Re: Numeric TSO Userids
All, From the research I have done I agree with Walt in that it¹s a TSO restriction. If you logon (Full screen mode) and enter a numeric Userid you get the not valid message, press F1 and there is the message from TSO. Hence, my thinking I may be able to get at the field in a TSO EXIT and bypass the numeric check. The fact that ACF2 supports it means it can be done and from what I am seeing there are no issues with MVS commands, INTRDR, etc. Looks like I go back to the manuals to see if I can figure this out. Mark On 23/07/2008 03:00, Walt Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/22/2008 6:15 PM, Barry Schrager wrote: I agree -- HASP has nothing to do with this. The 7 character limit was imposed because submitted jobs had the Userid as the first 7 characters and had to attach another character/digit to make the submitted jobname unique. It never occurred to us that you might have 7 digit Userids when we created ACF2. That, it works, is a surprise to me. I guess that by bypassing UADS, nobody checks -- but RACF obviously does. Interesting, Barry. RACF doesn't check, and fully supports numeric user IDs. It has to be a TSO/E restriction, and I'm pretty sure that the standard TSO/E logon command parsing (and full-screen validation) will reject a numeric user ID, so I always figured it was done with logon exits and/or replacement of the logon command when another security product does allow it. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design ___ Mark Wilson Mobile: +44 (0) 7768 617006 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chairman GSE Large Systems Working Group. Large Systems Web Site is: http://lsx.gse.org.uk/ ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/23/2008 01:58:31 AM: Jim, is it safe to assume SCCBSAIX is always valid ???. Has agreed with SCCBSAI on the couple of systems I looked at. Maybe Mark Z could add a couple of lines to IPLINFO (if not already there; been a while since I pulled a new version). Shane ... However, if you use SYS1.MACLIB(IHASCCB) to map the area pointed to by CVTSCPIN (CVT+340), then SCCBSAI (or if it is zero, use SCCBSAIX) allows you to compute the increment size. I checked on the z800 that we use for most of our system test dump reading, and SCCBSAIX is set, so it is probably the case that all IBM z/Architecture processors set SCCBSAIX. However, I prefer to stick with the architecturally correct algorithm. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue
I checked on the z800 that we use for most of our system test dump reading, and SCCBSAIX is set, so it is probably the case that all IBM z/Architecture processors set SCCBSAIX. However, I prefer to stick with the architecturally correct algorithm. Thanks - easy enough to stick a check in. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
Yes, that's my understanding also, it's an HMC + z10 technical feature issue related to loading (and reloading) speed. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Numeric TSO Userids
Gee, who in the first place decided to use numeric userids, possibly supported by ACF2, but not by the rest of MVS? Sounds like allowing Syncsort options and then return to DFSORT, or allow PDSFAST options and then return to IEBCOPY or... If you did already prefix the userid with an Alpha character, can't you definitely change the userid to that prefixed value? It won't make any difference for the datasets, only the users have to get used to their 'new' userid, which they already know from their datasets? Kees. Mark Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Cross Posted to RACF-L and re posted to IBM Main Could anybody offer any ideas at all in this area? Regards Mark ** Hi, I am in the middle of migrating a customer from ACF2 to RACF and have encountered a problem. ACF2 supports the use of fully numeric TSO Userids. The customer has an exit in place that forces all dataset allocations to be prefixed with a Alpha character, getting around the dataset issues. However, if I migrate them to RACF, TSO does NOT support a fully numeric Userid. I know this is not supported by IBM, but does anyone have any ideas (TSO exit?), that I can use to support fully numeric TSO Userids. The customer does not what to change the RACF Userids to start with an alpha character for business/application reasons. Any help gratefully received. Regards, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Numeric TSO Userids
Kees, I cannot name names as they are still here :). I cannot change the numeric Users as the bussiness apps (none TSO) have it hard coded to support only numeric users. I have a work around which is two userids with password sync using RACF RACLINK. But this means changing Multsess to prefix the logon to TSO. Really looking for a way to support numeric TSO logon. Mark On 23/07/2008 08:00, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee, who in the first place decided to use numeric userids, possibly supported by ACF2, but not by the rest of MVS? Sounds like allowing Syncsort options and then return to DFSORT, or allow PDSFAST options and then return to IEBCOPY or... If you did already prefix the userid with an Alpha character, can't you definitely change the userid to that prefixed value? It won't make any difference for the datasets, only the users have to get used to their 'new' userid, which they already know from their datasets? Kees. Mark Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Cross Posted to RACF-L and re posted to IBM Main Could anybody offer any ideas at all in this area? Regards Mark ** Hi, I am in the middle of migrating a customer from ACF2 to RACF and have encountered a problem. ACF2 supports the use of fully numeric TSO Userids. The customer has an exit in place that forces all dataset allocations to be prefixed with a Alpha character, getting around the dataset issues. However, if I migrate them to RACF, TSO does NOT support a fully numeric Userid. I know this is not supported by IBM, but does anyone have any ideas (TSO exit?), that I can use to support fully numeric TSO Userids. The customer does not what to change the RACF Userids to start with an alpha character for business/application reasons. Any help gratefully received. Regards, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ___ Mark Wilson Mobile: +44 (0) 7768 617006 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chairman GSE Large Systems Working Group. Large Systems Web Site is: http://lsx.gse.org.uk/ ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
NVAS and REXX
I'm trying to get a LOGON REXX working in Netview Access Services. The REXX has been defined in the Logon REXX Exec field on panel Assign an Application to a Group, and it's available via the EMSREXEC concatenation. The REXX is invoked when I select the application from the Application Selection Panel. The problem I'm facing is that all NVASAPI SENDKEY actions give RC=-1. A subsequent DIAGNOSE shows code 46 (SENDKEY failed due to incorrect terminal status). No matter what actions I take, like waiting, I can't get the SENDKEY to work. As it's a CICS application I'm attempting this on, the first SENDKEY is a clear action (%C). Has anyone any functioning REXX that you are willing to share that works under the same conditions? Or is there a prerequisite for this to work that I'm not aware of? Thanks in advance Rob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NVAS and REXX
Problem solved. I was using the term_id option instead of the appl_id option in the NVASAPI CONNECT command. Thanks for listening. Rob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
I haven't read the license conditions, but if its just a technical limitation you could try running it under hercules under linux or your z9: iirc hercules can do z10 emulation these days. i -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:38:44 AM BST From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available Now I realize that IBM has valid reasons for the limitation ... What are the valid reasons? Why not z9 as well? It should be available for any supported processor that runs the OS! IBM always comes up short on this kind of stuff! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Numeric TSO Userids
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Wilson All, From the research I have done I agree with Walt in that it¹s a TSO restriction. If you logon (Full screen mode) and enter a numeric Userid you get the not valid message, press F1 and there is the message from TSO. Hence, my thinking I may be able to get at the field in a TSO EXIT and bypass the numeric check. The fact that ACF2 supports it means it can be done and from what I am seeing there are no issues with MVS commands, INTRDR, etc. Looks like I go back to the manuals to see if I can figure this out. From the z/OS 1.9 MVS JCL Reference manual, for the JOB statement: = Begin paste == 20.1.2 Name Field Code a jobname on every JOB statement, as follows: Each jobname must be unique. The jobname must begin in column 3. The jobname is 1 through 8 alphanumeric or national ($, #, @) characters. If your system uses ANSI tapes, the jobname must contain only alphanumeric characters; it must not contain national ($, #, @) characters. The first character must be alphabetic or national ($, #, @). End paste == Thus, it appears that jobnames beginning with a numeric userID would fail immediately. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ian S. Worthington I haven't read the license conditions, but if its just a technical limitation you could try running it under hercules under linux or your z9: iirc hercules can do z10 emulation these days. OMG, he said the H-word! :-/ -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Use of Symbol
We're putting together a new system and ran across a definition that we're not sure of its origin or usage. First copies here predate our arrival, and of course the guilty parties are gone. What is LPAR used for? In which manual is it addressed, because frankly we haven't dug it out yet. Many thanks to all of you who (patiently) guide us who are confused. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog
No way! Not even from another system. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:59:48 -0500, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ding ding ding! We have a winner. Of course this bypasses the check that prevents deleting an active page dataset. Be vewy vewy careful! heheheheheheheh snip //STEP01 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DISK1DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=H5PAG1,DISP=SHR //SYSINDD * DELETE PAGE.AQH2.PLPA - PAGESPACE - FILE(DISK1) - CATALOG(SYS1.ZOS17.MCAT) /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of Symbol
Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... We're putting together a new system and ran across a definition that we're not sure of its origin or usage. First copies here predate our arrival, and of course the guilty parties are gone. What is LPAR used for? In which manual is it addressed, because frankly we haven't dug it out yet. Many thanks to all of you who (patiently) guide us who are confused. LPAR is not a standard symbol, so it must have been created in your IEASYMxx member(s) of SYS1.PARMLIB. There you can find out what it is and possibly what it is used for (Lparname, Lparid etc.). Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of Symbol
You might want to check your IEASYM member and see if there is a SYMDEF coded for it. Lizette We're putting together a new system and ran across a definition that we're not sure of its origin or usage. First copies here predate our arrival, and of course the guilty parties are gone. What is LPAR used for? In which manual is it addressed, because frankly we haven't dug it out yet. Many thanks to all of you who (patiently) guide us who are confused. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:55:38 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another possibility is to simply create the PAGESPACE in the current system's master catalog. Then, just do a DEFINE PAGESPACE ... RECATALOG CAT(other.mastercat) . One nice thing is that a PAGESPACE can be defined in multiple catalogs at the same time. I would be surprised if DIAGNOSE/EXAMINE did not hiccup on this. Lessons from the past... PAGESPACE is VSAM and therefore requires a VVR entry. Duplicate catalog entries create duplicate VVR records, leading to problems not with normal access, but with DELETE/DEFINE. Personally, I prefer your MLA suggestion. Regards, Art Gutowski Ford Motor Comany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Dump management
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:44:49 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I established operlog here, I got temporary update access to all ISPF profiles for the company to change the default log a in SDSF to log s to not 'irritate everybody'. Since it was too late for me to change the default in the SDSF parms I used the ISFUSER exit instead of updating profiles. http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0510L=ibm-mainD=1amp;O=DX=5C28D7764F4450405CP=75777 -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Dump management
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:44:49 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing that I really hate is that it also takes just about forever when I look into syslog - log s (even on the same system). How much syslog do you keep in your spool (hours, days, weeks)? Also, that depends on how often someone does it and update HASPINDX. Sometimes my first access in the morning is slow if it is one of the systems that operators don't look at the syslog (LPARs that don't run batch jobs like SAP and WebSphere). Some of our systems keep 24 hours, others only 12 hours. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:58:31 +1000, Shane Ginnane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, is it safe to assume SCCBSAIX is always valid ???. Has agreed with SCCBSAI on the couple of systems I looked at. Maybe Mark Z could add a couple of lines to IPLINFO (if not already there; been a while since I pulled a new version). Shane ... However, if you use SYS1.MACLIB(IHASCCB) to map the area pointed to by CVTSCPIN (CVT+340), then SCCBSAI (or if it is zero, use SCCBSAIX) allows you to compute the increment size. Not there. I'll look at doing it... seems simple enough. I wonder what it will look like on a FLEX/ES machine. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of Symbol
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:31:13 -0500, Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're putting together a new system and ran across a definition that we're not sure of its origin or usage. First copies here predate our arrival, and of course the guilty parties are gone. What is LPAR used for? In which manual is it addressed, because frankly we haven't dug it out yet. Many thanks to all of you who (patiently) guide us who are confused. It is a locally defined symbol. Only you can figure out what it means. Look at IEASYMxx. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:41:00 -0500, Arthur Gutowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:55:38 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another possibility is to simply create the PAGESPACE in the current system's master catalog. Then, just do a DEFINE PAGESPACE ... RECATALOG CAT(other.mastercat) . One nice thing is that a PAGESPACE can be defined in multiple catalogs at the same time. I would be surprised if DIAGNOSE/EXAMINE did not hiccup on this. Lessons from the past... PAGESPACE is VSAM and therefore requires a VVR entry. Duplicate catalog entries create duplicate VVR records, leading to problems not with normal access, but with DELETE/DEFINE. It does spit out a warning when you do this.I know because we catalog our IODFs that way and I catalog my zFS files that way in one environment that shares the sysres set but spans multiple sysplexes / monoplexes / master catalogs. Someday I may change that to do something with symbolicrelate instead, but this hasn't caused any problems so far. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Code Page 1047 vs 037 (Was: coming soon ...)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/08/2008 at 08:30 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Looks just like plain garbage to be. Does your 3270 simulator support use of the Graphics Escape (GE) character? As I recall, ISPF expects [ and ] to come in as GE 'AA'x and 'GE 'BB'x, replacing the two-character sequences with 'AD'x and 'BD'x. Outgoing it replaces single characters with two-character sequences as appropriate. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Code Page 1047 vs 037 (Was: coming soon ...)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/08/2008 at 02:18 PM, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I suspect a) that the original devices with this TEXT keyboard had a special shift key or something that would allow input of these graphical drawing characters, b) that this function predated the advent of the graphics escape character set, and c) that the drawing characters appeared correctly without translation on those devices. As I recall, there was an Alt key but not all displayable characters could be entered from the keyboard. I'm pretty sure that there was no GE on the 3275 or 3277. Presumably, ISPF translates for graphics-escape-capable emulators to provide end-user-apparent compatibility for text-based graphics built using those devices. Not just drawing; brackets require GE sequences. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Delete PAGESPACE in other catalog
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:34:13 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No way! Not even from another system. After thinking about that I think I was wrong, unless something has changed in z/OS. I recall someone crashing a sanbox LPAR that way at a client of mine (about 8 or 9 years ago). But I'm sure you can't delete one from the same system you are running on. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
Re post from: Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I am not a lawyer, etc. etc. but as far as I can see the licence agreement doesn't say you must run it on a z10 only. Perhaps there is a genuine technical limitation, e.g. it uses some of the new instructions or a new HMC interface, or maybe it specifically tests for the right machine. Indeed it is a technical limitation. The DVD-RAM loads from the DVD drive in the HMC and the z10 interface to the DVD is much, much faster than the interface in the older hardware. My understanding is that the DVD should load in some number of minutes on a z10 as opposed to some number of hours on an older machine. It would not be in anyone's best interests if we billed this as being supported on anything other than a z10. David -- David J. Chase, WW zSeries Software Sales-- --IBM 18th Fl, 11 Madison Ave, NYC, NY 10010 -- -- 917-472-3346 - dchase at us.ibm.com -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
David For us folks who are only looking to get z10 late this year early next 2009, is there not a way to evaluate on a z9.? Regards Gerard Ceruti may the 'z' be with you -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David J. Chase Sent: 23 July 2008 02:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available Re post from: Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I am not a lawyer, etc. etc. but as far as I can see the licence agreement doesn't say you must run it on a z10 only. Perhaps there is a genuine technical limitation, e.g. it uses some of the new instructions or a new HMC interface, or maybe it specifically tests for the right machine. Indeed it is a technical limitation. The DVD-RAM loads from the DVD drive in the HMC and the z10 interface to the DVD is much, much faster than the interface in the older hardware. My understanding is that the DVD should load in some number of minutes on a z10 as opposed to some number of hours on an older machine. It would not be in anyone's best interests if we billed this as being supported on anything other than a z10. David -- David J. Chase, WW zSeries Software Sales-- --IBM 18th Fl, 11 Madison Ave, NYC, NY 10010 -- -- 917-472-3346 - dchase at us.ibm.com -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ Standard Bank email Disclaimer and confidentiality note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the content clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and its subsidiaries. It is confidential, private and intended for only the addressee. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail immediately. Do not disclose or use it in any way. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of Standard Bank Group. Standard Bank Group accepts no liability for any loss or damages howsoever incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email or its attachments. Standard Bank Group does not warrant the integrity of this e-mail nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. Licensed divisions of the Standard Bank Group are authorised financial services providers in terms of the Financial Advisory and Intermediary Services Act, No 37 of 2002 (FAIS). For information about the Standard Bank Group visit our website http://www.standardbank.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
In a message dated 7/23/2008 9:06:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2009, is there not a way to evaluate on a z9.? What if you ordered a backup HMC for the Z10 and took immediate delivery? **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Dump management
I just have our scheduler system submit a batch SDSF job every morning @0700 that issues a LOG S followed by ++ALL and that updates HASPINDX. No more waiting on SYSLOG when I get in the morning. Dennis -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dump management On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:44:49 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing that I really hate is that it also takes just about forever when I look into syslog - log s (even on the same system). How much syslog do you keep in your spool (hours, days, weeks)? Also, that depends on how often someone does it and update HASPINDX. Sometimes my first access in the morning is slow if it is one of the systems that operators don't look at the syslog (LPARs that don't run batch jobs like SAP and WebSphere). Some of our systems keep 24 hours, others only 12 hours. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Dump management
Nice. I wouldn't want to set that up for 30 systems though (even if I could schedule it myself). I'm not that impatient. :-) Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:31:20 -0500, Dennis Trojak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just have our scheduler system submit a batch SDSF job every morning @0700 that issues a LOG S followed by ++ALL and that updates HASPINDX. No more waiting on SYSLOG when I get in the morning. Dennis -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dump management On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:44:49 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing that I really hate is that it also takes just about forever when I look into syslog - log s (even on the same system). How much syslog do you keep in your spool (hours, days, weeks)? Also, that depends on how often someone does it and update HASPINDX. Sometimes my first access in the morning is slow if it is one of the systems that operators don't look at the syslog (LPARs that don't run batch jobs like SAP and WebSphere). Some of our systems keep 24 hours, others only 12 hours. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of Symbol
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:00:24 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:31:13 -0500, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: What is LPAR used for? In which manual is it addressed, because frankly we haven't dug it out yet. It is a locally defined symbol. Only you can figure out what it means. Look at IEASYMxx. You might want to scan PARMLIB, PROCLIB, TCP/IP parms, CList libraries etc. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
strange module SSASQLIB
Hello everybody, Recently in profiling reports of our production CICS regions (using Strobe) module SSASQLIB has appeared (it was mentioned as it used about 5% of CPU consumption by region). I suppose it's module (STROBE shows also offsets in module when CPU spends most of the time), but I can't find where it comes from??? I looked in: LPA list linklist DFHRPL list STEPLIB also in STROBE libraries but there wasn't such module in those libraries. I looked using Google too.:) DO you have any ideas how to pinpoint what it is or/and where it comes from? any ideas will be appreciated REgards, Pawel Leszczynski PKO BP SA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of Symbol
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:00:24 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:31:13 -0500, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: What is LPAR used for? In which manual is it addressed, because frankly we haven't dug it out yet. It is a locally defined symbol. Only you can figure out what it means. Look at IEASYMxx. You might want to scan PARMLIB, PROCLIB, TCP/IP parms, CList libraries etc. Use the D SYMBOLS operator command to display static symbols. You can define them in IEASYMxx or there is the ASASYMBM service call some program might have used. George Fogg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: strange module SSASQLIB
The TSO LOCATE command, off the CBT Tape, is handy for searches like this. Could this SSASQLIB be related to SAS? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: strange module SSASQLIB Hello everybody, Recently in profiling reports of our production CICS regions (using Strobe) module SSASQLIB has appeared (it was mentioned as it used about 5% of CPU consumption by region). I suppose it's module (STROBE shows also offsets in module when CPU spends most of the time), but I can't find where it comes from??? I looked in: LPA list linklist DFHRPL list STEPLIB also in STROBE libraries but there wasn't such module in those libraries. I looked using Google too.:) DO you have any ideas how to pinpoint what it is or/and where it comes from? any ideas will be appreciated REgards, Pawel Leszczynski PKO BP SA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: strange module SSASQLIB
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:24:28 -0500, Pawel Leszczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, Recently in profiling reports of our production CICS regions (using Strobe) module SSASQLIB has appeared (it was mentioned as it used about 5% of CPU consumption by region). I suppose it's module (STROBE shows also offsets in module when CPU spends most of the time), but I can't find where it comes from??? I looked in: LPA list linklist DFHRPL list STEPLIB also in STROBE libraries but there wasn't such module in those libraries. I looked using Google too.:) I looked into this a while back but can't find any emails / notes about it. Maybe I found it on Compuware's web site?? Anyway, it is a module that Strobe dynamically implants as part of their monitoring. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
Does anyone recall how to determine the one byte value that results from a column on an 80-byte card that was overpunched with the 0-8-2 holes punched out? Please tell me, in hex, e.g. X'82' (for example only). Thanks. Mark S. Waterbury -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
According to my S/370 RefCard 0-8-2 will produce x'E0' snip Subject: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results? Does anyone recall how to determine the one byte value that results from a column on an 80-byte card that was overpunched with the 0-8-2 holes punched out? Please tell me, in hex, e.g. X'82' (for example only). Thanks. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Card Code
HEX '89' is 12-0-9 0-2-8 is HEX 'E0' -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:04 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ceruti, Gerard G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David For us folks who are only looking to get z10 late this year early next 2009, is there not a way to evaluate on a z9.? For some time now, it has been the case that IBM is willing to provide z/VM for a no-cost evaluation. (And not just z/VM, but IFLs and real storage.) It's just been something of a pain to arrange, since there wasn't an official offering for that, so there was a lot of bureaucracy involved. That option is still available to people that don't have a z10, or likely to have one soon. So, in essence, the only thing that has changed is that z10 owners have a much easier way to evaluate z/VM for a proof of concept project than was available before. Hence, all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and condemnations of IBM for coming up short are totally unfounded. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RRS/DB2 JDBC definition and implementation
Hi everybody! I need your help for this: to get a detailed documentation on how to know: 1) All z/OS Resources required to implement the RRS 2) RRS detailed implementation considerations 3) RRS configuration 4) DB2 JDBC/SQLJ Driver for z/OS, with the version that belongs DB2 8, detailed implementation and configuration. (JCC) 5) How to validate WLM application environment. Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:04:01 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving 3390-3 to 3390-9 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mark Zelden wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:05:45 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If you're moving from say 99 mod-3s to 99 mod 9s, then this software does what you want. But, what if you're moving from 99 mod-3s to 33 mod-9s? Ahhh... then you need FDRMOVE (FDRPAS the first volume, FDRMOVE the other data sets). Or TDMF + LDMF (or LDMF volume migrate + LDMF). So is all of this movement transparent to running applications? Or is only the FDRPAS/TDMF part transparent? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ Tenemos lo que búscas…JUEGOS. http://club.prodigymsn.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ P.D. Checa las nuevas fotos de mi Space http://home.services.spaces.live.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
2008/7/23 Mark Waterbury [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone recall how to determine the one byte value that results from a column on an 80-byte card that was overpunched with the 0-8-2 holes punched out? Please tell me, in hex, e.g. X'82' (for example only). Thanks. Do you mean an algorithm? Or just the value for 0-8-2 specifically (which is X'E0', from the green or yellow card)? I'm not sure there is an overall algorithm, though obviously there are certain patterns to be seen. But 80-column cards long precede EBCDIC, and indeed 8-bit codes in general, so the mapping between the 12-bit card code and 8-bit EBCDIC is largely arbitrary, outside the basic printable characters. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Card Code
In a message dated 7/23/2008 11:02:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HEX '89' is 12-0-9 There used to be a simulator online, but can't find it? Don't remember if it took overpunches or alphanumeric. **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
Tony Harminc wrote: Do you mean an algorithm? ... I'm not sure there is an overall algorithm, though obviously there are certain patterns to be seen. Of course there is an algorithm. Card readers implement it. In fact, it can be deduced (or reverse engineered) simply by use of Boolean algebra. It was one of the first assignments given by Fred Brooks in his graduate computer architecture course. The goal, of course, was to (painfully) lay out the de facto logic that transformed the binary card row values (given on the green card) to yield the corresponding S/360 byte values, then reduce all that to the simplest possible circuit using Boolean algebra. The simplest implementation in the class was about 70 Sheffer strokes, although Dr. Brooks said that the (even then-old) 2540 did it with a much simpler circuit (if one ignored the parity bit that got generated, and all the internal self-checking logic, which was critical, and all of the extra logic to detect invalid hole punch combinations). -- WB -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Card Code
There is an emulator at http://www.kloth.net/services/cardpunch.php Bill On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:24:12 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/23/2008 11:02:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HEX '89' is 12-0-9 There used to be a simulator online, but can't find it? Don't remember if it took overpunches or alphanumeric. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Waterbury) writes: Does anyone recall how to determine the one byte value that results from a column on an 80-byte card that was overpunched with the 0-8-2 holes punched out? Please tell me, in hex, e.g. X'82' (for example only). Thanks. greencard is your friend ... although my online version doesn't have the punch card codes (quickdirty conversion of old gcard ios3270): http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html however, this reference has punch card codes (as well as hex to character codes) http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/cards/codes.html table from above ... the table labels rows (from top-to-bottom): 12, 11, 10, 1, ..., 9. Other common use has row 10 referred to as 0. 00 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 A0 B0 C0 D0 E0 F0 ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ 0|NUL| |DS | |SP | | - | | | | | | | | | 0 |0 |__1|___|__2|___|__3|__4|__5|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 1| | |SOS| | | | / | | a | j | | | A | J | | 1 |1 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 2| | |FS | | | | | | b | k | s | | B | K | S | 2 |2 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 3| |TM | | | | | | | c | l | t | | C | L | T | 3 |3 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 4|PF |RES|BYP|PN | | | | | d | m | u | | D | M | U | 4 |4 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 5|HT |NL |LF |RS | | | | | e | n | v | | E | N | V | 5 |5 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 6|LC |BS |EOB|UC | | | | | f | o | w | | F | O | W | 6 |6 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 7|DEL|IL |PRE|EOT| | | | | g | p | x | | G | P | X | 7 |7 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 8| | | | | | | | | h | q | y | | H | Q | Y | 8 |8 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 9| | | | | | | | | i | r | z | | I | R | Z | 9 |9 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| A| | | | | ¢ | ! | | : | | | | | | | | |2-8 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| B| | | | | . | $ | , | # | | | | | | | | |3-8 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| C| | | | | | * | % | @ | | | | | | | | |4-8 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| D| | | | | ( | ) | _ | ' | | | | | | | | |5-8 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| E| | | | | + | ; | | = | | | | | | | | |6-8 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| F| | | | | | | ¬ | ? | | | | | | | | | |7-8 |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___| 12 11 10 12 11 10 12 11 10 12 11 10 9 9 9 10 12 11 10-2-8 (aka, 0-2-8) is x'6A'. I still remember 12-2-9 (x'02') as column one of compiler and assembler outputs ... i.e. ESD, TXT, etc cards. maybe, I add the above table to my gcard.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
David J. Chase wrote: Indeed it is a technical limitation. The DVD-RAM loads from the DVD drive in the HMC and the z10 interface to the DVD is much, much faster than the interface in the older hardware. My understanding is that the DVD should load in some number of minutes on a z10 as opposed to some number of hours on an older machine. It would not be in anyone's best interests if we billed this as being supported on anything other than a z10. I don't mind waiting hours for the DVD to load. It can run all night for all I care. It only has to be loaded once. Right? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
I too don't care how long it takes to load. Can it run on a z800? I would very much like to do a POC with z/VM and z/Linux. If it can run on z machines other than the z10, why not just let us know the caveats? The slow initial DVD load can take a week and I would still be interested. Linda Mooney -- Original message -- From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] David J. Chase wrote: Indeed it is a technical limitation. The DVD-RAM loads from the DVD drive in the HMC and the z10 interface to the DVD is much, much faster than the interface in the older hardware. My understanding is that the DVD should load in some number of minutes on a z10 as opposed to some number of hours on an older machine. It would not be in anyone's best interests if we billed this as being supported on anything other than a z10. I don't mind waiting hours for the DVD to load. It can run all night for all I care. It only has to be loaded once. Right? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Card Code
In a message dated 7/23/2008 12:04:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: _http://www.kloth.net/services/cardpunch.php_ (http://www.kloth.net/services/cardpunch.php) That one's more graphical(output). The one I remember allowed typing and maybe even backspacing. I thought it was in the archives but maybe aren't chanting the right syllables **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Enterprise Scheduler
Hello, We currently have a home-grown scheduling package running on our mainframe which is used to schedule jobs on the mainframe as well as on some Unix boxes. There is a desire to move away from this home-grown scheduler to an 'Enterprise Scheduler' that will run on a server with an as yet unnamed operating system but be able to schedule and interface jobs on the mainframe running z/OS as well as on other machines running Unix, Windows, etc. Is anyone doing this type of scheduling and if so can you share what operating system is running on the server hosting the scheduling software? What type of other operating systems is this scheduler interfacing with? Have you run into any major difficulties implementing this type of scheduling system? I realize this is not strictly a mainframe question so if anyone has a different forum I can address my question to please direct me to that forum. Thanks in advance for any and all responses. Kurt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Getting from VSCobol to zCobol in CICS gracefully wiht MacKinney's RM31
Just a Thank-you to all who replied about my situation in getting from VSCobol to zCobol in CICS. Thanks to suggestions from the lists, we found MacKinney's RM31 product which allows you to selectively, or en masse, move CICS programs above the line and act just like (as far as we are concerned) they are really Amode 31 Rmode ANY. This means that we can continue running our VSCobol (and assembler) in TS2.2 and convert them one at a time to zCobol rather than having to do them all at once. Makes my Applications manager happy, relieves my short on storage below the line problems, improves performance, and lets us move gracefully (well, sort of) to TS3+. Great product, easy to install and manage. Sorry we couldn't hire someone to help the conversion, but glad we saved some money. Thanks again. (Unsolicited endorsement... and unpaid... darn it) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 10-2-8 (aka, 0-2-8) is x'6A'. I still remember 12-2-9 (x'02') as column one of compiler and assembler outputs ... i.e. ESD, TXT, etc cards. maybe, I add the above table to my gcard.html re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#42 IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?/a but 0-8-2 is one of the exceptions to the table ... showing up instead at x'E0' (from real green card, goes to show being too lazy to go dig it out of file) ... x'69' is 0-8-1 and x'6B' is 0-8-3, but x'6A' is 12-11 also from Basic Programming Support (BPS) http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/bps/C28-6503-6_basicPgmgSupport_Aug67.pdf -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:07:34 -0400, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/cards/codes.html That chart doesn't match the one in the 360 POO, which shows the table divided into four sections. 00-78 80-F9 09-7F 8A-FF The upper part of the table uses different zone punches for 4x, 5x, 6x, 7x, Cx, Dx, Ex and Fx. The x9 row is different between the left and right side. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:09:13 -0700, Kurt Eastwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, There is a desire to move away from this home-grown scheduler to an 'Enterprise Scheduler' that will run on a server with an as yet unnamed operating system but be able to schedule and interface jobs on the mainframe running z/OS as well as on other machines running Unix, Windows, etc. Is anyone doing this type of scheduling and if so can you share what operating system is running on the server hosting the scheduling software? What type of other operating systems is this scheduler interfacing with? Have you run into any major difficulties implementing this type of scheduling system? Well we run TWS ( former OPC) with end to end ( former Maestro i believe ) TWS runs under z/OS and it schedules jobs on z/OS of course on Unix servers ( aix on pseries) on Windows (2k, Xp pro, 2003 ) ( nt4 is officially not supported but it works somehow) Linux intel ( Redhat ) Windows server and Linux servers are either Intel Native or under Vmware ( esx 3) It can support more type of servers , but the ones i mentioned are the only one we use and schedule jobs on . You may contact me offline if you have questions . Bruno Sugliani zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
I believe that CA ESP has agents that will support a large number of platforms. The bad news is that it is CA. The master runs on z/os, of course. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Eastwood Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Enterprise Scheduler Hello, We currently have a home-grown scheduling package running on our mainframe which is used to schedule jobs on the mainframe as well as on some Unix boxes. There is a desire to move away from this home-grown scheduler to an 'Enterprise Scheduler' that will run on a server with an as yet unnamed operating system but be able to schedule and interface jobs on the mainframe running z/OS as well as on other machines running Unix, Windows, etc. Is anyone doing this type of scheduling and if so can you share what operating system is running on the server hosting the scheduling software? What type of other operating systems is this scheduler interfacing with? Have you run into any major difficulties implementing this type of scheduling system? I realize this is not strictly a mainframe question so if anyone has a different forum I can address my question to please direct me to that forum. Thanks in advance for any and all responses. Kurt NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
We are using BMC Control-M to schedule jobs on z/OS various flavors of Windows, AIX, etc. Have no complaints. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 System Commands Memory Reconfiguration Issue
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:57:13 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:58:31 +1000, Shane Ginnane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, is it safe to assume SCCBSAIX is always valid ???. Has agreed with SCCBSAI on the couple of systems I looked at. Maybe Mark Z could add a couple of lines to IPLINFO (if not already there; been a while since I pulled a new version). Shane ... However, if you use SYS1.MACLIB(IHASCCB) to map the area pointed to by CVTSCPIN (CVT+340), then SCCBSAI (or if it is zero, use SCCBSAIX) allows you to compute the increment size. Not there. I'll look at doing it... seems simple enough. It's there now along with a couple of other changes I had queued up (CSS ID and microcode level). I just posted the update to my web site and sent it off to Sam Golob for the CBT. Sample TSO %IPLINFO STOR output: *** * IPLINFO - SYSTEM INFORMATION FOR SYSE ** *** Today is Wednesday 2008-07-23 (2008.205). The local time is 14:08:54. The real storage size at IPL time was 10240M. The real storage increment size is 64M with 160 increments installed. The private area size 16M is 10240K. The private area size 16M is 1696M. The CSA size 16M is 2876K. The CSA size 16M is 200624K. The SQA size 16M is 1480K. The SQA size 16M is 72940K. The maximum V=R region size is 0K. The default V=R region size is 0K. TSO %IPLINFO output: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/iplinfo.html Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
At my last contract job, I upgraded CA ESP. That was the first time I worked with that product. I found their support was very good. The scheduler, who worked with ESP for a long time, really liked the product. He did say he thought that support suffered somewhat since the company that CA bought it from (Cybermation maybe?), but I found it very good whenever I had to call them. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Enterprise Scheduler I believe that CA ESP has agents that will support a large number of platforms. The bad news is that it is CA. The master runs on z/os, of course. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
Forgive the plug, but in many situations a distributed scheduler is not enough Using our (free) Co:Z toolkit, you can use a z/OS batch job to launch jobs on other platforms, and redirect I/O and return codes to the z/OS step. In addition, the process launched on the foreign server can use the same connection to access data in the context of the z/OS job step (even temporary datasets passed from previous steps). For more information, see: http://dovetail.com/coz Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
We also use the BMC Control-M. It works well. I was at a Unix Class and one of the other students was using Control-M on the Unix platform. He was very satisfied. Pat Pat Mihalec Rush University Medical Center Senior System Programmer (312) 942-8386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are using BMC Control-M to schedule jobs on z/OS various flavors of Windows, AIX, etc. Have no complaints. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
2008/7/23 William H. Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tony Harminc wrote: Do you mean an algorithm? ... I'm not sure there is an overall algorithm, though obviously there are certain patterns to be seen. Of course there is an algorithm. Card readers implement it. In fact, it can be deduced (or reverse engineered) simply by use of Boolean algebra. I didn't mean that there is no algorithm for converting holes punched to 8-bit values; there is a table, and obviously it can be implemented in logic. I meant that I doubt there is an algorithm for assigning all the values in the first place, or predicting them if you don't have the green card handy. The 2540 reader predates, and the 80-column card long predates both System/360 and the general use of an 8-bit byte, and so while mapping the then common characters from their pre-8-bit punchings to 8-bit encodings is easy, deciding what 8-bit value should result from say a 0-8-2 punch, as originally asked, is not, because the general pattern has exceptions. The goal, of course, was to (painfully) lay out the de facto logic exactly that transformed the binary card row values (given on the green card) to yield the corresponding S/360 byte values, then reduce all that to the simplest possible circuit using Boolean algebra. The simplest implementation in the class was about 70 Sheffer strokes, although Dr. Brooks said that the (even then-old) 2540 did it with a much simpler circuit (if one ignored the parity bit that got generated, and all the internal self-checking logic, which was critical, and all of the extra logic to detect invalid hole punch combinations). The 2540 was quite happy to read so-called column binary cards, that is cards with any 12-bit combination of holes punched. (Well, happy may be the wrong word, but the problems were mechanical rather than logical, and it was mostly the punching rather than the reading that gave trouble.) Later readers also had an optional column binary feature, and the mark sense and later OMR features used the same scheme. The S/360 interface (implemented in the 2821 control unit rather than the reader itself) could deliver the 2x6 bits embedded in two 8-bit bytes. I imagine a 2540 connected to a pre S/360 machine, would deliver 6-bit characters across the interface. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
We also use ESP and haven't had any problems with it. We use it to schedule tasks on z/OS, AIX, and Windows. Yes, it used to be a Cybermation product. CA bought Cybermation in 2006. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Enterprise Scheduler At my last contract job, I upgraded CA ESP. That was the first time I worked with that product. I found their support was very good. The scheduler, who worked with ESP for a long time, really liked the product. He did say he thought that support suffered somewhat since the company that CA bought it from (Cybermation maybe?), but I found it very good whenever I had to call them. Eric Bielefeld Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Enterprise Scheduler I believe that CA ESP has agents that will support a large number of platforms. The bad news is that it is CA. The master runs on z/os, of course. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
Another good thing about BMC Control-M is their fees are based on the number of scheduled jobs rather than the size of the processor so if you upgrade your processor you don't get dinged big time like CA, IBM, and other vendors do. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
Another good thing about BMC Control-M is their fees are based on the number of scheduled jobs rather than the size of the processor so if you upgrade your processor you don't get dinged big time like CA, IBM, and other vendors do. When did that happen? I worked at a control-m shop for a few years, until I was downsized last year. We were MSU-Based. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Command OGETX not found (!?)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/03/2008 at 10:28 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: While playing around with OGET in batch on z/OS 1.9, I saw the next topic in the manual Which manual? If it was a Unix manual then it's a Unix command and thus not directly available at the READY prompt. What happens if you go into a Unix shell[1] and issue the OGETX? Do SYSEXEC and SYSPROC have everything that they should? [1] Is that available from TSO batch? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
That's the deal we got. Don't know if it was negotiated. Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 07/23/2008 04:19 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Enterprise Scheduler Another good thing about BMC Control-M is their fees are based on the number of scheduled jobs rather than the size of the processor so if you upgrade your processor you don't get dinged big time like CA, IBM, and other vendors do. When did that happen? I worked at a control-m shop for a few years, until I was downsized last year. We were MSU-Based. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
That's the deal we got. Don't know if it was negotiated. It must have been. I was the technical resource on the negotiation team. We just managed to reduce the cost per MSU, and SCRT-based pricing. Wish we had thought of job-based! I might still be working there. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Code Page 1047 vs 037 - Green card confusion
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/08/2008 at 10:45 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Two columns of EBCDIC graphics are shown. The first gives IBM standard U.S. bit pattern assignments. The second shows the T-11 and TN text printing chains (120 graphics). What they don't tell you is that they relate to the IBM-supplied UCS images rather than to the TN and T11 print trains themselves. P.P.S -- Ed, would you please, please enlighten us with where info on this stuff can be mined -- I would happily RTFM if I know which FM(s) was(were) the right ones... Google for CECP. Don't blame me; I didn't coin the term. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Code Page 1047 vs 037 - 3278T setting
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/08/2008 at 09:58 AM, David Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Yeah, Ed. How do you figure these things out. It's documented, but you need to know where to look. The help data don't. :-( -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Enterprise Scheduler That's the deal we got. Don't know if it was negotiated. It must have been. I was the technical resource on the negotiation team. We just managed to reduce the cost per MSU, and SCRT-based pricing. Wish we had thought of job-based! I might still be working there. Now that is a nice method of truly sizing the work done by the product. However, if the jobs per months is hard coded, what happens it it is exceeded? Does the scheduler refuse to schedule any more jobs until the beginning of the next month? shudder Just issue nasty messages? Does a rerun count as another scheduled job? I think licensing a tape management product should be done by number of tapes managed, which to me means the maximum number of distinct volumes which can reside in its catalog. DBMS's could be licensed by how many TB are managed. Or number of table-rows. Or something like that. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
Now that is a nice method of truly sizing the work done by the product. However, if the jobs per months is hard coded, what happens it it is exceeded? Parm based. Bill more. Does the scheduler refuse to schedule any more jobs until the beginning of the next month? shudder NEVER! Just issue nasty messages? Warning maybe. Does a rerun count as another scheduled job? Negotiable. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Harminc) writes: The 2540 was quite happy to read so-called column binary cards, that is cards with any 12-bit combination of holes punched. (Well, happy may be the wrong word, but the problems were mechanical rather than logical, and it was mostly the punching rather than the reading that gave trouble.) Later readers also had an optional column binary feature, and the mark sense and later OMR features used the same scheme. The S/360 interface (implemented in the 2821 control unit rather than the reader itself) could deliver the 2x6 bits embedded in two 8-bit bytes. I imagine a 2540 connected to a pre S/360 machine, would deliver 6-bit characters across the interface. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#42 IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008k.html#43 IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results? on 360 reading column binary, read 80 columns into 160 bytes (i.e. column with effectively 12bits mapped into two 8bit bytes). pre-360 used BCD that mapped a single column into single 6bit value (EBCDIC subset). This was different from binary which mapped a column into two 6bit values. from gcard.html ... /3525 card-reader/punch CCW http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html#23 read, feed, select stacker CCW: SSD0 F010 3525 just shows SS as stacker 1 or 2; a real 2540 ... had 5 pockets, two that were punch only, two that were reader only ... and a middle pocket that could intermixed cards read cards punched ... so SS could be stacker 1, 2, or 3. D is either EBCDIC or card image (aka column binary ... two bytes per column). My first student programming job was porting 1401 MPIO program to 360/30. MPIO was card-to-tape tape-to-printer/punch utility where the university used 1401 as unit-record front-end to 709 (physically moving tapes back forth between 1401 and 709). 360/30 was brought in as part of migration that eventually replaced 709 with 360/67. The 360/30 could operate in 1401 hardware emulation mode ... and run the 1401 MPIO directly. However, I guess as part of migration to 360 ... I got the task of reimplementing MPIO utility in 360 assembler. I got to invent my own interrupt handlers, storage manager, task manager, device drivers, error recovery, etc. Part of the implementation was differentiating between BCD and binary cards on reading from 2540 ... and also differentiating between BCD and binary from tape ... for punching (punch 80 bytes as BCD or 160 bytes as binary). I also did a program for student registration that used the middle pocket. Normal student registration was sense marked cards on solid manilla colored cards. These were read one at a time from 2540 with stacker (middle) three selected. There was some amount of validating checking done ... and if there was some sort of error ... a blank card would be punched into the middle pocket (behind the registration card in error). The 2540 punch was loaded with cards that had colored stripe on the top edge. When all the cards were pulled from the middle stacker and placed in card tray ... all the registration cards in error were easily identified by an immediately following card with top colored stripe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
Mark, If the way for people without a z10 has been somewhat of a pain to arrange, and the new method removes that pain, with the added pain that need a z10, a machine that isn't (as of yet) available in a small scale version, IBM is indeed coming up short. What percentage of IBM customers own z10's? What percentage are under pressure from management to justify the alleged high expense of IBM mainframes, and could benefit from an evaluation of z/VM and Linux for System z? I will bet that the second number is close to a factor of 10 higher than the first number. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:04 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED] om, Ceruti, Gerard G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David For us folks who are only looking to get z10 late this year early next 2009, is there not a way to evaluate on a z9.? For some time now, it has been the case that IBM is willing to provide z/VM for a no-cost evaluation. (And not just z/VM, but IFLs and real storage.) It's just been something of a pain to arrange, since there wasn't an official offering for that, so there was a lot of bureaucracy involved. That option is still available to people that don't have a z10, or likely to have one soon. So, in essence, the only thing that has changed is that z10 owners have a much easier way to evaluate z/VM for a proof of concept project than was available before. Hence, all the wailing and gnashing of teeth and condemnations of IBM for coming up short are totally unfounded. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Code Page 1047 vs 037 (Was: coming soon ...)
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:08:55 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... As I recall, there was an Alt key but not all displayable characters could be entered from the keyboard. ... It's been over 20 years since I saw one but as I recall it was a rocker switch. In any case it was a togglable function - you didn't have to hold a special key down while typing one-handed. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster in the making
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/17/2008 at 10:45 AM, Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Low Bid. Many government entities are bound by law to solicit proposals from everyone and take the lowest bid. The Devil is in the details. They are not required to accept a bid that does not comply with the RFP and they are allowed to include evaluation criteria in the RFP. What typically happens is a failure in the requirements analysis. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Disaster in the making
--snip- Low Bid. Many government entities are bound by law to solicit proposals from everyone and take the lowest bid. The Devil is in the details. They are not required to accept a bid that does not comply with the RFP and they are allowed to include evaluation criteria in the RFP. What typically happens is a failure in the requirements analysis. ---unsnip--- Inadequate specifications also play a part in this process. All too often the guy writing the RFP has a poor understanding of the technical aspects, hurdles, etc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:26 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, If the way for people without a z10 has been somewhat of a pain to arrange, and the new method removes that pain, with the added pain that need a z10, a machine that isn't (as of yet) available in a small scale version, IBM is indeed coming up short. Nonsense. All of IBM's customers have the same options they had before for doing a no-cost evaluation of z/VM and Linux. Now, more customers than before have a less bureaucratic way of getting started on that evaluation, because of technical advancements in the hardware. That's called progress. Calling it anything else would be like complaining you can't run z/OS 1.9 on G5 CPC. (And yeah, I know there are people that are willing to complain about that also.) What percentage of IBM customers own z10's? What percentage are under pressure from management to justify the alleged high expense of IBM mainframes, and could benefit from an evaluation of z/VM and Linux for System z? I will bet that the second number is close to a factor of 10 higher than the first number. And as I've said (repeatedly now), there's nothing stopping _any_ of the customers in that second category from doing a no-cost evaluation today. IBM will even lend you IFLs and real storage to go along with it. What's not to like? Not much, from what I can see. I think some people just like to complain too much. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
VSAM dataset - when was it last accessed??
Hi, Apart from SMF records, is there some way of determining when a VSAM dataset was last accessed?? Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise Scheduler
At 01:09 PM 7/23/2008, you wrote: Is anyone doing this type of scheduling and if so can you share what operating system is running on the server hosting the scheduling software? I haven't yet used this product in production; we're just beginning an evaluation as part of a mothball the mainframe project. But it seems fairly robust, and the price is right. http://jobscheduler.sourceforge.net/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code results?
At 15:48 -0400 on 07/23/2008, Tony Harminc wrote about Re: IBM 029 keypunch -- 0-8-2 overpunch -- what hex code re: The 2540 was quite happy to read so-called column binary cards, that is cards with any 12-bit combination of holes punched. (Well, happy may be the wrong word, but the problems were mechanical rather than logical, and it was mostly the punching rather than the reading that gave trouble.) Later readers also had an optional column binary feature, and the mark sense and later OMR features used the same scheme. The S/360 interface (implemented in the 2821 control unit rather than the reader itself) could deliver the 2x6 bits embedded in two 8-bit bytes. I imagine a 2540 connected to a pre S/360 machine, would deliver 6-bit characters across the interface. I once worked in a shop with one of those 2540s which was used to read an odd-ball card whose Cols 1-40 were in EBCDIC and Cols 41-80 was Column Binary (ie: 120 characters of data per card) - Don't ask why the card was formatted this way. The cards were read in real-time (spooling would not work) by reading the card in EBCDIC with no feed/pocket selection and DATA-BLOCKING (so it would not error on the CB Columns). The card was then read again (from the Reader's Buffer) in CB mode and and Feed/Pocket Select to eject the card. All was good until the bean counters replaced the 2540 with a 2501 Reader (you get one crack at the card image). So I write a program that read the card in CB mode and internally converted the EBCDIC columns from CB to Internal EBCDIC. Once I got the card-image punch code mappings the program was simple. It moved a mask string of the even numbers from 0-78 followed by the odds from 1-79 into a work area. Doing a TR of the work area using the CB input as the TR Table separated the 12-3 rows from the 4-9 rows. Two TRs then converted the punches into the form 12-11-0-8-9-xxx (where xxx was the binary value of the assumed single punch in the 1-7 row). Doing a OC onto the first 40 bytes with the 2nd 40 bytes gave a card image of the punches. A TR of the first 40 bytes of the work area then did the conversion. Repeating the sequence with the last TR as a TRT did a sanity check to see that only one punch in a 1-7 row existed in each column (the first two TRs used x1234567 (x not used) mappings and the TRT looked for any byte with more than one 1 bit set (ie: any code from 00-7F other than 00/01/02/04/08/10/20/40). The program was so efficient that the 2501 ran at almost full speed. I still look back at this utility/QD-Hack as one of my better coding efforts since I wrote it in about an hour after the original programmer took over 2 weeks to write his program and had it taking 30-60 seconds per card. It turned out that he was straight out of programming school and was doing a binary search one column at a time until he got his match (at least the 256 possible matches were ordered so that only 8 needed to be done per column - I gave him an A for effort and implementation of his design and an F for the poor choice of design). He had never had the use of the TR as a data movement instruction taught him in school. If it was written now, I could of course use the TR version that Translates a 2byte string into a single byte (although the sanity check would still be needed via a table that did the TR to a non-zero value for all but the 256 valid punch combinations and then the TRT to spot a non-zero result). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF syslog slow access, was: Dump management
How much syslog do you keep in your spool (hours, days, weeks)? Also, that depends on how often someone does it and update HASPINDX. 24 hours on every system. Which is why I'd rather use operlog when I know something stretches across midnight. I'll keep in mind that the long time for the first access is due to the haspindx update, should this become a general complaint around here... It always feels like forever, and yes, mostly on those systems nobody ever really has a need to look at Best regards, Barbara -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM Evaluation Edition Now Available
We did ask our IBM rep, about a year ago. We were told that IBM didn't loan that but we could license all under Capacity on Demand. No trials, but we could load up Linux in an LPAR if we wanted, with the caveat that the performance would not be too swift. Until your note, we did not know of this evaluation availabilty. We have a new IBM rep, so I will ask him about this. If he doesn't know about this program either, I will send you his contact info. Thanks! Linda Mooney -- Original message -- From: Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:15 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Linda Mooney wrote: I too don't care how long it takes to load. Can it run on a z800? I would very much like to do a POC with z/VM and z/Linux. If it can run on z machines other than the z10, why not just let us know the caveats? The slow initial DVD load can take a week and I would still be interested. So, call your IBM rep and ask him to start the process to do a no-cost evaluation of z/VM. Tell him/her you'd also like an IFL or two, and some real storage loaned to you as well. Then download the Linux distribution of your choice, and wait for all the pieces to come together. If your IBM rep says they don't know what you're talking about, send me their name off-list, and they'll get a visit from the Clue Fairy. The other point I'd like to make here is that it's not just the initial load that would be slow on a z9 or older box. The z/VM system doesn't actually get installed to DASD with z/VM 5.3 EE. It loads everything from the DVD-RAM into storage, and executes from there. If you shut down the system, and re-IPL it, you get to wait again. For people with pre-z10 hardware, it really would be better to just an evaluation copy of z/VM 5.3. Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
