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[Goanet] Daily Grook #501
DAILY GROOK #501 __ LOVER UNCOVER __ by Francis Rodrigues a volcano is like casanova, fast chasing red-hot lava! http://www.KonkaniSongBook.com Panjim: Pedro Fernandes: Tel.2226642 Furtados, opp. Monginis. Tel.2223278 The Konkani SongBook on Facebook! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=119017685910 Join the group - free sheet-music, lyrics, updates! _ Click less, chat more: Messenger on MSN.ca http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9677404
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (2Sep09)
NEWS: Milk prices raised Diggu Kaka Mummy said 'No Milk from Today'...So instead of the Bad Mid-Day meal can we have some Good Morning Milk To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
Re: [Goanet] Best Male Singer ‘Lawry Travasso ’
Mojim Porbim Lawry Bab, khorench tho ek boro kantorist. Punn Lapitt maka sangxi Lawry babak konnem NEW MELODY KING..hem title dilem. Ho zaun assa ek vhodd okman amchea somplelea Melody King Alfred Rose ak. Anv Sozmotam focot ekuch Melody King assa ani tho zaun assa Alfred Rose...taka sor kortolo dusro konn melody king na.. There is only one MELODY KING OF THE KONKANI STAGE...and that is ALFRED ROSE...there can be no NEW...meldoy King. Dev Borem Korum Eddie Verdes ( A great fan of Alfred Rose ) Best Male Singer ‘Lawry Travasso’ The new Melody King mhonn prosidhi zoddlolea tiatristan, tiatristanchea chepeak anink ek pakh zoddlolem asa. Mungllurchea Kalangan-an zalolea Poilea Global Konkani Music Awards karyavollint hea Gõykar putan Best Male Singer ho puroskar jikhun, Gõychem, Gõychea tiatranchem ani somest Gõykaranchem hod’dem gorvan fuloilem.
[Goanet] Hazardous Walking
John, You forgot to mention the phlegm and spittle all over the place. Brgds, Blasio ate: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:23:49 -0700 From: johnericgo...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Hazardous Walking The simple and healthy joy of walking has also become hazardous in Goa. Besides the air pollution, there is mortal fear of being hit by a vehicle.One has to watch out for potholes, stray cattle/dogs and cowdung/poop.Where there are footpaths, they are littered with garbage,overgrown weed , slippery moss or they are illegally occupied.Branches stick out from trees planted near compound walls, vehicles illegally parked, gates open onto footpaths and bird droppings from proliferating crows is another hazard.In the monsoons it gets worse, and the splashing of dirty water by whizzing vehicles add to the misery. Paradise for whom?Where is any discipline, simple planning or governance?
[Goanet] Which C-Beach? - the answer (Clip)
Which C- Beach? - the Answer (Clip) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DX1p2BpAzg joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] article
Don't fool them Seafarer's dares the huge waves,they face rolling,pitching,they stay away from their loved ones especially when their presence is badly needed.They do all this to give a better life to their families.Nobody should play with their sentiments,they have lived a honest and sincere life at Sea and continue with the same after their retirement at ashore.They normally don't curse any one so please don't ask for their curses.Once in 6 months they get a sum of rupees 1200 from NUSI and now they are fighting to get it increased to a reasonable amount.I still remember once seafarer's all over India contributed Rs 2 crores plus as a gift to their then leader Leo Barnes. About a year ago a meeting was held in presence of ex-seafarer Churchill Alemao and NUSI leaders regarding the same issue but till date nothing worked out.Now seafarer's are having Village level meetings in presence of former Asst secretary of NUSI, Urselino Almeida and Ivor D'souza.Urselino Almeida in his address at Cuncolim said,NUSI's funds are just lying down and the same can be used towards pension for seafarer's,he never passed such a statement when he was in power.No comments on the address of Ivor D'souza as he like a politician praised his own self.Urselino Almeida,also the former Administrator of NUSI Academy at Assolna could have done a lot to seafarer's but did he used his position of power then? Why they don't call the present secretary of NUSI,Mr. Gheni at the NUSI Academy and all seafarer's of Goa gather and sort out the issue as funds are not the problem according to the former leader of NUSI,Urselino Almeida. It may be recalled that some Seafarer's money were also used to set NUSI hospital at Cuncolim and NUSI Academy at Assolna/Chichinim.Don't NUSI get any funds from the same which can be used towards pension for seafarer's?One don't get a Cigarette cartoon for Rs 200 and the same is payed for seafarer's and that too once in 6 months.Hope something will work out for them and hope their present leaders don't play with their sentiments once again? God as you look after ourselves when we are sea,sailors have got full faith in you that you would not leave us at ashore also. Joel Morais P.O.Cuncolim, Bencleamvaddo, Salcette,Goa. Pin-403703 mob-9970561727
Re: [Goanet] Automatic job with Portuguese passport
3: Quero um fusco? - Não. Mas talvez uma Fusca J. In Brazil, the (VW) Beetle is called Fusca. – see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle, scroll down to Names for the Type 1 … __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance
As far as i know Babri was a Mosque, not a temple. Now i presume there is temple in its place and as per Caj, they want to demolish that too!! Am i right?? I also think Santosh has rightfully answered Caj, unless he was not sure if he wanted an answer to his questions or not! cause he further tells him no to write here, as its not going to help. Is so then why ask?? hAVE a nICE dAY Seb --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Cajetan Alvares cajul...@googlemail.com wrote: Who demolished the statue of Buddha, in Afghanistan? Who wants to demolish the Babri temple? Who else? Violent criminals and fanatics. Cheers, Santosh - Hi, So, you do admit that Advani amd the rest of the BJP gang are violent criminals and fanatics? Why not write to them instead of on Goanet? Writing to us here is not going to help. Caj.
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance
A bigot is a person who is obstinately and irrationally, often intolerantly, devoted to his or her own religion, political party, organization, belief, or opinion, especially one who regards or treats those of differing devotion with hatred and intolerance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry The Science-can-do-no-wrong, if-it-does-wrong-it-is-not-Science, the-rest-of-the-world-has-to-be-corrected-to-my-way-of-thinking we've seen (even on Goanet) makes me feel that Science might sometimes have the same arrogance that we accuse (probably not wrongly) the world of religion or communalism or politics or nationalism. As for 'secularism', there are many interpretations of what this term means. In the Indian context, the militant attempt at debunking religious views, seems to have pushed believers only deeper into the arms of the fundamentalists. This is only my opinion. Please don't Galelio-ise me for it! Besides, I obviously don't have the proof necessary to subject these views through the tests necessary for making this work as Scientific Evidence. But since you asked my views nonetheless, and a quote from the W'pedia! FN 2009/9/2 Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com: --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: I believe every religious and non-religious ideology (including secularism and Science!) has its own phases of bigotry and intolerance. What are the phases of bigotry and intolerance of secularism and science? Please describe them in at least a couple of paragraphs. -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
Re: [Goanet] City blights - dnaindia.com
Yep - spent last weekend in Sydney - one of the newer surprising thing I saw there (I visited Sydney after some 5 years) - a pedal-cab. Yep, a cycle-rickshaw with a difference - this one was a recumbent type, fully covered with a streamlined green fibreglass (?) material, with the obligatory headlights and taillights (bright LEDs). Back of the vehicle read 0-30 in 12 peddles - ah well perhaps he couldn't spell properly! And he had a couple of passengers at the back. Pity I didn't have a camera handy. Ruby, is this a one-off or are these rather common in the Sydney CBD? Cheers, Gabriel. - Original Message From: Ruby Goes rubyg...@bigpond.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, 31 August, 2009 11:40:22 AM Subject: [Goanet] City blights - dnaindia.com (Spring is bustin' out all over Sydney) __ Find local businesses and services in your area with Yahoo!7 Local. Get started: http://local.yahoo.com.au
[Goanet] Talking Photo: Please identify the two Tiatirsts
Talking Photo: Please identify the two Tiatirsts http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk-tiatr2/3880138145/ Some Clues: tag False beard Not husband and wife May be bro.in-law sis. in law joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Lion Roars
*Faleiro’s ‘One small step for Goa, one giant leap for Goans’* Jai Ho Taiwan! Eduardo Faleiro, Commissioner for NRI Affairs, could be off to Taiwan in October on the off chance, he said so himself, he might bump into some Goans there. Good luck to him. To the best of my knowledge there are two Goans in Tokyo, one of them I know, and is married to a Japanese lady. There’s opportunity there, Boss. Ditto for the Cayman Islands, where I have just discovered there are a bunch of Goans. And as for Goans in Kenya, there are just 2,000 of them according to my sources there. Since they are all Kenyan citizens, I really don’t see how the Indian embassy in Nairobi could be of use to them except to create further obstacles, if for some vague reason it were asked to help. When I travelled to Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania in 2001, I was informed there that are only four Goan families left in Kisumu, a town on the shores of Lake Victoria on the Kenyan side. In Unguja, the main island of Zanzibar, I could trace and meet one Goan who had a travel agency there. The rest had all migrated. Now, my sources tell me there are barely 1,000 Goans in Tanzania and 200 in Uganda. These Goans abroad do not need to be reminded about their Goan roots, simply because they will never forget. Their endless supply of Goan sausages, *masalas *and feni is testimony to their nostalgia for Goa and everything Goan. As for Goans living in Canada and the U.S. for that matter, the cost of a flight to Goa is simply daunting, and so most Goans there prefer to travel to the U.K. and Europe where they have a network of Goans. It’s simply a question of logistics and cost effectiveness. In fact if you are a regular reader of *herald2day*, you will have noticed that Goan themed restaurants or restaurants serving Goan food are only opened in the U.S. I can’t recall a Goan restaurant being opened in the U.K. I guess for all the obvious reasons. *Another time, another place* I recall writing a special report for Mumbai’s Mid-Day during Kuwait’s invasion by Iraq between August 1990 and January 1991 and to my surprise every Goan returnee I interviewed had a horror tale to tell of the sheer insensitivity of Indian embassies to all Indians wherever their help was sought. Faleiro went there too, at least he stationed himself in a neighbouring country (I can’t remember which), to help. Apparently, his presence did not help one bit. Faleiro was there as a representative of Rajiv Gandhi’s opposition Congress (VP Singh was the Prime Minister at the time) and along with the then Foreign Minister Inder Kumar Gujral even met Iraq’s President Saddam Hussain. In an interview later, Faleiro was quoted as saying, “I must say I was given special treatment in meeting President Hussein. I suppose this was because his Baath Party had fraternal relations with the Congress.” But, sadly, accounts of fleeing Goans indicated they were not given special treatment. *Wasted Effort* My point is Indian embassies are as a rule uncooperative and not accommodating. And for this, I can vouch. When I lost my passport in Bejing in August 2007, I discovered to my everlasting disappointment that the Chinese police, authorities and my travel guide were overeager to help, but not the Indian embassy, then headed by Nirupama Rao, now India’s foreign secretary. The attitude I encountered was typically *desi*, every Indian at the embassy felt (and showed it) they were doing me a huge favour in issuing me a duplicate passport. In contrast a female Chinese police officer spent more time trying to explain to me the procedures in China, the job that should have been done by someone in the embassy. Fed up, I called up every senior journalist friend I knew in Delhi. Hey presto, it finally worked, and my passport was ready, but not before the laminating machine was purposely made to malfunction because my calling up ‘friends’ made me the most hated Indian in Beijing. In fact, when I went across to say thank you, one graceless official said –“Whatever.” *Adding to taxpayer's burden* If our *montris *are not going on their version of the Starship Enterprise missions abroad to sell Goa’s tourism industry or to save Goans abroad, they are preoccupied doing up their homes. Between June 8, 2007 and now, Rs 4,85,338 was spent on various repairs to the official home of Digambar Kamat, who apart from flying economy, would have you believe that he goes home to Margao for rest and recreation. But during that time Rs 5,40,612.63 was also spent painting up his Altinho residence. I don’t know who sits on his chairs, can’t be Churchill Alemao –he’s too busy doing his own thing like kickboxing; but Rs 7,75,973 was spent on ‘urgent’ repairs to the office furniture at his official residence. Add to that the lighting in the living room that cost you Rs 12,033. Now, all that adds up to an official Rs 18,13,926.63. When the officials get going, the going gets official! *(Feedback 6658606, 9763718501
Re: [Goanet] I try to meet the needs of my people: Agnelo - Comments
We wish Agnelo Fernandes, the MLA from the Calangute Constituency and a Congresswalla, a very prosperous and a happy birthday. May we see all the pages of all the newspapers entirely covered-up with his photographs on his very shortly coming 50th. Birthday. The Goa's newspaperwallas should be watering in the mouths about the killing that they will be making for themselves. Agnelo, it seems has turned out to be the GOD of the people oc the Calangute Constituency. So far we heard only GODs talking in terms of 'my people'. Besides, unlike the needs of the God's people, the needs of Agnelo's people may not be the entirely 'legal' and therefore the need for Agnelo to consider himself as their God Almighty. Cheers to Agnelo for sporting a 'halo' so far reserved for GODs only. floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org
Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese
The subject line is sure to catch our attention. -Original Message- From: sallesfons...@. The main purpose of Fr. Theotónio is to blame Portugal and nothing else! However, he lives in Portugal and is paid by a portuguese University. RESPONSE: The first edition of this book was published in 1979 when Teotonio lived in Goa. That edition was sold out and a copy was hard to come by. I hope more Goans read about our history not just from Teotonio but also people like Joaquim Heliodoro da Cunha Rivara [1], Shirodkar and more Of course he is not a recognisable historian because of his partiality. RESPONSE: There was a vibrant debate on Goanet some weeks ago about the alleged bias of Priolkar vis-a-vis the Inquisition. I guess somebody or the other will always see bias in a historian's writing. Nevertheless, we should read all views and perspectives - pro and contra and make up our own mind. Historians usually have data to backup their assertions. But read we must for a better understanding of our history whether it is palatable or not. - B [1] Goa and the Revolt of 1787 Joaquim Heliodoro da Cunha Rivara (Edited by Charles J. Borges, 1996)
Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese
Dear Floriano From what I heard from my grandparents and on reading your note on Portuguese administration, I am convinced , clear and have a true feeling that law and order/administration then was very fair, clean , impartial and above all FAST(not like todays 20-25 years long legal battles in Goa courts-never ending dates and never say die advocates/judges mentality). Todays Goas administration from its effects on goans can be termed as 'swine flu' and there is an urgent need for the 'vaccination' in the form of Goan peoples voices as this administration is killing goans peace, freedom, rights for too long now. Actually we do not mind these donkeys to rule us and never mind if they do not carry our food, clothing, shelther things and reach them from the market place to our door steps. We will do it ourselves since these donkeys do not know what SERVICE means. However, these 40 donkeys are quite clever that they do carry our stuff, they carry our GOAN LAND, FIELDS, HILLS and take it all the way to DELHI , RUSSIA, and other places. Floriano, I have seen Ministers , their vast properties, no. of cars, and their wealth, but I will anytime prefer to be governed by sincere people like you(well people do change after getting power, but you are not an ordinary person who is waiting for power, you are already filled with power which is not for sale) OR party(name it GSRP) and I would love the ordinary bread(kakon) and the Goan tea in a coconut shell to start the day . This I still remember enjoying alongwith my Titi(Uncle) on the calangute beach after they finished offloading the fishing nets from the boats on the beach and the energetic and strong women folks taking their 'fish pandlios' to market. I am talking about 1975. Please , please bring back the portuguese administration minus the portuguese and please bring back the days of 1975 or earlier minus the ugly princess, I hate the sight of this and wonder how ugly and sick the owners mind and heart is , who disowned it after making use of it and making money. And worst still there are probably still many people who have and still keeping quite as they probably get gifts, cars, properties and does not even go to the beach for a walk , not do they care for the environment , nor do they care for the fisher folks future in terms of fishing, or for the people of calangute candolim who love the beach. Best Wishes to you and GSRP. Regards Mario Andrew Rodrigues From: floriano floriano.l...@gmail.com To: fredericknoro...@gmail.com, Goa's premiere mailing list,estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese Message-ID: 88668c3521684a29b13fc61b9a9a3...@home Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8; reply-type=original Which Goans lived in misery during the Portuguese era? Were they the elite Goans? Where they the down to earth, scratching for a living, Goans? Yes, we had Morris Minors, WW Beetles, Willys Jeeps, Austin Cambriges, St . Pauli Girl Beer, Madeira, Moscatel, Granjo so on and so forth. But who could afford it? According to me, Goa saw a diciplined administration in all respects. I salute the Portuguese for that. And I hate my own country's administration from my very guts. This is only possible because I have experienced both and I am free to choose which one I like. It does not matter that the Portuguese looted Goa. Our Delhi High Commands are doing worse with the local chamchas helping them to help themselves. I might have not had more things on my dinner plate than others, then, during the Portuguese era. But I certainly had the satisfaction of being governed fairly, cleanly and impartially. We have sent away the horses. They had to be sent away, no doubt about it. But we opened our doors wide for our own donkeys to walk in and make our lives miserable. And we cannot even blame any one for it but ourselves. That is why Goa Su-Raj is born. To bring back the Portuguese administration into Goa back again, minus the Portuguese. And perhaps, if India needs someone other than the Nehru's and Gandhi's Kangress which has made our lives miserable, then maybe Goa Su-Raj will qualify to lead India as India Su-Raj. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/
Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese
2009/9/1 Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com: [1] Oh JC, tut tut, we're not going to play the old Clintonian trick of it all depends on what the definition of is is. [2] Oh by the way, keep raking the dirt on me, keep digging, that is your usual style, when you're losing an argument isn't it? Two quick points: a: Either substantiate the charges you have made albeit by way of misrepresentations or withdraw them b: Dirt can only be dug up - IF it exists Just as a reminder: Please confirm or deny (and if confirmed ...substantiate) that you made the following statements uno: That a whole generation of Goan Hindus has been raised to HATE Goan Catholics dos: That jc wrote about Jobs in Swindon tres: That jc stated that Teotonio's book IS biased. Now don't play Clinton with me. He was playing with Monica. Apart from that, he IS my favourite US President. finis jc
[Goanet] Goans lived under the Portuguese
Yes, they did for 451 years from 1510 to 1961. Were the Portuguese in Goa for the benefit of Goans ? Yes, but for a small minority of mostly mestissos, bamons and bhatkars. Let us face it. Portugal was a colonial power just like Spain, France, Britain, Netherlands etc. .These powers occupied vast territories in Asia and Africa and exploited them for the benefit of their respective motherlands. They were not oncharity missions to improve the standards of living of colonial people. And the Portuguese were no exception. So how did the majority of Goans live under the Portuguese ? What was the difference between a Goan of 1961 vintage and his ancestor the Hindu who was converted to Christianity inthe 16th century say about 14 to 15 generations later ? Personally, the majority of 1961 Goans were a little bit but not much different from their Hindu ancestors. So much for the gracious munificence of the Portuguese and their missionaries as perceived by their few beneficiaries. Antonio
[Goanet] Obituary: Veteran tiatrist S. Parra
Obituary: Veteran tiatrist S. Parra http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk-tiatr2/3880114149/ Could some one write a few lines on Tiatrist Piedade Felicio Faria (Sabin)? I think I never seen or heard about this tiatrist. Sorry, the earlier Identity 2 tiatirists – the link should now work.. Try here http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-September/182664.html joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] Black Tea
Very interesting subject indeed. To my limited knowledge, while in India though Tea is drunk with milk added, the Arabs have it 'black', the Chinese green,and the name chai is synonumous with 'masala chai', lemon chai, ginger chai,jeera chai, 'beNsi pana chai' and so on. Why not some one write in detail about the origin, types, chemical content, health value etc etc. Many have the habit of consuming tea after lunch, is this beneficial for digestion as well? MD
[Goanet] Best Male Singer ‘Lawry Travasso ’
I too like to know who gave Lawry the Title 'Melody King' So many Kings now a day Tragedy King Mimicry king Century King Double Century king Never heard? Tiatrist JoeGoaUk despite having his own Ford Fiesta in UK, he is now driving Indian Maruti in Goa. Is he a 'Kumarimcho King' o what? btw, has anybody got William De Curtorim email ID? joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
[Goanet] HSRP scam
This is an open letter to the Transport Minister. The people of Goa will agree with you that the implementation of High Security Registration Plates (HSRP) in Goa in not a SCAM if you can answer the following questions: 1. The implementation of HSRP are a recommendation to all States by the Supreme Court and not an Order by itself, as such non-implementation does not constitute a Contempt. May we know since when is the Hon’rable Minister terrified of Contempt of Supreme Court’s recommendation when he did not Object to his government’s Ordinance to impede implementation of Supreme Court’s Orders? 2. Is the HSRP for owner’s security of his vehicle? Or for security against terrorist using stolen vehicles? Terrorist and other organised criminals pre-plan their activities; what can prevent them from stealing a car, remove the HSRP and put an outside State registration number and cross the border? Will your tracking system not lead you to the dustbin? Snap-lock bolt system can be easily drilled through. 3. The HSRP is supposed to have an inbuilt electronic chip which requires electronic equipment to track/read, how many of these equipment are there with the government? And may we know which electronic equipment has endured for more than a year in Government hands? 4. Has the government checked if the HSRP have been actually fitted with a working electronic chip? Have they tracked vehicles already installed with HSRP? What if the chip fails after 6 months and how will the owner come to know? Does the owner have to regularly check and make a new HSRP if the chip has failed? Or waste a day to fit another one if under warranty? 5. There were recent reports that the HSRP had become illegible after a first servicing of the vehicle. The HSRP are supposed to undergo a weather resistance test. Is this not conclusive of the HSRP being substandard and insecure. Or is it that the Shimmit Utsch India Pvt.Ltd. who bagged the tender are amateurs, or possibly left with only 25% after paying above and below the table? Does the security responsibility of the government cease with the fixation of the HSRP? Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. _ Log on to MSN India for a lowdown on what’s hot in the world today http://in.msn.com
Re: [Goanet] Coconut-related Konkani terms
I would like to add a few of that I have come across some of which may be corruptions or dialect modifications: sampddo - all fronds placed on one side of he leaf used to thatch roofs. Kanddi - the trunk of the tree. vanxe/vanshe - the rafters (from trunk) patti - beam (from trunk). bol'l - barrel from the base of the tree. kisram - shavings from the tree shelaunno - shelanno (sic) piddo - end of the frond paddeponn - cocnut plucking paddai, paddekar - plucker torluk - charge No time now to think of some more Richard cabral Sebastian Borges s_m_bor...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Fred, The folowing are the coconut-related terms compiled in the English - Konkani vocabulary to be published by Goa Konkani Akademi. Almost all are taken from S.R. Dalgado's Portuguese - Konknni Dictionary (1905); some terms in use outside Goa have been omitted. Singular and plural forms (when given) are separated by a dash ( - ). coconut : narl - narl tender coconut : addsor - addsoram, xiallem - xiallim, girpallem - girpallim. large coconut : xelanno - xelanne. immature / unripe coconut : bonddo - bondde. incipient (button): bonddi - bonddio. empty / sterile coconut: vanz - vanzam. coconut with water dried out : adduk addkam. coconut with water dried up while on tree : moddko - moddke, moddkel’lo narl – moddkel’le narl. coconut dry and with kernel loosened from shell : guddguddo - guddgudde. coconut seedling : biyaddok - biyaddok. kernel of coconut : katolli, (tender) korkem, (soft layer) pillpo. half of a coconut kernel : vollem - vollim. grated kernel : sôy. grated kernel mixed with jogree : churn. coconut grater : kantonem - kantonim. sun-dried kernel (copra) : khobrem. endosperm or kernel of germinated coconut : morondd, murindd. peduncle of coconut : chamfem chamfim. hard shell of coconut : kortti - kortteo, (large) kortto - kortte. entire shell without kernel : belko - belke, belo - bele. laddle made of shell (in decreasing size) : dôy - doyo, dôvlo - dovle, dovli - dovleo, poddki - poddkeo. husk of coconut : soddnn - soddnnam. coir : katho, kabllo. coir rope : razu - razu, sumb - sumbam. coconut milk : narlacho ros. coconut oil : khobrel, narlel, avel. coconut shell oil: kott’ttel. coconut liquour : fenni, maddel. coconut arrack (equivalent of cashew urrak i. e. single-distilled) : mollop. coconut plucker : paddekar, paddeli, paddavi, paddavo. coconut plucking : paddo - padde. coconut tree : madd - madd. tree producing coconuts : narl-madd. tree being tapped for toddy : surê-madd, bandlolo madd. old unproductive tree : zorddul - zorddulam. young immature tree / sapling : kovatho - kovathe. bunch of coconuts : manzôr – manzri / manzoreo, penddhi - penddheo. canopy / crown : kovoll. spathe : pôy - poyo. spadix (the stalk from which a bunch hangs): xevok - xevkam, xelkem - xelkim. frond (leaf) : chuddit - chuddttam. tendermost, unopened (apical) frond : xivddi - xivddeo, ram’ – ram’. leaf bud : kunvllo - kunvlle, kunvallo - kunvalle. stalk (petiole) of frond : pirddo - pirdde. fibre-web (ligule) of frond-stalk : pisondori - pisndoreo. leaflet of a frond : chuddtti - chuddtteo. midrib (petiole) of leaflet : hir - hir, vhir - vhir. marginal fibre of leaflet : vavlli. woven mat of frond : morl - morlam. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Low carb diet may increase heart risk: Mouse study
Lopw-carb diet may increase heart risk. More here. Con http://www.foodnavigator.com/Science-Nutrition/Low-carb-diet-may-increase-heart-risk-Mouse-study/?c=KlYnp4hkqTB%2F6xiuii1iNw%3D%3Dutm_source=newsletter_dailyutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Newsletter%2BDaily
Re: [Goanet] Flattery, stealth and intimidation
You did??? So did I...good for us...as they say in Amrika Chacha From: ashleyivordsi...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 07:14:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Goanet] Flattery, stealth and intimidation Hello Cecil, I enjoyed your article - those were the good old days. Ashley D'Silva _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photo-gallery-edit.aspx
[Goanet] GARBAGE PLANT GENERATES 'HEAT' AT ANJUNA MEET
The following appeared in yesterday's Herald: GARBAGE PLANT GENERATES 'HEAT' AT ANJUNA MEET Herald Correspondent Calangute AUG 31 The Anjuna gram sabha on Sunday witnessed heated discussions over the proposed garbage treatment plant at Gaumvaddy-Anjuna. After deliberation on the issue, Sarpanch Sandip Chimulkar promised to scrap the proposed site of the garbage plant. Satyawan Harmalkar raised the issue of poor quality developmental works and the panchayat's failure to complete the works. There were heated arguments between the gram sabha members and the panchayat members. Pradeep Harmalkar asked the sarpanch if the supervisory committee was formed to oversee the works, but Chimulkar replied in the negative. The gram sabha members then proposed for the formation of the supervisory committee, which was not acceptable to the sarpanch. Raising the issue of permission to hotels to erect sign/advertisement boards, Hanumant Lingudkar sought to know the status of it. The sarpanch replied in the negative and promised removal of it. Few gram sabha members regretted that the sarpanch did not entertain their proposals on grounds of delayed submission and complained of unfair means at the gram sabha proceedings. Earlier, Panchayat Secretary Krishnakant Govekar read the minutes of the previous meeting while Sandip Chimulkar welcomed the gram sabha members for the meeting. MY COMMENTS: The Gaumvaddy residents are determined to deny the Anjuna-Caisua Panchayat the use of our hill as a dumping ground for garbage. The chosen site is (approx) 500 meters away from Venerable Fr. Agnelo's birth place. Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna, Goa Mob: 9420979201
Re: [Goanet] Taking Photos: Which Popular C- beach is this?
What man...Joe boy... Even a primeira classe child would promptly chirp out... Uncle, that is a beach on the Malabar Coast of India...below the Ghanti hills...not, man...? Chacha Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 18:18:15 + From: joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Taking Photos: Which Popular C- beach is this? Taking Photos: Which Popular C- beach is this? Is it Cavelossiom Beach? Is it Canaguinim Beach? Is it Caranzalem Beach? Is it Cansaulim Beach? Is it Calangute Beach? Is it Campal Beach? Is it Colva Beach? Which ever it is, it does look beautiful only captured this evening 7.30pm Just have a look 7.30pm http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3878041459/sizes/l/ 6.30pm http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3878043945/sizes/l/ water flowing back to the sea but it’s not a river http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3878042131/sizes/l/ 6.30pm http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3878838382/sizes/l/ 7.30pm http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk20/3878081503/sizes/l/ Note: One of the Five pics may be a pic of another beach joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx
[Goanet] Breaking News: Andhra CM's chopper missing, security agencies in a tizzy
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[Goanet] Learn Chinese
Our Girgigirem now in London forgets that the chinese language is in force all over the world. Shuo Putonghua is the name of the game. From the yanks, to Portuguese and bharats all are now joining the real growth country called China. Hindi only in Bolliwood. BC
Re: [Goanet] Automatic job with Portuguese passport
re this rather crude and surprising offer from Selma: 'Quero um fusco?' [in English translates as: Do you want a fart?] Gabriel de Figueiredo responded: 'Não. Mas talvez uma Fusca [in English translates as: Not really ...but a VW Beetle perhaps] [The VW beetle is known as 'la Fusca' or 'a Fusca' in South America] Your request is noted, Gabriel. Selma's offer is respectfully turned down with. While natural Gas is an expensive commodity, it is better NOT to rely on imported Gas. If any among us has the problem with excessive Gas production there is an OTC remedy i.e. BEANO http://www.beanogas.com/ further educational oportunities are available at this Institute of Higher Learning (Cannot guarantee jobs in Swindon even with Portuguese passport) http://www.beanogas.com/UofGas.aspx jc
[Goanet] Talking Photo: Please identify the two Tiatirsts
sorry, the link should work now - see below Talking Photo: Please identify the two Tiatirsts http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk-tiatr2/3880138145/ Some Clues: tag False beard Not husband and wife May be bro.in-law sis. in law joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Goans lived under the Portuguese
You are absolutely right. In fact the vast majority of people were oblivious of what went on around them except the fear, fear of assault and deprivation both within and without. They led simple lives and were economically poor. Their dwellings were single roomed mud houses built like chawls. Their only anxiety was to feed themselves. They were ignorant and as you said the bamonns took maximum advantage of this and appropriated their lands and properties. In order to keep them ignorant they used all the tricks and tactics in their bag. Though some of the Portuguese Governors were interested in educating the masses and tried to reach out to them it is the Bamonns who played dirty and tried everything in their power to deny them the education facility. The common utterance of the Bamonns was 'tumkam nhoi re tem. Even now there are still some people of that same ilk though many have turned a new leaf. In reality these simple ordinary unlettered folks were oppressed more by these bamonns than by the Portuguese. It's time to put the record straight. Richard Cabral Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, they did for 451 years from 1510 to 1961. Were the Portuguese in Goa for the benefit of Goans ? Yes, but for a small minority of mostly mestissos, bamons and bhatkars. Let us face it. Portugal was a colonial power just like Spain, France, Britain, Netherlands etc. .These powers occupied vast territories in Asia and Africa and exploited them for the benefit of their respective motherlands. They were not oncharity missions to improve the standards of living of colonial people. And the Portuguese were no exception. So how did the majority of Goans live under the Portuguese ? What was the difference between a Goan of 1961 vintage and his ancestor the Hindu who was converted to Christianity inthe 16th century say about 14 to 15 generations later ? Personally, the majority of 1961 Goans were a little bit but not much different from their Hindu ancestors. So much for the gracious munificence of the Portuguese and their missionaries as perceived by their few beneficiaries. Antonio
[Goanet] Lucknow Bishop Meets New U.P. Governor
Lucknow Bishop Meets New U.P. Governor By SAR NEWS LUCKNOW, Uttar Pradesh (SAR NEWS) -- Bishop Gerald Mathias of Lucknow called on the new governor of Uttar Pradesh, B.L. Joshi, at the Raj Bhavan here, August 27. He was accompanied by the chancellor of Lucknow Diocese, Father Donald De Souza, and the principal of Cathedral Senior Secondary School Lucknow, Father Ronald D’Souza. At the meeting, the governor showed keen interest in the work of the Catholic Church in Uttar Pradesh through its educational institutions, schools for the differently abled and social development centres. Joshi also appreciated the role of religious leaders in forming the civil society towards a right value system for state and nation-building. The bishop apprised him of the various areas that needed the urgent attention of the government and the civil society, especially corruption at different levels. The governor also expressed concern over the all-pervasive corruption. Joshi, a former police officer, takes over the reins of the state after serving as governor of Uttarakhand and Lt. Governor of Delhi.
[Goanet] Soluble fibre may benefit IBS sufferers: Study
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Re: [Goanet] Goans lived under the Portuguese
Antonio Menezes wrote the following: 'Were the Portuguese in Goa for the benefit of Goans ? Yes, but for a small minority of mostly mestissos, bamons and bhatkars' R Cabral added this: a: You are absolutely right. b: In fact the vast majority of people were oblivious of what went on around them except the fear, fear of assault and deprivation both within and without. c: They led simple lives and were economically poor. Their dwellings were single roomed mud houses built like chawls. d: Their only anxiety was to feed themselves. e: They were ignorant and as you said the bamonns took maximum advantage of this and appropriated their lands and properties. -- -- jc's response: I looked at Antonio's first (quoted above) sentence and thought to myself: What is AM saying? Did he actually mean to say:Did the Portuguese presence in Goa benefit Goa and Goans? IF so, there is a short answer to that: Perhaps a person who has done a comparative analysis of Goa with the surrounding territories i.e. Savantwadi and Karwar will answer that question. Since I have not, I will only say ...I do not know the answer to that question. Then comes Cabral with a statement which starts thus: In fact the VAST MAJORITY... I assume that Cabral has conducted a study OR read a scientific study which brought him to that conclusion. Cabral adds further that '[The vast majority of Goans lived in dwellings which were] single roomed mud houses built like chawls. Now, that puzzles me. I do not know IF it puzzles anyone else. Having seen 'chawls' in Poona and (what is now) Mumbai, I always thought that chawls were 3-4 stories high...with 'efficiencies' EACH holding one family. So, in one 'chawl' there would be about 20 'single-room efficiencies' holding 20 families. Perhaps, Cabral will advise us where these eficiencies are today - in which the vast majority of Goans lived. I must say that in my first year of medical school, I had the good fortune of traveling (on 20 consecutive weekends) with Jack and Erasmo Sequeira, Anant B Naik (Babu Naik) and Vasu Sarmalakar ALL over Goa for the Opinion Poll. Somehow, these chawls missed me.a vice-versa So, I await a solid reference to what Menezes and Cabral have stated. Forgive me IF I skip the 'anti-Bamon' tirade. I do not believe in the Caste System, and remain opposed to it - Whatever the Laws of Manu say about it. As far as the mesticos are concerned, the only properous mixed ones I know ..are the folks from Divar. But let me not go there for now. jc
Re: [Goanet] Goans lived in misery under Portuguese
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 19:20:26 -0400 From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com Now don't play Clinton with me. He was playing with Monica. Apart from that, he IS my favourite US President. Mario adds: If Clinton is your favorite US President, which would fit under the Birds of a feather... rule, it seems you would WANT Selma to play Clinton with you all day long:-))
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance
Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net: Christian fascism flourished and ended hundreds of years ago. Islamic fascism is on the march today and some far milder Hindu fascism within India as well. Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 23:45:06 +0530 From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * Always easier to point fingers at The Other! I believe every religious and non-religious ideology (including secularism and Science!) has its own phases of bigotry and intolerance. The more open we are to accepting this, working for reform, and placing self-correcting checks and balances in place, the better! Mario responds: Since I am the lone voice on Goanet of reason, truth and peace, I have no option but to point fingers at The Other:-)) My intolerance is restricted to truth-twisters and crabs. But you are absolutely right. Secularism is intolerant and bigoted towards religious fanaticism and science is bigoted and intolerant towards ignorance and intellectual charlatans. I'm curious about what checks and balances you are proposing for the Christian fascism that ended hundreds of years ago? Furthermore, aren't you one of those who opposed the checks and balances of US-led forces against the Islamo-fascists who were targeting and killing innocent Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan? I have no idea what reform you have in mind, or what self-correcting checks and balances look like when facing the Islamo-fascism that is on the march right now, whose primary victims are innocent Muslims followed by anyone else who gets in their way.
Re: [Goanet] Goans lived under the Portuguese
--- On Wed, 9/2/09, J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com wrote: I must say that in my first year of medical school, I had the good fortune of traveling (on 20 consecutive weekends) with Jack and Erasmo Sequeira, Anant B Naik (Babu Naik) and Vasu Sarmalakar ALL over Goa for the Opinion Poll. Somehow, these chawls missed me.a vice-versa - Antonio and Cabral are now added to the list of people who have not conducted a survey of Sawantwadi and Karwar. Perhaps it's because they are not interested in Sawantwadi and Karwar and if JC is so interested, he should conduct one himself. Here is another fine example of how JC goes off tangent. As JC was touring Goa with Jack Sequira on Salazar's white steed which until that time had been locked up in Portugal's diplomatic stables, he missed the chawls of Goa. Cabral never said there were chawls in Goa, what he said was most of the houses were one-room walled spaces much like the chawls of Bombay. Does JC not understand the word LIKE, as in similar too? Seems like all that Marathi, Hindi, Portuguese, french, Spanish deprived him of simple English. As for the houses being mud-walled one room dwellings, Cabral is spot on and if you had paid more attention while touring with Jack Sequira on your white horse, you might have noticed this. Or let me guess, you were too preoccupied sipping what was left of imported Portuguese tinto while nibbling on your bolinas de bacalhau. Best, Selma
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance
--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: A bigot is a person who is obstinately and irrationally, often intolerantly, devoted to his or her own religion, political party, organization, belief, or opinion, especially one who regards or treats those of differing devotion with hatred and intolerance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry Noronha claimed in his previous post that science is an ideology which has gone through phases of bigotry and intolerance, just like religious and political ideologies that we have seen in the past and are still seeing today. If he was really sincere and honest in his claims as a journalist, he would have given examples of fanatical scientific organizations or a group of scientists that are similar to Bajrang Dal, Al Quaida, Phineas Priesthood, etc. Not able to substantiate his statement he is reduced to accusing Goanetters like me who are merely stating facts and opinions in an internet forum, and sharing what little we know with our fellow Goans, of being bigoted and intolerant. Noronha wants you to believe that defending and promoting the rational scientific mindset, debunking quackery and correcting misinformation in a public forum is morally equivalent to being bigoted and intolerant like the ideological extremists who want to ban books, destroy works of art, threaten artists or kill innocent people. Is this a new advancement in moral and cultural relativism? Please read the definition of bigotry he has provided above. By applying this definition to me, he implies that I am bigoted because according to him I am irrational and intolerant, and I treat those with differing devotion with hatred. And all I am doing is contributing posts to Goanet using sober language. Are we dealing with a rare exception here or are there many journalists in this world who are willing to twist and dilute the definitions of bigotry and hatred in this manner? Cheers, Santosh --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक न fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: The Science-can-do-no-wrong, if-it-does-wrong-it-is-not-Science, the-rest-of-the-world-has-to-be-corrected-to-my-way-of-thinking we've seen (even on Goanet) makes me feel that Science might sometimes have the same arrogance that we accuse (probably not wrongly) the world of religion or communalism or politics or nationalism. As for 'secularism', there are many interpretations of what this term means. In the Indian context, the militant attempt at debunking religious views, seems to have pushed believers only deeper into the arms of the fundamentalists. This is only my opinion. Please don't Galelio-ise me for it! Besides, I obviously don't have the proof necessary to subject these views through the tests necessary for making this work as Scientific Evidence. But since you asked my views nonetheless, and a quote from the W'pedia! FN
[Goanet] Mr. Jairam Ramesh's visit to Goa
Mr. Jairam Ramesh's visit to Goa The moment it was announced, that the Union Minister for environment and forests Mr. Jairam Ramesh, would visit Goa to look into the CRZ issue, a lot of our Goans residing in the coastal belt were expecting Christmas in August, thinking that the Union Minister, sitting on Ali Baba's sledge dressed as Santa Clause would come with the much anticipated goodies, in the form of some concrete evidence that the Government would ensure that no more demolitions would be carried out in Goa and all the residential structures post 1991 would somehow be legalised, but to the utter disappointment, the people are left even more confused than ever before. Mr. Jairam pompously said that costal structures in the CRZ area existing prior to 1991, will be protected from demolition. Why do structures prior to 1991 need protection and did we really need the Union Minister to come all the way from Delhi to tell us that, because CRZ law clearly states that only structures post 1991 will be demolished, so why the dramatics ? Mr. Jairam has categorically stated that he has no solution to the structures that came up in CRZ area post 1991, if he has no solution to the main problem of Goans residing in Coastal Goa, what was the purpose or point of his visit to Goa ? Mr. Jairam further said that he advised the state government to seek more time from the high court to conduct a detailed survey of CRZ areas in Goa to identify houses of traditional fishermen, toddy tappers and other structures prior to 1991. How come structures prior 1991 were issued demolition notices and who is responsible this major error ? Why should the poor people suffer hardships and anxieties ? Mr. Jairam also stated that the Centre will not protect any five star hotel or commercial establishment, haven't our corrupt politicians proved, what they can do even with the order of the Court ? Mr. Jairam further says that there are peculiarities about Goa, but he cannot make any promises, but the problem is that, our politicians are responsible for majority of these peculiarities in Goa, so they should be taken to task in the first place. In the end Mr. Jairam says we have to implement the CRZ regulations in a manner that protects the livelihood of people. This is also a human issue, As an Aam Aadmi I am a bit confused about the protection factor, and the prized question that arises in my mind is, who needs protection from whom ? People have been living close to the coast, from time immemorial and it now in the 21st century that people living by the coast need protection ? People living close to forest areas have to be protected from fire, land slides and wild life, people living by the sides of the rivers, lakes and valleys have to be protected from flooding, people living in major cities have to be protected from terrorism, so can our esteemed minister tell us, where can we be safe ? If laws have to be implemented then, they have to be applied uniformly and consistently to one and all, with no exceptions. Just before Mr Jairam left he said that the Congress Government will do what it can for the people living in Costal areas, which has left me even more puzzled, in a few weeks time, will we be saying Mr Jairam Jai Ho, or will we be crying Jai Ram Sita Ram as we carry the remnants of our destroyed dwellings ? Freddy Agnelo Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 932
S. Parra brother of topmost composer of yesteryears Francis de Parra, was member of 'Young Stars of Bombay' an amateur group. He has participated mostly in this group's show, besides a few professinal tiatrist shows. He was a composer singer mostly singing duets with Vincent and trios with Bai Maria, Vincent. another amateur artiste. Was doing serious as well as comedy roles. Seen in the tiatr 'Boroinnar Ani Director' and 'Mogachi Sojea' of Thomas de Candolim. Fausto Joe wrote Could some one write a few lines on Tiatrist ?Piedade Felicio Faria (Sabin)? I think I never seen or heard about this tiatrist.
[Goanet] Fw: Amazing Grace - Quartet
Four Men singing inside the Coliseum in Rome . Click on the link below and enjoy! It is an enjoyable 4 minutes. Bagpipes and all. http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1785324681?bclid=1338935106bctid=1913313052 -- STANLEY PINTO 153 The Embassy 15 Ali Askar Road Bangalore 560 052 INDIA Tel: +91-80-2220 3320 4114 8153 Mobile +91 98453 95319 E-mail: stanleyvo...@gmail.com Skype: stanleyvonne Blog: http://stanleypinto.livejournal.com
[Goanet] Tiatrist Parra
Albert writes:_ When I was a teacher in st Rita's high school colvale, i used to act in tiatros in that village and once there was a gentleman by name Parra (that was his stage name ) sang a song or two. He was working in Kuwait but I do not know whether he had any relations in Colvale or Revora but he was very famous over there and people enjoyed his songs. I remember he sang a song Gordi I even prompted this song for him and i had to write the song myself for him to do the prompting. I do not know wther he is the same S Parra who have died. _ We all see it as it is. But on MSN India, the difference lies in perspective. http://in.msn.com
Re: [Goanet] Why people believe in lies?
Mario previously wrote: Has anyone seen Bosco acknowledge that seriously ill patients in Canada are routinely subjected to rationed care? Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:48:23 -0400 From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com More distortions!! Mario responds: I looked in vain of at least one example where Bosco has shown where I have distorted something. In the meantime he is unable to show where he has acknowledged that seriously ill patients are placed on waiting lists in Canada. Yet he continues to repeat his abusive claims that my comment above is a distortion. Mario previously wrote: Has anyone seen Bosco acknowledge that MANY (caps by Bosco) Canadians have to come to the US, where there are no waiting lists, if they want to live? Bosco's responded: MANY?? Many as in more than Some?? Bah!! More distortions!! Mario responds: Here is an article that reports on the MANY - not more than some - Canadians who come to the US for serious treatment. Even contractual arrabgements are being arranged so that even more can come. Compare the contents of the article with what Bosco is alleging above. Why is Bosco deliberately distorting well know facts about the Canadian health care system? Perhaps he did not read the article. http://freep.com/article/20090820/BUSINESS06/908200420/1319/ Mario previously wrote: Yet, while shutting his eyes tightly to the facts that are emerging from the leadership physicians in Canada, he continues to describe my balanced reporting as More distortions!! Accompanied with smears, personal invective, gratuituous comments, etc. Bosco responded: Even more distortions!! Mario responds: I have clearly shown that Bosco has been engaged in unsubstantiated and abusive allegations of distortion, while he is unable to show a single distortion I have made on Canadian health care. Mario previously wrote: Readers should make up their own minds as to who is really engaging in distortions, smearing, personal invective and gratuitous comments. WHILE AVOIDING THE SPECIFICS OF THE DISCUSSION ALTOGETHER. Bosco responded: Nobody is reading your bhashans. If you are looking for distortions, smearing, personal invective and gratuitous comments, read what you write. Mario responds: Once again Bosco avoids the topic, which is the 'imploding Canadian health care system, and engages in smears, slander and calumny instead. Mario previously wrote: Here we see Bosco suggesting that the last word on this subject should be his deliberate DISTORTIONS AND half-truths about the Canadian health care system, which the incoming President of the Canadian Medical Association recently said was imploding. Bosco responded: You are not a Canadian and neither do you live in Canada. Cut-and-paste artistry will not help you understand issues. You have no idea of reality in Canada. Mario responds: I don't have to be a chicken to know how to lay an egg. The new President of the Canadian Medical Association, Dr. Ann Doig, who obviously knows far more than you do about Canadian health care while you have been burying your head in the sand, said just a few days ago that the system is imploding. A previous President of the CMA, Dr. Bryan Day, said last week that 5 million Canadians [15% of the population] have no primary care physician, one million are on waiting lists for surgery and another million on a waiting list to see a surgeon to get on another waiting list for the actual surgery. Tsk, tsk, tsk. In the US, no waiting lists for serious medican situations, even for those who cannot pay. In the meantime all Bosco can do is call these facts distortions', without providing any facts or examples on behalf of his claims. Mario previously wrote: Just in case Bosco doesn't understand what the word means, imploding means, to break down or fall apart from within. Bosco responded: I can see your constant bouts of last-wordism on every issue is leading you to implode with regularity. Sometimes you are wrong! Just plain wrong but continue to froth and squirm. Mario responds: This has nothing to do with last wordism or about any other topic. It has everything to do with the truth, which you are denying when it comes to the Canadian health care system. There are many comments on Goanet I do not need to correct because the posters have used real facts to go with their opinions, regardless of whether I agree with their opinions or not. You have been writing baseless comments and then lashing out at my documented information exposing those as bogus. Mario previously wrote: Bosco and Mervyn are within the Canadian health care system and by denying facts and incoherently lashing out at honest criticisms, are inhibiting any rational discussion as to what can be done about that sorry situation, at least in this forum. Bosco responded: You demonstrate with regularity, you are not capable of rational discussion. Just.you guessed
[Goanet] Punn...Tum Goykar.
A Tiatr dubbed the long awaited thriller presented by Goan Chaplaincy - UK. on 30th August 2009. We were getting ready to take the tram down to the venue, when by bro-in-law offered us a lift, how sweet! We left home at 1.15 pm and reached there at 1.40 pm...far too early. People were arriving and it was quite crowded at the entrance, as everyone sought their tickets, which were kept at the door. The venue was the Archbishop Le Franc Hall, the new spiritual home of Goans, once we lost our Club House and grounds. As soon as we entered the Hall there was a 'hello Lily', from a lady we had not seen for ages, so my wife Lily was off for a chin wag. She told me that the person told her that she always remembers us and the wonderful times we had at the Club House, we were the best people to run the place and Members unnecessarily gave us 'castig'. The Tiatr was supposed to start at 2 pm but as is usual at these events, we were kept waiting. Before commencing, the Band struck up some numbers and immediately I knew that we were in for a treat. The Band had youngsters playing Brass instruments and the music was in unison. There was Maths on the Drums and Jesus (lead guitarist) twanging away on the strings. It was uplifting music 'mojea poti bombaim gela' (Sp?) The opening song by Jr Nelson, extolled that we were Goykars, irrespective of whether we were Shashtikars or Bardezkars. Soon after a lady appeared, dressed in a stunning saree and with a melodious voice. The Gold braid accentuated her curvaceous figure; my friend next to me was wide eyed with gaping mouth! The story line was about the plunder and destruction of Goa and the outward migration. Others were filling up the void and were gleeful with 'I love Goa'. I shall not let you into the whole story, as others are waiting to see this well put together Tiatr, which had us aching with laughter. There was the cry about bringing up children in London - a son who was in a drug rehab centre and a daughter footloose and fancy free; the father was shocked that there was a pregnancy report - mother says don't worry it's negative! The moral was, spare the rod and spoil the child - although we were immediately reminded that one can't raise a hand here, as the Police are soon called in. There was also the wife asking 'give me divorce' The husband quipped that divorce was not for Goan Catholics. I don't know if this was tongue in cheek, written in by Fr. Lucas, as I spied with my little eye, some divorcees present, who are well known and remarried for good measure. This Tiatr would do well in the Gulf and also in Goa. At the least a VCD should be produced, the Goans who were from Goa performed and sang really well, Anil Pednekar carried his part with ease. Fr Francis has a good voice and sang a duet which was outstanding. It seems that Goans are getting hot under the collar because of lax morals, the loss of our culture and the loss of Goa! -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London. P.S. Why is it still raining in Goa?
[Goanet] FWD: [Fwd: India Colloquium at URI - Semester's Program e-resources]
Hello Goanetters Thought some of you might be interested in this Honors Colloquim on India at the University of Rhode Island, USA Celina Pereira MD - Forwarded Message - From: Nik Dholakia n...@uri.edu To: THEFORUM-L theforu...@listserv.uri.edu Subject: India Colloquium at URI - Semester's Program e-resources Dear Colleagues, You, your family or friends in Southern New England are invited to attend some/all of the events of the University of Rhode Island (URI) Fall-2009 Honors Colloquium entitled Demystifying India http://www.uri.edu/hc/. Please share these widely with your networks. Even if people cannot attend the events, they can follow (and contribute to) some of the goings-on via electronic sites. * The Demystifying India program is at this site: http://www.uri.edu/hc/ We have also created a number of social networking type electronic sites. We invite you to join/follow/visit these, and to encourage others to join/follow/visit: Facebook Group: Demystifying Indiahttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=128340360453 Twitter: IndiaAtURI http://twitter.com/IndiaAtURI YouTube channel: IndiaAtURIVideohttp://www.youtube.com/user/IndiaAtURIVideo URI Sakai site: IndiaAtURIhttps://sakai.uri.edu/portal/site/4a31ddd2-1618-4ad8-b6db-7b566f2c0 64d(URI folks can join via their ID. Others should email n...@uri.edu to join this site) * We look forward to participation from you and your contacts, at the events and/or in electronic sites. __ Nik Dholakia University of Rhode Island You can view some of my research on the SSRN Author page: http://ssrn.com/author=458384 __ Celina Pereira, MD Staff Physician Univ. of Rhode Island Health Services 6 Butterfield Road Kingston, RI 02881 401-874-2246 401-874-2586 fax c...@uri.edu
Re: [Goanet] Religion and Tolerance
Frederick [FN] Noronha * ? fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote: A bigot is a person who is obstinately and irrationally, often intolerantly, devoted to his or her own religion, political party, organization, belief, or opinion, especially one who regards or treats those of differing devotion with hatred and intolerance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:00:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com If he was really sincere and honest in his claims as a journalist, he would have given examples of fanatical scientific organizations or a group of scientists that are similar to Bajrang Dal, Al Quaida, Phineas Priesthood, etc. Not able to substantiate his statement he is reduced to accusing Goanetters like me who are merely stating facts and opinions in an internet forum, and sharing what little we know with our fellow Goans, of being bigoted and intolerant. Noronha wants you to believe that defending and promoting the rational scientific mindset, debunking quackery and correcting misinformation in a public forum is morally equivalent to being bigoted and intolerant like the ideological extremists who want to ban books, destroy works of art, threaten artists or kill innocent people. Mario adds: Santosh, Shame on you for defending and promoting the rational scientific mindset, debunking quackery and correcting misinformation on Goanet, which proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that you are bigoted and intolerant towards those devoted to the practice of smug and chronic ignorance:-)) Besides, haven't you heard of mad scientists running around with baseball bats beating up anyone who cannot add 2 plus 2? However, if you read Fred's definition closely, you will see that bigotry is restricted to those who belong to a religion, political party, organization, belief, or opinion So, if you traffic in mere scientific facts you may be exempt, especially if you stay away from being obstinate and irrational and also hatred and intolerance towards those devoted to either ignorance deliberate scientific misrepresentations. Only you can decide if you are up to the challenge:-)) Without my perspicacious and lonely voice of reason, truth and peace you may have completely missed these important insights and nuances:-))
[Goanet] Bigotry... and bias
This is an interesting study that I chanced upon: (PhysOrg.com) -- People do not get any more racially prejudiced as they age -- but they do become less able to hide it, suggests a new study by researchers at UC Davis, the University of Freiburg and the University of Sydney. http://www.physorg.com/news156624691.html It explains perhaps why, 15 years into Goanet, we all seem more bigoted today then we seemed yesterday :-) FN -- FN +91-9822122436 P +91-832-2409490 Konkani adages http://konkani-adages.notlong.com/ Medieval Goa http://medieval-goa.notlong.com/
Re: [Goanet] Ted Kennedy Dead
From: Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net From: isouza icso...@sancharnet.in Mario asks: Fr. Ivo, You don't seem to understand that cancer has to be looked at on a case by case basis. Every case of cancer is not curable so far, whereas there are some formes of cancer that are now almost always curable if caught early enough. Fr. Ivo wrote: I am meeting everyday people who have no hope of being cured of cancer... Mario responds: Instead of spreading religious quackery on Goanet, perhaps you can go to Mumbai and convince Dr. Luzito DeSouza or Tata Memorial to open a cancer clinic in Goa. ***You are wrong, this is not religious quackery. We have Shanti Avedna in Goa, and we know how much cancer is cured... We have lost a young man who was declared cured after the chemotherapy and surgery, and when he was thanking all for the cure, he died of cancer... Fr. Ivo wrote: the fact is that I find no evidence with the patients that I know... Mario responds: Sounds like the blind leading the blind. Like John Paul II counseling couples on marital relations, and Pope Benny advising the world on economics and depriving people from less developed countries from getting jobs from outsourcing from the developed countries. ***We are not blind. You seem to be blind to understand that Benedict XVI is not writing against oursourcing... What John Paul II wrote about marital relations is valid...If you can speak of your experience, others can tell you about theirs. What kind of guarantee does Faith provide? Can it guarantee a cure for cancer? ***Neither can Science provide guarantee for cure of cancer... Faith can provide a miracle... But we cannot demand it from God. Therefore, this admission is not ignorance, but wisdom. May the Goanetters choose to be guided by prudence, not by scientific quackery, and not dance to the tune of the scientists and politicians... Are you aware that you are spreading not wisdon, but religious quackery, and asking us to dance to your tune? ***What is religious quackery in this posting? I have not spoken of religion, but of problems of medicine itself. Not true. When my cancer was detected it had not spread. ***My statement is a general statement. It is difficult to detect it early. While I was thinking about your condition, I met a lady whose mother was operated of cancer of stomach in the first stage, but it spread to oesophagus and she died within short time... It is not cure, but prolongation of life...sometimes it is fast death... ***In most cases, there is recurrence, because cancer is not local, but systemic, it spreads through blood or lymph. If it is metastasized, it is only palliated. There can be remission. We witness only deaths. If it metastatizes it's generally Hasta la vista. Time to organize a farewell party and prepare to go out in style:-)) ***Thank God and faith quackery that you are still alive to give us your wisdom... I do not know anyone who is alive among those whom I know... So what? People die of other diseases as well, in spite of medical treatment. Others respond to medical treatment and survive. ***Again, you are committing a blunder. Cancer is a serious, incurable disease... There is no cure, total and permanent, as yet. Research is going on to find a cure for cancer. Only then you can say that cancer is curable, all types, at all stages... I am speaking of cancer now, not of other diseases. There are also more incurable diseases... When you say that some do not respond to the medical treatment, you admit that the disease was incurable in that case, in that stage..., in short, the limits of medical science. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Houston: Joe Fernandes' murder caught on video
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Source: Goan Voice Daily Newsletter 2 September 2009. 1 Sep: ABC Local. It was the first day of work for 54-year-old Joe Fernandes. he came face to face with three gunmen who robbed him, then murdered him. In the surveillance video, you can see the masked men jump behind the counter and harass Fernandes for money before shooting him dead. He was a family man, the father of a daughter and tragically a son who was killed a year prior. For text and video see http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/localid=6992838 John Fernandes was murdered in Missouri in Aug 2008. For details see http://www.spiceislander.com/?p=568 Joe Fernandes was born in Candolim, Goa. He married Agnes and they had two children, the late John and Tina. The family lived in Kuwait and moved to US in 2000. For a photo of Joe Fernandes see http://goanvoice.org.uk/newsletter/2009/September/2009_September_02.html Eddie Fernandes
[Goanet] Goa news for September 3, 2009
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Two new showrooms/office spaces, double height (135 sq m each with bath) for lease in upscale Campal/Miramar beach area, Panaji, Goa. Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa board worried over mining rejects being dumped in reservoir - SamayLive oa-mines-under-government-scanner/articleshow/4958846.cmsusg=AFQjCNG5lIz-ePxMXGt142F61QVjk-cYew91 Goa mines under government scanner http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.samaylive.com/news/goa-board-worried-over-mining-rejects-being-dumped-in-reservoir/653517.htmlusg=AFQjCNGZYzyVNb92iu7Q3K5d0LS5qbVOgQ *** Southwest monsoon active in Konkan region, Goa - Press Trust of India ess Trust of IndiaPune, Sept 2 (PTI) The southwest monsoon has been active in Konkan region, Goa, Vidarbha, coastal Karnataka and Kerala, according to Meteorological ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/261303_Southwest-monsoon-active-in-Konkan-region--Goausg=AFQjCNH0jeniAKKsw-upJPk25sssEgO_Bw *** CBSE schools in Goa unhappy over optional board exam - Times of India mes of IndiaPANAJI: Parents and teachers of the Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE) schools in Goa are less than happy over the Union Human Resources ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/CBSE-schools-in-Goa-unhappy-over-optional-board-exam/articleshow/4960999.cmsusg=AFQjCNFy_gqjMzy_MmJWLEw79b_wNNIqeA *** 'Chip-tower network not specified' - Times of India word-hangs-over-HSRP/articleshow/4966217.cmsusg=AFQjCNEy_paC0f25pYckNXvwzPtIBuDqYgSC sword hangs over HSRP http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/Chip-tower-network-not-specified/articleshow/4966213.cmsusg=AFQjCNFPkuY1-Zh8s4m0Y8u_UP0Dtc9odg *** Bar codes, e-portal for Goan handicrafts - Times of India ortal are in store for Goan handicrafts. The decision to introduce these measures - in a bid to promote ... http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/Bar-codes-e-portal-for-Goan-handicrafts/articleshow/4960931.cmsusg=AFQjCNEEEUWjgGZu6DR9xpf-zIL3D7vbkw *** Australian iron ore mines worry Goa exporters - Times of India ron-ore-exporters-wary-about-prices-uncertain-market/653339.htmlusg=AFQjCNGvuxiB2BJ4eSb_lFOxwELwiLwV5wGoa's iron ore exporters wary about prices, uncertain market http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/Australian-iron-ore-mines-worry-Goa-exporters/articleshow/4960866.cmsusg=AFQjCNE86UmhYv1E-0BjsDWbBIqW_4cqWg *** Goa plans promotion of handicrafts through web portal - Press Trust of India ess Trust of IndiaPanaji, Sep 2 (PTI) Keen on promoting its handicraft items in the global market, Goa plans to launch a web portal soon to attract foreign buyers. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://www.ptinews.com/news/260800_Goa-plans-promotion-of-handicrafts-through-web-portalusg=AFQjCNFPj6rnUckfBmvmvOP9DqP7xk9Lkg *** S Goa woman is swine flu ve - Times of India ear-old woman from South Goa tested positive for swine flu, taking the number of confirmed cases in the state to 25. The woman was admitted to ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/S-Goa-woman-is-swine-flu-ve/articleshow/4959985.cmsusg=AFQjCNHbNNeCpPtDjknQC-yP35FwbpM9xQ *** Iberian tradition, Goan artistry world market - Times of India mes of IndiaSo it could be the Statue of Liberty or even Greek gods sending thunderbolts through the sky that azulejo artists in Goa are drawing. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/city/goa/Iberian-tradition-Goan-artistry-world-market/articleshow/4961676.cmsusg=AFQjCNGcQe3BvPLw-uQ1VT3nzry5PVXguA *** Nikhil throws a Goa style party - Times of India tyle party. ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=Rsa=Turl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/4963351.cmsusg=AFQjCNGuAqyO74egMoJM031xkYCMN3ALlw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
