Re: [Goanet] Toronto Goan Convention
Thank you Oscar. Goans must boot-strap themselves to success. Focus, hard-work, and staying positive will make a real difference in the long-run. George --- On Sat, 8/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My thanks to Mrs. Almeida. It? is very interesting (and laudable) to note that she came up with specific action items resulting from the convention. So she chose to light a candle, where others, given to politicking, could only curse the darkness. It is also a proof that finding common ground and building on it can be achieved when Goans come together. Kudos to the Sudharop folks. Oscar -Original Message- A short perspective by Mrs. Acaria Almeida, Treasurer, Goa Sudharop A reflective question as a delegate who attended the convention: What were our take aways from this convention?
[Goanet] Literary congregations (sahitya sammelans)
Economic and Political Weekly, EPW [http://www.epw.in], is a magazine that's usually thought-provoking, and I recently renewed my subscription to it (Rs 3200 for individuals for three years). In the July 12, 2008 issue, there's an interesting article of relevance to Goa, titled 'One for the (Cyber) Road. It's by that iconoclast who writes under the initials of GPD, and says: The Marathi Sahitya Sammelans have been th evictim of the crass vulgarity that characterises our literary culture. The Konkani sammelans -- of various shapes and forms -- have also been patterned on their larger, Marathi counterparts. So it's anyone's guess how relevant this debate is to us here in Goa. GPD writes: During colonial times, there was a justified feeling that all cultural and social activity of people must have a collective aspect. Cultural professionals should meet once a year at least and exchange views and experience. It was justice Ranade who started it all towards the end of the 19th century. The idea was that one of the senior cultural activists, in this case, a Marathi author, would be selected to give a lead to the discussions. Being so elected acquired before long a status of (a) Nobel. Or nearly so! Year after year the celebratory nature of the collective increased and now the process of election has acquired a status akin to that of the election to the chairmanship of a sugar cooperative. He adds: It is a part of the Indian psyche that we seem to be reluctant to see that literature si basically to be privately enjoyed. I think our poetry readings are responsible for it. In none of the advanced societies the phenomenon of a score of poets and 50 odd poems being applauded in one evening ever takes place The Marathi Sahitya Sammelans have been a victim of this crassness. And yet, ordinary people throng these celebrations with great enthusiasm. They buy books worth several lakhs of rupees. They venerate their idols and icons -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
[Goanet] Fw: Lourdes Miracles
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] As you can see, the procedure described below is clearly not a scientific procedure of any kind. ***I am giving here the report of the Eucharistic miracle. We believe in the real presence of the Risen Lord in the Eucharist under the species of bread and wine. Christian faith is not based on miracles. The miracle confirms it. What would be Dr.Santosh's scientific procedure? For my neuroscience this can never happen!... This is laughable! Let us humbly accept the reality. We know how much we do not know! Regards. Fr.Ivo The Eucharistic Miracles The first Eucharistic miracle took place in the Naju Parish Church on 5th June 1988 during Mass when Julia Kim received Holy Communion and the Sacred Host turned into flesh and blood in her mouth. Since then, she has experienced this miracle on many occasions, both in Naju and abroad. It has been witnessed by many people, including priests, the Pope's representatives and even the Holy Father himself when Julia visited the Vatican in October 1995. During a private Mass celebrated by the Holy Father, Julia received Holy Communion and the Eucharistic miracle occurred again, for the twelfth time. The Sacred Host turned to flesh and blood on Julia's tongue. The newsletter, Mary's Touch, reported, Immediately after the Mass, the Holy Father, came to Julia and witnessed this miracle. His Holiness blessed Julia and her companions. On 17th September 1996, a Eucharistic miracle took place in the Sacred Heart Cathedral in Sibu, Sarawak (Malaysia), when Julia Kim, together with about 3,000 people, were present for Mass concelebrated by Bishop Dominic Su, Mgr William Bos, Fr Tom Connors, Fr Francis Su, Fr Jacob Ong and Fr Paul Chee. During the homily, Bishop Su emphasised the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist and the healing power of the Eucharistic Lord. When Julia Kim received Holy Communion a short while later, the Sacred Host on her tongue turned into flesh and blood in the shape of a heart. Many people witnessed this miracle and, as on previous occasions, photographs were taken. A few minutes later, Julia consumed the flesh. In his testimony, Bishop Su said,Our Lord performed this miracle in order to confirm our faith in his Real Presence in the Eucharist. To him be the glory and praise for ever and ever! Other miraculous signs that have occurred in Naju include a vision in July 1995 during a service to celebrate the anniversary of the first time Our Lady's statue shed tears. Julia saw the wooden figure of Jesus on the cross turn to flesh and bleed at seven places on his body. The seven wounds then turned into white round hosts which floated down to rest on the altar before Our Lady's statue. When Julia consumed one of the sacred Hosts later, it turned into flesh and blood. The two priests celebrating Mass, dipped their fingers in the blood, showed this to the people and wiped their fingers on a piece of white cloth, which is preserved in the chapel at Naju. All these signs and wonders have touched many people and a committee has been formed to investigate and examine the evidence. The Church in Naju hopes that the revelations there will be officially approved by the Pope, and the Church and the whole world will be renewed by the mercy of God through our Blessed Mother. From the Nunciature The Apostolic Pro-Nuncio in Korea, Most Rev Giovanni Bulaitis, wrote to Bishop Dominic Su, It has come to my knowledge, the wonderful manifestation of the Holy Eucharist which took place in your presence last September. This Nunciature is gathering material relating to events involving Julia and I should be most grateful if you could share with me the experience with a documentation, witness-reports and photographs. As you may know, I myself assisted at a marvelous presence of the Eucharist in November 1994(Page 50, The Holy Eucharist and the Blessed Mother. Publisher:Sacred Heart's Audio visual Centre, PB-495, 96007, Sibu, Malaysia) Bishop's report In response to this letter, Bishop Dominic Su wrote, Thank you for your letter, dated 1st November, 1996. I was caught totally unprepared when this extraordinary Eucharistic phenomenon occurred in our Sacred Heart Cathedral, Sibu on 17th September, 1996 during our Eucharistic celebration from 7.30 p.m. to 9.30 p.m. When I think over it now, I can see that it was good for me to be caught unprepared. Had I expected before hand that this mysterious incident would happen, I would have got a pyx ready to get this flesh and blood from the mouth of Mrs. Julia Kim for laboratory analysis. This would show that my faith in the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist would have to depend on scientific proof. What Jesus wants from us is our child-like faith in Him and not an intellectual type of faith based on science and reasonings. That is why some Catholics, including a few priests, no longer believe in the real presence of
Re: [Goanet] Reduplicatives
Dev tuka chodd ani chodd borém korum, mogal Domnic-ba, Ia matreaponar fatreaponar soglea dupodanchi fulpodamchi ekdomunch cocktail zata... Moi mogan thumchó zantte-piraientló chacha.. Alfred From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:23:08 +0530 Subject: [Goanet] Reduplicatives Dear Alfred, (1) Per my knowledge, ‘askin’ = apron; ‘bontor vo banddxirem’ = rag - in Bardez, we use the word ‘banddxirem’. A girl/woman supposedly ran short of a piece of rag (Before introduction of disposable menstrual pads in 1895, women often used strips of folded old cloth [rags] to catch their menstrual blood); hence, she tore her askin (apron) and made use of it as a rag. ani bontor nam munon...chedvan askin pinjilém ... (askin: sanitary towel of the times)(2) Alon dolon gue.chedvan dantém manilém udok nam munon chevan mut'an kaloilem...The lines go as follows: - Apttun-dopttun* gho, cheddvan dantem manddilem - Udok nam mhunnon cheddvan mutan kaloilem *the grinding stones were quite heavy; so, they were set on each other with great difficulty - ‘apttun-dopttun’.(3) Alon dolon gue … – These words belong to another Dulpod; the lines go as follows: - Te bhaimchem udoku, cheddum kadd’ta goddgodditu- Ani alot-dolot et gho cheddum, nanv Morgoritu Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Gaumvaddy, Anjuna http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2008-August/authorpost_id=078605 http://www.goanet.org/post.php?name=Newslist=goanetinfo=2008-August/authorpost_id=078599 _ From salsa lessons to filmy gossip, news to music concerts - watch it all on MSN Video http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-in _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline
[Goanet] Whazzupgoa
Please post updates of what's happening in Goa to WhazzupGoa http://groups.google.com/group/whazzupgoa Also looking out for volunteers willing to maintain and update this list. Rgds, FN -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
[Goanet] Football Referees’ Coaching Classes in Kuwait
www.goa-world.com Quality. Precision. Professional. Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ (since 1994 moderated by Gaspar Almeida Ulysses Menezes, www.goa-world.com ) Football Referees’ Coaching Classes in Kuwait Football Referees’ Coaching Classes for New Recruits and Refresher Classes for Active Members will be conducted by the Indian Football Referees’ Association (IFRA) Kuwait from 15th August 2008 at the Indian Community School, Salmiya from 9.30 a.m onwards. All new candidates desiring to qualify as Football Referees are requested to contact Mr. Sarto Baptista - Tel: 5611621 (after 6 p.m.) , Mr. Junifer Rodrigues - Tel: 5633261 (after 3 p.m.) and/or Mr. Diago Rebello - Tel: 6776040 for more information. Indian Football Referees' Association (IFRA) Kuwait Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] About IFRA: http://gasparalmeidawrites.blogspot.com/2007/12/indian-football-referees-association.html http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/20410 Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ GULF-GOANS e-NEWSLETTER (Since 1994) http://www.irte.com/airc.htm www.cry.org In Kuwait www.focc.kwt email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CRY, the link between Children in need and YOU. http://www.nutrispeak.com/Images/Cancer%20book%202%20inch.jpg UPCOMING EVENT IN KUWAIT SILVER JUBILEE CELEBRATIONS OF 'GULAB' IN KUWAIT GULAB SILVER JUBILEE CELEBRATIONS IN KUWAIT Gulab Silver Jubilee Celebrations will kick off on 61st India’s Independence Day, August 15, 2008, with Konkani Tiatr “Ghorabeache Vantte” written and directed by Mario Menezes (Tragedy King) which will be held at the Hawally A.C. Auditorium (Masrah Hawally) at 4:15 p.m. sharp. For Gate passes contact Raja Stores (Kuwait City) Tel: 2412970, MM Confectionery (Salmiya) Tel: 5619946, (Abbasiya) Tel: 9106617, (Fahaheel) Tel: 9884681, (Khaitan) Tel: 9391452, (Farwaniya) Tel: 9540232 According to the press release by Kala Mogui Kuwait and Gulab Working Committee, Kuwait Goan Association, Colva United Centre, Kuwait-Goa Tiatristanchi Sonvstha (KGTS), NRI Club 9, Nuvem Kuwait Parishioners (NKP) and Goan Welfare Society are among the organizations which are supporting this 'special event'. Mahableshwar http://www.mahableshwar.com St. Mary's High School - Mt Abu, Rajasthan India http://www.abusms.com Visit Goa's favourite website THE GOAN FORUM http://www.colaco.net http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/goa-goans/ Goa World Goa Mog Goa SuRaj Super Goa (em Português) TGF Writers' Sketchpad www.colaco.net PICK OF THE WEEK: “Ostoreamni Machier Kam’ Korun Aple Ghorabe Sambhall’lleat” – Rosy Alvares http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/8069 Great Goan Art exhibit by ALEXYZ in California http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/20436 In good humour - The King of Mimicry Xec Amir (Sheikh Amir) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gulf-goans/message/20240 Goa's Pride - http://www.goa-world.com http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=_Avn6_AepNwamp;feature=related Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter is presented by Ulysses Menezes, www.goa-world.com and moderated by Gaspar Almeida (since 1994)
[Goanet] Daily Grook #183
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Re: [Goanet] Fw: Lourdes Miracles
As you can see from the post quoted below, contrary to earlier claims not even a bureaucratic committee meeting was called to certify these incredible miracles, let alone follow any kind of genuine scientific procedure. The supernatural claims made by an individual and her priests were accepted without any independent verification by unbiased expert observers or by any kind of actual tests to ascertain whether real flesh and blood had materialized. Nobody bothered to investigate whether they were human flesh and blood. No samples of the flesh and blood were preserved for a subsequent thorough scientific examination to rule out the very likely possibility of pious fraud, and to establish the validity of not just the immediate extraordinary claims, but indeed the tenability of the entire belief system surrounding them. A real scientific procedure would demand one to find out if the tissue and blood in question matches that of anybody connected with this event, primarily Julia Kim. Scientists would want to know if both X and Y chromosomes were present in the cells from the flesh and in the white blood cells, because of the claim of virgin birth. They would ask that nuclear and mitochondrial DNA be sequenced, so Korean ancestry could be ruled in or out, and the correct geneology be determined. The level of gullibility displayed in the quoted post indicates that the people involved in propagating such miracles do not want their claims to be subjected to real scientific tests, and face the prospect of disillusionment. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Fr. Ivo C da Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ***I am giving here the report of the Eucharistic miracle. We believe in the real presence of the Risen Lord in the Eucharist under the species of bread and wine. Christian faith is not based on miracles. The miracle confirms it. What would be Dr.Santosh's scientific procedure? For my neuroscience this can never happen!... This is laughable! Let us humbly accept the reality. We know how much we do not know! Regards. Fr.Ivo The Eucharistic Miracles
[Goanet] Mau Mau
Interesting definitions FN. Doubt whether these were known in the Kenya of the 50s when Mau Mau was associated with the subversive movement, oath taking etc which started initially among the Kikuyu tribe and later spread. BTW a Mau Mau Film Festival has just been on in Nairobi from 6th-10th August. Mervyn
Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] Goa news for August 10, 2008. Two questions.
Where exactly in Goa is the Sunday Bazzar held??? The article misses out on this. I will be in Goa with a group of 30 foreigners during October 13th to 17th. Are there any interesting events taking place during this period?? Many Thanks, Prabhat Kapil ( P K ) Mobile 00 48 66 11 0 72 18 Landline 00 48 22 654 46 85 Skype: pkinpoland Ulica Łucka 20 m 44; Warsaw; 00-845 Poland. __ --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Goanet News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Goanet News Service [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet-News] Goa news for August 10, 2008 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 1:30 AM Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** BJP to seek special status for Goa - TopNews [15 hours ago] Panaji, Aug 9 : The Opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) will seek special status for Goa on the lines of Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand, where certain ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.topnews.in/bjp-seek-special-status-goa-257813cid=1235085409ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCwusg=AFQjCNFTlwue9QiMsUudSMIYYnDu6_pKbA *** Goa to get speed governors for public transport vehicles - Times of India [21 hours ago] PANAJI: The Goa government will soon implement a decision taken at the state transport ministers conference in Delhi to install speed governors for public ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_to_get_speed_governors_for_public_transport_vehicles/articleshow/3344391.cmscid=1235083193ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCwusg=AFQjCNH-Q84gec6jAXtvx2yyhJ87ncIumA *** Call to exclude Goa from 2008 CMZ Call to exclude Goa from 2008 CMZ - Herald Publications [18 hours ago] PANJIM, AUG 8 #148; At a consultative meeting held here today, activists and organizations in one voice demanded that Goa be excluded from Coastal Management ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://oheraldo.in/pagedetails.asp?nid=8132cid=2cid=0ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCwusg=AFQjCNG61nNB8hZQ3DK73ewHHoXQBJ20aQ *** Top India chefs to cook at Goan food fest - The Times [1 hour ago] The exotic flavours of India and Portugal will mingle at the Goan Food Festival at Umhlangas Beverly Hills Hotel from August 23 to 30. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.thetimes.co.za/PrintEdition/News/Article.aspx?id=818505cid=0ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCwusg=AFQjCNFKznhzjl0wwQVxJBExhP6ArcTzQQ *** A million mutinies now - Times of India [7 minutes ago] The newspapers Hillary Gonsalves nowadays keeps company, nourish his invective against the detrition of Goa's land and life. But more significant than stale ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Review/A_million_mutinies_now/articleshow/3347087.cmscid=0ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCwusg=AFQjCNGgSQ44WPJQJ5yIUEGkMPq6APWXcA *** INDIA Church Cautious About Laws To Protect Old Goa, Ancient ... - Union of Catholic Asian News [50 minutes ago] OLD GOA, India (UCAN) -- Church people in Goa have taken a cautious stand on a government proposal to protect Old Goa, the onetime Portuguese colonial base ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ucanews.com/2008/08/08/church-cautious-about-laws-to-protect-old-goa-ancient-mission-center/cid=0ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCwusg=AFQjCNGIuE-2upD2qf6esWoFnmsu1KYuBw *** BJP to seek special status for Goa - NDTV.com [19 hours ago] PTI Opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) will move a resolution in the ensuing session of the Goa Assembly seeking special status for the tourist state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080060718cid=1235104543ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCwusg=AFQjCNEWx8fqdkT2RDzCAMk5ug_WrxwAaA *** Goa society seeks support to take over int\'l film fest - Times of India [6 hours ago] MUMBAI: The Entertainment Society of Goa (ESG) has asked the film industry to support them in their plan to take over the International Film Festival of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Goa_society_seeks_support_to_take_over_intl_film_fest_/articleshow/3344511.cmscid=0ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCwusg=AFQjCNG7jAEtqK2Xonu4t_CurWHbDCCPlw *** Sunday, Goa style - Times of India [6 hours ago] The monthly bizzare buzzaar at this Goan hotspot is really the most exciting way to spend ones Sunday. The August edition, which was marred by the ban on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Sunday_Goa_style/articleshow/3345571.cmscid=0ei=eiieSNX4E57IgAOmneTaCwusg=AFQjCNGaFueTv_GFpz7u5BThz6xRMTE4OQ *** Foodies day out in Goa - Times of India [6 hours ago] Foodies in Goa have another reason to cheer for. At the Goa Marriott Resort, Independence week is
[Goanet] TOO MANY DIGEST MESSAGES
Dear sirs, Kindly ensure I do not get more than 3 or 4 Digests per day.I am getting around 10 daily plus Goa local News bulletins.I have already requested to please discontinue so many; also Goa News bulletins since I read all the local dailies and TV channels for Goa News. I got an acknowledgement from goanet DONE, but to date nothing seems to have been done.Request look into. Thanks..JEG
[Goanet] Son'varachim Sungttam: Gõykaranch o Otmo!
A translation of Jose Salvador Fernandes' Son'varachim Sungttam: Gõykarancho Otmo! I have stayed on the side of the literal since it gives a better flavor of the rhythm and pace of the Konknni language. venantius j pinto The Goan Soul (The Soul of Goans) -- Jose Salvador Fernandes As and when the need arose, I made trips -- two or three, to Mumbai and returned. While travelling to Mumbai by bus, on every trip, I -- my inner being experienced something. The bus having left Margao for Mumbai, after crossing downwards across the undulating Goan boundary, towards the heights -- to enter Maharashtra; at that point this thought swirls in the mind, making it apparent that one has entered into an unfamiliar territory. Later this sense of ennui clings to ones being as though having turned into my shadow, while repeatedly speaking of the unfamiliar. You are in peculiar surroundings. In these surrounds there is no one who may be related to your mother -- someone familiar. In this unfamiliar environment – you will pass your days and times; what you will not -- is spend them by opening ones mind and heart to all. Often times, the day is spent under the pressure of a feeling of emptiness. I get -- the feeling that I am surrounded by someone on my maternal side. Having to bear this sensation (of feeling an emptiness) during the journey (at length) and on account of attempting to gain release by kicking it into a corner, I purposely tune my attention, mind and ear to those in the bus speaking in our language. In the sixteenth-seventeenth centuries and in earlier times; if one sits down to read the pages of Konknni history through the lenses of reflection; in those times what position was accorded to Konknni, how did it develop, and in its development -- a result of various formulations realizing a rich literary trove while continually flourishing; this is indeed apparent. During that period, the Konknni language evolved considerably. It attained adulthood. Matured. As this continued, Goa became the main center for Konknni (Konknni sank its roots in Goa). But as we see it, the foundational base of this original language, we could say, has begun crumbling little by little. There was a time, when saying Goan meant a Konknni being. But today's Goan, let alone the aspect of the Konknni being aside, has become, everything else but. The Goan Hindu these days upon being addressed as a Konknni, makes a wry face, a rotten one. If one speaks about Konknni to or in front of the Hindus of today, their faces reflect lines of consternation. The large mass of common Goans have absolutely no interest in their language. Upon observation, lets keep aside the fact that it is being played with in various ways. What is shameful is that he is ashamed to speak his own language, engendering feelings of belittlement. To save his language today --- via subscribing to Konknni papers, magazines, by purchasing and reading them, ensuring they continue to survive by helping in whatever way one can; although this ability exists in body, mind as well as in ones pocket -- one remains an invalid. Despite comprehending that one is connected to ones language, he has become estranged from it. Do we have the unity, that Goa and Konknni -- that they, may never by anyone, undergo being pillaged or ripped apart. When one says Goa, it is synonymous with the Konknni being. Within this Konknni Language is embodied the Goan spirit. It is his soul. It is knowledge / awareness It is identity. But the Konknni masses in the Goa that is today, are a stain on this rich heritage. They are continuing to neglect the relationship between Goa and Konknni. It is for those reasons, that the Goan of today in manners of his speech, lifestyle, dressing is left wanting. If every Goan was as a matter of course to connect Goa and Konknni in their diverse walks of life, in this way the Konknni earth will keep thriving. And if this were to happen, as time slowly passes by, another civilization will be saved from extinction. Konkanim is the mother tongue (avoi / maim bhas -- Sanskrit: mAtRu-bhAShA, Latin: mater lingua) of every Goan. This Konknni is the soul of every Goan. In this Konknni language, is resident the Goan identity. Not merely that, but morever that the Konknni language be the backbone of each and every Goan. Our backbone hereafter should not bend in the least bit. Our soul does not deserve to be beaten and cast aside. Not just in centuries to come, but even in the distant future, our backbone must be held upright, to render towards Konknni, a true service-vocation; in keeping alive the soul of our civilization -- do we have what it takes, within ourselves. -- From: Goa's Pride www.goa-world.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Son'varachim Sungttam:Gõykarancho Otmo! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Son'varachim Sungttam g?Ykarancho Otmo!
[Goanet] The Mau Mau Film Festival
Today(10th Aug) is the last day of the festival in Nairobi. A great treat for those in Nairobi interested in this slice of Kenya's history. 2.30PM: KENYATTA: THE FINAL PART IN THE TRILOGY BY DAVID KOFF ON IMAGES OF COLONISATION AND INDEPENDENCE IN KENYA (52 MINS) The second film is on the 'Untold story of the Cuban Five', and the final film is an interesting documentary on Malcolm X Be interesting to hear comments from any goanetters in Kenya who may have attended this film festival. Mervyn
[Goanet] Breaking NEWS
While it been raining cats dogs in Goa. News has just come in that, there has been a crack developed on Selaulim Dam and people are put on ALERT. hAVE a nICE dAY Seb
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 992
Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 992 Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Momentous Goan Convention We have been subjected to various posts on the Goan Convention in Toronto which are long on words and criticism and short on action! 1. The criticism of the convention - which many of them did not attend at all - after the fact is all well and good: what was needed was our active participation and support before the event. Why report that the attendance was low, when one didn’t do anything oneself to bring people to the convention, and omit the many other positive outcomes of this Convention? How about fewer words and more action? 2. The low attendance at the workshops was due to the fact that they were held mid-week and during the day when most Goans in the Toronto area had to go to work. Secondly, Goans are unable or unwilling to pay $250 registration fee. These 2 factors should be taken into account by future organizers. 3. Another repeated theme was: Why was it called “International Goan Convention?” Easy. Goans are international, we live on many continents and in many countries. Obviously, the organizers were appealing to the international Goan audience out there that participates in Goanet, not just to Goans in Goa. The other reason for calling it “international” was that the organizers chose an outstanding international theme: Networking and Identity. These are activities that we international Goans are interested in. Would these armchair critics be happier if the next Convention is called the “Non-International Goan Convention” or some such equally ridiculous name? 4. Then there’s the ridiculous stream of comments on why was the convention held in Toronto, not in Goa etc. Another easy answer. For the same reason that the Olympics are held in different cities around the world and not just in Greece where they were started. They are held wherever there are hosts willing to take the trouble to organize them in their country. There were hosts willing to organize this Convention in Toronto, hence it was held there. If there are hosts willing to host it in Sweden, go ahead, have it in Sweden. 5. For the naysayers who have been asking obviously skeptical questions about what were the outcomes for Goa, let me ask if these critics have suggestions of outcomes for Goa? We’d be happy to take action. Seems to me that we should be thankful that even a handful of Goans are willing to meet and talk about issues to do with Goa and assume that they have the goodwill to help in their own way. Let those who went to hear the issues and get suggestions from the likes of Dean D’Cruz, Alexyz, and Wendell go their own sincere way instead of making them feel that they were wasting their time! This line of criticism is not exactly encouragement for Goans who care and want to get involved in Goa’s issues. 6. Several comments are critical of the fact that this was partly sponsored by the office of the NRI Commissioner out of the Goan taxpayer’s pocket. From what I gather, this office has funds to liaison with the overseas Goan community. Many overseas Goans have property concerns in Goa. Over 200 Goans in Toronto had a chance to meet Mr. Faleiro and question him. In turn, he had a chance to tell them to invest in Goa and that the Goa government offers matching funds for a village project that we overseas Goans might like to sponsor. Seems to me that these critical and never-satisfied Goans are either complaining that the Goa government isn’t doing enough for Goans or, in this case, doing too much! Filomena Saraswati Giese
[Goanet] A million mutinies now
A million mutinies now 10 Aug 2008, 0250 hrs IST, Joeanna Rebello,TNN Don't call us susegaad, the elderly gent fired, his loose dental artillery nearly ejected by the force of his consternation. That's what they've always called us Goans. No doubt we love our laidback life, but while we were sleeping our government stole our land and sold it to the highest bidder. No...susegaad is what we used to be. The newspapers Hillary Gonsalves nowadays keeps company, nourish his invective against the detrition of Goa's land and life. But more significant than stale complaints against evil-eyed politicos, narrow-eyed builders and cross-eyed sarpanchs is the rising litany of local rebellions. Goans have sat up from their siesta and found half their land under the pylons of housing complexes or hotels-leeching villages of their water and electricity, disgorging sewage into the soil, piling up hills of garbage and causing fish to fly. With their patience fast evaporating, locals have finally collected to chorus their rights, and via that anthem, reclaim their land. The plinths of village panchayats are crowded with villagers who've put the sarpanch squarely in the crosshairs, questioning the grounds on which mega-housing has been blessed, forcing the retraction of NOCs from the town and country planning department and asking their MLAs some uncomfortable questions. As newspaper headlines flash every other day, they've won some substantial victories. Resolutions passed at gram sabhas insist that villagers be briefed about local developments-be it the erection of a residential complex, or the intended usurpation of community land by the government on the false promise of mounting public facilities. Goa has seen one too many land conversions, and the Goans have cottoned on to the chicanery. You can say the chickens have finally come home to roost, says Dr Oscar Rebello, ex-convener of the Goa Bachao Abhiyan (GBA), a volunteer body credited with needling the locals out of their slumber at the time the Regional Plan 2011 (master plan for the state) emerged in 2006. After years of rampant corruption and disastrous governance, the cumulative outrage has now found expression. Though it is an agitation that has yet to be channelled in the right direction. What it is now is largely a reflexive routing of the enemy in the front yard, but corps like the GBA, Council for Social Justice and Peace (CSJP) and Goa Heritage Action Group are eyeing the long road ahead and cobbling a hard strategy to counter the pan-Goa siege. Lionel Messias, an itinerant journalist who has dropped anchor on the island of Divar, is of the opinion that Goans didn't see the landslide coming. The first state-level protests rallied around Regional Plan 2011 and the SEZs. Localised campaigns have taken root only in the last seven or eight months, he says. Large-scale construction started in the 1990s but accelerated in the last decade. As long as all this took place on tourist coordinates and in towns, people kept quiet. But when builders started moving into villages with their scant infrastructure, matters went on the boil. The famous springs of Kesarval forfeited their water to the wells bored by industrial estates in the area. And in Calangute, groundwater got contaminated because septic tanks were lodged in close proximity, offers Fr Maverick Fernandes of CSJP, a Church-backed body that has been mobilising people to assert their rights. Recently we went to the Quepem and Sangeum talukas, where we educated people about the damage to their livelihoods from mining in the hills. Mining lords buy the local vote at public hearings, but we are making the villagers aware of the long-term damage to their forests, agricultural and riverine occupations. Very soon the source of the Kushavati river will dry up at this rate. While organisations like the Council have been the spine of many rallies, one village set the precedent for self-motivation. It was the small village of Carmona in South Goa that pulled off a coup against one of Mumbai's most powerful builders. In March this year, the builder buckled under the communal weight of the 4,500-strong village, which demanded, through a signature campaign, that the sarpanch repeal the approval to build 618 flats and 71 bungalows with indoor pools, in one of those spit-polished complexes. They were going to make a town of the village and treble its population in one sweep, even though resources were grossly disproportionate. Advocates of this pro-urban change cite Bombay as an example, says Serafino Cota, proponent of the people's campaign. They say, 'Don't you want Goa to become multi-cultural like Bombay?' We say, Bombay is a city (one that is done for, anyway), and these are villages and they can't be compared. Some critics perceive the movement as arising from xenophobia. This shrill rhetoric of Goans versus non-Goans is out to put a jingoistic slant on the issue, says Dr Rebello. But this isn't about
[Goanet] Reduplicative: Cathrina-Fodtrina, Moderator-Fodretor etc
Reduplicative: Cathrina-Fodtrina, Moderator-Fodretor etc Ref. ongoing topic on goanet. Well, really speaking, the above are not the right way we used in our daily language ‘Konkani’. The right way would be Cathrina-Batrina, Moderator-Bodoretor. In Konkani, any word or name is Reduplicated/reduplicative by a simple rule. Change the first letter of the word to B (note some exceptions below) e.g. Caitan-Baitan, Kazar-bazar, festam-bestam, Vasco-Basco etc 1. Hem kazar koslem? (Sarkem Ponch!) Kazarak Soro-Boro cainch nam. Meaning, What type of wedding (reception) is this? No alcoholic drinks at all. 2. Ladru: Are khuim re tum? Agxi Festak disonk nam nam mure.. Pedru: Maka festam-bestam lagonant, mojem kam borem haum boro. Meaning Ladru: Where wee you? Could see you at Agasaim Feast (on 10th Aug). Pedru: I am not into Feasts etc. Just me and my work (job). 3 Rohit (a tourist in a Goan restaurant): Can I order two Chicken Tandoori? Carmelin (A typical Goan): Are baba, inga Tandoori-Banduri kainch mevona, focot xit-Koddi meuta. Meaning: (Carmelin) We don’t serve tandoori etc but only goan fish curry rice. 4 Hi xerkos kosli? Tinga makod-bakod cainch nasle (or hoti-boti, xiv-biv, anxel-banxel* unttam-bunttam* etc) Meaning What type of circus is this? There were no animals at all. Some irregulars or exceptions to the rule: (1) If the name/word starts in B then the whole word kept/repeated as it is. e.g. Camil: (10 years ago) tumchea ghora fattleam kitlinxinch bokim (cranes) distalim.. (Or Kitlexinch zaddam distalim) Andre: Antam bokim-bokim kaich nam fogot distat tim ‘buildingam’ (or Antam zaddam-baddam kaich dissonant…) meaning: Camil: We could see many birds (cranes) behind your house or we could see many trees Andre: we don't see cranes etc (Birds) (or trees etc) now but just the buildings (Concrete juncgle). (2) When the first letter of the word/name starts with a vowel (i.e. A, E, I , O , U) then add B before the word ( the new/second word will now have one letter more than the original/first one). e.g. Aros-Baros, Estel-Bestel, Indur-Bindur, ontt-bontt, udhok-Budhok (Pulav, Estel name of a person, Rat, Lips, Water) *Similarly, (the above) Anxel-Banxel (bear), Unttam-Bunttam (Camels) etc That’s enough now for today. More soon from your friendly Professor JoeGoaUk. === Now, the above Fodrina, Foderetor etc remind me of this.. I was just 7 years old. While I was at Cotalim junction (Panjim-Margao-Miguel Rod Road-Sancoale Road). By pointing my finger, I asked my elders.. Hi fekttry kosli? (What factory is that He replied: Kapusachi (meaning cotton Factory) As I grow older, say about 14-15, I said to my self: When cotton is grown on trees then why produced in factory? 2 years later, as I was there for a litany (at Baddeam Furis) near the same Cortalim junction, asked an elderly (a drunkard). ‘He fekttrint kitem kortat? - ‘Fodre-potti’ he replied. I really did not know what it mean at the time. Some years later, I found out the meaning of ‘potti’ i.e. either strip or a belt. It was only when I was about 20, I discovered myself what it really mean. It was nothing but the equivalent of the modern Tampax, Always, kotex, stayfree etc which was then a ‘carefree’ from Christinhood. I must also admit that from the Domnic’s recent post, I now know what it meant by ‘Bontor nam munn gho, cheddvan askin pinjilam’ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
Re: [Goanet] The Mau Mau Film Festival
Dear Mervyn, Just out of curiosity, why do the Kenyans celebrate Mau Mau? Wasn't it a rather unpleasant part of their history. I am trying to gather some information on this and am particularly interested in the role Goans might have played and where their sympathies lay. many thanks, selma --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Mervyn Elsie Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mervyn Elsie Maciel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] The Mau Mau Film Festival To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 3:57 AM Today(10th Aug) is the last day of the festival in Nairobi. A great treat for those in Nairobi interested in this slice of Kenya's history. 2.30PM: KENYATTA: THE FINAL PART IN THE TRILOGY BY DAVID KOFF ON IMAGES OF COLONISATION AND INDEPENDENCE IN KENYA (52 MINS) The second film is on the 'Untold story of the Cuban Five', and the final film is an interesting documentary on Malcolm X Be interesting to hear comments from any goanetters in Kenya who may have attended this film festival. Mervyn
[Goanet] OBITUARY - JOAQUIM MARIANO FRANCO (Kuwait)
O B I T U A R Y JOAQUIM MARIANO FRANCO Expired on 9th August 2008 – Andheri-Mumbai Most loving husband of Emerciana Father/Father-in-Law of: James/Jina Franco (ErnestYoung-Kuwait) Janet (NBK)/Mario (Antonio) Fernandes (Tamdeen-Kuwait) Grandfather of: Jonathan, Calvin, Daniel Dayna Funeral date will be announced later. Eternal Peace grant Unto him Oh Lord. And let Perpetual Light shine Upon him. May his Soul Rest in Peace.
Re: [Goanet] BJP for special status a la Himachal to protect land
It is a good step but won't be enough in a place like Goa. In Himachal Pradesh, non himachalis can buy land by making an application with the State Cabinet. In a state like Goa, where Politicians themselves are involved in land deals, this will become cash machine for politicians and bureaucrats. What is needed is a complete ban on land conversion to settlement zone with some allowances. regards Rishi
[Goanet] Questions about Convention
--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Filomena Giese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been subjected to various posts on the Goan Convention in Toronto which are long on words and criticism and short on action! Dear Filomena, While I agree with the gist of your post, I think it is important to ask questions from the point of learning. The convention is very young, and each experience from it must be a learning experience. In my view, Kevin, Francis, Bosco and other members of the team, are now a great source of information for the next organizers of the convention. We still don't know definitively where this will be. If it is London, I would recommend the next President spend hours with Kevin and other committee members, either in person or on the phone. But we don't have to be defensive about every question raised. Questions are fair game in an event of this magnitude. One thing that failed the convention, was the lack of coverage it got. We barely knew what was going on in Toronto, save for a few photographs that streamed our way. There should have been a full-time press person dedicated to coverage. Eugene's post was the first long, detailed post and unfortunately it set the tone for what followed. I have learnt a lot about the convention since then, and I understand now how much hard work has gone into it and the outcomes that have emerged from it. Issues of press coverage, attendance, objectives, venue, programmes, Faleiro's role in it, are things we can all learn more about from Kevin and his team and hopefuly work on for the next convention. Again congratulations to the organizers of the convention. The sheer hard work that went into it, deserves an award. selma
[Goanet] In support of GULAB
Crystal Focus Club President and Managing Committee seizes this opportunity wish Gulab Working Committee on the occasion of Gulab Silver Jubilee Celebrations in Kuwait on 15 August 2008. May the beauty and fragrance of the blooming Gulab continue to inspire all Goans and spread the message of love to Konkani language lovers all over the globe. One Small Rose- Don't Wait- Give Love Now I would rather have one small rose From the garden of a friend Than to have the choicest flowers When my stay on Earth must end. I would rather have one pleasant word In kindness said to me Than flattery when my heart is still And my life on Earth has ceased to be. I would rather have a loving smile From friends I know are true Than tears shed round my casket When this world I've bid Adieu. Bring me all your flowers today Whether pink, white or red: I'd rather have one blossom now Than a truckload when I'm dead. - Author unknown Crystal Focus Club urges all Goans, Goa Clubs, Associations and organizations in Kuwait to render your support to Gulab. In support of Gulab, Crystal Focus Club - Kuwait [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Goanet] The Mau Mau Film Festival
Guess it depends who's telling the story :-) Goa too has its unpleasant parts which it cherishes today. Fighting colonialism comes at a price, exceptions of Clement Atlee and the needs of British imperialism in the 1940s apart. FN 2008/8/10 Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just out of curiosity, why do the Kenyans celebrate Mau Mau? Wasn't it a rather unpleasant part of their history. -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India Ph +91-832-2409490 M: +91-9970157402 Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
Re: [Goanet] Breaking NEWS
No news about a crack developed on (the) Selaulim dam but we *are* having heavy rains here. The Department of Information and Publicity announced that the District Magistrict (South) has restricted vehicular traffic on National Highway 4A (Panjim to Belgaum) at Anmod Ghat, beyond the Mollem Check Post, due to a landslide in the morning Saturday. Digital Goa (a paid news service) has reported: * Train services on Goa-Londa route suspended due to landslide (Aug 9). * Rains put normal life out of gear across Goa. Lots of trees uprooted, many fallen on houses. Three injured in Sanvordem. Roads and houses flooded in some parts. * Two major highways linking Goa with rest of the country closed at Banda and Anmod due to waterlogging and landslides. * Water levels of rivers and dams rising. FN While it been raining cats dogs in Goa. News has just come in that, there has been a crack developed on Selaulim Dam and people are put on ALERT. hAVE a nICE dAY Seb -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org 784 Nr Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India
[Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
There is a saying :A wise man knows what he says, a fool says what he knows. We as medical doctors mostly say what we know from books, literature, journals, and broadcasted news. But do we know what we say? We say if you smoke, it causes cancer, but do we know why Curchill, FidelCastro, and many others never got cancer? We say coconut oil is bad for the heart; did all from the Konkan and Malabar coast die of heart disease for all these centuries? Do scientists know why there is no Chaos in the movement of the Universe.? It is also said : A fool may easily find more faults than a wise man can easily mend. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. _ Searching for the best deals on travel? Visit MSN Travel. http://msn.coxandkings.co.in/cnk/cnk.do
[Goanet] stop selling your ancestral property in Goa.
Dear Albert, You have incorrectly started your e-mail below with the statement We Goans. Please correct it to read Goans like me, Albert Desouza All of us Goans do not preach like emotional idiots. I personally, salute and congratulate the many Goans who have stayed, worked in Goa and personally contributed their best, to make Goa, the wonderful state it is today, as also, the Goans who are returning from foreign countries,today, after retirement or even earlier to settle down in Goa. Remember - Poor goans are forced to sell property out of poverty. What is the excuse for some Goans who have no love for our state of Goa, who sell inherited, ancestral property and take this wealth out of India, to make foreign countries like Australia, Canada etc. richer? Your statement - Why should they sell the house for five lakhs when they can get eighty lakhs ? Does any one work for lesser salary ? That is the reason they prefer to sell their house for non goans who would give them a nice price. My reply - I have heard criminals too, state that they turned to crime because they could earn Rs. 1 lakh a month or more and as salesmen they earned only Rs. 5,000/- per month. I LOVE GOA. Regards, === From: Albert Desouza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008 8:17:10 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goan selling houses Albert writes:-We goans have the habbit of preaching. We are just emotional. Take an example of a big portuguese house which was actually built to accomodate at least three to four big families. Big halls, big dinning rooms garden etc etc. now worth say forty lakhs or more. Most of the sons have gone to Canada, Australia, US New Zealand. Only one nuclear family lives over there. The family made up of just four members and the head of the family and his wife working in Goa may be each drawing twenty thousand. The head will definetely think, what will I do if I have to change the; roof of the house or the door of the house or repair this house I will have to spend lakhs of rupees. The wife has not opened the windows for months together as the windows are too high and needs a ladder. Everyone finds the house dirty as they cannot sweep this big house. The wife saysLets sell this house and use the money. So the time when the other family members are down for holidays they decide to sell the house. Why should they sell the house for five lakhs when they can get eighty lakhs ? Does any one work for lesser salary ? That is the reason they prefer to sell their house for non goans who would give them a nice price. albert de souza
Re: [Goanet] Reduplicative: Cathrina-Fodtrina, Moderator-Fodretor etc
Thanks Professor JoeGoaUk, that was informative. How do i say this word 'Borod'..Borod-borod wouldn't be right i guess! May be borod-forod or borod-zorod!! The last sounds pretty exciting:-) hAVE a nICE dAY Seb Some irregulars or exceptions to the rule: (1) If the name/word starts in B then the whole word kept/repeated as it is.. e.g. Camil: (10 years ago) tumchea ghora fattleam kitlinxinch bokim (cranes) distalim.. (Or Kitlexinch zaddam distalim) Andre: Antam bokim-bokim kaich nam fogot distat tim ‘buildingam’ (or Antam zaddam-baddam kaich dissonant…) meaning: Camil: We could see many birds (cranes) behind your house or we could see many trees Andre: we don't see cranes etc (Birds) (or trees etc) now but just the buildings (Concrete juncgle). (2) When the first letter of the word/name starts with a vowel (i.e. A, E, I , O , U) then add B before the word ( the new/second word will now have one letter more than the original/first one). e.g. Aros-Baros, Estel-Bestel, Indur-Bindur, ontt-bontt, udhok-Budhok (Pulav, Estel name of a person, Rat, Lips, Water) *Similarly, (the above) Anxel-Banxel (bear), Unttam-Bunttam (Camels) etc That’s enough now for today. More soon from your friendly Professor JoeGoaUk. ===
[Goanet] Goanet] Reduplicative: Cathrina-Fodrina, Moderator-Fodretor etc
[Goanet] Reduplicative: Cathrina-Fodrina, Moderator-Fodretor etc Thanks Seb, Although borod-forod or borod- zorod give rhythmic sound, they are both are different words with different meaning. e.g. borod (small crawling creatures usually found in Rice/grains, as little as hair/head-lice) Forod is like dandruff or scales on some peoples leg (above the ankle ). In such cases, people usually say that he/she was not give enough oil massage during the first few weeks of birth. Zorod(d) usually refer to an antigo or aged (person). e.g Ritin: Society-intlea tandvank/Ghonvank BOROD(d) podla … Paskin: Ago Ritin, tuzo cheddo ‘london-ant’ asa mugo.. posreavoile tandull ghe tantun borod-borod kainch asona. Ago. Olga, tujea paiyank FOROD(d) podlam mugo. Main ou xemain tuka lhan astana borem rogllop korunk nam xem dista Mhozo cheddo vaddon vhoddlo ZOROD(d) zala pun azunui kamak lagonk nam. Where as Reduplicated word has no meaning but just the rhyme. e.g. Agxi-bakxi, fator-bator, roste-boste etc Note: The following have rhythmic sounds but are not Reduplicative Alot-dolot Apttun-Dopttun Inga-tinga Kaddio-Boddio Inyam-tinyam Words starting with Ch change ch to B Chitt – bitt (letter) Chondrim-bondrim (moon) Chador-bador (Bed-sheet) Note: Chakri-Bakri has rhythmic sound and different meaning yet is reduplicate word. Thanks and do come back should any one of you have any more queries. Your friendly professor JoeGoaUk Quote: Thanks Professor JoeGoaUk, that was informative. How do i say this word 'Borod'..Borod-borod wouldn't be right i guess! May be borod-forod or borod-zorod!! The last sounds pretty exciting:-) hAVE a nICE dAY Seb [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
[Goanet] Airport Bomb Scare (By Remo Fernandes, The Navhind Times)
Airport Bomb Scare By Remo Fernandes Lately, whenever I have travelled out of Goa on a short overnight trip, I have driven to the airport myself, parked my car at the convenient pay-park just outside the airport gate, and walked to the departure area, my trolley suitcase in tow. But on July 28, I was going to shoot a music video, and I was carrying a heavy suitcase filled with costumes and instruments. Since I had already tele-checked in the day before, I decided to drive up to the departure gate, quickly drop my heavy luggage at the counter, park my car at the parking lot, and return leisurely on foot. I temporarily parked my car in front of the departure gate (10 minutes parking is officially allowed at this spot, the 'No Parking' sign notwithstanding), walked to the departure gate, and the cop on duty asked me for a photo ID. Now I normally produce photo IDs when asked. But what is it that made me react badly to this simple routine request on that particular morning? Was it my ego that was hurt because the cop didn't know who I was? Was it the fact that I hadn't slept enough the previous night? Was it the sights I had seen on the way to the airport, of migrants defecating on the highway edge on that pure Goan monsoon morning? Or the massive constructions I had seen along the way, destroying yet more rice fields and hills, built by migrant builders, using migrant labour, for migrant buyers? Or was it the accumulated angst against Goan ministers selling off Goa to the highest bidder, serving everyone else's interests except Goa's and Goans'? It must have been a combination of all of the above. We Goans are going through extremely sad and stressful times at the moment. The grief of seeing our beloved land die right before our eyes, watching it being swept away from under our feet, every single day, one day at a time, does take its toll on one's mind, heart and soul. I'm not trying to justify myself. I know I was wrong in reacting the way I did. But the fact is, on that particular morning, the Demon of Anger took over me. 'Hanv konn to nokoi? Tum Konkani uloitai?' I asked the cop on duty. I don't speak Konkani, he said in Hindi. Why not, if you're posted in Goa? Aren't you here to serve Goa and Goans? By now a Jet Airways staffer noticed the altercation, and quickly came and escorted me inside. He then whisked me through the X-ray and check-in formalities, which took about 5 minutes at the most -- there was absolutely no one at the airport at 7.30 a.m., and Jet Airways had already printed my boarding pass and kept it ready. I walked out less than 6 minutes after I had walked in -- to find a clamp around the front wheel of my car. I learnt this had been ordered by a person from the Airport Authorities of India [AAI], who sat in a glass cabin right next to where I had had my little exchange with the policeman. I saw it as a straight case of revenge for the argument of a few minutes before -- and whatever little patience I had left gave way. I walked to the glass cabin peephole, saw a Sardar called Mr Bhattu and his Keralite assistant inside, and demanded to know why my car wheel had been clamped. The Sardar claimed it had been parked there for longer than the officially allowed 10 minutes. I said, No way, it was not over six minutes. And how is a lone traveller who drives himself to the airport supposed to check in with heavy luggage, if he does not park the car for a few minutes outside the terminal? But the Sardar refused to listen, and my Goan blood boiled over again. :You're coming to my state and trying to harass me? I asked. There is no 'this state and that state'! There is only one India! he stormed. Yes, there is only one India, but when we are posted in other states, we must show respect and courtesy to the locals, not boss over them! I stormed back. Are you going to remove that clamp or not? His assistant said that for this I would have to pay a parking fine. I said, No way am I going to bow down to your harassment, because this is nothing but revenge and harassment! It is an illegal fine, because I was not inside the airport for longer than six minutes! Do what you like, I'm taking my car keys and going to Mumbai. Source: http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008081041
[Goanet] Meet Hortencio Pereira and Natto
Meet Hortencio Pereira and Natto http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=wyIQYEyJAvw Netto ( a pic) http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2656373781/ __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
[Goanet] Fish curry rice at Murdeshwar
I though I would shae this info to you.. What we ate and how much we paid? We were 9 4 Fresh Bangda Fry (Rs.100) 5 7up soft drinks (45) 15 Fish curry Rice thalis (300) includes 4 boiled rice plates 2 extra Rice (8) 9 plates fresh 'pellio' fish fry (90) 2 Green salad (40) 2 Kingfisher beer bots (140) Total : 718 Murdeshwar: Total distance covered 516kms includes a visit to Bhatkal (mini dubai) which is about 16kms from Murdeshwar. It took about 5hrs to reach Murdeshwar by a pvt Qualis charges: Rs.8/km Seating capacity 1+9 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2008-August/078611.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
[Goanet] CONDOLENCES
CONDOLENCES The President, Managing Committee and Members of KUWAIT-GOA TIATRISTANCHI SONSTHA (KGTS) - KUWAIT, deeply mourn the sad demise of JOAQUIM MARIANO FRANCO, beloved Father-in-law of our Managing Committee Member (Mario de Majorda), expired on 9th August 2008. Our deepest heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family. May his soul rest in peace.
[Goanet] Interesting pics...
Interesting pics... Goa and elsewhere: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cajie/ -- FN * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org Software for Kids Blog: http://softwareforkids.wordpress.com
Re: [Goanet] Airport Bomb Scare (By Remo Fernandes, The Navhind Times)
To Goanet - Remo writes: Now I normally produce photo IDs when asked. But what is it that made me react badly to this simple routine request on that particular morning? Was it my ego that was hurt because the cop didn't know who I was? Was it the fact that I hadn't slept enough the previous night? Was it the sights I had seen on the way to the airport, of migrants defecating on the highway edge on that pure Goan monsoon morning? Or the massive constructions I had seen along the way, destroying yet more rice fields and hills, built by migrant builders, using migrant labour, for migrant buyers? Or was it the accumulated angst against Goan ministers selling off Goa to the highest bidder, serving everyone else's interests except Goa's and Goans'? Bravo, Remo, Bravo! I, too, have felt the rage Remo writes about, watching the viral degradation of Goa at the hands of migrants, builders, land sharks, miners - all facilitated by our politicos. What do you expect from a third-rate country that is India? Goans are not going to stand for it any longer. Remo's is the voice of a groundswell of resistance developing within Goa to take back our land and our lives from these neo-colonialists. Regards, r
[Goanet] DNAIndia.com : Malaria's deadly bit e continues
This message was sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED], as a service of dnaindia.com -- Comments from sender : Good Morning Goanetters in Goa. What's the story in your neck of the woods? rubygoes -- Full Story can be found at http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1182568 Malaria's deadly bite continues Heavy showers over the last few days have pushed up the monsoon death toll to 96, with six people succumbing to malaria and fever in the last 24 hours = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = For news updates throughout the day, visit dnaindia.com http://www.dnaindia.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = © 2005-2008 Diligent Media Corporation Ltd. All rights reserved.
[Goanet] GT mis-diagnosis:GBA in shackles?
Dears, The GT Weekender today comes up with an astonishing report ...like Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code. Perhaps, the Editor was using the Saturday's Goan Observer as the Primer. It has the usual suspects Oscar, Sabina , Patricia, Miguel [incidentally, all CATHOLICS from NORTH GOA] and excludes Shridhar Kamat, Dilip Prabhudesai and others [all HINDU GSBs from SOUTH GOA]. There is a nice photo of Oscar, Patricia and Sabina sitting in Patricia and Agnelo's dining room to help create the proper image. Why are Shridhar, Dilip and others missing from the photo? They are supposed to be the GBA of the South. I am NOT a communal or casteist or North v/s South Goa kind of person. The GT obviously is in this report. The intro plug says it all: Starting out as the last great hope for Goa, the Goa Bachao Abhiyan, .. If you get images of the Opinion Poll, not to worry. Patricia's house is bang opposite Dr.Jack de Sequeira's house. If it reminds you of the Konkani Parjecho Avaz or KPA, no sweat either. The same folks that deceived the Catholic masses to agitate for Konkani and then manipulated the Official Language Bill,1987, the denies that there is anything like Konkani written in the Roman script, are at play. So what if 90 % of the agitators do not jnow the difference between Konkani, Marathi and Hindi when it is written in a script they cannot read, Devanagri. That is the ONLY script in which one can write the Official Language of Goa. So you did not want Regional Plan 2011? Now take Regional Plan 2021, amended Section 16 and 16A of the TCP Act, ODP 2011, Taluka PDAs to cover ALL villages and towns and a Mining Policy to supplemnet the SEZ Policy that is yet to be withdrawn. The GT is just a spoke in the wheel of development. May the worthies who write such reports live long enough to see their grandchildren suffer for their acts of kindness. Goa Bachao Abhiyan is no Great White Hope. It was not conceived as an elitist NGO. The people in the rallies were not gavddi cannon fodder like in the case of KPA. The error of the KPA must NEVER be repeated. So what if the KBM allegedly provide the cannon fodder for the South? It can well be poison fodder that give us bull. Mog asundi. Miguel Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/
Re: [Goanet] Fw: Lourdes Miracles
From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] As you can see from the post quoted below, contrary to earlier claims not even a bureaucratic committee meeting was called to certify these incredible miracles, let alone follow any kind of genuine scientific procedure. ***It was subsequently studied by a Committee. Dr.Santosh is conveniently forgetting that it has happened instantly: the white host made out of bread has turned into flesh and blood. It has been witnessed several times by the people who were present. If this happens while we are distributing Communion, what proof do we require? What scientific phenomenon is this? He can always coin new terms for these phenomena, but is not able to explain them away. Not being a scientist, I would explain it in terms of Jesus, who spoke of his own body and blood, his glorified body. This would be for me more than a proof... But we do not need to see all these phenomena, since our faith is rooted in the words of Our Lord. These cases abound. The supernatural claims made by an individual and her priests were accepted without any independent verification by unbiased expert observers or by any kind of actual tests to ascertain whether real flesh and blood had materialized. ***These are facts witnessed by sound people. Senses do not fail. These phenomena have been witnessed by the late Holy Father John Paul. Was it nuclear cloning? Was it hallucination? It was flesh and blood. How can flesh and blood be produced in believer's mouth after she received the sacred host? Can an unbiased expert observer deny the fact? Where is bias in this case? Where is deception in this case? I am ready to hear from Dr.Santosh any scientific explanation for the phenomenon and then verify it with the help of another scientist. Nobody bothered to investigate whether they were human flesh and blood. ***What else could be? Bird's flesh and bird, produced by a magician in that sacred moment? No samples of the flesh and blood were preserved for a subsequent thorough scientific examination to rule out the very likely possibility of pious fraud, and to establish the validity of not just the immediate extraordinary claims, but indeed the tenability of the entire belief system surrounding them. ***This is wrong. The report speaks of later investigation. How can it be pious fraud? Has Julia Kim done it in the presence of so many people? Has she put hen's meat in her mouth? Is this the scientific explanation? How is at stake the tenability of the entire belief system? On the contrary, these are signs of faith rooted in historical facts, the Last Supper, the death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. Dr.Santosh is trying to condemn religious rites with his scientific myopia. Let him be more serious in his statements, or at least recognize that it is not possible for him to give a verdict on these Christian dogmas. Dogma has arisen from the faith in the words of Jesus. The words of Jesus can be verified in several ways. Dr.Santosh is welcome to shed light on superstitions and snatch them away from our society... A real scientific procedure would demand one to find out if the tissue and blood in question matches that of anybody connected with this event, primarily Julia Kim. ***The host is turned into flesh and blood as soon as she receives the sacred bread into her mouth. How can it be of Julia Kim? Magic? Common sense would exclude this scientific hypothesis of Dr.Santosh. This has been repeating itself several times in the presence of so many people. The Bishop is a witness. Julia Kim is not a magician, but a simple believer. She believes in the dogma of transsubstantiation. Here is a sign. Scientists would want to know if both X and Y chromosomes were present in the cells from the flesh and in the white blood cells, because of the claim of virgin birth. ***Why to involve the scientists in another controversy? There are grounds to accept virginal conception (not virginal birth) of Jesus in the historical tradition of the Gospels. I shall not delve into this more complex question whether there are X and Y chromosomes? They would ask that nuclear and mitochondrial DNA be sequenced, so Korean ancestry could be ruled in or out, and the correct geneology be determined. ***Whose genealogy? Korean ancestry? Why? Is this flesh coming from her stomach? The level of gullibility displayed in the quoted post indicates that the people involved in propagating such miracles do not want their claims to be subjected to real scientific tests, and face the prospect of disillusionment. **The best solution would be to take Dr.Santosh for the scientific discovery. To speak of gullibility in this case is another un-scientific statement. We do not need to propagate these miracles, they have happened several times in history of Christianity and have been investigated by scientists, except by Dr.Santosh... Thanks for suggesting scientific tests for
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
I was taught that wisdom lies in not saying or making claims about what one does not know. For example, contrary to what the post quoted below says, physicists and cosmologists know that there indeed is chaos in the universe. But more importantly, modern science teaches us that it is foolish to draw premature conclusions from lack of knowledge about something at any given time. Science certainly does not think it is very wise to resort to supernatural or miraculous explanations for the natural universe. Instead, it demands that we continue our honest and dispassionate quest for natural explanations. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sun, 8/10/08, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a saying :A wise man knows what he says, a fool says what he knows. We as medical doctors mostly say what we know from books, literature, journals, and broadcasted news. But do we know what we say? We say if you smoke, it causes cancer, but do we know why Curchill, FidelCastro, and many others never got cancer? We say coconut oil is bad for the heart; did all from the Konkan and Malabar coast die of heart disease for all these centuries? Do scientists know why there is no Chaos in the movement of the Universe.? It is also said : A fool may easily find more faults than a wise man can easily mend.
Re: [Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a saying :A wise man knows what he says, a fool says what he knows. We as medical doctors mostly say what we know from books, literature, journals, and broadcasted news. But do we know what we say? We say if you smoke, it causes cancer, but do we know why Curchill, FidelCastro, and many others never got cancer? We say coconut oil is bad for the heart; did all from the Konkan and Malabar coast die of heart disease for all these centuries? Do scientists know why there is no Chaos in the movement of the Universe.? It is also said : A fool may easily find more faults than a wise man can easily mend. ***I do agree with you, Dr.Ferdinando, that there is a lot of uncertainty in the scientific-medical field. People who never smoke nor drank alcohol die of cancer. Of course, due to other factors. But what a complexity of factors! Since Medicine is one of my areas of interest, I am giving the news about one physician who has investigated the Eucharistic miracle. You will not have any difficulty to accept it. Dr.Santosh Helekar, to whom I am offering these postings, should strike a better balance between what he knows and much that he does not know... Regards. Fr.Ivo Physician Tells of Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano Edoardo Linoli Verified Authenticity of the Phenomenon ROME, MAY 5, 2005 (Zenit.org).- Dr. Edoardo Linoli says he held real cardiac tissue in his hands, when some years ago he analyzed the relics of the Eucharistic miracle of Lanciano, Italy. The phenomenon dates back to the eighth century. A Basilian monk, who had doubts about the real presence of Christ in the sacred species, was offering Mass, in a church dedicated to St. Legontian in the town of Lanciano. When he pronounced the words of the consecration, the host was miraculously changed into physical flesh and the wine into physical blood. Later the blood coagulated and the flesh remained the same. These relics were kept in the cathedral. Linoli, a professor of anatomy and pathological histology, and of chemistry and clinical microscopy, and former head of the Laboratory of Pathological Anatomy at the Hospital of Arezzo, is the only doctor who has analyzed the relics of the miracle of Lanciano. His findings have stirred interest in the scientific world. At the initiative of Archbishop Pacifico Perantoni of Lanciano, and of the provincial minister of the Franciscan Conventuals of Abruzzo, and with authorization from Rome, in November 1970 the Franciscans of Lanciano decided to have the relics examined scientifically. Linoli was entrusted with the study. He was assisted by Dr. Ruggero Bertelli, retired professor of human anatomy at the University of Siena. Linoli extracted parts of the relics with great care and then analyzed the remains of miraculous flesh and blood. He presented his findings on March 4, 1971. His study confirmed that the flesh and blood were of human origin. The flesh was unequivocally cardiac tissue, and the blood was of type AB. Consulted by ZENIT, Linoli explained that as regards the flesh, I had in my hand the endocardium. Therefore, there is no doubt at all that it is cardiac tissue. In regard to the blood, the scientist emphasized that the blood group is the same as that of the man of the holy Shroud of Turin, and it is particular because it has the characteristics of a man who was born and lived in the Middle East regions. The AB blood group of the inhabitants of the area in fact has a percentage that extends from 0.5% to 1%, while in Palestine and the regions of the Middle East it is 14-15%, Linoli said. Linoli's analysis revealed no traces of preservatives in the elements, meaning that the blood could not have been extracted from a corpse, because it would have been rapidly altered. Linoli's report was published in Quaderni Sclavo di Diagnostica Clinica e di Laboratori in 1971. In 1973, the Higher Council of the World Health Organization (WHO) appointed a scientific commission to verify the Italian doctor's conclusions. The work was carried out over 15 months with a total of 500 examinations. The conclusions of all the researches confirmed what had been stated and published in Italy. The extract of the scientific research of WHO's medical commission was published in New York and Geneva in 1976, confirming science's inability to explain the phenomenon. Today, Linoli participated in a congress on Eucharistic miracles organized by the Science and Faith master's program of Rome's Regina Apostolorum Pontifical University, in cooperation with the St. Clement I Pope and Martyr Institute, on the occasion of the Year of the Eucharist under way. Eucharistic miracles are extraordinary phenomena of a different type, Legionary Father Rafael Pascual, director of the congress, told Vatican Radio. For example, there is the transformation of the species of bread and wine into flesh and
[Goanet] Lourdes Miracles
Hi, Byron the English poet once asked. I can see crutches, and wheelchairs, on display hanging all around, but I do not see any artificial limbs. Why is that? ED. -- Fr.Ivo wrote: Miracles are assessed by scientific procedures as being extraordinary events, beyond the reach of the physical laws. I am giving more information about Lourdes Miracles. Regards. Fr.Ivo __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
[Goanet] Goa news for August 11, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Union Food Processing Industries ministry offers 60 cr to Goa - Business Standard [13 hours ago] Union Food Processing Industries ministry has offered Goa financial assistance to the tune of Rs 60 crore for various projects including a mega food park, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?tp=onautono=44423cid=1235499337ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNFsCnk8P1PYM8QABrYx116FFtknfw *** Goa to get speed governors for public transport vehicles - Times of India [Aug 8, 2008] PANAJI: The Goa government will soon implement a decision taken at the state transport ministers conference in Delhi to install speed governors for public ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_to_get_speed_governors_for_public_transport_vehicles/articleshow/3344391.cmscid=1235083193ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNHJCw6HlyHcOZa_LomjSgE-o4Vrmg *** Landslide breaks Goa-Karnataka link - Hindu [11 hours ago] Collem (Goa) (PTI): Heavy rains snapped Goa's southern link with neighbouring Karnataka following a major landslide along Anmod Ghat, a road running across ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200808101763.htmcid=1235531815ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNF-LP6gXqN1oImj5KiPayrP_Qvj4A *** Court to hear petition against Scarlett\'s mother tomorrow - Hindu [12 hours ago] Panaji (PTI): The Goa Children's Court will on Monday hear the petition filed against Fiona Mackeown, mother of British teenager Scarlett, by a Goa-based ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200808101653.htmcid=1235515045ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNFsMzn2xVrfLjVno_kuX02q2qq_tw *** INDIA Church Cautious About Laws To Protect Old Goa, Ancient ... - Union of Catholic Asian News [Aug 9, 2008] OLD GOA, India (UCAN) -- Church people in Goa have taken a cautious stand on a government proposal to protect Old Goa, the onetime Portuguese colonial base ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ucanews.com/2008/08/08/church-cautious-about-laws-to-protect-old-goa-ancient-mission-center/cid=0ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNHwLwWRgB5_gaM5jAVFTZ_zesPWOA *** BJP to seek special status for Goa - NDTV.com [Aug 8, 2008] PTI Opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) will move a resolution in the ensuing session of the Goa Assembly seeking special status for the tourist state. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080060718cid=1235104543ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNGEFOOqns6KL9JeEeXtZ-rda5EAIg *** Goa society seeks support to take over int\'l film fest - Times of India [Aug 9, 2008] MUMBAI: The Entertainment Society of Goa (ESG) has asked the film industry to support them in their plan to take over the International Film Festival of ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Goa_society_seeks_support_to_take_over_intl_film_fest_/articleshow/3344511.cmscid=0ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNHqYmQpNLtMR37f0ev4nNvr4gTZPQ *** Foodies day out in Goa - Times of India [Aug 9, 2008] Foodies in Goa have another reason to cheer for. At the Goa Marriott Resort, Independence week is being celebrated with diverse tastes of Indian cuisine. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Foodies_day_out_in_Goa/articleshow/3346252.cmscid=0ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNFOuP5At0TVLqfO9o34ifHDmQYo3g *** Sunday, Goa style - Times of India [Aug 9, 2008] The monthly bizzare buzzaar at this Goan hotspot is really the most exciting way to spend ones Sunday. The August edition, which was marred by the ban on ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bangalore/Sunday_Goa_style/articleshow/3345571.cmscid=0ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNHpSNQSzJT8moqL4AYdQgyQ0MSB4A *** Centre plans terror shield on Goa coast - Times of India [20 hours ago] The order placed with the Goa Shipyard Limited involves the manufacture of six big craft and three medium-sized ones. The medium-sized boats will be made ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Centre_plans_terror_shield_on_Goa_coast/articleshow/3347507.cmscid=0ei=-nmfSKDkCpTAlgSXuJzRCwusg=AFQjCNHpC-oiLWWwdCZIbAf4jilIq_b6sQ Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Media slut fires blank shots at the Church
To Goanet - The Margao builder lobby, their moles within GBA, and their hired media sluts are at a desperate pass. The recent stunt of the GBA convener's resignation has not had the desired effect of evoking any sympathy wave for the convener and his claque. The idea - now proving itself to be a thunderous flop - was to draw attention away from the RP2021 scam about to be unloaded on the Goan people. In the latest version of his toilet-wipe, Rajan Narayan of Kerala, who has for years tried - and miserably failed - to masquerade as a champion of Goan Catholics, has called upon the Bishop to fire Fr. Maverick of CSJP. Why would Rajan Narayan's free-booze-suppliers want Fr. Maverick out of their way? Let me explain. Fr. Maverick has mobilized people in the villages to launch their own independent movements against rampant construction, as witness the resistance in the Salcette hamlets. This has had a twofold effect: (a) it has caused a great deal of financial hurt to the builders, and (b) it has effectively shunted the GBA and reduced them to idle spectators. Now, GBA not being in control is disastrous for the Margao builder lobby and its moles. Furthermore, Fr. Maverick seems to have refused to play ball with the Margao builder lobby's chelas. Hence this drastic appeal to the Bishop to install a pliant replacement. Regards, r
[Goanet] Goans are angry!
Remo's anger is definitely reflective of the growing emotional turmoil within many of us goans. Peaceful Society's work in the remotest of villages in 7 States of India has given me the opportunity to have a first hand experience of cultures and so called unwritten codes within societies. I have had the opportunity of listening to non-goans exhorting me to tell fellow goans not to be fools in allowing Goa to be turned into another filthy Indian metro by allowing indiscriminate migration and construction. Many states in neighbouring Maharashtra, Kerala, Tamilnadu, West Bengal, besides the scheduled areas, have an unwritten code of not selling land to outsiders. When one goes in their markets one will have to interact as far as possible in the local language and they will not be courteous to you if you do not communicate in their language. But Goa's markets are full of migrants who do not know the local language and goans go out of their way to communicate in the migrants language. Here we have our local vendors are being pushed out of the markets with the help of local panchas and councillors. The migrant talks in a fashion that he can buy out any one in this State, from the local Sarpanch, councillor, bureaucrat to the MP. Some non-goan bureaucrats have contempt for goans. Everyone has a right in this country, except goans. We goans are happy squabbling among ourselves and sponsoring non-goans to feed us bull shit in some newspapers and run systematic campaigns against goan initiatives. -Soter D'Souza Socorro
[Goanet] Fwd: Letter to the Editor (Benaulim Panchayat)
-- Forwarded message -- From: Arwin Mesquita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/8/11 Subject: Letter to the Editor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Benaulim Panchayat The Sarpanch respective Panchayat Members of Benaulm should be stop playing Games and stop all Mega-Projects; as per the wishes of the People.They and the Local MLA should realise by now that Genuine Goans, will not longer allow the destruction of Goa.The Builders should back off immediately; no longer will your political god fathers be able to support your greed, at the expense of our home. I suggest that the Sarpanch meet with the Benaulim Villagers Action Committee and convince them that the mega-projects are being stopped with hard facts; else the Benaulim Panchayat should be dissolved, as demanded by the people. We need to see immediate action!! Arwin Mesquita, Colva. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/
[Goanet] Mr. Bhattu
This guy called Remo is paid with the same coin. The other day on Contacto he was criticising Goans for being arrogant etc. Now he gets it straight from the bharatis. Ush, ush Remo. BC I walked to the glass cabin peephole, saw a Sardar called Mr Bhattu and his Keralite assistant inside, and demanded to know why my car wheel had been clamped. The Sardar claimed it had been parked there for longer than the officially allowed 10 minutes. I said, No way, it was not over six minutes. And how is a lone traveller who drives himself to the airport supposed to check in with heavy luggage, if he does not park the car for a few minutes outside the terminal? But the Sardar refused to listen, and my Goan blood boiled over again. :You're coming to my state and trying to harass me? I asked. There is no 'this state and that state'! There is only one India! he stormed. Yes, there is only one India, but when we are posted in other states, we must show respect and courtesy to the locals, not boss over them! I stormed back. Are you going to remove that clamp or not? His assistant said that for this I would have to pay a parking fine. I said, No way am I going to bow down to your harassment, because this is nothing but revenge and harassment! It is an illegal fine, because I was not inside the airport for longer than six minutes! Do what you like, I'm taking my car keys and going to Mumbai. Source: http://www.navhindtimes.com/story.php?story=2008081041 __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html
[Goanet] Triangulation for the truth
Two reports on the much touted Tourism Meet of Aug 8 are worrisome to put it mildly. One compounds the confusion in the other. These reports appeared in HERALD and TOI of Aug 9. HERALD says Gov[ernor] links top notch airports to tourism. For good measure he is said to have added if Bangalore and Hyderabad and Cochin can have airports on the PPP model so can Goa for its future growth. The worthy gentleman seems to be either unaware of or is covering up the serious problems of connectivity (both surface and air) especially Bangalore is facing on account of the PPP project of BIAL which goanetters should be aware of by now. In fact these airports along with the Delhi and Bombay PPP projects may be instrumental in jacking up costs of civil aviation across the board in the country soon with UDF on passengers and higher space rentals/charges for other airport users. Even AAI airports are now wanting to follow the lead in greed. At this rate Dabolim will not be far behind once Mopa is up and running. Higher costs is one thing, no service at all is an altogether different and unacceptable matter. This is tied to the other half baked idea proposed by Gov Sidhu. Dabolim airport which is slated for expansion can cater to domestic travel while the new airport could cater to charter and international flights. The problem is that the latter are very few in number on an average daily basis. How can a mega project envisaging A380 superjumbos be meaningful in this context? The only result will be that idomestic traffic will be sucked away from Dabolim and the latter will have to close. What the Governor is talking about is only echoing the earlier idea of the Chief Minister who, for public consumption, has been saying Mopa yes, but not at the cost of Dabolim. Unless the Mopa plan is downsized to a world class REGIONAL airport (catering to Tier II town traffic from surrounding areas, connecting to secondary airports (if any) of Bombay and Bangalore, and growing gradually and systematically), a full fledged international airport right off the bat at Mopa will be a disaster for Dabolim and for Goa. Dr Sidhu is also supposed to have given a plug for air cargo without specifying its location. Here is a line of business that Mopa can conceivably depend on since there are serious constraints at Dabolim for it. It would have to be specialised cargo aviation and not in the belly space of passenger airlines (which would be predominant at Dabolim). Careful and thoughtful analysis of Goa's cargo business is required, not off the cuff plans. The rest of the report is about tourism which may be the real forte of the new governor. For this we turn to the TOI story titled Two airports can co-exist in state: Promotion of eco, intellectual tourism also stressed upon. Besides the two mentioned (btw, what is intellectual 'tourism') there are also references to leisure tourism, adventure tourism, hinterland tourism, spice tourism, health tourism etc etc. Goa tourism may be in a crisis mode currently and the need of the hour is to converge on the most beneficial ones rather than grope around for a magic bullet, spreading resources thin in the process. The upshot is that the confusion in aviation is compounded and confounded by that in tourism. In the case of the former it is high time the powers that be spelled out how the two airports 'would' co-exist instead of being stuck in the rut of 'can co-exist'. This requires a sensible discussion of how the Mopa airport project (its business model, design, finance, build-up etc) would be managed along with its subsequent operation as well as regulation to co-exist in a mutually beneficial way with Dabolim civil enclave (including the latter's upgradation and expansion) for, say, twenty (20) years into the future? But its easier to feed the Goan public with catchy slogans rather than substantive plans. DrSidhu's idea, expressed earlier, that tourism in Goa should be based on a balance of interests between environment and economy and that Goa needs to identify its own brand image and develop it, is no doubt indisputable in principle. But it needs to be translated urgently into action beginning with the plan(s) for Mopa and Dabolim taken together rather than in isolation. About the Dabolim airport, he said earlier (again in HERALD) that though it is a defence airport, it needs to be continued with even after the PPP one is commissioned. Hopefully he means as a user-friendly facility for the aam admi and not just for occasional VVIPs as at HAL and Begumpet nowadays. The worry on this score has only been accentuated rather than attentuated with his newest comments. I do hope I am wrong about this-- for Goa's sake.
