw32/share/mime*
>> *gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache*
>> 
>> And start gnucash.exe again, I get the same error as above.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> Hai Liang W.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 12:53 PM Hai Liang Wang 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> hi, folks
>>> 
>>> After getting a build on my dev machine, I get *gnucash.exe* under
>>> *C:\gcdev64\gnucash\stable\inst\bin*.
>>> *But I cannot start by double click, nothing happens with double click.*
>>> So, I start it with mingw32 terminal, as below.
>>> 
>>> *Administrator@ZIHUATANEJO MINGW32 /c/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/bin*
>>> *# ./gnucash.exe*
>>> *This is a development version. It may or may not work.*
>>> *Report bugs and other problems to gnucash-de...@gnucash.org
>>> *
>>> *You can also lookup and file bug reports at https://bugs.gnucash.org
>>> <https://bugs.gnucash.org>*
>>> *To find the last stable version, please refer to https://www.gnucash.org/
>>> <https://www.gnucash.org/>*
>>> *3:2024/08/16
>>> 12-45-24:gwen(25272):C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gwenhywfar-5.11.2beta/src/base/i18n.c:
>>> 122: No translation found for WIN32 locale [English_United States.1252]*
>>> 
>>> *(gnucash.exe:25272): Gtk-WARNING **: 12:45:24.655: Could not load a
>>> pixbuf from icon theme.*
>>> *This may indicate that pixbuf loaders or the mime database could not be
>>> found.*
>>> 
>>> *Gtk:ERROR:../gtk+-3.24.43/gtk/gtkiconhelper.c:495:ensure_surface_for_gicon:
>>> assertion failed (error == NULL): Failed to load
>>> C:\gcdev64\msys2\mingw32\share\icons\AdwaitaLegacy\32x32/status\image-missing.png:
>>> Unrecognized image file format (gdk-pixbuf-error-quark, 3)*
>>> *Bail out!
>>> Gtk:ERROR:../gtk+-3.24.43/gtk/gtkiconhelper.c:495:ensure_surface_for_gicon:
>>> assertion failed (error == NULL): Failed to load
>>> C:\gcdev64\msys2\mingw32\share\icons\AdwaitaLegacy\32x32/status\image-missing.png:
>>> Unrecognized image file format (gdk-pixbuf-error-quark, 3)*
>>> 
>>> As you can see, something with gtk breaks the start.
>>> I checked
>>> *C:\gcdev64\msys2\mingw32\share\icons\AdwaitaLegacy\32x32/status\image-missing.png*,
>>> which exist. I can open this png file on Windows Explorer.
>>> 
>>> Need some help, thanks.
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> Hai Liang W.
>>> 
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash.exe bootstrap error, image-missing.png: Unrecognized image file format (gdk-pixbuf-error-quark, 3)

2024-08-16 Thread John Ralls
Failing to load an icon is unlikely to cause GnuCash to quit or crash and IIRC 
there’s one that was removed from awaita but still referenced by Gtk, hence 
that error message. Try starting under gdb and setting a breakpoint on exit() 
to get a backtrace of where it’s really quitting or crashing.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 15, 2024, at 22:06, Hai Liang Wang  wrote:
> 
> What I tried just now, but not work.
> As mentioned in https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=261143
> 
> *update-mime-database /mingw32/share/mime*
> 
> *chmod -R 755 /mingw32/share/mime*
> *gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --update-cache*
> 
> And start gnucash.exe again, I get the same error as above.
> 
> Cheers.
> Hai Liang W.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2024 at 12:53 PM Hai Liang Wang 
> wrote:
> 
>> hi, folks
>> 
>> After getting a build on my dev machine, I get *gnucash.exe* under
>> *C:\gcdev64\gnucash\stable\inst\bin*.
>> *But I cannot start by double click, nothing happens with double click.*
>> So, I start it with mingw32 terminal, as below.
>> 
>> *Administrator@ZIHUATANEJO MINGW32 /c/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/bin*
>> *# ./gnucash.exe*
>> *This is a development version. It may or may not work.*
>> *Report bugs and other problems to gnucash-de...@gnucash.org
>> *
>> *You can also lookup and file bug reports at https://bugs.gnucash.org
>> <https://bugs.gnucash.org>*
>> *To find the last stable version, please refer to https://www.gnucash.org/
>> <https://www.gnucash.org/>*
>> *3:2024/08/16
>> 12-45-24:gwen(25272):C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gwenhywfar-5.11.2beta/src/base/i18n.c:
>> 122: No translation found for WIN32 locale [English_United States.1252]*
>> 
>> *(gnucash.exe:25272): Gtk-WARNING **: 12:45:24.655: Could not load a
>> pixbuf from icon theme.*
>> *This may indicate that pixbuf loaders or the mime database could not be
>> found.*
>> 
>> *Gtk:ERROR:../gtk+-3.24.43/gtk/gtkiconhelper.c:495:ensure_surface_for_gicon:
>> assertion failed (error == NULL): Failed to load
>> C:\gcdev64\msys2\mingw32\share\icons\AdwaitaLegacy\32x32/status\image-missing.png:
>> Unrecognized image file format (gdk-pixbuf-error-quark, 3)*
>> *Bail out!
>> Gtk:ERROR:../gtk+-3.24.43/gtk/gtkiconhelper.c:495:ensure_surface_for_gicon:
>> assertion failed (error == NULL): Failed to load
>> C:\gcdev64\msys2\mingw32\share\icons\AdwaitaLegacy\32x32/status\image-missing.png:
>> Unrecognized image file format (gdk-pixbuf-error-quark, 3)*
>> 
>> As you can see, something with gtk breaks the start.
>> I checked
>> *C:\gcdev64\msys2\mingw32\share\icons\AdwaitaLegacy\32x32/status\image-missing.png*,
>> which exist. I can open this png file on Windows Explorer.
>> 
>> Need some help, thanks.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> Hai Liang W.
>> 
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Re: [GNC] CMake error, GnuCash can't be built with the DESTDIR environment variable set on Windows, build on MINGW32

2024-08-15 Thread John Ralls
DESTDIR flat doesn’t work on Windows because it prepends $DESTDIR to 
$CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX and the latter starts with a drive letter. See 
https://cmake.org/cmake/help/latest/envvar/DESTDIR.html.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 15, 2024, at 01:20, Hai Liang Wang  wrote:
> 
> Get some related info with
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=792884
> 
> So, I just
> checked C:\gcdev64\gnucash\stable\build\gnucash-git\share\glib-2.0\schemas
> on my machine.
> It contains files
> like, org.gnucash.GnuCash.deprecated.gschema.xml, gschemas.compiled, etc.
> 22 items totally and 283kb.
> 
> It seems the files are generated successfully.
> Not know how to get along with *DESTDIR*, which seems to be the root cause
> at my situation.
> 
> Cheers.
> Hai Liang W.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 4:08 PM Hai Liang Wang 
> wrote:
> 
>> hi, folks
>> 
>> Also near the end of build phases. The build command
>> `TARGET=gnucash-stable jhbuild -f jhbuildrc build ` now throw an error:
>> 
>> *-- Installing:
>> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/_jhbuild/root-gnucash-git/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/share/gnucash/pref_transformations.xml*
>> *CMake Error at gnucash/gschemas/cmake_install.cmake:72 (message):*
>> *  GnuCash can't be built with the DESTDIR environment variable set on
>> Windows*
>> *  (due to bad interference with glib-compile-schemas).*
>> *Call Stack (most recent call first):*
>> *  gnucash/cmake_install.cmake:92 (include)*
>> *  cmake_install.cmake:108 (include)*
>> 
>> 
>> *Compiling gschema files in
>> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/_jhbuild/root-gnucash-gitC:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/share/glib-2.0/schemas*
>> *Error opening directory
>> “C;C:\gcdev64\msys2\gcdev64\gnucash\stable\inst\_jhbuild\root-gnucash-gitC;C:\gcdev64\msys2\gcdev64\gnucash\stable\inst\share\glib-2.0\schemas”:
>> No such file or directory*
>> *-- Installing:
>> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/_jhbuild/root-gnucash-git/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/bin/gnucash.exe*
>> 
>> So, how to fix it?
>> I try to set *DESTDIR * in src\gnucash-on-windows.git\jhbuildrc, but it
>> fails to run the build commond, almost quit as soon as executing, get
>> nothing in trace.
>> What is the right approach to deal with *DESTDIR ?*
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Cheers.
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>> 
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Re: [GNC] Windows installer build failure, cmath error: 'copysign' has not been declared in '::' on MINGW32

2024-08-15 Thread John Ralls
_GLIBCXX_USE_C99_MATH_FUNCS replaced  _GLIBCXX_USE_C99_MATH_TR1 in gcc 14.1.0, 
see 
https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/commit/1f378f6dd33ad5067a437d1c456979f8662020d6

Formally I suppose it would be most correct to select which one to use with 
 // Avoid cmath missing function decl.
  #if.__GNUC__ < 14 || (__GNUC__ == 14  && __GNUC_MINOR__ < 1)
  #undef _GLIBCXX_USE_C99_MATH_TR1 
 #else
 #undef _GLIBCXX_USE_C99_MATH_FUNCS
  #endif

But it’s harmless to just undef both of them. Do you want to submit a PR so you 
get credit?

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Aug 14, 2024, at 23:50, Hai Liang Wang  wrote:
> 
> So far, I know more about the problem, but haven't find a solution yet.
> 
> `cmath:2106:11: error: 'copysign' has not been declared in '::'`, this link
> explain the error cause -
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1216878/cmath-functions-generating-compiler-error
> 
> And in, `gnucash\stable\src\gnucash-git\gnucash\gnucash-core-app.hpp`, it
> has
> 
> *#ifdef __MINGW32__*
> *#undef _GLIBCXX_USE_C99_MATH_TR1 // Avoid cmath missing function decl.*
> *#endif*
> 
> What happens in my machine, is that cmath's functions are missing, like
> *copysign.*
> 
> So, how to get rid of it?
> Need help, thanks.
> 
> Cheers.
> Hai Liang W.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 11:32 AM Hai Liang Wang 
> wrote:
> 
>> hi, folks
>> 
>> Run script `TARGET=gnucash-stable jhbuild -f jhbuildrc build` to build
>> windows installer, come to an error -
>> 
>> *gnucash.dir/gnucash-core-app.cpp.obj -c
>> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gnucash-git/gnucash/gnucash-core-app.cpp*
>> *In file included from
>> C:/gcdev64/msys2/mingw32/include/boost/core/cmath.hpp:19,*
>> * from
>> C:/gcdev64/msys2/mingw32/include/boost/lexical_cast/detail/converter_numeric.hpp:26,*
>> * from
>> C:/gcdev64/msys2/mingw32/include/boost/lexical_cast/try_lexical_convert.hpp:31,*
>> * from
>> C:/gcdev64/msys2/mingw32/include/boost/lexical_cast.hpp:33,*
>> * from
>> C:/gcdev64/msys2/mingw32/include/boost/program_options/value_semantic.hpp:14,*
>> * from
>> C:/gcdev64/msys2/mingw32/include/boost/program_options/options_description.hpp:13,*
>> * from
>> C:/gcdev64/msys2/mingw32/include/boost/program_options.hpp:15,*
>> * from
>> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gnucash-git/gnucash/gnucash-core-app.hpp:31,*
>> * from
>> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gnucash-git/gnucash/gnucash-core-app.cpp:32:*
>> *C:/gcdev64/msys2/mingw32/include/c++/14.2.0/cmath:2106:11: error:
>> 'copysign' has not been declared in '::'*
>> * 2106 |   using ::copysign;*
>> *  |   ^~~~*
>> *[124/131] Building CXX object
>> gnucash/CMakeFiles/gnucash.dir/gnucash.cpp.obj*
>> *FAILED: gnucash/CMakeFiles/gnucash.dir/gnucash.cpp.obj *
>> 
>> How to fix it?
>> Any suggestion is apprecaited.
>> 
>> Other version info:
>> 
>> *# g++ --version*
>> g++.exe (Rev1, Built by MSYS2 project) 14.2.0
>> Copyright (C) 2024 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
>> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>> 
>> *# pacman -Q|grep c++*
>> mingw-w64-i686-libc++ 18.1.8-1
>> 
>> *# pacman -Q|grep boost*
>> mingw-w64-i686-boost 1.85.0-4
>> 
>> 
>> Attached the full log.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> Hai Liang W.
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Error during phase build of gnucash-git: # Error running ninja, build on MINGW32

2024-08-14 Thread John Ralls
The actual error is 
[286/875] Generating gnucash.appdata.xml.in
FAILED: gnucash/gnome/gnucash.appdata.xml.in 
C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/build/gnucash-git/gnucash/gnome/gnucash.appdata.xml.in
 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /C "cd /D 
C:\gcdev64\gnucash\stable\build\gnucash-git\gnucash\gnome && 
C:\gcdev64\msys2\usr\bin\msgfmt.exe --xml --template 
C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gnucash-git/gnucash/gnome/gnucash.appdata.xml.in.in
 -d C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gnucash-git/po -o 
C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/build/gnucash-git/gnucash/gnome/gnucash.appdata.xml.in"
/usr/bin/msgfmt: cannot locate ITS rules for 
C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gnucash-git/gnucash/gnome/gnucash.appdata.xml.in.in

That’s a gettext problem, so make sure that you have both 
mingw-w64-i686-gettext-runtime and mingw-w64-i686-gettext-tools installed and 
that your path isn’t screwed up.

As a general note I’ve found that it’s more reliable to run 
buildserver\build_package.ps1 from a powershell window than jhbuild from a 
mingw32 terminal window.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 13, 2024, at 21:30, Hai Liang Wang  wrote:
> 
> hi, Folks
> 
> During running `TARGET=gnucash-stable jhbuild -f jhbuildrc build `, an
> error occurs and break the build.
> 
> Trace is in below.
> 
> *[298/875] Generating gnucash.desktop.in <http://gnucash.desktop.in>*
> *[299/875] Building CXX object
> libgnucash/backend/dbi/CMakeFiles/gncmod-backend-dbi.dir/gnc-backend-dbi.cpp.obj*
> *[300/875] Building CXX object
> common/test-core/CMakeFiles/gtest.dir/C_/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/googletest/googletest/src/gtest-all.cc.obj*
> *[301/875] Building CXX object
> libgnucash/engine/CMakeFiles/gnc-engine.dir/gnc-option.cpp.obj*
> *[302/875] Building CXX object
> bindings/guile/CMakeFiles/gnucash-guile.dir/swig-engine.cpp.obj*
> *[303/875] Building CXX object
> libgnucash/app-utils/CMakeFiles/gnc-app-utils.dir/gnc-quotes.cpp.obj*
> *ninja: build stopped: subcommand failed.*
> * [1m*** Error during phase build of gnucash-git: ## Error running
> ninja   *** [11/13] [m *
> 
> *  [1] Rerun phase build*
> 
> It seems near the last step to generate the installer.
> Hope some hints to fix it, thanks.
> 
> Full log is attached.
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> Hai Liang W.
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Re: [GNC] two instances on different books

2024-08-14 Thread John Layman via gnucash-user
There is no problem with having multiple instances of GnuCash running at the
same time.  I do so rather frequently for personal and business books.  My
wife and I are self-employed and transactions such as capital contributions
and draws or guaranteed distributions have related entries in both books.
Note, too, that it is a simple matter in Windows to create "shortcuts" that
launch GnuCash and specify the book to be opened.  And BTW, I don't believe
GnuCash restricts you to keeping all data files in one directory.  I happen
to do so, but frankly find all the complaining about clutter to be
ludicrous.  GnuCash names logs and backup files such that it is simple
matter to distinguish the wheat from the chaff (so to speak).  The amount of
backup to be retained is configurable, and DIY solutions to ostensible
clutter are trivial.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
On Behalf Of Brook Milligan via gnucash-user
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2024 11:36 AM
To: Ken Pyzik 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] two instances on different books


> On Aug 14, 2024, at 9:29 AM, Ken Pyzik  wrote:
>
> Just out of curiosity, what is the difference between what you are wanting
to do and just doing a FILE - OPEN - BOOK2 from a single instance?
>
> Seems to me that the only real difference is that when GnuCash opens, it
automatically opens the last book it was working from.  So, that being the
case, what you are suggesting is to make sure then when you open any
specific instance of GnuCash - that it is opening the specific book you want
(e.g., instance 1 opens Book 1 and Instance 2 opens Book 2).  Other than
that, I cannot see what purpose having two instances does.

Fair question.

I have a situation in which I have to manage a pair of books, one from the
perspective of each side of some of the transactions.  An example would be
if I am managing books for both a company and a customer, but in my case the
two entities are much more closely coupled than suggested by that example.
Because some (many) of the transactions must be entered in both books yet
refer to the same activity, I was thinking that having both open at once
would allow immediate checking that transactions match, simply by looking
from one window to the other.

If I cannot see (and work with) both at once, then the data entry/validation
process would be much more cumbersome.  (And yes, I fully understand the
need to know which window is which.)

Other solutions are welcome, of course, but this one seemed pretty
straightforward, at least barring any technical blocks.

Cheers,
Brook

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Re: [GNC] Fail to build gnucash on MINGW32, gwenhywfar compile error

2024-08-12 Thread John Ralls
The 5.10.2 build problem is the same root cause and is fixed with 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-on-windows/blob/master/patches/gwenhywfar-bug-274.patch.
 That patch is applied in 5.11.2beta but the AQBanking developer made the same 
mistake when he created the argivve backend plugin, requiring the second patch.

You have to change directory to 
c:\gcdev64\gnucash\stable\src\gwenhjywvar-5.11.2beta. Patches are applied with 
-p1 following git standard practice so the rest of the path is relative to the 
source directory.

There’s no such thing as mingw64.exe, but as long as you’re using the Mingw32 
(i686) environment installed when you ran setup-mingw64.ps1 you’ll be OK. The 
Mingw64 (x86_64) won’t work because there’s no webkitgtk package for it.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 11, 2024, at 23:09, Hai Liang Wang  wrote:
> 
> John, 
> 
> Thanks for your quick response, it's not the same root cause.
> I can not find the cardsdialog.c, provider_request.c as you mentioned.
> 
> The problem also exist on a previous version of gnucash modules, which 
> references gwenhywfar-5.10.2.tar.gz.
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-on-windows/blob/e9edf33a2dcd4cb03c6dc49730595d0e07c294d2/gnucash.modules
> 
> As I rollback gnucash module as running build against it.
> Same error happens on my machine.
> 
> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gwenhywfar-5.10.2/tools/gcttool/main.c: In 
> function 'main':
> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gwenhywfar-5.10.2/tools/gcttool/main.c:182:45: 
> error: passing argument 2 of 'GWEN_Gui_SetKeyDataFromTextOpen
> SslFn' from incompatible pointer type [-Wincompatible-pointer-types]
>   182 |   GWEN_Gui_SetKeyDataFromTextOpenSslFn(gui, 
> getKeyDataFromTextOpenSSL);
>   | ^
>   | |
>   | int (*)(GWEN_GUI *, const 
> char *, unsigned char *, unsigned int)
> In file included from 
> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gwenhywfar-5.10.2/tools/gcttool/main.c:37:
> ../../gwenhywfar5/gwenhywfar/gui_be.h:297:110: note: expected 
> 'GWEN_GUI_KEYDATAFROMTEXT_OPENSSL_FN' {aka 'int (__attribute__((stdcall)) *)
> (GWEN_GUI *, const char *, unsigned char *, unsigned int)'} but argument is 
> of type 'int (*)(GWEN_GUI *, const char *, unsigned char *, un
> signed int)'
>   297 |   
>GWEN_GUI_KEYDATAFROMTEXT_OPENSSL_FN f);
>   |   
>^
> make[3]: *** [Makefile:653: main.o] Error 1
> make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> 
> Note, this time, I switch to mingw64.exe,  my mingw64 is based on 
> msys2-base-i686,
> 
> Cheers.
> Hai Liang W.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 12:57 PM John Ralls  <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
>> That’s https://aquamaniac.de/rdm/issues/306. Apply this patch:
>> 
>> 
>> --- a/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/cardsdialog.c 2024-04-28 
>> 06:54:15.0 -0700
>> +++ b/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/cardsdialog.c 2024-06-22 
>> 14:32:30.624058500 -0700
>> @ -57,7 +57,7 @
>> 
>> -void _freeData(void *bp, void *p)
>> +void GWENHYWFAR_CB _freeData(void *bp, void *p) {
>> AG_CARDS_DIALOG *xdlg;
>> 
>> @ -88,7 +88,7 @
>> 
>> -int _dlgSignalHandler(GWEN_DIALOG *dlg, GWEN_DIALOG_EVENTTYPE t, const char 
>> *sender)
>> +int GWENHYWFAR_CB _dlgSignalHandler(GWEN_DIALOG *dlg, GWEN_DIALOG_EVENTTYPE 
>> t, const char *sender) {
>> switch (t) {
>> case GWEN_DialogEvent_TypeInit :
>> 
>> --- a/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/provider_request.c 2024-03-19 
>> 14:48:38.0 -0700
>> +++ b/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/provider_request.c 2024-06-22 
>> 14:34:01.041737100 -0700
>> @ -48,14 +48,14 @
>> 
>> -void _freeData(void *bp, void *p)
>> +void GWENHYWFAR_CB _freeData(void *bp, void *p) {
>> free(p);
>> }
>> 
>> -int _cbInitSyncIo(GWEN_HTTP_SESSION *sess, GWEN_SYNCIO *sio)
>> +int GWENHYWFAR_CB _cbInitSyncIo(GWEN_HTTP_SESSION *sess, GWEN_SYNCIO *sio) {
>> AG_HTTP_SESSION_HEADER *xsess;
>> 
>> --- a/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/userdialog.c 2024-01-07 
>> 11:29:43.0 -0800
>> +++ b/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/userdialog.c 2024-06-22 
>> 14:35:30.632390300 -0700
>> @ -42,7 +42,7 @
>> 
>> -void _freeData(void *bp, void *p)
>> +void GWENHYWFAR_CB _freeData(void *bp, void *p) {
>> }
>> 
>> @ -98,7 +98,7 @
>> 
>> -int

Re: [GNC] Fail to build gnucash on MINGW32, gwenhywfar compile error

2024-08-11 Thread John Ralls
That’s https://aquamaniac.de/rdm/issues/306. Apply this patch:


--- a/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/cardsdialog.c 2024-04-28 
06:54:15.0 -0700
+++ b/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/cardsdialog.c 2024-06-22 
14:32:30.624058500 -0700
@ -57,7 +57,7 @

-void _freeData(void *bp, void *p)
+void GWENHYWFAR_CB _freeData(void *bp, void *p) {
AG_CARDS_DIALOG *xdlg;

@ -88,7 +88,7 @

-int _dlgSignalHandler(GWEN_DIALOG *dlg, GWEN_DIALOG_EVENTTYPE t, const char 
*sender)
+int GWENHYWFAR_CB _dlgSignalHandler(GWEN_DIALOG *dlg, GWEN_DIALOG_EVENTTYPE t, 
const char *sender) {
switch (t) {
case GWEN_DialogEvent_TypeInit :

--- a/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/provider_request.c 2024-03-19 
14:48:38.0 -0700
+++ b/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/provider_request.c 2024-06-22 
14:34:01.041737100 -0700
@ -48,14 +48,14 @

-void _freeData(void *bp, void *p)
+void GWENHYWFAR_CB _freeData(void *bp, void *p) {
free(p);
}

-int _cbInitSyncIo(GWEN_HTTP_SESSION *sess, GWEN_SYNCIO *sio)
+int GWENHYWFAR_CB _cbInitSyncIo(GWEN_HTTP_SESSION *sess, GWEN_SYNCIO *sio) {
AG_HTTP_SESSION_HEADER *xsess;

--- a/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/userdialog.c 2024-01-07 
11:29:43.0 -0800
+++ b/src/libs/plugins/backends/aqgivve/userdialog.c 2024-06-22 
14:35:30.632390300 -0700
@ -42,7 +42,7 @

-void _freeData(void *bp, void *p)
+void GWENHYWFAR_CB _freeData(void *bp, void *p) {
}

@ -98,7 +98,7 @

-int _dlgSignalHandler(GWEN_DIALOG *dlg, GWEN_DIALOG_EVENTTYPE t, const char 
*sender)
+int GWENHYWFAR_CB _dlgSignalHandler(GWEN_DIALOG *dlg, GWEN_DIALOG_EVENTTYPE t, 
const char *sender) {
switch (t) {
case GWEN_DialogEvent_TypeInit :

Regards,

John Ralls




> On Aug 11, 2024, at 20:04, Hai Liang Wang  wrote:
> 
> Hi, folks
> 
> After reading guide with https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_on_Windows,
> I setup MINGW32 on my windows to build gnuash from sourcecodes.
> 
> *Command I use to build binary installer.*
> 
> cd /c/gcdev64/src/gnucash-on-windows.git
> 
> TARGET=gnucash-stable jhbuild -f jhbuildrc build --nodeps
> 
> *Come to below error:*
> 
> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gwenhywfar-5.11.2beta/tools/gcttool/main.c:
> In function 'main':
> *C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gwenhywfar-5.11.2beta/tools/gcttool/main.c:182:45:
> error: passing argument 2 of 'GWEN_Gui_SetKeyDataFromTextOpenSslFn' from
> incompatible pointer type [-Wincompatible-pointer-types]*
> *  182 |   GWEN_Gui_SetKeyDataFromTextOpenSslFn(gui,
> getKeyDataFromTextOpenSSL);*
> *  |
> ^*
> *  | |*
> *  | int (*)(GWEN_GUI *,
> const char *, unsigned char *, unsigned int)*
> *In file included from
> C:/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/src/gwenhywfar-5.11.2beta/tools/gcttool/main.c:37:*
> *../../gwenhywfar5/gwenhywfar/gui_be.h:297:110: note: expected
> 'GWEN_GUI_KEYDATAFROMTEXT_OPENSSL_FN' {aka 'int (__attribute__((stdcall))
> *)(GWEN_GUI *, const char *, unsigned char *, unsigned int)'} but argument
> is of type 'int (*)(GWEN_GUI *, const char *, unsigned char *, unsigned
> int)'*
> *  297 |
>  GWEN_GUI_KEYDATAFROMTEXT_OPENSSL_FN f);*
> *  |
>  ^*
> *make[3]: *** [Makefile:653: main.o] Error 1*
> make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> libtool: link: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wall -Wall -o .libs/cttest.exe cttest.o
> -L/c/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/lib -L/c/gcdev64/msys2/mingw32/lib
> -L/usr/lib ../../src/.libs/libgwenhywfar.dll.a -L/mingw32/lib -lgpg-error
> -lgcrypt -lgnutls -lwsock32 -lintl -liconv -pthread
> -L/c/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/inst/lib
> make[3]: Leaving directory
> '/c/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/build/gwenhywfar-5.11.2beta/tools/gcttool'
> make[2]: *** [Makefile:524: all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> '/c/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/build/gwenhywfar-5.11.2beta/tools'
> make[1]: *** [Makefile:793: all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory
> '/c/gcdev64/gnucash/stable/build/gwenhywfar-5.11.2beta'
> make: *** [Makefile:613: all] Error 2
> *** Error during phase build of gwenhywfar: ## Error running make
> -j 17  *** [3/14]
> 
>  [1] Rerun phase build
>  [2] Ignore error and continue to install
>  [3] Give up on module
> 
> *Environtment,* check out mingw32.package-installed.txt
> 
> Pls help, thanks.
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> Hai Liang W.
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Re: [GNC] Transfer to new PC

2024-08-11 Thread John Ralls
And see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup for what files you need to copy 
over.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 11, 2024, at 09:00, Mark at Lorimark  
> wrote:
> 
> (not sure)
> 
> I think if you hit "Help-> About" it will display the paths that are in use.
> 
> ~mark petryk
> ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com
> 
> On 8/11/24 10:09, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have a Lenovo with Windows 10, with GNUCash, I want to change GNUCash and 
>> current files to a Lenovo Windows 11.
>> Any pointers to how and where?
>> Finbar
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Re: [GNC] Move working files

2024-08-10 Thread John Ralls


> On Aug 10, 2024, at 09:45, R Losey  wrote:
> 
> I haven't done a lot of customization with my GnuCash system.
> 
> My data file - MyData.gnucash is in the same directory as what I call the
> "working" files -- the MyData.gnucash..gnucash and the
> MyData.gnucash..log files.
> 
> Is there some way that these working files can be created in a separate
> directory?
> 
> I am backing up the GnuCash data directory, but in reality, all I really
> need to backup is my GnuCash file - all of these working files are just
> taking up space on the backup media.
> 
> Note: I have GnuCash set to trim the files after a certain number of days,
> but the files are (naturally) not deleted from the backup material, so it
> has files back to when I started the backup.

Extra backups is never a bad thing. ;-)

That said, you could tune your backup program to exclude the backup and log 
files or you could switch to the SQLite3 backend that modifies the data file in 
place and so doesn’t make backup files (which are really the previous XML file 
renamed with the timestamp). In the latter case you’d still have the log files. 
There’s at present there’s no way to tell GnuCash to move the previous XML file 
to another directory nor to write the log files to another directory.

Regards,
John Ralls



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Re: [GNC] Error When Running GnuCash on Windows 11

2024-08-10 Thread John Ralls



> On Aug 10, 2024, at 08:51, Glenn Heatwole  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> After installing GnuCash 5.6 on Windows 11, it throws the following error 
> when starting GnuCash.
> 
> 
> gnucash.exe Entry Point Not Found
> 
> the procedure entry point inflateValidate could not be located in the dynamic 
> link library C: Program Files(x86)\gnucash\bin\libpng 16-16.dll
> 
> 
> Any ideas on what might be wrong or what we should try?

There was a packaging error in the original gnucash-5.6.setup.exe that was 
fixed with gnucash-5.6-1.setup.exe so make sure that you got the right 
installer.

The current release is GnuCash 5.8 so you could install that instead.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Consistent way to hang Gnucash

2024-08-06 Thread John Ralls
Michael,

Michael,

Lifelines. Wow. I learned a lot about the importance of not atomizing genealogy 
data and so losing the context from Tom Wetmore in the list discussions about 
the Gentech model when that came out. He was also a big help in shaping 
FamilySearch’s gedcomX standard 12 years ago.
I just had a brief browse through 
https://github.com/lifelines/lifelines/tree/master. Looks like it was still 
being maintained until a couple of years ago. It’s an antiquated design that 
does a lot of stuff that was necessary in 1991 but bad practice by 1999 when 
Tom quit working on it. Too bad nobody’s given it the thorough overhaul it 
needs. Even so modern OS design makes it pretty unlikely that it could cause 
another program, never mind macOS, to crash. 

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Aug 5, 2024, at 09:41, Michael Hendry  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, John,
> 
> I’ve tried and failed to reproduce the problem starting from the .gnucash 
> file I’d saved from before the crash.
> 
> My Mac had been running for several days with a lot of open apps, and it was 
> around this time the Mac OS shut itself down and rebooted a couple of times 
> for no apparent reason. I had been making extensive use of an open-source 
> genealogy program from the 1980s called LifeLines, which required extensive 
> modification for 64-bit operation. I suppose it’s possible that it was 
> responsible.
> 
> I’ll upgrade to 5,8, and keep my eyes open for trouble.
> 
> Michael
> 
>> On 3 Aug 2024, at 17:54, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> Michael,
>> 
>> No problem, life happens. If you have time please try to reproduce the crash 
>> and hang with the current 5.8 release. As usual the more detail you can 
>> provide to help me reproduce the problem the more likely it is that I’ll be 
>> able to  figure it out and fix it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2024, at 06:04, Michael Hendry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, John,
>>> 
>>> I failed to follow-through on this because of family illness. I did get as 
>>> far as taking a backup of the Gnucash file from before the crash, so if 
>>> it’s still relevant I can make time to experiment with it, but I see there 
>>> were some problems with a more recent release, and it may be water under 
>>> the bridge now.
>>> 
>>> Please let me know if it’s still worth reporting.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Jun 2024, at 17:41, John Ralls  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think you should open bugs for the crash and the hang, though I’m not 
>>>> sure that I can easily fix either of them.
>>>> 
>>>> The crash is clearly a call to g_strdup() with a nullptr, but I can’t 
>>>> figure out from the stack trace where that might be.
>>>> 
>>>> For the hang I take it that you’ve killed to two instances of GnuCash and 
>>>> started over, but from this letter that you can reliably reproduce the 
>>>> hang. I can’t with a simple book and a simple SX, so I’ll need more 
>>>> detail. It would be helpful if you can attach a spindump (select GnuCash 
>>>> in ActivityMonitor, in the toolbar click the circle with … in it and 
>>>> select Spindump from the resulting context menu) to the bug report.f
>>>> 
>>>> Are you closing the Scheduled Transaction Editor tab between uses or just 
>>>> clicking different SXes to edit?  While I’m able to edit two SXes at once 
>>>> it doesn’t seem from your description that that’s what you’re doing.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 23, 2024, at 08:12, Michael Hendry  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Further to my recent crash report:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Start to reconcile a bank account.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Edit a pension payment during reconciliation because the regular payment 
>>>>> has gone up
>>>>> 
>>>>> Open the Scheduled Transaction editor and adjust for new payment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Go on with the reconciliation until the next pension increase prompts the 
>>>>> editing of a payment
>>>>> 
>>>>> Try to open the Scheduled Transaction editor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Work-around: Make a note of adjustments needed to Scheduled Transactions, 
>>>>> and deal with them after the reconciliation is complete.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 
>&g

Re: [GNC] Consistent way to hang Gnucash

2024-08-06 Thread John Ralls
Michael,

I am, though not as long as you or your dad. I didn’t get serious about it 
until the late 90s. Neither of my children are interested either. On the rare 
occasions I find time I’m also working on getting my family history work 
written up on WikiTree: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ralls-240

I’m impressed with your father’s diligence. He’s the first I’ve heard of who 
tried to use punch cards to keep track of genealogy research.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 5, 2024, at 12:29, Michael Hendry  wrote:
> 
> Are you a genealogy addict too, John?
> 
> My late father was shown a tablet stone in the Old Portpatrick churchyard by 
> his grandfather when he was a teenager. This took his ancestry back to one 
> Thomas Margbanks (b abt 1567 d Aug 1637, and he was hooked for life.
> 
> I built a Nascom 2 Z80 machine in 1979, with Microsoft BASIC and a cassette 
> tape drive, and by the time my dad retired in 1981 I had installed disc 
> drives and had managed to get CP/M running on it, including a copy of dBase 
> II. By this time he was finding the management of his data very cumbersome, 
> and was in touch with the manager of the mainframe belonging to the local 
> council in Morayshire, which he was allowed to use out-of-ours to process the 
> punched cards he stored his family tree on. I wrote dBase programs to enter, 
> store and process data in the same format as the punched cards, showed my 
> father how to use it, and left him in charge of feeding the goldfish and 
> other pets while we were away with the kids in the Mediterranean. By the time 
> we got back he’d got hundreds of individuals into the database, but the 
> goldfish died! By the time of his death in 2002 he’d gone from CP/M on 
> Nascom, to CP/M on a machine called Matmos, and finally to Relativity on 
> MS/DOS, from which I extracted the files in GEDCOM format to upload and 
> manage in LifeLines.
> 
> It’s clear that my children are unlikely to follow me down the geekish trail 
> to LifeLines, and I wss looking for something more user-friendly. During 
> lockdown I came across WikiTree, and I’ve been steadily transferring several 
> thousand individuals’ details, mostly using FamilySearch to collect the 
> necessary source citations, along with FindAGrave and other free-to-access 
> services.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael
> 
>> On 5 Aug 2024, at 19:19, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> Michael,
>> 
>> Michael,
>> 
>> Lifelines. Wow. I learned a lot about the importance of not atomizing 
>> genealogy data and so losing the context from Tom Wetmore in the list 
>> discussions about the Gentech model when that came out. He was also a big 
>> help in shaping FamilySearch’s gedcomX standard 12 years ago.
>> I just had a brief browse through 
>> https://github.com/lifelines/lifelines/tree/master. Looks like it was still 
>> being maintained until a couple of years ago. It’s an antiquated design that 
>> does a lot of stuff that was necessary in 1991 but bad practice by 1999 when 
>> Tom quit working on it. Too bad nobody’s given it the thorough overhaul it 
>> needs. Even so modern OS design makes it pretty unlikely that it could cause 
>> another program, never mind macOS, to crash. 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2024, at 09:41, Michael Hendry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, John,
>>> 
>>> I’ve tried and failed to reproduce the problem starting from the .gnucash 
>>> file I’d saved from before the crash.
>>> 
>>> My Mac had been running for several days with a lot of open apps, and it 
>>> was around this time the Mac OS shut itself down and rebooted a couple of 
>>> times for no apparent reason. I had been making extensive use of an 
>>> open-source genealogy program from the 1980s called LifeLines, which 
>>> required extensive modification for 64-bit operation. I suppose it’s 
>>> possible that it was responsible.
>>> 
>>> I’ll upgrade to 5,8, and keep my eyes open for trouble.
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>>> On 3 Aug 2024, at 17:54, John Ralls  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Michael,
>>>> 
>>>> No problem, life happens. If you have time please try to reproduce the 
>>>> crash and hang with the current 5.8 release. As usual the more detail you 
>>>> can provide to help me reproduce the problem the more likely it is that 
>>>> I’ll be able to  figure it out and fix it.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 3, 2024, at 06:04, Michael Hendry  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>

Re: [GNC] Consistent way to hang Gnucash

2024-08-03 Thread John Ralls
Michael,

No problem, life happens. If you have time please try to reproduce the crash 
and hang with the current 5.8 release. As usual the more detail you can provide 
to help me reproduce the problem the more likely it is that I’ll be able to  
figure it out and fix it.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Aug 3, 2024, at 06:04, Michael Hendry  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, John,
> 
> I failed to follow-through on this because of family illness. I did get as 
> far as taking a backup of the Gnucash file from before the crash, so if it’s 
> still relevant I can make time to experiment with it, but I see there were 
> some problems with a more recent release, and it may be water under the 
> bridge now.
> 
> Please let me know if it’s still worth reporting.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael
> 
>> On 23 Jun 2024, at 17:41, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> I think you should open bugs for the crash and the hang, though I’m not sure 
>> that I can easily fix either of them.
>> 
>> The crash is clearly a call to g_strdup() with a nullptr, but I can’t figure 
>> out from the stack trace where that might be.
>> 
>> For the hang I take it that you’ve killed to two instances of GnuCash and 
>> started over, but from this letter that you can reliably reproduce the hang. 
>> I can’t with a simple book and a simple SX, so I’ll need more detail. It 
>> would be helpful if you can attach a spindump (select GnuCash in 
>> ActivityMonitor, in the toolbar click the circle with … in it and select 
>> Spindump from the resulting context menu) to the bug report.f
>> 
>> Are you closing the Scheduled Transaction Editor tab between uses or just 
>> clicking different SXes to edit?  While I’m able to edit two SXes at once it 
>> doesn’t seem from your description that that’s what you’re doing.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2024, at 08:12, Michael Hendry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Further to my recent crash report:
>>> 
>>> Start to reconcile a bank account.
>>> 
>>> Edit a pension payment during reconciliation because the regular payment 
>>> has gone up
>>> 
>>> Open the Scheduled Transaction editor and adjust for new payment.
>>> 
>>> Go on with the reconciliation until the next pension increase prompts the 
>>> editing of a payment
>>> 
>>> Try to open the Scheduled Transaction editor.
>>> 
>>> Work-around: Make a note of adjustments needed to Scheduled Transactions, 
>>> and deal with them after the reconciliation is complete.
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> Version Numbers here:
>>> 
>>> Process:   Gnucash [48185]
>>> Path:  /Applications/Gnucash 2.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash
>>> Identifier:org.gnucash.Gnucash
>>> Version:   5.5-1 (5.5-1)
>>> Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
>>> Parent Process:launchd [1]
>>> User ID:   501
>>> 
>>> Date/Time: 2024-06-23 08:10:26.9458 +0100
>>> OS Version:macOS 14.5 (23F79)
>>> Report Version:12
>>> Bridge OS Version: 8.5 (21P5077)
>>> Anonymous UUID:F889FA2B-0F71-CD50-6275-EA85633D47E5
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Re: [GNC] Consistent way to hang Gnucash

2024-08-03 Thread John Ralls
David,

Michael is on macOS and there are no macOS nightlies.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 3, 2024, at 08:30, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Go ahead and continue testing and reporting your findings.  I have created a 
> bug report 799381 for a different but possibly obliquely related bug which is 
> currently in limbo because the developers cannot duplicate my experience.  
> That report depends on testing the Windows nightly build dated July 19 or 
> later for bug 799370 to see if that bug is resolved.  If your bug is still 
> present, it deserves a new bug report.
> 
> Because of the complexity of the code there may still be some segments 
> causing subtle problems.  It would be desirable to test recent nightly builds 
> thoroly before release 5.9 comes out.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2024, 8:05 AM Michael Hendry  <mailto:hendry.mich...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Sorry, John,
>> 
>> I failed to follow-through on this because of family illness. I did get as 
>> far as taking a backup of the Gnucash file from before the crash, so if it’s 
>> still relevant I can make time to experiment with it, but I see there were 
>> some problems with a more recent release, and it may be water under the 
>> bridge now.
>> 
>> Please let me know if it’s still worth reporting.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> > On 23 Jun 2024, at 17:41, John Ralls > > <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > I think you should open bugs for the crash and the hang, though I’m not 
>> > sure that I can easily fix either of them.
>> > 
>> > The crash is clearly a call to g_strdup() with a nullptr, but I can’t 
>> > figure out from the stack trace where that might be.
>> > 
>> > For the hang I take it that you’ve killed to two instances of GnuCash and 
>> > started over, but from this letter that you can reliably reproduce the 
>> > hang. I can’t with a simple book and a simple SX, so I’ll need more 
>> > detail. It would be helpful if you can attach a spindump (select GnuCash 
>> > in ActivityMonitor, in the toolbar click the circle with … in it and 
>> > select Spindump from the resulting context menu) to the bug report.f
>> > 
>> > Are you closing the Scheduled Transaction Editor tab between uses or just 
>> > clicking different SXes to edit?  While I’m able to edit two SXes at once 
>> > it doesn’t seem from your description that that’s what you’re doing.
>> > 
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
>> > 
>> >> On Jun 23, 2024, at 08:12, Michael Hendry > >> <mailto:hendry.mich...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Further to my recent crash report:
>> >> 
>> >> Start to reconcile a bank account.
>> >> 
>> >> Edit a pension payment during reconciliation because the regular payment 
>> >> has gone up
>> >> 
>> >> Open the Scheduled Transaction editor and adjust for new payment.
>> >> 
>> >> Go on with the reconciliation until the next pension increase prompts the 
>> >> editing of a payment
>> >> 
>> >> Try to open the Scheduled Transaction editor.
>> >> 
>> >> Work-around: Make a note of adjustments needed to Scheduled Transactions, 
>> >> and deal with them after the reconciliation is complete.
>> >> 
>> >> Michael
>> >> 
>> >> Version Numbers here:
>> >> 
>> >> Process:   Gnucash [48185]
>> >> Path:  /Applications/Gnucash 2.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash 
>> >> <http://2.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash>
>> >> Identifier:org.gnucash.Gnucash
>> >> Version:   5.5-1 (5.5-1)
>> >> Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
>> >> Parent Process:launchd [1]
>> >> User ID:   501
>> >> 
>> >> Date/Time: 2024-06-23 08:10:26.9458 +0100
>> >> OS Version:macOS 14.5 (23F79)
>> >> Report Version:12
>> >> Bridge OS Version: 8.5 (21P5077)
>> >> Anonymous UUID:F889FA2B-0F71-CD50-6275-EA85633D47E5
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Re: [GNC] Bulk setup of accounts?

2024-08-02 Thread John Ralls



> On Aug 2, 2024, at 09:00, Bob Alei via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Noob here.  Trying to initialize my GnuCash.  I imported 7 months worth 
> of transactions to my checking account, wanting to initialize starting Jan 1, 
> 2024.  I didn't want to take the time during import to specify all the 
> transfer accounts so I thought I'd go ahead and import and do that afterward. 
>  So now I have a ton of imbalanced transactions.  I'm looking for a way to 
> initialize them efficiently, like the way it's done with the match account 
> tool in the import where you can select multiple transactions at once and 
> assign accounts or notes to all of them at once.  But I can't find any way to 
> "batch" assign accounts to transactions.  Going through them one at a time is 
> painful.  Is that the only way?

Yes, once the transactions are created they must be edited one at a time. The 
other way is to delete the file and start over. This time import a month at a 
time and use the match dialog. After 2 or 3 imports there will be enough match 
info for the matcher to start matching some of the transactions automatically.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] booking period

2024-08-02 Thread John Ralls


> On Aug 2, 2024, at 00:13, Manfred Usselmann  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> It seems to me that the currently set accounting period is not saved in the 
> GnuCash file? I have different files for different periods and different 
> organizations and have to adjust the period every time I open another file. 
> Wouldn't it be a useful improvement to change this?

They are indeed user preferences, not part of the book. Yes, it would be a huge 
improvement to make it a book feature. It’s not a trivial change though and so 
far nobody has prioritized doing the work. Should anyone care to write it note 
that it will need to be guarded by a feature (see 
libgnucash/engine/gnc-features.h) and so will need two PRs: One to implement 
the engine and backend changes that make it readable for the stable branch and 
a second that moves the option from preferences to file properties and set the 
feature for the future branch.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Splash Screen disabled?

2024-07-29 Thread John Layman via gnucash-user
Since GnuCash loads the entire file into memory (regardless of whether or not a 
DBMS is in use) it appears the duration of the splash screen display is related 
to that load time (note that a progress bar appears in the lower RH corner.)

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user  On 
Behalf Of R Losey
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2024 12:56 PM
To: Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Splash Screen disabled?

On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 9:34 AM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) <
stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> > On 7/26/2024 7:24 PM, Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) wrote:
> >> I have 4.14 in Windows 10 and 11. The splash screen appears, the 
> >> progress bar for opening the last previously used file fills in 
> >> from left to right, and when that's done the splash screen 
> >> disappears. The whole thing takes about two seconds. I suspect that 
> >> different times of seeing the splash screen are not due to 
> >> different minor versions of GC, but rather to running on machines 
> >> of different compute speed, possessing SSDs or traditional hard drives, 
> >> and so forth.
> >>
> On 2024-07-27 05:37, Michael or Penny Novack via gnucash-user wrote:
> > We just had a different instance of this problem (window appearance 
> > too > brief to see)
>
> I was not reporting a problem, but responding to David Carlson's 
> report reported that the splash screen for GHC 4.8 persisted for a 
> minute (!) on his machine.
>
> > This is why ALL such displays should at the end incorporate a delay 
> > before closing, one or two seconds, independent of computer speed 
> > (don't waste time in useless processing; use a system call to "sleep 
> > for X
> time).
>
> I don't agree. If the message, window, or whatever is worth seeing, it 
> should persist until the user dismisses it. A fixed display time is 
> going to annoy some (who just want to get on with their work) but its 
> information will be lost to others (who take their eyes off the screen 
> to pull papers from a file or pour a cup of coffee).
>
> And of course if it's not worth seeing, it shouldn't be displayed for 
> any amount of time, but rather written to the log file o perhaps the 
> trace file.


I don't agree; the purpose of a splash screen is to give immediate feedback 
that the selected program is starting, but not ready to be used.

I have worked with programs that don't give any feedback for a (relatively) 
long time, and I'm never certain if I mis-clicked or if the program died.

As a software engineer, some of our programs had human interaction 
requirements; one (rather old) was that any action taken by an operator had to 
provide some kind of feedback to the operator within three seconds...
for example, if the operator attempted to sort a large list, we had to put up a 
message or popup or something to indicate "Sorting (please wait)...".


A good splash screen should:
(1) show up immediately (as soon as possible) after the user starts the program
(2) Persist until the program is ready to interact with the user, and then go 
away.

Exceptional programs have an option to display or not display a splash screen.

And just to give another data point, my Win 10 box is the slowest; the splash 
screen is up for about 5-6 seconds. On my M1 iMac (using the Intel version), 
it's up for about 2-3 seconds. My Linux version doesn't get run as often, but I 
think it is up for about 2-3 seconds as well.


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Re: [GNC] Price quote fail popup too tall

2024-07-27 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 27, 2024, at 04:36, Fred Tydeman  wrote:
> 
> Today, when I tried to get stock price quotes, I got a popup
> Unable to retrieve quotes for these items:
>  very long list that is more than one screen
> 
> So, there is no way to get to the No/Yes items at the bottom of the popup.
> So, I clicked on the X at the top right of the popup to kill it.
> I assume that means none of the good quotes were saved.
> I also assume no damage was done to any data.
> 
> I tried a second time and the popup was shorter, so the No/Yes items
> were visible and clickable.

The quotes that could be retrieved should have been saved. The dialog about 
failed quotes is purely informational. How you dismiss it doesn’t change what 
the program does.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2024-07-20 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 20, 2024, at 04:19, Nate Bargmann  wrote:
> 
> * On 2024 19 Jul 18:50 -0500, John Ralls wrote:
>> As I said, I see that as a documentation issue. The column labels have
>> to be terse and we can’t use per-item tooltips in the long run because
>> the Gtk folks have pulled them from Gtk4. It’s not great that Geert
>> changed the headings for the amount columns from Deposit and
>> Withdrawal to Amount and Amount(negated) but forgot to change the
>> intro screen to reflect it.
> 
> If GTK4 is demonstrably worse for non-GNOME applications, why use it?
> Non-GNOME applications should remain on GTK3.  Time and time again GNOME
> people have insinuated that GTK is only intended for GNOME and not
> really for third party/independent applications.  I state this as one
> who dutifully ported a niche app from GTK2 to GTK3 and learned what a
> train wreck GTK4 is for such an app and am entirely discouraged about
> the future of GTK.
> 
> What was the rationale for changing column names from deposit/withdrawal
> to this ambiguous wording?  Already GNC's column layout is opposite of
> the manual check registers I've been using for 40+ years and that leads
> to mistakes in one or the other for me so the last thing that is needed
> is more ambiguity.
> 
> Apologies if I'm missing something by jumping in so late.

We had to switch to  Gtk3 because WebKitGtk stopped supporting Gtk2 and the 
Linux Distros aren’t going to hold an old version of WebKitGtk for GnuCash. 
That will happen with Gtk4 at some point. Since then we’ve been distributing 
GnuCash using flatpak, and that depends on the current or previous version of 
the Gnome runtime. The Gnome runtime maintainers could will sooner or later 
drop support for Gtk3 and they won’t tell us in advance.

For CSV import  “Deposit” and “Withdrawal” were no less ambiguous than “Amount” 
and “Amount (negated)”. The former make sense if and only if your bank’s CSV 
exports have both a debit and credit column (usually backwards to your own 
books) and neither is signed. Many banks don’t: They export a single column of 
signed numbers. Sometime the signs match up with what GnuCash wants (+ is 
debit, - is credit), sometimes they’re the other way around. Other banks will 
use two columns but will put - signs on one of the columns. After some time 
wrestling with how to deal with all of the variations Geert settled on using 
Amount for an amount column where the sign matches what GnuCash expects and 
Amount (negated) for an amount column where the sign is reversed to what 
GnuCash expects.

Check registers and reports from banks are nearly always oriented towards the 
bank’s viewpoint, where your account is a liability. GnuCash is about 
accounting from your viewpoint where your bank account is an asset. If you’re 
not interested in formal bookkeeping from your viewpoint it doesn’t make sense 
for you to use GnuCash. A personal finance manager program like KMyMoney would 
work better for you.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2024-07-19 Thread John Ralls
As I said, I see that as a documentation issue. The column labels have to be 
terse and we can’t use per-item tooltips in the long run because the Gtk folks 
have pulled them from Gtk4. It’s not great that Geert changed the headings for 
the amount columns from Deposit and Withdrawal to Amount and Amount(negated) 
but forgot to change the intro screen to reflect it.

The import dialog also lacks a help button. OTOH the context help is so clunky 
I wonder if anyone would use it. Would you?
Even if you would the actual documentation for importing CSV doesn’t explain 
all of the column headers and still says Deposit and Withdrawal.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jul 19, 2024, at 09:22, Greg Julius  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, I really struggled with this to figure out what was wrong with my 
> imports.  There is a Commodity field and there is a Currency field.  I had to 
> repeatedly fill in fields until I found the issue was Currency.
> 
> I also think all of you that help/develop this product do a great job.  
> 
> Blessings,
> -greg
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user 
> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+fromvendor=outtacyte@gnucash.org] On Behalf 
> Of John Ralls
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2024 10:40 AM
> To: flywire
> Cc: Gnucash Users
> Subject: Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2024, at 00:10, flywire  wrote:
>> 
>>> 2. An error message displayed "You must choose a commodity" is wrong and 
>>> should be "You must choose a Security/currency" Choose AUD
>> 
> 
> That’s too narrow an interpretation of “commodity”. Both securities and 
> currencies are commodities, but for example widgets are commodities but are 
> neither securities nor currencies. The error message is correct, what’s 
> apparently lacking is communicating to users the meaning of “commodity”. 
> We’re also guilty of mixed messaging because we call the tool that manages 
> commodities the Security Editor. Both are a larger problem than an error 
> dialog in the CSV importer.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2024-07-19 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 19, 2024, at 00:10, flywire  wrote:
> 
>> 1. The account separators are not recognised and replaced by -. Manually 
>> parse the accounts at ":”.

Which is falsified by your screenshot that clearly shows the imported 
transaction with long account names sporting their ‘:’ separators.

If you have an actual, reproducible problem please file a new bug and attach a 
sample empty gnucash file and CSV file demonstrating the import failure. Don’t 
reopen randomly-selected bugs that happen to be on the same component that 
you’re having a problem with.

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Re: [GNC] gnucash ARM crashes on delete account

2024-07-19 Thread John Ralls
GnuCash Arm 5.8-2 is really 5.8 and aside from what architecture it’s compiled 
for it’s no different from any other build of GnuCash 5.8. If you do find a 
crash where manipulating the account tree crashes please reopen 
https://bugs.gnucash.org/showbug.cgi?id=799370 and attach your crash report.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 19, 2024, at 07:11, Mark Cochran  wrote:
> 
> On 2024-07-18 10:07, Mark Cochran wrote:
>> On 2024-07-17 11:31, Mark Cochran wrote:
>>> I'm trying out the Apple Silicone version of gnucash (download file named 
>>> Gnucash-Arm-5.8-1.dmg, but "About Gnucash" says 5.7).
>>> I'm trying to delete an Expense account with no transactions and no 
>>> children.  Gnucash crashes immediately.  Here's the trace file:
>>> 
>>> $ cat /var/folders/c_/nh7z_czx12s5sfypbtt9k1jhz8/T//gnucash.trace
>>> * 11:21:27 ERROR  gtk_tree_model_filter_convert_iter_to_child_iter: 
>>> assertion 'valid == TRUE' failed
>>> * 11:21:27 ERROR  gtk_tree_model_filter_convert_iter_to_child_iter: 
>>> assertion 'valid == TRUE' failed
>>> * 11:21:27 ERROR  gnc_tree_model_account_get_account: assertion 
>>> 'iter->user_data != NULL' failed
>>> * 11:21:27 ERROR  gnc_tree_model_account_get_value: assertion 
>>> 'iter->user_data != NULL' failed
>>> * 11:21:27 ERROR  ../../src/glib-2.80.2/gobject/gtype.c:4393: 
>>> type id '0' is invalid
>>> * 11:21:27 ERROR  can't peek value table for type '' 
>>> which is not currently referenced
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am able to successfully delete the account with the MacOS Intel 5.8.2 
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> I can post the trace file in debug mode if needed, but that's close to 
>>> 15,000 lines long.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark Cochran
>>> remarkable...@gmail.com
>>> 
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>> indeed gnucash 5.7, this behavior may be related to the account re-parenting 
>> issue.  I'll wait for the 5.8 version and try again.
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash getting worse?

2024-07-19 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 19, 2024, at 00:10, flywire  wrote:
> 
>> 2. An error message displayed "You must choose a commodity" is wrong and 
>> should be "You must choose a Security/currency" Choose AUD
> 

That’s too narrow an interpretation of “commodity”. Both securities and 
currencies are commodities, but for example widgets are commodities but are 
neither securities nor currencies. The error message is correct, what’s 
apparently lacking is communicating to users the meaning of “commodity”. We’re 
also guilty of mixed messaging because we call the tool that manages 
commodities the Security Editor. Both are a larger problem than an error dialog 
in the CSV importer.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Announcement: GnuCash 5.8 For Apple Silicon

2024-07-18 Thread John Ralls
I've corrected my build and packaged GnuCash 5.8 this time.
SHA256: d3f24a955547d30fa4116252d1bc35247117b6449cdedf51236b502f294cb436
Downloads:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/files/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-2.dmg/download
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-2.dmg

Sorry for the inconvenience, but everyone who got Tuesday's bundle should 
replace it with this one.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jul 17, 2024, at 5:35 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> It definitely is 5.7, complete with the crash if you try to re-parent an 
> account. It looks like I never pushed the 5.8 commit for gnucash-on-osx so I 
> didn’t build what I thought I did. I’ll have another go at it tomorrow.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 21:49, William Prescott  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16 Jul 2024, at 22:45, William Prescott  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you, thank you.
>> 
>> I was going to say the same thing. It is really quick opening, about the 
>> only thing I have done with it so far. But it does say it is a 5.7 version.
>> 
>> Version: 5.7
>> Build ID: 5.7+(2024-06-29)
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> Will
>> 
>> On 16 Jul 2024, at 17:51, David Reiser via gnucash-user 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wonderful news. Thank you. It is noticeably faster. But the splash screen 
>> says it’s 5.7
>> --
>> Dave Reiser
>> dbrei...@icloud.com <mailto:dbrei...@icloud.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 19:37, John Ralls >> <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We're pleased to announce that thanks to some brilliant deceptive work on 
>>> the part of our colleague known here as Sherlock we're able to package 
>>> GnuCash as a native Apple Silicon application bundle.
>>> 
>>> Downloads:
>>> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-1.dmg
>>> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-1.dmg
>>> 
>>> The sha-256 hash is 
>>> 3b736455e7c2f26324f4968c475bb1b858e243269fdcb676091fa99b51cd7e98 and it is 
>>> notarized by Apple.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>> 
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Re: [GNC] New accounts don't show up in GC 5.8 under Flathub

2024-07-18 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 18, 2024, at 02:08, rsbrux via gnucash-user  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the tips. 
> I do have a 64-bit OS, which is why I left out “ flatpak --arch=x86_64” in 
> the commands that I executed.  I tried to make this clear in my post.  Sorry 
> that it wasn’t. 
> I am not familiar with downloading packages to install, especially in 
> flatpak. 
> I tried to follow your instructions, but when I try to install the downloaded 
> package, flatpak wants to also install org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Breeze 3.22.  I am 
> reluctant to do this, because Discover says that I already have version 6.13 
> installed in flatpak.
> You seem to have supplied the missing piece I was looking for in your post 
> below:
>> gnucash-stable-C5.8-20-ga84189b79d-D5.7-2-ge45aa63c.flatpakref
> but I am still confused. 
> The wiki suggests that a nightly build should contain “maint-“ rather than 
> “stable-“.
> Thanks again for your help.
> 
>>> On 7/17/24 04:16, rsbrux via gnucash-user wrote:
>>>> Thanks, but I'm still lost.
>>>> 
>>>> After executing:
>>>> 
>>>> sudo flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists gnucash 
>>>> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/gnucash-nightlies.flatpakrepo
>>>> 
>>>> sudo flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists flathub 
>>>> https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
>>>> 
>>>> flatpak remote-ls gnucash  # because I have a 64-bit operating system
>>>> 
>>>> I get an extremely long list of versions starting with "master-", "maint-" 
>>>> or "stable-".
>>>> 
>>>> However, the list does not include commit dates, and I found no indication 
>>>> of the corresponding commit ID(s) in the Bugzilla entry 
>>>> <https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799370> .
>>>> 
>>>> The instructions on the wiki say I should execute:
>>>> 
>>>> sudo flatpak --arch=x86_64 install gnucash 
>>>> org.gnucash.GnuCash//maint-C3.8b-163-g0e6c9e219-D3.8b-15-g0479ece # <-- 
>>>> change version here!
>>>> 
>>>> (in my case presumably sudo flatpak install gnucash 
>>>> org.gnucash.GnuCash//maint-C3.8b-163-g0e6c9e219-D3.8b-15-g0479ece # <-- 
>>>> change version here!)
>>>> 
>>>> What do I need to enter in place of 
>>>> “maint-C3.8b-163-g0e6c9e219-D3.8b-15-g0479ece”?
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks for your help!
>> 


Immediately above the example you quoted from the wiki page it says:
> Often you can find test versions on the build-server. They come in two 
> flavours:
> 
>   Stable
> Version 5.8 plus all recent bug fixes, but no new features:
> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/stable/?C=M;O=D
>   Future
> Only available after the implementation of a feature from Release 
> Schedule#Goals for 6.0!
> Version 5.8 plus new features, but bug fixes can be delayed a few days:
>  https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/future/?C=M;O=D
> Tip
>   The file names in these directories can be used in the example below after 
> trimming the „gnucash-“ prefix and „.flatpakref“ suffix.
> 
That means go to the first link, 
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/stable/, and find the nightly build 
that you want. The build dates are in the right-hand column. Copy the filename 
without “gnucash-“ and “.flatpakref” and paste it on the command line in place 
of the example commit.

You perhaps missed that we changed the branch names from “maint” and “master” 
to “stable” and “future” when we released 5.0.

 I’ve replaced the example in the wiki with the most recent build and added a 
note mentioning the old branch names. 

Regards,
John Ralls



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Re: [GNC] [devel question] instanceCount in schedxaction

2024-07-17 Thread John Ralls
Your email to gnucash-devel went through, 
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-devel/2024-July/046944.html

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 16, 2024, at 21:42, Kevin Buckley via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've tried posting the following to the -devel list, to which I thought
> I was subscribed, but even after trying to subscribe, I haven't seen
> anything back,  nor has the post passed moderation there.
> 
> As it's possible that some non-devel folk might have some insight here,
> and so as to alert any devel folk on here to the question, I thought I'd
> try posting it here.
> 
> Here's hoping,
> Kevin
> 
> 
> First up: need to point out that I'm running a modified 2.6.21a,
> but few gnucash-devs would recognise the source tree its built
> from as being such, as it's been rolled forwards a few versions
> past the directory layout changes!
> 
> Secondly, the potential inconsistency I'm seeing doesn't affect
> the functionality of the application.
> 
> 
> Had been thinking about taking the XML stanzas for the schedxaction
> entries in my dot-xac GnuCash files and mangling them into generic
> calendar (VCal) entries that I could then use external to GnuCash.
> 
> For the schedxaction I have first looked at, I have noted
> (some info replaced/truncated)
> 
> 
>  e468...
>  SX Name
>  y
>  n
>  n
>  0
>  0
>  24
>  
>2023-08-30
>  
>  
>2024-07-03
>  
>  548e...
>  
>
>  2
>  week
>  
>2023-08-30
>  
>
>  
> 
> 
> 
> By my reckoning, the dates for that schedxaction
> (Every 2nd Week on a Weds since StartDate,
> with no End, Date nor Number) are
> 
> 1  2023-08-30start
> 2  2023-09-13
> ...
> 22  2024-06-19
> 23  2024-07-03last  But 23 not 24 as in the instanceCount above ?
> 24  2024-07-17
> ...
> 
> so I was wondering why the "instanceCount" was stored as 24 and not 23 ?
> 
> If it's correct, then I'm thinking it'd just be some logic within the
> code that would be what requires it to be stored as a "nextInstance",
> but I just thought to ask about it, in case something I'd been doing
> had caused that potential inconsistency?
> 
> I could see that a schedxaction without an end could be computed
> from the last date, plus the recurrence data, so wouldn't need
> to "know" the count, anyway, in which case you'ld only be storing
> an instanceCount so as to aid modifying the schedxaction via the
> dialog: so perhaps that's it?
> 
> I'm sure someone will know ?
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Announcement: GnuCash 5.8 For Apple Silicon

2024-07-17 Thread John Ralls
It definitely is 5.7, complete with the crash if you try to re-parent an 
account. It looks like I never pushed the 5.8 commit for gnucash-on-osx so I 
didn’t build what I thought I did. I’ll have another go at it tomorrow.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 16, 2024, at 21:49, William Prescott  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 16 Jul 2024, at 22:45, William Prescott  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, thank you.
> 
> I was going to say the same thing. It is really quick opening, about the only 
> thing I have done with it so far. But it does say it is a 5.7 version.
> 
> Version: 5.7
> Build ID: 5.7+(2024-06-29)
> 
> Best wishes,
> Will
> 
> On 16 Jul 2024, at 17:51, David Reiser via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wonderful news. Thank you. It is noticeably faster. But the splash screen 
> says it’s 5.7
> --
> Dave Reiser
> dbrei...@icloud.com <mailto:dbrei...@icloud.com>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 19:37, John Ralls > <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
>> 
>> We're pleased to announce that thanks to some brilliant deceptive work on 
>> the part of our colleague known here as Sherlock we're able to package 
>> GnuCash as a native Apple Silicon application bundle.
>> 
>> Downloads:
>> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-1.dmg
>> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-1.dmg
>> 
>> The sha-256 hash is 
>> 3b736455e7c2f26324f4968c475bb1b858e243269fdcb676091fa99b51cd7e98 and it is 
>> notarized by Apple.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Announcement: GnuCash 5.8 For Apple Silicon

2024-07-16 Thread John Ralls
Sigh. Yes, detective work indeed. Nothing deceptive about it!

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jul 16, 2024, at 16:59, Chris Graves  wrote:
> 
> Wish I had a Silicon Mac!, but do appreciate the perhaps deceptive detective 
> work done by Sherlock ;-) and of course John. Thank you each for your time 
> and effort!
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 4:51 PM, David Reiser via gnucash-user 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Wonderful news. Thank you. It is noticeably faster. But the splash screen 
>> says it’s 5.7
>> --
>> Dave Reiser
>> dbrei...@icloud.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 19:37, John Ralls  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We're pleased to announce that thanks to some brilliant deceptive work on 
>>> the part of our colleague known here as Sherlock we're able to package 
>>> GnuCash as a native Apple Silicon application bundle.
>>> 
>>> Downloads:
>>> https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-1.dmg
>>> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-1.dmg
>>> 
>>> The sha-256 hash is 
>>> 3b736455e7c2f26324f4968c475bb1b858e243269fdcb676091fa99b51cd7e98 and it is 
>>> notarized by Apple.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
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[GNC] Announcement: GnuCash 5.8 For Apple Silicon

2024-07-16 Thread John Ralls
We're pleased to announce that thanks to some brilliant deceptive work on the 
part of our colleague known here as Sherlock we're able to package GnuCash as a 
native Apple Silicon application bundle.

Downloads:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-1.dmg
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/Gnucash-Arm-5.8-1.dmg

The sha-256 hash is 
3b736455e7c2f26324f4968c475bb1b858e243269fdcb676091fa99b51cd7e98 and it is 
notarized by Apple.

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Re: [GNC] New accounts don't show up in GC 5.8 under Flathub

2024-07-16 Thread John Ralls
I’ve added instructions for that to the wiki page.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 16, 2024, at 06:48, rsbrux  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, but I am a bit unsure about the instructions.
> 1. It says they won’t work if I have the flathub repository configured, which 
> I do.
> 2. Before doing this, I would like to know how to get back to the stable 
> version.
> Many thanks for your help!
> 
>> On 15 Jul 2024, at 21:27, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 10:07 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 06:48, rsbrux via gnucash-user 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> When I create a new account in GC (v5.8 running in Flathub under Ubuntu 
>>>> Studio 22.04 LTS), it doesn't show up in the account tree.
>>>> 
>>>> Clicking "View - Refresh" does not help.  The ony way I have found to get 
>>>> the new account to show up is to use "Edit - Find Account".
>>>> 
>>>> The new account then shows up in the search results, but with a checkmark 
>>>> in the column "Not Used".
>>>> 
>>>> When I double-click on the entry in the search results list,  the new 
>>>> account appears in the account tree.
>>> 
>>> I think that has to do with the fix for bug 799347. There are some other 
>>> side effects. Bob Fewell and I are working on it, the discussion is at the 
>>> bottom of https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799370 
>>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799370>
>>> 
>> 
>> I confirmed that it was a side effect of the bug 799347 fix. I've now fixed 
>> that differently along with the rest of bug 799370. Please try tomorrow's 
>> nightly build, see 
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Nightly_Test_Versions_at_gnucash.org 
>> for installation instructions.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
> 

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Re: [GNC] New accounts don't show up in GC 5.8 under Flathub

2024-07-15 Thread John Ralls



> On Jul 15, 2024, at 10:07 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2024, at 06:48, rsbrux via gnucash-user 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> When I create a new account in GC (v5.8 running in Flathub under Ubuntu 
>> Studio 22.04 LTS), it doesn't show up in the account tree.
>> 
>> Clicking "View - Refresh" does not help.  The ony way I have found to get 
>> the new account to show up is to use "Edit - Find Account".
>> 
>> The new account then shows up in the search results, but with a checkmark in 
>> the column "Not Used".
>> 
>> When I double-click on the entry in the search results list,  the new 
>> account appears in the account tree.
> 
> I think that has to do with the fix for bug 799347. There are some other side 
> effects. Bob Fewell and I are working on it, the discussion is at the bottom 
> of https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799370 
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799370>
> 

I confirmed that it was a side effect of the bug 799347 fix. I've now fixed 
that differently along with the rest of bug 799370. Please try tomorrow's 
nightly build, see 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak#Nightly_Test_Versions_at_gnucash.org for 
installation instructions.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] New accounts don't show up in GC 5.8 under Flathub

2024-07-15 Thread John Ralls



> On Jul 15, 2024, at 06:48, rsbrux via gnucash-user  
> wrote:
> 
> When I create a new account in GC (v5.8 running in Flathub under Ubuntu 
> Studio 22.04 LTS), it doesn't show up in the account tree.
> 
> Clicking "View - Refresh" does not help.  The ony way I have found to get the 
> new account to show up is to use "Edit - Find Account".
> 
> The new account then shows up in the search results, but with a checkmark in 
> the column "Not Used".
> 
> When I double-click on the entry in the search results list,  the new account 
> appears in the account tree.

I think that has to do with the fix for bug 799347. There are some other side 
effects. Bob Fewell and I are working on it, the discussion is at the bottom of 
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799370 
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799370>

Regards,
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Re: [GNC] aqbanking import mapping to GnuCash

2024-07-10 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 10, 2024, at 06:49, Jan Vlug  wrote:
> 
> I would expect that the AqBanking purpose would be used as the description in 
> GnuCash, but this seems not to happen.
> 
> Where is the mapping from AqBanking to GnuCash done? Is there a mapping table 
> or something like that?
> 
> Should I create a bug in the Bugzilla of GnuCash with the request to fix 
> this, or is the current behavior wanted?
> 
> If wanted, I can provide example exports files of the bank statements.
> 
> I'm using: camt.053.001.02
> 

The description field is filled from three AQBanking fields: Remote name, 
purpose, and ultimate creditor/debtor, see 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/07e449a677bcd8623f05f234e6b4e7902b6f3ccf/gnucash/import-export/aqb/gnc-ab-utils.c#L422.
 

Most of the other field copies are in other functions in the same file.

Yes, let’s move this to a bug report. It will be easier to follow and to keep 
track of attachments. It would be helpful to know what shows up on the GnuCash 
side from that import, including Notes (double-line view) and Memos (Split 
View). 

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 5.7/8 on Linux Mint 21.3

2024-07-09 Thread John Ralls



> On Jul 9, 2024, at 06:29, Nigel Stapley  wrote:
> 
> Hi. Trying to run flapak version 5.7 or 8 on Linux Mint 21.3. Loading page
> comes up but it stalls at loading data then crashes. Any one else having a
> problem with this OS or is it just me. I attach the dump file if that helps
> the initiated! Thanks
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Looks like the bad Nvidia driver crash, bug 799301 
(https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799301 Try running
  flatpak run --env=WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 org.gnucash.GnuCash

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[GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.8 Released

2024-07-07 Thread John Ralls
The GnuCash development team announces GnuCash 5.8, the ninth release in the 
stable 5.x series. This is a snap releae to fix a serious bug in GnuCash 5.8.
Between 5.7 and 5.8, the following bugfixes were accomplished:
• Bug 799347 - Edit account to make it sub account under other account
There were no other changes.
New and Updated Translations: Chinese (Traditional), Hebrew, Hungarian, 
Macedonian, Spanish

Help translate GnuCash on Weblate: https://hosted.weblate.org/engage/gnucash/

German AQBanking Users:
The AQBanking author is still working to get his updated PIN/TAN code finalized 
so the Flatpak, macOS, and Windows bundles of this release contain the last 
stable version, 6.5.4. The GnuCash nightly builds have beta releases with the 
new implementation, so consider using one of those if the stable AQBanking 
doesn't work for you.

Known Problems

Complete list of all open bugs: 
https://bugs.gnucash.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=REOPENED&limit=0&list_id=8149&order=priority%2Cbug_severity&query_format=advanced

Documentation

No changes were made between 5.7 and 5.8.

Getting GnuCash for Windows and MacOS

GnuCash is provided for both Microsoft Windows 10® and later and MacOS 10.13 
(High Sierra)® and later in pre-built, all-in-one packages. An installer is 
provided for Microsoft Windows® while the MacOS® package is a disk image 
containing a drag-and-drop application bundle.

GnuCash is also available as a flatpak from Flathub.org. Instructions for 
installing and running: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak

The SHA256 Hashes for the downloadable files are:



Microsoft Windows:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/gnucash-5.8.setup.exe
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/gnucash-5.8.setup.exe

Apple macOS:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/Gnucash-Intel-5.8-1.dmg
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/Gnucash-Intel-5.8-1.dmg

Getting GnuCash as source code
If you want to compile GnuCash 5.8 for yourself, the source code can be 
downloaded from:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/gnucash-5.8.tar.bz2
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/gnucash-5.8.tar.gz
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/gnucash-5.8.tar.bz2
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/gnucash-5.8.tar.gz

To compile GnuCash from the source code by yourself, you will need at least 
Gtk+ 3.22.29, Guile 2.0, Boost 1.67, WebKitGtk 2.4, GoogleTest 1.8.0, cmake 
3.10 and SWIG 2.0.12. Please consult the README.dependencies file in the 
sources for the exact list of dependencies and versions.
Getting the documentation

Note that the documentation for unstable releases is not on the GnuCash 
website. It is built daily and may be found on the development server under the 
locale directory; "C" is English, "de" is German, and so on.

The documentation is included in the MacOS and Windows application bundles.

If you want to compile the GnuCash Documentation 5.8 for yourself, the source 
code can be downloaded from:

Sourceforge: 
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.8/gnucash-docs-5.8.tar.gz
 
GitHub: 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.8/gnucash-docs-5.8.tar.gz

You can also checkout the sources directly from the git repository as described 
at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git.

About the Program

GnuCash is a free, open source accounting program released under the GNU 
General Public License (GPL) and available for GNU/Linux, *BSD, Solaris, MacOS, 
and Microsoft Windows. Programming on GnuCash began in 1997, and its first 
stable release was in 1998.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Bogus email?

2024-07-06 Thread John Ralls
A fluke (a kind of fish, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_flounder, but not 
a phish ;-) ) I think: It looks like Mr. Bambrough accidentally replied to the 
email instead of using the link.

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John Ralls


> On Jul 6, 2024, at 5:54 PM, Phyllis Bruce  wrote:
> 
> I’m confused and my age sometimes makes my brain burp.
> 
> This is the first time I’ve ever seen Gnucash mail asking someone else for 
> confirmation of their email address.  It’s to a Frederick Bambrough. Just 
> asking if this is a fluke or a phish?
> 
> Thanks, Po
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Re: [GNC] SHA for GnuCash 5.7 incorrect

2024-07-06 Thread John Ralls
Heh, that was almost the least of the problem with that announcement email. 
I've sent a new one with the correct SHA256s and also the release notes that 
are supposed to be most of the announcement.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jul 6, 2024, at 4:25 PM, Frederick Bambrough  wrote:
> 
> The SHA hash for GnuCash 5.7 doesn't match the published one, presumeably
> because the published one's actually  for version 5.6. So it's described.
> 
> MacOS version but probably true for the others.
> 
> -- 
> Frederick Bambrough
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[GNC] Re-ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.7 Released

2024-07-06 Thread John Ralls
ash%20%28stable%29/5.7/gnucash-docs-5.7.tar.gz
 
GitHub: 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.6/gnucash-docs-5.7.tar.gz

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General Public License (GPL) and available for GNU/Linux, *BSD, Solaris, MacOS, 
and Microsoft Windows. Programming on GnuCash began in 1997, and its first 
stable release was in 1998.

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Re: [GNC] Importing to Gnucash

2024-07-05 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 5, 2024, at 09:09, Ronald Solomon  wrote:
> 
> I want to import from a CSV file It has both debit and credit transactions.
> When I am labeling the CSV columns I don't see where I label Withdrawal and
> deposit. My deposits are in one column and withdrawals are in another
> column.
> I have set up a test GNUCash file and am running test data. It sees the
> transactions however, it negates the amount to 0

Assuming that both columns are unsigned and you’re importing into an asset 
account use Amount for the debit column and Amount (Negated) for the credit 
column. If you’re importing into a liability account (e.g. credit card) then 
you may need to flip that depending on your choice for reverse-balance accounts 
in Preferences>Accounts. If it comes in backwards, meaning that an amount you 
intend as a debit imports as a credit then reverse the column types.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] GC crashing after upgrade

2024-07-03 Thread John Ralls
No need for a VM on macOS, app bundles are completely self-contained except for 
Finance::Quote. You can have as many different versions of GnuCash installed as 
you like as long as they have different names or you put them in different 
folders.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 3, 2024, at 09:35, Adrien Monteleone  
> wrote:
> 
> Or install an older version in a virtual machine.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> On 7/2/24 6:31 PM, Ernie Wakamatsu wrote:
>> Thanks again for your help. It sounds like my best option to get around this 
>> crash and inability to commit QIF import changes is to go back a couple of 
>> versions and wait for the next stable version of GC for MacOS.
>> Hmm, or pull out my old MS laptop …
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Re: [GNC] GnuCash for Apple Silicon Macs

2024-07-02 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 2, 2024, at 11:49 AM, David Reiser via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 14:27, R Losey  wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 12:55 PM Robert Zuccherato <
>> robert.zuccher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I am sending this email because I am wondering about the status of
>>> GnuCash compiled for Apple silicon Macs.  Currently, we just have
>>> available for download binaries for Intel Macs.  They run fine on Apple
>>> silicon Macs under Rosetta 2.  However, Apple is not going to support
>>> Rosetta 2 forever.  At some point in the future, they will remove it in
>>> an update to MacOS.  I understand that the reason binaries are not
>>> available is that WebKitGtk crashes when built for Apple silicon.  It
>>> appears that no progress has been made in fixing the WebKitGtk bug that
>>> causes the crash.  Thus, what are the future plans for GnuCash on MacOS?
>>> When Apple removes Rosetta 2 will Mac users be left out in the cold?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>>  Robert Zuccherato.
>>> 
>> 
>> I am also interested, as my M1 iMac is my main computer, and I do about 60%
>> of my GnuCash data entry on it.
>> 
>> Has Apple given a date when they won't support Rosetta 2?
>> 
> No. And it would be somewhere between unusual and unheard of for Apple to 
> comment this soon about it.
> 
> Rosetta 1 was around for 5 years. So maybe 2026 will be the end of Rosetta 2. 
> We might not hear of its demise until WWDC 26, with the axe falling in 
> September.
> 
> If the discontinuation is strictly a commercial decision, maybe it stays 
> around longer. If something technical arises in some intervening system 
> update, Rosetta could disappear earlier and very suddenly.
> 
> I doubt Apple themselves knows for sure, so I don’t expect any announcement 
> soon.

Sherlock posted a fix for the WebKit crash to gnucash-devel back in April but I 
haven’t had time to try it out. 

My guess about Rosetta is that it will be around as long as Apple continues to 
support the last Intel Macs with macOS. They were still selling Intel Mac Pros 
until a year ago—and those were d*d expensive—so I expect we’ve got at 
least another 5 years of Intel support in macOS.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] GC crashing after upgrade

2024-07-02 Thread John Ralls
Ernie,

Sorry, no, we don’t have nightly macOS builds. You can build it yourself, there 
are (possibly out of date) instructions at 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOS/Quartz (the way I do it) and 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/MacOS/MacPortsDetail (the way Mike Alexander does 
it). The MacPorts method is more approachable for non-developers. Homebrew 
isn’t an option, they just package up my release dmgs.

I don’t think flatpaks will work on macOS but I’ll admit that I’ve never 
actually tried. One would have to start by porting the flatpak infrastructure 
to macOS.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jul 2, 2024, at 04:22, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
> 
> Thanks John,
> 
> Is there a MacOS version to try the fix on? Or do I need to download the 
> flatpack for my Mac?  It’ll be a first time download and a bit hesitant  🥶 .
> 
> Ernie
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jul 2024, at 3:19 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 21:35, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Users,
>>> 
>>> I just upgraded my Gnucash to 5.7.1 and it has crashed on me in a couple of 
>>> instances.  The first is when I try to delete an account and the second 
>>> instance is when I try to apply changes when importing a QIF.
>>> 
>>> I am using Gnucash Version: 5.7, Build ID: 5.7+(2024-06-29), 
>>> Finance::Quote: 1.62Version: 5.7.  I’m running on an Apple M1 chip and 
>>> Macos, Sonoma, 14.5.  Not sure if the crash report for Apple helps, but 
>>> here are the first many lines.
>> 
>> Crash reports *always* help.
>> This turns out to be https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799347. It 
>> also crashes if you try to re-parent an account.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
> 

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Re: [GNC] okay maybe I am slow however I am having trouble understanding how to get any support

2024-07-02 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 1, 2024, at 10:30, Ronald Solomon  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am trying to figure out how to import CVS in Gnucash 5.6 I can get the
> expenses to come in however all income cancels itself out with a total of
> 0.00
> Also, where am I supposed to sign in to get help

To answer the second question first, this is the place.

How are the amounts presented in the CSV you’re trying to import and what 
column types have you assigned?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GC crashing after upgrade

2024-07-01 Thread John Ralls


> On Jun 30, 2024, at 21:35, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
> 
> Hi Users,
> 
> I just upgraded my Gnucash to 5.7.1 and it has crashed on me in a couple of 
> instances.  The first is when I try to delete an account and the second 
> instance is when I try to apply changes when importing a QIF.
> 
> I am using Gnucash Version: 5.7, Build ID: 5.7+(2024-06-29), Finance::Quote: 
> 1.62Version: 5.7.  I’m running on an Apple M1 chip and Macos, Sonoma, 14.5.  
> Not sure if the crash report for Apple helps, but here are the first many 
> lines.

Crash reports *always* help.
This turns out to be https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799347. It also 
crashes if you try to re-parent an account.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited

2024-07-01 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 1, 2024, at 09:25, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 23:27, Bruce Olson  wrote:
>> 
>> On 6/30/24 21:11, John Ralls wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 17:27, Bruce Olson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/30/24 15:56, John Ralls wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:55 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today.  I also don't see v5.7 
>>>>>> available.
>>>>>> Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to 
>>>>>> v4.12 if needed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last 
>>>>>> nightly builds I tested had no issues and looked good.
>>>>>> The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the 
>>>>>> documentation, though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test 
>>>>>> completed successfully last night. I've just started a retry.
>>>>> My retry failed because of a configuration failure in building perl. I've 
>>>>> submitted https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/5371. There won't be 
>>>>> a 5.7 release flatpak until flathub fixes their buildbot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> John Ralls
>>>> Thanks John!
>>>> 
>>>> I installed v5.7 
>>>> fromhttps://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak(gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref).
>>>> 
>>>> I have everything I need fromhttps://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak.
>>> 
>>> Followup on Flathub: One of their admins jumped on my issue and got it 
>>> resolved and the 5.7 package is available now.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> John Ralls
>>> 
>> 
>> I ran "flatpak update" in the terminal to update to the latest flathub 
>> version v5.7 and I see a message that says GNOME 44 runtime is no longer 
>> supported as of March 20, 2024.  I don't see this message when installing 
>> from from https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak 
>> (gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref) which used GNOME 46 runtime.
>> 
>> This is the message I get:
>> "The GNOME 44 runtime is no longer supported as of March 20, 2024. Please 
>> ask your application developer to migrate to a supported platform.
>> Info: applications using this runtime:
>>   org.gnucash.GnuCash"
>> 
>> I did not install the flathub version and stayed on v5.7. Build ID: git 
>> 5.7+(2024-06-29).
>> 
>> I attached two text files to compare GnuCash from stable build to GnuCash 
>> from flathub.
> 
> That’s weird: 
> https://github.com/flathub/org.gnucash.GnuCash/blob/0625c460639c54578f450fd9a6f2982a424b3ffc/org.gnucash.GnuCash.json#L4
> I’ve asked on flathub issue 5375 if the admin changed something.

Bruce,

What does
   flatpak remote-info flathub --system --show-runtime org.gnucash.GnuCash
Report?

Regards,
John Ralls 
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Re: [GNC] Confusing GC update versions

2024-07-01 Thread John Ralls


> On Jul 1, 2024, at 09:15, rsbrux via gnucash-user  
> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps this is a quirk of KDE Discover or Flatpak or both, but when I 
> checked for updates in KDE Discover, it offered me an update to GnuCash 
> 5.6.2, even though GnuCash claimed to already be at that version.
> 
> Out of curiosity, I selected the update and ran it. Now GnuCash identifies 
> itself as version 5.7.
> 
> The flatpak repository in Discover points at dl.flatpak.org.
> 
> Discover is version 5.24.7 running under Ubuntu Studio 22.04 LTS

You’ll have to take that up with KDE. Flathub correctly reports that the 
current version is 5.7.

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Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited

2024-07-01 Thread John Ralls


> On Jun 30, 2024, at 23:27, Bruce Olson  wrote:
> 
> On 6/30/24 21:11, John Ralls wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 17:27, Bruce Olson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 6/30/24 15:56, John Ralls wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:55 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today.  I also don't see v5.7 
>>>>> available.
>>>>> Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to 
>>>>> v4.12 if needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last 
>>>>> nightly builds I tested had no issues and looked good.
>>>>> The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the documentation, 
>>>>> though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test completed 
>>>>> successfully last night. I've just started a retry.
>>>> My retry failed because of a configuration failure in building perl. I've 
>>>> submitted https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/5371. There won't be a 
>>>> 5.7 release flatpak until flathub fixes their buildbot.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>> Thanks John!
>>> 
>>> I installed v5.7 
>>> fromhttps://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak(gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref).
>>> 
>>> I have everything I need fromhttps://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak.
>> 
>> Followup on Flathub: One of their admins jumped on my issue and got it 
>> resolved and the 5.7 package is available now.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
> 
> I ran "flatpak update" in the terminal to update to the latest flathub 
> version v5.7 and I see a message that says GNOME 44 runtime is no longer 
> supported as of March 20, 2024.  I don't see this message when installing 
> from from https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak 
> (gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref) which used GNOME 46 runtime.
> 
> This is the message I get:
> "The GNOME 44 runtime is no longer supported as of March 20, 2024. Please ask 
> your application developer to migrate to a supported platform.
> Info: applications using this runtime:
>org.gnucash.GnuCash"
> 
> I did not install the flathub version and stayed on v5.7. Build ID: git 
> 5.7+(2024-06-29).
> 
> I attached two text files to compare GnuCash from stable build to GnuCash 
> from flathub.

That’s weird: 
https://github.com/flathub/org.gnucash.GnuCash/blob/0625c460639c54578f450fd9a6f2982a424b3ffc/org.gnucash.GnuCash.json#L4
I’ve asked on flathub issue 5375 if the admin changed something.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited

2024-06-30 Thread John Ralls



> On Jun 30, 2024, at 17:27, Bruce Olson  wrote:
> 
> On 6/30/24 15:56, John Ralls wrote:
>>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:55 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today.  I also don't see v5.7 
>>> available.
>>> Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to 
>>> v4.12 if needed.
>>> 
>>> I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last 
>>> nightly builds I tested had no issues and looked good.
>>> The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the documentation, 
>>> though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test completed 
>>> successfully last night. I've just started a retry.
>> My retry failed because of a configuration failure in building perl. I've 
>> submitted https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/5371. There won't be a 
>> 5.7 release flatpak until flathub fixes their buildbot.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
> Thanks John!
> 
> I installed v5.7 from https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak 
> (gnucash-stable-C5.7-D5.7.flatpakref).
> 
> I have everything I need from https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak.

Followup on Flathub: One of their admins jumped on my issue and got it resolved 
and the 5.7 package is available now.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited

2024-06-30 Thread John Ralls



> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:55 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Olson via gnucash-user 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> The list of GnuCash packages available in Flathub looks limited.  I don't 
>> see where I have access to older versions as described on 
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak.
>> 
>> This is all I see at this time:
>> 
>> $ flatpak remote-info --log flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash
>>ID: org.gnucash.GnuCash
>>   Ref: app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/x86_64/stable
>>  Arch: x86_64
>>Branch: stable
>> Collection: org.flathub.Stable
>>  Download: 120.1 MB
>> Installed: 329.4 MB
>>   Runtime: org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/46
>> 
>>   Sdk: org.gnome.Sdk/x86_64/46
>>Commit: 18c94f86a12c9823471647a83eacdceee74bc27681e8215136e632d66e65f998
>>Parent: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425
>>   Subject: Package gnucash 5.6-2 (1d1901bb)
>>  Date: 2024-04-29 21:48:11 +
>>   History:
>> 
>>Commit: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425
>>   Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d)
>>  Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 +
>> 
>>Commit: 8a04dbcba01b772ceed33ca6a06e1ab26b9a071c856ffc2274641b6443df0c2c
>>   Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d)
>>  Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 +
>> 
>>Commit: dfa077ef4262b37c8c1a14d489012e2e45f81ad9950c0f24a2c4f8c1108573ff
>>   Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d)
>>  Date: 2024-04-02 01:14:33 +
>> 
>> $
>> 
>> I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today.  I also don't see v5.7 
>> available.
>> Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to 
>> v4.12 if needed.
>> 
>> I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last 
>> nightly builds I tested had no issues and looked good.
> 
> The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the documentation, 
> though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test completed 
> successfully last night. I've just started a retry.

My retry failed because of a configuration failure in building perl. I've 
submitted https://github.com/flathub/flathub/issues/5371. There won't be a 5.7 
release flatpak until flathub fixes their buildbot.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] List of gnucash packages available in flathub looks limited

2024-06-30 Thread John Ralls



> On Jun 30, 2024, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Olson via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> The list of GnuCash packages available in Flathub looks limited.  I don't see 
> where I have access to older versions as described on 
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak.
> 
> This is all I see at this time:
> 
> $ flatpak remote-info --log flathub org.gnucash.GnuCash
> ID: org.gnucash.GnuCash
>Ref: app/org.gnucash.GnuCash/x86_64/stable
>   Arch: x86_64
> Branch: stable
> Collection: org.flathub.Stable
>   Download: 120.1 MB
>  Installed: 329.4 MB
>Runtime: org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/46
> 
>Sdk: org.gnome.Sdk/x86_64/46
> Commit: 18c94f86a12c9823471647a83eacdceee74bc27681e8215136e632d66e65f998
> Parent: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425
>Subject: Package gnucash 5.6-2 (1d1901bb)
>   Date: 2024-04-29 21:48:11 +
>History:
> 
> Commit: b55451dd3981e245d4b545e6e81c50095234468856f33cfc3603533bc5d13425
>Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d)
>   Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 +
> 
> Commit: 8a04dbcba01b772ceed33ca6a06e1ab26b9a071c856ffc2274641b6443df0c2c
>Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d)
>   Date: 2024-04-02 01:33:43 +
> 
> Commit: dfa077ef4262b37c8c1a14d489012e2e45f81ad9950c0f24a2c4f8c1108573ff
>Subject: Re-package GnuCash 5.6 with repaired Finance::Quote. (7547820d)
>   Date: 2024-04-02 01:14:33 +
> 
> $
> 
> I just noticed this after the v5.7 release today.  I also don't see v5.7 
> available.
> Previously I was able to roll back to a previous version all the way to v4.12 
> if needed.
> 
> I'm currently on v5.4 but would like to update to v5.7 since the last nightly 
> builds I tested had no issues and looked good.

The 5.7 flathub build failed after failing to download the documentation, 
though the exact same commit pushed to my repo as a test completed successfully 
last night. I've just started a retry.

I can't account for what flathub makes available. All of the old flatpaks, both 
release and nightly, are available at https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak.

Regards,
John Ralls


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[GNC] ANNOUNCE: GnuCash 5.7 Released

2024-06-30 Thread John Ralls

Help translate GnuCash on Weblate: https://hosted.weblate.org/engage/gnucash/

Known Problems

Complete list of all open bugs: 
https://bugs.gnucash.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=REOPENED&limit=0&list_id=8149&order=priority%2Cbug_severity&query_format=advanced

Documentation

Getting GnuCash for Windows and MacOS

GnuCash is provided for both Microsoft Windows 10® and later and MacOS 10.13 
(High Sierra)® and later in pre-built, all-in-one packages. An installer is 
provided for Microsoft Windows® while the MacOS® package is a disk image 
containing a drag-and-drop application bundle.

GnuCash is also available as a flatpak from Flathub.org. Instructions for 
installing and running: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak

The SHA256 Hashes for the downloadable files are:

* b4b42c626350f3e79f7ca1f2173545cc63ddee1addf2460b1a1f1bf21bd1  
gnucash-5.6.tar.bz2
* 50aebe914da63c3b668c6a0b86df3d583a200c378f0f16658bec299bbbd3  
gnucash-5.6.tar.gz
* dc6139469696168ddd13ad617a8fbd31c2389b0960a82bc2da1c0c5606b37f46  
gnucash-5.6.setup.exe
* 2cc91f36d9939065dac366058aae1a6a8c41cfe84850b6b549ee87ba075d50d4  
Gnucash-Intel-5.6-1.dmg
* 8ad9da28199074fc5ef604d4489a82413031290a06e5f6418fe85cceb5fa3f02  
gnucash-docs-5.6.tar.gz


Microsoft Windows:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/gnucash-5.7.setup.exe
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.7/gnucash-5.7.setup.exe

Apple macOS:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/Gnucash-Intel-5.7-1.dmg
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.7/Gnucash-Intel-5.7-1.dmg

Getting GnuCash as source code
If you want to compile GnuCash 5.7 for yourself, the source code can be 
downloaded from:
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/gnucash-5.7.tar.bz2
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/gnucash-5.7.tar.gz
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.7/gnucash-5.7.tar.bz2
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.7/gnucash-5.7.tar.gz

To compile GnuCash from the source code by yourself, you will need at least 
Gtk+ 3.22.29, Guile 2.0, Boost 1.67, WebKitGtk 2.4, GoogleTest 1.8.0, cmake 
3.10 and SWIG 2.0.12. Please consult the README.dependencies file in the 
sources for the exact list of dependencies and versions.
Getting the documentation

Note that the documentation for unstable releases is not on the GnuCash 
website. It is built daily and may be found on the development server under the 
locale directory; "C" is English, "de" is German, and so on.

The documentation is included in the MacOS and Windows application bundles.

If you want to compile the GnuCash Documentation 5.7 for yourself, the source 
code can be downloaded from:

Sourceforge: 
https://downloads.sourceforge.net/gnucash/gnucash%20%28stable%29/5.7/gnucash-docs-5.7.tar.gz
 
GitHub: 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/releases/download/5.6/gnucash-docs-5.7.tar.gz

You can also checkout the sources directly from the git repository as described 
at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Git.

About the Program

GnuCash is a free, open source accounting program released under the GNU 
General Public License (GPL) and available for GNU/Linux, *BSD, Solaris, MacOS, 
and Microsoft Windows. Programming on GnuCash began in 1997, and its first 
stable release was in 1998.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash Crash After upgrade to Sonoma

2024-06-29 Thread John Ralls
Please remember to copy the list on all replies.

Since it’s the same computer you don’t need to do anything, the new GnuCash 
will use the same files the old one did. When you finally leap to Apple Silicon 
see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup for the files you need to copy to the 
new Mac—and in the meantime make sure that you have Time Machine backing all of 
them up!

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jun 29, 2024, at 18:01, C Konz  wrote:
> 
> Intel Core.
> 
> Is there a file that I can copy that will have all the old data that I can 
> move over to the new GnuCash or do I have to start from scratch?
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:30 PM John Ralls  <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > On Jun 29, 2024, at 1:58 PM, C Konz > > <mailto:myonlinejunkmail...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Hey all, my GnuCash 3.11-1 won't open after upgrade to Mac Sonoma. Where do
>> > I start to troubleshoot? Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Don’t bother, just upgrade. I tested 4.11 and it works. 4.0 started up but 
>> didn’t find the last opened file and crashed in GtkFileChooser when I tried 
>> to open a file.
>> 
>> What were you upgrading from? Apple Silicon or Intel?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash Crash After upgrade to Sonoma

2024-06-29 Thread John Ralls


> On Jun 29, 2024, at 1:58 PM, C Konz  wrote:
> 
> Hey all, my GnuCash 3.11-1 won't open after upgrade to Mac Sonoma. Where do
> I start to troubleshoot? Thanks in advance.

Don’t bother, just upgrade. I tested 4.11 and it works. 4.0 started up but 
didn’t find the last opened file and crashed in GtkFileChooser when I tried to 
open a file.

What were you upgrading from? Apple Silicon or Intel?

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Build ID: git 5.6-246-ge5628f09d0+(2024-06-22)

2024-06-29 Thread John Ralls
Glen,

Please keep everything GnuCash related on the list so that everyone can see it.

I think you're referring to 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/31095c1205f769dd6dccaf4bb8f60ab14e56fe7c.
 The commit message says that it selects the transaction under the pointer if 
there's no selection, but you're expecting it to override the selected 
transaction. I think we might get a bit of pushback if we changed that.

I looked through your gnucash-user posts for the last year and didn't find the 
one you're referring to.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jun 29, 2024, at 1:57 PM, Gyle McCollam  wrote:
> 
> John,
> I have been using this build for a week, with no significant issues.  
> However, my use is pretty simple.  The only thing I noticed is that when 
> importing an OFX file and a transaction is highlighted and you click on a 
> different transaction to fix it, Gnucash brings up the information for the 
> highlighted transaction, not the one clicked on.  This is same as a 
> previously fixed "bug", but I can't find it.  I know you talked to someone 
> and they "fixed" it.  I wish i could remember where in the program it was 
> fixed.
> 
> Thank You,  
> Gyle McCollam
> Gyle McCollam
> gmccol...@live.com   email

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Re: [GNC] Release Next Weekend, please test nightly builds

2024-06-24 Thread John Ralls
David,

Sorry, no. You’d have to look at git history. That’s what I’ll be doing later 
this week to write the release notes.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jun 24, 2024, at 09:14, David Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Question:  Is there a preliminary release note indicating the changes that 
> beta testers should be looking for?
> 
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:18 AM Glenn Fowler  <mailto:gfowl...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Glad to help... just downloaded the latest windows build (6/24) and will
>> test during the week and report back
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 3:42 PM John Ralls > <mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:
>> 
>> > Dear Users,
>> >
>> > With a week to go until the 5.7 release we'd be overjoyed to have some
>> > brave users give the nightly builds a spin:
>> > https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/stable and
>> > https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/stable.
>> >
>> > Please test on a *copy* of your data file!
>> >
>> > For German FinTS users: Nightly builds beginning with today's have the
>> > latest beta release of AQBanking, version 6.5.11beta. This fixes failures
>> > in the last release version (6.5.4) so if no one reports any serious
>> > problems we'll break our usual policy and include it in the 5.7 release
>> > bundles.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > John Ralls
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[GNC] Release Next Weekend, please test nightly builds

2024-06-23 Thread John Ralls
Dear Users,

With a week to go until the 5.7 release we'd be overjoyed to have some brave 
users give the nightly builds a spin:
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/stable and 
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/stable.

Please test on a *copy* of your data file! 

For German FinTS users: Nightly builds beginning with today's have the latest 
beta release of AQBanking, version 6.5.11beta. This fixes failures in the last 
release version (6.5.4) so if no one reports any serious problems we'll break 
our usual policy and include it in the 5.7 release bundles. 

Thanks!

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Consistent way to hang Gnucash

2024-06-23 Thread John Ralls
I think you should open bugs for the crash and the hang, though I’m not sure 
that I can easily fix either of them.

The crash is clearly a call to g_strdup() with a nullptr, but I can’t figure 
out from the stack trace where that might be.

For the hang I take it that you’ve killed to two instances of GnuCash and 
started over, but from this letter that you can reliably reproduce the hang. I 
can’t with a simple book and a simple SX, so I’ll need more detail. It would be 
helpful if you can attach a spindump (select GnuCash in ActivityMonitor, in the 
toolbar click the circle with … in it and select Spindump from the resulting 
context menu) to the bug report.f

Are you closing the Scheduled Transaction Editor tab between uses or just 
clicking different SXes to edit?  While I’m able to edit two SXes at once it 
doesn’t seem from your description that that’s what you’re doing.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Jun 23, 2024, at 08:12, Michael Hendry  wrote:
> 
> Further to my recent crash report:
> 
> Start to reconcile a bank account.
> 
> Edit a pension payment during reconciliation because the regular payment has 
> gone up
> 
> Open the Scheduled Transaction editor and adjust for new payment.
> 
> Go on with the reconciliation until the next pension increase prompts the 
> editing of a payment
> 
> Try to open the Scheduled Transaction editor.
> 
> Work-around: Make a note of adjustments needed to Scheduled Transactions, and 
> deal with them after the reconciliation is complete.
> 
> Michael
> 
> Version Numbers here:
> 
> Process:   Gnucash [48185]
> Path:  /Applications/Gnucash 2.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash
> Identifier:org.gnucash.Gnucash
> Version:   5.5-1 (5.5-1)
> Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
> Parent Process:launchd [1]
> User ID:   501
> 
> Date/Time: 2024-06-23 08:10:26.9458 +0100
> OS Version:macOS 14.5 (23F79)
> Report Version:12
> Bridge OS Version: 8.5 (21P5077)
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Re: [GNC] GNU cash error - cannot retreive stock price

2024-06-21 Thread John Ralls
Not with that error. BVB.pm retrieves from https://bvb.ro <https://bvb.ro/>  
and provides source bvb, tradeville, and Romania and is queried as part of 
europe. Maybe you picked the wrong source for one of your securities?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jun 21, 2024, at 06:21, eml...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your response.
> The data is retrieved from Alphabantage. 
> Does it give you any clue?
> 
> 
> 
>> El 21 jun 2024, a las 11:48, Fred Bone  escribió:
>> 
>> On 20 June 2024 at 17:48, Emilio Lopez said:
>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> When I try to retreive the stocks price, I get this error message:
>>> 
>>> [image: image.png]
>>> 
>>> The translation from Spanish would be: error while retrieving the price:
>>> Finance Error: unknown quote.
>>> 
>>> Looking into the file BVB.pm, this is the content referring to line 92:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [image: image.png]
>>> 
>>> Could you support me to fix this error? at the moment I cannot download
>>> the prices which is one of the best features of the software.
>> 
>> This appears to be a failure in attempting to parse an HTML page returned
>> by a query to a price server. As you haven't provided any information on
>> where the page came from, it's impossible to say for sure, but my guess
>> would be that the server has been reconfigured and the pages don't look
>> they way they used to. In that case you need to get the parsing code
>> rewritten to match the new page layout.
>> 
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[GNC] Another WebKitGtk GPU fail.

2024-06-17 Thread John Ralls
A user reported a report crash for flatpak GnuCash in 
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799301. After guiding him to extract a 
stack trace it was found to be a stack overflow bug in WebKitGtk’s GPU code. 
The usual workaround, setting WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 in the 
environment, fixed it.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] General Ledger Report Request

2024-06-13 Thread John Ralls
Have you explored Reports>Assets & Liabilities>General Ledger? It’s pretty 
thoroughly configurable, I’d think you can get almost everything you want out 
of it. The one thing we can’t do is pagination, it’s not something that HTML is 
capable of.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Jun 13, 2024, at 1:17 PM, Sara-Jayne Slocombe  
> wrote:
> 
> I would like to echo Bruce's request for a General Ledger report. This is
> incredibly useful when trying to trace what's happened when things go wrong
> or reports give results you don't expect.
> 
> Bruce, you're right, when using T-tables with pencil and paper, the totals
> are at the bottom (or whenever you close off a period). However, most
> accounting software does provide the option for a running balance column
> alongside the debit and credit columns, which can be quite useful.
> 
> I am brand new to GnuCash, so will be delighted if anyone corrects Bruce
> and I and tells us this already exists.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Sara-Jayne
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 5:00 PM  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 14:56:28 -0600
>> From: Bruce Irving 
>> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 255, Issue 13
>> Message-ID:
>>   > gaeftg6c...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> 
>> There is one feature I would like to see, though I doubt many would have a
>> use for it.  I learned bookkeeping BC (Before Computer) so I learned the
>> paper/pencil method.  I wish there was a report that would let me print a
>> General Journal much like what appears on screen for a particular period.
>> I would also like to print the various active accounts: Date GL 1st
>> Description, with debit and credit columns.  While I would like a running
>> balance, I believe the proper way was totals at the bottom.  Oh, and each
>> account would be its own page(s).
>> 
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 254, Issue 46

2024-05-29 Thread John Ralls



> On May 29, 2024, at 20:15, Bruce Schuck  wrote:
> 
> On 5/29/24 18:01:33 -0700, John Ralls wrote:
> 
>> OBTW, I had to force-install 1.62 because
>> Test Summary Report
>> ---
>> t/02-pod-coverage.t  (Wstat: 512 Tests: 0 Failed: 0)
>>   Non-zero exit status: 2
>>   Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output
>> Files=67, Tests=83,  5 wallclock secs ( 0.05 usr  0.06 sys +  3.61 cusr  
>> 0.60 csys =  4.32 CPU)
>> Result: FAIL
>> Failed 1/67 test programs. 0/83 subtests failed.
>> make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255
>>   BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.62.tar.gz
>>   /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK
> 
> John,
> 
> Can you do me a favor and update the Perl module Moose? And try a reinstall 
> of Finance::Quote.

Bruce,

OK. F::Q test results were the same.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] YahooJSON Failing Again?

2024-05-29 Thread John Ralls


> On May 29, 2024, at 16:09, Bruce Schuck  wrote:
> 
> Just started failing for me again this afternoon. The never ending game of 
> whack-a-mole continues.
> 
> For those having the same issue I suggest:
> 
> alphavantage (needs an API key)
> twelvedata (needs an API key)
> 
> Web page scrapers
> googleweb
> marketwatch
> fool
> yahooweb
> 
> On the roadmap, you may want to get an api key from https://financeapi.net 
> (100 API calls per day limit).
> 
> Not sure of the availability of quotes for securities traded on non-US 
> exchanges, sorry.

Bruce,

Somebody filed https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799322 earlier today so 
it’s not just you. OTOH it might have been a temporary problem:
/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q dump yahoo_json AAPL
Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
Finance::Quote fields GnuCash uses:
symbol: AAPL<=== required
  date: 05/29/2024  <=== recommended
  currency: USD <=== required
  last: 190.29  <=\
   nav: <=== one of these
 price: <=/

At 5:57 PM today.

Regards,
John Ralls

OBTW, I had to force-install 1.62 because
Test Summary Report
---
t/02-pod-coverage.t  (Wstat: 512 Tests: 0 Failed: 0)
  Non-zero exit status: 2
  Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output
Files=67, Tests=83,  5 wallclock secs ( 0.05 usr  0.06 sys +  3.61 cusr  0.60 
csys =  4.32 CPU)
Result: FAIL
Failed 1/67 test programs. 0/83 subtests failed.
make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255
  BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.62.tar.gz
  /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash on Debian

2024-05-26 Thread John Ralls


> On May 26, 2024, at 12:58, Mike Evans  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> 
> Just moved to debian from Fedora and after installing with apt I get:
> 
> /usr/bin/gnucash: symbol lookup error: 
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gnucash/gnucash/libgnc-gnome-utils.so: undefined 
> symbol: gnc_filter_text_for_currency_commodity

Mike,

Sounds like a library version mismatch. The function should be in 
libgnc-app-utils.so <http://libgnc-app-utils.so/>. Make sure that you have only 
one in your ld.so.conf search path and that it’s the one that belongs to the 
version of GnuCash you have installed.
The function was added in 4.6; bookworm has 4.13 (5.6 is available in 
bookworm-backports should you want the latest release).

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GnuCash works on clean install of Ubuntu 24.04

2024-05-23 Thread John Ralls
Good that it works, I guess. Is the cause of the problem the broken Nvidia 
drivers?

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 23, 2024, at 10:00, Mark at Lorimark  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey, run gnucash with this to get it to show reports;
> 
>> WEBKIT_DISABLE_COMPOSITING_MODE=1 gnucash
> 
> ~mark petryk
> ~w:http://www.lorimarksolutions.com
> 
> On 5/23/24 11:25, Bruce Griffis wrote:
>> I saw the message on GnuCash not working on an upgrade to Ubuntu 24.04.
>> Just wanted to say that it works on a fresh install. I wanted to go 24.04,
>> so did a fresh install than restored /home from backups. While that works,
>> if you have a lot of customized packages installed instead of just things
>> from the Ubuntu Software store or snaps - it can get hard to maintain. For
>> me, Rocksmith 2014 under Steam just doesn't work on 24.04 - so there are
>> broken things. But GnuCash was pretty cool (other than reports not
>> displaying).
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Re: [GNC] Can't download stock prices

2024-05-21 Thread John Ralls
Ernie,

You probably built it for the wrong architecture. GnuCash is x86_64 so all of 
the perl modules that aren’t pure perl need to be multi-architecture. See 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Online_Quotes#Installing_Finance::Quote_on_macOS_from_a_Terminal_prompt
 for an explanation.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 21, 2024, at 19:16, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
> 
> HI John and Gnucash Supporters,
> 
> I was afraid you were going to say that.  As far as I can tell, I have 
> JSON::Parse installed, but gnucash-cli is not finding it.
> 
> Ernie-Mac-mini% cpan JSON::Parse
> Loading internal logger. Log::Log4perl recommended for better logging
> Reading '/Users/Ernie_1/.cpan/Metadata'
>   Database was generated on Tue, 21 May 2024 02:17:02 GMT
> JSON::Parse is up to date (0.62).
> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
> Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules JSON::Parse
> 
> Sorry to keep troubling you.
> 
> Reards,
> Ernie
> Just an old FORTRAN programmer
> 
> 
>> On 22 May 2024, at 1:48 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> Depends on the bug. Just like every other development team they have more 
>> bugs than engineers so they have to prioritize. Some things get fixed 
>> quickly, others take a while, and some never get attention. I don’t know who 
>> maintains the libc that Apple uses. If it’s FreeBSD then they won’t consider 
>> it a bug because their file systems are case sensitive.
>> 
>> As for what to do, that should be obvious: Spell the path correctly, where 
>> spell includes case.
>> You also need to run gnc-update-fq again to get JSON::Parse installed.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2024, at 22:00, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One could hope Apple will fix bugs in a timely manner :-p.  
>>> 
>>> So what should I do to workaround this bug or am I hosed?
>>> 
>>> Ernie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 21 May 2024, at 1:21 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hah! I didn’t even notice that. It’s pretty funny.
>>>> 
>>>> The *file system* is by default case-preserving, meaning that you can 
>>>> create either macOS or MacOS but not both; preserving means that it will 
>>>> keep whichever one you create first. The shell is too, though Bash 
>>>> completion is case-sensitive. Apparently dlopen is case-sensitive too: 
>>>> when we call 
>>>> `dlopen(/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib,
>>>>  0x0009)` it fails to find the file. You can see this yourself by running 
>>>>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli --debug 
>>>> —logto=stdout -Q info
>>>> It’s in the first line of output.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m going to file a bug with Apple on that if it’s still true when the 
>>>> first macOS 15 developer beta comes out in 3 weeks. Maybe they’ll fix it.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 20, 2024, at 18:07, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Very strange.  I get two results.
>>>>> 
>>>>> First, following your instructions, by coping and pasting
>>>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % zsh -df
>>>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q 
>>>>> info
>>>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
>>>>> Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules JSON::Parse
>>>>> 
>>>>> But when I type in the command line:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q 
>>>>> info
>>>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
>>>>> * 11:01:28  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from 
>>>>> relative path 
>>>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-dbi not 
>>>>> found.
>>>>> * 11:01:28  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from 
>>>>> relative path 
>>>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-xml not 
>>>>> found.
>>>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR  g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
>>>>> 'source != NULL' failed
>>>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR  g_settings_new_full: a

Re: [GNC] Can't download stock prices

2024-05-21 Thread John Ralls
Depends on the bug. Just like every other development team they have more bugs 
than engineers so they have to prioritize. Some things get fixed quickly, 
others take a while, and some never get attention. I don’t know who maintains 
the libc that Apple uses. If it’s FreeBSD then they won’t consider it a bug 
because their file systems are case sensitive.

As for what to do, that should be obvious: Spell the path correctly, where 
spell includes case.
You also need to run gnc-update-fq again to get JSON::Parse installed.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 20, 2024, at 22:00, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
> 
> One could hope Apple will fix bugs in a timely manner :-p.  
> 
> So what should I do to workaround this bug or am I hosed?
> 
> Ernie
> 
> 
>> On 21 May 2024, at 1:21 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> Hah! I didn’t even notice that. It’s pretty funny.
>> 
>> The *file system* is by default case-preserving, meaning that you can create 
>> either macOS or MacOS but not both; preserving means that it will keep 
>> whichever one you create first. The shell is too, though Bash completion is 
>> case-sensitive. Apparently dlopen is case-sensitive too: when we call 
>> `dlopen(/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib,
>>  0x0009)` it fails to find the file. You can see this yourself by running 
>>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli --debug —logto=stdout 
>> -Q info
>> It’s in the first line of output.
>> 
>> I’m going to file a bug with Apple on that if it’s still true when the first 
>> macOS 15 developer beta comes out in 3 weeks. Maybe they’ll fix it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2024, at 18:07, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very strange.  I get two results.
>>> 
>>> First, following your instructions, by coping and pasting
>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % zsh -df
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
>>> Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules JSON::Parse
>>> 
>>> But when I type in the command line:
>>> 
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
>>> * 11:01:28  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from 
>>> relative path 
>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-dbi not found.
>>> * 11:01:28  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from 
>>> relative path 
>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-xml not found.
>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR  g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
>>> 'source != NULL' failed
>>> * 11:01:28 ERROR  g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' 
>>> failed
>>> * 11:01:28  WARN  
>>> [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown 
>>> gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
>>> zsh: segmentation fault  
>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>> 
>>> The two command lines are seemingly the same, but the difference is macOS 
>>> and MacOS.  I thought the shell was not case sensitive.  h  The 
>>> behavior is the same when I exit from the default shell.
>>> 
>>> I did check the directory and it is MacOS.
>>> 
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% cd /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% ls
>>> Info.plist  MacOS   PkgInfo Resources   _CodeSignature
>>> Ernie-Mac-mini% 
>>> 
>>> Odd that it would behave differently.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Ernie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 21 May 2024, at 2:50 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ernie,
>>>> 
>>>> The double slash is present in my output too, and it’s harmless. 
>>>> 
>>>> That shows that the app bundle is complete and uncorrupted. Something is 
>>>> getting in the way of dlopen finding those two libraries.
>>>> 
>>>> Try getting a purely default shell environment by running 
>>>>zsh -df
>>>> That opens a new sub shell with no environment variables set and ignoring 
>>>> all of your zsh config files. You can quit back to your regular shell with 
>>>> d, but first try running 
>>>>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Cont

Re: [GNC] Can't download stock prices

2024-05-20 Thread John Ralls
Hah! I didn’t even notice that. It’s pretty funny.

The *file system* is by default case-preserving, meaning that you can create 
either macOS or MacOS but not both; preserving means that it will keep 
whichever one you create first. The shell is too, though Bash completion is 
case-sensitive. Apparently dlopen is case-sensitive too: when we call 
`dlopen(/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib,
 0x0009)` it fails to find the file. You can see this yourself by running 
  /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli --debug —logto=stdout -Q 
info
It’s in the first line of output.

I’m going to file a bug with Apple on that if it’s still true when the first 
macOS 15 developer beta comes out in 3 weeks. Maybe they’ll fix it.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 20, 2024, at 18:07, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
> 
> Very strange.  I get two results.
> 
> First, following your instructions, by coping and pasting
> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % zsh -df
> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli
> Failed to initialize Finance::Quote: missing_modules JSON::Parse
> 
> But when I type in the command line:
> 
> Ernie-Mac-mini% /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
> * 11:01:28  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from relative 
> path 
> * 11:01:28 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-dbi not found.
> * 11:01:28  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from relative 
> path 
> * 11:01:28 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-xml not found.
> * 11:01:28 ERROR  g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
> 'source != NULL' failed
> * 11:01:28 ERROR  g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' 
> failed
> * 11:01:28  WARN  [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] 
> Ignoring attempt to access unknown gsettings schema 
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
> zsh: segmentation fault  /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli 
> -Q info
> 
> The two command lines are seemingly the same, but the difference is macOS and 
> MacOS.  I thought the shell was not case sensitive.  h  The behavior is 
> the same when I exit from the default shell.
> 
> I did check the directory and it is MacOS.
> 
> Ernie-Mac-mini% cd /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents
> Ernie-Mac-mini% ls
> Info.plistMacOS   PkgInfo Resources   _CodeSignature
> Ernie-Mac-mini% 
> 
> Odd that it would behave differently.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Ernie
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 21 May 2024, at 2:50 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> Ernie,
>> 
>> The double slash is present in my output too, and it’s harmless. 
>> 
>> That shows that the app bundle is complete and uncorrupted. Something is 
>> getting in the way of dlopen finding those two libraries.
>> 
>> Try getting a purely default shell environment by running 
>>zsh -df
>> That opens a new sub shell with no environment variables set and ignoring 
>> all of your zsh config files. You can quit back to your regular shell with 
>> d, but first try running 
>>   /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2024, at 22:22, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks John,
>>> 
>>> I ran the below commands and this is what I got.
>>> 
>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % spctl --assess -vv /applications/gnucash.app
>>> /applications/gnucash.app: accepted
>>> source=Notarized Developer ID
>>> origin=Developer ID Application: John D Ralls (Y9EHT5WMK7)
>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % otool -L 
>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib
>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib:
>>> @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>> @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-backend-sql.dylib 
>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>> @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-engine.dylib (compatibility 
>>> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>> @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libdbi.3.dylib (compatibility version 
>>> 4.0.0, current version 4.0.0)
>>> @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-core-utils.dylib 
>>> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>>> @executable_path/

Re: [GNC] Can't download stock prices

2024-05-20 Thread John Ralls
Ernie,

The double slash is present in my output too, and it’s harmless. 

That shows that the app bundle is complete and uncorrupted. Something is 
getting in the way of dlopen finding those two libraries.

Try getting a purely default shell environment by running 
   zsh -df
That opens a new sub shell with no environment variables set and ignoring all 
of your zsh config files. You can quit back to your regular shell with 
d, but first try running 
  /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/gnucash-cli -Q info

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 19, 2024, at 22:22, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
> 
> Thanks John,
> 
> I ran the below commands and this is what I got.
> 
> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % spctl --assess -vv /applications/gnucash.app
> /applications/gnucash.app: accepted
> source=Notarized Developer ID
> origin=Developer ID Application: John D Ralls (Y9EHT5WMK7)
> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % otool -L 
> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib
> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib:
>   @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-backend-sql.dylib 
> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-engine.dylib (compatibility 
> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libdbi.3.dylib (compatibility version 
> 4.0.0, current version 4.0.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-core-utils.dylib 
> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_regex.dylib (compatibility 
> version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_date_time.dylib 
> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicui18n.73.dylib (compatibility 
> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicuuc.73.dylib (compatibility 
> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicudata.73.dylib (compatibility 
> version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility 
> version 13.0.0, current version 13.0.0)
>   @executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
> version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
>   /usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
> 1300.36.0)
>   /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
> version 1319.0.0)
> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini contents % 
> 
> Compared to your output, the only difference I can find is in the first line 
> where I have a double slash:
> 
> @executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
> (compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
> 
> Just eyeballing, everything else looks the same. Could this double slash be 
> causing me troubles?
> 
> Ernie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 20 May 2024, at 1:52 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 19, 2024, at 18:03, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> First time user of this mailing list and just starting to use gnucash.  
>>> Been transferring information over from Quicken and I am getting things 
>>> close to the way I would like.
>>> 
>>> I am trying to download stock prices, but getting the following errors.
>>> 
>>> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini ~ % 
>>> /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli -Q info
>>> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
>>> * 11:59:02  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from 
>>> relative path 
>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-dbi not found.
>>> * 11:59:02  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from 
>>> relative path 
>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-xml not found.
>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR  g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
>>> 'source != NULL' failed
>>> * 11:59:02 ERROR  g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' 
>>> failed
>>> * 11:59:02  WARN  
>>> [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] Ignoring attempt t

Re: [GNC] Can't download stock prices

2024-05-19 Thread John Ralls


> On May 19, 2024, at 18:03, Ernie Wakamatsu  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> First time user of this mailing list and just starting to use gnucash.  Been 
> transferring information over from Quicken and I am getting things close to 
> the way I would like.
> 
> I am trying to download stock prices, but getting the following errors.
> 
> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini ~ % /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli 
> -Q info
> Application Path /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli
> * 11:59:02  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-dbi from relative 
> path 
> * 11:59:02 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-dbi not found.
> * 11:59:02  WARN  failed to load gncmod-backend-xml from relative 
> path 
> * 11:59:02 ERROR  required library gncmod-backend-xml not found.
> * 11:59:02 ERROR  g_settings_schema_source_lookup: assertion 
> 'source != NULL' failed
> * 11:59:02 ERROR  g_settings_new_full: assertion 'schema != NULL' 
> failed
> * 11:59:02  WARN  [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_obj()] 
> Ignoring attempt to access unknown gsettings schema 
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.general
> zsh: segmentation fault  /Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/macOS/gnucash-cli 
> -Q info
> Ernie@Ernie-Mac-mini ~ % 
> 
> As you can tell, I am on a Mac Mini running Sonoma 14.4.1 (latest?).  Looks 
> like I may be missing some files.  Tried the wiki and other search engines 
> but not finding any answers.  How can I resolve the above?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Not quite the latest macOS version, 14.5 dropped last week. That’s unlikely to 
matter.

The two files that it can’t find, libgncmon-backend-dbi.dylib and 
libgncmod-backend-xml.dylib, should be in 
/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Rsources/lib/gnucash. If you have Xcode or 
Xcode command line tools installed and they’re present you can run e.g.
  otool -L 
/Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib
The output should be
Applications/Gnucash.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib:
@executable_path/../Resources//lib/gnucash/libgncmod-backend-dbi.dylib 
(compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-backend-sql.dylib 
(compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-engine.dylib (compatibility 
version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libdbi.3.dylib (compatibility version 
4.0.0, current version 4.0.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgnc-core-utils.dylib 
(compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_regex.dylib (compatibility 
version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libboost_date_time.dylib 
(compatibility version 0.0.0, current version 0.0.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicui18n.73.dylib (compatibility 
version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicuuc.73.dylib (compatibility 
version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libicudata.73.dylib (compatibility 
version 73.0.0, current version 73.2.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgmodule-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libintl.8.dylib (compatibility 
version 13.0.0, current version 13.0.0)
@executable_path/../Resources/lib/libgobject-2.0.0.dylib (compatibility 
version 7601.0.0, current version 7601.3.0)
/usr/lib/libc++.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 
1300.36.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current 
version 1319.0.0)

You can check that the application bundle is complete and matches its code 
signature with
  spctl —assess -vv /Applications/Gnucash.app
It should report
  /Applications/Gnucash.app/: accepted
  source=Notarized Developer ID
  origin=Developer ID Application: John D Ralls (Y9EHT5WMK7)

Regards,
John Ralls

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