Re: [H] Tracking what program is using bandwidth
You can use the old TDIMON from sysinternals which would tie applications to network activity but I don’t think it tracks bandwidth. Maybe you can use that to verify its talking home then use another bandwidth tool to monitor the ports its communicating over. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:15 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Tracking what program is using bandwidth Does anyone know of a good program that will display all programs that are currently using a network interface and track how much bandwidth they use? I'm trying to see if a program I'm running is feeding data back home continously like I think it is. T To report this as spam, please forward to s...@websense.com. Thank you. Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] AV disabling question
It's probably because there is a TDI or NDIS driver installed as a shim between the network driver and the OS being used to filter traffic. Turning the service off probably just stops the driver from forwarding traffic. It's been a while since I worked on drivers but there should be some manual ways to get around this depending on how much the AV is watching for modifications. One easy thing you could try is stop the services like you did then go to device manager then in the view menu select show hidden devices. There should be a new list of non-plug and play drivers. You can try to figure out which ones are linked to the AV by name then confirm it by opening up the driver properties then click on the drivers tab and the driver details button. Once you have confirmed it you can stop the driver. See if that works. If not then you might need to look at some of the tools published by the driver development community that help in disabling and unloading drivers. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 1:13 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] AV disabling question When a computer comes into the shop, I like to disable the current AV so as to speed up the scans and prevent two AVs conflicting. I've been disabling the AV's services, but I've found that when I do that with NIS (surprise, suprise, it's a piece of crap) then it shuts down access to the internet because it's firewall is off. Then I end up having to turn the service back on (no small feat because the PoS tries to prevent changes to it's service settings even though it's turned off.) Does anyone know of a better way to disable AVs (especially NIS) without uninstalling so that I can still access the internet? T To report this as spam, please forward to s...@websense.com. Thank you. Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] 0 Day Viruses Was: Re: Vipre Antivirus
Rogue AV causes lots of problems for AV scanners. We see around 6-25% detection of Rogue AV by the AV scanners on VirusTotal here is a link to some related blog posts http://community.websense.com/blogs/securitylabs/archive/category/1771.aspx . Here are some individual reports on VirusTotal that are referenced in some of the blogs http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/fabca4efdaf5c89d36e153637fbe92bc130f62812d6261833b073a23240260c8-1267321093 http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/6c835981a6fd2f866f6200dfd5384240fab14149ddc8c162721305c11533d984-1268277978 http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/7f740567ef431e91f898358c33df60b0f6cb709ecb3fdc88deaf07026e03b7fe-1273234735 But looks like a few of the scanners did better than the others from these 3 reports. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:30 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] 0 Day Viruses Was: Re: Vipre Antivirus Anyone have any luck with their antivirus blocking the various Antivirus 2010/Security Essentials 2010 variants as they are released? We're constantly seeing those installed on user's PC's with up to date antiviruses (Nordon, Avast, AVG, McAfee, Avira, etc). What will actually catch this thing? Best I have found is McAfee with very very locked down rulesets (Block files from being run from temp folders, etc) Christopher Fisk To report this as spam, please forward to s...@websense.com. Thank you. Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Google chrome ?
I use both Chrome and Firefox myself. Chrome is definitely targeted less in attacks and overall has not had many issues. It has a nice feature with incognito mode which should be used for almost all browsing unless you are going to gmail, facebook, etc. But if you are googling stuff and clicking links and have no idea where you may be going then incognito is a nice feature to be using. I would say at this point in time Chrome is the safest browser to be using because of the number of attacks targeting it as well as the number of security holes that have been found are low. Also with the silent updates it's very hard to be running an out of date version of it which is the biggest issue with exploits. Also chrome definitely has the speed and footprint advantage from my personal experience. Closing tabs and having the processes go away and release memory is a lot nicer than firefox's behavior. Tom's hardware did a nice comparison of browsers http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firefox-chrome-opera,2558.html Limewire is very bad for security reasons just because its so easy to download something like a song and in fact it’s a Trojan. Not sure if the software itself is insecure but with torrents these days I see no need for limewire. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:29 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Google chrome ? At 03:16 PM 13/05/2010, FORC5 wrote: Son put Google chrome in his system. pretty peppy but how secure is it ? Updated his security sw just in case. Also installed Limewire. I have always been leery of this sharing stuff and too old to change. seen way too many problems over the years ( made lot of $$$ because of it) but I have been thinking lately operator error more then sw error. If you're putting Limewire on a machine, then I wouldn't worry about how secure the browser is. From my reading Chrome is pretty secure, but a lot of that is due to security through obscurity, rather than secure code. It wasn't hacked at Pwn2Own, but from the interviews I read, that was just because the hackers knew more about Safari, IE, and Firefox. T To report this as spam, please forward to s...@websense.com. Thank you. Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] cable upgrades
Ahh so that’s how it works. I always thought it worked by caching certain content on their cache boxes and serving the cached content at faster speeds than if you were to download it over the normal non cached version. I should have known better. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:40 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] cable upgrades Keep in mind that Cox has PowerBoost. It's a temporary increase in speed for the first few seconds/MB of a stream. It's mostly BS to make speed tests look good without providing any real material increase. Comcast developed the technology, and everybody else licenses it--including Cox and Time Warner Cable. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 3:12 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] cable upgrades I have a COX cable Premium account and I pay though the nose for it. Their basic entry level account is 19 bucks a month and I pay 56 for 10 down and 2 up. But this week they upgraded my area to doc3. Surprisingly they will be able to update the firmware in my Motorola Surfboard doc2 modem without me doing anything. Before they did that they called me to come out and check my lines to make sure everything was in order and because their tests indicated my modem was out of range... which turned out to be caused by a filter on my line. They tell me after the upgrade they will be able to deliver up to 45 down.The timing was fortuitous because I have a new Plasma TV on the way . They cable guy was great, he checked all my fittings, checked the drop line and replaced all the connectors gave me new splitters and even made a special cable for me for my plasma which isn't hear yet. But the real thrill was doing speed tests. Before he came this morning I did a speed test, the one Cox tech uses, and I got 10.9 down and 4 up which is better then what I am paying for. But after he did the work and left, I ran it again. www.winterlight.org/speed.jpg Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Suggested HTPC Setup
Do you have to buy a cablecard yourself? Here in San Diego TimeWarner apparently will lease it for $2.50 a month which I find kind of hard to believe its so cheap. Anyone have experience with these cablecards? I hope it doesn’t require some DRM software to take over my machine. I will be setting everything up on a Linux system so I wonder if that will be a problem. Also what interface do these cards plug into? Do I need some type of adapter or is there PCI-x slots or similar? Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Alex Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:11 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Suggested HTPC Setup One minor point I'd like to make: Confirm that you can receive a strong TV signal for the reception mode you are going to use. (i.e. OTA/Sat/Cable). I bought a an ATI TV card, hooked it up to an antenna only to find my OTA reception is barely acceptable where I live (for the dozen or so channels that are available)... and so my HTPC lacks PVR/Live capability, unless I choose to spring for cablecard. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:51 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Suggested HTPC Setup Hey Everyone, I am looking into putting together a HTPC system together and I am at the stage of planning it out. I have been looking stuff up online and reading docs and I think I have an idea of how the software should be setup. My basic requirements are: - Nice interface - Easy access to online content - Ability to remotely stream my content (slingbox'ish) - DVR replacement Nice to have features: - Notification of new online content - Remote streaming optimized for mobile (nokia n900) and laptops - Ability to record and locally store online content So for the software I was thinking of using: - xbmc as the frontend for everything - mythtv as the backend pvr However I am not sure I have found a good solution for doing the remote viewing of the content especially have not found anything that can optimize the remote streaming. For the hardware I was basically thinking of putting together a smaller quieter system but not sure if everything will fit in those smaller cases. Also it would be nice to have a remote so probably something that can accommodate that will be nice. Also I am not sure about best video card for the job as well as what tv tuner card I should get. I was thinking of setting the system up with either usb flash drive or ssd (if its cost effective) for booting and having another larger slower drive to store the content on. So I would love to hear from people here who have suggestions on software/hardware/configurations to help accomplish this. ALI MESDAQ Sr. Security Researcher WEBSENSE, INC. ph: +1.858.320.9466 fax: +1.858.784.4466 www.websense.com Websense TRITON™ For Essential Information Protection™ Web Security | Data Security | Email Security Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
[H] Suggested HTPC Setup
Hey Everyone, I am looking into putting together a HTPC system together and I am at the stage of planning it out. I have been looking stuff up online and reading docs and I think I have an idea of how the software should be setup. My basic requirements are: - Nice interface - Easy access to online content - Ability to remotely stream my content (slingbox'ish) - DVR replacement Nice to have features: - Notification of new online content - Remote streaming optimized for mobile (nokia n900) and laptops - Ability to record and locally store online content So for the software I was thinking of using: - xbmc as the frontend for everything - mythtv as the backend pvr However I am not sure I have found a good solution for doing the remote viewing of the content especially have not found anything that can optimize the remote streaming. For the hardware I was basically thinking of putting together a smaller quieter system but not sure if everything will fit in those smaller cases. Also it would be nice to have a remote so probably something that can accommodate that will be nice. Also I am not sure about best video card for the job as well as what tv tuner card I should get. I was thinking of setting the system up with either usb flash drive or ssd (if its cost effective) for booting and having another larger slower drive to store the content on. So I would love to hear from people here who have suggestions on software/hardware/configurations to help accomplish this. ALI MESDAQ Sr. Security Researcher WEBSENSE, INC. ph: +1.858.320.9466 fax: +1.858.784.4466 www.websense.com Websense TRITON™ For Essential Information Protection™ Web Security | Data Security | Email Security Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] bootable flash and DVDs
Something like a LiveCD? Like the one that comes default with the Ubuntu installation CD? Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 1:44 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] bootable flash and DVDs Wednesday, November 04, 2009 01:39:11 PST One thing I have yet to do is create some kind of windows bootable media that I can boot into when I need to repair a windows installation, or run a Acronis restore, delete a stubborn file when it refuses to delete on a running windows, or a virus scan on a non running windows. Something similar to booting from a dual boot windows PC... only not from my hard drive and able to use it with any PC. Is there an easy way to create such a thing, and how do I go about it? thanks Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
[H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
Has anyone seen the N9000 phone? I just read some reviews, specs, developer docs, and saw some videos on this phone and it seems amazing! Anyone have access to this phone or know of anyone with one? Seems like it's not released yet but usually phones find their way to the market early. In case you haven’t seen the phone here are some links http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/hands-on-nokia-n900-review-631040 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE Quick highlights for me personally are - Debian based linux OS - Updates to everything over the air - Killer UI - Full flash support in a full Mozilla based browser - Very nice hardware specs in every facet i.e. camera, storage, processor, screen, graphics hardware accelerator, etc - Real multi tasking OS and interface - Get root shell on the device All in all this device seems to be created as a mobile computer because of Maemo's roots as a tablet PC OS. So the phone is just treated as a platform and hardware to run the OS. For example you can just not use the phone at all and make all your calls via Skype over Wifi or 3g connectivity. Looks like finally a no strings attached phone. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
That’s not a limitation of this nokia. Anyone could write a SIP application in fact someone wrote something for Google voice already http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/dialcentral/ Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin Jr. Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? I like Nokia and have an N81. What I don't like is that Nokia has been pressured by mobile carriers to remove the built-in SIP support on all the newer models. When I walk in at home or at work my N81 auto sychs up with my asterisk server via wireless, and I can make totally free unlimited calls using google voice anywhere in the continental U.S. The phone becomes an extension to the system whenever internet connectivity is available. We got off monthly mobile plan to pay-per-minutes since we can still use the nokia phones through WiFi. Now I pay about $8 a month for my cellular service :) lopaka --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: From: Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com Subject: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:03 AM Has anyone seen the N9000 phone? I just read some reviews, specs, developer docs, and saw some videos on this phone and it seems amazing! Anyone have access to this phone or know of anyone with one? Seems like it's not released yet but usually phones find their way to the market early. In case you haven’t seen the phone here are some links http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/hands-on-nokia-n900-review-631040 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE Quick highlights for me personally are - Debian based linux OS - Updates to everything over the air - Killer UI - Full flash support in a full Mozilla based browser - Very nice hardware specs in every facet i.e. camera, storage, processor, screen, graphics hardware accelerator, etc - Real multi tasking OS and interface - Get root shell on the device All in all this device seems to be created as a mobile computer because of Maemo's roots as a tablet PC OS. So the phone is just treated as a platform and hardware to run the OS. For example you can just not use the phone at all and make all your calls via Skype over Wifi or 3g connectivity. Looks like finally a no strings attached phone. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
Precisely the reason why I haven’t gotten an iphone. I hate the limitations and the hoops you have to jump through to do some basic things. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:25 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? Unless your device isn't allowed to have such pieces of software, like the iPhone. Which is why my iPhone is *cough* modified *cough*. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: That’s not a limitation of this nokia. Anyone could write a SIP application in fact someone wrote something for Google voice already http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/dialcentral/ Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin Jr. Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? I like Nokia and have an N81. What I don't like is that Nokia has been pressured by mobile carriers to remove the built-in SIP support on all the newer models. When I walk in at home or at work my N81 auto sychs up with my asterisk server via wireless, and I can make totally free unlimited calls using google voice anywhere in the continental U.S. The phone becomes an extension to the system whenever internet connectivity is available. We got off monthly mobile plan to pay-per-minutes since we can still use the nokia phones through WiFi. Now I pay about $8 a month for my cellular service :) lopaka --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: From: Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com Subject: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:03 AM Has anyone seen the N9000 phone? I just read some reviews, specs, developer docs, and saw some videos on this phone and it seems amazing! Anyone have access to this phone or know of anyone with one? Seems like it's not released yet but usually phones find their way to the market early. In case you haven’t seen the phone here are some links http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/hands-on-nokia-n900-review-631040 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE Quick highlights for me personally are - Debian based linux OS - Updates to everything over the air - Killer UI - Full flash support in a full Mozilla based browser - Very nice hardware specs in every facet i.e. camera, storage, processor, screen, graphics hardware accelerator, etc - Real multi tasking OS and interface - Get root shell on the device All in all this device seems to be created as a mobile computer because of Maemo's roots as a tablet PC OS. So the phone is just treated as a platform and hardware to run the OS. For example you can just not use the phone at all and make all your calls via Skype over Wifi or 3g connectivity. Looks like finally a no strings attached phone. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
Yeah I agree with you on that and that’s why I haven’t really upgraded my phone for so long. Now that the iphone has set such a high standard I require the phone to be as user friendly as the iphone and hardware as good. My basic requirements are - UI as good as iphone - hardware as good or better than iphone - no limitations or little limitations on what I can do on the phone If iphone was a little more open in that regard there would be no phone that can compare. ATT has kinda been screwed by the iphone because users are demanding bandwidth but not willing to pay for it. So its been kind of a double edged sword for them. But lets make a clear distinction between ATT mandated controls and Apple controls. Apple wants to control your life and I just want a phone that can do a bunch of things. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:48 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? Well, that's a bit over the top. As much as I don't like it, it's not unreasonable for ATT to not allow an app that destroys its business model on a device that it controls. I still haven't seen a single phone out there with an interface, software, and UI that can compare to the iPhone. So I'm willing to put up with a few minor issues in exchange for that. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: Precisely the reason why I haven’t gotten an iphone. I hate the limitations and the hoops you have to jump through to do some basic things. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:25 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? Unless your device isn't allowed to have such pieces of software, like the iPhone. Which is why my iPhone is *cough* modified *cough*. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: That’s not a limitation of this nokia. Anyone could write a SIP application in fact someone wrote something for Google voice already http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/dialcentral/ Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin Jr. Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? I like Nokia and have an N81. What I don't like is that Nokia has been pressured by mobile carriers to remove the built-in SIP support on all the newer models. When I walk in at home or at work my N81 auto sychs up with my asterisk server via wireless, and I can make totally free unlimited calls using google voice anywhere in the continental U.S. The phone becomes an extension to the system whenever internet connectivity is available. We got off monthly mobile plan to pay-per-minutes since we can still use the nokia phones through WiFi. Now I pay about $8 a month for my cellular service :) lopaka --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: From: Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com Subject: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:03 AM Has anyone seen the N9000 phone? I just read some reviews, specs, developer docs, and saw some videos on this phone and it seems amazing! Anyone have access to this phone or know of anyone with one? Seems like it's not released yet but usually phones find their way to the market early. In case you haven’t seen the phone here are some links http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/hands-on-nokia-n900-review-631040
Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
I'm not so convinced of that. The openness google refers to when talking about android is more about the web standards openness not really the framework openness. But the hardware support for android is definitely picking up and so are the apps. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:31 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? I think Android has the potential to be the phone/UI we want, but it's going to be a few years of iterations to get there. - Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation On 2009-09-16, at 5:21 PM, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: Yeah I agree with you on that and that’s why I haven’t really upgraded my phone for so long. Now that the iphone has set such a hi gh standard I require the phone to be as user friendly as the iphone and hardware as good. My basic requirements are - UI as good as iphone - hardware as good or better than iphone - no limitations or little limitations on what I can do on the phone If iphone was a little more open in that regard there would be no phone that can compare. ATT has kinda been screwed by the iphone because users are demanding bandwidth but not willing to pay for it. So its been kind of a double edged sword for them. But lets make a clear distinction between ATT mandated controls and Apple controls. Apple wants to control your life and I just want a phone that can do a bunch of things. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:48 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? Well, that's a bit over the top. As much as I don't like it, it's not unreasonable for ATT to not allow an app that destroys its business model on a device that it controls. I still haven't seen a single phone out there with an interface, software, and UI that can compare to the iPhone. So I'm willing to put up with a few minor issues in exchange for that. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: Precisely the reason why I haven’t gotten an iphone. I hate the li mitations and the hoops you have to jump through to do some basic things. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:25 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? Unless your device isn't allowed to have such pieces of software, like the iPhone. Which is why my iPhone is *cough* modified *cough*. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: That’s not a limitation of this nokia. Anyone could write a SIP application in fact someone wrote something for Google voice already http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/dialcentral/ Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin Jr. Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? I like Nokia and have an N81. What I don't like is that Nokia has been pressured by mobile carriers to remove the built-in SIP support on all the newer models. When I walk in at home or at work my N81 auto sychs up with my asterisk server via wireless, and I
Re: [H] FireFox confusion
I am using it. As far as I can tell its working. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:12 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] FireFox confusion Does anyone know if X-marks works with the new Firefox? Jamie Furtner wrote: IE Tab works fine with Firefox 3.5.[01] - I use it to avoid having to pull up IE. Jamie swzaske wrote: Down with IE is right but I still have to use it far too often because a web site fails to render properly in Firefox. Wish I could get rid of IE entirely. Should try IE Tab and see if it works with 3.5.1. DSinc wrote: All, The deed is done! All my units now use FireFox v3.5.1. Interestingly, I observe that FF seems to hide some user data in its' own sequestered space. Even though I fully de-installed v3.0.12 first; when v3.5.1 did install next, it found all my user data and just trucked on to completion! I can suppose this data was in the magic /profile directory. No need to comprehend the 'magic' at this time. Very glad it is there and working! I am favorably impressed with this behavior. Just another nail in IE's coffin!!! LOL! Duncan Thane Sherrington wrote: At 12:30 PM 22/07/2009, DSinc wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10292587-83.html So I stumble across the above cnet article about FireFox. Have all my machines up to v3.0.12 ATM, but I detect a strong push to update again to v3.5.1. :) Does anyone on the List use the new v3.5.1? Can I still use/add NoScript and CS-Lite to this new version? I'm on 3.5.1 and noscript with no problems. Definitely upgrade. T __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4267 (20090722) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS
Gotta disagree with both you guys on that one. Cloud computing definitely has major advantages over local for various things. Not all things but for example storage. I rather have a google doc hosted by google that will never get lost to a harddrive crash than a locally stored doc. I can also see big promise in things like http://www.onlive.com/ for gaming. Cloud can't replace everything but it can replace a few things really well. I personally wouldn’t mind having a lightweight computer that boots off a flash image in 2 seconds and connects to the web for accessing my files and basic functionality. Something I never have to worry about for maintenance. That would be the ultimate web surfing platform. Give one of those computers to your family and never have to worry about fixing it ever! Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 09:55 AM 08/07/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: Cloud computing is bogus. The day when everyone's apps and data are on machines that aren't local is the day the Internet becomes third world. My broadband connection failed again yesterday for a couple hours during the Michael Jackson memorial blitz. How can so many in the industry be pushing this nonsense is beyond me. However, competing against Microsoft is a good idea as it may bring down their ridiculous prices. Anybody pee od'd that Vista owners don't get a free upgrade to 7? I'm not a big fan of cloud computing either (but interestingly enough, am working on a cloud-based project, so go figure.) I don't see net connections going down very often, but when they do, it could be a big hit to a business. Seems like a single point of failure issue to me, but it is taking off. T Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS
It's actually even better for business than it is for home users. Salesforece.com perfect example of that. Have your whole CRM there for secure access anywhere, your data is safe, reports are better, advantages go on. Same with things like hosted Email Security which the company I work for does let the spam filtering happen in the cloud and save 80% of the bandwidth you use on email by having that 80% of your email which is spam removed before it gets to your pipe. Also cloud computing is awesome for scaling and growing as can be seen by amazon web services which are great cloud based services that are allowing a lot of business to run entirely on amazon services. If you’re a corporation and you can scale from 1 virtual server to 2000 in 5 minutes you have advantages in business. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:18 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 01:51 PM 08/07/2009, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Gotta disagree with both you guys on that one. Cloud computing definitely has major advantages over local for various things. Not all things but for example storage. I rather have a google doc hosted by google that will never get lost to a harddrive crash than a locally stored doc. I can also see big promise in things like http://www.onlive.com/ for gaming. Cloud can't replace everything but it can replace a few things really well. I personally wouldn't mind having a lightweight computer that boots off a flash image in 2 seconds and connects to the web for accessing my files and basic functionality. Something I never have to worry about for maintenance. That would be the ultimate web surfing platform. Give one of those computers to your family and never have to worry about fixing it ever! For the vast majority of people, a cloud based PC makes sense - they are only surfing and emailing anyway, so if their internet connection is down, they are dead in the water anyway. But I'm thinking more for business applications. T Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS
If you have super sensitive data it's probably a lot harder to get to it in the cloud than it is from your pc. I trust a team of people with lots of money and resources protecting my data more than I trust myself. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:19 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 01:58 PM 08/07/2009, Bryan Seitz wrote: I prefer to host my own stuff that way nobody is farming it for information, demographics, etc... I have things called backups and raid! I can see huge issues with security in the cloud unless you are 100% sure you can encrypt with no back door. T Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS
If you pay for a solution you wouldn’t have your information farmed but if you use a free service than yeah its gonna happen. But if you think about it from a business perspective we get a good deal. Give me 7.3 gigs of email space with gmail for free and if they want to analyze that and serve me ads that I will never click that’s fine with me as long as they don't start controlling my content or changing it or the ultimate betrayal sharing it in its complete form. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:58 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS I prefer to host my own stuff that way nobody is farming it for information, demographics, etc... I have things called backups and raid! On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:54:53PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote: I'm also a huge fan of cloud (done properly). I live in my gmail, gdocs, and remember the milk accounts and rely on Live Mesh for syncing between my home PC and laptop when traveling. The key that makes all the google stuff work for me is Google Gears. It does a pretty fantastic job of syncing and allowing offline access to my gmail. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: Gotta disagree with both you guys on that one. Cloud computing definitely has major advantages over local for various things. Not all things but for example storage. I rather have a google doc hosted by google that will never get lost to a harddrive crash than a locally stored doc. I can also see big promise in things like http://www.onlive.com/ for gaming. Cloud can't replace everything but it can replace a few things really well. I personally wouldn?t mind having a lightweight computer that boots off a flash image in 2 seconds and connects to the web for accessing my files and basic functionality. Something I never have to worry about for maintenance. That would be the ultimate web surfing platform. Give one of those computers to your family and never have to worry about fixing it ever! Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:07 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 09:55 AM 08/07/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: Cloud computing is bogus. The day when everyone's apps and data are on machines that aren't local is the day the Internet becomes third world. My broadband connection failed again yesterday for a couple hours during the Michael Jackson memorial blitz. How can so many in the industry be pushing this nonsense is beyond me. However, competing against Microsoft is a good idea as it may bring down their ridiculous prices. Anybody pee od'd that Vista owners don't get a free upgrade to 7? I'm not a big fan of cloud computing either (but interestingly enough, am working on a cloud-based project, so go figure.) I don't see net connections going down very often, but when they do, it could be a big hit to a business. Seems like a single point of failure issue to me, but it is taking off. T Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS
I really like the technology and approach of onlive. Render everything server side and stream to client. Even their micro console is awesome and a perfect example of cloud implementation. Use the cloud for what its good for and leave the stuff on the client that needs to be there. But I definitely think we are at least 10-15 years away from not NEEDING hardcore pc's because it will take a while until apps are written to be cloud based that are useful. The google docs and Microsoft office launches are a start, online game with onlive is another big step, also like the quickboosk online version for small business, but it will be a while till things like audio/video, application development apps, graphic/publishing software, and a bunch of other software make usable useful cloud version. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:21 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: Google OS At 02:01 PM 08/07/2009, Brian Weeden wrote: I do all that as well - but a backup solution that doesn't have some form of offsite backup is not really a good solution. Besides, when you are traveling and swapping between machines how do you keep everything synced together and have the ability to do work when there is no net connection? I moved from two desktops to a single laptop to avoid the synching issues, but I do store a lot of stuff online to access anywhere. I think cloud computing may be very interesting in the next few years, but I'm not convinced that we are moving back to the dumb (or nearly dumb) terminal days either. If we do, that'll be a very interesting change in the economy. T Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Sandboxie
Looks like a home version of the Green Boarder software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenBorder which Google acquired. If it does what it says it can do it would be an awesome piece of software to run as a last line of defense. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad Zulfiqar Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:59 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Sandboxie Has anyone tried this software? The concept looks good. http://www.sandboxie.com/ -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Sandboxie
Well Google implemented (in Chrome) some of the functionality in what it calls Incognito Mode where you can browse whatever sites you want and all traces of activity are removed when you close your browser window. So cookies, temp files, browsing history, etc. I have been using chrome pretty much as my main browser and using incognito mode anytime I browse around on the net. The green boarder site had some nice explanations of what exactly their software does but looks like all the content is down. The best way I think you can think of the virtualization stuff is imagine the virtualization software hooks parts of your system things like file creation, registry reading, registry writing, etc. Now when a software lets say IE tries to save file.exe the virtualization software just captures that attempt redirects it to some temporary location but IE has no idea this happened behind the scenes. Most of those software are doing either userland hooking or kernel level hooking mixed in with drivers. It’s a very similar concept to rootkits. Eset is pretty good as far as AV goes. But from what I see on a daily basis putting trust in AV no matter which one is not a smart move. I think your on the right track with your approach of moderate browsing habits and layered security. Use chrome since it has the fewest security issues and targeted the least, use incognito mode, use another virtualization layer if desired. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:34 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Sandboxie Ali, I have had a copy(s) of Green Border for years. Never tried it. I grapple badly with all of the virtualization tech. I think I sorta get it, but am still skittish of it. Feel safer behind my ESET solution...and moderate browsing habits :) Sorry to see that Google gobbled it up. Will this consolidation ever cease? Best, Duncan Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Looks like a home version of the Green Boarder software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GreenBorder which Google acquired. If it does what it says it can do it would be an awesome piece of software to run as a last line of defense. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Naushad Zulfiqar Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:59 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Sandboxie Has anyone tried this software? The concept looks good. http://www.sandboxie.com/ Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
[H] OSX on PC Hardware
Anyone on the list done anything with running OSX on off the shelf PC Hardware? http://wiki.osx86project.org/ If so what's performance like? Is it worth it to try to build a badass OSX box or is it just worth it to buy a Mac? Looking to do some audio work. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] OSX on PC Hardware
Ok I am jealous! So even with that configuration you still feel that a mac pro can beat it performance wise? I am wondering if there is a cutoff where the PC hardware beats the mac for performance and is still cheaper to the point where it's worth the extra hassle to setup a pc mac instead of buying a real mac. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of James Boswell Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:26 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OSX on PC Hardware I'm running OSX 10.5.7 on :- Asus P5K-E/Wifi-AP Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 3.78Ghz 8GB (4x2GB) OCZ DDR2-800 @ 891Mhz HIS Radeon 4890 1GB 2x 500GB WD HDD's (1x scratch, 1x Time Machine) 1x 500GB Seagate HDD (presently OSX boot drive) 1x 750GB Samsung HDD (Vista) Lg Super Multi-Blu + Samsung DVDRW It's a BOOT-132/Chameleon install, so the OSX install itself is native and the hacks are all applied by the bootloader (so software update works flawlessly, even the 10.5.6 10.5.7 update) It hauls ass, feels as quick as any real Mac, until you hit it with something that can really make a Mac Pro stretch its legs (as I've only got 4 cores), even then the 4890 pulls its weight for things like Aperture and Final Cut filters. I've also put OSX on an i7 rig for a friend, and that thing... is simply WOW, I suspect there are very few moments where it won't blow the sidepanel off a full blooded nehelem Mac Pro Might be something to do with this though... https://photos-4.getdropbox.com/i/l/1F7CeoKfpTt7PlM9OlXEk0ZuR-YotULw4_mL1l2ZC3w #12 - Partial assembled rig - https://photos-1.getdropbox.com/i/l/lUURdDq1OyRc2zlmtboM6ia1luoMhmEdUZXKelcTzCk #5 That Gigabyte GA-X58-UD5 is a REALLY REALLY good board for hackintoshing, there's even a script that'll completely set up the OS boot-132 style on the thing. On 1 Jul 2009, at 18:36, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Anyone on the list done anything with running OSX on off the shelf PC Hardware? http://wiki.osx86project.org/ If so what's performance like? Is it worth it to try to build a badass OSX box or is it just worth it to buy a Mac? Looking to do some audio work. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software?
XBMC actually really looks like a good platform because the base features are very good and so is the UI. Then you can pretty easily skin it and add new functionality of varying degrees. Its designed to be friendly to various input methods like remote control, panel control, etc. I am thinking about creating my own box around this platform to test it out. But so far it’s the most robust and feature rich platform I have seen. If you do end up going this way keep us updated and I will do the same. What does everyone think of that nvidia motherboard as a hardware platform for a linux+xbmc box? Are those nvidia motherboards pretty heavy duty? I know xbmc kinda has high hardware requirements. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:31 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software? I'll check it out. When I was dealing with GBPVR, the most frustrating thing was that they did not define their own acronymns. I don't mind digging in and learning how to use an open source program, but a least make some information available, don't make me have to search the web for the explanation of every single setting. Steve On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Mesdaq, Ali ames...@websense.com wrote: Not sure if your looking for something like this but XBMC (http://xbmc.org/) seems to be the best software on the market from what I hear and its open source and free and cross platform. Rare that a open source project is the best but it seems like it is. Boxee.tv is completely based on XBMC source and they are getting a lot of attention lately. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software? What's vmc? I was going by the recomendations in this thread, I don't think that came up. Meedio was also recommended but I pretty much stopped when I got something that actually worked. Steve On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:02 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: So, if I can ask... What's wrong with vmc? --Original Message-- From: Bobby Heid Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Jan 4, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software? It is about $100 retail. Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:44 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software? Beyond TV: Installed easily. Virtually no setup. Uses Hauppauge Remote. Image quality is fine. Uh, huh? But where's the problems Beyond TV isn't cheap though is it? Working for about a day now with no issues. I think you can guess my recommendation.;-) Steve Sent via BlackBerry Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software?
Not sure if your looking for something like this but XBMC (http://xbmc.org/) seems to be the best software on the market from what I hear and its open source and free and cross platform. Rare that a open source project is the best but it seems like it is. Boxee.tv is completely based on XBMC source and they are getting a lot of attention lately. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tomporowski Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:00 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software? What's vmc? I was going by the recomendations in this thread, I don't think that came up. Meedio was also recommended but I pretty much stopped when I got something that actually worked. Steve On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:02 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: So, if I can ask... What's wrong with vmc? --Original Message-- From: Bobby Heid Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Jan 4, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software? It is about $100 retail. Bobby -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 1:44 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] HTPC - Which Software? Beyond TV: Installed easily. Virtually no setup. Uses Hauppauge Remote. Image quality is fine. Uh, huh? But where's the problems Beyond TV isn't cheap though is it? Working for about a day now with no issues. I think you can guess my recommendation.;-) Steve Sent via BlackBerry Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Trojan??
That very well may be the Trojan redirecting all your DNS requests to its own dns server but the server might not be up or it might be redirecting you to an IP of its own and that IP could be down. Trojans messing with DNS are especially dangerous because even if you type www.wellsfargo.com you could be going to a phishing site. Here is a recent blog we wrote about a scam that happened to a friend of one of our researchers http://securitylabs.websense.com/content/Blogs/3184.aspx Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Franc Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:04 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Trojan?? This am when I started up a message came on the screen from AVG. AVG finds you have a trojan. Do you want to remove it forcefully? I clicked yes and the message reappeared. I could not get rid of it. I restarted the computer and the message was gone. Now when I start Firefox I get a message it is taking to long no matter what URL I try to get. Is that the trojan working? What should I do now? -- Sam Franc On the Oregon Coast I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be.-Einstein Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Trojan??
Try scanning those online at www.virustotal.com . Scanning against all those AV's gives what I call decent detection. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Franc Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:13 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Trojan?? Brian, I have been running an AVG scan and it has found several places for the Trojan Horse Agent_r.CX in Zone Alarm setup files on my desktop. Zls setup_70_484_000 70_337_000 70_483_000 70_462_000 If I put those files in recycle bin and empty it will that get rid of them? Sam Brian Weeden wrote: Could be a few different things going on. Might have been a false positive and you might have killed something necessary for your internet connection to work. But it might have also been a real trojan. Sometimes they insert themselves pretty deeply in system processes and removing them breaks the links that allows things like the network stack to work. Try rebooting, see if that helps. Also try safe mode. But don't get your hopes up. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sam Franc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This am when I started up a message came on the screen from AVG. AVG finds you have a trojan. Do you want to remove it forcefully? I clicked yes and the message reappeared. I could not get rid of it. I restarted the computer and the message was gone. Now when I start Firefox I get a message it is taking to long no matter what URL I try to get. Is that the trojan working? What should I do now? -- Sam Franc On the Oregon Coast I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be.-Einstein No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1723 - Release Date: 10/13/2008 6:42 PM -- Sam Franc On the Oregon Coast I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be.-Einstein Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Trojan??
Hmm that’s odd. How big is the file? Can you zip up the files and upload them somewhere for me to get? I can run it through our systems and tell you what I find out about the files. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Franc Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:40 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Trojan?? I started sending my file to your site about a hour ago and it still has not been sent completely. It says do not stop until it is complete. How long does it take? Sam Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Try scanning those online at www.virustotal.com . Scanning against all those AV's gives what I call decent detection. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Franc Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:13 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Trojan?? Brian, I have been running an AVG scan and it has found several places for the Trojan Horse Agent_r.CX in Zone Alarm setup files on my desktop. Zls setup_70_484_000 70_337_000 70_483_000 70_462_000 If I put those files in recycle bin and empty it will that get rid of them? Sam Brian Weeden wrote: Could be a few different things going on. Might have been a false positive and you might have killed something necessary for your internet connection to work. But it might have also been a real trojan. Sometimes they insert themselves pretty deeply in system processes and removing them breaks the links that allows things like the network stack to work. Try rebooting, see if that helps. Also try safe mode. But don't get your hopes up. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Sam Franc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This am when I started up a message came on the screen from AVG. AVG finds you have a trojan. Do you want to remove it forcefully? I clicked yes and the message reappeared. I could not get rid of it. I restarted the computer and the message was gone. Now when I start Firefox I get a message it is taking to long no matter what URL I try to get. Is that the trojan working? What should I do now? -- Sam Franc On the Oregon Coast I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be.-Einstein No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1723 - Release Date: 10/13/2008 6:42 PM -- Sam Franc On the Oregon Coast I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be.-Einstein Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1723 - Release Date: 10/13/2008 6:42 PM -- Sam Franc On the Oregon Coast I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be.-Einstein
Re: [H] It's A Record!!!
Maybe I am imagining things but I think I remember back in the 1999-2001 days when getting 100 was not totally out of the ordinary. The list was even advertised as high volume. But its possible I am getting this list mixed up with another one. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:50 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] It's A Record!!! In all my years lurking around HWG, I don't recall ever seeing the volume of messages generated today by the list. 60!!! If that record was ever bested, I sure can't recall when.. And just when I thought things were dying off, it springs to life!! Excellent! By the way if we're taking a show of hands, no Facebook, please. I'm sure I'm old and in the way, but just don't trust them social networking sites... Bill Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] It's A Record!!!
Ahh those were the good ol days when Sabre had ftp accounts for us that were serving files SUPER fast. Those were the days of case modd pioneering. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:17 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] It's A Record!!! No -- the list used to be advertised as high volume. I think that's when Sabre was hosting it. Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Maybe I am imagining things but I think I remember back in the 1999-2001 days when getting 100 was not totally out of the ordinary. The list was even advertised as high volume. But its possible I am getting this list mixed up with another one. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Sr. Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] NOD32 ?
Not sure if nod32 has any network filter drivers but if it does then yes it can easily break network connectivity. Do you have anything else installed that might filter network traffic? Firewalls would be a good candidate. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:41 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] NOD32 ? Recently installed nod32 AV to play with. Have lost LAN connection from server to office yet I can still access server no problem from the office. Can nod32 do this ? turning it off has no affect thanks fishing fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Those without heads do not need hats. Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Breaking Disk Encryption
Hardware is not really the solution. The problem is layered but the main problem here is physical security. If you have a system and all of its components to encrypt and decrypt are right there in one piece and people can connect debuggers to it or analyze it they could break anything you do. But if the system is not complete without something else like a private key that needs to be retrieved remotely then you have some extra security. Then you can control the process by seeing if physical security is compromised you just don't send that private key and the system is incomplete. For true secure solutions you need to layer, then separate, then control access to each layer and component. So in the case of hard drive encryption if an FBI person gets your drive and you can bet they can find out everything on it if they care enough. Security is really just a level of comfort you can deal with. EVERYTHING can be compromised in some way. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:24 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Breaking Disk Encryption Nice find Ali! sorry this long, by I feel passionate about this... Yet another disturbing insight into how exploitable the modern PC is. To be fair, peaking into RAM of running systems has been PoC'd more than a few times (as have a countermeasure or 2) all useless against a fully unpowered system. Scary to have powered vs. not redefined though! When I 1st started toying 10+ years ago with Norton Your Eyes Only, E4M later DriveCrypt it seemed the biggest issue after what cipher, what app, was OS swapping RAM to disk either pagefile or for hibernation. Yet for for years Crypto experts like Bruce Schneier and others have been saying that no matter what, using general purpose computers to run encryption software is flawed exploitable. It would seem that ultimately noting short of both full RAM storage encryption is going to prevent a running system from having it's brains sucked out scrutinized. We know of attempts with M$ XBOX, HDCP, or HD-DVD/BluRay to secure against scrutiny. While they are seeing varying degrees of success locking US out very little is coming in the form of letting us lock THEM out. Obviously it's possible to build systems that once set-in-motion, encrypt and continue to run leaving no keys in ram to sniff since only the system knows what it's using to crypt/decrypt like Colossus Guardian talking to each other in a language only they knew! Until then, on running systems, manual user intervention is needed where auto-dismount is not practical. Passwords/phrases must die, keys must be tied to a secure physical token so that removing it means there are no keys. Removal of token should trigger memory wiping so keydata is not cached. Some of this must already exist? I won't even go into EFS, it's default lame option of obscuring the master keys in the registry, or the fact that mode 3 only works with floppies! Now any system that can be suspended has got to be easier to protect IMHO. If RAM sniffing an issue, then OTFE software needs to add key flush on on suspend followed by re-authentication to retrieve keys from external source (read not on the PC's RAM, HDD, SDD) on resume rather use RAM cached copies. Don't know how easy that is to tie in, but I assume under the current model apps have to wait for storage drivers to come back online after suspend anyway so I imagine it how this hole gets closed. Personally I'd like to have a encrypted hibernation file tied to a physical token for plug boot authentication. Bottom line is time has come for *affordable*, faster, dedicated hardware solutions to be made available. Either in the form of TPM's in motherboards, storage devices, host controllers, or even inline black boxes between device host using a tamper-proof hardware solution. A solution like the IronKey USB flash drive has between it's USB interface flash RAM. Give me a bunch of those modules in the form of SATA go-betweens programmable hardware security token I'd have all my SATA drives encrypted! Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Interesting read for those into disk encryption http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9876060-38.html Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater
With perl you could just parse the c:\windows\WindowsUpdate.log and after you check and see no patches found then you could just delete the startup script. I am sure it would be really easy to determine that even if its a hack like checking for the existence of a file or something. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:50 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater Totally doable if you use a INF instead of a REG to do the patching so you have a control over setting or reverting the settings by simply changing the parameters of the call to the INF. Initiate the setup call the INF install with GUIRunOnce in WINNT.SIF. As to how to automatically detect when all updates are installed I'm stumped but removing is as simple as calling the same command with a different section. To invoke the INF Add a line to $OEM$\Cmdlines.txt to invoke the INF you created from the sysdff difference file. The command is of the same form as you would use to invoke any Windows 95-style INF. The format is as follows: RUNDLL32 syssetup,SetupInfObjectInstallAction section 128 inf where: Section specifies the name of the section in the INF file. Inf specifies the name of the INF file. This should be specified as a relative path to avoid invoking Setup's default INF rules, which look for an unqualified filename in the system inf directory instead of the current directory. For example, specify ..\newtools.inf, not just newtools.inf. The command is always enclosed in double quotation marks. Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Greg your the Man! Thanks for the reg key info and the wuaclt /detectnow info. I remember there was a command line way to force it to check but too lazy to look for it. So you answered my laziness for me. I think a combination of nLite customized xp install to include something's in the install like perl or whatever scripting language can really automate this whole process so the computer keeps checking for updates on start up until there are none left and deletes itself and changes reg keys back to normal. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:23 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater Some other useful notes: net stop wuauserv stops the Automatic Updates (AU) service so it will pick up the new config. Change to start, obviously, to restart it. wuauclt /detectnow forces AU to detect if updates are needed immediately. c:\windows\WindowsUpdate.log provides a verbose log file of AU activity. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:13 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater At 03:04 PM 20/02/2008, Greg Sevart wrote: Oh, absolutely. You also don't need a domain and group policy--you just use a .reg file to add the WSUS server info, then delete the key when you're fully patched. We use it internally to bring new machines up to date -before- joining the corporate domain. Awesome. This is going to be a huge time saver for me. I owe you. T Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[H] Breaking Disk Encryption
Interesting read for those into disk encryption http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9876060-38.html Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater
I would 2nd not using 3rd party tools for this kind of stuff unless its a up to business par. I worked for a company who was the pioneer of windows patch management and trust me its a VERY hard thing to do right I would be very hesitant to trust some free tool. But if you could install with a xp sp2 install then connect to your own internal WSUS server for updates post install patching could go from 2hrs to 20min. One cool tool I found and actually used was nLite. Anyone else here use that before? I only used it once but worked good that one time. But I can't really vouch for it as a tool to run your business on but if anyone wants to play with it and let us know what you think I would love to hear. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 5:48 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater Thane, I'm actually kinda surprised you don't just run an internal WSUS server for in-house patching. I've always preferred it over third party tools. Sure, it still requires multiple reboots, but at least pulling updates is nearly instantaneous. After a couple botched systems caused by Autopatcher, I just don't trust those tools to get the dependencies right. It doesn't help much in the field so to speak, but could certainly assist in-house. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:34 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater Hi Brian, Thanks for the tip, I'm definitely going to try this out. T At 09:06 AM 20/02/2008, Brian Weeden wrote: Having going through the apain of multiple reboots and patching for a new windows install too many times myself, I wanted to pass along this little gem that I don't think has been mentioned here before: http://www.heise-online.co.uk/security/Do-it-yourself-Service-Pack-- /features/80682 It's an offline updater for Windows, reminiscent of the now defunct Autopatcher. You download it, tell it which windows products (OS and/or Office), versions, and languages you want, and it will download all the patches and service packs and put them into one burnable CD or DVD. The download link for the latest version is here: http://www.heise.de/ct/projekte/offlineupdate/download_uk.shtml Lifesaver. --- Brian Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater
Greg your the Man! Thanks for the reg key info and the wuaclt /detectnow info. I remember there was a command line way to force it to check but too lazy to look for it. So you answered my laziness for me. I think a combination of nLite customized xp install to include something's in the install like perl or whatever scripting language can really automate this whole process so the computer keeps checking for updates on start up until there are none left and deletes itself and changes reg keys back to normal. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:23 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater Some other useful notes: net stop wuauserv stops the Automatic Updates (AU) service so it will pick up the new config. Change to start, obviously, to restart it. wuauclt /detectnow forces AU to detect if updates are needed immediately. c:\windows\WindowsUpdate.log provides a verbose log file of AU activity. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:13 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Offline Windows Updater At 03:04 PM 20/02/2008, Greg Sevart wrote: Oh, absolutely. You also don't need a domain and group policy--you just use a .reg file to add the WSUS server info, then delete the key when you're fully patched. We use it internally to bring new machines up to date -before- joining the corporate domain. Awesome. This is going to be a huge time saver for me. I owe you. T Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Capturing websites
I forgot to ask if you were looking for local copies of whole websites or if you were more interested in just saving a webpage's important content. If its the latter the recommendation I gave was the best I have come across since it saves it online but if its the first then wget with the right parameters is good as well as a bunch of other ones. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:55 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Capturing websites Clipmarks for Firefox works kidna well. It saves content on the server so thats good but only in like 1k words or letter chunks. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1407 Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:27 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Capturing websites Anyone know of a tool (free is nice) to capture an entire website? Not interested in stealing, mind you. I just need to preserve the info there so that I can look at it after the website disappears. Doesn't Acrobat (not the reader) do that? Thanks. Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ?
Check your host file c:\windows\drivers\etc\hosts or check which IP your connecting to for downloads. You might have had a trojan mess with your dns settings. This could happen in the host file or at a lower level which will be harder to detect. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:06 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ? Have narrowed this down to the scheduled update feature in my SAVC file dwhwizrd.exe. When it runs it creates a endless stream of files dwh.tmp ( where is random numbers) It detects these as a trojan . So does my Webroot AV. Have I been infected by a really smart V or is this a bug in my SAVC. Wondering if anyone else has seen this.? Getting ready to un install it but meanwhile have disabled scheduled updates. Also FWIW it also is detecting tools I have used for years as bad boys. ( combofix and rockxp to name just two) google has shown this to be a false positive. thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- I'm on the trailing edge of technology. Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com
Re: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ?
You could check at the IP level on a box that's not the compromised machine. Just launch a sniffer and make sure your on a network that can see the traffic and see where the actual download is going to. Then compare that to where it should be going to. I bet rootkit is redirecting your downloads and just serving malware from that new location. I would be interested in knowing that if it were true. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:28 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Symantec AV went NUTS ? good idea, nothing in hosts except 127.0.0.1 localhost all others show nothing suspicious. think I will do a rootkit scan for grins. fp At 11:07 AM 2/11/2008, Mesdaq, Ali Poked the stick with: Check your host file c:\windows\drivers\etc\hosts or check which IP your connecting to for downloads. You might have had a trojan mess with your dns settings. This could happen in the host file or at a lower level which will be harder to detect. Thanks, -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Take the bull by the hand, and don't mix metaphors. Protected by Websense Messaging Security -- www.websense.com
RE: [H] packet sniffer
If you like to be geeky and bleeding edge check out Analyzer http://analyzer.polito.it/ . Its written by the guys that wrote winpcap. The main advantage it has over other sniffers is that its built ontop of netpdl which is xml based protocol definitions and dissectors. This is good if you want to create your own protocol dissector or modify existing ones. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 1:19 PM To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] packet sniffer Do not know how good this is, but the Brother Guru's asked me to use this to TS what I believe is a printer problem. The printer is hitting/logging my router's log every 11-12 minutes. The router posts an entry saying, LAN access denied to a device with mac address 00. The mac address is my printer.. :) Anyway, thought you might like to play... The code is at http://www.wireshark.org/ hth, Duncan TO REPORT THIS AS SPAM, PLEASE CLICK THE FOLLOWING LINK: https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MKdX+ZkhIau+oOTShGObwNJ9Epdnk7A+idI6fIdGM WoBWvRG3lGYSVah1!MicEb0QHTZ9xa!mHe9Bun8NbMyVrkZmBuhofqMGgjK3kdiCm2YUG4du fpa8nTgYP0+TWXBlFXQ9hIkUUN!xWiiCtQScpMolyLfXqISTyve54F4TSwqEyEo0lRW8yTgm 6c5Zx1MM5HTD8qohsnvIAFkij0w8EgJ3lWxm5Cl
[H] Dual Monitor Video Card
Hey All, Looking for some quick advice on which video card to request at work. I have 2 LCD screens that are both DVI and analog inputs. So obviously I would prefer a card that is good for business applications and supports DVI natively. Another thing I like to do is put my monitors in portrait mode so that I get more top to bottom real estate. But I have noticed that kills video performance. I am assuming its from redrawing everything on screen instead of at a lower level so a card that could do that natively would be great. Oh yeah one more thing it can't be a $500 card since I have to get my work to approve it. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com --
RE: [H] restoring policy's ?
Is it really worth it to try to clean? Are you sure a nice clean re-install wouldn't be better? I always suggest people stay away from remediation because your only depending on tools and their signatures and trust me even the best AV doesn't have very good coverage. Most malware these days are also web based so they download newer versions from the web. So 1 piece of malware will usually result in 5-10 new pieces of malware downloaded. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:43 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] restoring policy's ? Have a REALLY screwed up one. Spyware or something has basically locked out everything. While I did get the control panel back none of the applets run. gpedit.msc says file not found. can not manage users. Was able to fix this a little and it is better but some of this needs to be restored. I suspect a whole system restore is needed to be honest but I always respect a challenge. :-D Any suggestions will be helpful. ( or tools ) fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Nobody home but the lights, and they're out too.
RE: [H] restoring policy's ?
I don't know about accessing add/remove programs directly but to uninstall most applications that were installed via installshield there is regkeys that save information about the uninstall string. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\ you can just paste the uninstall strings into the run box and proceed that way. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FP Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:35 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] restoring policy's ? FWIW even in safe mode countrol panel applets do not work. Anyway to access add remove programs directly ? fp - Original Message - From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: RE: [H] restoring policy's ? thanks Tim Been removing stuff but hadn't even though of safe mode. ( my bad ) Biggest baddy is something called avsystemcare. Have gotten rid of some of the pop ups but without control panel access and add remove programs. crap. I got control panel ( registry nocontrolpanel 0 ) but it vanished again but when I had it non of the applets worked. real bad one. I'm sure my head will be sore b4 I do what I know needs to be done. :-[ thanks Fred At 10:00 AM 10/2/2007, Tim \The Beave\ Lider Poked the stick with: Does the computer run in safe mode? If so you can see if anything runs there. Also, Check the Task Manager and see if there is any software running that looks fishy (Pun intended). There is a lot of Spyware that locks computers down and do not let you run certain utilities. I have seen this in the past. The funny thing is the person who owns the computer has no idea how they got in there. Good luck, Tim The Beave Lider E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Laws are like sausages, it is better to not see them made
RE: [H] FF default text ?
In the address bar type about:config Then filter with the text font. Then double click the font.size.x.x you want to modify. I think its font.size.variable.x-unicode but I might be wrong so play around with it. I hope that helps. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:16 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] FF default text ? any way to make the default text larger ? every time I start FF I have to make it a notch bigger, seems like no matter where I go. Thanks -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Sex is hereditary. If your parents didn't, you won't.
RE: [H] Server changes ip addy
What OS, version, ip configuration your using, etc. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:05 AM To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] Server changes ip addy Is there some function in a server, or, some external malicious code that can cause a server to change its' assigned ip address to some other address? Somehow my server's ip addy got changed ~2200hrs last Monday and it took me about 36hrs to find (stumble on actually!) the changed ip addy. Very odd. The server is now changed back and scanned for virus/malware. None found. Best, Duncan This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
RE: [H] Server changes ip addy
Well by config I meant like how is your server configured? Static IP? Static DHCP IP? Do you set your IP at start up or is it done via config (applies to linux only). But what did your IP change to? Have you lost connectivity from your ISP or from your networking hardware at all? Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:28 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Server changes ip addy Ali, using win2k server os at sp4 and all current winUpdates. please explain ip configuration your using? on-board intel 82557 nic. original ip was 10.0.0.x/255.255.255.0. connection to www is via 56k dialup via courier external and DUN. HTH, Duncan At 13:12 07/18/2007 -0400, you wrote: What OS, version, ip configuration your using, etc. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:05 AM To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] Server changes ip addy Is there some function in a server, or, some external malicious code that can cause a server to change its' assigned ip address to some other address? Somehow my server's ip addy got changed ~2200hrs last Monday and it took me about 36hrs to find (stumble on actually!) the changed ip addy. Very odd. The server is now changed back and scanned for virus/malware. None found. Best, Duncan snip This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
RE: [H] Homemade DVR suggestions
This is great info. But I definitely think that you're a much bigger hardware freak than me because I was thinking of replacing the COX DVR box I have with something equivalent but with more of a coolness factor. I also wanted something where I could expand and add features to myself. I like these Linux software solutions that can be installed on a pc. Some of the features I wanted to add would be to install apache and build a web interface to feed the box torrent files and it would go download them and display in the dvr list when complete. As far as what it NEEDS to do is just basic dvr stuff. I can't live without dvr even though torrents are a good thing but nothing beats having a show ready to watch right when you get home. As I buy the hardware and start setting it up I will keep posting to the group to give everyone my opinions on the software or related items. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 1:37 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Homemade DVR suggestions This assumes you aren't contemplating a Media Center and strictly want to record TV... and we are not talking HD. The most important thing here is the CPU, and a Intel P4 or above is the only one for this job. For encoding the faster the better. AMD just doesn't do as well with this. For basic recording and editing out commercials 2GB of RAM, and a quick 72K drive works great. You don't need RAID unless you are planning on making your own movies with your own 3D graphics... that sort of thing. Any decent video card will do for TV recording, and commercial editing. I am still using a Matrox G450 for exactly this job, and it works great with a P4 3.4Ghz and 2GB of RAM, a Hauppage TV tuner and USB2 DVR with 1.6TB of drive space in four drives. The great thing about the Matrox is DVDMAX. When enabled on a dual head all you do is play video from any media app and it will output perfectly to your TV. No adjusting ..nothing. Perfect every time. I also use a dual Xeon 3.056Ghz with 4GB of RAM, a AIW 800XT and Raptor drives but there is no real difference in the output other then encoding speed, of course. For regular TV broadcast recording I use a collection of AIW and a USB2 Hauppage TV tuner. Surprisely there is very little difference between the ATI and the Hauppage. What does make a difference is the souce. Recording from a Digital cable box into the Line In Jacks does a superior job to any PC turner out there. Things like Hardball, Charlie Rose I record on the Hauppage or AIW to watch on the PC or outputted to my TV. Things I want to keep and turn into a DVD I recorde from the Digital Cable box into the In Jacks of the All in Wonder. Just about any name brand PC TV turner will come with it's own remote. They all suck but start there because maybe that is all you will need. One thing you will want is a huge amount of storage space. DVR is a black hole of GBs. Get it now, or get it as you go along, but you will get it. Operating system you want XP PRO or better. AIW only works with XP so you can pick one up used cheap. However, if you want to build a video editing workstation that is second to none then consider this 12k baby! http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2145632,00.asp June 13, 2007 Build a Content Creation Workstation By Loyd Case Creating content is a huge business. Whether it's developing special effects for Hollywood blockbusters, video and PC games, or just the web, productivity is the key. We'll be discussing how to build your own content creation workstation. Along the way, we'll build one very high-end system, but we'll also discuss alternatives along the way to either reduce cost, improve flexibility, or target specific types of applications. The focus today, though, is on content creation. While the system we build may be well suited for CAD (computer aided design) or CAE (computer aided engineering), it's not optimized for those applications. Rather, we're going to talk about 3D content creation, with an added side trip discussing video editing and rendering. Most of the applications we'll be looking at are optimized for multi-threading, and can generally take advantage of multiple CPU cores. We'll also take a look at the effect of using accelerated 3D (versus software rendering) for actual creation and editing. Pure rendering of the final scenes, of course, are software generated. That may change over time, as high end graphics accelerators begin to look more like general purpose CPUs. Today, however, the traditional model means creating and editing interactively, then rendering offline. With these thoughts in mind, let's take a look at the components first, discuss the building process, then talk about
[H] Homemade DVR suggestions
I am sure some of you guys have made some homemade DVR computers. I am looking for suggestions for hardware, software, and anything else related. I have never made one and pretty much have no idea of what's required except I am pretty sure a HD is needed haha. Not looking to break the bank but if there were cool enough features I might spend more if its worth it. Right now I have a cox rented DVR and it integrates with the channel guide which is a pretty big thing so I would want that functionality. I also like the idea of accessing the videos/control remotely like on my phone or laptop. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com --
RE: [H] take off search list
That's a good question. I know at Websense our crawler can still find those pages and it PISSES some people off. Some people watch their logs very closely and see our crawlers and hitting it and they spaz out because they think they are the only people in the whole universe that know of that pages existence. We can find those pages if it gets sent to us by our customers via a opt in mechanism. So if a crawler has no other source of data then yes that page should not get indexed. But in the case of google, yahoo, msn, etc they have many many sources of data for URL's not just what they can discover via a crawl. They COULD (not saying they do or don't) register all URL's they see with their toolbars, emails they host, or other data sources. But if you just want to hide a page just password protect the page or directory and even use a self signed ssl cert to encrypt it if your after privacy. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of j maccraw Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:28 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] take off search list If a web server does not allow directory browsing, you don't use a common name filename, and don't link to it, does it still get indexed? Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Sorry for not getting back earlier I totally forgot about this. But I have never actually used the robots.txt file but I looked at their spec and you seem to have it correct. I also saw that html elements are also used in some cases. Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
RE: [H] take off search list
Sorry for not getting back earlier I totally forgot about this. But I have never actually used the robots.txt file but I looked at their spec and you seem to have it correct. I also saw that html elements are also used in some cases. META NAME=ROBOTS CONTENT=NOINDEX, NOFOLLOW I was looking at: http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/exclusion.html Hope that helped you some. -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:09 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] take off search list At 11:57 AM 5/9/2007, you wrote: Robots.txt file. Google it it's a spec most search engines follow but they don't have to. There are also other techniques like writing the page with javascript instead of having it written when served. I can go into details depending on if that robots.txt is sufficient. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- Yes this is all I need, thanks. In fact, it is a personal site and it would be fine just to do the whole site. So if I just create a robot.txt file with User-agent: * Disallow: / in it and put it in the root directory will that be enough to prevent Google and most other sites from indexing me?
RE: [H] take off search list
Robots.txt file. Google it it's a spec most search engines follow but they don't have to. There are also other techniques like writing the page with javascript instead of having it written when served. I can go into details depending on if that robots.txt is sufficient. Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher II Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:54 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] take off search list Is there a way, other then password protection, to keep a page from appearing in any web searches?
[H] Sendmail question
Hey anyone here a sendmail pro? Does anyone know what exactly the mqueue is used for on sendmail? Is it a queue of both incoming and outgoing mail or just for incoming? I am seeing the queue get pretty big on a box. But before I dig deep and check all the settings I just wanted some feedback from the borg collective :-) Thanks, -- Ali Mesdaq Security Researcher Websense Security Labs http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com --
RE: [H] MP3 players...
Yes that's when the 1gb worth of Sade and Morcheeba come into a endless loop! LOL Anthony your hilarious man. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:51 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] MP3 players... Bobby Heid wrote: :: Ok, ok! I'll look at the Ipods again too. LOL. :: Just carefully consider what you'd really do with it. Personally, though, I don't think you'll really know until after you've waste some money on Mp3 players in general. One thing I do use my old 30G iPod forget a set of iPod speakers, put it in a bedroom. Set up some playlists, and you're all ready when it's time to knock boots! :)
RE: [H] Linux server case sensitive
Well there are several ways to avoid it like using dynamic content based links or using SEO techniques but I probably need some more info to give a good suggestion. Can you give some examples of the links? But in general files on Linux are case sensitive and that's where the root of your problem is. By the way godaddy is the worst host on the net. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:00 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Linux server case sensitive I recently switched my Godaddy web hosting server from windows to Linux in order to had htaccess support. Unfortunately, this resulted in case sensitive links. This does not work well in a business environment because people often don't remember to pay attention to case. Is there an easy work around for this, like just turning off case sensitivity?
RE: [H] Linux server case sensitive
Well I guess I am just very critical. But goDaddy sucks as a host but their I use their registrar service all the time. Companies that are not in America where I can actually go and meet someone are not even considered when I do business unless of course it's a customer. But the hosting company I use is aplus or Dreamhost just because its more geared towards power users. Godaddy is good if you want to pay 4 bucks a month and get the most bang for your buck but not do anything too advanced. I myself and several colleagues and friends have used godaddy before and we all do some type of development or advanced work and godaddy basically sucked for all of us. You can pretty much get the feeling that godaddy is making a bunch of money and just got into hosting to make money on it but didn't really plan for their growth in that arena. You can definitely feel a major performance hit when comparing with the other two hosts I mentioned. Because when I was moving off godaddy I was so surprised how much faster things happened even basic network stuff like file uploads. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:48 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Linux server case sensitive At 02:28 PM 11/10/2006, you wrote: But in general files on Linux are case sensitive and that's where the root of your problem is. yeah, I realize that, They easiest solution is to put my primary domains back on Windows servers, and keep one on Linux for htaccess support. By the way godaddy is the worst host on the net. why do you say that, it has been great for me, and my domains, which handle my business interests. Very good price, I've never had a failure, or a serious problem they didn't go out of their way to solve. Lots of options, and choices. It is easy to mange, and configure things on line. When I call for questions, or help, an American I can understand answers the phone, within a few minutes, and they let me turn off the music, if I do have to wait. Plus 24/7 availability. They are a very customer oriented company, and very customer responsive. The founder CEO is a ex marine Vietnam vet, which I can relate to, and the company is in America, run by Americans, and I like that. In fact, when they go public I will probably buy a few thousand shares. They are currently a number one hosting company and I think they are going to stay there ... because they know what is important in a business. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:00 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Linux server case sensitive I recently switched my Godaddy web hosting server from windows to Linux in order to had htaccess support. Unfortunately, this resulted in case sensitive links. This does not work well in a business environment because people often don't remember to pay attention to case. Is there an easy work around for this, like just turning off case sensitivity?
RE: [H] New yahoo webmail
It looks like my outlook web access has looked like for the past 5 years. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulfiqar Naushad Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New yahoo webmail All I have to say is WOWZA!!! If web 2.0 is this good, then I would say that by 4.0 or 5.0 we will be kissing the OS and standalone apps good bye!!!
RE: [H] New yahoo webmail
Well I was trying to also point out that these email for the masses companies have still not caught up to MS as far as presentation is concerned. I would think that the team that google, yahoo, etc have dedicated to develop their email application is not as big of a team that MS dedicated to making a small feature in their product. I would really like to see gmail or yahoo really step it up and have a super interface. Personally I use gmail for my personal stuff but it SUCKS in my opinion. I hate labels and I hate the way it combines emails into conversations even when its not intended to be the same conversation. Very annoying. And the only way you can find emails is by searching which sucks. Sometimes you dont know enough to search on but you know enough to sort on and start looking which gmail does not do. Oh wow just noticed I was ranting on a tangent for a bit. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulfiqar Naushad Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:29 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] New yahoo webmail Yes, you are right. However, this is for the masses. Not for people who work for corporations that have purchased Exchange. Also, you get all the pizzazz of OWA without using IE. Have you tried using OWA without IE? Utter junk! - Original Message From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:25:43 PM Subject: RE: [H] New yahoo webmail It looks like my outlook web access has looked like for the past 5 years. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulfiqar Naushad Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:59 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] New yahoo webmail All I have to say is WOWZA!!! If web 2.0 is this good, then I would say that by 4.0 or 5.0 we will be kissing the OS and standalone apps good bye!!!
RE: [H] Secure web page
What kinda information are you trying to put up? Maybe there is a alternate solution. Also by secure how secure do you want to be? As secure as ftp? i.e. plaintext passwords? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:05 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Secure web page I want to put up a web page, of an excel file, on my site that is log on only, and is secure. I have never understood why Frontpage doesn't have this built into it as a tool. I could use a password for the excel file but that is not secure. Any ideas?
RE: [H] Secure web page
But just because it opens up in my browser window doesn't mean the file is not on my hard drive. But since your using another method to encrypt the file you should be ok. I mean its not full proof by any means and someone that wants that info will get it but if you're just trying to avoid the casual snooper you should be ok. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 7:30 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Secure web page At 06:59 AM 10/9/2006, you wrote: What kinda information are you trying to put up? Maybe there is a alternate solution. Also by secure how secure do you want to be? As secure as ftp? i.e. plaintext passwords? Well, from time to time I need to share sensitive financial information from a spread sheet. I currently encrypt the file with blowfish, but then it has to be downloaded, opened, and run. It would make things a lot easier, and more secure, if I could just have a password protected to folder to put the excel file in where it opened on line and was not on somebodies hard drive. I checked with Godaddy, the hosting company, and they told me that they do support .htaccess ,so I am trying to set up a password protected folder, but it isn't working. My site has FP extensions. I have created the .htaccess file using this tool http://www.tools.dynamicdrive.com/password/ and put it in new folder secure. I have then put the .htpasswd file in the _private folder. Anything I put into the folder should be protected by the user name and password but that isn't happening. I am not seeing the log in box at all no security. Anybody know what I am doing wrong?
[H] Stop those stupid bubbles
How do you stop xp's stupid bubbles things from popping up? Like the one for take a tour of xp and the one when you turn off automatic updates?
RE: [H] Stop those stupid bubbles
Yeah that's the worse of all -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:44 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Stop those stupid bubbles On Mon, 9 Oct 2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: How do you stop xp's stupid bubbles things from popping up? Like the one for take a tour of xp and the one when you turn off automatic updates? And the Unused Desktop Icons! Christopher Fisk -- You might want to comment on that, Honorable. George W. Bush, July 15, 2000 Governor Bush was speaking to the New Jersey Secretary of State, Honorable DeForest Soaries. Reported by the Washington Post.
RE: [H] iMac arrived today...
Well let me take a shot at answering your question. Why would I buy OSX to run on my PC when there are a million Windows apps out there that won't run on it? Although I don't own a mac I would say that there are enough applications that do the same thing on macs as they do on windows. Email, web browsing, games, office productivity, graphics, video editing, etc. I used to make that same argument all the time but I personally cant think of anything that I use that can't be done on a mac. I don't play many games and I am aware it is lacking full support there. But can you name a few type of apps that are not available on macs? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Zaske Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:28 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... That's a crap answer Bryan (lol) and you know it! Instead of showing your bias why not answer my ? instead. You can't argue with market share Einstein! ;-) Bryan Seitz wrote: On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:42:43PM -0500, Stan Zaske wrote: I don't get it! Why would I buy OSX to run on my PC when there are a million Windows apps out there that won't run on it? Am I missing something here? Do Window's apps run on OSX? Cause windows is a giant flaming turd that has been shined up over the years. It's still a turd.
RE: [H] iMac arrived today...
GPS as in the navigation? Or am I wa off on that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:53 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... GPS apps are lacking for Mac's. That's about the only thing I think I would miss. Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Well let me take a shot at answering your question. Why would I buy OSX to run on my PC when there are a million Windows apps out there that won't run on it? Although I don't own a mac I would say that there are enough applications that do the same thing on macs as they do on windows. Email, web browsing, games, office productivity, graphics, video editing, etc. I used to make that same argument all the time but I personally cant think of anything that I use that can't be done on a mac. I don't play many games and I am aware it is lacking full support there. But can you name a few type of apps that are not available on macs?
RE: [H] iMac arrived today...
Oh that's really cool. If it were me I would dump to xml then just create a webpage with google's api and write a little script to import and superimpose onto google map. That way its platform independent. But that's cool that your gps can do that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:40 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... Well, GPS as in let me connect my Garmin GPS to my computer and download all of my waypoints and tracks, superimpose them on a topo map or satellite photos, etc. Something like what I can do with USA Photomaps. Mesdaq, Ali wrote: GPS as in the navigation? Or am I wa off on that? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:53 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... GPS apps are lacking for Mac's. That's about the only thing I think I would miss. Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Well let me take a shot at answering your question. Why would I buy OSX to run on my PC when there are a million Windows apps out there that won't run on it? Although I don't own a mac I would say that there are enough applications that do the same thing on macs as they do on windows. Email, web browsing, games, office productivity, graphics, video editing, etc. I used to make that same argument all the time but I personally cant think of anything that I use that can't be done on a mac. I don't play many games and I am aware it is lacking full support there. But can you name a few type of apps that are not available on macs?
RE: [H] iMac arrived today...
Really? When looking at the API it looked super simple and very flexible. What exactly do you want to do? A map of directions you traveled? Or a dot of places you were? I would create different ones for different purposes. You could probably pretty easily write a trip selection thing so that it just maps your trips for you. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:43 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... It's kind of a bitch to get Google Maps working with topo maps, which are the most important thing for me. Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Oh that's really cool. If it were me I would dump to xml then just create a webpage with google's api and write a little script to import and superimpose onto google map. That way its platform independent. But that's cool that your gps can do that.
RE: [H] iMac arrived today...
One advantage apple has over MS and keep in mind this is a HUGE advantage is tight integration with hardware. As soon as they open it up they will lose major stability. Now imagine you buy your apple software and its thrown onto to some crappy hardware and it starts having problems just like any OS would you really think osx is that cool? The things that make apple cool in these days is runs *nix, tight integration with hardware means its super stable, looks cool, and just works (hardware related again). I do like the options of throwing it on a super setup but I think that should be something offered by apple. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:51 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] iMac arrived today... I personally think it will come sooner then most expect. Apple are pretty silly (IMO) to not sell the OS for all PC users as they are letting everyone know that their new Macs are just PCslook we have Intel CPUs and you can load Windows XPbut its still a Mac... Other then the Apple badge and OSX, there is nothing to differentiate an Apple from a generic PC now and IMO, that can and will undermine the whole Apple idea. Also, with more and more ppl looking at Hackintoshes and with EFI motherboards due for release, they may find that its better to sell the OS, rather then have lots of ppl pirating it and running it on non-Apple hardware. Regards, Jason Tozer Database Analyst London Ext 1131 - 3SC.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: 02 October 2006 14:46 To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... I'm confused.if OS/X runs on the same hardware as what you call PCs why haven't they already captured this slice? Oh, you mean they should just sell the OS standlone on the shelf or licence it to vendors to sell with PCs. But then there would be no APPLE. I think that's decidedly anti-APPLE thinking. :) No point in being frustrated and don't expect changes until Jobs dies. :) Chris Reeves wrote: :: I'll tell you this, the more time I spend with Vista, the more :: convinced I am that Apple is wrong. Not because Vista is great, but :: because if Apple would get off it's high horse and decide to be a :: software maker, it could sell immense volumes of OS/X for the PC :: market, and be an instant competitor. :: :: Apple's closed system is what f*( them, not Microsoft. I've played :: with OS/X 86 (legitimate, through a legitimate local developer) and :: the thing runs on virtually anything as long as I put the PCI card :: from them in. I've seen it run on AMD, old Dells, whatever. The :: thing works and runs smooth on most hardware, because at it's heart, :: it's linux type core still handles it. :: :: Which is what kills me about apple. They could have a significant :: slice of the overall PC market if they wanted it. Yes, I know they :: do well (6% of total market, which is not bad) but if OS/X were to :: be an option for any PC owner, they could capture a big slice of it :: as they'd have a lot more adopters of their product. :: :: CW :: ::: -Original Message- ::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- ::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz ::: Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:50 PM ::: To: The Hardware List ::: Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... ::: ::: On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:45:52AM -0400, Chris Klein wrote: 1) The older G5s just weren't powerful enough to run some of our more demanding applications. We have since moved all of our high end applications over to Precision 690s. ::: ::: right, the new ones are core duo based or in the case of the g5, ::: Dual Xeon. ::: 2) One of our major problems is with Mac profiles. For instance Jane Doe gets married, and Jane's last name changes to Robinson. The Macs would shit themselves over the name change and everything would go haywire. ::: ::: Yeah lol. ::: We still run them for the Viewmaster group. They have G5s, and 30 inch LCDs. ::: ::: Unf. ::: ::: -- ::: ::: Bryan G. Seitz *** This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office. This firm is not authorised by the Financial Services Authority. However, we are included on the Register maintained by the Financial Services Authority so that we can carry on insurance mediation activity in the UK, which is broadly the advising
RE: [H] iMac arrived today...
Well image how much testing you have to do when your only hardware is about 10 different configurations as compared to 1 million different configs. The real reason windows has those really bad crashes ie bluescreens and what not is because of driver level (ring 0) code that's running on the machine. If everything was in the userland windows can very easily manage that and simple apps that crash will only crash themselves as is the case right now with userland apps. But its those drivers that suck that bring down systems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:08 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... I think that's a good point, if it really holds up. Does the hardware really make that much difference? I thought it was better to have a layer between the OS and the hardware to make hardware transparent (did they ever really happen?). Back in the old days (DOS), having a close connection between software and hardware was a big problem if you changed hardware, so it would *seem* this is a good point. Mesdaq, Ali wrote: :: One advantage apple has over MS and keep in mind this is a HUGE :: advantage is tight integration with hardware. As soon as they open :: it up they will lose major stability. Now imagine you buy your apple :: software and its thrown onto to some crappy hardware and it starts :: having problems just like any OS would you really think osx is that :: cool? The things that make apple cool in these days is runs *nix, :: tight integration with hardware means its super stable, looks cool, :: and just works (hardware related again). :: :: I do like the options of throwing it on a super setup but I think :: that should be something offered by apple. :: :: -Original Message- :: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:51 AM :: To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com :: Subject: RE: [H] iMac arrived today... :: :: I personally think it will come sooner then most expect. :: :: Apple are pretty silly (IMO) to not sell the OS for all PC users as :: they are :: letting everyone know that their new Macs are just PCslook we :: have Intel :: CPUs and you can load Windows XPbut its still a Mac... :: :: Other then the Apple badge and OSX, there is nothing to :: differentiate an Apple from a generic PC now and IMO, that can and :: will undermine the whole :: Apple idea. :: :: Also, with more and more ppl looking at Hackintoshes and with EFI :: motherboards due for release, they may find that its better to sell :: the OS, :: rather then have lots of ppl pirating it and running it on non-Apple :: hardware. :: :: Regards, :: :: Jason Tozer :: Database Analyst :: London :: Ext 1131 - 3SC.5 :: :: :: -Original Message- :: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony Q. :: Martin :: Sent: 02 October 2006 14:46 :: To: The Hardware List :: Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... :: :: :: I'm confused.if OS/X runs on the same hardware as what you call :: PCs why :: haven't they already captured this slice? :: :: Oh, you mean they should just sell the OS standlone on the shelf or :: licence :: it to vendors to sell with PCs. But then there would be no APPLE. :: :: I think that's decidedly anti-APPLE thinking. :) :: :: No point in being frustrated and don't expect changes until Jobs :: dies. :) :: :: :: Chris Reeves wrote: I'll tell you this, the more time I spend with Vista, the more convinced I am that Apple is wrong. Not because Vista is great, but because if Apple would get off it's high horse and decide to be a software maker, it could sell immense volumes of OS/X for the PC market, and be an instant competitor. Apple's closed system is what f*( them, not Microsoft. I've played with OS/X 86 (legitimate, through a legitimate local developer) and the thing runs on virtually anything as long as I put the PCI card from them in. I've seen it run on AMD, old Dells, whatever. The thing works and runs smooth on most hardware, because at it's heart, it's linux type core still handles it. Which is what kills me about apple. They could have a significant slice of the overall PC market if they wanted it. Yes, I know they do well (6% of total market, which is not bad) but if OS/X were to be an option for any PC owner, they could capture a big slice of it as they'd have a lot more adopters of their product. CW : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryan Seitz : Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:50 PM : To: The Hardware List : Subject: Re: [H] iMac arrived today... : : On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:45:52AM -0400, Chris Klein wrote: :: 1) The older G5s just
RE: [H] One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures
This will fuel the conspiracy theory that the moon walk was faked even more. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:42 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/one-giant-blunder-for-mankind-how-na sa-lost-moon-pictures/2006/08/04/1154198328978.html One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures HE heart-stopping moments when Neil Armstrong took his first tentative steps onto another world are defining images of the 20th century: grainy, fuzzy, unforgettable. But just 37 years after Apollo 11, it is feared the magnetic tapes that recorded the first moon walk - beamed to the world via three tracking stations, including Parkes's famous Dish - have gone missing at NASA's Goddard Space Centre in Maryland. A desperate search has begun amid concerns the tapes will disintegrate to dust before they can be found. It is not widely known that the Apollo 11 television broadcast from the moon was a high-quality transmission, far sharper than the blurry version relayed instantly to the world on that July day in 1969. Among those battling to unscramble the mystery is John Sarkissian, a CSIRO scientist stationed at Parkes for a decade. We are working on the assumption they still exist, Mr Sarkissian told the Herald. Your guess is a good as mine as to where they are. Mr Sarkissian began researching the role of Parkes in Apollo 11's mission in 1997, before the movie The Dish was made. However, when he later contacted NASA colleagues to ask about the tapes, they could not be found. People may have thought 'we have tapes of the moon walk, we don't need these', said the scientist who hopes a new, intensive hunt will locate them. If they can be found, he proposes making digitalised copies to treat the world to a very different view of history. But the searchers may be running out of time. The only known equipment on which the original analogue tapes can be decoded is at a Goddard centre set to close in October, raising fears that even if they are found before they deteriorate, copying them may be impossible. We want the public to see it the way the moon walk was meant to be seen, Mr Sarkissian said. There will only ever be one first moon walk. Originally stored at Goddard, the tapes were moved in 1970 to the US National Archives. No one knows why, but in 1984 about 700 boxes of space flight tapes there were returned to Goddard. We have the documents to say they were withdrawn, but no one knows exactly where they went, Mr Sarkissian said. Many people involved had retired or died. Also among tapes feared missing are the original recordings of the other five Apollo moon landings. The format used by the original pictures beamed from the moon was not compatible with commercial technology used by television networks. So the images received at Parkes, and at tracking stations near Canberra and in California, were played on screens mounted in front of conventional television cameras. The quality of what you saw on TV at home was substantially degraded in the process, Mr Sarkissian said, creating the ghostly images of Armstrong and Aldrin that strained the eyes of hundreds of millions of people watching around the world. Even Polaroid photographs of the screen that showed the original images received by Parkes are significantly sharper than what the public saw. While the technique looks primitive today, Mr Sarkissian said it was the best solution that 1969 technology offered. Among the few who saw the original high-quality broadcast was David Cooke, a Parkes control room engineer in 1969. I can still see the screen, Mr Cook, 74, said. I was amazed, the quality was fairly good.
RE: [H] OT - Al Jazeera
I have listened to her speech before and its quite interesting. Although I disagree with her in overall concept but her ideas are very good and should be looked into. I am muslim and I don't believe I am a danger to anyone unless someone is breaking into my house about to harm my family then they should worry but who isn't in that case. And that guy that said there is no point in arguing with her is exactly the problem with the muslims of the world. They are not open minded and don't consider anything else except their view as having any validity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 1:13 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT - Al Jazeera From: warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] OT - Al Jazeera Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:06:19 -0700 Don't see her rant helping much without a lot of other Muslims taking the same POV, speaking up and risking bodily harm. Nothing tougher to fight than mob mentality, esp. with religion telling them they are righteous. Oh you mean like a real martyr? As opposed to the subhuman filth who blow themselves up in order to take a few babies with them? What a concept to the muslim world.
RE: [H] Book on Java?
How to Program Java by Deitel Deitel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 3:14 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] Book on Java? I am getting into some web programming, specifcally writing an app in Java and then using the Google Toolkit to export it into HTML and javascript for use in an AJAX site. I know some C programming and HTML/CSS with a little bit of JavaScript. I was looking for a good book to learn Java and there are like hundreds out there - any that the list can recommend? -- Brian
RE: [H] OT - Family Tree web progamming
Yes actually there is a very good one. http://www.netvis.org/ This will really be showing off -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:13 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] OT - Family Tree web progamming I have a pretty extensive family tree that I want to put online. Of course I could just slap some html and links up there but I gotta show off my html skills to the family :) Are there any open source templates or css code snippets out there that anyone knows of? Basically I am thinking of something like a map you can scroll in all directions around the tree and when you mouseover a name it brings up a window with photo and details. Bonus points would be if the details pop-up could be wiki'd by my family members :) -- Brian
RE: [H] OT - Family Tree web progamming
Hardware list rule number 1 - Thou shall overkill all requirements to over compensate for any short comings one might have -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:51 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] OT - Family Tree web progamming Very, very cool software but I think that might be a bit overkill. On 7/25/06, Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes actually there is a very good one. http://www.netvis.org/ This will really be showing off -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:13 PM To: hwg Subject: [H] OT - Family Tree web progamming I have a pretty extensive family tree that I want to put online. Of course I could just slap some html and links up there but I gotta show off my html skills to the family :) Are there any open source templates or css code snippets out there that anyone knows of? Basically I am thinking of something like a map you can scroll in all directions around the tree and when you mouseover a name it brings up a window with photo and details. Bonus points would be if the details pop-up could be wiki'd by my family members :) -- Brian -- Brian
RE: [H] AV SW Again ?
What is your exact environment like? Are you running it on lots of pc's or just one? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:16 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] AV SW Again ? What does THG use for AV ? I use Symantec Corp but it is getting old and think it needs updating. Thoughts on Panda, Invircible and ? do need something that will scan LAN drives fp thanks -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- The eventual supremacy of reason should be accepted.
RE: [H] AV SW Again ?
Not sure about the mapped drive feature but I would use Nod32, Kaspersky, Panda, Trend, Norman, etc. But you just have to understand all of them probably have about a 60% coverage. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:39 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] AV SW Again ? small 3 to 4 system LAN. One main workstation, one is FTP server and other is basically redundant for backup. Like to be able to scan customer box but they only go on the LAN after a few sweeps. FWIW running Symantec Corp 9, have 10 but heard it had some problems. My only real complaint is how long the scans take, have never really had any problems with it. Been putting Norton 6 month trial from google in customer boxes. May run some free trials. I did a Kaspsersky trial once and liked it other then no lan scans of mapped drives. fp At 10:37 AM 7/20/2006, Mesdaq, Ali Poked the stick with: What is your exact environment like? Are you running it on lots of pc's or just one? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:16 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] AV SW Again ? What does THG use for AV ? I use Symantec Corp but it is getting old and think it needs updating. Thoughts on Panda, Invircible and ? do need something that will scan LAN drives fp thanks -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Did my ancestors inbreed? My genes seem tight.
RE: [H] Malware - Support Alert newsletter
I have been suggesting using vm images for a while now. Its definitely the way to go. Mess around with your torrents and p2p all you want then just revert and feel nice and safe. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Turnbull Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:19 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Malware - Support Alert newsletter From the Support Alert newsletter of July 20-06: (Not posted on the site yet) http://www.techsupportalert.com/issues/back_issues.htm By the time this series is completed, I'll have some specific recommendations for you on the best way to protect your computer against the latest generation of threats. These recommendations will be based on facts rather than vendor hype or commercial affiliation. Even now, two things are already clear to me. First, it's almost impossible to defend your PC from a modern malware program that is allowed to run on your PC with full admin privileges. The problem here is not with the security programs. The problem is with Windows. Second, it looks like virtualization techniques such as those used by VMWare, Sandboxie and the newcomer GreenBorder (see section 2.1 below) offer the best option for preventing infection. Here's my interim recommendation: If you are using Windows 2000 and later I strongly recommend you always surf using one of these virtualization products. It needn't cost you a cent either; SandBoxie is free and GreenBorder is free for the next 12 months. Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada
[H] Did you all see this
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2006/07/on-my-way-to-microsoft.html
RE: [H] Network, Internet Problem
I believe what's happening is that since they are both on the same network address you basically have 2 default gateways on each card. How would the OS know which one to go out on if it's on the same range? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rls Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:59 AM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: [H] Network, Internet Problem I have 2 network cards in my computer. One connects to a cable modem/router the other card connects to a DSL router. Each router is set up with networks using 192.168.2.x. When I have both cards enabled I cannot connect to the internet. When I disable either card I can connect. What's going on? Would things improve if I changed the network addresses range on either router?
RE: [H] Linux imaging
Depending on the imaging solution. DriveImage or whatever before Symantec used to do sector cloning by default. Ghost has almost always done file ghosting except when explicitly given the sector cloning flag. To do real sector cloning is a pretty huge and inefficient process. Its only good for forensics. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry McGregor Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 12:47 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Linux imaging Ben Ruset wrote: Tar is taking files out of a compressed (well, if it's gzipped) archive and recreating them on your system. :) Imaging is doing a sector by sector copy, archival, compression, and sector by sector restore on another machine. Not necessarily. Ghost under Fat32/NTFS does not do sector copy, it does file copy, and recreation. Now, if you were dd'ing disks, I'd say you were imaging. DD works well for forensics work, dd-rescure is better. BTW, we do tar restores of our Linux boxen here. :) Harry
RE: [H] Ransomware
We were the first to discover Ransomware :-) way back about half a year or more ago -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 4:27 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Ransomware http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,187845,00.html Computer Virus Demands Ransom for Encrypted Files Wednesday, March 15, 2006 By Ryan Naraine Virus hunters have discovered a new Trojan that encrypts files on an infected computer and then demands $300 in ransom for a decryption password. The Trojan, identified as Cryzip, uses a commercial zip library to store the victim's documents inside a password-protected zip file and leaves step-by-step instructions on how to pay the ransom to retrieve the files. It is not yet clear how the Trojan is being distributed, but security researchers say it was part of a small e-mail spam run that successfully evaded anti-virus scanners by staying below the radar. While this type of attack, known as ransomware, is not entirely new, it points to an increasing level of sophistication among online thieves who use social engineering tactics to trick victims into installing malware, said Shane Coursen, senior technical consultant at Moscow-based anti-virus vendor Kaspersky Lab. The LURHQ Threat Intelligence Group, based in Chicago, was able to crack the encryption code used in the Cryzip Trojan and determine how the files are encrypted and the payment mechanism that has been set up to collect the $300 ransom. According to a LURHQ advisory, Cryzip searches an infected hard drive for a wide range of widely used file types, including Word, Excel, PDF and JPG images. Once commandeered, the files are zipped and overwritten by the text: Erased by Zippo! GO OUT!!! The Trojan then deletes all the files, leaving only the encrypted file with the original file name, followed by the _CRYPT.ZIP extension. A new directory named AUTO_ZIP_REPORT.TXT is created with specific instructions on how to use the E-Gold online currency and payment system to send ransom payments. The instructions, which are marked by misspellings and poor grammar, contain the following text: Your computer catched our software while browsing illigal porn pages, all your documents, text files, databases was archived with long enought password. You can not guess the password for your archived files - password lenght is more then 10 symbols that makes all password recovery programs fail to bruteforce it (guess password by trying all possible combinations). The owner of the infected machine is warned not to search for the program that encrypted the data, claiming that it simply doesn't exist on the hard drive. If you really care about documents and information in encrypted files you can pay using electonic currency $300, the note says. Reporting to police about a case will not help you, they do not know password. Reporting somewhere about our E-Gold account will not help you to restore files. This is your only way to get yours files back. The Trojan author uses scores of E-Gold accounts simultaneously to get around potential shutdowns, according to LURHQ, which published the complete list of E-Gold accounts in the advisory. Officials from E-Gold, which operates out of the Caribbean island of Nevis, were not available for comment. Infection reports are not widespread, so it is not believed this is a mass threat by any means, LURHQ said. However, the company said social engineering malware is typically more successful when it is delivered in low volume to get around anti-virus detections. [M]ore attention means the likely closing of the accounts used for the anonymous money transfer, LURHQ said.
RE: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free
Isn't the only advantage of ESX that it can run on hardware directly with no OS installed? And isn't that only true with certified hardware? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:28 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free Well... 1. VMware started it by offering GSX for free. 2. MS still has nothing to compare to ESX server. ESX is all I would ever use in a (virtual) production environment. Greg - Original Message - From: Stan Zaske To: The Hardware List Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free Free? Only until MS drives VMWare out of business! Chris Reeves wrote: While they contend not in response to VMWare, etc. it's still the same end result: the product has been made free of charge for use. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/default.mspx CW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/309 - Release Date: 4/11/2006
RE: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free
What do you run it on and what are the typical uses? I am working on a virtualization project so I am pretty interested in your experience. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:13 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free Yes and I imagine so, however, your usage of only severely underappreciates the value of being able to run directly on the hardware. Not only are the performance and scalability enhancements very significant, but the ease of patch management and reduced risk from exposure are quite substantial as well. ESX Server is the only virtualization solution that is suitable for production level deployment IMO. Greg - Original Message - From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:41 PM Subject: RE: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free Isn't the only advantage of ESX that it can run on hardware directly with no OS installed? And isn't that only true with certified hardware? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:28 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free Well... 1. VMware started it by offering GSX for free. 2. MS still has nothing to compare to ESX server. ESX is all I would ever use in a (virtual) production environment. Greg - Original Message - From: Stan Zaske To: The Hardware List Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [H] MS Makes VirtualServer 2005 R2 Free Free? Only until MS drives VMWare out of business! Chris Reeves wrote: While they contend not in response to VMWare, etc. it's still the same end result: the product has been made free of charge for use. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/default.mspx CW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/309 - Release Date: 4/11/2006
RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible
Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where are those I can clean any infection guys at now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:03 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1945808,00.asp?kc=ewnws040406dtx1k0 000599 Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible April 4, 2006 By Ryan Naraine LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla.-In a rare discussion about the severity of the Windows malware scourge, a Microsoft security official said businesses should consider investing in an automated process to wipe hard drives and reinstall operating systems as a practical way to recover from malware infestation. When you are dealing with rootkits and some advanced spyware programs, the only solution is to rebuild from scratch. In some cases, there really is no way to recover without nuking the systems from orbit, Mike Danseglio, program manager in the Security Solutions group at Microsoft, said in a presentation at the InfoSec World conference here. Offensive rootkits, which are used hide malware programs and maintain an undetectable presence on an infected machine, have become the weapon of choice for virus and spyware writers and, because they often use kernel hooks to avoid detection, Danseglio said IT administrators may never know if all traces of a rootkit have been successfully removed. He cited a recent instance where an unnamed branch of the U.S. government struggled with malware infestations on more than 2,000 client machines. In that case, it was so severe that trying to recover was meaningless. They did not have an automated process to wipe and rebuild the systems, so it became a burden. They had to design a process real fast, Danseglio added. Danseglio, who delivered two separate presentations at the conference-one on threats and countermeasures to defend against malware infestations in Windows, and the other on the frightening world on Windows rootkits-said anti-virus software is getting better at detecting and removing the latest threats, but for some sophisticated forms of malware, he conceded that the cleanup process is just way too hard. Microsoft says stealth rootkits are bombarding Windows XP SP2 machines. Click here to read more. We've seen the self-healing malware that actually detects that you're trying to get rid of it. You remove it, and the next time you look in that directory, it's sitting there. It can simply reinstall itself, he said. Detection is difficult, and remediation is often impossible, Danseglio declared. If it doesn't crash your system or cause your system to freeze, how do you know it's there? The answer is you just don't know. Lots of times, you never see the infection occur in real time, and you don't see the malware lingering or running in the background. He recommended using PepiMK Software's SpyBot Search Destroy, Mark Russinovich's RootkitRevealer and Microsoft's own Windows Defender, all free utilities that help with malware detection and cleanup, and urged CIOs to take a defense-in-depth approach to preventing infestations. Are virtual machine rootkits the next big threat? Click here to read more. Danseglio said malicious hackers are conducting targeted attacks that are stealthy and effective and warned that the for-profit motive is much more serious than even the destructive network worms of the past. In 2006, the attackers want to pay the rent. They don't want to write a worm that destroys your hardware. They want to assimilate your computers and use them to make money. At Microsoft, we are fielding 2,000 attacks per hour. We are a constant target, and you have to assume your Internet-facing service is also a big target, Danseglio said. Next Page: Human stupidity. Danseglio said the success of social engineering attacks is a sign that the weakest link in malware defense is human stupidity. Social engineering is a very, very effective technique. We have statistics that show significant infection rates for the social engineering malware. Phishing is a major problem because there really is no patch for human stupidity, he said. Ziff Davis Media eSeminars invite: Is your enterprise network truly secure? Join us April 11 at 4 p.m. ET as Akonix demonstrates best practices for neutralizing threats and securing your network. The most recent statistics from Microsoft's anti-malware engineering team confirm Danseglio's contention. In February alone, the company's free Malicious Software Removal Tool detected a social engineering worm called Win32/Alcan on more than 250,000 unique machines. According to Danseglio, user education goes a long way to mitigating the threat from social engineering, but in companies where staff turnover is high, he said a company may never recoup that investment. The easy way to
RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible
As long as there are operating systems that allow people to run applications as ring 0 there will always be social engineering tricks to get a system so messed up re-imaging will be necessary. Supposedly the next version of MS will not allow anymore ring 0 apps unless certified by MS. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington (S) Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:31 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible At 03:04 PM 05/04/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Exactly what we were debating a few weeks ago. Where are those I can clean any infection guys at now? I'm still not convinced that the only response to any infection is a total reinstall. But I haven't read the article completely yet, so perhaps I'll come around. But if MS is right, then it's time for everyone, and I mean everyone, to abandon ship and switch to Apple or *nix now because if the maker of the product says it's unsafe and unfixable, then we are nuts to be using it. T
RE: [H] compile Python script
Maybe I am missing something but you don’t need to compile scripts like python, perl, etc. You just run it in the interperter -Original Message- From: Winterlight[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3/12/06 8:02:47 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] compile Python script How would I compile this Python script ? Thanks - a=IntControl(31,0,0,0,0) ;return list of ids of explorer windows c=ItemCount(a,@TAB) switch c case 0 run(explorer.exe,) while FindWindow(ExploreWClass)==;wait for it to come up Yield end while ;Fall into case 1 case 1 TimeDelay(0.5) run(explorer.exe,) break case c ; 2 or more break endswitch d=1 while c2 d500 a=IntControl(31,0,0,0,0) c=ItemCount(a,@TAB) d=d+1 endwhile if c2 then exit id1=ItemExtract(1,a,@TAB) id2=ItemExtract(2,a,@tab) TimeDelay(0.75) WinPlaceSet(@NORMAL,id2,500 0 1000 900) WinShow(id2) Yield Yield WinPlaceSet(@NORMAL,id1,0 0 500 900) WinShow(id1) exit
RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center
CPU $201 AMD 64 3500+ Venice 1ghz HT Socket 939 Mother Board$103 AOpen nCK804Ua-LFS Video $529 ATI 100-435801 Radeon Memory $281 DDR 400 PC 3200 Hard Drive $109 Western Digital 250GB == Total $1223 Items still left for groups opinions. I mainly want to know the main monitor type you guys use for gaming. Monitor Case Power supply Keyboard Mouse Sound Card -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington (S) Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:39 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] PC for Gaming Center At 07:17 PM 09/03/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Wow ok that's half the price of the intel chip I had on that list. What is a good board and memory to get with that? Computer Cost Breakdown ITEMPRICE Description Monitor $250.00 .25 dot pitch crt Motherboard $200.00 ASUS board CPU $160.00 AMD 3200 Memory $400.00 1 gig rambus Case$100.00 ? Power Supply$100.00 ? Hard Drive $150.00 ? CD/DVD $130.00 ? Keyboard$40.00 Zboard Merc edition Mouse $80.00 Razr gaming mouse Network Card$40.00 Intel Gigabit card Other Hardware OS $100.00 XP Other software $300.00 Top games Total $2,050.00 Ok, here's a possible system: AMD 64 3500+ AOpen nCK804a-LFS Radeon X1900XT 512MB 1 GB PC3200 250GB Western Digital KS DVDR XP Pro You'd need the monitor, etc, but that would bring you in around $1734 CDN /and you'd kick the heck out of Dell's XPS 600. And you be getting two year warranty at a minimum. T
RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center
Oh ooops the memory I saw on new egg was ECC no wonder why it was so damm high. I thought I had completely lost touch with memory prices. CPU $201 AMD 64 3500+ Venice 1ghz HT Socket 939 Mother Board$103 AOpen nCK804Ua-LFS Video $529 ATI 100-435801 Radeon Memory $131 DDR 400 PC 3200 Corsair xms 2x512 Hard Drive $109 Western Digital 250GB == Total $1073 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CW Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 4:32 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center How the hell much memory are you putting in this thing? 4G? 2GB of Corsair even XMS will run you about $170, where did the $281 come from? Yeesh! Otherwise, looks good. -Original message- From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:39:32 -0600 To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center CPU $201 AMD 64 3500+ Venice 1ghz HT Socket 939 Mother Board $103 AOpen nCK804Ua-LFS Video $529 ATI 100-435801 Radeon Memory$281 DDR 400 PC 3200 Hard Drive$109 Western Digital 250GB == Total $1223 Items still left for groups opinions. I mainly want to know the main monitor type you guys use for gaming. Monitor Case Power supply Keyboard Mouse Sound Card -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington (S) Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:39 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] PC for Gaming Center At 07:17 PM 09/03/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Wow ok that's half the price of the intel chip I had on that list. What is a good board and memory to get with that? Computer Cost Breakdown ITEMPRICE Description Monitor $250.00 .25 dot pitch crt Motherboard $200.00 ASUS board CPU $160.00 AMD 3200 Memory $400.00 1 gig rambus Case$100.00 ? Power Supply$100.00 ? Hard Drive $150.00 ? CD/DVD $130.00 ? Keyboard$40.00 Zboard Merc edition Mouse $80.00 Razr gaming mouse Network Card$40.00 Intel Gigabit card Other Hardware OS $100.00 XP Other software $300.00 Top games Total $2,050.00 Ok, here's a possible system: AMD 64 3500+ AOpen nCK804a-LFS Radeon X1900XT 512MB 1 GB PC3200 250GB Western Digital KS DVDR XP Pro You'd need the monitor, etc, but that would bring you in around $1734 CDN /and you'd kick the heck out of Dell's XPS 600. And you be getting two year warranty at a minimum. T
RE: [H] Failure Cars Standard with Wings was....
Not allowing women to wear scarf's to cover their hair while going to school is oppression to me. Especially a country with the majority of its population as muslims. Man this topic sucks so bad this is not the forum for this. How about we all meet up at E3 and see if anyone is in the mood to talk world politics and religion haha. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington (S) Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 12:19 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Failure Cars Standard with Wings was At 02:25 PM 09/03/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Turkey is a great example of religious oppression not religious freedom. Compared to the West, maybe. Compared to all other Muslim countries, it's a shining example. T
RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center
What do you think is a good sweet spot for good performance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:57 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center Intel P4 chips are not the best for top gaming performance. Haven't been for years. If you insist on dual core get an X2, but since this will be pretty much a single app running machine (the game) get the highest clocked A64 you are willing to afford. From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] PC for Gaming Center Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:51:17 -0800 Guys putting together some specs for a PC for a PC Gaming Center. Basically a place for people to go to place pc games like a lan party. Here is a rough estimate I put together I would like everyones input on it specifically on what the best gaming item would be. Also what are the best games on the market and how much are they. Like what would be a good mix of games on a system to get good coverage of whats out in the market. Computer Cost Breakdown ITEM PRICE Description Monitor$250.00 .25 dot pitch crt Motherboard$200.00 ASUS board CPU$400.00 Intel dual core Memory $400.00 1 gig rambus Case $100.00 Aluminum Power Supply $100.00 ? Hard Drive $150.00 ? CD/DVD $130.00 ? Keyboard $40.00 Zboard Merc edition Mouse $80.00 Razr gaming mouse Network Card $40.00 Intel Gigabit card Other Hardware OS $100.00 XP Other software $300.00 Top games(??) Total $2,290.00 Thanks Ali
RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center
Wow ok that's half the price of the intel chip I had on that list. What is a good board and memory to get with that? Computer Cost Breakdown ITEMPRICE Description Monitor $250.00 .25 dot pitch crt Motherboard $200.00 ASUS board CPU $160.00 AMD 3200 Memory $400.00 1 gig rambus Case$100.00 ? Power Supply$100.00 ? Hard Drive $150.00 ? CD/DVD $130.00 ? Keyboard$40.00 Zboard Merc edition Mouse $80.00 Razr gaming mouse Network Card$40.00 Intel Gigabit card Other Hardware OS $100.00 XP Other software $300.00 Top games Total $2,050.00 I got a few questions though. What is a good monitor to go with LCD or CRT? Whats a good case and power supply? What about hard drive? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:06 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center Any Rev E past 2.0Ghz (actual speed) will get you flying. I'd start with the 3200 (priced under $160) and go from there. Of course there's overclocking, but I don't meddle in that. It's better to get the fastest 7900GTX/X1900XTX $500+ PCIe card than divert money to higher mhz if you want to maximize framerate per buck. From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:58:28 -0800 What do you think is a good sweet spot for good performance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:57 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center Intel P4 chips are not the best for top gaming performance. Haven't been for years. If you insist on dual core get an X2, but since this will be pretty much a single app running machine (the game) get the highest clocked A64 you are willing to afford. From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] PC for Gaming Center Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:51:17 -0800 Guys putting together some specs for a PC for a PC Gaming Center. Basically a place for people to go to place pc games like a lan party. Here is a rough estimate I put together I would like everyones input on it specifically on what the best gaming item would be. Also what are the best games on the market and how much are they. Like what would be a good mix of games on a system to get good coverage of whats out in the market. Computer Cost Breakdown ITEM PRICE Description Monitor $250.00 .25 dot pitch crt Motherboard $200.00 ASUS board CPU $400.00 Intel dual core Memory $400.00 1 gig rambus Case $100.00 Aluminum Power Supply $100.00 ? Hard Drive $150.00 ? CD/DVD $130.00 ? Keyboard $40.00 Zboard Merc edition Mouse$80.00 Razr gaming mouse Network Card $40.00 Intel Gigabit card Other Hardware OS $100.00 XP Other software $300.00 Top games(??) Total$2,290.00 Thanks Ali
RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center
Those are actually some good questions. That's kinda why I want the collective to help me out here because I haven't played a video game in about 5 years on a PC. Duh I cant believe I forgot the video card. Whats a good one to go with these days? And I don't need a separate network card just put it in here. I was considering flat panels but how are they for gaming? Headphones will be used for sound. And are these Dells really worth it? Are the legit good gaming PC's? They use media center PC is that the best os for gaming? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:17 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] PC for Gaming Center Do you need a separate network card? How much space will there be? For a center, I'd consider flat-panels. Are you going to use headphones for sound? Your vidcard will add to the cost, and what about UPS. Why not just buy a fleet of these Dell Hard Core Gaming rigs http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/gaming_xpsdt?c=us cs=19l=ens=dhs :) Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Wow ok that's half the price of the intel chip I had on that list. What is a good board and memory to get with that? Computer Cost Breakdown ITEM PRICE Description Monitor $250.00 .25 dot pitch crt Motherboard $200.00 ASUS board CPU $160.00 AMD 3200 Memory$400.00 1 gig rambus Case $100.00 ? Power Supply $100.00 ? Hard Drive$150.00 ? CD/DVD$130.00 ? Keyboard $40.00 Zboard Merc edition Mouse $80.00 Razr gaming mouse Network Card $40.00 Intel Gigabit card Other Hardware OS$100.00 XP Other software$300.00 Top games Total $2,050.00 I got a few questions though. What is a good monitor to go with LCD or CRT? Whats a good case and power supply? What about hard drive? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:06 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center Any Rev E past 2.0Ghz (actual speed) will get you flying. I'd start with the 3200 (priced under $160) and go from there. Of course there's overclocking, but I don't meddle in that. It's better to get the fastest 7900GTX/X1900XTX $500+ PCIe card than divert money to higher mhz if you want to maximize framerate per buck. From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:58:28 -0800 What do you think is a good sweet spot for good performance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:57 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center Intel P4 chips are not the best for top gaming performance. Haven't been for years. If you insist on dual core get an X2, but since this will be pretty much a single app running machine (the game) get the highest clocked A64 you are willing to afford. From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] PC for Gaming Center Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:51:17 -0800 Guys putting together some specs for a PC for a PC Gaming Center. Basically a place for people to go to place pc games like a lan party. Here is a rough estimate I put together I would like everyones input on it specifically on what the best gaming item would be. Also what are the best games on the market and how much are they. Like what would be a good mix of games on a system to get good coverage of whats out in the market. Computer Cost Breakdown ITEMPRICE Description Monitor $250.00 .25 dot pitch crt Motherboard $200.00 ASUS board CPU $400.00 Intel dual core Memory $400.00 1 gig rambus Case$100.00 Aluminum Power Supply$100.00 ? Hard Drive $150.00 ? CD/DVD $130.00 ? Keyboard$40.00 Zboard Merc edition Mouse $80.00 Razr gaming mouse Network Card$40.00 Intel Gigabit card Other Hardware OS $100.00 XP Other software $300.00 Top games(??) Total $2,290.00 Thanks Ali
RE: [H] READ! was Failure Cars Standard with Wings was....
THANK YOU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Edwards Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:47 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] READ! was Failure Cars Standard with Wings was DYE DYE DYE DYE DYE DYE End of thread. Thank you
RE: [H] PC for Gaming Center
Now for hard drives is the 10k rpm sata drives the best? Also what would you guys suggest for reimagining software. I would imagine reimaging these machines atleast once in the morning and possibly twice a day depending on performance and stuff. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington (S) Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:39 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] PC for Gaming Center At 07:17 PM 09/03/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Wow ok that's half the price of the intel chip I had on that list. What is a good board and memory to get with that? Computer Cost Breakdown ITEMPRICE Description Monitor $250.00 .25 dot pitch crt Motherboard $200.00 ASUS board CPU $160.00 AMD 3200 Memory $400.00 1 gig rambus Case$100.00 ? Power Supply$100.00 ? Hard Drive $150.00 ? CD/DVD $130.00 ? Keyboard$40.00 Zboard Merc edition Mouse $80.00 Razr gaming mouse Network Card$40.00 Intel Gigabit card Other Hardware OS $100.00 XP Other software $300.00 Top games Total $2,050.00 Ok, here's a possible system: AMD 64 3500+ AOpen nCK804a-LFS Radeon X1900XT 512MB 1 GB PC3200 250GB Western Digital KS DVDR XP Pro You'd need the monitor, etc, but that would bring you in around $1734 CDN /and you'd kick the heck out of Dell's XPS 600. And you be getting two year warranty at a minimum. T
Re: [H] Antivirus
Where did you hear that because its definitely not the case -Original Message- From: Greg Sevart[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3/3/06 10:16:07 AM To: The Hardware Listhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Antivirus I can confirm. SAV-CE is a completely different codebase from the crap consumer grade stuff that is Norton branded. 10.0.2 is taking 33MB of memory on thix box (I have 2GB), which I don't consider very bad. I still argue it is among (if not the) best AV scanner available--it just isn't available to the average consumer. Most people (for good reason) hate the Norton consumer stuff, and assume that the corporate stuff is related...but nothing could be further from the truth. Interestingly, I've heard that SAV-CE10 also is the most effective malware scanner out there--but it runs slower than anything else at this task. Greg - Original Message - From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus The latest Symantec AntiVirus corporate edition client (10.0.2.2020) takes about 30MB of memory footprint these days. It does however do a much better job than the retail home user version (norton), however it will get more false positives. From: Jin-Wei Tioh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:54:49 -0600 At 02:28 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote: Norton is definitely not even close to kaspersky in detection accuracy. Not to mention that it seems to be more resource heavy. Always hated the startup time degradations with Norton. Much improved after I switched to Kaspersky. -- JW
RE: [H] Antivirus
Well I see malware daily as part of my job and I see the results of AV vendors against those pieces of malware and Symantec is terrible from what I have seen. And what I have seen is definitely things in the wild regardless if its on the wild list or not. And like I said earlier scanning a system for malware and seeing which vendors catch what is not a very accurate test because you actually don't know what is on the system and how many pieces of malware are there. So the fact that some other scanner caught 10 and then Symantec comes and finds 2 is not good because you don't know if both scanners are missing 100 pieces of malware. You only know what the scanners are reporting to you and there has even been a controversy in that because some scanners report false positives on purpose so that their scanning can seem more accurate. But that happens more with the anti spyware scanners. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:10 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Antivirus Have you used it? It has caught malware on my machines that many of the other popular anti-spyware tools missed... That test link someone provided also shows it does a nice job at anti-malware. So, care to qualify your statement? - Original Message - From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [H] Antivirus Where did you hear that because its definitely not the case -Original Message- From: Greg Sevart[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3/3/06 10:16:07 AM To: The Hardware Listhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Antivirus I can confirm. SAV-CE is a completely different codebase from the crap consumer grade stuff that is Norton branded. 10.0.2 is taking 33MB of memory on thix box (I have 2GB), which I don't consider very bad. I still argue it is among (if not the) best AV scanner available--it just isn't available to the average consumer. Most people (for good reason) hate the Norton consumer stuff, and assume that the corporate stuff is related...but nothing could be further from the truth. Interestingly, I've heard that SAV-CE10 also is the most effective malware scanner out there--but it runs slower than anything else at this task. Greg - Original Message - From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus The latest Symantec AntiVirus corporate edition client (10.0.2.2020) takes about 30MB of memory footprint these days. It does however do a much better job than the retail home user version (norton), however it will get more false positives. From: Jin-Wei Tioh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:54:49 -0600 At 02:28 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote: Norton is definitely not even close to kaspersky in detection accuracy. Not to mention that it seems to be more resource heavy. Always hated the startup time degradations with Norton. Much improved after I switched to Kaspersky. -- JW
RE: [H] Antivirus
We use the most up to date av products -Original Message- From: Hayes Elkins[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3/3/06 9:04:12 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.comhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus v10.0.2? (there is a significant difference in 10 vs the past versions) From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:39:00 -0800 Yes it's the corporate edition -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hayes Elkins Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 4:28 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus Are you specifically testing SAVCE, not Norton AV, but the latest SAVCE client v10.0.2? From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:59:55 -0800 Well I see malware daily as part of my job and I see the results of AV vendors against those pieces of malware and Symantec is terrible from what I have seen. And what I have seen is definitely things in the wild regardless if its on the wild list or not. And like I said earlier scanning a system for malware and seeing which vendors catch what is not a very accurate test because you actually don't know what is on the system and how many pieces of malware are there. So the fact that some other scanner caught 10 and then Symantec comes and finds 2 is not good because you don't know if both scanners are missing 100 pieces of malware. You only know what the scanners are reporting to you and there has even been a controversy in that because some scanners report false positives on purpose so that their scanning can seem more accurate. But that happens more with the anti spyware scanners. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:10 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Antivirus Have you used it? It has caught malware on my machines that many of the other popular anti-spyware tools missed... That test link someone provided also shows it does a nice job at anti-malware. So, care to qualify your statement? - Original Message - From: Mesdaq, Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [H] Antivirus Where did you hear that because its definitely not the case -Original Message- From: Greg Sevart[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3/3/06 10:16:07 AM To: The Hardware Listhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Antivirus I can confirm. SAV-CE is a completely different codebase from the crap consumer grade stuff that is Norton branded. 10.0.2 is taking 33MB of memory on thix box (I have 2GB), which I don't consider very bad. I still argue it is among (if not the) best AV scanner available--it just isn't available to the average consumer. Most people (for good reason) hate the Norton consumer stuff, and assume that the corporate stuff is related...but nothing could be further from the truth. Interestingly, I've heard that SAV-CE10 also is the most effective malware scanner out there--but it runs slower than anything else at this task. Greg - Original Message - From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:18 AM Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus The latest Symantec AntiVirus corporate edition client (10.0.2.2020) takes about 30MB of memory footprint these days. It does however do a much better job than the retail home user version (norton), however it will get more false positives. From: Jin-Wei Tioh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:54:49 -0600 At 02:28 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote: Norton is definitely not even close to kaspersky in detection accuracy. Not to mention that it seems to be more resource heavy. Always hated the startup time degradations with Norton. Much improved after I switched to Kaspersky. -- JW
RE: [H] Antivirus
I am not quite sure what is on the wild list but we get stuff in our honeypot which is definitely in the wild and compare that against most vendors 60% is pretty accurate. I mean a piece of malware usually is covered by at least one vendor but no one vendor covers most malware that good. You should also be careful with which files you copy over. I would say if your checking email and someone sends you a file and its non executable that's ok to copy over if you scan it on www.virustotal.com . You really can't trust a machine that is completely exposed for a unknown amount of time. But if you have a vmware image that you know is clean and you start it up and you know you haven't run any rouge processes then that's a lot more trust worthy. Of course its still possible you could have been infected with a worm exploiting a backdoor but chances are very low for that. Oh by the way vmware has free software for desktops now so everyone should be running a vmware session for all their other stuff. Maybe even run a linux desktop and windows in a vmware session. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington (S) Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:53 AM To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus At 12:42 AM 02/03/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Oh I love these types of topics. Right off the bat I would say there is NO AV that gives that great of coverage. Kaspersky(verified) has good coverage and NOD32(unverified) has good coverage. The bad part is even of these good AV vendors their coverage is maybe 60%. What is So you're saying that the Wildlist isn't an accurate count of the viruses out there? always revert your images to a clean state after. And only copy files over when you're totally sure they are clean How can I be totally sure they are clean if the AV software is only 60%? Do you have some suggestions for looking at all the processes on a computer and finding out what they are? T
RE: [H] Antivirus
Well if it were feasible to do that I personally would run kaspersky, nod32, trend, and bit defender. But I rather approach it like don’t run anything unless I want it to run. But I am not sure av can live happily together on the same machine -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington (S)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3/2/06 10:27:49 AM To: The Hardware Listhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus At 02:15 PM 02/03/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: I am not quite sure what is on the wild list but we get stuff in our honeypot which is definitely in the wild and compare that against most vendors 60% is pretty accurate. I mean a piece of malware usually is covered by at least one vendor but no one vendor covers most malware that good. So you're saying that if I ran enough different AVs, then at least one of them would catch the Malware? Which AVs would you recommend running? T
RE: [H] Antivirus
Norton is definitely not even close to kaspersky in detection accuracy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:20 PM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:18 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Antivirus Well if it were feasible to do that I personally would run kaspersky, nod32, trend, and bit defender. But I rather approach it like don't run anything unless I want it to run. But I am not sure av can live happily together on the same machine Running more than one AV engine on machine is not advisable. There is no significant evidence that I've found that running multiple scanners provides better protection. But even if it did, the performance degradation on a machine running multiple AV engines is significant. Google that one and read some of the stories. http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/231316555206 For the last several years, it's been a horse race between Kaspersky, NOD32 and Norton. They are neck and neck, while many feel NOD32 offers slightly better virus detection while of the three, Kaspersky has the best Trojan detection. Here's the February 2006 AV Comparatives: http://www.av-comparatives.org/seiten/ergebnisse_2006_02.php Bill
[H] Some stats about infected machines
Here is a quote from a white paper from the University of Washington. In the span of just a few years, spyware has become the Internet's most popular download. A recent scan performed by AOL/NCSA of 329 customers' computers found that 80% were infected with spyware programs [2]. More shocking, each infected computer contained an average of 93 spyware components. The consequences of spyware infections can be severe, including inundating the victim with pop-up ads, stealing the victim's financial information or passwords, or rendering the victim's computer useless. I only mention this because of our recent conversation about tools and philosophy about infected machines. Now I don't know about the rest of you but I don't feel like hunting down 93 components and cleaning that out. But when we discussed cleaning vs reformatting I want to make clear that I only would reformat on an end users computer that was not under my control. If I had a computer that got infected with something that was very specific and I knew there was only one piece of malware on it then I would definitely prefer cleaning rather than reformatting. It's only in cases where the computer has been infected for long periods of time and was never protected to begin with. The white paper is good and is the type of projects we work on at work. Pretty fun stuff you can read the paper here http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/gribble/papers/spycrawler.pdf
RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation
Because I have gotten pieces of malware and checked against virustotal and no on got it but reverse engineering it showed it was definitely a virus -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington (S)[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2/13/06 6:41:54 AM To: The Hardware Listhardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Suggested tools for helping a friend with badvirus infestation At 10:03 AM 13/02/2006, Mesdaq, Ali wrote: Its not a company I work for its a tool we use. You can upload a file and check it against all av pretty sad coverage because no av ever gets it all or even close How do you know that? According to their charts, it appears that if they scan with all the AVs then then catch all the malware, but no one program gets them all. T
