Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-02 Thread R.S.

Schwarz, Barry A pisze:

I guess you guys never have to support a customer whose system doesn't
even include TCP/IP, let alone anything modern.


I used to work in several shops where things were set up in constrast 
with common sense. In verey case simple things like PTF file upload can 
take much, much more time more than they should.


In case of lack of TCP/IP connection or (more frequent) ftp you still 
have IND$FILE, so it is not to bad.


In my shop one of my responsibilities is to make things easier.
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MIM - GRS conversion in practice

2009-06-02 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Hello group,

 

With the information from several discussions in the last year or so and
the new ability to convert from GRSRNL=EXCLUDE to GRSRNL=xx without a
Sysplex wide downtime, we had everything in place to execute the
scenario on our Testsysplex. 



There we ran into a sneaky MIM problem. MIM has implemented GRS exit
ISGNQXITBATCHCND with 2 modules named MIM=XXBC and MIM=QXFX.
Stopping MIM will not deactivate the exit and blocks the GRSRNL
conversion and because of the non-standard modulenames, the exit cannot
be deactivated either with a SET PROG=xx scenario.

 

Any ideas to tackle this hurdle?

 

Thanks,

Kees.

 



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Re: TCPIP Default keep alive question

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Mason
Vic

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Your precise answer is at the end of the post.

If there were such an API, it would be one of the options of either the 
getsockopt() call or the getibmsockopt() call and the equivalent in languages 
other than C.

You may be aware that the matter of TCP keep-alive is not quite as 
straightforward as it might be. To be sure I cover the topic correctly - as 
best 
I can - I'll quote what is said in the CS IP Configuration Reference regarding 
the value in which you are interested, the one that shows up in the NETSTAT 
CONFIG output as DefaultKeepALive specified by the PROFILE TCPCONFIG 
statement INTERVAL parameter:

quote

INTERVAL default_keepalive_interval

The default TCP keepalive interval for applications that enable the 
SO_KEEPALIVE socket option and do not override the interval using the 
TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option. The range is 0 - 35 791 minutes, and the 
default is 120. A value of 0 disables the keepalive function, so that sockets 
for which SO_KEEPALIVE is specified do not perform TCP keepalive. In this 
case, sockets specifying a specific interval using TCP_KEEPALIVE continue to 
send keepalive probes.

TCP keepalive probes end TCP connections after a period of inactivity. TCP 
keepalive is disabled by default for a connection, but can be enabled by 
issuing the SO_KEEPALIVE or TCP_KEEPALIVE socket options. The 
TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option enables the application to specify the keepalive 
probe interval, while the SO_KEEPALIVE socket option uses 
default_keepalive_interval as the interval.

After the interval has expired, TCP sends a single keepalive probe to the peer. 
If the TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option is not used to specify the probe interval, 
a total of ten probes are then sent at 75-second intervals if no response is 
received from the peer. If no response has been received 75 seconds after 
the last probe, the connection is reset. If TCP_KEEPALIVE is used to specify 
the keepalive probe interval, the number of probes and the interval between 
the probes might differ depending on the interval specified.

/quote

It was only after I read the last sentence that I realised the topic was even 
more complicated than I had initially supposed!

OK, INTERVAL sets a node-wide keepalive interval for those TCP sockets 
which have decided to call upon the keepalive service by requesting it by 
means of the setsockopt() SO_KEEPALIVE option. The default is for the 
service to be disabled. The value of the SO_KEEPALIVE option can be obtained 
by means of the getsockopt() call.

Note that, even if the program requests that the service is enabled, it can 
effectively be disabled on a node-wide basis, by setting 0 as the value for 
the INTERVAL parameter.

But there is also the TCP_KEEPALIVE option of the setsockopt() and 
getsockopt() calls. This requests the service and sets a value for the 
interval. 
Moreover it sets up a regime for conducting the keepalive testing should it be 
called upon - that's the unexpected complication in that last sentence!

quote

TCP_KEEPALIVE

Use this option to set or determine whether a socket-specific timeout value 
(in seconds) is to be used in place of a configuration-specific value whenever 
keep alive timing is active for that socket. When activated, the socket-
specified timer value remains in effect until respecified by SETSOCKOPT or 
until the socket is closed. See the z/OS Communications Server: IP 
Programmer's Guide and Reference for more information about the socket 
option parameters.  

/quote

The configuration-specific value is the value of the INTERVAL parameter 
when the service is enabled using the SO_KEEPALIVE option rather than the 
TCP_KEEPALIVE option.

For reasons best known to the manual authors the section you need now to 
consult for the specifics of how the TCP_KEEPALIVE option works is tucked 
away as the last section of the last chapter of the CS IP Programmer's Guide 
and Reference manual!

When you have read this section you may decide that the TCP_KEEPALIVE 
option better satisfies your needs that the mechanism associated with the 
PROFILE TCPCONFIG statement INTERVAL parameter and the SO_KEEPALIVE 
option.

-

Finally, to answer your question, I am not aware of an easy-to-use API which 
yields the value configured on the PROFILE TCPCONFIG statement INTERVAL 
parameter. It is possible to extract the value as an SNMP manager accessing 
the MIB variable ibmMvsTcpKeepAliveTimer, 1.3.6.1.4.1.2.6.19.2.2.2.4. If 
there's an easier way, I hope someone will jump in with the answer. I suspect 
some technique able to extract the value from the output of the NETSTAT 
CONFIG output might be the 

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-06-02 Thread Barbara Nitz
Your can divide this storage up in any format you like 3’s 24’s, what not.

Why the operate with mod 3’s is beyond me it cause more problems then it 
solves.

Maybe because changing to bigger volumes costs downtime of the control 
unit? At least I was told it does, as the CU cannot be reconfigured while 
active IO is going on. And downtime of the control unit means downtime for x 
number of lpars behind that control unit, most of them IPL-able 4 times per 
year. And no, we don't have enough money to have two CUs per lpar. 
Actually, we do, but those are the mirrors. 

Regards, Barbara Nitz

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Re: TCPIP Default keep alive question

2009-06-02 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Note that applications can set and override the keep-alive values.
We just spent 6 months resolving a problem with keep-alive timeouts and
it turned out that an application running on a Windows server was
setting the values and overriding TCP/IP and firewall settings (another
place where they set keep-alive). Mainframe applications can also set
the value.

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Subject: Re: TCPIP Default keep alive question

Vic

The best list to use for questions concerning the Communications Server
IP 
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Your precise answer is at the end of the post.

If there were such an API, it would be one of the options of either the 
getsockopt() call or the getibmsockopt() call and the equivalent in
languages 
other than C.

You may be aware that the matter of TCP keep-alive is not quite as 
straightforward as it might be. To be sure I cover the topic correctly -
as best 
I can - I'll quote what is said in the CS IP Configuration Reference
regarding 
the value in which you are interested, the one that shows up in the
NETSTAT 
CONFIG output as DefaultKeepALive specified by the PROFILE TCPCONFIG 
statement INTERVAL parameter:

quote

INTERVAL default_keepalive_interval

The default TCP keepalive interval for applications that enable the 
SO_KEEPALIVE socket option and do not override the interval using the 
TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option. The range is 0 - 35 791 minutes, and the 
default is 120. A value of 0 disables the keepalive function, so that
sockets 
for which SO_KEEPALIVE is specified do not perform TCP keepalive. In
this 
case, sockets specifying a specific interval using TCP_KEEPALIVE
continue to 
send keepalive probes.

TCP keepalive probes end TCP connections after a period of inactivity.
TCP 
keepalive is disabled by default for a connection, but can be enabled by

issuing the SO_KEEPALIVE or TCP_KEEPALIVE socket options. The 
TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option enables the application to specify the
keepalive 
probe interval, while the SO_KEEPALIVE socket option uses 
default_keepalive_interval as the interval.

After the interval has expired, TCP sends a single keepalive probe to
the peer. 
If the TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option is not used to specify the probe
interval, 
a total of ten probes are then sent at 75-second intervals if no
response is 
received from the peer. If no response has been received 75 seconds
after 
the last probe, the connection is reset. If TCP_KEEPALIVE is used to
specify 
the keepalive probe interval, the number of probes and the interval
between 
the probes might differ depending on the interval specified.

/quote

It was only after I read the last sentence that I realised the topic was
even 
more complicated than I had initially supposed!

OK, INTERVAL sets a node-wide keepalive interval for those TCP sockets

which have decided to call upon the keepalive service by requesting it
by 
means of the setsockopt() SO_KEEPALIVE option. The default is for the 
service to be disabled. The value of the SO_KEEPALIVE option can be
obtained 
by means of the getsockopt() call.

Note that, even if the program requests that the service is enabled, it
can 
effectively be disabled on a node-wide basis, by setting 0 as the
value for 
the INTERVAL parameter.

But there is also the TCP_KEEPALIVE option of the setsockopt() and 
getsockopt() calls. This requests the service and sets a value for the
interval. 
Moreover it sets up a regime for conducting the keepalive testing should
it be 
called upon - that's the unexpected complication in that last sentence!

quote

TCP_KEEPALIVE

Use this option to set or determine whether a socket-specific timeout
value 
(in seconds) is to be used in place of a configuration-specific value
whenever 
keep alive timing is active for that socket. When activated, the socket-
specified timer value remains in effect until respecified by SETSOCKOPT
or 
until the socket is closed. See the z/OS Communications Server: IP 
Programmer's Guide and Reference for more information about the socket 
option parameters.  

/quote

The configuration-specific value is the value of the INTERVAL
parameter 
when the service is enabled using the SO_KEEPALIVE option rather than
the 
TCP_KEEPALIVE option.

For reasons best known to the manual authors the section you need now to

consult for the specifics of how the TCP_KEEPALIVE option works is
tucked 
away as the last section of the last chapter of the CS IP Programmer's
Guide 
and Reference manual!

When you have read this section you may decide that the TCP_KEEPALIVE 
option better satisfies your needs that the mechanism 

Re: MIM - GRS conversion in practice

2009-06-02 Thread Rob Scott
Kees,

You have a couple of options that I can think of :

(1) Ask CA for assistance - maybe the MIM team have an official or un-official 
utility to help you.
(2) If you are comfortable with assembler, code up a quick+dirty pgm to invoke 
the CSVDYNEX service to delete the exit modules. 


Rob Scott
Developer
Rocket Software
275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA
Tel: +1.617.614.2305 
Email: rsc...@rs.com 
Web: www.rocketsoftware.com

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Subject: MIM - GRS conversion in practice

Hello group,

 

With the information from several discussions in the last year or so and the 
new ability to convert from GRSRNL=EXCLUDE to GRSRNL=xx without a Sysplex wide 
downtime, we had everything in place to execute the scenario on our 
Testsysplex. 



There we ran into a sneaky MIM problem. MIM has implemented GRS exit 
ISGNQXITBATCHCND with 2 modules named MIM=XXBC and MIM=QXFX.
Stopping MIM will not deactivate the exit and blocks the GRSRNL conversion and 
because of the non-standard modulenames, the exit cannot be deactivated either 
with a SET PROG=xx scenario.

 

Any ideas to tackle this hurdle?

 

Thanks,

Kees.

 



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Re: MIM - GRS conversion in practice

2009-06-02 Thread Shane
 There we ran into a sneaky MIM problem. MIM has implemented GRS exit
 ISGNQXITBATCHCND with 2 modules named MIM=XXBC and MIM=QXFX.
 Stopping MIM will not deactivate the exit and blocks the GRSRNL
 conversion and because of the non-standard modulenames, the exit cannot
 be deactivated either with a SET PROG=xx scenario.

Well, well, well - CA dropping exits all over the place that can't be
managed properly.
Who'da thought ?.

No doubt done for our convenience.

Shane ...

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Re: VSE RPG question

2009-06-02 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Subject: Re: VSE  RPG question

At 09:35 -0400 on 06/01/2009, Thompson, Steve wrote about Re: VSE  
RPG question:

SNIPPAGE
[snip of my comment about using auto-tabbing

And you are going to change your edit macro (or have it smart enough to
handle...) as you need to enter/update F/E/L/I/C/O/** specs?  (If you
don't know RPG, you won't recognize **).

BTDT, and it sucks.

I may be misunderstanding you but I fail to see how the need for 
DISPLAY Highlighting has anything to do with getting the text 
contents into the correct columns (which was the original complaint 
that I was responding to).
SNIP

Yes, you are misunderstanding. I worked with SPF long before ISPF and
with RPG on VS1 and MVS. Trying to set tabs to handle the different
fields for a CALC spec (or pick your favorite) is one thing. But trying
to get the edit macro(s) to automatically recognize that you have moved
from File spec (F) to Input spec (I) all the way to array/table
definitions without having hit enter just ain't gonna happen -- Because
you would have to hit enter after putting in the spec byte (H/F/E/L/I
etc.) so the editor would understand the rest of the statement. 

And then the attribute bytes needed for tabbing will get in the way.

I've also used terminals that allowed for the setting of tab points that
were not 3270 attributes. RPG is too complicated for them as well.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-06-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:22:25 -0400, Peter Flass
peter_fl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I've seen all of that - with cards with different cuts in the same
 deck, to make them easy to locate.

We used to just run a felt-tip pen across the top.  You could 
distinguish four colors of cards pretty easily.

But it is easy to grab a card that was added for a run, or grab the
source code separate from the JCL, if we could feel the difference.

One card-shark/magician trick with playing cards involves cards that
are trimmed to be narrower on one side than the other.  Without being
apparent to the eye, an card placed backwards can be grabbed with the
fingers easily.   Punched card decks can be worked in a similar
manner.

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INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-06-02 Thread Vikesh Bhoola
Hi there listers,
I've searched the archives of previous posts on the subject in the hope
someone has experienced the same problem. 
However I only managed few statements that perhaps indicate that INFOZIP
has a 2Gb limit.

The file we need to zip actually has: 15,694,524,498 Bytes
The INFOZIP ZIP JCL completes with RC=0 and the following info :

Translating to ASCII...

  adding: /yy/zzz/ONCEOFF1.A01 (in=2821109409) (out=1028850252)
(deflate
total bytes=2,821,109,409  compressed=1,028,850,252 - 64% savings


The INFOZIP job doesn't give any error message indicating that it
couldn't manage zipping the 14.6Gb file.

1. Is it correct that INFOZIP has a 2Gb limit which prevents this.
Should the job not have given an error message? Does anyone have a
work-around for the 2Gb limit in INFOZIP ?

2. Is there anyway to avoid the file xxx.yy.zzz.ONCEOFF1.A01 being
stored in the ZIP file as /yy/zzz/ONCEOFF1.A01

We are running z/OS 1.9  
Copyright (C) 1990-1999 Info-ZIP 
 Type 'zip -L' for software license.
 Zip 2.3 (November 29th 1999). 

Your advice on the above issues is most appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Vikesh
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Re: TCPIP Default keep alive question

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Mason
Eileen

Did you mean to alert us to the possibility that the *partner* TCP application 
may be using its own TCP keepalive service? Also that a firewall could be 
operating its own keepalive mechanism so that either partner could be subject 
to a keepalive regime although neither had actually requested one?

All that is certainly handy to know.

Since Vic is talking about a programming interface, he is posting in the IBM-
MAIN list and he refers to TSO NETSTAT it's certain he is talking about the 
Communications Server IP component. That being so, I have pointed out how 
he can control - through the sockets API - the TCP keepalive service in the IP 
node with about which he would appear to be most concerned.

However, it's true we haven't been told what he really wants to do and we 
can only guess based on the detailed query.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 08:40:12 -0400, Barkow, Eileen 
ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

Note that applications can set and override the keep-alive values.
We just spent 6 months resolving a problem with keep-alive timeouts and
it turned out that an application running on a Windows server was
setting the values and overriding TCP/IP and firewall settings (another
place where they set keep-alive). Mainframe applications can also set
the value.

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Subject: Re: TCPIP Default keep alive question

Vic

The best list to use for questions concerning the Communications Server
IP
component (even the Communications Server SNA component given that
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Your precise answer is at the end of the post.

If there were such an API, it would be one of the options of either the
getsockopt() call or the getibmsockopt() call and the equivalent in
languages
other than C.

You may be aware that the matter of TCP keep-alive is not quite as
straightforward as it might be. To be sure I cover the topic correctly -
as best
I can - I'll quote what is said in the CS IP Configuration Reference
regarding
the value in which you are interested, the one that shows up in the
NETSTAT
CONFIG output as DefaultKeepALive specified by the PROFILE TCPCONFIG
statement INTERVAL parameter:

quote

INTERVAL default_keepalive_interval

The default TCP keepalive interval for applications that enable the
SO_KEEPALIVE socket option and do not override the interval using the
TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option. The range is 0 - 35 791 minutes, and the
default is 120. A value of 0 disables the keepalive function, so that
sockets
for which SO_KEEPALIVE is specified do not perform TCP keepalive. In
this
case, sockets specifying a specific interval using TCP_KEEPALIVE
continue to
send keepalive probes.

TCP keepalive probes end TCP connections after a period of inactivity.
TCP
keepalive is disabled by default for a connection, but can be enabled by

issuing the SO_KEEPALIVE or TCP_KEEPALIVE socket options. The
TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option enables the application to specify the
keepalive
probe interval, while the SO_KEEPALIVE socket option uses
default_keepalive_interval as the interval.

After the interval has expired, TCP sends a single keepalive probe to
the peer.
If the TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option is not used to specify the probe
interval,
a total of ten probes are then sent at 75-second intervals if no
response is
received from the peer. If no response has been received 75 seconds
after
the last probe, the connection is reset. If TCP_KEEPALIVE is used to
specify
the keepalive probe interval, the number of probes and the interval
between
the probes might differ depending on the interval specified.

/quote

It was only after I read the last sentence that I realised the topic was
even
more complicated than I had initially supposed!

OK, INTERVAL sets a node-wide keepalive interval for those TCP sockets

which have decided to call upon the keepalive service by requesting it
by
means of the setsockopt() SO_KEEPALIVE option. The default is for the
service to be disabled. The value of the SO_KEEPALIVE option can be
obtained
by means of the getsockopt() call.

Note that, even if the program requests that the service is enabled, it
can
effectively be disabled on a node-wide basis, by setting 0 as the
value for
the INTERVAL parameter.

But there is also the TCP_KEEPALIVE option of the setsockopt() and
getsockopt() calls. This requests the service and sets a value for the
interval.
Moreover it sets up a regime for conducting the keepalive testing should
it be
called upon - that's the unexpected complication in that last sentence!

quote

TCP_KEEPALIVE

Use this option to set or determine whether a socket-specific timeout
value
(in seconds) is to be used in place of a 

Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-06-02 Thread Hal Merritt
What is the business mission? 

Doesn't sound like Infozip is the right tool for the job as very few files 
systems can handle a file that size. 

Just glancing at the maximums for various file systems, I'd say that 2gb is a 
practical limit. 

If this file is for use only on z/os, then I'd suggest SMS compression. 

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Vikesh Bhoola
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: INFOZIP 2Gb

Hi there listers,
I've searched the archives of previous posts on the subject in the hope
someone has experienced the same problem. 
However I only managed few statements that perhaps indicate that INFOZIP
has a 2Gb limit.

The file we need to zip actually has: 15,694,524,498 Bytes
The INFOZIP ZIP JCL completes with RC=0 and the following info :

Translating to ASCII...

  adding: /yy/zzz/ONCEOFF1.A01 (in=2821109409) (out=1028850252)
(deflate
total bytes=2,821,109,409  compressed=1,028,850,252 - 64% savings


The INFOZIP job doesn't give any error message indicating that it
couldn't manage zipping the 14.6Gb file.

1. Is it correct that INFOZIP has a 2Gb limit which prevents this.
Should the job not have given an error message? Does anyone have a
work-around for the 2Gb limit in INFOZIP ?

2. Is there anyway to avoid the file xxx.yy.zzz.ONCEOFF1.A01 being
stored in the ZIP file as /yy/zzz/ONCEOFF1.A01

We are running z/OS 1.9  
Copyright (C) 1990-1999 Info-ZIP 
 Type 'zip -L' for software license.
 Zip 2.3 (November 29th 1999). 

Your advice on the above issues is most appreciated.

Kind Regards,
Vikesh
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Re: TCPIP Default keep alive question

2009-06-02 Thread Barkow, Eileen
since last December we have been getting ASOD abends in certain CICS
transactions, which indicates that a premature 'RST' instead of a 'FIN'
was being issued, so CICS issued an abend in response to it.
the abends were documented as being in response to insufficient
keep-alive values and I reported the problem to CICS support, who said
to look into the use of 'port scanners', which were software packages
that Internet security might be running to scan the ports. And Internet
security also runs firewalls with a default timeout of 1 hour. our
TCP/IP is set to the default of 2 hours. 
the users were asked to check the server software and did not find that
it itself was setting keep-alive values, but
after 6 months, we finally found that the application itself running on
a windows server and which invokes the url to the CICS application was
setting connection timeout values. And someone  from the CICS list also
showed me a way to set the keep-alive directly from the CICS web
applications.

So, just knowing what the default TCP/IP values are might be
meaningless, since they can easily be overridden by user applications.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
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Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:37 AM
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Subject: Re: TCPIP Default keep alive question

Eileen

Did you mean to alert us to the possibility that the *partner* TCP
application 
may be using its own TCP keepalive service? Also that a firewall could
be 
operating its own keepalive mechanism so that either partner could be
subject 
to a keepalive regime although neither had actually requested one?

All that is certainly handy to know.

Since Vic is talking about a programming interface, he is posting in
the IBM-
MAIN list and he refers to TSO NETSTAT it's certain he is talking about
the 
Communications Server IP component. That being so, I have pointed out
how 
he can control - through the sockets API - the TCP keepalive service in
the IP 
node with about which he would appear to be most concerned.

However, it's true we haven't been told what he really wants to do and
we 
can only guess based on the detailed query.

Chris Mason

On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 08:40:12 -0400, Barkow, Eileen 
ebar...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:

Note that applications can set and override the keep-alive values.
We just spent 6 months resolving a problem with keep-alive timeouts and
it turned out that an application running on a Windows server was
setting the values and overriding TCP/IP and firewall settings (another
place where they set keep-alive). Mainframe applications can also set
the value.

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Subject: Re: TCPIP Default keep alive question

Vic

The best list to use for questions concerning the Communications Server
IP
component (even the Communications Server SNA component given that
Enterprise Extender is so often the subject) is the IBMTCP-L list:

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-

Your precise answer is at the end of the post.

If there were such an API, it would be one of the options of either the
getsockopt() call or the getibmsockopt() call and the equivalent in
languages
other than C.

You may be aware that the matter of TCP keep-alive is not quite as
straightforward as it might be. To be sure I cover the topic correctly
-
as best
I can - I'll quote what is said in the CS IP Configuration Reference
regarding
the value in which you are interested, the one that shows up in the
NETSTAT
CONFIG output as DefaultKeepALive specified by the PROFILE TCPCONFIG
statement INTERVAL parameter:

quote

INTERVAL default_keepalive_interval

The default TCP keepalive interval for applications that enable the
SO_KEEPALIVE socket option and do not override the interval using the
TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option. The range is 0 - 35 791 minutes, and the
default is 120. A value of 0 disables the keepalive function, so that
sockets
for which SO_KEEPALIVE is specified do not perform TCP keepalive. In
this
case, sockets specifying a specific interval using TCP_KEEPALIVE
continue to
send keepalive probes.

TCP keepalive probes end TCP connections after a period of inactivity.
TCP
keepalive is disabled by default for a connection, but can be enabled
by

issuing the SO_KEEPALIVE or TCP_KEEPALIVE socket options. The
TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option enables the application to specify the
keepalive
probe interval, while the SO_KEEPALIVE socket option uses
default_keepalive_interval as the interval.

After the interval has expired, TCP sends a single keepalive probe to
the peer.
If the TCP_KEEPALIVE socket option is not used to specify the probe
interval,
a total of ten probes are then sent at 75-second intervals if no
response is
received from the 

Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-02 Thread Ron Wells
ok--understand what your saying but how does that translate to the msg??
N 0004000 XA91 09153 10:46:14.89 JOB13668 
/\  how is this related to the code ??
or
N 280 XA91 09153 10:46:15.16 STC06759
/\ 


From:
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To:
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Date:
06/01/2009 04:18 PM
Subject:
Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes
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They are described in the introduction part of any volume of System 
Messages 
under Messages sent to hardcopy...:  First 28 route codes.

Bob

Ron Wells wrote:
 Guess I was too quick...
 The beginning of the SYSLOG has 
 NR000  XA91 09152 15:10:44.93 STC06632 0080  IST097I VARY 
 ACCEPTED
 /\ /\  This is the Prefix it talks about 
 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ these are the codes from what I am 
 reading
  But what is the 7digits ?
 000filer ?? 

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-06-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
It looks like you are using the IBM Tools and Toys port of InfoZip?

Just a guess, but it was built by IBM without the C library _LARGE_FILES
feature macro.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Vikesh Bhoola vbho...@sars.gov.za wrote:

 Hi there listers,
 I've searched the archives of previous posts on the subject in the hope
 someone has experienced the same problem.
 However I only managed few statements that perhaps indicate that INFOZIP
 has a 2Gb limit.

 The file we need to zip actually has: 15,694,524,498 Bytes
 The INFOZIP ZIP JCL completes with RC=0 and the following info :

 Translating to ASCII...

  adding: /yy/zzz/ONCEOFF1.A01 (in=2821109409) (out=1028850252)
 (deflate
 total bytes=2,821,109,409  compressed=1,028,850,252 - 64% savings


 The INFOZIP job doesn't give any error message indicating that it
 couldn't manage zipping the 14.6Gb file.

 1. Is it correct that INFOZIP has a 2Gb limit which prevents this.
 Should the job not have given an error message? Does anyone have a
 work-around for the 2Gb limit in INFOZIP ?

 2. Is there anyway to avoid the file xxx.yy.zzz.ONCEOFF1.A01 being
 stored in the ZIP file as /yy/zzz/ONCEOFF1.A01

 We are running z/OS 1.9 
 Copyright (C) 1990-1999 Info-ZIP
  Type 'zip -L' for software license.
  Zip 2.3 (November 29th 1999).

 Your advice on the above issues is most appreciated.

 Kind Regards,
 Vikesh
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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-06-02 Thread Arthur T.
On 2 Jun 2009 07:59:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main 
(Message-ID:e9b711ddd327e345bd0e8d20960bc9880ac51...@ptabrmsg02.sars.gov.za) 
vbho...@sars.gov.za (Vikesh Bhoola) wrote:


I've searched the archives of previous posts on the 
subject in the hope
someone has experienced the same problem. However I only 
managed few statements that perhaps indicate that INFOZIP

has a 2Gb limit.

The file we need to zip actually has: 15,694,524,498 
Bytes


GIYF. http://www.info-zip.org/FAQ.html#limits says 
(slightly edited by me):


uncompressed size of a single file - 4 GB - This is also 
not a hard limit, in that the deflate algorithm used in all 
recent releases has its own end of stream marker. Some 
file systems and/or C libraries may not support files this 
big, however...


Also, to report bugs: 
http://www.info-zip.org/board/board.pl



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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-02 Thread Ken Porowski
 It's a bitmap of routing codes
0004000 is    0100    first bit is routecode 1
next is 2 etc. 
Translates to routecode 14

280 is 0010 1000     
Translates to routecodes 3 and 5

-Original Message-
Ron Wells

ok--understand what your saying but how does that translate to the msg??
N 0004000 XA91 09153 10:46:14.89 JOB13668 
/\  how is this related to the code ??
or
N 280 XA91 09153 10:46:15.16 STC06759
/\ 


From:
Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.com
To:
IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:
06/01/2009 04:18 PM
Subject:
Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes
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They are described in the introduction part of any volume of System
Messages under Messages sent to hardcopy...:  First 28 route codes.

Bob

Ron Wells wrote:
 Guess I was too quick...
 The beginning of the SYSLOG has 
 NR000  XA91 09152 15:10:44.93 STC06632 0080  IST097I VARY 
 ACCEPTED
 /\ /\  This is the Prefix it talks about
 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ these are the codes from what I am
 reading
  But what is the 7digits ?
 000filer ?? 

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RXSTOR64 (was Re: Java V5 s0c4)

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:08:49 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
wrote:

On Thu, 28 May 2009 11:55:03 -0500, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

Agreed.   This is the most likely problem (MEMLIMIT).

If you run HelloWorld from the JZOS batch launcher with LOGLVL=+D, the
JZOS batch JVM launcher will display memory limits from the LDA to confirm
your actual available storage.   Under USS using the java launcher, you may
want to try something like Mark Zeldon's RXSTOR64 exec under USS:


That's Zelden with an e ...   :-)  (everyone seems to spell it that way)


Or REXXSTOR is probably simpler and will just list the memory limits
for your task.

Speaking of RXSTOR64 I've just added in HVCOMMON (64-bit common)
displays on an ASID level and system level totals.   The system and control
blocks tell me 5M is allocated but I can't attribute it to any ASID. The new
z/OS 1.10 RMF III display shows the same thing.

If anyone knows they have some HVCOMMON in use and wants to test an
updated version of RXSTOR64 for me, please email me off-list.  Otherwise
I should have the update out on my web site soon regardless.  I'm also
adding large memory displays (large pages), another thing I can't test yet.


Well, no one emailed me but the updated version is on my web site.  If
anyone has any 64-bit common usage and wants to test / verify the
output of RXSTOR64 for me, I would appreciate it.   Ditto for large memory
objects (large page support - z/OS 1.9  above). 

Regards,

Mark
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Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-02 Thread John Au
Chris,

Thanks for confirming the compatibility of Supersession and APPN.  Is it
possible to get contact information for your customer that successfully
set this up?  I would like to get our VTAM systems programmer to work
with your customer if possible.  I passed the information you provided
in setting up APPN/EE to him and he was able to get APPN working, but
now he is struggling with CL/Supersession.  Any help you can provide
would be most appreciated.

Regards,

John Au



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John

The customer with which I work from time to time uses Supersession. It
has 
continued to work without any difficulties while we changed the
underlying 
SNA architecture from subarea (cross-domain) to APPN without any 
difficulties whatsoever.

Do you have any specific concerns?

Incidentally, a systems programmer there has even researched using VTAM 
generic resources with Supersession with success. We hope to put that
into 
production in the near future all in support of the general objective of

introducing redundancy in support of continuous availability.

It's not down to luck but understanding and planning!

Chris Mason

On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:21:05 -0500, John Au john...@paccar.com wrote:

We are trying to get CL/Supersession to work with APPN and not using
the
VTAM Cross Domain facilities.  We would like to phase out our Front end
processor (3745).  Has anyone had any luck doing this?

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ICSF pin mailer printing

2009-06-02 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Anyone out there use ICSF (Integrated Cryptographic Service Facility) for 
encryption between self and Visa/Mastercard/ATMs?  I'm specifically curious 
about how PIN mailer processing is done.  (If it is done!)  We currently use 
Thales Host Security Modules.  When a new card is ordered a random PIN is 
generated.  We have a printer physically attached to the HSM which is used 
to print a mailer that contains the customer's PIN.  The only place the PIN is 
in clear text is on the serial cable that connects the printer to the HSM.

I can't see anywhere that ICSF supports this type of thing; thus the question.

Thanks!
Frank

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Global mirroring

2009-06-02 Thread Michael Saraco
The question I have is. Can I use Global mirroring to copy from site A to Site 
B 
and also at the same time copy from site A to site C? Or do you have to go 
from site A to B then from site B to site C?

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Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes

2009-06-02 Thread Ron Wells
Ken

Thanks... a kick in the head but I got it ...




From:
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To:
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Date:
06/02/2009 11:03 AM
Subject:
Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes
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 It's a bitmap of routing codes
0004000 is    0100    first bit is routecode 1
next is 2 etc. 
Translates to routecode 14

280 is 0010 1000     
Translates to routecodes 3 and 5

-Original Message-
Ron Wells

ok--understand what your saying but how does that translate to the msg??
N 0004000 XA91 09153 10:46:14.89 JOB13668 
/\  how is this related to the code ??
or
N 280 XA91 09153 10:46:15.16 STC06759
/\ 


From:
Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.com
To:
IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:
06/01/2009 04:18 PM
Subject:
Re: SYSLOG-Routing codes
Sent by:
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They are described in the introduction part of any volume of System
Messages under Messages sent to hardcopy...:  First 28 route codes.

Bob

Ron Wells wrote:
 Guess I was too quick...
 The beginning of the SYSLOG has 
 NR000  XA91 09152 15:10:44.93 STC06632 0080  IST097I VARY 
 ACCEPTED
 /\ /\  This is the Prefix it talks about
 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ these are the codes from what I am
 reading
  But what is the 7digits ?
 000filer ?? 

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Re: ICSF pin mailer printing

2009-06-02 Thread Hal Merritt
A google of The Thales Host Security Modules solution appears to be software 
that runs under Windows.

ICSF is a hardware and software API feature of z/os. 

  


  

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Frank Swarbrick
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: ICSF pin mailer printing

Anyone out there use ICSF (Integrated Cryptographic Service Facility) for 
encryption between self and Visa/Mastercard/ATMs?  I'm specifically curious 
about how PIN mailer processing is done.  (If it is done!)  We currently use 
Thales Host Security Modules.  When a new card is ordered a random PIN is 
generated.  We have a printer physically attached to the HSM which is used 
to print a mailer that contains the customer's PIN.  The only place the PIN is 
in clear text is on the serial cable that connects the printer to the HSM.

I can't see anywhere that ICSF supports this type of thing; thus the question.

Thanks!
Frank

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SSL certificate renewal

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Pace
Trying to follow the directions in the RACF manual to renew a self-signed
certificate that expired.

A display for ID TN3270

Label:TnServerCert
Certificate ID:2Qbj1fPy9/DjleKFmaWFmcOFmaNA
Status:TRUST
Start Date:2008/05/30 00:00:00
End Date:  2009/05/30 23:59:59
Serial Number:00
Issuer's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
Subject's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
Private Key Type:Non-ICSF
Private Key Size:1024
Ring Associations:
Ring Owner:TN3270
Ring:TNRING

So I see it exists and it's expired.
Next create a certificate request based on the old certificate.
*racdcert id(TN3270) genreq(label('TnServerCert')) dsn('ibmuser.cert.req')*
This executes and creates the IBMUSER.CERT.REQ file.

Then renew and replace the certficate.
*racdcert id(TN3270) gencert('ibmuser.cert.req')
signwith(label('TnServerCert'))
*
*IRRD107I No matching certificate was found for this user.*

I can't figure out why it says this certificate is not found, when I clearly
displayed it earlier.

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Re: SSL certificate renewal

2009-06-02 Thread Richard Peurifoy

Mark Pace wrote:

Trying to follow the directions in the RACF manual to renew a self-signed
certificate that expired.

A display for ID TN3270

Label:TnServerCert
Certificate ID:2Qbj1fPy9/DjleKFmaWFmcOFmaNA
Status:TRUST
Start Date:2008/05/30 00:00:00
End Date:  2009/05/30 23:59:59
Serial Number:00
Issuer's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
Subject's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
Private Key Type:Non-ICSF
Private Key Size:1024
Ring Associations:
Ring Owner:TN3270
Ring:TNRING

So I see it exists and it's expired.
Next create a certificate request based on the old certificate.
*racdcert id(TN3270) genreq(label('TnServerCert')) dsn('ibmuser.cert.req')*
This executes and creates the IBMUSER.CERT.REQ file.

Then renew and replace the certficate.
*racdcert id(TN3270) gencert('ibmuser.cert.req')
signwith(label('TnServerCert'))
*
*IRRD107I No matching certificate was found for this user.*

I can't figure out why it says this certificate is not found, when I clearly
displayed it earlier.



I think you need signwith(id(TN3270) label('TnServerCert')),
however, I have never tried signing a cert with itself, so I
don't know if this works.

Do others have a copy of this cert on their TN3270 clients,
or do they just accept a self-signed cert?

If they just accept the self-signed cert, just create a new
one.

Alternatively, you could create a signing cert with a long
End Date and use that to sign your cert. If the clients have
a copy of your cert, just give them a copy of your signig
cert to use as the CA for your TN3270 cert.

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Re: SSL certificate renewal

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Pace
Yes - all my users receive the certificate, and that is why I had hoped to
renew it with the same key, so I would not have to send out a new cert to
all the users.  It's looking more like I will have to generate a new
certificate and send it out.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Richard Peurifoy r-peuri...@neo.tamu.eduwrote:

 Mark Pace wrote:

 Trying to follow the directions in the RACF manual to renew a self-signed
 certificate that expired.

 A display for ID TN3270

 Label:TnServerCert
 Certificate ID:2Qbj1fPy9/DjleKFmaWFmcOFmaNA
 Status:TRUST
 Start Date:2008/05/30 00:00:00
 End Date:  2009/05/30 23:59:59
 Serial Number:00
 Issuer's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
 Subject's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
 Private Key Type:Non-ICSF
 Private Key Size:1024
 Ring Associations:
 Ring Owner:TN3270
 Ring:TNRING

 So I see it exists and it's expired.
 Next create a certificate request based on the old certificate.
 *racdcert id(TN3270) genreq(label('TnServerCert'))
 dsn('ibmuser.cert.req')*
 This executes and creates the IBMUSER.CERT.REQ file.

 Then renew and replace the certficate.
 *racdcert id(TN3270) gencert('ibmuser.cert.req')
 signwith(label('TnServerCert'))
 *
 *IRRD107I No matching certificate was found for this user.*

 I can't figure out why it says this certificate is not found, when I
 clearly
 displayed it earlier.


 I think you need signwith(id(TN3270) label('TnServerCert')),
 however, I have never tried signing a cert with itself, so I
 don't know if this works.

 Do others have a copy of this cert on their TN3270 clients,
 or do they just accept a self-signed cert?

 If they just accept the self-signed cert, just create a new
 one.

 Alternatively, you could create a signing cert with a long
 End Date and use that to sign your cert. If the clients have
 a copy of your cert, just give them a copy of your signig
 cert to use as the CA for your TN3270 cert.

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Re: SSL certificate renewal

2009-06-02 Thread Michael Saraco
I have never tried it with an expired cert but have you tried to change 
the end date in the expired cert yet to see if that fixes your problem. 
When creating certs I always change the expire date to something way out 
there so I do not have problems. 


Michael Saraco
Systems Consultant
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Cell 507-525-0530



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Date:
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Subject:
Re: SSL certificate renewal
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Yes - all my users receive the certificate, and that is why I had hoped to
renew it with the same key, so I would not have to send out a new cert to
all the users.  It's looking more like I will have to generate a new
certificate and send it out.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Richard Peurifoy 
r-peuri...@neo.tamu.eduwrote:

 Mark Pace wrote:

 Trying to follow the directions in the RACF manual to renew a 
self-signed
 certificate that expired.

 A display for ID TN3270

 Label:TnServerCert
 Certificate ID:2Qbj1fPy9/DjleKFmaWFmcOFmaNA
 Status:TRUST
 Start Date:2008/05/30 00:00:00
 End Date:  2009/05/30 23:59:59
 Serial Number:00
 Issuer's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
 Subject's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
 Private Key Type:Non-ICSF
 Private Key Size:1024
 Ring Associations:
 Ring Owner:TN3270
 Ring:TNRING

 So I see it exists and it's expired.
 Next create a certificate request based on the old certificate.
 *racdcert id(TN3270) genreq(label('TnServerCert'))
 dsn('ibmuser.cert.req')*
 This executes and creates the IBMUSER.CERT.REQ file.

 Then renew and replace the certficate.
 *racdcert id(TN3270) gencert('ibmuser.cert.req')
 signwith(label('TnServerCert'))
 *
 *IRRD107I No matching certificate was found for this user.*

 I can't figure out why it says this certificate is not found, when I
 clearly
 displayed it earlier.


 I think you need signwith(id(TN3270) label('TnServerCert')),
 however, I have never tried signing a cert with itself, so I
 don't know if this works.

 Do others have a copy of this cert on their TN3270 clients,
 or do they just accept a self-signed cert?

 If they just accept the self-signed cert, just create a new
 one.

 Alternatively, you could create a signing cert with a long
 End Date and use that to sign your cert. If the clients have
 a copy of your cert, just give them a copy of your signig
 cert to use as the CA for your TN3270 cert.

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Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their tapes.

I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and uncataloged 
the file.

When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so that TMS 
should not have trashed it.
But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0 and back 
again.
The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000, then that 
field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be coded in the JCL 
each time the tape is used?

Dave O'Brien
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Re: SSL certificate renewal

2009-06-02 Thread Baraniecki, Ray
My somewhat limited experience on this subject is that you cannot new an 
expired certificate. Now that it's expired you must request a new certificate.

Thanks, 
 
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Mark Pace
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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SSL certificate renewal

I don't see how you would go about changing the end date.  I would assume
that is the purpose of renewing the certificate.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Michael Saraco 
michael.sar...@baer-consulting.com wrote:

 I have never tried it with an expired cert but have you tried to change
 the end date in the expired cert yet to see if that fixes your problem.
 When creating certs I always change the expire date to something way out
 there so I do not have problems.


 Michael Saraco
 Systems Consultant
 303-838-3374  x115
 Cell 507-525-0530



 From:
 Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com
 To:
 IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Date:
 06/02/2009 01:05 PM
 Subject:
 Re: SSL certificate renewal
 Sent by:
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 Yes - all my users receive the certificate, and that is why I had hoped to
 renew it with the same key, so I would not have to send out a new cert to
 all the users.  It's looking more like I will have to generate a new
 certificate and send it out.

 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Richard Peurifoy
 r-peuri...@neo.tamu.eduwrote:

  Mark Pace wrote:
 
  Trying to follow the directions in the RACF manual to renew a
 self-signed
  certificate that expired.
 
  A display for ID TN3270
 
  Label:TnServerCert
  Certificate ID:2Qbj1fPy9/DjleKFmaWFmcOFmaNA
  Status:TRUST
  Start Date:2008/05/30 00:00:00
  End Date:  2009/05/30 23:59:59
  Serial Number:00
  Issuer's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
  Subject's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
  Private Key Type:Non-ICSF
  Private Key Size:1024
  Ring Associations:
  Ring Owner:TN3270
  Ring:TNRING
 
  So I see it exists and it's expired.
  Next create a certificate request based on the old certificate.
  *racdcert id(TN3270) genreq(label('TnServerCert'))
  dsn('ibmuser.cert.req')*
  This executes and creates the IBMUSER.CERT.REQ file.
 
  Then renew and replace the certficate.
  *racdcert id(TN3270) gencert('ibmuser.cert.req')
  signwith(label('TnServerCert'))
  *
  *IRRD107I No matching certificate was found for this user.*
 
  I can't figure out why it says this certificate is not found, when I
  clearly
  displayed it earlier.
 
 
  I think you need signwith(id(TN3270) label('TnServerCert')),
  however, I have never tried signing a cert with itself, so I
  don't know if this works.
 
  Do others have a copy of this cert on their TN3270 clients,
  or do they just accept a self-signed cert?
 
  If they just accept the self-signed cert, just create a new
  one.
 
  Alternatively, you could create a signing cert with a long
  End Date and use that to sign your cert. If the clients have
  a copy of your cert, just give them a copy of your signig
  cert to use as the CA for your TN3270 cert.
 
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Re: SSL certificate renewal

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Pace
I don't see how you would go about changing the end date.  I would assume
that is the purpose of renewing the certificate.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Michael Saraco 
michael.sar...@baer-consulting.com wrote:

 I have never tried it with an expired cert but have you tried to change
 the end date in the expired cert yet to see if that fixes your problem.
 When creating certs I always change the expire date to something way out
 there so I do not have problems.


 Michael Saraco
 Systems Consultant
 303-838-3374  x115
 Cell 507-525-0530



 From:
 Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com
 To:
 IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Date:
 06/02/2009 01:05 PM
 Subject:
 Re: SSL certificate renewal
 Sent by:
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 Yes - all my users receive the certificate, and that is why I had hoped to
 renew it with the same key, so I would not have to send out a new cert to
 all the users.  It's looking more like I will have to generate a new
 certificate and send it out.

 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Richard Peurifoy
 r-peuri...@neo.tamu.eduwrote:

  Mark Pace wrote:
 
  Trying to follow the directions in the RACF manual to renew a
 self-signed
  certificate that expired.
 
  A display for ID TN3270
 
  Label:TnServerCert
  Certificate ID:2Qbj1fPy9/DjleKFmaWFmcOFmaNA
  Status:TRUST
  Start Date:2008/05/30 00:00:00
  End Date:  2009/05/30 23:59:59
  Serial Number:00
  Issuer's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
  Subject's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
  Private Key Type:Non-ICSF
  Private Key Size:1024
  Ring Associations:
  Ring Owner:TN3270
  Ring:TNRING
 
  So I see it exists and it's expired.
  Next create a certificate request based on the old certificate.
  *racdcert id(TN3270) genreq(label('TnServerCert'))
  dsn('ibmuser.cert.req')*
  This executes and creates the IBMUSER.CERT.REQ file.
 
  Then renew and replace the certficate.
  *racdcert id(TN3270) gencert('ibmuser.cert.req')
  signwith(label('TnServerCert'))
  *
  *IRRD107I No matching certificate was found for this user.*
 
  I can't figure out why it says this certificate is not found, when I
  clearly
  displayed it earlier.
 
 
  I think you need signwith(id(TN3270) label('TnServerCert')),
  however, I have never tried signing a cert with itself, so I
  don't know if this works.
 
  Do others have a copy of this cert on their TN3270 clients,
  or do they just accept a self-signed cert?
 
  If they just accept the self-signed cert, just create a new
  one.
 
  Alternatively, you could create a signing cert with a long
  End Date and use that to sign your cert. If the clients have
  a copy of your cert, just give them a copy of your signig
  cert to use as the CA for your TN3270 cert.
 
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HMC question on z9 (through listserver this time)

2009-06-02 Thread Neal Eckhardt
Ok, we just got a z9, and I'm browsing through the HMC stuff. I have
accessed the HMC application through my web browser so I can capture
some screen prints for updated documentation.

While playing around, I tried to IPL my test system remotely. I got
the message:

The target does not have service status, but disruptive task is in
service role.

This cryptic message doesn't tell me much. Is it possible to IPL
remotely or is that my problem?

Thanks,

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?  

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245 
How is TMOOPT00  coded?  

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY  
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY  
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED  



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914  
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187 

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142   
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187  

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF   
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187 
   
2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF   
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142   
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187 

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset 

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 days 
later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



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 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

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Re: SSL certificate renewal

2009-06-02 Thread Michael Saraco
I know I created a cert saw it would expire in a year changed the end date 
and it is still working.


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From:
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To:
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Date:
06/02/2009 01:37 PM
Subject:
Re: SSL certificate renewal
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I don't see how you would go about changing the end date.  I would assume
that is the purpose of renewing the certificate.

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Michael Saraco 
michael.sar...@baer-consulting.com wrote:

 I have never tried it with an expired cert but have you tried to change
 the end date in the expired cert yet to see if that fixes your problem.
 When creating certs I always change the expire date to something way out
 there so I do not have problems.


 Michael Saraco
 Systems Consultant
 303-838-3374  x115
 Cell 507-525-0530



 From:
 Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com
 To:
 IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Date:
 06/02/2009 01:05 PM
 Subject:
 Re: SSL certificate renewal
 Sent by:
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 Yes - all my users receive the certificate, and that is why I had hoped 
to
 renew it with the same key, so I would not have to send out a new cert 
to
 all the users.  It's looking more like I will have to generate a new
 certificate and send it out.

 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Richard Peurifoy
 r-peuri...@neo.tamu.eduwrote:

  Mark Pace wrote:
 
  Trying to follow the directions in the RACF manual to renew a
 self-signed
  certificate that expired.
 
  A display for ID TN3270
 
  Label:TnServerCert
  Certificate ID:2Qbj1fPy9/DjleKFmaWFmcOFmaNA
  Status:TRUST
  Start Date:2008/05/30 00:00:00
  End Date:  2009/05/30 23:59:59
  Serial Number:00
  Issuer's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
  Subject's Name:CN=zos19.OU=IT.O=Mainline.C=US
  Private Key Type:Non-ICSF
  Private Key Size:1024
  Ring Associations:
  Ring Owner:TN3270
  Ring:TNRING
 
  So I see it exists and it's expired.
  Next create a certificate request based on the old certificate.
  *racdcert id(TN3270) genreq(label('TnServerCert'))
  dsn('ibmuser.cert.req')*
  This executes and creates the IBMUSER.CERT.REQ file.
 
  Then renew and replace the certficate.
  *racdcert id(TN3270) gencert('ibmuser.cert.req')
  signwith(label('TnServerCert'))
  *
  *IRRD107I No matching certificate was found for this user.*
 
  I can't figure out why it says this certificate is not found, when I
  clearly
  displayed it earlier.
 
 
  I think you need signwith(id(TN3270) label('TnServerCert')),
  however, I have never tried signing a cert with itself, so I
  don't know if this works.
 
  Do others have a copy of this cert on their TN3270 clients,
  or do they just accept a self-signed cert?
 
  If they just accept the self-signed cert, just create a new
  one.
 
  Alternatively, you could create a signing cert with a long
  End Date and use that to sign your cert. If the clients have
  a copy of your cert, just give them a copy of your signig
  cert to use as the CA for your TN3270 cert.
 
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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette 
Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 days 
later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



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 Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

 Dave O'Brien
 NIH Contractor

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Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:23:52 -0700, John Au john...@paccar.com 
wrote:

...  he was able to get APPN working, but
now he is struggling with CL/Supersession.  Any help you can provide
would be most appreciated.
...

I haven't been in a shop with Supersession for over 5 years but I had
no trouble getting it to work over APPN connections in my previous
shop, and we have TPX (another session manager) working over
APPN at my current shop.   Do you have other cross domain 
sessions working over APPN?  I can think of no reason there would
be a problem with only Supersession.

Pat O'Keefe 

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Re: HMC question on z9 (through listserver this time)

2009-06-02 Thread Scott Rowe
Yes, it is possible to IPL remotely, sounds like the ID you are logged onto is 
defined with a SERVICE role.

 Neal Eckhardt neckha...@penntraffic.com 6/2/2009 3:18 PM 
Ok, we just got a z9, and I'm browsing through the HMC stuff. I have
accessed the HMC application through my web browser so I can capture
some screen prints for updated documentation.

While playing around, I tried to IPL my test system remotely. I got
the message:

The target does not have service status, but disruptive task is in
service role.

This cryptic message doesn't tell me much. Is it possible to IPL
remotely or is that my problem?

Thanks,

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Lizzette,

Sorry, I mis-typed. There are no CA1 exits in use.

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette 
Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 days 
later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer
or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any
other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or
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 Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

 Dave O'Brien
 NIH Contractor

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CA-FAVER and SMS

2009-06-02 Thread Lester, Bob
Hi All,

 

   I'm wondering if anyone has run into this.

 

   We back up VSAM files (to DISK) using CA-FAVER 4.3 SP1.  The output
disk files get assigned a data class that is extended format
(non-compressed).  The block size being set for the output file is
27998, which appears to be bad for Extended format since there are
32bytes/block overhead for SMS.  The current JCL has no DCB information
for the output.  I've tries DCB=BLKSIZE=0, but still get 27998.  I can
change the JCL to DCB=BLKSIZE=27966, but I'm wondering if there's any
other way.

 

   I've been to the CA website, but it appears that FAVER is stabilized.
Any pointers are appreciated.

 

Thanks!

Bob Lester 
Systems  Storage 
Oppenheimerfunds 
303.768.3504 
bles...@oppenheimerfunds.com 

 


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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
I forgot one more field.  The OCTLG.  What is that set to.

And that job that uses DISP=OLD has EXPDT=99000 coded?  Amazing.

Lizette



Lizzette,

Sorry, I mis-typed. There are no CA1 exits in use.



Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 
EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 
EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 
days later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer
or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any
other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or
manufactured, since the beginning of time.


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

 Dave O'Brien
 NIH Contractor


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Re: HMC question on z9 (through listserver this time)

2009-06-02 Thread Hal Merritt
There are some variables (such as how you have the HMC set up), but the only 
thing I've found that you cannot do remotely is configure HMC security and go 
into service mode (CE mode). 

Pretty powerful tool.   

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Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: HMC question on z9 (through listserver this time)

Ok, we just got a z9, and I'm browsing through the HMC stuff. I have
accessed the HMC application through my web browser so I can capture
some screen prints for updated documentation.

While playing around, I tried to IPL my test system remotely. I got
the message:

The target does not have service status, but disruptive task is in
service role.

This cryptic message doesn't tell me much. Is it possible to IPL
remotely or is that my problem?

Thanks,

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
OCTLG   YES

DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG), with EXPDT=99000

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Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

I forgot one more field.  The OCTLG.  What is that set to.

And that job that uses DISP=OLD has EXPDT=99000 coded?  Amazing.

Lizette



Lizzette,

Sorry, I mis-typed. There are no CA1 exits in use.



Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in the 
CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 
EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 
EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 
days later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



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 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the tape is used?

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Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-02 Thread John Au
Pat,

Do you remember if you had to convert all the APPLIDs to use APPC=YES?
It appears when we knocked down the Cross Domains and attempt using
APPN; VTAM is searching through ISTAPNCP first then the Cross Domain
definitions for the APPLIDs.  Since we didn't define anything in
ISTAPNCP it can't locate the APPLID.  We're not exactly sure if
definitions are dynamically built in ISTAPNCP or whether we have to
manually define them.  Any help in pointing us in the right direction
would be appreciated.

P.S.  Mark Yuhas says HI!

Regards,

John Au


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Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:30 PM
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Subject: Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:23:52 -0700, John Au john...@paccar.com 
wrote:

...  he was able to get APPN working, but
now he is struggling with CL/Supersession.  Any help you can provide
would be most appreciated.
...

I haven't been in a shop with Supersession for over 5 years but I had
no trouble getting it to work over APPN connections in my previous
shop, and we have TPX (another session manager) working over
APPN at my current shop.   Do you have other cross domain 
sessions working over APPN?  I can think of no reason there would
be a problem with only Supersession.

Pat O'Keefe 

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Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:43:15 -0500, Chris Mason 
chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote:

...
Incidentally, a systems programmer there has even researched 
using VTAM generic resources with Supersession with success. 
We hope to put that into production in the near future all in support 
of the general objective of introducing redundancy in support of 
continuous availability.
...

I'm glad to hear that .  6 or 7 years ago my last shop approached
Candle about a GR (or other high availability) configuration for
Supersession.  They claimed we were the first shop to ask for it
(which I found hard to believe).   We spent a few weeks working 
together on a high level design but the project fell apart over 
financial considerations.   (Candle wanted what seemed like an
extraordinary amount of money for something they could sell to 
other customers.) 

I wonder if the current design looks anything like what we were
working on.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:53:06 -0700, John Au john...@paccar.com 
wrote:

...
Do you remember if you had to convert all the APPLIDs to use 
APPC=YES?

Yes I do (remember) , and know I didn't (have to make the change).
No LU definition changes were needed.  The only thing beyond 
the actual connectivity-related definitions was the addition of a 
default cross-domain COS table.

Don't confuse APPN and APPC.   APPC is LU_6.2 application support
stuff.  (That statement will probably cause those in the know to 
choke.)  It is possible that Supersession now uses LU_6.2 sessions
between multiple copies of itself and may require APPC=YES for that,
but that has nothing to do with your migration to APPN. 

It appears when we knocked down the Cross Domains and 
attempt using APPN; VTAM is searching through ISTAPNCP first 
then the Cross Domain definitions for the APPLIDs.  Since we 
didn't define anything in ISTAPNCP it can't locate the APPLID.  
We're not exactly sure if definitions are dynamically built in 
ISTAPNCP or whether we have to manually define them.  Any help 
in pointing us in the right direction would be appreciated.

I don't pretend to keep all the details of that straight.  
Options SOPRDER, SSCPORD,  SSEARCH, BNDYN (if you are using 
Border Node functions), and probably some others I've forgotten.

It's complicated during migration.  It gets a lot simpler once you're
all APPN.

Since PACCAR belongs to SHARE I'd *strongly* recommend 
downloading Johnathan Harter's Searching In Mixed APPN/
Subarea Networks from just about any SHARE over the past
few years.  Look for other sessions of his, too.  He's had lots of
them relating to APPN.  

 
P.S.  Mark Yuhas says HI!
 
And HI back to Mark.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
David,

I might run the TMSAUDIT report on the volser and see what it says.  I do not 
know at this point why CA1 might have changed the EXPDT from 99000 to 0 
unless something told it to (TMSCLEAN, or TMSCRATCH) 

See if the AUDIT shows anything.

VOLSER=?? 
TYPE=0,1,2,3,4 
FORMAT=LONG

Lizette



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From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
Sent: Jun 2, 2009 3:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

OCTLG   YES

DISP=(OLD,PASS,CATLG), with EXPDT=99000

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

I forgot one more field.  The OCTLG.  What is that set to.

And that job that uses DISP=OLD has EXPDT=99000 coded?  Amazing.

Lizette



Lizzette,

Sorry, I mis-typed. There are no CA1 exits in use.



Hi Lizzette,

Thanks for chiming in.

Yes, RGWOPMSC has Expdt=99000
No, CA1 exits are in use.

MG3480  YES
SCRTCH  NO
SCRCAT  YES

Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

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Lizette Koehler [stars...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:22 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

Does this job RGWOPMSC have EXPDT coded in the JCL?  Is there something in 
the CA1 exit to change EXPDT in certain conditions?

Do you use the following exits:  CL05228  CL05232  CL05245
How is TMOOPT00  coded?

MG3480  YES   ISSUE NOT SCRATCH MSGS TO 3480 DISPLAY
SCRTCH  NOTMSCLEAN SCRATCH EXTERNAL SECURITY
SCRCAT  YES   SCRATCH EVEN IF CATALOG'ED



Lizette




  Yes I recalled the default 5 day default retention as well.

Here are the DAF records for the file:
2009142 20.18.01.43 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.16.48.80 CRTDT=09135 
EXPDT=99000
DISP=Old BUFNO=2 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 EXCP=3914
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3913 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.18.36.15 4090 RGWOPMSC
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT2 OPE=20.18.24.31 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=Old DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1 
EXCP=42
LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009142 20.36.54.65 4090 RGWOPDOF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=M4OLD OPE=20.36.41.28 CRTDT=09142 
EXPDT=0
DISP=OldShr BUFNO=5 DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=3916 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009144 22.00.24.19 4090 RGWOPMHF
SDC=28 NUC=1 SUC=24 VOL=522187 DD=SYSUT1 OPE=22.00.14.36 CRTDT=09142
EXPDT=0 DISP=OldShr DSORG=PS RECFM=VB BLKSIZE=32760 LRECL=32420 NVOL=1
EXCP=83 LTYP=SL FLSQ=1 DEBVL=1 DCBBL=3915 DSSNO=522187

2009149 00.05.19.80 4090 STGTMSSC
SUB=Delete FNC=Uncatalog CAT=SYSICF.USERCAT.UCAT05 TYP=NonVSAM_Dataset

Here is the alleged JCL that referenced the file before it went scratch 5 
days later.
//COPY.SYSUT1 DD DSN=APA3JLC.PUBLIC.MASTER,DISP=SHR,
// UNIT=ETAPE

Not sure why they specify UNIT=ETAPE for a cataloged input file. But they 
claim to have been doing this for years.
And before I forget, we are at Zos 1.9 with Jes2. File is not SMS managed.

Something else I find strange is the DISP=Oldshr in jobs RGWOPDOF and 
RGWOPMHF. I checked the JCL and DISP=SHR is specified.

e.

IIRC 5 days is the default hold before scratch for a catalog controlled
tape in order to prevent a catalog issue causing tapes to go scratch.
Look at catalog records (60-69) and see if the data set was uncataloged
prior to that date.



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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:26 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape
 file.

 User complained the other day that we had destroyed one of their
tapes.

 I ran a DAF report and sure enough TMS had scratched the tape and
 uncataloged the file.

 When the tape was originally created it was under catalog control so
 that TMS should not have trashed it.
 But as I look at the DAFRPT I see the EXPDT change from 99000 to 0
 and back again.
 The last entry 5 days before TMS scratched showed Expdt=0.
 I would have thought that once a tape was created with Expdt=99000,
 then that field should have remained 99000. Or does 99000 have to be
 coded in the JCL each time the 

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-02 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
IND$FILE works with real hard-wired 3270s, not 3270 emulators??

When I excluded anything modern, that included PCs.

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Subject: Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

Schwarz, Barry A pisze:
 I guess you guys never have to support a customer whose system doesn't
 even include TCP/IP, let alone anything modern.

I used to work in several shops where things were set up in constrast 
with common sense. In verey case simple things like PTF file upload can 
take much, much more time more than they should.

In case of lack of TCP/IP connection or (more frequent) ftp you still 
have IND$FILE, so it is not to bad.

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Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
IND$FILE works with real hard-wired 3270s, not 3270 emulators??

I don't think so!
Too bad people can be pulled, and dragged, kicking and screaming into the 
1990's.
FTP is not unsafe.
Accessing the data is (potentially).
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Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry for responding to my own post.
I meant HAVE TO BE, rather than CAN.

IND$FILE works with real hard-wired 3270s, not 3270 emulators??

I don't think so!
Too bad people can be pulled, and dragged,
 -» HAVE TO BE
 kicking and screaming into the 1990's.
FTP is not unsafe.
Accessing the data is (potentially).

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FTP Question

2009-06-02 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS V1R9. When transferring a file from the MF to the Unix
Server the x'6a' is being translated to a ASCII x'1a'.  We need this to
be translated to an x'7c'. Does IBM have a translate table that does
this and if not how do I generate a translate table ?
 
Any help would be appreciated. 
 
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Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-02 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - 
From: Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:49 PM
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IND$FILE works with real hard-wired 3270s, not 3270 emulators??

When I excluded anything modern, that included PCs.



Barry,

IND$FILE works on a 3270.  Since TCP/IP has been supported since OS/390, are 
you really running ESA?  5.2, 4.2, 3.1.3?  XA?  MVS/370?  Yikes.


Regards,
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Re: FTP Question

2009-06-02 Thread Hal Merritt
They are called 'code pages'. 


HTH and good luck. 

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Subject: FTP Question

We are z/OS V1R9. When transferring a file from the MF to the Unix
Server the x'6a' is being translated to a ASCII x'1a'.  We need this to
be translated to an x'7c'. Does IBM have a translate table that does
this and if not how do I generate a translate table ?
 
Any help would be appreciated. 
 
Thank You


   
   
 
   
   
  
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Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-02 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/2/2009 4:37:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
pinnc...@rochester.rr.com writes:

IND$FILE works on a 3270.
 

What are you talking about? 3270/AT maybe. Last good  manual on subject. 
After we converted to some site wide 3270 emulator IND$FILE  was the default 
transfer mechanism. Later FTP became an option and several  applications 
managed to destroy their custom AFP forms and fonts libraries on  the host in 
less than a weekend before we could get it sorted  out. 


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Re: Question concerning pre-mature uncatalog/delete of a tape file.

2009-06-02 Thread John Kelly
Hi Dave,

I'm sure that you noticed but the CRTDT changed with RGWOPMSC @ 2009142 
20.18.36.15. It went from 
CRTDT=09135 EXPDT=99000 at 20.18.01.43 to CRTDT=09142 EXPDT=0 at 
20.18.36.15. And it looks like the same job? I don't know how to read DAF 
but could a step in the job (SYSUT2) opened the tape for output and 
changed TMS?
Just a thought 

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)

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Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-02 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
It doesn't matter how old the TCP/IP software is.  Even on OS/390 1.4
(which is what the customer runs), if you don't have an OSA or a 3172,
you are probably not going to run TCP/IP.

Just out of curiosity, where does IND$FILE get or put files that are
being transferred.  I don't remember ever having any kind of file system
on a 3270.

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IND$FILE works on a 3270.  Since TCP/IP has been supported since OS/390,
are 
you really running ESA?  5.2, 4.2, 3.1.3?  XA?  MVS/370?  Yikes.

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Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-02 Thread P S
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Schwarz, Barry A
barry.a.schw...@boeing.com wrote:
 Just out of curiosity, where does IND$FILE get or put files that are
 being transferred.  I don't remember ever having any kind of file system
 on a 3270.

It transfers them fine, just doesn't store the result. Exercises the
cables, gets the rust out.

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Re: HMC question on z9 (through listserver this time)

2009-06-02 Thread Roger Lowe
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:18:26 -0400, Neal Eckhardt neckha...@penntraffic.com
wrote:

Ok, we just got a z9, and I'm browsing through the HMC stuff. I have
accessed the HMC application through my web browser so I can capture
some screen prints for updated documentation.

While playing around, I tried to IPL my test system remotely. I got
the message:

The target does not have service status, but disruptive task is in
service role.

This cryptic message doesn't tell me much. Is it possible to IPL
remotely or is that my problem?

Neal,
   Do you have a firewall in place? If so, you need to allow
communication between the HMC and SE. There are a number of ports that are
used by a remote HMC for communications and they are described in Appendix C
of the Hardware  Management Console Operations Guide (SC28-6873)
.
Hope this helps
.
Roger

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Re: HMC question on z9 (through listserver this time)

2009-06-02 Thread Fermat Ma
Sounds like you were about to execute some operation that requires 'Service
Mode' enabled first.
If you use the 'SYSPROG' id, it is not the CE account id.
You need a CE account to enable 'Service Mode' first.
Fermat
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Roger Lowe roger_l...@bigpond.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:18:26 -0400, Neal Eckhardt 
 neckha...@penntraffic.com
 wrote:

 Ok, we just got a z9, and I'm browsing through the HMC stuff. I have
 accessed the HMC application through my web browser so I can capture
 some screen prints for updated documentation.
 
 While playing around, I tried to IPL my test system remotely. I got
 the message:
 
 The target does not have service status, but disruptive task is in
 service role.
 
 This cryptic message doesn't tell me much. Is it possible to IPL
 remotely or is that my problem?
 
 Neal,
   Do you have a firewall in place? If so, you need to allow
 communication between the HMC and SE. There are a number of ports that are
 used by a remote HMC for communications and they are described in Appendix
 C
 of the Hardware  Management Console Operations Guide (SC28-6873)
 .
 Hope this helps
 .
 Roger

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Would an IODF configuration work for diferent devices ?

2009-06-02 Thread Cwi Jeret
Hello,
My question is :

Given the following working configuration -

++
|  LPAR  A  |   LPAR  B |
+--++--++---+
 |chpid 23| |chpid 35|
+---++ +-+-+
  ||
  ||
  ||
+---+   +--+ 
|CU 100 CUAD 1 ||CU 300 CUAD 1 |  
+---+---+   +---+--+ 
|| 
|| 
|  +---+ 
|  |   
+---+
|3390 addr range|
| 1300 - 13FF|
+---+

Now I want to let LPAR B work with the same IODF-IOCDS configuration
on an seperate Disk device with the same addresses !
( Chpid and CU 300 CUAD 1  -  left as is ) like the following :


+---+
|  LPAR  A |  LPAR  B |
+--++--++--+
 |chpid 23| |chpid 35|
 +---+---+ +---+---+
   |  |
   |  |
   |  |
+---+   +---+
|CU 100 CUAD 1 ||CU 300 CUAD 1 |
+---+---+   +---+--+
  |  | 
  |  | 
+---+   +---+
|3390 addr range|   |3390 addr range|
| 1300 - 13FF|   | 1300 - 13FF |
+---+   +---+

Would this changed configuration work
with the same IODF-IOCDS  definitions ???

C. Jeret
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Would an IODF configuration work for diferent devices ?

2009-06-02 Thread Cwi Jeret
Hello,
My question is :

Given the following working configuration -

+---+
|  LPAR  A  |  LPAR  B  |
+--++--++---+
   |chpid 23|  |chpid 35|
   +---++  +---++
   |   |
   |   |
   |   |
+--+   +--+ 
|CU 100 CUAD 1 |   |CU 300 CUAD 1 |  
+---+--+   +---+--+ 
|  | 
|  | 
|  +---+ 
|  |   
+---+
|3390 addr range|
| 1300 - 13FF   |
+---+

Now I want to let LPAR B work with the same IODF-IOCDS configuration
on an seperate Disk device with the same addresses !
( Chpid and CU 300 CUAD 1  -  left as is ) like the following :


+---+
|  LPAR  A  |  LPAR  B  |
+--++--++---+
   |chpid 23|  |chpid 35|
   +---++  +---++
   |   |
   |   |
   |   |
+--+   +--+
|CU 100 CUAD 1 |   |CU 300 CUAD 1 |
+---+--+   +---+--+
|  | 
|  | 
+---+   +---+
|3390 addr range|   |3390 addr range|
| 1300 - 13FF   |   | 1300 - 13FF   |
+---+   +---+

Would this changed configuration work
with the same IODF-IOCDS  definitions ???

C. Jeret
Bank Hapoalim  T.A.


 

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Re: HMC question on z9 (through listserver this time)

2009-06-02 Thread Peter Bishop
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:18:26 -0400, Neal Eckhardt neckha...@penntraffic.com
wrote:

Ok, we just got a z9, and I'm browsing through the HMC stuff. I have
accessed the HMC application through my web browser so I can capture
some screen prints for updated documentation.

While playing around, I tried to IPL my test system remotely. I got
the message:

The target does not have service status, but disruptive task is in
service role.

This cryptic message doesn't tell me much. Is it possible to IPL
remotely or is that my problem?

Thanks,

--
Neal



Yes, you can certainly remotely IPL, we do this routinely.  

I suspect your system is set up to require a Service mode user to do this
though.  You need your ACSADMIN level user to either grant you the right to
IPL (best) or allow remote HMC access for Service mode users (not best, but
works).

best regards
Peter
Elected officials should wear uniforms like
NASCAR drivers. That way it would be easier
to identify their corporate sponsors.

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Re: FTP Question

2009-06-02 Thread Joel C Ewing
If you haven't customized the SBDATACONN parameter in the FTPDATA and 
FTSDATA configuration files, the default EBCDIC-ASCII conversion is 
FTP_STANDARD_TABLE, which for text uses a fixed translation table that 
pre-dates current code pages and uses 7-bit ASCII -- definitely not a 
one-to-one mapping, and a text file using all character codes on MVS is 
guaranteed data loss on round trip via FTP.


I would recommend overriding the SBDATACONN default in FTPDATA and 
FTSDATA with something like

SBDATACONN(IBM-1047,ISO8859-1)
or perhaps using IBM-037 if you prefer the IBM-037 bracket and logical 
not conventions to IBM-1047.  This gives a one-to-one translation, and 
a round trip via FTP can get you back to the original text file.


I don't have the code sets in front of me, so can't be sure these handle 
the specific character codes in question as you want, but unless you are 
wanting a non-conventional translation, the odds are much better when 
you are dealing with an 8-bit target code set.


You can test this out without changing current MVS FTP configuration by 
overriding your current MVS FTP SBDATACONN defaults:
If the transfer is initiated by a client on MVS, before the PUT/GET 
issue FTP command LOCSITE SBD=(IBM-1047,ISO8859-1)
If the transfer is initiated by a client on the UNIX system, before the 
PUT/GET issue the FTP command QUOTE SITE SBD=(IBM-1047,ISO8859-1)


I'm not sure about z/OS 1.9, but on some earlier versions of z/OS the 
functioning of this conversion may be dependent on first configuring the 
Unicode conversion services to load the appropriate conversion tables 
for code sets IBM-1047 and ISO8859-1.


I believe there are ways to totally replace the module that supplies the 
FTP_STANDARD_TABLE, but solutions based on built-in z/OS conversion 
support and standard code sets is a better approach.

JC Ewing

Mark Steely wrote:

We are z/OS V1R9. When transferring a file from the MF to the Unix
Server the x'6a' is being translated to a ASCII x'1a'.  We need this to
be translated to an x'7c'. Does IBM have a translate table that does
this and if not how do I generate a translate table ?

Any help would be appreciated. 


Thank You

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Re: INFOZIP 2Gb

2009-06-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
You can use the jar command -- provided with the no charge IBM SDK for
z/OS, Java Technology Edition -- to create Zip files. For example:?

jar cf myarchive.zip file1.seq file2.seq file3.seq

I think this works:

jar -?

for producing a list of options. You can try these commands from the OMVS
environment or from direct terminal connection to z/OS UNIX System
Services. You may need to specify the path to the jar command, depending on
how your path environment is set up.

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Re: Global mirroring

2009-06-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
Are you asking about a particular IBM solution: Global Mirror, z/OS Global
Mirror, or Geographically Dispersed Parallel Sysplex (GDPS) Global Mirror?
Or all three?

And when you say you want to copy from site A to sites B and C, may we
assume you are talking about copying the same data from site A to the other
sites? Or different data (part of site A to B, and another part of A to C)?

I think I understand why different might be useful, at least in rare cases.
(You might want to have split responsibility for DR in some cases --
aligned with LPARs, functional areas, or whatever. It's a little
strange/unusual perhaps, but that's OK.) If the same data, what is the
disaster recovery scenario you're trying to solve? If site A fails and B
recovers, then what is C for? (I'm assuming B and C are not connected. Or
are they?) Are you thinking of protecting against a simultaneous failure of
site A plus either B or C (but not both)?

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