Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS
When Bill says... You are correct. I was assuming that nobody had (and the original poster had NOT) done anything really inappropriate. For any CISIZE past 16KB you get into diminishing returns on a 3390, capacity-wise. There is almost never any good reason to specify a CISIZE for a LINEAR data set other than 4 KB, especially not when used how they were originally intended to be used: with DIV. Assuming a random access pattern, they work much better, quite a bit more efficiently, meaning less I/O and substantially less CPU, with a 4 KB CISIZE (at least according to my own artificial benchmarks - YMMV). Y'really ought to take him at his word. These artifical benchmarks he has created to test a certain LDS/DIV based component have, over the last few years, beaten the living daylights out of DIV processing to the extent that he can tell you exactly where DIV is spending its time. He even has heuristic algorithms to optimize DIV save processing. It's unlikely anyone outside of system test in Pokey has anything close the insight Bill has into how that puppy works. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SVCDUMP capture phase statistics.....
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/17/2008 01:05:29 AM: thanks for fixing the time stamp! The thanks for that one should go to Ralph Sharpe. I looked at RMF M3, at the storage statistics, in particular the working set size: 18:36:30 234 18:37:00 19097 (60%delay, of this 27%common, 33% locl, 33% other) 18:37:30 70784 (57%delay, of this 57% locl, 53% other) 18:38:00 no delay (capture phase is done), WSS is 72xxx In addition to the page-in delays, they may be delays waiting for page-out I/O to make frames available. PGIN Rate at 18:37:00 33 for GRS 18:37:30 50 for GRS, 433 for NDM and 63 for VTAM 18:38:00 52 for VTAM, 18 for GRS From the top of my head, I have no real clue how we can drop the time the global capture phase takes, well, other than turning off GRSQ completely (or setting this slip trap: sl set,c=0c4,j=NDM, a=nodump,e; which probably wouldn't do much good as this is a dump scheduled by VTAM:-) ) That lpar has 8704M real with the local page ds's normally at 10%. Should IMS ever decide to take a dump, chances are good that it will be useless as we have to run q=no with these capture times in order not to hit the TCPIP timeouts. There isn't much you can do other than spend real money to buy more real storage to avoid paging, and spend real money to buy to fastest DASD boxes and attach them to the fastest channels (if you aren't already doing that). There are some things z/OS development could do, the most important of which for your needs would be to move GRSQ processing to occur after system nondispatchabilty has been reset, which might allow you to use q=yes without TCPIP timeouts. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: And when was the last time you used non-3390 geometry? The device independence was important back in the early days of VSAM, circa 1975 when you had 3330s, 3350, 3340s on the floor, which were then followed by 3380s and 3390s. Assuming that 3390 geometry is here to stay at least from a logical Zos perspective, I don't see any downside to using Tracks or Cyls. But then I'm sure someone will disagree. Last but not least: Not every (unit+amount) combination results in cylinder allocation. But when you use cylinders you are *sure* that allocation will result in cylinders. When using tracks or kilobytes or records, there is no such warranty (it depends on the amount). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS
William H. Blair wrote: Arthur T. wrote You don't mention the CI size. He does not need to. Gilbert Cardenas wrote: LINEAR - which means that it will have a CISIZE of 4 KB (4096). There are exactly 180 4K blocks (CIs) in each 3390 CYL. All LINEAR cluster space allocation calculations can be made knowing just that. Not true. However in was true in The Very Old Days. Nowadays CISZ=4k is default for LDS, but not the only choice. It can be any multiplication of 4k: 4,8,12,16,20,24,28,32 kB. So, the assumption above is not safe. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
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Re: SVCDUMP capture phase statistics.....
The thanks for that one should go to Ralph Sharpe. Thanks Ralph! :-) There isn't much you can do other than spend real money to buy more real storage to avoid paging, and spend real money to buy to fastest DASD boxes and attach them to the fastest channels (if you aren't already doing that). I was afraid of that. As it happens, we're just buying more real, but that was intended for our ever-growing VMs, or rather the linuxes under VM. My colleague will attempt to get some more for that system. Unfortunately, NDM dumping with maddening regularity is a fact of life, and we cannot create the same load on the test systems that we have in production, so we cannot get them fixed before going to production. And then we'll wait for z/OS development to do something for us :-) Best regards, Barbara -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
To respond to your various questions/points:
Walt, I am searching backwards, that is, I begin at the end of the command
buffer minus the length of my search argument and work backwards. I know
this works through using various WTOs and forcing the thing to abend to take
a look at the content of the registers etc and the fact that the WTO of the
command buffer that Hans asked for contains:
STC02976 0080 ARCHFILTER(*) LIST CLASS(USER ) ALL
So it must be working it's way back through the command string to find my
search argument.
The (in)famous CLC 0(R9,R8),FILTER 'filter('found?
was actually based on one of the IRREVX01 samples included in
SYS1.SAMPLIB(RACEXITS):
LAR7,L'USERKEY
CLC 0(R7,R5),USERKEY
with USERKEY defined as:
USERKEY DCC'USER('a PASSWORD keyword
I guess they must be doing something in a different way to me. Maybe I'll
sit down and try and work through it when I get a moment.
Either way I think the moral of this particular part of the tale is
'understand the code first, don't just copy it'
In he end I used CLC FILTER,0(R8)'filter('found?
as suggested by William and it works just fine.
Thanks for all your help. I do this sort of thing far too infrequently and
so suffer for it!!
It makes it a lot easier knowing that there's people like you guys around
who are willing to help out.
Best regards
Paul
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IBM 1Q2008 Earnings Highlights
System z figured prominently in IBM's 1Q2008 earnings presentation. You can find that presentation here: http://www.ibm.com/investor/1q08/index.phtml Specifically, System z hardware revenues in Q1 increased 10% globally year-over-year and was the star hardware performer. The United States mainframe market was particularly strong. MIPS growth was well above the revenue growth, so customers are growing System z workloads aggressively. And IBM gained marketshare. The new System z10, available for 34 days during the quarter, was credited for this excellent performance. CFO Mark Loughridge highlighted some key customer wins during the earnings conference call, including an Egyptian telecommunications company implementing a System z-based data center with reduced energy consumption for its growing business. Loughridge said IBM expects System z growth to continue into the second quarter and second half. In many parts of the call Loughridge highlighted what seem to be long-term, secular trends concerning green data centers which take less space, require less energy, and have the most cost-efficient operations profile. Server demand is skewing heavily toward the most highly virtualized servers, of which the System z is the ultimate design. The low-end System x business was weak for the quarter, but BladeCenters, POWER6-based servers, System z, and high-end storage (particularly the DS8000 family) all performed. IBM's services businesses experienced strong demand for green data center design, installation, and operations. Customers are focusing on where they can reduce their costs soonest, and these areas are significant drivers. IBM does not break out System z software separately in its earnings report. Overall, Software Group reported 14% revenue growth. Information Management was the strongest brand, with a major contribution from Cognos during its first quarter as part of IBM. But all brands grew, with WebSphere growing at a whopping 20%. Loughridge said that IBM thinks Lotus gained marketshare. Lotus, unlike its competitors, takes full advantage of the most highly virtualized environments customers are implementing in their modern, green data centers. Weak spots were few in the quarter. In addition to low-end System x, the OEM Microelectronics business had a tough quarter. (This is IBM's business supplying integrated circuits to other companies.) Loughridge emphasized that this revenue line item does not include ICs supplied to IBM's own hardware businesses. Japan (total business) was up 11% in dollar terms but down 3% in yen terms, so IBM has more work to do in Japan. As a reminder, the views I express are solely my own. I do not speak for IBM. You should visit the Web site above if you want the official IBM view. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:00:29 +0800 Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Is there any way that can keep track the usage of IND$FILE, if the user :rename the IND$FILE to ther own location and call it with TN3270, how can we :check this case. WHy do you want to do this? What is your business case? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:32:05 -0500 Paul Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:To respond to your various questions/points:
:Walt, I am searching backwards, that is, I begin at the end of the command
:buffer minus the length of my search argument and work backwards. I know
:this works through using various WTOs and forcing the thing to abend to take
:a look at the content of the registers etc and the fact that the WTO of the
:command buffer that Hans asked for contains:
:STC02976 0080 ARCHFILTER(*) LIST CLASS(USER ) ALL
:So it must be working it's way back through the command string to find my
:search argument.
:The (in)famous CLC 0(R9,R8),FILTER'filter('found?
:was actually based on one of the IRREVX01 samples included in
:SYS1.SAMPLIB(RACEXITS):
:LAR7,L'USERKEY
:CLC 0(R7,R5),USERKEY
:with USERKEY defined as:
:USERKEY DCC'USER('a PASSWORD keyword
:I guess they must be doing something in a different way to me. Maybe I'll
:sit down and try and work through it when I get a moment.
No, you are doing something wrong in the exact same way the IBM example is
doing something wrong.
Their code has the same bug.
:Either way I think the moral of this particular part of the tale is
:'understand the code first, don't just copy it'
:In he end I used CLC FILTER,0(R8)'filter('found?
:as suggested by William and it works just fine.
:Thanks for all your help. I do this sort of thing far too infrequently and
:so suffer for it!!
:It makes it a lot easier knowing that there's people like you guys around
:who are willing to help out.
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Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel
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I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
especially those from irresponsible companies.
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Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
Ok, for what it's worth it makes me feel a little better. Like I said before, better to understand first instead of just copying. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
producing multiple JES2 sysout reports to different classes
We have a program which writes a report to a DD name which produces a single sysout dataset. We need to produce 2 copies of this report going to 2 different sysout classes. Can this be achieved without rewriting the program. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: producing multiple JES2 sysout reports to different classes
Sure. Code 2 OUTPUT statements, each specifying CLASS, DEST, and what else you need, then refer to the two statements from the SYSOUT DD. Note that you need to specify SYSOUT=(,) so that the CLASS from the OUTPUT statements will be used. //STEP EXEC //C1 OUTPUT CLASS=A,DEST=destA, //C2 OUTPUT CLASS=B,DEST=destB, ... //OUTDD SYSOUT=(,),OUTPUT=(*.C1,*.C2) ... -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Spammed
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Re: Spammed
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Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:32:05 -0500, Paul Whelan wrote:
The (in)famous CLC 0(R9,R8),FILTER 'filter('found?
was actually based on one of the IRREVX01 samples included in
SYS1.SAMPLIB(RACEXITS):
LAR7,L'USERKEY
CLC 0(R7,R5),USERKEY
with USERKEY defined as:
USERKEY DCC'USER('a PASSWORD keyword
I guess they must be doing something in a different way to me. Maybe I'll
sit down and try and work through it when I get a moment.
As Binyamin said, the samplib code is incorrect. I hope you will contact the
support center and report it. Then maybe it will get fixed and someone else
won't have the same problem that you had.
rant
Obvoiusly the sample was never tested.
/rant
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Re: SVCDUMP capture phase statistics.....
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:05:29 +0200, Barbara Nitz wrote: That lpar has 8704M real with the local page ds's normally at 10%. You didn't mention how many local page data sets you have. Perhaps more locals, spread across more devices and channels would help. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Whelan
[ snip ]
The (in)famous CLC 0(R9,R8),FILTER'filter('found?
was actually based on one of the IRREVX01 samples included in
SYS1.SAMPLIB(RACEXITS):
LAR7,L'USERKEY
CLC 0(R7,R5),USERKEY
with USERKEY defined as:
USERKEY DCC'USER('a PASSWORD keyword
Fascinating. I didn't know CLC was (also) an RX instruction.
I wonder how often the above code excerpt actually finds 'USER('? :-)
-jc-
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Re: Spammed (snub the blog!)
Sorry Steve - I figured every had copped it (or will). Someone touting a mainframe blog - using a gmail account mailed directly, not via BAMA according to the headers. Like I said, just venting ... ;-) Shane ... I also received the canned pre-processed ham-like product. Pretty clear it came from culling IBM-Main. Our best response would be to snub said blog. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spammed
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Spammed On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 05:51 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: What are you referring to? Your subject and your body give no context for your comments. Sorry Steve - I figured every had copped it (or will). Someone touting a mainframe blog - using a gmail account mailed directly, not via BAMA according to the headers. Like I said, just venting ... ;-) Shane ... I got it also. I am getting really good at ignoring these people. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Spammed
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Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Whelan
[ snip ]
The (in)famous CLC 0(R9,R8),FILTER 'filter('found?
was actually based on one of the IRREVX01 samples included in
SYS1.SAMPLIB(RACEXITS):
LAR7,L'USERKEY
CLC 0(R7,R5),USERKEY
with USERKEY defined as:
USERKEY DCC'USER('a PASSWORD keyword
Fascinating. I didn't know CLC was (also) an RX instruction.
I wonder how often the above code excerpt actually finds 'USER('? :-)
-jc-
That dog don't hunt! And the example is in IBM code just that way. As if
the CLC used the value in the register as the length. Of course, since
R7 is a self-defining term, the code assembles just fine. But it won't
work as intended!
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Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
John:
I agree, but if r7 equates to 7 so as long as the first 7 bytes of the user key
are equal it will work.
Bill
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:05:26 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:
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-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On
Behalf Of Paul Whelan [ snip ] The (in)famous CLC
0(R9,R8),FILTER 'filter('found? was actually based on one of the
IRREVX01 samples included in SYS1.SAMPLIB(RACEXITS): LA
R7,L'USERKEYCLC 0(R7,R5),USERKEY with USERKEY defined as:
USERKEY DC C'USER(' a PASSWORD keyword Fascinating. I
didn't know CLC was (also) an RX instruction.I wonder how often the
above code excerpt actually finds 'USER('? :-)-jc- That dog don't
hunt! And the example is in IBM code just that way. As if the CLC used the
value in the register as the length. Of course, since R7 is a self-defining
term, the code assembles just fine. But it won't work as intended! --
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Re: Spammed (snub the blog!)
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Re: IBM - MLC question
Tim, I think you also left out ULC pricing. ULC is a lot simplier to administer than VWLC and depending on your environment, can deliver far greater savings and high LPAR utilizations. http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/swprice/other.html Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side
---snip dinosaurs and chickens can coexist and each has a role to play. We differ as to what those roles are. I don't word process in Script That's unfortunate, because I find it to be more user friendly than, e.g., m$ word. ---unsnip--- I still use (on very rare occaisions) TEXT-360. Talk about dinosaurs.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/Journal - Dark Side or Bright Side
--snip- (If it were only that easy to deprive that specific city of its largest employer! That would be worth losing a few winks pondering.) ---unsnip--- Tactrical nuke? Or just the world's largest degausser? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
-snip
The (in)famous CLC 0(R9,R8),FILTER 'filter('found?
was actually based on one of the IRREVX01 samples included in
SYS1.SAMPLIB(RACEXITS):
LAR7,L'USERKEY
CLC 0(R7,R5),USERKEY
with USERKEY defined as:
USERKEY DCC'USER('a PASSWORD keyword
Fascinating. I didn't know CLC was (also) an RX instruction.
I wonder how often the above code excerpt actually finds 'USER('? :-)
-jc-
That dog don't hunt! And the example is in IBM code just that way. As if
the CLC used the value in the register as the length. Of course, since
R7 is a self-defining term, the code assembles just fine. But it won't
work as intended!
---unsnip-
Maybe it was written by a student in a Assembler class? :-)
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Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:05:26 -0500, McKown, John wrote: ... Of course, since R7 is a self-defining term, the code assembles just fine self-defining term? No, there is an EQU in the code. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DCF: Can it live again?
Doesn't Ghostscript have a txt2pdf program? /Tom Kern On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:12:39 -0400, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/16 David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It'd still be nice to have something on Linux that understands 1403 listings, though. lpd...? Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
I agree, but if r7 equates to 7 so as long as the first 7 bytes of the user key are equal it will work. No, it's comparing for the keyword text USER( which is only 5 bytes long. Depending on what follows that text in the program, it could work FSVO work. Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:16:42 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IRREVX01 strangeness To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU John: I agree, but if r7 equates to 7 so as long as the first 7 bytes of the user key are equal it will work. Bill _ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Torn Between Two Catalogs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I moved some users high level nodes from a mastercat to a usercat. All worked with one exception This user can sign on, but when she lists her datasets under 3.4, all that displays is the alias. No datasets appear aside from the alias. She can't list any datasets associated with any usercat. She can 3.4 datasets in the mastercat, but that's all. Other users in the usercat have no problem. Just not under 3.4 Does anyone have any advice? Thank you, Serenity Silly question probalby, but: Did she flag the following option in de 3.4 panel: / Include Additional Qualifiers Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Torn Between Two Catalogs
Did you define an ALIAS for the HLQ's you moved? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Torn Between Two Catalogs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I moved some users high level nodes from a mastercat to a usercat. All worked with one exception This user can sign on, but when she lists her datasets under 3.4, all that displays is the alias. No datasets appear aside from the alias. She can't list any datasets associated with any usercat. She can 3.4 datasets in the mastercat, but that's all. Other users in the usercat have no problem. Just not under 3.4 Does anyone have any advice? Thank you, Serenity Silly question probalby, but: Did she flag the following option in de 3.4 panel: / Include Additional Qualifiers Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Hillgang mtg April 24 open to all
The next meeting of Hillgang (the Washington DC area VM users group) will be held on April 24 at CA in Herndon VA. The meeting will feature Mike Cowlishaw, IBM Fellow and creator of REXX, as well as technical updates on some new research, and the usual QA free-for-all with VM and Linux experts. Note: Some misinformation has been circulating re: needing an IBM nomination to attend. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. The meeting is open to ALL - we just need RSVPs for a headcount and getting the attendees on the access list for the CA office. RSVPs can be sent to hillgang (at) vm.marist.edu. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
because our audit want to check the unauthorized user (outsource programmer) download the source program from our shop. On 4/17/08, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:00:29 +0800 Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Is there any way that can keep track the usage of IND$FILE, if the user :rename the IND$FILE to ther own location and call it with TN3270, how can we :check this case. WHy do you want to do this? What is your business case? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
[Fwd: Re: Mainframe Tech blog]
Original Message Subject:Re: Mainframe Tech blog Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:04:33 -0700 From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Phoenix Software International, Inc. To: Vivin bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob, Thank you for inviting me to your Legacy Mainframe site and blog. You must be aware that the word legacy is being routinely used today as a pejorative to describe modern computer systems, with decades-old roots, by those who peddle alternative platforms. If you have a sincere interest in topics affecting mainframe platforms, and would like to attract mainframe professionals like myself to your site, I suggest you eliminate the term legacy from its vocabulary. Regards, Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ Vivin bob wrote: Hi, Have you ever thought of making yourself in line with Technical News, Technical upgradation, Expert advices on issues, Polls, Blogs, Discussions, Articles, White papers, A...Z about Mainframe systems and its applications to make you best in the industry? As i strongly believe socialized blog could yield more Knowledge/productivity instead personalized/Individual blogs.I will start sharing the topics with you all and would be great if you could post AZ on the Topics. Lets to gather make this running into the pitch Here is a weblog http://legacymainframe.wordpress.com; where you can keep posted of all the Technical News, Technical upgradation, Expert advices on issues, Polls, Blogs, Discussions, Articles, White papers, A...Z about Mainframe systems and its applications. If you want to know about some unique concepts/jargons in database systems and its applications, please post it to this blog. Our Technical experts will post with relevant articles, documents, white papers, polls, analysis and trends about your topic. Seems exciting You can have free email newsletter of this blog updates. *http://www.feedblitz.com/f/?Sub=375194* Hope you will enjoy reading this. Thanks Legacymainframe.wordpress -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SMP/E version and OS release?
Hi all, I have a software that states it requires SMP/E V3R1 if the installation media is CDROM,my question is what's the assoicated OS level? Is it OS/390 V2R10? Is fllowing guess true? SMPLIST OUTPUTSMP/E version OS level 27.xx-? OS/390 V2R7 28.xx-? OS/390 V2R8 29.xx-? OS/390 V2R9 31.xx-? OS/390 2R10? 32.xx-? z/OS V1R1? SMPLIST OUTPUT means the output of SMP/E like : 1PAGE 0002 - NOW SET TO GLOBAL ZONE DATE 07/31/07 TIME 12:35:26 SMP/E 34.18 SMPLIST OUTPUT Thanks Victor - 雅虎邮箱，您的终生邮箱！ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:07:11 +0800 Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :because our audit want to check the unauthorized user (outsource :programmer) download the source program from our shop. How will this prevent screen scraping? There are other ways to download upload. :On 4/17/08, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:00:29 +0800 Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : :Is there any way that can keep track the usage of IND$FILE, if the user : :rename the IND$FILE to ther own location and call it with TN3270, how : can we : :check this case. : WHy do you want to do this? What is your business case? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE because our audit want to check the unauthorized user (outsource programmer) download the source program from our shop. I had a similar requirement, but just for internal use. What I did was write a small program which front ended IND$FILE. I composite link'ed it into the load module, so it would still work if somebody copied it to another library. Of course a smart enough person could simply delink my front end. My code is 156 lines of assembler. Also, the front end made the TSO session non-swappable for the duration of the transfer. This was due to some timing problems due to lack of CPU resources. This required that the program be APF authorized and listed in IKJTSOnn as an authorized program. Well, if you forgot to do that last step, the program was smart enough to detect it and bypass the portion that required APF authorization. But all that I did to 'audit' the use was to put out a WTO with ROUTCDE=11 so that it would go on the SYSLOG. I did not write an SMF record (which also requires APF authorization, in general). If you would like the code, please email me off-line at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Same for anybody else. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
Tommy, Why don't you put AUDIT on the source file and see who touches it for READ? IIRC, IND$FILE might be possible to track if you had a product like MXG or SOFTAUDT or MICS and the access was to the mainframe. Is there a specific way they are invoking IND$FILE? From a PC or from the mainframe? Lizette because our audit want to check the unauthorized user (outsource programmer) download the source program from our shop. :Is there any way that can keep track the usage of IND$FILE, if the user :rename the IND$FILE to ther own location and call it with TN3270, how can we :check this case. WHy do you want to do this? What is your business case? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBMLINK
Is IBMLINK down again? We are having trouble getting on. Thanks. John Eatherly -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Torn Between Two Catalogs
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] roups.com ... I moved some users high level nodes from a mastercat to a usercat. All worked with one exception This user can sign on, but when she lists her datasets under 3.4, all that displays is the alias. No datasets appear aside from the alias. She can't list any datasets associated with any usercat. She can 3.4 datasets in the mastercat, but that's all. Other users in the usercat have no problem. Just not under 3.4 Does anyone have any advice? Thank you, Serenity Silly question probalby, but: Did she flag the following option in de 3.4 panel: /Include Additional Qualifiers Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E version and OS release?
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:12:09 +0800, victor zhang wrote: Hi all, I have a software that states it requires SMP/E V3R1 if the installation media is CDROM,my question is what's the assoicated OS level? Is it OS/390 V2R10? Is it possible the vendor intended SMP/E V3R1 _or_greater_? Is fllowing guess true? SMPLIST OUTPUTSMP/E version OS level 27.xx-? OS/390 V2R7 28.xx-? OS/390 V2R8 29.xx-? OS/390 V2R9 31.xx-? OS/390 2R10? 32.xx-? z/OS V1R1? In each case, the first two digits are the version and release. SMPLIST OUTPUT means the output of SMP/E like : 1PAGE 0002 - NOW SET TO GLOBAL ZONE DATE 07/31/07 TIME 12:35:26 SMP/E 34.18 SMPLIST OUTPUT That should be V3R4+ IIRC, V3R4 is a no-charge download for all currently supported releases of z/OS. SMP/E has decoupled its release numbers from z/OS. I admire this; I've wished it could be done for more products, such as Unix System Services Shell and Utilities. Releases could be issued on a schedule based on enhancements to the product, not driven by the schedule of the base OS. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DS8000 FICON EXPRESS4
Skip wrote: I have heard that the FICON Express4 4-port adapters which operate at 4Gbps speeds become slower/degraded with each channel added to the card. That if I fill the 4 ports I may be as slow as 1/4 the rated speed. Has anyone else heard or read about this? Is it true? I asked our local expert about this. Her response: For FICON Express4, the speed of the Self-Timed Interconnect (STI) bus (the path for communication between System z memory and I/O) was increased from 1GB/sec to 2GB/sec to support the higher bandwidth that each of the four channels are designed to generate when running at 4 Gigabit/s link speeds. Measurements were done with all four FICON Express4 channels active on the same card to determine the maximum MB/sec capability of the FICON Express4 feature. Measurement results were compared to the FICON Express2 feature which had a 1GB/sec STI bus and the previous generation FICON Express feature which had 2 channels per feature connected to a 333MB/sec STI bus. For the FICON Express4 feature, a maximum of 1230 READ MB/sec, 1150 WRITE MB/sec and 1300 READ+WRITE MB/sec was measured which represents up to 1.3 to 1.9 times more throughput than a FICON Express2 feature and up to 4.4 to 6.9 times more throughput than the previous generation FICON Express feature. Please refer to the figure on page 7 of the technical paper System z9 I/O and FICON Express4 Channel Performance which can be found at: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/connectivity/index.html Performance information is on the 4th tab. The link to the referenced technical paper can be found at the bottom of the page. Connie K. Beuselinck System z Hardware Product Planning IBM Corporation Poughkeepsie, NY U.S.A. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
As someone else already pointed out, although cumbersome, you can always cutpaste what you see on your 3270 screen. Don't grant people access to data they don't need. Don't grant people access to the system if you don't trust them. Of what value is an audit record that says the data has been read by xyz? Doesn't tell you if only the first few lines have been browsed or if the comlete data has been copied by whatever means. -- Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Encryption performance issues?
I'm trying to find docs comparing the performance on a z9 of none vs software vs hardware support for encryption of Tn3270 connections. I've seen quite a bit of performance doc about functions that get offloaded to crypto coprocessors, but that is a trivial amount of work for long lasting connections like Tn3270. The steady-state encryption and hashing of SSL / TLS connections gets given to CPACF, and (as I understand it) that is synchronous processing - while the CP is doing CPACF stuff it is not doing normal processing. That tells me that encryption could make a significant impact on a heavily loaded processor - even with the encryption handled by CPACF. I've seen doc showing how CPACF throughput is effected on a single CP based on the size of data blocks being processed, but no comparison with throughput when no encryption was being done, or when the encryption/hashing was done in software. Has anybody seen such a report? Thanks. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Torn Between Two Catalogs
Is it possible that the alias is defined to a catalog other than your target catalog? Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg (602) 977-5154 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Larry Crilley Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Torn Between Two Catalogs Did you define an ALIAS for the HLQ's you moved? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 9:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Torn Between Two Catalogs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I moved some users high level nodes from a mastercat to a usercat. All worked with one exception This user can sign on, but when she lists her datasets under 3.4, all that displays is the alias. No datasets appear aside from the alias. She can't list any datasets associated with any usercat. She can 3.4 datasets in the mastercat, but that's all. Other users in the usercat have no problem. Just not under 3.4 Does anyone have any advice? Thank you, Serenity Silly question probalby, but: Did she flag the following option in de 3.4 panel: / Include Additional Qualifiers Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Torn Between Two Catalogs
How did you move the datasets from the master to the user catalog? Did you use REPRO MERGECAT? Did you do the REPRO prior to defining the alias? Can you provide us the LISTCAT commands and corresponding output for both the alias and one of the datasets it covers? Does the same problem occur if someone else tries to display her datasets in 3.4? If she logs on successfully TSO is finding her profile dataset OK. Does it use a different HLQ? What happens if she specifies a complete DSN in 3.4 but replaces the HLQ with **? snip wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I moved some users high level nodes from a mastercat to a usercat. All worked with one exception This user can sign on, but when she lists her datasets under 3.4, all that displays is the alias. No datasets appear aside from the alias. She can't list any datasets associated with any usercat. She can 3.4 datasets in the mastercat, but that's all. Other users in the usercat have no problem. Just not under 3.4 Does anyone have any advice? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Bookmanager Software bookshelves - Internal server error?
Peter I'm getting exactly the same response trying to use Lookat! Excepting myself for reasons of modesty you are very probably in excellent company and IBM is very likely the subject of unhappy soto voce expressions today! Chris Mason -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
Is there any way that can keep track the usage of IND$FILE, if the user rename the IND$FILE to ther own location and call it with TN3270, how can we check this case. Why do you want to audit it? There are many ways to transfer files around besides that method. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Compatibility with CICS TS 3.1
Hello all, Does anyone out there still run Arthur Anderson Programmer Workbench and/or Oracle SQLforms? And if so, will they run under CICS TS 3.1? Any information would be greatly appreciated...and would appease management! Thanks for your time... Bret Hoesly Telephone Data Systems, Inc. Operations Dept. - Mainframe Administration -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE Is there any way that can keep track the usage of IND$FILE, if the user rename the IND$FILE to ther own location and call it with TN3270, how can we check this case. Why do you want to audit it? There are many ways to transfer files around besides that method. Why? Because some deaf auditor is yelling his head off, most likely. And it is sometimes easier to placate them than to try to educate them. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E version and OS release?
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:12:09 +0800, victor zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a software that states it requires SMP/E V3R1 if the installation media is CDROM,my question is what's the assoicated OS level? Is it OS/390 V2R10? Is fllowing guess true? SMPLIST OUTPUTSMP/E version OS level 27.xx-? OS/390 V2R7 28.xx-? OS/390 V2R8 29.xx-? OS/390 V2R9 31.xx-? OS/390 2R10? 32.xx-? z/OS V1R1? SMPLIST OUTPUT means the output of SMP/E like : 1PAGE 0002 - NOW SET TO GLOBAL ZONE DATE 07/31/07 TIME 12:35:26 SMP/E 34.18 SMPLIST OUTPUT Thanks Victor I think that is FMID HMP1D00, which first came with z/OS V1R2. It was also the level included with z/OS V1R3 and z/OS V1R4. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Parmlib Paranoia (was Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers)
Mark Zelden wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:12:56 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh! I've never understood what some sysprog's think is so secret about the contents of parmlib. IMHO, UACC(NONE) for parmlib is more draconian paranoia than anything else. But, that's a discussion for another thread... I'm sure we've done this before. Auditors are paranoid (need to know basis). Some passwords (JES2 NJE for example) may be kept in parmlib. PARMLIB is similar to LNKLST in concept. It is a concatenation of libraries, specified via PARMLIB statements in the LOADxx member of IPLPARM, and accessed via the IEFPRMLB service. LNKLST has three libraries that are always present on the concatenation. The only always-present library for PARMLIB is SYS1.PARMLIB on the IPL volume. If this library is not explicitly specified via PARMLIB statements, it is added by the system at the end of the concatenation. JES does not use PARMLIB. It reads its configuration parameters via a hard-wired DD statement in its JCL procedure. The specification looks like: For JES2: //HASPPARM DD DISP=SHR,DSN=any.data.set.name(memname) For JES3: //JES3IN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=any.data.set.name(memname) A *sequential* (DSORG=PS) data set might even work here. (Don't know. Never tried it.) Some system programmers like to elevate JES to the level of a BCP component by putting its configuration parameters into a library on the PARMLIB concatenation. That's fine. But, totally unnecessary. And, if some sort of password might be specified therein, arguably inappropriate. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Why did OPEN get RC=8?
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:48:55 -0500 McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :This is a real puzzler to me. I did an OPEN on a dynamically allocated :SYSOUT. The DYNALLOC must have worked because I didn't get any error :messages from my program and I see the allocation to SYS1. The OPEN :has R15==8. There are absolutely no other error messages. Nor did I get :any sort of abend. This is a TSO command processor, running under a :batch TMP, if that matters. I am guessing this is occurring because I do :not specify an LRECL, RECFM, and BLKSIZE in my model DCB. And apparently :my attempts to implement ATTRIB processing failed. If I output to a DDN :(another option) which is SYSOUT=X,LRECL=... then the output works as I :planned. Am I on the right track about the LRECL et al.? Perhaps. Why not put in a DCB OPEN exit to specify values if they are not supplied by the label? Or you can test with the DDN pointing to DASD file without DCB attributes and see if you get the same results. -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:07:11 +0800 Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :because our audit want to check the unauthorized user (outsource :programmer) download the source program from our shop. How will this prevent screen scraping? There are other ways to download upload. Indeed there are. If your company doesn't trust* the outsourced programmer, then perhaps they shouldn't have hired him/her. *Where trust = bound by strict non-disclosure and intellectual property agreements in a contract signed in blood. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Torn Between Two Catalogs
Oops... Sorry for the blank reply... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] roups.com ... I moved some users high level nodes from a mastercat to a usercat. All worked with one exception This user can sign on, but when she lists her datasets under 3.4, all that displays is the alias. No datasets appear aside from the alias. She can't list any datasets associated with any usercat. She can 3.4 datasets in the mastercat, but that's all. Other users in the usercat have no problem. Just not under 3.4 Does anyone have any advice? Does this user have appropriate access permissions to the usercats? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Compatibility with CICS TS 3.1
Bret, We use AACo's ISPF/CICS Programmer's Workbench, but we are still on CTS 2.3. If your CICS loadlibs contain OS/VS modules they need to be upgraded. EdP Hoesly, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Hello all, Does anyone out there still run Arthur Anderson Programmer Workbench and/or Oracle SQLforms? And if so, will they run under CICS TS 3.1? Any information would be greatly appreciated...and would appease management! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System Rexx questions
Rob's is a Rexx function. Normally it works quite nicely. But what happens after TSO is shutdown? I was using the sleep function to put pauses in an exec to shutdown the system, and after TSO was stopped it didn't work so well anymore. (-: We think that is the case, anyway. It isn't that easy to test. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: 11. huhtikuuta 2008 18:08 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System Rexx questions On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:45:01 +0200, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way in system rexx to wait x number of seconds? IIRC, OMVS is not supported for system rexx, so you can't use syscall sleep (which is what I prefer to use these days since it is a supported native interface). You should be able to use a user written sleep function. The one I use (or used to use) was from Rob Scott. It may still be on his web site. ... checking... ah... it moved, but I found it: http://www.searchengineconcepts.co.uk/mximvs/rexx-functions.shtml Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK
they had a sev1 ticket # 35327088 open at 11:40 a.m. ET however, seems to be working now. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ioajava.jar
I am getting java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/help/HelpsSet I did install javahelp 2.0 The javax/help does not have a HelpSet sub directory. CLASSPATH : C:\Program Files\IBM\Java142\IOAJAVA.jar; C:\jh2.0\javahelp\bin\jhindexer.jar; C:\jh2.0\javahelp\bin\jhsearch.jar; C:\jh2.0\javahelp\lib\jsearch.jar; C:\jh2.0\javahelp\lib\jh.jar JHHOME: C:\jh2.0 I need to change a mac for use with sna and the Rexx is working but this may be a better way. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
I will be speaking to them tomorrow. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:07:11 +0800, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because our audit want to check the unauthorized user (outsource programmer) download the source program from our shop. On 4/17/08, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:00:29 +0800 Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Is there any way that can keep track the usage of IND$FILE, if the user :rename the IND$FILE to ther own location and call it with TN3270, how can we :check this case. WHy do you want to do this? What is your business case? The problem, Tommy, is that IND$FILE is but one of many ways someone could download to a PC. The user could trivially use FTP to do that, if you have an FTP server active, or scp if you have SSH active. Or he could, as you mentioned, copy and rename IND$FILE to something else. Or he could bring in a program from another system. Or he could write a REXX exec to use TCP/IP functions to talk to a program on the PC. Etc. Auditing use of IND$FILE itself is but one way, though perhaps a simple one. But the exposure exists because you gave the user READ access to the data. Having that, there's little you can do to prevent him from copying it somewhere. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Why did OPEN get RC=8?
This is a real puzzler to me. I did an OPEN on a dynamically allocated SYSOUT. The DYNALLOC must have worked because I didn't get any error messages from my program and I see the allocation to SYS1. The OPEN has R15==8. There are absolutely no other error messages. Nor did I get any sort of abend. This is a TSO command processor, running under a batch TMP, if that matters. I am guessing this is occurring because I do not specify an LRECL, RECFM, and BLKSIZE in my model DCB. And apparently my attempts to implement ATTRIB processing failed. If I output to a DDN (another option) which is SYSOUT=X,LRECL=... then the output works as I planned. Am I on the right track about the LRECL et al.? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SALC pricing for MQ
We license MQ V5 on MLC for about 2k/month. We have very little MQ activity, so we are looking at changing this to SALC (usage based) to save money. The quote from IBM for 1 MSU, the lowest band, is 10k/month! This doesn't make sense based on our experience with other usage based products. We've asked IBM if they mean 10K *annual*, but they have confirmed that it's monthly. Is there anyone out there who is licensing MQ with SALC who would be willing to share thier experience? You can contact me privately. I don't want to poke around in anyone's specfic licensing agreements with IBM -- I'm just trying to get a reality check on this one quote that doesn't make sense. Thanks, Rob Wunderlich -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Random number for UID/GID
Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the TSO REXX Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/17/2008: For some reason a solution to this is eluding me and I wonder if someone may help me. I would like to generate a random number for use in a UID/GID for an OMVS segment. Off topic for TSO-REXX, but why would you ever want to do that? They should all be unique (for real people) and would make keeping track of them more difficult. This isn't IBM-MAIN where anything goes, so I suppose we should take this discussion there or OMVS-L (but I don't follow OMVS-L), so I am cross posting to IBM-MAIN. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html *** PLEASE NOTE *** This E-Mail/telefax message and any documents accompanying this transmission may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended addressee/recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of, disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance on the contents of this E-Mail/telefax information is strictly prohibited and may result in legal action against you. Please reply to the sender advising of the error in transmission and immediately delete/destroy the message and any accompanying documents. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E version and OS release?
Victor, 34.18 is service level of SMP/E. The version is SMP/E Version 3 Release 4. 3.1 is quite old - came with z/OS 1.2 BTW: It is possible to have newer SMP/E than originally released with the given system level. In simpler words it is possible to upgrade SMP/E without system upgrade. BTW2: I believe that any software can be installed using newer SMP/E than required (with exception to very old stuff). So, why worry ? HTH -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland victor zhang wrote: Hi all, I have a software that states it requires SMP/E V3R1 if the installation media is CDROM,my question is what's the assoicated OS level? Is it OS/390 V2R10? Is fllowing guess true? SMPLIST OUTPUTSMP/E version OS level 27.xx-? OS/390 V2R7 28.xx-? OS/390 V2R8 29.xx-? OS/390 V2R9 31.xx-? OS/390 2R10? 32.xx-? z/OS V1R1? SMPLIST OUTPUT means the output of SMP/E like : 1PAGE 0002 - NOW SET TO GLOBAL ZONE DATE 07/31/07 TIME 12:35:26 SMP/E 34.18 SMPLIST OUTPUT -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl S d Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru S dowego, nr rejestru przedsi biorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wed ug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zak adowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 z ote i zosta w ca o ci wp acony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System Rexx questions
Lindy Mayfield wrote: Rob's is a Rexx function. Normally it works quite nicely. But what happens after TSO is shutdown? IKJTSOEV can be used regardless of the state of TCAS. TCAS has nothing to do with the availability of TSO/E services. I was using the sleep function to put pauses in an exec to shutdown the system, and after TSO was stopped it didn't work so well anymore. (-: We think that is the case, anyway. It isn't that easy to test. I used my TSOCMD REXX (apparently some smart people have decided to rename it to TSOX -- I should have thought of that) to issue a TSO/E command from a console via SystemRexx. I shut down TCAS and issued the same command to show there is no change in behavior whatsoever. I demonstrate this on slide 13 of the following presentation from Orlando: http://shareew.prod.web.sba.com/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_Orlando/S2817SK23.pdf -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IRREVX01 strangeness
In a message dated 4/17/2008 8:17:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree, but if r7 equates to 7 so as long as the first 7 bytes of the user key are equal it will work. Long ago and far away I had a friend teaching an IE(Industrial engineering course) and the Department committee had selected a text book mostly because it had 'programming examples' (mostly Fortran) with a subroutine library. So first assignment and he gets slammed 'cause everything blows up. Anyway, long story short after debugging about half the code. We figured it had only been tested on the exact case and not generalized to different lengths or values. It was a long semester **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Parmlib Paranoia (was Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers)
Ed, It's been a while since I have installed a base z/OS but as I recall, the default JES2 proc that IBM shipped with CBIPO (like a said, been a while) and the ADCD choose to elevate JES to the level of a BCP Component by using: //HASPPARM DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.PARMLIB(JES2PARM) I will agree that passwords in parmlib is dangerous, but many feel that if it's good enough for IBM, it should work for me! Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Parmlib Paranoia (was Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers) Mark Zelden wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:12:56 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh! I've never understood what some sysprog's think is so secret about the contents of parmlib. IMHO, UACC(NONE) for parmlib is more draconian paranoia than anything else. But, that's a discussion for another thread... I'm sure we've done this before. Auditors are paranoid (need to know basis). Some passwords (JES2 NJE for example) may be kept in parmlib. PARMLIB is similar to LNKLST in concept. It is a concatenation of libraries, specified via PARMLIB statements in the LOADxx member of IPLPARM, and accessed via the IEFPRMLB service. LNKLST has three libraries that are always present on the concatenation. The only always-present library for PARMLIB is SYS1.PARMLIB on the IPL volume. If this library is not explicitly specified via PARMLIB statements, it is added by the system at the end of the concatenation. JES does not use PARMLIB. It reads its configuration parameters via a hard-wired DD statement in its JCL procedure. The specification looks like: For JES2: //HASPPARM DD DISP=SHR,DSN=any.data.set.name(memname) For JES3: //JES3IN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=any.data.set.name(memname) A *sequential* (DSORG=PS) data set might even work here. (Don't know. Never tried it.) Some system programmers like to elevate JES to the level of a BCP component by putting its configuration parameters into a library on the PARMLIB concatenation. That's fine. But, totally unnecessary. And, if some sort of password might be specified therein, arguably inappropriate. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:07:11 +0800, Tommy Tsui wrote: because our audit want to check the unauthorized user (outsource programmer) download the source program from our shop. First, have you protected it with RACF? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
because our audit want to check the unauthorized user (outsource programmer) download the source program from our shop. What about ftp? Copy Paste? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Parmlib Paranoia (was Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers)
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:04:00 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:12:56 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh! I've never understood what some sysprog's think is so secret about the contents of parmlib. IMHO, UACC(NONE) for parmlib is more draconian paranoia than anything else. But, that's a discussion for another thread... I'm sure we've done this before. Auditors are paranoid (need to know basis). Some passwords (JES2 NJE for example) may be kept in parmlib. PARMLIB is similar to LNKLST in concept. It is a concatenation of libraries, specified via PARMLIB statements in the LOADxx member of IPLPARM, and accessed via the IEFPRMLB service. Similar, but not the same in respect to this discussion. LNKLST (and any other loadlib) can be set up with EXECUTE access only. That still allows one to use it but they can't read the contents or copy it. LNKLST has three libraries that are always present on the concatenation. The only always-present library for PARMLIB is SYS1.PARMLIB on the IPL volume. If this library is not explicitly specified via PARMLIB statements, it is added by the system at the end of the concatenation. JES does not use PARMLIB. It reads its configuration parameters via a hard-wired DD statement in its JCL procedure. The specification looks like: For JES2: //HASPPARM DD DISP=SHR,DSN=any.data.set.name(memname) For JES3: //JES3IN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=any.data.set.name(memname) Good point. But many shops keep their JES2 parms in one of the same parmlibs as the system parmlib concatenation. In the past that was much more common than today (from what I have seen). Besides, I used JES2 parms only as an example. There could be others (although I can't think of any off hand). Some system programmers like to elevate JES to the level of a BCP component by putting its configuration parameters into a library on the PARMLIB concatenation. That's fine. But, totally unnecessary. And, if some sort of password might be specified therein, arguably Only inappropriate if parmlib has universal read access. :-) (are we going in circles?) I don't think it is elevating JES it is just a convenient place that system parms are kept. It's also how IBM has distributed it's sample since and still does. Look at SYS1.SHASSAMP(HASIPROC) and the JES2 init and tuning.It can be changed as you said, but it has always been done that way at many shops. I personally split it out at shops I've been at because of size of the members (I also split the parms into multiple members at the same time). Anyway... you are preaching to the choir as far as I am concerned and probably many others on this list. I am just playing devils advocate a little.It's the auditors (including ours) that you would have to convince. Yes, I checked and our PARMLIBs have UACC(NONE). Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System Rexx questions
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:48:06 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used my TSOCMD REXX (apparently some smart people have decided to rename it to TSOX -- I should have thought of that) to issue a TSO/E command from a console via SystemRexx. I shut down TCAS and issued the same command to show there is no change in behavior whatsoever. I demonstrate this on slide 13 of the following presentation from Orlando: http://shareew.prod.web.sba.com/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_Orlando/S2817SK23.pdf I called mine EXTSO and it is simply this: /* REXX */ /* */ /* AUTHOR: Mark Zelden */ /* */ /**/ /* EXTSO: Execute a TSO command via System REXX */ /**/ Parse arg cmd Address TSO cmd I just looked at yours and tried it and I can't see why I would need to trap the output. Running some simple tests, both seemed to do the same thing. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DCF: Can it live again?
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IBM Bookmanager Software bookshelves - Internal server error?
Am I the only one getting this response today from the Bookmanager Software shelves? Trying to get to either Tivoli Information Management or Enterprise COBOL 3.3 bookshelves gives this error: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. More information about this error may be available in the server error log. -- IBM_HTTP_Server/6.0.2.13 Apache/2.0.47 (Unix) Server at publibz.boulder.ibm.com Port 80 Very annoying. Peter P.S. -- Maybe the chickens are on strike? This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
But the exposure exists because you gave the user READ access to the data. This has been discussed before on the RACF-L forum. It is better to protect the data, rather than the method of copying. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Compatibility with CICS TS 3.1
Hi! One of my client's is still using WorkBench with CICS TS 3.1 DB2/VSAM and it's working. I don't recall that they've had any problems since the product is their responsibility. Cheers! Timur -- From: Hoesly, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:23 PM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Compatibility with CICS TS 3.1 Hello all, Does anyone out there still run Arthur Anderson Programmer Workbench and/or Oracle SQLforms? And if so, will they run under CICS TS 3.1? Any information would be greatly appreciated...and would appease management! Thanks for your time... Bret Hoesly Telephone Data Systems, Inc. Operations Dept. - Mainframe Administration -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
It is better to protect the data, rather than the method of copying. That doesn't help if you want the programmer to work on a program but you don't want him to take it with him. Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:41:35 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU But the exposure exists because you gave the user READ access to the data. This has been discussed before on the RACF-L forum. It is better to protect the data, rather than the method of copying. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! _ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
That doesn't help if you want the programmer to work on a program but you
don't want him to take it with him.
If he can read it, he can copy it.
And, how protecting IND$FILE will not be enough.
There are many methods, but the crudest one cannot be protected except by
giving the programmer an old 3270 green screen (actually, take the PC away from
him (8-{}).
The crude method is to copy and paste from a TN3270 session into notepad.
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Too busy driving to stop for gas!
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Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
Is JK Rowling the auditor? Tommy Tsui wrote: because our audit want to check the unauthorized user (outsource programmer) download the source program from our shop. snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:30:43 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
That doesn't help if you want the programmer to work on a program but you
don't want him to take it with him.
If he can read it, he can copy it.
And, how protecting IND$FILE will not be enough.
There are many methods, but the crudest one cannot be protected except
by giving the programmer an old 3270 green screen (actually, take the PC
away from him (8-{}).
The crude method is to copy and paste from a TN3270 session into notepad.
...and, lest anyone think that Ted's crude method would be too crude to be
useful, it is trivial to create a VB program that steps through the source,
screen-by-screen, while taking snapshots that it copies to notepad (or
straight to a PC file). Grabbing several thousand lines of source wouldn't
take
any more time than it would to page through several thousand lines of source
on the screen. Many TN3270 packages may even provide sample code with
the distribution.
Either you trust your programmer's ethics or you shouldn't provide access to
the treasured source. There is no in between.
--
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Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
Either you trust your programmer's ethics or you shouldn't provide access to the treasured source. There is no in between. Exactly! Everytime you work with an 'outsider' (contractor, outsourcer, consultant, etc.), you have a risk evaluation to do. You either trust them, or you don't. If you don't, then keep it in-house. BUT! Even that is a risk due to disgruntled employees. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
Or modularize the design so that no one part is known by everyone. I think that's why Windows works so well. Ted MacNEIL wrote: Either you trust your programmer's ethics or you shouldn't provide access to the treasured source. There is no in between. Exactly! Everytime you work with an 'outsider' (contractor, outsourcer, consultant, etc.), you have a risk evaluation to do. You either trust them, or you don't. If you don't, then keep it in-house. BUT! Even that is a risk due to disgruntled employees. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
Or modularize the design so that no one part is known by everyone. I think that's why Windows works so well. LOL! :-) George Fogg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OAM copying a platter
One problem you will have even if one of those techniques work is with duplicate object names. You can not have duplicate names within the same Collection Name. I think you will need to write a program to copy the objects to a different Collection or store duplicate objects with a different object name in the same Collection. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Access 3270 data from anywhere with z/XML-Host Access 3270 apps from the web with z/Web-Host Access CMS minidisks from z/OS or z/VSE with CMSACCess Voice: 214-800-8900 X#0562 Fax: 214-451-6394 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. If you are not the intended recipient you are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this e-mail or any information contained in it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * We use reasonable measures to virus scan all E-mails leaving illustro but no warranty is given that this E-mail and any attachments are virus free. You should ensure you have adequate measures in place for your own virus checking. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Saraco Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OAM copying a platter Chuck I need to copy the PLATTER with out the data being deleted off of the source. I have 2 thoughts to see if you think they would work. 1. EJECT a volume issue the RECOVERY command for that volume using BACKUP2? Would the ejected volume be able to be added back into the library? 2. EJECT a PLATTER turn the PROTECT on on the case put it back in the library then use the MOVEVOL command. Would it create the COPY successfully and error with the protect on trying to delete the data leaving to PLATTERS with the same DATA? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System Rexx questions
Mark Zelden wrote: I just looked at yours and tried it and I can't see why I would need to trap the output. Running some simple tests, both seemed to do the same thing. Try it from a console. A *real* console. TSO command processors often write messages with trailing whitespace -- normally unseen by the user. If you don't strip it off, those lines will be wrapped on an 80-column console. I issued a LISTD command using your REXX and got: SYS1.PARMLIB --RECFM-LRECL-BLKSIZE-DSORG FB806160PO + --VOLUMES-- Z9RES1 Mine got: SYS1.PARMLIB --RECFM-LRECL-BLKSIZE-DSORG FB806160PO --VOLUMES-- Z9RES1 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System Rexx questions
Edward Jaffe wrote: I issued a LISTD command using your REXX and got: SYS1.PARMLIB --RECFM-LRECL-BLKSIZE-DSORG FB806160PO + --VOLUMES-- Z9RES1 Mine got: SYS1.PARMLIB --RECFM-LRECL-BLKSIZE-DSORG FB806160PO --VOLUMES-- Z9RES1 This exposed a bug in my REXX. Instead of: data = STRIP(line.i) I should have had: data = STRIP(line.i,'T') Now the output looks like: SYS1.PARMLIB --RECFM-LRECL-BLKSIZE-DSORG FB806160PO --VOLUMES-- Z9RES1 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SALC pricing for MQ
Rob Wunderlich wrote: We license MQ V5 on MLC for about 2k/month. We have very little MQ activity, so we are looking at changing this to SALC (usage based) to save money. The quote from IBM for 1 MSU, the lowest band, is 10k/month! This doesn't make sense based on our experience with other usage based products. We've asked IBM if they mean 10K *annual*, but they have confirmed that it's monthly. Is there anyone out there who is licensing MQ with SALC who would be willing to share thier experience? You can contact me privately. I don't want to poke around in anyone's specfic licensing agreements with IBM -- I'm just trying to get a reality check on this one quote that doesn't make sense. Thanks, Rob Wunderlich I am no longer in managment, so I don't sit in the meetings that deal with this any more (and that is a good thing), but we last time I was invoved we had the same situation. We are running MQ under MLC at 1 MSU and paying $2K/month. When ever IBM told us that we would save money by switching to other software licensing options we had them run the numbers and everything, but MQ, does go down. But MQ always goes up and goes up so much that we either break even or end up spending more. IBM is alway surprised by this. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Question on ARCNMIGR
Anyone out there seeing this? I'm going open an ETR shortly with IBM but see this in our syslogs. DUMPID=147 REQUESTED BY JOB (ARCNMIGR) DUMP TITLE=COMPON=SSI,COMPID=5752SC1B6,ISSUER=IEFJSARR,MODULE=I EFJSRE1,ABEND=S878,REASON=0010,SNAME=SMS I checked IBMLINK I cant seem to find anything, this is on a z/OS 1.9 system in a plex with 5 systems at RSU0801. Thanks Andy Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SALC pricing for MQ
You are both right, but you're missing point of IBM's SALC metric. There are still quite a few sites that cannot save money with IBM's Sub-Capacity pricing. You are currently paying ULC (Usage License Charge) or MULC (Measured Usage License Charges) probably along with PSLC (Parallel Sysplex License Charges). For many of the sites still using PSLC they are using a combination of PSLC and MULC. This MULC applies to some key products such as DB2, CICS, IMS, and importantly MQ Series. If you use a small amount of processing power you may be able to save money with MULC. Many sites have MQ licensed this way because the one MSU each of you is using is certainly much less than paying for your installed capacity as otherwise is the basis of PSLC. Now on to Sub-Capacity Pricing with Workload License Charges. Once you start WLC you can no longer use MULC. So if you had DB2, CICS, IMS, MQ on MULC with WLC they will be charged based on the 4 hour rolling average of the LPARs where they run. Some sites only had MQ series on MULC, and they still could not save money with WLC because of the increase from they small usage of MQ in CPU time, to the 4HRA of the LPARs. And if you use MQ it is often in most of your LPARs. As you wrote $10,120 is SALC charge for 1 MSU of MQ's CPU Time. With WLC pricing for MQ V5, 123 MSUs of 4 hour rolling average in the LPARs running MQ the charge would be $10,108. So the point of SALC is to allow more sites to move to WLC and have a smaller charge for MQ than the WLC charges would lead to. This is one of those points that IBM may not tell you about. Remember which consultant told you about this when you want an independent analysis! Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting Expertise on Capacity Planning, Performance Tuning, WLC, LPARs, IRD and LCS Software Seminars on IBM SW Pricing, LPARs, and IRD Voice: +1 414 332-3062 Web: www.sherkow.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Performance of DB2 V9 under z/OS V1.7 vs. V1.9
Not sure if this should be posted over on the DB2 newsgroup, but I thought I would start here. I am looking for information on whether DB2 V9 runs better under z/OS V1.7 or V1.9. And what might those improvements might be. I believe I have read that under z/OS V1.9 the DB2 Buffers are handled much better by WLM under V1.9. I am looking through the redbooks and migration guides, I just thought if someone has already researched, they might help me speed through this analysis process more quickly. As always. Thank Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on ARCNMIGR
Hi Andy, Take a look at APARs: OA23236 OA23235. It looks like they are related to APARs: OA20831 OA16192 . We don't have HSM at our shop so I don't have any real world experience to offer you. Had you been using these 'new' HSM address spaces via the 'patches' APAR: OA23236 talks about or did you want to have HSM begin using those 'new' address spaces for the 1st time? HTH Glenn Miller -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on ARCNMIGR
Andy, My guess would be insufficient storage on your ARCxMIGR STC that is kicked off for DFHSM migration process. Do you know what your region size is set at in the PROC? This is new with z/OS V1.9. Lizette Anyone out there seeing this? I'm going open an ETR shortly with IBM but see this in our syslogs. DUMPID=147 REQUESTED BY JOB (ARCNMIGR) DUMP TITLE=COMPON=SSI,COMPID=5752SC1B6,ISSUER=IEFJSARR,MODULE=I EFJSRE1,ABEND=S878,REASON=0010,SNAME=SMS I checked IBMLINK I cant seem to find anything, this is on a z/OS 1.9 system in a plex with 5 systems at RSU0801. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on ARCNMIGR
Lizette Koehler wrote: My guess would be insufficient storage on your ARCxMIGR STC that is kicked off for DFHSM migration process. Do you know what your region size is set at in the PROC? These address spaces are started via ASCRE ... not a START command. Technically, the proc is IEESYSAS. But, that's just a skeleton. The executing JCL looks like: //IEESYSAS JOB REGION=0M,TIME=1440, // MSGLEVEL=1 //ARCxMIGR EXEC IEESYSAS,DYNAMNBR=1635,PROG=ADRXMAIB -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question on ARCNMIGR
Thanks Lizette - our region size on this system is The private area size 16M is 10240K. The proc we don't code region in out shop its the same as ZeroM or REGION=0M, it starts on the behalf of HSM. We will open an ETR I think in the AM I have one Dump. This is the proc //IEESYSAS PROC PROG=IEFBR14 //IEFPROC EXEC PGM=PROG //* THE IEESYSAS PROCEDURE IS SPECIFIED IN THE //* PARAMETER LIST TO IEEMB881 BY MVS COMPONENTS //* STARTING FULL FUNCTION SYSTEM ADDRESS SPACES. Thanks Andy S White Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] My guess would be insufficient storage on your ARCxMIGR STC that is kicked off for DFHSM migration process. Do you know what your region size is set at in the PROC? This is new with z/OS V1.9. Lizette Anyone out there seeing this? I'm going open an ETR shortly with IBM but see this in our syslogs. DUMPID=147 REQUESTED BY JOB (ARCNMIGR) DUMP TITLE=COMPON=SSI,COMPID=5752SC1B6,ISSUER=IEFJSARR,MODULE=I EFJSRE1,ABEND=S878,REASON=0010,SNAME=SMS I checked IBMLINK I cant seem to find anything, this is on a z/OS 1.9 system in a plex with 5 systems at RSU0801. The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That doesn't help if you want the programmer to work on a program but you
don't want him to take it with him.
If he can read it, he can copy it.
And, how protecting IND$FILE will not be enough.
There are many methods, but the crudest one cannot be protected except by
giving the programmer an old 3270 green screen (actually, take the PC away
from him (8-{}).
Even a green screen is no guarantee if the programmer smuggles a
camera into the office and takes pictures as he scrolls. Tedious
perhaps, but it would work.
Or, he could just write down on paper everything he sees on the screen.
Or, maybe he could just memorize it.
:-)
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Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
If you have a cell phone camera, it is not that big of an issue - no one
really thinks there is a camera in the building when it is in a cell phone.
Lizette
That doesn't help if you want the programmer to work on a program but you
don't want him to take it with him.
If he can read it, he can copy it.
And, how protecting IND$FILE will not be enough.
There are many methods, but the crudest one cannot be protected except by
giving the programmer an old 3270 green screen (actually, take the PC away
from him (8-{}).
Even a green screen is no guarantee if the programmer smuggles a
camera into the office and takes pictures as he scrolls. Tedious
perhaps, but it would work.
Or, he could just write down on paper everything he sees on the screen.
Or, maybe he could just memorize it.
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Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
If you have a cell phone camera, it is not that big of an issue - no one really thinks there is a camera in the building when it is in a cell phone. It depends where you work. Th company I recently got downsized from actually had a policy against cell cameras. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to audit the usage of IND$FILE
Don Leahy wrote: Even a green screen is no guarantee if the programmer smuggles a camera into the office and takes pictures as he scrolls. Tedious perhaps, but it would work. Camera? I have a VBS macro for IBM's PCOMM that scrolls forward and appends each screen's worth of data to a text file. It does this repeatedly until a pre-determined sequence -- signifying EOF -- is detected. I assume a similar macro can be authored with any of the popular emulators. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
