Re: Accesses Denied
On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 08:38 MST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Alan. That will help if something like this happens in the future. I presume that there is no way to get the information from any logs created in the past (Monday, to be exact). Too bad. The default seems to be to log only things that succeed. Alas, that is great for being able to say, As far as I can tell, my system is working, but is no help in troubleshooting or in researching problems. No. What you see is what you get for SMTP logs; no history files are maintained. If you wanted to use the VERIFYCLIENT exit to send a message to a logging server, that would be cool. You can record as much or as little data as you want. Oh, and silly me, I forgot to mention the FORWARDMAIL configuration statement. If you don't want your VM system to be a relay host, set FORWARDMAIL NO. In that case it will only accept mail that originates from or is destined for a user on the VM system itself. With FORWARDMAIL EXIT you can get more creative. Oh, sure, for users RICHARD and CHUCKIE it will happily do that, but not for anyone else. Unless fave beverages are left under the park bench, of course. But no worries, mate. Your network infrastructure did what it was supposed to: it alerted someone that there is a problem. Too bad it didn't keep one of the pieces of mail as a sample since the Received headers would have revealed the IP address of the sender (back to the point you quit trusting the relays). I wish I had a way to know in advance when and what type of problems we are going to have so that I could turn the appropriate information collectors on when they will be needed. TCPIP needs a Log What I Need facility. :-) Any chance that Chucky knows how to do that? He says it involves some experimental widget call the Time Offset Facility. This ... thing ..., so he says, includes an epoch offset so that it can run instructions at an arbitrary point in time in the past. This way, after you know you have a problem, you can turn on the traces in the past so that they are available now. Ow! Headache! (He took a class in temporal mechanics while at the Academy.) All I know is that the machine room is littered with large magnets and something that looks vaguely like, get this, Jacob's Ladder. And you know where the cooling lines enter the books? Well, when I look there I feel somewhat queasy, as though something is there but I can't *quite* see it. (I took a flashlight. No help.) He just says The TOF's existence must be inferred, Grasshopper. Right. Whatever. Personally (don't tell him I told you this), I don't trust him. Shifty eyes. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described = in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix = yotta? How did octo get morphed to yotta? At least the derivation = of exa from hexa is fairly easy to see. Well, I'm 1/4 Greek (ask me at SHARE and I'll show you which quarter, if I like ya!), and I found this (at http://www.sizes.com/units/yotta.htm): In SI, the decimal multiplier prefix indicating 1024 of the unit to which it is prefixed. Symbol, Y. The name comes from octo, the Latin word for eight, because the prefix represents 103 to the eighth power. The y was added to avoid using the letter o as a symbol, because it might be confused with the numeral for zero. That makes more sense when you realize they mean as in YB (like KB, MB, GB), rather than that someone would confuse octobyte with 0ctobyte (0ct0byte?). Not sure I buy this -- could be a folk etymology. But it's as plausible as any, I guess. ...phsiii (who thinks the real origin is, That's a whole yotta bytes!)
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
How one pronounces those URLs is left as an exercise for the reader (and the speaker's tongue). ;-) The 5(five) characters preceding the .HTML looks like something Bill the Cat would say. Steve G. would say. Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2006 04:35 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:Re: I know it's dumb, but... Thanks, Doug. Then you may want to google ekabytes for the others (they only turn up on VM pubs, some may be unsupported)) and fix them, too. I found only four. Your Search Engine May Vary. http://204.146.134.18/pubs/cp31064/ZSBBK.HTML http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/cp43032/ZSBBK.HTML http://204.146.134.18/pubs/cp510/ASCBK.HTML http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/cp31064/ASCBK.HTML How one pronounces those URLs is left as an exercise for the reader (and the speaker's tongue). ;-) Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Doug Breneman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/05/2006 04:17 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: I know it's dumb, but... I can confirm that eka is a typo in the Planning and Admin book and should be exa. The VM Information Team will be notified, and this book will be corrected. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. In addtion, on February 23, 2005, Gerard Schildberger added an append that lists some prefixes from deca 10**1 to ukekta 10**36. BTW, Gerard spelled exa correctly. Doug Breneman IBM Development Endicott, New York Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: From: Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix yotta? How did octo get morphed to yotta? At least the derivation of exa from hexa is fairly easy to see. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, Parmelee, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is exabytes. Given its origin in the Greek hexa (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be eksa, not eka. But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited.
Re: a cautionary tale
I converted from z/VM 5.1 to z/VM 5.2 Tuesday. Now my DFSMS RMM mounts are not working properly. I have both 3490 3590 drives in a 3494 ATL. In the RMM config I have the drives listed 580 - 581 3490 tapes 590 - 592 3590 tapes If I try to mount a tape, rmmastr will connect the first drive, 580, to itself. If the physical tape matches the drive type, the mount proceeds. If the tape doesn't match, in this case a 3590 tape and 3490 drive, the mount fails with FSMBAD2003E. If I change the order of the tapes in RMCONFIG then I can mount the 3590s but not the 3490s. It's like the system has no idea that it has 2 types of drives. This worked fine in 5.1. I applied UM31447, but that didn't fix the problem. DFSMS is at function level 221B, not sure what level I was at on the 5.1 system. Anyone else have this issue and or know what I may be doing wrong? Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You.
CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - Agenda Change
The fourth quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, October 19, 2006. PLEASE NOTE: The second session has been changed. -- Meeting Location: This quarter's meeting will be held at the Hewitt Associates 'East Campus' located at 100 Half Day Road, in Lincolnshire, IL. We will meet in the Lower Level Conference Room in Building 98 - back to our regular meeting location. If you have not attended a meeting at this location before, or you are not familiar with the area, http://cavmen.home.comcast.net/hewittb99.htmlClick here for additional information on directions, maps, lodging and dining. -- Attendance: Our host site has requested a count of expected attendees by the Monday before the meeting, so that they can plan appropriately for refreshments, etc. If you are planning to attend, PLEASE send an E-Mail by that date to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject line of Meeting Attendance. This is meant to be a facilities planning aid and should not be interpreted as a registration requirement. If you suddenly become available at the last minute, please feel free to attend even if you have not responded. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. -- Agenda: 9:00 AM z/VM Performance Update The speaker will cover new developments in the z/VM performance area. Topics will include the latest z/VM releases and performance-related service. We will also look at some performance development in the area of Linux guest support. The speaker will be Dr. Brian Wade of the IBM Corporation. 10:30 AMCoffee Break 11:00 AMAutomating Application Startup under Linux The creation of automatic startup scripts for applications on Linux is poorly-documented and fraught with some peril in the early SUSE and RedHat releases. In this presentation, we'll go over what happens during Linux startup, the SysV init script structure that is used by most Linux distributions, and how to create scripts that can be safely integrated into the Linux startup process to start your applications at boot time. We'll look at automating and transforming some vendor-supplied startup processes for Oracle and DB2, and providing a flexible framework for building easily configurable startup scripts for new applications. The speaker will be Dr. David Boyes of Sine Nomine Associates. 12:30 PMLunch Break 1:30 PM Administration and Vendor Announcements 1:45 PM Update on z/VM Systems and Storage Management Products from IBM The focus of this session will be Backup and Restore Manager for z/VM V1.2, announced and available in August 2006. The speaker will also review anything new in Tape Manager and Operations Manager since their V1.2 releases in February 2006. A live demo will be included. The speaker will be Ms. Tracy Dean of the IBM Corporation. 2:30 PM z/VM and Linux on System z Performance Monitoring - An Update on How and With What Products z/VM is critical to the growing use of Linux on System z. Managing this environment requires insight into resource consumption at the z/VM level and at the Linux guest level. IBM's product offerings provide an integrated way to monitor (and manage) these performance characteristics. This presentation will discuss the current offerings and the new IBM OMEGAMON XE on z/VM and Linux, which IBM preview announced in August 2006. The speaker will be Mr. Mac Holloway of IBM/Tivoli. 3:30 PM Coffee Break 3:45 PM Integrating IBM Solutions for System and Performance Management of z/VM and Linux on System z. Management, including automation, often spans products and activities. These exist within a larger automation infrastructure and product set. This session will introduce scenarios that involve the integration of IBM z/VM system and performance management products, including IBM Operations Manager for z/VM and the recently announced IBM OMEGAMON XE on z/VM and Linux. The speakers will be Ms. Tracy Dean and Mr. Mac Holloway of IBM. 4:45 PM Free-for-All Members will attempt to answer any reasonable VM or hardware related questions. If you are having a problem and want to find out if others are experiencing it, or you are installing new hardware or software and want to find out what types of problems others have experienced, here is the place to find out. Members are encouraged to bring ideas for future presentations and speakers to this meeting. -- Please check the WEB site for Map and Directions: http://cavmen.home.comcast.net In addition, you will also find extensive information available on dining and lodging in the Hewitt Associates area. Additional information about the CAVMEN group, and other VM related items of interest are available on our web site. There is no charge for admission to meetings. Meeting attendance is open to
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
I cannot take credit for this information. It was appended by Gerard. Here is his append: preceeded/followed by (not all of which are recognized by some countries and some have been depreciated): deka or deca D or Dk 10** 1 hectoH 10** 2 kilo K 10** 3 myriaMy 10** 4 mega M 10** 6 giga G 10** 9 tera T 10**12 peta P 10**15 exa E 10**18 zettaZ 10**21 yottaY 10**24 xentaX 10**27 wektaW 10**30 vendeka V 10**33 ukekta U 10**36 ___Gerard S. I have searched the rest of the z/VM libray for 'eka' and find nooccurrences of it except in the CP Plan and Admin book. I also searched the code library and found three occurrences. I have notified the module owners of these parts, but it is relatively low on their list of things to do right now. Doug Breneman z/VM Development Endicott, NY Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:14 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUcc: From: "Schuh, Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... Whence "ukekta"? Google finds lots of references to other prefixes, but only the one you mentioned for ukekta. regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Doug BrenemanSent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:18 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... I can confirm that eka is a typo in the Planning and Admin book and should be exa. The VM Information Team will be notified, and this book will be corrected. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.In addtion, on February 23, 2005, Gerard Schildberger added an append that lists some prefixes from deca 10**1 to ukekta 10**36. BTW, Gerard spelled exa correctly.Doug Breneman IBM Development Endicott, New YorkThursday, October 05, 2006 2:51 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUcc: From: "Schuh, Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but...I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix "yotta"? How did "octo" get morphed to "yotta"? At least the derivation of "exa" from "hexa" is fairly easy to see.Regards,Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, "Parmelee, Phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is "exabytes". Given its origin in the Greek "hexa" (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be "eksa", not "eka". But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Any one in the Boston Area using a VM/VSE Combination
Hello Larry, I know you asked for the Boston area, but just in case you might need something. We are a VM/VSE shop and I would be willing to help when I am able to. Thanks Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of l character Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Any one in the Boston Area using a VM/VSE Combination Anyone in the Boston area using a vm/VSE combination Thanks Larry Pepero Commonwealth Autombile Re-insurers 100 Summer St Boston MA 02110 617-880-2361 lpeperocommauto.com Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: Question re: Hercules
Hello From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. I was told this in no uncertain terms when I was doing testing using Hercules, and we were licensed for VM/ESA 2.4. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wade Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules As an aside, this is also true of MS Windows - just ask them! They will tell you that you cannot transfer an MS Windows license from one machine to another without permission. It actually depends on what type of license you bought. Most folks buy an OEM license (in the UK these are about £80, say $150) which as you say is not transferable. On the other hand you can buy a retail license which is transferable. However the cost of these is £160, so unless you are going to move it to three machines you are no worse off buying the OEM version. Even if you are destroying the original machine. Not that many Windows users realize this. The soon find out these days when they try and re-activate the same activation code... -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Question re: Hercules
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward M. Martin Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules Hello From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. I was told this in no uncertain terms when I was doing testing using Hercules, and we were licensed for VM/ESA 2.4. Ed Martin Well, you can run VM/370, and MVS 3.8j and OS/360 variants (MVT MFT). From what I understand, they were free and unencumbered by any license. I don't even know if they were copyrighted. But, if so, I am fairly sure that the copyright has expired. And they can be downloaded from the Internet. There is even a turnkey version of MVS 3.8j that can be ordered on CD-ROM. Of course, you cannot run any program products on these OSes (like SPF is not available for the MVS 3.8j system). -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
Re: Question re: Hercules
Don't forget DOS. Steve G. McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2006 10:42 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:Re: Question re: Hercules -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward M. Martin Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:36 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules Hello From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. I was told this in no uncertain terms when I was doing testing using Hercules, and we were licensed for VM/ESA 2.4. Ed Martin Well, you can run VM/370, and MVS 3.8j and OS/360 variants (MVT MFT). >From what I understand, they were free and unencumbered by any license. I don't even know if they were copyrighted. But, if so, I am fairly sure that the copyright has expired. And they can be downloaded from the Internet. There is even a turnkey version of MVS 3.8j that can be ordered on CD-ROM. Of course, you cannot run any program products on these OSes (like SPF is not available for the MVS 3.8j system). -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
Re: Question re: Hercules
Title: Message God knows that I've tried! --John McKownSenior Systems ProgrammerHealthMarketsKeeping the Promise of Affordable CoverageAdministrative Services GroupInformation TechnologyThis message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve GentrySent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:51 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: Question re: HerculesDon't forget DOS.
Re: Accesses Denied
Our outbound mail is everything from mail to Outlook clients to automated pages and alerts. Since it originates in VM, it will still be allowed with the FORWARDMAIL YES. We are supposed to receive (note - I meant receive instead of accept, a subtle difference) no in-bound mail. The default FORWARDMAIL YES ENDFORWARDMAIL has been commented out, not turned into an explicit NO. That appears to be a problem. I will pass that on to the people who do the definitions. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Accesses Denied On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 08:38 MST, Schuh, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Alan. That will help if something like this happens in the future. I presume that there is no way to get the information from any logs created in the past (Monday, to be exact). Too bad. The default seems to be to log only things that succeed. Alas, that is great for being able to say, As far as I can tell, my system is working, but is no help in troubleshooting or in researching problems. No. What you see is what you get for SMTP logs; no history files are maintained. If you wanted to use the VERIFYCLIENT exit to send a message to a logging server, that would be cool. You can record as much or as little data as you want. Oh, and silly me, I forgot to mention the FORWARDMAIL configuration statement. If you don't want your VM system to be a relay host, set FORWARDMAIL NO. In that case it will only accept mail that originates from or is destined for a user on the VM system itself. With FORWARDMAIL EXIT you can get more creative. Oh, sure, for users RICHARD and CHUCKIE it will happily do that, but not for anyone else. Unless fave beverages are left under the park bench, of course. But no worries, mate. Your network infrastructure did what it was supposed to: it alerted someone that there is a problem. Too bad it didn't keep one of the pieces of mail as a sample since the Received headers would have revealed the IP address of the sender (back to the point you quit trusting the relays). I wish I had a way to know in advance when and what type of problems we are going to have so that I could turn the appropriate information collectors on when they will be needed. TCPIP needs a Log What I Need facility. :-) Any chance that Chucky knows how to do that? He says it involves some experimental widget call the Time Offset Facility. This ... thing ..., so he says, includes an epoch offset so that it can run instructions at an arbitrary point in time in the past. This way, after you know you have a problem, you can turn on the traces in the past so that they are available now. Ow! Headache! (He took a class in temporal mechanics while at the Academy.) All I know is that the machine room is littered with large magnets and something that looks vaguely like, get this, Jacob's Ladder. And you know where the cooling lines enter the books? Well, when I look there I feel somewhat queasy, as though something is there but I can't *quite* see it. (I took a flashlight. No help.) He just says The TOF's existence must be inferred, Grasshopper. Right. Whatever. Personally (don't tell him I told you this), I don't trust him. Shifty eyes. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Connecting MVS to VSE CICS ? Is this possible?
Maybe not herculean, but it is an intricate process. Actually LU6.2 is the only way you can do this, since VSE does not provide a way to connect CICS systems via TCP/IP (I don't know about CICS on z/OS in that regard). l character wrote: Greetings: It concern an MVS site whom we are trying to shoe-horn MVS programs into VSE. My boss is a former MVS (and VSE) person but this task looks Herculean. WE have to connect an MVS CICS site that refuses to use TCP/IP or the WEB. Is there any other way except dragging out the old LU 6.2 and revisting the whole VTAM? SNA thing. Stirring up flashbacks from the Past Regards,Larry All-new Yahoo! Mail http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=43256/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta- Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2007 - Green Bay, WI - May 18-22, 2007
Re: Question re: Hercules
Ouch, oh, that hurt! McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/06/2006 10:52 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System To:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc: Subject:Re: Question re: Hercules God knows that I've tried! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Gentry Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:51 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules Don't forget DOS.
DFSMS RMM - was, accidentally, Re: a cautionary tale
Where are you doing the mounts from? Is this via the DFSMSRM command or via VGS for a VSE guest? Since you have two libraries, did you tell RMS and VGS about both libraries, and are you selecting the library on the mount command? I'm using DFSMSRM mount commands from my VM user id. I only have 1 library with multiple drive types. 1 Frame has a 3490 C2A drive, the other frame as 3 - 3590 drives. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You.
Re: Connecting MVS to VSE CICS ? Is this possible?
You can certainly connect VSE - MVS CICSs together. The tried and true LU6.2 POR TOR are the best bet. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You.
Re: Question re: Hercules
These and most of the other early software from IBM was released in both source and compiled form under a public domain license. This was before any of the open source licenses existed. When the courts told IBM they could not give away software, IBM came up with program products and started making money from software. They then started putting restrictions on the use of their software. IBM's use of Linux is going back to where they started. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you can run VM/370, and MVS 3.8j and OS/360 variants (MVT MFT). From what I understand, they were free and unencumbered by any license. I don't even know if they were copyrighted. But, if so, I am fairly sure that the copyright has expired. And they can be downloaded from the Internet. There is even a turnkey version of MVS 3.8j that can be ordered on CD-ROM. Of course, you cannot run any program products on these OSes (like SPF is not available for the MVS 3.8j system). -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
DFSMS RMM - was, accidentally, Re: a cautionary tale
I'm using DFSMSRM mount commands from my VM user id. I only have 1 library with multiple drive types. 1 Frame has a 3490 C2A drive, the other frame as 3 - 3590 drives. Hmm, okay, well the problem here is you have one library with two different drive types and specific volumes for each. When you request a volume to be mounted, RMS does not know the difference in drives when they are all in one library. Perhaps you previously had an exit that differentiated the volumes and drives to help out RMS? Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development
Re: DFSMS RMM
I'm using DFSMSRM mount commands from my VM user id. I only have 1 library with multiple drive types. 1 Frame has a 3490 C2A drive, the other frame as 3 - 3590 drives. Hmm, okay, well the problem here is you have one library with two different drive types and specific volumes for each. When you request a volume to be mounted, RMS does not know the difference in drives when they are all in one library. Perhaps you previously had an exit that differentiated the volumes and drives to help out RMS? Now you have me questioning myself. I know there is no exit, I would have had to write it. When I get back from the Expo I'm going to start up my old z/VM 5.1 and verify it that it works like I think it did. I used it infrequently for mounting from VM, it's real purpose in life is connected to z/OS. But I was _sure_ it mounted the volume I asked for on the correct drive type. Hm. Thanks for the replies Les. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You.
Re: Question re: Hercules
On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 12:19 EST, Stephen P. Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBM's use of Linux is going back to where they started. Sorry, Stephen, but could you elaborate more on this? I'm not sure what you're driving at. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Question re: Hercules
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 12:19 EST, Stephen P. Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBM's use of Linux is going back to where they started. Sorry, Stephen, but could you elaborate more on this? I'm not sure what you're driving at. Alan Altmark I think the fact that the original OS/360 and VM/370 were, like Linux, open source with a lot of community involvement in their development. Something that the z/... operating systems lack. I understand why, from IBM's viewpoint, but I wish it were not so. Just say NO! to OCO grin -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited.
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
In other references, I think that it is "deprecated" instead of "depreciated". To disapprove is somewhat different than to reduce in value or esteem. In regard to Phil's reference to SI, I think they carefully specify that their definitions apply only to the powers of 10. They have pushed the idea of inserting a "BI" in the prefix for the binary prefixes. That makes it a real bummer to try to pronounce something likegibigabyte, which is one of the easier ones. I have a difficult enough time with English, let alone the munged Greek prefixes :-) Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Doug BrenemanSent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:41 AMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... I cannot take credit for this information. It was appended by Gerard. Here is his append: preceeded/followed by (not all of which are recognized by some countries and some have been depreciated): deka or deca D or Dk 10** 1 hectoH 10** 2 kilo K 10** 3 myriaMy 10** 4 mega M 10** 6 giga G 10** 9 tera T 10**12 peta P 10**15 exa E 10**18 zettaZ 10**21 yottaY 10**24 xentaX 10**27 wektaW 10**30 vendeka V 10**33 ukekta U 10**36 ___Gerard S. I have searched the rest of the z/VM libray for 'eka' and find nooccurrences of it except in the CP Plan and Admin book. I also searched the code library and found three occurrences. I have notified the module owners of these parts, but it is relatively low on their list of things to do right now. Doug Breneman z/VM Development Endicott, NY Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:14 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUcc: From: "Schuh, Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... Whence "ukekta"? Google finds lots of references to other prefixes, but only the one you mentioned for ukekta. regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Doug BrenemanSent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 2:18 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... I can confirm that eka is a typo in the Planning and Admin book and should be exa. The VM Information Team will be notified, and this book will be corrected. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.In addtion, on February 23, 2005, Gerard Schildberger added an append that lists some prefixes from deca 10**1 to ukekta 10**36. BTW, Gerard spelled exa correctly.Doug Breneman IBM Development Endicott, New YorkThursday, October 05, 2006 2:51 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUcc: From: "Schuh, Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but...I am neither Greek nor a scholar, but your explanation is as described in any reference I have found. Now, what is the origin of the prefix "yotta"? How did "octo" get morphed to "yotta"? At least the derivation of "exa" from "hexa" is fairly easy to see.Regards,Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:20 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... On Thursday, 10/05/2006 at 02:04 AST, "Parmelee, Phil" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don?t mean to impose on all of the ?work related? discussions here, but. I have this hang up about pronunciation. I know, it?s a personal thing.. On pg 44 of z/VM CP Planning and Administration SC24-6083-03, there is a term Ekabytes. I would like to know how to pronounce it. Is it Eck as in a short e, or Eeeeak as with a long E People always like to set me straight, and this time I would appreciate it. I *think* that's a misspelling. The word is "exabytes". Given its origin in the Greek "hexa" (exa is 10^6), the pronounciation should be "eksa", not "eka". But I leave it to the Greek scholars among us to confirm. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
Some Wikipedia articles relevant to this conversation: SI Prefixes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix Non-SI Prefixes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-SI_unit_prefix Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development
Re: TELNET to a 2074 - bad idea?
On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 13:39:14 -0400, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 11:57 EST, Brian Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] V wrote: Has anyone ever TELNET'ed to the port on a 2074 used for 3270 sessions ? (Yes, I know it's not supported.) I don't know what you mean, Brian. You're *supposed* to telnet into the port on a 2074 used for 3270 sessions. (And the 2074 is still supported ; you just can't order it any more.) I meant that the TELNET command from a command prompt is not supported by the 2074. (As I described in my second paragraph.) According to the 2074 Console Support Controller Configurator Guide, Chapter 4, section 3270 Client support: The 2074 only supports TCP/IP attached clients which are running a Telnet TN3270E emulator program Since the TELNET command is not a TN3270E emulator program it's not a supported connection method to the 2074. If that's incorrect please let me know. The other day someone used the TELNET command from a command line prom pt to attempt to connect to our 2074. Almost immediately, all the emulat or sessions to the 2074 (regardless of what LPAR they were in session wit h) either disconnected or got agonizingly slow for a couple minutes and then disconnected. Have you contacted the Support Center? I vaguely remember updates to th e 2074 because of dropped sessions. I have not. The dropped sessions only happen on the 2074 accessible to a remote network segment. Brian Nielsen
Re: TELNET to a 2074 - bad idea?
On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 01:05 EST, Brian Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the 2074 Console Support Controller Configurator Guide, Chapter 4, section 3270 Client support: The 2074 only supports TCP/IP attached clients which are running a Telnet TN3270E emulator program Since the TELNET command is not a TN3270E emulator program it's not a supported connection method to the 2074. If that's incorrect please let me know. Well, sure, it's true that it will want to negotiate a TN3270E session, but that doesn't mean it is supposed to malf if your telnet client (for any reason) refuses to go along. It may be that it is too aggressive and isn't ending negotiations properly, but is going into a WILL/WONT/DO/DONT loop. When combined with a telnet client suffering the same form of dementia, an infinite loop is quite possible, chewing up all sorts of CPU. Who knows. Use ethereal or whatever on your PC to see if this is the case. The other day someone used the TELNET command from a command line prompt to attempt to connect to our 2074. Almost immediately, all the emulator sessions to the 2074 (regardless of what LPAR they were in session with) either disconnected or got agonizingly slow for a couple minutes and then disconnected. BTW, issuing the telnet command from a command line prompt does not necessarily limit it to linemode. The CMS TELNET command is a TN3270-capable command line client. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Question re: Hercules
When I started with computers in 1968, IBM sold very good hardware, gave away the software, and charged for education and support. They became rich on that model. Now, IBM is going to a model where they make good hardware (z9) that runs a free OS (Linux) very well and they charge for consulting. Will they become rich again on that model? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 12:19 EST, Stephen P. Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IBM's use of Linux is going back to where they started. Sorry, Stephen, but could you elaborate more on this? I'm not sure what you're driving at. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us
Re: Accesses Denied
On Oct 5, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: Oh, sure, for users RICHARD and CHUCKIE it will happily do that, but not for anyone else. Unless fave beverages are left under the park bench, of course. Am I the only person who keeps hearing the first verse of Jethro Tull's Aqualung here? Adam
Re: Question re: Hercules
On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Edward M. Martin wrote: From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. I call BS on this statement. You can run VM/370r6 as much as you want. It is in the public domain. Adam
Re: Question re: Hercules
Hello Adam, Oh I think they just wanted me to stop running VM/ESA 2.4.0 and that was a period in time when lots of people were looking at the Hercules Boxes to Run everything and anything. Seems like a lost opportunity for IBM but as I understand it, IBM could not figure out a price model. Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-588-4723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ext. 40441 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 3:59 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Edward M. Martin wrote: From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. I call BS on this statement. You can run VM/370r6 as much as you want. It is in the public domain. Adam
Re: Question re: Hercules
On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Edward M. Martin wrote: From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. Also, because it's Friday: Someone should teach those IBMmers the difference between can and may. Adam
JDBC and DB2/VM
Hello Just a short question to see if anyone has gotten JDBC drivers on a windows machine to successfully access DB2/VM. We know that the drivers work with DB2/universal. but fail miserably with DB2/VM. DB2/VM is at version 7.2 The attempt to access DB2/VM returns a authorization failure message to the windows machine (incorrect message there) and a data capture dump on DB2/VM. The reason for exploring the JDBC angle is that ODBC connections to this database sometimes hang with no error messages, and we cannot seem to reproduce the hang conditions. An interesting part of the DB2 dump is below. Note that the probable cause section does not tell what the unsupported value was that it is trying to deal with. SYMPTOM STRING:MS/ARI2909I PIDS/5697F4201 RIDS/ARITPAC PRCS/11 PROBABLE CAUSE OF FAILURE: DDM VALUE NOT SUPPORTED If anyone has gotten cold fusion or JDBC to work to DB2/VM, and is willing to share the secrets, I would like to hear from them thanks Henry Wilusz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Failure is not an option . . . . . . . . . . It comes standard with windows
Re: Question re: Hercules
On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 12:50 EST, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the fact that the original OS/360 and VM/370 were, like Linux, open source with a lot of community involvement in their development. Something that the z/... operating systems lack. I understand why, from IBM's viewpoint, but I wish it were not so. Just say NO! to OCO grin Old song. :-) After all these decades, z/VM still ships the source for nearly all of its modules. Only those modules that protect IBM intellectual property (sw hw), along with a small number of modules whose source is not controlled by us and whose owners insist on it, are OCO. If we were just a software company, I think things would be a little different, but we package our software to protect both itself *and* the hardware. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
Re: Question re: Hercules
Title: RE: Question re: Hercules But what good is PLX source if the PLX compileir is a national secret? -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 3:55 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules On Friday, 10/06/2006 at 12:50 EST, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the fact that the original OS/360 and VM/370 were, like Linux, open source with a lot of community involvement in their development. Something that the z/... operating systems lack. I understand why, from IBM's viewpoint, but I wish it were not so. Just say NO! to OCO grin Old song. :-) After all these decades, z/VM still ships the source for nearly all of its modules. Only those modules that protect IBM intellectual property (sw hw), along with a small number of modules whose source is not controlled by us and whose owners insist on it, are OCO. If we were just a software company, I think things would be a little different, but we package our software to protect both itself *and* the hardware. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott __ ella for Spam Control has removed VSE-List messages and set aside VM-List for me You can use it too - and it's FREE! http://www.ellaforspam.com
The Daily WTF on mainframes
http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/94909.aspx OK, there are probably a few things wrong with the details, but it's at least plausible. And TDWTF is generally well worth reading... -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III (703) 476-4511 (home office) (703) 568-6662 (cell)
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
On 10/6/06, Miguel Delapaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non-SI Prefixes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-SI_unit_prefix Most of these also seem also in use as prefix in various diseases... Good thing they have a lot of spare ones. :soapbox. I am a little concerned that there still is the discrepancy between 1000^n and 1024^n depending on the context. While we could get away with this when n was 1, now that we're at n=3 the error is significant when you confuse them. At one point I believe people declared that in disk storage context a GB would mean 1000^3 where in memory it is 1024^3. I think that's silly. So how about virtual memory and paging? When we get to Exabytes the difference is as much as between an 3390 on MVS and on VM. Rob
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
I always thought that 1024^n was right (powers of two and all that) and that hard drive manufactures choose 1000^n to make their wares look that much larger... Tom Rae Senior Director, Technical Services Western Canada Loblaw Companies Limited Information Systems Division Notice: This e-mail transmission may contain confidential, proprietary and/or legally privileged information and is intended only for the individual or entity named in the e-mail address. Any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance upon the contents of this e-mail not authorized by the sender is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender, so that proper delivery of the e-mail can be effected, and then please delete the message from your Inbox. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miguel Delapaz Sent: October 6, 2006 15:26 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: I know it's dumb, but... Yes, terribly silly. Also, OSes generally express file size in 1024^n which can be confusing when determining how many files you can cram on a disk with capacity 1000^n. Have fun trying to get everyone to change though :-) 1000^n is obviously right...but who wants to go and make up different terms when we're only off by 24? :-) More wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
Well, right depends on your perspective. I was speaking of right in terms of the general SI prefix standards. 1024^n was/is used to simplify our lives because we (computers) deal with powers of 2. Regards, Miguel Delapaz z/VM TCP/IP Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 10/06/2006 02:45:57 PM: I always thought that 1024^n was right (powers of two and all that) and that hard drive manufactures choose 1000^n to make their wares look that much larger... Tom Rae
Re: I know it's dumb, but.......
If you stop o think about it, the use of theprefixes for decimal numbers predated the use for binaries by a long time. I doubt that you will find the usage for 1024^n until the second half of the 20th century. It is the 1024^n that is the latecomer to the party. In that sense, you are correct in stating that it is "right". The SI folks have made a concession by saying that it is OK to use the prefixes for 1024^n numbers other than computer memory and clock speeds as long as you state your usage ahead of time. I hope that ends the silly insertion of BI into the prefixes. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message-From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Miguel DelapazSent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:26 PMTo: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUSubject: Re: I know it's dumb, but...Yes, terribly silly. Also, OSes generally express file size in 1024^n which can be confusing when determining how many files you can cram on a disk with capacity 1000^n. Have fun trying to get everyone to change though :-) 1000^n is obviously "right"...but who wants to go and make up different terms when we're "only" off by 24? :-) More wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megabyte Regards,Miguel Delapazz/VM TCP/IP Development The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU wrote on 10/06/2006 02:09:41 PM: :soapbox. I am a little concerned that there still is the discrepancy between 1000^n and 1024^n depending on the context. While we could get away with this when n was 1, now that we're at n=3 the error is significant when you confuse them. At one point I believe people declared that in disk storage context a GB would mean 1000^3 where in memory it is 1024^3. I think that's silly. So how about virtual memory and paging? When we get to Exabytes the difference is as much as between an 3390 on MVS and on VM. Rob
Re: Any one in the Boston Area using a VM/VSE Combination
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Dodds, Jim Sent: Fri 10/6/2006 3:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Any one in the Boston Area using a VM/VSE Combination Hello Larry, I know you asked for the Boston area, but just in case you might need something. We are a VM/VSE shop and I would be willing to help when I am able to. Thanks Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 Contact NEUVM, the New England VM users group -- there are a number of VM and VSE shops in the Boston area (and it's a great place to meet up with your peers). Gerard Shockley at BU coordinates the meetings; I've copied him on this note. Subject: Any one in the Boston Area using a VM/VSE Combination Anyone in the Boston area using a vm/VSE combination Thanks Larry Pepero Commonwealth Autombile Re-insurers 100 Summer St Boston MA 02110 617-880-2361 lpepero commauto.com Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http:/us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39666/*http:/messenger.yahoo.com
Re: Question re: Hercules
Hello! Agreed! That's what I have here at the moment. There are other reasons, besides the obvious. Those individuals who would like to know why please feel free to contact me off list. Adam were you thinking of me when you posted that? -- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you. Always. Obi-Wan Kenobi -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 3:59 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Question re: Hercules On Oct 6, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Edward M. Martin wrote: From the IBM stand, NO you can not run VM - any version - under Hercules. I call BS on this statement. You can run VM/370r6 as much as you want. It is in the public domain. Adam
Re: Question re: Hercules
On Oct 6, 2006, at 5:14 PM, Gregg C Levine wrote: Hello! Agreed! That's what I have here at the moment. There are other reasons, besides the obvious. Those individuals who would like to know why please feel free to contact me off list. Adam were you thinking of me when you posted that? No, just thinking of Hercules. Adam
