Re: [H] Odd Windows 7 issue
I've had this happen on three different computers now. One had hard drive issues, the others didn't. If I have time, I may run a test on a known good computer. So far the only solution has been nuke and pave. Thanks for all the suggestions. On 24/09/2019 5:23 p.m., Joe User wrote: You checked the drive for damage? On 9/24/2019 3:09 PM, Thane K. Sherrington wrote: I've run into this a few times before - the computer boots to Windows but there are no icons (but the text heading for the icons appear). The start menu doesn't. I've always fixed this with a repair install/inplace upgrade but this time this hangs at "collecting files". I believe it's related to damage in the Default User folder. Any ideas how to fix it?
Re: [H] Odd Windows 7 issue
I have seen this only once in Windows 7 Pro. I used: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2635447/how-to-resolve-an-issue-where-all-windows-7-desktop-icons-have-become This worked for us. The IconCache file gets corrupted and it created this problem. Tim Lider Red Belt Arnis de Mano https://www.facebook.com/CardenasArnis -Original Message- From: Hardware On Behalf Of Thane K. Sherrington Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:09 PM To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] Odd Windows 7 issue I've run into this a few times before - the computer boots to Windows but there are no icons (but the text heading for the icons appear). The start menu doesn't. I've always fixed this with a repair install/inplace upgrade but this time this hangs at "collecting files". I believe it's related to damage in the Default User folder. Any ideas how to fix it? T
Re: [H] Odd Windows 7 issue
You checked the drive for damage? On 9/24/2019 3:09 PM, Thane K. Sherrington wrote: > I've run into this a few times before - the computer boots to Windows > but there are no icons (but the text heading for the icons appear). The > start menu doesn't. > > I've always fixed this with a repair install/inplace upgrade but this > time this hangs at "collecting files". > > I believe it's related to damage in the Default User folder. > > Any ideas how to fix it?
[H] Odd Windows 7 issue
I've run into this a few times before - the computer boots to Windows but there are no icons (but the text heading for the icons appear). The start menu doesn't. I've always fixed this with a repair install/inplace upgrade but this time this hangs at "collecting files". I believe it's related to damage in the Default User folder. Any ideas how to fix it? T
Re: [H] Odd Windows 7 problem
On 07/09/2016 3:00 PM, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: I had that happen frequently on one computer and eventually found a fix script that I would run then reboot and would all be fixed. I think it was related to corruption of the icon cache or something similar. Well, I tried the rebuild iconcache script, which basically deletes iconcache.db from the %localcappdata%, but the iconcache.db doesn't regenerate and the problem persists. I also tried installing the latest Intel video driver, but no change. T
Re: [H] Odd Windows 7 problem
I had that happen frequently on one computer and eventually found a fix script that I would run then reboot and would all be fixed. I think it was related to corruption of the icon cache or something similar. lopaka From: Thane Sherrington <th...@computerconnectionltd.com> To: "hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com" <hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:36 AM Subject: [H] Odd Windows 7 problem I've run into this a few times, and each time I've been forced to do a repair install to fix it. This time, repair install isn't working, so I'm digging deeper. Here's the problem. On Windows 7 Home and Pro systems, occasionally they will boot up to a desktop with no icons, but the icon labels are visible. When I click the start button, it depresses, but the Start Menu doesn't appear. I can open Task Manager by right clicking the Start Menu or by using Ctrl-Shift-Esc and then I can open a command prompt. I can open Control Panel from the command prompt, but all the icons are missing (although the labels are visible) and I can use the search box to open Control Panel applets. Here's what I've tried so far: 1)Repair install/Inplace Upgrade from the DVD. This works for the first reboot, but after a few reboots, the problem returns. 2)System Restore - I've gone back to a known good restore point, but the problem remains (so no icons when System Restore reboots). 3)SFC /scannow - says it has made changes, but no icons on reboot. 4)Created a new user profile - no change in that profile. 5)Boot to safe mode - no change. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Out of interest, I think the problem may be related to Visual C++ 2013 redistributable, since on this computer, it installed just before the problem started. I tried repairing it, but there was no change. I'm running another SFC before I remove Visual C++ 2013 redistributable. T
[H] Odd Windows 7 problem
I've run into this a few times, and each time I've been forced to do a repair install to fix it. This time, repair install isn't working, so I'm digging deeper. Here's the problem. On Windows 7 Home and Pro systems, occasionally they will boot up to a desktop with no icons, but the icon labels are visible. When I click the start button, it depresses, but the Start Menu doesn't appear. I can open Task Manager by right clicking the Start Menu or by using Ctrl-Shift-Esc and then I can open a command prompt. I can open Control Panel from the command prompt, but all the icons are missing (although the labels are visible) and I can use the search box to open Control Panel applets. Here's what I've tried so far: 1)Repair install/Inplace Upgrade from the DVD. This works for the first reboot, but after a few reboots, the problem returns. 2)System Restore - I've gone back to a known good restore point, but the problem remains (so no icons when System Restore reboots). 3)SFC /scannow - says it has made changes, but no icons on reboot. 4)Created a new user profile - no change in that profile. 5)Boot to safe mode - no change. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Out of interest, I think the problem may be related to Visual C++ 2013 redistributable, since on this computer, it installed just before the problem started. I tried repairing it, but there was no change. I'm running another SFC before I remove Visual C++ 2013 redistributable. T
[H] Odd thing with a rental computer
I have a computer that was a rent to buy machine. It's paid for, but is suddenly booting up (as soon as I press CTRL-ALT-DEL to login) with a Trilock Plus screen (red screen) telling me the computer has been locked because a virus has been detected. I don't think that's the case, but I can't figure out what file is running to bring up the screen. Winlogon looks normal, as does Explorer.exe. What runs that early in the boot process? The run entries in the registry appear clean as well. I'm assuming it's a service, but so far I'm not sure which one. T
Re: [H] Odd thing with a rental computer
Have you talked to the rent to own place ? From what I can see, they probably were the ones that put Trilock Plus on the PC. RegardsGary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:40 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Odd thing with a rental computer I have a computer that was a rent to buy machine. It's paid for, but is suddenly booting up (as soon as I press CTRL-ALT-DEL to login) with a Trilock Plus screen (red screen) telling me the computer has been locked because a virus has been detected. I don't think that's the case, but I can't figure out what file is running to bring up the screen. Winlogon looks normal, as does Explorer.exe. What runs that early in the boot process? The run entries in the registry appear clean as well. I'm assuming it's a service, but so far I'm not sure which one. T
Re: [H] Odd thing with a rental computer
Yeah, without knowing exactly what the software is your options seem limited to contacting the place he bought the machine and/or doing a backup of important data and nuking it and installing a known good OS image. On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Gary Jackson gjack...@visi.com wrote: Have you talked to the rent to own place ? From what I can see, they probably were the ones that put Trilock Plus on the PC. RegardsGary -Original Message- From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:40 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Odd thing with a rental computer I have a computer that was a rent to buy machine. It's paid for, but is suddenly booting up (as soon as I press CTRL-ALT-DEL to login) with a Trilock Plus screen (red screen) telling me the computer has been locked because a virus has been detected. I don't think that's the case, but I can't figure out what file is running to bring up the screen. Winlogon looks normal, as does Explorer.exe. What runs that early in the boot process? The run entries in the registry appear clean as well. I'm assuming it's a service, but so far I'm not sure which one. T
Re: [H] Odd thing with a rental computer
At 04:07 PM 04/11/2014, Gary Jackson wrote: Have you talked to the rent to own place ? From what I can see, they probably were the ones that put Trilock Plus on the PC. They don't have a technician in town until next week. Plus I was interested in seeing if I could bypass it. :) I figured it's unlikely some two bit rent to own chain could out-think the collective. :) T
Re: [H] Odd Win7 problem
So you mean literally GUI explorer.exe opens or do you mean a text DOS box? So you type CMD, into StartSearch, does that return Programs(1)-D.exe under ? Does right clicking the result choosing Run as Administrator work? On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 04:05 PM 28/08/2014, Thane Sherrington wrote: To make this more interesting, typing command or command.exe and then pressing CTRL-SHIFT-Enter does open an elevated prompt. But cmd or cmd.exe doesn't. Very odd. Whoops. command CTRL-SHIFT-Enter works. Everything else cmd, cmd.exe, and command.exe all bring up an explorer window showing c:\windows\system32. T
Re: [H] Odd Win7 problem
At 04:10 PM 23/09/2014, Joshua MacCraw wrote: So you mean literally GUI explorer.exe opens or do you mean a text DOS box? So you type CMD, into StartSearch, does that return Programs(1)-D.exe under ? Does right clicking the result choosing Run as Administrator work? Here's what happens: I type cmd - CMD shows up at the top of the MRU list on the Start Menu. I can right click that and run as Administrator and it works fine. If I type cmd and press enter, I get a regular command prompt (non-elevated). If I type cmd and press ctrl-shift-enter, I get a Windows Explorer window (the GUI) showing me c:\windows\system32. - I should get an elevated command prompt. If I type command and press ctrl-shift-enter I get and elevated command prompt. I've seen this on both Vista and 7 machines, and I've tried playing with UAC, and running sfc /scannow. No change. I posted it on the MS Windows 7 help forums, but the best answer the MVPs there could come up with was to create a shortcut to open CMD as elevated, which isn't a fix. Anyway, very odd. From the user's point of view, it doesn't matter, because they never do this anyway, but I hate little twitchy things in Windows because it makes me think something bigger is lurking. T
Re: [H] Odd Win7 problem
Interesting! It's almost as if CMD spawns as CMD /c Start %windir%\system32, which of course means then cmd terminates leaving a copy of explorer.exe. The path is right, I end up in a dos shell there when I do elevated cmd. Maybe look into these registry keys since they seem to modify what CMD does. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor\AutoRun HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Command Processor\AutoRun Sysinternals Process Explorer might give insights on what actually is being spawned. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 04:10 PM 23/09/2014, Joshua MacCraw wrote: So you mean literally GUI explorer.exe opens or do you mean a text DOS box? So you type CMD, into StartSearch, does that return Programs(1)-D.exe under ? Does right clicking the result choosing Run as Administrator work? Here's what happens: I type cmd - CMD shows up at the top of the MRU list on the Start Menu. I can right click that and run as Administrator and it works fine. If I type cmd and press enter, I get a regular command prompt (non-elevated). If I type cmd and press ctrl-shift-enter, I get a Windows Explorer window (the GUI) showing me c:\windows\system32. - I should get an elevated command prompt. If I type command and press ctrl-shift-enter I get and elevated command prompt. I've seen this on both Vista and 7 machines, and I've tried playing with UAC, and running sfc /scannow. No change. I posted it on the MS Windows 7 help forums, but the best answer the MVPs there could come up with was to create a shortcut to open CMD as elevated, which isn't a fix. Anyway, very odd. From the user's point of view, it doesn't matter, because they never do this anyway, but I hate little twitchy things in Windows because it makes me think something bigger is lurking. T
[H] Odd problem with pictures
My nephew has a computer on which a bunch the photos (which he used to view in Picasa) suddenly disappeared from there. If I go into the Libraries and do a search for picasa, I can see all the pictures, but I can't open them. Here's the strange part, the folder heading says they are in: 2007-04-08 (c:\users\xxx\Desktop\backup\HP_Administrator\local settings\temp\Picasa2\CD_Prep_1\Pictures) The date at the beginning changes, but the rest stays the same. If I go to the cmd prompt, I can go as far as: c:\users\xxx\Desktop\backup\HP_Administrator\local settings\temp But the temp folder is empty. If I select a picture or group of pictures, I can copy it (at least, Windows doesn't complete about Organize, Copy) but when I paste it elsewhere, nothing happens. I'm assuming that the files are in a compressed folder or temporary folder somewhere, but I can't find them by doing a dir [filename] /s from the root of C:. Something tells me that this is really obvious, and I'm missing something simple, but I can't figure it out (I'm also working on this remotely over a shitty Internet connection). Any ideas? T
[H] Odd behavior?
Yes, I still run WinXP temporarily... :( I have a PC that trys to boot up, seems to load the OS, but stops at a black screen that says, 1. AutoDetect Then the PC goes to 'sleep,' I think, with a new blank black screen. Never do get to Login screen. A warm reboot nets the same. A cold reboot nets the same. What is going on. Did M$ start early? Well fine. This PC is do for a complete guts rebuild for Win8.1. Maybe it is now time? Thanks, Duncan
[H] Odd hard drive issue
I have a WD SATA drive that passes all SMART tests, and appears to work fine, but when I cold boot, it doesn't detect (and I get a boot disk error). If I immediately warm boot, it detects and boots up fine. It does this in two PCs, so it's the drive, not the machine. Any ideas? T
Re: [H] Odd hard drive issue
Most new bios let you adjust the wait time for the drive to respond. Try increasing the time until it detects correctly each time. I had a SSD that used to do that and that's how I fixed it. If not that, drives probably going south. lopaka From: Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tue, May 28, 2013 11:04:56 AM Subject: [H] Odd hard drive issue I have a WD SATA drive that passes all SMART tests, and appears to work fine, but when I cold boot, it doesn't detect (and I get a boot disk error). If I immediately warm boot, it detects and boots up fine. It does this in two PCs, so it's the drive, not the machine. Any ideas? T
Re: [H] Odd hard drive issue
Hello Thane, I see this a lot. It could either be that it is taking longer to calibrate and go ready, if this is happening replace it quickly. Another thing is that the power supply is not powering the hard drive enough on the first boot after power is turned on. This is one of the most problems that do occur with hard drives. I would check the power supply to see if it is sending enough Amps to the HD during initial Boot. This means the DC +12v and +5v could be good, just not enough amps to turn on the HD correctly. Good luck, On May 28, 2013 at 11:03 AM Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: I have a WD SATA drive that passes all SMART tests, and appears to work fine, but when I cold boot, it doesn't detect (and I get a boot disk error). If I immediately warm boot, it detects and boots up fine. It does this in two PCs, so it's the drive, not the machine. Any ideas? T Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com timli...@adv-data.com
Re: [H] Odd hard drive issue
At 04:10 PM 28/05/2013, Robert Martin Jr. wrote: Most new bios let you adjust the wait time for the drive to respond. Try increasing the time until it detects correctly each time. I had a SSD that used to do that and that's how I fixed it. If not that, drives probably going south. Hi Lopaka, On the two machines, one doesn't have a wait time option, but the other does. No change when I lengthen it. I think the drive is going. T
Re: [H] Odd hard drive issue
At 05:02 PM 28/05/2013, Tim Lider wrote: Hello Thane, I see this a lot. It could either be that it is taking longer to calibrate and go ready, if this is happening replace it quickly. Another thing is that the power supply is not powering the hard drive enough on the first boot after power is turned on. This is one of the most problems that do occur with hard drives. I would check the power supply to see if it is sending enough Amps to the HD during initial Boot. This means the DC +12v and +5v could be good, just not enough amps to turn on the HD correctly. Hi Tim, Two machines, and both power supplies power up other HDs fine, so I think it's the drive. Thanks for the advice. T
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
At 12:01 AM 22/05/2010, DSinc wrote: You always do share good problems! Do you perhaps have ash fallout from the Iceland volcano ATM? If so, all bets are off... :) Not yet. :) Wrong side of the Atlantic. I do hear that it reached NFLD at one point. T
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
On Friday 21 May 2010 22:59:23 Scoobydo wrote: If you've had experience of several bad CPU's then you must be a system builder with hundreds of builds under your belt. I'm just a hobbyist and have only built 20 or so boxes over the years and I've never even heard of anyone having a CPU go bad until you said it. Bad mobo's, PSU's, hardrives, floppies, optical drives, video cards, RAM, fans etc. I've seen it all with the single exception of the processor. CPU's are by far the most reliable component of any PC, period. Intel and AMD deserve great respect for that major accomplishment. Of course static electricity can kill one pretty easily but that's not going bad, that's user error. Somewhere in this area in a land fill is my original IBM PS/2 486 SX-25 and I'd bet anything that if it were buried functional with no bent or broken pins it would still run if socketed in a working box. I really believe that.. With 40+ years as a hardware engineer you see all kinds of strange things. The first bad cpu I ever saw was dropped on the floor and the chappie that dropped it straightened the pins and put in into service (circa 8088/86 Linotype character and font generator 8 floppy drives, two of them). The characters produced had weird distortions. It took days to find that one and two minutes to fix it. The original technician admitted what he had done when it was proved to be the cpu. The other suggestion I would make is to check the BIOS beep codes to see what the beep code means. I note that no one has commented on using the beep codes as a pointer to a possible MB/CPU fault. -- Best Regards: Derrick. Running Open SuSE 11.1 KDE 3.5.10 Desktop. Pontefract Linux Users Group. plug @ play-net.co.uk
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
On Saturday 22 May 2010 03:24:27 DSinc wrote: Scoobydo, If I dig in by bone pile I could offer you a brand new old stock and only use once, spare for your current P2-333. I bought mine because it had some special S-Spec #. If interested, I can share critical numbers. I've just binned around 400+ SIL CPU for scrap metal. -- Best Regards: Derrick. Running Open SuSE 11.1 KDE 3.5.10 Desktop. Pontefract Linux Users Group. plug @ play-net.co.uk
[H] Odd CPU issue
I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a ADA4200IAA5CU in it http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%20ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%20ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine. Any ideas? T
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
On Fri, 21 May 2010, Thane Sherrington wrote: I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a ADA4200IAA5CU in it http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%20ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%20ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine. BIOS? Do the CPU's expect different voltages that the bad board isn't supplying correctly? Switch power supply on the one it doesn't boot with and test? Christopher Fisk -- Leela: Bender, maybe you can interface with the Femputer and reprogram it to let them go. Bender: Maybe you can interface with my ass... by biting it.
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
At 09:22 AM 21/05/2010, Christopher Fisk wrote: BIOS? Trying that right now. Do the CPU's expect different voltages that the bad board isn't supplying correctly? Switch power supply on the one it doesn't boot with and test? Good idea. I'll try that. T
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume something else is happening.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 06:24:39 -0500, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a ADA4200IAA5CU in it http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%20ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%20ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine. Any ideas? T -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
On Friday 21 May 2010 15:02:35 Scoobydo wrote: I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume something else is happening.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 06:24:39 -0500, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a ADA4200IAA5CU in it http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%2 0ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%2 0ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine. Any ideas? T I've had experience of several bad CPU. Having said that, and in view of the tests that the OP has done, BIOS settings are the first place to check. The other is the CPU psu itself. I've seen bad capacitors cause the psu to shut down on heavy load but supply power just fine to a lighter load, ie a CPU that draws less power. The other suggestion I would make is to check the BIOS beep codes to see what the beep code means. -- Best Regards: Derrick. Running Open SuSE 11.1 KDE 3.5.10 Desktop. Pontefract Linux Users Group. plug @ play-net.co.uk
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
If you've had experience of several bad CPU's then you must be a system builder with hundreds of builds under your belt. I'm just a hobbyist and have only built 20 or so boxes over the years and I've never even heard of anyone having a CPU go bad until you said it. Bad mobo's, PSU's, hardrives, floppies, optical drives, video cards, RAM, fans etc. I've seen it all with the single exception of the processor. CPU's are by far the most reliable component of any PC, period. Intel and AMD deserve great respect for that major accomplishment. Of course static electricity can kill one pretty easily but that's not going bad, that's user error. Somewhere in this area in a land fill is my original IBM PS/2 486 SX-25 and I'd bet anything that if it were buried functional with no bent or broken pins it would still run if socketed in a working box. I really believe that.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 14:09:01 -0500, Gaffer 14...@castle-computer.co.uk wrote: On Friday 21 May 2010 15:02:35 Scoobydo wrote: I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume something else is happening.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 06:24:39 -0500, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a ADA4200IAA5CU in it http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%2 0ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%2 0ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine. Any ideas? T I've had experience of several bad CPU. Having said that, and in view of the tests that the OP has done, BIOS settings are the first place to check. The other is the CPU psu itself. I've seen bad capacitors cause the psu to shut down on heavy load but supply power just fine to a lighter load, ie a CPU that draws less power. The other suggestion I would make is to check the BIOS beep codes to see what the beep code means. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
I've seen at least 5-6 CPU's go bad. Sometimes it's just the cache memory and sometimes the processor. Old athlons would fry pretty quick if the CPU fan goes bad often just within a few minutes. I've probably built or repaired 500+ systems just as a hobbyist. I used to average 3-4 full systems a week back in the old days. Now that I don't have a lot of time, I've probably done new boxes 3 this month. lopaka From: Scoobydo swza...@yahoo.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:59:23 PM Subject: Re: [H] Odd CPU issue If you've had experience of several bad CPU's then you must be a system builder with hundreds of builds under your belt. I'm just a hobbyist and have only built 20 or so boxes over the years and I've never even heard of anyone having a CPU go bad until you said it. Bad mobo's, PSU's, hardrives, floppies, optical drives, video cards, RAM, fans etc. I've seen it all with the single exception of the processor. CPU's are by far the most reliable component of any PC, period. Intel and AMD deserve great respect for that major accomplishment. Of course static electricity can kill one pretty easily but that's not going bad, that's user error. Somewhere in this area in a land fill is my original IBM PS/2 486 SX-25 and I'd bet anything that if it were buried functional with no bent or broken pins it would still run if socketed in a working box. I really believe that.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 14:09:01 -0500, Gaffer 14...@castle-computer.co.uk wrote: On Friday 21 May 2010 15:02:35 Scoobydo wrote: I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume something else is happening.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 06:24:39 -0500, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a ADA4200IAA5CU in it http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%2 0ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%2 0ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine. Any ideas? T I've had experience of several bad CPU. Having said that, and in view of the tests that the OP has done, BIOS settings are the first place to check. The other is the CPU psu itself. I've seen bad capacitors cause the psu to shut down on heavy load but supply power just fine to a lighter load, ie a CPU that draws less power. The other suggestion I would make is to check the BIOS beep codes to see what the beep code means. --Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
Clearly you have more experience than me but you did say gone bad because of overheating right? Most components I've had go bad did so for no apparent reason. They just failed at some point. I've never seen a CPU do that and even old socket 462 Athlon XP's shut down when over heated saving themselves from frydom. I base that on the fact that the last one I worked on (2800+) wouldn't run for more than a couple minutes in Windows because it was showing 70C in the BIOS. After I cleaned the gunk off dude's heatsink and applied new TIM. Problem solved and it ran as good as new. I have an ancient PII 333 MHz Slot style CPU right now in my apartment that runs as well as the day it was built in 1997. An old style horizontal HP Vectra and I don't know why I even keep it around.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 17:17:51 -0500, Robert Martin Jr. lopa...@pacbell.net wrote: I've seen at least 5-6 CPU's go bad. Sometimes it's just the cache memory and sometimes the processor. Old athlons would fry pretty quick if the CPU fan goes bad often just within a few minutes. I've probably built or repaired 500+ systems just as a hobbyist. I used to average 3-4 full systems a week back in the old days. Now that I don't have a lot of time, I've probably done new boxes 3 this month. lopaka From: Scoobydo swza...@yahoo.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:59:23 PM Subject: Re: [H] Odd CPU issue If you've had experience of several bad CPU's then you must be a system builder with hundreds of builds under your belt. I'm just a hobbyist and have only built 20 or so boxes over the years and I've never even heard of anyone having a CPU go bad until you said it. Bad mobo's, PSU's, hardrives, floppies, optical drives, video cards, RAM, fans etc. I've seen it all with the single exception of the processor. CPU's are by far the most reliable component of any PC, period. Intel and AMD deserve great respect for that major accomplishment. Of course static electricity can kill one pretty easily but that's not going bad, that's user error. Somewhere in this area in a land fill is my original IBM PS/2 486 SX-25 and I'd bet anything that if it were buried functional with no bent or broken pins it would still run if socketed in a working box. I really believe that.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 14:09:01 -0500, Gaffer 14...@castle-computer.co.uk wrote: On Friday 21 May 2010 15:02:35 Scoobydo wrote: I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume something else is happening.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 06:24:39 -0500, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a ADA4200IAA5CU in it http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%2 0ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%2 0ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine. Any ideas? T I've had experience of several bad CPU. Having said that, and in view of the tests that the OP has done, BIOS settings are the first place to check. The other is the CPU psu itself. I've seen bad capacitors cause the psu to shut down on heavy load but supply power just fine to a lighter load, ie a CPU that draws less power. The other suggestion I would make is to check the BIOS beep codes to see what the beep code means. --Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
The first cpu I've seen go bad was a 100MHz 486 cpu (if I remember correctly) and the cache went bad for no apparent reason. If you disabled the cache the box worked fine albeit very slow. The second was a pentium 233 mmx and problem was identicle to the prior one. I had one celeron 300A go dead for no apparent reason and it had good cooling so it wasn't due to heat. It was in a regular and not overclocked machine. I had a pentium-M 2GHz cpu die completely and it was running a large copper heatsink so it wasn't heat, and I put another 1.7 cpu on the board and it ran well for about another year till the mobo died (that box did run 24/7 as a server/DVR box). The remaining ones however I did suspect heat as the cause of death or dusfunction. I've had a lot more motherboards bite the dust though, sometimes fryed when the PSU went sketchy and sometimes on their own. Lots of power supplies have gone south though (more that mobos + cpus combined) lopaka From: Scoobydo swza...@yahoo.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 3:41:20 PM Subject: Re: [H] Odd CPU issue Clearly you have more experience than me but you did say gone bad because of overheating right? Most components I've had go bad did so for no apparent reason. They just failed at some point. I've never seen a CPU do that and even old socket 462 Athlon XP's shut down when over heated saving themselves from frydom. I base that on the fact that the last one I worked on (2800+) wouldn't run for more than a couple minutes in Windows because it was showing 70C in the BIOS. After I cleaned the gunk off dude's heatsink and applied new TIM. Problem solved and it ran as good as new. I have an ancient PII 333 MHz Slot style CPU right now in my apartment that runs as well as the day it was built in 1997. An old style horizontal HP Vectra and I don't know why I even keep it around.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 17:17:51 -0500, Robert Martin Jr. lopa...@pacbell.net wrote: I've seen at least 5-6 CPU's go bad. Sometimes it's just the cache memory and sometimes the processor. Old athlons would fry pretty quick if the CPU fan goes bad often just within a few minutes. I've probably built or repaired 500+ systems just as a hobbyist. I used to average 3-4 full systems a week back in the old days. Now that I don't have a lot of time, I've probably done new boxes 3 this month. lopaka From: Scoobydo swza...@yahoo.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:59:23 PM Subject: Re: [H] Odd CPU issue If you've had experience of several bad CPU's then you must be a system builder with hundreds of builds under your belt. I'm just a hobbyist and have only built 20 or so boxes over the years and I've never even heard of anyone having a CPU go bad until you said it. Bad mobo's, PSU's, hardrives, floppies, optical drives, video cards, RAM, fans etc. I've seen it all with the single exception of the processor. CPU's are by far the most reliable component of any PC, period. Intel and AMD deserve great respect for that major accomplishment. Of course static electricity can kill one pretty easily but that's not going bad, that's user error. Somewhere in this area in a land fill is my original IBM PS/2 486 SX-25 and I'd bet anything that if it were buried functional with no bent or broken pins it would still run if socketed in a working box. I really believe that.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 14:09:01 -0500, Gaffer 14...@castle-computer.co.uk wrote: On Friday 21 May 2010 15:02:35 Scoobydo wrote: I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume something else is happening.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 06:24:39 -0500, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a ADA4200IAA5CU in it http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%2 0ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%2 0ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine. Any ideas? T I've had experience of several bad CPU. Having said that, and in view of the tests that the OP has done, BIOS settings are the first place to check. The other is the CPU psu itself. I've seen bad capacitors cause the psu to shut down on heavy load but supply power just fine to a lighter load, ie a CPU that draws less power. The other suggestion I would make is to check the BIOS beep codes to see what the beep code means. --Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
Scoobydo, If I dig in by bone pile I could offer you a brand new old stock and only use once, spare for your current P2-333. I bought mine because it had some special S-Spec #. If interested, I can share critical numbers. Lopaka speaks true. I personally have had 3 cpu's give up the ghost at initial power up during build-phase. I call this DOA. As you have never seen this, you have been very blessed. JMHO, but I think most of us have large experience with DOA kinda stuff. I do not consider any build I've ever started [complete] until it runs sans errors for its' 6-month Infant Mortality period. Others here have different schedules for their builds! I completely agree with your other points. Good share, but, don't be so quick to give the cpu a pass. Stuff happens hereand bad parts arrive via the big brown truck!! :) Best, Duncan On 05/21/2010 18:41, Scoobydo wrote: Clearly you have more experience than me but you did say gone bad because of overheating right? Most components I've had go bad did so for no apparent reason. They just failed at some point. I've never seen a CPU do that and even old socket 462 Athlon XP's shut down when over heated saving themselves from frydom. I base that on the fact that the last one I worked on (2800+) wouldn't run for more than a couple minutes in Windows because it was showing 70C in the BIOS. After I cleaned the gunk off dude's heatsink and applied new TIM. Problem solved and it ran as good as new. I have an ancient PII 333 MHz Slot style CPU right now in my apartment that runs as well as the day it was built in 1997. An old style horizontal HP Vectra and I don't know why I even keep it around.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 17:17:51 -0500, Robert Martin Jr. lopa...@pacbell.net wrote: I've seen at least 5-6 CPU's go bad. Sometimes it's just the cache memory and sometimes the processor. Old athlons would fry pretty quick if the CPU fan goes bad often just within a few minutes. I've probably built or repaired 500+ systems just as a hobbyist. I used to average 3-4 full systems a week back in the old days. Now that I don't have a lot of time, I've probably done new boxes 3 this month. lopaka From: Scoobydo swza...@yahoo.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:59:23 PM Subject: Re: [H] Odd CPU issue If you've had experience of several bad CPU's then you must be a system builder with hundreds of builds under your belt. I'm just a hobbyist and have only built 20 or so boxes over the years and I've never even heard of anyone having a CPU go bad until you said it. Bad mobo's, PSU's, hardrives, floppies, optical drives, video cards, RAM, fans etc. I've seen it all with the single exception of the processor. CPU's are by far the most reliable component of any PC, period. Intel and AMD deserve great respect for that major accomplishment. Of course static electricity can kill one pretty easily but that's not going bad, that's user error. Somewhere in this area in a land fill is my original IBM PS/2 486 SX-25 and I'd bet anything that if it were buried functional with no bent or broken pins it would still run if socketed in a working box. I really believe that.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 14:09:01 -0500, Gaffer 14...@castle-computer.co.uk wrote: On Friday 21 May 2010 15:02:35 Scoobydo wrote: I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume something else is happening.. On Fri, 21 May 2010 06:24:39 -0500, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: I have an HP machine that won't boot with its CPU in it (boots to three long beeps and then one long continuous beep.) It has a ADA4200IAA5CU in it http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%204200+%20-%2 0ADA4200IAA5CU%20%28ADA4200CUBOX%29.html When I put in another CPU ADA5600IAA6CZ http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%205600+%20-%2 0ADA5600IAA6CZ%20%28ADA5600CZBOX%29.html It boots fine. So one would assume, bad CPU. But when I move this CPU to a test motherboard, the machine boots fine. Any ideas? T I've had experience of several bad CPU. Having said that, and in view of the tests that the OP has done, BIOS settings are the first place to check. The other is the CPU psu itself. I've seen bad capacitors cause the psu to shut down on heavy load but supply power just fine to a lighter load, ie a CPU that draws less power. The other suggestion I would make is to check the BIOS beep codes to see what the beep code means. --Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
At 11:02 AM 21/05/2010, Scoobydo wrote: I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume something else is happening.. I'm looking into the BIOS. Doesn't appear to be the power supply. I have seen many CPUs go bad over the years, but I've never seen a CPU stop working on one motherboard and then work in another. That's interesting. T
Re: [H] Odd CPU issue
Thane, Yes. This one is interesting. I follow this thread. But, you have many more m/b's to test with than I. Still this one is most odd.. ? I do so wish I was a BIOS-maven but I am not. I suffer with it on each new tech m/b I buy. I would suspect that the cpu VR's on the m/b have taken a dive. The replacement cpu that you tried did not press them hard enough; so, they just worked OPSNORML once again. JMHO. You always do share good problems! Do you perhaps have ash fallout from the Iceland volcano ATM? If so, all bets are off... :) Best, Duncan On 05/21/2010 22:35, Thane Sherrington wrote: At 11:02 AM 21/05/2010, Scoobydo wrote: I assume you've looked for a borked BIOS setting? Doesn't make sense the CPU is bad. I've never heard of one going bad so must assume something else is happening.. I'm looking into the BIOS. Doesn't appear to be the power supply. I have seen many CPUs go bad over the years, but I've never seen a CPU stop working on one motherboard and then work in another. That's interesting. T
Re: [H] Odd MS website issue
At 05:21 PM 17/05/2010, JRS wrote: Hmm.. My Firefox 3.6.3 goes there just fine. Could be a plug-in you are using that I am not?? I only use Ad_Block Plus, FireFTP, and IEView Lite... Must be something in my profile. Thanks. T
[H] Odd MS website issue
When surfing with Firefox, I occasionally get this error when going to MS Webpages like this one: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/r2-editions-overview.aspx Bad Request - Invalid Verb HTTP Error 400. The request verb is invalid. It works fine in IE, so I'm assuming it's a FF thing. Anyone know of a workaround? T
Re: [H] Odd MS website issue
Hmm.. My Firefox 3.6.3 goes there just fine. Could be a plug-in you are using that I am not?? I only use Ad_Block Plus, FireFTP, and IEView Lite... -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. - Original Message From: Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:12:24 PM Subject: [H] Odd MS website issue When surfing with Firefox, I occasionally get this error when going to MS Webpages like this one: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/r2-editions-overview.aspx Bad Request - Invalid Verb HTTP Error 400. The request verb is invalid. It works fine in IE, so I'm assuming it's a FF thing. Anyone know of a workaround? T
Re: [H] Odd MS website issue
Works for me. I am using Firefox 3.6.3 When surfing with Firefox, I occasionally get this error when going to MS Webpages like this one: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/r2-editions-overview.aspx Bad Request - Invalid Verb HTTP Error 400. The request verb is invalid. It works fine in IE, so I'm assuming it's a FF thing. Anyone know of a workaround? T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
At 02:16 PM 1/13/2010, LubomÃr Äabla wrote: Yes, it is known as Media Direct HPA (Host Protected Area) see http://www.hdat2.com/hdat2_faq.html#q15 You're a genius! That worked perfectly. I used the Hitachi software to set the size of the drive correctly, and recopied just the Windows partition with Ghost 2003 (Acronis isn't bright enough, as far as I can tell, to copy partition to partition, it wants to do the whole drive or nothing.) That worked perfectly. Thanks a lot for your help! Thane
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
You are welcome. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 02:16 PM 1/13/2010, LubomÃr ÄŒabla wrote: Yes, it is known as Media Direct HPA (Host Protected Area) see http://www.hdat2.com/hdat2_faq.html#q15 You're a genius! That worked perfectly. I used the Hitachi software to set the size of the drive correctly, and recopied just the Windows partition with Ghost 2003 (Acronis isn't bright enough, as far as I can tell, to copy partition to partition, it wants to do the whole drive or nothing.) That worked perfectly. Thanks a lot for your help! Thane
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
At 02:16 PM 1/13/2010, LubomÃr ÄOabla wrote: Yes, it is known as Media Direct HPA (Host Protected Area) see http://www.hdat2.com/hdat2_faq.html#q15 You're a genius! That worked perfectly. I used the Hitachi software to set the size of the drive correctly, and recopied just the Windows partition with Ghost 2003 (Acronis isn't bright enough, as far as I can tell, to copy partition to partition, it wants to do the whole drive or nothing.) That worked perfectly. Thanks a lot for your help! Thane To do partition copies directly (drive to drive), (a single of multi) you need to use the Other Acronis. Disk Director Suite.(10) It is MUCH more of a partition manipulating program, and at a much different level. (IE: It has a disk-editor too.) (A new version is overdue, so you might want to hold off.) You could have done it with Acronis TrueImage, but you would have had to handle it like a partition backup then restore. (Not direct.) True Image is for back-ups and/or full clones. Hope this helps. Rick Glazier
[H] Odd problem with hard drive
I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 with a dying hard drive. It's a 100GB Seagate. I removed the drive and put it in our machine to clone it using Acronis. It cloned successfully to a Western Digital 160GB drive, and when I rebooted (still on our computer, both drives showed up normally, the new drive passed SMART tests, and they appeared to have the same files on each.) I installed the drive in the Dell and it BSOD'd on boot. When I rebooted it and went into setup, it said the drive was a 98.5GB drive. I put the drive back in our machine, and although the BIOS said it was a WD1600BEXT, it said the size was 98.5GB. I assumed the drive was bad, so I redid the copy on another drive, and exactly the same thing happened. I'm assuming that the Dell is somehow screwing up the drive, but I've never seen anything like that before - has anyone else, and do you know of a fix? T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
Yes, it is known as Media Direct HPA (Host Protected Area) see http://www.hdat2.com/hdat2_faq.html#q15 You can remove this HPA are with this SW also or with another (google for Dell Media Direct HPA) e.g. http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/mediadirect.htm. On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 with a dying hard drive. It's a 100GB Seagate. I removed the drive and put it in our machine to clone it using Acronis. It cloned successfully to a Western Digital 160GB drive, and when I rebooted (still on our computer, both drives showed up normally, the new drive passed SMART tests, and they appeared to have the same files on each.) I installed the drive in the Dell and it BSOD'd on boot. When I rebooted it and went into setup, it said the drive was a 98.5GB drive. I put the drive back in our machine, and although the BIOS said it was a WD1600BEXT, it said the size was 98.5GB. I assumed the drive was bad, so I redid the copy on another drive, and exactly the same thing happened. I'm assuming that the Dell is somehow screwing up the drive, but I've never seen anything like that before - has anyone else, and do you know of a fix? T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
We've had issues on our new Dell E6400's and Desktops where we have to make sure the drive controller is not set to AHCI mode in BIOS or our ImageCast drives will not work. Granted, our version of ImageCast is a bit old, but this sounds like the same kind of issue. If we set the BIOS to IDE or legacy mode they are fine.. -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. - Original Message From: Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:03:11 AM Subject: [H] Odd problem with hard drive I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 with a dying hard drive. It's a 100GB Seagate. I removed the drive and put it in our machine to clone it using Acronis. It cloned successfully to a Western Digital 160GB drive, and when I rebooted (still on our computer, both drives showed up normally, the new drive passed SMART tests, and they appeared to have the same files on each.) I installed the drive in the Dell and it BSOD'd on boot. When I rebooted it and went into setup, it said the drive was a 98.5GB drive. I put the drive back in our machine, and although the BIOS said it was a WD1600BEXT, it said the size was 98.5GB. I assumed the drive was bad, so I redid the copy on another drive, and exactly the same thing happened. I'm assuming that the Dell is somehow screwing up the drive, but I've never seen anything like that before - has anyone else, and do you know of a fix? T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
At 02:19 PM 1/13/2010, JRS wrote: We've had issues on our new Dell E6400's and Desktops where we have to make sure the drive controller is not set to AHCI mode in BIOS or our ImageCast drives will not work. Granted, our version of ImageCast is a bit old, but this sounds like the same kind of issue. If we set the BIOS to IDE or legacy mode they are fine.. I have seen that before, but on this computer, there is no way to set the controller to AHCI or IDE. T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
At 02:16 PM 1/13/2010, LubomÃr Äabla wrote: Yes, it is known as Media Direct HPA (Host Protected Area) see http://www.hdat2.com/hdat2_faq.html#q15 You can remove this HPA are with this SW also or with another (google for Dell Media Direct HPA) e.g. http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/mediadirect.htm. I'll give those a try, thanks! T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
At 03:03 PM 1/13/2010, Tim Lider wrote: Is the computer you cloned it from able to access the data on the computer? If so, then it could be the dell does not recognize the 160GB hard drive correctly. I have seen this many times on Legacy machines that do not have LBA32 or higher drive mapping. This is a fairly recent computer so it should be able to see larger drives. And when I move the hard drive back from the Dell to the cloning system, the BIOS on the cloning system also states that the drive is 98.5GB. Western Digital morons told that Acronis had cloned the size of the drive from the source drive but of course that's a load of crap, and when I rebooted after cloning, the drive reported its size normally. So for some reason, installing the drive in the Dell overwrites the firmware in the drive and sets the size to 98.5GB. I've yet to find a way to flash the firmware on the WD drive. Also, were there any bad sectors on the drive during the clone? If so, this is probably why the drive is BSOD'ing. There were, but Acronis copied without complaint. T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
No, Acronis or Dell PC cannot change a firmware of hard disk. I think it is Host Protected Area (HPA) only. Just download any program to check if HPA is present and remove it with SET MAX ADDRESS command. It is really simple (if I am not wrong). On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 03:03 PM 1/13/2010, Tim Lider wrote: Is the computer you cloned it from able to access the data on the computer? If so, then it could be the dell does not recognize the 160GB hard drive correctly. I have seen this many times on Legacy machines that do not have LBA32 or higher drive mapping. This is a fairly recent computer so it should be able to see larger drives. And when I move the hard drive back from the Dell to the cloning system, the BIOS on the cloning system also states that the drive is 98.5GB. Western Digital morons told that Acronis had cloned the size of the drive from the source drive but of course that's a load of crap, and when I rebooted after cloning, the drive reported its size normally. So for some reason, installing the drive in the Dell overwrites the firmware in the drive and sets the size to 98.5GB. I've yet to find a way to flash the firmware on the WD drive. Also, were there any bad sectors on the drive during the clone? If so, this is probably why the drive is BSOD'ing. There were, but Acronis copied without complaint. T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
There is a solution: Acronis HPA Makes the Cloned Drive Display Wrong Capacity http://kb.acronis.com/content/1710 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 03:03 PM 1/13/2010, Tim Lider wrote: Is the computer you cloned it from able to access the data on the computer? If so, then it could be the dell does not recognize the 160GB hard drive correctly. I have seen this many times on Legacy machines that do not have LBA32 or higher drive mapping. This is a fairly recent computer so it should be able to see larger drives. And when I move the hard drive back from the Dell to the cloning system, the BIOS on the cloning system also states that the drive is 98.5GB. Western Digital morons told that Acronis had cloned the size of the drive from the source drive but of course that's a load of crap, and when I rebooted after cloning, the drive reported its size normally. So for some reason, installing the drive in the Dell overwrites the firmware in the drive and sets the size to 98.5GB. I've yet to find a way to flash the firmware on the WD drive. Also, were there any bad sectors on the drive during the clone? If so, this is probably why the drive is BSOD'ing. There were, but Acronis copied without complaint. T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
I do not see how Acronis wrote to the Firmware of the drive. That is really weird. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:16 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive At 03:03 PM 1/13/2010, Tim Lider wrote: Is the computer you cloned it from able to access the data on the computer? If so, then it could be the dell does not recognize the 160GB hard drive correctly. I have seen this many times on Legacy machines that do not have LBA32 or higher drive mapping. This is a fairly recent computer so it should be able to see larger drives. And when I move the hard drive back from the Dell to the cloning system, the BIOS on the cloning system also states that the drive is 98.5GB. Western Digital morons told that Acronis had cloned the size of the drive from the source drive but of course that's a load of crap, and when I rebooted after cloning, the drive reported its size normally. So for some reason, installing the drive in the Dell overwrites the firmware in the drive and sets the size to 98.5GB. I've yet to find a way to flash the firmware on the WD drive. Also, were there any bad sectors on the drive during the clone? If so, this is probably why the drive is BSOD'ing. There were, but Acronis copied without complaint. T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
Could the HPA be located between LBA 1 and 62? If so just wipe those sectors clean and should fix the problem. This is the first time I have seen this problem with clone software changing the size of the drive. If it is not on the sectors I mentioned. You can change the Max LBA of a drive. But that takes a firmware utility to change it. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Lubomír Cabla Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:44 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive There is a solution: Acronis HPA Makes the Cloned Drive Display Wrong Capacity http://kb.acronis.com/content/1710 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote: At 03:03 PM 1/13/2010, Tim Lider wrote: Is the computer you cloned it from able to access the data on the computer? If so, then it could be the dell does not recognize the 160GB hard drive correctly. I have seen this many times on Legacy machines that do not have LBA32 or higher drive mapping. This is a fairly recent computer so it should be able to see larger drives. And when I move the hard drive back from the Dell to the cloning system, the BIOS on the cloning system also states that the drive is 98.5GB. Western Digital morons told that Acronis had cloned the size of the drive from the source drive but of course that's a load of crap, and when I rebooted after cloning, the drive reported its size normally. So for some reason, installing the drive in the Dell overwrites the firmware in the drive and sets the size to 98.5GB. I've yet to find a way to flash the firmware on the WD drive. Also, were there any bad sectors on the drive during the clone? If so, this is probably why the drive is BSOD'ing. There were, but Acronis copied without complaint. T
Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive
Have you checked the drive for any un-allocated space? It is real easy to copy a drive over to a big drive and have it come out smaller (the old size) on the new drive. That happens EASY (unless you prevent it) while doing a partition only Image and Restore. (I came in late, but I read the last two messages in the thread.) Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: Thane Sherrington th...@computerconnectionltd.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [H] Odd problem with hard drive At 03:03 PM 1/13/2010, Tim Lider wrote: Is the computer you cloned it from able to access the data on the computer? If so, then it could be the dell does not recognize the 160GB hard drive correctly. I have seen this many times on Legacy machines that do not have LBA32 or higher drive mapping. This is a fairly recent computer so it should be able to see larger drives. And when I move the hard drive back from the Dell to the cloning system, the BIOS on the cloning system also states that the drive is 98.5GB. Western Digital morons told that Acronis had cloned the size of the drive from the source drive but of course that's a load of crap, and when I rebooted after cloning, the drive reported its size normally. So for some reason, installing the drive in the Dell overwrites the firmware in the drive and sets the size to 98.5GB. I've yet to find a way to flash the firmware on the WD drive. Also, were there any bad sectors on the drive during the clone? If so, this is probably why the drive is BSOD'ing. There were, but Acronis copied without complaint. T
[H] Odd CHKDSK issue
I have a Vista computer in that is having trouble booting. I removed the hard drive and attached it to my test computer (running PE) and I can see the drive and SMART says it's ok, but when I run chkdsk /f (or /r) it comes up with a bunch of deleting index... messages. Normally once this completes a drive will come up clean, but this time, each time I run chkdsk, I get the exact same messages. I tried using True Image to clone it to another drive and the other drive has the same issue. I also tried Ghost, and xxcopy with the /clone switch with the same results. Any ideas how I can clean up the corruption? T
Re: [H] Odd-MS Mouse Drivers?
You're welcome! Always suspect the last thing you installed. Of course test it directly attached, no KVM, hub, extensions, etc... Assuming v7 is spec'd for Win2K (this is the OS you're using?) and still dead mouse, I'd then suspect the mouse is too old for the driver, this further assuming you've tested V7 on another system with this mouse. DSinc wrote: snip Re-booted via kbd commands! (thank you maccrawj!!!) Should I suspect the MS driver 1st? Or, should I suspect the cheap (oem) MS optical wheel mouse? They were only ~$15 from Newegg 3 months ago! Not a trick question at all. So far, the suspect dead MS mouse seems to work just fine on another machine that also has a SwitchView KVM switch. (This I did NOT expect!!!)
Re: [H] Odd-MS Mouse Drivers?
j., LOL! Yes, I will re-test this suspect mouse per your suggestions. A bit tough due to client orientations, but doable. My old server uses w2kserver-sp4. All my other clients are XPsp3. And, all were patched on 8/12/09. This mouse thing was just because I went looking and found the new IntelliPoint wrapper. I feel like I have yet again violated Rule#1. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!! Also replied back-channel. Thank you for your help. maccrawj wrote: You're welcome! Always suspect the last thing you installed. Of course test it directly attached, no KVM, hub, extensions, etc... Assuming v7 is spec'd for Win2K (this is the OS you're using?) and still dead mouse, I'd then suspect the mouse is too old for the driver, this further assuming you've tested V7 on another system with this mouse. DSinc wrote: snip Re-booted via kbd commands! (thank you maccrawj!!!) Should I suspect the MS driver 1st? Or, should I suspect the cheap (oem) MS optical wheel mouse? They were only ~$15 from Newegg 3 months ago! Not a trick question at all. So far, the suspect dead MS mouse seems to work just fine on another machine that also has a SwitchView KVM switch. (This I did NOT expect!!!)
[H] Odd-MS Mouse Drivers?
I went to MS and found that their latest drivers for their mice is now V7.0 (ipx86_1033_7.00.260.0.exe). No biggie. I have been using V6.30, and still wondering whether to try V6.31. OK. This is some past and present. :) MS V7.0 did surprise me! I do know that V6.31 is as far as I can push my old W2K server LOL! Today, over morning coffee, I got to watch a mouse just die! No-worky! It started blinking its' butt off and on, then off! No light-up. No nada! (using the V7.0/New driver!) Re-booted via kbd commands! (thank you maccrawj!!!) Should I suspect the MS driver 1st? Or, should I suspect the cheap (oem) MS optical wheel mouse? They were only ~$15 from Newegg 3 months ago! Not a trick question at all. So far, the suspect dead MS mouse seems to work just fine on another machine that also has a SwitchView KVM switch. (This I did NOT expect!!!) I have eliminated my master KVM switch (and the connected client) because as I type this query I now have an old Logitech 3-key, wheel, Marble-mouse back in service. It is a bit sluggish, but fully functional(using the MS V7.0 driver!) :) Opinions? I'd love to blame this on the latest MS drivers! I will test this shortly..I do so love re-booting all my connected KVM clients!!! (NOT!!) Yes, a bit confused I am ATM. Searching for a bit of Yo-Da wisdom? Thank you. Duncan
Re: [H] Odd FireFox behavior?
My fist question is: Which one is different. I'll go look at my settings while I wait for the reply... Rick Glazier From: DSinc Only 1 of my machines will auto-magically pop up a notification window on browser opening w/FF or Add-on's updates. All the rest sit dormant and wait for me manually to click help/addons or help/check for updates post opening the browser.
Re: [H] Odd FireFox behavior?
Rick, So Sorry! The one that is different is the one that does its' FF updates somehow auto-magically! (Addy8-C2D/e8400-WinXP) I can not seem to get my other 5 PCs to repeat this behavior. (Addy1-Dual P3-1000-W2KServer) (Addy4-C2D/e8400-WinXP) (Addy5-P3-800-WinXP) (Addy6-C2D/e8400-WinXP) (Addy7-AMD Barton2500+-WinXP) Best, Duncan Rick Glazier wrote: My fist question is: Which one is different. I'll go look at my settings while I wait for the reply... Rick Glazier From: DSinc Only 1 of my machines will auto-magically pop up a notification window on browser opening w/FF or Add-on's updates. All the rest sit dormant and wait for me manually to click help/addons or help/check for updates post opening the browser.
Re: [H] Odd viewing?
Well 1st off 1024x768 is 4:3 not 16:9/16:8 so that's gonna result in whacky screen usage. 1024x768 is also the standard res for 17 so I'd think running native res. would result is same font size as it's a bigger monitor, not too mention only native res ever looks good on LCD. 1050-768 is only 282 pixels taller, the rest is the wide screen part, but you could try to increase the system font size to compensate YMMV. I run my 4:3 17 FP1702's @ native 1280x1024x75 and use the CTRL++, CTRL+-, CTRL+0 keys or mouse gestures in Firefox/Thunderbird to adjust fonts when they are too small to read. DSinc wrote: Ever since I got my Dell E207WFPc 20 wide-screen panel, I have noticed that web pages always display too wide. I always get the bar at the bottom of the screen display to move Right to see the REST of the page. I can not seem to stop this behavior. Can I? The Panel's native resolution is 1680x1050x60. I use it with 1024x768x60. I also use analog because my KVM switch will NOT do DVI cabling. Two of my video cards will not do 1680x1050x60 at all. And, I can not read stuff comfortably at this default resolution even on the one PC that does have a video card able to do this resolution. Is there any fix, or, happy medium I can try? Thanks, Duncan
Re: [H] Odd FireFox behavior?
The wife (she who must be obeyed) set me on a couple tasks and I never looked yet. (That is an old Irish saying IIRC.) I was somehow hoping the odd machine was the one that was different. Being one of many XPs, I'd look at the settings there first. In FF, in the Options section, on the Update Tab, are they set right? (Hope so...) Then, look at ALL the others... I just forced an update to FF 3.5.2 (from 3.5.1) but that is a server load thing that sometimes takes them a day or two to get around to offering it... The add-ons seem to update almost every day. Like you should be seeing, I get the updated around 4 times+ , so loose track... There is some sort of update file, (XML???) that gets corrupted in FF once in awhile... I got that message recently, but it went away before I bothered with the fix. (Mostly because I forget what the fix generally is/was...) Good luck, Hope a simple answer like this was enough... Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: DSinc Rick, So Sorry! The one that is different is the one that does its' FF updates somehow auto-magically! (Addy8-C2D/e8400-WinXP)
Re: [H] Odd viewing?
j., I printed your reply. I will play more this afternoon with this. Yes, I did fully expect some abnormality moving from a 4:3 panel to a 16:9 panel. Guess I am still trying to adjust. Still believe that wide-screen is the way to go :) Well, finding good 4:3 panels is now getting tough. LOL! I'll also check out the ctrl+? functions in FF. I have really never used any of them before. Just never needed to remember this before. Now, it seems to be part of the game for us tired eyed viewers. Thank you for the suggestions and background. Duncan maccrawj wrote: Well 1st off 1024x768 is 4:3 not 16:9/16:8 so that's gonna result in whacky screen usage. 1024x768 is also the standard res for 17 so I'd think running native res. would result is same font size as it's a bigger monitor, not too mention only native res ever looks good on LCD. 1050-768 is only 282 pixels taller, the rest is the wide screen part, but you could try to increase the system font size to compensate YMMV. I run my 4:3 17 FP1702's @ native 1280x1024x75 and use the CTRL++, CTRL+-, CTRL+0 keys or mouse gestures in Firefox/Thunderbird to adjust fonts when they are too small to read. DSinc wrote: Ever since I got my Dell E207WFPc 20 wide-screen panel, I have noticed that web pages always display too wide. I always get the bar at the bottom of the screen display to move Right to see the REST of the page. I can not seem to stop this behavior. Can I? The Panel's native resolution is 1680x1050x60. I use it with 1024x768x60. I also use analog because my KVM switch will NOT do DVI cabling. Two of my video cards will not do 1680x1050x60 at all. And, I can not read stuff comfortably at this default resolution even on the one PC that does have a video card able to do this resolution. Is there any fix, or, happy medium I can try? Thanks, Duncan
Re: [H] Odd FireFox behavior?
inline Rick Glazier wrote: The wife (she who must be obeyed) set me on a couple tasks and I never looked yet. (That is an old Irish saying IIRC.) Understand completely LOL! I was somehow hoping the odd machine was the one that was different. Being one of many XPs, I'd look at the settings there first. Yes, I was afraid of this response, but will dig deeper into my XP choices per PC.. :( In FF, in the Options section, on the Update Tab, are they set right? (Hope so...) Then, look at ALL the others... Well, AFAIK all 5 PCs are set the same. The server requires a different eyeball... :) I will look again. I just forced an update to FF 3.5.2 (from 3.5.1) but that is a server load thing that sometimes takes them a day or two to get around to offering it... The add-ons seem to update almost every day. Like you should be seeing, I get the updated around 4 times+ , so loose track... Good! Then you may have the same situation (bug?)/choice. Once I found out about 352 from my auto-magic PC, I had to force 352 onto the rest :( And, yes, I did sit and watch/wait ~15min for each PC to announce 352. Never happened. But when forced; each PC happily updated to 352. Odd. Well, to me anyway. There is some sort of update file, (XML???) that gets corrupted in FF once in awhile... I got that message recently, but it went away before I bothered with the fix. (Mostly because I forget what the fix generally is/was...) I was so hoping you would never mention XML Yes, have already spent 3 days reading about some potentially lame XML file in FF that MAY need to be deleted. I do not have this file on any of my PCs. Good luck, Hope a simple answer like this was enough... Thank you for the reply. It let's me know that I am not crazy (yet). I will do some more digging around. :) Best, Duncan Rick Glazier - Original Message - From: DSinc Rick, So Sorry! The one that is different is the one that does its' FF updates somehow auto-magically! (Addy8-C2D/e8400-WinXP)
Re: [H] Odd FireFox behavior?
Tools / Options / Advanced tab Then check the 'Update' tab for all the auto download and checking selections.. -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. - Original Message From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 9:27:29 AM Subject: Re: [H] Odd FireFox behavior? Rick, So Sorry! The one that is different is the one that does its' FF updates somehow auto-magically! (Addy8-C2D/e8400-WinXP) I can not seem to get my other 5 PCs to repeat this behavior. (Addy1-Dual P3-1000-W2KServer) (Addy4-C2D/e8400-WinXP) (Addy5-P3-800-WinXP) (Addy6-C2D/e8400-WinXP) (Addy7-AMD Barton2500+-WinXP) Best, Duncan Rick Glazier wrote: My fist question is: Which one is different. I'll go look at my settings while I wait for the reply... Rick Glazier From: DSinc Only 1 of my machines will auto-magically pop up a notification window on browser opening w/FF or Add-on's updates. All the rest sit dormant and wait for me manually to click help/addons or help/check for updates post opening the browser.
Re: [H] Odd FireFox behavior?
JRS, Been there and done this to blindness. But, I will go back and look yet again. Something may be locked in place.(?) Per this path, all 6 machines are the same ATM. Only 1 plays. Odd to be sure. Thank you. Best, Duncan JRS wrote: Tools / Options / Advanced tab Then check the 'Update' tab for all the auto download and checking selections.. -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. - Original Message From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 9:27:29 AM Subject: Re: [H] Odd FireFox behavior? Rick, So Sorry! The one that is different is the one that does its' FF updates somehow auto-magically! (Addy8-C2D/e8400-WinXP) I can not seem to get my other 5 PCs to repeat this behavior. (Addy1-Dual P3-1000-W2KServer) (Addy4-C2D/e8400-WinXP) (Addy5-P3-800-WinXP) (Addy6-C2D/e8400-WinXP) (Addy7-AMD Barton2500+-WinXP) Best, Duncan Rick Glazier wrote: My fist question is: Which one is different. I'll go look at my settings while I wait for the reply... Rick Glazier From: DSinc Only 1 of my machines will auto-magically pop up a notification window on browser opening w/FF or Add-on's updates. All the rest sit dormant and wait for me manually to click help/addons or help/check for updates post opening the browser.
Re: [H] Odd viewing?
Damn. Now I have to so seriously play with stuff I have not done in too many years.. :( I will get back to you. After I tweak/futz. ATM, it seems to me going wide-screen is no longer an option. It is what I can now pay for! Now, I learn to play nice with it. Thank you. Duncan maccrawj wrote: Wide screen is the way to go IMHO. Adjusting to how the landscape changes strikes me as a PITA, let you know if ever I get there! If you load Fire Gestures add-on there are right-click mouse strokes that will do the font size adjustment with a flick of the wrist. I forgot you can also do CTRL+mouse wheel to do the same. Just wish the rest of windows was as accomodating when it comes to font size tweaking, on-the-fly or permanent. A feature to hope for in Win7 or Vista I guess. ;) DSinc wrote: j., I printed your reply. I will play more this afternoon with this. Yes, I did fully expect some abnormality moving from a 4:3 panel to a 16:9 panel. Guess I am still trying to adjust. Still believe that wide-screen is the way to go :) Well, finding good 4:3 panels is now getting tough. LOL! I'll also check out the ctrl+? functions in FF. I have really never used any of them before. Just never needed to remember this before. Now, it seems to be part of the game for us tired eyed viewers. Thank you for the suggestions and background. Duncan snip
[H] Odd FireFox behavior?
This is just an annoyance. FireFox is still working wonderfully AFAIK. I have 6 machines. All use FireFox v3.5.2 (now). 5 are XP; one is W2K Server. Only 1 of my machines will auto-magically pop up a notification window on browser opening w/FF or Add-on's updates. All the rest sit dormant and wait for me manually to click help/addons or help/check for updates post opening the browser. I've been thru every window/switch I can find, but can not find the magic to get the other 5 machines to become more auto-magic. Did I miss some subtle only-at-install switch? Could NoScript or CS-Lite addons be involved? Worse, do I have some hidden XP business here? All 6 were patch-current as of 7-15-09. I'd love to say that all 6 machines are true mirrors of each other, but, sadly, no, not really. Each seems to have its' own personality. Thank for any suggestions. Best, Duncan
[H] Odd viewing?
Ever since I got my Dell E207WFPc 20 wide-screen panel, I have noticed that web pages always display too wide. I always get the bar at the bottom of the screen display to move Right to see the REST of the page. I can not seem to stop this behavior. Can I? The Panel's native resolution is 1680x1050x60. I use it with 1024x768x60. I also use analog because my KVM switch will NOT do DVI cabling. Two of my video cards will not do 1680x1050x60 at all. And, I can not read stuff comfortably at this default resolution even on the one PC that does have a video card able to do this resolution. Is there any fix, or, happy medium I can try? Thanks, Duncan
Re: [H] Odd viewing?
1024x768 works here on my CRT, for all browser based WEB pages. Only if I go below that (smaller numbers), (and then not always) do I have to scroll side to side in a Browser. I'll check later on my Laptops and W/S LCDs, but this seems nuts a W/S LCD would display in such a non-W/S way... I would say the problem rests with the analog output being set wrong, or the KVM not emulating the correct res. Try it without the KVM as a test... (I'm not currently using mine because it has a lot of oddand/or aberrant behaviors...) Rick Glazier From: DSinc Ever since I got my Dell E207WFPc 20 wide-screen panel, I have noticed that web pages always display too wide. I always get the bar at the bottom of the screen display to move Right to see the REST of the page. I can not seem to stop this behavior. Can I? The Panel's native resolution is 1680x1050x60. I use it with 1024x768x60. I also use analog because my KVM switch will NOT do DVI cabling. Two of my video cards will not do 1680x1050x60 at all. And, I can not read stuff comfortably at this default resolution even on the one PC that does have a video card able to do this resolution. Is there any fix, or, happy medium I can try? Thanks, Duncan
Re: [H] Odd viewing?
Rick, I will try as you suggest. Nothing I read in my Avocent docs indicate that the KVM switch mucks around with whatever RES I set in Windows. But stuff happens! I will check.. :) Best, Duncan Rick Glazier wrote: 1024x768 works here on my CRT, for all browser based WEB pages. Only if I go below that (smaller numbers), (and then not always) do I have to scroll side to side in a Browser. I'll check later on my Laptops and W/S LCDs, but this seems nuts a W/S LCD would display in such a non-W/S way... I would say the problem rests with the analog output being set wrong, or the KVM not emulating the correct res. Try it without the KVM as a test... (I'm not currently using mine because it has a lot of oddand/or aberrant behaviors...) Rick Glazier From: DSinc Ever since I got my Dell E207WFPc 20 wide-screen panel, I have noticed that web pages always display too wide. I always get the bar at the bottom of the screen display to move Right to see the REST of the page. I can not seem to stop this behavior. Can I? The Panel's native resolution is 1680x1050x60. I use it with 1024x768x60. I also use analog because my KVM switch will NOT do DVI cabling. Two of my video cards will not do 1680x1050x60 at all. And, I can not read stuff comfortably at this default resolution even on the one PC that does have a video card able to do this resolution. Is there any fix, or, happy medium I can try? Thanks, Duncan
Re: [H] Odd Safe Mode problem
I see some of us are still doing surgery! If you had the SHA1 or MD5 fingerprints for all the relative files from an identical system, and IF you're using a known clean system to do the scanning so you can trust the signatures. You you could find the exact file by eliminating all the known good ones. PITA but if you're not going to just make a good customized windows install CD to make surgery not worth it then you have to invest time at the other end. There is no free fingerprint DB that I know of, but it's easy enough to generate flat-file DB with MD5Deep keep it on hand for this kind of forensics. Same app can then be used to list only the files that don't match the DB. Thane Sherrington wrote: Hello All, Here's an odd problem - I have a system (this is actually the second machine to do this) - after removing infections, the system boots to Safe Mode fine, I get that message saying Safe Mode...blah blah blah... and you have to click Yes to run in Safe Mode or No to run System Restore. I click Yes, the desktop comes up, but when I try to run anything (as an example, if I click Start/Run and try to run CMD), the screen goes blank and then the Safe Mode message comes up again as if I had just booted up. I'm thinking a file has been damaged in Windows. I tried System Restore with no luck, and on the last machine I reinstalled Windows, but if I could replace the damaged file and have a functioning Windows, I'd rather do that. Anyone have any ideas or see this before? T
[H] Odd Safe Mode problem
Hello All, Here's an odd problem - I have a system (this is actually the second machine to do this) - after removing infections, the system boots to Safe Mode fine, I get that message saying Safe Mode...blah blah blah... and you have to click Yes to run in Safe Mode or No to run System Restore. I click Yes, the desktop comes up, but when I try to run anything (as an example, if I click Start/Run and try to run CMD), the screen goes blank and then the Safe Mode message comes up again as if I had just booted up. I'm thinking a file has been damaged in Windows. I tried System Restore with no luck, and on the last machine I reinstalled Windows, but if I could replace the damaged file and have a functioning Windows, I'd rather do that. Anyone have any ideas or see this before? T
Re: [H] Odd Safe Mode problem
Thane, Repair Install..?? Maybe. Best, Duncan At 16:37 04/07/2009 -0300, you wrote: Hello All, Here's an odd problem - I have a system (this is actually the second machine to do this) - after removing infections, the system boots to Safe Mode fine, I get that message saying Safe Mode...blah blah blah... and you have to click Yes to run in Safe Mode or No to run System Restore. I click Yes, the desktop comes up, but when I try to run anything (as an example, if I click Start/Run and try to run CMD), the screen goes blank and then the Safe Mode message comes up again as if I had just booted up. I'm thinking a file has been damaged in Windows. I tried System Restore with no luck, and on the last machine I reinstalled Windows, but if I could replace the damaged file and have a functioning Windows, I'd rather do that. Anyone have any ideas or see this before? T __ NOD32 3993 (20090407) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
Re: [H] Odd?
At 12:42 AM 17/10/2008, DHSinclair wrote: Trying to build Wxp on a pretty old stack of hdw. Abit bx6-r2, P2-450, 512mb ram, seagate 160gb pata drive. Yes, I know, how silly can I be? when I started 6 hours ago, bios said the hd was LBA UD33 136gb and winxp formatted 152618mb. 152.618GB. OK. now that I've killed the 1st install that did not complete, winxp is now formatting 152617mb. 152.617GB. Hmm.? Where did I loose 1mb of disk space? Should I tool-wash the hd again? Sounds like a difference in calculating MB and GB to me. T
Re: [H] Odd?
my memory may be a little fussy but not kidding, this chip was in a bx6 in a customer system with xp until the mb blew caps. check in bios and see if 133 is available. Like I said, fussy. Still have manuals and original driver disks. Have a BH6 dual in the pile also. I do have slot one cpu's, probably 450, 500, 600, would have to dig in the pile. have a bunch of antique cpu's :-D saving for the gold I think. Have some slotkets too. Be a good box for dos and Aces of the Pacific games. fred At 11:33 PM 10/16/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Forc5, RU kidding me? A 1Ghz chip for a Bx6r2? Nowhere in my UM do I see a mention of 1Ghz.. Really? This prick is an old slot ?something? I forget. It has been too many years..sorry ATM the P2-450 plays happy where it is. Just trying to find IT an OS... Perhaps a P2-450 and m/b will not do WinXP? ATM, I just do not know. In the AM I will try Win2Kpro... after I wash the new drive... LOL! For MS, I find this really strange...but not completely, and, I will continue my research; lame as it may be! All of you Vista users need not reply. I really do not want to drown in all the, get on with it for Gawd's sake! business. Thank you very much, Duncan At 21:03 10/16/2008 -0700, you wrote: want a 1GHZ chip for that MB ? not officially but as I recall would run 133 fsb. XP should do fine on that, worried about 1 meg. wipe the drive with zap. :-D do fast format. fred At 08:42 PM 10/16/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Trying to build Wxp on a pretty old stack of hdw. Abit bx6-r2, P2-450, 512mb ram, seagate 160gb pata drive. Yes, I know, how silly can I be? when I started 6 hours ago, bios said the hd was LBA UD33 136gb and winxp formatted 152618mb. 152.618GB. OK. now that I've killed the 1st install that did not complete, winxp is now formatting 152617mb. 152.617GB. Hmm.? Where did I loose 1mb of disk space? Should I tool-wash the hd again? Thanks, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Education which is not modern, faces the organic fate. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Nothing is impossible for he who doesn't have to do it.
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At 02:01 PM 10/17/2008, you wrote: Can run a 1 gigger in the bx6, got one did that. Has to be good ram tho. There is a slot one 1Ghz that will run in the BX6, and that was the fastest slot one to come out. You can buy one on Ebay for 20 bucks. http://tinyurl.com/6z48e3 However, the fastest thing to run in a BX6 was a Celeron 1.1GHz at 100FSB with a slot one to socket 370 adaptor card. These cards simply rerouted the pins. It was a problem free setup. ASUS made the best adaptor cards. There was also a company that made a special slot one card that worked with a Cel 1.4 or a PIII 1.4, but that was more problematic in that the board itself wasn't designed to run with these CPUs and the card did the translation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:51 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Odd? my memory may be a little fussy but not kidding, this chip was in a bx6 in a customer system with xp until the mb blew caps. check in bios and see if 133 is available. Like I said, fussy. Still have manuals and original driver disks. Have a BH6 dual in the pile also. I do have slot one cpu's, probably 450, 500, 600, would have to dig in the pile. have a bunch of antique cpu's :-D saving for the gold I think. Have some slotkets too. Be a good box for dos and Aces of the Pacific games. fred At 11:33 PM 10/16/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Forc5, RU kidding me? A 1Ghz chip for a Bx6r2? Nowhere in my UM do I see a mention of 1Ghz.. Really? This prick is an old slot ?something? I forget. It has been too many years..sorry ATM the P2-450 plays happy where it is. Just trying to find IT an OS... Perhaps a P2-450 and m/b will not do WinXP? ATM, I just do not know. In the AM I will try Win2Kpro... after I wash the new drive... LOL! For MS, I find this really strange...but not completely, and, I will continue my research; lame as it may be! All of you Vista users need not reply. I really do not want to drown in all the, get on with it for Gawd's sake! business. Thank you very much, Duncan At 21:03 10/16/2008 -0700, you wrote: want a 1GHZ chip for that MB ? not officially but as I recall would run 133 fsb. XP should do fine on that, worried about 1 meg. wipe the drive with zap. :-D do fast format. fred At 08:42 PM 10/16/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Trying to build Wxp on a pretty old stack of hdw. Abit bx6-r2, P2-450, 512mb ram, seagate 160gb pata drive. Yes, I know, how silly can I be? when I started 6 hours ago, bios said the hd was LBA UD33 136gb and winxp formatted 152618mb. 152.618GB. OK. now that I've killed the 1st install that did not complete, winxp is now formatting 152617mb. 152.617GB. Hmm.? Where did I loose 1mb of disk space? Should I tool-wash the hd again? Thanks, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Education which is not modern, faces the organic fate. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Nothing is impossible for he who doesn't have to do it.
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Can run a 1 gigger in the bx6, got one did that. Has to be good ram tho. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:51 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Odd? my memory may be a little fussy but not kidding, this chip was in a bx6 in a customer system with xp until the mb blew caps. check in bios and see if 133 is available. Like I said, fussy. Still have manuals and original driver disks. Have a BH6 dual in the pile also. I do have slot one cpu's, probably 450, 500, 600, would have to dig in the pile. have a bunch of antique cpu's :-D saving for the gold I think. Have some slotkets too. Be a good box for dos and Aces of the Pacific games. fred At 11:33 PM 10/16/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Forc5, RU kidding me? A 1Ghz chip for a Bx6r2? Nowhere in my UM do I see a mention of 1Ghz.. Really? This prick is an old slot ?something? I forget. It has been too many years..sorry ATM the P2-450 plays happy where it is. Just trying to find IT an OS... Perhaps a P2-450 and m/b will not do WinXP? ATM, I just do not know. In the AM I will try Win2Kpro... after I wash the new drive... LOL! For MS, I find this really strange...but not completely, and, I will continue my research; lame as it may be! All of you Vista users need not reply. I really do not want to drown in all the, get on with it for Gawd's sake! business. Thank you very much, Duncan At 21:03 10/16/2008 -0700, you wrote: want a 1GHZ chip for that MB ? not officially but as I recall would run 133 fsb. XP should do fine on that, worried about 1 meg. wipe the drive with zap. :-D do fast format. fred At 08:42 PM 10/16/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Trying to build Wxp on a pretty old stack of hdw. Abit bx6-r2, P2-450, 512mb ram, seagate 160gb pata drive. Yes, I know, how silly can I be? when I started 6 hours ago, bios said the hd was LBA UD33 136gb and winxp formatted 152618mb. 152.618GB. OK. now that I've killed the 1st install that did not complete, winxp is now formatting 152617mb. 152.617GB. Hmm.? Where did I loose 1mb of disk space? Should I tool-wash the hd again? Thanks, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Education which is not modern, faces the organic fate. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Nothing is impossible for he who doesn't have to do it.
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Man, I loved that mobo. I have fond memories of running a 300 Mhz Celeron overclocked to 800 Mhz on one of those puppies. Ran like a dream.--- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 (Canada) +1 (202) 683-8534 (USA) On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: At 02:01 PM 10/17/2008, you wrote: Can run a 1 gigger in the bx6, got one did that. Has to be good ram tho. There is a slot one 1Ghz that will run in the BX6, and that was the fastest slot one to come out. You can buy one on Ebay for 20 bucks. http://tinyurl.com/6z48e3 However, the fastest thing to run in a BX6 was a Celeron 1.1GHz at 100FSB with a slot one to socket 370 adaptor card. These cards simply rerouted the pins. It was a problem free setup. ASUS made the best adaptor cards. There was also a company that made a special slot one card that worked with a Cel 1.4 or a PIII 1.4, but that was more problematic in that the board itself wasn't designed to run with these CPUs and the card did the translation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of FORC5 Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:51 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Odd? my memory may be a little fussy but not kidding, this chip was in a bx6 in a customer system with xp until the mb blew caps. check in bios and see if 133 is available. Like I said, fussy. Still have manuals and original driver disks. Have a BH6 dual in the pile also. I do have slot one cpu's, probably 450, 500, 600, would have to dig in the pile. have a bunch of antique cpu's :-D saving for the gold I think. Have some slotkets too. Be a good box for dos and Aces of the Pacific games. fred At 11:33 PM 10/16/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Forc5, RU kidding me? A 1Ghz chip for a Bx6r2? Nowhere in my UM do I see a mention of 1Ghz.. Really? This prick is an old slot ?something? I forget. It has been too many years..sorry ATM the P2-450 plays happy where it is. Just trying to find IT an OS... Perhaps a P2-450 and m/b will not do WinXP? ATM, I just do not know. In the AM I will try Win2Kpro... after I wash the new drive... LOL! For MS, I find this really strange...but not completely, and, I will continue my research; lame as it may be! All of you Vista users need not reply. I really do not want to drown in all the, get on with it for Gawd's sake! business. Thank you very much, Duncan At 21:03 10/16/2008 -0700, you wrote: want a 1GHZ chip for that MB ? not officially but as I recall would run 133 fsb. XP should do fine on that, worried about 1 meg. wipe the drive with zap. :-D do fast format. fred At 08:42 PM 10/16/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Trying to build Wxp on a pretty old stack of hdw. Abit bx6-r2, P2-450, 512mb ram, seagate 160gb pata drive. Yes, I know, how silly can I be? when I started 6 hours ago, bios said the hd was LBA UD33 136gb and winxp formatted 152618mb. 152.618GB. OK. now that I've killed the 1st install that did not complete, winxp is now formatting 152617mb. 152.617GB. Hmm.? Where did I loose 1mb of disk space? Should I tool-wash the hd again? Thanks, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Education which is not modern, faces the organic fate. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Nothing is impossible for he who doesn't have to do it.
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:33:10 -0400 Brian Weeden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, I loved that mobo. I have fond memories of running a 300 Mhz Celeron overclocked to 800 Mhz on one of those puppies. Ran like a dream.--- Ah yes, the Celeron days... http://www.alanger.net/pc/slot/index.html al
[H] Odd?
Trying to build Wxp on a pretty old stack of hdw. Abit bx6-r2, P2-450, 512mb ram, seagate 160gb pata drive. Yes, I know, how silly can I be? when I started 6 hours ago, bios said the hd was LBA UD33 136gb and winxp formatted 152618mb. 152.618GB. OK. now that I've killed the 1st install that did not complete, winxp is now formatting 152617mb. 152.617GB. Hmm.? Where did I loose 1mb of disk space? Should I tool-wash the hd again? Thanks, Duncan
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want a 1GHZ chip for that MB ? not officially but as I recall would run 133 fsb. XP should do fine on that, worried about 1 meg. wipe the drive with zap. :-D do fast format. fred At 08:42 PM 10/16/2008, DHSinclair Poked the stick with: Trying to build Wxp on a pretty old stack of hdw. Abit bx6-r2, P2-450, 512mb ram, seagate 160gb pata drive. Yes, I know, how silly can I be? when I started 6 hours ago, bios said the hd was LBA UD33 136gb and winxp formatted 152618mb. 152.618GB. OK. now that I've killed the 1st install that did not complete, winxp is now formatting 152617mb. 152.617GB. Hmm.? Where did I loose 1mb of disk space? Should I tool-wash the hd again? Thanks, Duncan -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Education which is not modern, faces the organic fate.
[H] odd notice
I have another old machine (w2ksp4) that is my gaming device. It now boots up and gives me a very black screen indicating it no longer likes its' boot.ini file. It moves/defaults to its' win.ini file. Yet it boots completely up to the login screen and beyond. Curious. Am I looking at a potential hd failure? (It is one of my pending conversions from scsi to pata/sata.) If necessary, I can work on sending current text of the boot.ini. I only see one odd parameter. I do not know how to parse this file. I really let w2k do its' business and go on with life. Opinions? Thank you. Best, Duncan
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Hello Wayne, Friday, February 1, 2008, 10:08:34 AM, you wrote: At 05:26 PM 1/30/2008, Joe User typed: Standards are solidified now? According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n Status Work on the 802.11n standard dates back to 2004. The draft is expected to be finalized in November 2008 with publication in July 2009, but major manufacturers are now releasing 'pre-N', 'draft n' or 'MIMO-based' products based on early specs. These vendors anticipate the final version will not be significantly different from the draft, and in a bid to get the early mover advantage, are pushing ahead with the technology. A firmware update should be able to make current Draft-N hardware compatible with the final version. So the answer is no but I sure do love 144Mbps that I'm getting with my configuration hope that I get a little faster as firmware software will improve for both the Router WNIC . Yes, I'll have to keep checking for firmware updates for the WNIC the router but that's no big deal, IMHO It sure beats the 11 Mbps that the 802.11G card that my B-I-L gets in his used Gateway 450 ROG w/ a Pentium M 1400 MHz 512meg laptop that he bought from his coworker that wanted a new laptop. He could add more ram. The good news is that he bought it for his grand daughter to pound on for only $300 from a coworker. And that's why I said Ugh N. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
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At 04:14 PM 30/01/2008, Wayne Johnson wrote: At 08:29 PM 1/29/2008, Joe User typed: Ugh N - not doing it for awhile. It works just fine here so I don't know why the Ugh. The Intel 4965 chip doesn't work reliably with G routers unless you use the Intel connection software, I've found. But that's not a big deal. I've not gotten a chance to play with an N router yet, and I won't bother with one for myself until I replace my laptop in the next year or two. T
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Hello Wayne, Wednesday, January 30, 2008, 2:14:53 PM, you wrote: At 08:29 PM 1/29/2008, Joe User typed: Ugh N - not doing it for awhile. It works just fine here so I don't know why the Ugh. Standards are solidified now? -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
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Hello Thane, Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 12:56:51 PM, you wrote: I have a laptop that will surf fine when plugged into a cable, but on wireless will only ping and surf to IP addresses (it doesn't want to resolve a domain name.) I've tried hardwiring DNS numbers into the TCP/IP for the wireless connection, but there was no change. I also tried turning off the DNS client service, but that made no change. The LSP stack appears to be fine. Anyone have any ideas? Already redid their network drivers? The software they use to manage wireless (and they all have their own crap) is probably the issue. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
[H] Odd network problem
I have a laptop that will surf fine when plugged into a cable, but on wireless will only ping and surf to IP addresses (it doesn't want to resolve a domain name.) I've tried hardwiring DNS numbers into the TCP/IP for the wireless connection, but there was no change. I also tried turning off the DNS client service, but that made no change. The LSP stack appears to be fine. Anyone have any ideas? T
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The Intel 2100 is an 802.11b NIC, with a max speed of 11 Mbit/s. Hence why XP was saying the connection was excellent. Wayne Johnson wrote: At 03:59 PM 1/29/2008, Joe User typed: Already redid their network drivers? The software they use to manage wireless (and they all have their own crap) is probably the issue. Just had the same issue with an Intel 2100 WiFi Nic. The drivers were old didn't supt. WPA but it did once I upgraded them altho I don't know why XP calls 11Mbps an excellent connection. I have an Intel 4965 it gets at least 54 Mbps even when the other laptop is connected it's also considered an excellent connection. I believe they're talking about it not dropping packets versus speed but I still wouldn't call it 11 Mbps excellent. ---+-- I'm a geek that loves to tweak.
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Hello Ben, Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 4:21:14 PM, you wrote: The Intel 2100 is an 802.11b NIC, with a max speed of 11 Mbit/s. Hence why XP was saying the connection was excellent. It focuses on the quality of the connection. 11/54/etc whatever protocol is uses it rates - TMK it won't say 11 - u can better on 54 or anything to that effect. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
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Hello Ben, Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 4:37:15 PM, you wrote: I suppose you could test by cranking down the speed on the AP (if it supports it) and see what Windows had to say about the quality of the connection. Already have. Maybe it's different for each software/program/driver. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
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Hello Wayne,
Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 6:48:40 PM, you wrote:
I really don't care as long as it works with my B-I-L's cheap Netgear
Router {the model # escapes me atm] but apparently it's working fine
with the Linksys Wireless-N Gigabit Security Router with VPN
WRVS4400N http://preview.tinyurl.com/3b2lka or
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2childpagename=US%2FLayoutcid=1154659755942pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapperlid=5594254480B05.
I didn't realize that I had the router set that low for 802.11b. I
did upgrade the WNIC's software in order to WPA as I didn't want to
change such a good router down to WEP as that would've defeated the
purpose of buying it.
Ugh N - not doing it for awhile.
--
Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
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At 04:59 PM 29/01/2008, Joe User wrote: Already redid their network drivers? The software they use to manage wireless (and they all have their own crap) is probably the issue. That fixed it. The Windows Wireless stuff works fine. Thanks. T
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Singnal strength, not speed defines the quality of the link. Wayne Johnson wrote: At 03:59 PM 1/29/2008, Joe User typed: Already redid their network drivers? The software they use to manage wireless (and they all have their own crap) is probably the issue. Just had the same issue with an Intel 2100 WiFi Nic. The drivers were old didn't supt. WPA but it did once I upgraded them altho I don't know why XP calls 11Mbps an excellent connection. I have an Intel 4965 it gets at least 54 Mbps even when the other laptop is connected it's also considered an excellent connection. I believe they're talking about it not dropping packets versus speed but I still wouldn't call it 11 Mbps excellent. ---+-- I'm a geek that loves to tweak. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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Hello Thane, Tuesday, January 29, 2008, 4:50:15 PM, you wrote: That fixed it. The Windows Wireless stuff works fine. Yeah, I used to not care for windows wireless zero config having used it off and on now and having seen the other crap out there, it's not to bad. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
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Signal strength, not speed defines the quality of the link. Wayne Johnson wrote: At 03:59 PM 1/29/2008, Joe User typed: Already redid their network drivers? The software they use to manage wireless (and they all have their own crap) is probably the issue. Just had the same issue with an Intel 2100 WiFi Nic. The drivers were old didn't supt. WPA but it did once I upgraded them altho I don't know why XP calls 11Mbps an excellent connection. I have an Intel 4965 it gets at least 54 Mbps even when the other laptop is connected it's also considered an excellent connection. I believe they're talking about it not dropping packets versus speed but I still wouldn't call it 11 Mbps excellent. ---+-- I'm a geek that loves to tweak. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Sure, I do get that, but during my explore of the CD there were several dot-ini files and script-looking files that seemed to indicate a bunch of 'branded' stuff would get installed on the PC if/when I launched the installer. I really wish I understood more about reading program-blish, but I'll defer to the List. Perhaps I'm just too cautious. In any case, the link is up and running well again. The new IP series is working well. Many thanks to all who helped, suggested, recc'd, queried, etc. Without this List, I would most likely still be scratching my head and using my dialup modem. :) Best, Duncan At 17:45 10/22/2007 -0400, you wrote: Main purpose of the CD is to create your DSL account. Once that's done you don't need any part of it again. JRS wrote: Not too cautious to my way of thinking. I have never to this day installed the software or CD pacbell wanted me to for my DSL. I just found the settings pages online and set up windows with the proper DNS and IP settings manually. I refuse to use those install CD's, they all seem to install junk I do not want, like branded versions of IE, etc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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OK. I get the 'create your account' part, but, I used my dialup modem to go to the ATT and BellSouth sites. My account was already setup. The email sent to me contained a 'use once' password so I could set my master password for dsl (?) and another pw so I could use the ATT/Bellsouth webmail portal/ISP. I set all this up before I ever plugged in the dsl modem. I believe I was 'set-up' before I even tried high speed the first time. It works. Best, Dunan At 18:37 10/22/2007 -0400, you wrote: That's true.. :) In the old days you used to have to call when you signed up and they made your ID right then over the phone, now the CD has SW that does it. :) I used to have an URL to the SBC website where you could enter and get your ID and such without having to use the CD.. Not sure where I put that link anymore... -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. Main purpose of the CD is to create your DSL account. Once that's done you don't need any part of it again. This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
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Thanks Gary, That is what my explore of the BellSouth CD showed me. I am happy I never launched it. But, I am still wondering what to do with the huge (6124MB) dot-re~ file on my root hd partition? Maybe in a few more hours I'll get the courage to delete it... :) Best, Duncan At 00:10 10/23/2007 -0400, Gary wrote: The problem is that the CD installs all sorts of unnecessary crap. It is best not to use the CD. http://www.dslreports.com/faq/5764 Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM] -- From: j maccraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main purpose of the CD is to create your DSL account. Once that's done you don't need any part of it again. JRS wrote: Not too cautious to my way of thinking. I have never to this day installed the software or CD pacbell wanted me to for my DSL. I just found the settings pages online and set up windows with the proper DNS and IP settings manually. I refuse to use those install CD's, they all seem to install junk I do not want, like branded versions of IE, etc This email scanned for Viruses and Spam by ZCloud.net
Re: [H] odd file found?
Main purpose of the CD is to create your DSL account. Once that's done you don't need any part of it again. JRS wrote: Not too cautious to my way of thinking. I have never to this day installed the software or CD pacbell wanted me to for my DSL. I just found the settings pages online and set up windows with the proper DNS and IP settings manually. I refuse to use those install CD's, they all seem to install junk I do not want, like branded versions of IE, etc __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
