from:"Jonathan"

I don't believe I use Objectify, unless it's used transparently by the Java 
Datastore API. Here's a snippet of code that shows how I use the API:

DatastoreService datastore = DatastoreServiceFactory.getDatastoreService();
Key key = KeyFactory.stringToKey(serKey);
try {
Entity entity = datastore.get(key);

Is there any caching involved here, on the Java side? If there is, then 
what you and Jeff say is definitely the problem.


On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 11:47:12 PM UTC-4, Chad Vincent wrote:
>
> Just to be 100% clear (sorry I keep double-posting, it's a bad habit):
>
> Java and Python modules in the same app share Memcache, which is just a 
> giant Key-Object map.
>
> Objectify uses different Memcache keys than NDB.  I don't remember Ofy's 
> format, and can't find NDB's, so let's just say 
> [ofy-agR0ZXN0cgkLEgNGb28YGQw] vs. [ndb-agR0ZXN0cgkLEgNGb28YGQw].  So when 
> you do an NDB write, [ndb-agR0ZXN0cgkLEgNGb28YGQw] gets invalidated and 
> [ofy-agR0ZXN0cgkLEgNGb28YGQw] is stale.
>
> You need to either add a wrapper to NDB to ensure you're invalidating the 
> Objectify cache, too, or disable *at least* Objectify's caching for that 
> entity type.
>
> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 10:40:18 PM UTC-5, Chad Vincent wrote:
>>
>> > When I write an entity on the Python side, NDB invalidates the entity's 
>> cache entry (according to the docs),
>>
>> I think you missed the *key* part of Jeff's response.  Objectify and NDB 
>> do not use the same entries in Memcache.  So while NDB on Python 
>> invalidated *its* cache entry, Objectify used a different namespace and 
>> thus the Objectify cached entry is still there.
>>
>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 8:33:19 PM UTC-5, Jonathan Munson wrote:
>>>
>>> I now think that caching shouldn't be an issue. When I write an entity 
>>> on the Python side, NDB invalidates the entity's cache entry (according to 
>>> the docs), forcing (strongly consistent) reads to get the value from the 
>>> Datastore service. So a lookup-by-key read from the Java side should get 
>>> the most recently written value, according to Chad.
>>>
>>> I think I'm going to have to put a version counter on the entity, which 
>>> I'll increment on the Python side, then pass to the Java module so it can 
>>> check the value of it when it gets the entity from the Datastore. "Trust 
>>> but verify."
>>>
>>> --Jon
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 8:56:18 PM UTC-4, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There is no standard way of storing entities in memcache. Objectify 
>>>> uses its own namespace and uses the string version of Keys as the cache 
>>>> key. I don’t know what NDB does.
>>>>
>>>> Cache invalidation is already a hard problem (that and naming things, 
>>>> as they say). If you want to access data from both python and java, best 
>>>> to 
>>>> disable the memcache behavior of both NDB and Objectify (don’t put @Cache 
>>>> on anything shared).
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Jonathan Munson <jpmu...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Chad. Re your comment about caching, I am using NDB on the 
>>>>> Python side, which I thought used memcache automatically. So I guess I am 
>>>>> using caching, but I thought that modules in the same project (mine are) 
>>>>> shared memcache. Is that not true if one module is Python and the other 
>>>>> Java?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 3:07:43 PM UTC-4, Chad Vincent wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, make sure you aren't doing deferred writes or starting the Java 
>>>>>> request before your Python transaction closes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 2:05:06 PM UTC-5, Chad Vincent wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.  Consistency is handled by the database layer, not the 
>>>>>>> application runtime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HOWEVER, if you are caching entities (Objectify, etc.) you either 
>>>>>>> need to ensure your Memcache keys are identical or disable caching for 
>>>>>>> those entities.  Otherwise the Java cache may return a stale result 
>>>>>>> because 
>>>>>>> the Python module didn't clear/update the entity on write.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>&

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Is Datastore lookup-by-key strongly consistent when write is done in Python module and read is done in Java module?

I now think that caching shouldn't be an issue. When I write an entity on 
the Python side, NDB invalidates the entity's cache entry (according to the 
docs), forcing (strongly consistent) reads to get the value from the 
Datastore service. So a lookup-by-key read from the Java side should get 
the most recently written value, according to Chad.

I think I'm going to have to put a version counter on the entity, which 
I'll increment on the Python side, then pass to the Java module so it can 
check the value of it when it gets the entity from the Datastore. "Trust 
but verify."

--Jon

On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 8:56:18 PM UTC-4, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
>
> There is no standard way of storing entities in memcache. Objectify uses 
> its own namespace and uses the string version of Keys as the cache key. I 
> don’t know what NDB does.
>
> Cache invalidation is already a hard problem (that and naming things, as 
> they say). If you want to access data from both python and java, best to 
> disable the memcache behavior of both NDB and Objectify (don’t put @Cache 
> on anything shared).
>
> Jeff
>
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Jonathan Munson <jpmu...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Chad. Re your comment about caching, I am using NDB on the Python 
>> side, which I thought used memcache automatically. So I guess I am using 
>> caching, but I thought that modules in the same project (mine are) shared 
>> memcache. Is that not true if one module is Python and the other Java?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 3:07:43 PM UTC-4, Chad Vincent wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, make sure you aren't doing deferred writes or starting the Java 
>>> request before your Python transaction closes.
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 2:05:06 PM UTC-5, Chad Vincent wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes.  Consistency is handled by the database layer, not the application 
>>>> runtime.
>>>>
>>>> HOWEVER, if you are caching entities (Objectify, etc.) you either need 
>>>> to ensure your Memcache keys are identical or disable caching for those 
>>>> entities.  Otherwise the Java cache may return a stale result because the 
>>>> Python module didn't clear/update the entity on write.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 8:41:07 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Munson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have an app wherein a Datastore entity is written to by a Python 
>>>>> module (using NDB), and then in an immediately following request, read 
>>>>> from, using the entity's key, by a Java module. In a situation where the 
>>>>> app was heavily loaded, it seemed like the Java module was reading stale 
>>>>> data. The Datastore documentation says that lookup-by-key requests are 
>>>>> strongly consistent, but does that apply even when writes are from a 
>>>>> Python 
>>>>> module and reads are from a Java module?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> --Jon
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[google-appengine] Re: Is Datastore lookup-by-key strongly consistent when write is done in Python module and read is done in Java module?

Thanks, Chad. Re your comment about caching, I am using NDB on the Python 
side, which I thought used memcache automatically. So I guess I am using 
caching, but I thought that modules in the same project (mine are) shared 
memcache. Is that not true if one module is Python and the other Java?


On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 3:07:43 PM UTC-4, Chad Vincent wrote:
>
> Also, make sure you aren't doing deferred writes or starting the Java 
> request before your Python transaction closes.
>
> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 2:05:06 PM UTC-5, Chad Vincent wrote:
>>
>> Yes.  Consistency is handled by the database layer, not the application 
>> runtime.
>>
>> HOWEVER, if you are caching entities (Objectify, etc.) you either need to 
>> ensure your Memcache keys are identical or disable caching for those 
>> entities.  Otherwise the Java cache may return a stale result because the 
>> Python module didn't clear/update the entity on write.
>>
>> On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 8:41:07 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Munson wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We have an app wherein a Datastore entity is written to by a Python 
>>> module (using NDB), and then in an immediately following request, read 
>>> from, using the entity's key, by a Java module. In a situation where the 
>>> app was heavily loaded, it seemed like the Java module was reading stale 
>>> data. The Datastore documentation says that lookup-by-key requests are 
>>> strongly consistent, but does that apply even when writes are from a Python 
>>> module and reads are from a Java module?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --Jon
>>>
>>

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[google-appengine] Is Datastore lookup-by-key strongly consistent when write is done in Python module and read is done in Java module?

Hi,

We have an app wherein a Datastore entity is written to by a Python module 
(using NDB), and then in an immediately following request, read from, using 
the entity's key, by a Java module. In a situation where the app was 
heavily loaded, it seemed like the Java module was reading stale data. The 
Datastore documentation says that lookup-by-key requests are strongly 
consistent, but does that apply even when writes are from a Python module 
and reads are from a Java module?

Thanks,

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[google-appengine] [ANN] new mailing list for Google APIs with Go

2016-07-01 Thread 'Jonathan Amsterdam' via Google App Engine

If you use Go to access Google APIs (for example, by using the Google Cloud
API clients at import paths starting with "google.golang.org/cloud"), we
recommend you join the new group google-api-go-announce
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[google-appengine] You don't have permission to see App Engine application in this project.

2016-06-13 Thread Jonathan Nativ

Access denied to:
https://console.cloud.google.com/appengine/quotadetails?project==default

Message:
You don't have permission to see App Engine application in this project.

Never happened before

Any idea how to get into my appengine account?

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[google-appengine] How to use Datastore and Cloud SQL together

2014-10-02 Thread Jonathan Solorzano



I need an scalable database, and i know that NoSQL is the best option for 
that, but i also need an interface that will help me observe my data with 
some complex sql query, and SQL is the way to do so, but i don't know how 
to use SQL  NoSQL together.

According to Google I/O 2012 - SQL vs NoSQL: Battle of the Backends 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRoy6I4gKWU it's possible (min 30:32) 
it's possible to use both Cloud Dastore and Cloud SQL together... BUT HOW?, 
i mean what will be the connection between them both?, also how to manage 
that data from PHP?

Probably the connection will be the app, so that i'll store huge amounts of 
data in Datastore  analize aspects of it via SQL engine, but if i have the 
data in Datastore how will i use Cloud SQL to analize it via complex querys?

Here's an image taken from Battle of the backends 
http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/io2012/presentations/live%20to%20website/306.pdf
 representing 
what i want to know to do. 

[image: enter image description here]

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[google-appengine] Lag with google datastore

2014-01-24 Thread jonathan pedoeem

Hello all, 
I am working on making an extremely simple blog for a udacity class I am 
taking, one problem I have ran into is that whenever I submit a new post 
and redirect to the front page of the website the post does not appear. I 
have to refresh the page and only then it does appear (only shows the old 
ones). That lag though
I am thinking it has something to do with the fact that I am loading all 
the posts in the the GET  of the main page should I be doing it in the 
POST? ( I am still kind of confused when to use each)
Here is a copy of my code.

(I think the problem is under mainhandler)

http://pastebin.com/jj3H3yrs

I submit the entries object to the html and use a for loop with Jinja2 to 
post each title and text.



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[google-appengine] Re: Duplicate app when you have too many apps

2013-12-19 Thread Jonathan Brier

Try disabling a few of your apps and try migrating.  I found that as long 
as you have less than your limit active you can migrate then enable the 
migrated apps.

On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:29:07 AM UTC-5, Zachary Yaro wrote:

 I am also running into this issue on my account 
 (zmy...@gmail.comjavascript:). 
  I still have apps I have not migrated because I do not want to delete any 
 apps to make room for the new HRD app ids.

 On Saturday, January 5, 2013 9:54:27 PM UTC-5, Nguyễn Kim Kha wrote:

 Me too... Please help...

 Vào 02:27:48 UTC+7 Thứ bảy, ngày 07 tháng một năm 2012, Ricardo Bánffy đã 
 viết:

 Hi folks.

 Is there a way around the not allowed to create anymore apps;reached
 app creation limit? message when you are trying to migrate an app to
 HRD? BTW, is there a way to keep the app id?

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[google-appengine] Is this a valid statement of Task Queue in GAE In some cases, a single task may be executed more than once or not at all.

2013-07-18 Thread Jonathan Twomley

I have a push Task Queue that has task's that run based on an ETA. When the 
task run's it creates pull Task Records.
When each pull task record is created we check to see that was_enqueued == 
true

This all works great on a small amount of load. When we are under a large 
load it appears that items disapear from the pull queue. We have a full 
list of task's that should be pulled but not all of them exist to be pulled.

Has anyone experienced this issue?



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[google-appengine] Migration to HRD blocked due to max free applications claimed

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Brier

I am unable to migrate to HRD due to not having any free applications to 
create a duplicate of current names.  I have a few application names 
unused, but were claimed and should be able to be directly upgraded which 
is not possible in the current upgrade path.  I need someone from Google to 
allocate more application names for this account if possible to help 
resolve the situation unless there is another solution.

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Re: [google-appengine] Migration to HRD blocked due to max free applications claimed

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Brier

Thank you Barry, that did it.  Sometimes the simplest things are the
hardest to see. :)

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@gmail.comwrote:

 If they are unused, just disable them.

 A disabled application does not actully count towards your '10 apps'

 That should give you a few empty slots you can use to upgrade your main
 maps in turn.


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 I am unable to migrate to HRD due to not having any free applications to
 create a duplicate of current names.  I have a few application names
 unused, but were claimed and should be able to be directly upgraded which
 is not possible in the current upgrade path.  I need someone from Google to
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Re: [google-appengine] Duplicate app when you have too many apps

2013-02-11 Thread Jonathan Brier

I'm also running into the Migration limit due to having claimed 10 free app 
id's after learning to use Google App Engine.  

Adding permissions to have more id's on an account would fix this for me.   
Not knowing how pervasive this issue is but a more graceful approach would 
have improved the user experience such as having the migration tool detect 
how many free apps the user has.  If the migration increases the number 10 
allow +1 more up to and equal to 20.  Upon successful migration prompt to 
disable the non HRD accounts and eventually close the non HRD after a few 
weeks.  If the account has not been used it could bypass the migration need 
and just upgrade app to name-HDR and not need to add new accounts IMO.

Either way a fix for my account would be much appreciated. (I was over 
ambitious on the time I had to develop for all these accounts)  I'm just 
looking to take the names and move to name-HDR... 

On Friday, January 6, 2012 3:11:49 PM UTC-5, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote:

 Migrating to HRD using the new migration tool will create an alias, so 
 requests to the old app ID should go to the new one. You do still have to 
 create a new application ID, however.

 I've allocated a few more app IDs for your account. The current policy is 
 that you can have up to 10 free applications and an unlimited amount of 
 paid applications, but I think it's reasonable make exemptions on a 
 case-by-case basis for people who have been using GAE for a long time who 
 are migrating to HRD.

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[google-appengine] High performance image serving error 500

2012-11-13 Thread Jonathan

Hi,
for the last 30 minutes users can't upload pictures to my system 
(app.imcreator.com/edit)

that's the erroe from the log:

ApplicationError: 7 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/_webapp25.py,
 line 712, in __call__
handler.post(*groups)
  File 
/base/data/home/apps/im-creator/181-zarif.362980194933832017/im-creator.py, 
line 2042, in post
files.finalize(file_name)
  File 
/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/files/file.py,
 line 568, in finalize
f.close(finalize=True)
  File 
/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/files/file.py,
 line 291, in close
self._make_rpc_call_with_retry('Close', request, response)
  File 
/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/files/file.py,
 line 427, in _make_rpc_call_with_retry
_make_call(method, request, response)
  File 
/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/files/file.py,
 line 252, in _make_call
_raise_app_error(e)
  File 
/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/files/file.py,
 line 186, in _raise_app_error
raise UnknownError(e)
UnknownError: ApplicationError: 7 



Any idea? please fix.


Thanks!

J

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[google-appengine] Newbie

2012-07-29 Thread jonathan drake

I have no idea what I'm doing, but a new app must be created for the safety 
of the community!  No one else is taking preventive actions against 
dangerous individuals and registered sex offenders, so I feel that I must. 
 I would like to create an app for smart phones where you can either 
scan/photograph the bar code on the back of a Driver's liscense or type in 
their full name and search both the Maryland court cases (for major crimes) 
and the federal registered sex offender site.  Both of these databases are 
open to the public, but neither are accessible through phone.  After a 
recent incident in my community, I feel like I need to make that happen. 
 Any suggestions are much appreciated. 

Thank you,
Jonathan

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[google-appengine] Unicode regex pattern in Webapp2 WSGIApplication URL Mapping

2012-05-09 Thread Jonathan

In the python regex module, when you set the re.UNICODE flag, the '\w' word 
pattern will match 

  the characters [0-9_] plus whatever is classified as alphanumeric in the 
 Unicode character properties database.


i.e. It will match the characters a-z in English.  It will also match latin 
accented characters, such as à (0x00E0), ė (0x0117) or Asian word 
characters 我 (0x6211, meaning 'I'), 你 (0x4F60, meaning 'you'), which is 
brilliant for supporting other languages easily.  

I want to be able to have my URL to match alphanumeric unicode characters 
in it:
  /Search/hello
  /Search/hablé
  /Search/我会明白

--  app = webapp2.WSGIApplication( [*'/Search/[\w]+'*, SearchHandler ], 
...)

But I cannot find a way to set the unicode flag for the WSGIApplication 
regex pattern.  i.e. the above pattern only matches the a-z characters and 
not any of the other unicode alphanumeric characters.  I've tried including 
the shortcut unicode flag (?u) in the string, but that didn't work.  Is 
there a way to set the unicode flag?  

Thanks in advance.  I'm using App Engine ver 1.6.5 and Python 2.7.  


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[google-appengine] Cant run dev server

This is my directory structure:

GAE
  myapp
 app.yaml
 hello
   hello.go

I'm on OSX and I cd to the GAE directory, (I have added the Google app 
engine folder to my path) and then do the following command:

dev_appserver.py myapp/

This is what I get in response:

WARNING 2012-04-01 12:39:26,966 urlfetch_stub.py:111] No ssl package found. 
urlfetch will not be able to validate SSL certificates. WARNING 2012-04-01 
12:39:26,994 rdbms_mysqldb.py:74] The rdbms API is not available because 
the MySQLdb library could not be loaded. Traceback (most recent call last): 
File /Users/Jonathan/Downloads/google_appengine-2/dev_appserver.py, line 
125, in module run_file(__file__, globals()) File 
/Users/Jonathan/Downloads/google_appengine-2/dev_appserver.py, line 121, 
in run_file execfile(script_path, globals_) File 
/Users/Jonathan/Downloads/google_appengine-2/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver_main.py,
 
line 690, in module sys.exit(main(sys.argv)) File 
/Users/Jonathan/Downloads/google_appengine-2/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver_main.py,
 
line 578, in main root_path, {}, default_partition=default_partition) File 
/Users/Jonathan/Downloads/google_appengine-2/google/appengine/tools/dev_appserver.py,
 
line 3122, in LoadAppConfig raise AppConfigNotFoundError 
google.appengine.tools.dev_appserver.AppConfigNotFoundError

I have no clue what I'm doing wrong I've followed 
this:https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/tools/devserver to 
the letter.

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[google-appengine] Re: Cant run dev server

I meant to link to this 
tutorial 
https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/go/gettingstarted/helloworld

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[google-appengine] Re: Cant run dev server

Found the problem, stupid TextEdit was saving the files with .txt extension 
and then hiding the extensions

On Sunday, April 1, 2012 1:42:52 PM UTC+1, Jonathan Bailey wrote:

 I meant to link to this tutorial 
 https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/go/gettingstarted/helloworld

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[google-appengine] getting all entities of type from datastore

The example 
herehttps://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/go/gettingstarted/usingdatastoreshows
 how to fetch at most 10 items, but I would like to retrieve all the 
of items, in order to loop through them.

How do I go about this? Like how do I create an array (or slice as Go seems 
to call them) which has no set capacity?

Bearing in mind that it may have hundreds of entities at some point, how 
can do I this without loading them all into memory at once? Or do I not 
need to worry about that on GAE?

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[google-appengine] Setting up Go in eclipse for GAE

2012-03-31 Thread Jonathan B

I'm trying desperately to get working on an app I need to write in Go
rather than Java. However I have no idea where to start installing.
The tutorials on the various sites of Go, Goclipse and GAE are very
confusing. Some are for old versions. Others I simply don't understand
the wording.

Is there a simple to follow up to date tutorial on starting from
strath with Go and GAE anywhere on the web.

I'm beginning to think ripping my hair out would be more enjoyable.
(certainly using Xcode and visual studio express is infinitely easier
and simpler)

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[google-appengine] Re: Setting up Go in eclipse for GAE

2012-03-31 Thread Jonathan B

Yes I'm on osx. And which file are you talking about?

On Apr 1, 1:08 am, Wilson MacGyver wmacgy...@gmail.com wrote:
 I assume you are on osx. In my case, getting it to run consist of download 
 the file, unzip it, mkdir your new app directory and run dev app server 
 pointed to it.

 I haven't used any IDE doing it however

 On Mar 31, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Jonathan B jon.bailey...@gmail.com wrote:







  I'm trying desperately to get working on an app I need to write in Go
  rather than Java. However I have no idea where to start installing.
  The tutorials on the various sites of Go, Goclipse and GAE are very
  confusing. Some are for old versions. Others I simply don't understand
  the wording.

  Is there a simple to follow up to date tutorial on starting from
  strath with Go and GAE anywhere on the web.

  I'm beginning to think ripping my hair out would be more enjoyable.
  (certainly using Xcode and visual studio express is infinitely easier
  and simpler)

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Problem with mail quota

2012-03-16 Thread Jonathan Nativ

Hi Christina,
Billing enabled on 2012-03-08 21:25:20.
I guess it's too much to ask for a fair disclosure of the We recently made
a change ... prior to getting into this 'pay for nothing scheme'.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Christina Ilvento cilve...@google.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 We recently made a change that causes the 100 email/day quota to only be
 lifted once a charge has been successfully cleared. Did you recently enable
 billing, or has billing been enabled for more than one week?


 Thanks,
 Christina


 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Daniel danielkra...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm seeing the same problem! I have hit 100 emails and can't mail anymore
 even with a very generous billing quota per day.. billable email is not
 triggering.

 My app is sky-words-hrd



 On Wednesday, February 8, 2012 2:36:40 PM UTC-8, Ice13ill wrote:

 In SDK 1.6.2 is stated that:
  Mail Quota for App Engine apps that have signed up for billing
 will only be increased after the first payment for the app is
 processed. 

 In the documentation I found this:
 100 recipients until first charge cleared; 2000 recipients free and
 no maximum thereafter

 The problem is that my app has billing enabled for a very long time
 and although everything was ok until today (i also checked the billing
 history and emails that exceeded the 100 limit were billed
 correctly) , now my app has reached 100 mail quota and it cannot send
 any more emails...

 Does anyone else has this problem ?

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Problem with mail quota

2012-03-16 Thread Jonathan

Hi Christina,
Billing enabled on 2012-03-08 21:25:20.
I guess it's too much to ask for a fair disclosure of the We recently made 
a change ... prior to getting into this 'pay for nothing scheme'.


On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:53:47 PM UTC+2, Christina Ilvento wrote:

 Hi All,

 We recently made a change that causes the 100 email/day quota to only be 
 lifted once a charge has been successfully cleared. Did you recently enable 
 billing, or has billing been enabled for more than one week?


 Thanks,
 Christina

 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Daniel danielkra...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm seeing the same problem! I have hit 100 emails and can't mail anymore 
 even with a very generous billing quota per day.. billable email is not 
 triggering.  

 My app is sky-words-hrd



 On Wednesday, February 8, 2012 2:36:40 PM UTC-8, Ice13ill wrote:

 In SDK 1.6.2 is stated that: 
  Mail Quota for App Engine apps that have signed up for billing 
 will only be increased after the first payment for the app is 
 processed.  

 In the documentation I found this: 
 100 recipients until first charge cleared; 2000 recipients free and 
 no maximum thereafter 

 The problem is that my app has billing enabled for a very long time 
 and although everything was ok until today (i also checked the billing 
 history and emails that exceeded the 100 limit were billed 
 correctly) , now my app has reached 100 mail quota and it cannot send 
 any more emails... 

 Does anyone else has this problem ?

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[google-appengine] Re: Channel API between front and backend instances

2012-03-15 Thread Jonathan Harris

Any news on this potential fix?

On Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:56:22 UTC+1, Justin Haugh wrote:

 Not at the moment, but we're working on a fix for this, so that a channel 
 created by a frontend can be used by a backend, and vice-versa.  I can't 
 provide an exact release date at this point, but it likely will be in one 
 of the next few releases.

 Until then, the suggested method of handling this is to have either your 
 frontend or backend be responsible for Channel communication, and use 
 another mechanism for communication between FE and BE, such as urlfetch, 
 memcache, the datastore, or the task queue.

 Justin


On Thursday, 28 July 2011 19:56:22 UTC+1, Justin Haugh wrote:

 Not at the moment, but we're working on a fix for this, so that a channel 
 created by a frontend can be used by a backend, and vice-versa.  I can't 
 provide an exact release date at this point, but it likely will be in one 
 of the next few releases.

 Until then, the suggested method of handling this is to have either your 
 frontend or backend be responsible for Channel communication, and use 
 another mechanism for communication between FE and BE, such as urlfetch, 
 memcache, the datastore, or the task queue.

 Justin


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Re: [google-appengine] Re: paid user, email delivered, but can't be received

2012-03-13 Thread Jonathan

Thanks for asking but NOT at all.


On Monday, March 12, 2012 11:28:42 AM UTC+2, Paco Paco wrote:

 Jonathan, have you found a solution yet?

 On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Jonathan jonathan.na...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've exactly the same problem, after the first 100 recipients the 
 delivery is blocked. After 24hours there is a reset , and so on. 
 I have 10$/day budget but it does not help.
  

 On Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:11:38 AM UTC+2, Paco Paco wrote: 

 The first charge was cleared, and 5000 emails are definitely within 
 the quota, and I can see that on the dashboard. 
 The first 100 recipients had received my email, but after the first 
 100, nobody had received anything. 
 What am I supposed to do?

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On Monday, March 12, 2012 11:28:42 AM UTC+2, Paco Paco wrote:

 Jonathan, have you found a solution yet?

 On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Jonathan jonathan.na...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've exactly the same problem, after the first 100 recipients the 
 delivery is blocked. After 24hours there is a reset , and so on. 
 I have 10$/day budget but it does not help.
  

 On Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:11:38 AM UTC+2, Paco Paco wrote: 

 The first charge was cleared, and 5000 emails are definitely within 
 the quota, and I can see that on the dashboard. 
 The first 100 recipients had received my email, but after the first 
 100, nobody had received anything. 
 What am I supposed to do?

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On Monday, March 12, 2012 11:28:42 AM UTC+2, Paco Paco wrote:

 Jonathan, have you found a solution yet?

 On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Jonathan jonathan.na...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've exactly the same problem, after the first 100 recipients the 
 delivery is blocked. After 24hours there is a reset , and so on. 
 I have 10$/day budget but it does not help.
  

 On Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:11:38 AM UTC+2, Paco Paco wrote: 

 The first charge was cleared, and 5000 emails are definitely within 
 the quota, and I can see that on the dashboard. 
 The first 100 recipients had received my email, but after the first 
 100, nobody had received anything. 
 What am I supposed to do?

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[google-appengine] Re: paid user, email delivered, but can't be received

I've exactly the same problem, after the first 100 recipients the delivery 
is blocked. After 24hours there is a reset , and so on.
I have 10$/day budget but it does not help.


On Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:11:38 AM UTC+2, Paco Paco wrote:

 The first charge was cleared, and 5000 emails are definitely within 
 the quota, and I can see that on the dashboard. 
 The first 100 recipients had received my email, but after the first 
 100, nobody had received anything. 
 What am I supposed to do?

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[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine Down?

I've exactly the same problem, after the first 100 recipients the mail 
delivery is blocked. After 24hours there is a reset , and so on.
I have 10$/day budget but it does not help.
app-id: or-point


On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:13:13 PM UTC+2, Holly Orr wrote:

 We are paying for the service, and should not have exceeded our limit.  It 
 keeps giving us an error stating we have possibly exceeded limit.  Also, it 
 has been exceptionally slow for the last 2 hours.


On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:13:13 PM UTC+2, Holly Orr wrote:

 We are paying for the service, and should not have exceeded our limit.  It 
 keeps giving us an error stating we have possibly exceeded limit.  Also, it 
 has been exceptionally slow for the last 2 hours.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Problem with mail quota

I've exactly the same problem, after the first 100 recipients the delivery 
is blocked. After 24hours there is a reset , and so on.
I have 10$/day budget but it does not help.

app-id: or-point



On Friday, February 10, 2012 12:22:56 AM UTC+2, Ikai Lan wrote:

 We're running a batch job right now to fix the issue. Stay tuned.

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 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Greg g.fawc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a large (paid) quota for email, and got a quota exception two
 hours ago. I'm guessing there was a glitch in the mail quota about
 that time.

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Re: [google-appengine] Issue after HRD migration: 100 email quota until first charge cleared

Hi Christina
I've a similar problem, after the first 100 recipients the delivery is
blocked. After 24hours there is a reset , and so on.
I have 10$/day budget but it does not help.

app-id: or-point

On Monday, March 5, 2012 10:56:52 PM UTC+2, Christina Ilvento wrote:

Hi Anders,

Would you please enter your M/S and HRD app-ids in the migration quota
bump request form at
https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dENESzEwNzJiZEdpQkRzTl9RNElVWUE6MQ#gid=0

Thanks,
Christina

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Anders anders.ny...@gmail.com wrote:

I did a migration of an old application to the high replication
datastore over the weekend. Everything looked fine at first but now I
am having an issue with the email quota.

Since the email quota is 100 emails before the first charge is cleared
and I just enabled billing on my new application I have to wait until
the end of the week (when the first charge is made) before I am able
to send out emails. Isn't there some way to be charged directly and
not wait for the end of the period?

Did anyone ran into the same issue and found a solution? I am sending
some thousand emails a day to customers so this was a very unfortunate
consequence of the migration.

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Re: [google-appengine] Mail quota Problem