Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
For the few still using it on this mailing list, just letting you know I released the update. Changelog: - Fixed crash when trying to reload the plugin after it has been auto updated - Added a banlist system. Cheaters using prediction hacks and anti-speedhack bypass hacks will be automatically banned if aac_prediction_ban and aac_speedhackbypass_ban are set to 1 (default). aac_banmethod 0 uses the local banlist, aac_banmethod 1 uses SourceBans. For the local banlist, the banned cheaters can be seen with aac_showbans, or by opening the aac_banned.txt file in the tf directory. You can also remove a ban with the aac_removeban command. - Improved autoshoot detections, they should now be more precise - Added invalid viewangles detections (still experimental, will only log for now) - Added aac_logname to change the logfile’s name, useful when running multiple servers from a same directory. 2013/7/24 AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com I guess it's just a matter of calling the sm_ban command? I could add that, wouldn't take long :) 2013/7/24 ics i...@ics-base.net Got plans to do SourceBans integration instead of plain file? Would help sharing the lists between multiple servers. -ics AnAkIn kirjoitti: Viewangles detections are common in a lot of anti-cheats. And no, some of my detections are done differently than SMAC ones. The problem with SMAC is that many hacks can detect if SMAC is running on the server and just disable the detected features, many cheaters don't get banned and keep cheating. 2013/7/24 Weasel wea...@weaselslair.com Doesn't SMAC (SourceMod Anti-Cheat) already take cover this stuff? I seem to recall view-angles stuff in there. https://forums.alliedmods.net/**forumdisplay.php?f=133https://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=133 https://bitbucket.org/**psychonic/smac/wiki/Homehttps://bitbucket.org/psychonic/smac/wiki/Home __**__** Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin AnAkIn Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:55:39 -0700 If anyone on this list still uses it, I’ll release an update soon and I’m looking for some beta testers. Let me know with a private email if you’re interested. Changelog: - Fixed crash when trying to reload the plugin after it has been auto updated - Added a banlist system. Cheaters using prediction hacks and anti-speedhack bypass hacks will be automatically banned if aac_prediction_ban and aac_speedhackbypass_ban are set to 1 (default). The banned cheaters can be seen with aac_showbans, or by opening the aac_banned.txt file in the tf directory. You can also remove a ban with the aac_removeban command. - Improved triggerbot detection, it should now be more precise - Added invalid viewangles detection (beta though, needs testing) __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
If anyone on this list still uses it, I’ll release an update soon and I’m looking for some beta testers. Let me know with a private email if you’re interested. Changelog: - Fixed crash when trying to reload the plugin after it has been auto updated - Added a banlist system. Cheaters using prediction hacks and anti-speedhack bypass hacks will be automatically banned if aac_prediction_ban and aac_speedhackbypass_ban are set to 1 (default). The banned cheaters can be seen with aac_showbans, or by opening the aac_banned.txt file in the tf directory. You can also remove a ban with the aac_removeban command. - Improved triggerbot detection, it should now be more precise - Added invalid viewangles detection (beta though, needs testing) 2012/10/27 AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com Update - Compatibility with the new TF2 update If you have a Linux server, you might need to redownload: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip 2012/9/12 doc drga...@gmail.com From what I gathered the name protection is one of those things that is nice to have because it's easy to implement, but it usually won't happen anymore; mostly because 'name' doesn't work in orangebox games. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:54 AM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: You can't change your in-game name with name in Orange Box engine games. 2012/9/12 Herover leon.l.a.niel...@gmail.com 2012/9/12 Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: - Detect name hacks (different name in-game than on Steam) What is the problem with this? I assume it's done by using the name console command from your game client. I fail to see why this is a hack or cheat or whatever... As a alternative, it could be done by querying the steam community with a steam id, which is completely legal. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Doesn't SMAC (SourceMod Anti-Cheat) already take cover this stuff? I seem to recall view-angles stuff in there. https://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=133 https://bitbucket.org/psychonic/smac/wiki/Home Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin AnAkIn Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:55:39 -0700 If anyone on this list still uses it, I’ll release an update soon and I’m looking for some beta testers. Let me know with a private email if you’re interested. Changelog: - Fixed crash when trying to reload the plugin after it has been auto updated - Added a banlist system. Cheaters using prediction hacks and anti-speedhack bypass hacks will be automatically banned if aac_prediction_ban and aac_speedhackbypass_ban are set to 1 (default). The banned cheaters can be seen with aac_showbans, or by opening the aac_banned.txt file in the tf directory. You can also remove a ban with the aac_removeban command. - Improved triggerbot detection, it should now be more precise - Added invalid viewangles detection (beta though, needs testing) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Viewangles detections are common in a lot of anti-cheats. And no, some of my detections are done differently than SMAC ones. The problem with SMAC is that many hacks can detect if SMAC is running on the server and just disable the detected features, many cheaters don't get banned and keep cheating. 2013/7/24 Weasel wea...@weaselslair.com Doesn't SMAC (SourceMod Anti-Cheat) already take cover this stuff? I seem to recall view-angles stuff in there. https://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=133 https://bitbucket.org/psychonic/smac/wiki/Home Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin AnAkIn Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:55:39 -0700 If anyone on this list still uses it, I’ll release an update soon and I’m looking for some beta testers. Let me know with a private email if you’re interested. Changelog: - Fixed crash when trying to reload the plugin after it has been auto updated - Added a banlist system. Cheaters using prediction hacks and anti-speedhack bypass hacks will be automatically banned if aac_prediction_ban and aac_speedhackbypass_ban are set to 1 (default). The banned cheaters can be seen with aac_showbans, or by opening the aac_banned.txt file in the tf directory. You can also remove a ban with the aac_removeban command. - Improved triggerbot detection, it should now be more precise - Added invalid viewangles detection (beta though, needs testing) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Got plans to do SourceBans integration instead of plain file? Would help sharing the lists between multiple servers. -ics AnAkIn kirjoitti: Viewangles detections are common in a lot of anti-cheats. And no, some of my detections are done differently than SMAC ones. The problem with SMAC is that many hacks can detect if SMAC is running on the server and just disable the detected features, many cheaters don't get banned and keep cheating. 2013/7/24 Weasel wea...@weaselslair.com Doesn't SMAC (SourceMod Anti-Cheat) already take cover this stuff? I seem to recall view-angles stuff in there. https://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=133 https://bitbucket.org/psychonic/smac/wiki/Home Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin AnAkIn Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:55:39 -0700 If anyone on this list still uses it, I’ll release an update soon and I’m looking for some beta testers. Let me know with a private email if you’re interested. Changelog: - Fixed crash when trying to reload the plugin after it has been auto updated - Added a banlist system. Cheaters using prediction hacks and anti-speedhack bypass hacks will be automatically banned if aac_prediction_ban and aac_speedhackbypass_ban are set to 1 (default). The banned cheaters can be seen with aac_showbans, or by opening the aac_banned.txt file in the tf directory. You can also remove a ban with the aac_removeban command. - Improved triggerbot detection, it should now be more precise - Added invalid viewangles detection (beta though, needs testing) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
I guess it's just a matter of calling the sm_ban command? I could add that, wouldn't take long :) 2013/7/24 ics i...@ics-base.net Got plans to do SourceBans integration instead of plain file? Would help sharing the lists between multiple servers. -ics AnAkIn kirjoitti: Viewangles detections are common in a lot of anti-cheats. And no, some of my detections are done differently than SMAC ones. The problem with SMAC is that many hacks can detect if SMAC is running on the server and just disable the detected features, many cheaters don't get banned and keep cheating. 2013/7/24 Weasel wea...@weaselslair.com Doesn't SMAC (SourceMod Anti-Cheat) already take cover this stuff? I seem to recall view-angles stuff in there. https://forums.alliedmods.net/**forumdisplay.php?f=133https://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=133 https://bitbucket.org/**psychonic/smac/wiki/Homehttps://bitbucket.org/psychonic/smac/wiki/Home __**__** Re: [hlds] [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin AnAkIn Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:55:39 -0700 If anyone on this list still uses it, I’ll release an update soon and I’m looking for some beta testers. Let me know with a private email if you’re interested. Changelog: - Fixed crash when trying to reload the plugin after it has been auto updated - Added a banlist system. Cheaters using prediction hacks and anti-speedhack bypass hacks will be automatically banned if aac_prediction_ban and aac_speedhackbypass_ban are set to 1 (default). The banned cheaters can be seen with aac_showbans, or by opening the aac_banned.txt file in the tf directory. You can also remove a ban with the aac_removeban command. - Improved triggerbot detection, it should now be more precise - Added invalid viewangles detection (beta though, needs testing) __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Update - Compatibility with the new TF2 update If you have a Linux server, you might need to redownload: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip 2012/9/12 doc drga...@gmail.com From what I gathered the name protection is one of those things that is nice to have because it's easy to implement, but it usually won't happen anymore; mostly because 'name' doesn't work in orangebox games. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:54 AM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: You can't change your in-game name with name in Orange Box engine games. 2012/9/12 Herover leon.l.a.niel...@gmail.com 2012/9/12 Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: - Detect name hacks (different name in-game than on Steam) What is the problem with this? I assume it's done by using the name console command from your game client. I fail to see why this is a hack or cheat or whatever... As a alternative, it could be done by querying the steam community with a steam id, which is completely legal. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
2012/9/12 Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: - Detect name hacks (different name in-game than on Steam) What is the problem with this? I assume it's done by using the name console command from your game client. I fail to see why this is a hack or cheat or whatever... As a alternative, it could be done by querying the steam community with a steam id, which is completely legal. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
You can't change your in-game name with name in Orange Box engine games. 2012/9/12 Herover leon.l.a.niel...@gmail.com 2012/9/12 Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: - Detect name hacks (different name in-game than on Steam) What is the problem with this? I assume it's done by using the name console command from your game client. I fail to see why this is a hack or cheat or whatever... As a alternative, it could be done by querying the steam community with a steam id, which is completely legal. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
From what I gathered the name protection is one of those things that is nice to have because it's easy to implement, but it usually won't happen anymore; mostly because 'name' doesn't work in orangebox games. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:54 AM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: You can't change your in-game name with name in Orange Box engine games. 2012/9/12 Herover leon.l.a.niel...@gmail.com 2012/9/12 Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: - Detect name hacks (different name in-game than on Steam) What is the problem with this? I assume it's done by using the name console command from your game client. I fail to see why this is a hack or cheat or whatever... As a alternative, it could be done by querying the steam community with a steam id, which is completely legal. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
There are many hacks that change your nickname without changing it on Steam Community. The detection is not perfect ATM though, because there are many server side filters which cause your name to be a little different than the Steam one. You can still check manually and see if the name is really totally different than the Steam one. 2012/9/12 doc drga...@gmail.com From what I gathered the name protection is one of those things that is nice to have because it's easy to implement, but it usually won't happen anymore; mostly because 'name' doesn't work in orangebox games. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:54 AM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: You can't change your in-game name with name in Orange Box engine games. 2012/9/12 Herover leon.l.a.niel...@gmail.com 2012/9/12 Rudy Bleeker rblee...@gmail.com: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: - Detect name hacks (different name in-game than on Steam) What is the problem with this? I assume it's done by using the name console command from your game client. I fail to see why this is a hack or cheat or whatever... As a alternative, it could be done by querying the steam community with a steam id, which is completely legal. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
I updated it to disable the screenshot feature under TF2 DoD S. Still available on CSS. -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
CSS Just updated. Perhaps you could have it execute jpeg command :) Most of the times it will work. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:28 AM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: I updated it to disable the screenshot feature under TF2 DoD S. Still available on CSS. -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
I updated it to totally remove the screenshot feature now. 2012/9/11 AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com I updated it to disable the screenshot feature under TF2 DoD S. Still available on CSS. -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
So now how does it work? Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin I updated it to totally remove the screenshot feature now. 2012/9/11 AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com I updated it to disable the screenshot feature under TF2 DoD S. Still available on CSS. -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
With the same old features as before: - Detect prediction hacks (crit hacks no spread hacks) - Detect an exploit to fully bypass Valve anti speedhack protection (which do not even really work by default) - Detect name hacks (different name in-game than on Steam) - Detect potential triggerbots based on heuristics - Detect potential auto zoom/auto stickybomb det/auto airblast/auto cloak hacks based on heuristics 2012/9/11 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com So now how does it work? Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin I updated it to totally remove the screenshot feature now. 2012/9/11 AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com I updated it to disable the screenshot feature under TF2 DoD S. Still available on CSS. -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: - Detect name hacks (different name in-game than on Steam) What is the problem with this? I assume it's done by using the name console command from your game client. I fail to see why this is a hack or cheat or whatever... -- Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything. - Floyd Dell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
You obviously haven't seen any if you do not think those aren't an issue. The name change is different from Steam name (done with a hack). They mimic existing player names but add an invisible mark to the end so players and admins might ban the wrong one. Also name changes can be rapid, like once a second so it's sometimes hard to catch these. I havent seen one for long time but there used to be lots of these. -ics 12.9.2012 3:28, Rudy Bleeker kirjoitti: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:09 PM, AnAkIn anakin...@gmail.com wrote: - Detect name hacks (different name in-game than on Steam) What is the problem with this? I assume it's done by using the name console command from your game client. I fail to see why this is a hack or cheat or whatever... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Not only that, but it sounds like there's a way for servers to force clients to execute commands not marked FCVAR_SERVER_CAN_EXECUTE, which would be a security hole. On 9/10/2012 9:47 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:35 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. The file transfer stuff is, the plugin is using an (likely now very short lived, I'd be surprised if it made the end of the week) exploit to take the actual screenshot. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:35 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
(I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
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Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what it does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins that were able to execute commands on clients. -ics 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what it does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins that were able to execute commands on clients. -ics 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Like i said you wouldn't even care if you didn't know about such feature existed on this plugin. Anakin isn't some mojo from backalley who tries to exploit everyone. Plugin takes screenshots that reveal cheaters. Nothing else. Granted, you don't know that for sure as it isn't open source but that's what it does. I¨'m all in for extra tools to get cheaters out as we ban more cheaters than VAC catches (if we look back 2 months after ban was issued by us, VAC doesn't get nearly all of them). I'm even helping with reporting every single cheater through Steamcommunity because i know it also helps. -ics 10.9.2012 17:54, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what it does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins that were able to execute commands on clients. -ics 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
He should atleast force a tag into sv_tags when this plugin is installed so i can avoid all those servers 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: Like i said you wouldn't even care if you didn't know about such feature existed on this plugin. Anakin isn't some mojo from backalley who tries to exploit everyone. Plugin takes screenshots that reveal cheaters. Nothing else. Granted, you don't know that for sure as it isn't open source but that's what it does. I¨'m all in for extra tools to get cheaters out as we ban more cheaters than VAC catches (if we look back 2 months after ban was issued by us, VAC doesn't get nearly all of them). I'm even helping with reporting every single cheater through Steamcommunity because i know it also helps. -ics 10.9.2012 17:54, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what it does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins that were able to execute commands on clients. -ics 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Will alias jpeg and alias screenshot prevent this from taking screenshots? 2012/9/10 Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.com: He should atleast force a tag into sv_tags when this plugin is installed so i can avoid all those servers 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: Like i said you wouldn't even care if you didn't know about such feature existed on this plugin. Anakin isn't some mojo from backalley who tries to exploit everyone. Plugin takes screenshots that reveal cheaters. Nothing else. Granted, you don't know that for sure as it isn't open source but that's what it does. I¨'m all in for extra tools to get cheaters out as we ban more cheaters than VAC catches (if we look back 2 months after ban was issued by us, VAC doesn't get nearly all of them). I'm even helping with reporting every single cheater through Steamcommunity because i know it also helps. -ics 10.9.2012 17:54, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what it does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins that were able to execute commands on clients. -ics 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Why are you so worried about it taking screenshots? They said it can only take shots of game footage. I think this is a great idea and should not be patched. It's probably the most indefinite proof that someone is cheating. And having their steam id and everything would get them out of a community that would be better without any cheaters. If you want to use hacks, stand up your own server and pay for it then see how many people stay there. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Drogen Viech Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:19 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Will alias jpeg and alias screenshot prevent this from taking screenshots? 2012/9/10 Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.com: He should atleast force a tag into sv_tags when this plugin is installed so i can avoid all those servers 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: Like i said you wouldn't even care if you didn't know about such feature existed on this plugin. Anakin isn't some mojo from backalley who tries to exploit everyone. Plugin takes screenshots that reveal cheaters. Nothing else. Granted, you don't know that for sure as it isn't open source but that's what it does. I¨'m all in for extra tools to get cheaters out as we ban more cheaters than VAC catches (if we look back 2 months after ban was issued by us, VAC doesn't get nearly all of them). I'm even helping with reporting every single cheater through Steamcommunity because i know it also helps. -ics 10.9.2012 17:54, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what it does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins that were able to execute commands on clients. -ics 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=4067 17#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didnt understand, the detection is kind of heuristic (I wont explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so its not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. Its just a tool to help you find
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
You mean all the cheaters can avoid that server? 2012/9/10 Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.com He should atleast force a tag into sv_tags when this plugin is installed so i can avoid all those servers 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: Like i said you wouldn't even care if you didn't know about such feature existed on this plugin. Anakin isn't some mojo from backalley who tries to exploit everyone. Plugin takes screenshots that reveal cheaters. Nothing else. Granted, you don't know that for sure as it isn't open source but that's what it does. I¨'m all in for extra tools to get cheaters out as we ban more cheaters than VAC catches (if we look back 2 months after ban was issued by us, VAC doesn't get nearly all of them). I'm even helping with reporting every single cheater through Steamcommunity because i know it also helps. -ics 10.9.2012 17:54, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what it does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins that were able to execute commands on clients. -ics 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server.
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
I suppose it takes screenshots of steamchats, that is not ok. 2012/9/10 Erik-jan Riemers riem...@binkey.nl You mean all the cheaters can avoid that server? 2012/9/10 Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.com He should atleast force a tag into sv_tags when this plugin is installed so i can avoid all those servers 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: Like i said you wouldn't even care if you didn't know about such feature existed on this plugin. Anakin isn't some mojo from backalley who tries to exploit everyone. Plugin takes screenshots that reveal cheaters. Nothing else. Granted, you don't know that for sure as it isn't open source but that's what it does. I¨'m all in for extra tools to get cheaters out as we ban more cheaters than VAC catches (if we look back 2 months after ban was issued by us, VAC doesn't get nearly all of them). I'm even helping with reporting every single cheater through Steamcommunity because i know it also helps. -ics 10.9.2012 17:54, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what it does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins that were able to execute commands on clients. -ics 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Steamchat is a separate program run over top the game. If your executing a Screenshot on hl2.exe for example, it cannot interfere with steamoverlay.exe. The two cannot communicate. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Peter Svensson Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:34 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin I suppose it takes screenshots of steamchats, that is not ok. 2012/9/10 Erik-jan Riemers riem...@binkey.nl You mean all the cheaters can avoid that server? 2012/9/10 Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.com He should atleast force a tag into sv_tags when this plugin is installed so i can avoid all those servers 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: Like i said you wouldn't even care if you didn't know about such feature existed on this plugin. Anakin isn't some mojo from backalley who tries to exploit everyone. Plugin takes screenshots that reveal cheaters. Nothing else. Granted, you don't know that for sure as it isn't open source but that's what it does. I¨'m all in for extra tools to get cheaters out as we ban more cheaters than VAC catches (if we look back 2 months after ban was issued by us, VAC doesn't get nearly all of them). I'm even helping with reporting every single cheater through Steamcommunity because i know it also helps. -ics 10.9.2012 17:54, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what it does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins that were able to execute commands on clients. -ics 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows and Linux servers) The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of the plugin; you did catch that part, right? The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you may have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest thing to read. So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game client's security. On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on VAC as extra proof of cheating. No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday and already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No desktop shots, just ingame footage. -ics 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about privacy? 2012/9/8 lwf l...@rocketblast.com: http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post -406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didnt understand, the detection is kind of heuristic (I wont explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
I think you can prevent this plugin from working if you disallow your user account to write to the tf2 folder though 2012/9/10 Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.com: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
I totally forgot about cl_allowupload, derp. 2012/9/10 Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.com: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
If that is the case valve should get their shit together with their uploading/downloading policies, it's getting ridiculous 2012/9/10 ics i...@ics-base.net: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots a sec? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
When you review a screenshot looking like this... it speaks for itself: http://i.imgur.com/B9UjE.jpg On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.comwrote: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10** snapshots a sec? __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken screenshots of your game. Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients execute commands. On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots. I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get a proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: http://tftrue.redline-**utilities.net/anakinac.htmlhttp://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10** snapshots a sec? __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Would be nice if valve added a legitimate way for server admins to grab screenshots if they are going to patch this exploit. Considering the screenshots only take an in-game image the only people to have reasons against it are hackers themselves. --EHG On 9/10/2012 1:04 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote: There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken screenshots of your game. Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients execute commands. On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots. I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get a proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: http://tftrue.redline-**utilities.net/anakinac.htmlhttp://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10** snapshots a sec? __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
lol need this for CS 1.6 and CSGO.. :P Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:19:42 -0400 From: epichat...@litewin.net To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Would be nice if valve added a legitimate way for server admins to grab screenshots if they are going to patch this exploit. Considering the screenshots only take an in-game image the only people to have reasons against it are hackers themselves. --EHG On 9/10/2012 1:04 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote: There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken screenshots of your game. Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients execute commands. On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots. I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get a proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: http://tftrue.redline-**utilities.net/anakinac.htmlhttp://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10** snapshots a sec? __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
In what folder the screenshots are uploaded to the server? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Ejziponken - Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin lol need this for CS 1.6 and CSGO.. :P Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:19:42 -0400 From: epichat...@litewin.net To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Would be nice if valve added a legitimate way for server admins to grab screenshots if they are going to patch this exploit. Considering the screenshots only take an in-game image the only people to have reasons against it are hackers themselves. --EHG On 9/10/2012 1:04 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote: There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken screenshots of your game. Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients execute commands. On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots. I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get a proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: http://tftrue.redline-**utilities.net/anakinac.htmlhttp://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10** snapshots a sec? __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
2012/9/10 Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.com: There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. Additionally, it have a autoupdating feature which the author did not advertise before someone reverse engeneerd it, which doesn't make anything bether since the operator can't disable it. You are right, and its but it's really anoying that a better alternative to VAC have to be malicius in this way -- and personally I won't use it because I don't like someone to have an option to push code into my server and I don't like someone to take screencaps of my players (or me) and distributing them like this. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Screenshots are saved to tf/resource and also the player will have the shots taken from his/her screen on the same location on his/her pc. -ics 10.9.2012 21:09, Thomas K kirjoitti: In what folder the screenshots are uploaded to the server? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Ejziponken - Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin lol need this for CS 1.6 and CSGO.. :P Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:19:42 -0400 From: epichat...@litewin.net To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Would be nice if valve added a legitimate way for server admins to grab screenshots if they are going to patch this exploit. Considering the screenshots only take an in-game image the only people to have reasons against it are hackers themselves. --EHG On 9/10/2012 1:04 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote: There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken screenshots of your game. Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients execute commands. On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots. I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get a proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: http://tftrue.redline-**utilities.net/anakinac.htmlhttp://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10** snapshots a sec? __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/** hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
This is obviously not using the screenshot command, rather the screenshot client function call. As well as the INetChannel SendFile function to upload the file. I wouldn't expect VALVe to update this function, this also used to upload spray tags to the server, and it has a very secure extension block that won't let you upload almost anything (Except for screenshots in this case) @Anakin: If I were you, I would find a way to get the stack of loaded DLLs to Hl2.exe and print them on a txt on the client, and then upload that to a server, that way you could have a handful of cheat's DLLs and block em by default if they are detected on the client. Anything if possible, of course. Take care. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:29 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Screenshots are saved to tf/resource and also the player will have the shots taken from his/her screen on the same location on his/her pc. -ics 10.9.2012 21:09, Thomas K kirjoitti: In what folder the screenshots are uploaded to the server? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Ejziponken - Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin lol need this for CS 1.6 and CSGO.. :P Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:19:42 -0400 From: epichat...@litewin.net To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Would be nice if valve added a legitimate way for server admins to grab screenshots if they are going to patch this exploit. Considering the screenshots only take an in-game image the only people to have reasons against it are hackers themselves. --EHG On 9/10/2012 1:04 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote: There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken screenshots of your game. Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients execute commands. On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots. I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get a proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: http://tftrue.redline-**utilit**ies.net/anakinac.htmlhttp://utilities.net/anakinac.html http://**tftrue.redline-utilities.net/**anakinac.htmlhttp://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hrys http://pastebin.**com/raw.php?i=Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go through them? It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating? It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take 10 snapshots
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
It's a server plugin, not a client plugin. It's using ClientCommand + an exploit to execute jpeg, then INetChannel::RequestFile to upload it. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Bruno Garcia garcia.bru...@gmail.com wrote: This is obviously not using the screenshot command, rather the screenshot client function call. As well as the INetChannel SendFile function to upload the file. I wouldn't expect VALVe to update this function, this also used to upload spray tags to the server, and it has a very secure extension block that won't let you upload almost anything (Except for screenshots in this case) @Anakin: If I were you, I would find a way to get the stack of loaded DLLs to Hl2.exe and print them on a txt on the client, and then upload that to a server, that way you could have a handful of cheat's DLLs and block em by default if they are detected on the client. Anything if possible, of course. Take care. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:29 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Screenshots are saved to tf/resource and also the player will have the shots taken from his/her screen on the same location on his/her pc. -ics 10.9.2012 21:09, Thomas K kirjoitti: In what folder the screenshots are uploaded to the server? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Ejziponken - Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin lol need this for CS 1.6 and CSGO.. :P Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:19:42 -0400 From: epichat...@litewin.net To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Would be nice if valve added a legitimate way for server admins to grab screenshots if they are going to patch this exploit. Considering the screenshots only take an in-game image the only people to have reasons against it are hackers themselves. --EHG On 9/10/2012 1:04 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote: There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken screenshots of your game. Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients execute commands. On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots. I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get a proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: http://tftrue.redline-**utilit**ies.net/anakinac.htmlhttp://utilities.net/anakinac.html http://**tftrue.redline-utilities.net/**anakinac.htmlhttp://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hrys http://pastebin.**com/raw.php?i=Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: So how does this work? It takes
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Then why won't alias jpeg prevent it from taking screenshots huh? 2012/9/10 Asher Baker asher...@gmail.com: It's a server plugin, not a client plugin. It's using ClientCommand + an exploit to execute jpeg, then INetChannel::RequestFile to upload it. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Bruno Garcia garcia.bru...@gmail.com wrote: This is obviously not using the screenshot command, rather the screenshot client function call. As well as the INetChannel SendFile function to upload the file. I wouldn't expect VALVe to update this function, this also used to upload spray tags to the server, and it has a very secure extension block that won't let you upload almost anything (Except for screenshots in this case) @Anakin: If I were you, I would find a way to get the stack of loaded DLLs to Hl2.exe and print them on a txt on the client, and then upload that to a server, that way you could have a handful of cheat's DLLs and block em by default if they are detected on the client. Anything if possible, of course. Take care. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:29 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Screenshots are saved to tf/resource and also the player will have the shots taken from his/her screen on the same location on his/her pc. -ics 10.9.2012 21:09, Thomas K kirjoitti: In what folder the screenshots are uploaded to the server? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Ejziponken - Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin lol need this for CS 1.6 and CSGO.. :P Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:19:42 -0400 From: epichat...@litewin.net To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Would be nice if valve added a legitimate way for server admins to grab screenshots if they are going to patch this exploit. Considering the screenshots only take an in-game image the only people to have reasons against it are hackers themselves. --EHG On 9/10/2012 1:04 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote: There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken screenshots of your game. Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients execute commands. On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots. I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get a proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: http://tftrue.redline-**utilit**ies.net/anakinac.htmlhttp://utilities.net/anakinac.html http://**tftrue.redline-utilities.net/**anakinac.htmlhttp://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is cheating? On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said every 10 or so minutes) He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the following config will prevent it from taking screenshots: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hrys http://pastebin.**com/raw.php?i=Xr39hryshttp://pastebin.com
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
The 'jpeg' command is an assumption. There are a few commands that take screenshots that could be used. Which command being used is irrelevant though, as the method *is* executing a command on the client. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Drogen Viech drogenvi...@googlemail.comwrote: Then why won't alias jpeg prevent it from taking screenshots huh? 2012/9/10 Asher Baker asher...@gmail.com: It's a server plugin, not a client plugin. It's using ClientCommand + an exploit to execute jpeg, then INetChannel::RequestFile to upload it. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Bruno Garcia garcia.bru...@gmail.com wrote: This is obviously not using the screenshot command, rather the screenshot client function call. As well as the INetChannel SendFile function to upload the file. I wouldn't expect VALVe to update this function, this also used to upload spray tags to the server, and it has a very secure extension block that won't let you upload almost anything (Except for screenshots in this case) @Anakin: If I were you, I would find a way to get the stack of loaded DLLs to Hl2.exe and print them on a txt on the client, and then upload that to a server, that way you could have a handful of cheat's DLLs and block em by default if they are detected on the client. Anything if possible, of course. Take care. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 3:29 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Screenshots are saved to tf/resource and also the player will have the shots taken from his/her screen on the same location on his/her pc. -ics 10.9.2012 21:09, Thomas K kirjoitti: In what folder the screenshots are uploaded to the server? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Ejziponken - Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:35 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**com hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin lol need this for CS 1.6 and CSGO.. :P Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:19:42 -0400 From: epichat...@litewin.net To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**com hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Would be nice if valve added a legitimate way for server admins to grab screenshots if they are going to patch this exploit. Considering the screenshots only take an in-game image the only people to have reasons against it are hackers themselves. --EHG On 9/10/2012 1:04 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote: There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread. The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which is the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's INetChannel (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file from the client. It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken screenshots of your game. Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients execute commands. On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots. I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get a proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC. On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: http://tftrue.redline-**utilit**ies.net/anakinac.html http://utilities.net/anakinac.html http://**tftrue.redline-utilities.net/**anakinac.html http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html -ics 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and then uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything else that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other hacks. On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote: You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one once in an hour. PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch wallhackers and such. -ics 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti: Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject. On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote: I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other heuristic detections are printed to your console 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com: No, I mean how would you use this to detect
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having something like Greenlight to go through those... I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, at least consider releasing a stable version with that doesn't open connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really like to use this, we should have had this long ago. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
What kind of issues? There might be 1-2 small bugs that will be fixed in the next update AFAIK, but the main detections work fine. Le 12 avril 2012 04:22, daniel jokiaho daniel.joki...@gmail.com a écrit : Any issues with dblocker? On 11 Apr 2012 19:49, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I don't think it will, I have not tested though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:46, Andrew DeMerse ademe...@gmail.com a écrit : I'll check it out, and let you know if I see anything weird. I assume this shouldn't conflict with SMAC? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I just posted that on a competitive forum so far. Le 11 avril 2012 19:36, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Can you make compatible with sourcebans from sourcemod?! Am 12.04.2012 um 10:13 schrieb AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com: What kind of issues? There might be 1-2 small bugs that will be fixed in the next update AFAIK, but the main detections work fine. Le 12 avril 2012 04:22, daniel jokiaho daniel.joki...@gmail.com a écrit : Any issues with dblocker? On 11 Apr 2012 19:49, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I don't think it will, I have not tested though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:46, Andrew DeMerse ademe...@gmail.com a écrit : I'll check it out, and let you know if I see anything weird. I assume this shouldn't conflict with SMAC? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I just posted that on a competitive forum so far. Le 11 avril 2012 19:36, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Only the prediction hack detections and anti speedhack exploit could be banned for. What do you mean with sourcebans compatibility? Is it just sending a sm_ban command into the server console? Le 12 avril 2012 10:31, Thomas K tkr...@arcor.de a écrit : Can you make compatible with sourcebans from sourcemod?! Am 12.04.2012 um 10:13 schrieb AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com: What kind of issues? There might be 1-2 small bugs that will be fixed in the next update AFAIK, but the main detections work fine. Le 12 avril 2012 04:22, daniel jokiaho daniel.joki...@gmail.com a écrit : Any issues with dblocker? On 11 Apr 2012 19:49, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I don't think it will, I have not tested though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:46, Andrew DeMerse ademe...@gmail.com a écrit : I'll check it out, and let you know if I see anything weird. I assume this shouldn't conflict with SMAC? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I just posted that on a competitive forum so far. Le 11 avril 2012 19:36, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
It should be just that as sourcebans is plugin under sourcemod. -ics - Alkuperäinen viesti - Only the prediction hack detections and anti speedhack exploit could be banned for. What do you mean with sourcebans compatibility? Is it just sending a sm_ban command into the server console? Le 12 avril 2012 10:31, Thomas K tkr...@arcor.de a écrit : Can you make compatible with sourcebans from sourcemod?! Am 12.04.2012 um 10:13 schrieb AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com: What kind of issues? There might be 1-2 small bugs that will be fixed in the next update AFAIK, but the main detections work fine. Le 12 avril 2012 04:22, daniel jokiaho daniel.joki...@gmail.com a écrit : Any issues with dblocker? On 11 Apr 2012 19:49, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I don't think it will, I have not tested though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:46, Andrew DeMerse ademe...@gmail.com a écrit : I'll check it out, and let you know if I see anything weird. I assume this shouldn't conflict with SMAC? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I just posted that on a competitive forum so far. Le 11 avril 2012 19:36, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
But does the plugin ban or log? On 12 Apr 2012 11:57, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: It should be just that as sourcebans is plugin under sourcemod. -ics - Alkuperäinen viesti - Only the prediction hack detections and anti speedhack exploit could be banned for. What do you mean with sourcebans compatibility? Is it just sending a sm_ban command into the server console? Le 12 avril 2012 10:31, Thomas K tkr...@arcor.de a écrit : Can you make compatible with sourcebans from sourcemod?! Am 12.04.2012 um 10:13 schrieb AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com: What kind of issues? There might be 1-2 small bugs that will be fixed in the next update AFAIK, but the main detections work fine. Le 12 avril 2012 04:22, daniel jokiaho daniel.joki...@gmail.com a écrit : Any issues with dblocker? On 11 Apr 2012 19:49, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I don't think it will, I have not tested though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:46, Andrew DeMerse ademe...@gmail.com a écrit : I'll check it out, and let you know if I see anything weird. I assume this shouldn't conflict with SMAC? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I just posted that on a competitive forum so far. Le 11 avril 2012 19:36, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been
[hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didnt understand, the detection is kind of heuristic (I wont explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so its not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. Its just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. Its important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didnt understand, the detection is kind of heuristic (I wont explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so its not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. Its just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. Its important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didnt understand, the detection is kind of heuristic (I wont explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so its not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. Its just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. Its important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
No, I just posted that on a competitive forum so far. Le 11 avril 2012 19:36, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
I'll check it out, and let you know if I see anything weird. I assume this shouldn't conflict with SMAC? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I just posted that on a competitive forum so far. Le 11 avril 2012 19:36, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
No, I don't think it will, I have not tested though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:46, Andrew DeMerse ademe...@gmail.com a écrit : I'll check it out, and let you know if I see anything weird. I assume this shouldn't conflict with SMAC? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I just posted that on a competitive forum so far. Le 11 avril 2012 19:36, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin
Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin
Any issues with dblocker? On 11 Apr 2012 19:49, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I don't think it will, I have not tested though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:46, Andrew DeMerse ademe...@gmail.com a écrit : I'll check it out, and let you know if I see anything weird. I assume this shouldn't conflict with SMAC? On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: No, I just posted that on a competitive forum so far. Le 11 avril 2012 19:36, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Ah, I see! Seems like a good plugin though :) Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:34 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin It doesn't send a mail, it's sent through HTTP. Le 11 avril 2012 19:31, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : It would be nice if one could decide if it should be sent to somebody else or at all ;) By the way, how does it send mail? Connecting through port 25 seems a bit lazy as ISPs block that nowadays... Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:30 Till: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Yes, it was originally made for league purposes. I could add a cvar to disable that though. Le 11 avril 2012 19:28, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com a écrit : Wait what? Is the log file sent to you automatically? Best regards Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För AnAkIn . Skickat: den 11 april 2012 19:23 Till: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Ämne: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread) detection plugin Hi, As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working back in January on a plugin that can detect: - POTENTIAL triggerbotters - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit Triggerbots: To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not because someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just check the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you will find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. Prediction hacks: I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's also used for various no spread/low spread hacks. The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log in tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all players have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, especially if someone is getting detected a lot. Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo